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156. Amon Göth - The Butcher of Płaszów · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now?
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  Speaker 1: The history podcast That's not your history class with me
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  Speaker 1: your host Katie Charlwood, history harlote and reader of books.
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  Speaker 1: So remember last week when I was saying about the
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  Speaker 1: different ways that people perceive me, like if they've seen
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  Speaker 1: me for the first time doing this Nazi concentration camp series,
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  Speaker 1: or if they've known me for a long time or
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  Speaker 1: watched me for a long time, And the people who
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  Speaker 1: have seen me for the first time are like, you're
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  Speaker 1: so animated and perky and blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: And anyone who's watched me for any length of time,
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  Speaker 1: or anyone who knows me personally is like, girl, are
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  Speaker 1: you okay? Because like we can see that this has
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  Speaker 1: really taken out on you. We see how withdrawn well yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how like muted you are, how lower your tone is,
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  Speaker 1: like how this is affecting you, Like to the point
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  Speaker 1: my own mother phoned me because she was genuinely concerned
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  Speaker 1: for my mental well being, Like she was worried that
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  Speaker 1: this whole Nazi concentration camp series was taking a toll
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  Speaker 1: on my mental health. Now here's the thing, there's no
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  Speaker 1: way to look at this information. There's no way to
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  Speaker 1: go through it and to write it out and research
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  Speaker 1: it and look at, you know, the photographic evidence and
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  Speaker 1: listen to the survivor testimonies. There is no way to
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  Speaker 1: go through all of that and not be affected. There's
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  Speaker 1: no way. You have to be devoid of emotion and empathy.
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  Speaker 1: And because I studied this for six now seven ish years,
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  Speaker 1: I have actively avoided going deep into it because I
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  Speaker 1: know how bad it is. But there were so many
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  Speaker 1: people out there who don't know like most parts of this,
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  Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's a huge, huge topic.
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  Speaker 2: It's very deep, it's very it's multi layered, and there
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  Speaker 2: are spider grams upon spider grams, and there's no way
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  Speaker 2: to cover it all without like.
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  Speaker 1: Years years of discussing it. But I am doing my
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  Speaker 1: best to provide context in a full, comprehensive understanding of
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  Speaker 1: what is happening. And that's what I'm really doing with
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  Speaker 1: those videos on social media. And there were so many
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  Speaker 1: people out there who don't understand what led to the Holocaust,
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  Speaker 1: the build up. They don't understand, you know, how it grew,
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  Speaker 1: They don't understand how the network existed, And the only
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  Speaker 1: thing they know is six million, two wage people were murdered.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only information they have, and that is the
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  Speaker 1: only constant that I've managed to find apart from within
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  Speaker 1: the Holocaust denials, who are their own disgusting little bucket
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  Speaker 1: of fish. Holocaust denials are really simple to shut down
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  Speaker 1: at the best at times, because how can you have
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  Speaker 1: less cognitive skills than a ham sandwich? Because how can
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  Speaker 1: you believe that every single nation in the world, or
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  Speaker 1: at least almost every single nation in the world, agrees
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  Speaker 1: that the whole Holocaust is a factual, historical event. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: can agree on anything, right, How can you think it's
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  Speaker 1: a lie and they all agreed because nobody can agree,
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  Speaker 1: Like what came first the chicken or the egg, is
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  Speaker 1: a jaffagg a cake or a biscuit, No, nobody can
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  Speaker 1: agree on it. And you think everybody did. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: that's ridiculous and like, but yeah, they are their own thing.
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  Speaker 1: But something I've noticed happened, especially in recent days, is
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  Speaker 1: the accusation that talking about non Jewish victims of the Holocaust,
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  Speaker 1: or at least other victims of the Holocaust, is somehow
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  Speaker 1: anti Semitic, Like I was literally called a Holocaust hijacker,
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  Speaker 1: for talking about disabled people being the first group to
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  Speaker 1: be murdered en mass by the nazis an action t
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  Speaker 1: for it, Like what in the able is a motherfucker?
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  Speaker 1: Like if you're watching my entire concentration camp series and
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  Speaker 1: your first thought is, wow, that's anti semitic, I genuinely
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  Speaker 1: believe that you need a medical intervention, like you need
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  Speaker 1: a psychological evaluation because something is not right there. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: not only am I like dealing with this horrific subject matter,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm being attacked from all angles. And then of
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  Speaker 1: course there's always some arsehole who's like complaining about how
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  Speaker 1: I dress or my weight or some other nonsense, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, can you please shut the fuck up? Okay, plays,
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, I just I'm tired, I'm exhausted, and this
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  Speaker 1: is fucking's stressful. But here's the thing. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: this information isn't accessible. It's not easy to find, not necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: and unless you know what you're looking for, you might
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  Speaker 1: not be able to find it. And so there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of barriers to education anyway. And half the
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  Speaker 1: stuff I get is from like archives, scholarly articles, journals,
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  Speaker 1: other languages, you know, propaganda, misinformation and reading through that
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  Speaker 1: as well. That's what I do, you know. And again,
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  Speaker 1: so there's so much barriers to this information into education.
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  Speaker 1: If not me telling you this, if not me finding
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  Speaker 1: a way to share this with you, then who Nearly
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  Speaker 1: every history documentary that is out there is about fucking
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  Speaker 1: tanks and the looftwaffa, you know what I mean. It's
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  Speaker 1: about those things, not about people, not about the camp
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  Speaker 1: systems themselves, not really, not ever. And I know this
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  Speaker 1: is taken at all, but I promised, I promised that
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  Speaker 1: I would continue doing this until the end of August,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna fucking do it and I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to stop. And anyway, I know what you're thinking, you're
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  Speaker 1: Kerry Carey. It's been almost six minutes, quite ol jibbled
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  Speaker 1: jabb but in fact me, in fact you, I will.
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  Speaker 1: But first we've going to get our source on. Sources
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  Speaker 1: are Forgotten Trials of the Holocaust by Michael J. Basler,
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  Speaker 1: The Invented and the Real Historiographical Notes on Trindler's List
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  Speaker 1: by Michael Wilt and Pamela Selvin. Adjusting to Genocide, The
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  Speaker 1: Techniques of Neutralization and the Holocaust by Alexander Alvarez. The
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  Speaker 1: Economic Puzzle of Oscar Schindler, Amenity, Potential and Rational Choice
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  Speaker 1: by Ray Jones. Trial of hobstomfora Ammon Leopold Gout from
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  Speaker 1: Law Reports of Trials of War Criminals the United Nations
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  Speaker 1: War Crime Commissions, Volume seven. Prosecution of Nazi Crimes in
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  Speaker 1: Poland nineteen thirty nine, two thousand and four by Andre Zulavinsky.
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  Speaker 1: Death is a Master from Vienna. The Life and Dates
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  Speaker 1: of Ammon Leopold Guts by Johann Saxelena s S Service
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  Speaker 1: Record of Ammon Gouts by National Archives and Records Administration,
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  Speaker 1: Guaco Bojeov Men Camp, The Encyclopoedia of Camps and Ghettos
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  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three nineteen forty five, The United States Holocaust
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  Speaker 1: Memorial Museum, Schindler's Legacy, True Stories of the List Survivors
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  Speaker 1: by Eleanor Burger, Amon Gout, The Hunter of Concentration Camp
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  Speaker 1: Poajeov by bartoje Velinski, The Grakhov Gueto and the Pojov
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  Speaker 1: Camp Remembered by Malvin Akraf. And of course we have
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  Speaker 1: resources from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, the Holocaust Encyclopedia,
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  Speaker 1: and the Holocaust, historical society are usidin comfortably good, then
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  Speaker 1: let's begin. The man who would go on to earn
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  Speaker 1: the Moniker, the Butcher of Poajov was born Amon Leopold
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  Speaker 1: Gout on the eleventh of December nineteen o eight in Vienna,
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  Speaker 1: which at the time was the capital of the Austrian
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  Speaker 1: Hungarian Empire. He was born to Amon Franz Gout, the
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  Speaker 1: owner of a publishing house, and Berta spend Good now Amon.
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  Speaker 1: He was the only child of the upper middle class
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  Speaker 1: couple and was expected to live quite a comfortable life,
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  Speaker 1: take over the family business and continue printing military books,
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  Speaker 1: religious pamphlets and postcards. He attended a Catholic school and
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  Speaker 1: then went on to an agricultural college of all things,
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  Speaker 1: but this was not to be. He only lasted there
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months. So like by the time he
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  Speaker 1: is a teenager, right by the time he's starting this college,
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  Speaker 1: his country has changed. So the Austria Hungarian Empire, it
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  Speaker 1: was the second largest country in Europe. It had a
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  Speaker 1: dual monarchy, and it was huge, right, and it was
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  Speaker 1: very expansive, to the point that if you have seen
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  Speaker 1: the sound of music and you think to yourself Jaz
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  Speaker 1: How was Captain von Trapp a navy captain in a
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  Speaker 1: landlocked country, And that is a fair question if you
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  Speaker 1: don't know the history of Austria. So initially it was
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  Speaker 1: a massive area and it was disassembled after the First
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  Speaker 1: World War, so there was a coast, right, so it
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  Speaker 1: covered like Slovenia, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Croatia, Austria, Hungary,
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  Speaker 1: Bosnia and Herzegovna, and also parts of Romania, Poland, Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: Serbia and Italy. So there was a law of space
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  Speaker 1: that was covered by you know, this empire. But of
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  Speaker 1: course afterwards involvement in the First World War, things split up,
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  Speaker 1: right and for good. This would have happened during his
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  Speaker 1: sort of childhood adolescence, like the country would have changed
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  Speaker 1: as he grew up in it. And at the age
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  Speaker 1: of seventeen, after he left the agricultural college which was
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  Speaker 1: like near the Czech border, if I'm not mistaken, So
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  Speaker 1: he ends up joining a Nazi youth group and he's
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  Speaker 1: with him for two years before he joins the Hymn
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  Speaker 1: there the Home Guard, right, so this is a nationalist
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  Speaker 1: paramilitary group, and he ends up being a member for
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  Speaker 1: three years and so this particular Home Guard it was,
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  Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, a rapidly anti Semitic branch,
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  Speaker 1: and he was he was a membership all of it,
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  Speaker 1: but he dropped that in order to join the Austrian
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  Speaker 1: brand of the Nazi Party. So after the Wall Street
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  Speaker 1: crash happened, the Nazi Party grew exponentially in Germany. It
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  Speaker 1: went from like five percent of the votes to I
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  Speaker 1: think like forty five. It might not be forty five exactly,
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  Speaker 1: but it just it jumped and it was massive. And
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  Speaker 1: the Austrian branch decided that it was going to try
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  Speaker 1: and get other fascist groups to merge to like sort
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  Speaker 1: of build this momentum, but it didn't happen, and so
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  Speaker 1: then the Nazis say, well, you can either be part
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  Speaker 1: of us or not part of us, Like your loyalty
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  Speaker 1: has to be to us alone. And so that's how
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  Speaker 1: they basically set it up. And so in September nineteen
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  Speaker 1: thirty he was assigned the party membership number five one
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  Speaker 1: zero seven six four. So he applies in nineteen thirty
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  Speaker 1: to like become like an SS, but he doesn't actually
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  Speaker 1: get anything for another two years because it's not until
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  Speaker 1: he's twenty four that he actually manages to join the
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  Speaker 1: show staff and gets his SS number four three seven
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  Speaker 1: six three. So when Good actually joins the Nazis, this
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  Speaker 1: is before Hitler's rise to power, and because of this,
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  Speaker 1: he's known as an alta Kampha or an old fighter,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll get back to all that in a wee second.
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  Speaker 1: But growing up Good, he's basically isolated. Right. He was
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  Speaker 1: raised by his aunt mainly, which was not unusual for
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  Speaker 1: the time. What was unusual was that the reason for
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  Speaker 1: this was because his father was traveling as a publishing
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  Speaker 1: mogul and his mother was running the business in Vienna
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  Speaker 1: in his absence. So he's being raised by his aunt.
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  Speaker 1: He's an only child. He apparently doesn't have any friends.
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  Speaker 1: Whom's to say why that is? Here's the thing. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing he talks about, this being being like a
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  Speaker 1: big factor in his life that he tells us to
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  Speaker 1: his mistress, right, and he here's the thing. Being an
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  Speaker 1: only child might be lonely, but if your response to
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  Speaker 1: loneliness is to become a Nazi, well you've got some
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  Speaker 1: huge fucking issues, okay, Like, and he would like tell
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  Speaker 1: his mistress as well that he joined the Nazi Party
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  Speaker 1: to oppose his parents' bourgeois life, like all right, I
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  Speaker 1: either rebel without a clue, make her just a teenager
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  Speaker 1: with an attitude problem and a desperate need for attention
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  Speaker 1: and belonging, like he wants power. Like his parents tried
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  Speaker 1: to get him to go to like proper schooling and
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  Speaker 1: to get proper educated, and he's like, no, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to go to an agricultural college. And it's like, how's
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  Speaker 1: that going to help you become a publish and mogul.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, no, no bis for me. So he's working
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  Speaker 1: his way up the Nazi ladder. He starts as a
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  Speaker 1: member of the Essay as the brown Shirts, and then
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  Speaker 1: he moves into the SS. So he was promoted in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three to zug Fuel of the fifty second
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  Speaker 1: SS standard. Then he was promoted again to says Chaft.
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  Speaker 1: So other Nazis they thought he was swell, but the
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  Speaker 1: authorities were not happy with him doing Nazi shit like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, purchasing bombs for Nazi activities. See Austria had
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  Speaker 1: declared the Nazi Party illegal on the nineteenth of June
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  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three, and so the party just says like
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  Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers and sets up
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  Speaker 1: shop in Munich. It's like tu Bavaria, right and good
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  Speaker 1: he would smuggle weapons and radios and like act as
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  Speaker 1: a mule, sorry, act as a carrier for THEESS and
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  Speaker 1: so he gets arrested in October, but he's released two
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  Speaker 1: months later for lack of evidence. See the Austrian government
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  Speaker 1: under Chancellor Eenkobert. Dolphus was incredibly anti Nazi, and after
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  Speaker 1: they attempted Nazi uprising in February nineteen thirty four, Dolphus
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  Speaker 1: established a new constitution that basically gave him ultimate Pillar,
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  Speaker 1: although he didn't actually live long enough to do anything
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  Speaker 1: with that power, because he was assassinated in a failed
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  Speaker 1: Nazi coup on the twenty fifth of July that year,
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  Speaker 1: so like a couple months later, and most historians agree
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  Speaker 1: that Good played a part in at least planning the assassination.
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  Speaker 1: He was again detained, but managed to evade execution somehow
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  Speaker 1: and flee to Germany, where, well, I'm glad you asked,
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  Speaker 1: because I'll tell you to the SS training facility in Dachau. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: next to the Darkau concentration camp, where he tried to
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  Speaker 1: advance but ended up leaving because he butted heads with
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  Speaker 1: his Obivia, Alfred Beigler. So there he is effectively banished
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  Speaker 1: from his home country because you know, he joined an
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  Speaker 1: evil fascist group and tried to do evil fascist things
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  Speaker 1: and then did not get on with his evil fascist
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  Speaker 1: boss because they had different evil fascist ideas. So what
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  Speaker 1: does it do, well, what any man standing on his
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  Speaker 1: own two feet would do. He goes to work for
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  Speaker 1: his parents publishing business in Munich and he gets married
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  Speaker 1: due to pressure from his parents because they're like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? Get married, get a job, and so
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  Speaker 1: he marries Olga Janoshik, and shocker, they get divorced after
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  Speaker 1: only a few months of marriage. Color me surprised. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: the Austrian government Undercurt Soshnik maintains the anti Nazi stance
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  Speaker 1: and Austrian Nazi members they would just decline like those
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  Speaker 1: numbers were dropping. But there was a warm brewing on
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  Speaker 1: the horizon. So it all changed after the Anschlus when
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  Speaker 1: Germany goose stepped in and took over Austria. Now you'll
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  Speaker 1: hear words pallied about like anext or occupied, like such
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  Speaker 1: innocuous terms for invade and takeover. But before the Anschlus,
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  Speaker 1: like before all that happened, like in there is just
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  Speaker 1: the year before Gout had rejoined the Nazis, because he'd
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  Speaker 1: left in what was at thirty four and he rejoined
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  Speaker 1: in thirty seven. So he returns to being an SS
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  Speaker 1: member and had even written to the Austrian Refugee Society
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  Speaker 1: and requested that his Nazi Party membership be transferred from
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  Speaker 1: Austria to Munich. But it was after the Anschlus that
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  Speaker 1: Gout could actually return back to Austria without fear of
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  Speaker 1: being arrested, you know, for doing Nazi shit. And so
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  Speaker 1: here he was at twenty eight years old and wanting
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  Speaker 1: to advance in his career and just be a good Nazi.
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  Speaker 1: And what is the core belief Like, what is the
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  Speaker 1: core of the Nazi belief system? If you guessed eugenics,
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  Speaker 1: you guessed right. See. Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS,
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  Speaker 1: issued a directive that all SS men between the ages
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  Speaker 1: of twenty five and thirty were to get married and
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  Speaker 1: start having children, well, their wives were to start having children.
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  Speaker 1: This was to ensure that they would produce a generation
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  Speaker 1: of ideal German citizens. Mass reproduction and replacements to create
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  Speaker 1: the so called Aryan race, because like the Nazis, I
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  Speaker 1: mean they co opted the term Aryan and we're like
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  Speaker 1: blonde haired, blue eyed, physically fit. Ooh, definitely are the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate humans. Like we're talking eugenics, we're talking phrenology, for
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  Speaker 1: God's sakes, Like what phrenology? Life's bad when phrenology comes
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  Speaker 1: into the conversation. So he meets a twenty three year
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  Speaker 1: old Anna Geiger at a motorcycle race, and after making
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  Speaker 1: her spin and a cup, he's like, yeah, you'll do,
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  Speaker 1: and decides to marry her. Like alless men and their
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  Speaker 1: perspective brides, the couple had to pass a set of
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  Speaker 1: stringent physical tests and interviews admitted by the ESSs to
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  Speaker 1: determine the suitability of the marriage. So like they had
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  Speaker 1: to answer all these questions about being a good German
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  Speaker 1: and being a good Nazi, and they also had to
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  Speaker 1: do all these like physical tests to ensure that they
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  Speaker 1: were in peak physical fitness. They wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that they were strong and healthy so that they could
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  Speaker 1: procreate more little Nazis. So they were wed in an
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  Speaker 1: SS civil ceremony on the twenty thirty of October nineteen
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight, and They would go on to have three
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  Speaker 1: children in quick succession. Peter was born in nineteen thirty
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  Speaker 1: nine but died of diphtheria at seven months old. Verna
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  Speaker 1: was born in nineteen forty and their daughter Engblg followed
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one. So they had a permanent residence
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  Speaker 1: in Vienna and Anna stayed there with the kids while
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  Speaker 1: Gold would spend most of the war in Poland. So
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  Speaker 1: back in Austria, like, he's quickly rising through the ranks
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  Speaker 1: of the SS. He's promoted to antel STUMFNA in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: forty one, and he had been drafted right into the Wehrmacht.
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  Speaker 1: But well, that's the weird thing, right, he's drafted into
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  Speaker 1: the vermach like the actual like army. But his SS
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  Speaker 1: service record shows that he did not actively serve in
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  Speaker 1: the vermach Like, there is no record of him serving
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  Speaker 1: because of everything else he's doing, Like he's not doing
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  Speaker 1: boots on the ground military stuff. No, Instead, he's an
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  Speaker 1: ansad fiora and a financial officer in the Katovic office
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  Speaker 1: for the Reich Commissioner for the Consolidation of German Nationhood.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's the English version. There was a German version,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm already struggling with my throat and so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not putting myself through that particular one. Screw it, let's
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  Speaker 1: give it a go. The rex Co meself Field, sophistical
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  Speaker 1: Lusian Folkstone, Yeah, there we go, There we go. It
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  Speaker 1: was responsible for the return and resettlement of the German diaspora, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's what that is. It's basically trying to get German
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  Speaker 1: people who live abroad back home, which is like, on
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  Speaker 1: the face of it, it's like, oh, that sounds nice.
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  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, in order to do that, what they had
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  Speaker 1: to do was displace the people who were already living
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: there and anyone that they felt was alien or foreign
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to the land that they believed was theirs. This included
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: moving people that they didn't feel belonged in those areas,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know, into camps, ghettos, or just straight up murdering them. Now,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we can all agree that those actions are
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: horrific and a terrible thing to do. Anyway, In nineteen
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: forty two, he joined Operation Ranad, which was a scheme
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to murder Jewish people in German occupied Poland. In the summer,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: he was transferred to Lublin, where he worked on or
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: do you know Klobotchnik himself the s is Briga de Fiola,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: an Austrian Nazi charged with a senior role in the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: construction and expanding of three death camps. Beljit's slowby ball
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: treblinga Now, due to the highly secretive nature of this position,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: like there isn't a paper trail, like there are scratches
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and scratches, but there's no full paper trail to this,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: so we don't know exactly Goods actions or roles during
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the sixth month, like he was there involved in this operation.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: The only thing we can be sure of is that
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he was responsible for rounding up victims and transporting them
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to the camps to be murdered. And so he is
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: really taking on board like Klobotchnik's like way of doing things.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So Klobotnik had a way of combining untold cruelty with
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: basic greed and corruption. He saw Klobotnik lining his pockets
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and he was inspired. By nineteen forty three, Good had
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: clearly impressed his sociopathic superiors and he was promoted to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Halbstomfuler and he was assigned to the essa's Tottenkovfbunda unit.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: The death head, and on the eleventh of February that year,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Good became the commandant of the Poaijov concentration camp. Before
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: he even stepped foot in Krakhov, his reputation preceded him
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: as the bloody dog of Lublin. Good news travels fast,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: bad news travels faster. His first task as commandant was
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to oversee the camp's construction on a two hundred acre site,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and because they wanted to amplify the suffering and really
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: rub salt in the wind, this site was to be
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: built over two Jewish cemeteries, and like most camps, it
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: was built using slave labor, effectively using victims to build
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: their own prisons in order to create this camp and
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: to streamline everything, because remember the Nazis weren't just evil,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: they were also evil bureaucrats, and so they had a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: very well organized system. So the Krakhov Ghitto was liquidated
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: with those two week to work transported to extermination camps
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: or simply murdered in the streets, and within weeks because
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of the grueling labor that was forced that it was
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a fully operational labor camp. Just in case you were
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: unsure if amongut was a megal mania. When the first
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: prisoners arrived at the camp, he told them I am
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: your God. And in the camp he had complete authority
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: over everything, especially at this point at the beginning, he
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: had no one to answer to. There was no one
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to clip his wings or nip it in the bud.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: He had free reign to do as he pleased, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he did. As well as being the commandant of Plajeov,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: he had other responsibilities, like he was tasked with liquidating
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: nearby ghettos Krakovranov, so on and so forth. Now, this
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't just rounding people up and putting them on trains.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: This was violent like, this was aggressive and terrifying. And
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: anyone not killed immediately, like they were shipped off to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a camp.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Again, those fit for work, they were sent to labor camps,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: like a lot of them just ended up in Plaijeov.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And those who couldn't, those who were deemed unfit to work,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: too weak to ill, they were sent to extermination camps.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And sometimes when they were rounded up in the square,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: they would just be shot. And Amon Good personally murdered
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Jewish victims in these roundups himself. So here's the thing,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the tonne of ghetto. It held almost half the city's population,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: like entire population, and that was almost twenty five thousand
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Jewish people. Ten thousand were sent to Plajov for slave labor,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: with eight thousand being sent on to Auswitz and the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: rest they were simply shot where they stood, with good
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: executing up to ninety women and children himself. And then
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: as he was liquidating the ghettos, he looted the homes,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: taking jewelry, clothes, furniture, and anything not nailed down, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: then he sold them on the black market. He did
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: keep some of his favorite thefts for himself, but he
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: made himself rich selling the rest. What a corrupt Nazi.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I know you're shocked. So here's an interesting fact to remember.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: As a member of the SS, acting on behalf of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the SS, that loot was considered property of the rich.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: As Commandant de Plajeov, he was drunk with power. He
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: carried out executions on an almost daily basis. And the threat,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: not just that, but the unknown threat, the fact that
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it could happen at any time. That adds to the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: terror of the situation because you're never knowing when he
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: was going to strike. Sometimes he'd order subordinates to perform
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the executions, and other times he'd just do it himself,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Like he had killed prisoners for serving him soup that
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: was too hot because he couldn't just blow on it
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: or wait a minute. Another was killed because he dared
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to look him in the eye, and another was walking
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: too slowly. One time he shot a man for being
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: too tall, and as he lay dying on the ground,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he urinated on him. Now poajov It didn't have gas
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: chambers or crematoria, so most of these victims they were
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: just shot dead and goods. He was known to stand
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: on the balcony of his villa at the camp and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: shoot prisoners with his rifle, Like he had this villa
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: with a balcony, and he would ride his horse like
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: in and out of the camp. I like, he didn't
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: just use his rifle. He didn't just use a pistol.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: He didn't just shoot like. That wasn't his modus operandi
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. He also had two
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: large dogs, Rolfe a Great Dane and Ralph an alsation mix.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Now is he an Alsatian mix or is he a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: German shepherd mix? Listen it's the same dog. A German
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: shepherd is an Alsatian. It's I think I discussed this
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: before in a previous episode, but yeah, everywhere I see
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: it it says Alsatian, and I'm like, I feel like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: if there was ever an appropriate time to call it
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a German shepherd, this would be the appropriate time. Now
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain that the dog he was like Alsatian
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: mixed with great Dene because he looks kind of Danish.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But anyway, these massive dogs, they had been trained to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: torture prisoners on command, Like he would set them on
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: people and watch them tear them apart. Like he would
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: watch these dogs just like tear into these prisoners. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: just to add another layer of horrible onto this, like
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he got jealous of the Jewish dog handler because he
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: thought the dogs liked him better, so he had the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: dog handler killed. So it was about this time that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: he meets Oscar Schindler, who, if you don't know who
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: he is, he's a German industrialist who owned an enamable
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: factory nearby, and so he had discovered that Good had
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: an achilles heel. I say hel heels more than one really,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: because he loved flattery he loved like presents, especially fancy presents,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and also was rather fond of bribery. And so Oscar Shindler.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: He had been a member of the Nazi Party, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: initially he had hired Jewish workers because he could underpay
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: them and make more money for himself. And then over
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: time he came to the realization that Jewish people were
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: people to so Schindler, he bribes Gota and in return,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Schindler's workers were kept in separate barracks, and they didn't
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: receive like the same level of cruelty, Like there was
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like some protection for them, Like they were prisoners being
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: used for slave labor, but they had it slightly less
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: bad than the other prisoners being used for slave labor.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: So like, as the Red Army is approaching towards Poland,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Schindler convinced Good to allow him to move his factory
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and his twelve hundred workers to Berlin yits in Czechoslovakia.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that Good agrees to this
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: is because he thought he could use it to cover
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: his black market tracks. So he thought he could like
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: takes a of the stolen like Jewish goods from you
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: know where. He looted from all their homes and from
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you know, them coming into the camp. Because if you
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: come from the camp and you're coming from a ghetto,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a like just a living situation that is not another camp,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and you have anything of value on you like that
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: man's going to take it, like he's going to steal it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: And so in early May nineteen forty four, Goods was
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: told that ten thousand Hungarian Jewish people would be imprisoned
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: in Plajeov. Now, the camp numbers had risen steadily, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: they weren't really executing them as as quickly because they
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: weren't doing it en mass right. It wasn't happening. And
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: so there was just a lot of people like men,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: women and children in this camp. And in order to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: create space and this evergrowing population, he ordered that all
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: children in the camp would be moved to the kinda garden,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and on the fourteenth of May, most of those children,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like nearly all of them, were deported to Auschwitz for extermination. See.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: In early nineteen forty four, the Poajov camp status changed
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: from a labor camp to a concentration camp under the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: ESSs Economics and Administration's Office. This made it one of
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: thirteen official concentration camps in Poland, and because the Essys
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: were now in charge of the camp, the camp was
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: under closer scrutiny, which meant the corruption was not really
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: going to go unnoticed for much longer, and it didn't.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: On the thirteenth of December nineteen forty four, Goot was
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: removed from his position of camp commandant at Blajeov and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was charged by the ESSs with theft of Jewish property
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: because remember, according to Nazi regulations, this belonged to the state.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: He was also charged with violation of concentration camp regulations
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: regarding the treatment and punishment of prisoners and allowing unauthorized
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: access to camp personnel records. Basically, he was charged with
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: corruption and brutality. Like. Another thing he did like that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think I mentioned, actually was he sold rations
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like he sold for rations and was therefore underfeeding the prisoners.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Now from the perspective of like the administration, like their
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: idea was like, if you're not giving them the allocated rations,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: they not going to be strong enough to work enough
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: to do what we need them to do. Oh and
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: another thing I may have failed to have mentioned is
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that his wife Anna. She divorced him because of his
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: plethora of affairs, including one with Ruth Irene Calda, one
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of Oscar Schrindler's secretaries. Right, she was a secretary in
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: his factory. And yeah, they met at dinner and next
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: thing you know, they're blinking, which I mean, this man
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: shoots people for walking slowly, and you're gonna you're gonna blink.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: This man, Really, Ruth, make better choices. Anyway, he was
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: held in Breslau for about a month, but because of
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the fast approaching end World War Two and the Nazi's
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: inevitable defeat looming in the air, the charges were dropped
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: because they were like, we don't have time for this
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: right now. And so he's skirting around Central Europe like
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: he's running about his primary concern is getting his hands
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: on his ill gotten wealth from his corruption at plaguere Ofv.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So he had goods shipped from like eastern Poland, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: he tried to retrieve some of this at Oscar Schindler's
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: new factory. Like he's trying to get like his stolen
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Jewish loot from the ghettos that he has sent to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Oscar Schindler's factory with the intent of collecting it from
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Oscar Schindler. Now in a crazy random happenstance, like he
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: goes and he tries to get it, and then he's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: suddenly in excruciating pain, like he's got this acute stomach pain.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: It's happened all of a sudden and it's just from nowhere.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So he gets sent to an SS hospital like he's
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: like just in a lot of pain, like an abnormal
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: amount of pain. And when he gets there, the doctors
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: diagnose him as mentally ill, and so he is committed
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: to a mental institution in bad Tolls in Bavaria and
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the Bad Toes. He was arrested by the US military
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: in May in nineteen forty five. So you know, the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Allies are coming in. You've got the Red Army on
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: one side, You've got like US forces coming in from
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the top, like everyone's coming in from all angles. And
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: so May nineteen forty five, like the US military show
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: up and they're like and when they arrest him, he's
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: wearing a wehmarket uniform, which he clearly went and found,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Like they're not putting patients in military attire, Like that's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: not a thing. Like he's wearing this uniform and he
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't admit to being SS, like completely blanks it. But
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: they arrest him anyway, and he is sent to a
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: temporary prison camp in Dachau and they lose him, like
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: they lose him amongst the prisoner population, and he's just gone,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and it takes a former inmate of Plajov to identify
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: him so that he can be taken to trial. So
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: so there's this like prisoner of Puajov who goes to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: become a Nazi hunter, and he was like going through
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the camp anyway, and he recognizes this guy, and then
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: he gets other prisoners to confirm that he is in fact,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I'm on good like they do it, and so he's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: identified and he is extradited to Poland, where the new
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: government has been set up, and he is tried by
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the Supreme National Tribunal in Krakhov between the twenty seventh
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of August and the fifth of September nineteen forty six,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and it is here that he is convicted of membership
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to the Nazi Party, which had been made illegal. Actually
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: at this time they had decided it's illegal to be
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a member of the Nazi Party, and so he's convictor
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: of that he is convicted of ordering the torture and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: imprisonment of people and of all things, which is interesting,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Like this is the most interesting part, like regarding to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: like the actual just conviction of trials, like not his
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: entire story because he's a bastard, But he is convicted
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of homicide. Right, this is the first such conviction at
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: a war crimes trial. Like he is the first person
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and a war crimes trial to be convicted of homicide.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Like there's other variations and other sort of like torture abuse,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: but this homicide first time. Like typically when there's a war,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like when wars happen, like death is just part of
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the course, you know, But this is execution. This is
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: mass murder. It's not the same as you know, one
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: soldier shooting another soldier on the battlefield. Like it's a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: very different, different thing. And like the only words he
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: says in his defense and I shit, you not proper
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Nuremberg trial, right he says that he was only following orders.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Sure jan Sure His last words would actually end up
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: being Heil Hitler On the thirteenth of September nineteen forty six,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: at a prison, which is like a stones throw away
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: from the site of the plage of Camp. He's taken
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: to the gallows and he takes a short drop in
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a sudden stop. He is hanged from the neck until dead,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and after he dies, his body was cremated and his
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: ashes dumped in a river, which honestly I think was
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a little too good for him. But here we are.
• 44:04
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• 44:08
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