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Molly Mae and Tommy Fury Spark Debate After 'Child-Free Getaway' · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Amy Torber. I'm Kate Torber.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Sophie Torber. And coming up on today's show,
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  Speaker 1: Molly May and Tommy Fury spark debate after their child-free getaway.
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  Speaker 1: And Virgin Australia gives Sydney Airport a social media masterclass
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  Speaker 1: following the Sofa Dofa debacle.
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  Speaker 2: But first, Laura Henshaw has been praised.
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  Speaker 1: For keeping it real after opening up about a fight
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  Speaker 1: she had with her husband, Dalton. Now, Kate, what caused
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  Speaker 1: the argument? Well, Laura and Dalton are new parents. They
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  Speaker 1: have an eight-month-old, so I feel like I can almost
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  Speaker 1: just put a full stop to the end of that.
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  Speaker 2: People who have young children.
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  Speaker 1: Will know that year one of parenting is meant to
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  Speaker 1: be the most difficult on your relationship. Everyone says that
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  Speaker 1: you're meant to really hate your husband. I remember before
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  Speaker 1: having Harry, this TikTok popped up of this influencer and
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  Speaker 1: she was at an event and.
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  Speaker 2: People were like, how's it change your life? And she's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to.
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  Speaker 1: Tell you girls, but you are going to hate your
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  Speaker 1: husband for quite a period of time, but you will
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  Speaker 1: like him again. Yeah. There's quite a bit of resentment,
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  Speaker 1: particularly if you're the one that stays home and your
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  Speaker 1: partner goes into work. Well, I think it's especially difficult
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  Speaker 1: for Laura and Dalton because they both run their own
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  Speaker 1: businesses and you can really tell it's been a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a juggling act this past eight months. I remember
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  Speaker 1: listening to Laura talk about how her and Dalton had
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  Speaker 1: sat down pre-baby and spoke about how they were going
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  Speaker 1: to make sure everything was 50-50 and they'd come up
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  Speaker 1: with this plan And I remember just thinking, oh, that's
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  Speaker 1: never going to happen. Like, unfortunately, when you're the mother,
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  Speaker 1: particularly if you're breastfeeding, a lot of it falls on
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  Speaker 1: you naturally.
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  Speaker 3: And getting back on track, what was the catalyst for
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  Speaker 3: this disagreement?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Dalton fell asleep on the couch on Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: and Laura wasn't happy because She said in order to
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  Speaker 1: get a good sleep, she has to go to bed
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  Speaker 1: at the same time as Dalton. Otherwise, she ends up
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  Speaker 1: waiting up for him to come to bed. I can
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  Speaker 1: definitely see both sides of that because I'm someone who
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  Speaker 1: loves falling asleep on the couch. And 99% of the time,
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  Speaker 1: that is me in our relationship. And the 1% Reese
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  Speaker 1: does it.
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  Speaker 2: I hate it. I cannot fall asleep at all. I
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  Speaker 2: am so guilty of this.
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  Speaker 1: I love nothing more than falling asleep on the couch
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  Speaker 1: whilst we're watching a show together. And I am generally
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  Speaker 1: irate when I'm woken up. Like I am an awful
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  Speaker 1: person to be around. I have to admit, you guys
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  Speaker 1: have told me that I was very difficult to rouse
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  Speaker 1: off the couch when we used.
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  Speaker 2: To live together. Oh, my God, you'd freak out.
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  Speaker 1: Like if anyone crept to bed or just went to bed,
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  Speaker 1: you'd be like, how dare you not wake me up
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  Speaker 1: and how dare you go to bed without me?
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  Speaker 2: And you're just like, what?
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  Speaker 3: You're like, I've now been left to turn all the
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  Speaker 3: lights off in the house.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, would you prefer us to fucking wake you
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  Speaker 1: up and make a big song and dance?
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  Speaker 2: Like we're allowed to go to bed.
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  Speaker 1: Now– Despite the fact that Laura wasn't the one that
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  Speaker 1: was half asleep on the couch, it was her that
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  Speaker 1: was irate. So she went out into the living room
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  Speaker 1: and told Dalton to wake up. And she claimed that
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  Speaker 1: she was trying to be caring, but in the next
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  Speaker 1: breath said that she was pissed off. So she turned
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  Speaker 1: the lights on and woke him up. Now, he told
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  Speaker 1: her that he was coming to bed but then fell
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  Speaker 1: asleep back on the couch.
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  Speaker 2: God, I know that old trick too well.
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  Speaker 1: She said at this stage she was so annoyed that
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  Speaker 1: she went back into the room and turned the light on,
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  Speaker 1: this time full blast, and then Dalton told her that
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  Speaker 1: she was rude.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That is pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I would be fuming. I'm all cozy on
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  Speaker 1: the couch. Someone puts a fucking spotlight on me. To
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  Speaker 1: be fair, she admitted that she wasn't being the best
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  Speaker 1: version of herself. Now, after that, apparently Dalton came into
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  Speaker 1: the bedroom and declared that he was sleeping on the
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  Speaker 1: couch for good.
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  Speaker 2: And she said, fine.
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  Speaker 1: However, he came back in 20 minutes later and slept
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  Speaker 1: in the bed and ended up waking Laura up. The
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  Speaker 1: funniest thing is that they were trying to have this
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  Speaker 1: full blown argument whilst their son was sleeping in the
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  Speaker 1: other room. So they had to sort of be whispering
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  Speaker 1: whilst arguing. Let's throw to more of what Laura said.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm, like, lying sitting up in our bed, just
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  Speaker 4: so angry. And Alice is asleep, so, like, you can't
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  Speaker 4: be loud with your argument. So it's kind of like
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  Speaker 4: you just do this, like, really angry, like, soft voice. And, like,
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  Speaker 4: you can't be slamming the door or anything. So Dotson was, like,
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  Speaker 4: opening the door as he, like, remembered something else he
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  Speaker 4: wanted to say to me. Like, coming in like a
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  Speaker 4: little venomous snake. And he'd be like.
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  Speaker 4: Um that was so mean and then he'd like close
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  Speaker 4: the door but like not slap but like i could
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  Speaker 4: tell his hand was still on it because he wanted
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  Speaker 4: to say more and then open it again and be
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  Speaker 4: like you don't care about me and then you do
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  Speaker 4: it again but like you don't care about me anyway
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  Speaker 4: he proceeded to do it like literally 15 times the
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  Speaker 4: joys the joys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure this is another story that Dalton is just
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  Speaker 1: wrapped that she's sharing online. My favourite bit was when
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  Speaker 1: she called him a venomous snake. I just got this
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  Speaker 1: whole image in my head of it. The ironic thing
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  Speaker 1: is Laura shared this story as a part of a
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  Speaker 1: reel and it was captioned, two new parents trying to
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  Speaker 1: reset their relationship in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And she claimed that, you know, they were all good now.
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  Speaker 1: They decided to put on some music, make some pancakes
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  Speaker 1: and just get on with their Sunday in a more
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  Speaker 1: positive mood.
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  Speaker 2: However, when Laura.
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  Speaker 1: Was retelling the story to her followers... You could tell
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  Speaker 1: Dalton was still not over it because he kept chiming
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  Speaker 1: in being like, you yelled and you were mean. Wasn't
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  Speaker 1: he saying that the best way to get over the
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  Speaker 1: argument was to get intimate.
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  Speaker 3: Or something as well, which I think stirred her up more.
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  Speaker 2: Get the stopwatch on. He reiterated that sentiment in the comments.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote, intimacy is always the answer with a flame
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  Speaker 1: emoji to which Laura responded, not for me, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: I actually love the realness of this.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think that there are a lot of couples who,
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  Speaker 1: who are in the early stages of parenthood that could
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  Speaker 1: relate to this. And I think the general rule is
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  Speaker 1: that whatever was said overnight should be forgiven in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And when you are sleep deprived, it doesn't count. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like old times with me and Tommy and like
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  Speaker 2: our holiday vlogs that we used to do.
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  Speaker 1: Molly May and Tommy Fury have sparked debate after jetting
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  Speaker 1: off on a child-free getaway to Dubai. Some corners of
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  Speaker 1: the internet lost their minds, criticising the couple for leaving
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  Speaker 1: their 10-week-old son Midas at home, while others praised them
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  Speaker 1: for prioritising quality time as a couple. Now, Sophie, it
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  Speaker 1: was actually a fan who broke the news of this trip. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so Molly and Tommy were spotted waiting at the gate
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  Speaker 1: of their Emirates flight by a fan, and the follower
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  Speaker 1: stopped them for a photo and ended up posting it
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  Speaker 1: to TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: And underneath the photo, one user asked.
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  Speaker 3: Whether their kids Bambi and Midas were with them.
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  Speaker 1: And the fan replied, no, just them two. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: guessing they're off on a little holiday themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Now, not long.
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  Speaker 1: After that TikTok, the couple started to share about their
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  Speaker 1: holiday themselves. So Molly posted a photo of the view
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  Speaker 1: outside their hotel room, as well as the macaroons left
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  Speaker 1: by the hotel staff. And it didn't take long for
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  Speaker 1: the media to piece together where the couple was staying.
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  Speaker 1: So tabloids started reporting that Tommy and Molly were spending
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  Speaker 1: over £ 5, 000 a night to stay in an Ocean Deluxe
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  Speaker 1: room at a very exy hotel in Dubai. This trip
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  Speaker 1: was somewhat delayed because originally they were supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: having a romantic getaway in Greece last month, but ended
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  Speaker 1: up taking their two kids with them. So the family
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  Speaker 1: stayed at the Four Seasons Hotel. And following that trip,
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  Speaker 1: Molly admitted on a YouTube channel that Tommy had originally
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  Speaker 1: booked the holiday as a romantic getaway for just the
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  Speaker 1: two of them. She said, I don't think he thought
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  Speaker 1: about the fact we were literally going to have a
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  Speaker 1: seven week old. It seems like it's Tommy that's pushing
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  Speaker 1: for these child free getaways. And I think that's because
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't around when Bambi was born. He was off
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  Speaker 1: at one of his training camps. A bit hypocritical off
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  Speaker 1: the back of what we were talking about on our
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  Speaker 1: other podcast, The Mums Group, about how he was essentially
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  Speaker 1: shaming Kim Kardashian for having a team of nannies when
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  Speaker 1: clearly their young children were with a nanny or with family.
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  Speaker 2: At the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And as you can imagine, this story started to
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  Speaker 1: generate a lot of headlines in the press. The Sun
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  Speaker 1: led with Molly Mae and Tommy Fury fly off for
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  Speaker 1: child-free Dubai holiday 10 weeks after giving birth after Greece
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  Speaker 1: trip guilt. I mean, in that headline, they're really emphasizing Midas'
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  Speaker 1: age there. Another read, I mean, every single article centered
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  Speaker 1: around the fact that their three-year-old Bambi and newborn Midas
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  Speaker 1: weren't there. And they've really honed in on the luxury
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  Speaker 1: element of this trip. I mean, the press knew what
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  Speaker 1: they were doing. They wanted to aggravate parents in the
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  Speaker 1: trenches who could only dream of escaping for a few
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  Speaker 1: nights like this and getting out of night feeds and nappies. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even in the newborn trenches. I'm in the
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  Speaker 1: toddler trenches. And when I saw these headlines, I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: help but be a little bit jealous. I think there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of parents feeling jealousy over it. Entertainment
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  Speaker 1: Daily UK ran with the headline, do parents need child-free holidays?
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  Speaker 3: And the comment section was actually fairly mixed.
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  Speaker 1: So some parents felt it was too soon. One wrote, yes,
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  Speaker 1: a break is good for your relationship. However, a 10
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  Speaker 1: week old baby is just a no, but that's just
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  Speaker 1: my opinion. Another said 10 weeks, no way at 10 weeks,
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  Speaker 1: every fiber of my physical being would scream if separated
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  Speaker 1: from my baby for more than an hour. I carried
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  Speaker 1: them everywhere at that age. Couldn't imagine going on holiday
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  Speaker 1: without them. I can barely imagine it now a decade on.
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  Speaker 1: Others jumped to the couple's defense. One user wrote, why
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  Speaker 1: not if they've got a good support network around them
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  Speaker 1: who can be fully trusted with their little people? Whilst
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  Speaker 1: another said, it's healthy. What is toxic is the mentality
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  Speaker 1: that mothers can't have a break. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: were clearly projecting their own feelings onto Molly and Tommy.
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  Speaker 1: And it's hard not to when you're a parent because
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  Speaker 1: you only know your experience. And Personally, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh God, I could not imagine leaving my 10-week-old baby either.
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  Speaker 1: But if Molly and Tommy feel comfortable to do that,
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  Speaker 1: then isn't that their prerogative?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I tend to agree, Kate.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's something that a lot of parents would
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  Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable doing when their child is so young. But
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  Speaker 1: the media didn't have all the facts. So after they
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  Speaker 1: ran wild with this story, Molly uploaded a vlog called
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  Speaker 1: Life Currently and Our Quick Trip to Dubai. So you
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  Speaker 1: can tell in the title already that Molly wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make it really clear that they weren't away from their
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  Speaker 1: kids for very long. So while this trip was being
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  Speaker 1: dubbed a romantic getaway, the reality is it was a
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  Speaker 1: work trip for under 48 hours. So in the video,
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  Speaker 1: Molly explained that she was there for her work, but
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  Speaker 1: she didn't elaborate more. She said she was initially going
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  Speaker 1: to come out by herself, but then asked Tommy to
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  Speaker 1: join her She added that they even considered bringing the
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  Speaker 1: kids along with them and turning it into another family holiday.
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  Speaker 2: But she was glad that they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Because August is the hottest month of the year in Dubai.
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  Speaker 2: So whilst they.
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  Speaker 3: Were there, it was 44 degrees outside.
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  Speaker 1: Do you get the vibe that Molly is really trying
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  Speaker 1: to keep Tommy happy during this postpartum period? She's spoken
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  Speaker 1: a lot about how she lost herself during her first
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  Speaker 1: time postpartum and how she's been trying to do things differently.
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  Speaker 1: She's been doing a lot of self-care and In her
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  Speaker 1: last vlog, she spoke about how she went and got
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of new bras and matching sets and she
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  Speaker 1: was going to surprise Tommy with them. And then they've
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  Speaker 1: had these holidays, which historically in their relationship, the holidays
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  Speaker 1: have been used as a bit of a band-aid when
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  Speaker 1: things have been rough. So I wonder if this is
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  Speaker 1: her way of keeping Tommy happy? Well, Molly recently spoke
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  Speaker 1: about how difficult the jump from one to two has been.
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  Speaker 1: And how she's had to go off and look after
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  Speaker 1: Midas while Tommy's been looking after Bambi. And the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they really haven't seen much of each other. I
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  Speaker 1: suppose you would be pretty mindful of it considering they
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  Speaker 1: broke up this time two years ago. It would be
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  Speaker 1: playing on your mind. And we saw their reunion somewhat
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  Speaker 1: play out on Molly's doco. And Molly was very open
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  Speaker 1: with the fact that she didn't feel like their relationship
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  Speaker 1: was perfect or that they had fixed.
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  Speaker 2: All of the problems.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could really tell in the doco that there
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  Speaker 1: are still some teething issues there, particularly around Tommy's drinking.
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  Speaker 2: And that things aren't.
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  Speaker 1: As picture perfect as she portrays them to be on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and also on her YouTube. Even in the Dubai vlog,
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  Speaker 1: Molly was talking about how women kept coming up to
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  Speaker 1: Tommy and telling him how handsome he is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that would really play on your mind, particularly because Tommy
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  Speaker 1: does a lot of traveling on his own. Yeah. Also
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the vlog, they were talking about
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  Speaker 1: their peak and trough of the trip, which is what
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  Speaker 1: they normally do after every holiday. And she even dropped
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  Speaker 1: that they had an argument day one. apparently Tommy was
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  Speaker 1: rushing her to get ready and they had a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a dispute because he was hangry.
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  Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, are you going to include
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  Speaker 2: that in?
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  Speaker 1: And then there was this on-running joke that there was
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  Speaker 1: a rumor going around that someone says that Tommy and
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  Speaker 1: Molly argue a lot when they're in public. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was quite funny because they were trying to water down
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  Speaker 1: that rumor. But then later in the vlog, they started
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  Speaker 1: opening up about all these instances when the paparazzi had
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  Speaker 1: caught them out arguing. In saying all of that, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like they've got great chemistry in this vlog. It
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  Speaker 1: felt like old times watching them on a couple's getaway.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually getting sort of pangs in my heart
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the previous trips I've been on before I've
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  Speaker 1: had children and how fun they were and how you
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  Speaker 1: just felt so carefree. And it seemed like Tommy and
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  Speaker 1: Molly felt like that. But then there was this undertone
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  Speaker 1: that they kept pushing that they really miss their children.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that was just to combat any negative
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  Speaker 1: media headlines that were about to come out. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think that they genuinely did miss them. Oh, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they played it up a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Because you have to, you have to play the game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this would be a fantasy of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of new parents to escape the sleep deprivation
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  Speaker 1: and have a couple of nights to yourself on a
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  Speaker 1: luxury trip with you and your partner. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, you'd be wracked with absolute guilt over it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Molly spoke about feeling really homesick and glad
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  Speaker 1: that they were only there.
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  Speaker 2: For basically a day.
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  Speaker 1: She said that when they arrived in Dubai, they literally
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what to do with themselves. She said they
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  Speaker 1: sat there twiddling their thumbs by the pool and that
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  Speaker 1: traveling with kids is so much more fun. It was
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  Speaker 1: also funny when they did a stint by the adults
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  Speaker 1: only pool and they were like, oh, we've got to
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  Speaker 1: take ourself over to the family pool.
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  Speaker 2: This is just so boring and too quiet for us.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you yearn for this child free time, but then
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  Speaker 1: you realize how boring it can be. And that you
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  Speaker 1: really don't have anything to do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like a lovely predicament when you're
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  Speaker 2: in the thick of it.
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  Speaker 1: It was interesting to see how they spent their trip
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  Speaker 1: because I was waiting to see some behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: vision of the work commitment that Molly was there for.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't actually see any of that. I think that
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  Speaker 1: maybe it would have bode well for her if she
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  Speaker 1: included it in there. But again, it might be something
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  Speaker 1: that's top secret and she can't speak about because What
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  Speaker 1: they ended up doing was a lot of shopping, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time by the pool. I mean, Molly treated
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  Speaker 1: herself to a blow wave. She also bought a diamond necklace.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like a great trip. I couldn't quite get
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  Speaker 1: my head around her decision to get a blow wave
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  Speaker 1: because it seemed like two hours later, it was up
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  Speaker 1: in a ponytail and she was by the pool.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what a waste of money. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: was very odd.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought maybe it was for the work commitment,
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  Speaker 1: but it didn't appear to be. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: we've also got to remember about Molly Mae is that
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: she has been really honest about her struggles the first
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: time around with Bambi and how she suffered postnatal depression.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: And I think it is really clear that this time
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: around she's taking the steps to help protect her mental health.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I just feel like there's so much judgment over anything
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Molly Mae does when it comes to parenting. And yes,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: while you personally may not feel comfortable leaving your 10
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: week old child, you've got to remember that she was
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: actually there for a work commitment. And She is running
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: a multi-million dollar business. She has a huge empire that
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: she's got to keep running whilst her children are young.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And I think that the judgment wouldn't be there if
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: this was a man who chose to leave for a
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: handful of hours to go and do something for work.
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  Speaker 2: I get all of.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: That and I agree, but why not leave Tommy at
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: home to look after the children? That's what I don't
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: quite understand because if it was a work trip, then
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: leave the other parent at home. That's what happened when
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Tommy was in training camp. You know, Molly was stuck
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: with the kids by herself. Why not flip the situation
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: and give Tommy a taste of his own medicine? I mean,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: even that in itself speaks volumes because I really think
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: that this trip was about prioritizing couple time. And I
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: think the whole thing is people don't have an issue
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: necessarily with parents going away without their children.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I think it is more around minuses.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Age is so young and Babies are just so reliant
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: on their parents, but in particular their mum and the
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: feeding routine and sleeping routine, even just regulating themselves with
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: skin to skin.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: So I think that that is where people have the
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: biggest issue.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I saw Indy Clinton and Big Ed are also on
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: a couple free holiday at the moment in Bali. And
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: of course it's ruffled feathers in the comment section, but
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: it seems like they're also doing.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: It to prioritise their relationship.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: So obviously there are major benefits for couples going on
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: kid-free holidays and And, you know, children want their parents
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to be happy and to have a healthy relationship. I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: do think this made headlines because of the fact that
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Midas was only 10 weeks old.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I thought they'd just made one for the novelty.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: It's not the day to order it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I'm so embarrassed.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: This week, Virgin Australia gave Sydney Airport a social media masterclass.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Off the back of the airport's feud with Sofa Dofa
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: over gluten-free options, The airline ensured the popular influencer was
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: well fed during her latest travels. Kate, can you tell
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: us more? Well, this time around, Sophia was traveling virgin,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: not Jetstar. So she didn't have to slum it in
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the Sydney airport's food court like the rest of us.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Instead, she was.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Given the royal treatment in the virgin lounge, which Sophia,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: of course, documented on her TikTok. So upon arriving, she
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: spotted a sign on tables and the buffet that said,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: order the sofa dofa gluten-free toasty. She was also personally
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: served the name steak toastie via a cloche presented by
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a Virgin staff member.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I think you're partial to a good pre-toasting with Virgin
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Australia allowance.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: So, how are you?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you so much. She looked so embarrassed.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: You could tell she was quite grateful, but also completely mortified.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: You literally wouldn't know what to do.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: And you'd feel like everyone was staring at you, particularly
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: because of all of the marketing collateral around the lounge too. Well,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: it was quite iconic because she was wearing the perfect
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: t-shirt for the moment.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Her shirt said cult fashion.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Favor.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I wonder if she was regretting wearing that when she
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: entered the lounge. Like you'd be thinking, God, I look.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Like a dick.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I reckon you would be worried that everyone would be
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: thinking that you're like, look at me, look at me
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and my toasty and my special branded this and that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, they really did put the VIP treatment on
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: for her because they gave her three toasties. There were
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: gluten-free sausages, a massive serve of eggs and yogurt and fruit.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, they kept her well-fed in there. It was
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: quite ironic because Sophia's friend Bailey was with her and.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: He was like, are you actually hungry? And she's like, No.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe she ate breakfast that time around just in case. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: she stocked up. Let's give credit where credit is due.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: This was a genius marketing move by Virgin. At the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: time of recording, the video Sophia posted to her TikTok
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: has over.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: A million views.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: The airline didn't even post about it. They didn't need
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to because this completely spread like wildfire. They did, however,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: comment underneath Sophia's video writing, we ride for our gluten-free queen,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: which got 39,000 likes. The airline's velocity frequent flyer also
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: added the comment, the gluten-free redemption arc that we all needed.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I wonder if the airport scolded Virgin for doing it
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: because it made them look stupid. I think they should
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: be taking notes rather than scolding them because Virgin really
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: showed how you can use social media in a positive
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: way to your advantage rather than trying to drum up
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: engagement by fighting back. You can actually get eyeballs on
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: your page by responding in a positive way, which is exactly.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: What they did.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I reckon there would have been a couple of oldies
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and businessmen in the lounge scratching their heads at who
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Sofa Dofa is and why she has her own gluten-free toasty.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it was pretty funny in Sophia's vlog.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh my God, there's a man going up
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to the sign.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: This is so awkward. While overall, this was a really
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: positive PR move from V.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: There was a comment that pointed out that Virgin isn't
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: as supportive to the gluten-free community as they make out.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: So I did some digging.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And while the Virgin lounge caters for celiacs, once on
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: board a Virgin aircraft, they are not guaranteed a gluten-free meal.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: So passengers traveling- on domestic or short-haul international flights actually
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: don't have access to a dedicated gluten-free meal service. The
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: only flight where you can actually pre-order a gluten-free meal
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is a long-haul international flight. However, the meal is not
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: always guaranteed. In saying that, they do offer gluten-free snacks
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: on their onboard menu, but availability varies by flight. Look,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I love that they jumped at the PR opportunity, but
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: maybe you've got to make sure that the rest of
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: your gluten-free options for the rest of your customers are
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: in line. I mean, I wonder if Sydney Airport's going
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: to come back and say, hold on a second.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Hold on.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was Sam Brooks who's like, hold on. Let's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: point out that the gluten-free selection on the plane is
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: actually shit. Look, the messaging from Virgin is a little
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: bit inconsistent, but most people who saw this video would
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: have taken it as a positive and kept scrolling.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I do feel frustrated for celiacs.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: In the gluten-free community who might be like, hang on,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you actually don't do the best for us. Yeah, I mean...
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The rest of the people who don't actually get access
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to the lounge aren't getting to enjoy it, are they?
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: No.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that is where we are going to leave things today.
• 21:12
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• 21:15
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