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Haunting Words of Teen’s Alleged Killer Caught on Camera · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine you are sitting at a table, right? And dumped
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  Speaker 1: out right in front of you is this massive jigsaw puzzle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love a good puzzle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but here is the catch with this one. Half
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  Speaker 1: of the pieces are completely invisible.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, invisible?
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  Speaker 1: Literally invisible. I mean, you can feel the physical edges
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  Speaker 1: and you know they are taking up space on the table,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't actually see the picture printed on them.
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  Speaker 1: Not until you shine a very specific, highly advanced technological
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  Speaker 1: light on them.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I see where you're going with this.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Only then do the pieces light up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: showing you exactly how they fit together to form the
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  Speaker 1: actual picture.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great analogy, actually, because in modern investigations, we
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  Speaker 2: rely on that light, that forensic and digital technology.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It reveals what the human eye simply cannot process at
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  Speaker 2: a crime scene. It really is the only way to
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  Speaker 2: transform invisible void. into a tangible sequence of events.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And today we are pointing that technological light at
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  Speaker 1: a deeply tragic and honestly remarkably complex case out of
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  Speaker 1: Morgan Hill, California.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough one.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. It's the murder of an 18-year-old young
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  Speaker 1: woman named Marissa Doppley. But for you listening, this deep
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  Speaker 1: dive isn't just about, you know, walking through a timeline
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  Speaker 1: of a crime.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're going much deeper than that.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to unpack a real-time missing person investigation
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  Speaker 1: that that rapidly escalated into a full-blown international manhunt.
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  Speaker 2: And we're drawing on some incredible source material today.
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  Speaker 1: We are. We're primarily relying on the factual accounts and
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  Speaker 1: the really deep expert insights from a recent interview with
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement veteran Kyle Sjoberg.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from his appearance on The Sidebar Show.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And by digging into those sources... We are going
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  Speaker 1: to explore a massive systemic point of friction.
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  Speaker 2: It's basically a collision, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: A total collision between the lightning fast speed of digital
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  Speaker 1: evidence and the deliberately, almost agonizingly slow pace of the
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  Speaker 1: American legal system.
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  Speaker 2: And tragically, the profound grief of a family who feels
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  Speaker 2: like that very system just entirely abandoned them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because it creates this devastating bottleneck.
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  Speaker 2: It does. You have the rapid fire data of the
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  Speaker 2: modern digital world slamming headfirst into, well, constitutional protections.
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  Speaker 1: Protections that were designed centuries ago.
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  Speaker 2: Right. They were designed to move slowly on purpose. And
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  Speaker 2: caught directly in the center of that impact crater is
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  Speaker 2: a grieving family demanding answers.
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  Speaker 1: Answers that the system is, legally speaking, prohibited from giving
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  Speaker 1: them immediately.
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  Speaker 2: It's just heart-wrenching.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And the timeline of this case forces
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  Speaker 1: us to look at how that bottleneck forms, starting literally
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  Speaker 1: from minute one. So let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: So Marissa Doppley was 18 years old. She'd recently graduated
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  Speaker 1: from high school. And she was last seen on a Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: June 29th.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Her family realized she was gone and reported her missing
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  Speaker 1: the very next day, Sunday, June 30th.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a remarkably fast response time from the family.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: But tragically, just two days after that report, her body
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  Speaker 1: was found. And it wasn't the police who found her.
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  Speaker 2: Right. This is a crucial detail.
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  Speaker 1: It was her own family and friends, her own loved ones,
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  Speaker 1: who were out organizing a search. They found her body
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  Speaker 1: near a bridge at Anderson Lake in Morgan Hill.
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  Speaker 2: Just to pause there. To be the family organizing that
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  Speaker 2: search and to be the ones to make that physical discovery,
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  Speaker 2: it's an immeasurable trauma.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even fathom it.
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  Speaker 2: But looking at the timeline of that initial missing persons
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  Speaker 2: report brings up, one of the most pervasive and dangerous
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  Speaker 2: procedural myths in all of pop culture.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you mean the mandatory waiting period.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Television has entirely conditioned us to believe there's
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  Speaker 2: a ticking clock before police actually care.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you always see that scene, right? A frantic parent
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  Speaker 1: runs into a police precinct and some dismissive desk sergeant says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we can't do anything until they've been missing
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  Speaker 1: for 24 hours.
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  Speaker 2: For 48 hours. Yeah, that fictional trope is so deeply
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  Speaker 2: entrenched in the public consciousness. And the tragic part is
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  Speaker 2: it actually delays real-world families from making life-saving phone calls.
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  Speaker 1: Because they sit at home thinking they aren't allowed to
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  Speaker 1: call yet.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. When in reality, there is absolutely no mandatory waiting
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  Speaker 2: period to report someone missing in the United States. None.
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  Speaker 1: None.
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  Speaker 2: None. Especially in California, where this occurred. Law enforcement there
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  Speaker 2: is statutorily required to take a missing person report immediately
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  Speaker 2: upon request.
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  Speaker 1: So the second that call comes in, what actually happens?
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  Speaker 2: The primary action is entering the individual into the Missing
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  Speaker 2: and Unidentified Persons System, or MUPS. MUPS. All right. It's
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  Speaker 2: an interconnected national database. The objective is to cast a
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  Speaker 2: nationwide net instantly.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not just local cops looking for her.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. If that person is pulled over for, say, a
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  Speaker 2: broken taillight three states away, or they interact with Border Patrol...
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  Speaker 2: Their name flags as a missing person in real time.
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  Speaker 1: OK, but let me challenge the mechanics of that immediate
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  Speaker 1: response for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Because adults in the United States have the legal right
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  Speaker 1: to just walk away, right?
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  Speaker 2: They absolutely do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I could pack a bag right now and
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  Speaker 1: never speak to my family again. So if a patrol
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  Speaker 1: officer in a busy city gets a call every time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a husband goes to a motel to cool
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  Speaker 1: off after an argument.
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  Speaker 2: Right, or a teenager turns their phone on airplane mode
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  Speaker 2: to ignore their parents.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. They can't scramble a police helicopter for every single
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  Speaker 1: one of those calls.
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  Speaker 2: No, they'd bankrupt the city in a day.
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  Speaker 1: So there has to be some sort of triage algorithm, right,
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  Speaker 1: to separate the routine disappearances from the genuinely critical threats.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and that triage process is one of the most
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  Speaker 2: difficult needle-threading exercises in all of law enforcement. Patrol officers
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  Speaker 2: have to look for behavioral and statistical anomalies.
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  Speaker 1: Anomalies that elevate it from a standard report to a
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  Speaker 1: critical crisis.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. And the very first filter they use is age. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So how does that work?
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  Speaker 2: Well, a missing 8-year-old, for example, bypasses all triage. That
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  Speaker 2: goes straight to an all-hands-on-deck emergency immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Because an 8-year-old can't survive on their own? Right.
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  Speaker 2: But an 18-year-old? Yeah. That is a developmental gray area.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Legally, they are an adult with the right to disappear.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But developmentally and socially, they remain highly vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: So the police are looking for a break in the pattern.
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  Speaker 1: Like if they have an established history of running away,
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  Speaker 1: that probably lowers the threat matrix, right?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Whereas a sudden, inexplicable deviation from their normal behavior,
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  Speaker 2: that spikes the threat matrix instantly.
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  Speaker 1: The behavioral baseline.
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  Speaker 2: The behavioral baseline is everything. Look at this case. You
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  Speaker 2: have an 18-year-old who just graduated high school. She's functioning normally.
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  Speaker 2: She has incredibly strong familial ties. Right. When someone like
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  Speaker 2: that suddenly falls completely off the grid and breaks all
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  Speaker 2: communication habits, that triggers a massive statistical anomaly.
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  Speaker 1: Because 18-year-olds don't just put down their phones.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. In a hyper-connected demographic, going entirely dark without warning
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  Speaker 2: tells an investigator they are likely not dealing with a
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  Speaker 2: voluntary runaway.
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  Speaker 1: They're looking at an involuntary separation.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And that brings us to the last piece of
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  Speaker 2: communication in this case. which highlights exactly why investigators get
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  Speaker 2: so suspicious so quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the text message. So the last known contact from
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  Speaker 1: Marissa was a text sent to her family on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: and it stated she was going to stay overnight with
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  Speaker 1: a friend. So Sunday morning arrives, and she doesn't come home. Now,
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  Speaker 1: to a family, you know, reading that text in the moment,
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  Speaker 1: it might seem like a comforting piece of the timeline, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she's just at a friend's house.
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  Speaker 2: But to a detective, that text is radioactive.
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  Speaker 1: Radioactive. Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because it forces investigators to stop looking at the cell
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  Speaker 2: phone as a communication device and start looking at it
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  Speaker 2: as a potential tool of misdirection.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. When an 18-year-old goes missing, a text message explaining
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  Speaker 2: their absence is practically a signature of a panicked offender.
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  Speaker 1: You mean trying to manufacture a timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The perpetrator uses the victim's device to create a
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  Speaker 2: false narrative. They're buying themselves an artificial waiting period so
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  Speaker 2: they can dispose of evidence or flee.
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  Speaker 1: But the irony there is incredible, right? Because by sending
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  Speaker 1: that fake text, the perpetrator thinks they're creating an alibi,
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  Speaker 1: but they are actually activating a tracking beacon.
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  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of modern digital forensics. The phone isn't
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  Speaker 2: just sending SMS data. It's constantly talking to the physical
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure around it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's shaking hands with the cell towers.
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  Speaker 2: The underlying physics of that communication is what breaks these
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  Speaker 2: cases open. I mean, even if you turn off your
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  Speaker 2: location services, your phone is constantly measuring signal strength.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and it's measuring the nanosecond time delays between multiple
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  Speaker 1: cell towers just to maintain a connection, right?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. We are talking about trilateration.
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  Speaker 1: Trilateration, not triangulation, right? There's a difference.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, huge difference. It's not just the phone pinging one
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  Speaker 2: tower and saying, hey, I'm somewhere within a 10-mile radius.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: The network uses what's called time difference of arrival.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for us.
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  Speaker 2: So if the signal hits tower A a fraction of
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  Speaker 2: a millisecond before it hits tower B, The network can
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  Speaker 2: calculate the exact physical radius of the device.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So it's pure math.
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  Speaker 2: Pure math. So if the police can pull the historical
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  Speaker 2: cell site data for both Marissa's phone and a suspect's phone,
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  Speaker 2: they aren't just looking at who texted whom.
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  Speaker 1: They are looking to see if those two digital beacons merged.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. They're looking for a merged physical path leading directly
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  Speaker 2: to Anderson Lake. It provides an undeniable geometric map of
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  Speaker 2: their movements.
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  Speaker 1: Because today's youth demographic rarely separates from their devices. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even go to the kitchen without my phone.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So pulling the overlay of those two data sets,
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  Speaker 2: the victim's routing and the prime suspect's routing, that is
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  Speaker 2: the foundational block of a modern digital prosecution.
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  Speaker 1: And that physical location data inevitably points to the physical
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  Speaker 1: evidence left behind, right? Which brings us to the suspect.
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  Speaker 1: The investigation rapidly focused on a 20-year-old man named Martin Mendoza. Jr.,
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  Speaker 1: who was Marissa's ex-boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Ex-boyfriend is almost always the first place detectives look.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So police located Marissa's Mustang. It was abandoned near
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  Speaker 1: where she went missing, just a few miles from the lake.
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  Speaker 1: But the most visceral piece of evidence came from a
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  Speaker 1: ring camera on trail drive. It captured an argument between
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  Speaker 1: Marissa and Mendoza on June 29th, literally the day she vanished.
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  Speaker 2: And the audio from that camera is crucial.
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  Speaker 1: It is incredibly disturbing. You can hear Mendoza aggressively questioning her.
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  Speaker 1: He says, quote, why would you do that to me
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  Speaker 1: if you love me? Why would you text your ex?
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  Speaker 2: And her response?
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  Speaker 1: Marissa simply replies, I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Analyzing the syntax of that exchange reveals classic indicators
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  Speaker 2: of an escalating intimate partner threat.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Just from those few words?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. He is engaging in what we call grievance collection.
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  Speaker 1: Grievance collection. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you do that to me? He is framing
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  Speaker 2: a perceived slight, this alleged text message, as a direct
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  Speaker 2: attack on his ego. Right. He's reframing their past relationship
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  Speaker 2: to justify his current anger. The emotion of jealousy is
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  Speaker 2: completely overriding the rational centers of his brain.
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  Speaker 1: It's possession disguised as affection. And the context provided by
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  Speaker 1: Marissa's friend, Jason Gutierrez, elevates this from just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a jealous argument on a porch to a documented premeditated threat.
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  Speaker 2: What did the friend say?
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  Speaker 1: Gutierrez told reporters that Marissa had explicitly warned them about Mendoza.
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  Speaker 1: She said, and I'm quoting directly from the source material here,
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  Speaker 1: Marissa has told me firsthand. That he would kill her,
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  Speaker 1: that he would not stop, that he's obsessed with her,
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  Speaker 1: that he's crazy, and that he's willing to go to
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  Speaker 1: that extent.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, when you combine the behavioral profiling of the
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  Speaker 2: Ring camera audio with explicit prior threats of lethal violence,
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  Speaker 2: the suspect pool shrinks immediately to an audience of one.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: When a victim is only 18, their social circle and
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  Speaker 2: their physical footprint are usually highly concentrated.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they don't typically have complex financial enemies
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  Speaker 1: or like hidden high stakes rivalries.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. They aren't living these double lives. This statistical probability
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  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly points to the most volatile, intimate connection in their life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which was Mendoza. And there is another detail from
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  Speaker 1: that crucial window of time. On the day Marissa was
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  Speaker 1: reported missing, Mendoza was reportedly seen leaving a house carrying
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  Speaker 1: a plastic bag.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, a plastic bag. OK, that's huge. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, knowing how detectives work, seeing a suspect carrying an
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  Speaker 1: unknown object isn't just about, like, finding the object later.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all. It's an interrogation trap.
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  Speaker 1: An interrogation trap. Break that down.
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  Speaker 2: So a detective will sit him down in the box
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  Speaker 2: and ask casually, hey, what were you carrying out of
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  Speaker 2: the house that morning?
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  Speaker 1: They don't even care about the bag, do they?
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  Speaker 2: Not initially. They care about the lie he tells to
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  Speaker 2: conceal it. It is a deliberate tactic to increase the
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  Speaker 2: cognitive load on a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It's essentially... a perjury trap inside the interrogation room. If
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  Speaker 2: he lies and says he wasn't carrying anything, he has
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  Speaker 2: locked himself into a verifiable falsehood before he even realizes
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  Speaker 2: he's cornered.
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  Speaker 1: Because they already have the witness statement about the bag.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So when investigators eventually reveal that witness statement or footage,
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  Speaker 2: the suspect's carefully constructed narrative shatters.
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  Speaker 1: And then what?
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  Speaker 2: They either have to compound the lie, which takes massive
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  Speaker 2: mental effort and usually leads to more mistakes, Or the
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  Speaker 2: pressure breaks them entirely and they confess.
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  Speaker 1: It's brilliant. But, and this is the crazy part, the
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  Speaker 1: Morgan Hill police never got the chance to spring that trap.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't?
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  Speaker 1: No. And this is the part of the deep dive
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  Speaker 1: that will make anyone outside the legal profession want to scream.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Marissa's sister actually tracked Mendoza down. She found him herself
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  Speaker 1: and fed his exact location to the police.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Good for her. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So officers went to that location. They spoke with him.
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  Speaker 1: The sources confirm he was highly uncooperative and flatly refused
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  Speaker 1: to provide a statement.
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  Speaker 2: Which is his right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But then the police let him walk away.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And shortly after that interaction, Mendoza fled south to Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: I can only imagine the public outrage.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as a civilian looking at this, if you
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  Speaker 1: have the ring camera footage, the documented death threats, the
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  Speaker 1: abandoned car, and a suspect who refuses to speak while
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  Speaker 1: the girl is missing, how does a detective... ethically, stomach,
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  Speaker 1: letting that guy walk out the door and cross an
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  Speaker 1: international border.
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  Speaker 2: It's maddening. The visceral frustration is entirely justified. But, and
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  Speaker 2: this is a massive but, it crashes directly into the
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  Speaker 2: uncompromising machinery of constitutional law.
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  Speaker 1: The law getting in the way of justice.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the law protecting rights. Detectives have to separate what
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  Speaker 2: they know in their gut from what they can empirically
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  Speaker 2: prove in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I understand the Fifth Amendment. He has the right
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  Speaker 1: to remain silent, and you can't arrest a guy just
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  Speaker 1: for being a jerk to the police.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But surely the totality of the circumstances, you know, the threats,
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  Speaker 1: the video, the missing girl, surely that is enough for
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  Speaker 1: probable cause to at least hold him.
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  Speaker 2: Holding him triggers a mechanism far more dangerous to the
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  Speaker 2: prosecution than the Fifth Amendment.
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  Speaker 1: More dangerous how?
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  Speaker 2: It triggers the Sixth Amendment. The speedy trial clause.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, the legal hourglass.
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  Speaker 2: That is the perfect way to visualize it. The moment
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement places handcuffs on a suspect for homicide, they
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  Speaker 2: flip an hourglass over the district attorney's desk.
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  Speaker 1: The clock starts ticking immediately.
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  Speaker 2: In California, the law dictates a very strict window. It's
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  Speaker 2: typically 48 hours to file formal charges and arraign the suspect.
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  Speaker 2: And the sand in that hourglass represents undeniable forensic evidence.
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  Speaker 1: So if they arrest Mendoza purely on the circumstantial suspicion
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  Speaker 1: of the ring camera and the threats, the sand starts pouring.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But at that specific moment, look at what they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have. They didn't have her body yet.
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  Speaker 1: True.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't have the cell phone trilateration data back from
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  Speaker 2: the telecommunications companies because that takes warrants and time. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And they obviously didn't have an autopsy report.
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  Speaker 1: So the sand runs out.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. If the district attorney is forced to take
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: a half-finished, purely circumstantial case to court, Just because the
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: speedy trial clock mandates it, a competent defense attorney will
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: dismantle it effortlessly.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Because they'll just point to the lack of physical ties.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yes. They will point to the lack of forensic ties
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: between the suspect and the victim's ultimate fate. And a
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: jury who is legally bound by the standard of beyond
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: a reasonable doubt will likely acquit him.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And because of double jeopardy, he walks out of the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: courtroom immune. He could write a book confessing to the
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: crime a year later and the state could never touch
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: him for it again.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Precisely. An early, emotionally driven arrest based on a detective's
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: gut feeling is honestly the greatest gift you can hand
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: a guilty person. Wow.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that. So the legal
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: reality dictates that Mendoza, at the time officers spoke to him,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: was classified merely as a person of interest. Yes.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Not an official suspect yet. To make an arrest, the
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: district attorney requires empirical proof that withstands adversarial scrutiny.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: The system is deliberately designed to protect individuals from arbitrary
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: state detention. But the agonizing byproduct of that protection is
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: that a suspect can use their freedom to flee.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: And that mechanical wall of legal procedure creates a devastating
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: reality on the ground because Mendoza did flee.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: He took full advantage of the bottleneck.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: He did. Following the horrific discovery of Marissa's body by
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: her own family, a massive multi-agency manhunt mobilized. Morgan Hill
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: police found themselves coordinating with 15 different law enforcement agencies.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: 15? That's a massive operation.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: We are talking about 30 investigators. This included Homeland Security,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the FBI, Border Patrol, and the U.S.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Marshals. The logistical complexity of that kind of mobilization is staggering.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I bet. I mean, a local department like Morgan Hill...
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: They do excellent municipal police work, but they simply lack
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the jurisdictional authority, the budget, and the federal treaties required
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: to hunt a fugitive across international lines.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So they have to execute what's called a shoulder tap.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Right. They legally hand over the fugitive apprehension mandate to
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: federal agencies.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Because the U.S. Marshals and the FBI have the Title
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: 18 jurisdictions to operate on a national and international scale.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They tap into databases like NCIC, the National Crime
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Information Center. to flag the suspect at literally every port
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: of entry.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So the interoperability between local intelligence and federal enforcement is
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: what eventually closes the net.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And that net closed in a highly unexpected way. On Sunday,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: July 6, the U.S. Marshals arrested Mendoza. But they didn't
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: kick down a door in some remote Mexican village.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Where did they get him?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: They apprehended him at the U.S.-Mexico border in El Centro, California,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: as he was actively attempting to reenter the United States.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Wait, reenter?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yes. And you have to wonder about the psychology there.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Why would a fugitive who successfully navigated his way out
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of the jurisdiction into a foreign country turn around and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: walk right back into the teeth of the very federal
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: apparatus hunting him for murder?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I know it seems entirely counterintuitive to a rational observer,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: but it aligns perfectly with the statistical realities of fugitive apprehension.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. The general public envisions fugitives, you know, living
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: comfortably off the grid on a beach somewhere. But the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: reality is one of rapid logistical exhaustion.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Because they realize that fleeing to another country without an
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: established criminal infrastructure is essentially a self-imposed prison sentence.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Exactly. If you cross the border without forged documents... a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: massive reserve of liquid cash and a network of safe houses,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you degrade very quickly.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Right. You're isolated.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You are totally isolated. You lack the resources to secure
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: safe shelter or food without drawing attention to yourself.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: So panic sets in.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Panic, hunger, exhaustion. Furthermore, a young offender often drastically underestimates
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the scope of the intelligence network aligned against them.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: They probably assume that after a few days, the heat
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: dies down.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Right. They think the local police have moved on to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: other calls and they can simply slip back across a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: busy port of entry to reconnect with their support system.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: To get more money or help.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. They completely fail to comprehend that a federal tripwire
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: has been laid across every single biometric checkpoint at the border.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: So Mendoza is brought back into custody facing extradition to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Santa Clara County for a murder charge. But for you,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the listener following this case in real time, you are
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: hitting an informational black hole right about now.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: The holdback evidence?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Yes. The sources highlight that the coroner's office has maintained
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: absolute silence on the exact cause of death. And the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: police have refused to issue an official statement regarding motive.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Which is standard.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: But it creates this immense public frustration. It feels like
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the state is hoarding information that the community deserves to know.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I get that. Hmm. But that silence is a highly
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: calculated standard practice strategy in homicide investigations. It's known as
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: holdback evidence.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Holdback evidence. Why is it so crucial?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Because the strategic withholding of specific crime scene details is
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: paramount to protecting the integrity of the future trial.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's explore the mechanics of that information asymmetry. If
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the police go on the evening news and announce exactly
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: how the victim was killed, say... detailing a highly specific
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: leitronaut or an unusual blunt force trauma, they invite two
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: disastrous outcomes.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Right. First, they contaminate the confession pool.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Expand on that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You see it in almost every high profile case. Mentally
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: unwell individuals or people just seeking notoriety will attempt to
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: confess to crimes they did not commit.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Which wastes a ton of police time.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Now, if the granular details of the crime scene
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: are public, Those people can mimic those details perfectly in
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: a statement. But if law enforcement holds that evidence back.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: They can instantly disprove a false confession.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, because the individual will inevitably guess the wrong cause
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: of death or the wrong weapon.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: That makes total sense. And the second reason goes right
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: back to the courtroom defense strategy we talked about earlier.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: If you broadcast the forensic hand you are holding, you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: allow the defense attorney to start building a counter narrative
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: before the trial even begins.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Yes. If they know, for example, that the police found
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: a specific type of soil on the suspect's shoes that
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: matches Anderson Lake.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: The suspect suddenly remembers a fictitious hiking trip they took
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: there two weeks prior.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You just gave them the blueprint for their alibi.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: By keeping them completely in the dark, you force the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: defense to react to the physical evidence in real time
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: during discovery.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Making it exponentially harder to fabricate an alibi that accounts
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: for every hidden variable.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Precisely. The state must maintain that information asymmetry to preserve
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the evidentiary value of whatever they recovered at the scene
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and during the autopsy.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But that strategic silence, that mechanical procedural opacity, it leads
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: us to the most agonizing element of this entire situation.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: The family.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. The collision of the two realities we discussed at
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the top of the show. The trauma of the family
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: versus this systemic defense of the police department.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: It's a painful fracture.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: It really is. And to understand the depth of this fracture,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: we have to look at Marissa's life. She was the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: youngest of eight children.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Eight kids. Wow.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the sources note she was a product of
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the California foster care system before being adopted into a
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: deeply loving and stable home by the Doppley family.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Which just adds another layer of heartbreak to this.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. She was 18, a recent graduate, standing on the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: precipice of her entire adult life after navigating a system
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that fails so many kids.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Her family's grief is absolute. They even requested that the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: public forego GoFundMe donations, asking only for prayers and shared memories.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: That is a profound demonstration of a family prioritizing communal
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: grief and the honoring of her memory over external financial support.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But that profound grief has also calcified into a demand
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: for accountability aimed directly at the Morgan Hill Police Department.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The family released a formal, powerful statement launching a petition
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: for an independent audit of the department's handling of the case.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And what did they allege in that petition?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: They stated, quote, Wow.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: An allegation of systemic bias strikes at the foundational mandate
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: of any police department.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: It really does.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: It is an assertion that the protective apparatus of the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: state was deliberately withheld due to prejudice.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And we must look impartially at the defense provided in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the source material. Law enforcement expert Kyle Schoberg offered a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: staunch counter perspective in his interview.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: What was his defense?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: He vehemently denied that race or systemic bias played any
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: role in the investigative timeline. He argued that detectives, many
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of whom are parents themselves, internalized the disappearance of youth
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: on a deeply personal level.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I can see that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And while acknowledging that mistakes can occur in the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: chaos of any fast-moving investigation, he maintained that the procedural
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: delays were born of constitutional necessity, not intentional negligence or bias.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: He noted that an independent audit would require empirical evidence
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of racially motivated inaction and which he asserted does not
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: exist in the procedural record of this case.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And this is the exact intersection where we must hold
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: two conflicting, painful realities in our minds simultaneously.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Let's look at the family's reality first. From the perspective
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: of the Doppley family, the system failed at every critical juncture.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: They reported their daughter missing, and they were the ones
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: who had to search the brush at Anderson Lake to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: find her body. They tracked down the prime suspect. They
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: fed his coordinates to the police.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: They did the legwork.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly. They knew about the violent threats. They knew about
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the ring camera audio. And then they watched the police
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: have a polite conversation with him before letting him walk
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: free to cross a border.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: To a family engulfed in trauma, that sequence of events
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: does not look like a cautious adherence to the Fifth
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and Sixth Amendments.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It looks like devastating apathy. It looks like a system
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: protecting a killer while ignoring a victim.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: The psychological toll of observing that legal machinery from the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: outside is brutal.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But the reality of the police department is governed by
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: rules that are largely invisible to the public, yet absolute
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: in a court of law.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Their reality is the frustrating, meticulous adherence to the evidentiary
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: standards required by the district attorney. They know that if
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: they succumb to the emotional urgency of the moment and
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: make a premature arrest without the autopsy and the cell.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Tower data, They risk legally absolving the suspect forever.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Their reality requires moving at a glacial pace in
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the opening hours to ensure a conviction years later.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: The friction between these two timelines is exactly where the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: allegations of systemic bias inevitably ignite.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Of course they do.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: When a legal system is opaque by design, utilizing holdback
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: evidence and moving slowly to satisfy the speedy trial clock
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it creates an informational void.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And nature of horror is a vacuum.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Right. And when a family is drowning in unimaginable grief,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: human nature demands that the void be filled with an explanation.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: If the police aren't moving at the speed of my panic,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it must be because they do not care.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: It must be because of systemic bias. Yes.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It is a devastating disconnect where both sides are operating
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: with the exact same goal justice for Marissa... but speaking
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to entirely incompatible languages.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: It serves as a masterclass in the inherent, often painful
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: complexities of the modern justice system.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: We started this deep dive with a single terrifying argument
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: captured on a ring camera. We moved to a highly
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: suspicious text message that forced investigators to use cellular trilateration
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: as a tracking beacon. We navigated the agonizing constraints of
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the legal hourglass and the Fifth Amendment that allowed a
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: suspect to temporarily slip across the border.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: We broke down the statistical reality of fugitive exhaustion that
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: brought him back.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And we arrived at a heartbroken family demanding an audit
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of the very system attempting to build the prosecution.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: A system that requires patience from people who have had
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: their entire world shattered.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Which leaves you, the listener, with a final thought to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: mull over as this deep dive concludes.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: We live in a society where technology has trained us
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to expect instant resolution. You can stream high-definition video of
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a crime occurring on a doorbell camera in real time.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You can conceptually track the invisible handshakes of cell phone towers.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: That digital speed creates the powerful illusion of instant justice.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It really does. But our constitutional framework was designed centuries
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: before the microchip. It was built to be intentionally, frustratingly slow,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: demanding undeniable proof to protect civil liberties and prevent state overreach.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: The question we have to grapple with is this. How
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: do we, as a modern society, reconcile the lightning speed
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: of digital evidence with the necessarily slow, agonizing march of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: due process? Especially when a loved one's life is hanging
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: in the balance and every passing second of procedural delay
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: feels like a fatal betrayal.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: It is a tension that will only grow more profound
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: as technology accelerates and the law remains anchored to the past.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: It is a puzzle where the pieces are visible, but
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the legal glue takes years to dry. Thank you for
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: joining us on this deep dive.