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The Rise (and Crash) of the Concorde Jet · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so
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  Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Sorry, we're still kicking the gears
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  Speaker 1: the landing gear on twenty twenty six. Let's hear it
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  Speaker 1: for our super producer, mister Max Zoom Zoom Williams Zoo.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you do when the plane ain't working, right,
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  Speaker 2: You just give it a good kick.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and raise the nose up. That's what you should
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  Speaker 3: always do. Just raise the nose up. That won't cause
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  Speaker 3: any problems.
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  Speaker 2: But don't forget down on the stick means up. Up
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  Speaker 2: on the stick means down key key ingredients. You guys
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  Speaker 2: know my flight instructor, Yeah, I played that game too.
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  Speaker 1: That is none other than the legendary, the one and only,
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  Speaker 1: the mythical mister Noel Brown.
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  Speaker 2: In his own mind, it is I, and for all of.
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  Speaker 1: Us they call me Ben Bullet. In this neck of
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  Speaker 1: the woods, we love planes, Noel.
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  Speaker 2: Love. Yeah, Okay, you know what love hate? Right, because
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  Speaker 2: maybe with commercial flying it ain't always the best experience, right.
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  Speaker 2: You don't love what plan represents? What they accomplish for
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  Speaker 2: us in terms of moving us to far flung lands,
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  Speaker 2: and also just the tech of it all. It's fascinating
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  Speaker 2: that we are able to zoom around in these like
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  Speaker 2: air tubes and somehow managed to walk out the other
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  Speaker 2: side on the skates.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Man, well you think I think if you're I think
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  Speaker 1: you can agree with this. My understanding of your perspective
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  Speaker 1: on planes is that you like it when we're traveling well,
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  Speaker 1: but you hate the process of getting on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's a bummer. I mean, there's no two ways
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  Speaker 2: about it, you know, going through security, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that you know, with some experience comes
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  Speaker 2: a certain order of operations that limits the stress of
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  Speaker 2: doing those things. Where a way though, certain ways you pack,
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  Speaker 2: certain ways you dress, knowing exactly what kind of window
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  Speaker 2: you need to allow yourself so you're not freaking out
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  Speaker 2: because there's nothing worse. And it's only happened to me
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  Speaker 2: once in honestly my adult life, where you're in that
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  Speaker 2: line and it's not moving like you think it should
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  Speaker 2: and you cannot see into sight and your boarding time
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  Speaker 2: is about to expire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we've all been there.
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  Speaker 2: That's why.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I peek behind the curtain, folks. Uh By
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  Speaker 1: Palal Nole and I one time we got a real
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  Speaker 1: dander up and we were we were doing something live
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of different cities, and we pushed so
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  Speaker 1: hard to travel by train, and they said, no, guys,
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  Speaker 1: get on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. I think logistically it might have even been
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  Speaker 2: or costwise it might have actually been more expensive in
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  Speaker 2: the region that we were in to do the train travel.
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  Speaker 2: But we also really love train travel. We love the planes,
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  Speaker 2: the trains and the automobiles. We sure do, man, we
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  Speaker 2: sure do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so true that aviation, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: has fundamentally changed the world. And we've got it in
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  Speaker 1: the notes here. Yeah, we love planes. Once you get
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  Speaker 1: on them, they're dope. We also have to check in
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  Speaker 1: with old Zoom Zoom, our super producer Max. I remember
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  Speaker 1: when you were traveling to the Pacific Northwest and you
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised that you were not as excited as
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  Speaker 1: I would be about a flight that long.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I don't. I've gotten used to that one.
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  Speaker 3: To Nole's point, the more you fly, the less annoying
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  Speaker 3: it is. I am bold, clausterphelbic and afraid of heights,
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  Speaker 3: but off of a pro tip from you Ben, I
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  Speaker 3: always right window seat now, and I just find it's
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  Speaker 3: less less just being that as'll see just feels, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not the smallest guy in the world either,
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  Speaker 3: so like but like you know, having pre check is great,
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  Speaker 3: having all these things. But I remember when I was
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  Speaker 3: specific Northwest, I was trying to take Amtrak up to
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  Speaker 3: Vancouver from Portland, and it was so expensive and the
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  Speaker 3: times are terrible, and it was so much cheaper for
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  Speaker 3: me just to run a car and drive and shorter,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just like, how is this thing, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I know we got to get into the episode, but
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to say I am taking my first
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  Speaker 2: ever trip to the Land of Canada. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: Vancouver at the end of the month, and I'm really
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  Speaker 2: really excited. I got a really cool airbnb in gas Town,
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  Speaker 2: which is like very mad Max Fury road coded, but
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  Speaker 2: it's apparently I'm a mega hip area. And the airbnb
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  Speaker 2: I got is like exposed brick like loft kind of
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  Speaker 2: vibes with an awesome stainless steel kitchen. I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to also go on one of the longer
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  Speaker 1: flow in my history.
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  Speaker 2: Man, It's gonna be it's gonna be wild longer than
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  Speaker 2: Doha Grab. I'll have to check the times. That's great.
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  Speaker 2: That was. That was about as long as I could stomach.
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  Speaker 2: And thankfully the kind people at the event that we
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  Speaker 2: were participating in did fly us out. This does not
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  Speaker 2: happen ever, but they flew us out first class on
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  Speaker 2: Qatar Airlines, which will ruin flying for you forever over,
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  Speaker 2: but not necessarily because there's just nothing else will ever
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  Speaker 2: measure up to it. It was like being in a
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  Speaker 2: sky hotel. It was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote to those folks, no, and you wrote to
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  Speaker 1: Qatar Era yes, And I said, what is that tea
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  Speaker 1: that you guys serve at the at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the flight?
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  Speaker 2: Like I bought some of it. It's actually like a coffee.
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  Speaker 2: It's this it's sort of the sandy gritty uh. It
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  Speaker 2: is called uh I forget the name of it, but
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  Speaker 2: it's like the sandy gritty stuff that you just boil
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  Speaker 2: hot water, poured it and then you gotta strain the
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  Speaker 2: stuff out or you'll get these chunks of sand in UK.
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  Speaker 2: But it's sort of Arabic coffee, is they call it.
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  Speaker 2: And I bought some in one of the markets and
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  Speaker 2: it's really good. It's sort of a combination between coffee
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  Speaker 2: and tea and one of the other beverages that I
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  Speaker 2: really enjoyed they started on the flight was Saffront, which
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  Speaker 2: I had come mega mega a fan of absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: And this is another thing that we have to point out. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: aviation has changed the world. Depending upon where you live
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  Speaker 1: and how much you have in your bank account or
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  Speaker 1: your sky miles or your whatever their DMB power wallet, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and your commissary, your sky commissary, you can literally hop
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  Speaker 1: around the planet from one plane to the next way
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  Speaker 1: faster than previous generations could have dreamed while traveling by
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  Speaker 1: sea or by land.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But I was thinking about this too, man, the runway
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  Speaker 1: to modern aviation, to getting the three of us JR.
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  Speaker 1: Broni's up in the sky. That passage of innovation has
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  Speaker 1: been littered with missteps and false launches and peril. And
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  Speaker 1: it reminded me, dude, of our series on the many
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  Speaker 1: many inventors who.
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  Speaker 2: Died trying to figure it out, the Darwin Awards of
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  Speaker 2: it all. Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was recurring to
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  Speaker 2: me too, and I couldn't remember the fellow's name. But
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there a dude that like invented like a flying machine,
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  Speaker 2: like a winged kind of suit, and then he crashed
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  Speaker 2: to his death like into the side of a mountain,
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  Speaker 2: like Wily Coyote style. Yes, yeah, I might be conflating
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  Speaker 2: it with an actual Wily Coyote cartoon now that I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking about it, But it wasn't too far off. It
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  Speaker 2: was very acme coded. It was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so weird that when we started our
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  Speaker 1: series on inventors who died by their own inventions, the
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  Speaker 1: first iteration was just about people who died trying to fly,
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  Speaker 1: and it turned into a two parter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, in case you wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do a little more digging if you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: re listen to the episode if you haven't listened to
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  Speaker 2: two already. Otto Lelenthal, known as the Flying Man, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: did meet his demise in eighteen ninety six after his
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  Speaker 2: glider stalled out and crashed. He broke his neck, though
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  Speaker 2: he did contribute significantly to what would ultimately be the
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  Speaker 2: first successful flight by the Wright Brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in fact, this is a guy who is a
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  Speaker 1: candidate for an upcoming episode.
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  Speaker 2: We have on famous last words. Oh gosh, I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember what he said.
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  Speaker 1: He is rumored to have declared in German, sacrifices must
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  Speaker 1: be made.
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  Speaker 2: She is so German. It's so German. It's like when
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  Speaker 2: my German is what he accepted his fate in the
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  Speaker 2: furtherance of science.
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  Speaker 1: It's like when my German ex girlfriend, as a compliment,
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  Speaker 1: told me she found me severely adequate.
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  Speaker 2: Ben. In my mind, I pictured that your German next
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  Speaker 2: girlfriend's name was as a compliment, and I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was the That's a very unusual German name, because it's
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  Speaker 2: all in the accent.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So today we are rocketing into one of the
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  Speaker 1: most ridiculous stories in all of flight history. As we're
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the new year in travel. It is the
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  Speaker 1: rise of something called the Concord Jet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh may we, oh, may we.
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  Speaker 1: Please introduce this with a commercial from nineteen seventy six.
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  Speaker 2: I sure hope so, because you're setting it up so well.
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  Speaker 4: Now, when you fly the flag, you can fly the future.
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  Speaker 4: British Airways Concord the first supersonic passenger airline to fly
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  Speaker 4: you at more than twice the speed of sound. The
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  Speaker 4: Concorde has crossed the Atlantic in three and a half
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  Speaker 4: hours and now she will fly you to Bahrain faster
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  Speaker 4: than ever before. Hats all of taking more care of you,
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  Speaker 4: giving you what you need first, best and fastest. Fly
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  Speaker 4: the future, Fly.
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  Speaker 2: The flag, Fly the future, Fly wave the flag. I'm sold, Ben,
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  Speaker 2: How come we haven't heard about this? This seems great,
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  Speaker 2: it seems pretty great. But they did it not take offs?
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  Speaker 2: Did it not? Do they made a commercial sounds so confident.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very patriotic because that's you know, British Airways,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they're talking about, will fly the flag.
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  Speaker 2: So this is like a commercial fighter jet basically, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's sort of the idea, similar technology. Yeah, okay, So
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  Speaker 2: where did the Concord come from? And to our earlier question,
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  Speaker 2: why is it not around today? Perhaps most importantly will
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  Speaker 2: it return? And most most importantly is this where the
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  Speaker 2: delightful New Zealand comedy du a Flight of the Concords
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  Speaker 2: derived their name. That's a good quest to be They
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  Speaker 2: spell it different They do spell it differently, and it
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  Speaker 2: is plural, but can't be a coincidence. So what's the
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  Speaker 2: hearken back to Britain? If you couldn't guess in the
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  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties when a bunch of plane buffs plane lovin
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  Speaker 2: doven boffins, really, you know, fell all in head over
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  Speaker 2: tea kettle with the idea of a super sonic passenger plane,
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  Speaker 2: hence the breaking of the sound barrier.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And for quick context, folks, obviously commercial aircraft, regular
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  Speaker 1: regular peasant aircraft already existed. But the world was so
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  Speaker 1: excited and a little bit frightened when the news spread
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  Speaker 1: that some plane, some aircraft could feasibly fly faster than
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  Speaker 1: the speed of sound. We're talking mock one, baby, because it.
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  Speaker 2: Makes that sound, right, doesn't it? When it breaks, it
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  Speaker 2: makes this it makes the the pop pop. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A guy named Charles Chuck Elwood Jeger he achieved or
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  Speaker 1: he broke the sound barrier in something called the Bell
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  Speaker 1: X one on October fourteenth, way back in nineteen forty seven.
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  Speaker 1: This proved to the world that the sound barrier could
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  Speaker 1: be broken by the way speed of sound at sixty
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  Speaker 1: eight degrees fahrenheit, it's around seven hundred and sixty seven
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  Speaker 1: miles per hour.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a mock something situation? What is it? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: It is?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because when you break the speed of sound,
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  Speaker 1: you hit mock.
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  Speaker 2: One, mock one, and is mock two a thing? It is?
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  Speaker 2: It is twe how many mockatives can we achieve as
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  Speaker 2: a human species. It's a work in progress. Okay, fairenough.
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  Speaker 2: What is the maximum mocks currently? What are the maximum
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  Speaker 2: mocks currently? Jeez, Louise ben, It looks like we've achieved
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  Speaker 2: mock nine point six, which is yes, that was unmanned
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  Speaker 2: though experimental scramjets a name, get out of here your
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  Speaker 2: jet in two thousand and four, Mock nine pointy six. However,
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  Speaker 2: manned we have kind of like manned humans, we've only
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  Speaker 2: achieved mock six point seven to two, or about four thousand,
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  Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty miles per hour. That happened nineteen
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  Speaker 2: sixty seven.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not say only come on, that's so fat bad.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, I don't mean to poo pooh. That's very
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  Speaker 2: very meaningful, especially again I was remarking nineteen sixty seven,
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  Speaker 2: that's very impressive by William J. Pete Knight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we see this technology goes back decades
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  Speaker 1: and decades. Breaking the sound barrier also broke everybody's mind.
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  Speaker 2: No idea we.
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  Speaker 1: Could achieve this, so world militaries immediately keep in mind, folks,
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  Speaker 1: we're still in the forties world. Militaries immediately rush to
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  Speaker 1: explore this as a tool of war. But about well
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  Speaker 1: over a decade later, a couple of the big boys
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  Speaker 1: in the game started asking each other.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what if we can also, you know, make some
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  Speaker 2: money on this. Yeah, because when you think of fighter planes,
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  Speaker 2: like they're typically kind of a one person deal or
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  Speaker 2: two maybe you know, one in the front, one in
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  Speaker 2: the back. How does one scale something like this? It
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  Speaker 2: seems like it needs to be as low weight as
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  Speaker 2: possible to be super nimble and to be able to
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  Speaker 2: achieve those levels of speed. And in order to make
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  Speaker 2: it commercial, you got to shove more humans on there.
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  Speaker 1: Right exactly. And you also have to give a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a boon to the private aerospace companies that are
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  Speaker 1: constructing the supersonic craft. So maybe it was maybe it
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  Speaker 1: was someone in the private aerospace industry who said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll build your death jets, but also we'd.
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  Speaker 2: Like to make a little bit more money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So this this is something that was very front
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  Speaker 1: of mind for these folks. In nineteen sixty two, Britain
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  Speaker 1: and France joined forces on the Concord Supersonic Transport or SST.
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  Speaker 1: And you can just hear the optimism seeing in the
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  Speaker 1: name concord meaning agreement. The British and the French supposed
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  Speaker 1: to discord, right, the British and the French, who historically
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  Speaker 1: don't always like each other. They were like, ah, jets
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  Speaker 1: are cool though, friend situation there, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: the French folks said, oh, and the US also got
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  Speaker 1: in the game a little bit. You know, the US,
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  Speaker 1: especially post World War Two, has all of the coolest,
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  Speaker 1: most dangerous toys, right, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Those get these wonderful toys.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's no surprise that the president at the time
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  Speaker 1: in the sixties, a guy named Johnny K to his friends.
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  Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna do an American version of the
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  Speaker 1: of the supersonic transport. This would be the Boeing two
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  Speaker 1: seven seven three hundred. But then later Uncle Sam scratched
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. They never even built a prototype.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a little bit fortuitous, wouldn't you say. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like somebody at the drawing board stage got
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  Speaker 2: to a point where they're like, ah, not sure that
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna fly literally right, or you know, I
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  Speaker 2: mean it might fly, but it also might like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: cdit land, Can it take off? Can it do the
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  Speaker 2: hard part? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: The Soviets were playing the game too, and put the
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  Speaker 1: tremendous heft of their centralized economy into building something called
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  Speaker 1: the Tupolev Tu one four. This is the world's first
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  Speaker 1: passenger plane to ever fly supersonic above the speed of
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  Speaker 1: sound in nineteen sixty nine, and they launched the passenger
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  Speaker 1: service of their own in you know, communists in the
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  Speaker 1: Soviet Union.
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  Speaker 2: And I know sometimes we give the Soviets a little
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  Speaker 2: grief for flying too close to the sun, right, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, they did certainly achieved some incredible things. But
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't you say that had something to do with the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they were willing to take a lot more risks.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. The space race shows us the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, from Ottoman to Kursk, the Soviets throw bodies
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  Speaker 1: at a problem.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, that's that's and dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all got like my Cold War's coming out. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me dial it back here for sure and admit
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  Speaker 1: that the Soviet government did a tremendous job with the.
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  Speaker 2: Tupa level that's wild that they achieved that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they ended up wrapping their passenger service in the
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  Speaker 1: early nineteen eighties, and their issues weren't so much technical
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  Speaker 1: as they were economic because spoiler fellow ridiculous historians, very
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  Speaker 1: few people in a communist empire could afford the high
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  Speaker 1: prices for a ticket on a supersonic craft.
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  Speaker 2: It is one of those things, ben where it's like,
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  Speaker 2: is it worth paying double to get there twice as fast?
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  Speaker 2: Like is it that a deal to just just just
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  Speaker 2: factor in the time and work around it, you know?
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  Speaker 1: And how much is your time worth? That ultimately becomes
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  Speaker 1: the decision point. So in the case of the tupe Lev,
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  Speaker 1: it's not the engineering that's a fault, it's the society,
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  Speaker 1: arguably in which the craft was created.
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  Speaker 2: So back to the Concord. Just a little while after
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  Speaker 2: the tupe Lev Tu one forty four achieved liftoff, and
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  Speaker 2: that's more of a space term, achieved takeoff, Britain and
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  Speaker 2: France came through with their prototypes for the Concord. And
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  Speaker 2: these little guys are big guys. They could scoot, they
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  Speaker 2: could scoot. They were fast needles in the see guy.
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  Speaker 2: So Concord's first flight takes place on March second, nineteen
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  Speaker 2: sixty nine, when the French launch their prototype creatively named
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  Speaker 2: Zerosie one, and the French test pilot Lo and Behold
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  Speaker 2: is able to get this bad boy scooting in the
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  Speaker 2: sky successfully lander and then when he lands, he simply says,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the big bird flies lag. Yes, yes, just so I
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: learned that in the Muzzy videos. Is that true?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: No?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: But I remember the Muzzy videos cartoons were talking different languages.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I just remember in the commercials used to play. It
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: was like Sui legrand musie.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like learning Japanese from old Kurosawa films.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, corone of Blood. I wish there was
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: more blood spray in the Muzzy cartoons.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, let's revisit that, and maybe we
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: can make a case in this episode for revisiting the Concorde.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm skeptical, but optimist. It is a
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: good gauge if someone's like in your kind of age group,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: if they remember Muzzy. It was a bit of a
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: moment in time where those commercials were on like children's
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: television channels like all the time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think you're right, more blood spray, more
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: blood spray really amped up their game. So not to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: be outdone are pals over in the Kingdom. They make
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: a prototype and they call it in a burst of
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: creativity zero zero two.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Such a bick move and really even think about it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they flew from Bristol's Filton Airfield in the
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: United Kingdom a few weeks later, and then at this
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: big old air show in Peri, both of those models
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: were on display. Beautiful, right, And then we go to
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: they look dope.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Oh they still do, right, And then we go to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. It's September twenty sixth, the Concord makes
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: its first non stop crossing of the Atlantic. It's flight
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: at at average speed of nine hundred and fifty four
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: miles per hour.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Would you feel g G force? You know, the way
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: that you do when you're breaking the sound barrier and
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a fight a fighter jet and where you know, squishes
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: your face back.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Seems like that might be a little unpleasant. Yeah, that's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a great question. Probably depends upon your rate of acceleration, right,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: because they're not they're not breaking the sound barrier right
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: off the grounds, right. So this this is the French
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: version of the Concord. It flies from Washington, DC to Orlely, Paris,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and it does so in three hours and thirty three minutes,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: which is just bathly.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: It's impressive. It's impressive, but also again, like you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: just fact around the time. That's all I'm saying. Yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it also a bummer that is sometimes lose a whole
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: day to travel, and if there is a time change
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and all that, you know, this could potentially mitigate some
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: jet lag and stuff like, I mean, I can see
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: how it could be a positive thing. I'm poopooing the idea,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: but I could see circumstances for transatlantic flights where cutting
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the time in half like that could be pretty solid.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then the question becomes, is this nothing more
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: than a rich boy toy to help justify the war effort.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that aspect of it, been
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the whole you know, war of it all.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I guess we should say the war industry.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, the military industrial compact. That's the one.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And Okay, so we are you.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Max and I and you listening at home, folks, are
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: we are major airlines around the world, and we start
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: putting in our bids. We want to have a concord fleet.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: We want to have a Concord service. But then in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: our own boardrooms we start thinking through the economics, the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: nuts and bolts per passenger ticket prices. One by one
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: we all withdraw from the game. So only two airlines
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: ultimately purchase the concord Air France and British Airways.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Then I can't remember if I mentioned this. I took
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: an Air France flight recently on the way back from Germany,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Oh cocaagg Denmark. Yeah, and I don't know that I'd
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: been on an Air France flight before. And the thing
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that was most remarkable that at the moment those wheels
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: touched down on the runway, they dropped the most banging,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: daft punk esque track and it just like it was
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: almost like someone was there wait and wait and wait
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and waiting and touchdown boom, just like the.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Guy in any orchestra during a big number who just
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: holds the symbols for like ten minutes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then hits the big one for the counter boom. Yes,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: it was pretty impressive. I like, can't I can't lie.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And also the plane had rear and front cameras that
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you could access while in flight and that was a
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: really cool feature. So kudos to Air France. They've always
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: kind of been ahead of the curve a little bit.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: British Airways I'm not as familiar with, but they both
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: launched that service in seventy six, like you said, and
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: it was super limited. Ben. We lived near a major
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: airport here in Atlanta, and I think we all can
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: get a little fatigued with just the sound, constant sound
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: of commercial flights taking off. Can you imagine if we
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: also had to deal with the explosive ear shattering noise
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that is a sonic boom?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is this is the next issue they
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: run into. Service is limited, not solely because of the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: capabilities of the craft itself, but because to your point,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Noel breaking the sound barrier is spoiler beep us here Max.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It is loud as it is so thank you for
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the beetbacks. It is so gosh darn loud. So both
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the French and British governments they said, all right, the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Concord can only fly at supersonic speeds over water, basically
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: over transatlantic routes, and also would it makes sense to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: hop a Concord jet from London to York or something
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that close, you know, certainly not I don't see how
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it works. So it's not only expensive to build these guys.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's not a strike one, it's not only limited in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: its deployment Strike two. It is still kind of you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: for rich people.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: But the science of it is so incredibly impressive. Ben, you,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: by the way, excellent work on this research for this episode.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Ben found that this is actually constitutes flying faster than
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the speed at which the Earth rotates. Yes, so it
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: can pick up passengers from London at breakfast time and
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: then zoom zoom them all the way to New York
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: City before us breakfast time, double breakfast, breakfast, second breakfast.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: That's a yeah, potato right, the whole day on the
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: same dang day.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, jumping he real quick, considering what considering
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the amenities on the flight that we will get to,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: you could say it's the third breakfast.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah, that's a great right there, Max.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Because this this inspired, you know, the upper crust of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: society to brag to each other. Oh, you must fly
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the concord. Oh, I've I'll see you. I'll see you
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in a few hours when you land. You see, old boy,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm on the Concord flight.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course, and you were. Of course there have
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: been doing an impression of Sir David Frost, who loves
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: to brag about flying the Concord being the only way
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: to fly because it constituted being in two places at once,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the only way in this human life to achieve such wonders.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I love that David Frost. Obviously it is the richie
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: rich Londoner.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we can maybe do an episode on him later,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: but okay, he loved the Concord and he definitely paid
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: out of the nose for it because in this white
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: surprise folks, it continued through two thousand and three. So
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: these are some of the most relevant numbers we have
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: for ticket fair. In two thousand and three, the standard
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: return fair like a round trip from London to New
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: York was six thousand, six hundred and thirty six British pounds.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Which if we inflation calculator it with a boop and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: a dude, Max, where's your thank you? Creacious? That would
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: be a whopping What are we talking eleven thousand, two
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: hundred and forty two British pounds sterling today or fifteen
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: grand roughly.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this gets a little complicated. Uh well we
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: have to double dragon it. That's fifteen thousand, one hundred
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and thirty one dollars and seventy two cents in todayish prices.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: That's more than fifteen grand o boys per ticket. Random boy,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it's a word we made up to mean fifteen grand.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Love it, love it. Thank you. You did it with
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: such confidence that I absolutely believed this was a thing,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and you know what now it is.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you man. I feel like I just got knighted.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Hey knighted me. But also we have to point out
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: because of the limited size of the fuselage, there's no
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: real basic economy option. You were paying the same ticket
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: price as the celebrities, yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Like Robert de Niro as in cashish, which it would
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: cost you quite a lot of As we previously mentioned,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you did get a lot of perks. This is borderline
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: like the glory days of sixties pan Am you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: luxury though it had to of course be contained a
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: little bit, but you did get fine foods and wines.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It was a limited cabin size, so it was incredibly exclusive.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: The service was immaculate, The champagne was a flowing.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Seriously, this is about when you could smoke on planes.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: They would give you cigars, you would eat cavia and lobster.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even like that there's still last trays on
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: some older planes.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It's really weird to see. But also like, I don't
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: think either of us were old enough to have ever
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: been on a flight when smoking was still a thing,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: though I do seem to recall people smoking in airports,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: but ports, yeah, can you imagine though, on a limited
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: sized cabin like that, it's getting hot box by cigars.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: There's not enough ventilation, of course, And also I remember
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I've been on private planes where I've been small like
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: puddle jumpers, where the pilot was smoking, and I was like, oh,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that's not that's a choice. It's not the choice I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: would have made. But thanks for getting us there, man.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Recycled air But yeah, I think Hartspeel is actually one
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: of the last airports to have smoking areas. It's been
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: in the last like fifteen years, at least last night
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: they cut it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, way less than that. We it's just been in
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the last five to ten years, more like.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Five, which is funny because I think they're all pet
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: relief areas. So if someone's walking through Heartsfield and they
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: have a pet with them, enjoy the smoking areas.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: And those a man looking up at the ceiling in
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: those smoking areas, it's just probably covered in gook. But
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: of course in Europe you're still going to have smoking areas,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and nearly every major.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Airport one hundred percent, a lot of different a lot
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of different countries around the world are still much more
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: friendly to that kind of stuff anyway. So there we are.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: We've got our caviat, We've got our lobster. This is ridiculous.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: We're champagne drunk. We're trying out cigars for the first time.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And then we start watching the other people on the flight,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and the people watching is bonkers.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Oh I got second to none celebrities, royalty, the upper
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: crust of the upper crust, the one percent of the
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: top one percent of the top one percent. When Queen
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth flew, which of course she did, she always got
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: seat one are for the Queen.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: And does it as one of the only people on
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the planet who actually doesn't need a passport.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's weird, even sound barrier gimmick of
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it all too. They kind of commercialized that aspect into
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a fun collectible. Oh yeah, Yeah, they gamified it. Right.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: There's this big mock meter at the front of the cabin,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and the cabin is small enough that you can see it, right.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And when they break the sound bear, they drop some
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: French disco.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they dropped some They dropped some French disco
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: that will later become Daft Funk. They pass out yet
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: more champagne, and this thing just says it's a big
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: celebration when it hits mock one, and then it's a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: big celebration when it hits mock tw twice the speed
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: of sound, and that's when people have a champagne toast.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Every time.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Mock two is when they drop the French disco and
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: they do the champagne toast.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they got a lot of flights in
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: if what we say British Airways starts in nineteen seventy six,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: so all the way up to two thousand and three,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: their Concord fleet operated close to fifty thousand flights, clocked
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: up more than one hundred and forty thousand something flight hours,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: traveled almost one hundred and fifty million miles, and along
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: with that, everybody riding on there, including the Queen of England,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: collectively consumed over one million bottles of Champagne.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's again I say to you, there must
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: be a reason. This isn't something that we hear about anymore.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the first time we saw the
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Hoover dan man who has spat in the face of God,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: But I just mean, like, it seems like they've found
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: some pretty consistent success, you know, running these flights for
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the super super rich. So I mean there must have
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: been something that caused things to change. I think we
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: know that there is. That's what this episode's kind of about, right, Absolutely,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: this is our turn.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, those numbers from British Airways don't even count
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Air France. For just a few decades, the concord was
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: high and mighty. Was a different world, was a faster
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: one if you could afford it. It was a future
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: in the sky. Until we fast forward to July twenty fifth,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: two thousand.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Two thousand. It's yeah, yeah, I just again, it blows
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: my mind. This was as recent as two thousand. That's
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: when an Air France concord flight. Air France flight forty
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: five ninety crashed just after takeoff at Charles de Gaulle
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: airport over there in Paris. One hundred passengers, nine crew
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and four people on the ground were sadly killed. Both
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Air France and British Airways found their concord grounded in
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: order to run significant safety.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Checks one hundred percent. Yeah, and this is the standard
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: operating procedure in this situation, you know what I mean,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: just like a car gets recalled or a model of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: car gets recalled after accidents. However they endured for a time.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and one, the concord is officially back.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: The skies are looking a little less gloomy. But as
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: will recall, no something else occurred that year. In the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: United States, September eleventh, two thousand and one, one of
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the worst disasters on US soil in the country's history.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Changed a lot of things.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, man, remember when we could just did
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: you ever do this? Pre two thousand and one? I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: would just go hang out at the airport to meet people. Also,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: like at their gates, you not have to go through security.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I mean we we It's hard to remember even a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: time before TSA. Yeah, it really is strange how quickly
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: things get normalized. And as we say, because of various
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: laws both France and Britain were largely dependent on the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: United States for their Concord roots, and so when travel
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: air travel, especially around US areas, doesn't exist, those are
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: empty seats. They're crazy travel restrictions.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Like you just mentioned, the operating costs of these things
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: must have been astronomical. And if you're running these things
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: as a loss leader, I mean, that's not gonna that's
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: not going to last, that's not going to be sustainable
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: for them.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a double whammy. It's spelt doom
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: for the profit. As you said, right, these are expensive
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to run, and therefore it's spelt doom for the birds.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: And we would acknowledge this. All plane crashes are terrible.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: All crashes are terrible, But folks run back what Noel
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: just said. This crash in two thousand is the only
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: fatal Concord accident in the entirety of its operational history.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: It was just so new and so fancy that one
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: thing going wrong. It's kind of like when Tesla's first
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: came out, or when electric vehicles first came out. There
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was a lot of skepticism about this, this new rollout
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of an automobile. Also, the cyber truck is trash.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Not only is it trash, and it's in the way
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: it operates, not as advertised, but it's just boy, it
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: is a dumb looking car, a real barnacle, a real
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: albatross for anybody driving that thing around.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I love nineties video games, and I think they belong
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: on the screen and not in real life.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: And whenever I'm on the highway and I have one
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: of those things next to me, I'm like, I got
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: to merge over as fast as possible because I'm like, man,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm going to get run over
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: by something made by someone who watched a knockoff of
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Tron like way too many times.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: So Ugly will riddle me this, guys.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: If the Tesla company came to us and said, do
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: an episode on cyber trucks and we'll give you each one.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Cyber trucks will become a footnote in history, sort of
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: like the DeLorean.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, Delarey, it's a good cop. Even the El Camino.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just a weird looking thing.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, I mean like, if you want a car,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: get a car. If you want a truck, get a truck.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Who needs a truck, right, car.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: You can sell one, according to Google AI for around
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: seventy two hundred thousand dollars. So if I'm allowed to
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: sell it, sure, I'll take it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Well again, because of the historical curio of it, all right,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: it's I would.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody really drives them not well,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: So later investigation did, oh that's the Camino though.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: We're talking oh cyberdrug Yeah yeah, yeah, no wait, I
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: see those cyber drugs rolling around here in Atlanta plenty,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and a lot of them have really awful like rat decals. Yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: it's a real humiliation ritual.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Well, uh, you know, if that's, for some reason or another,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the only vehicle that you could get that, we wish
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you well on the road. Just be careful because they
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: have some design flaws, kind of like the Concorde.
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  Speaker 2: So I hear, and you know, there's a reason I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: just can't believe it was as recent as the early
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: two thousands that these things were happening. I just had
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: was complete blind spot for me, did not realize that
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  Speaker 2: it was that recently. But you if you can imagine,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I think we talked about did we talk about the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: last kind of nail on the coffin here?
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  Speaker 1: Oh. The The investigation for the accident shows shows us
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: what happened, and we want to recommend a great deep
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: dive on YouTube by a guy called Mentor Pilot me
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: N t O U R Pilot. He will walk you
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  Speaker 1: through all of the blow by blow events and factors
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  Speaker 1: leading to that tragic accident of flight four five nine zero. Essentially,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it failed due to compounding known defects and unfortunate happenstance.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: It ran over debris in the runway. That in the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: debris was small stuff that was left behind by the
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  Speaker 1: aircraft that took off just before it. So it runs
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  Speaker 1: over this the boom boom, and it causes one of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the concord's tires to explode. The tire explodes and disintegrates,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and it shoots little tire pieces all across yeah, shrapnel
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  Speaker 1: just so all across the underside of the wing. It
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  Speaker 1: damages landing gear so they can't retract it. It ruptures
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the one of the fuel tanks and I've got like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: thirteen fuel pods on these things that the fuel starts leaking,
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  Speaker 1: It ignites, it knocks out the engines one on two
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  Speaker 1: on the left side. Everyone dies. This happens in less
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  Speaker 1: than two minutes real time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh jeez, it's really it's pretty awful. So on April
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: tenth of two thousand and three, British Airways announced that
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: they were retiring their fleet of seven Concords. They did
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: a farewell tour of the United Kingdom in North America
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: with tens of thousands of you know, Concord stands saying
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: there goodbyes to this iconic aircraft. And in May of
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: that year in France also retired their fleet.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And so it goes, we flew to supersonically close to
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  Speaker 1: the sun. And now, fellow sky lovers, we don't want
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to get all MOPy about what could have been. When
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you're talking about inventions and you're talking about experimental ideas
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and innovations. Even a even something that ultimately doesn't work out,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: is a learning opportunity and hopefully informs the next big idea.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And let's remember, you can still go see some Concords
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: live and in person to day. Just get to your
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: browser choice and you can find you can you can
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: maybe find some in your area.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You just can't, you know, fly on them for no,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: you sure can't. And this was all in news to me,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: super super interesting. I really really enjoyed doing this one
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: with you. Thanks for the excellent research.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Nola, and thanks to everybody for tuning
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: in question. Knowing what we know now, would you guys
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: fly at Concord Jet if we didn't have to pay
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: full ticket price?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, I think I would.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I would lobster caviar things I can't eat from the condition,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: but still.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I would pay extra for the no cigar flight. Honestly,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: not to sound like I'm not still a cool person
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: in my old age, but when you described it as
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: hot boxing, Nol, that really stood out to me, because cigars,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: even in like a big room are they announced them,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: so even just.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: The recycled air of it all, the mouth breathing of
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: it all, you know, I mean, can you imagine if
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: we were literally mouth breathing smoke.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Just imagine the mouth feel from all the recycled cigar smoke.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, it turns the stomach.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Big, big thanks of course to our super producer, mister
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Max William Saxon. Before we give it thanks to our
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: favorite mouth breather, Jonathan Strickland ak the quizt uh we
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: did here in the chat, Max was looking up the
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: origin story of flight of the Concord, So how about
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: we end on that one.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: It is very long, but I found it from what
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: appears to be their official websites. But basically they had
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: booked a gig and they didn't have a name. So
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: one of them went to the bathroom and noticed on
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: a toilet that I was titled the Concord and the
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: other guy was like, what about Flair of the Concords.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: They're like, okay, that's the d story Max with the
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: facts disappointing as they may be. Nothing to do right
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the fact, nothing to do with the topic of today's episode,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: But well done, my friend.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Big big thanks of course, aj Bahamas, Jacob's the rude
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Dudes of ridiculous crime.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Who else well, you know who else been? Christopher Hasiote,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: isn't even the Jeff codes here?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And spirit of course Yes, and big thanks to everybody
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: who works with the airline industry.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for putting up with our stuff.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Flight attendants and I think a lot of pilots are
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: severely unappreciated.
• 43:48
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