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Unsigned518/The Unsigned Unwind present: Gussapolooza '24 Recap · Unsigned518

• 0:00
  Speaker A: Welcome to this special edition of Unsigned 518, the unsigned unwind. I say slash because as I was recording this episode, this is all interviews that I did up in Cookstown, Ontario, for Gusapalooza. Three day music festival for unsigned artists. But it was also they had, like, a convention there as well with, you know, people within the industry so people could network. There was, you know, videographers there, there was podcasters, radio broadcasters, photographers, digital media. There was all kinds of things. And I met some people that do something very similar to what I do, but they do it, you know, up in Ontario, and I just had such a great time hanging out with them, great time meeting them. And we're talking about possibly, and when I say possibly, like, you know, as far as I'm concerned, it's happening, but we're. We're talking about doing collaborations. You know, there was a radio station up in Peterborough, and great podcast called Bad Music Club, and I want to do something with them, and I want to, like, almost like band swap, you know what I mean? Like, maybe have them do a segment on my show. That's just a quick cause. Like, the guys in bad music club do a weekly or a daily thing on their instagram that's just like, you know, bands you should know, and it's just like a quick thing, literally, but just like, bands you should know. And I want to kind of do something like that with, you know, some of the bands down here and introduce the people up there to our bands and introduce the people down here to their bands because they're doing the same thing. And it's. It was really funny. It was just such a. It mirrored what's going on down here. Everybody trying to uplift each other, everybody helping each other, and it was, like, just such a great experience. And I really want to thank Russ Robson and his wife, Val Robson. They're the ones that created gussip loser, put the whole thing together, and they worked tirelessly, like, pretty much throughout the year to get this happening. And it was a. It's a really cool, magical thing that they've got going on. I'm definitely going next year, and I'm hoping that I can bring not only some people from the 518, you know, maybe some creators to come up and do a booth, but I would really love to have at least 1518 artist be playing at Gusapalooza. So I'm going to work on that and I'm going to get them interested and familiar with what we've got going on down here and see if we can get, you know, just a bigger community to our family from the north. Cause when you think about it, you know, I always kind of think of the 518 as, like, Albany is the center of my 518, I guess, because, you know, I live down here. I live in Schuylerville, and that's the big city is Albany. But, you know, the 518 goes all the way up to literally the border of Canada. So there's a lot of these bandst that are, you know, not very far from the 518. So it's not like, you know, Canada is this faraway land. You know, a lot of people in the 518 can be there in ten minutes. So it's a really important thing, as far as I'm concerned, to build a relationship with them and keep that network going and, you know, again, make them aware of our music, us aware of their music, and then we can just make friends. And I, that's how we get shit done. So on this episode, I'm basically, I haven't quite decided if I'm going to do one part or two part. I guess we'll figure it out as I get going. And, you know, because I do have a lot of content, but what I'm going to do is I'm just going to kind of run through all the content that I got over the weekend, all the interviews. I met a lot of bands. A lot of the headlining bands sat down and talked to me, and we're going to play those interviews and some of their music and, yeah, and I'm just going to kind of roll with it. We'll see if it's going to be one episode or two. I guess we'll find out soon enough. But without further ado, let's get into unsigned 518 and unsigned unwind present a special retrospective on Gusapalooza 2022.
• 4:14
  Speaker B: He was born on a Saturday in 73 with a short wind radio back. Look at motherfucker cuz here he comes.
• 4:40
  Speaker A: First up, I'm gonna talk with rising canadian star Brigitte Eve. And, you know, in the beginning of this, you'll hear me say, welcome to unsigned 518. And I think as I wrap up this segment, I say something about, you know, on the unsigned unwind. And it's basically because I didn't know kind of how I was going to package all this when I got there. All I wanted to do was get the interviews. I wanted to talk to the artists. I want to find the new music. And I kind of went back and forth between, oh, these will each be an individual episode of, you know, the unsigned unwind, or, you know, I'm going to put them in the regular episodes of unsigned 518. And I just couldn't make up my mind. So you'll catch me slipping up and saying, unsigned 518 and the unsigned unwind. But whatever. So what, you know, it's obviously, as you're listening, it is. You know what it is? It's a combo episode of unsigned 508 and unsigned unwind. Because I really wanted to, you know, most of the artists that I spoke to are canadian. There was a couple from the states up there. But, you know, I really want to, you know, and I keep driving at home. I want to get us familiar with their music and them familiar with ours and just build a, you know, an unsigned artist or a smaller artist community to help people get to where they need to be. But anyway, let's go to Gusapalooza 2024 in Cookstown, Ontario. This interview was on day one. It was the very first interview that I did, and there was a. There's power. There was some power issues. You know, we. We were being powered off a generator where we were, because we're out in the middle of a field in these tents, and there was some, some power issues every once in a while, and it caused some chaos. But, you know, it was, it was great. We got it back. So when I was interviewing Brigitte, right when we were at the very end, I mean, literally, I was saying, you know, hey, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to talk to me. The power went out, and unfortunately, with my mobile zoom unit, when the power goes out, it doesn't render and it doesn't save anything. And now I know, like, you know, I'm gonna always go with that battery backup because I just, I never used batteries because they were always unreliable, because one time I had batteries die in the middle of an interview, and I, you know, so I was like, I was gotta plug it in so that I don't lose power and then didn't think that sometimes the power goes away. But anyway, here, this is the second attempt at an interview with Brigitte Eve, and it's really great. So check it out. All right, welcome to unsigned 518. I'm here live at Gusapalooza 2024. And I'm here with Brigitte Eve, and this is what is ending up being the second interview. We've had some power issues.
• 7:37
  Speaker B: Okay. Happen to be on stage.
• 7:39
  Speaker A: Yeah. And we lost power in this interview right at the very end of it.
• 7:43
  Speaker B: So we're just right as we were at the end, man.
• 7:45
  Speaker A: Yeah. Literally about to wrap it up, but we were talking about your positive attitude, and so I'm gonna keep a positive attitude, and we're just gonna roll with it. So even though now I feel like we're old friends, I guess. Rajit, tell me a little bit about yourself and your music.
• 8:01
  Speaker B: Well, thank you for the intro. I'm Brigitte Eve. I'm 18 years old. I've been playing guitar since I was ten. For my 10th birthday, I asked and I have received the guitar. And then when I was 13, I decided to start singing. Got into a bandaid, liked it, decided to start recording originals during COVID Made it my job. Mom asked, do you really want to make this your job? And I'm like, yeah, career took off. I would say took off to compare to how I start. And I'm. Hopefully we keep going that way. And I started playing, I guess, at Palooza two years ago. This is my third year, and it's quite amazing, and I love it. And I'm glad to be back, especially first year on the main stage with my guitar player, Chris. And I think it went really well.
• 8:51
  Speaker A: I think it went amazing. You kicked off the whole concert and, you know, as someone who's, you know, played in bands, like, it's tough usually in the earlier part to, like, be the first one out there. And I was so impressed with not only your energy, but the way you had the crowd in the palm of your hand from, like, moment one before you even hit. You know, you were like, this is my. You know, this is my shit. I got this. Let's do this. And I was impressed with not only that, but the song. So the songs you did a mix of covers and originals. I recognize a couple of them having.
• 9:31
  Speaker B: A crowd in my palm of my hand.
• 9:32
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 9:33
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you did. I had them.
• 9:36
  Speaker A: And so I guess, like, you know, you said you went to original songs during COVID Yeah. So how was that transition from learning cover songs and cutting your teeth on other people's music to writing your own and finding your own identity?
• 9:53
  Speaker B: Well, I think I've definitely improved. It's very difficult to write original songs.
• 9:57
  Speaker A: People like, it's so easy.
• 9:59
  Speaker B: I gotta think of the drums, the lyrics, the guitar. What do I want? When I record in the studio, there's all these things that I have to think about. But writing songs now, I find kind of easy lyrics wise. I'm still having trouble with guitar because I cannot make them sound the same. They have to be different, man. Unless I. Well, some artists like it like that. They have the same kind of rhythm or beat. They find something the audience likes, they take it, and they use it a lot, which isn't a bad thing, but not my style.
• 10:32
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's just a different formula.
• 10:34
  Speaker B: Like, we all have our unique things, and we have. Maybe you wear the same outfit almost every stage because that's what the audience likes.
• 10:40
  Speaker A: Right?
• 10:41
  Speaker B: Like the Manic Boys and girls club. She has something across her face, and it's the same makeup she uses all the time. She found a rhythm, like my goofy.
• 10:50
  Speaker A: Orange hat that I have to wear.
• 10:53
  Speaker B: All the style that is taking over this booth.
• 10:55
  Speaker A: It really.
• 10:56
  Speaker B: Not a bad thing.
• 10:57
  Speaker A: Not a bad thing. It makes me stand out, I guess. So you're from, like, where do you. Where do you hail from?
• 11:05
  Speaker B: Oh, I'm from Barry.
• 11:06
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 11:07
  Speaker B: I love Barry. Nice little small town. My music comes from more of a background. I'm french. I am. That's how I grew up with the french culture surrounding me. A lot of french music playing around the house. I grew up watching french stuff, so I don't have any french originals. But I do think my culture and my background does kind of seep through my music, especially because I go to interviews, and I can do french and english interviews. Being bilingual is a very, very good thing. So a Europe tour that I hopefully can get would be the next step, because I could speak French. I cannot speak any other language. French and English.
• 11:58
  Speaker A: I took French in high school, but I was not amazing at it. And high school was a really long.
• 12:03
  Speaker B: Time ago, so I'm not gonna speak French to you. Cause I've learned from experience when someone's like, I grew up kind of learning French, and then I'll start speaking, like, Quebec French. And they're like, oh, no.
• 12:13
  Speaker A: I was like, what? I wouldn't know. Regardless. Yeah, I was terror. I was terrible at it. So I guess what we want to do is play one of your songs, of course. And I know there's a story behind this one, so if you want to maybe tell me a little bit about that.
• 12:28
  Speaker B: So this is called gonna be okay. It's about two of my friends that tried to harm themselves during COVID Because Covid was short and sweet ass. We were stuck at home, and it was horrible. The song is about helping one another and just kind of, hey, this exists. This is out here. There's a thing called depression, and a lot of people have it, and you can't just ignore that it's there, and it's a real thing. You should. You should honestly support one another. If your friends like, man, I'm sad. Don't be like, we're all sad. Just sit there. And even just hearing them out is a really good thing. I'm not the best at it, I'll be honest. I can use some more, but I'm good at talking to people through songs, and that's how I do it. Of course, I asked for their permission to make the song before I wrote it, but there's no names in there and there will never be names in there.
• 13:22
  Speaker A: Yeah. And, you know, and I was saying the first time we recorded this before we had a power surge, is that, like, if the song is, you know, coming from a real place and a positive place, and if someone can identify with that and you can literally help someone.
• 13:39
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 13:40
  Speaker A: Deal with their depression that you've never even met, you know, that can just listen to your music and your message.
• 13:47
  Speaker B: I had a guy come up to me, I won't name his name. I was playing downtown. I was busking. He came up to me and he was like, mandy. He started crying and he was like, you made me have. I've had such a bad day and I really appreciate it. I'm going through a lot. I'm like, do you need a hug, man?
• 14:04
  Speaker A: He's like, yes.
• 14:05
  Speaker B: And he, like, hugged me. And another person, his wife was severely sick and her window was open and I was playing music and he actually walked down and he was like, my wife is sick and she really appreciates you singing. So it's even just that it wasn't even gonna be okay. It was just me playing music, period. Helps people. It makes them happy.
• 14:23
  Speaker A: It does, yeah. And if you can help just one person, it makes everything.
• 14:28
  Speaker B: Oh, it makes me happy. Making someone happy makes me feel good. It makes me happy.
• 14:33
  Speaker A: Yeah. All right, well, Brigitte, thank you so much for taking time out of your day at the gust of Palooza to come sit with me and do this podcast while the band plays. It's such a cool, such a cool scene, man. But right now, let's listen to. Oh, well, actually, before we go, where can people find a online.
• 14:50
  Speaker B: Oh, okay. I have a website, www. Brigidev ca. You can find all my social media. I'm on Spotify, Apple Music, all of the musics. And just listen to my music there and follow all my social media because then you'll find out where I play next.
• 15:05
  Speaker A: All right, awesome. So let's listen to Brigitte. Eve. Gonna be okay? On the unsigned unwind.
• 15:21
  Speaker B: Hi, this is Hannah. Leave a message. Bye. Hey, how have you been? It was 10:00 a.m. since I last checked in. Where have you been? Are you out of bed? Yes. That's a no. Yo, where did you go? It's now three weeks. You're still not at school. Yo, I hope you know I miss you. I miss you. Hey, it's gonna be okay. Talk to me. Please talk to me. Don't you know you can talk to me? You didn't talk to me. Hey, don't die. You said you'd be fine, but you know that's a lie. Hey, look what you did. Your skin isn't paper. Just let me save her. Yo, didn't you know we're here for you? Don't let yourself go. Yo, I hope you know I miss you. I miss you. Hey, it's gonna be okay. Talk to me. Please talk to me. Don't you know you can talk to me? You didn't talk to me.
• 18:24
  Speaker A: That was gonna be okay. Brigitte to Eve and make sure that you check her out. She's really great, super nice. And shout out to her mom, too, because her mom, she was, you know, Brigitte was calling her her momager, but her mom, like, went around and literally set up all these interviews and was like, okay, you know, go to. Go to this guy. Talk to him, then go over here and talk to him. Go over here and talk to him. And she was super, super nice, very friendly. I really, really liked meeting them. So, Brigitte, Eve. All right, so next up, we're going to talk to Alessandro Montello. And at Gusuploos at the festival, it was really cool because, you know, it would just be hanging out at my booth and someone would just walk up and say, hey, you know, I'm performing on the main stage. You want to. You want to catch an interview? And it would happen, like, literally just like that. And it'd be like, yeah, hell yes. You know, sit down, press record and go. So Alessandro's team came up and basically said, you know, he's going to be performing at 03:00 and we, you know, if you would like to have an interview with him. And I was like, absolutely. And so he walked over, we pressed record, and, I mean, we had literally just shaking hands, like 45 seconds before I hit record. And it was very loud. And it was just such a man. I just can't even describe the few. It was so cool. It was like guerrilla podcasting, you know, right from the. Right from the festival. And knowing also, too, that Russ is the founder of Gusapalooza had, you know, talk to the artist so that it wasn't an issue of, oh, there's going to be some original music playing in the background. Like, he had already talked to everybody and everybody was cool with, like, you know, their music appearing in stuff. And I don't know, it was great. But anyway, here's me talking with Alessandro Montello. I am here again live or actually, you know, on site at Gusapalooza, and I'm here with an artist. What was it? Alessandro Montello. Alessandro Montelli, yeah, Montelli. I was close, so it's pretty close. Good job. So I guess, you know, we talked for, like, 30 seconds before we got rolling, but basically, I just want to find out a little bit about you, a little bit about your music.
• 20:35
  Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm actually an artist that was.
• 20:38
  Speaker A: Born and raised in Italy, south of.
• 20:39
  Speaker B: Italy, to be specific, in Bari, Puglia.
• 20:43
  Speaker A: If there's any italian listening.
• 20:46
  Speaker B: And I'm italian canadian, so having my.
• 20:50
  Speaker A: Mom that was born in Toronto and.
• 20:52
  Speaker B: All my family is, you know, lives.
• 20:54
  Speaker A: In Canada, whatever, Toronto.
• 20:57
  Speaker B: I always wanted to move to Canada, you know. So six, eight years ago ish, I.
• 21:01
  Speaker A: Moved to Toronto and started a whole other music journey here. Started to make a name for myself.
• 21:07
  Speaker B: And in the alternative community. We could say, I do pop, punk, alternative pop, and.
• 21:14
  Speaker A: Yeah, that's basically me. I sing in Italian, I sing in English.
• 21:18
  Speaker B: I love doing music. That's all I've been doing for my entire life. And. Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker A: And do, you know, write all your songs and record everything or do you have a band?
• 21:30
  Speaker B: Yeah, I've always written my own songs. I do work with producers, of course.
• 21:38
  Speaker A: There's a song that I performing today that is with my friend Charlie Ancho, for example. She's jumping on stage with me. Nice.
• 21:46
  Speaker B: It's a very happy alternative pop punk.
• 21:49
  Speaker A: Type of song, which I'm excited to play. And so right now, you know, we can hear Russ Robson of. He's the founder of Gustapalooza speaking right now. And so you're playing today at, what, 03:00 was. Yeah, three to 04:00 p.m. okay. And right here on the main. On the main stage. Yeah. That's exciting, man. I'm excited. And the last interview I had, I had caught them after their sat, so it was kind of interesting. But I. It's going to be, I think, a cooler way to look at it, having talk to you before you're set. I know. I think it's cool.
• 22:18
  Speaker B: Yeah. Thanks for having me.
• 22:19
  Speaker A: Yeah, I think it'll be really neat. So I guess before we go, is there any. Anything that you want to add, like, for sure?
• 22:27
  Speaker B: Yeah. Well, if you like, pop on music alternative with a little bit of spice, which is the italian that I bring.
• 22:35
  Speaker A: Feel free to check out my social.
• 22:36
  Speaker B: Media at Alice Montmusic and Alessandro Montelli on Spotify, YouTube, all the streaming platforms.
• 22:43
  Speaker A: And what I'm gonna do is, I'm not sure. Like, I'll probably take all these interviews and do, like, one big gusap lose episode. But either way, I will be sure to link your Spotify, of course, in the show notes.
• 22:55
  Speaker B: Feel free to tag me and everything.
• 22:57
  Speaker A: We love that anybody listening could just go to the show notes. Yeah, for sure. Wherever you're listening right now. And you'll be able to. Able to find your music. So we're also gonna play one of your songs now. So what. What song are we gonna play?
• 23:09
  Speaker B: Yeah, the song you're about to listen to.
• 23:10
  Speaker A: It's called anything you need. Anything you need. And is this one that I'm gonna hear later live?
• 23:15
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's one of the songs that.
• 23:17
  Speaker A: I'm gonna perform on this stage. Yeah. Awesome.
• 23:19
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker A: All right, so anything you need?
• 23:21
  Speaker B: Yes, and I got it.
• 23:23
  Speaker A: Anything you need, I got it.
• 23:24
  Speaker B: That's the way it goes.
• 23:25
  Speaker A: Well, thank you so much, man. Let's listen. Thank you. And we'll be right back with. With more from Gusapalooza, 2024.
• 23:32
  Speaker B: She's broken hearted, mind's gone too begging for love cause you don't know who you are I'm from the north side.
• 23:40
  Speaker A: She'S from the east.
• 23:41
  Speaker B: Beautiful sunshine you all I see, you know, yeah, you know I would do.
• 23:46
  Speaker A: Anything for you anything for you girl.
• 23:49
  Speaker B: You know I have a thing for you I have a thing for you. Making songs she's been drawing leaves wondering if our pets will ever meet could never get enough of a recipe we would always get loud nothing's holding us down anything you need, I got it. You could change the scene. In my fantasy I saw you in my dreams. Always a part of me anything you mean, I got it. Anything you need, I'm on it. You could change your scene in my fantasy I saw you, my kids always a part of me. He's from the west coast, she's from the east. The thousand miles every time they wanna meet you don't waste my time, love are you with me shooting those texts? Cause I got the last. Well, girl, you know yeah, you know.
• 24:43
  Speaker A: I would do anything for you anything.
• 24:46
  Speaker B: For you girl, you know I have a thing for you I have a thing for you I've been making songs she's been drawing leaves wondering if our paths will ever meet we could never get enough of a recipe we would always get loud nothing's holding us down anything you need, I got it anything you need, I'm on it. You could change a scene in my fantasy I show you in my dreams? Always a part of me anything you need, I got it.
• 25:40
  Speaker A: All right, so welcome back again here on site at Gusapalooza. I'm not sure who's playing right now. I'll figure that out. But I am here with Ian. And you played earlier with Alessandro, correct? Yes.
• 25:57
  Speaker B: Played drums for Alessandro today.
• 25:59
  Speaker A: And it was. I mean, great set, great energy. Thank you. But I guess we want to talk about. You were saying, literally, like, you came over a minute and a half ago, and that's why we've been doing all these fucking interviews on the fly.
• 26:12
  Speaker B: Let's roll. Absolutely.
• 26:13
  Speaker A: But you were saying that you do a podcast.
• 26:16
  Speaker B: I do.
• 26:16
  Speaker A: You have a music label?
• 26:18
  Speaker B: I have a record label, yes. And an advertising agency focused in digital audio.
• 26:23
  Speaker A: So I guess. Tell us about.
• 26:25
  Speaker B: Absolutely. Essentially, it was. It was birthed out of necessity from COVID which I feel like a lot of people's, you know, great endeavors is kind of coming from. It's sort of. The new story was just a performing musician and music student at Humber, prior Covid hit. And I just needed to satisfy all the needs to kind of get my personal branding, my musicianship, just kind of to that sustainable professional career kind of level. My parents both work in media. My mother is the commercial executive for TLN, and my father is the exec sales for SiriusXM, so never imposed on me, but there's just almost no denying the necessity for something like that. So my indie label is called Sharp four Records. I organize shows in Toronto. We cut records, you know, like making songs and all that kind of stuff, studio versions of things. And then I have a digital audio advertising agency called Tritone, which basically focuses on all music platforms, like Spotify, Wandering Soundcloud, NPR, Acuradio, Tunein, Sirius XM. So basically, any advertiser that is even not music related, we produce commercials for them if need be. And we advertise, like, targeted campaigns for whatever it may be. So I've worked with, like, TD Bank, Visa, credit cards, Matamy Homes, Anthem United, and, yeah, just executing campaigns and then a music podcast where I literally just shoot the shit, hang out with my friends. I've had artists like Taylor Simpson in Wishwell who just played at the barn earlier artists like Chastity. We just had Dallas Green on his second last album. And, yeah, you know, just doing it. I have a six person team, and we just, we just work every day, man. Like, we really love what we do, so it's a good time.
• 28:16
  Speaker A: And where. Where can. Where can people find your podcast?
• 28:19
  Speaker B: The podcast is distributed through spreaker, and it's available everywhere. Apple podcasts, Spotify, pretty much all the main platforms. It's called flat five. F I v etainde. Flat five. So, yeah, I just, I chat with a whole bunch of people. I've got a good friend named Tim coming from Kenosha. We're doing an online Zoom podcast, so he's a drummer for Disney and 21st Century Fox. So we just, we sit behind our drum set and we talk about drum and drum history and we play and all that kind of stuff, and we. Yeah, I just. I love having, like, very eclectic people, people who do the talking instead of me, essentially, on the show.
• 28:59
  Speaker A: Right. I say the same thing. I'm always, like, I always tell people, like, the more you talk, and I. And I'm a talker, so, like, it's hard to shut me up.
• 29:06
  Speaker B: Right on.
• 29:06
  Speaker A: But, like I always say, the more you talk and the less I do, the better. And I'm the same with, like, any bands or musicians coming on my show. It doesn't matter what genre.
• 29:15
  Speaker B: Like, right on.
• 29:16
  Speaker A: Jazz band, hardcore band. Yeah. Hip hop band. All of them, you know, bring them all in.
• 29:22
  Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, man. Good stuff. Us musicians need people like yourself. We need those who care about the authenticity of it and want to shed light on it and share it and allow us to just make the art and someone else can hold that responsibility of talking about it, you know, and promoting it. Right. So we don't have to become, like, puppeteers and we can just make good music, you know? So I appreciate it.
• 29:48
  Speaker A: Well, thank you, man. I appreciate you. So I guess we'll. We'll wrap it up and. Want to go check out some music?
• 29:56
  Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. Sounds like a plan already.
• 29:58
  Speaker A: Thanks, man.
• 29:59
  Speaker B: Thank you so much, Andy.
• 30:04
  Speaker A: All right, welcome back to Unsigned 508. And I was saying before, I don't know if. I guess this is just going to be one big super cut of Gusapalooza interviews, so I should just say welcome back. Every time there's music playing in the background. We're at a festival, middle of the day, and I'm actually sitting here with Tyler of Cigar club, and they're one of the headliners of Gussip lose. I'm going to be playing tonight. So what's up, Tyler?
• 30:29
  Speaker B: Hey, Andy. It's really good to sit down and speak with you today.
• 30:33
  Speaker A: Yeah, thank you for. Thank you for doing this. And one thing I found is that the artists here are very willing to, like, sit down and, you know, like, I've been getting some fucking amazing content, so it's pretty cool. But I guess for folks that may not know. Do you want to just tell me a little bit about Cigar club?
• 30:51
  Speaker B: Yeah. Cigar club was a band that was formed in 2016. I'm actually not one of the founding members, but I started recording music with them and their first releases in around 2019. And we're like a blues rock band that's kind of what we're based around. But we play modern rock. It's kind of our interpretation of, you know, modern rock, but we take our influences from folk, Neil Young, John Mayer, Led Zeppelin, grunge era, all that. And we combine it all into, you know, authentically what our sound is. It's come out pretty melancholic and sad and kind of, I would say more leaning towards the grungy alternative sound, but it ranges from, you know, soft songs to punk to metal like riffs. So, you know, it's whatever you. You want to say it is. It's. It's a journey for us. And, you know, it's been a really good time playing music in front of everybody and especially here at Gusapalooza.
• 31:59
  Speaker A: And one of the things I like is, you know, when sometimes, like, you'll get bands that are not afraid of their influences but are kind of focusing on, hey, this is our stuff. But I like, I've always thought that to get your own stuff, you need to recognize where the separate influences come from. And, like, in listening to your songs, I noticed, like bits and pieces of like, ah, that almost sounds like a. Like a Neil Youngie, you know? But then it would, like, punch in and I'd be like, well, no, that wouldn't be a Neil young, you know, because now it's like, that was kind of this. And do you find that, like, owning up and, like, addressing your influences is like the way to go?
• 32:43
  Speaker B: I guess, yeah, I think it's really important to know where you came from, you know, especially as artists. Everybody has a different style. For me, when I joined the band, my style was a lot different than the other three guys. So I came from a metal background. I played in metal bands before thrash metal, hardcore bands, and a little bit of death metal. So my style is very punchy and fast and. And rocking, you know, so my influences are metallica and Slayer and Exodus and Megadeth. Like, I really love those bands and pantera, and I recognize that. And when we write songs, I recognize that that's kind of my go to. Right. And I know that that can kind of influence the turn of the song or the rhythm of the song or the way that it's gonna make people feel. So I think it's really important to recognize your influences, but it's also important to recognize your influences, not just to be authentic, but to also not copy those artists, because I think if you're too unaware of your influences, you'll actually come out kind of sounding the same as these people that you look up to. Right. So, I think it's really important to know them and to own them. You don't necessarily need to speak up about them, but, you know, these are good opportunities to talk and sit down with people who actually enjoy music and are artists themselves. And you can kind of dive into the artistry of, you know, different bands.
• 34:16
  Speaker A: Because, like, you know, going back to, like, having influences is that, like, nobody is a musician in a fucking vacuum. You know what I mean? Everybody has stuff that they've heard, so, like, you can create your own thing with different ingredients. It's just like a fucking cook. You know what I mean? It's like, you can use the same ingredients or use this ingredient and that ingredient, and it doesn't make it the same.
• 34:43
  Speaker B: Yeah. The cool thing is, is that when you're making a song, your influences can. Can change the song or influence the song, you know, as you will unintentionally or intentionally. Like, I think the way that I write songs is very subconsciously. Like, I'm not consciously thinking of my influences when I'm writing. I'm not consciously thinking of a drum part from a song, from another band when I'm writing. But I think I. I know that it's subconsciously influencing me because those are the songs that I grew up learning how to play drums, right? So it's always gonna be my go to to do this fill or do that or do this drumbeat or. Or want to learn this type of style. And like you said, right? Like, you can make something like you're a cook and it's gonna come out a certain way, but it's gonna come out a certain way that you've been trained. Right, to produce, right. If you make a bunch of pastas from the same cookbook, and then you go. Go on your own and you make your own pasta. You're most likely going to use the ingredients that you used while you were using those cookbooks. Right. Because that's what, you know. Yeah. So it is. It's weird how art is all. It's all kind of intertwined. No matter what you're doing, there's going to be an influence and there's going to be, like, the root from your foundation and learning that's going to come out to the surface.
• 36:04
  Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, that's a good point with, like, the cooking and, like, the. Using the cookbook, because it's teaching you technique. Yeah. You know what I mean? And when you're going back to, like, an influence, you're not ripping them off. You're just saying, hey, that's a neat technique that you were doing. And, you know, using that technique to create your own, you know, your own stuff. Like, you know, I play bass, and I don't play bass, like, your typical bass player, I guess, because I play with a pick and I play, like, usually, like, you know, 16th notes and nothing super technical, but that's like, punk rock. Like, I. You know, I grew up on, like, skate punk shit, and, like, you need.
• 36:42
  Speaker B: To have that attack.
• 36:43
  Speaker A: Yeah. And, like, that's my go to thing. And, like, I try to, like, use it to adapt to, like, our original music, but that's the technique that is coming through most in my shit, you know? So you guys go on tonight. What time do you go?
• 37:01
  Speaker B: We're playing at 09:00, the fucking sweet spot. Oh, yeah. Well, we. We deserve it, I guess, because we got the. The fan favorite last year. So we've actually been playing this festival since almost its inception. I think it was the second year that it was an actual festival. It used to be in a backyard. I heard your interview with Russ, and so used to be in this acreage, and we played there before there was a side stage, and we've been playing almost every year since. And last year we won the fan favorite award, so we had the most people vote for our band in terms of, you know, the band that they. They liked. So, yeah, we got the 09:00 slot for that. And it's an honor, honestly. It's. It's been such a great learning opportunity and a community of growth here with everybody, like, you know yourself here, and there's even more vendors than last year and the year before that I was here. So it's. It's really awesome to be a part of this.
• 37:59
  Speaker A: Yeah. One thing I found, like, with all the vendors, you know, there's a lot of creators here. A lot of people, like, doing podcasts and video stuff. And I can, like, see this in like, another ten years being something that's enormous. You know what I mean? Like, this is the type of vibe and the type of. I mean, I guess go back to the word atmosphere. Like, it's. It's something that's sustainable and is gonna grow because it's, I don't know, magical. Man.
• 38:27
  Speaker B: I think people want this. It's really hard to organize something like this. And everything that is out at this big of a scale is already very huge. And promoting artists that are already on labels and a lot of, you know, they're pushing money at that point. This is not about that. This is about bringing community together. And exactly like you talked with Russ about, it has to start somewhere, right? And he's really starting the spark, him and Val, bringing people together here. And in ten years, I believe it, too.
• 39:00
  Speaker A: Right?
• 39:00
  Speaker B: That's why I'm still here supporting it, too, because it's. It is special. And more and more every year, more people are coming, more vendors are here, there's more artists, there's more talent. There's people from all over North America now. Like, it used to just be. It used to just be Holland landing, right? Like, Dan, our guitar player, is from Holland landing. So that's how we found out about this festival. We were actually at an open mic and I met Russ and, you know, we talked and he's like, yeah, I'm just throwing a festival down the street and now, you know, look where we are. So.
• 39:32
  Speaker A: So let's listen to a cigar club song.
• 39:35
  Speaker B: Sure.
• 39:36
  Speaker A: What do you got for us?
• 39:37
  Speaker B: Yeah, so we just released a new single. It's called rain. And that's what you'll be hearing right now. It's gonna be part of an album that we're dropping in the next few months, I would say. So. Yeah. Enjoy. Hope you like it.
• 39:53
  Speaker A: All right, well, Tyler of Cigar club, I appreciate it. Let's listen to rain. And I will link to your Spotify and socials on the show page so that people can easily find you. I appreciate it, man.
• 40:07
  Speaker B: Thank you so much. If you didn't mind, I.
• 40:43
  Speaker A: Have.
• 40:46
  Speaker B: Today wanna go get you going anyway now if you had the time to say would you try a little more to make it laugh wanna know? Cause I'm loading everything down I choose to spend my day and I'm arriving.
• 42:02
  Speaker A: On now.
• 42:26
  Speaker B: If you didn't want.
• 42:31
  Speaker A: The.
• 42:32
  Speaker B: Way that you didn't mind I took.
• 42:43
  Speaker A: Away all right, we are back we have Devon Cox, fortunate losers. Well, we've actually been hanging out for a bit because we had some, had some power issues and lost power, but we got to hang out and shoot the shit and get to know each other and then powers back up and. And now here we are. So I guess what we want to do is just tell the folks a little bit about fortunate losers.
• 44:12
  Speaker B: Okay, so all you american folk, we really love Americas. We'd like to get down to Americas. We'd love to get down stateside and play some shows, because up here in Canada, our towns are very far and few between. So if you could be so kind and pay our work visa, we will go down and make $0 again, $0 in the states, and we'd love to meet all you beautiful people.
• 44:40
  Speaker A: You know, one thing that I noticed up here is the. The roads. They're the longest, straightest fucking roads that I've ever seen in my entire life. Like, was that what?
• 44:52
  Speaker B: And you got to pay double to drive on them. Here's the thing, and I'm telling you, if you ever come up to where we are from Sudbury, all right, that's about 5 hours. Four or 5 hours north, depending on what you're driving. If you're driving a big bus like we are, it's five fucking hours north of Toronto. But the road, the highway, does not end in this country, I swear to God. Come up to Canada, drive coast to coast, and I'm telling you, you'll pull your fucking hair out.
• 45:19
  Speaker A: Yeah, I did. I came, Brockville, I think, was where I came into from the states and then drove. Yes, it is, it is. And. And that's where I came over the border and then drove the fucking 401, I think.
• 45:36
  Speaker B: Beautiful highway. Yeah, what a beautiful stretch of payment.
• 45:38
  Speaker A: And I was on that first four something hours to make it out here. But I don't know, it was nice, you know, like, it was. It was a good enough drive.
• 45:48
  Speaker B: Toronto, something else, though, man. You come. You come into Canada, and you're expecting, like, fucking moose to just jump in your passenger seat here. But I mean, you come up on Toronto and you're like, shit.
• 45:58
  Speaker A: Well, that was the thing. Like, I've never been to Toronto. I've never seen Toronto. And catching, you know, with the route that I took, I didn't really go.
• 46:07
  Speaker B: Right into you kind of detour.
• 46:09
  Speaker A: I was like, you know, on the northe end of it, but I could see it off in the distance. I was like, jesus Christ, that's fucking massive.
• 46:17
  Speaker B: Well, we have a saying. We have a saying here is Toronto is an hour away from Toronto.
• 46:22
  Speaker A: Fair, dude.
• 46:23
  Speaker B: Because no matter where you're going, no matter if you're going down the fucking streets, gonna take you an hour to get there.
• 46:27
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 46:28
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's true. And now they amalgamated Hamilton and Niagara Falls to be part of the greater Toronto area. Put our population up around 10 million. With the fucking, like, we're right next to Chicago now for the, for the population, for square. Square footage wise.
• 46:46
  Speaker A: And, well, where we are now, we're what, like 45 minutes? Hour.
• 46:49
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you're not too. You're not too far from. You're not too far from Toronto here. Only 40, 45 minutes. But it's like you start to smell what Canada actually smells like here. If you went that north of Barry, then you'd be like, all right, this is what Canada is all about. You know, it's.
• 47:08
  Speaker A: It gets a little more. Yeah, Canadian and Canadians, more canadian.
• 47:12
  Speaker B: Oh, man. Like, I'm telling you, Toronto has changed so much over the last ten years. Like, man, the skyline is scary. Like, because, you know, we're letting a lot of new Canadians in. And that's a whole nother topic, which I'm not gonna get into, but it's fucking. It's different, and I'll say that.
• 47:29
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, I guess we'll stick to the rock and roll.
• 47:32
  Speaker B: Yeah. Full stop.
• 47:35
  Speaker A: So what's the name of the town or the city that you guys are?
• 47:39
  Speaker B: Sudbury.
• 47:39
  Speaker A: Sudbury. And that's north?
• 47:41
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's about three, three or 4 hours north of here. And we're famous for mining nickel. That's what. That's what Sudbury is. It's the biggest nickel mine in the world.
• 47:50
  Speaker A: And, you know, and it was funny, we were saying how, like, far the cities are. Like, like when you get. When you tour, you know, when you. When you play other places, is that just an unreal expect, like, explain twice?
• 48:05
  Speaker B: Like, for example, we play with pop evil a couple years ago up in Thunder Bay, and that was 12 hours from my house. And that's a one off. Twelve fucking hours. I mean, that gives you some sort of perspective. It's. Now, that's an extreme perspective for Ontario. But if you look at a map, I mean, even just to come down here for us, like, it's like five. Five, 6 hours. No average travel for it, for a show. Wow, that's fair.
• 48:31
  Speaker A: Yeah, and. But, you know, you guys travel in style. You got the, you got the bus.
• 48:35
  Speaker B: Yeah, you gotta come check out the bus there.
• 48:37
  Speaker A: I'd love to come check.
• 48:37
  Speaker B: Yeah, I renovated a school bus into, like, a tour bus over Covid. That's what I spent some of my time over Covid doing.
• 48:45
  Speaker A: That's fucking rad. Well, so it looks like another band's getting ready to start up. So before we wrap up though, Devin, do you want to play a fortunate loser song?
• 48:56
  Speaker B: Absolutely. What song you want to hear? Something heavy or something light?
• 48:58
  Speaker A: I want to hear out something fucking heavy. What do you got?
• 49:00
  Speaker B: Ok, you could jam o desire.
• 49:03
  Speaker A: All right, sweet. Let's listen to desire, fortunate losers. Thank you, Devon Cox.
• 49:07
  Speaker B: Thank you very much, Andy, for having me, man. I really appreciate it. So if you ever lose your heart, it's right where you left it. And promise to ever everything. I don't. Don't you forget this. We carry a moment here. Stress beyond our sleeves. We act like we are meant to feel inhuman. Like desperate mannequins.
• 51:19
  Speaker A: Right?
• 51:20
  Speaker B: To lose it all desire. We stay beautiful.
• 52:47
  Speaker A: All right, welcome back. Unsigned five and eight. We're here on site at Gusapalooza, 2024. Music going in the background. And I am here with Andy of the blues emergency. How's it going, man?
• 53:01
  Speaker B: Good, Andy, how you doing?
• 53:02
  Speaker A: Good. It was so easy, you know, we were just saying before we got started remembering everybody's name and I was like, oh, there's one that I will never forget. As soon as you were like, my name's Andy, I'm like, me fucking too.
• 53:14
  Speaker B: We should all be called Andy and make it my life so much easier or more difficult.
• 53:20
  Speaker A: So you guys are playing today, right?
• 53:23
  Speaker B: Yeah, we're headlining today at 08:00 and that's the thing.
• 53:28
  Speaker A: I can. I like all the times of bands that's more confusing to me than names. Like, I'm like, fuck, I don't know what anybody's playing, but you're taking the main stage, which is, you know, as we talk. Right. Right over there, which we're hearing now. But I guess for my listeners, just tell a little bit about the blues emergency.
• 53:48
  Speaker B: Yeah, we're a psychedelic blues rock band with some stoner rock in there as well, too. Based out of Toronto. Been going strong since like, 2012, off and on. Yeah, we've. Over the years of. Yeah, just toured, did. Did the Ontario scene quite a bit, man. And just playing a bunch of shows, doing some opening spots for some. Some touring bands coming in, guys like Philip Sace and Berkle V and playing festivals like these, like Gustopalooza. And we've. We've released our debut record, the machine that came out in 2017. And this past, the past two years, we've been taking a different approach, releasing singles, and found some quite success with our first single, a love Revolution, that actually won best rock performance at the 2024 IPMA Awards in Boston. Took home the trophy for that. And then our newest single, quicksand, has accumulated over 100,000 views on YouTube and counting, and it's done quite well. And we've been strategically releasing them with a great video to accompany it and just kind of spacing them out more and, yeah, doing festivals like this, we played Gustavus. This is our third Gustopalooza. We won the Rising sun award last year and got a headlining spot for this year. So we're stoked to be at the top of the bill this year with all these great acts and, yeah, we're just stoked to be here. It's amazing.
• 55:27
  Speaker A: Now, going back to, like, what you were saying about releasing singles, you know, like, obviously it's a different, like, beast than it is, like, releasing an album. Like, do you find, like, creatively focusing on, like, one song at a time, or do you, like, focus on a batch of songs and then release them as singles? Like, how do you, I guess, differentiate? Because when you do an album, it's like, cohesion is the key, you know?
• 55:53
  Speaker B: Like, right. When we do. When we do an album, like, for instance, the machine, we had a. We had ten or ten or eleven songs that we were working with and cut it down to nine. But, yeah, you kind of have to spread yourself thin a little bit, I guess. And, I mean, you try to make everything as great as possible, but obviously you're on more of a time crunch, right. With one song, you could. You can put your full energy and really kind of hone in on the nitty gritty, you know, and just kind of carve it out properly and give it its due diligence, you know? So I. We've been liking the approach, but we are putting out an ep soon, so we. We have a batch of tunes that we have about ten in the pipeline, but we decided to just kind of chop it down and release a batch at a time. So we're thinking, like two, three singles, then ep kind of deal. So, yeah, we're hitting the studio in the coming month and. And just kind of laying down another four new tracks that will eventually make its way to an ep. But, yeah, we're excited. They're. They're all. They're different. So that for the original fans of the blues emergency, it's definitely a growth into a new direction.
• 57:07
  Speaker A: I love that. And now, just, like, one last kind of question, you know, in talking with some of the other artists, because obviously I'm from the states. I'm from New York state. And I didn't really ever really think about, like, touring in Canada, how fucking far all the, like, major metropolitan areas are away from each other. Like, do you find that that's like a. Something that you have to get over? Like, is that a difficult thing, having them so far?
• 57:35
  Speaker B: Like, I'm not gonna lie. Like, you guys definitely have much better than us, the touring musicians in the US. I mean, you can drive 45 minutes and be in another city, right? Us, you know, you start going province to province, there's a lot of dead space there, and unfortunately racks up some gas costs, right. I myself, I got another project called Black Suit Devil. I've toured across this country multiple times. I just finished a two month tour. And I must say, like, you do a lot of driving, so I'm gonna change it up and start hitting out other areas. Like, for instance, Europe. You know, you go there and again, you're driving half hour and you're in another city. You drive an hour and you're in another country, you know? So it's. It's definitely. You can do a lot more legwork in a short distance, right? So, yeah, you. You Americans are listening out there. Our brothers to the south there. Brothers and sisters to the southe. You guys have a great down there, but. But it's good here, too. You just got to know how to strategically plan it right. And you get better and better at it over the years, you know?
• 58:42
  Speaker A: So, Andy, before we go, we should probably listen to a blues emergency song. So what do you. What do you got for us?
• 58:49
  Speaker B: Yeah, I wanted to play our single that released, we released last year called the Love Revolution that we won best rock performance at the IPMas. Yeah, it's. It's one that we're really proud of. And big, a big shout out to Pete Swan from attitude Productions, who unfortunately passed away. He. He helped us produce the track and made it kick the. Kick the ass, man. And, like. And he really knocked it out of the park. So big shout out to him and Vinnie from blanking on his video production. But our buddy Vinnie, he's got a video production company who did our, our two newest music videos. And he made us look great, man. And so we owe it to those two guys, man, for, yeah, for winning the award and, yeah, big shout out to them. So, yeah, we'll play a love revolution.
• 59:39
  Speaker A: All right, well, let's check out love revolution, the blues emergency. And, Andy, thank you so much for your time, man.
• 59:44
  Speaker B: Our brother, thank you. Keep us divided cause together they feel we'll never break free from the grand illusion join us now it's a love.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker A: Revolution.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker B: Those who speak true.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker A: Inject the masses there's no freedom to choose.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker B: Fell lock down those who refuse break free from the grand illusion join us now into love revolution.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker A: We are back in between bands. Another band getting ready to go, and I'm with postman dance, and we just met, like, fucking two minutes ago. You were signing records. You were giving out free copies of your record. And I came over and was like, hey, I would like one of those. And I was like, you want to come talk? So tell. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Okay. So, I mean, I. This band used to be my life. The do good badly is the DGB. That's the record I'm giving away, which I have right here. We. We toured the country, coast to coast, back and forth for many, many years. We did the circuit, worked our asses off, and, you know, we had a lot of fun. We made a little bit of headway, but it never really went anywhere. Okay. And this is kind of our masterpiece, honestly. We put this record out in 2015. I love this record. The do good badly's electric nights. It's one of my proudest accomplishments that I made this record. But since that, we're not. I'm kind of doing. It's not what I'm doing anymore. Okay. So I do my own thing now. I'm postman Dan. I do solo shows, more of a country rock sound, and I do a radio show called the Po Box radio Show. You can hear it airs on five stations across Canada. It's on pet rock radio, and it airs on four other stations across Canada. A couple fm dials, a couple online stations, and it's archived on Mixcloud. So it's super easy to find the Po box ca.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker B: And f you.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker A: Postman Dan's my. What I'll do even, too, is on this episode, I'm doing, like, a big gus up lose a episode, and I'm going to put show, you know, show notes, and I links to everybody that I've interviewed. So I'll put a link to your radio show there. So, basically, for me, like, this record is something that I'm really proud of. We sold enough of them. Now I just want to get them out there. I don't want to take them to the dump. I want to give them away to people. But my focus now is not really on getting famous anymore. Now I just do my solo shows. I do the music that speaks to me. I'm not really trying to break it big anymore. I'm past that. My passion has always been independent music and people that put their heart into things. So I do my solo show and I do my radio show to promote acts. All right, well, cool. Well, there's another band getting ready to start, and I told you that I wouldn't take up too much of your time. So is there anything that you want to plug or, you know, any place that you can get people to follow you on your socials or anything? Or is the. Well, so my buddy's burning bridges are about to go on stage, so I'll shoot a plug to them. They're a Peterborough band, but a couple originally from Lindsay. Guys in that band, which is my hometown, Lindsay, Ontario. So shout out to burning bridges. And, yeah, I mean, give me a follow. And, Dan, I do my radio show every week, and I'm promoting. If anything goes radio show, I'll play any genre. And I don't just play local independent stuff, but the majority of stuff I play is new canadian music. That's my focus. So after you post me and Dan's me po box radio show. Fuck yeah. Postman Dan, thank you so much for taking time out of your day here at Gustapalooza to talk some shit with me for a little bit. I really appreciate it. And it's. There a song that you want to play? Is there? You want to play anything off of this record or. Oh, you want to play something off the record?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker B: Absolutely.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker A: Do it. Which one you want to play? Well, you know what? This is the song. This is the closest I ever got to getting famous. Okay. I actually got a $500 check from SoCAN for this song. I can't believe, like, I've never got any more than, like, $2 at a time from SoCan, and Socan sent me a $500 check from this song. I thought this was going to be the song that made me make it hash. Fml. Fuck my luck. Do good badlies. All right, let's listen to fml do good badly's postman Dan. Thank you so much. Thank you. 1234.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker B: Went out last night when I.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker A: Should have been home left my baby.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker B: All alone I got up, I went.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker A: Out, I got drunk.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker B: But my love is broken just be able to follow my friend let's do it again, friend let's do it.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker A: Yeah. Stop this bad it can only get.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker B: Worse but it's hard to see when the sex is good. I got up.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker A: I will.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker B: Much let do it again.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker A: My love here we go again. It's just me.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker B: Let's do it again. Fuck my luck.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker A: Here we go, let's do it again. That was FML. The do good badlies. And what I'm going to do right now is I'm just going to play a song from an artist that I actually did not get a chance to talk to while I was at the festival. I have reached out to him since I got back. They blew me away. The band is called Cudbear, and right out of the cave, they come out. The bass player is wearing, like, a fucking, like, a potato sack on his head with, like, xs for eyes, kind of look like an evil scarecrow, and had just the. I mean, he was like the human embodiment of an atomic bomb. Just energy right out of the gate. Like, it literally, like, was like a slap in the face. Like, I could not turn away. Like. And their songs were so great. Like, if they're a three piece and every member of the band held it down to the fucking, like, I don't want to sound like I'm fan boy, but, I mean, I kind of am a little bit. They really, like, struck me as just, like, a band that's gonna go places. And I've been listening to their tunes. They played Friday night, so I was listening to them, you know, all weekend when I'd go back to the Airbnb and in my car and stuff, and I asked them if it'd be cool if I just played a song. And, you know, I should get them on an episode of Unsigned unwind. And, boys, if you're listening, reach out and let's make that happen. But anyway, in the meantime, this is a song by Cudbear. Check them out. It's c U d b E a r. They're on Spotify and everywhere. I, like, definitely just check them out. That's all I'm gonna say now that I've said so much. But here we go with one of my new favorite bands. It's cudbear with phantoms, and it's here on this special edition of unsigned 518, the unsigned unwind.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker B: I'm on my way? The flashing lights on my right through to the other side? I can handle the blood angel, I'll say goodbye? Cause I can't stand the other phantoms? When I arrive there must be some place to hide? I can hear you crying? I will piss you back? Here I am, here I am? I can stand forever? I will fix it. Here I am, here I am. After all this lord is over. After all the sun is blue for you. Help me find my way back home to you? You came to your senses, you left me defenseless. As we all fall to the ground. This is the final test. Burning out inside my chest I can hear you crying and I feel like I'm dying. I will fix you riding here I am, here I am. If I can stay forever and I sweet better weather. I will fix you right in here I am. So special way so.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker A: All right, that was cut. Bear with phantoms. And right now we're going to get into some silliness. Like, when I first got there, there was a couple of booths that Russ, who is the founder of Gusipalooza, he brought me to where my site was going to be, and he was like, listen, there's a couple of booths nearby, dudes, that I really think you're going to, like. You're doing similar things. And he was like, so right. Like, I. You know, I met these guys right out of the gate before I even got my tent set up and was. Before I even knew what they did, I was just like, I really like these dudes. Like, I'm, you know, I got along with them immediately. And so this interview, her interview, I guess this conversation is us. Like, we were having, again, some power issues that. That kind of plagued us throughout the festival, but it was, you know, plagued as a strong word. It was funny, you know, it was like, just roll with the punches and, like, things happen. But. So I got the idea of, hey, I can maybe just use my cigarette lighter in my car, and we can do an interview in there while we don't have power. And so I was like, I started, you know, I went and checked it out, and it worked. You know, it was enough power. So we were back at the booth, and I, like, started my car with my remote starter to cool it down because it was fucking hot. And we went in and got everything going, and, you know, had the air conditioning going. And because I never put the key in the remote starter, it only stays for, like, 15 minutes, and then it shuts off. So, like, halfway through our interview, it shut off. And, like, out of all the power issues and, like, everything, it, you know, this is clearly my fault, but it was just. It was just funny. And we had eaten, me and Mike of it's bad club media that I'm talking about, and they also do bad music club, and it was very confusing, and I kept fucking it up. But Mike and I had eaten not a small amount of edibles in the morning. And this interview was just as I had, you know, like, maybe a half hour hour after I decided that I was gonna make the drive home that day instead of crashing another night. Cause I was like, I feel like I got it in me. And it was just. It was just silliness. And it was like the end of a long weekend. You know, we'd been talking about doing some collaboration stuff. Like, I really want to stay in contact with these dudes and do things going forward because not only are they super cool dudes on a personal level, but I really like what they're doing. So this is going to be my conversation with Mike and Jake of Bad club media. And then after that, I'm going to have my conversation with Dawson and Brent of Pet rock radio, which actually is nothing like a pat rock. Pat is for Peter Burrow, so it's Peter Burrow rock radio. Pat rock radio. But that'll be coming up next. And again, gonna be doing some things with them, for sure, because both of those dudes were just solid. And I've already got scheduled time to talk to Dawson. Cause he's also an accomplished musician, so he's gonna be on unsigned unwind coming up, but definitely gonna be doing stuff with them in the future. But right now, here's, like, a fairly high Andy in my subaru. We dubbed it the Subaru do as, like, a combination between Subaru and studio. But anyway, it's silly, and these guys are fucking great. I hope you like them as much as I do, and I definitely hope you look at the show notes of this episode and follow them bad club media, because they're basically doing what I'm doing. They're taking smaller artists and giving them the exposure that they need to get to where they need to be. And I obviously dig that. So check it out. This is my conversation with Mike and Jake of Bad club media. Sweet. Maybe I'll get some more video. All right, fuck it. I'm rolling now. So this weekend, after some critical emergency action was taken, this weekend has been plagued with power issues. And I thought I had it solved by recording out of my car. And being that I wanted to cool the car down with the air conditioning, I started my car with my remote, car starter, and mid fucking interview, the car shut off, which the last recording.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker B: By the way, listener.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker A: I'm Jake, by the way. Hi, Jake. We'll get to that.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker B: The last recording started with Andy saying how this was the most reliable power source.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker A: Yes. Which he wasn't.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker B: Wrong about. But it was also unreliable.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker A: Just unreliable. I am here in the car, which is now started via key and should stay running. Ac was worth it. Let's fuck that whole last episode. Who cares, right? Just to sit in the ac. But yeah. So I'm here with Mike and Jake of bad club media and bad. No, a bad club music, right? I had it. The first take was so good. All right, it was. And now I'm all flustered. Cause I was looking, like I said when I was looking up the podcast the other night, I looked up bad club music, and it was not what I was looking for, but bad music club, bad club media. Got it.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker A: Sweet. Fucking bad club media music club. Check. So I guess since we have to go back and do everything, like, I'll just start from where I found you. Where I was doing research on Gusipalooza when I was invited up here, which is in the same kind of manner that you were invited up here. I was looking at bands that were playing. I was, like, looking around the area, seeing what was going on, and in my algorithm popped up this thing that just said bands you should know. And it was these adorable little werewolf and a vampire talking. And the banter was great. And I was just like, this is really cool, you know, started, like, digging into it a little. And then on Friday, you know, meeting people, hanging out, and we met. I mean, we hung out for, I don't know, half an hour or something. Then, you know, it was like, oh, you know, by the way, what are you doing? And you're like, oh, yeah, you know, we have this podcast, and I realized who I was hanging out with, and I was like, oh, shit. I guess that's the problem with the.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker B: Niche that we're in. Like, it's really nice that we don't have to put our face all over.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker A: The Internet, but at the same time, nobody knows, right? You could just go totally under the radar. I can do the same thing by just wearing a different colored hat. You know, that's all I gotta do. I show up with a black hat, people be like, who the fuck are you, dude? Totally. But so you have, you know, the podcast, but, like, mostly, like, what I really like, you know, I like the weekly podcast, but, like, the stuff with, like, the animation and the bands, you should know where it's just so quick and succinct and it gives you the information that you need to pursue it a little bit further. You know what I mean? You're basically just saying, hey, here's this band. Here's kind of how big they are. Here's where they're at up now. Go check them out. And I love that format. So who kind of came up with that one?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker B: Yeah. Thanks. First of all. Well, let me tell you, that idea.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker A: I gave him a.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker B: That idea was spawned in the depths of hell after a bender of 42 days.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker A: No, Jay came up with that.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker B: Yeah, I get.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker A: Well, you know what? Basically what I was trying to do was figure out an easy way to.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker B: Post to social media and a reliable way.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker A: Instead of having to go through my.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker B: Freaking podcast and find clips, why don't.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker A: We just intentionally make clips?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker B: And that's what we started doing. And, yeah, it became kind of our niche. And it's so freaking.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker A: It's so much fun to do, like, doing the research before episodes. When we're doing these.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker B: These bands, you should know that's the.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker A: Fun shit, because you know what? Like, these bands are so.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker B: They're. They're always so thankful. Oh, that's.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker A: It makes it so worthwhile. Hear back from them and do you have, like, a certain region that you pull from, or do you just kind of any, like, smaller local band? Like, any band under 10,000 listeners will do? We do bands from all over the world.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker B: Yeah, 10,000 monthly listeners on Spotify.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker A: It seems like we get. Most majority of our bands are from Ontario and area surrounding areas.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker B: Yeah, I think Winnipeg stuff, BC stuff.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker A: Calgary.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker B: We're finding these cool fucking pockets all. Yeah, Montreal, Winnipeg. Calgary's fucking sick.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker A: Australia is fucking killing it.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker B: Even though we have no listeners in Australia. But we cover your music all the time. Yeah, we were just. We were just looking at last night. There's fucking. We. We've. We're hitting Tajikistan. We love you.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker A: We're hitting five continents.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker B: Australia, we've talked about probably.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker A: Well, not the most, I guess, Canada, North America, but Australia, fuck, they've got so much good music.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker B: And, yeah, not a single listener. I don't know how to get there.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker A: That's okay. We don't know.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker B: But what?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker A: Start using, like, hashtag Silverchair, and then everybody from Australia will flock to it. Oh, yeah. We even did an episode in Australia. An episode.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker B: But anyways, yeah, we love doing it.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker A: It's absolutely a joy and a passion to do. Lifting these bands up and getting the eyes on them, that's the most important thing to us. For whatever reason. It just, like, feels so good inside to do it, and I love doing.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker B: It, and it's kind of like, you.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker A: Know, when you get to share new music or something, you really love to your friends. We get to fucking do that every week and every single day to whoever wants to listen. And it's just awesome, man. Yeah. And, like, so I've been doing some.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker B: Boosting of posts and shit like that, right? And I was thinking about it, and.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker A: I was talking to Quinville, producer Quinville, by the way, was shout out Quinville about this. And. And I said, it's.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker B: It's kind of funny because I'm paying to just talk about.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker A: To show people about it.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker B: This cool band that I found, which is just insane when you actually think about it, but it, like, yeah, it's.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker A: So worth it because this weekend has made it worth it.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker B: It. Well, and that's how we got here.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, we were talking before on the. The warm up. The warm up interview, which was good, which is great. I'm struggling for material. It was comedy gold, you know, I.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker B: Forgot what I told you.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker A: We were saying, like, you know, I think, like, because, like, what you're doing and what I'm doing, even though there are a distance away, they're the same thing. And I think we should, like, work on an ongoing collaboration between us and. Because if you do, like, a big circle around where you are and a big circle around where I am, as far as a touring band goes, there's a lot of overlap, so we could just build that network. Yeah. And that's another thing that we've been. It's not just bands that we've been.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker B: Connecting with now, like promoters we're talking to.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker A: There's artists, venues, different festivals, like Gus Palooza.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker B: We're coming at you from Guspalooza right now, by the way.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker A: I don't even know if we mentioned that. Yeah, it's gonna be on the whole up, the whole episode. Okay.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Stick here, man.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker A: It is fun as hell, and the people are awesome. We're so happy and humbled to be here.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker A: And so if we can be a connection. What's it called when you're the ladies.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker B: That change the cords on the phone? We can be switchboard operators. Hey, I'm happy with that.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker B: Mike doesn't like.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker A: It's 2024, dude. I don't need.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker B: Oh, right. A directory, then.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker A: Is that okay?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker B: Yeah, sure.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker A: Yes, yes.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker B: I fully am on board with whatever Jake says.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker A: Thanks, man. That's right.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker B: We got each other's background here. All right.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker A: Anyways, yeah. Anything that we can do to help.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker B: That'S what we want to do.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker A: And fucking. That includes you my dude. Yeah. And we can't wait to do some more stuff. You have not heard the last of us.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker B: No.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Like, I'm excited to do stuff and, like, excited to show you, like, some of the bands that we have and, like, check out, you know, more of the bands that you have. And then if, you know, I start talking to the bands up here, and you start talking to the bands, like, again, it's just the word community kept coming up here because, like, everybody here, like, immediately, it was like, oh, cool. Like, this is not just a music, you know what I mean? Like, this is, like, bringing people together to do real life shit, which I love. And everybody here is so committed to their art. Everyone is passionate and are in, all in. Nobody here is fucking around. Somebody said, I don't remember exactly who it was. Maybe the boys from Kojak, but they're.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker B: Like, this is a.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker A: This is like a rock and roll trade show. Yeah, it really. It really is. You know, because all the booths, you know, you looked around, and it was just like, everybody was, like, broadcasting live and doing podcasts and meeting each other and trading business cards and, like, it was fucking rad. It was fucking rad. Shout out. Thank you, Russ. Thank you, Val Helm. Thank you to all the bands that we've got to interact with. Thank you to all the vendors and volunteers and just fucking thanks for. It was pretty much the smoothest weekend, you know, because I was nervous coming all the way up here by myself and, like, yeah, man, I can't believe you made the trek. That is legendary. Seriously, you are on a pedestal in my mind forever for doing this. Like, holy shit, that's a trek, man. Yeah, I'm gonna do it again in a couple hours, you know? But you're grinding away, man.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker B: That's what it's all about, grinding.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker A: But you know what it's funny is I'm excited that instead of driving tomorrow, I'll have the day off tomorrow and I'm gonna edit up this podcast together. You know what I mean? Like, so I'm just, like, I'm excited to have free times that I can work. You know? I'll be working. So here's the thing.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker B: Now.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker A: Now. So you've blown us out of the.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker B: Water by doing the track. You're gonna blow us out of the water by getting the content out before us.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker A: Maybe this isn't a partnership that we. So he's just gonna make us look.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker B: Bad at every turn.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker A: Yeah, actually, that's fine.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker B: I'm okay with that.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker A: Yeah, no, but once we're collaborating, I'll be making you look good every turn. You know what I mean? We already are partners now, buddy. Like I said, you have not seen the last of us. No, definitely not. To do lots of stuff together. It's gonna be fun.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker B: And thanks to.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker A: Thanks to Russ, and I'm blanking on Val. Okay.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker B: Thanks to Russ and Val, we are.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker A: Part of the exact same community now.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker B: And we've been brought together, and that's.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker A: Where Russ and Val are just fucking heroes of the music scene. Yes. Thanks. And so are you guys. And I think everybody should go listen to your episode that you did with Russ about gussip. Lose it to, like, hear the parallel to my. You know, as I was listening to yours, I was like, this is almost the same as mine. Like, you know, the way he reached out, the way he was, like, I like what you're doing. And the way you guys were just like, fuck it. We're in. You know, you. You guys are on the same pedestal as if I'm on any pedestal. You're right there with me because, like, we're doing the same thing. Like, yeah, absolutely. That's what this festival has done, is brought everybody that are on the same wavelength, like, like minded people all together. 100%. Really has 100%. Anyways, you could. Yeah, there's.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker B: You can always find us at our link tree.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker A: Spotify, Instagram, bad club media, and I will on this episode in the show notes. I'll make sure to link to. To your stuff so that anybody listening can just scroll down and find it. So, Jake, Mike. Bad club. Wait. Bad club. Media. Bad club.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker B: Media man.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker A: Bad music club. Michael Maslin out, baby. Thanks for listening.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker B: Andy Scullin. Andy Scullin.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker A: All right. Hopefully the power stays on. So I'm here with Dawson and Brent of pet rock radio. How's it going? Hey.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker B: Doing all right, man.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker A: Thank you. And we actually met, like, right when. Like, before my tent was even set up, like, because we were.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker B: We watched you walking onto site. Yeah.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker A: Yes. And then Russ was like, hey, you know, you. You'll. You'll like these guys. And set me up right next to you. And I was like, fucking sweet. And I do dig you guys. So I. Thanks. So I saw the pork piles.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker B: It's gonna be cool. I like this guy.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker A: So I think what I would like to do is introduce my listeners to pat, rock radio, and, Brent, you were one of, like, the co founders.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker B: Correct. Way back in the day, 2013, we started it. Yeah. It was myself and my buddy Jason Bullman, whom we've been lifelong friends and bandmates since we could talk. Yeah, we started this radio station. It's kind of a funny story, actually, because I had always wanted to be in radio, but I never pursued it, like, went to school or anything. Never, like, you know, thought, oh, I'm actually going to be in radio. It was just something I always enjoyed. And it was a night of drinking a lot of beer at my place one night, and Jason and I were talking about the music scene. And in Peterborough, Ontario, there's an amazing music scene. We honestly think there's something in the water because there are so many uber talented musicians, so many great acts that have come out of Peterborough that that's the reason I moved to Peterborough was for the music scene in the early nineties, because I was an up and coming musician and I was like, Toronto is so far out of my league. I'm like, Peterborough is where it's at. Like, there was so many acts happening. There still is. I really think it's revitalizing again. But, yeah, huge. Huge. So, anyways, we were drinking some beers one night. Night, and we were like, you know what? Yeah, you know, we got to do something about the music scene. We get, you know, I just. Oh, it'd be awesome to do. There's, like, these Internet radio stations. You could, like, we could start one up. It'd be awesome. And so Jay posed the question. He's like, well, what would you do if we ran a radio station and I just started laying out basically our mission statement of what our radio station would be like? We would pump the local music scene, but at the same time, we would bring out new corporate music as well in the alternative underground and the mainstream alternative as well. If it had any sort of musical integrity, we would push that as well so that you could have, like, a local band on there. And then, you know, you hear Beastie boys next or whatever. Right. And if you don't mind the analogy. Yeah. You're a high end club act that plays mostly originals, but then peppers in really popular covers. Okay, I like that. I like that. Yeah, yeah, that's in radio form. Yeah. Pirate radio form. In a way. That's. That's pretty much it. Yeah. And we. So we were talking about it, and then he left, and I was like, okay, whatever. And I went to bed. I was trying to go to bed, and literally an hour or so later, he texts me and he's like, check this out. And there's a link. And I'm like, he's still doing up, man. Like, okay, all right. So I click it, and it was a private link to a website he built. And it was very rudimentary because he just, you know, he was drunk and he threw it together and, you know, and, yeah, it was just this WordPress site. And he's like, yeah, radio station. He's like, we just got to figure out how to do it, but we can. He's like, I bought the domain. He's like, you came up with the name pet rock radio, which is actually Peterborough rock radio. And he's like, I got us Petrockradio ca. And I'm like, okay, so we're doing this. And like, twelve days later we went live and we've been on for eleven years.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker A: Wow. And so what's the process of, you know, because, I mean, I worked in radio, but I worked, you know, I worked at an independent station, but I mostly worked for like, you know, corporate radio, whatever. But like, what's the process of getting the music to play and, you know, figuring out what software that, you know, to run it or what, you know what I mean? Like, it's interesting to me, like, as someone who was in fucking radio for so long, to be like, wait eleven days from idea, like, what it was.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker B: It was a lot of trial and error because we had no idea what we were doing. We thought we knew how radio should sound because we grew up in the era of you would tape the radio.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker A: To get you, because we're in the.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker B: Same age back, so you'd be waiting for your favorite song. But it got to the point where I just let my cassette player go and record, and I'd record like the entire, like, american top 40. And I'd record like, there was a grey station out of Buffalo Rock 102 when I was growing up. And I used to listen to that. And there was also a 102.1 in Toronto, which is still going. It's now the edge. It was CFMY would play this stuff that I didn't hear on all these other stations, right. So I'd record these stations and more that. I mean, I listened to the songs and loved it, but more than that, I was listening to the transition between the segments.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker A: The Segways.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker B: Yeah, the segues where the talent would come in on air and then they do a little bit and then it went into commercial. And as I had it so down pat when I was a kid, that I could almost tell you what they were going to say on the morning show because it was so formulaic. But I'm like, okay, let's take this formula, but not script it. That's what radio should be. And then I realized later that. Oh, shit, that's college radio.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker A: Yeah. That's tough. Yeah. Radio does have to be succinct. Like. And do you have advertisers, like, on the station?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker B: We do, we have. We were doing local advertising, which we do. Some. Any local businesses in the Peterborough area we give basically free advertising for. Because we want to pump up, you know, the mom and pop companies.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker A: And do you produce the commercials yourself?
• 1:37:53
  Speaker B: We do, we do. But that doesn't keep the light on.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker A: Right.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker B: So what we do is I'm a bit of an entrepreneur, so I set up a company which basically buys the license to run corporate ads. Basically that you would hear on national satellite feed. Yeah. And so then we collect what would work best for our region and it's updated every week. And then we sound like a real radio station.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker A: Cause I remember doing terrestrial radio. It was always like, you had to hit commercials at like the fucking second. You know what I mean? And if you missed it, you had to, like, write down why you missed it and then you had to put it in the next break and it was like a whole big thing. But, like, commercials had to hit at this time. Everything was like, time. And do you have to adhere to, like, that kind or can you.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker B: Well, it's not that restrictive. No, because we're. So we run. And I try to keep much more music than commercial cut ins because it's about the music. So we have advertising blocks at the top and bottom of every hour. So, you know, at like 09:00. 930. And it's no more than five minutes. Okay. And that's it. And then for the next half hour you're getting us and music.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker A: And I think anybody who's like, getting something of that value for free understands that, like, absolutely. The price of admission is a couple minutes of advertising every once in a while.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker B: Yeah. And that's it. Right. And so if we have our commercial break set, you know, to come on at like 09:30 a.m. say. And it's. It's 927. But the song just started and it's a four minute song. Right. That's fine.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker B: You know, we have a little. The software we run now, which is produced by Radiojar, which is out of the Netherlands, great online software. Really easy to use. We do pay for it. It's well worth it. And it allows us to broadcast from anywhere because it's all in the cloud. It's all online. And. And that but it gives us a little ticker countdown and we can set it to whatever regulation we want. So basically what we do so that we don't go too long without putting the ads in is I have a 20 minutes marker. So once it hits 930 say and the cluster of ads is supposed to start and the song's still going, there's a countdown for 20 minutes. And if that song's not over in the next 20 minutes or whatever files playing in the next 20 minutes, it's automatically going to cut in, which never happens. So when I have, like, Dawson is going to. He's producing a podcast which we're going to be airing on Petrock very soon. And so I told him, I said, I need it in like, 19 or 20 minutes. You know, gotta be less than 20 minutes. It comes in, and then we have our little break and the station id and then, you know, and it sounds seamless and, you know, so really you can't tell what time it is by listening to our station because it's not always right at the top or bottom of the hour, you know, and we try not to do too many live time sensitive cut ins because, I mean, we're not really guerrilla radio. We're somewhat structured, but at the same time, we're not uptight about it. We want to keep it free flowing like music should.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker A: It's authentic.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker B: Authentic, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker A: And so, Dawson, why don't you. You know, we talked a little bit about your podcast yesterday, but why don't you talk a little bit about what you got going on there?
• 1:41:32
  Speaker B: Sure. So I'm mostly interviewing musicians. The show is roughly an hour long. Sometimes goes a little over, sometimes a tiny bit under. But the only stipulation that Brent gave me, really, was that it has to be able to be split up into three, roughly 20 minutes segments so that it's not interfering. And every question I had about. Because, you know, sometimes when you get asked to put something out on someone else's platform, you have concerns. But every concern I got was essentially washed away. Every question I asked, he's like, you can do that? Yeah, you have to worry about it. It's fine. Go. So I was like, do I. I get to pick the guests? Yes, of course. Pick whoever you want. Do they have to be musicians? Only because I have other interests? No. Anybody that you think would be interesting, do that. Okay. Do I own the rights to what I put out? Yeah. If I give you guys the exclusive, can I air it elsewhere? Because I want to have a video component. Can I put it on YouTube? Yeah, you can do that.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker A: Can we swear? Yeah.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker B: Yeah, you can swear. I was like, where do I sign?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker A: Basically be like, oh, you don't have to sign.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker B: Exactly. It's like, do you want to just, you know, shake hands or high. Let's just high five on it.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker A: I was like, and so is that gonna be something that's gonna air at, you know, at a time, or is it gonna be something that you can go back and listen to later, or is it gonna be. You have to tune in at this time to catch.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker B: So if you want to catch it live, it's Fridays. At Fridays. At Fridays at 08:00 p.m. yeah. And there will be a second airing. We're still figuring out, but yes. And then if you do miss it, the week after. So pet rock is going to take the. The exclusive airing of it, the quote unquote live airing, and then the week after, I'm going to release it on.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker A: All the other streaming platforms, archive versions going forward, that you can find elsewhere.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker B: I have personal Spotify and Apple music and all that kind of stuff where I post my own music. I'm gonna put the podcast up there as well after the fact. So Petrock will get it the week before, and then the archive will come out the week after. Also, if you want the video version the week after, it'll be archived on YouTube.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker A: That's awesome.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker B: And so it's mostly a chat show, not even necessarily about the creative process, but probably. And then if it is a musical guest, sometimes we jam afterwards. Sometimes it's the band's performance. Sometimes we just hug and go our merry way. Every episode is very different. And it. It ranges from musicians to MMA fighters to screenwriters to actors to poets. Doesn't really. You could be a chef if you're a badass. I want to talk to you. You interest me.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker A: That's awesome. And what's the name of the show?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker B: Oh, sorry. The show is called 646. It is named after the address of my parents house when I was a kid, where I learned how to be a musician. We had this super weird, almost borderline hippie commune in their basement, where every single weekend, there would be at least four bands playing. Kind of like a private home show in the basement, but we would have people with easels set up painting or writing poetry. Or we had a lightboard built so that even if you weren't a musician, you could still be a part of the jam, as it were. And that's why I wanted to call the show 646 after that house, because that's where you came to learn how to be creative.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker A: Awesome. And I will on this episode because I'm doing. I'm going to do like. This is going to be part of, like, a big gossip lose a mega episode. I'm going to take all the interviews that I've done over the weekend. I got permission from all the bands to play their music, everybody that I interviewed. So it's gonna be a big mega episode. But I'll link to Pat rock radio in the show notes so that people can easily find it. And we should maybe. Maybe talk about doing some collabs in the future. We'll stay in. Stay in touch because I love what you guys are doing. I love. This whole festival has just been for this reason right here. You know what I mean? Even if it was just a convention, without music, it would have been worth.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker B: Right? Right.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker A: Every mile.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker B: The community here is amazing. You know, we were even. Even this morning, I think we confirmed how amazing the community was. Dawson lost his wallet. And can we swear on your podcast?
• 1:45:57
  Speaker A: Yeah, of course.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker B: Okay. That's awesome. Fuck. Dawson lost his wallet. And it has. It has a quote from pulp fiction says, bad motherfucker.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker A: Yeah, right.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker B: There it is. There it is. Leather wall. It.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker A: He lost it, made its way back to you.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker B: And you should tell the story because so lost it. Went looking for it. Stuck my head in the Lawson, found nobody was there. Dude comes out of the porter potty. He goes, you lose something? I was like, yeah, I lost the leather wallet. Says bad motherfucker on it. He reaches in his pocket and he's like, this is yours. I was like, oh, my God. And he's like, I'm so glad that it says batmobile on a car, because.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker A: Otherwise it would have just been a black wallet. Yeah.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker B: He said, now I don't like opening people's wallethood wallets to find out whose it is.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker A: Right?
• 1:46:36
  Speaker B: Like, not. Nothing's missing, right?
• 1:46:39
  Speaker A: Yeah. And it's been so good. Like, when I was leaving at night, you know, like, I was just collapsing the tent, but, like, leaving all my lights and shit, like, in there. And I was like, that's fine. You know, come back in the morning, pop the tent up. It's fine. Like, I didn't. You know, just. The whole vibe was just fucking amazing up here, man. I really dug it. All right, well, cool. Well, we're gonna get back to the episode, and I'm actually probably fairly shortly gonna get. Or get in my car. I'm gonna get back into the car that I'm sitting in right fucking now and drive back to New York. So I want to thank you so much, Dawson and Brent of Pet rock radio, so much.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker A: And again, I'll link to the show in the show notes so that, you know, my. My people can check out the station and what you're doing. I think it's really fucking cool.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker B: Thanks, man. It's been a real pleasure hanging with you.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely, man.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker B: Cool. Thank you so much. Andy. Andy Scullin.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker A: Andy. All right. And that is it on my recap of Gusapalooza 2024. It was such a great weekend. Again, it was an eight hour drive out on Friday morning, and it seems like, in my head, like, that's crazy. But it was. It was a nice drive. It was fine. The drive home was fine. But my point is, is that I feel like next year I would really like to, you know, plan something. Like my wife and I. Katie has already said that she'll come with me next year. You know, we're already making plans. I'm probably going to try to get, you know, the same Airbnb or at least through the same people, and I. And get up there, and I would really like to get some other people to come with me. Like, you can camp. You know, there's camping on the premises, there's tons of Airbnbs around, and it's just a cool place. And if you're in the industry or do something, you know, to do with local music or the arts, then it's really great, because I've never seen anything like that. It was basically, if it was just a convention of like minded creatives that are focusing on local and unsigned music, that would have been worth it, because it was, you know, the hanging. But to just have, like, this amazing festival going on, this great music where you could literally watch a band and be blown away by them and then just, you know, 20 minutes after their set is done, you're sitting down with them and talking to them and getting an interview. The other people that I met, you know, like I said, mike and Jake and Brent and Dawson and, you know, everybody that I met, all the musicians and, you know, Russ and Val, are just amazing. And what they do, the. The blood, sweat and tears that they put into helping local and unsigned bands get to where they want to be is, you know, you can't put, I guess, like, a value on that. It's immeasurable. It's so much. And as someone who, you know, kind of does, like, the same thing, to see the scale that they're doing at it or doing it at is inspiring, you know, and I just want to. It's just making me want to do more and more to help local bands that want to get to a higher level or a regional level or a national level or. Or more, you know? And I guess you that are listening are a huge part of it, too. So, you know, thank you definitely for listening and sharing this and helping spread the word, because, you know, it's. It's about to get bigger. I've met a bunch of friends in Canada that are not that far away from us, so, like, you know, with our circle and their circle, there's gonna be tons of overlap, and let's just grow this. So thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. I really appreciate it. I love you all. I am Andy Scullen. This is unsigned 518, the unsigned unwind, and I'll see you on the road. Unsigned 518 is produced and hosted by me, Andy Scullen. New episodes are available every week wherever you stream podcasts. If you would like to help support the show, please like and subscribe wherever you you are listening. Or you could buy me a coffee@buymeacoffee.com. unsigned 518 if you would like to advertise on the show, send me an email at unsigned five one eightmail.com. and to be a guest on the show, reach out to me through Instagram at Unsigned 518. Take care of one another, and I'll see you next week.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker B: Andy Scullin, our channel.