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Hutton & Withrow: Tennessee’s QB Change Saves the Vols + Is Cam Ward Already in Trouble? | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: We are out of the gates on Sport and State.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you. Happy start of the week. Alongside
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  Speaker 1: Chad Withrow, I'm Jonathan Hutton. This is Hutton and Withrow,
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  Speaker 2: We are presented by Hard Rock Bet. Chad, good morning, man.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Hutton.
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  Speaker 3: I can't put into proper words and context just how
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  Speaker 3: much I am thirsty and starved for a college football
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  Speaker 3: Saturday at home.
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  Speaker 2: At some point.
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  Speaker 3: We have been road warriors, both you and I, the
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  Speaker 3: past two weeks. And this week, my daughter had a
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  Speaker 3: softball tournament all day, so I got to see very
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  Speaker 3: little other than the highlight shows. I did, on my phone,
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  Speaker 3: watch Tennessee and Auburn, which we're about to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: throughout the tournament.
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, it's hard to watch much.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait just to be planted on a couch
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  Speaker 3: hut and watching college football on my quad box on
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  Speaker 3: YouTube TV all from start to finish on a Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: And it's going to have to wait because I'll be
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  Speaker 3: on the road next Saturday also as I drive for
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  Speaker 3: fall break.
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're looking for. You want to
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  Speaker 1: start with college game day. That's what you do. And
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  Speaker 1: watch it all the way through the final SEC game,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean, you would come in whenever we're
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  Speaker 1: doing 180, you would come in and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I watched it all.
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  Speaker 2: The way through the SEC Network, all of it. So,
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  Speaker 2: You want to veg out is what you want.
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  Speaker 3: I smoked some wings yesterday for the NFL games. I
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  Speaker 3: thought you said weed for a second. I could mix
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  Speaker 3: in some pellet grill smoking, you know, if needed, Hutton.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I could do that also. But for the
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  Speaker 3: most part, you know, I want to be planted and
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  Speaker 3: I want to get up and, you know, move around. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, blood clots don't set in as I watch
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  Speaker 3: football every now and again. And that's just what I
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  Speaker 3: want to do throughout the day. And I have not
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  Speaker 3: had a chance to do that. since I think week two? No,
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  Speaker 3: week one of the college football season was the last
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  Speaker 3: time I was able to plant and watch the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not complaining. I love the Dixieland Delight Friday night.
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  Speaker 3: I love having activities and all that, but I'd love
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  Speaker 3: to get back.
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  Speaker 1: To just watching football start to finish. Are you having
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  Speaker 1: that this upcoming weekend? Because we'll be on the road
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  Speaker 1: in two weeks, right?
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  Speaker 2: We will.
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  Speaker 3: We will be in Knoxville in two weeks for Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: and Alabama. Oh, boy, we need to talk about both
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  Speaker 3: of those teams after this past week.
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  Speaker 2: But, no, we'll be driving to the beach. Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: So the plan is we're going to leave early enough
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday where I will arrive in time to watch
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  Speaker 3: the late afternoon games. So 2.30 or 3, I'll be
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  Speaker 3: watching football from that point on at the beach.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll miss the early games driving. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: start with Tennessee. The Vols, they get the victory. But
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  Speaker 1: they benched the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious.
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  Speaker 1: They sit Faison Brandon. And from your perspective, Chad, you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing this happen and play out on your phone. What
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  Speaker 1: are you thinking in real time?
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  Speaker 3: So what I'm thinking in real time is Texas broke
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  Speaker 3: Faison Brandon. I mean, that's my honest reaction to it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, this kid may never recover. Because I'm watching
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  Speaker 3: that game to start. And there's two things here, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Not just that he was very, very poor in his decision-making,
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  Speaker 3: in his processing, in just simple things like don't throw
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  Speaker 3: a screen eight yards behind the receiver.
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  Speaker 2: That causes a fumble opportunity for the other team that
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  Speaker 2: goes out of bounds, but you lose, what, 10, 12 yards? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: On first down? I mean, he could not get out
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  Speaker 3: of his way. And look, I'm sympathetic because, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he got sacked 10 times. I think he got hit
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  Speaker 3: 23 times was the number. Like legitimately hit on either
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  Speaker 3: a run play, getting hit as he threw the football,
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  Speaker 3: or sacked. And got hit hard against Texas. You said
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  Speaker 3: Texas broke him. I would say Heupel would have.
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  Speaker 1: Because I came in last Monday and said, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: understand the game plan and the play calling for what
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback was doing.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't understand any of it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand the start of the game where I
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  Speaker 3: think seven of the first 11 plays were passes. And
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  Speaker 3: I know there were some short passes in there and
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  Speaker 3: things to try to get him in rhythm and all that,
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  Speaker 3: which that really didn't work out. I mean, he had
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  Speaker 3: zero yards passing after completing passes to start that game.
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  Speaker 2: And then the interception.
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  Speaker 3: Happens where that is clearly, and I've been screaming that
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  Speaker 3: the whole time, Do something to boot him out and
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  Speaker 3: give him one or two options where he's seeing only
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  Speaker 3: half the field. Cut the field in half. Don't make
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  Speaker 3: him sit and go through the entire progression because he's
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  Speaker 3: lost doing that. He's breaking off of guys too quickly
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  Speaker 3: that are about to break open or are breaking open.
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  Speaker 3: Then he's going to someone who's covered or he's hesitating
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  Speaker 3: to throw it when he sees someone is coming open.
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  Speaker 3: And that again, and by the way, I think Louis
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  Speaker 3: Riddick is terrific on color. And he nailed it right away.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, you've got to throw this thing right now.
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  Speaker 3: The play call is there. The design is there.
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  Speaker 2: The defensive look is there. Just throw the football towards
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  Speaker 2: the boundary and get you an easy 10-yard completion on
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  Speaker 2: this play. But he waits, he waits, he waits.
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  Speaker 3: And Auburn is sitting right there reading it and is
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  Speaker 3: able to undercut it and get the interception.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was the right decision by Josh Heupel.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was a ballsy decision right before half
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  Speaker 3: to put in the backup quarterback at the one-yard line.
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  Speaker 3: where he took over after the punt from Auburn or
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  Speaker 3: after Tennessee accidentally took a knee on the kickoff and.
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  Speaker 2: Got backed up. But, I mean, look, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of factors that go into it.
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  Speaker 3: He's an 18-year-old freshman that I don't think practiced a
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  Speaker 3: lot and got a lot of reps based off the
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  Speaker 3: injury he suffered against Texas. He clearly was not ready
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  Speaker 3: to play that football game. If I'm going to second-guess
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  Speaker 3: Josh Heupel, and I will on a couple of other
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  Speaker 3: fronts on this whole thing, I would say if you
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  Speaker 3: were confident enough to go to George McIntyre on that
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  Speaker 3: series late in the first half and knew that something
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  Speaker 3: was off with your quarterback, maybe start George McIntyre. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: the game after Texas is a good time to give
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  Speaker 3: him a break if he's a little banged up.
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  Speaker 2: Let him heal up. Let him watch on the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: I could tell a series into that game, this kid
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  Speaker 3: needs to go watch this game on the sideline. He
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  Speaker 3: needs to take a break right now for a minute
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  Speaker 3: and go watch things and see if he can slow
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  Speaker 3: down a little bit for him as he watches and
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  Speaker 3: isn't thrown.
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  Speaker 2: Into that SEC fire. That's what I thought in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think now.
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  Speaker 3: But I think George McIntyre handled himself beautifully when he
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  Speaker 3: came into that game. He did exactly what Tennessee needed.
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  Speaker 2: He settled things down for that offense, and he let
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  Speaker 2: Deshaun Bishop go to work.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm making a note because I'm going to get
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  Speaker 1: back to something on the freshman, on Faison Brandon. But
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  Speaker 1: let's go to McIntyre. My theory on this, when he
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  Speaker 1: came in and started playing well, I told someone, I said,
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  Speaker 1: here this goes again. Heupel goes to the backup, and
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  Speaker 1: the backup ends up taking over the job. Felt like
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  Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker, Joe Milton, a little bit. I had the
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  Speaker 1: same thought when he started moving the ball. That 42-yard completion,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, here we go. My theory is he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: practice very well. That was the whole thing about Hooker.
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  Speaker 1: He just didn't practice well.
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  Speaker 2: We heard that.
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  Speaker 1: Back in camp, they were trying to manufacture some kind
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  Speaker 1: of quarterback battle, but it doesn't feel like that was
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  Speaker 1: actually the case, right? I just don't think he practices
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  Speaker 1: very well, but in the game, he can certainly come
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  Speaker 1: in and get the job done. He was better than
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  Speaker 1: just a backup quarterback is what I saw. And look,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting into the heart of the schedule now. And
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  Speaker 1: going back to Faison Brannan, Early in the season, we
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  Speaker 1: saw it from Georgia Tech on, well, even prior to that,
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  Speaker 1: but Georgia Tech, very composed. I thought he handles things well, Chad,
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  Speaker 1: for his age and how long he's been on campus.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Faison Brandon also, there's a video that circulated.
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  Speaker 2: We have it here. We're going to play it for
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  Speaker 2: you because it's him going to greet his family.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought he, even in the locker room, you
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  Speaker 3: could see him smiling and celebrating with George McIntyre when
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  Speaker 3: he got a game ball.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that he handled it.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll say it, the word that for years and
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  Speaker 3: years was a cuss word in the NCAA. He handled
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  Speaker 3: it professionally. These guys are professionals, even if they're only
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  Speaker 3: 18 years old. He's a multimillionaire.
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  Speaker 2: At Tennessee right now with the NIL deal he signed, right?
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  Speaker 3: He's handling it professionally because that's how he has to
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  Speaker 3: handle it because he's getting paid a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: George McIntyre's getting paid a lot of money to be
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  Speaker 3: the backup.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's going to be getting.
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  Speaker 3: Paid a lot of money to be the starter until
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  Speaker 3: he gets hurt or starts screwing up. But they're going
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  Speaker 3: to go back to Brandon. We have not seen the
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  Speaker 3: end of him this season. He's going to be the
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  Speaker 3: starter again. He's going to play again, I believe, at
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  Speaker 3: some point because the nature of this beast is that
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  Speaker 3: McIntyre will either struggle mightily in a game the way
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  Speaker 3: Brandon has. He's going to get hit hard. and have
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  Speaker 3: to come out of a game, and Faison Brandon's going
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  Speaker 3: to have to reenter. So it's certainly not all is
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  Speaker 3: lost for Faison Brandon. But here is Brandon, and listen
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  Speaker 3: closely as he's greeted by his family. You can hear
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  Speaker 3: his dad hints at what may have been wrong with
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  Speaker 3: him going into that game.
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  Speaker 2: So, Chad, tell me what was said based on the
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  Speaker 2: video that you have. Yeah, basically, you know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: You're banged up. Keep your head up coming into this game.
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  Speaker 2: He was not 100%.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought he broke his collarbone against Texas.
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  Speaker 3: He's holding his arm like a guy who broke his collarbone.
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  Speaker 3: He goes to the locker room, and I'm thinking he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be out for an extended period of time.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly it's not a break, but it's an injury to
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  Speaker 3: his shoulder. And I'm listening to a podcast. I'm reading
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  Speaker 3: about it all week, and it's like, hey, he's not
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  Speaker 3: on the injury report, but he is banged up going
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  Speaker 3: into this game, and they kept him off that, so
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  Speaker 3: he was going to start.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's a mix of everything.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't have a lot of prep time on the
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  Speaker 3: field in practice because of the injury and treatment that
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  Speaker 3: he's in. He's not accustomed to that, certainly at this level,
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  Speaker 3: with an SEC defense.
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  Speaker 2: Auburn's got a good defense.
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  Speaker 3: Their offense is a train wreck under Alex Golish right now,
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  Speaker 3: but their defense is really good. I think a good
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  Speaker 3: SEC defense, not great, but when they prep for you
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  Speaker 3: and they know what you're going to do and you've
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  Speaker 3: got Alex Golish as the head coach who knows exactly
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  Speaker 3: what Josh Heupel is going to do, it was this
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  Speaker 3: concoction that mixed together to completely wreck his day. Josh Heupel,
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  Speaker 3: I will give him credit, he didn't sit there and
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  Speaker 3: mess around. He didn't say, well, let's give the kid
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  Speaker 3: another chance. He saw how bad it was on that interception,
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  Speaker 3: and he went quickly to George McIntyre, and it saved
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  Speaker 3: the day. Because for the first time in that game,
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  Speaker 3: Auburn had to respect the pass.
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  Speaker 2: He hit a couple of passes. And once they respected
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  Speaker 2: the pass, what happened?
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  Speaker 3: Deshaun Bishop has a record day for 220 yards rushing,
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  Speaker 3: and they got the ground game going the way Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: wants to. They can win a lot of games with
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  Speaker 3: that formula. I mean, George McIntyre was 8 for 10
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  Speaker 3: for 86 yards. That's a fine stat line for a
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee football team in a game from the quarterback right
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  Speaker 3: now based off what that offense is.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got to defend those two quarterbacks in a
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  Speaker 1: different way. The game plan changes ever so slightly. You
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  Speaker 1: can still run the ball effectively. which is what Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: does well. But when it comes to the receivers, as
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  Speaker 1: long as the receivers show up and they're professional, going
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  Speaker 1: back to the way you described Faison Brandon, they can
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  Speaker 1: move the football well in this. I thought it saved
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  Speaker 1: the game. Auburn's not great by any means, but I've
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  Speaker 1: I could see another turnover happening.
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  Speaker 2: There is no doubt, Hutton. No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: They don't win that. They lose that game if Faison
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  Speaker 3: Brandon continues to play.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Heupel chose that moment to put the
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  Speaker 1: backup in against his own goal because there's a chance
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  Speaker 1: there that Brandon hangs onto the ball too long or something.
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  Speaker 1: And it goes awry and he takes a safety. That
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  Speaker 1: was my theory on it, but you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: put your back up in that situation. That just tells
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  Speaker 1: you that Heupel, maybe he wanted to do exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you said. It's like, man, he just doesn't have it today.
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  Speaker 1: Gave him another drive or two, and then you had
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  Speaker 1: to put him in. Let's also note, my prediction came
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  Speaker 1: true during that game. The moment Tennessee looks like hell
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: in the game, everyone's going to start talking about the uniforms.
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  Speaker 2: Get rid of these shitty gray uniforms. What is that helmet?
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  Speaker 2: Get it out of here.
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  Speaker 3: I never want to see these again. Throw it in
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  Speaker 3: a trash pile and burn them. Why are we not
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  Speaker 3: wearing our traditional uniforms? I'm getting texts from buddies that
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  Speaker 3: are like, I never want to see this helmet or
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: these uniforms again. I'm at the softball tournament. My Florida
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: Gator dad who's there is like, what are these helmets
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee's wearing?
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  Speaker 2: And I tried to.
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  Speaker 3: Explain it was to honor General Neyland. Hey, credit Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: for honoring General Neyland. by running the single wing for
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  Speaker 3: an entire game. I mean, I'm watching that first half,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, there is no better way than to
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  Speaker 3: honor General Nealon by both Tennessee and Auburn coming out
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  Speaker 3: and trying to run the single wing from 1938 against
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  Speaker 3: each other in that game.
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  Speaker 2: Also, the game maxims.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this was actually the perfect General Nealon tribute game.
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  Speaker 3: Number one, the team that makes the fewest mistakes will win.
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee made fewer mistakes. Play for and make the breaks
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  Speaker 3: when one comes your way.
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  Speaker 2: Score, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: After a big fourth down turnover, they go and score
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  Speaker 3: and put the game away. Protect our kickers, our quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: our lead in our ball game. Press the kicking game.
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  Speaker 3: Here is where the breaks are made. That is maxim
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  Speaker 3: number six. How about Jackson Ross? Five times inside the
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  Speaker 3: 10-yard line. pinning Auburn deep. It was an old school
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  Speaker 3: smash mouth. No one has a good offense. No one
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  Speaker 3: has a good quarterback. Let's try to pin the other
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  Speaker 3: team deep type of game for really about two and
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  Speaker 3: a half, three quarters of that game. Auburn got going late.
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee missed a couple tackles. Byron Brown had that 70
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  Speaker 3: plus yard run. They got it going a little bit
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  Speaker 3: when Tennessee went a little bit more lax defensively. But
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  Speaker 3: I will say this on the positive side, even without
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  Speaker 3: Quay Moss, who arguably, it's either him or Xavier Gilliam
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  Speaker 3: as the best players on Tennessee's defense, even without him,
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee's defense is a great SEC defense. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: top four or five in the league. And his replacement,
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  Speaker 3: Tevis Metcalf, gets the interception in the game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they've been playing very well.
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  Speaker 1: The whole talk about whether or not they would pick
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  Speaker 1: up on the scheme in year one is out the door.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going very well based on that change.
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  Speaker 1: Heupel's made good decisions with that. He's made The smart
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  Speaker 1: decision with McIntyre. Chad, I do wonder, just on Auburn's stance,
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  Speaker 1: the whole Baylor game to start the year. I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: Baylor this weekend. I'm like, man, the two teams don't
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  Speaker 1: look anything like the way that game finished. It was
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  Speaker 1: the defense that got that done, too. Or you make
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  Speaker 1: an accurate pass and you lead your receiver and you
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  Speaker 1: win that game for Baylor. Point being, we would think
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  Speaker 1: a little bit less about this on Auburn's end and
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  Speaker 1: more about the way Tennessee played had they also lost
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  Speaker 1: that game, too.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also watching Vandy.
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  Speaker 3: And even with a backup quarterback, they got beat the
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  Speaker 3: way we thought they would eventually. And it was never
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  Speaker 3: really that close, but They were respectable against Georgia, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking that's a great win for Auburn when they
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  Speaker 3: beat Vandy the week before because that Auburn team that
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  Speaker 3: I saw, again, good defensively.
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  Speaker 2: They got some dudes on defense. And they hit that
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  Speaker 2: big play early and tied the game or whatever. Like, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Offense just is not there right now for Alex Golish.
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  Speaker 3: Also on Josh Heupel, his clock management is awful, and
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: it's inexcusable. I like Josh Heupel. I think he's a
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: good leader. I think that was a good decision to
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: go away from Faison. Brandon paid off in a win.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: It also showed just how important that game was. If
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Tennessee was going to sustain any hope of being in
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: a college football playoff discussion, that he went that quickly.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: He had the quick trigger with his quarterback to go
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: to the backup because he knew they had to win
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: that game at home against his former mentee in Alex Golish.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: But that end of half clock management combined with last
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: week to end the Texas game after they get the
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: onside kick, It's atrocious. And Tennessee is top five or
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: ten in every resource given in college football, whether that
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: be fan base investment, home field atmosphere, which was terrific.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: All day on Saturday, causing a ton of false starts
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: and issues for Auburn.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: There was a true advantage there. Absolutely. Player NIL investment
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: on the roster. Yep.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: A $ 9 million coach in Josh Heupel, a $ 2- plus.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Million defensive coordinator who's the head coach of the defense.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Heupel doesn't mess with the defense much. He wanted Jim
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Knowles to run it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: He's over there looking at plays in the tablet with
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: his offense while Jim Knowles and the defense is going
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: to work out there.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Got to be better, man.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you've got two analytics nerds next
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: to you helping you with pace and decision-making quickly in
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: the moment. Tennessee's clock management has been bad for a
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: while now, and it was bad again at the end
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: of that half. That's just the one thing that I
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: watch with Heupel that he's not gotten fixed is that
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: he is going to have to be better with. And
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I know that he didn't get out of bounds and
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: it was a play design to get out of bounds.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: They have a field goal attempt if he does it,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: but you've got to be better to not put yourself
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: in that situation. They let about 17 seconds tick off
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: the clock at one point in between plays that was
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: completely needless.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: So he sticks with McIntyre this week, right? Got to.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't even put Brandon on the injury report,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you said. So I don't know. I mean, that's not,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to me, the dad can talk about, we got some
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: going on. That's all fair. He got beat up. He
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: was beat up in that game against Texas.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I think the challenge now in college football in 2026
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: that everybody's going to point to is, and I started
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: seeing this already, hey, Faison Brandon just transferred to Georgia.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: When he got pulled.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: The moment he got pulled, it's like he's looking around thinking, okay, well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: they don't believe in me here.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Where are we going to go?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: George McIntyre is the example to follow.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: The dude was disappointed. He didn't win the job.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: He's a year older than Brandon. He literally didn't sit
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: around and sulk and refuse to get any better. He
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: continued to do his job. He continued to take those paychecks.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Also, by the way, to be the backup. And when
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: he got his opportunity, full marks. He was ready. He
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: made the most of it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I believe Faison Brandon will handle it the same way.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I do think he's banged up. I think this helps
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: him to relax. Hutton, I will be completely and utterly
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: shocked if George McIntyre is not the starting quarterback at Arkansas.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: And it has nothing to do with the health of
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Faison Brandon. You now ride the hot hand. This was
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: always a possibility. You get in the year and you
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: just ride the hot hand.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Whoever's playing the best that week. This is a week-to-week league.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: We're going to do a full SEC breakdown today.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: And it will show you what we've said from before
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: this season kicked off. It is week to week. Every
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: week is a totally different story than the week before.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: We've seen these wild shifts. from one week to the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: next with all these really good teams. So you have
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: got to keep your powder dry, and you've got to
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: see who's got the hot hand each week and ride
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: that player. So now you ride McIntyre, the way he
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: played in that game, and finish that football game.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Go with him to Fayetteville. See how it goes. And
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: if he's bad, go back to Faison Brandon. You've already
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: done it once. You can do it again.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I like two final points, and we can hit to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: some other topics here. But I agree. Also, I think
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: it's the perfect opponent. going into the Bama week in Fayetteville,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: just because.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It's not a.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Pay game where you're going to win 60-0, and you
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: can actually get some things evaluated and get some things
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: on film for your backup quarterback you started the season
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: with who has played well. Now we see him rebound
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: off of it. Number two, man, what a moment that
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: weekend's going to be against Bama. If both teams come
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: into that, taking care of business this upcoming week, Tennessee
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: has a chance to.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Really jump You mentioned the week-to-week league. There is a
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: huge moment here.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And we should mark this down whenever he made the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: change at quarterback to what.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: This could lead to.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It could also lead to quarterback coming back in. But Chad,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we always look at it from the downside. If you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: look at the upside, this is a moment to write
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: down and remember for when things were saved for the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: chances of the playoff. But beyond that, a chance to
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: really jump not just into the top ten, but higher.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, they still have Arkansas left. Arkansas does
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: not look like a good football.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Team at all. Tennessee's a two-touchdown-plus favorite. That's why I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: like the matchup. And he'll be ready.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: But it's not just some game where you just walk
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: into and you know you already won the game.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: This is a good first SEC road trip because it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: also one where if you get up two scores on Arkansas,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: that place will vacate the stadium. There will be no
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: atmosphere there because they're already boycotting.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: The team at Arkansas.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: It may not be a great atmosphere to start, which
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: is great news for George McIntyre. You don't want to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: step into a snake pit. Tennessee as a program has
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: been bad in Fayetteville. I just think you're going to
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: have to see a sizable step up from Arkansas and
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: a sizable step down from Tennessee for this to be
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: a one-score game.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Tennessee's way better.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: This is where Nico couldn't take the jump. you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it was at Arkansas at that moment.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: It's where Nico ran out of bounds, the 20 yard
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: final play of the game. So thrown in, which again,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I'll go back phase on Brandon one points with me.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: And then in that final play against Texas, he threw
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the ball into the end zone, knowing that was their
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: only shot at victory.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And the clock was out.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that is some good awareness. He also didn't
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: throw it out of the back of the end zone.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: He put it right in the middle of the end
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: zone to at least give his guy a chance to,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: to win the game.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Speaking of end zones, the Titans had a chance, uh,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: with four straight plays to, uh, to get into the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: end zone. And they did not put the ball into
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward's throwing arm. They decided to run the football.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? And what do we think of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward's performance overall? It was another loss. 0-4 are
• 21:57
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• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It is clear that Brian Dable and the Titans, inside
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of the game yesterday, which was clearly the Ravens are
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: going to win that game. Zay Flowers is going off.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson could have thrown. He could have named his
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: passing yardage in the second half if he wanted to play.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he put up 222. That's what Cam Ward
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: had for the game.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Do you think he could have played had he really
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: wanted to?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Ultimately, I think this was Jesse Minter saying, we're going
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: to win this game, let's make sure Lamar's good to go,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and let's just put Huntley in and run the football,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: slow down the game, and get out of here with
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a W. There is zero threat with that Titans offense
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to be consistent.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I was talking last night, Chad.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was actually very surprised, very surprised
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that they followed up after the interception last week. Cam
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Ward on the second pass attempt has a interception yesterday.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And Ravens go and get the touchdown. Then they follow
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that up with a touchdown drive. I was shocked, quite honestly.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: They did that well, but they don't do anything consistently well.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward doesn't do anything consistent except being inconsistent. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: that's why they turn around and hand the football off
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: as much as they do whenever they're getting close to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the end zone. There is no doubt in my mind,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: last week played a factor in yesterday.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Well, and you look at Cam Ward's numbers, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: he's 20 for 31, 222, a touchdown, an interception. and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: you think, okay, it's.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Sort of pedestrian for an NFL quarterback, but it is
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: an improvement based on some of the numbers we've seen
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: from him. But you really look inside of that, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: the way the game was managed, it's 24-7 at halftime.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: We just said it. Tyler Huntley comes in. Lamar Jackson
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: could have played. It's a blowout if Lamar Jackson plays
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the second half. They don't even score a point in
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: that second half, the Ravens, and still win pretty easily.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: It was a very late touchdown, then with the onside
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: kick attempt.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Late in that game. Cam Ward made a couple throws.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: He had that one where he avoids a sack and
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: rolls to his right and throws back for a good game.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Finally throwing to Cardell Tate, too, which we liked.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: The connection with Tate was way better in this game
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: than we've seen. Tate had nine catches, 145 yards, didn't
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: get in the end zone, but much better than we've
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: seen from that. And then you look at it and
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: you say, okay, Tyler Huntley didn't score a single point
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: in the second half. His QBR was 72.9. Cam Ward's
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: QBR was 48.2. Well, why is that? He's throwing a
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: needless shovel pass ahead to Tony Pollard early in the game.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Tony Pollard maybe should have caught that.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: He should have caught that ball. I know what he's
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: thinking on that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's even looking at the ball
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: or expecting it, but it just went right off his
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: shoulder pad for an interception.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Then I'm watching Cam Ward.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: He's playing like it's a flag football game with his
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: buddies on a Sunday afternoon when he's running towards the
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: sideline and pitches it back.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And almost fumbles it late in the game. Just Will Levis-esque.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Stuff, again, from a franchise number one overall pick at quarterback,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that's simply not good enough. And Jared Stillman posted something
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: that really makes me mad with this guy. And I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: think it hits at everything that we've been talking about
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: that something feels off with this dude to be.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: A franchise quarterback.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: And it's the entitlement that we saw in something that
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I know that you posted on Twitter as well.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And I look at, so he's at the podium, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: he looks over at PR and says, got three minutes.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Three minutes. And he goes, or I'm out. I think
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: we have it. Do we have that? Okay. We should
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: have it, yeah. We may not hear it. Okay, let's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: hear it. We got three minutes, bro.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: What time?
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Which door do they come in?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: This way?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: We'll walk out.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they went out. Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So, background on that right there. The mic's on. It
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have been on in that moment. Before the presser
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: started with him, they went with a live feed.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: That's setting the background for it. The.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I've been told that he was busting chops. That's Puff.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I could hear Puff talking. Whatever that might be. He
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: walked into a room that was practically empty. There seems
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to be someone that was in the seats that was
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: talking a little bit. But the room's empty, not out
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of disrespect for Cam Ward in any way. Of course
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: they want to talk to the quarterback. He's the face
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of the franchise. But this reaction as though, like, don't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: make the guy wait. It's hard not to in these
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: visiting locker rooms. Half the time around the league where
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the media for visiting media is to go for those
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: pressers with Sala and for the quarterback. It used to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: be Henry. It's a decent type of walk. It's not
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a long walk by any means, but it's not across
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: from the locker room like it is in Nashville. They're
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in the locker room because it's the only open locker
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: room of the week. And Chad, Robert Sala speaks. And
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: then normally it takes a while. for the player to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: get a shower, get ready, whatever it might be, talk
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to PR, and then actually get behind the podium. So
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: in between those two moments, the media will go into
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the open locker room and talk to the other players
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: who actually stuck around and want to answer some questions
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: instead of getting the food line and take the shower
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: pill and not have to face the music. There were
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: consistent players in the past that have done this, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: there were consistent players in the past who stuck around
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and spoke to the media. This is the face of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the franchise here. Busting chops. I watched this and it
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: did not come across like that to me. I also
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: don't see many media members right now that were there
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: all that upset about it, but they did make it
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: within three minutes.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And I posted, Chad, that... and it may be facetious,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: maybe not.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: They're lucky it wasn't three minutes and one second, or
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: they don't talk to the quarterback, and this is a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: huge issue. The only reason we know about it is
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: because of the hot mic. Dan Moore looks like a punk.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: He looks like a total punk. He looks like a spoiled.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Brat pulling out his phone, looking at it. I'm giving
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: him three minutes, bro, or I'm walking.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I'm out of here. Give me a break, dude. You're
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: 0-4 this season.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Your QBR is worse than third-string quarterbacks would be if
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: they play in the league.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: He looks like the quarterbacks that he's lost to head-to-head.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Geno Smith, Jameis Winston, half of a game with the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: backup in Baltimore, and then Jalen Hurts.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I'm taking all the evidence here, okay? Yes.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: The Titans revoked your credential because a reporter in Jared
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Stillman dared to ask him a tough question, and he
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: got snippy about it. And then the day after that happened,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: he's revoked. I believe he probably had something to do
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: with it. I think somebody in his camp may have
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: had something to do with it. I'm not saying he's
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the sole decision maker on that, but I don't think
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: he liked that very much. I'm seeing him not have
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: his media there to ask him questions on his time
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: and And he's upset about that. I'm watching it on
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the quarterback show and at times thinking there's just something
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: missing with Cam Ward.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: And I don't get it. A dude who had.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: To earn everything before he got to the NFL, from
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: incarnate word to Washington State to Miami to the number
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: one pick to the Tennessee Titans, seems like an entitled punk.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: That's what it sounded like to me.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: You can get away with this when you're Aaron Rodgers
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: and you're questioning your head coach's play calling and saying,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I need to do a better job of telling them
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: which plays don't work when you're 43 years old and
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: you've been in the league as long as he has
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: and you're a future Hall of Famer. Cam Ward gets
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: no credit on this.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Cam.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: You are still trying to prove that you're not a
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: complete bust. Texans are coming to town next week.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: To play the Titans. Both teams are winless. Great opportunity.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I'm giving a free idea away to the Titans marketing
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: team right now. Great way to honor your past and
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: your heritage with Houston coming in by bequeathing the number
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: one jersey back to Warren Moon, its rightful owner, in
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: a ceremony on Sunday against the Texans. That's a good
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: way to honor the past and acknowledge the presence, which
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: is you gave the number one to a dude who sucks.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Bottom line, that's what it is right now with this
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Titans team.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: We can go through all the moments here where you've
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: got the deal with Stillman. He's a good quarterback, a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: good NFL quarterback. He believes that. Certainly, the numbers aren't there.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: The record now is 3-18. I don't know what it
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: was then, but Paul certainly pointed that out. He says
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: his receivers need to run flatter routes. He says he's
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: improved on his footwork. You've got the three-minute deal here.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: We can go through all those things. But ultimately, on
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the field, it has not been good enough.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Period.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: The offensive line has been. Right now, going into yesterday's game,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: they were the number two offensive line in pass blocking efficiency.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Number two in the league. This is a year after
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they gave up 55 sacks and he was sacked more
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: than any quarterback. So it's not the offensive line. They
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: have the number four overall pick as a rookie out
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of Ohio State a university that routinely puts guys in
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: who immediately ball out. And I mean, get him the football.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: We saw what happened yesterday. You have Wandel Robinson, a
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: thousand yard receiver last year with a rookie quarterback.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: And we can, we can go through all this. This
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: has to be better. And just based on results, I'm
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: not going through the whole podium thing or whatever. This
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: isn't about next year when they make a decision on
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: whether or not the guy's going to be the quarterback.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's about this month. This month. Because Marcus
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Mariota benched in week six, the year that Vrabel went
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: away from him. That was Mariota's second year. You've got
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Callahan fired week six, second year. There are certain games, everybody, everybody,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: all I heard during Will Levis' tenure was, oh, you've
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: got to give him 20 games, 20 games, you've got
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to give him a 20-game start. Well, he got that,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and then we have our result. It's time to start
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: stacking improvement, not drive to drive, not quarter to quarter,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: game to game, because we haven't seen that. I don't
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: recall a week-long consistent deal in camp at all. I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: haven't heard that, where there's bad practices, good practices, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: excuse-making happens all the time. That's old now. October is
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: about consistency and showing that you have production after development.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And if that doesn't happen, I don't care that Mitchell
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Trubisky hasn't produced anything in his career. What I do
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: care about is whether or not the locker room is
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: going to continue to believe in the messaging it's really coddling,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that's going on about what they're saying about the quarterback.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Because at some point, it's not all gas, no brake.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: It's certainly not BTA.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: It's about.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: The face of the franchise and all the marketing that's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: gone in behind number one. And he's the only one
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that gets behind the podium on a week-to-week basis that
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you hear from.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And if it's not Jeffrey Simmons.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Chad, there's no one else to point to because it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: all about Cam. And if it's not all positive about Cam,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: everybody seems to be getting butthurt about it. And it's
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: so weak, the whole positivity, if it's not all positive.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: The negative comments are not that negative. What I do
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: know is this dude could not play for the New
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: York Giants or the New York Jets. He could not
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: make it in New York based on the sensitive aspect
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of the reaction of how he's handled things here.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Period. Hutton, the coddling. Let's get back to the coddling, okay?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I believe that Titans should take a page out of
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: the Josh Heupel playbook.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: He had a very quick trigger. Faison Brandon threw his
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: first career interception, and he got pulled in the game.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Some may say that was extreme on Saturday, but it
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: won the Vols a game by making that decision.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: And I don't disagree with the fact that I am–
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I've made my– I understand why he needs to sit.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It's a different coaching situation, though, there, where Salah's in
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: his second tenure as a coach and Dable wants to
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: be head coach again. What an indictment on that situation
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: after three games, four games, to just move on from
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the quarterback that you're there to make sure becomes elite.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: The backup hasn't been. I understand why it's a little early,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: but I'm not waiting.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Until the end of the year to see this.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Separate conversation, and I'm not denying what you're saying, makes
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of sense.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Then it's a mistake to hire Robert Sala.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: If his decision-making is based on that, that's where you
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: go get a first-time head coach who's saying, no, I'm
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: going to run the team the way I want to
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: run the team. And if he doesn't work out, then
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I'm going to bench him, and I'm going to do
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: what's best for the team, and I'm going to have
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: the strength to do that. If you don't have that
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: strength and you've been denutted by the owner where you
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: can't make that decision as the head football coach, which
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I believe is the case, by the way.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I'm agreeing with you, Hutton. I think that's likely the case.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: This is not a decision that he can make, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: he's not going to be allowed to do it, and
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: he's coming from a point of weakness because he sucked
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: in his first go-around as a head coach, and right
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: now he's 0-4. and his second go-around as a head coach.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: So it's not like he can go in there, puff
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: his massive chest out. That was, you know, I'm crediting
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Robert Sala for his physique now, and say, I'm going
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: to make this move because I'm Robert Sala, and I
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: know how to coach the NFL.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make this happen. Getting back to the coddling.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Easton Freeze posted this, and I love live shows, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: we're live every day, 8 to 10 a.m. Eastern, because
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I just now read it, and it really sets me off.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: All right, Fox Sports NFL has posted the Cam Ward video,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: and it says Cam Ward was.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Ready to walk out.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: They got a better angle. They got him walking into
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: the podium. They've got him talking with Jared Puffer. They've
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: got him having an attitude about it the whole way through,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: looking at his phone. It's not just joking around. He
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: wanted to walk out, okay? Easton Free says, textbook example
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: of optics that are only as bad as the current
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: vibes are.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: The scene is ultimately meaningless.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Guy just lost another game and wants to fly home.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: But when people are currently inclined to be mad, annoyed,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: disappointed in you because of losing football, you cannot give
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: them this ammo. It's extremely obvious what kind of reaction
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: it will get under the current circumstances. So it becomes
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: an unforced error over something devoid of real substance. Here
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: would be my retort to that. And I have posted
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: this also. Maybe, just maybe, this attitude is a big
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: contributing factor to him being bad at quarterback right now
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. Because at the quarterback position, it's not
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: good enough just to have arm talent in the NFL
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: or just to be able to run or just to
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: be able to improvise. It's the total pack. If you
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: are a top 10 NFL quarterback, it is your demeanor.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: It is your accountability. It is how you're received in
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: the locker room.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: It is everything. Now, there can be certain things that
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: are so exceptional that it can blot out some other
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: negatives that you may have from a personality trait standpoint
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: or whatever. Cam Ward ain't it. When it comes to
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: that level of talent right now. He's just not.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know that he's ever going to be. But
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: this whole, oh, it just looks bad because the fans
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: are mad.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say this could also be a root
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: cause of some of his poor play. This is not
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: what you want to see from a franchise quarterback.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Period.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: You can end it there. It doesn't just have to
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: be because the team's 0-4 and they're going to read
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: too much into it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: No. This is part of the problem. It's not the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: whole problem anymore. It's part of the problem with Cam Ward. Well,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: it is busting chops, whatever.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: My initial reaction is exactly what you're saying, Chad, because
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: of the timeline here. We came in and reacted on
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: a show one day where we're saying, look, as the quarterback,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: you have to ascend to the podium. And when things
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: go well, it's about your O-line. It's about the play calling.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: It's about the receivers making play. And when things don't
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: go well, it's about you. It's no different than what
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Brian Dable did last week. Brian Dable faced the music
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: about how bad things were in New York, the whole
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: first half and how things ended for Cam. And he
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: stood there and goes, that's on me. That's on coaching.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And he goes through, he took the heat for it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: He did not say anything about poor decision-making or poor
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: execution by Cam Ward, the entire presser. That's just part
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: of the gig. That's what you do in that position.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: That's what you do as the franchise quarterback. You don't
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: point fingers and you don't sit there and mope when
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: things aren't going your way. And when I say that,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I'm saying on behalf of everybody, a tough question. Still
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: been asked him how he would assess his preseason performance.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand everything linking up and then
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden everything's just an individual moment.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: This is a trend now.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm one of those that really thought the intangibles
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: were something that would set him apart because this is
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: a guy who threw for 11,000 yards. He set the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: all-time touchdown record. He did the things that you want
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to see from a quarterback in the college level. And
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the production is just not there from a guy who
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: had it in college and doesn't have it here. I just, it's,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: It's just not anything close to staircasing this to the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: next level.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Not whenever the team is willing to just hand off
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: four straight plays when you have it first and goal.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: That's taking the ball out of your quarterback's throwing arm.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: That's taking the ball away from Carnell Tate, who's having
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: a career performance. That's taking the ball away from Wondell
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Robinson or a tight end that can potentially make a
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: big play. Meanwhile, on the other side, you've got a
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: 30-year-old offensive coordinator who Who's out scheming? Robert Sala. That's
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the difference here. Houston's coming into this upcoming week going,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: this is a get-right game for us.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: We're going to get right. Titans aren't going to think that.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: They're going to say it. They can't speak that into existence.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unacceptable. Lou in the YouTube chat, you can
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: watch us there, interact with us that way.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Please do.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Says, I believe something happened behind closed doors and Cam said,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: screw the media. The media that's there is the one
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: that's protecting the guy. Everybody that was there is like non-story,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: no big deal. He's just joshing around everybody. We got
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: in there on time and he answered questions. And it's
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: no big deal. It's everybody else who watches that and
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: sees the way the guy plays and says, there's something
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: off here. That's not what I want to see in
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: a quarterback.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: This would not have gone viral the way it did
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: had there not been a trend of things. Again, the
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: team told a media member he's no longer allowed at
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the facility after he asked a question to Cam Ward.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And this was back in August. Let's just start there.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: And that's where Ben in the YouTube chat, Hutton, brings
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: this point up and says it beautifully watching the show. Yesterday,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: he looks like a guy that would go to PR
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: and ask them to remove Jared after that exchange. But
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: our media didn't think it was important enough to ask
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: him about it after all that happened and wouldn't ask
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: him the question on it. This is, again, part of
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: the problem with what we're talking about here.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: See, I don't think it was Cam about that because...
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Kaharski wasn't asked to never come back.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Also, but he does look like a guy who would
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: do that. That's what I saw in that moment. Like,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: that's what I've seen from him consistently. If you just
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: show me that video, Ben's right.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I see that. Oh, there.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'd be like, yeah,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: seems like a guy who would get upset and go
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: to his PR guy after threatening to leave if they're
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: not there in three minutes and say, get this guy
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: out of here.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Because that's the perception. Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It's in the back of the mind.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: It's worth asking him the question, is what Ben is
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: saying and what I'm saying. Whether he did it or not,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: it's a worthy question to ask him.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: It is same song, different verse.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Isn't it?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I'll point this out too. Luckily, they got in there
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: before three minutes was up so that they could ask
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the same questions about the same type of result. Do
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you agree with me on the Houston Texans coming in
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: thinking they're getting their first win? It's a get-right game?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it is.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And the Titans are doing what with that? They should
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: be giving Warren Moat a finish pass. They should be
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: giving Warren Moat a jersey back.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they won't.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: We won't see any consistent play there. And then they
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: have the Colts right after. Plenty to get to on
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Hutton and Withrow. Presented by Hard Rock Bet.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Chad. Help me with what do we have on the
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: rundown right here?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: We've got the end of Shane Beamer. Have we seen
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: it on Saturday night?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: My number three on the dry erase board erased over here.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: My little pocket erase board.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: You've got to keep your powder dry, Hutton. You've got
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: to keep your dry erase board dry. That hand rubs
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: it off, and it's not going to be able to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: be seen.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Fair enough.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: You know what? Just don't ask me about it. I'm
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: very sensitive about this.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Three minutes. Hutton's got three minutes, and he's out of here.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Three minutes if everybody's not ready. He's out. We're back
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: in less than three minutes.