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Ep. 13 | Leadership & Lawlessness in Deer Valley USD w/Kim Fisher · The Myth of Education Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: Right up front,
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to say to all the secular humanists,
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  SPEAKER_02: the atheists,
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  SPEAKER_02: the leftists,
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  SPEAKER_02: the godless,
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  SPEAKER_02: the LGBTQ and DEI activists,
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  SPEAKER_02: we Christians,
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  SPEAKER_02: that is,
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  SPEAKER_02: those of us who believe Jesus Christ is the way,
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  SPEAKER_02: the truth,
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  SPEAKER_02: and the life,
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  SPEAKER_02: who believe sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is sin,
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  SPEAKER_02: who believe in closed borders,
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  SPEAKER_02: who believe abortion is murder,
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  who believe the Bible is infallible and the ultimate authority
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  on all matters of
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  SPEAKER_02: morality.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes,
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  SPEAKER_02: we Christians,
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  we exist to uphold the truth and to give you an opportunity to
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  confess your sins
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  SPEAKER_02: and receive salvation from our righteous King.
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  SPEAKER_02: He is coming soon.
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  You can willingly bow now and be accepted into his kingdom or
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  be forced to bow
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  SPEAKER_02: later and spend eternity in a lake of fire.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's your choice.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm just the messenger.
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  And if you're wondering why I chose to interview this
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  particular special guest
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  SPEAKER_02: today,
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  SPEAKER_02: knowing what I know about her,
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  SPEAKER_02: knowing what you know about her,
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  SPEAKER_02: knowing what the Deer Valley community knows about her,
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  SPEAKER_02: let's just say I chose to interview her on purpose,
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  SPEAKER_02: if for no other reason than to get your attention.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're listening to the Myth of Education podcast,
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  Before our guest comes on in the next segment,
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  I want to play a clip and give you my reaction.
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  These are the public comments of Deer Valley USD board member
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  Stephanie Simacek.
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  SPEAKER_02: Take a listen.
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  I'm really glad that you shared the federal HB1 bill as well as
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  what we're seeing
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  SPEAKER_00: at the state legislature.
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  SPEAKER_00: We continue to hear bills that do nothing for public education.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's extremely unfortunate.
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  The ESA vouchers most definitely need to have some
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  accountability and transparency applied.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now we're seeing at a federal level that
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  One of the questions we repeatedly ask an ed committee when a
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  bill comes through
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  SPEAKER_00: is,
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  what about charter schools or what about those who receive the
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  ESA vouchers?
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  SPEAKER_00: We heard a transparency bill today that would only affect public schools.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that when taxpayer dollars are being...
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  SPEAKER_00: to pay for all of these,
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  that they all need to be accounted for and that we need to make
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  sure that all of
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  SPEAKER_00: the same rules apply to those.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's at minimum what we can do to respect taxpayer dollars.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I continue to support bills that are pro-public education,
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  SPEAKER_00: making sure that we have accountability and transparency for that.
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  And I will continue to oppose bills that do nothing to help
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  everyday Arizonans.
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  And I will continue to oppose bills that single out certain
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  groups of individuals
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  when I strongly believe that public education is a place for
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  unity and for everyone
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  SPEAKER_00: where everyone belongs.
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  SPEAKER_02: First of all, there's nothing that should be done for public schools.
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  SPEAKER_02: They are a cesspool of financial corruption,
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  SPEAKER_02: predatory employees,
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  SPEAKER_02: dumbed-down curriculum,
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  SPEAKER_02: and increased displays of perverted celebrations and DEI activism.
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  SPEAKER_02: Public schools are unworthy of taxpayer dollars.
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  I would rather give $7,000 to a parent who's taking control of
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  their children's
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  SPEAKER_02: education than to pay $10,000 per student.
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  And the best DVUSD can do is produce math and reading
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  proficiencies at 50 to 55%.
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  The last I checked,
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  50 to 55%,
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  is an F.
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  DVUSD in its current state is a failure.
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  SPEAKER_02: The enrollment numbers are sketchy at best.
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  So while all the leftist anti-parental rights activists are
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  attacking ESAs and
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  SPEAKER_02: crying out for transparency and accountability,
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  Arizona government schools are wasting billions with a B on
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  rainbow and liberal
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  supremacy activism and producing citizens who can't even write
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  their own names on a
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  SPEAKER_02: job application.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yes, the burden of transparency is right where it belongs.
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  Myself and voters like me will continue to oppose anti-parental
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  rights policies and
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  SPEAKER_02: failed leadership tactics that contribute to our state's dismal academic
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  SPEAKER_02: performance.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now,
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  I also want to address the godless secular humanists whose name
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  isn't worth the
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  SPEAKER_02: breath that's lobbying against LifeWise and House Bill 2266,
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  SPEAKER_02: which allows students to be excused from school for religious purposes.
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  SPEAKER_02: If Mormons can do it, so can Christians.
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  SPEAKER_02: And no, we're not the same.
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  SPEAKER_02: Every secular humanist is a hypocrite, to be sure.
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  It's your anti-Christ religion that has dominated public
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  schools for over six decades.
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  Prayer and Bible reading haven't been a staple in public
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  education since 1963.
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  If you bothered to read the Constitution,
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  everything about House Bill 2266 is in order.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everything about LifeWise is in order.
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  SPEAKER_02: In fact,
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  SPEAKER_02: Christian teachers right now,
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  SPEAKER_02: according to the First Amendment,
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  SPEAKER_02: you actually do have the right to talk about your faith at any time.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if you're fired for it, sue the district.
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  SPEAKER_02: If hell-bound people have a right to wave rainbow flags on campus,
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  SPEAKER_02: then you have a right to talk about God.
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  SPEAKER_02: After all, he created the rainbow.
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  SPEAKER_02: It has seven colors,
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  SPEAKER_02: not six,
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  SPEAKER_02: and the black and brown and lesbian stripes are especially retarded.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the sort of thing that should not be on school grounds.
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  SPEAKER_02: So in response to every anti-Christian,
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  SPEAKER_02: anti-parental rights,
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  SPEAKER_02: anti-common sense activist,
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  SPEAKER_02: just know that the resistance isn't going away.
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  SPEAKER_02: As I said in my opener,
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  we are here to uphold the truth and to advocate for the safety
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  and well-being of
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  SPEAKER_02: children.
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  SPEAKER_02: Matthew 18 says that anyone who causes a child to stumble,
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  SPEAKER_02: to lose heart,
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  SPEAKER_02: to sin,
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  it would be better for that person to have a millstone tied
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  around their neck and
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  SPEAKER_02: be drowned in the depths of the sea.
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  SPEAKER_02: God said it first.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm just repeating what he said.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if anyone who's listening in Arizona and across the nation,
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  SPEAKER_02: if you're in the business of purposely seeking to pervert,
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  SPEAKER_02: indoctrinate,
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  SPEAKER_02: and corrupt children,
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  SPEAKER_02: you're accountable for what you've heard.
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  SPEAKER_02: And now you know where you stand.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome, Kim Fisher, to the Myth of Education podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you taking the time to sit and talk with me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: I am Kim Fisher.
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  I'm speaking for myself and not the Deer Valley USD Governing
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  Board or any other
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  SPEAKER_03: organization I may be affiliated with.
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  This is all my opinions and my thoughts about any topic that we
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  talk about.
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  So I wanted to walk through your most recent board meeting and
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  thinking about the
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  SPEAKER_02: first 30 minutes of a DVUSD board meeting.
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  SPEAKER_02: If a parent or a community member only watched the first 30 minutes,
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  SPEAKER_02: they would think that everything is hunky-dory.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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  from the announcer's nasally high-pitched voice to the audience
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  clapping like seals
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  SPEAKER_02: the whole time.
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  I mean,
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  maybe it's an acoustic thing,
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  you know,
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  because I'm watching it online.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, what is the point of the school letter grades?
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  And why do we have a parade at the beginning of every Deer
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  Valley board meeting?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's not just for school letter grades.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know,
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  SPEAKER_03: originally,
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  we used to have awards and ceremonies for kids that had done
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  great things for
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  SPEAKER_03: competitions for our students.
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  It used to be a very organic and very pleasant event that we
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  used to have.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it was a part of our governing board meetings.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was always positive.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was always about the kids, always centered with the kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: Then around 2017,
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  SPEAKER_03: 18,
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  the new superintendent decided it would be best if it was no
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  longer a part of the
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  SPEAKER_03: board meeting,
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  SPEAKER_03: but rather was before the board meeting.
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  At times,
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  we still do definitely celebrate the kids,
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  but most of the time it is marketing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some of the awards are very real.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know that this A-plus is really a positive thing or not.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it's somewhat misleading for parents.
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  You can be an A-plus school district or an A-plus school and
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  have a lot of failing students.
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  SPEAKER_03: In fact, have a overall failing grade.
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  SPEAKER_03: The criteria for the
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  SPEAKER_03: the accountability isn't necessarily the performance of the kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's a whole series of things that are done to gain that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's not necessarily proficiency.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not even necessarily based on children.
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  I will tell you that some of our schools try very,
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  very,
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  very hard to obtain that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think the marketing of it is more the district,
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  SPEAKER_03: but the schools themselves do work hard to earn recognition as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think the school letter grade,
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  SPEAKER_02: the system that basically the ADE came up with,
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  why are we not basing this on proficiency and the success rate
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  of the students
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  SPEAKER_02: being able to master basic subjects?
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  SPEAKER_02: Why can't we have a school letter grade based on education?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, that's a great question.
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  I would love to talk to the Department of Education and ask
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  them why they have it
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  SPEAKER_03: set the way it is.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because a lot of times,
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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  we've dropped grades for nothing more than opening a new school
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  and it not being
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  SPEAKER_03: around long enough.
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  to count,
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  and we've gone up just because the paperwork was filled out a
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  certain way.
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  So if the A to F accountability that the Department of Ed came
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  up with is not
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  SPEAKER_03: significant to telling us that there's proficiency,
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  SPEAKER_03: that there's good results at this school,
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  SPEAKER_03: then I would question what the purpose of it is.
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  And I think that's a wonderful conversation,
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  especially now that this is an election year.
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  SPEAKER_03: We should be asking that of the candidates.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, Kimberly Yee, what does she think about it?
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  I think that would be a great thing to know because it needs to
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  be meaningful.
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  SPEAKER_03: If it's not meaningful, I don't know why we're bothering to do it.
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  I think people have gotten better at filling out the answers
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  and the paperwork.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I don't personally care about the paperwork.
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  SPEAKER_03: I care about the kids and their proficiency.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well,
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  perhaps when there are opportunities for Kimberly Yee to speak
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  to her constituents
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  SPEAKER_02: specifically about the school letter grades,
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  SPEAKER_02: we will get something coherent.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if Tom would be able to give us something coherent.
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  SPEAKER_02: He seems to think that the success of any school district in Arizona,
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  SPEAKER_02: it lives or dies by him being in office.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so perhaps the school letter grades are...
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  SPEAKER_02: based on whether or not he's in office.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, it started before him, and I assume it would continue after him.
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  SPEAKER_03: But,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: I will happily send him an email and ask that question,
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  SPEAKER_03: because if it's not based on proficiency,
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  SPEAKER_03: what's the point?
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  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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  So someone filled out an open meeting law complaint against
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  DVUSD governing board,
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  and it stuck.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't even know that that was a real thing.
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  I know I have filled out many complaints and the good for
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  nothing AG's office only
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  SPEAKER_02: responded to me once Trump was reelected.
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  Some of those complaints were like two or three years old and I
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  forgot that I had
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  SPEAKER_02: even filed them.
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  SPEAKER_02: So for the audience,
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  can you explain what is open meeting law and why did DVUSD
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  sustain that reprimand
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  SPEAKER_02: from the AG?
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  SPEAKER_03: This one's hilarious.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're going to love this one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Their finding wasn't on DVUSD or the board.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was on me specifically, which I find hilarious.
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  I myself have filed open meeting law complaints on DVUSD
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  because they regularly violate.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you're right.
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  SPEAKER_03: The AG's office does nothing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely nothing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Our meetings are to be open to the public.
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  An open meeting law violation is when we either we do something
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  that shuts out the
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  SPEAKER_03: public,
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  SPEAKER_03: because if we were to have a meeting and we did not allow the public in,
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  SPEAKER_03: we did not allow the public to hear,
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  SPEAKER_03: that was not an executive session.
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  SPEAKER_03: But executive sessions are special.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because there are times when we're allowed to talk confidential.
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  There's very few subjects that we're allowed to talk about
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  confidential in executive sessions.
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  But the thing with an executive session is you are not allowed
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  to share it with anyone.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't come home and tell my husband about it.
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  I don't come home and tell my family about it because it is a
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  confidential meeting.
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  And there is absolutely no reason the superintendent should go
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  home and tell his
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  SPEAKER_03: wife about it either.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's part of that.
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  SPEAKER_03: The other side of the open meeting law...
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  is the confidentiality for executive sessions and the
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  transparency in our open
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  meetings which means that we have to make sure that the public
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  can have as much
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  information as possible about our meetings about the content
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  and be able to view
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  our conversations in our discussions so if you notice my
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  questions were very
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  SPEAKER_03: pointed and they were very purposeful
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  because one of the times that they violated executive session
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  was administration
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  SPEAKER_03: told a candidate what the contents of an executive session was.
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  And the AG's office found no problem because they claimed that
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  because she was the
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  SPEAKER_03: topic of conversation,
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  SPEAKER_03: she could.
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  SPEAKER_03: The law doesn't read that way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Our attorney claims that it's that way.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not.
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't find anything that says it's okay except for a typo in the
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  county attorney's handbook but the law itself does not read
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  that way so this
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  finding i honestly feel like a conspiracy theorist even talking
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  about it because
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  all i can think of is either a lawyer is best friends with
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  someone in that office
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  or someone in the ag's office is somehow connected to deer
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  valley because we
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  violate open meeting law all the time and everyone that reports
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  it it never sticks
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  SPEAKER_03: but this one
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  This was that recording where I was talking with the wife of
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  the superintendent,
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  and she kept saying over and over something that I had said in
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  an executive
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  SPEAKER_03: session.
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  And finally,
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  I said,
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  in the recording,
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  I said,
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  you shouldn't even know that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's from executive session.
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  SPEAKER_03: I said,
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't say exactly what I said,
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  SPEAKER_03: but I told her something along the lines of,
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  SPEAKER_03: but since you know it already,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you why I said it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, I did not tell her anything that happened in the executive session.
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  SPEAKER_03: Did not tell her anything that was in there.
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  SPEAKER_03: I told her how I felt, how I feel in my heart, how I feel in my being.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that is why I said what I said.
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  SPEAKER_03: Why did she know?
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  She knew because the superintendent went home and told her what
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  was said in the meeting.
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  SPEAKER_03: He tells her and shares confidential information.
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  SPEAKER_03: And she has access to records that she absolutely should not have.
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  SPEAKER_03: And has for a long time.
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  SPEAKER_03: But we're on a board that has no accountability for him.
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  SPEAKER_03: So he gets away with it, she gets away with it.
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  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, so a complaint was filed.
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  But instead of the AG admonishing the superintendent for going
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  home and telling his
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  SPEAKER_03: wife,
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  SPEAKER_03: they found that my explaining my feelings of why I said what I said was a
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  SPEAKER_03: violation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, Deer Valley doesn't inform the board about a lot.
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  So we have not even really been kept in the loop on any of the
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  potential changes of schools.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now,
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  SPEAKER_03: we're not closing any schools,
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: but even moving the boundaries,
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: we're not really being informed about those either.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_03: The superintendent keeps a lot of that to himself,
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: or he keeps it in hidden committees,
• 17:26
  or he shares it with the board members one by one so that he
• 17:29
  has a guaranteed three
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: votes.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: As far as discussions,
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: if you watch our meetings,
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: there's really no discussion on really any topic.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's mostly just rubber stamping.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: Minimal information.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I gathered that.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_02: So let's talk about that one public comment at the last board meeting.
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  And obviously this was in the context of the ICE raids that we
• 17:52
  are seeing around the country.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: And despite DVUSD being predominantly a white neighborhood district,
• 18:01
  the high school student activists made a comment about black
• 18:04
  and brown and
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: immigrant students feeling safe on school grounds.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: So first off,
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  there's not a lot of black people in Deer Valley or Arizona or
• 18:12
  the United States at
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: large.
• 18:13
  My community makes up less than 14 percent of the total
• 18:16
  population after hundreds
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: of years of occupying this country.
• 18:20
  And,
• 18:20
  you know,
• 18:20
  black on black crime and abortion has definitely held us back.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: But that's a topic for another podcast.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: The students comment, again, was in context of the ICE raids.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: From what I have seen,
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: These raids have net zero percent to do with school districts.
• 18:36
  I have not seen the video yet of any ICE agent that's been
• 18:41
  spotted on public school
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: grounds dragging an illegal alien minor from a classroom.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: But what say you?
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: Are black,
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: brown and illegal immigrant students in danger of law enforcement,
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: violence and deportation while they're attending a Deer Valley school?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you're correct.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: I have not seen,
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: neither at Deer Valley or Phoenix Union when I worked there,
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: I never saw a threat from ICE whatsoever against students.
• 19:08
  I just have never seen,
• 19:10
  I've never even heard of ICE threatening to come to schools.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: I give the young lady that came kudos just because...
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: At least she's coming forward to a board meeting and talking.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: But there are no, I've seen no threats of raids.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, I did make sure I prefaced that I do understand.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: I know everybody looks at me and sees a white girl, but I am Hispanic.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: I did have an uncle who was from Mexico who faced immigration concerns,
• 19:41
  who did at one point have to go back to Mexico to fix something
• 19:45
  in the paperwork
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: before he could come back.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: And he was married to my aunt.
• 19:50
  So just because you're married does not necessarily mean that
• 19:53
  everything is hunky dory.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think our immigration system has problems.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: But those are not going to be fixed by breaking the law.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: They're not going to be fixed by students protesting.
• 20:07
  I was highly disappointed in the students and the
• 20:13
  administrations that allowed them
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: to just blatantly disregard the law,
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: all of our policies,
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: and just walk out of our campuses.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: To your knowledge, who organized the walkouts?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm not really sure.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_03: I started getting stuff sent to me the day that they were doing it,
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: that a flyer that had been going around.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_03: So it could have been student, directly student organized.
• 20:43
  But the fact that our administrators called the police to let
• 20:49
  them know that this
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: was going on,
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: according to a letter from the principal,
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: It said that they escorted them, you know, off the campus or whatever.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: So they kept them safe up to the point of off the campus.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_03: I can't believe that they didn't at least know that it was occurring.
• 21:07
  But one of the things that he said in his letter was teaching
• 21:11
  students is not just
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_03: math and science and reading.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's also being responsible citizens.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_03: Well, this is a prime example of what's not responsible.
• 21:21
  You know,
• 21:22
  responsible would be to come in early and do your protest
• 21:27
  before school.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: Stay late.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: Do your protest after school.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_03: Do it at your lunchtime.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: Do a protest at lunch.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: But to walk out at 930 in the morning,
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: disrupt classes,
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: and then be allowed to come back and further disrupt classes,
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_03: that makes no sense.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_03: None of the laws or policies were followed.
• 21:51
  And as far as I know,
• 21:54
  there's going to be no consequence to anybody beyond being
• 21:57
  marked absent.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: this whole display has just been a demonstration of lawlessness.
• 22:03
  So what Arizona statutes and district policies specifically
• 22:08
  were broken during these protests?
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Title 15 has it all in there.
• 22:13
  There is students' responsibilities that they are going to
• 22:16
  follow the direction
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: of the district or of the learning environment,
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: that they will attend school,
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: that they will be there to learn and whatnot.
• 22:28
  Even if you just look at our student rights and
• 22:30
  responsibilities handbook,
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: they are not to be walking off campus.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: They're not to just walk out of a class the way they did.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: They also, from what I understand, we have a dress code.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: And that dress code says that you are not allowed to have profanities.
• 22:46
  you're if you were to say have the f word and any anything f f
• 22:52
  you know biden f
• 22:54
  trump any of them it it's not even political one side or the
• 22:57
  other it's not allowed
• 22:59
  the f word on your shirt is not allowed they don't allow
• 23:02
  profanities and these
• 23:04
  students had f ice on their shirts why weren't they dress coded
• 23:09
  if nothing else
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: I never said that they don't have the right to have their free speech,
• 23:15
  but what they do not have a right to do is to disrupt the
• 23:19
  learning environment.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: They don't have the right to be abusive to teachers or abusive to the
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_03: administration or to the other students or to just walk out.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: We have rules for a reason.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: And I do think they should be suspended.
• 23:33
  They should have an in-school suspension where they don't miss
• 23:37
  any of their work.
• 23:38
  And in their extra time when they're on that in-school
• 23:41
  suspension,
• 23:42
  give them a civic class.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_03: Teach them how to make...
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: a law or change a law, because then they might be able to do something.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: Just walking out didn't do anything for anybody.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that it's in the activist teachers,
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: the activist counselors,
• 24:01
  the activist employees' favor for kids to know how to civically
• 24:07
  engage their First
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: Amendment rights.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: That would just be too much common sense to have
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: gone through this the right way and done it before school, after school.
• 24:17
  But I do just want to say,
• 24:19
  for the record,
• 24:20
  that an anti-ICE protest is lawless.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: The morality behind why these protests took place, it's no good.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: It is an anti-American, anti-law enforcement walkout protest.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's how I feel about it.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: We cannot have open borders.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: We
• 24:41
  just coming into our country terrorists from other countries
• 24:45
  just coming across the
• 24:45
  border and being released the reality is if you go to any other
• 24:50
  country and think
• 24:51
  you're just going to walk across their border they're not going
• 24:54
  to allow it no
• 24:56
  other country would allow you just to cross their border and do
• 25:00
  what you want
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: without following any of their rules so why should america
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
• 25:08
  If the concern of that young student that made the public
• 25:13
  comment or any student,
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: if the concern is a matter of safety,
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: whether they're on school grounds or not,
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: then they should want the borders to be closed.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: We have people coming into this country where rape,
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: torture and murder is just a part of their culture.
• 25:29
  We now have those illegal aliens from those cultures that will
• 25:33
  come here and rape
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: and kill Americans.
• 25:37
  I wonder if that student activist that made that comment has
• 25:40
  ever heard of the name Lakin Riley.
• 25:43
  That was a young girl who lost her life in a fight against an
• 25:47
  illegal immigrant who
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: was trying to rape her.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: And he ended up crushing her skull.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: She was on a college campus.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: So we want to talk about student safety.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: And if we want to talk about feeling safe in this country,
• 25:59
  the students really need to get a grip and get a grasp and an
• 26:04
  understanding that
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: of what ICE is actually doing.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: They're trying to secure our country.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: But we know, Kim, there is an ideology at work behind these.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: There is.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: And right off the bat, student safety means that they're on campus.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: They are not just allowed to run free.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: So right off the bat, the whole walkout is is against student safety.
• 26:27
  Because not a single one of those students was safe in what
• 26:30
  they were doing.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: Agreed.
• 26:32
  There are illegal aliens from countries all over the world
• 26:37
  finding their way in.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: And you're correct.
• 26:40
  They are not all from cultures that are safe,
• 26:45
  that they don't even see females as people.
• 26:49
  The most dangerous illegal immigrants that have come to this
• 26:52
  country are from
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: Middle Eastern countries,
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: not Mexico.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: They might come through Mexico, but they're not from there.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean, this is not a racist.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's not a racist thing.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's a security and America keeping America safe.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that that is what it is.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: If they want to follow our rules,
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_03: they can follow our rules and come to this country the right way.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: And they would be welcomed.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Agreed.
• 27:19
  So you said a moment ago that you felt that all of the students
• 27:25
  should should have
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: to go through an in school suspension for the walkouts.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: I think that the students should be punished.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: by out-of-school suspension.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I realize for a lot of them that would just be a free vacation.
• 27:37
  But what an out-of-school suspension would do is it would force
• 27:41
  the parents to have
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: to take off work to sit at home with their kids.
• 27:46
  That's whose attention that I would want to get by suspending
• 27:50
  them all outside of the school.
• 27:52
  Because there is no way that these children organized a protest
• 27:57
  like that.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not just Deer Valley.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, this happened in Peoria.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: This happened down in Tucson.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: This happened in school districts across the whole United States.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: There is no way that these kids sat and organized all of this,
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: whether it was on social media or whatever,
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: and the parents just knew nothing.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh,
• 28:17
  I'm just as surprised as the administration was that my child
• 28:20
  came to school just
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: to walk out the door.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: I don't believe that, not for a second or a minute.
• 28:25
  And I think that the employees,
• 28:26
  the government workers who allowed it,
• 28:29
  who permitted it,
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think that they should be fired.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well,
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think if there was somebody that you could pinpoint,
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: say,
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: this teacher is activist out of their classroom,
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_03: I definitely think there should be consequences.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: The problem is,
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: and this is what I tell teachers all the time,
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_03: especially because I know there are some really good teachers.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: I know there are some problematic ones.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_03: But what I tell all the really good ones is, look, you know what?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: You need to speak up.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'd never understood this.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: Why they stay silent is
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_03: when the bad ones are acting out.
• 29:03
  And I can't explain that,
• 29:05
  you know,
• 29:06
  but there's a lot of issues that we have to address.
• 29:10
  I guess the first start would be is acknowledging that the
• 29:13
  parents are the primary educators.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: Parents have the say and parents need to be involved.
• 29:20
  Every child I have seen who is highly successful,
• 29:23
  their parents are highly involved.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with that.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I want to say that your boardroom is empty.
• 29:32
  I have been to more board meetings in the last year than those
• 29:37
  who are actually
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: your constituents.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: Why is your boardroom so empty?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well...
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's fear on one level.
• 29:46
  If you notice,
• 29:46
  we don't even have the podium up front where the people can
• 29:49
  speak and be seen.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I had started recording our meetings.
• 29:55
  You know,
• 29:55
  I got a lot of flack for that from,
• 29:57
  of course,
• 29:57
  one side of the aisle.
• 29:59
  But on the other side,
• 30:00
  they were like,
• 30:01
  you know,
• 30:02
  no,
• 30:02
  we want you to record them.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_03: So they asked me to go back to recording them.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_03: Parents are afraid.
• 30:07
  You know,
• 30:07
  during the whole COVID thing,
• 30:09
  there are multiple constituents,
• 30:11
  whether they're
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_03: Whether they're parents or not,
• 30:14
  they have a right to be in our boardroom and in our board
• 30:19
  meetings because they are
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: our constituents.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: They are the taxpayers.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: They were excluded.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_03: Some of them were legally trespassed.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's a problem.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_03: superintendents,
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: especially ours,
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: have gotten to where they have power and it's just pure power.
• 30:40
  All the public school administrations have pure power that they
• 30:43
  should not have.
• 30:44
  These are unelected bureaucratic boneheads who are very
• 30:49
  overpaid and they don't
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: know the law like our board members do.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: They don't take an oath to a constitution.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: They just apply for a job.
• 30:59
  And if they can manipulate the board of the way it has happened
• 31:03
  in Deer Valley,
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: then they have zero oversight.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: There is no oversight in Deer Valley whatsoever.
• 31:09
  Unless we can get a board that is willing to do the job and
• 31:15
  hold accountable,
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: nothing's going to change.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_03: But our parents, we have some that are afraid.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of them, we're very active with coming.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: They no longer come because they've pulled their kids.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: They've given up.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_03: I've had parents tell me,
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry,
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: but I'm leaving because nothing I say can make things better.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_03: And you're up there alone.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_03: So there's really not much you can do either.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_03: And they're right.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: I can't argue with them.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: here's another thing that I think is not working,
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: and you can correct me on this,
• 31:47
  because I've seen your comments and then I've seen comments
• 31:51
  from other parents in
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: different parent groups,
• 31:53
  and I think that there's definitely an outcry that's happening
• 31:57
  in Deer Valley USD
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_02: where the parents' constituents,
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: they feel unheard.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: However,
• 32:03
  I don't believe that just complaining on social media in the
• 32:06
  parent groups,
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's accomplishing anything.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: In my mind,
• 32:10
  I imagine district leaders laughing and mocking disgruntled
• 32:15
  parents and taxpayers
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: who won't face them and hold them accountable.
• 32:20
  I do think that this is a situation that needs to change
• 32:23
  because if you've got a
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: parent group that's on a social media platform and you're running 100,
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: 200,
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: and some of these groups,
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: 600,
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: 1,000 strong,
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: my strategy to them,
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_02: if any of them are listening,
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: my strategy would be
• 32:38
  Find six or seven,
• 32:39
  eight or nine extroverted,
• 32:42
  bold people and rotate them.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: Have a few of them show up every board meeting and make a public comment.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: Make a comment on issues that are on the agenda.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: Make a comment on issues that are not on the agenda.
• 32:56
  In Deer Valley specifically,
• 32:58
  there should be someone from the community every board meeting
• 33:01
  that
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: who is making it known what they expect that 15% override to accomplish.
• 33:09
  There was a lot of money that was spent on campaigning to get
• 33:12
  that override,
• 33:13
  and they got it.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: The leaders in Deer Valley, they got what they wanted.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: They have all this money, even though your enrollment is declining.
• 33:21
  If I were a Deer Valley resident,
• 33:23
  I would be in the board meeting as often as possible.
• 33:26
  And I would also be putting meetings on calendars of the
• 33:30
  leadership to let them
• 33:31
  know what my expectations are now that I have to pay additional
• 33:35
  taxes for this
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: override.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: I agree with you.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: I am one board member.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: I will speak up for you.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: I will bring light to it if I can, but I can't change anything.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: You need three votes.
• 33:51
  and and the superintendent knows that he says it in board
• 33:54
  meetings all of a sudden
• 33:55
  well if you can get three votes you know so it's it's blatant
• 33:59
  just disregard for
• 34:01
  the community but it's up to the community and that's what i
• 34:04
  tell them get your
• 34:06
  community together if this really bothers you and y'all need to
• 34:10
  come and speak at a
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_03: meeting if the board members that are rubber stamping everything
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: are held accountable by you coming in and speaking.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: So at this point, it is in the hands of the public.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_03: We used to have the public come all the time.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they filled our room.
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  And that's why they moved the comments and stuff all the way to
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  the end of the meeting.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's all a strategy.
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  If you look at when I was board president,
• 34:38
  the comments were at the front of the meeting.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: Anytime there's been a pro-parent board president,
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: the comments are moved to the front of the meeting.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: Anytime there's a pro-admin board,
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: Board president, the comments are moved to the very end of the meeting.
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  It's because they count on you getting tired of not sitting
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  through that meeting
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  SPEAKER_03: and coming to talk.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_02: That is a strategy that I think constituents need to be aware of.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: Your board is supposed to be a conservative majority,
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: but right now,
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: to me,
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: it looks like a mess.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: I see two conservatives.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: I see two assertive Democrats.
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  And then I see a soft Democrat that identifies as a Republican
• 35:19
  that the LDs continue to back.
• 35:22
  And that's unfortunate because DVUSD is not as far gone as some
• 35:26
  districts.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: You're not Scottsdale.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: You're not Mesa.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: You're not Tucson Unified.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: Deer Valley, in my opinion, is not that far gone.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: You have an election that's coming up this November.
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  What candidates should Deer Valley residents be looking at to
• 35:41
  regain a common sense
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: majority on your board?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the only one I know of for sure is David Alvarado.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: And I think he is a strong individual who will hold to his values.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: So I do believe he's a good one.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm hoping we find another.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_03: We need one more good, strong candidate.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: We need Carver to be gone.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_03: He is the most damaging I've ever seen.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_03: You're right.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_03: He's supposed to be a Republican.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_03: And Simicek needs to be gone.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think she's running.
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  I think she's just running for legislature,
• 36:15
  which she needs to not be there either.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_03: She is anti-Christian above all else.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: Anybody who's listening,
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: if you're in Deer Valley and you're willing to run,
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_03: just have a belief and stand by your belief.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_03: And don't lie about it.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_03: Win on what you believe.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_03: Stand for the parents.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I appreciate all of your insights.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you for coming on the podcast.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have any final thoughts for your constituents?
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well,
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  the only thing I can say is one that I keep telling everybody
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  is complaining online
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: or discussing online or in text is not going to do any good.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_03: We need you to show up at our board meetings.
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  SPEAKER_03: Deer Valley should have a full room of people online.
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  who are setting the expectations so please take the invitation
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  of coming to the
• 37:10
  meetings and standing up for your kids you can stand up for
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  them now in school or
• 37:17
  you can visit them later in a prison because that's the
• 37:22
  direction of kids that are
• 37:23
  not taught they run amok and they don't have bright futures so
• 37:32
  i look forward to
• 37:33
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