Latest / The Catholic Current / Novel Prophecies Pt. 7 - Forster’s “The Machine Stops” (Fr. Robert McTeigue, S.J.) 8/28/26
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- 0:00This is The Catholic Current with Father Robert
- 0:03McTague. So, very blunt
- 0:07formulation that J.F. Powers often used was God doesn't like crap. Like, it's got to
- 0:11be sort of, uh, he said it, not me.
- 0:14So I'm just— but this idea that it has to first of all
- 0:18be good fiction, and then we'll talk about, you know, its other merits. But if
- 0:22you— if it doesn't work on that level of craft and, and form
- 0:26and plot, then it won't work on a theological
- 0:30level either.
- 0:33Praise be Jesus Christ. This is Father Robert McTeague of the Society of
- 0:37Jesus, your daily host for The Catholic Current, where we bring Christ to the world
- 0:40and the world to Christ. You're listening to us from the Station of the Cross
- 0:43Studios, your local radio station, the iCatholic Radio mobile app.
- 0:47We proclaim the fullness of truth with clarity and charity.
- 0:50As always, let's start with prayer. In the name of the Father,
- 0:53Son, and the Holy Spirit. Almighty God, through the intercession of Saint Ignatius Loyola,
- 0:57we ask that you pour forth your Holy Spirit upon us, a spirit of discernment,
- 1:01that we might hear your voice and obey your command. In the name of the
- 1:04Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Hey friends, it's Friday here at The Catholic
- 1:08Current. You know what that means? You and me, let's talk about this, walking through
- 1:12a complex issue together. I am continuing with our series called Novel
- 1:16Prophecies. This is part 7. I'm pleased to say that
- 1:20people have been responding very warmly. They like the idea of me walking through
- 1:24some important future-oriented fiction so
- 1:28that we can look at our own times and our near future.
- 1:32In a clearer light. And this is a short story.
- 1:35Now you can buy it online, or I'm
- 1:39also going to have Mr. Producer— excuse me, Mr. Engineer— link to the
- 1:43PDF if you just want to download the PDF. If you buy it online,
- 1:46it's 50 pages. If you print it out on the PDF, it's, it's only
- 1:5025. It'd take a half hour, 40 minutes
- 1:54to read, and it's called The Machine Stops by
- 1:58E.M. Forster. Didn't know about this. I stumbled upon
- 2:02it doing research for, for the series, and it was published
- 2:05in 1909. And that should stop us
- 2:09in our tracks because of what he
- 2:13foresaw. Now, 1909,
- 2:18radio in the home, certainly not a thing.
- 2:21Telephones are still relatively rare.
- 2:25Television, computers, the internet unimaginable,
- 2:32and yet he's writing about something that sounds like it could be written
- 2:36today or in our near future. Now, there are people who were sounding the
- 2:40alarm regarding our unhealthy relationship
- 2:45with technology. I think of Neil Postman's Amusing Ourselves
- 2:49to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business,
- 2:52and that was written in the '80s, and it was Telling Cautionary
- 2:56Tales About Television. And then later there's a book called The
- 3:01Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains,
- 3:04Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention and How to Think Deeply Again.
- 3:08I can go on and on, but this is 1909.
- 3:16I am boggled by that. So I'm just going to read
- 3:20to you the, the opening paragraph of this short story.
- 3:24Listen to this. Remember, written in 1909,
- 3:28probably with a dip pen or a fountain pen.
- 3:32Foster writes, imagine, if you can, a small room,
- 3:36hexagonal in shape, like the cell of a bee.
- 3:39It is lighted neither by window nor by lamp,
- 3:42yet it is filled with a soft radiance.
- 3:46There are no apparatus for ventilation, yet the air is fresh.
- 3:50There are no musical instruments, and yet, at the moment that my
- 3:54meditation opens, this room is throbbing with
- 3:58melodious sounds. An armchair is in the centre,
- 4:02by its side a reading desk— that is all the furniture—
- 4:06and in the armchair there sits a swaddled lump of flesh,
- 4:11a woman, about 5 feet high, with a face as white
- 4:15as a fungus. It is to her that the little
- 4:19room belongs. Isn't that boggling?
- 4:23This is, you know, a century before when we
- 4:27nested during COVID And there's
- 4:31an electric bell ringing. As the woman touched a switch and
- 4:34the music was silent, I suppose I must see
- 4:38who it is, she thought, and set her chair in motion.
- 4:42The chair, like the music, was worked by machinery,
- 4:47and it rolled her to the other side of the room where the bell still
- 4:51rang. Who is it? she called. Her voice was irritable,
- 4:55for she had been interrupted often since the music began.
- 4:59Listen to this. He says she knew
- 5:03several thousand people. In certain directions,
- 5:06human intercourse had advanced enormously.
- 5:10Now, we know this on social media where, you know, you've got 1,000
- 5:14friends on Facebook or, you know, 10,000 followers on
- 5:17YouTube or X and so on. You know,
- 5:22I, against my better judgment, I have a personal Substack
- 5:26account and the only thing I put there are my sermons and
- 5:30the Catholic Current. And every now and again you see, you know, so-and-so is
- 5:34following you. And so-and-so was following this Substack,
- 5:38that Substack, and 300 others.
- 5:44I said, oh, how is it possible?
- 5:48I mean, if it were your full-time job and you work 12
- 5:52hours a day, 7 days a week, how could you follow 300
- 5:56Substack accounts? And yet here
- 6:00we are. So she's disgruntled because someone
- 6:04has interrupted her music. Remember,
- 6:06there's no instruments, there's no musician, and remember, there's no
- 6:10radio yet. And he first saw this,
- 6:13so she, uh, she touched the isolation
- 6:17knob so that no one else could speak to her. Then she touched
- 6:21the lighting apparatus and the little room was plunged into darkness.
- 6:25Now remember, this is before electric lighting in the home was a common thing.
- 6:30Uh, be quick. And she said it was fully 15 seconds
- 6:35before the round plate that she held in her hands began
- 6:39to glow. A faint blue light shot across it,
- 6:43darkening to purple, and presently she could see the image of her
- 6:47son who lived on the other side of the earth, and he could see
- 6:51her. He foresaw FaceTime.
- 6:55He first saw FaceTime. So they start a conversation and her son
- 6:59says, I want you to come see me. And the
- 7:03mother says, but I can see you. What more do you want?
- 7:07And he says, I want to see you not through the Machine.
- 7:11Now in this story, Machine has a capital M, just like we
- 7:15capitalize Internet, you know, as if it were a
- 7:19proper name. And she says, oh, hush,
- 7:23you mustn't say anything against the Machine. Why not,
- 7:26Mother? One mustn't.
- 7:29So there is a reverence
- 7:33for the Machine that provides everything
- 7:38for her. Jumping ahead, she talks about all the buttons in
- 7:42her little beehive of a room. There was the button
- 7:46that produced literature, and there were, of course, the buttons by which
- 7:49she communicated with her friends. The room through it contained
- 7:53nothing, was in touch with all that she cared for in the
- 7:57world. And she's talking about the crazy idea
- 8:02her son has that they should meet in person.
- 8:05She says the clumsy system of public gatherings
- 8:08had long since been abandoned. And she's giving
- 8:13lectures, and she says neither she nor her audience stirred from
- 8:16their rooms. Seated in her armchair, she spoke while
- 8:20they, in their armchairs, heard her fairly well and saw
- 8:24her fairly well. And so there it is.
- 8:29You've got Zoom. And then she's
- 8:33complaining that she didn't like her bed. She said
- 8:37the bed was not to her liking. It was too large, and she had a
- 8:40feeling for a small bed. Complaint was useless, for beds were of the same dimension
- 8:44all over the world. And to have an alternative size would have
- 8:48involved vast alterations in the machine.
- 8:53Well, and then she, uh, she has a little analog
- 8:57book, and it's called The Book of the Machine.
- 9:01And in a certain sense, it kind of reminds me of AI.
- 9:04It says, in the Book of the Machine were instructions against
- 9:08every possible contingency. If she was hot or cold
- 9:12or dyspeptic or at a loss for a word, she went to the book and
- 9:16it told her which button to push. The Central Committee published
- 9:20it. In accordance with a growing habit, it was richly bound.
- 9:25Sitting up in the bed, she took it reverently in her hands. She glanced round
- 9:29the glowing room as if someone had been watching her. Then, half ashamed,
- 9:33half joyful, she murmured, O machine!
- 9:37And raised the volume to her lips. I'm thinking of a very
- 9:41good Catholic family I know. And their oldest girl
- 9:45is a very, very sweet, devout girl. I think she's a sophomore in high school.
- 9:50And her mother had to admonish her and said, sweetie, put down
- 9:53the phone when I'm talking to you. And the girl said,
- 9:57okay, Mom, but can I leave
- 10:01the phone where I can still see it? Oh,
- 10:04machine. And she pressed it to her lips.
- 10:09I think that's the direction they're going. I mean, I remember several years
- 10:12ago some, you know, brain surgeon in
- 10:16California had required all 6th graders to get a tablet.
- 10:21And they told— the parents told the girl, said, hey, it's the weekend.
- 10:25Have a life instead of the tablet. And they took the tablet away. And she
- 10:29reacted like a meth addict and assaulted her parents
- 10:33and destroyed the house to the point where the police
- 10:37had to come and taser her. Because she had
- 10:41become that addicted. We see
- 10:45this in our own lives with people whom we love, people whom we know,
- 10:49and yet E.M. Forster saw this in
- 10:521909, and he has a
- 10:57remedy. I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTeague, your host every day at The Catholic
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- 12:20Praise be Jesus Christ. This is Father Robert McTeague of the Society of Jesus,
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- 12:55Friday at the Catholic Current. You know what that means— another round of Let's Talk
- 12:59About This. We walk through a complex issue together. We're up to part 7 in
- 13:03my series called Novel Prophecies, and we're reviewing a short story
- 13:07written by E.M. Forster called The Machine Stops, written in
- 13:111909. And I want to emphasize
- 13:15how the foresight, the prescience that Forster had.
- 13:19Now, how bad is machine addiction
- 13:23today? Well, let me, uh, give you another example. A tragic story came
- 13:27out of India recently. It looks like a teenage son and his
- 13:31parents went off a cliff together. Well, how did that happen?
- 13:34Well, he wanted a new iPhone I forget if he was 16 or 19
- 13:39years old, and his parents said no. So he ran to the
- 13:43nearby cliff and threatened to throw himself off because there was just no
- 13:47reason to go on living if he didn't have the latest iPhone.
- 13:51He went to throw himself off and his father tried to stop him.
- 13:54He got dragged off the cliff too. Wife and mother saw father
- 13:58and husband and son go off the cliff and she threw herself off
- 14:03the cliff. And you say, well, but Father, that's— this guy had something
- 14:06else wrong with him if he was going to throw himself
- 14:11off the cliff because he couldn't get a new iPhone. Okay, fair.
- 14:14But in the gaming world,
- 14:18uh, there is about to be released the hot game that
- 14:22supposedly everybody who's anybody had been waiting for for years,
- 14:26Grand Theft Auto 6. Just leave it alone.
- 14:30Don't look it up. And the Army is offering a recruitment bonus
- 14:34for soldiers. We will give you a 4-day
- 14:37weekend to do nothing but play Grand Theft Auto 6
- 14:42if you re-enlist. If you give the Army another
- 14:462 or 4 years of your life, you'll get a 4-day— I
- 14:51mean, that seems to be a better deal than, you know— no, I'm not gonna
- 14:54say it. I'm not gonna say it. Um, we're in trouble,
- 14:58and Foster foresaw the
- 15:02trouble that we're in. Let me give you, uh, some more examples.
- 15:05So she, um, she sleeps
- 15:09in her little hive cell, and not because of, you know,
- 15:13things like sunlight. Listen to this: she made
- 15:17the room dark and slept. She awoke and made the room light.
- 15:22She ate and exchanged ideas with her friends, and listened to
- 15:26music and attended lectures. She made the room dark and slept.
- 15:30Above her, beneath her, and around her, the Machine,
- 15:33capital M, hummed eternally.
- 15:36She did not notice the noise, for she had been born with it in her
- 15:40ears. The earth carrying her hummed as it sped through
- 15:43silence, turning her now to the invisible sun,
- 15:47now to the invisible stars. She awoke and
- 15:51made the room light. So, you know, when Gen Z says, you know, go out,
- 15:54touch grass, she would be horrified at
- 15:59the idea because light and dark, the cycle
- 16:03of hours and rhythm and seasons, it's all gone.
- 16:07It's all gone. The machine provides
- 16:12a cocoon for her. And in that cocoon is
- 16:15all the material stimulation she could want
- 16:19to the point that she's
- 16:23forgotten any other way of life.
- 16:27There are students I've taught who
- 16:32did not exist before there was Amazon.
- 16:36Think about what that means, taking Amazon for granted. Again,
- 16:40I'm going to— indulge me, please. I'm going to read a paragraph.
- 16:44The main character, by the way, her name is Vashti.
- 16:47She said— of course, Forster writes, of course she knew all
- 16:51about the communication system. There was nothing mysterious in it.
- 16:55She would summon a car and it would fly with her down the tunnel until
- 17:00it reached the lift that communicated with the airship station.
- 17:03And the airship station was part of a system that had been used
- 17:07for many years long before the universal establishment
- 17:12of the Machine. And of course she had studied the civilisation
- 17:15that had immediately preceded her own, the civilisation that had
- 17:19mistaken the functions of the System, that had used it for bringing people
- 17:23to things instead of for bringing things
- 17:27to people. Those funny old days when men went for change
- 17:31of air instead of changing the air in their rooms. And yet
- 17:35she was frightened of the tunnel. She had not seen it since her last child
- 17:39was born. It curved, but not quite as she remembered.
- 17:43It was brilliant, but not quite as brilliant as the lecture had suggested.
- 17:49Vashti was seized with the terrors of direct experience.
- 17:54She shrank back into the room, and the wall closed up
- 17:57again. She shrank from the terrors of direct
- 18:01experience. I remember talking with students who had found Miss Wonderful
- 18:05or Mr. Wonderful, and they would do all this texting
- 18:09back and forth. And I said, you know, that device in your
- 18:12hand, it communicates voice too. Oh no, no, no, no,
- 18:16I said, a phone call would be too
- 18:20intimate. And that reminds me of— try to phrase this
- 18:24delicately— a friend of mine refers to it as the devil's
- 18:29pixels, you know, pornography. And sometimes you
- 18:33talk with a heartbroken spouse who discovers that her husband has a
- 18:37porn addiction, which is horrifying for everyone. And she
- 18:41would ask, well, what do those women have that I don't have? And I
- 18:45said, that's absolutely the wrong question. It's because of what you
- 18:49do have. It's because you're real,
- 18:53you're 3-dimensional, you're finite. And you have
- 18:56priorities and limits and preferences because
- 19:01it takes effort to get to know you and appreciate
- 19:04you. Ultimately, because you're a mystery.
- 19:09Where the pixels, that's just
- 19:142-dimensional. It's flat. It's non-demanding.
- 19:18It's always available. And if
- 19:22someone gets bored, there's always another one.
- 19:25There's always novelty. There's always something
- 19:29else one click away. You never get
- 19:33to the last page or the bottom of the internet.
- 19:37And we've set people up to be addicted
- 19:41to that. We have rearranged brain
- 19:45chemistry Well, we, you know, when I
- 19:49studied some brain chemistry when I was teaching medical ethics
- 19:53and we had to talk about electronic addiction and pornography addiction and so on,
- 19:56and especially when your brain is very young, when it's adolescent, it hasn't
- 20:01stopped baking yet, so to speak. And if you're a male
- 20:05and, you know, so by design you are especially susceptible to
- 20:10visual imagery, God help you. You got to be really
- 20:13careful what you see. But the neurologist would say that nerves that, uh,
- 20:18fire together, wire together. So when you habituate
- 20:22yourself towards something, you really create grooves
- 20:26in your nervous system to make the repeated action easier.
- 20:30And if you get addicted to the illusion and stimulation of pornography,
- 20:36you've messed up your brain in a way— in a manner that's going to take
- 20:40a while for it to recover. So she's
- 20:44very upset Vashti, the main character, at the very
- 20:47thought of stepping outside of her cell, and she collapses
- 20:52on her bed. Listen to this. Immediately,
- 20:55an enormous apparatus fell onto her out of the ceiling.
- 20:59A thermometer was automatically laid upon her heart.
- 21:03She lay powerless. Cool pads soothed
- 21:07her forehead. She drank the medicine that the
- 21:11doctor projected into her mouth, and the machinery retired into
- 21:14the ceiling. Pow. And that was
- 21:18it. So she is constantly being monitored,
- 21:22she's constantly being observed, and they
- 21:26are anticipating her needs. Now I want
- 21:30to do a little bit of a further reflection, and,
- 21:33um, because now you, you can get
- 21:36AI boyfriends and girlfriends. And I remember
- 21:41reading a story in Japan where this guy had I
- 21:44guess kind of an AI girlfriend. It looked like an anime figure
- 21:49and a lava lamp. Remember the lava lamps from the '70s? Or you
- 21:53can look them up. They're retro. I think they're cool again now. And what
- 21:57was interesting was that the company was discontinuing the line. It wasn't going
- 22:01to support it with patches and upgrades. And so eventually his AI
- 22:05girlfriend in the lava lamp who would turn on lights for him and send
- 22:09him gifts for his birthday on Amazon, etc., because it was all computer-based,
- 22:14she was going to die. His constant companion,
- 22:19his artificial companion, his AI companion of several years, visible in
- 22:23a lava lamp, who had a voice and would send him messages, etc., and Christmas
- 22:27presents, wasn't going to be supported anymore. It was going to be like—
- 22:31it was going to go to the graveyard like Windows 10. And he
- 22:36was desolate, but he had no experience
- 22:40of dealing with human beings. And so this is part of the trauma of woman
- 22:44Vashti is to go to see her son Kuno, she has to travel and
- 22:49be around people. And she had read some
- 22:53of the older literature before the time of the Machine,
- 22:57capital N. And she says all the
- 23:00old literature with its praise of nature and
- 23:04its fear of nature rang fake as
- 23:07the prattle of a child. And as she
- 23:11thinks about traveling, Foster writes,
- 23:15her horror of direct experience had returned.
- 23:20Oh, machine, she murmured, caressed her book,
- 23:24the book of the machine, and was comforted.
- 23:29And so her travel is horrified,
- 23:34is horrifying for her, and at one point as she's
- 23:39basically, she's on kind of an airplane. She stumbles, and the
- 23:43stewardess reaches out a hand to steady
- 23:47her. How dare you! she exclaimed. You forget
- 23:51yourself! The woman was confused and apologized for not
- 23:55having let her fall. People never touched
- 24:00one another. The custom had become obsolete
- 24:04owing to the machine. How we have
- 24:07advanced, she said, thanks to the machine. Now,
- 24:11she had 3 children. I— how to say
- 24:15this politely— I don't know how you maintain social
- 24:18distancing and still end
- 24:23up with a conceived child. I don't know if— he
- 24:28didn't talk about that in detail, and my imagination turns away
- 24:31from the prospect. My point is this: that the
- 24:35Machine, capital M, begins to dehumanize
- 24:40people by cutting them off from their bodies and
- 24:43from their fellows. And she is bereft
- 24:48of resource to travel to see her son.
- 24:52What happens if the Machine begins to
- 24:56fail? That's what we'll talk about in the next segment. I'm Jesuit Father
- 25:00Robert McTeague, your host here every day of The Catholic Current.
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- 26:52Here we are, part 7 of our ongoing series called Novel Prophecies.
- 26:56We're making our through a short story by E.M. Forster called The Machine
- 27:01Stops. Remember, this is written in 1909,
- 27:05and I think it first foresees where we are and where we're
- 27:08heading. So Vashti, the main character,
- 27:12reluctantly travels around the world to see her son Kuno.
- 27:17So finally they meet up. She's traumatized by the travel.
- 27:21She arrives at her son's room, which exactly resembled her own.
- 27:25She might well declare that the visit was superfluous.
- 27:28The buttons, the knobs, the reading desk with the Book—
- 27:32it's the Book of the Machine, capital M— the temperature, the atmosphere, the illumination,
- 27:37all were exactly the same. And if Kuno himself,
- 27:42flesh of her flesh, stood close beside her at last,
- 27:46what profit was it in that? She was too well-bred
- 27:50to shake him by the hand.
- 27:53And she wants to know why it is that
- 27:57she had to make this travel to see him. She says, here I am.
- 28:01I've had the most terrible journey and greatly retarded the
- 28:04development of my soul. It is not worth it, Kuno. It is not worth it.
- 28:07My time is too precious. The sunlight almost touched
- 28:11me. Think about what that means. So he's explaining
- 28:15to her about why it is he
- 28:20wants to go outside, why he
- 28:24wants to leave the cell, why he doesn't want to live like everybody
- 28:28else. He says, I want to find a way of my
- 28:32own. A way of your own? she whispered.
- 28:36But that would be wrong. Why?
- 28:39her son asked. The question shocked her beyond measure.
- 28:43And he accuses her, you're beginning to worship The Machine.
- 28:49And, uh, yeah, so he's—
- 28:53they don't know what to say to each other. They have become unintelligible
- 28:57to one another. And she gets angry and says, I worship nothing.
- 29:01I am most advanced. I don't think you're religious, for there's no
- 29:05such thing as religion left. All the fear and superstition
- 29:08that existed once have been destroyed by the
- 29:12Machine. And then Foster explains about
- 29:15how, uh, the cult of the machine
- 29:19removes us from our body. Listen to this. Um,
- 29:23he says, by these days it was a demerit to be
- 29:27muscular. Each infant was examined at birth,
- 29:31and all who promised undue strength were destroyed.
- 29:34Humanitarians may protest, but would have been no true kindness
- 29:38to let an athlete live. He never would have been happy in the state
- 29:43of life to which the machine had him. He would have yearned for
- 29:46trees to climb, rivers to bathe in, meadows and hills
- 29:49against which he might measure his body.
- 29:53Man must be adapted to his surroundings, must he not?
- 29:57So this is just going to make us inhuman
- 30:03because we are separated from the body.
- 30:08And finally he says, no, I want to, I want to go out into the,
- 30:11into the world. I want to see the sunlight. I want to see the stars.
- 30:14I want to breathe real air.
- 30:18And she scolds her son, don't,
- 30:22don't talk of these terrible things. You make me miserable.
- 30:26You're throwing civilization away.
- 30:29And he says, one of the benefits of going outside is
- 30:33that you don't hear the machine. He says to his mother,
- 30:37the machine hums. Did you know that? Its hum penetrates
- 30:42our blood and may even guide our thoughts. Who knows?
- 30:45And she doesn't know what to do. She begins
- 30:49to cry because she
- 30:54knows that they have become unintelligible to
- 30:58each other, and he admits, we are 2 different mothers,
- 31:03and she says, look, the machine gives you everything. It gives you all the music
- 31:07that you want when you want it. It gives you all the content
- 31:12They call it lectures in the book, uh,
- 31:15whenever you want it. What more could you want? And she
- 31:19says to him, can you not see? Can that all you
- 31:23lecturers, you influencers, uh, see that it
- 31:27is we that are dying and that down here the only thing that
- 31:31really lives is the machine? We created the machine
- 31:34to do our will, but we cannot make it do our will
- 31:37now. It has robbed us of the sense
- 31:41of space and the sense of touch. It has blurred every human
- 31:45relation and narrowed down love to a carnal act. It has
- 31:49paralyzed our bodies and our wills, and now it
- 31:53compels us to worship it. The machine develops,
- 31:58the machine proceeds, but not to our
- 32:02goal. We only exist as the blood corpuscles that course
- 32:06through its arteries, and if it could work without us, it would
- 32:09let us die. Is it too much
- 32:13to say that that's where we're heading
- 32:18to now? There are— I've
- 32:23read reports of people with suicidal ideation when
- 32:27ChatGPT goes down because that's, that's their
- 32:31friend. That's the one who listens.
- 32:37And they go back and forth,
- 32:40and finally she leaves. She gladly, gladly goes
- 32:44back to her cell, and he predicts
- 32:48that eventually the machine would begin to break down,
- 32:52and no one can imagine life without the machine.
- 32:56And then at the bottom of the page, there's a paragraph that's
- 32:59one sentence long. Foster writes, The troubles began
- 33:03quietly, long before she
- 33:06was conscious of them. Reminds me of something
- 33:10Hemingway wrote, you know, uh, how did you go broke? And he said, very,
- 33:14very slowly, and then all at once. So the machine breaks
- 33:19down, and, uh, so people begin to
- 33:23complain because there's the committee of the mending apparatus
- 33:28And finally, the Committee of the Mending Apparatus admits that the
- 33:32Mending Apparatus itself needs to be fixed, but don't
- 33:35worry, because complaints about the Mending Apparatus can
- 33:40be sent to the Central Committee, where they will be reviewed in turn.
- 33:44So she sends off her complaint, and Foster writes,
- 33:48Obscurely worried, she resumed her
- 33:52life. And what that reminds me of, it's a novel we're not going to read
- 33:55in this series, but I do recommend, called Alas, Babylon.
- 33:59Set in Southwest Florida in the 1950s, and the Cold War
- 34:02is really heating up. And it's about a community that survives
- 34:06after a nuclear exchange between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. And there's
- 34:10Mrs. McGillicuddy, and she's doing her breakfast dishes
- 34:13and looking out the kitchen window. And at the far rim of her,
- 34:17of her horizon, she sees a mushroom cloud, and she says
- 34:21to herself, oh, that can't be good. I suppose
- 34:25I should pick up a few extra groceries tomorrow morning.
- 34:29I wonder where I left my checkbook. And then she goes back
- 34:33to washing the dishes because the normalcy bias
- 34:38is so profound that even when
- 34:41you see a mushroom cloud on the horizon, it doesn't register that the party's
- 34:45over. So eventually, even the mending
- 34:49apparatus isn't working properly. The committee for
- 34:53the mending apparatus isn't working properly. The central committee isn't receiving complaints.
- 34:58And she laments, there never was such an
- 35:02unfortunate woman as myself. I can never be sure
- 35:06of my music now. It gets worse and worse each time I summon it.
- 35:10Time passed, and they resented the defects no longer.
- 35:14The defects had not been remedied, but the human tissues in that
- 35:18latter day had become so subservient that they readily
- 35:22adapted themselves to every caprice of the machine.
- 35:27So they just keep resigning themselves to,
- 35:30to their fate. And finally, here come the
- 35:34conspiracy theorists or the conspiracy realists. Someone,
- 35:38uh, uh, is meddling with the machine.
- 35:42Someone is trying to make himself king, to reintroduce the personal element
- 35:47Punish that man with homelessness! To the rescue! Avenge the
- 35:51machine! Avenge the machine! War!
- 35:54Kill the man who tampered with the machine!
- 35:58But the Committee of the Mending Apparatus now came forward and allayed
- 36:03the panic with well-chosen words. It confessed that the Mending
- 36:07Apparatus was itself in need of repair.
- 36:12And then finally the machine breaks down, and what is
- 36:16written here is heartbreaking. Then she broke
- 36:20down, for with the cessation of activity came
- 36:24an unexpected terror: silence.
- 36:29She had never known silence, and the coming of it nearly killed her.
- 36:33It did kill many thousands of people outright.
- 36:37Ever since her birth, she had been surrounded by the steady
- 36:41hum of It was to the ear what artificial air
- 36:45was to the lungs, and agonizing pains
- 36:48shot across her head, and scarcely knowing what she did,
- 36:51she stumbled forward and pressed the unfamiliar
- 36:55button, the one that opened the door of her
- 36:59cell. And then she sees other people outside.
- 37:04People at any time repelled her, Forster wrote. And these were
- 37:09nightmares from her worst dreams.
- 37:13I won't talk about how the story ends because, you know,
- 37:15spoiler, etc. But is he wrong?
- 37:20Is it so far-fetched?
- 37:23Aren't we umbilically attached to the
- 37:27machine? And look, I am surrounded by miles of
- 37:31cables. I've got Bluetooth everything out the wazoo.
- 37:35I get deliveries from Amazon. I don't do DoorDash,
- 37:39but I get deliveries from Amazon. I can't
- 37:43do work and pay the bills unless I connect to the internet.
- 37:46But I hope, I really hope,
- 37:50that we also do something to maintain
- 37:54a genuinely human connection.
- 37:59You know, I have connections around the world, many continents,
- 38:03and I'm grateful. For that. But this Saturday, pray for
- 38:07me. It will be my birthday, the Feast of the Beheading of Saint John
- 38:11the Baptist. A great day to come into the world, I should think.
- 38:15And, um, I'll get well wishes from people from Europe
- 38:20and Asia and so on, but some people will actually come
- 38:24to see me and we'll celebrate in person
- 38:29and we'll shake hands and hug and pat each other on the back.
- 38:32And we'll have good food and drink, and we'll tell stories,
- 38:36and we'll pray, and we'll laugh.
- 38:41All those things that the machine can't
- 38:45do for us despite its best
- 38:49efforts. So, all right, we got a minute left in this segment. How am I
- 38:53going to wrap this up? Touch grass, as the
- 38:57Zoomers would say. Talk to people in
- 39:00person. Hold real things in
- 39:05your hand. Somehow find a way to listen to
- 39:09live music. The Word was made
- 39:13flesh and dwelt among us. Because of the Incarnation,
- 39:16the human body and human senses have an identity, destiny, and dignity
- 39:21that the machine can never offer,
- 39:25but it can obscure that dignity.
- 39:28It can make us forget our identity and
- 39:32our destiny, and I don't want that to happen.
- 39:37And friends, precisely because we, uh, we've gotten some
- 39:41very good feedback on Novel Prophecies, we're going to continue next
- 39:44week. We're going to have part 8 of our Novel Prophecies series,
- 39:48trying to read them roughly in chronological Order. I'm going to discuss
- 39:52with you the novel It Can't Happen Here,
- 39:55written by Sinclair Lewis, published in 1935.
- 39:59You want to stay with us for the rest of the hour? Coming up next,
- 40:02Week in Readiness, reviewing the headlines of the week in light of the upcoming Sunday
- 40:05scriptures so we all prayed up for Sunday Mass.
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- 41:20Praise be Jesus Christ. This is Father Robert McTighe of the Society of Jesus,
- 41:23your daily host for The Catholic Current, where we bring Christ to the world and
- 41:27the world to Christ. You're listening to us from the Station of the Cross studios,
- 41:30your local radio station, the iCatholic radio mobile app. We proclaim
- 41:33the fullness of truth with clarity and charity. Here it is
- 41:37on a Friday, the last segment, Week in Readiness. You and me, uh,
- 41:40we're taking a look at the headlines of the week in light of the upcoming
- 41:43Sunday scripture, so be all prayed up for Sunday Mass. You should be aware
- 41:47of the fact that I'm recording this on not Friday, so if
- 41:50there's a big story that I didn't cover, it's because it, it didn't happen yet.
- 41:55But let me tell you about some of the things that I'm following. You know,
- 41:59we had talked about The Cult of the Machine
- 42:02with this story by Anne Forster. So a very sad story the other
- 42:06day in India. A teenage boy wants a new
- 42:10iPhone. His parents say no, and he decides
- 42:15he cannot go on living, so he runs to throw himself off a cliff.
- 42:18The father tries to stop him. He gets dragged off with his son,
- 42:22and then the wife and mother sees this and she throws herself
- 42:25off the cliff as well. So yeah, it really can get that bad.
- 42:29Uh, it really can't. We, we are fostering an addiction because
- 42:33we're basically rewiring our brains to become, uh,
- 42:37dopamine addicts, and, and that is of course a very bad thing. Uh,
- 42:41supposedly the Straits of Hormuz are going to be open again because
- 42:44the U.S. Navy has removed the Iranian mines in the
- 42:48sea. I hope that's true. I thought that removing mines at
- 42:51sea took longer than that. What do I know? My fear is
- 42:56that the world is going to learn the hard way how much
- 43:00of life on this planet depends on what flows
- 43:03through the Strait of Hormuz. And if you think the phrase the machine stops
- 43:08is terrifying, wait to see what happens if the Strait of Hormuz isn't
- 43:12reliably open sometime soon. So, uh,
- 43:16that is, uh, that is very much, uh, on my mind.
- 43:19Uh, Catholic churches continue to be vandalized. The Eucharist
- 43:23continues to be desecrated, and Catholic
- 43:28institutions of higher education celebrate being certified as Laudato
- 43:32Si' communities. So there is that.
- 43:35Following a case in California,
- 43:39there is a little town called Bell, California, and for
- 43:43over— gosh, over 100 years,
- 43:46there is a carved cross in
- 43:50the town square, and he wants it removed because
- 43:54reasons. And our friends
- 43:58of the Thomas More Society are fighting back against that.
- 44:01So good for you. To be a
- 44:05welcoming community doesn't mean that
- 44:09we can allow Christianity to be erased. I'm sure you've
- 44:13been following the very tragic and ugly, ugly story Lindsay
- 44:17Clancy, who murdered her 3 children.
- 44:21It's a complicated story. There's some discussion of was
- 44:24there postpartum depression. I'm not going to get into the weeds
- 44:28of that because I haven't followed the story closely. What I find alarming are
- 44:33the women who are uncritically celebrating
- 44:37and lionizing Lindsay Clancy after she
- 44:41had murdered her children. I I don't know what to
- 44:45say to that except to say that it's not gonna stop anytime
- 44:49soon. There is another story I just
- 44:53looked at. I lost the link. I'll summarize it for you. A woman explained
- 44:57that she aborted her child because she loved the
- 45:00child so much, because, you know,
- 45:04this world and all. I,
- 45:08I don't know what to say to that. I just don't know
- 45:12what to say to that. And oh, we were going to talk about some good
- 45:15news. I had some good news here. Where is it?
- 45:18There is a, uh,
- 45:22a high school that requires as part of its initiation
- 45:27ritual for incoming freshmen, you've got to kiss your mother goodbye before you go to
- 45:31school. And, and moms really like that. So, okay, so something positive
- 45:34that way. I remember growing up I mean, all my life, I can't
- 45:38remember a time I didn't do it, but it was just taken for granted that
- 45:42whenever I left the house, I'd give mom a kiss and tell her I was
- 45:45going, and whenever I came back, I'd give mom a kiss and tell her I
- 45:49was back. And I, I don't think I ever entered or left the house
- 45:52without doing that, which is something that the machine
- 45:57can't provide for. With that in mind,
- 46:00let's take a look at the scriptures. If you're following the Novus Ordo calendar of
- 46:03the Pauline Rite, we're looking at the 22nd Sunday in Ordinary
- 46:07time, Lectionary 124. We've got Jeremiah 20.
- 46:12The prophet Jeremiah is being duped because his— this being
- 46:15a prophet thing didn't turn out as well as,
- 46:18as he, uh, he would have liked. But let's go to
- 46:23the Gospel, Matthew 16, because this is hard-hitting.
- 46:26Uh, our Lord is predicting the miserable death he's
- 46:30going to suffer, and Peter says, no, no, no, we don't— we
- 46:34don't— no, we don't want this for you. And our Lord
- 46:38rebukes Peter as Satan, as tempter.
- 46:42Get behind me, you're an obstacle to me. You're not thinking as God does,
- 46:45but as human beings do. So how does God think,
- 46:50and how does God think about human life?
- 46:54And our Lord says, whoever wishes to come after me must
- 46:58deny himself, take up his cross, and follow
- 47:01me. Notice what he did not say.
- 47:05Whoever wishes to come after me must
- 47:09speak his truth.
- 47:12Didn't say that. He said, take up your
- 47:16cross and follow me. Whoever wishes to save his
- 47:20life will lose it. Whoever loses his life for
- 47:24my sake will find it. It really is a choice.
- 47:27Ultimately to stand before God and say either,
- 47:32my will be done, or thy will
- 47:36be done. And in either case, God will
- 47:40say yes. Think about what that means.
- 47:44We can't save ourselves. God can save us, and he chooses to save
- 47:49us with us rather than without us. And if we
- 47:52finally do say My will be
- 47:56done. I don't want what you have to offer.
- 48:02God will allow us to live with the eternal consequences of
- 48:06that. It is a frightful thing having that much freedom,
- 48:10that much power over our lives and our eternity.
- 48:15But if we conform our lives to Christ,
- 48:19which means living the life of sacrificial love,
- 48:23Worshipping God rightly and loving neighbor for
- 48:28the love of God, that is the path to truth,
- 48:31beauty, goodness, freedom, and everlasting joy.
- 48:36And it is the only way to
- 48:40truth, beauty, goodness, freedom, and everlasting joy. There is
- 48:45no other. So the dress rehearsal for the
- 48:49happiness of heaven is to offer God our very best
- 48:53in worship, our very best, and also
- 48:58to love neighbor for the love of God. Saint Ignatius Loyola
- 49:02said the hallmark of spiritual maturity is when we no longer
- 49:06love a creature in its own right but only in relation to its Creator
- 49:10and Lord. So true love says, because of who God is
- 49:14and because of who you are to God, I choose
- 49:19to love and serve you, and I would rather never see
- 49:23you again than hurt you, dishonor you,
- 49:27or worst of all, sin with you.
- 49:31That is real love. That is love
- 49:35marked and sustained and
- 49:40validated and valorized by the cross of Christ.
- 49:44We either live and die accordingly or we don't, and eternal
- 49:49consequences will follow.
- 49:52Please, friend, while there's still time, go to confession,
- 49:56conform yourself to Christ, and help others to do the
- 50:00same. May God's holy name be praised now and forever. I'm Jesuit
- 50:04Father Robert McTeague, your host every day of The Catholic Current. Join us on Monday,
- 50:07Monday for another episode of The Catholic Current. Great guest, great topic,
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- 50:45Go in peace, and please do pray for me, for I am a sinner.