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  Speaker 1: Gives the report it Tonight, another immigration scandal for the
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  Speaker 1: Albanieze government letting in the father and brother of Palestinian terrorists,
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  Speaker 1: plus more immigration strife, ay blow out in numbers just
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  Speaker 1: when building approvals are at a record ten year low.
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  Speaker 1: How does that make sense? Also tonight a new party
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  Speaker 1: has been formed on a Muslim moments? Is the Muslim
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  Speaker 1: senator behind it? Except what does a stand for? And
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  Speaker 1: a new sexist rule in parliament be specially nice to
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  Speaker 1: female ministers.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone on the front bench, Member Barker, member for O'Connor
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  Speaker 2: just completely yelling it's unparliamentary, but it's also disrespectful, particularly
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  Speaker 2: when a female minister is on her feet.
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  Speaker 3: Order no.
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  Speaker 1: Order, seriously the new sexism. And I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: does this Albanzi government now have the smell of death
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  Speaker 1: but first or in fact speaking of exactly that anthink?
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  Speaker 1: The Albaneze does seem to be falling apart his authority,
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  Speaker 1: his judgment, his confidence. Yesterday was very bad for the
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  Speaker 1: premise today might have even been worse. Letting into Australia
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  Speaker 1: a patriarch of one of Garza's most prominent terrorist families
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  Speaker 1: and now not saying he'd throw the man out. I'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that astonishing scandal in the second. But Labor
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  Speaker 1: and Peace must now be panicking. I mean, Albanzi himself
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  Speaker 1: seems to be. I mentioned last night how he snapped
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  Speaker 1: under the pressure of completely mucking up even a supposedly
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  Speaker 1: bipartisan motion commemorating the horrendous Hamas attack on Israel a
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  Speaker 1: year ago. It was actually the oppositions idea, but then
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  Speaker 1: Albanis he tried to effectively make it say well, thisser,
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  Speaker 1: I should stopped fighting back, think of the Palestinians having
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  Speaker 1: the opposition, and told him, well, take a hike. We
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  Speaker 1: can't approve that Albanies are let fly, with an insult
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  Speaker 1: that left most of the labor ministers sitting behind him
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  Speaker 1: stony faced.
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  Speaker 4: It's nonsense that they carry on with the idea that
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  Speaker 4: where have you got Touret's or something? You know? You
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  Speaker 4: see there, Babbo babbo, bab order.
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  Speaker 1: Well, late at the evening, Albaniz he must have realized
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  Speaker 1: he'd really put his foot in it, and then came
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  Speaker 1: to the apology.
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  Speaker 4: Today in question time, I made comments that were unkind
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  Speaker 4: and hurtful. I knew it was wrong as soon as
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  Speaker 4: I made the comment. I apologized and I withdrew as
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  Speaker 4: soon as I said it. But it shouldn't have happened.
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  Speaker 4: And I also want to apologize to all Australiallians who
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  Speaker 4: suffer from this disability. I regret saying it was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: There was insensitive, and I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: But today more fresh hell Albanezi once again made the
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  Speaker 1: same mistake has been making for a year. Trying too
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  Speaker 1: hard not to offend his parties and Israel Left and
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  Speaker 1: Muslims in Western Sydney, trying too hard not to see
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  Speaker 1: him on Israel's side in what is a war to
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  Speaker 1: defend civilization, just ended up looking unprincipled and weak, weak
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  Speaker 1: and weak. This time he was asked by SCO and
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  Speaker 1: newsers Kieran Gilbert, Prime Minister, you keep saying that Israel
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  Speaker 1: does have a right to defend himself. Okay, then do
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  Speaker 1: you at least support Israel going into Lebanon to fight
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  Speaker 1: the Hesbelo terrorist army that's fared nine thousand rockets and
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  Speaker 1: missiles at Israel over the past year.
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  Speaker 5: Do you support them going into degrade Hesbelah now?
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  Speaker 3: Because to defend himself's.
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  Speaker 4: Push back with support Israel's right to defend itself, and
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  Speaker 4: how it defends itself matters. It's the same position that
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  Speaker 4: the G seven countries have had.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Israel's got a right to defend heself with Alberanizic
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  Speaker 1: and everything of a way that it can do it
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  Speaker 1: that he could approve of. And he wasn't even telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth there, because even US President Joe Biden says
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  Speaker 1: Israel is entitled to go after Hesbelah in Lebanon. Albanese
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  Speaker 1: is no leader who's not even trying to lead, but
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  Speaker 1: to the scandal today that tells you his weakness is
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  Speaker 1: so bad that it's making you less safe. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: his government has incredibly let in a member of one
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  Speaker 1: of Gaza's most prominent terrorist families. And even more incredibly,
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  Speaker 1: now that it has all been exposed, Albanese is not.
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  Speaker 3: Now promising to throw this guy out.
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  Speaker 1: This extraordinary case Affaires el Hassani exposes not just Albanese's
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  Speaker 1: and fitness for office, it also shows up the anti
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  Speaker 1: Israel spin of the media left.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: You may have first read of el Hassani when the
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  Speaker 1: Canberra Times and other newspapers published a tearish story about
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  Speaker 1: this seventy two year old Palestinian nimed Gaza artist in
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales after ten of his family killed.
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  Speaker 3: The story, written.
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  Speaker 1: By AAP reporter Farid Farid, who manically tweets anti Israel propaganda,
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  Speaker 1: started like many of the reports that are now painting
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  Speaker 1: Israel as satanic. Fayaz al Hassani always wakes up in
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  Speaker 1: the dead of night at the same time in Israelia,
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  Speaker 1: strike hit the home where he was sheltering in Gaza,
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  Speaker 1: killing ten members of his family.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the deaths of the children in that strike are tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: But nowhere in the story was there even a hint
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  Speaker 1: of why Israel blew up the home of el Hassani's
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  Speaker 1: son Muhammad on November twenty four, killing him and most
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  Speaker 1: of his family. No, apparently this is just some random
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  Speaker 1: child murdering violence like you'd expect from Israel. Genocide, said
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  Speaker 1: El Hassani. But the story said, well, at least you
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  Speaker 1: know silver liarning. El Hashani has since been led into Australia,
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  Speaker 1: where we're going to treat his injured leg, and his
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  Speaker 1: son Yusuf has also we missed out on well. Sadly
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  Speaker 1: on the nearly three thousand tourist visas issued by Albanese's
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  Speaker 1: government two Palestinians from terrorists roun Gaza without an interview.
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  Speaker 1: But Ela Shani's daughter said that she's in Sydney. She
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  Speaker 1: said he'd hoped her brother would still get here so
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  Speaker 1: that you know, Strangs can medically care for him as well.
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  Speaker 1: So a tale of depraved Israeli evil and poor suffering
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  Speaker 1: innocent Palestinians.
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  Speaker 3: And he's getting Albanese his help. But now for the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Alshani as another son, abd al al Rahman, who told
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  Speaker 1: Lebanese television a story two days after that bombing last
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  Speaker 1: year that must make the rest of us question not
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  Speaker 1: just Albanize's competence, but that of Asia, the intelligence agency
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  Speaker 1: which supposedly checks who we are letting in from Gaza. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this son said his brother, Mohammad Alfhani's son as well.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly Israel's target in that bombing was actually a commander
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  Speaker 1: of the operations unit of the Al Kuds Brigade, which
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  Speaker 1: is the armed wing of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, that's
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  Speaker 1: what it's called, which helped start this war with Israel
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  Speaker 1: by joining a ma as terras and massacring twelve hundred Jews.
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  Speaker 1: And this brother wasn't the only terrorist in that family.
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  Speaker 6: Me that Hasani Alad at Cavite, what cride Marc come
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  Speaker 6: and who can have even know no and he can
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  Speaker 6: Sanat Lamad can ristern Mouth. And now there's other names
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  Speaker 6: that abd Rahm and this Palestinian go and Sidney's son
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  Speaker 6: boaster of there you're in boasting of with just some
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  Speaker 6: of the other family members are also been terrorists until
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  Speaker 6: Israel killed them like that Uncle Iadel Hassani, a member
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  Speaker 6: of the Islamic g House top military council.
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  Speaker 1: No less, who Alasani, his brother now in Sydney used
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  Speaker 1: to urge Muslims that death he exploited. He said Muslims
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  Speaker 1: must now confront the Zionist enemy, saying the enemy must.
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  Speaker 3: Always fear us.
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  Speaker 1: And there's more terrorists in this very bloody clan, as
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  Speaker 1: Cleaire Armstrong revealed in a brilliant investigation in the Daily
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  Speaker 1: Telegraph in the Herald Sun today, Alisnier had two other
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  Speaker 1: terrorist sons, including Alwood's brigade's leader Rema, and he also
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  Speaker 1: had a nephew Farmi, a Palestinian resistance terrorist. And all
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  Speaker 1: the lasts now killed along with brother Sami of the
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  Speaker 1: Alaxa Martyrs Brigade, which is yet another listed terrorist group,
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  Speaker 1: and there were more. Now it's true that Alissani himself
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  Speaker 1: isn't a member of any terrorist group, but he did
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  Speaker 1: host the gathering of terrorist leaders in twenty nineteen in
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  Speaker 1: the cultural center that he led, and he called on
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  Speaker 1: people to support Palestinian resistance and he said, confront the
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  Speaker 1: occupation Israel by all possible means. So how on earth
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  Speaker 1: did this man get a visa to come here? And
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  Speaker 1: how did days missus terrorist links or did they simply
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  Speaker 1: not matter to it? Might be Alshani might be the
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  Speaker 1: kind of person that Albany is actually happy to let in,
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  Speaker 1: being so desperate to placate his party's hard left and
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  Speaker 1: Israel supporters, to plicate Buslim voters in Western Sydney. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just this week, Albany is he evacuated more than a
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  Speaker 1: thousand Australians who've been living in Lebanon, presumably Lebanese Australians,
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  Speaker 1: and now I want to escape Israel attack on his blood.
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  Speaker 1: Terrorists Now SCA News, as I showed you last night,
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  Speaker 1: he interviewed one of them who loudly praised Hesbalah. May
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  Speaker 1: remind you it's a banned terrorist group in this country,
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  Speaker 1: and he vilified Israel again as I showed you last night.
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  Speaker 7: As defending Lebanon. From there, the Israeli invade is really
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  Speaker 7: the invade Lebanon, the Lebanon many times before and his
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  Speaker 7: Zoe who are defending our land and they have the
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  Speaker 7: right to fight the Israeli invasion.
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  Speaker 1: Albani is he flew that bloke here for free. But
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  Speaker 1: in Parliament today Albany's in his Home affairsments of Tony
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  Speaker 1: Burke acted like you know, importing even that patriarch of
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  Speaker 1: that plan that boasts many top terrorists at no big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Asked if him now cancel Alasan's visa, Burke scoffed.
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  Speaker 8: There was a further check that was made in March
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  Speaker 8: of every single visa holder within this case load, either
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  Speaker 8: on shore or offshore. All of those checks have been
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  Speaker 8: made if at any point, if at any point our
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  Speaker 8: security agencies gave advice to the government that a visa
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  Speaker 8: should be care then the government of course.
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  Speaker 5: Would takes seriously that advice.
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  Speaker 8: But the concept that we should abandon our security agencies
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  Speaker 8: and defer instead to google searchers from the opposition is
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  Speaker 8: not something this government will do.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about putting your fingers in your ears and shouting
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  Speaker 1: la la la la la. Not my responsibility, it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: kicking the can down. Oh, it's asier. A real prime
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  Speaker 1: minister would be outraged that Asio had either missed al
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  Speaker 1: Hasani or waved him through to live in Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: A real leader.
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  Speaker 1: Would say that anyone with those reported connections was unwelcome.
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  Speaker 3: But albany Easy has given up leading. Why is he
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  Speaker 3: still there joining me?
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  Speaker 1: Is the opposition's Home Affairs spokesman, Senator James Patterson. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for coming on the show.
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  Speaker 7: Senator.
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  Speaker 1: Look, should this man, Fayaz al Hassani be in Australia.
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  Speaker 9: The shoutout to that is obviously no. Andrew and I
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  Speaker 9: thought that editorial you just gave was very powerful and
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  Speaker 9: it included some fresh new information about Fayaz al Hasani,
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  Speaker 9: which makes it even more worrying that he was granted
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  Speaker 9: a visa. I want to be clear, I'm not in
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  Speaker 9: any way critical of AZIO or the dedicated, professional, patriotic
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  Speaker 9: people who work there. The problem is I think they've
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  Speaker 9: been given an impossible task by the Albanezer government. It
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  Speaker 9: emerged through an order for production of documents that I
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  Speaker 9: secured in the Senate a few weeks ago that more
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  Speaker 9: than two thousand Gaza tourist visas were referred to ASIO
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  Speaker 9: in March this year. And there's two problems with that. One,
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  Speaker 9: they were referred to ASIO after the visas were granted,
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  Speaker 9: not before they are granted. And secondly, that is an
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  Speaker 9: extraordinarily large volume of visas for Azio to consider. And
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  Speaker 9: so it is not surprising that someone like this could
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  Speaker 9: get in who I don't think would meet the criteria
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  Speaker 9: for a security but also clearly does not meet the
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  Speaker 9: criteria for a character assessment. Someone who has advocated terrorism,
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  Speaker 9: has links to terrorists, who has published artwork which is
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  Speaker 9: anti Semitic, and which glorifies terrorism. All of those things
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  Speaker 9: should have fallen a foul of the low bar of
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  Speaker 9: character assessment, lit alone the higher bar of a security assessment.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I know politicians are usually very, very anxious not
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  Speaker 1: to be seen to be criticizing Asio. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: whether you rely on their leaks or you're looking ahead
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  Speaker 1: that you've got to work with them, But honestly, I
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  Speaker 1: saw Tony Burke. They're deploring, ah mocking just a Google
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  Speaker 1: search if you can google this guy's name and see
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  Speaker 1: all these links, just the simple Google search. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even an ASIO operative. Then you've got to wonder, surely
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  Speaker 1: how ASIO missed all those red flags, or worse, how
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  Speaker 1: it didn't miss them and still didn't get the government
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  Speaker 1: to boot him out.
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  Speaker 9: Andrew, I think we all saw what the problem was today.
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  Speaker 9: It was standing in question time. And the problem's name
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  Speaker 9: is Tony Burke and the other problem's name is Anthony Albanezi.
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  Speaker 9: Because even when presented with this information on the front
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  Speaker 9: page of a newspaper, they were both unmoved by it.
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  Speaker 9: They were both unconcerned by it. They both didn't see
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  Speaker 9: what the problem was.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 9: Mike Burgess's ASIO Director General, has publicly set out the
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  Speaker 9: test here. In his interview with seven point thirty with
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  Speaker 9: Sarah Ferguson, he said, anybody who's simply tweeted in support
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  Speaker 9: of Hamas or tweeted in support of the destruction of
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  Speaker 9: the state of Israel is a security problem from Australia
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  Speaker 9: and quote would not pass muster. Now, faz Al Hasani
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  Speaker 9: has done far more than just tweet in support of
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  Speaker 9: terrorist organizations. Through his family members, He's directly linked to
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  Speaker 9: those terrorist organizations. As you've documented, he has publicly hosted
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  Speaker 9: them at his institute, he did a press conference with them,
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  Speaker 9: he advocated their cause. I mean, all of those things
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  Speaker 9: should be enough information now that they are in the
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  Speaker 9: possession of the minister and the government to act, and
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  Speaker 9: yet still they are not. So I think it's very
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  Speaker 9: clear what the problem here is. Labor Party.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget that the ASIO boss a month earlier,
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  Speaker 1: more than a month earlier, had said, well, if they
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  Speaker 1: merely advocate for hamas, that's not necessarily a reason we'd
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  Speaker 1: throw them out.
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  Speaker 3: It had to be more active than that. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think he spoke frankly the first time, unfortunately, But
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  Speaker 1: here's another ground for him to be thrown out. You've
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  Speaker 1: put the case very well. I'll tell you something else
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  Speaker 1: to apply to come in here as this tourist or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: He should have answered honestly question a question on the
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  Speaker 1: application form, page ten. I think it's number thirty nine.
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  Speaker 1: The question is have you ever been associated with an
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  Speaker 1: organization engaged in violence or engaged in acts of violence
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  Speaker 1: including war, insurgency, freedom fighting, terrorism, protest. Now, if he
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  Speaker 1: answered honestly yes, I have half my family's in that
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  Speaker 1: he should have been stopped if he lied and said no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you should be thrown out, shouldn't he?
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  Speaker 9: That's right, Andrew. Neither you or I know how he
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  Speaker 9: answered that question. But as you say, if he fessed
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  Speaker 9: up to being associated with a terrorist organization, his visa
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  Speaker 9: never should have been approved in the first place. And
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: if he lied about his associations with terrorist organizations, then
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  Speaker 9: that is comfortable grounds for canceling his visa. Now I
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  Speaker 9: cannot fathom why Tony Burke has not asked his department
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  Speaker 9: to provide a brief on this case. He's asked for
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  Speaker 9: it in other cases that are not as egregious as
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  Speaker 9: this one. I would have thought this is a really
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  Speaker 9: clear cutcase and nothing to see here. Act that we
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: saw from Tony Burke in question time today was arrogance,
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  Speaker 9: It was dismissive and frankly, he is being reckless with
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  Speaker 9: Australian's safety. We should not be importing any supporters of
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  Speaker 9: terrorism or any people directly linked to terrorist organizations into
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  Speaker 9: our country. Zero is the acceptable number of those people
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  Speaker 9: to come to our country, and yet Tony Burke and
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  Speaker 9: the Prime Minister apparently completely blase about this, like there's
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  Speaker 9: no consequences for our country of doing this.
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  Speaker 1: And lastly, James Patterson, the Prime Minister Day said yet again, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I support Israel's right to defend itself. He has never
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  Speaker 1: ever mentioned one thing Israel's done that he actually does support.
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  Speaker 1: The principle yes, the practice no, But yet again he
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  Speaker 1: refused to support anything it's doing, including going into Lebanon
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  Speaker 1: to take out Hezbela Terris, do you support Israel doing that?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, I strongly support Israel doing what it needs to
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  Speaker 9: do to restore to terrence in the region, to put
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: Iran back in its box, and to dismantle the terrorist
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  Speaker 9: networks on its border, whether that's in Lebanon or Gaza.
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  Speaker 9: We have a Prime minister who's been speaking out of
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  Speaker 9: both sides of his mouth. On the one hand, he
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  Speaker 9: says Israel can defend itself, but on the other hand
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  Speaker 9: he says there should be an immediate cease far. Well,
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  Speaker 9: how on earth does Israel defend itself if there's a
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  Speaker 9: ceasefar The Foreign Minister Pennywong has said that Hamas has
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  Speaker 9: no role in the future governance of Gaza, but there
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  Speaker 9: should be a cease far well, how does she think
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  Speaker 9: we're going to get Hamas out of Gaza if not
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  Speaker 9: through the IDF. I mean, this government is completely divided
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  Speaker 9: on this issue, can't give an honest answer on this
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  Speaker 9: issue because they are torn between the national interest and
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  Speaker 9: our national security interest and their electoral interests.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and it keeps saying, oh, how muss must at
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  Speaker 1: least you release the hostages. Hasn't done it in a year,
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  Speaker 1: so how is it going to make it do it?
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  Speaker 1: There's only one force on earth that will make how
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  Speaker 1: mus do that. It's called the Israeli Defense Force. James Patterson,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. After the break,
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  Speaker 1: a Muslim senator today forms a new political party after
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: ratting on Labor, but she can't actually say what it
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  Speaker 1: stands for. I think you guess. And is the Prime
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Minister finished the panel after this. Honestly, the incompetence, the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: incoherence of this government, the lack of direction, is so
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: extraordinary that I think I smell political death. Joining me
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  Speaker 1: is the panel Cameron Milner, former chief of staff to
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  Speaker 1: Labor leader Bill Shorten, now director of g xo's strategies.
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  Speaker 3: And Michael Costs, the former New South Wales Labor Treasurer.
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  Speaker 1: Cameron, it's just a solu shit every week we say this.
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  Speaker 1: I think that it has been an absolute horror week
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: for the Prime Minister. He's looked rattled, the Turette syndrome,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: insult that he has had to apologize for, for instance,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: what's happening with him?
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  Speaker 3: Where is this going? Well?
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Australian politics reached a new low because of Albow's slur
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: on people with disability. Andrew, I mean, it was disgusting, disgusting,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: but it rolled off his tongue so easily, didn't it
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: so easily? And that's what I think we're seeing. We're
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: seeing the real Albow. This is what he's really like.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: This is what he's like with Tony Burke and Penny
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Wong in private. When he starts throwing slurs around like this.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: It was disgusting. It dishonored the Labor Party, dishonored the
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: role of Prime minister, and it was awful for anyone
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: who's either got a disabled relative or a disabled child
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: to hear that from the lead of Australia. So he
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: should hang his head in shame, Andrew. But I think
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: he's losing it. I think he's under such incredible pressure,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: much of it self made, and he's absolutely losing it
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: in front of our public gaze.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: But Michael cost.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Is, I think he's losing it in part because well
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: simply he's facing the fact that his incompetences, mistakes, the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: government's drift is coming back to bat him. I mean,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I showed last night Jews in Melbourne on Sunday, the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: commemoration for the dead a year Agotober seven. They were
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: heckling him because they feel they've been betrayed. He has
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: show no leadership and I think that's coming really for him.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I think he realizes that now.
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: Look, the government's completely rattled and their behavior on Israel
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: has been appalling, you know, trying to send two men
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: messages one to Western Sydney and western suburbs of Melbourne's
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: really not working. People are seeing through it. He's the
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: behavior on that motion was appalling, you know, and it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: political misjudgment after political misjudgment, and you can see that
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: this is a rattled government and I don't see any
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: solution going forward because the economic issues are still there.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: They're not being able to be addressed, and they won't
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: be addressed in the short term.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I just wonder where it's all going to land camera.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're looking at the first one term government
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: in our history, or is it going to stagger through
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to something worse, ruling in coalition almost with the Greens
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: not in formal coalition but needing their every support.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: It could be all those things, and certainly Albo is
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: doing his level best, level best to make sure that
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Labor loses the next federal election. But look at the
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: caucus members, look at his deputy leader, look at the
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: people behind. They're shocked on their faces with just how
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: appooringly bad he actually is.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't notice that, although there was some laughing.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Who should now hang their heads in shame and be
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: glad the Campan didn't pick them up, Michael. Today, the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: government did try desperately to shift the conversation by raising
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: repeatedly in Parliament a new scare campaign that the Liberals
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: are going to sell the NBN if they get into government.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Have listened, We know.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: The coalition wants to sell the NBN, just like they
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: sold Telstra.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: The NBN was built by Australians for Australians, and.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It belongs to Australians, and.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: It belongs in public hands, Missus s Vegan, because it
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: should be affordable and accessible to all Australians.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And the government's proposing a law that will bind the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: hands of future governments to stop them selling the NBN,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: which is a joke. Would the Liberals really sell the NBN,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Michael Costa and should they?
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: Well, it's unsaleable, Andrew. I mean, let's be clear what
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: we're dealing with you. We're dealing with an entity that
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: costs sixty billion dollars to put together, is probably worth
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: between twenty and thirty billion, and last year I had
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: lost one point one billion dollars. Look, the reason nobody
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: will sell this in government is that you'll have to
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: bring all of that debt to book and it'll increase
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: the reported government debt. And you know, it's quite extraordinary
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: scare campaign. It's just mad, to be honest with you.
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: It confirms the view that this is one of the
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: worst labor governments we've ever had. Let's not forget that
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: Julia Gillard sold Telstra shares to set up the NBN,
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: if I remember rightly, and then we go back to Hawk.
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: You know there's CBA Quantas Australian Airlines ossat from Memory
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: and a range of other entities were sold by the
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: best Labor government and that was to put the fund
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: somewhere else. But unfortunately the NBN is a dud. It's
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: got competition from things like Starlink, the Musk Entity, which
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: are providing in regional Australia services much more effective and
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: much more cost effective. So look, I don't know who
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: woul buy it. I don't see the super fun standing
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: to buy it. It's a disaster.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: But the whole thing is so stupid about this, Cameron,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: is that selling the NBN was actually Labour's idea from
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the start. Here is then Labor Premiers Kevin run in
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine promising exactly that when announcing this
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: mega NBN scheme.
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: Here is the government will make an additional investment in
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: this company, but intends to sell down its interest in
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: the company within five years after the network is built.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Did the Albani's his office actually forget that, no doubt,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: no doubt.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: And look, Andrew, this is a look squirrel moment. Wasn't
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: it throw a scare campaign out there to distract people
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: from the Turet's comment. I mean this is just wholes
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: one one just done badly by these guys. So nothing
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: to see really here, just a scare campaign.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Andrew, Well, I don't know if it's going to work.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: We'll see the papers tomorrow. I suspect not.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think the public's heart is beating for the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: NBN like it might have done for Medicare.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Michael.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Today, the former Labour Center to Fatima Payment launched her
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: own political party.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Now, as you know, she quit.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Labor for not being more anti Israel over Gaza, so
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: she stole the seat from them. But today she didn't
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: mention Gaza. She trained and said to make the party
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: seem much broader. She was quoting the Liberals founders, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Robert Menzies is quoting GoF Whitlam on the labor side,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to appeel the wall. Except she couldn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: actually say what her policies were issues.
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: It is with great humility and deep responsibility that I
• 26:58
  Speaker 11: announced the formation of Australia's Voice, a new political party
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: for the disenfranchised, the unheard and those yearning.
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: For real change.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: What's the purpose of the part?
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: Great question, Tom. We're obviously launching the party today. The
• 27:16
  Speaker 11: policy platform will come in time. And I'm very excited
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: to publicly announce them in due course.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: What do you make of this, Michael, have any impact?
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: Absolutely none. She's a political amateur, political fraud. You could
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: argue alban News is right on one thing. If she's
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: serious about this, she should resign, hand the seat back
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: to Labor and stand in her own right with her
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: nascent political party and its policies. I will be really
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: intrigued to see what their policies are on gay and
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: trans rights. That will be interesting to see. And I'm
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: sure that you're going to see this thing, you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: disappear very very quickly. But she should resign. I mean
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: she's there on false pretenses.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's Cameron.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Oh well, you know Australia's voice, Albanese voice. Didn't she
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: see what happened to the referendum? I mean this is
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: this is a political tragic looking for a campaign. But seriously, seriously,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: she she will now have to rule out getting political
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: funding and sponsorship from Iran and Hasibler and a Mass
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: because she's not an Australian voice. She's an apologist for
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: his labbing extremists. Let's call it as it is and
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: let's rule out that those evil actors around the world
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: don't fund her political party to do eat more evil
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: in Australia. She has to rule out being funded by Iran.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: That's what she has to do.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Andrew, Well, I'm sure she would rule out being funded
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: by Iran, and she would say, I'm not. She's not
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: supporting Islamic terrorism of any kind, but she is giving comfort,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I would think, inadvertently whatever to people of very radical
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: disposition here. I mean, let's not forget how this all started.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: She wants labor to be even more anti anti Israel.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, for heaven, say Michael Costa, Cameron Milner, thank
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you very much to you both. After the break as
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: sensational sex and business scandal plus a new ruling by
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the Federal Parliament, speaker tells us this new feminism may
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: actually be to treat women as weak? Is sexism really
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the new feminism? Two things I saw today, Maybe wonder hello?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Is sexism the new feminism? I mean I taught totally
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: bought the old feminism, most of it. I mean I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: agreed women, well, they are supposed to be treated as equals.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But if that is still true, then Milton Dick, Speaker
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of our House of representatives is a sexist. Listen to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: how he reacted when not politicians today heckled communication. She's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: been to Michelle Roland as she beat up that NBN.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Scared everyone on the front bench.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Member Barker, Member for O'Connor, just completely yelling. It's unparliamentary.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: But it's also disrespectful, particularly when a female minister is
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: on her feet, order no.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Order.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I don't find that absolutely amazing. I mean, politicians must
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: now be especially gentle with female ministers. It sounds to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: me like an insult to Michelle Roland there, who strikes
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: me as being as tough as any male politicians. She
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: now needs patronizing instead, a little male arm around her shoulder,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you know, to keep really And there's a second example
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: of this reverse feminism today when I read this story
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in The Australian billionaire accused of providing business advice and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: funding in exchange for sexual relationship. It's about a sensational
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: court battle between Sydney billionaire Richard White and a former
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: lover beauty entrepreneur Linda Rogan, who was once in the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: running for a spot on Real Housewives of Sydney. So
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's a soft touch this person. Now,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I won't go into the details of this case, but
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Rogan has told the court that she slept with White
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: after he flew to New York to talk about investing
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in her bionic wellness business. Now, she said, when I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: arrived at the Parklane Hotel to check in, I was
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: informed that only one suite had been arranged. I realized
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that Richard expected me to enter into a sexual relationship
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: with him to fulfill the promise that he would invest
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in my business. So I stayed with Richard in his
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: suite and a relationship became sexual. Well, if that is
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: what White actually did, and I don't know, he's a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: cad absolutely, but she said so she slept on me. Well,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: other women I believe would probably not have decided to
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: have sex just for the money.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: It was, in this case a.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Lot, you know, a million dollar salary, the rental of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a thirteen point one million dollar Vorklu's house that White
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: actually bought for Rogan. And it seems like I said
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that Rogan isn't really the type to be pushed around.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Given all that, an alternative headline seemed to me possible.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Not billionaire accused of providing funding for a sexual relationship.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: But a woman admits to sleeping with billionaire to get funding,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: So why not? Why is white made out to be
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the only bad in this story unless women are always
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the weaker sex. And I don't know if I want
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to believe that, I don't know.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Should I joining me?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: In culture wars Is Rowndine, editor in chief of the Spectator,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Australian hosts of Outsiders on Skar News every Sunday.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: At nine am.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Now, like me, Rowan, you are a gallant man. But
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Milton Dick, nevertheless, the speaker telling politicians not to shout,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: particularly if for a female minister was speaking. I mean
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: one menp Tony Passion was so amazed by that ruling
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: he protests was bootoo out of Parliament?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: What do you make of it?
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, as you say, I'm a gallant man, but
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: I am also, like so many men today, a very
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: proud feminist, which is why every Monday morning, when I
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: hear the bin truck coming around the corner, I rush
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: out excitedly to meet my first female garbo coming along,
• 33:36
  Speaker 12: sweating along, putting the bins and all the rubbish in.
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: I've yet to meet one but every Monday morning I
• 33:41
  Speaker 12: rush out confident that this is the day I will
• 33:44
  Speaker 12: find a female garbo who's punched through that glass ceiling
• 33:48
  Speaker 12: and is standing up for feminism. But you see, Andrew,
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: it only ever works one way. We get more and
• 33:53
  Speaker 12: more female CEOs, we get more and more female politicians,
• 33:57
  Speaker 12: we even get more and more female communications minute. And
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: this is where this whole thing becomes very interesting. Indeed,
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: because of course, there's really only two ways of looking
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: at the entire feminist argument. Either you can choose which
• 34:14
  Speaker 12: one you prefer. Either women are the fairer sex, this
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: is the traditional point of view, responsible for bringing children
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: into the world and largely responsible for the well being
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: of those children, and therefore women are to be nurtured.
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: They are more fragile under this argument, they need taken
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: care of by the male, who traditionally is the stronger
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: of the species. That's one way of looking at the world.
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: The other way of looking at the world, Andrew, is
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: that we are all equals, and that whatever perceived differences
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: may exist, we're all equally capable of doing exactly and
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: precisely the same jobs. Now where it gets interesting, as
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: I said, is that the woman at the center of
• 34:59
  Speaker 12: this parliamentary discussion. Who the speaker felts was being disrespected
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: by being yelled at happens to be our Communications Minister,
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: the very woman who is bringing in a law which
• 35:15
  Speaker 12: says that she, above all else and her public servants
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: can decide what is the truth and what isn't the truth,
• 35:23
  Speaker 12: and will even find social media companies and others and
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: send them to prison if they dare to publish repeatedly
• 35:31
  Speaker 12: a falsehood. So I would like the Communications Minister who
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: will if the combat and Misinformation and Disinformation laws come
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: into being, please tell us what is the truth? Is
• 35:42
  Speaker 12: the truth? The first argument? I said that women are
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: the fairer sex and need protecting and need cushioning from
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: being yelled at, for example, Or are women equally capable
• 35:53
  Speaker 12: of being garbos grave diggers, deep sea divers, whatever else
• 35:58
  Speaker 12: you might name as not a terribly attractive profession.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Which is it?
• 36:02
  Speaker 12: Because one of them, according to the new regime of labor,
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: will either be the truth and one will be the falsehood,
• 36:09
  Speaker 12: and you will be a company, will be fined or
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: even people sent to jail if they get it wrong.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: So which is it? Well?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I thank you for rescuing me from this difficult conversation. Yes,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I should just bow out and let the government decide
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: for me what the truth is. And until I get
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the memo, I won't say a word more. But I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: do think it's really weird of the speaker. I think
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: he'll be embarrassed on reflecting on what he just said.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I noticed there was a telling pause before he said,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: especially if it's a female minister, like a voice in
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: his head was saying, don't say this, don't say this.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: But he did.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Talk to Tony Patient tomorrow and find out what his reaction.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Has been booted out but talking about protecting women ROM
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: sixty minutes the American version of it on CBS in America,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: sure protected Kamala Harris, the Democrat candidate for president, but
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: cleaning up her word saladancer typical word set an answer
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to make it look more intelligent. Listen first of what
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: she really said and then what CBS put to wear it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.
• 37:21
  Speaker 13: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
• 37:26
  Speaker 13: in a number of movements in that region by Israel
• 37:32
  Speaker 13: that were very much prompted by or a result of
• 37:38
  Speaker 13: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen
• 37:41
  Speaker 13: in the region.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.
• 37:46
  Speaker 13: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
• 37:50
  Speaker 13: the United States to be clear about where we stand
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: on the need for this war to end.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether they didn't just bother interviewing an
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: AI and get preferred version.
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: Well, I have to say my admiration for Kamala Harris
• 38:08
  Speaker 12: grows by the day. I mean, seriously, she has managed now, however,
• 38:12
  Speaker 12: many weeks she's been the nominee to use words, spout words,
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: put words out their phrases, gerums, clauses, you name it,
• 38:22
  Speaker 12: without actually ever saying a single thing. Now, to manipulate
• 38:26
  Speaker 12: the English language to such a degree that you can
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: use thousands of words, I mean, the Rogers Thesaurus must
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: be by her bedside.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Every evening as she goes through it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: Okay, And that last example that you gave are the
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: advocacy of the position of the movement of that where
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: we go to. It's genius stuff, It's genius. It is
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: devoid of meaning. It's terrifying to think that this woman
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: could be the next step president of President of the
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: United States and leader of the free world. But her ability,
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: she does have one great skill which is unparalleled, and
• 38:57
  Speaker 12: that is to just throw as many words out there
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: without ever landing at anything that resembles a single useful
• 39:05
  Speaker 12: meaning extraordinary.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I think you do have to defer to the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: CBS verdict there the sixty minutes verdict. They have decreed
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that the real Kamala Harris is not ready for prime time.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: She has to create, with careful editing, someone who is,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: but it's not her.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Rwandan, thank you so much indeed for your time.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Oh dear, by the way, I should I tell you
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: before I go to the break one of the ABC's
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: most consistently left wing broadcasters is quitting. Patricia Carvellis is
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: quitting as host of Radio National Breakfast, where she happens
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to have lost more than a third of her audience
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: over the past three years, illustrating that the victim, the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: famous victim go broke. I mean, she's cheered on the voice,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: she's gone with the global warming scares, she's gone with
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the entire obviously leftist vibe and there now she's a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: very nice person. I know that, but really she's going
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to go to some other minor ABC role.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: But what does this tell you? Like I said, go worke,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: go broke.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: After the break heading for a housing disaster shock, new
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: figures show that we're building fewer houses just when we're
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: bringing in more mirgrants. I'll show you a lot to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: know the extraordinary video of the system. Minister of Immigration
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: admitting that mass immigration actually hasn't done much good for
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the country at all, meaning you've been led to for years.
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  Speaker 14: Migration's been unresponsive to Australia's needs. It's provided marginal economic
• 40:49
  Speaker 14: benefit and hasn't enhanced labor productivity. It's been concentrated in
• 40:55
  Speaker 14: capital cities, creating some social tension and skill shortages of persistent.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Now that Minister Matt fifthworthwaite to claim in that speech
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to the Avede's the government that was the Parst the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Aberdey's government's now fixing it, except today we learned no,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: it's not immigration. Minister Tony Burke admitted that after two
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and a half years of this government, and after bringing
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you more than a million immigrants, we still weren't bringing
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in the right ones with the skills that we actually need.
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  Speaker 8: We haven't been able to get the number of people
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: who industry want to be able to get at the moment,
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: that's true.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: That same day, even worse news, with all these immigrants
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: still pouring in about up to half a million in
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the past financial year, naturally we have a housing crisis,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: not enough houses. And today we hear oh at the
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: very same time we've had record numbers of immigrants coming in,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: just when we've had a record low number of housing
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: approvals over a year, a record low for the past
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: decadeo more, more immigrants, less houses.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: How does that work?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Just one hundred and fifty nine thousand homes when the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Albanizi government says we need two hundred and forty thousand
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and every year for five years. Where are all these
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: immigrants going to live? Join me here, Daniel Wild, Deputy
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs and Garth
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Thounds and federal Liberal MP. Daniel, does it strike you
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: as insane to import half a million people a year
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: on top of natural population growth when we have just
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty nine thousand homes being built to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: house all these extra people.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, insane is one word for it, Andrew, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, this is an economic and social disaster. We've
• 42:47
  Speaker 15: got a record intake of migrants one point one to
• 42:50
  Speaker 15: five million on a net basis over the last two years.
• 42:54
  Speaker 15: As you mentioned, the housing commencements are at a twelve
• 42:57
  Speaker 15: year low. I wonder whether anybody in the Albanezi cabinet
• 43:01
  Speaker 15: is talking to each other. Doesn't the Migration Minister actually
• 43:04
  Speaker 15: talk to the Housing Minister and say we've got this
• 43:06
  Speaker 15: many migrants coming in, so we need this many houses
• 43:09
  Speaker 15: being built. I don't understand how this can happen. We
• 43:12
  Speaker 15: know that Australians are getting poorer. Andrew, we have big business,
• 43:16
  Speaker 15: the universities, the political a leite who keep telling us
• 43:19
  Speaker 15: migration is good for Australia. Well, if it's so good,
• 43:22
  Speaker 15: then how come Australians are getting poorer. We've had six
• 43:25
  Speaker 15: consecutive quarters of negative per capita economic growth, which is
• 43:29
  Speaker 15: the lowest. It's the worst living standards record since the
• 43:34
  Speaker 15: early nineteen seventies. And then, of course we've got the
• 43:36
  Speaker 15: massive breakdown of social cohesion where unfortunately many migrants simply
• 43:42
  Speaker 15: are not being acculturated with Australian values. Now many do
• 43:46
  Speaker 15: the right thing, absolutely many do the right thing, but
• 43:49
  Speaker 15: we're seeing signs of a deeply, deeply divided society.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Andrew, you said, is the immigration minister talking to the
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: housing minister in fact minus who used to oversee.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: The immigration portfolio. Claire O'Neil was shifted to housings.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: How she doesn't figure out, Wait a minute, I'm actually
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: causing the problems of trying to fix.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: But what is Garth Hamilton, what is going on with
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: our newer immigration is to Tony Burke and our immigration department,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and also with Asia. When we can import a patriarch
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: of one of the most prominent terrorist families in Gaza,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: even if it's not a terrorist himself, but we can
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: do all this, and also when an American academic can
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: waltz in to this country and express what seems happiness
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: at the slaughter of twelve hundred Jews a year ago.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
• 44:42
  Speaker 16: Today is not fully a day of mourning in many respects.
• 44:46
  Speaker 16: Today is also a day that marks considerable celebration, considerable progress,
• 44:52
  Speaker 16: and in some respects, considerable.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Privilege in both these issues, Garth, here is Asia.
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  Speaker 17: Well, if you listen to the words of Tony Burke
• 45:05
  Speaker 17: in question time, when we ask questions exactly about this, Andrew,
• 45:09
  Speaker 17: it's very clear as are to blame. That's Tony Burke's position.
• 45:13
  Speaker 17: There's absolutely nothing he can do about this. This is
• 45:15
  Speaker 17: fully Asia. There's no oversight that a minister can can do.
• 45:19
  Speaker 17: And it's exactly the same argument that they run on
• 45:21
  Speaker 17: the economy, by the way, when they try to make
• 45:23
  Speaker 17: out as if when they say the interest rates are
• 45:27
  Speaker 17: smashing the economy, the RBA is the big bad wolf
• 45:30
  Speaker 17: in this situation. Nothing we could do. We have to
• 45:32
  Speaker 17: keep spending all this money, but it's the RBA's fault.
• 45:35
  Speaker 17: It's the same argument Tony Burke is making on immigration.
• 45:38
  Speaker 17: Refuses to accept there is responsibility for the minister to
• 45:42
  Speaker 17: provide oversight and that on each of these issues he
• 45:46
  Speaker 17: can step in, he can do something if he chooses to.
• 45:49
  Speaker 17: He's choosing not to, Andrew. That's the clear point here.
• 45:51
  Speaker 17: This is a government that doesn't want to do anything
• 45:54
  Speaker 17: and we're paying the price for that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I find it weird the governments are blaming Asia.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: The opposition's not holding Asia to account. Asia can apparently
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: stuff this up and no one dares say boo. But
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: as you say, overall, it is a government created issue. Immigration,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: though Daniel seems a real particular problem with the left,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: including you know, the labor government in Britain, but also
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: in the US. Vice President Kamala Harris, who's now running
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: for presidents. You know, she has for three and a
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: half years been in charge of President Joe Barden's border policies.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: They together let in around ten million illegal immigrants, astonishing number.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And she was asked about that in sixty minutes this
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: week top this. What I was asking was was it
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: in the first place.
• 46:45
  Speaker 13: The policies that we have been proposing are about fixing
• 46:50
  Speaker 13: a problem, not promoting a problem. Okay, but the numbers
• 46:54
  Speaker 13: did quadruple, and the numbers today because of what we
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: have done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: by half. Should we have the flow of sentinel by half?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Why Daniel, is border control so hard for the left?
• 47:14
  Speaker 15: Well, it's hard for the left, Andrew, because they're ideologically
• 47:17
  Speaker 15: opposed to it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 47:18
  Speaker 15: I mean, yes, there's practical challenges, particularly on the southern
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: border in the US. I accept that, But the reality
• 47:23
  Speaker 15: is the numbers came dramatically down in the Trump administration,
• 47:27
  Speaker 15: and they've surged under the Biden Harris administration. And you know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 15: there's an element of the activist left that uses this
• 47:34
  Speaker 15: unplanned mass migration in particularly in the US, the lawful
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: part to deliberately dilute the majority culture. These are the
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: same people Andrew who support things like the racially divisive
• 47:46
  Speaker 15: Voice to Parliament. They believe Australia is a bad country.
• 47:49
  Speaker 15: They believe the West is bad and irredeemably and structurally racist,
• 47:53
  Speaker 15: and they deliberately seek to to undermine majority value is
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: a majority culture. So this isn't so much actal problem.
• 48:01
  Speaker 15: There are solutions to this that are well known and
• 48:03
  Speaker 15: that work. But when you have an ideological commitment against
• 48:07
  Speaker 15: the foundations of your own country, that's how you get
• 48:10
  Speaker 15: these outcomes.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot in that. Garth Hamilton have
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: only got twenty five seconds left. But what do you
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: think is it linked to the left deploring of nationalism
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: in the nation state?
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I do.
• 48:25
  Speaker 17: I think there's a further point. They refuse to acknowledge
• 48:27
  Speaker 17: the difference between legal and illegal immigration, the idea that
• 48:31
  Speaker 17: the rule of law begins at our borders, and to
• 48:34
  Speaker 17: use John Howard's line, we should be determining who comes
• 48:37
  Speaker 17: here and how they come here. These are simple principles
• 48:40
  Speaker 17: at the right whole, dear, that provide national security and
• 48:43
  Speaker 17: a very very important and clearly divide liberals and labor
• 48:47
  Speaker 17: at the moment.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Garth Hamilton, Daniel Wilde, thank you very much to you both.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: That's it for me, coming up now. Sherry Markson from Israel.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Good note.