Latest / The Radio From Hell Show - Best Of / Concerning List - Most/Least AI Proof Jobs From August 1st, 2025
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, I found a concerning list here concerning what's concerning
- 0:04Speaker 1: about you'll see, okay, concerning?
- 0:07Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, what what?
- 0:09Speaker 3: What's what's the list called?
- 0:11Speaker 4: It's the most and least AI proof jobs.
- 0:15Speaker 3: I'm concerned. Oh no, I'm very sorry. It's radio from
- 0:19Speaker 3: hell with another list because people love a good list.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Ninety six.
- 0:25Speaker 4: How likely is it that a bot will soon replace
- 0:28Speaker 4: you at work? Well, it depends on what you're doing
- 0:30Speaker 4: for a living. Microsoft has put out a list of
- 0:34Speaker 4: the most recent searches for which jobs are the least
- 0:36Speaker 4: and most vulnerable being replaced by artificial intelligence.
- 0:40Speaker 2: I will start with least vulnerable.
- 0:41Speaker 3: I can't I can't imagine where we.
- 0:43Speaker 5: Fall in this least vulnerable.
- 0:46Speaker 4: So this is to tell your kids to go into
- 0:47Speaker 4: these jobs because AI won't replace something.
- 0:50Speaker 3: I'm sure it's radio is least vulnerable.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Number ten logging equipment operators going.
- 0:55Speaker 3: To say, I was going to say ditch digging, but.
- 0:58Speaker 4: Harry, wait, it's okay. Number nine motor boat operators. You
- 1:04Speaker 4: could teach a robot if they can drive motor.
- 1:08Speaker 1: A motor boat operator. Rider is there is there a
- 1:10Speaker 1: big call for somebody? Hey, I need motor motor somebody.
- 1:15Speaker 3: To operate this motor boat not around here.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Number eight orderlies. Again, a roller could do that.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Order an order. It takes you.
- 1:25Speaker 2: I'm here to take you down to CT for your scan.
- 1:27Speaker 1: That's an orderly Oh okay, push your yeah, c an
- 1:30Speaker 1: a I bought.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Can can't push the gury and all of that.
- 1:34Speaker 4: Floor sanders, yeah, floor sanders yeah. Pile driver operators, yeah,
- 1:42Speaker 4: rail track laying in maintenance.
- 1:45Speaker 3: You gotta go out and lay lay some rail.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Water treatment plant system operators. I see.
- 1:50Speaker 4: I think they could maybe robot all of this. And
- 1:55Speaker 4: number one dredge operators.
- 1:57Speaker 5: Which that's that's stitch.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ditch digging on a huge scale. The world
- 2:02Speaker 3: needs ditch diggers too.
- 2:03Speaker 2: So here are the most vulnerable.
- 2:05Speaker 5: Okay, so these are most likely to be replaced by
- 2:08Speaker 5: are all ten of them?
- 2:09Speaker 4: Radio hold on interpreters and translators, which makes sense.
- 2:15Speaker 5: I've got I've got a translator on my phone.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Historians. That should frighten you.
- 2:20Speaker 5: That should frighten you.
- 2:23Speaker 4: What because a I will just grab stuff that's already
- 2:27Speaker 4: out there, and well.
- 2:28Speaker 1: I guess com pilot yeah, and and compile and keep
- 2:32Speaker 1: track of what's happening and catalog.
- 2:35Speaker 5: But it's but it's programmed by a person who can
- 2:39Speaker 5: decide what is history exactly.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Retail sales because because people don't shop.
- 2:48Speaker 4: In person anymore, you don't want writers and authors.
- 2:52Speaker 2: That's bad, yes, and I don't.
- 2:55Speaker 1: I don't like that, and I can I can understand
- 2:57Speaker 1: that that might happen, but I don't think that's.
- 3:00Speaker 2: I need real people writing.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Things and they and real people will continue to write things.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Uh, customer service representatives, that's already there. You can never
- 3:10Speaker 4: get if you can get a live person on the phone.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Well, and it's the chat, the chat, you know, the
- 3:15Speaker 1: minute you got anything, the chat bought pops up and
- 3:18Speaker 1: says how can I help you? And I was so,
- 3:21Speaker 1: I was naive and I very at first. When I
- 3:23Speaker 1: first started doing that, I thought I'm talking to a
- 3:26Speaker 1: real person, and I realized, no, I'm.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Not computer programmers.
- 3:32Speaker 4: Remember when we were telling our kids, you got to
- 3:34Speaker 4: go into computers because now they just programmed.
- 3:37Speaker 3: I always told my kid that kids they had to
- 3:39Speaker 3: go into plastics.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Telephone operators do we even have those?
- 3:44Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 3:44Speaker 2: Do they exist? Ticket agents?
- 3:48Speaker 4: You know?
- 3:48Speaker 2: You just that's disturbing because I need a person and uh,
- 3:54Speaker 2: the last one on the list broadcast.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Announcers and radio DJs most vulnerable to AI, which I
- 4:03Speaker 4: would say, we are in the same boat as writers
- 4:06Speaker 4: and authors. This should be considered a creative job that
- 4:14Speaker 4: AI can't do, because those are supposedly the AI proof
- 4:18Speaker 4: things is creative job.
- 4:20Speaker 1: We need to have some sort of test. Put me
- 4:22Speaker 1: up against a robot. Let's see what the people really like.
- 4:27Speaker 5: There was a radio station who had a mid day
- 4:31Speaker 5: person that was AI, female voice.
- 4:36Speaker 3: They didn't tell anybody that she was AI, and they.
- 4:40Speaker 5: Were selling her as though she was a real person,
- 4:43Speaker 5: and they got sued.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Did people like her?
- 4:47Speaker 5: No?
- 4:49Speaker 1: You know, we already have a lot people live on
- 4:53Speaker 1: the radio who could be replaced by AI, and and
- 4:57Speaker 1: it would be.
- 4:58Speaker 3: A better show. Yeah that' that's true.
- 5:00Speaker 1: There are a lot of live people on the radio
- 5:03Speaker 1: right now and on TV that if they were replaced
- 5:05Speaker 1: by AI, it would be.
- 5:07Speaker 3: A better program.
- 5:09Speaker 1: But I still would say that it can't replace a
- 5:14Speaker 1: really good program.
- 5:16Speaker 2: I don't.
- 5:17Speaker 4: I don't think AI creativity mix. AI can compile things
- 5:23Speaker 4: that already exist, and.
- 5:25Speaker 1: It can sound it can sound good or logical or whatever.
- 5:30Speaker 4: No, we had a consultant who, when AI was first
- 5:34Speaker 4: coming out, thought it would be fun if we did
- 5:37Speaker 4: a bit where we programmed it with our voices to
- 5:41Speaker 4: say things.
- 5:43Speaker 2: And Carrie was like, no, no, no, no, no.
- 5:45Speaker 5: No no, not going to do that, not going to do that.
- 5:49Speaker 4: It could happen without our So remember when the Screen
- 5:54Speaker 4: Actors Guild sued. Yeah, when they were having their contract
- 5:58Speaker 4: the last strike, one of their biggest quibbles, there was
- 6:03Speaker 4: a I I want control of.
- 6:05Speaker 2: My face and my voice exactly. You can't use me
- 6:09Speaker 2: in something without my consent or.
- 6:13Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's kind of a murky area though,
- 6:16Speaker 1: because I know that over the years, radio management would
- 6:21Speaker 1: argue we own we own.
- 6:23Speaker 3: You, We own your voice.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Whatever you have put in while you work for us,
- 6:29Speaker 1: we own it, so we own your voice.
- 6:31Speaker 5: They would say that they would probably lose.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Well, what you know, I think what they what they
- 6:37Speaker 1: could maybe win is we own your voice as long
- 6:41Speaker 1: as we're not using it to do new things when
- 6:44Speaker 1: you're not here. We still own the old stuff that
- 6:49Speaker 1: you did, but we don't own you can't create, can't
- 6:53Speaker 1: we can't create new stuff with your voice.
- 6:55Speaker 5: Well, I just remember that conversation with that with that consultant.
- 6:58Speaker 5: He said, it would be funny if you did that
- 7:00Speaker 5: because it would be Gina's voice replying to a question
- 7:03Speaker 5: that Bill had that she would never answer, but the
- 7:05Speaker 5: AI voice would answer right. And I said, no, I'm
- 7:08Speaker 5: not because once you do that, the AI company owns
- 7:12Speaker 5: your voice. They own what you give them. It's the
- 7:15Speaker 5: same with you know, Facebook and all of these they
- 7:18Speaker 5: own what you give them. And he said, well, somebody
- 7:20Speaker 5: could do that without your knowledge, and I said, yes,
- 7:23Speaker 5: but I could sue them.
- 7:24Speaker 1: But the real problem there is if you programmed it
- 7:28Speaker 1: to Gina's voice to answer a question that I posed
- 7:31Speaker 1: to it, the question would always ultimately be way better
- 7:34Speaker 1: than the real Gena's question, you know what, would So
- 7:39Speaker 1: we don't want to take that chance that every time
- 7:43Speaker 1: I interact with the AI Gena it's more pleasurable and
- 7:46Speaker 1: more entertaining.
- 7:47Speaker 2: You're so handsome, Bill already, I kind of like that. Yeah,
- 7:52Speaker 2: I agree with everything you say.
- 7:54Speaker 5: For six month, an Australian radio station aired a daily
- 7:57Speaker 5: show hosted by a young sounding woman named thigh thy Thy, cheerful,
- 8:03Speaker 5: confident and always on beat until listeners started to ask
- 8:07Speaker 5: who is she. Sydney based station CADA, owned by the
- 8:12Speaker 5: Australian Radio Network, ran work days with Thy. Every weekday
- 8:18Speaker 5: Thy introducing tracks, hosting music commentary for four hours a day.
- 8:23Speaker 5: The station promoted her as a fresh voice curating the
- 8:25Speaker 5: latest hits, never mentioned that she was a machine. I
- 8:30Speaker 5: hate this, and listeners grew suspicious. Thig had no last name,
- 8:35Speaker 5: no biography, no social presence. The station didn't let its
- 8:39Speaker 5: audience know that she wasn't.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Real until.
- 8:43Speaker 2: People started asking questions, I want real.
- 8:48Speaker 1: So now, was it on ethical? I would say it
- 8:52Speaker 1: was probably unethical. It was unethical for the radio station
- 8:56Speaker 1: to do that.
- 8:56Speaker 4: But I want all of the talking over each other
- 9:00Speaker 4: and stuttering and mispronouncing things and getting I.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Don't have any idea what you're talking about, and.
- 9:05Speaker 4: Getting getting things wrong and then correcting them yourself, and then.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Taking you mean you mean insight sources.
- 9:15Speaker 2: I didn't mention any names.
- 9:18Speaker 3: I didn't know. Lord of the Rings was a book. No,
- 9:22Speaker 3: it wasn't quite that bad. Well it was that bad actually.
- 9:25Speaker 5: Uh yeah. She was an AI generated voice clone from
- 9:29Speaker 5: a from an actual ARN employee, created in collaboration with
- 9:34Speaker 5: eleven Labs. No mic, no studio, just code and vibes.
- 9:39Speaker 4: By the way, when we're not here anymore, that's what
- 9:41Speaker 4: it I'll just warn you now, they're not going to
- 9:44Speaker 4: hire real people to come do what we're doing.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be I'm serious.
- 9:50Speaker 3: No, it's true.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Probably not, it'll just be. Or maybe they'll be one
- 9:55Speaker 1: real person.
- 9:56Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 9:56Speaker 3: It just records a bunch of stuff.
- 9:58Speaker 5: Well, there's a station in Townstry that fired their entire
- 10:01Speaker 5: air staff.
- 10:03Speaker 2: And all they have is just I.
- 10:05Speaker 5: That's just an iPod running now, essentially just music with liners, right, yep,
- 10:09Speaker 5: that's all it is. The entire air staff was fired.
- 10:14Speaker 4: So I hate I hate this. Yeah, and not just
- 10:18Speaker 4: for me like that, it's my job. I I like
- 10:23Speaker 4: listening to real people talking about real things on the radio.
- 10:27Speaker 4: I don't this makes me nervous.
- 10:29Speaker 1: I what you know, it's you like listening to real
- 10:36Speaker 1: people talk about real things on the radio. But if
- 10:39Speaker 1: it's not good, if they're not doing a good job
- 10:42Speaker 1: at it, then why not put on.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I would rather have bad real people than AI Bill.
- 10:49Speaker 2: I would rather have that.
- 10:51Speaker 3: I suppose I would.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Too, But but I but I understand the there are
- 10:58Speaker 1: things on the radio right now that are real people
- 11:00Speaker 1: that you could replace with AI, and the AI would
- 11:03Speaker 1: be more listenable.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I think that's dangerous and wrong.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't like it. I don't like it.