Latest / Repcolite Home Improvement Show / Home in Progress: The Christmas Extravaganza 2025
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, thanks for tuning in. You're listening to Home
- 0:12Speaker 1: in Progress, sponsored by repcoll Like Paints and Benjamin Moore,
- 0:15Speaker 1: And as you can certainly tell from the opening music,
- 0:18Speaker 1: this is our much anticipated annual Christmas extravaganza. And I'm
- 0:24Speaker 1: sorry if you don't like these I do, and that's
- 0:29Speaker 1: what matters to me this giving time of the year.
- 0:31Speaker 1: I'm gonna give myself a little gift, you know, I mean, really,
- 0:34Speaker 1: it's almost Christmas. I don't feel like home improvement stuff
- 0:39Speaker 1: or talking about color theory or paint projects at this
- 0:41Speaker 1: point in the air, and I don't know that you
- 0:43Speaker 1: want to listen to it. So every single year we
- 0:46Speaker 1: kick back, we take one episode where we have a
- 0:48Speaker 1: little bit of fun, we work our way through a
- 0:50Speaker 1: bunch of unusual Christmas related topics. And this year, I'm
- 0:54Speaker 1: actually gonna be giving away some presents. I'm gonna be
- 0:57Speaker 1: giving away ten one dollar certificates after the show concludes,
- 1:02Speaker 1: ten of them. So to get entered, all you need
- 1:05Speaker 1: to do, I'm gonna tell you right now. Normally I
- 1:06Speaker 1: save this for the end. I'm telling you right now,
- 1:09Speaker 1: and I'll remind you throughout the show to get entered.
- 1:11Speaker 1: All you need to do is email me at radio
- 1:13Speaker 1: at repcol Light dot com and tell me your favorite
- 1:16Speaker 1: Christmas song, your favorite Christmas memory, whatever it is. You know,
- 1:20Speaker 1: maybe your favorite gift, you know, the favorite gift you've
- 1:22Speaker 1: ever given, your favorite gift you've ever received, what the
- 1:25Speaker 1: season means to you, whatever, have fun with it, send
- 1:28Speaker 1: me anything. Just email it to radio at repcoll Light
- 1:32Speaker 1: dot com. And then at the end of the show,
- 1:34Speaker 1: after it concludes, I'll draw ten random winners and I'll
- 1:38Speaker 1: email you right away and let you know if you want.
- 1:40Speaker 1: All right, I'll remind you as we go multiple times
- 1:43Speaker 1: so you're aware of all all of your opportunities to
- 1:46Speaker 1: get entered. Okay, with that out of the way, that's
- 1:48Speaker 1: business out of the way. Let's kick things off with
- 1:51Speaker 1: Christmas cards. You know, a lot of us send Christmas cards.
- 1:54Speaker 1: A lot of us make a big deal out of
- 1:57Speaker 1: creating the perfect, absolutely perfect Christmas card every single year.
- 2:02Speaker 1: You know. The other day, I was flipping through, you know,
- 2:05Speaker 1: a big box of old photos and I stumbled into
- 2:09Speaker 1: one of my favorite Christmas cards that we've ever sent out. Now,
- 2:13Speaker 1: at the time we had three kids. I got five
- 2:16Speaker 1: in total, but at that point we had three, Caleb
- 2:18Speaker 1: and Maddie. They were the oldest. They were about five,
- 2:21Speaker 1: and their brother Andrew was right around two, you know,
- 2:24Speaker 1: the terrible terrible twos. Anyway, we had big ideas for
- 2:28Speaker 1: the picture, and we dressed them all up in spectacular
- 2:31Speaker 1: you know, little outfits, brushed their hair, cleaned the crunchy
- 2:35Speaker 1: you know, food off their faces, and we started taking
- 2:39Speaker 1: solo photos of each kid. Maddie she was beautiful. Caleb
- 2:44Speaker 1: he was dapper, you know, a dapper little gentleman. He
- 2:46Speaker 1: looked great. They did wonderfully, and then we get to Andrew,
- 2:50Speaker 1: and no matter what in the world we did, we
- 2:52Speaker 1: couldn't get the kid to stop screaming. You know, he's
- 2:55Speaker 1: just red faced rage screaming. He's leaning forward, his eyebrows
- 2:59Speaker 1: are angled angrily, he's full throated screaming. You know. We
- 3:03Speaker 1: couldn't get a happy picture to save our lives. And
- 3:06Speaker 1: we were getting frustrated. Right Anyway, the idea with this
- 3:10Speaker 1: particular card was going to be separate photos of each
- 3:13Speaker 1: kid mounted on this nice Christmas background, right, everybody smiling,
- 3:17Speaker 1: everybody happy, and then we'd put a nice little happy
- 3:19Speaker 1: message with it. Well, when we couldn't get Devil boy
- 3:23Speaker 1: to stop screaming and hollering. Inspiration struck me, you know.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I snapped a picture of the angry screaming kid, and
- 3:30Speaker 1: then I slapped that one on a card with the
- 3:32Speaker 1: other two happy kids. We put a message on it
- 3:35Speaker 1: that said, made the joy that we experience every day
- 3:38Speaker 1: in our home be with you this Christmas season. And
- 3:40Speaker 1: then we mass produced that card and send them out
- 3:43Speaker 1: to all our friends and family. All the fancy perfect
- 3:46Speaker 1: Christmas cards that we've ever made, I can't even remember them,
- 3:49Speaker 1: but this one, this one was absolutely sheer gold because
- 3:53Speaker 1: of the screaming kid. Anyway, Christmas cards, so that's really
- 3:57Speaker 1: the whole point of that. Christmas cards. Nowadays, there's something
- 4:00Speaker 1: that everybody sends out and have been doing. We've been
- 4:03Speaker 1: doing that as people, as a collective group of people
- 4:06Speaker 1: for ages. And if you don't send them out, you know,
- 4:09Speaker 1: people do notice, right, you know. I don't mean to
- 4:12Speaker 1: pile on more pressure, you know, during a season where
- 4:16Speaker 1: there's already too much pressure, but people do log these things.
- 4:20Speaker 1: You know. We used to have a spreadsheet that I
- 4:22Speaker 1: kept up to find out who was sending us cards
- 4:25Speaker 1: and who wasn't. Now I'm not saying that that didn't
- 4:28Speaker 1: solely determine how we treated those people, you know, as
- 4:31Speaker 1: the year unfolded. But I'm not really saying that it
- 4:33Speaker 1: didn't figure in to how we treated them anyway. Christmas
- 4:37Speaker 1: cards they're kind of a big deal, but did you
- 4:40Speaker 1: know that they weren't always viewed that way. In fact,
- 4:43Speaker 1: when they were first introduced, people were like furious about them.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Here's the scoop the first because people, you know, before
- 4:50Speaker 1: I say why, they were mad, I just think it's
- 4:52Speaker 1: funny that people get mad about everything. You know, we
- 4:55Speaker 1: sometimes think I don't know about you, I can't say you.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I sometimes think that, you know, the world has just
- 5:02Speaker 1: gotten angrier, right, you know, people are more upset than
- 5:05Speaker 1: they used to be. Used to be calm and cool
- 5:08Speaker 1: and collected way back, you know, way back when. But
- 5:10Speaker 1: nowadays everybody's amped up. Everybody's looking for a fight. Oh,
- 5:14Speaker 1: they were mad about Christmas cards. Not mad because they
- 5:17Speaker 1: didn't get them. They were mad because they did. Right,
- 5:21Speaker 1: That's how mad people were back then. I could have
- 5:24Speaker 1: sent andrews angry screaming Christmas card back then and they
- 5:27Speaker 1: would have thought, yeah, this is how we feel getting
- 5:29Speaker 1: this stupid Christmas card. Anyway, here's why they were mad.
- 5:33Speaker 1: The first commercially produced Christmas card, it appears in eighteen
- 5:37Speaker 1: forty three in England. It was designed by artist John
- 5:40Speaker 1: kelcut horsely and commissioned by a guy. I got hung up.
- 5:45Speaker 1: I'm sorry I paused when I said, hoarsely. My brain
- 5:49Speaker 1: played pictures of mister Ed, you know, the talking horse,
- 5:52Speaker 1: and I was gonna make a joke about that, but
- 5:53Speaker 1: I figured that's not professional. But I couldn't get my
- 5:56Speaker 1: train of thought back, so I paused, and I now
- 5:59Speaker 1: I've just really wrecked everything. I'm gonna start over. It
- 6:02Speaker 1: was designed the very first Christmas card was designed by
- 6:05Speaker 1: artist John Kelcutt hoarsely, not anything connected with mister Ed.
- 6:10Speaker 1: And it was commissioned by a guy named Sir Henry Cole.
- 6:13Speaker 1: And here's an important detail about Sir Henry Cole. That
- 6:17Speaker 1: guy was busy, all right. He was busy. He was
- 6:20Speaker 1: well connected, socially active, you know, he was completely overwhelmed
- 6:24Speaker 1: by holiday correspondence. Because in Victorian England, if somebody sent
- 6:28Speaker 1: you a Christmas letter, you were expected, you were socially
- 6:32Speaker 1: obligated to write back, you know, by hand with ink
- 6:36Speaker 1: from an inkwell, and in fancy you know, looping penmanship.
- 6:40Speaker 1: And on top of all of that, you had to
- 6:41Speaker 1: be sincere, you had to be witty, you had to
- 6:43Speaker 1: be heartfelt, you had to be loving. And thankfully, Sir
- 6:47Speaker 1: Henry Cole basically said, nope, I don't have time for
- 6:50Speaker 1: this kind of thing, and you know what, I don't
- 6:52Speaker 1: think other people do either. So with that in mind,
- 6:54Speaker 1: with those thoughts swirling in his little brain, he goes
- 6:57Speaker 1: out and commissions a printed card with a simple mass
- 7:00Speaker 1: message wishing people to marry Christmas. And then he had
- 7:02Speaker 1: a thousand cards printed up. He sent some of them
- 7:05Speaker 1: off himself, and then the rest he sold to the public.
- 7:09Speaker 1: And once people saw the especially people who were just
- 7:12Speaker 1: as busy or just as socially entangled as he was,
- 7:16Speaker 1: when they saw the idea really started to spread fast.
- 7:20Speaker 1: You know. Suddenly this wasn't just one guy dodging his mail,
- 7:24Speaker 1: you know, and his response his social responsibilities. It was
- 7:28Speaker 1: a new way of handling Christmas altogether. However, while some
- 7:32Speaker 1: people liked it, I told you already, some people were mad.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Others hated it. Almost immediately, Christmas cards were criticized as impersonal.
- 7:41Speaker 1: You know, that's what they're mad about. These are impersonal.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Victorian commentators complained that sending a printed card was a shortcut,
- 7:49Speaker 1: a way of avoiding real effort. Yeah, that's the whole point, right.
- 7:55Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine that you're mad about that,
- 7:57Speaker 1: But I guess these people were extremely ten souls and
- 8:01Speaker 1: they wanted long, heartfelt messages. You know, if I knew
- 8:05Speaker 1: that they were feeling that way about Christmas cards I
- 8:07Speaker 1: was sending, I would send them some real heartfelt messages.
- 8:10Speaker 1: But I don't know that they want to read them,
- 8:12Speaker 1: and it certainly wouldn't be in the Christmas spirit anyway.
- 8:15Speaker 1: They're frustrated about that because they're seeing it as a
- 8:18Speaker 1: way of people, you know, avoiding any real effort. The
- 8:21Speaker 1: general idea was if you really cared, you'd write, you know,
- 8:25Speaker 1: you wouldn't just send a card, you'd write. But Christmas
- 8:28Speaker 1: cards spread anyway, and they spread fast, and they did
- 8:31Speaker 1: that because they solved a real problem. People had more
- 8:34Speaker 1: social connections than ever before. I wonder what that's like.
- 8:38Speaker 1: My social connections are pretty limited, and even at that point,
- 8:41Speaker 1: there's too many of them. But back then, people were,
- 8:45Speaker 1: you know, moving in a shaken they were rubbing elbows
- 8:48Speaker 1: with people, and they just couldn't keep up with everything.
- 8:50Speaker 1: They had fewer hours to maintain all these new relationships.
- 8:54Speaker 1: They had things to do, people to see, and writing
- 8:57Speaker 1: pages and pages and pages of heartfelt you know, heartfelt
- 9:02Speaker 1: letters to everybody on their list that was that was
- 9:04Speaker 1: just out of the question. Couldn't do it. So Christmas
- 9:07Speaker 1: cards let people stay connected across distance and time. They
- 9:10Speaker 1: made it possible to acknowledge relationships that would otherwise fade.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And slowly because of that, the criticism softened, and what
- 9:18Speaker 1: had once been dismissed as a lazy thing started to
- 9:21Speaker 1: look practical. Right. People started to realize this is a
- 9:25Speaker 1: good way to go. It started to look thoughtful because
- 9:28Speaker 1: not sending anything that was way worse than just sending
- 9:31Speaker 1: a card. And then, over time the whole Christmas card
- 9:34Speaker 1: thing flipped entirely on its head. It went from being
- 9:37Speaker 1: a social shortcut to being a social obligation from something suspicious,
- 9:42Speaker 1: you know, they must not care enough, something that was,
- 9:44Speaker 1: you know, kind of making me mad, to something I'm expecting.
- 9:48Speaker 1: I'm going to the mailbox every day, where's my card
- 9:50Speaker 1: from so and so? I haven't seen it yet. I'm
- 9:53Speaker 1: gonna put them on my spreadsheet they're gonna be sorry
- 9:56Speaker 1: if they don't get me a card. Right, That's how
- 9:59Speaker 1: it changed. And today, if somebody sends you a Christmas card,
- 10:03Speaker 1: you're certainly not thinking, Wow, that's impersonal. You know what
- 10:06Speaker 1: a jerk this person is? You think that was nice
- 10:09Speaker 1: of them? Or if you're like me, you think, oh no,
- 10:13Speaker 1: I didn't send them anything. Now what maybe maybe I'll
- 10:16Speaker 1: text them? You know? Does that count? Can I text?
- 10:19Speaker 1: And that's where we're at right now, and the same
- 10:21Speaker 1: debate is raging. Our texts less personal than phone calls. Yeah,
- 10:26Speaker 1: but they're quicker, right, that's a plus. Our emails worse
- 10:29Speaker 1: than letters. We ask all these questions. Every single new
- 10:32Speaker 1: form of communication starts out as kind of suspicious or
- 10:36Speaker 1: kind of suspicious is the wrong word impersonal? That's probably
- 10:40Speaker 1: a better way to think about it. We worry that
- 10:42Speaker 1: it's hollow, that it's lazy, that it's replacing something that
- 10:45Speaker 1: was more meaningful, And then, slowly, thank goodness, these things
- 10:48Speaker 1: become normal. You know, Christmas cards didn't ruin Christmas. They
- 10:52Speaker 1: didn't destroy sincerity. They just adapted it to a world
- 10:56Speaker 1: that was getting bigger and busier. They weren't perfect, but
- 10:59Speaker 1: they were human. And in the end, that's why they stuck,
- 11:02Speaker 1: you know, in one form or another. And that's why
- 11:04Speaker 1: someday we'll all be sending Christmas texts and that will
- 11:08Speaker 1: be good enough. And eventually those texts will be reduced
- 11:11Speaker 1: from actual words to just an emoji, and we won't feel,
- 11:16Speaker 1: you know, that we got the short end of the stick.
- 11:18Speaker 1: When we get a smiling emoji for Christmas, we'll feel like, Wow,
- 11:21Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was hoping for. All right, that's
- 11:24Speaker 1: enough of that. Many of us can't wait for Christmas
- 11:26Speaker 1: songs to start playing on the radio every single year,
- 11:29Speaker 1: and others of us, you know, we want to hold
- 11:31Speaker 1: off Mariah Carey as long as is humanly possible. Either way,
- 11:36Speaker 1: wherever we land in that debate, few of us probably
- 11:38Speaker 1: think about the days before radio, you know, the silent
- 11:41Speaker 1: days of Christmas. So let's go back to the day
- 11:44Speaker 1: that Christmas hit the airwaves for the very first time.
- 11:47Speaker 1: And we're gonna do that right after this Homan Progress
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- 12:07Speaker 1: the best. Well, we're just kicking off our Christmas Extravaganza
- 12:11Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and as I mentioned in the last segment,
- 12:14Speaker 1: at the end of the show, I'm going to give
- 12:17Speaker 1: away ten one hundred dollars Repcolite gift certificates and to
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- 12:24Speaker 1: just send me an email right now or anytime throughout
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- 12:31Speaker 1: and you tell me your favorite Christmas memory, your favorite
- 12:33Speaker 1: Christmas song, favorite tradition, favorite story, whatever, as long as
- 12:39Speaker 1: it's Christmas related. Send those emails to Radio at repco
- 12:42Speaker 1: Light dot com. And then after the show concludes, I'll
- 12:45Speaker 1: draw ten random winners and I'll email you right away
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- 13:14Speaker 1: All Right, Christmas music it's ubiquitous, right, It's everywhere you look,
- 13:18Speaker 1: everywhere you listen. Everywhere you listen, the grocery store, the
- 13:22Speaker 1: coffee shop, the car you're driving around, even if you
- 13:25Speaker 1: try to avoid Christmas music, somehow, Mariah Carey, she's gonna
- 13:30Speaker 1: find you, right, She's gonna find you and make you
- 13:33Speaker 1: listen to everything she's saying. But here's something worth sitting
- 13:37Speaker 1: around and thinking with for just a minute. For most
- 13:40Speaker 1: of human history, Christmas was actually pretty quiet, right, No
- 13:45Speaker 1: background music, no shared soundtracks, no Bing Crosby, no Mariah,
- 13:51Speaker 1: nothing really except the sounds of song and voice that
- 13:55Speaker 1: you could generate on your own, you know, in your
- 13:58Speaker 1: own family. And that all changed for everybody on Christmas
- 14:02Speaker 1: Eve nineteen oh six with a guy who really really
- 14:05Speaker 1: wanted people to understand how smart he was and what
- 14:08Speaker 1: he had figured out. All right. His name was Reginald
- 14:11Speaker 1: Aubrey Fessenden. He was Canadian born, working in the United States.
- 14:16Speaker 1: He was briefly employed by Thomas Edison and by most accounts,
- 14:20Speaker 1: Fessenden was brilliant and difficult. The best of us are, right.
- 14:26Speaker 1: The smarter you get, the harder you are to tolerate.
- 14:29Speaker 1: He was convinced he was right about pretty much everything,
- 14:31Speaker 1: you know, everything, and that's really annoying for all his
- 14:36Speaker 1: friends and acquaintances. You know, no matter what subject came up,
- 14:40Speaker 1: good old Rege he just knew better, right, he had
- 14:44Speaker 1: something to say about everything, I'm sure you know. And
- 14:47Speaker 1: we all have a rege in our lives. Sometimes we're
- 14:49Speaker 1: the reg in our lives right in other people's lives anyway,
- 14:53Speaker 1: And to be honest, in the grand scheme of things,
- 14:55Speaker 1: it's more fun to be reg than it is to
- 14:57Speaker 1: endure reg So if you've got to chew who's you know,
- 15:01Speaker 1: you'll have fewer true friends, but you'll have more fun
- 15:03Speaker 1: at parties if you're the Redge. Anyway, good old Redge
- 15:06Speaker 1: redg Festenden. He thought he was pretty much the smartest
- 15:09Speaker 1: guy in every room that he walked into. And what
- 15:12Speaker 1: probably made him harder to tolerate than just that is
- 15:16Speaker 1: that he was usually right about it. You know, the
- 15:18Speaker 1: guy was brilliant. One of the areas where he really
- 15:21Speaker 1: demonstrated his smarts was in terms of radio. Now, we
- 15:24Speaker 1: don't even think about radio anymore. You know, we're just
- 15:27Speaker 1: so used to radio and streaming and Wi Fi and
- 15:31Speaker 1: Bluetooth and all of these different technologies that we rarely
- 15:34Speaker 1: think how crazy the concept really is, or at least
- 15:38Speaker 1: how crazy it seemed, you know, a long time ago.
- 15:41Speaker 1: I mean way back when radio, what they called wireless
- 15:45Speaker 1: was considered a near miracle. Yet it was basically just
- 15:48Speaker 1: a fancy telegraph. You know. I don't know that everybody
- 15:51Speaker 1: realizes that. But when you hear people talking about the
- 15:55Speaker 1: wireless or wireless, originally, what they're talking about is something
- 15:58Speaker 1: that really could only send and receive you know, signals
- 16:02Speaker 1: in one way. You know, on and off is the concept.
- 16:05Speaker 1: It can be beeps, clicks, you know, morse code, but
- 16:09Speaker 1: that's it, And that meant one thing very clearly. You
- 16:11Speaker 1: can't send sound over the wireless that not sound like
- 16:15Speaker 1: the human voice. You know, the human voice isn't an
- 16:18Speaker 1: on off kind of a thing. Music isn't on and off.
- 16:21Speaker 1: They're continuous waves, you know, their shape, tone, vibration, all
- 16:25Speaker 1: of that. It's not an on off thing. So that's
- 16:28Speaker 1: radio back then, that's how it worked in Reginald's day
- 16:31Speaker 1: just beeps and you know, basically morse code. But he
- 16:34Speaker 1: was adamant that it didn't need to be limited to
- 16:37Speaker 1: just that. And even though most people assumed that voice
- 16:41Speaker 1: transmission over radio, it just wasn't possible. Good old Rege,
- 16:46Speaker 1: you know, the guy, the smartest guy in the room,
- 16:47Speaker 1: the guy who knows better. He believed it was, and
- 16:50Speaker 1: he persevered, and eventually, because he really was as smart
- 16:53Speaker 1: as he thought he was, he eventually figured out the answer.
- 16:57Speaker 1: And he discovered that instead of interrupting the signal, you know,
- 17:00Speaker 1: triggering the on and off, the dots and dashes kind
- 17:02Speaker 1: of effect, instead of doing that, you could ride sound
- 17:06Speaker 1: on top of the signal. All right, you take a
- 17:08Speaker 1: steady radio wave. I'm not gonna get all sciency here.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best to not to dumb it
- 17:14Speaker 1: down because you're an incredibly brilliant audience. I'm gonna make
- 17:18Speaker 1: it as simple as possible. You take a steady radio wave,
- 17:20Speaker 1: something continuous and unbroken, and then you modulate it, you
- 17:24Speaker 1: shape it. You let the vibrations of a human voice
- 17:26Speaker 1: change the strength of that wave as it travels, so
- 17:29Speaker 1: the signal stays on the whole time, and the information
- 17:33Speaker 1: is carried in how it moves. So think about it
- 17:35Speaker 1: like ocean waves. You know, the tide is steady, that's
- 17:38Speaker 1: the radio signal. Your voice is kind of like the
- 17:41Speaker 1: wind on top of it shaping the size of the waves.
- 17:45Speaker 1: That's amplitude modulation or shortened its AM radio. And that
- 17:50Speaker 1: insight changed everything, all right. So that's what he came
- 17:56Speaker 1: up with. That's his idea. But how did he bring
- 17:59Speaker 1: you know, sound in voice and music to Christmas. Well,
- 18:02Speaker 1: that part of the story happens with a first ever
- 18:04Speaker 1: Christmas Eve broadcast that red airs. Now, what we actually
- 18:09Speaker 1: know about what happened the night that he aired this
- 18:11Speaker 1: broadcast is a little bit sketchy. You know. We know
- 18:14Speaker 1: enough to be confident that it really did happen, but
- 18:17Speaker 1: we don't know enough to really build a beautiful made
- 18:20Speaker 1: for TV movie out of it. We do know that
- 18:23Speaker 1: it happened on Christmas Eve nineteen oh six. We know
- 18:25Speaker 1: that it came from brant Rock, Massachusetts, that's where he
- 18:28Speaker 1: broadcasts from. We know that it used a continuous wave transmitter,
- 18:32Speaker 1: something that was radically different from the on off spark
- 18:35Speaker 1: transmitters that everybody else was using, and we know that
- 18:38Speaker 1: it carried music and spoken words in a way radio
- 18:41Speaker 1: simply hadn't done before. That part isn't in dispute. What's
- 18:45Speaker 1: less clear is pretty much everything else, which is really
- 18:49Speaker 1: too bad because it would make for an amazing, fun story.
- 18:53Speaker 1: But we don't have all those details. We do have
- 18:55Speaker 1: some info though, that helps us flesh it out a
- 18:58Speaker 1: little bit. We know that this wasn't spontaneous. You know
- 19:01Speaker 1: that Rege wasn't just sitting around one day and you know,
- 19:04Speaker 1: flipped on the microphone and just started talking. You know,
- 19:07Speaker 1: he'd been working towards this voice transmission for years and
- 19:10Speaker 1: this particular event was a very deliberate demonstration of the
- 19:14Speaker 1: technology and what he could do. But it also wasn't
- 19:17Speaker 1: a broadcast in the modern sense. You know, there was
- 19:19Speaker 1: no studio, no established audience, no expectation that this was
- 19:23Speaker 1: going to make headlines the next morning. You know, radio
- 19:26Speaker 1: didn't have listeners yet. It had operators, but not really listeners.
- 19:30Speaker 1: You know, nobody was listening for entertainment. It was work.
- 19:33Speaker 1: So basically, if anybody knew to listen for this broadcast,
- 19:38Speaker 1: it would really have only been a very small group.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Wireless telegraph operators on ships and possibly a few coastal stations.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Now at most they may have been told something like, hey,
- 19:47Speaker 1: keep your equipment on tonight. You might hear something kind
- 19:51Speaker 1: of unusual. You know. That's about it for the prep
- 19:54Speaker 1: and the marketing of the event. But think about it
- 19:57Speaker 1: for just a minute, because it's so intriguing to me.
- 20:00Speaker 1: You know, I love first you know, well, yes, I
- 20:04Speaker 1: love hearing about first. I don't necessarily want to be involved,
- 20:07Speaker 1: you know, in a first of anything, unless it's something
- 20:11Speaker 1: really amazing, but like the first surgery, to have such
- 20:15Speaker 1: and such removed from your body. Not big on being
- 20:17Speaker 1: the first for that, but the story is interesting just
- 20:21Speaker 1: thinking that somebody thought I can pull all of these
- 20:24Speaker 1: intestines out and set them aside and do some work
- 20:27Speaker 1: over here and put everything back in place. You know,
- 20:30Speaker 1: let's try that. You know, that first one. That's really intriguing,
- 20:34Speaker 1: just not to be the person, but to hear about it.
- 20:37Speaker 1: So I love thinking about this first broadcast. You know,
- 20:39Speaker 1: imagine being a ship's radio operator in nineteen oh six. Okay,
- 20:44Speaker 1: you're trained to listen for beeps, clicks, patterns. That's it.
- 20:48Speaker 1: That's your entire world. That's all you've ever heard through
- 20:50Speaker 1: the headphones that you're sitting there, you know, monitoring. Then
- 20:54Speaker 1: you get this night Christmas Eve nineteen oh six. You're
- 20:57Speaker 1: sitting around, you're monitoring your equipment, your mind, your own business.
- 21:00Speaker 1: You're thinking about parties or whatever. I wish I was home,
- 21:04Speaker 1: I wish I was unwrapping presents. I wish I wasn't here,
- 21:07Speaker 1: you know whatever. And then all of a sudden, something
- 21:09Speaker 1: comes to the static that's completely unexpected. It's not beeps
- 21:14Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's actually human voice. And then
- 21:17Speaker 1: you hear music, you know, a violin playing something like,
- 21:20Speaker 1: oh Holy night. It had to be absolutely an incredible moment,
- 21:26Speaker 1: you know, stunning. Yet the only info, frustratingly, the only
- 21:29Speaker 1: info we have is that a number of wireless operators
- 21:32Speaker 1: talked later about how it was impossible, you know, they
- 21:35Speaker 1: couldn't understand how this was happening. They couldn't believe what
- 21:38Speaker 1: they were hearing. Some thought their equipment was malfunctioning. Others
- 21:42Speaker 1: reached out to nearby operators to see if they were
- 21:44Speaker 1: hearing the same thing. There's some stories of people saying,
- 21:47Speaker 1: you know, my goodness, this is a human voice. It
- 21:51Speaker 1: was stunning to them. But like I said, sadly, we
- 21:53Speaker 1: don't have more of that info. But it had to
- 21:55Speaker 1: be absolutely mind blowing. Now, the broadcast itself was really short. Again,
- 22:00Speaker 1: I don't have that information. There is a reproduction of
- 22:04Speaker 1: what people think it might have sounded like. I'll link
- 22:06Speaker 1: to that in the show notes. It's really interesting and
- 22:09Speaker 1: it's well done. I mean, it's going to give you
- 22:10Speaker 1: a vibe and it's really got it, you know, a
- 22:13Speaker 1: cool feel to it. Especially listen to that reproduction with
- 22:18Speaker 1: the idea that all you've ever heard coming through speakers
- 22:21Speaker 1: before or through the headphones over the wireless are beeps
- 22:25Speaker 1: and clicks. Now imagine hearing this violin, you know, on
- 22:29Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. It had to be really really powerful. Of course,
- 22:32Speaker 1: it takes time to develop and mature and to find
- 22:35Speaker 1: its way into homes. Right in nineteen oh six, radios
- 22:38Speaker 1: were expensive, they were complicated, they were rare. Wireless stays
- 22:42Speaker 1: the thing for another decade and a half, but then
- 22:45Speaker 1: World War One ends and their surplus equipment, there's trained operators,
- 22:50Speaker 1: technical knowledge, spreads and radios become more affordable and accessible.
- 22:54Speaker 1: And then in nineteen twenty KDKA a station in Pittsburgh
- 22:58Speaker 1: broadcasts the result of the Harding Cox presidential election, and
- 23:03Speaker 1: this time regular people hear it in their living rooms,
- 23:06Speaker 1: Families all gathered around, and suddenly radio absolutely explodes. You know,
- 23:11Speaker 1: by nineteen twenty two there are hundreds of stations. By
- 23:14Speaker 1: the mid twenties, radio is everywhere, and in regards to Christmas,
- 23:18Speaker 1: radio does something almost magical to the holiday. Again, think
- 23:22Speaker 1: about it. It creates shared time and shared experiences. You know,
- 23:26Speaker 1: before radio Christmas was really really local. Whatever happened in
- 23:30Speaker 1: your house was the experience. And now all of a sudden,
- 23:34Speaker 1: millions of people everywhere can hear the same thing, the
- 23:36Speaker 1: same song, the same story, the same voice, all of
- 23:39Speaker 1: it at the same time that had never ever happened
- 23:42Speaker 1: before in the history of the world. This is an
- 23:45Speaker 1: incredibly major event. And then, of course, once advertisers and
- 23:50Speaker 1: sponsors get involved, radio doesn't just spread Christmas traditions, it
- 23:54Speaker 1: ends up creating them. Rudolph exists because of radio. White
- 23:57Speaker 1: Christmas becomes the best selling single of all time because
- 24:01Speaker 1: of radio. So when we talk about Christmas music being
- 24:04Speaker 1: everywhere today inescapable even it's worth remembering this one hundred
- 24:09Speaker 1: and twenty years ago. None of this existed, Christmas was quiet,
- 24:12Speaker 1: and then somebody figured out how to send a human
- 24:14Speaker 1: voice through the air without turning the signal on and off.
- 24:17Speaker 1: And that one technical breakthrough didn't just change communication, It
- 24:21Speaker 1: changed how we experienced time and memory and togetherness. It
- 24:26Speaker 1: took something that used to happen only in your house
- 24:29Speaker 1: and made it happen everywhere at once. So, yeah, sometimes
- 24:33Speaker 1: the music drives us a little crazy. I get that,
- 24:35Speaker 1: But it also means that the silence doesn't get to
- 24:38Speaker 1: dominate the scene the way it used to, and that
- 24:40Speaker 1: has shaped how we experienced Christmas, and honestly, it's shaped
- 24:44Speaker 1: how we experience the modern world. All Right, most of
- 24:47Speaker 1: us love Christmas lights, right, and some of us go
- 24:50Speaker 1: to extravagant measures to light up our homes and our
- 24:53Speaker 1: exteriors every season. But have you ever wondered about that
- 24:57Speaker 1: the whole process of getting there? You know, why do
- 24:59Speaker 1: we reach for lif in the first place? Why did
- 25:01Speaker 1: people a couple hundred years ago risk putting burning candles
- 25:05Speaker 1: on their trees? You know what's the big deal with
- 25:07Speaker 1: Christmas lights? Anyway, we'll get into all of that right
- 25:10Speaker 1: after this. You're listening to Home in Progress, where the
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- 25:37Speaker 1: Christmas Extravaganza twenty twenty five. And before I get to
- 25:41Speaker 1: the last segment, as I mentioned in you know pretty
- 25:45Speaker 1: much the rest of the show, all the earlier parts
- 25:47Speaker 1: of the show. At the end of the show today,
- 25:49Speaker 1: I'm going to be giving away ten one hundred dollars
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- 26:00Speaker 1: dot com. Tell me your favorite Christmas memory, your favorite
- 26:04Speaker 1: Christmas song, maybe your favorite Christmas tradition or story or anything. Honestly,
- 26:11Speaker 1: if you can't think of anything like that, just tell
- 26:13Speaker 1: me a topic that you'd love me to cover in
- 26:15Speaker 1: a future episode. Put all of that or any of
- 26:19Speaker 1: that in an email and send it to radio at
- 26:21Speaker 1: repcoll Light dot com and then I'll draw ten random
- 26:24Speaker 1: winners around nine to fifteen or so this morning, and
- 26:27Speaker 1: then I'll alert you right away as to whether you
- 26:31Speaker 1: won or not. All right, Christmas lights they're pretty cool, right.
- 26:36Speaker 1: Lots of folks invest huge amounts of time and energy
- 26:40Speaker 1: into planning and decorating their homes with them every single year.
- 26:44Speaker 1: And then another group of us, a large group of us,
- 26:47Speaker 1: spend a lot of time driving around and judging how
- 26:50Speaker 1: well these folks. Did you know my family loves this game,
- 26:54Speaker 1: and I know you all do the same thing. We
- 26:56Speaker 1: all judge everybody all the time. We walk past or
- 26:59Speaker 1: drive past houses and we're scoping them out. Do they
- 27:03Speaker 1: pass the test? Do they fail? Do we like that
- 27:07Speaker 1: combination of lights over there? Do we like those colors?
- 27:10Speaker 1: Or are those a little gaudy? Those might be a
- 27:12Speaker 1: little gaudy. What do you guys think? What about the
- 27:14Speaker 1: flashing lights over here? Are we up on those? Do
- 27:17Speaker 1: we like them? Are they making us feel festive or
- 27:20Speaker 1: are they kind of making us feel like we're gonna
- 27:22Speaker 1: have a seizure? You know, we do that all season long.
- 27:26Speaker 1: We love it anyway. Christmas lights, there's so much a
- 27:29Speaker 1: part of our modern Christmas celebrations that I really doubt
- 27:32Speaker 1: many of us spend a lot of time thinking about
- 27:34Speaker 1: the fact that for most of history history, for most
- 27:39Speaker 1: of history, having Christmas lights actually meant toying around with
- 27:42Speaker 1: potential life altering fire damage and destruction. Right if you
- 27:47Speaker 1: were going to win any home decorating contests back then
- 27:50Speaker 1: around the Christmas season, you had to be willing to
- 27:53Speaker 1: run the risk of burning your house to the ground.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Because remember, having lights on a tree until relatively recently,
- 27:58Speaker 1: meant literal candles and open flames on dry pine branches.
- 28:03Speaker 1: So when I think about that, a ton of questions
- 28:06Speaker 1: come to mind. You know, first, why did people decide
- 28:09Speaker 1: to add lights to Christmas trees in the first place?
- 28:11Speaker 1: You know, what made them think it was okay to
- 28:14Speaker 1: do that? To bring those lights in with candles? You know,
- 28:17Speaker 1: what did they do to keep it safe? And then
- 28:19Speaker 1: how did we get from candles to electric lights? I mean,
- 28:22Speaker 1: we all know it's the natural flow of progress, But
- 28:24Speaker 1: there was a first time that people saw electric lights
- 28:27Speaker 1: on the tree. What was that like? And how did
- 28:29Speaker 1: it move from there and end up in all of
- 28:32Speaker 1: our homes? So let's look at all of that, and
- 28:34Speaker 1: let's start here why did people start adding lights to
- 28:37Speaker 1: the tree and what made them think it was okay
- 28:39Speaker 1: to do that with candles? Well, first off, the reason
- 28:42Speaker 1: for adding lights goes way deeper than just thinking it
- 28:44Speaker 1: looked pretty. There's a lot of symbolism and hope and
- 28:48Speaker 1: belief wrapped up in the lights. You know, darkness back
- 28:50Speaker 1: then was way different than darkness is now. You know,
- 28:54Speaker 1: you can just hear the old timers if you listen.
- 28:57Speaker 1: You know, back in my day, the darkness it was
- 29:00Speaker 1: really dark, not this wimpy darkness that you've got today. Right,
- 29:04Speaker 1: can't you hear the old people just saying that at
- 29:07Speaker 1: all the family get togethers. I can. But as silly
- 29:11Speaker 1: as that concept kind of sounds, it was actually true.
- 29:14Speaker 1: You know. Back in the day that darkness was dark.
- 29:17Speaker 1: I mean there's no street lights, there's no glow you know,
- 29:20Speaker 1: from neighboring houses, there's no cars going by on a
- 29:23Speaker 1: regular basis. Once the sun went down, the world went
- 29:27Speaker 1: pretty dark. So light wasn't just decorative, It was psychological.
- 29:31Speaker 1: You know. It pushed back against something people genuinely feared,
- 29:34Speaker 1: and humans have been fighting winter darkness for ages, you know,
- 29:39Speaker 1: long before Christianity was prevalent. In Europe, people celebrated the
- 29:43Speaker 1: winter solstice with fire and light, you know, the Yule log, bonfires,
- 29:47Speaker 1: candles and windows and so on. And then when Christianity
- 29:50Speaker 1: spread through Europe, it didn't erase these traditions, it redeemed them.
- 29:54Speaker 1: You know. The Church took that ancient human need light
- 29:57Speaker 1: in the darkness and it gave it new meaning. You know,
- 30:00Speaker 1: Christmas falls right after the winter solstice, the darkest point
- 30:03Speaker 1: of the year, and Christianity said, this is when the
- 30:06Speaker 1: light of the world enters the world. You know, christ
- 30:09Speaker 1: is that light, hope is breaking into the darkness. The
- 30:11Speaker 1: candles on the tree weren't just pushing back the night anymore.
- 30:15Speaker 1: They were actually representing something eternal and something incredibly hopeful.
- 30:20Speaker 1: And for people whose faith shaped pretty much every part
- 30:22Speaker 1: of daily life, that symbolism wasn't abstract, it was essential.
- 30:26Speaker 1: You know. They knew there was danger in putting candles
- 30:29Speaker 1: on the tree, but the meaning or the symbolism justified
- 30:32Speaker 1: the danger. And also when it comes to understanding how
- 30:35Speaker 1: or why they would accept that risk so readily, we
- 30:38Speaker 1: should remember a couple of things that it kind of
- 30:40Speaker 1: puts it in perspective. First off, the folks that lived
- 30:44Speaker 1: in this world. They lived with fire all the time.
- 30:47Speaker 1: You know, homes were heated by open flames, food was
- 30:50Speaker 1: cooked over fire. Candles and oil lamps were the only
- 30:53Speaker 1: source of light after sunset, So fire wasn't an unusual
- 30:57Speaker 1: danger like it kind of is to us now. It
- 31:01Speaker 1: was pretty much a daily companion, So lighting a tree
- 31:03Speaker 1: with candles didn't feel as completely foreign and nuts to
- 31:07Speaker 1: them as it does to us. And to keep things
- 31:10Speaker 1: as safe as possible, here's some things I wasn't aware
- 31:14Speaker 1: of I should have, you know. I guess if you
- 31:15Speaker 1: just think it through for more than two minutes, you'll
- 31:17Speaker 1: come to this conclusion. But I never thought it through
- 31:21Speaker 1: for more than just a couple minutes. Anyway. The tree
- 31:24Speaker 1: wasn't lit all night long, you know, with the candles.
- 31:26Speaker 1: You know, it's not like what we do now. The
- 31:29Speaker 1: tree was basically lit very briefly, you know, often for
- 31:32Speaker 1: just a few minutes, and usually only on Christmas Eve.
- 31:35Speaker 1: You know, the family gathered together. That one kid, you know,
- 31:39Speaker 1: we've all got that one kid or maybe more of
- 31:41Speaker 1: them in our home who knocks everything over and breaks everything.
- 31:44Speaker 1: You know, that kid was probably locked away in another
- 31:47Speaker 1: room somewhere. But the rest of the family would gather,
- 31:50Speaker 1: they'd light the tree, they'd have a moment, probably say
- 31:52Speaker 1: a prayer, sing a song, and then they'd put the
- 31:54Speaker 1: candles out, and on top of that, most of them
- 31:57Speaker 1: had water ready to go, you know, just in So
- 32:00Speaker 1: those are the beginnings, and then we move into the
- 32:02Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds and we start to get some safety improvements,
- 32:06Speaker 1: but it's not like they're really knocking it out of
- 32:08Speaker 1: the park here, so don't get too excited. For example,
- 32:10Speaker 1: you get candle holders, little clip on devices, little metal
- 32:14Speaker 1: mounts that will hold the candle upright, but you're still
- 32:17Speaker 1: clipping them, you know, burning candles onto pine branches. So
- 32:21Speaker 1: it was all baby steps at that point. The big
- 32:24Speaker 1: shift started in the late eighteen hundreds when electricity began
- 32:28Speaker 1: to slowly make its way into Holmes. Then in eighteen
- 32:31Speaker 1: eighty two, Edward H. Johnson, the vice president of the
- 32:34Speaker 1: Edison Electric Light Company, Edward H. Johnson, decorated a Christmas
- 32:39Speaker 1: tree in New York with eighty electric light bulbs. And
- 32:42Speaker 1: not only that, he did it with incredible flare. You know,
- 32:46Speaker 1: the bulbs were red, white, and blue, and the tree
- 32:48Speaker 1: actually rotated on a revolving pedestal. Now, the display that
- 32:52Speaker 1: he set up drew a crowd, it drew the press,
- 32:55Speaker 1: and everybody was excited because at the time, you know,
- 32:57Speaker 1: electric lighting itself was still new and exciting, and nobody
- 33:00Speaker 1: had really ever seen a Christmas tree put together. You know,
- 33:04Speaker 1: there are newspaper articles we can still find today where
- 33:07Speaker 1: they recount, you know, just this amazing thing that they
- 33:11Speaker 1: were viewing, you know, seeing all these lights on a tree.
- 33:13Speaker 1: They found it. You know, the people who were writing
- 33:15Speaker 1: the articles found it to be one of the most
- 33:17Speaker 1: beautiful things they'd ever seen in their lives. It was
- 33:19Speaker 1: that exciting. But even with all that, even with the
- 33:22Speaker 1: fact that it looked amazing, the costs and the fact
- 33:25Speaker 1: that most homes didn't have electricity kind of made the
- 33:27Speaker 1: whole idea of Christmas lights electric ones non starters. Candles,
- 33:32Speaker 1: even with all their problems, were still cheap, They were
- 33:34Speaker 1: still familiar and so for a while yet they persisted.
- 33:37Speaker 1: In fact, for about another twenty five years, candles were
- 33:41Speaker 1: still the primary way that most people lit their trees. Then, finally,
- 33:45Speaker 1: by the early nineteen hundreds, as electricity becomes more common
- 33:48Speaker 1: in the cities, you start seeing electric Christmas lights show
- 33:51Speaker 1: up more often. The biggest step to get us to
- 33:54Speaker 1: you know, where we are today. That biggest step came
- 33:57Speaker 1: in nineteen seventeen when a teenager named Albert Sedaka thought
- 34:01Speaker 1: to repurpose the white novelty lights that his family produced
- 34:05Speaker 1: in their business and switch them over to colored bulbs,
- 34:08Speaker 1: creating the very first Christmas lights that were safe for
- 34:10Speaker 1: widespread use in the homes. Now. He proposed that idea,
- 34:14Speaker 1: worked on it, and it took off. And as these
- 34:16Speaker 1: lights were mass produced, the costs came down, and finally
- 34:20Speaker 1: average families could afford them. And from there the transition
- 34:23Speaker 1: away from candles accelerated quickly. You know, within a decade
- 34:26Speaker 1: or two, the idea of lighting a Christmas tree with
- 34:29Speaker 1: open flames wouldn't feel just old fashioned. It feel absolutely nuts,
- 34:34Speaker 1: you know, pretty much like we would think of it today.
- 34:37Speaker 1: And as those lights became more and more popular and
- 34:40Speaker 1: began to see more and more use, something really interesting
- 34:43Speaker 1: begins to happen. You know, just like we talked about
- 34:45Speaker 1: with radio and how that changed the vibe of Christmas.
- 34:50Speaker 1: With the lights, the whole vibe of Christmas starts to change.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Electric lights make the Christmas tree less of a brief
- 34:56Speaker 1: supervised moment and more of an all night glow. Leave
- 35:00Speaker 1: them on the entire Christmas season. You can enjoy them
- 35:03Speaker 1: all of that time safely. You can sit in the
- 35:05Speaker 1: living room and let the tree be a part of
- 35:07Speaker 1: the atmosphere, not just an event that you risk your
- 35:10Speaker 1: life and you're home for. You don't need twelve buckets
- 35:13Speaker 1: of water sitting in the living room just in case. Anyway,
- 35:16Speaker 1: once the indoor lights became reliably safe, the next obvious
- 35:20Speaker 1: step was to go outdoors. And that brings us to
- 35:23Speaker 1: where we're at today with all of the crazy, you know,
- 35:26Speaker 1: chaotic and amazing Christmas light displays that we see all
- 35:29Speaker 1: around our neighborhoods this time of year. All right, there
- 35:32Speaker 1: you go. That's going to do it for this episode
- 35:34Speaker 1: of Home and Progress. The next two weeks are going
- 35:37Speaker 1: to be a couple of best of shows that I'll
- 35:39Speaker 1: put together, and then starting January ten, we'll be back
- 35:42Speaker 1: with new stuff. Now, I want to wish all of
- 35:44Speaker 1: you from all of us at Repcolite, a very merry
- 35:46Speaker 1: Christmas and a happy New Year. And don't forget to
- 35:49Speaker 1: get your emails in if you want a chance to
- 35:51Speaker 1: win one of ten one hundred dollars Repcollite gift certificates.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Email me right now at radio at Repcolit dot com
- 35:57Speaker 1: and tell me something about your favorite Christmas or your
- 36:01Speaker 1: favorite song, your favorite Christmas song, or even tell me
- 36:03Speaker 1: some topics that you'd love me to cover on new episodes.
- 36:06Speaker 1: As we start twenty twenty six, I'll be digging through
- 36:08Speaker 1: all of the emails I've received from the beginning of
- 36:10Speaker 1: the show until about nine point fifteen this morning, and
- 36:13Speaker 1: then I'll pick ten random winners. Remember, though, I'm going
- 36:17Speaker 1: to respond to all of these emails, so just because
- 36:20Speaker 1: you get an email back from me, don't assume you
- 36:23Speaker 1: won only to end up being disappointed. The message is
- 36:26Speaker 1: going to tell you if you want or not. So
- 36:28Speaker 1: when you see an email come, you still got to
- 36:31Speaker 1: read it to find out if you want. Don't get
- 36:32Speaker 1: all pumped up and think you're a winner and then
- 36:36Speaker 1: be disappointed. I hate to bring disappointment, So get those
- 36:39Speaker 1: emails into radio at repcol Light dot com. You've got
- 36:41Speaker 1: a few minutes yet. All right, everybody, have a great
- 36:44Speaker 1: weekend and a blessed Christmas, and I'll see you next week.
- 36:47Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hansen for Home in Progress. Thanks for listening.