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Detroit's Top Prospects Shine · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of Tiger Territory. Part in
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory, No Work, a Tiger's podcast. I'm Kieren
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  Speaker 1: Stugly with me as always as a man whose own
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  Speaker 1: version of March Madness to traffic. He is Stavin Eggan.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I had no doubt about that. A quick story here
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  Speaker 3: and I was. I was down in the dugout today
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  Speaker 3: And for those who watched our interview with Danielle Bruce,
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  Speaker 3: Jim Leland came down, sat by me, crossed his legs,
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  Speaker 3: pulled out a sig and I was just kind of
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  Speaker 3: I was just kind of sitting there. Still no offer,
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  Speaker 3: still no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be one of those things where you
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  Speaker 1: just got to put it out there, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, like you can't out I don't think it counts.
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  Speaker 3: I think he has to offer it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you just like have one handy and you just
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  Speaker 1: asked for a wife. Maybe maybe that's thing like you
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  Speaker 1: always have one, like it's you know, your nineteen fifties grease.
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  Speaker 1: You're just like in your in your sleeve there. Uh well,
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  Speaker 1: well we are recording this shortly after the Tigers showed out,
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  Speaker 1: and that is the prospects showed out, Tody, you were there,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll just stay right off the top here. Every
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  Speaker 1: single guy that you were kind of like looking forward to,
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  Speaker 1: like seeing if they were to like do something, did
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  Speaker 1: something like Ultimately, this is obviously not that meaningful, but
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty cool to see all these names that
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  Speaker 1: you see jumbled up together in a prospect listing like
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  Speaker 1: actually part of a team. And then, of course that's
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  Speaker 1: the point of these spring breakouts. But the Tigers right
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  Speaker 1: now sporting the number one prospects prospects in baseball ranking
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  Speaker 1: wise for an MLB pipeline, and a lot of those
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  Speaker 1: guys look the part.
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  Speaker 2: What do you see?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we gotta start with Bryce Rayner. This
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  Speaker 3: was his first professional game that did not play after
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  Speaker 3: the draft last summer. Tigers wanted to take things slow
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  Speaker 3: with him and he had I believe it was a
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  Speaker 3: groin injury professional debut, you know, had not really even
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  Speaker 3: laid eyes on him yet this spring, and he was
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  Speaker 3: probably the most impressive player on the field, which is
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  Speaker 3: saying something, especially a guy who hadn't played in a
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  Speaker 3: game or hit off real pitching other than maybe on
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  Speaker 3: the backfield for so long. But he had two knocks
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  Speaker 3: opposite field single, he grounded out, choppered a short nearly
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  Speaker 3: beat it out. I think maybe he did beat it
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  Speaker 3: out even though he was called out on the play,
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  Speaker 3: flew down the line, and then absolutely scorched a line
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  Speaker 3: drive into center field. The numbers, unfortunately there was no
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  Speaker 3: stat cast today. They were showing exit velostees on the scoreboard.
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  Speaker 3: They were a little yanky. I think on that chopper
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  Speaker 3: it said like one oh one or something. I think
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  Speaker 3: that was wrong, But for whatever it's worth, on that
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  Speaker 3: line drive the scoreboard flash one fourteen. I think that
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  Speaker 3: was also probably an exaggeration, but that thing was well
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  Speaker 3: over one hundred. Bryce Rayner hit it hard. Didn't see
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  Speaker 3: a ton. It's on the test at shortstop, but he
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  Speaker 3: moves really well. Alan Trammell before the game was low
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  Speaker 3: key raving about him. I mean tram talks positively about everybody,
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  Speaker 3: but it was like a different level talking about Bryce
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  Speaker 3: Rayner's defensive prowess and then he's got plenty of arm
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  Speaker 3: from that position as well. So it really could not
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  Speaker 3: be more impressed with our first sighting of Bryce Rainer
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  Speaker 3: on the field.
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  Speaker 1: So if you go to his prospect grades or whatever
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  Speaker 1: on pipeline. His run is fifty five, and I immediately
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  Speaker 1: looked it up after that that ground out, because I
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  Speaker 1: was like, man, he flew down there.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 3: I know, it looked like sixty to me.
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  Speaker 2: Looked pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: And he also like had This was actually a theme
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of the Tigers hitters. But I'm a
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  Speaker 1: big believer in, like one of the mature approaches to
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  Speaker 1: hitting is being able to hit with power the opposite way.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be a especially key if you're heavily
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  Speaker 1: left handed. Hey, the major league team's heavily left handed. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: guess what well I left? He's in the lineup today,
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  Speaker 1: Cody as well. It might be might be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a little pattern there, but like he showed
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  Speaker 1: like a mature approach to the plate. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to try to scout his swing, but there
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  Speaker 1: were dudes throwing gas today, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like and and he seemed like on it. And again
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  Speaker 1: for like first debut, you want to talk about butterflies
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff, Like he definitely lived up to
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  Speaker 1: the moment and and that's all you can really ask for.
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  Speaker 1: I would have liked it, like you said earlier to
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  Speaker 1: see a little bit more defensively, just to kind of see.
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  Speaker 1: But if the speed and just general athleticism you see
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  Speaker 1: at the plate is any indication of what he can
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  Speaker 1: be in the field overall, feel pretty pretty optimistic there.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, Cody, the the story of today's showcase
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  Speaker 1: is Max Clark. And it's not because he did like
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  Speaker 1: over the top spectacular stuff. It's just that Max Clark
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  Speaker 1: is a story. He's been a story, like really his
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  Speaker 1: entire life. I continually am impressed with just like the
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  Speaker 1: way he carries himself, Like he has this like sense
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  Speaker 1: of the moment so much. I talked about it last
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  Speaker 1: time where he had the sack fly when he got
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  Speaker 1: called up for his first at bat, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: the quote unquote major league team, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: there was no way he was gonna let a hit
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  Speaker 1: able pitch like go buy him, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna like sense it out like no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: He's attacking. And he attacked in multiple ways today as well.
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  Speaker 1: Again hitting the ball hard, hitting it opposite field, gets
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  Speaker 1: credit for a double. There had the like Baseball IQ
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  Speaker 1: play of the day, thrown out a runner at second base.
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  Speaker 1: And the more you look at that that there's not
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  Speaker 1: that many like in the field kind of quick tip,
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  Speaker 1: quick twitch moments that you can just kind of see
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  Speaker 1: right away just in general, and that was one of
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  Speaker 1: them because he had to make an instant decision and
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  Speaker 1: read to throw the ball at second base because that's
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  Speaker 1: not the quote unquote right play, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like he read it perfectly, made a good throw, was
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  Speaker 1: also a good snack to get the out. And that's
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  Speaker 1: and that's like Max Clark to a t like he
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  Speaker 1: just always knows and has a sense of the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Even after the game. He's on like the social media
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  Speaker 1: for MLB and he's like, you know, the Tigers one again,
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  Speaker 1: Like he just he knows everything.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably watching right now. Max.
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  Speaker 1: Open invitation, whenever you want to come on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I love to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: You had some.
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  Speaker 1: Kind words said about you from Dan Hasty when when
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  Speaker 1: he when he came on a couple months ago, So
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  Speaker 1: we'd love to have you on. But he's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that is very comfortable being the center of attention, and
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  Speaker 1: yet he doesn't He actually also doesn't come across as
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  Speaker 1: one of those like entitled arrogant like young athletes, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he has everything intangible just
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  Speaker 1: like watching him that you would want to be what
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  Speaker 1: soem to be like your number one prospect here in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks once Joe graduate. So Max Clark
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  Speaker 1: to a t always put on a show. I love
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  Speaker 1: watching them. I love watching them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Max Clark's kind of a fascinating player,
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  Speaker 3: a fascinating person. I talked to about everyone I could
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  Speaker 3: about Max Clark's Sunday. They're a little bit of a
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  Speaker 3: bigger story about Max and kind of the dynamic of
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  Speaker 3: his uh celebrity on the athletic day. I hope you
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  Speaker 3: guys will read it, but obviously you know, one of
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  Speaker 3: the funnier things I saw on the internet someday was
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  Speaker 3: like Max Clark looks like a trapple ball player trying
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  Speaker 3: to look like Max Clark, so like, you know, the EyeBlack,
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  Speaker 3: the tats, the big sunglasses, the colorful cleats and glove
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  Speaker 3: and the chain like it could rub certain people, older
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  Speaker 3: school people the wrong way. I get that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the social media. I'm not always a big fan of
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  Speaker 3: people who are kind of making themselves the center of attention.
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  Speaker 3: But I've said this really like since the day Mac
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  Speaker 3: was drafted. Every time I I've talked to this kid,
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  Speaker 3: he's like instantly disarming, Like you you might have this
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  Speaker 3: perception of him, and then you watch him play and
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  Speaker 3: then you talk to him and you're like, nope, I
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  Speaker 3: I like, I like some Max Clark. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: talking with Alan Trammel, aj Hinch right away brought up
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  Speaker 3: like Max Clark is a baseball junkie. He probably watches
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  Speaker 3: more baseball than anyone in our organization. I've asked him about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, something that happened in the spring training game.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I saw that. I've asked him about
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  Speaker 3: something that happened in another game. He's like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: saw that. That's how That's how much Max Clark loves
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  Speaker 3: and follows this game. That's kind of admirable, I think
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  Speaker 3: a good trait to have. And then the on the field. Look,
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  Speaker 3: there was a softly hit ball that fell in front
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  Speaker 3: of him in center today and if I were a scout,
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  Speaker 3: I'm probably taking note of that. And then the play
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned. Right when that ball left the bat, I
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  Speaker 3: was watching the runner from first and I saw Max
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  Speaker 3: Clark just making a B line with this ball, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, this guy's not getting third, this
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  Speaker 3: guy's not getting third. Well, Max fields the ball comes
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  Speaker 3: up firing, the dude realized he had no chance to
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  Speaker 3: get third. And then, like you said, it wasn't just
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  Speaker 3: that he he prevented the runner from getting third, two
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  Speaker 3: third because of how aggressively he read and attack to
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  Speaker 3: the ball, and then the adjustability to throw a second.
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  Speaker 3: That was cool. He also flicked the ball the other
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  Speaker 3: way fell hit off at diving fielder's glove. Before that
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  Speaker 3: ball even bounced away from the fielder, Max Clerk was
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  Speaker 3: thinking too turned it into a double. Those are the
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  Speaker 3: types of plays that are gonna make my Max Clerk
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  Speaker 3: a really fun, exciting, dynamic player in the way we
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  Speaker 3: kind of think of Parker Meadows when we talk about
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  Speaker 3: all the other things he does that affect the game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if Max Clerk will hit twenty five
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  Speaker 3: thirty homers in the big leagues. I don't like. That's
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  Speaker 3: kind of what scouts He mixed one right now is
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  Speaker 3: like can he develop power? Is he going to continue
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  Speaker 3: to hit the ball on the ground too much? Is
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  Speaker 3: he an okay bat? Or is he a really good bat.
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  Speaker 3: Regardless we saw things today that are the reason he
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  Speaker 3: is a highly touted prospect and should be a pretty
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  Speaker 3: high floor big leaguer kind of regardless of how that
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  Speaker 3: bad eventually develops.
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  Speaker 1: There's also an element that you can and and and look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just watching it on my television screen. You were
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  Speaker 1: there today, So if anything I'm saying is incorrect, please
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  Speaker 1: correct me. But that there also seems to be like
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  Speaker 1: a gravitational thing with Max with teammates because like he
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  Speaker 1: he like McGonagall, gets a hit on Max on second
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  Speaker 1: he like he is immediate. I know it's McGonagall, We
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: kind of know they're the bromance, but he immediately is
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  Speaker 1: like hyping McGonagall up the other way. And he has
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  Speaker 1: like the personality of which like nobody on the on
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers has nor is probably the past couple of
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  Speaker 1: years have we you know what I mean, Like like
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Riley Green's awesome. Riley Green's great, but he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: this like aura about him the way like Max Clark
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  Speaker 1: does at this young age. Like Parker Meadows. We talked
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  Speaker 1: to Parker. I love Parker. Parker talked about how he
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  Speaker 1: wants to show them more emotion.
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  Speaker 3: You know, not many baseball players at large have this
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  Speaker 3: sort of aura. And then this is my story. In
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  Speaker 3: a way, that's the sport. Even though the sport has changed,
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  Speaker 3: it still kind of discourages that level of individualism. So
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  Speaker 3: it's an interesting dynamic. I'll be interested to see what
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  Speaker 3: that looks like as Max gets closer to the big leagues.
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  Speaker 3: If you're not a star player, are you going to
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  Speaker 3: be you know, permitted to kind of act or look
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it may be. But in a way, I
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  Speaker 3: like that the Tigers have let him be himself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. And it's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a like you have.
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  Speaker 2: You have the A. J.
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  Speaker 1: Hinches and the Scott Harris's of the world that you
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  Speaker 1: could never imagined themselves being.
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  Speaker 2: Like that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But they also probably recognize that this is like we
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  Speaker 1: have to let him be himself in order to get
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  Speaker 1: the best version of himself. And I would imagine that
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  Speaker 1: you talked about like talking to them and being disarming
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  Speaker 1: the pre draft meetings. I imagine it was probably a
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  Speaker 1: ten out of ten, like you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he made a great impression on everybody, and
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  Speaker 1: so like he's the tattoos and like everything is just
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  Speaker 1: like one of those like it could go this way,
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  Speaker 1: but because it's Max Clark, it goes only in a
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  Speaker 1: positive direction. So yeah, everything's gravy right now. We'll have
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  Speaker 1: to see as he gets closer, like you said, but it.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly is fun.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, among some of the other players that
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  Speaker 1: we saw today, like I mentioned McGonagall, but you know
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  Speaker 1: we saw I mean, we've seen a decent bit about
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  Speaker 1: of him this spring just because he's a catcher. But
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  Speaker 1: Tyrone Loronzo like had a couple of nine moments. Bertino
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  Speaker 1: I thought looked like a he looked comfortable at first base.
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  Speaker 1: And I only say that because I never seen the
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  Speaker 1: play first base, so like I was looking to see
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  Speaker 1: why they look comfortable. He looked comfortable there. They obviously
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  Speaker 1: look look good behind the plate. And how you Lee
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  Speaker 1: also like had the infield single he played like you Lee,
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  Speaker 1: like there is up. We always saw Roberto Campos like
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  Speaker 1: have a couple of nice moments.
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  Speaker 3: Compost low Key has been gotten back on my radar,
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  Speaker 3: done some nice things this spring. Just you can tell
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  Speaker 3: he has improved a lot. And like we pointed out
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, still really young. Interesting, see
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  Speaker 3: what's gonna happen there?
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  Speaker 2: One.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say a down note, but how
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  Speaker 3: you lead? Did I say this? Sorry? I just got
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  Speaker 3: text me a couple of weeks ago. How you Lea stinks?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't. I don't. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if he stinks. I have been impressed with him in
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  Speaker 3: the field. When we had J. A. Cooper on, he
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  Speaker 3: was signing about how how you leave moved really well.
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  Speaker 3: How the metrics actually love him. I see that, man,
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  Speaker 3: I see it at the plate. It's spring, so it's
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  Speaker 3: hard to know, but I have not seen him be
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  Speaker 3: on time or drive the ball with a thirty really
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  Speaker 3: at all. I mean he had won I think, what
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  Speaker 3: double in a spring big league spring training game, but
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  Speaker 3: even today, I mean the Braves, their first couple guys
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  Speaker 3: on the mountain were pretty good. But he just looks
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  Speaker 3: at Tad late like I see him look quick twitch
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  Speaker 3: in the field, something about like the arms, the hands.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not seeing the real quick twitch at the plate.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much stake into anything
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  Speaker 3: in spring, especially these guys playing in big league spring
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  Speaker 3: training games. But for the guy who's the talk of
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  Speaker 3: like the first week of camp after seeing him play
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  Speaker 3: more and more like, you know, I won't see The
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  Speaker 3: big question with him is like how much power is there? Well,
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  Speaker 3: we haven't really seen hardly any power and the hit
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  Speaker 3: tool is supposedly a plus. That hasn't it really shown
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  Speaker 3: up in games yet?
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  Speaker 1: It is a fair point. What about Kevin McGonagall, You
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  Speaker 1: know you first got like or I don't know my
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  Speaker 1: first time, but my first time kind of like watching
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  Speaker 1: like a complete game of his uh and like I get,
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  Speaker 1: I get like Colt Keith circa you know, twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: twenty two vibes. That's probably just me being lazy with
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  Speaker 1: it being left handed hitters, but but his stroke is
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  Speaker 1: the purest dare I say in the system right now?
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  Speaker 1: Like it just like like it looks it looks ready made.
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  Speaker 1: Then I thought that since his like showcase highlights when
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  Speaker 1: he was drafted. But he looks like a ready made
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  Speaker 1: hitter more so than even like a Max Clark. And
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: we saw him, well, we still don't really know what
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be in the field, probably not that important.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like he's that like enough to handle most positions.
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  Speaker 1: He had a long almost play today. But Ken McGonagall,
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  Speaker 1: we just wha poetic about Max Clark here. But if
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  Speaker 1: I had to, like bet on a tool, I'd probably
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  Speaker 1: bet on mcgonagall's bat over pretty much anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we know this sheer hit tool is
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  Speaker 3: legit in a way that Cold Keith comparison holds up
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  Speaker 3: in the lefty bat a little more contact than power,
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  Speaker 3: but mcgonagal's exit velocities far exceed anything Cold Keith has
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  Speaker 3: ever posted. This guy hits the cover off the ball,
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  Speaker 3: which maybe gives hope that he can eventually grow into
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more power. Obviously, shorter profile and kind
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  Speaker 3: of the short arm short levers as scouts like to say,
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  Speaker 3: like that shows up in the batter's box. This guy
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  Speaker 3: is going to make consistent, solid contact, which is encouraging.
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  Speaker 3: We will see if he can develop a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more power, you know, pull side power. My big question
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  Speaker 3: all spring was like the field is he a shortstop?
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  Speaker 3: And unfortunately I still't know. I haven't really got to
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  Speaker 3: see him. I was disappointed today pregame. I walked down
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  Speaker 3: on the field and I knew he was playing third
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  Speaker 3: in the game, but I was like, maybe maybe he'll
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  Speaker 3: take them infield as short now he was at third.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to see this guy take more ground ball.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I still don't know. Ryan Garko told me today that
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: their internal metrics had him as a plus shortstop last season.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I still haven't seen enough. I'm not
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: saying he's not, but I think that's a waiting important
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: question with him. Now. He could just easily play second base,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: but like you start talking third base corners, there might
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: be a little more need to have him become a
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: guy with twenty homer plus pop. That's my one worry
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: with him, Like is he that or is he I
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: don't know, Like Harold Castro was a plus contact hitter,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: you know, but he didn't necessarily do enough else to
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: really And I think McGonagall is going to be better
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: than that. But like that's my one worry with him.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll love to see what happens a lot of
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: If you're in West Michigan, I I'd go because the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of good, lot of good fun guys might
• 17:59
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• 18:04
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• 18:08
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• 18:10
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, speaking of one of the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: themes of the week here, Cody was kind of defensive.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Versatility might be kind of a strong word, but kind
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: of like, can we figure something out out here? And
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the headline maker, we'll just go ahead and start with
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: this one. The headline maker was one special Torblsen. You know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: this episode will debut on Monday, so today should be
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: getting some work in the outfield.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Cody, this is something that we
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: had discussed privately. This is something that we had discussed
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: on this podcast as a you know, why not at
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a certain point, like why not And we had.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Not gotten any indication.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: In fact, you had talked about like it just wasn't
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. Well, push come to shove, and everybody's hurt
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and Torque is hit the ball a little bit here
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: in springs training. He's finally gonna get his chance at
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: an outfield. So what do you what do you make
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of this admission? I guess you could say it from
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the Tigers with with Torque getting a little little corner
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: spot action.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: It gets me a little fired up. Everything's nice and
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: happy and positive in Tigers Lands. So we don't we don't.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: We don't have to get critical too often, Like unlike
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: the early days of this podcast, what why were they
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: not doing this all along? And and and this is
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: another thing that bothered you know, the Tigers are smart now,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: like they are they actually are, but they're they're smart
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: to the point where sometimes you can get these little
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: equips towards the media like, oh, I can't believe you
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: guys didn't think of this, can't believe you didn't see
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: this coming. And we spend all these time throwing around
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: various ideas, going around in circles, and they do something
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: else and then it's like, ah, come on, really, you
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: didn't know that. This seemed very obvious. And I don't
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: know if Spencer Torgelsen is going to be good in
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the outfield at all. I think he would have a
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: chance to be more serviceable if the Tigers had told
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: him in October, Hey, Tork, there's a possibility, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: we could construct this roster a few different ways. There's
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: a chance we move Colt the first. We want you,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: you know, go take some fly balls. We know you're
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you're down there with our coaches. Go take some fly balls. Maybe,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: you know, come down to Miami, hang with George Lombard
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: for a week. We just want to be able to
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: build that in your skill set, because if you want
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: to be on this team like everyone else out here,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: we want you to be more versatile. They didn't do that,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and then they started telling people they just didn't think
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: he could do that. And then the guy resurrects his
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: bat starts hitting a little bit. Well, maybe we should
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: have to work to work play the outfield. And if
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: this is if this looks terrible and isn't viable, that's
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: partly because they threw it on his plate the last
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: minute in spring training. Now, part of the reason A. J.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Hinch gave was like, you know, we really won't just
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: want him to focus on his bat. The adjustments he
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: had to make at the plate this winter, didn't think
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: it was a good time to put more on his plate.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's a fair answer. I like still that kind
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of counter with like, I don't know it. Like then,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: he had to listen all off season to people like
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: us saying he probably doesn't have a path to the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: roster because he's only playing first base. You know, I'm
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: not sure if that was good for him, and in
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: a way he's had he's had a great spring, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: we were saying as recently as last week, I just
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: still don't see a roster path one well, if he
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: if he can play corner outfield, I think he doesn't
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: have to play there a lot. Aj Hnsch wanted to
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: be very clear, this is just a sprinkle in, but
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: it gives them a possible in game move if Torque,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: this can easily become more than just an in game move.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I went from not having him on the roster to
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: now being like this changes everything. I now kind of
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: think Torque is going to be on the roster. They're
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: trying to act like it's not a big deal, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I think it's a huge deal. And I don't really
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: see why this was just now thrown in. You could
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: argue the injuries, but AJ was also asked exactly that,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: like would this be happening if not for Parker being
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: out and fearing being out? And he was like, no,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's an option. Why not try it?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Which is what I've been saying for a very long time.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Why not try it? Yeah? Why not?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I got I got texted about this a couple of
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: days ago from a buddy, and he you can tell
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he didn't really want to like show his cards about
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like how he felt about it. So I was just like, yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's like why not? And I know it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: different regimes and blah blah blah. I no, this is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: not apples and apples. But I was like, hey, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: had to watch Christian Stewart play. I want to look
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: this up play one hundred and thirty four games in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the outfield where well a member of the Detroit Tigers.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: All right, Like, I just think it can it can
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: be possible, is what I'm saying. And and Tor like
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: with like one of the frustrations about any shortcomings he has.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: This is kind of this is gonna be me speaking
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: at both sides here, but one of the frustrations about
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: is like defensive shortcomings is obviously we all recognize the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: athlete that he is. That's why it's like when he
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you know, when you see him in a pop fly
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and it's not like the best read, you're like you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: frustrated because you think he can.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And so I say that to.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Say, like, I don't think he's gonna be some gold
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: glover or anything in the outfield, but like he has
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: always like athleticism has been a trade of his Everything
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that people have asked out of Torque has been to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: utilize more athleticism. That's at the play, that's in the field, right,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So like in theory like that exists. It's basically my
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: point there. And I I just think that if you
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: are trying to build a roster that has as many
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: options as possible, this was you say you want to
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: put too much on his plate. Okay, My counter is,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: well you're doing it now? Is that like not too
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: much too late?
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: You know? Like and how hard is it?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Like if they just made it a policy that everybody
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: who played first base had to have some sort of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: training at another position, would that be a terrible thing
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: outside of like if you had like signed like a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you know, like a Carl Santana, you know what I mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: like the young guys, like why not you.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Know what I'm thinking now, Kieran, Maybe cole Key should
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: be getting some reps. He hasn't look great at first
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and maybe Torque should play first and cole should go
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: get some reps.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Cord.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: That's I think we're probably trending to sort of some
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of that happening. And not to mention the fact that
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: like now you have the ability to do two switches,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and that's with Keith and Carpenter either way, like right,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: depending on you know, who's on the mound and all
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that stuff. So like both again in theory if you
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable sporting Torque like an ending or two in
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the outfield.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: But I just.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It was it's like the opposite me for years, been
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: clamoring for guys to get reps at first base and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: they and they never did or or it happened that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: weird time. Now we're clamoring for the first baseman to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: get reps in the outfield or whatever. So it's a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: little bit of reverse as we in the mid march
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: in the seasons on the verge of starting. So I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: just think it's a little bit of a compliment to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: his bat, So I don't want the oldest all yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: all this joking around to kind of overshadow that. But
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to me this seemed like, I want to say, no brainer.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: But if you're just like throwing ideas on the board,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: it would have been like relatively high up of how
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: can we maximize the utility of our roster. So that's
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that that that that's good. Good on tour, good on tour.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Hope hope he you know, figures out a way to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: look decent in the outfield, and you can see him
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: on the field in.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: The major leagues to start the year.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Speak of seeing on the field, we're seeing hobby Er
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Bayaz getting a little bit of third base action Cody
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and obviously there's no mystery about whether he's going to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: be on this roster. Funny, I was actually thinking, I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, we're not really It was kind
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: of silly how much we were talking about the injury,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like all winter and then leading up, because he got
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: acclimated pretty quick and he was playing like I don't know,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: like two weeks in the camp, you know, like it
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: didn't didn't take very long.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: To his credit, there on the rehab. But I had
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: a thought. I had a thought.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, eh, is this not that great of
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a use for Jace Young getting throwing Hobby over there
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: at third base and then everybody else is getting hit.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: He's one of like five people getting like about in
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: center field or whatever. But I was like, if hobbyer
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is playing third and he did have a couple of
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: plays so as to see, you know, how it looked
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: this week and we talked about Jayce Young. We talked
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: about how like you give him some leeway, let the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: bat go. But as more time goes on, I almost
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: feel like I got to backtrack that because it's just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of indicators there for him.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But I thought, like Hobby playing some third base, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: didn't think that was good news for j So Jase Young,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Hovier bias, not that we expected it, but somehow linked
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in this roster configuration.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think you're certainly onto something there.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: People forget how much third Hobby played with the Cubs,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: how much second he played, Really, how little shortstop he
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: played until his last year or two with the Cubs.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: He's played plenty of third. He can he can do
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: it in a way. He's built for it. Obviously, I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: don't know if you're gonna want his bat in the lineup,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: but there's gonna be some more playing time open at
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: third base. I think Jase Young entered this camp. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: don't will say it was his job to lose, but
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: he was certainly the front runner and unfortunately he's four
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: for thirty three in spring. He's hitting one twenty one.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Not only that, he hasn't walked, as he hasn't hitting
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the ball, hit the ball with authority. You can't point
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: to him be like, well, you know he's had go
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to exit Vlow's it was just lineouts or whatever. He
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: hasn't He has been laid on fastballs, caught in between
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: on breaking balls. I think this week the word pressing
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: was used in his most recent spring training outing. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: mean he was he was kind of swinging at everything,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: which isn't really his mo. Because I think he's feeling
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the heat. And we still have a week left to
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: go in camp. But if Young doesn't snap out of this,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I think he's now looking at beginning the season in TRIPAA,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: which could open the door maybe Trey Sweeney, who has
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: looked better in camp can make this team. Really, that
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: makes perfect sense. If Jase isn't on it, you don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: even have to worry about the McKinstry Sweeney thing, all
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: at third base or all in the infield, all lefty hitters.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: So you could have some mckinsry at some third, Hobby
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: at some third Andy at some third The Jamai Jones
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: thing we're not hearing as much about anymore, although he
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: still has a great roster case. I think that's someone
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: who's very much impacted by now playing the outfield. There's
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: a world where towrqu and j N maybe you could
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: carry them both. I don't know for sure if that's
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: gonna happen, but that's much more in the cards now.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of things are in the cards because Jase
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Young right now might be on the outside looking in.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I almost wish that you had either.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Now this is not this is to be clear, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it's not second guessing. I'm just kind of speaking out
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: loud here almost as if you wish you had like
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: two guys that were drafted as third basement technically could
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: play some some Bible third base because you because you
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: look kind of th in there you know, I mean,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: like with the no Bregmann and then Jay's having not
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: having a great spring, it's hard to feel confident about
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the hot corner. All right, Well, the most topical thing
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: of the wheat Cody, we're just not getting too But
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: there's so much other interesting stuff to talk about. We
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: did get a little bit of an update regarding Parker Meadows.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: We're eliminating the thought of him mean on this roster
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: come opening day. Hard to read into it, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the injury report and the language, which I get the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Tigers credit for putting that out there, but it's also like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like vague on purpose, so it's not
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: like they're giving us everything. But again, credit to them
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: for doing it. It did have different wording. It did
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: say it did seem like there was something a little
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: bit more tangible there about like what he was doing.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: How it made it seem like the nerve was firing
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit. It's kind of like how I just
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: like loosely interpreted it. So I don't know if there's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: anything more that you can add there, but it's the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: biggest thing is that he will not be you know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: started in center field on opening day, but it's at
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: least hopefully that means he's also like progressing and they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: have some idea of the timeline.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, I don't know. I'm not a doctor. I
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: don't have the full medical breakdown. If you guys want
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: to go read about the musculotaneous nerve or whatever, it
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: is also confusing and probably won't really help you understand
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: what's going on all that much. He has a nerve issue.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: He's not gonna be ready ready for opening day. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: think we had seen this coming for a while. Now
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: it's official, and I guess that reopens the question like
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: who is playing center field when? So Perez he missed
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: several days with lower back tightness. He had to get
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: a quarter zone injection. Had me scared for a little
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: bit in a way. Still, anytime a guy's getting injections
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: is back, that's scary. But he's back on the field.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be on the team. He's gonna play
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of Riley Green no coincidence. Another thing we
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: had kind of been calling for been getting some looks
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: in center field. I think there's still a good case
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: that maybe Riley should spend more time in center and
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: so one of these other guys gets back, but that
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: is certainly open for debate and can depend on a
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: lot of other factors our guy hobber bias. There's also
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: been whispers could he plays some center field. I think
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: he did it in maybe a backfield game, which is
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: a little bit crazy to think about. Based on the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: athlete Hobby is, there's no reason to think he couldn't.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: And they're also but that'd be putting a lot of
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: wear on tear maybe on Hobby, who isn't an older
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: guy obviously is not someone you want to protect to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the degree of Riley Green. But I'm a little more
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: skeptical of like how much of that we're actually going
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: to see. But wait, we have some options. This picture
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: at least is now more clear. I'm not sure you
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: feel good about it, but at least we know what's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the the Perez thing was getting pretty worrisome,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and and again I'm not gonna say it like over it,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: but that was that was one that it was getting
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to like teeth clinching time. It's like, all right, what's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like really going on here? And as much as everybody
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: like wants to just like, you know, keep the goal
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: glove caliber, like paraphrasing Darrin Dickerson on the radio today,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: like keep the goal glove caliber left fielder and left fielder. Again,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like at a certain point, like your your better lineup
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: is probably gonna have Riley in center until some of
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: these guys get healthy. So, uh, we we shall see,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: we shall see. It's it's it's a it's a good
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have that, Like you have
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: somebody you actually feel comfortable playing center in this really
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: kind of dire situation, even though you like don't necessarily
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: want him to have to do that, you know what
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean. So, so that's something that at least you
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: can feel good about having somebody pretty dank solid back
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: there in center field. So all right, Cody, real quick here,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: we'll tease this for our next episode. We'll do a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: little bit more pitching stuff in our next episode. But
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you got any sort of like topical thoughts here on
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the on the rotation kind of tightening up a little bit.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this this competition is gonna come down to the wire.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: As Casey Miz continues to look lights out, Kinsmayda I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: was told Sunday Kinsmida is on this team, So I
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: know some people get mad at us for saying that,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry you don't like to hear reality getting paid.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: He will be on the team, Will he be in
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: the rotation of the bullpen. I don't know. I think
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Mice has made that a much more interesting question. I
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: still think the performance of Brennan Hannafi has made that
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: a much more interesting question. Someone, probably either Hannafee or Mize,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: is going to get some bad news at the end
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: of camp. There's a world where the Tigers could use
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: my Ada out of the bullpen, have a platoon neutral splitter.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe you feel okay about that. But now jackson Job
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: got beat up a little bit in his most recent outing.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: The stuff is so good Kieran, but he hasn't put
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: guys away. The walk rates a little higher than you want,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the strike rate is lower than you want this spring.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Obviously the ingredients are there to work with. It becomes
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: an interesting question. And then there's still the whole prospect
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: promotion incentive situation where if you start jackson Job in
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: the minor leagues, you probably got to keep him down
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: until I don't know when. What you don't want is
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: him coming up pitching well, winning Rookie of the Year.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: If he finishes a top two vote getter, he gets
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: a full year of service time, even if he've kept
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: him in the minors until June. So in a way, oh,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: that's a tough situation. Makes me think maybe job still
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: has an edge. But here in the final days of
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: camp one, shaky Job outing, maybe he has this view
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: in this a little bit differently. This thing's gonna come
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: down to the wire. I don't know how it's gonna
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: shake out.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of prisoners of the moment stuff. I love it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: That's what That's what spring training is all about, all right.
• 37:03
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