Latest / Brian Thomas / Extended Smithervent -- 4/6/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And it's seven five at fifty five KERCV talk station
- 0:19Speaker 1: at the Monday. Normally i'd be saying coming up in
- 0:23Speaker 1: the next segment, former Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
- 0:25Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman in the segment we call the Smither Event,
- 0:28Speaker 1: would be coming out. But no, he's in studio right now,
- 0:31Speaker 1: just tracking around vacation. He thought it would be a
- 0:32Speaker 1: great idea to get Christopher in studio for a couple hours.
- 0:35Speaker 1: We can talk about all the craziness going on in
- 0:37Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati and elsewhere. So welcome back, my friend. It
- 0:41Speaker 1: is always a pleasure of seeing you and having you
- 0:42Speaker 1: in studio. This is a real delight this morning. But
- 0:44Speaker 1: you get a nice easter, man, I did man, happy
- 0:46Speaker 1: Easter to you. Had a great easter.
- 0:50Speaker 2: You know.
- 0:50Speaker 1: The weather's a little cold out there, a little bit
- 0:52Speaker 1: little bit, but I can handle it.
- 0:54Speaker 3: You can handle it, you know. My thought this morning
- 0:57Speaker 3: is to start with Chief Stiji. It's a little personal
- 1:01Speaker 3: because I worked with Chief DG. This isn't somebody that
- 1:04Speaker 3: I don't know. I was the former vice mayor of
- 1:06Speaker 3: the City of Cincinnati. I was Chair of Law and
- 1:09Speaker 3: Public Safety. She was in command staff. So this is
- 1:12Speaker 3: somebody that I know I worked with, and this You know,
- 1:18Speaker 3: when people say, well Chief DG did this or Chief
- 1:21Speaker 3: CGI did that, you know you're not going to always agree, Brian,
- 1:25Speaker 3: with any administrator, of course not. So that's not what
- 1:28Speaker 3: this is about.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Well, of that.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Report that came out from the law firm that was
- 1:32Speaker 1: hired to find a reason to justify her being placed
- 1:35Speaker 1: on administrative leave, sure handpicked and picked and chose specific statements,
- 1:40Speaker 1: none of which were positive. And we learned from russ
- 1:42Speaker 1: Neville Police Chief DG's brother that she had talked to
- 1:45Speaker 1: some of the people who were interviewed by the law
- 1:46Speaker 1: firm and they in fact did have some positive things
- 1:49Speaker 1: to say, some negative of course. But why is that
- 1:52Speaker 1: report that came out so filled with just pure negativity.
- 1:55Speaker 1: There wasn't a positive word said about DG in there,
- 1:58Speaker 1: with the exception of her own words.
- 2:00Speaker 3: The professionals out there, Brian, who are listening, and people
- 2:05Speaker 3: who are blue collar workers who are listening. And the
- 2:09Speaker 3: reality of it is, we know politics on our job.
- 2:11Speaker 3: You know, oh you're on your job, they're politics, right,
- 2:14Speaker 3: So here was a report to bury her. First she
- 2:18Speaker 3: was a scapegoat. Then they hire Frost Brown and Todd
- 2:22Speaker 3: to bury her right, And the reality of it is,
- 2:26Speaker 3: she's still on administrative leave. They're still paying her for
- 2:29Speaker 3: a reason. If they had a reason to separate and terminate,
- 2:33Speaker 3: they wouldn't be paying her full time salary right now.
- 2:37Speaker 1: And they also would have said the reason at the
- 2:38Speaker 1: time they put her on administrative to leave or fired
- 2:41Speaker 1: her if they'd have fired her. So you know, you
- 2:43Speaker 1: got to you have to have a reason to fire
- 2:45Speaker 1: otherwise you end up in deployment lawsuits. You know, former
- 2:47Speaker 1: Chief Washington, the Fire department knows all about that.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Not on and so thirty five years of service by
- 2:55Speaker 3: Chief thig Brian, not one written reprimand thirty five years
- 3:00Speaker 3: so there's nothing in her file. Meaning again to those
- 3:04Speaker 3: who are listening, I worked with at that time Colonel Fiji.
- 3:09Speaker 2: So this is a professional.
- 3:11Speaker 3: She has family members that are still serving in the profession,
- 3:15Speaker 3: the Neville family, meaning's she's Chief Fiji. But her maiden
- 3:19Speaker 3: name is Neville. Right, So I don't remember how many years,
- 3:23Speaker 3: but I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say one
- 3:25Speaker 3: hundred and fifty or one hundred and sixty one years.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Last week Russell was on the show and if you
- 3:29Speaker 1: can get a chance to listen to rush to Russ.
- 3:31Speaker 1: He did a great job defending her. He's kind of
- 3:33Speaker 1: like the spokesperson for the Fiji family while they go
- 3:36Speaker 1: through this third generation. That's three generations in law enforcement.
- 3:41Speaker 1: So it doesn't shock me that the collective service from
- 3:44Speaker 1: the Neville family is one hundred and fifty plus years.
- 3:46Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
- 3:47Speaker 3: And Brian, what I would say is if I were
- 3:50Speaker 3: the mayor and I wanted to change horses, meaning you
- 3:54Speaker 3: might not have liked that John Cranley made this pick
- 3:57Speaker 3: in their minds. This is maybe somebody the same when
- 4:00Speaker 3: we talk about Chief Washington, the former administration chief Fiji.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Is a professional. So what you do is you sit
- 4:07Speaker 3: down and you say, I'm thinking about hitting in a
- 4:09Speaker 3: different direction. You've got thirty five years you're in drop
- 4:13Speaker 3: your grandma, you got six or seven grandchildren. It's not
- 4:17Speaker 3: like it's not like she's going, hey man, I'd like
- 4:19Speaker 3: to stay around another ten years.
- 4:21Speaker 2: True.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Right, So you sit down and you say, as a professional,
- 4:24Speaker 3: how do we move this along with dignity? Maybe you
- 4:28Speaker 3: need to go get a lawyer, negotiate something that's favorable.
- 4:32Speaker 3: But here's what you don't do You don't just have
- 4:35Speaker 3: her fly into a conference with all the chiefs in
- 4:38Speaker 3: the whole country and then just say you're fired.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Bring your butt back.
- 4:44Speaker 3: And then as she turns and looks at the news
- 4:46Speaker 3: she's watching as she's traveling back, Chief Thigi's been fired.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Chief Thigi's been fired. The reality of it is, what
- 4:53Speaker 3: they've done is they've placed her in a terrible situation
- 4:56Speaker 3: that if she wanted to get a job somewhere else
- 5:00Speaker 3: in the private sector, Let's say she wanted to go
- 5:02Speaker 3: out and work at Lunkin Airport, Let's say she wanted
- 5:04Speaker 3: to work for a CEO of some company.
- 5:08Speaker 2: These types of reports.
- 5:09Speaker 3: In the things that they're doing, and I'm not a lawyer,
- 5:12Speaker 3: they just seem like they're very punitive, and it seems
- 5:15Speaker 3: like she's going to be able to litigate and say,
- 5:18Speaker 3: there's nothing in my file. I've never been reprimanded, what
- 5:22Speaker 3: was your reason for termination? And again she has an
- 5:25Speaker 3: employment lawyer. I would expect the city of Cincinnati is
- 5:28Speaker 3: going to settle this case for millions of dollars. And
- 5:31Speaker 3: the last comment I'll make Brian, who pays the bill.
- 5:35Speaker 3: The taxpayers of Cincinnati will pay this bill. It will
- 5:37Speaker 3: not be surel long, it will not be mayor actable
- 5:42Speaker 3: pure vault.
- 5:43Speaker 2: It will be the citizens of Cincinnati.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Yeah, and it certainly sounds like you're on the right track.
- 5:49Speaker 1: I can't fire her. They would have to settle the
- 5:53Speaker 1: whole thing. I just can't see any other reason around it.
- 5:56Speaker 1: But you know, the other component of it is and
- 5:58Speaker 1: she was never brought in and even sat down and
- 6:01Speaker 1: talked to about the alleged problems they had, or the
- 6:06Speaker 1: various members of the CINCINNT Police Department contingent apparently were
- 6:09Speaker 1: unhappy with her as chief. Thirty two people in the
- 6:13Speaker 1: report that were interviewed out of almost a thousand total
- 6:16Speaker 1: potential witnesses or people who could have offered their thoughts
- 6:19Speaker 1: and comments on it. It just seems suspiciously small segment.
- 6:23Speaker 1: And it also seems suspicious that I am certain you
- 6:26Speaker 1: could go into the police department and find someone who
- 6:28Speaker 1: couldn't say anything but positive things about Chief Thiji.
- 6:33Speaker 3: So and if you wanted to know, you could have
- 6:36Speaker 3: easily done a evaluation or survey to the entire police department.
- 6:42Speaker 2: And they do that from time hundred percent.
- 6:44Speaker 3: They do, Brian, and no way to know where those
- 6:47Speaker 3: comments and feedback are coming from.
- 6:49Speaker 2: So you do this anonymously. Yeah, they picked a specific.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Number of people and why So it looks incredibly suspicious?
- 6:57Speaker 2: Are my part?
- 6:58Speaker 3: Frost, Brown and Todd waste of money? I don't know
- 7:01Speaker 3: how much they ultimately paid for it. It was like fifty
- 7:05Speaker 3: here's fifty thousand dollars to buried chief Diji and come
- 7:08Speaker 3: up with some broad reason of why they terminated her.
- 7:11Speaker 2: I think your point you made was most important.
- 7:14Speaker 3: No one ever sat her down and ever had a
- 7:16Speaker 3: conversation with her about it.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Well, I asked for us about that ago a normal protocol,
- 7:20Speaker 1: you know, if they've got a problem. I said, would
- 7:22Speaker 1: that have triggered at performance review? And he said no,
- 7:26Speaker 1: but at least would have got somebody give me. You
- 7:28Speaker 1: sit down and you're going to talk to the city
- 7:30Speaker 1: manager about this. They're going to sit down and say, hey,
- 7:32Speaker 1: we've got these these things have been identified to us
- 7:34Speaker 1: as a problem. What's going on? You need an action plan,
- 7:38Speaker 1: you need to do something. It sounds like a performance review,
- 7:40Speaker 1: but at minimum you have a conversation instead of down.
- 7:42Speaker 2: She got nothing.
- 7:43Speaker 1: And again you go back to her thirty five years
- 7:45Speaker 1: of service and she's got a clean employment record.
- 7:48Speaker 3: So and that's from patrol all the way up through
- 7:51Speaker 3: the colonel, all the way as the chief.
- 7:54Speaker 2: She has nothing.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Well, And going back to the reputational harm, I think
- 8:00Speaker 1: you can put a point an exclamation point on that
- 8:02Speaker 1: based upon what has happened to former fire Chief Washington
- 8:06Speaker 1: since he was I would say wrongfully terminated. Now that
- 8:09Speaker 1: remains to be seen in the court of law, but
- 8:11Speaker 1: by all indications, it sounds like someone's going to be
- 8:13Speaker 1: writing from the city a big fat check the Chief Washington.
- 8:16Speaker 1: But when he's gone out into the world, him being
- 8:19Speaker 1: terminated is a black cloud hanging over his head. It
- 8:23Speaker 1: is an impediment to him getting a job one hundred percent.
- 8:25Speaker 3: And I can say that Chief Washington was searching for employment,
- 8:31Speaker 3: was a finalist in at least one area in our country,
- 8:35Speaker 3: and this situation cost him the opportunity for that job.
- 8:40Speaker 3: And so the reality you're you're hitting right on this,
- 8:42Speaker 3: Attorney Brian Thomas, this is a big one. I think
- 8:46Speaker 3: that Chief Washington is going to get a bigger check.
- 8:49Speaker 3: I just believe that he had thirty plus years of
- 8:53Speaker 3: service and yet again no reprimands, nothing in his file,
- 8:58Speaker 3: and the way they terminated him out talk about that.
- 9:00Speaker 3: I'm sure we have to go to break, but I'll
- 9:02Speaker 3: talk about how they terminated Chief Washington, which was just
- 9:05Speaker 3: as grotesque as as their termination of Chief Fiji.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Seemed like they should have learned something after that exercise,
- 9:13Speaker 1: and no they didn't. They were in the middle of
- 9:16Speaker 1: this big struggle with Chief Washington before they put Thiji
- 9:19Speaker 1: on administrative leaves. Hey, hey, wait a second. You know
- 9:22Speaker 1: we got in trouble with Washington over this. You're gonna
- 9:24Speaker 1: do this now? Pause will bring Christopher Smithman back. Plenty
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- 10:35Speaker 1: at about KRC Detok station, A very happy Monday team
- 10:38Speaker 1: made extra special for me and I hope you as well.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman and studio. Of course, we were talking about
- 10:42Speaker 1: police Chief Fiji and swirling question marks about why she
- 10:46Speaker 1: was even placed on administrative even we don't he and
- 10:48Speaker 1: I both are an agreement that doesn't look real good
- 10:50Speaker 1: for the city leaders having done that to her, and
- 10:53Speaker 1: of course the liability that they're probably going to face
- 10:55Speaker 1: as a consequence of it. So moving over. You said
- 10:58Speaker 1: you wanted to comment about was it Chief Washington? You
- 11:00Speaker 1: wanted to elaborate on a little bit, because again we've
- 11:02Speaker 1: been down this road before.
- 11:04Speaker 3: So I talked to Chief Washington right after the termination.
- 11:09Speaker 3: I consider him a friend. Yet again, John Cranley hired him.
- 11:14Speaker 3: John Cranley was the former mayor, so he had only
- 11:17Speaker 3: been serving as chief for a couple of years at
- 11:19Speaker 3: the time of his termination, but he had served as
- 11:21Speaker 3: a fire fire person for over thirty.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Years, comparable to Fiji's level of experience with the police department.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Absolutely, one day he gets a call. He gets to
- 11:32Speaker 3: Schryl A. Long the city Manager's office. From this is
- 11:35Speaker 3: his account, did not know that they were going to
- 11:38Speaker 3: terminate him, walked in, there's a lawyer there and the
- 11:42Speaker 3: city manager, the Cydney manager, makes some kind of pronouncement
- 11:46Speaker 3: that you're going to be fired. She leaves the room
- 11:50Speaker 3: and leaves him in there with the attorney. Again this
- 11:52Speaker 3: is Chief Washington's account of it as I remember it.
- 11:55Speaker 3: And they begin to strip him of things like his badge,
- 11:59Speaker 3: his radio, so he had he had traveled there in
- 12:03Speaker 3: his chief you know, wash his chief vehicle, so like
- 12:06Speaker 3: he's in uniform. So they're stripping him of all of
- 12:09Speaker 3: his stuff. They walk him out, Uh take you know,
- 12:13Speaker 3: say we're going to drive you to your house right
- 12:15Speaker 3: now he has no powers or shutting him down from
- 12:17Speaker 3: his computers and all that, drive him to his house
- 12:20Speaker 3: and just let him out like any other day. Like
- 12:22Speaker 3: that was the termination. No clear explanation of the why
- 12:26Speaker 3: what they're doing things. The chief yo, yes, very brutal like,
- 12:31Speaker 3: and the manager is not in the room at the
- 12:33Speaker 3: time like she like like she starts off, then walks out,
- 12:38Speaker 3: left in there with an attorney and so at the
- 12:41Speaker 3: end of the day, there's nothing in his file. And
- 12:45Speaker 3: so there was this this group that had done some
- 12:48Speaker 3: type of climate assessment about women and Brian what if
- 12:52Speaker 3: you read the news, it made you think it was
- 12:55Speaker 3: sexual misconduct with some subordinate Never, never was it this.
- 13:02Speaker 3: This was about saying that firehouses did not have restrooms
- 13:07Speaker 3: for women. Maybe their uniforms for women. They were wearing
- 13:11Speaker 3: male uniforms because that's something we had been working on.
- 13:13Speaker 3: It was a climate assessment, and they were literally dropping
- 13:17Speaker 3: on him, let's say, two hundred years of how the
- 13:20Speaker 3: fire department might be leaning heavily male culture. So that
- 13:26Speaker 3: was ultimately it, but that's not what was written. The
- 13:30Speaker 3: tone was that he was involved in some sexual misconduct
- 13:35Speaker 3: and none of that is true. So what has happened is,
- 13:39Speaker 3: first of all, he's won every legal battle. It went
- 13:42Speaker 3: to a three panel judge I think two weeks ago,
- 13:45Speaker 3: and what was on the table there was a lower
- 13:48Speaker 3: court said that Sheryl Long can be sued personally. I've
- 13:54Speaker 3: never seen this before, meaning he has won everything. And
- 13:58Speaker 3: they're saying, not only you said have a problem, but
- 14:01Speaker 3: you city manager personally are on the hook.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Which means Cheryl Long, not the City of Cincinnati taxpayers
- 14:07Speaker 1: would write a check for whatever portion of liability that
- 14:10Speaker 1: jury might find her responsible for.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Correct.
- 14:12Speaker 1: That really is a very very very painful thing to face.
- 14:16Speaker 3: Very painful. And so she's waiting, as Chief Washington is waiting.
- 14:21Speaker 3: Are two of the three of these judges going to say,
- 14:24Speaker 3: we uphold what that lower court said and personally, this
- 14:27Speaker 3: man can sue you. Now he's been waiting for a settlement,
- 14:31Speaker 3: meaning I have no idea if I were sure along
- 14:34Speaker 3: and a lower court had said they can take my house,
- 14:37Speaker 3: they can take my pension, they can take everything from me,
- 14:40Speaker 3: I'm going to act like I have some good common
- 14:42Speaker 3: sense and I'm going to come to the table and say, listen,
- 14:44Speaker 3: negotiate terms and let's be reasonable. But that's not what's
- 14:47Speaker 3: been happening, and what's so crazy about it, Brian. The
- 14:50Speaker 3: context is that prior to the election, they're down in
- 14:54Speaker 3: the bowels of city Hall negotiating the eight point one
- 14:58Speaker 3: million dollar settlement.
- 14:59Speaker 2: With those who were out rioting.
- 15:01Speaker 3: So you have it in your capacity to negotiate terms
- 15:06Speaker 3: right with people, to give them twelve to thirteen thousand
- 15:09Speaker 3: dollars per person who didn't give you thirty years of
- 15:13Speaker 3: their life per Fiji, per Washington. So we know they
- 15:17Speaker 3: know how to settle because they dropped eight point one
- 15:20Speaker 3: million dollars.
- 15:22Speaker 1: And you know when you mentioned that he put one
- 15:24Speaker 1: million dollars, I was getting ready to say I was
- 15:26Speaker 1: thinking you were going to pivot over to their decision
- 15:29Speaker 1: to allocate that amount of money over to the sort
- 15:32Speaker 1: of the music venue project. But all of this, regardless
- 15:36Speaker 1: of whether you're going to go that direction or talk
- 15:38Speaker 1: about settling with the rioters that were in the street
- 15:40Speaker 1: and giving them each fourteen grand or whatever, we're facing
- 15:44Speaker 1: how many million dollar budget shortfall? They claim thirty million
- 15:47Speaker 1: thirty one million dollars shortfall.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Huh.
- 15:49Speaker 1: They can come up with cash when they kind of
- 15:51Speaker 1: want to, can't They They can, And they asked for
- 15:53Speaker 1: a tax increase when they got a thirty one million
- 15:56Speaker 1: dollar budget shortfall that they probably shouldn't have anyway. And
- 15:59Speaker 1: I know you're going to talk a little bit about that,
- 16:01Speaker 1: their allocations and their decision making when it when it
- 16:04Speaker 1: comes to scarce taxpayer dollar resources. And we'll have lots
- 16:07Speaker 1: of time to do that and elaborate more on these
- 16:10Speaker 1: other issues, because I know you have a common or
- 16:12Speaker 1: two about Alex Travinsky, you know, no longer facing charges.
- 16:16Speaker 1: He was a victim in that beatdown that we had
- 16:19Speaker 1: to witness when when Holly got punched in the face,
- 16:21Speaker 1: and so that was the impetus behind getting rid of
- 16:25Speaker 1: police Chief Thiji Oddly enough, And here's I'll defend her
- 16:29Speaker 1: all day long. And I always struggle with this one
- 16:31Speaker 1: because you know, Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles was
- 16:35Speaker 1: out of town and on vacation when the fires broke out,
- 16:39Speaker 1: and she faced a lot of criticism for that. Of course,
- 16:42Speaker 1: may have to have par Bowl facing some criticism for
- 16:45Speaker 1: going on vacation when opening day parade happens, and of
- 16:48Speaker 1: course the criticism is mounted because of the brawls and
- 16:51Speaker 1: the crazy, roving gangs of youths that took over downtown Cincinnati.
- 16:57Speaker 1: But neither of them knew ahead of time that those
- 17:00Speaker 1: events we're gonna have outbreaks of violence. So at some
- 17:03Speaker 1: point you've got to be able to leave town and
- 17:05Speaker 1: do something, at least in the case that the chief DJ,
- 17:08Speaker 1: she was doing something related to her job seven twenty six.
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- 18:24Speaker 1: It's seven thirty one fifty five kar City Coss Days
- 18:27Speaker 1: and Brian Thomas with in studio Christopher Smillman, former vice
- 18:29Speaker 1: mayor of the City of Sinceag going through the issues
- 18:31Speaker 1: and behind the scenes on all this. We got to
- 18:35Speaker 1: move over this being sort of the the police chief
- 18:38Speaker 1: DJ placed on administrative leave and so we talked about
- 18:41Speaker 1: that seems very very suspicious. Clearly no articulated reason at
- 18:46Speaker 1: the time she was placed on leave for why she
- 18:48Speaker 1: was being placed on leave. Again, enter the law firm
- 18:51Speaker 1: retained to find a reason, returned with a very seemingly
- 18:55Speaker 1: very biased report predicated on the testimony of thirty two witnesses,
- 19:00Speaker 1: some of whom apparently still did say some nice things
- 19:02Speaker 1: about Thiji, none of which came into the report. So
- 19:05Speaker 1: the question swirling around that still don't really have a
- 19:08Speaker 1: clear cut indication as to why that she was placed
- 19:12Speaker 1: on administrative lead. But it happened right after the brawl
- 19:17Speaker 1: last summer, involving, among others, Alex Stravinsky and of course
- 19:22Speaker 1: Holly who's spent on this program several times. And if
- 19:24Speaker 1: you've seen the video of that, you know she just
- 19:26Speaker 1: got cole cocked in the face. Did absolutely nothing to
- 19:29Speaker 1: deserve it was rendering aid to one of the victims
- 19:32Speaker 1: of the beatdown. That was horrific, and she's still struggling
- 19:35Speaker 1: with some cognitive and other medical issues because of how
- 19:38Speaker 1: severely she was hurt. And so that's it right there again.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Police Chief Thiji out of town at a meeting of
- 19:44Speaker 1: law enforcement sort of you know, best practices kind of things.
- 19:48Speaker 1: She's going to bring that back to the city Cincinnati
- 19:50Speaker 1: for the purposes of perhaps better policing here in the city.
- 19:53Speaker 1: So that was part of her job function anyway as
- 19:55Speaker 1: opposed to being on vacation. But the strange circumstances around
- 20:03Speaker 1: swirling around charging Alex Tchrevinsky. Now you recall Christopher wasn't
- 20:08Speaker 1: the two captains on duty at the time would not
- 20:12Speaker 1: sign an arrestaff of David for that man. And I
- 20:15Speaker 1: don't remember how close Police Chief Thiji was involved with
- 20:19Speaker 1: whether or not she refused also to sign it or not.
- 20:22Speaker 1: But the enforcement officers on the street didn't find sufficient
- 20:28Speaker 1: information or didn't have sufficient information to charge him. And
- 20:32Speaker 1: yet enter former assistant Chief Henny, who did sign it. Yes,
- 20:40Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with the investigation, but apparently
- 20:43Speaker 1: bowing to some pressure, he went ahead and charge him. Well,
- 20:47Speaker 1: Alex has now had all the charges dismissed against him.
- 20:50Speaker 1: There apparently was no there there, which is what the
- 20:53Speaker 1: original arresting officers would be arresting officers determined at the time.
- 20:56Speaker 1: So do you think we're ever going to get to
- 20:59Speaker 1: the bottom of how it is the current Chief Henny
- 21:02Speaker 1: capitulated and bowed to whatever pressure, and most more specifically,
- 21:06Speaker 1: who brought pressure on the police department to go after
- 21:09Speaker 1: Alex Stravinsky in the first place, was that they needed
- 21:12Speaker 1: a white scalp in this because it was obviously a
- 21:17Speaker 1: black In some cases, white crime optics didn't look very good,
- 21:21Speaker 1: I'll admit, But do you need a random white guy
- 21:24Speaker 1: to charge? Is that where you think this leads? And
- 21:26Speaker 1: if so, who's the one that insisted he be charged?
- 21:29Speaker 3: Well, remember members of council and the mayor and the
- 21:32Speaker 3: city manager and community leaders held a press conference more
- 21:38Speaker 3: than one at least two, and they demanded that a
- 21:42Speaker 3: white person be arrested. I mean that was mob justice. Then,
- 21:45Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like, That's what it felt like.
- 21:48Speaker 3: And Alex Travinsky was the scapegoat.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Ye.
- 21:53Speaker 3: And so now following this case, all charges dropped. Clearly
- 21:58Speaker 3: the pressure was coming from city hall to arrest a
- 22:00Speaker 3: white person. That is their language, Brian Thomas, that's not
- 22:04Speaker 3: my language. They said, go and arrest a white person.
- 22:07Speaker 3: So a white person was arrested. Now a white person
- 22:11Speaker 3: has been acquitted, not acquitted, but all charges have been dismissed.
- 22:16Speaker 2: So if I'm serving as the vice mayor, I'm.
- 22:20Speaker 3: Letting the community know that the person who would sign
- 22:23Speaker 3: off on something like this would be the chief. I
- 22:27Speaker 3: cannot believe that the chief wasn't asked to sign off
- 22:32Speaker 3: on those charges.
- 22:33Speaker 1: It had already gotten national attention. The videos were all
- 22:37Speaker 1: over the place. I mean, Cincinnati did not look good
- 22:39Speaker 1: that night. So I would suspect that you're accurate in
- 22:42Speaker 1: that we need the chief to sign the charges. And
- 22:45Speaker 1: she probably wouldn't because she got the information from those
- 22:48Speaker 1: on the street and those on the scene that said
- 22:50Speaker 1: there's nothing to charge him with.
- 22:51Speaker 3: Correct And the person who would make a call like
- 22:54Speaker 3: that would be the city manager, because the chief reports
- 22:58Speaker 3: to the city manager.
- 23:01Speaker 2: It most likely wouldn't be the mayor.
- 23:02Speaker 3: The mayor would go, hey, city manager, I want somebody charged,
- 23:08Speaker 3: and hey, this is who we're going to charge. This
- 23:12Speaker 3: is just me speculating. You're a train of command. And
- 23:15Speaker 3: the city manager would call the chief and say, hey,
- 23:17Speaker 3: we've got these charges and we need somebody from the
- 23:21Speaker 3: police department to sign off on it. I don't know
- 23:24Speaker 3: if these facts are true, and the chief would say, no,
- 23:26Speaker 3: you're leading a professional police department. I cannot believe that
- 23:31Speaker 3: the chief of police was not approached. So then they
- 23:34Speaker 3: had to find somebody who in the department will sign
- 23:38Speaker 3: off on these charges. And they found somebody who would
- 23:42Speaker 3: sign off, and that person now has become the chief,
- 23:45Speaker 3: the introim chief. So what's going to happen here is
- 23:49Speaker 3: expect community that Alex Travinsky's lawyer is going to turn.
- 23:56Speaker 3: He's probably working day and night to file a lawsuit,
- 24:01Speaker 3: most likely in federal court, right because there's going to
- 24:04Speaker 3: be some discrimination here because they were saying, go arrest
- 24:07Speaker 3: a white person. So if if there were a group
- 24:11Speaker 3: of white people holding a press conference and they said
- 24:15Speaker 3: to arrest a black person, God.
- 24:19Speaker 1: That would make national news in a heartbeat.
- 24:23Speaker 3: And so you're going to see a case that probably
- 24:26Speaker 3: will have national attention because the question is do white
- 24:31Speaker 3: people have the same protections as every other human being
- 24:36Speaker 3: on the planet, And the answer to that is going
- 24:39Speaker 3: to be yes. So I guarantee you that his lawyer
- 24:42Speaker 3: is going We're going to federal court. We're going to
- 24:44Speaker 3: make federal law, no question, and you're going to have
- 24:49Speaker 3: not only putative damages, because where does Alex Travinsky go
- 24:53Speaker 3: today to get a job to operate in the United
- 24:57Speaker 3: States of America having been having been arrested and called
- 25:00Speaker 3: a total racist and now all charges have been dismissed sort.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Of flies in the face of the Black Lives Matter
- 25:09Speaker 1: narrative that police departments are all systemically racist, at least
- 25:13Speaker 1: when it comes to their treatment of black people. So
- 25:15Speaker 1: we flip that narrative on its head with this little
- 25:17Speaker 1: scenario of Christopher Smithman. We will continue this very interesting
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- 26:25Speaker 4: This is fifty five KRC, an iHeartRadio station.
- 26:29Speaker 1: In politics, it's seven forty two. Here fifty about KCD
- 26:36Speaker 1: talk station. Brian tell us the Christopher's Smith and kind
- 26:38Speaker 1: of think we're calling it an Extendedsmith event this morning.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Christopher's agreed to spend a couple hours here in the
- 26:43Speaker 1: morning show. At the ending it's seven oh five, all
- 26:45Speaker 1: the way through the tail end of the show. So
- 26:47Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this conversation. I hope you are walking through
- 26:50Speaker 1: the issues because of course Christopher smithm and having been
- 26:52Speaker 1: a Cincinnati council member and vice mayor of the city
- 26:55Speaker 1: since then, knows how the operations work. And I'm just
- 26:58Speaker 1: really left on that last note. So we have the
- 27:03Speaker 1: Alex Stravinsky issue with charges being dropped and what cause
- 27:09Speaker 1: of action he might have. But the idea that I'm
- 27:11Speaker 1: still reeling over the fact that no one wanted to
- 27:17Speaker 1: charge him, and that there was someone behind the scenes,
- 27:19Speaker 1: And I guess since the chief sort of reports to
- 27:24Speaker 1: the city manager, I think we're left to conclude it
- 27:27Speaker 1: was the city manager who demanded the head of a
- 27:29Speaker 1: white guy, that a white man be charged, which, as
- 27:32Speaker 1: you said, was stated unequivocally in these press conferences.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Now, remember the Vice Mayor Jay Michelle was there for
- 27:39Speaker 3: those press conferences, Chair of Law and Public Safety Council
- 27:43Speaker 3: Member Scotti Johnson was there for those, for those conversations
- 27:47Speaker 3: and these pronouncements. The city manager was there, the mayor
- 27:51Speaker 3: was there, meaning they all were standing there. I cannot
- 27:54Speaker 3: believe that his lawyer would not show that in court,
- 27:57Speaker 3: that they're standing in front of the entire city. I mean,
- 28:00Speaker 3: you've got the power in the weight of your government
- 28:03Speaker 3: saying you must arrest a white person.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:06Speaker 1: And maybe their defense, which I think is stupid, but
- 28:11Speaker 1: it sounds like it's all they've got. Their defense in
- 28:13Speaker 1: coming out and saying that right out of the gate
- 28:15Speaker 1: is because at that time, the only video that I
- 28:17Speaker 1: think that was circulating was the one where Alex Stravinsky
- 28:20Speaker 1: kind of soft slaps that other guy in the face.
- 28:24Speaker 1: But that was they didn't have all of the video
- 28:27Speaker 1: leading up to that moment in time, which is the
- 28:30Speaker 1: reason the charges were all dropped.
- 28:33Speaker 3: We need to stay on this, Brian, because there was
- 28:35Speaker 3: so much attention on the slap. Yeah, and that people
- 28:38Speaker 3: are listening to us right now, Black Americans, White Americans
- 28:43Speaker 3: are listening to us right now, and many do not
- 28:46Speaker 3: know that the complete video was released, and that video
- 28:50Speaker 3: showed that the fight and the altercation started before the slap,
- 28:56Speaker 3: meaning the paunch behind the head of somebody who did that,
- 29:02Speaker 3: whoever did it, was before that and that was not
- 29:06Speaker 3: the beginning. And so many people, Brian, when you talk
- 29:09Speaker 3: to them right now, they still because because the media,
- 29:12Speaker 3: the mayor, the manager. I'm not letting them off the hook.
- 29:16Speaker 3: And this is why we are trained at city Hall
- 29:20Speaker 3: after the collabortive agreement, Okay, that we are not supposed
- 29:25Speaker 3: to discuss cases until the investigation is complete.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Ooh, that is on record.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Let us pause on that note and dive under a
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- 30:51Speaker 4: Sixty six fifty five KRC let's go week man, it's seven.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Want to think about rcity talkation by the Times with
- 31:01Speaker 1: Christopher Smindman. We'll get him in the next hour as well.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Sort of wrapping up this whole Fiji placed on administrative
- 31:09Speaker 1: leave springing from the beatdown that was issued on Holly
- 31:13Speaker 1: and most notably Alex Stravinsky, who was in fact chared
- 31:16Speaker 1: a charge, and of course that was none at the
- 31:18Speaker 1: behest of someone presumably maybe City Manager Cheryl Long and
- 31:23Speaker 1: you were talking about in the wake of the collaborative
- 31:26Speaker 1: agreement talking about going back a while that the collaborative
- 31:29Speaker 1: agreement requires that CINCINNTI council members and the mayor and
- 31:32Speaker 1: I guess the city manager not comment on matters still
- 31:37Speaker 1: under investigation. Now, I speculated that maybe they went off
- 31:41Speaker 1: sort of half cocked because all they had was that
- 31:44Speaker 1: one slice of video where Alex slaps the other guy
- 31:47Speaker 1: in the face, but it was preceded by a whole
- 31:49Speaker 1: bunch of other videos showing that this was more an
- 31:52Speaker 1: active self defense, if I can call it that, than
- 31:55Speaker 1: him unilaterally just going out and hitting somebody, which would
- 31:57Speaker 1: be a battery. I guess if you wanted to charge
- 32:00Speaker 1: was something anyway, those charges drop. Corey said, well, the
- 32:03Speaker 1: entire video was in fact out that they refused to
- 32:06Speaker 1: show it. I don't know who they is. If somebody's
- 32:08Speaker 1: got video, they're going to put it out there. Your
- 32:10Speaker 1: understanding was not that way. But we do know that
- 32:14Speaker 1: they did go off half baked and they did ask
- 32:16Speaker 1: for this white guy to be charged.
- 32:20Speaker 3: And I want to just follow up as we go
- 32:22Speaker 3: into break Brian and say, you know, as the former
- 32:26Speaker 3: chair of Law and Public Safety, right my position is
- 32:30Speaker 3: chair at that time, and Kevin Flynn being the vice chair,
- 32:34Speaker 3: we have oversight of the entire police department. I can
- 32:39Speaker 3: walk into any district anywhere nine to one one call
- 32:42Speaker 3: center and get just about anything that I want. So
- 32:45Speaker 3: if there was a video out there, right and you're
- 32:48Speaker 3: the Chair of Law and Public Safety, there's no way
- 32:51Speaker 3: that you don't know or shouldn't know that it exists.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Number one. Yeah, that's a good point.
- 32:56Speaker 3: And if you're the mayor, right you can walk and
- 32:59Speaker 3: get it of this information, and if you're the city manager,
- 33:03Speaker 3: you can go get it into this information. So it's
- 33:04Speaker 3: not for me as I watched it going they didn't know,
- 33:10Speaker 3: they didn't want to know. They were turning a blind eye.
- 33:13Speaker 3: They were feeding into the narrative going into an election
- 33:18Speaker 3: in November in order to hype up the Black American
- 33:22Speaker 3: community here to vote for them, saying you're a victim
- 33:26Speaker 3: that they're trying to overcharge you. This is really white racism.
- 33:31Speaker 3: These are clan members, these are Nazi members that are
- 33:34Speaker 3: in downtown. They were ginning all of this up going
- 33:38Speaker 3: into the November election to beat Corey Bowman to win
- 33:43Speaker 3: their nine seats.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Back on council. That's what this was all about.
- 33:47Speaker 3: And this lawyer is going to pin their ears back
- 33:50Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, because this was a political motivated hit job
- 33:54Speaker 3: on this man, and they never believed that. They never
- 33:57Speaker 3: believed that he'd have a lawyer that all charged would
- 34:00Speaker 3: be dropped. And the boomerang is now coming right back
- 34:03Speaker 3: in city Hall.
- 34:03Speaker 2: That certainly is.
- 34:04Speaker 1: And again it's just if I was in that position,
- 34:08Speaker 1: regardless of how I felt, you know politically, that you
- 34:12Speaker 1: would go out and demand and arrest when you know
- 34:17Speaker 1: you don't have all the information, you can't definitively state it.
- 34:23Speaker 1: And yet they went out and definitively stated that he was,
- 34:25Speaker 1: It was justifiable, and it was proper to charge him.
- 34:29Speaker 1: I mean, that just puts you in a just a
- 34:31Speaker 1: ridiculous position where you're you're gonna be played the fool
- 34:34Speaker 1: down the road when all the information ultimately comes out.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Brian, I've been in a nine to one to one
- 34:38Speaker 3: call center. The number of cameras that we have downtown
- 34:42Speaker 3: could read your wrist, read the time on your wrist,
- 34:46Speaker 3: Meaning there's so many cameras. Now, my understanding is that
- 34:49Speaker 3: there weren't. There are a lot of cameras in this section,
- 34:51Speaker 3: but there are a lot of businesses that have cameras
- 34:55Speaker 3: on there on their businesses, and that's where this footage
- 34:58Speaker 3: came from. And so three seeds down there, for example,
- 35:01Speaker 3: would easily Steve Leeper. You could call him on the
- 35:04Speaker 3: phone and say, Hey, what restaurant, what business has cameras?
- 35:07Speaker 3: You would never go out in front of a camera
- 35:10Speaker 3: without pulling all of the video.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Why would you want to do that. You're gonna end
- 35:15Speaker 1: up maybe being played the fool. But you know, unless
- 35:18Speaker 1: you want to go out and say you could you
- 35:19Speaker 1: could see in the future and you were Look, I
- 35:21Speaker 1: was right. I got the video. Now it proved me right.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Neither which was true. You know, if and if coreus correct,
- 35:26Speaker 1: as you followed up, you said the video of Alex
- 35:28Speaker 1: getting punched in the back of the head was on X.
- 35:31Speaker 1: They being Cincinnati local media newspaper, city government, were the
- 35:35Speaker 1: ones who refused to acknowledge it. If that's true, that
- 35:38Speaker 1: makes it even worse.
- 35:39Speaker 2: It wasn't.
- 35:40Speaker 1: I didn't have any of the information and woops, I
- 35:42Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that because more video was ultimately released
- 35:46Speaker 1: that I've got.
- 35:47Speaker 2: The point being it was out there.
- 35:49Speaker 1: It should have been reviewed before they went to the
- 35:51Speaker 1: street and demanded this this guy get prosecuted because now
- 35:54Speaker 1: they look like fools. So and it does serve to
- 35:57Speaker 1: Alex Travinsky's interest when it comes to the lot that
- 36:00Speaker 1: time he files a lawsuit, we presume, which will be forthcoming.
- 36:03Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more with Christopher Smithman in the next hour.
- 36:05Speaker 1: We got budget issues, we got prioritization, we got a
- 36:08Speaker 1: whole bunch of things. Oh and look, I know that
- 36:11Speaker 1: Christopher is so excited. We've got another skate park open.
- 36:15Speaker 1: And guess who is there for the ribbon cutting ceremony.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman. Don't go away, We'll be right back. After
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- 36:46Speaker 1: You know six here fifty five Carris, Are you know
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- 36:50Speaker 1: matters to you. I corrected the records. Brian Thomas right here,
- 36:52Speaker 1: glad to be with Christopher Smithman who's in the studio,
- 36:55Speaker 1: and extended smith Event's kind of what I'm calling it here.
- 36:57Speaker 1: And of course we went through a lot of the
- 36:59Speaker 1: issues in the last hour or police CHIEFDIJI. The Alex
- 37:01Speaker 1: Stravinsky thing didn't really touch too much yet. Perhaps we
- 37:05Speaker 1: can dive on into it a little bit. The whole
- 37:07Speaker 1: Iris Roley connection behind the scenes, because this is very suspicious,
- 37:11Speaker 1: and I know you have some theories and thoughts on that.
- 37:13Speaker 1: And for regular listeners or for listeners aren't familiar with
- 37:16Speaker 1: who Iris Rolie is. She's a very influential outside activist,
- 37:21Speaker 1: well known for her participation in Black Lives Matter rallies.
- 37:23Speaker 1: She's been documented on video interfering with performance of law
- 37:26Speaker 1: enforcements duties in downtown. But she goes all the way
- 37:29Speaker 1: back to the collaborative agreement that we entered into the
- 37:32Speaker 1: city and the federal government to deal with issues cropping
- 37:35Speaker 1: up after the riots that took place.
- 37:36Speaker 2: What year were those riots? Oh, I'm that positive man.
- 37:39Speaker 1: We go way back on that. Wait, wait, it's been
- 37:41Speaker 1: over twenty years. She's been around for that long. So
- 37:44Speaker 1: for whatever reason, she's gained a position of power and
- 37:46Speaker 1: prominence in the city. And she is currently a ten
- 37:49Speaker 1: ninety nine employee who's getting what a six hundred and
- 37:52Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars contract to engage with the community or
- 37:57Speaker 1: something like that. I know her son is making six
- 38:00Speaker 1: the bucks an hour if I recall the figure correctly
- 38:02Speaker 1: doing work with youths at Government Square or something. So
- 38:06Speaker 1: a lot of we'll get that later. I know you
- 38:09Speaker 1: and I think it's important that you chime in on this.
- 38:12Speaker 1: How impressive are American military? And you can say all
- 38:15Speaker 1: you want about whether or not we should be in
- 38:17Speaker 1: the situation in Iraq. We are waging a war right now,
- 38:19Speaker 1: of course, against the Iranians, but to see the American
- 38:22Speaker 1: military a plane gets down and we literally entered that
- 38:29Speaker 1: country and got the pilots back, now impressive, absolutely. But
- 38:37Speaker 1: I think it's not only a reflection of how much
- 38:40Speaker 1: we have made by way of progress in undermining the Iranians'
- 38:45Speaker 1: ability to defend themselves, but also I think it speaks
- 38:49Speaker 1: volumes to the skill of those special forces team who
- 38:52Speaker 1: went in.
- 38:52Speaker 2: And got them out.
- 38:53Speaker 1: I mean, every human being in Iran, by all accounts,
- 38:56Speaker 1: was looking for those two pilots, which means when you
- 38:59Speaker 1: send a four set of two hundred or so troops
- 39:02Speaker 1: to go rescue them, then they are targets quite clearly
- 39:05Speaker 1: for all of the Iranians who are in a position
- 39:07Speaker 1: to shoot at one of them. So I know you
- 39:08Speaker 1: wanted a comment about that, corw so Brian.
- 39:10Speaker 3: You know, for me, I think as an American all
- 39:14Speaker 3: of us can appreciate in awe as you've just described
- 39:19Speaker 3: the success of the mission, you know, And I'm going
- 39:22Speaker 3: to talk about the politics because as I watch you know,
- 39:25Speaker 3: social media or I watch the news, my sense is
- 39:29Speaker 3: that people cannot separate our military, the might of our military,
- 39:35Speaker 3: the pride in our military.
- 39:37Speaker 2: And the White House, and so they they bring all
- 39:41Speaker 2: this together and they shouldn't.
- 39:44Speaker 1: We can I boil it down as I understand that statement,
- 39:48Speaker 1: it's we have Americans who want us to fail in
- 39:51Speaker 1: RAN because Donald Trump is responsible for the decision making.
- 39:56Speaker 3: I agree, period of I mean, it looked like that
- 40:00Speaker 3: where I'm sitting there with a son who's in the military,
- 40:02Speaker 3: who did four years active duty in the Air Force,
- 40:05Speaker 3: now is back in the Air National Guard, so he's
- 40:09Speaker 3: still serving, and my hat goes off and Brian's I know,
- 40:12Speaker 3: his hat goes off because I hear all of the
- 40:15Speaker 3: flights that go out. We support the military, our veterans,
- 40:18Speaker 3: and we extend our great love and support for all
- 40:21Speaker 3: of those military families that are out there right now.
- 40:24Speaker 3: But as I watched and listened to think about the
- 40:28Speaker 3: coordination of the CIA of the pilot himself, mean meaning,
- 40:33Speaker 3: I learned a lot that they have so much training
- 40:36Speaker 3: going into the situation of how to survive and what
- 40:39Speaker 3: they're supposed to do forty eight hours, probably very little contact,
- 40:44Speaker 3: you know. I think they said he went seven thou
- 40:47Speaker 3: mountainous terrain all the way to the top and wounded.
- 40:51Speaker 3: Right he sets up some beacon something that's beeping that says, dude,
- 40:55Speaker 3: I'm here and come get me.
- 40:57Speaker 2: But might not know that they see it. Are they
- 41:01Speaker 2: hear it?
- 41:01Speaker 4: Like?
- 41:01Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 41:02Speaker 3: You're kind of out there all by yourself with one pistol,
- 41:06Speaker 3: you know, one clip magazine magazinze yourself. Excuse me, you're
- 41:11Speaker 3: a firearms you know that.
- 41:12Speaker 2: You know that.
- 41:13Speaker 1: But I think I would have needed several extra changes
- 41:17Speaker 1: of shorts being in that position.
- 41:20Speaker 3: You don't know where you are is night, you can't
- 41:23Speaker 3: see you're You're in some crevice somewhere. So this was
- 41:27Speaker 3: It's an amazing rescue. There's probably going to be a
- 41:31Speaker 3: movie about this.
- 41:31Speaker 1: At some point we mentioned that before we got on
- 41:33Speaker 1: the air, like these the Maduro capture and this rescue
- 41:38Speaker 1: would make two fantastic movies. And again I always got
- 41:41Speaker 1: to think about the people out there that well, we
- 41:42Speaker 1: had no legal justification of going to grab a Duro,
- 41:45Speaker 1: and I might agree with that. I mean, and I'm
- 41:48Speaker 1: the same way on initiating a war against Iran without
- 41:52Speaker 1: some sort of war powers resolution or declaration of war.
- 41:55Speaker 1: I'm still on that, and I'm not alone. There's some
- 41:57Speaker 1: other congressmen and some elected officials were all so still
- 42:00Speaker 1: raising that. But here we are. I can't avoid the
- 42:03Speaker 1: fact that here we are. So I can comment on
- 42:07Speaker 1: the simple awesomeness of those two particular missions.
- 42:12Speaker 2: And to think about the president right.
- 42:17Speaker 3: Notice I'm not saying who the president is, the president
- 42:20Speaker 3: of the United States making the decision to not leave
- 42:23Speaker 3: him behind. That is a risk for a politician because
- 42:27Speaker 3: everything could go wrong, and now you have more soldiers
- 42:32Speaker 3: behind enemy lines who are now who are now hostages, and.
- 42:37Speaker 1: So many of who might say, well, those are boots
- 42:40Speaker 1: on the ground. You had to go into the country
- 42:42Speaker 1: of Iran with soldiers to get the guys out. So
- 42:46Speaker 1: I can hear that argument being made as well. But
- 42:47Speaker 1: you know, the downside political risk is, you know, if
- 42:49Speaker 1: you could let him, just let that person die, or
- 42:54Speaker 1: just not risk these special forces going in and getting
- 42:57Speaker 1: them because of all the risks associated with the parallel
- 43:00Speaker 1: risk is the Iranians find that pilot and drag him
- 43:04Speaker 1: through the streets and subject him to brutal torture and
- 43:07Speaker 1: use him as a political pun to elevate their case
- 43:10Speaker 1: and bring international attention down and bring a lot more
- 43:13Speaker 1: people who are already angry about evil Orange Man and
- 43:16Speaker 1: not happy about the war, giving them an exclamation point
- 43:19Speaker 1: to put on their arguments that we shouldn't be there
- 43:21Speaker 1: in the first place. So, yeah, that was a risk,
- 43:23Speaker 1: and I don't think the Trump administration, any administration, could
- 43:26Speaker 1: take Yeah.
- 43:26Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, this is about
- 43:29Speaker 3: our military, ore might the training that they have to
- 43:34Speaker 3: pull something off like this. They're probably not a lot
- 43:36Speaker 3: of countries, if not any, who could do what we
- 43:39Speaker 3: accomplished this weekend.
- 43:41Speaker 2: We certainly of our fellow NATO members.
- 43:44Speaker 3: No, all, that's a whole that's a whole nother, that's
- 43:47Speaker 3: a whole other conversation. So I'm a person who roots
- 43:50Speaker 3: for our country, right, I root for the flag, I
- 43:53Speaker 3: root for the success of our country. And it's disappointing
- 43:56Speaker 3: for me to hear people out there rooting a against us.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's tough.
- 44:02Speaker 3: And so at the end of the day, if you're
- 44:04Speaker 3: listening to Brian and I think about if that was
- 44:07Speaker 3: your husband or your uncle or your brother, and he
- 44:11Speaker 3: has been serving the country.
- 44:13Speaker 2: He's a colonel, he's behind enemy lines.
- 44:17Speaker 3: Do you want a president or a politician in there
- 44:20Speaker 3: that has a mindset of I'm not gonna leave him behind.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what it takes to get him out.
- 44:26Speaker 3: Because we saw what happened in Afghanistan, and obviously there
- 44:29Speaker 3: are differences of how different elected officials think. This one
- 44:34Speaker 3: said I'm going in to get them at all costs. Well,
- 44:38Speaker 3: and I mentioned this earlier in the program The Five
- 44:40Speaker 3: o'clock Our Christopher. I think it's worthy bringing it back
- 44:42Speaker 3: up again. You know, well, Jimmy Carter apparently had some
- 44:46Speaker 3: measure of resolve in trying to get the hostages out
- 44:49Speaker 3: of Iran after the revolution. That was an epic failure.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Those helicopters all crashed in the middle of a sandstorm
- 44:56Speaker 1: in the desert. So that was a real, true embarrassment
- 44:58Speaker 1: to the United States of America. And I think it
- 45:01Speaker 1: suggested to a lot of people our American military forces
- 45:03Speaker 1: were not up to snuff. Clearly, they've been honing their
- 45:07Speaker 1: skill set since then, you know what I'm saying. Clearly,
- 45:11Speaker 1: these are some bad dudes who went in there with
- 45:15Speaker 1: no mercy.
- 45:16Speaker 3: Clearly there was a gun battle at some level because
- 45:19Speaker 3: they had to be to clear it, to clear the
- 45:22Speaker 3: area out to get to them, because you know, the
- 45:24Speaker 3: country is looking for this man. There's a sixteen thousand
- 45:27Speaker 3: dollars bounty on his head, which is probably could be
- 45:30Speaker 3: worth a million dollars for them on whatever the currency is.
- 45:34Speaker 2: But at the end, but at the end.
- 45:35Speaker 1: Of this they spent that billion and a half in
- 45:38Speaker 1: cash that Obama gave him, nearly fifteen grand left over
- 45:41Speaker 1: to give us the reward.
- 45:43Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't realize that that that was. I think
- 45:45Speaker 3: it was one point seven one point four billion dollars.
- 45:48Speaker 2: Palla the cash man. That's that is that is actually
- 45:51Speaker 2: that is very true.
- 45:52Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I just want
- 45:54Speaker 3: to salute our military, salute the success of the mission.
- 46:00Speaker 3: And it was important enough for me Brian to bring
- 46:01Speaker 3: it up because I think young people who are on
- 46:05Speaker 3: spring break right now, young people who might be listening
- 46:08Speaker 3: to us, need to understand that there's a time that
- 46:12Speaker 3: you back your country, you back your flag. You say
- 46:17Speaker 3: this is my team and I want them to win. Right,
- 46:20Speaker 3: It's not about always like, is every detail of this right?
- 46:24Speaker 3: It's not you and I saying like you just pointed
- 46:26Speaker 3: out whether you fully agree with the decision to go in.
- 46:29Speaker 3: We're in, and if we're in, we want to win
- 46:33Speaker 3: and we want to support that as an American And
- 46:35Speaker 3: you know when.
- 46:36Speaker 1: You step back from moving aside from the whole, should
- 46:39Speaker 1: we even be there? Is it legal for Trump to
- 46:42Speaker 1: do this? Did he just go it alone?
- 46:43Speaker 3: With that?
- 46:44Speaker 2: I get all that, I trust me. I do.
- 46:47Speaker 1: But if we do prevail, we will have benefited the
- 46:51Speaker 1: entire world. We will have brought a greater sense of
- 46:54Speaker 1: stability for all of those Arab nations that are right
- 46:57Speaker 1: there next to a run. If they don't, I know
- 47:00Speaker 1: they know it. They're leaning toward our side of the equation.
- 47:03Speaker 1: Iran is bombing, it's fellow Arab nations, Saudi Arabia, United
- 47:08Speaker 1: Arab Emdment, it's Kakuwait, they're all on the receiving in
- 47:10Speaker 1: now of Iran's random missiles. Do you think they want that?
- 47:14Speaker 1: Of course they don't. So we solve that problem. We
- 47:17Speaker 1: keep the straight of horror moves open for the entire globe,
- 47:19Speaker 1: because apparently the entire globe is dependent upon that narrow
- 47:24Speaker 1: strait right there, and we bring about some measure of
- 47:27Speaker 1: stability into the future for a long time, getting rid
- 47:31Speaker 1: of the proxy wars being fought by the terrorists because
- 47:33Speaker 1: we've dried up their funding source. Now, trust me, I
- 47:36Speaker 1: hear somebody yelling at they're ready. Yeah, but what about
- 47:38Speaker 1: Russia and what about China. Yeah, they're still there. But
- 47:43Speaker 1: a world without Iran will definitely be a much much
- 47:46Speaker 1: better place, and most notably for the people in that
- 47:48Speaker 1: specific region of the world.
- 47:50Speaker 3: Well, let me just say, forty five thousand Iranians lost
- 47:54Speaker 3: their life to this government. They were shooting them down,
- 47:57Speaker 3: you know, Venezuela. Venezuelans were saying they were excited about
- 48:00Speaker 3: this change. Let's not forget that people now. The only
- 48:04Speaker 3: reason I'm raising that is that the Democratic Party, right,
- 48:08Speaker 3: their brand would tell you that they would be for
- 48:12Speaker 3: this right. They would say, there's no way we're going
- 48:15Speaker 3: to see forty five thousand Iranians shot down in the
- 48:18Speaker 3: streets fighting for freedom and them not lend a voice
- 48:22Speaker 3: to it. I'm questioning why so many Democrats aren't lending
- 48:28Speaker 3: a voice, and I think that's what Iranians are saying.
- 48:31Speaker 3: If you go out on social media. That's what the
- 48:33Speaker 3: Venezuela and people are saying. What is going on with
- 48:36Speaker 3: the Democratic Party that they are saying they're against the
- 48:40Speaker 3: humanity of this, because that's all about their brand. I
- 48:43Speaker 3: get Republicans saying, I'm questioning, you know, we're not the
- 48:47Speaker 3: police for the world. But that has not been the
- 48:49Speaker 3: position of the Democratic Party. There's something going on here.
- 48:54Speaker 3: It's okay.
- 48:54Speaker 1: When Barack Obama starts bombing Libya, for example, it was
- 48:57Speaker 1: all great, it was the right thing to do. They
- 48:59Speaker 1: represented a three I guess under those circumstances, which you
- 49:02Speaker 1: can't find now in this particular circumstance. Also note that
- 49:05Speaker 1: the No Kings rally, Donald Trump didn't send out troops
- 49:07Speaker 1: to mow them down. Correct, Okay, eight seventeen Right now,
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- 51:57Speaker 1: With Christopher Smid and an extended Smith event to the
- 52:00Speaker 1: end of this hour, and Christopher, I wanted to get
- 52:02Speaker 1: into budget issues. Thirty one million dollar budget shortfall, roads, bridges,
- 52:08Speaker 1: infrastructures seem to be not even on the radar elected officials.
- 52:12Speaker 1: I listen, we can complain all day long, but do
- 52:15Speaker 1: they really need to raise our income tax? Christopher? They
- 52:18Speaker 1: find money seemingly anytime they needed the money for the
- 52:21Speaker 1: music venue where you know down by riverbend. Where did
- 52:24Speaker 1: that come from? I mean, all of a sudden next thing,
- 52:26Speaker 1: you know that since an orchestra, whoever's in charge, has
- 52:28Speaker 1: their handout to the city saying, hey, we could use
- 52:31Speaker 1: some money, and they come up with what was that
- 52:32Speaker 1: eight million bucks like that, no questions asked, And then
- 52:37Speaker 1: now they're talking about cutting the police department money.
- 52:40Speaker 3: Use are these are the bait and switch moves that
- 52:45Speaker 3: I see politicians.
- 52:46Speaker 1: Issue twenty two that was on the ballot, which was
- 52:48Speaker 1: to sell of the rail railroad sale that was supposed
- 52:51Speaker 1: to be the solve all our problems. Railroad sale, that
- 52:53Speaker 1: one that one. So listen to this, this is great.
- 52:56Speaker 3: We have an opportunity, this is right from Issue twenty
- 52:59Speaker 3: two that was put in all of our mailboxes to
- 53:01Speaker 3: vote yes on twenty two. We have an opportunity to
- 53:05Speaker 3: fix our broken infrastructure in every neighborhood. Voting yes on
- 53:10Speaker 3: twenty two to sell the city's old freight railroad will
- 53:14Speaker 3: generate funding we.
- 53:15Speaker 1: Need without raising taxes. Here that out raising taxes, that's right. Well, yeah,
- 53:21Speaker 1: that's right. The Issue twenty two went through. We sold
- 53:24Speaker 1: the railroad. Well, why are they saying we're going to
- 53:26Speaker 1: raise taxes?
- 53:27Speaker 3: No, Christopher, here's where the bait and switch goes from
- 53:30Speaker 3: the politicians. Brian, we all seen it. You were here
- 53:34Speaker 3: saying Issue twenty two vote no. You had the railroad
- 53:38Speaker 3: spending five million dollars on this kind of advertising that
- 53:41Speaker 3: was going out to everybody to vote for this thing.
- 53:43Speaker 3: We lost three hundred miles of rail all the way
- 53:46Speaker 3: to Tennessee, where we were generating about thirty six million
- 53:50Speaker 3: dollars a year. The biggest issue with Issue twenty two
- 53:54Speaker 3: is that, in a nutshell, construction inflation is nine percent,
- 54:00Speaker 3: but the tenets of how they can invest the money
- 54:03Speaker 3: I'm a financial planner is five percent, meaning they can't
- 54:07Speaker 3: swing for the fences and do an acid allocation for
- 54:11Speaker 3: regular growth like in somebody's four oh one k. They
- 54:14Speaker 3: have to manage it in a more conservative way. So
- 54:17Speaker 3: if over the next twenty years construction is going up
- 54:21Speaker 3: by nine percent, they can only invest to get a
- 54:24Speaker 3: five percent return. Our infrastructure is going to be a
- 54:28Speaker 3: disaster over the next ten or twenty years.
- 54:31Speaker 2: It's already bad now. Disaster.
- 54:33Speaker 1: They haven't they paid attention to it for the last
- 54:35Speaker 1: forty years. Basically, how many road miles are we behind
- 54:38Speaker 1: in terms of filling potholes and repaving.
- 54:40Speaker 2: It is massive. It is massive.
- 54:43Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that when we were dealing
- 54:45Speaker 3: with a railroad and we were negotiating their contracts. We
- 54:48Speaker 3: could negotiate those type of inflation numbers, meaning we're going
- 54:53Speaker 3: to go up by nine percent in order to keep
- 54:55Speaker 3: up with the payments that are coming from the railroad.
- 54:58Speaker 3: We can no longer do that, Brian Thomas, that one
- 55:01Speaker 3: point six billion dollars in sitting there. We can say
- 55:04Speaker 3: every day we get a five percent, five percent, five percent,
- 55:07Speaker 3: we are still four percent in the hole because of
- 55:10Speaker 3: the cost of construction going up by nine percent.
- 55:13Speaker 1: And there seems to be a big, a deafening silence
- 55:17Speaker 1: about projects that are approved and projects that can actually start.
- 55:22Speaker 1: Does the board have any say over the proposed expenditure
- 55:26Speaker 1: of money from the interest generated? They don't seem to.
- 55:29Speaker 1: I know that the city manager came out with some
- 55:31Speaker 1: list of approved projects that had used up some of
- 55:34Speaker 1: that money in that allocation, but they haven't started, and
- 55:37Speaker 1: there's no details known to the general public about what
- 55:39Speaker 1: those projects are and who's going to be doing them,
- 55:41Speaker 1: and have they done you know RFPs, have they submitted
- 55:44Speaker 1: to open bidding silence?
- 55:46Speaker 2: No, we don't have any information. Correct.
- 55:49Speaker 3: But this is an important point because we talked about
- 55:52Speaker 3: this before Issue twenty two passed. Yeah, we said, look,
- 55:56Speaker 3: we have full visibility on the railroad dollars because it's public.
- 56:01Speaker 3: Now you've taken the money to a board that might
- 56:05Speaker 3: meet down at the Queens City Club making decisions about
- 56:08Speaker 3: the money that you and I have no visibility on
- 56:10Speaker 3: anymore that we used to because the money landed at
- 56:14Speaker 3: City Hall, nine members of council and the mayor and
- 56:16Speaker 3: the allocation. We have none of that aga to the
- 56:19Speaker 3: general fund. Right well, it was capital dollars that went
- 56:22Speaker 3: into it, yes, but the big pile of money at
- 56:24Speaker 3: least right there, he was right there. None the money
- 56:29Speaker 3: came in, every member, every council tax dollars. Correct, it
- 56:32Speaker 3: came in and we would then discuss it in the public.
- 56:36Speaker 3: Now we have no discussion. But I cannot emphasize Brian
- 56:40Speaker 3: constructions going up nine percent. If somebody tried to build
- 56:44Speaker 3: a home ten years from now, ten years ago and
- 56:47Speaker 3: they're trying to build the same home today, the cost
- 56:51Speaker 3: of construction is higher.
- 56:53Speaker 2: It always is going higher.
- 56:55Speaker 3: And I'm letting you know that this mayor pure Vaal,
- 56:58Speaker 3: who had his car reposed twice, right, who cannot manage
- 57:03Speaker 3: his own personal budget, sold us on a one point
- 57:08Speaker 3: six billion dollar transaction that our forefathers had for almost
- 57:13Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty years in the city of Cincinnati.
- 57:16Speaker 3: Is one of the worst transactions ever. And by the way,
- 57:19Speaker 3: elections have consequences because he was overwhelmingly voted in again
- 57:25Speaker 3: after that terrible transaction.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured that phrase would be coming up again
- 57:29Speaker 1: on this show Between You with talking to you this morning, Christopher,
- 57:32Speaker 1: elections have consequences. Stick around. We'll have more with Christopher
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- 1:00:04Speaker 1: It's eight thirty four here fifty five KCD talk station
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: went long in that last segment with Christopher Smith, and
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: I know you got two points you wanted to make
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: in this segment, But real quick, Christopher, I know you
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: want to do a reminder. It's an action plan for
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: those who may not be registered to vote. Christopher, hold
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: on your MIC's not on. There you go the Board
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: of Elections.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Today is the last day to register to vote to
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: participate in the May primary. It's also the last day
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: to update your address in Hamilton County if your address
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: doesn't match your registration, so you could be a registered
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: voter and not be able to participate, meaning you cast
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: a provisional ballot. So if you've moved in the last
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: six months, you've moved in the last year, absolutely go
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: to the Board of Elections today. It takes thirty seconds.
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: Fill out a card, update your address, submit it. You'll
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: be ready to participate in the May primary. The May
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: primary this year critical, there are big races on both sides.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: Good point.
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: And I would just say, look, my daughter right is
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: now a registered voter. She's ready, so I got she's
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: eighteen old and she'll be voting in her first primary.
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: And so all of my kids that are here local,
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: they're all ready to participate, already to vote, they'll vote
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: in the primary. And all I'm saying is that if
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: you have an eighteen year old right now who's in
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: high school, like I do, you might not have thought
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: I should register them before four o'clock. You don't want
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: your child to register when they go away to college.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: You want your child to be registered where they live.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Because what happens is professors, administrators, different social groups try
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: to grab our children, register them to vote where they
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: are in college, and then direct those votes to the polls.
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: It's another thing I always tell and always Pam and
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: I always told our kids register here and come home,
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: or do an absentee ballot, whatever you're gonna do.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: I like to come home. Fark.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: That gives you one more opportunity before they go and vote,
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: to convince them which direction they should vote.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: That's what a good parrot does. Now, they don't have
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: to listen to you. They don't.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: They don't have to listen. But I also look at
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: them in their face and I say, understand how you eat.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: Understand that my taxes being low affords me the ability
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: to pay your bills.
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: So think about that before you go into cass. I
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: love you, Chris. That's great.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: Eight thirty six will continue with Chris Throer got a
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: couple more and some more points you wanted to get to,
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: which we will together here this morning. But I want
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: you to get into butter Remoters or call butter Remoters,
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: go to the website butter remoters dot com. Lawn equipment time,
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: it's the season. I'm so glad that I relied on
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: butter Remoters after having a terrible box store experience. I
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: got a box store remote. It sucked. It counked out
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: midway through the very first time I used it. I
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: of course had to bring it home and pack it
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: back up and bring it back and Jim Jim Keefer
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: hurt me the westside. Jim Keifer, my friend Hermi, lamenting
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: that one day and he says, Brian Bud Herbert Motors,
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: It's like really, yes, oh, and what a great move
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: that was for me. I got Jim Herbert on the
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: phone working with me, and he knew what I kind
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: of what I wanted, because I explained I ended up
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: with a commercial grade Honda push mower. It's commercial grade.
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: It's designed to be used literally every single day, multiple
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: times a day, and I, of course don't use it
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: that much, which is probably one of the reasons. He
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: said it's a last mower I will ever have to buy.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Built that well, it starts up with one pole. Every
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: single time, with the exception of the first poll of
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: the season. That's a two pool job. It gets a running.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: They service everything that they sell. So I had my
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: lawns lawn more service by Bud Herbert. That's happened before.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: They'll deliver it to you. They delivered mine. I was
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: cutting my grass before the truck had even left the street.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: They know what they're doing. They've been locally owned, a
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: fifth generation Herbert family running the thing for more than
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: one hundred years. You will work with a Herbert family member.
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- 1:04:20Speaker 2: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: Hey forty one here if you have Kercity Talk station,
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: I hope you've been joined the last you know, last
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: hour in this current hour with Christopher Smith, and I
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: certainly have going through all the issues and moving beyond
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: since any politics a certain degree. I know you slew
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: to the American troops and God bless the American military.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: Tough job they've got, but they are truly performing in
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: amid so much global criticism. But moving back to matters local, Uh,
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: you have something else you want.
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: To bring up here, Christopher, Well, I think you touched
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: on it, which we are this discussion about raising our
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: taxes and you constantly hear the mayor floating this, we're
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: going to raise our income tax and it's because of
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: police want to I'm connecting issue twenty two meaning railroad money,
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: the railroad money and the promises made and the bait
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: and switch that we're seeing right now in front of us.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: This is the exact same kind of thing. So we've
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: got to wake up. This is not about cops, meaning
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: raising our taxes is not about cops. This is a
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: This is a council that has clearly sent the message
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: that they want to defund the police department. Reimagine the
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: police department. They've just asked the Police Department for a
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: five percent reduction. My point to you is that this
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: is about, in my opinion, right laziness not wanting to
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: cut their pet projects. Number one, meaning they're operating a
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: streetcar at five million dollars a year.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: I sound like a broken record, but it's real.
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: Those operating dollars are competing directly against the police, fire
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: and sanitation, the operation of the city. Every time you
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: and I discussed about this this is a streetcar. We
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: never said we were against rail or light rends. We
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: talked about the Capitol project. If you build it, they
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: will come. Now the operation of the streetcar. People are
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: not riding it. They're saying we're going to pay two
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: sixty five to ride it. Then it was a dollar
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: sixty five. Now they say it's free. Nothing is free.
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: Nothing's free. So we're spending five million dollars at least
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: a year to operate the streetcar. We're probably spending another
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: five million a year to service the debt, meaning the
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: debt that was issued the ninety four million, So we're
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: ten million dollars in every single year.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: My point forgot about that because when I think of
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: the five million figure that you normally reference that is
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: just what we have to pay to keep it running. Yes, maintenance, upkey,
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: electricity personnel. Yes, that does not touch upon a debt
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: service the interest we owe. So that's an extra five million.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: So that's upset. Okay, And here I'm glad you broke
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: it down that way because you did remind me of
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: that because Washington, DC just pulled the plug on their
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: street car. It's gone. Now that sounds like a plausible idea.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: So if you're going to say five million a year,
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: which basically would prevent the police department from being cut
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: five million bucks a year, you still have a long
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: term obligation to pay off the money you borrow to
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: build the damn thing.
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: You do, but you still free up money. But here's
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: the reality, Brian Thomas. They're wanting to raise taxes so
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: they can expand the street car. They want to go
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: up Vine to UC They want to go really bad.
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: They want to connect UC to downtown.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: And they keep.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: Floating this idea very very quietly. They don't have enough
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: money to do all the things that they want to do.
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, the community must
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: understand that the city is in the business to keep
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: us safe. To make sure that they fix our infrastructure,
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: our roads, and make sure they remove our snow when
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: it snows. To make sure they fix our roads and
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: our bridges. That's what we're down there to do. All
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: this other nonsense that you're hearing them talk about, it's
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: just craziness. Solar farm, I mean, that's not part of
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: the core services of the city. Since I s fists
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: involved with building solar panel farm. Ryan is so much
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: more he said core services. I could have said all
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: that and just said core services. No, solar farm is
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: not on that list and is not going to change
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: the planet's temperature. Nor anyway, Shaver for or is some
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: type of entertainment location, nor is nor is restaurants that
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: they keep trying to shine that they keep failing. You
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: saw what happened in Clifton with the Clifton grocery store
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: that now looks like it's going under.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could just name.
- 1:08:39Speaker 3: The project that they decided to pick winners and losers.
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: But you know the argument, I gotta go back to
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: this damn music venue, and I didn't think we had
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: the city since they had anything to do with it.
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: Long comes to cso Or Whoever's running it, says we
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: need some additional money, I guess, and the city says, fine,
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: here's eight million dollars or whatever the figure was. And
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: the argument that was made at the time, we're gonna
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: get a great return on investment. This money will translate
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: into X number of dollars because the new music venue
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: is going to bring in all kinds of people. And
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: I thought to myself, that's gonna happen anyway. If the
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: city doesn't pony up any money, they're still building it,
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: and therefore they will get the foot traffic revenue that
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: they claim is gonna come in, except they connected it
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: to an additional sum of money thrown at it by
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati, which was not unnecessary and I
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: think pointless and also just really really blows a hole
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: in this. Oh my god, we got to raise income
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: tax and the city and since a police department needs
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: to cut its budget by five percent, no, I'm sorry,
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: you can't make this right.
- 1:09:34Speaker 3: Last point, Brian, is that anybody driving around Cincinnati, right,
- 1:09:39Speaker 3: we are a dirty city. Right when you drive around,
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: you see trash everywhere. That's what I feel like when
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: I'm driving around. It's getting worse. It's getting worse. It's
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: getting worse. And I'm saying, look, if the mayor and
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: his staff are listening right now, clean up our city,
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: get people out there on the road and get this trash.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: Do what you're what you're down there to do.
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: My point is when I travel to other cities, when
- 1:10:06Speaker 3: I even travel just out of Cincinnati, if I go
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: to just just you know, just go up the road
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: a little bit, all of a sudden, the roads look
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: a lot cleaner. What is it about Cincinnati that we
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: can't keep our city roads, our highways right off. Whether
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: it's the Norwood Lateral, whether it's parts of seventy five
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: that are in the city, or whether it's forty two
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: Renting Road, whether it's paddocked Hills, whether it's Route fifty.
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: Why do they have to be so dll gone dirty?
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: And I'm saying the city has their eye off the ball,
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: and they're talking about things like this music venues, and
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: they're not handling the basic core services of the city.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: Eight forty eight fifty five KR City Talk Stations Nokoway
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: one more or a few more minutes with Christopher Smith
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: before we close out for the days.
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: I'll be right back fifty five KRC dot com get
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- 1:11:06Speaker 1: thirty three clear sky sunny and fifty tomorrow same Tuesday
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: night with a few clouds though thirty three and yes
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: a possible frost event. And Wednesday we'll go up to
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- 1:11:49Speaker 2: See the talk station.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: At two hit about Kerr City talk station wrapping things
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: up at Christopher Smith and it's been a joy to
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: have Christopher and studio for the last couple of hours.
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: Podcast is fifty got cares dot com. Oh thanks Sean
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: McMahon for covering for the vacation Joe Strekker Right now,
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: final comments, Christopher, I just seem to recall and wait
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: a second. They closed the police department, had District five
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: shut down over their objections, and they packed everybody over
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: in District three, which makes run times a lot longer.
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: Wasn't that supposed to save a whole bunch of money?
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: Twenty million, twenty million dollars? How did that work out?
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: Not well apparently, And they're still they're still in that
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: that strip mall. They've putting The owner of the Strip
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: Mall is loving it. They're putting millions two three four
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: million dollars into the Strip Mall, plus.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: Giving them all free law enforcement support. You never you
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: never have to worry about loiterers over in the Strip
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: mall hundred percent. Look, people can follow me on social
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: media at vote Smitherman.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: I'll leave there. I've appreciated the engagement on on X.
- 1:12:49Speaker 3: People have been sending me questions and engaging us here
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: on X, so I would encourage people please follow me
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: in between the week of the Smith events, uh to
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: follow me on at vote to Smitherman.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I do that, and you know it's always a
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: pleasure Heaven you in here, and I welcome you. Know
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: you've got experience. You were in the role of council
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: whever you were vice mayor of the city since our
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, and I
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: know you bring a lot of common sense and logic
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: and reason to this. And that's why a lot when
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: I see elections matter, and I'll clear out, I'll close
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: out with that elections matter. And most notably because you're
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: one a mixed bag of folks least interjecting alternative thoughts
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: and comments about what's going to work and what might
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: not work. You got a lockstep group of uniform all Democrats,
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: all blindly following the same set of talking points given
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: to them by somebody. You're never gonna change things. You're
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: never gonna get somebody.
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: And people can get to the Board of Elections today
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: by four o'clock update.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: You're a registration.
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: If you've moved between the elections, register your young people.
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: You should register to vote if you've never voted before,
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: we need you in the primary to vote, So today
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: is your last day to participate. Register or update your
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: address at the at the BOE in Norwood, and.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: We will we'll be talking about the very important issues
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: during the primary as we fast approach the well the
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: primary date here on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Folks,
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: I hope you have a wonderful day, thanks for tuning
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: in this morning, and I hope you had a wonderful weekend.
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: Most notably and given that it was Easter weekend, I
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: certainly did. And thank you very much to my family
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: for making yesterday such a special day for me. Tomorrow
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- 1:14:27Speaker 1: plus the Daniel Davis Deep Dive at eight thirty and
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: Lord Almighty on the day Donald Trump claims he's going
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: to start blowing up infrastructure and unleashing hell Fury on
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: the IRRA audience eight pm tomorrow evening. I'm really looking
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: forward to hearing what will Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis has
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: to say about that one and praying that the situation
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: where resolves favorably before that starts happening.
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: Great, folks, have a wonderful day.
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