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- 0:03Speaker 1: There were rumors running amok through the community about devil worshipers.
- 0:09Speaker 2: You have to have a certain amount of rage in
- 0:10Speaker 2: your system in order to take a body apart piece
- 0:14Speaker 2: by piece by piece.
- 0:16Speaker 3: There are monsters who live among us capable of doing
- 0:20Speaker 3: this kind of thing.
- 0:22Speaker 4: James lit up the room, never in a bad mood.
- 0:26Speaker 4: Can't even picture him yelling at someone.
- 0:34Speaker 1: We had concern that this wasn't the first one.
- 0:38Speaker 5: The motivation wasn't money, it wasn't drugs, it wasn't sex.
- 0:42Speaker 5: It was far deeper than that.
- 0:44Speaker 6: It was just not done to kill the person, but
- 0:47Speaker 6: destroy this person's image.
- 0:53Speaker 7: A shocking murder becomes a dark mystery. The victim's body
- 0:59Speaker 7: holds the key to convicting the killer. Every fiber is
- 1:05Speaker 7: a clue. Every wound is a piece of the puzzle.
- 1:10Speaker 7: In these cases, it's up to the medical examiner to
- 1:13Speaker 7: find the crucial evidence and catch the murderer. This is
- 1:18Speaker 7: Secrets of the Morgue.
- 1:31Speaker 1: We're seeing counties relatively rural. There's farms, there's horse farms.
- 1:35Speaker 1: There are plenty of churches. Religion is a very strong
- 1:39Speaker 1: part of the community here.
- 1:43Speaker 2: We're 20 minutes from Milwaukee and 60 minutes from Chicago.
- 1:50Speaker 2: This is really a quiet community.
- 1:55Speaker 7: Late one summer morning, a farmer notices something strange at
- 1:59Speaker 7: the end of his field.
- 2:02Speaker 2: An individual thought something was funny because the cows were
- 2:06Speaker 2: all sniffing the air and gathering on the other side
- 2:10Speaker 2: of the fence and they didn't know what was going on.
- 2:17Speaker 2: In the ditch were two large yellow plastic trash bags.
- 2:25Speaker 1: I remember the bags as being yellow and industrial, almost
- 2:28Speaker 1: like what today we would call contractor bags.
- 2:35Speaker 2: When he was trying to pick up the plastic bags,
- 2:37Speaker 2: he discovered it was a human being.
- 2:43Speaker 7: Lieutenant Ivanovsky responds to the scene.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Inside one of the bags was an upper torso. And
- 2:53Speaker 2: inside the second bag was a lower torso. And somebody
- 2:58Speaker 2: had cut the head and arms off. I had never
- 3:02Speaker 2: experienced anything like that. Nothing sensed like that either. Very gruesome.
- 3:11Speaker 5: When all you have is body parts and you don't
- 3:13Speaker 5: have a cause of death and you don't have a
- 3:15Speaker 5: mechanism of death, a homicide investigator is left with a
- 3:18Speaker 5: lot of questions that don't have answers. And the first
- 3:22Speaker 5: thing you have to do is to identify that person
- 3:25Speaker 5: because that will start to give you some answers.
- 3:28Speaker 7: The remains are sent to Milwaukee County Medical Examiner, Dr.
- 3:32Speaker 7: Jeffrey Jensen for autopsy.
- 3:34Speaker 6: I think the most important part of it is closure.
- 3:38Speaker 6: Closure for that person's life and closure for the person's
- 3:43Speaker 6: family and to know what happened. At this point in
- 3:47Speaker 6: my career, this was the first body dismemberment that I
- 3:51Speaker 6: had examined.
- 3:55Speaker 7: The first step for Dr. Jensen is to determine whether
- 3:58Speaker 7: he's dealing with one or two victims.
- 4:02Speaker 6: We have The lower portion of the body in one piece.
- 4:07Speaker 6: Then we have a torso that has had the head
- 4:11Speaker 6: and upper extremities removed. We can match body parts up
- 4:17Speaker 6: based on the known number of lumbar vertebrae. Those two
- 4:24Speaker 6: pieces were comparable and compatible in every way. It was
- 4:29Speaker 6: a younger male body.
- 4:34Speaker 7: The matching lumbar vertebrae prove the remains are from a
- 4:38Speaker 7: single victim. The body also reveals a deeply disturbing fact.
- 4:44Speaker 6: The individual had been emasculated. Then the external genitals removed,
- 4:52Speaker 6: and I was not able to identify any hemorrhage related
- 4:55Speaker 6: to that. So it would be my opinion that it
- 4:57Speaker 6: was most likely a post-mortem emasculation.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Dr.
- 5:03Speaker 7: Jensen looks for a way to identify the young male victim.
- 5:09Speaker 6: We were still relying on old technology, fingerprints, and dental
- 5:16Speaker 6: examinations to make identification. Back in 1990, DNA was expensive
- 5:26Speaker 6: and not available to most medical examiners. We had no fingerprints,
- 5:31Speaker 6: no hands or upper extremities in this case.
- 5:35Speaker 7: Lieutenant Ivanovsky and his team are determined to discover the
- 5:39Speaker 7: identity of their victim and catch the perpetrator capable of
- 5:44Speaker 7: such evil.
- 5:45Speaker 1: The level of hurt or damage done to both this
- 5:49Speaker 1: individual and his family and the community called for action
- 5:52Speaker 1: by police. Obviously, it's protection of the public.
- 5:57Speaker 7: Police start by canvassing the area around the crime scene.
- 6:00Speaker 2: I have to conduct what they call a neighborhood check
- 6:05Speaker 2: or a near area check to see if there's possibly
- 6:08Speaker 2: anybody else in the area that might have seen somebody
- 6:11Speaker 2: put the bags there, might have seen a suspicious vehicle
- 6:14Speaker 2: in the vicinity, might have known anybody that's missing. The
- 6:19Speaker 2: houses were very distant and very far apart. When we
- 6:23Speaker 2: were going two or three miles away from our crime scene,
- 6:27Speaker 2: We check all of the missing person reports, checking with
- 6:31Speaker 2: all of the farms nearby, all of the subdivisions nearby,
- 6:34Speaker 2: all of the cars that we could find and the
- 6:36Speaker 2: people in the area, and nobody could identify or knew anything.
- 6:42Speaker 5: All you have is a scene where the body is found.
- 6:44Speaker 5: That may be a secondary scene, it may be a
- 6:45Speaker 5: tertiary scene, but it isn't the murder scene. So you
- 6:48Speaker 5: don't have the information and evidence that would flow from that.
- 6:51Speaker 5: You don't have an identification of the victim, so you
- 6:55Speaker 5: don't know whether they're from 10 miles away or from
- 6:58Speaker 5: 25 feet away. All of that are first steps that
- 7:00Speaker 5: are very difficult for an investigator.
- 7:03Speaker 7: While investigators speak to local residents, a strangely unnerving tale
- 7:07Speaker 7: begins to emerge.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Someone complained that he had like five dogs disappear in
- 7:14Speaker 2: like a 10-year period, and none of the dogs were
- 7:17Speaker 2: old enough to just die on their own.
- 7:20Speaker 7: Several residents report disturbing events happening within the county.
- 7:26Speaker 2: And there were several people that pointed out that their
- 7:29Speaker 2: other neighbors on one side or the other of them
- 7:32Speaker 2: possibly were having Satan rituals in their barns late at
- 7:36Speaker 2: night or early in the morning.
- 7:40Speaker 1: The people that lived outside the city were seen certainly
- 7:42Speaker 1: aren't used to violent crime generally. And this kind of
- 7:46Speaker 1: violent crime was incredibly scary, and there were rumors running
- 7:49Speaker 1: amok through the community about devil worshipers. People that do
- 7:56Speaker 1: believe in God and belong to traditional religions, they can
- 7:58Speaker 1: be terrified by people they believe worship the devil.
- 8:04Speaker 2: That's possibly the reason that this individual was cut up
- 8:08Speaker 2: into body parts. They were doing a Satanistic ritual of
- 8:11Speaker 2: some type.
- 8:12Speaker 7: Police are wary of rumors. But then, Dr. Jensen finds
- 8:17Speaker 7: sinister cuts on the victim's skin.
- 8:20Speaker 6: There was a peculiar pattern of stab wounds that was
- 8:24Speaker 6: present over the midline portion of the back. The stab
- 8:29Speaker 6: wounds were vertical up and down and also horizontal. There
- 8:34Speaker 6: may be a pattern there. This was some kind of
- 8:38Speaker 6: a message or some kind of a symbol.
- 8:43Speaker 2: We had to investigate and talk to all of these
- 8:46Speaker 2: people and see if in fact some of this stuff
- 8:48Speaker 2: might have really been going on.
- 8:53Speaker 3: In a small town, a case like this can send
- 8:56Speaker 3: people into a frenzy. And oftentimes people will assume that
- 9:02Speaker 3: the only people capable of this are members of a
- 9:05Speaker 3: satanic cult or some kind of deviant group. And that's
- 9:09Speaker 3: often an attempt to try and make sense of something
- 9:12Speaker 3: that seems so far beyond the realm of human possibility.
- 9:19Speaker 3: But in reality, there are monsters who live among us.
- 9:26Speaker 2: All of the neighbors who had been pointed at as
- 9:29Speaker 2: being Satanistic told us freely that, yes, they had parties
- 9:32Speaker 2: in their barn until early hours of the morning, but
- 9:35Speaker 2: it also included beer and whiskey and wine, and nobody
- 9:38Speaker 2: did anything illegal. We had no information on the identity
- 9:43Speaker 2: of the individual, nor were we getting anywhere to begin
- 9:46Speaker 2: with as far as identifying him and finding out what
- 9:48Speaker 2: actually happened to him.
- 9:52Speaker 7: Investigators continue to speak to residents, hoping for a lead.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Racine County Sheriff's Department had several of the investigators several
- 10:00Speaker 2: deputies literally going from door to door, and we had
- 10:03Speaker 2: expanded our search from probably 2-mile circumference to about a
- 10:06Speaker 2: 5- or 6-mile circumference. One of the deputies was actually
- 10:14Speaker 2: parked on the side of the road making notes in
- 10:16Speaker 2: his notebook, about whom he had contacted already and whom
- 10:20Speaker 2: he had interviewed and what type of information he had gathered.
- 10:24Speaker 2: And all of a sudden the dog came running down
- 10:26Speaker 2: the middle of the street with a human arm in
- 10:31Speaker 2: its jaws. It was in a totally different area from
- 10:35Speaker 2: where the other two body parts had been found. We
- 10:40Speaker 2: thought perhaps we now had a better idea of where
- 10:44Speaker 2: the crime occurred because now we had two locations and
- 10:48Speaker 2: it might have occurred in the middle of these two locations.
- 10:52Speaker 2: So now we moved our circumference of search into a
- 10:54Speaker 2: different area. We brought in the city of Racine, cadaver dogs.
- 11:01Speaker 7: As the canine unit combs through farmland, police confront an
- 11:05Speaker 7: ominous possibility.
- 11:07Speaker 1: One police dog found several other body parts.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Just horrific.
- 11:16Speaker 7: Investigators fear there could be more dismembered victims scattered throughout
- 11:20Speaker 7: the county. Detectives are investigating the murder of a young
- 11:27Speaker 7: man when the discovery of more body parts leads them
- 11:30Speaker 7: to believe there could be multiple victims.
- 11:34Speaker 2: The deputy that was there to this day has nightmares
- 11:37Speaker 2: about seeing that dog running with a human arm in
- 11:40Speaker 2: his mouth.
- 11:42Speaker 7: Soon after, local residents make another shocking discovery.
- 11:47Speaker 2: A man and his son were walking down another county road,
- 11:50Speaker 2: and they came across a head lying in the drainage ditch.
- 11:58Speaker 2: To find a dismembered head anywhere, which is just horrific.
- 12:04Speaker 2: They called up the sheriff's department, and of course, we
- 12:06Speaker 2: had another crime scene at that time. Shoot up the
- 12:08Speaker 2: cordon off the area, You have to search and see
- 12:11Speaker 2: if there's any other body parts in the vicinity. You
- 12:14Speaker 2: have to pick up the evidence and ship it up
- 12:16Speaker 2: to Dr. Jeffrey Jensen.
- 12:18Speaker 7: It's up to the medical examiner to determine if these
- 12:21Speaker 7: body parts belong to the dismembered man or if there
- 12:25Speaker 7: are multiple victims.
- 12:27Speaker 6: When we're investigating a case like this, we're trying to
- 12:30Speaker 6: ascertain whether we're dealing with one victim or possibly multiple victims,
- 12:35Speaker 6: what we call co-mingling of skeletal remains. And so as
- 12:40Speaker 6: body parts are coming in, we're able to lay out
- 12:43Speaker 6: the body pieces on an autopsy table. We approximate them
- 12:49Speaker 6: into a reconstruction of the individual. We're looking for matching
- 12:54Speaker 6: parts that are consistent in sex, age, and race. This
- 12:59Speaker 6: articulation was consistent with the torso, on the neck structure,
- 13:05Speaker 6: and on the lower pelvic area. We were confident that
- 13:10Speaker 6: the body parts were from the same individual.
- 13:16Speaker 7: News of the discoveries quickly spreads through Racine County.
- 13:21Speaker 2: We had phone calls from everybody in the community saying,
- 13:25Speaker 2: could it possibly be my son? Could it possibly be
- 13:27Speaker 2: my cousin? Everybody was telling us that it could possibly
- 13:31Speaker 2: be somebody that they haven't seen for a long while.
- 13:35Speaker 7: At the morgue, Dr. Jensen uncovers a potential clue on
- 13:38Speaker 7: the victim's skin.
- 13:40Speaker 6: On the right upper shoulder, there was an intact tattoo
- 13:49Speaker 6: that indicated the Grateful Dead tour from 1988. So we'd
- 13:57Speaker 6: take a Polaroid photograph and release that to the law
- 14:00Speaker 6: enforcement who could then look for that individual.
- 14:04Speaker 7: It's not long before a concerned parent contacts police.
- 14:09Speaker 1: The victim had known tattoos on his shoulder and that
- 14:13Speaker 1: his father was able to look at that.
- 14:18Speaker 6: Once you have a suspected person, you can inquire about
- 14:23Speaker 6: dental records to help identify the individual.
- 14:28Speaker 7: Dental records confirm the dismembered body is that of 24-year-old
- 14:32Speaker 7: James Michael Madden, When.
- 14:36Speaker 2: We finally identified the victim as James Michael Madden, it
- 14:41Speaker 2: opened up a world of information to us. His friends
- 14:45Speaker 2: now we knew, his coworkers, his family, and we could
- 14:49Speaker 2: interview and talk to all of these resources in order
- 14:53Speaker 2: to find out if they had any information that would
- 14:55Speaker 2: help us prove what happened in the homicide.
- 14:58Speaker 7: Investigators look into the life of James Michael Madden.
- 15:02Speaker 2: He was from Milwaukee. And he seemed to be a
- 15:06Speaker 2: nice young man, going door to door, trying to sell
- 15:09Speaker 2: magazines and make some money.
- 15:12Speaker 7: They tracked down his girlfriend, Allie Winkler.
- 15:16Speaker 4: James, he lit up the room. He was very friendly, trusting,
- 15:22Speaker 4: never in a bad mood. Can't even picture him yelling
- 15:27Speaker 4: at someone. Just someone that was very nice to get
- 15:33Speaker 4: to know.
- 15:35Speaker 7: Lieutenant Ivanovsky questions Allie about the last time she saw James.
- 15:40Speaker 4: The day that ultimately was his last day, one of
- 15:45Speaker 4: my cats had had a birthday, and when he was leaving,
- 15:49Speaker 4: at the landing on the steps, he looked up and said,
- 15:53Speaker 4: don't forget, I still have Bogie's birthday present. And so
- 15:59Speaker 4: that is the image that I picture. The last time
- 16:02Speaker 4: I verbally spoke.
- 16:04Speaker 7: To him, Investigators learn that James then left for work
- 16:08Speaker 7: that morning. They speak with his fellow employees.
- 16:12Speaker 2: There was an organization called Citizens for a Better Environment
- 16:15Speaker 2: that James Michael Madden worked for, and they were brought
- 16:18Speaker 2: down to Racine County in a van and dropped off.
- 16:22Speaker 2: And each one of them had an area or a
- 16:24Speaker 2: path marked on a map that they were supposed to
- 16:27Speaker 2: go door to door and try to sell magazines.
- 16:31Speaker 7: By nightfall, James hadn't returned to the van for the
- 16:34Speaker 7: ride back to Milwaukee.
- 16:37Speaker 4: Jim never came home that night. So I went out
- 16:45Speaker 4: looking for him and I was keeping close contact with
- 16:49Speaker 4: his parents and for like three days it was just
- 16:55Speaker 4: not knowing anything. And then That Friday night, I was
- 17:03Speaker 4: watching the news, and they said, coming up, body parts
- 17:07Speaker 4: found in Racine, and I was holding a TV guide,
- 17:11Speaker 4: and I just dropped it, and it's like I just knew.
- 17:15Speaker 7: Detectives turned to the medical examiner to see if the
- 17:18Speaker 7: pattern of violence done to James' body might offer clues
- 17:22Speaker 7: about who did this to him.
- 17:24Speaker 6: Part of what a forensic pathologist does is to interpret
- 17:27Speaker 6: injury patterns and injuries. The presence of hemorrhage or blood
- 17:33Speaker 6: into the surrounding tissues would imply that the person is
- 17:36Speaker 6: alive at the time that the injury occurred. In this case,
- 17:42Speaker 6: we found an abrasion around the ankles. I made an
- 17:45Speaker 6: incision into the skin of the abrasion and was able
- 17:49Speaker 6: to see a hemorrhage, so that confirmed that it had
- 17:52Speaker 6: occurred prior to death.
- 17:55Speaker 7: The injury points to another disturbing clue about the circumstances
- 17:59Speaker 7: of James Madden's death.
- 18:01Speaker 6: There was upward angulation that might suggest some suspension, but
- 18:06Speaker 6: that's all I could ascertain from my examination.
- 18:12Speaker 2: The anger involved in dismemberment homicide is just beyond comprehension.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Somebody was really in a rage in order to do
- 18:18Speaker 2: this because you have to have a certain amount of
- 18:20Speaker 2: rage in your system in order to take a body
- 18:22Speaker 2: apart piece by piece by piece.
- 18:26Speaker 3: In cases where there is overkill, where the victim's body
- 18:31Speaker 3: is mutilated and it makes them almost unrecognizable, investigators will
- 18:36Speaker 3: see that as a clue that this person had extreme
- 18:40Speaker 3: rage in a way that is above and beyond what
- 18:43Speaker 3: we typically see in many homicide cases.
- 18:51Speaker 2: The thought that came to our mind is that he
- 18:52Speaker 2: knew the person who killed him.
- 18:56Speaker 7: James Michael Madden lived just outside of Milwaukee. Lieutenant Ivanovsky
- 19:02Speaker 7: widens the search into the city.
- 19:04Speaker 2: They were doing a canvas of the friends and people
- 19:07Speaker 2: that might have known James Michael Madden.
- 19:09Speaker 7: As they knock on doors, local police learn of something
- 19:12Speaker 7: strange close to where James lived.
- 19:15Speaker 2: They received information that an individual living in the city
- 19:19Speaker 2: of Milwaukee had what they call a diorama. And inside
- 19:26Speaker 2: this diorama with these walls and rooms and furniture were
- 19:30Speaker 2: little miniature people. And these figures were dismembered.
- 19:40Speaker 7: The level of anger behind the mutilations instantly raises investigators' eyebrows.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Some of them had no arms, some of them had
- 19:48Speaker 2: no legs, and they were bleeding.
- 19:52Speaker 7: Detectives question the motive behind the diorama's design.
- 19:56Speaker 2: It made it look like this had been an extreme
- 20:00Speaker 2: homicide case. And it triggered somebody to say, Who could
- 20:09Speaker 2: think up something like this?
- 20:17Speaker 7: Detectives are searching for James Madden's killer. A strange diorama
- 20:22Speaker 7: found near his home is their newest lead.
- 20:26Speaker 2: One of the very thoughts that we had when the
- 20:28Speaker 2: diorama was discovered was that the killer, he was memorializing
- 20:33Speaker 2: an actual crime or maybe more than one crime.
- 20:37Speaker 7: Investigators wonder if the disturbing creation is somehow linked to
- 20:42Speaker 7: Madden's brutal murder.
- 20:45Speaker 5: When you get an emotional kill or an overkill or
- 20:48Speaker 5: a frenzy kill, it's someone that you could have killed
- 20:51Speaker 5: with two or three stab wounds, yet you choose to
- 20:53Speaker 5: kill them with 45 or 50 stab wounds. You've gone
- 20:56Speaker 5: far further than is necessary.
- 21:02Speaker 2: It was awful, very baffling. We looked for any similarities
- 21:10Speaker 2: to the cuts and dismemberment that we had in Racine County.
- 21:14Speaker 2: And there were similarities.
- 21:16Speaker 7: Investigators now look for any connection between the creator of
- 21:20Speaker 7: the diorama and the victim.
- 21:23Speaker 2: We did a thorough investigation of the person that prepared
- 21:26Speaker 2: this diorama. And there was absolutely no evidence that he
- 21:31Speaker 2: could have possibly been involved. It actually turned out that
- 21:37Speaker 2: he was an artist and that he had done this
- 21:39Speaker 2: as an art project.
- 21:43Speaker 7: Dr. Jensen continues the autopsy and finds a wound that
- 21:46Speaker 7: sheds new light on the case.
- 21:50Speaker 6: The left hand has a sharply incised defect through the
- 21:54Speaker 6: palm of the hand. It looked like it was what
- 21:57Speaker 6: we would typically see as a defensive-type wound where an
- 22:01Speaker 6: individual would have attempted to grab a knife, for example,
- 22:05Speaker 6: under attack.
- 22:08Speaker 7: It's clear that James Madden was fighting for his life.
- 22:13Speaker 7: Then Dr. Jensen discovers what ultimately killed him.
- 22:18Speaker 6: We x-rayed the skull, and there were fragments of a bullet.
- 22:26Speaker 6: It was the only real tangible evidence we had into
- 22:30Speaker 6: what may have caused the death. More importantly, this evidence
- 22:35Speaker 6: could be recovered and examined in the laboratory to find
- 22:39Speaker 6: out the identity of the bullet.
- 22:44Speaker 7: As the fragments are sent for analysis, Dr. Jensen looks
- 22:49Speaker 7: for any other clues to help identify the killer.
- 22:54Speaker 6: There was a patterned injury over the palm of the
- 22:57Speaker 6: right hand, which to me looked like charring or some
- 23:01Speaker 6: kind of attempt to burn off the identifying fingerprints off
- 23:06Speaker 6: the right hand. The external genitalia was removed. The heart,
- 23:13Speaker 6: the liver, the right adrenal gland, the right kidney are gone.
- 23:18Speaker 6: The skull had been fragmented. That would have allowed for
- 23:24Speaker 6: the brain to be removed.
- 23:29Speaker 5: When you have a killer who has gone to these lengths,
- 23:32Speaker 5: you're dealing with emotional and mental health issues as well,
- 23:35Speaker 5: which makes them very, very unpredictable. And it is a
- 23:41Speaker 5: much larger challenge because now you can't find what the
- 23:44Speaker 5: motivation was. It wasn't money, it wasn't drugs, it wasn't sex.
- 23:47Speaker 5: It was far deeper than that. It changes the entire
- 23:53Speaker 5: direction of a homicide investigation.
- 23:59Speaker 7: Dr. Jensen's discoveries lead investigators to consider a chilling new possibility.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Everybody was fearful, of course, that there could be a
- 24:10Speaker 2: serial killer in the area.
- 24:15Speaker 3: One of the biggest shared characteristics of serial killers is psychopathy.
- 24:20Speaker 3: They lack empathy. Serial killers often get a thrill out
- 24:26Speaker 3: of controlling another person. And that can mean sexually, it
- 24:31Speaker 3: can mean socially, and it can be done also through violence.
- 24:36Speaker 1: This was for sort of a hate after death thing.
- 24:40Speaker 1: With removing vital organs such as the heart and the kidneys,
- 24:44Speaker 1: these were things that didn't need to be done in
- 24:46Speaker 1: order to conceal a body. This was of great concern
- 24:52Speaker 1: to the police because serial killers, they keep killing unless
- 24:56Speaker 1: they're caught.
- 24:58Speaker 7: To establish if they're chasing a serial killer, investigators search
- 25:03Speaker 7: for crimes with identical MOs.
- 25:06Speaker 2: There were about two or three other dismemberment homicides in
- 25:09Speaker 2: the country at the time. We did conduct a thorough
- 25:14Speaker 2: investigation to see if there possibly could be any kind
- 25:16Speaker 2: of a connection. The cuts on our homicide victim were
- 25:23Speaker 2: extremely clean. They were done by somebody with a lot
- 25:27Speaker 2: of knowledge about dismembering deer or a cow. A butcher,
- 25:31Speaker 2: for instance, would leave very clean cuts at the joints.
- 25:39Speaker 2: All of the other homicides that could have possibly been
- 25:42Speaker 2: similar had horribly terrible torn cuts used like with a saw.
- 25:48Speaker 2: There was no connection whatsoever.
- 25:54Speaker 6: The similarities were rather weak because of the different methods
- 25:59Speaker 6: of dismemberment.
- 26:03Speaker 7: Unable to connect James Madden's murder to a larger pattern,
- 26:07Speaker 7: investigators take a closer look at his final day.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Citizens for a Better Environment actually provided us with the
- 26:15Speaker 2: route that he was supposed to follow from house to house,
- 26:18Speaker 2: and we talked to individuals who had actually talked to him.
- 26:21Speaker 2: And they all said he was a very nice young man.
- 26:23Speaker 2: He was very polite. He came up to their house
- 26:25Speaker 2: and tried to sell them magazines.
- 26:28Speaker 7: Detective Ivanovsky determines the last house that James visited.
- 26:34Speaker 1: We knew that the next house that he would go
- 26:37Speaker 1: to was Mr.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Dressler's house.
- 26:41Speaker 7: Investigators knock at the door of the sprawling 17-acre farm
- 26:45Speaker 7: belonging to Joachim Dressler.
- 26:49Speaker 2: When the sheriff arrived, Roehner and myself were talking to him.
- 26:52Speaker 2: He was telling us that he had no contact with
- 26:54Speaker 2: anybody from anywhere and that he had not seen anybody
- 26:58Speaker 2: soliciting any money or doing anything like that.
- 27:02Speaker 7: As Dressler talks with law enforcement, Lieutenant Ivanovsky studies his
- 27:07Speaker 7: body language.
- 27:09Speaker 2: It was his eye movements. It was his voice inflection.
- 27:15Speaker 2: It was the look on his face. It was the
- 27:18Speaker 2: hand movements that he used. And when we drove out
- 27:22Speaker 2: of the driveway, Sheriff Roehner and myself, we both had
- 27:27Speaker 2: the same feeling. We felt in our hearts that there
- 27:31Speaker 2: was something wrong. There's more to this than what he
- 27:35Speaker 2: was telling us.
- 27:37Speaker 7: Investigators have a hunch one county resident is hiding something
- 27:42Speaker 7: about James Michael Madden's murder. Mr.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Dressler, he was married and had two children. I don't
- 27:51Speaker 1: think he was on the police radar.
- 27:55Speaker 2: I used the word hinky. He did not look like
- 27:58Speaker 2: he was telling us the truth. We knew that Mr.
- 28:03Speaker 1: Dressler had admitted to being home alone. His wife and
- 28:06Speaker 1: two children were not there, so there was opportunity.
- 28:11Speaker 7: Police need more to tie Joakim Dressler to the murder.
- 28:16Speaker 7: They take a hard look at his life.
- 28:21Speaker 2: The neighbor right next to Joachim Dressler said that many
- 28:24Speaker 2: of his dogs had been killed by Joachim Dressler, and
- 28:27Speaker 2: he knew this for a fact. Another neighbor stated that
- 28:33Speaker 2: they saw Joachim Dressler late at night wandering on his property, naked,
- 28:40Speaker 2: going from tree to tree and dancing through the woods.
- 28:44Speaker 2: You have to be extremely careful with every one of
- 28:46Speaker 2: these stories, and then you have to prove it or
- 28:48Speaker 2: disprove it.
- 28:50Speaker 7: Detectives also examine his personal life.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Joachim Dressler, he worked as an elevator repairman in the
- 28:57Speaker 2: city of Milwaukee. Every elevator has a closet where they
- 29:01Speaker 2: have all the mechanics for an elevator. And in every
- 29:06Speaker 2: one of the closets which he was responsible for were
- 29:08Speaker 2: bottles of vodka, and he would drink between one or
- 29:12Speaker 2: two bottles of vodka during an eight-hour shift. So Joachim
- 29:16Speaker 2: Dressler was an extreme alcoholic.
- 29:19Speaker 7: As Lieutenant Ivanovsky continues to gather information, Dr. Jensen receives
- 29:26Speaker 7: a surprise visit.
- 29:29Speaker 6: Very early one morning, there was an individual who came
- 29:34Speaker 6: to the morgue doors and asked to see me. He
- 29:38Speaker 6: informed me that he was... an expert in plastic bags
- 29:43Speaker 6: and that he could help me. The case by that
- 29:46Speaker 6: time was in the newspapers, and the yellow plastic bags
- 29:50Speaker 6: were well described in the newspaper. There's a lot of
- 29:53Speaker 6: crazy people that think they're experts in things and certainly
- 29:58Speaker 6: are attracted to cases like this. So that was my
- 30:02Speaker 6: major concern. And so I actually interviewed him for some time.
- 30:08Speaker 1: He had been a bag manufacturer for 40 years. He
- 30:12Speaker 1: had a chemical engineering background.
- 30:15Speaker 6: I showed him the plastic bags. He immediately kind of
- 30:19Speaker 6: dropped to his knees. and cradled the plastic bag. He
- 30:24Speaker 6: examined the edges and felt the texture of the bags.
- 30:32Speaker 6: And he finally stood up and looked at me and
- 30:34Speaker 6: he said, these bags are manufactured in only two places
- 30:39Speaker 6: in the world and that they are typically used for
- 30:44Speaker 6: charity fundraising events.
- 30:49Speaker 7: Lieutenant Ivanovsky chases down the lead.
- 30:54Speaker 2: There was a school on the north side of Milwaukee
- 30:57Speaker 2: that actually was selling these yellow plastic bags and as
- 31:01Speaker 2: a fundraiser. A relative of Mrs. Dressler worked at this school,
- 31:09Speaker 2: and she had actually sold yellow plastic bags to Mrs. Dressler.
- 31:14Speaker 2: So now we had a direct connection of these plastic
- 31:17Speaker 2: bags to Joachim Dressler.
- 31:22Speaker 7: Armed with new evidence, police obtain a search warrant for
- 31:26Speaker 7: the Dressler's property.
- 31:27Speaker 2: This house was in the middle of 17 acres of property,
- 31:38Speaker 2: some of which was plowed land and some of which
- 31:40Speaker 2: was wooded land and some of which was grassland.
- 31:47Speaker 7: So.
- 31:48Speaker 2: This was quite an extensive search. We're looking for any
- 32:03Speaker 2: trace evidence. We're looking for anything that might link Joachim
- 32:09Speaker 2: Dressler to the homicide of James Michael Madden. I went
- 32:17Speaker 2: down the basement. We discovered extreme amounts of pornography. All
- 32:32Speaker 2: of it, for the most part, was homosexual pornography. And
- 32:37Speaker 2: it was just remarkable that all of this existed in
- 32:39Speaker 2: a family man's house with two little children. There was
- 32:47Speaker 2: a possibility that he was living a lie.
- 32:51Speaker 7: As investigators move through the home, police uncover much more
- 32:55Speaker 7: alarming material.
- 32:59Speaker 1: Some of the things that he had were snuff films,
- 33:02Speaker 1: sexual films of people being murdered. And he was obviously
- 33:06Speaker 1: very fascinated by this.
- 33:09Speaker 2: We discovered a hoist inside the garage. And he told
- 33:16Speaker 2: us that he used it to lift motors out of cars.
- 33:23Speaker 2: but it could very easily have been used to hang
- 33:26Speaker 2: a body from and dismember the body in his garage.
- 33:31Speaker 7: The search continues to turn up highly suspicious items.
- 33:38Speaker 6: When police arrived at the scene, the suspect's child was
- 33:44Speaker 6: out in the backyard flying a kite. and the kite
- 33:54Speaker 6: was made of yellow plastic bags.
- 34:02Speaker 2: So we took the kite, we had it analyzed, and
- 34:06Speaker 2: it was discovered to be the same plastic material that
- 34:08Speaker 2: James Michael Madden had been found in.
- 34:12Speaker 7: Police combed through the house, looking for a murder weapon.
- 34:16Speaker 2: We did find a pistol... as well as some bullets.
- 34:24Speaker 1: There were bullet fragments found in the skull remains of
- 34:30Speaker 1: our victim, but those were unable to be matched up conclusively.
- 34:35Speaker 2: However, the gun that we found was very similar in
- 34:40Speaker 2: caliber to the bullet hole in James Michael Madden's head.
- 34:44Speaker 7: As detectives wrap up their search of the home, they
- 34:47Speaker 7: make another shocking discovery.
- 34:52Speaker 2: One of the investigators came to me and he says,
- 34:53Speaker 2: you have to see this, of course. And so I
- 34:55Speaker 2: went down the basement with him and Joachim Dressler had
- 34:59Speaker 2: a tanning booth in the basement. And if you stepped
- 35:02Speaker 2: inside this aluminum shell, up above the door on the
- 35:05Speaker 2: inside was written in black permanent ink, J. Madden. And
- 35:14Speaker 2: of course that's the victim.
- 35:19Speaker 7: As detectives gather evidence from Joachim Dressler's home, one of
- 35:24Speaker 7: his neighbors shares stunning new information with police.
- 35:28Speaker 1: While he was being investigated, he talked to a neighbor,
- 35:31Speaker 1: and for some reason, he told the neighbor that he
- 35:34Speaker 1: had killed our victim.
- 35:40Speaker 2: That is how we ended up making an arrest of
- 35:42Speaker 2: Joachim Dressler.
- 35:45Speaker 7: Police charge their suspect with first-degree intentional homicide. Only now,
- 35:51Speaker 7: Joakim Dressler is trying to pass off the vicious murder
- 35:54Speaker 7: as an accident.
- 35:56Speaker 1: He said that they were in the backyard shooting and
- 35:58Speaker 1: that he had accidentally discharged a pistol and it shot
- 36:03Speaker 1: the victim in the.
- 36:04Speaker 2: Back of the head.
- 36:04Speaker 1: And then he then just panicked, so to speak, and
- 36:07Speaker 1: dismembered the body and disposed of it. That wasn't our
- 36:12Speaker 1: theory of what happened, of course. We thought that he
- 36:16Speaker 1: killed him deliberately. Exactly why? Was it just an opportunity
- 36:20Speaker 1: that he could finally relive his fantasies, his fascination with death,
- 36:24Speaker 1: and recreate it? His family was gone, and he had
- 36:30Speaker 1: a number of tools that we recovered which could have
- 36:32Speaker 1: been used to sever the body and cut it into pieces.
- 36:36Speaker 7: The prosecution looks to the medical examiner to show what
- 36:39Speaker 7: really happened to James Madden.
- 36:44Speaker 6: He's got a defensive injury that he confronted his attacker.
- 36:48Speaker 6: Then you have ligature marks, abnormal stab wounds and mutilations, emasculations, dismemberments,
- 36:57Speaker 6: and attempts to hide and sequester a body. And so
- 37:03Speaker 6: it becomes an unbelievable story to connect an accidental firearm
- 37:09Speaker 6: injury with the type of death that this victim experienced.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Dr.
- 37:19Speaker 7: Jensen's findings clearly point to a cruel and deliberate murder.
- 37:25Speaker 7: The prosecution lays out its own theory of what happened
- 37:28Speaker 7: once James Madden arrived at the remote farmhouse.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Mr.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Dressler propositioned our victim for a homosexual relationship and he
- 37:40Speaker 1: may have turned Mr. Dressler down and then that may
- 37:42Speaker 1: have set him off in some way.
- 37:45Speaker 7: Joakim Dressler then attacked James with a knife as the
- 37:49Speaker 7: young man tried to leave.
- 37:51Speaker 2: And I think that Joakim Dressler was very drunk and
- 37:55Speaker 2: became angry and shot James Madden in the head. He
- 38:01Speaker 2: pulled the body into the garage, hung him from that hook,
- 38:05Speaker 2: from the hoist, dismembered the body, and hid it in
- 38:09Speaker 2: Racine County and several different places.
- 38:13Speaker 7: To bolster their theory, the prosecution calls on a man
- 38:17Speaker 7: with a haunting tale.
- 38:19Speaker 1: We had another witness at the trial, a man named
- 38:21Speaker 1: Keith Erickson, who had a very similar episode to our victim,
- 38:26Speaker 1: and we offered him as what's called other acts evidence
- 38:29Speaker 1: for motive for Mr.
- 38:31Speaker 2: Dressler.
- 38:34Speaker 1: Mr. Erickson came over to the house to look at
- 38:37Speaker 1: buying a car. They both had an interest in guns,
- 38:40Speaker 1: and they were shooting guns in the backyard.
- 38:46Speaker 7: Mr.
- 38:47Speaker 2: Dressler and Mr.
- 38:48Speaker 1: Erickson engaged in consensual sex. He was taken into the
- 38:55Speaker 1: garage and shown the hoist, which we believe was used
- 39:00Speaker 1: to hold our victim upside down when he was attached
- 39:04Speaker 1: at his ankles. Mr. Erickson said that Mr. Dressler had
- 39:07Speaker 1: made reference to this device and shown it to.
- 39:12Speaker 7: Him. Mr.
- 39:13Speaker 1: Erickson was able to walk away unscathed But when he
- 39:16Speaker 1: found out what had happened to our victim, I remember
- 39:19Speaker 1: sitting in the interview with him. It was a very
- 39:21Speaker 1: scary interview for him, and he was, from his viewpoint,
- 39:25Speaker 1: lucky to be alive to be able to get out
- 39:27Speaker 1: of there.
- 39:30Speaker 7: With all the evidence and the testimony of Mr. Erickson,
- 39:33Speaker 7: the jury appears convinced of Joe Akeem Dressler's guilt. Then,
- 39:39Speaker 7: a major curveball.
- 39:42Speaker 2: When we were at trial, the Milwaukee Police Department arrested
- 39:45Speaker 2: an individual named Jeffrey Dahmer.
- 39:48Speaker 7: Jeffrey Dahmer was a psychotic serial killer. He sexually assaulted
- 39:52Speaker 7: and dismembered 17 young men and was operating just 30
- 39:57Speaker 7: miles away.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Of course, the defense attorney was screaming that there is
- 40:01Speaker 2: definitely a connection and that Jeffrey Dahmer probably killed James
- 40:04Speaker 2: Michael Madden.
- 40:08Speaker 1: You never want to underestimate what can go wrong.
- 40:11Speaker 2: In a trial.
- 40:13Speaker 7: In one of the most defining cases of his career, Dr.
- 40:17Speaker 7: Jensen becomes the lead medical examiner in the Dahmer case.
- 40:23Speaker 1: If the Dahmer evidence had been allowed to be introduced
- 40:27Speaker 1: to our jury, it would have been, I think, a disaster.
- 40:30Speaker 1: It certainly would have confused our jury. We'd have to
- 40:33Speaker 1: combat that the entire time.
- 40:37Speaker 7: It's up to Dr. Jensen to untangle the disturbing parallels
- 40:40Speaker 7: between Dressler and Dahmer.
- 40:43Speaker 6: They were attempting to connect the two cases by what
- 40:47Speaker 6: they interpreted as similarities. Forensic pathologists are advocates for their
- 40:55Speaker 6: scientific opinions. You're not to be manipulated by one theory
- 40:59Speaker 6: over another theory, and you use your evidence to corroborate
- 41:03Speaker 6: and validate. I did not think that the two cases
- 41:07Speaker 6: were involved because of the different methods of dismemberment and
- 41:14Speaker 6: the different modalities of injury. And so it was my
- 41:18Speaker 6: opinion that they were not related.
- 41:24Speaker 2: Dr.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Jensen provided us with the overwhelming evidence to seal, I think, Mr.
- 41:29Speaker 1: Dressler's fate. In the end, we did a three-week trial.
- 41:33Speaker 1: It only took the jury two hours to return a
- 41:35Speaker 1: guilty verdict. He was found guilty of first-degree intentional homicide
- 41:42Speaker 1: while armed with a dangerous weapon.
- 41:46Speaker 7: Joe Akeem Dressler is sentenced to life in prison.
- 41:51Speaker 1: At the sentencing, the judge made the statements what a
- 41:53Speaker 1: horrific crime it was and that he'd never seen anything
- 41:56Speaker 1: like this in his 20 years on the bench. James
- 42:00Speaker 1: Madden was a completely innocent victim doing his job. And
- 42:05Speaker 1: he went to somebody's house, and it was the wrong house, unfortunately,
- 42:08Speaker 1: for him.
- 42:13Speaker 4: Still miss him. And think about what would have happened
- 42:19Speaker 4: with us. What would he be like in now, his 50s?
- 42:28Speaker 1: Dr.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Jeffrey Jensen did a phenomenal job. It's a tremendous sense
- 42:31Speaker 2: of relief to know that all of the work and
- 42:33Speaker 2: effort of all of the individuals that were involved in
- 42:36Speaker 2: the investigation did a good enough job to put Joachim
- 42:39Speaker 2: Dressler in jail for the rest of his life so
- 42:42Speaker 2: that there won't be any more innocent victims.
- 42:48Speaker 6: I'm relieved and happy that we got it right, that
- 42:53Speaker 6: the detailed examination to capture the evidence that was helpful
- 42:58Speaker 6: and useful bringing, you know, an individual to justice.