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#626 - Mega Ran Talks Grammy-Nominated Children’s Album, Nerd Core , Wrestling & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Bootleg CAV Show. We got a special guest in here,
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  Speaker 2: my guy the now Grammy nominated Hey, Mega.
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  Speaker 1: Ran, you gotta say the whole thing now, it's like
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  Speaker 1: a trib call quest. You gotta say Grammy nominated artists,
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  Speaker 1: Mega Ran.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: This has been a long time coming, man, We've been
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  Speaker 1: talking about getting this going. Thank you for making it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, so you're like for people who do
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  Speaker 2: oh no, man, you have had a pretty crazy, like
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  Speaker 2: you're og at this point, you've had a pretty crazy
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  Speaker 2: independent hip hop career. I was trying to explain kind
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  Speaker 2: of like your path to my boy Cook like underground rapper,
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  Speaker 2: and then you kind of were you like the first
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  Speaker 2: guy to do the kickstarter thing in hip hop. You
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  Speaker 2: were one of them, one.
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  Speaker 1: Of the first, one of the first. Yeah, kickstarters kind
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  Speaker 1: of like what people are doing with even now, where
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  Speaker 1: it's like, yo, get the people to fund your projects,
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  Speaker 1: and so I think that in band camp and Patreon,
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  Speaker 1: like we were doing that a decade ago, where you know,
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  Speaker 1: like getting the people involved is the way kind of
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  Speaker 1: to build something well.
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  Speaker 2: And then like, I feel like you were so good
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  Speaker 2: at like kind of carving out like this niche of
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's game gaming bars, video game rap,
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  Speaker 2: nerd core, nerd core is, no, that's what they call it.
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  Speaker 1: I went and did some I was just doing what
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  Speaker 1: I do and then people were like, that sounds like
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  Speaker 1: nerd core, and I was like, what the heck is that,
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, Oh, it's guys who talk about gaming
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  Speaker 1: talk about programming. Talk about comic books whatever. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I mean, Sean Price has been talking about comics,
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  Speaker 1: you know the whole time I listened to them, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Or Pete Rock and all these people,
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  Speaker 1: and so it didn't seem like it was stretching much.
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  Speaker 1: It was like I'm already doing this and so but
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  Speaker 1: when you add an extra bit of it onto it,
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  Speaker 1: like they say, it's it's a it's a sub genre.
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  Speaker 1: You have to self identify to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: You like, I'm nerdcore because Chops Gambino had a song
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  Speaker 1: where he said like f nerdcore and people were like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: we made it, Yo, we made it.
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  Speaker 2: He acknowledged it.
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  Speaker 1: He acknowledged acknowledged me, you know what I mean. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was basically just like geeks who rap, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Or like if somebody said, you know how,
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  Speaker 1: rappers are usually the coolest guy, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: You get a lot of rappers here. They probably come
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  Speaker 1: in ten deep, big chains, like really, you know, they're left.
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  Speaker 1: There is a lot of that, and so the guy
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  Speaker 1: who does not look like the rapper, that's usually the
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  Speaker 1: nerd core guy. You're like, yo, are you the team account, like,
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  Speaker 1: are you the the I T guy? You know?
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, nah, I do some raps.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, basically the way a lot of rappers like
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  Speaker 1: maybe idolize and personify drug dealers in situations and real
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  Speaker 1: gangsters throughout their music. It's Goku, it's Megatron, it's you know, Deadpool,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, taking those characters in the same way
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  Speaker 1: and being like what if they could spit?
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  Speaker 2: You know, does the wrestling aspect like lead in to
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  Speaker 2: the to the nerd core.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all hand in hand like we see
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  Speaker 1: it today. Like I say, wrestling is the best comic
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  Speaker 1: book around. It's like a live action comic book. So
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  Speaker 1: it's basically cutting promos Rick Flair, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what rap is, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I always say that Rick fair promos are hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where like it to me fits hand in hand.
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  Speaker 1: You got these larger than life figures their real life
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  Speaker 1: comic book dudes, and it's like what if they could rhyme?
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  Speaker 1: Shouted John Cena and he rhyme too.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, I feel like him
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  Speaker 2: taking that route helped him probably with his mic work. Immenseally.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure and like he was doing that, he
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  Speaker 1: was really in it. I remember talking to Esoteric about
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  Speaker 1: that shout esotericz our face and he was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: he would be at every cipher with us, like going
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  Speaker 1: to every show in Boston.
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  Speaker 2: And like Jake One produced his theme song. I guess
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  Speaker 2: people realize like Bumpy Knuckles was all over his very
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  Speaker 2: hip hop one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I ran in the scena a few times, but
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  Speaker 1: most most fun and time was I was backstage. I
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  Speaker 1: was part of the rat Battle. It still is a
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  Speaker 1: New Day Battle. And and while they was hosting and
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  Speaker 1: and I'm talking to the New Day kind of showing
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  Speaker 1: them a little bit of how to present their bars,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, give that pause for the people here,
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  Speaker 1: do this, you know, and Sena comes in the room,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then uh, and he's like, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to say, you know, congratulations guys. You guys have
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  Speaker 1: been doing great. You're holding it down since I haven't
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  Speaker 1: been here, and uh, And I was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: seen it. I thought you were coming to tell us
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  Speaker 1: you were like about to jump in the rap battle,
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  Speaker 1: like you'd be like, hold up, you'll barres done. And
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  Speaker 1: he was like, no, no, Rap is a young man's game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm done with that and uh and he was he
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  Speaker 1: was serious. He never rapped again, so like I was
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  Speaker 1: really like wow. But then I thought about it, like
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  Speaker 1: seeen as my age, Like I'm aging myself now, but
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  Speaker 1: seene as my age. I was like, You're never too
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  Speaker 1: old for this, like and I feel like we got
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  Speaker 1: to get out of that mentality that Rap is a
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  Speaker 1: young man's game.
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  Speaker 2: Scene it has like fully it's funny because like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know when he does his he did his his
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  Speaker 2: last match. My kids started, My twelve year old watch
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  Speaker 2: that and he's not interesting. But now he was like
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  Speaker 2: he saw this whole the final Scena match, and he
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  Speaker 2: was like just started going on a YouTube rabbit hole,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, damn seen a really like shed
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  Speaker 2: like every little bit of his like Boston accent and
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  Speaker 2: all that shits gone.
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  Speaker 1: That's character growth and development.
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  Speaker 2: And like he's just he's like a fucking superstar now,
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  Speaker 2: like he's got to do movie junkets and.
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  Speaker 1: He's President Obama now like with the with theddiction, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like he's so he's that smooth,
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  Speaker 1: he's so political with his answers, like like he's gotten. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like it's character development like over the years and being
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  Speaker 1: able to switch, you know what I mean. We call
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  Speaker 1: it code switching, you know what I'm saying, And that
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe that's a part of it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for him as well. But like Sena was deeply entrenched
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  Speaker 1: in hip hop, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I always wonder when you can you've put out so
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  Speaker 2: much music where you guys have like you've sampled video
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  Speaker 2: game music, and have you ever ran into any issues
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  Speaker 2: with like them, like sending you season desists or anything
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  Speaker 2: for like artwork or anything.
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  Speaker 1: No. I thought it was gonna happen this back into
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  Speaker 1: MySpace days by the way, I was, yo, yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's not bring that energy. Don't you put that evil
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  Speaker 1: on me, Ricky Bobby. But honestly, I got to a
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  Speaker 1: point now where I'm so I guess known in that
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  Speaker 1: community where like I know these developers, I know that
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  Speaker 1: these publishers, and they know me as the video game guy.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of them look at it as an honor,
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  Speaker 1: right And with Capcom. When I started sampling Mega Man
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  Speaker 1: and named myself Mega Ran, it was random. Before that.
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  Speaker 1: I got a message on MySpace by Capcom and they
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  Speaker 1: were like, oh, this is this is cool. You sampling
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  Speaker 1: our stuff and I was like, yeah, it's because I
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  Speaker 1: love y'all so much, you know. And the guy was like,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry, this isn't a season desist, like we got
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  Speaker 1: your back, and I was like, yo, for real and
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  Speaker 1: they were like, however, Japan though different stories, different different people,
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  Speaker 1: we don't run anything over there, so maybe don't go
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  Speaker 1: to Japan yelling this out that you you know, but
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  Speaker 1: but here we got you. So they started inviting me
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  Speaker 1: to comic cons. I was coming out performing. Actually the
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  Speaker 1: first rapper to perform on a comic con floor at
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  Speaker 1: any sort of a comic con. It was at San
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  Speaker 1: Diego in two thousand and seven.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that is the comic con.
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  Speaker 1: And then the next year they had a couple of rappers.
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  Speaker 1: You might know they have method Man in red Man.
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  Speaker 1: You might know that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they just did what was in New York.
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  Speaker 2: They had the New York comic They did Masiel. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that shit was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Nerdcore bro Like, we're seeing these things coming together with
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  Speaker 1: nerdcore ghosts, Tony Starks, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's all bleeding it's bleeding now. You can't tell the difference.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to I think it was Denzel Curry, who
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  Speaker 1: does Mad Stone Cold and wrestling references, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: it's there, like it's it's all bleeding together, like it's
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  Speaker 1: just hip hop. That's really what it is. Like you
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  Speaker 1: can't you can't hold it down and confine it to
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  Speaker 1: even a genre at this I.
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  Speaker 2: Think too, it's like, you know, at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, we have such a complex world where there's
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  Speaker 2: so many people's hobbies and interests, but not everyone's into
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  Speaker 2: like you know, listening and the dope dealing and shoot
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  Speaker 2: them up rap music at all times. It's like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: for people who are into wrestling and you know, they
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  Speaker 2: want to scratch that itch or whatever. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: hip hop is like anything else, man, Like there should
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  Speaker 2: be some part of the genre to serve everybody absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: And I used to be one of those hip hop purists,
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  Speaker 1: you know, growing up in Philly where it was like
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  Speaker 1: East Coast rapp er die, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: where it was like that ain't hip hop, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like we would get upset by certain things happening in
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  Speaker 1: hip hop and like it's the latest point of view
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  Speaker 1: where it.
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  Speaker 2: Was like I used to be the same way, dude,
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  Speaker 2: and then I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Hip hop grow Yeah, no for sure, like like that
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  Speaker 1: ain't real rap. That ain't Oh god, I just like
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  Speaker 1: cringe thinking about those thoughts. It's a very dinosaur kind
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  Speaker 1: of way to look at it, like that ain't might
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  Speaker 1: hip hop, right, you know? And now it happens in
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  Speaker 1: you know, with the internet, especially like the gatekeeping of
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  Speaker 1: stuff being like this is ours, you can't do this,
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  Speaker 1: call it something else, and it's like you can call
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  Speaker 1: it hip hop, like sound like our parents that we
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  Speaker 1: literally sound like our parents. What's that beat? Bobby bobob?
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  Speaker 1: We can't even I don't even know what they're saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And it's like, let these kids be kids.
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  Speaker 2: Man, what were you doing when you find out that
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  Speaker 2: you're nominated for a Grammy? Was it because I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: were you guys watching the nominations or man?
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  Speaker 1: I was late to it, Like I'm late to everything.
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  Speaker 1: We're just goofs. Me and Felix shot out the Feelix
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  Speaker 1: we were. I had a little breakfast at the house.
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  Speaker 1: It was my tenth anniversary, so we're celebrating our anniversary.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same day, and we had people over for
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  Speaker 1: breakfast and we're like, let's put on the stream, and
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  Speaker 1: we try to find the stream and we put it
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube and then we're at the end and it
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  Speaker 1: says thank you for watching the Grammy stream. And I'm like, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: let's find it. And then I get a texting and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, not now, I'm trying to find this Grammy stream.
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  Speaker 1: My phone starts blowing up and I'm like, no, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to find this stream. I'm not gonna look at this.
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  Speaker 1: So then my boy Cisco was like, I found Variety
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  Speaker 1: dot com. We got the list, everything's here, and we
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  Speaker 1: strolled all the way down the list and I see
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  Speaker 1: Magarin Buddy's Magic Tree House and I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: but I still don't believe this, Like I mean, let me,
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  Speaker 1: let's find the stream. And we go back and we
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  Speaker 1: run at the beginning of to stream and we watch
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  Speaker 1: it and I just burst out crying like I've I've
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  Speaker 1: probably never cried about like a musical moment, right, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But this was hard work and
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  Speaker 1: also like the you know, I'm big on dates and
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  Speaker 1: anniversaries like, so it was the anniversary of my album.
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  Speaker 1: It was the anniversary of my marriage, and then the
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  Speaker 1: Grammys are happening on the anniversary of my first release
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  Speaker 1: of twenty years since almost to that. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: the numerology starts lining up, and I'm just like, dang,
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  Speaker 1: like this is like divine stuff, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: And it's bigger than me. It's bigger than hip hop,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And so when I think about that, it
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  Speaker 1: just it just brought emotions. Man, I'm just like crying
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of my floor. My kid is dancing
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  Speaker 1: around like y'all shut up, it's too loud, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just amazing. But I found out late
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  Speaker 1: I was the last person of my circuad when.
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  Speaker 2: You like, because I always wonder, like, do you like
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  Speaker 2: when you want to get nominated, you it has to
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  Speaker 2: be like a conscious effort because you kind of have
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: to submit to.
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  Speaker 1: Submit, and that's where like people get it wrong. So
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: they try to act like they don't care about Grammys.
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  Speaker 2: No, you have to like, but you have to add
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: the week The Weekend no longer submits his music for
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  Speaker 2: the Grammys. So if every every year it was like
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: the Weekend got snubbed. It's like, well he purposely is.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to get it fucked the Grammy.
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  Speaker 1: But they made up.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're good, did they he performed last year? They
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who his album to get nominated in
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  Speaker 2: because I was like, one of the best fucking albums
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  Speaker 2: of the years.
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  Speaker 1: It's timing to like, so it might be it might
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: be Ellegit is a great album. I hear the big
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  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson influence for sure, But maybe it's eligible for
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  Speaker 1: next year because there's a date.
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  Speaker 2: There's a cutoff September to September. I forget win in
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  Speaker 2: September something like.
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  Speaker 1: That, so it could have been in the cutoff time
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  Speaker 1: where it could be eligible for next year. I think
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: about that every time people put out albums. Now I'm like, oh,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: it's a great album, but we're not gonna be able
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: to talk about it until next year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Even like when gn X came out, I was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 2: by the time this gets nominated for Grammy, it's gonna
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: be twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: So it'll be old, you know to some people. I
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: mean people still bumping and I'm sure, but yeah, GNX
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  Speaker 1: came out in December, so it's like, yeah, you're gonna
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: wait a while before you get to celebrate it.
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  Speaker 2: So you I submitted as a team officially.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we submitted. I submitted my last two children's albums.
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  Speaker 1: I've submitted before that too. I've been a member since
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  Speaker 1: like twenty fifteen, and but I always felt like, I'll submit,
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, and then you know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: cost anything to submit once you remember, So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna submit, We'll see what happens. Of course, you
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  Speaker 1: do a little bit of politic and you make sure
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  Speaker 1: you talk to some people. You get advice from winners,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so that's what let me know we're
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  Speaker 1: on the right path. Where like winners and nominees were
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  Speaker 1: hitting me like this is some of the best music
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  Speaker 1: I've heard this year, Like for sure, make sure you submit,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I will, you know, and we
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  Speaker 1: got it, man, Like it's it's just a testament to
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: hard work. But you have to submit, Like it's like
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: the lottery. You can't be mad that you didn't win
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: the lottery when you didn't buy a ticket.
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  Speaker 2: What what initially like kind of obviously having your son,
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: but what was kind of the initial spark to be like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do a whole children's album and like
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  Speaker 2: keep doing them like you ever heard that so on
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  Speaker 2: Baby Shark, Yeah, I mean, fuck I have.
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  Speaker 1: That's what made me want to them write better than this,
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  Speaker 1: said we have to we cannot listen to this for
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  Speaker 1: the nine hundredth time. We gotta do something else. And
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: so we would find other songs, and for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: they were equally annoying and uh, and that's just the
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: big stuff that gets a lot of attention, so it's
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  Speaker 1: not all. And that's what I started learning about what
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: they call kindi, which is kid music by indies, and
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: so you got to dig a little deeper. It's like
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: underground rap. And so I started finding independent artists who
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: are making really dope kids music. And I was like, oh,
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: you can be dope and do this. Like I thought
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: you just had to be like one, two, three, four,
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: you know, But realizing like you can be dope and
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: be fun, I was like, well, let me try it.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: So I started writing songs. I wrote a song basically
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: based on what I was dealing with with my toddler.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: So he liked fruit. So I was like, let's make
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: a song about fruit and let's see if I can
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: make it hip hop. Like I love Biggie, give me
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: the loot. I was like, let me give me the fruit.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: And so we made a song about hip hop. It
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: was during the fiftyth anniversary of hip hop where we're like,
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: all right, I want to teach kids the story of rapping.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: So we decided to make a song where I go
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: boom boom, boom bat, you know what I mean, and
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: then tell the entire story of how hip hop was born.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: So it was just basically making the songs I would make,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: but like so that my kid could understand it, you
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And they call it dumbing it down,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it was that. It's more for me.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: It's like smiling a little more, you know what I mean.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: It's like, instead of me trying to be so hard,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: it's like, I'm gonna smile a lot more and I'm
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: gonna make songs that make me smile or that will
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: make somebody around me smile, and that's really it. And
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: it was hard. Man. I sat with Felix and I
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't think we can I don't think
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: I can do that. I remember sitting there with a
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: blank page.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Like successions.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Felix produced and engineered the entire record with me, and
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: so we were we were sitting. Yeah, he sat through
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: this entire process and like he already knows, Like he's like,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: you can write, and he wrote songs about freaking Transformers
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: the movie, like you can do this, and I would
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: still be like, I don't know, man, you know and uh?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: And I think I think Will Smith said that, like, yo,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: everything you really want is on the other side of
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: your fear. And I'm like, Yo, if you can get
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: over that fear, and if you feel scared about something,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: it's probably you going the right way. You know what
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I mean. When the last time you got scared?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Oh fuck, I don't know, man, He's like, I ain't
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: never scared. I mean no, I'm sure.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I just like an interview, like somebody came through you.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: It's like, shit, what am I gonna say? You know me?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Or something like that.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I don't I think the last interview I was like
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: pretty nervous for was was Snoop because that's the interview
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I've always that's huge interview, so huge. Yeah, So I
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: was like I never prepared too hard for an interview.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: And I was like, there's just so much on ask
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I don't want forget nothing, like this might be the
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: only time I interviewed.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get that. So yeah, like when you
• 15:43
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• 15:45
  Speaker 1: said that too. He's like, I was nervous before every match,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: and if you not, it's time to quit, you know
• 15:49
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• 15:51
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• 15:54
  Speaker 1: You know, if I don't have to go take a
• 15:56
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• 16:00
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• 16:02
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• 16:05
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• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say a lot of people don't know
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you've done some theme songs too on the wrestling side. Yes, Yes,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: the New Day, New Day, Thank God.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: For the New Day. I did the New Day's New
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: theme with my man say Zy shout out to them. Yeah, man,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: they've always looked out man. What has been my dude
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: for decade plus?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: A fellow game And also, like I would say, like
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: when it comes to he's like the first guy to
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: really embrace the gaming shit on ye wrestlers.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: So I feel like they said, like all the guys
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: used to just play cards backstage, and then he would
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: bring a game system and then those guys are looking at.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Them like y'all playing them dumb video games.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: And then they be like me, let me get a turn,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: let me let me get on that mat, and let
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: me get them sticks, you know. And so he started
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: bringing games to the round and he was like, Yo,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: these are hilarious moments. So he started a YouTube page
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: up Up Down Down, which is really dope. And yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: like had huge success with that, and it was a
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: time where, like you said, it was like they weren't
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: doing that right, like they didn't know what to do
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: with that, where they're just like, wait, what is this?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: This is a whole new world like YouTube channels now
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: everybody has a twitch, everybody's doing their thing, and Woods
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: was the first man, Like I think, I mean, his
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: career has already been amazing, but I think post WWB,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like Woods is going to do something that's going to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: blow everybody's minds, like because he's just got a mind
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: that's different, Like he'll show me pages like here's my
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: here's my creative suggestions for this year, you know what
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm just like yo, like he's constantly thinking.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Was it were you nervous at all? Knowing you're kind
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: of like crafting the heel song for these guys, Yes.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Because I'm the good guy. I'm the siding like.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Some of the biggest babyfaces ever if you think about
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: like their main run.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That's true, and but you know, it's it's more fun
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: being a heel. And I remember them saying that, like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it's really fun and so for me to have to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: dig into a.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Bad guy bag and scowl a little bit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not smiling when I do these these verses, you know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: But but Kofe and Woods were like we wanted like
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a back and forth, like a Jada Kiss styles kind
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: of thing, where you say something, the other one says something.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: It's almost like we're talking to ourselves, like we're hyping
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: each other up, like he my brother, I'm you know.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: So that was the vibe they wanted. So they let
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: me hear some songs for samples and examples and and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of them was hard songs. And I was like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: what y'all know about this? They played me the game
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Ali Bum and I was like, what y'all know about this?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You know? Like they they were like, this is the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: kind of energy we want, and I was like I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: can do it, you know. So yeah, I think it
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: was really fun. But it was weird because now it's like,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to cheer y'all, I'm
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to be happy that my music's playing, or I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: telling y'all to boo. I don't know. But what it
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: was like always boo, we're bad guys.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Boos what is the process, Like, you submit it more
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: than once do they give you like heyo, change this,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: hey do this? Because yeah, they give you some notes.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I remember while they saying when he did the Big
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: E theme, it was like that where they kind of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: have a stencil when they have an outline like all right,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: this is kind of where we need to hook the hit.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: This is where we want the boom to bath, you know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: So they have a formula to these tracks and you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: can tell like you know what I mean, you get
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds of the song and then and then it drops,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's the moment you come
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: out the curtain or whatever. So they give you the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: stensul kind of and you just kind of filling in
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the blank s. You're like, all right, you say this, here,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: give us a pause with this breathe. You know. So,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: but I give them all the sessions I'll recorded with Felix,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, here's the stems, y'all take.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Out what you need. Yeah, yeah, I got a crazy
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: engineer at WW.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I like the over deliver, you know what I mean.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: But they, man, they work so fast with that stuff. Man.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I remember even with the king Woods theme, they were
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in Saudi when he won of the Ring and somebody
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: emailed me was like, hey, Xavier wants you to do
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: his theme and I was like what theme. It's like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: he's King of the Ring theme and at that time
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: he wasn't decided it yet and I was like all right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and it's like we went this on TV by Friday
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: and I was like, it's Tuesday. It's like okay, so
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: got to work and then they mixed it and made
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it sound good. I had it on TV by Friday,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: so like they're they're they're on it, man, they're on it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So shout out to their squad is it?
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Like do you is it? I always like if you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the artist on the other side of that, because it
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: always feels like ww kind of typically is always used
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: like in house people.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's rare. I think it has to come from
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the talent being like, yo, use my guy.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Do you like essentially you're just like you give up
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: rights to the song, you get publishing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, we get to get some inside baseball. Yes, you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: become a work for hire in this situation, which is
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you know kind of typically.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: You get publishing. You know, no, no pub.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: No, man. The biggest things I've ever done in my
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: life probably have no pub attached, which is crazy.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: That she gets played on TV every one. I mean
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: maybe not every week, but most weeks. Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Stuff I've done with aw I get pub on,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but nah, not with the E.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I guess like we don't feel like now, yeah, we
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: don't want to write these tiny Like I did a
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: record for kofe Mania that was supposed to be used
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: and it didn't wind up getting used with me while.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: A akon like this crazy record and uh and they
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: were like nah. And now I'm like, well, can I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: have the song because I want to put it out?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Like nah, there's a check. It's ours now, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: so if we want to use this later in the vault, yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Like it's like I get it because they don't. Who
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: wants to write twenty five checks every I don't know
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: whatever it would take to do that to balance you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it would be nice. I will say that, but but
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I knew that going in, so it's not like, oh,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: they robbed me. It's like, yo, you the trade off
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: is thousands of people are going to hear your song
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: every week, you know what I'm saying, and they know
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it's you and hopefully they know it's you. And man,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: people send me videos from like Mania from them coming
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: out at that huge entrance with my voice coming through
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that through allegiance, Like that was crazy to me. So yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like the trade off in a lot of cases is
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: worth it. Like they say, the super Bowl is an
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: unpaid gig, you know what I'm saying, And then you
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: got to hire your production crew. So it's a.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Nugget the super Bowl. It's literally like we're giving you
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a look.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, yo, that is the look. People say exposure.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Don't pay some exposure because the super Bowl, super Bowl
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: pace You also.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Somehow fell into playing the fake drums at the WrestleMania
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: one year.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: That was in Philly. Shout out to my uh, this
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: is the guy collaborated with WRESMANI forty forty forty. May
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know what forty we're gonna be looking back because we.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Were there, we were together, fucking freezing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I know it was cold, but we're gonna look back
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: as that was one of the last great moments of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: wrestling because the bloodline saga. You know what I'm saying,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I think that I mean, like I for I think
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that's top three Mania.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Ever, yeah, yeah, they super delivered with everything, and that
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: almost never happens. So the morning of night Too, I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: get a text from a guy named Frank who played
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: ironically on my very first album, which is about to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: be twenty years old. The call he played sax on
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that album and he's like, oh, I know you like wrestling,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: so you're gonna like this. I'm actually at the stadium
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and I was like, what are you doing at the stadium.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, man, I teach music in Philly and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: they wanted some kids to come out and like fake
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: drum and fake composed for Roman reigns entrance. And I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was like you what and he's like sounds cool, huh.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, Like are you just flexing
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: on me? And he's like no, actually, like if you
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: want to come in chaperon, like I'd love to have
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you here like and I was like okay. He's like,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: we're all black and meet us at the stadium and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, say less, And so I have to get
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: everybody packed up and we ride over there and he's like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: there's a school bus waiting to pick up all the kids.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: You could ride the school bus. And I was like
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I get there, the school bus is riding off, and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, I missed the school bus and I'm
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in an uber and I'm like follow that bus. So
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: did we ride? Follow the bus? Getting to the stadium.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of hurry up and wait. We're sitting
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: in the tent. It was cold, like you said, one
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: was freezing so cool, and I watched the whole show
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like the way the wrestlers do, where you like they
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: watching on them the monitor and you're standing there like
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: almost no seats. So it kind of sucked because I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: didn't get to sit into my seat and enjoy the show.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: But they basically were like, pretend to play drums, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they were like, actually, we have a couple more shoulder harnesses,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: like do you want to just pretend to play? And
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, hell yeah, I dude, like what like
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a financial field, I'm an Eagles fan, Like, yes, I
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: want to do this. And so me and Teak Teeka
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was with me shot the teak and we were like
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: let's go. And so we get up there and we're
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: just playing and they were like, you know, keep it easy,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: no pictures and whatever. But luckily the drummer that was
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: sitting on the drum kit had the he had the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: meta glasses. He was like heyo, got like some cool
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: pictures of us, and it was doe like before I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: see the use of that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: List like that's before those things were like it was
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: hot out here for those because now I feel like
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: people are looking like.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Now they're looking for it. They have to light up
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: now to take the picture.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Came up to me and start dapping me up and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: talk to me, and he's feeling me though. I said, bro,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you fucking right now.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't like that, dude. I don't like that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: If you got to let people know, they should tell
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you like yo, you gotta let people know, like the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know that the glasses should be like you
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: are recording every few seconds, I don't know are you raising?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, dream come true. Man got to play some
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: drums on the stage with the with the bloodline.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: What's your top three video games of all time?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I gotta pick different eras then, but Mega Man of course,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Mega man X is probably the best one. Superintendo. Uh,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I heard some I heard some love. Mega Man X
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: is fire and today it's still super dope and it's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: pretty much the blueprint for a lot of like side
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: scrolling type games.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Fronal Fancy seven. Uh, it's my second and.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: A third man. This is hard bro. When I think
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: greatest ever, I think like a game that if I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: see it, I got to pick up the controller and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: play it. And that's probably Street Frighter two, you know
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like Street Frighter two, if I see
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it down, if I see it in the arcade, I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: gotta PLoP a quarter in and give you this.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Work with with Ken, you know what I mean, Like,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I just have to do it, never ry you. Huh. Nah,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: they got the same moves. Nah, it ain't the same.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Ken got the berserker rage even going crazy.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Ryu's more like laid back feel like, yeah, I was
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: just like Ken look gay when I was a kid.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Like he's got that long hair, he can't fight, And
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: then I do.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I respect right you? And his story is the best
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: one at this ending because he wins the trophy and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, here's the ceremony and they're all up
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: there and they're like, where is you? And they turn
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and he's gone, and then he's walking away and then
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and they say, for you is walking to the next challenge.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: That's me.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I never stop to celebrate anything. It's like, nah, I'm
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: on to the next one. I love that that low
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Wayne Dock when remember I don't know if you remember
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: they the Carter maybe Carter three, when that blew up
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and it was a little doc and they were coming
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: onto the bus to tell them that they went platinum
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: in a week or whatever, like yo, yo, we just
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: went platinum. And he had headphones on. He's recording somebody
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: doing a feature verse.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: He's like, I was to work it talk about.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: On the next, on to the next, Like you had
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to head down and work in this business. Like I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: think Kevin Hart said that too, like nobody cares keep working.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And I keep that in the back of my mind
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: where it's like so Grammy nominated and keep going. Are
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you making six figures a show like Beyonce, Well, then.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Keep going making seven figures.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Well, but yeah, let's always room to grow. And I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: think that never settled. Is the ryu way.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like, because it feels like with kind
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: of like how popular and mainstream like collecting and like
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Pokemon's God, and you know it's there's so many people
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: in the space now if you are crowded. If you
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: go to comic con now, it's like it's like going
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: to like complex, like.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Going to a rap show. It's just I think it's dope.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: But I want the record to state I was doing
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that before it was cool, you know what I mean.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I was getting laughed at, you know what I mean
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: when I went to comic cons. I kind of I've
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: written so many bars about that, just being like it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: kind of funny, but I don't look at it and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: like a gatekeeper way like back in my day.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: But like I think it's dope, Like wrestling, Like everyone's wrestling.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It's cool now one loves wrestling all.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Of a sudden, Like I wear wrestling shirts. I used
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to like the part of the fun was like you
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna know what this is, and now they're like,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I love that, you know, and it starts
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: a conversation. Every time I wear wrestling shirt. I think
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it's dope. Man, Like I think of it as the kids,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: because I don't know about you. I was a kid
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: who got teased for all this stuff, you know, maybe
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: not wrestling so much, but like for liking video games,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: for reading comic books, like Yo in Philly, in the eighties,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you could get beat up for liking this stuff, like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that's gay, Let's beat them up, you know what I mean.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And like it was to the point where a video
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: game magazines, I would put the sports illustrated on the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: front of it and cover it up when I was
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: in class, like free reading time, and I'm just reading
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: my sports, you know, but I was really reading Game
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Pro and Nintendo Power. Like, so I understand that it
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: was hard for kids growing up where you had to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: be closet nerds, right, And now, man, kids are skateboarding,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: they're doing everything where they would be like, man, that's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that white people's stuff, no offense. Everybody would be like, man,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that's weak while you doing that? Yeah, anime all like
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: these kids aren't free to be weird, which I think
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: is amazing, you know what I'm saying. And that's where
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: as much as I want to be like, yeah, you ain't,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you ain't. You didn't struggle for this like I did,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: But you don't. You shouldn't have to, like we struggle
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: so that these kids today can be exactly who they are. Man,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And I think it's I think it's dope.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: If you had to predict the two main events go
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: under your head for Mania Night one? Night two? Whose
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: main event Mania?
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I think they running back Cody and Roman. I think
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: we run it back for three. Maybe you get Rockets
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: special against referee. I don't know. Maybe rock might show
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: up now that Smashing Machine didn't didn't really kill.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I heard that. Well I heard Saudi Arabia's
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: like offered him the most for any wrestling event that
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: anyone's ever gotten. For next year.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Next year, I was about to say, Saudi Mania is
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be different. I think of the Rocks, it's going
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to be all the big names, but probably bring Triple
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: HF for that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: But they like one hundred million dollars.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'll be something crazy. I would have said
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: AJ's retirement could have main event at Night one.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's gonna happen?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know. So world title, I guess
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: maybe main events night But I think Cody and Roman
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: a main event without the belt. I think that is
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: just such a big moment.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like it's it's it's the main event,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: but it's you know.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Co Maine, big main events. They'll do something like that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I think as far as the World I don't think
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the world title is yet ready to be a main
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: event title.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: No, But.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: If I had to pick the two main events, I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: think Gunter is just gonna be kind of a maybe
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Gunter Brock.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the you know, the attraction guy.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Well, he's gotta be the guy like I mean, look,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: if he retires Aj, he kind of has to be
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the guy to like, like.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: He's gotta retire everybody. Like, I think it's Brock one
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: of them years, It's Randy one of them years.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Probably probably Jericho, maybe Jericho.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be the guy to send everybody
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: to the old folks home, which I'm here.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: But you know what, though, that tells you how fucking
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: stupid they were to have Jay tap him out or
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: him tap out to Jay, because now every time the
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: fucking crowds screaming, you tapped out.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is your number one badass, bad guy.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: But he tapped out to a dude who's in a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: tag team division, now, you know, so that was a mistake.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: That was a mistake, yeh was him winning a rumble? Mistake? Though? Jay?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I think so?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: You think so? I mean because they didn't do more.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It was a shock, like you know what, we'd be
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: wanting surprises and we finally got one.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I think with the sena whole entire run, they just
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: needed to play it, like play the hits, like yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: it's like it's John Cena in your life.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Play the dude.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Just play the hits, win the rumble, make everything, and
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: any of the in between matches make him super nostalgic
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: tier tier jerkers, you know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, they kind of fumbled that, And then I.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Just feel like too with like Jay, like he has
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to be pretty gassed by the time it gets to
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the ring every time because that fucking entrance to work
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: out it is real Cardio in.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: The stairs like it's it's card It's it is, like
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I'll give him a little credit on that, Like he
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: does that for the people, Like he could be like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: let's just flip it and I'll just come down to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: the no, But he does that for the people. I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: just and then the same people will be like you guessed.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I just wonder how long, like because I just saw
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: them do it with him and Jimmy, and it was
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: like it didn't feel like it hits as as it
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: feels like I don't know how you take that lightning
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in a bottle with a wrestler who probably is like
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: an icy champ. Yeah you know, yeah, and keep because
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: he was selling so much merch.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: It's the merch man, like he's so popular. Like people all.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Complain, but when you're at the show, the kids love.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: They run it back. They want the interest over and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: over again, like so you gotta but that could be
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I see, like you don't have to put them to
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the top of the card to do that, and you'll
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: still sell merch.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, look at how prominent like
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Domin is right now. Yeah, you know. And it's like,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that the trip has been dope
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the way that they're kind of like.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate the only WW guys really
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: get over over.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: There, but liked Americanos fucking lit.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Like they all get over it and now they're booing
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: their own guys freaking Vikingo had to turn like it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: it's kind of.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: It feel like the most over guy where there's miss Iguana.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Mister Iguana is a vibe.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: They should have done more with Finn when he did
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that demon puppet.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that shit was dope. I bought it
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: and then they never I'm glad that they're Like Finn
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: needs I mean I saw like it was ten years
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: ago that he wanted to title and I was like, damn,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Finn needs it needs a run, bro, Finn was the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: number Like when my kid was like a little kid
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: back then for his birthday, he fucking painted his face
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: like Finn Balor and like.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: That was so over, dude, and he still is.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Like people still love well they brought that honestly then
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: bringing back that fucking song.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I hope it stays so too. I feel like he
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: needs to go through some things like looks like Cody
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: did where they made a break up, the fucking he
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: kicked out the squad like that needs the.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Needs to Like they've teased so many breakups.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: But they've been there the longest faction but he's had
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: in a long time.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: And like look very successful. Yeah they all get all
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: going gold. Yeah Damie Yeah, I think obviously Damian Priest left.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I think they've kept it fresh.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: May have man, every edge was I forgot. They were
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like Devil worshipers for a minute and then they were
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: like a biker club.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very confusing.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It got weird. But I think Finn needs to get
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: kicked out maybe at Mania. I think it's I.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Think they I think that's the match for Mania.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Dom and Finn or Icy.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm here for it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I saw somebody meme where they were, and I think
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I think Ray mysterio with Dom because they do it
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: every Mania, so they're gonna figure out some way.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I think Finn wins though, and if he doesn't win,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: or that he doesn't win, he's kicked out. I think
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Ray comes through and turns fucking heel and like helps
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Dom win and retain.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: You're talking crazy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Bad guy Ray.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: He's the greatest babyface. All the kids love him. He's
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: never been a bad guy never.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: That's fun.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I mean you know if you know anything about that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: They're just down to throw any ship at the wall
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: to see if it sticks.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I mean I can't.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: But is Dom is Dom is like as babyface as
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you can get while being a quote unquote heel.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't really do anything that's heeler's except to
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: hate his dad.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Like you know, people love him.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: People love him. That's gonna be a big turn too
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: when they if they eventually kick him out of this squad.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I'm glad they got Omas Krack in two in Mexico.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, they got so much talent, so now they
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: have places to use the talent, which is really cool
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and it makes you want to watch every show. Now,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I'm you gotta watch NXT, you gotta watch Triple A.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: You gotta because guys just pop up and do really
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: dope stuff. So it's a good time to be a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: wrestling fan. Yeah aw, aw's popping right now. Kenny is
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: about to be back on his game, The God of
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Professional Wrestling Kenny by God Omega.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: So TNA's on anas. I don't really watch it, but
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll get to it. I just watched stuff
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, I mostly catch a lot of
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the Yeah TNA, I'm like, it's too much.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Wrestling, man, It's wrestling every day of the week. Like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a family dog for sure. Hey, we
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• 38:22
  Speaker 2: gonna do any special? Like obviously if I'm sure you
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: guys are planning like some vinyls Grammy the Grammy Edition
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: vinyls for this album.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Actually yes, like that, the vinyl is coming, the original
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: press is coming. But yeah, we're gonna slap something special
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: on it, maybe some maybe some new songs, new artwork.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: At least put a sticker like Grammy Edition. You know
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So yeah, I love collectibles and like
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: this this moment is creating a lot of collectibles for me.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Like we did a special limited gold shirt colorway where
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it was like all right, like we want to celebrate
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: this moment as much as possible because somebody wrote it
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to my attention, Like Grammy Nominated never goes away, Like
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: whether it's two years, three years, later, you're still Grammy nominated, bro,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Like it's.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: A Grammy nominated.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: They have to say it. You gotta say the whole
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: thing like a Grammy Award winning. Let's gone.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Then you just take that motherfucker with you everywhere, Yo, everywhere.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, you want what you say? You
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: want to see my Grammy? Like no, I didn't say
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: that at all, Like what do you say grammy? Somebody
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: say Grammy because I got one right here, like it
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: would be everywhere with me. I'm gonna put it on.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Like now, you can't put it on the chain. You
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: can't do that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, look, probably could, but it
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: probably would not be very comfortable.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it's a violation. Then they'll take it back.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Like really, Kanye Piston one you put in.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: They probably don't want it back. Now.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I've seen people use them as ash trayes.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty gangster though. I mean, you can't wear
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: it out in public doing something defaced to it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense, you don't want to like, yeah,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: they got their brand, yeah yeah, brand guidelines.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Well I'll find out all the guidelines on February first,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: when you tune in for Music's Biggest night on CBS.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: How do you like your chances?
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Man, any man with two hands has a fighting chance,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and so I believe that I put up a fight
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: anything else in that category. You know what's really dope
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: is there's one other hip hop cat in the category,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Future who did a record with his daughter, and Felix
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: makes one of the records. I'm actually featured on it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you might win, like I.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Got chances now, So I love it, and I love
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: all the nominees. Man, They're all really good records for
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: different reasons. So, but that being said, I'm very biased,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: but I do think I have the best record, But
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I like my chances. But that's not best. Isn't what
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: determines this, it's you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: so you have to realize that and be like, this
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't This doesn't take away the hard work you put in.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: It doesn't take away the talent or the skill you have.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: By not being nominated, people get mad about being snubbed.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean your record wasn't good, right, It just
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: means people a couple people didn't vote for it, you know, Like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: so I know that we put our foot and ankles
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in this record, so I can live with that. I'm
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: already a winner. I'm already a winner because I'm on
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the bootleg cap.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Show What if you had to? Because I I think, uh,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I think obviously Kendrick's probably taken home everything.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: They just announced the Clips performing, so well, that's my thing,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: is like take that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I kind of hope. I mean, look, I love the
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Kendrick album, but I think Clips's album is better. But
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: it's a moment but but Kendrick, But Kendrick had such
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: an insane year that is I just don't know. I
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: don't know if, like most people would even like bat
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: and I to vote for anybody else.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of how.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Because I'm looking, I'm looking at Calshie. You could bet
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: on the Grammys.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, everybody's been talking about this Cauci, so you can bet,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Like did they show you the odds?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like there's seventy six per chance Kendrick
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: wins Best Rap Album, but Clips wins.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, and that they both up for Album of the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Year and Rap Album.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I think they're just both up for rap album.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like one and one gets the other Album
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of the Year. So I think gn X gets album. Yes,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: if they're both in both categories, I feel like they
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: could split it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: But could you That's the thing though, how do you
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: win best rap album and not? But but then no, yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: how do you do you lose the album? Right, you
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: don't have the best rap album? It doesn't make sense.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: But you know what it's votes, so it don't have
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: to make sense. I mean, he did put out one
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: song last year and was like this, so it's kind
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: of crazy.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: The line of the Drake Kendrick battle that's going to
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: live forever, it's I mean, there's a couple from Kendrick,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: but the line from Drake is Kendrick just opened his
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: mouth right now because it's true, like no, like amongst
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: everything else. I think that's the line of Drake's where
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it's like it's true.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But I mean, listen, I think gn X is an
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: incredible body of works, great record. I think I think
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: it's a classic. I just think his best album, and
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I think for me, i'd say to Paper Butterflies best album.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: But I do think gn X is in the conversation
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: because it is there's like the conceptual ship, but this
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: is the most like I feel like commercially palatable record
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: he's had where you just throw it on and like
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: it's just something bump.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just I like it. It's very West Coast, like
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: he had a firm plan and stuck to it and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: just was like, I'm just make bangers.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I thought the album was incredible,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: So shout out to Kendrick. I think whoever. I think
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: as long as it's Kendrick Tyler or Clips that wins
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Wrap Album of the Year, I'm like, eah, those three
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: from a.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Great album too. Yeah, I think.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: But I think Jid's album is like a like a
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: little like below those.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: That's fair. And as I've learned the Grammys a little bit,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I've studied every trend. I've looked at every like, well
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: maybe this happens. People tend to go with familiarity, yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of people who have votes who
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about this shit, and they're just.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Like it is like I know that guy.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kendrick Lamar, Yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, I know that you know so, and I'm
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I used to do that when I
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: first started. I was like, well, I don't know this guy,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: but I know that name, and now like I actually listen,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and they've actually done a better job with that because
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: in the voting they have a listening center right next
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: like literally right next to the name, there's a play
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: button and you could it'll open your Spotify so you
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: can listen to it while you're voting, So like you
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: can actually make an educated.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Inform who you voted for.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Nope, oh you know what I will say one me,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that's obvious. I can't say I had. That's so funny. Man.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I had a Rolling Stone article that was about to
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: go to print and the guy was like, well, yeah,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: just can you talk about like who you voted for?
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like nope, So article didn't happen, but
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: yeah you people like yeah, I wouldn't like, no, you
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: shouldn't talk about who you voted for, right, I mean,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: country would be in a better place if people didn't
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: talk about who they voted for.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: All the like sports writers and shit, they all they
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: kind of say who they vote for. They do, Yeah,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you'll watch like these guys have podcasts.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: A man, they shouldn't sell that because then now you
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: look like biased, you look like a hater. Like it's yeah,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: like I think it should be private, like your vote
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: is your vote, like it's your personal thing, Like it's
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a decision that has to be made, And so people
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: were like, what have you ever Like he was kind
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: of asking me, like, have you ever voted for independent artists,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you know, like smaller artists thinking they could have a chance,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: or do you feel like when you vote, he don't
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: have a chance. So let me just go with the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: big guys. And I'm like, I don't think that's a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: way to vote, Like you vote for what you think
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: is the dopest record of the year, you know, is
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: it going to be really hard on a year that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Kendrick drops? Yes, should you maybe hold on to your
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: album if Kendrick drops? Maybe you know what I'm saying
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: because or same with Taylor Swift, like go get out
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the way, like because you know that that's that storm
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: is kind of coming. And even at a small level,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I was on the same label with Bizarre Face when
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: they put out a record, and my dude was like,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: get out the way, like I think zar Face is
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: gonna pop and so don't drop anything, like you.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Know, and they've kind of done their own version of
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: like the nerd Ship where it's like there's like the
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: artist is as important to the group. Is it's about
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the collective.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: The art, yeah, yeah, the collecting that yeah, Like they've
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: built collectibles into it, and so it's a great, great thing.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to do. I just didn't have
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: the budget for it. Like I want toys, I want
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: a megaanto.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Because like the dude who does all the art is
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: like a part of the group, right, is he a
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: part of Sarvi? That's what I heard. I have like
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Marvel people like ex Marvel people drive drawing. Really, I
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: always thought somebody had told me that, like there's like
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a main artist who, like there could be who drew.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: The original logo maybe and does a lot of work.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's so I'm an hitch you up
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: and ask you about that. Shout out to our face.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I think my prediction is Kendrick wins Best Rap Album,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Best Album of the Year, and then Clips wins for
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Chains and Whips.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I was about to say Clips are up for a
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: couple of other things, up for best Video, They're up
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: for a few other things, So I do think that'll
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: get spread around. They're not leaving it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: They or they win. I think they might the John
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: John Legends.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Is that's a good like all right, we can check
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: off both because Kendrick's on it, so we're like, oh yeah, Kendrick,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Bam is the John Legend record nominated? The Birds Don't Sing?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Is that like sung?
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Rap could win too?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: They could? That's a great song. Yeah, to start off
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: the album with that, It's just like wow, bro, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: was like almost in tears from the beginning of that record, like, man, powerful,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: powerful music. Man just say hip hop can't make you cry?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Was that your favorite album of last year rap album?
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Well, that would imply that I voted for it, so
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I cannot speak on that. But I do think it's
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: a really good album. No, that's not true, because.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: There was albums that came out from September to December
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: twenty four.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Dayla Soul's my favorite album of this year.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Great album.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Love that record and like the whole Massifield roll I's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: been crazy.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: But I think day Law is the best one.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I think. I was about to say, I think it's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: but the Mob one is really good too.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Album is right there.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: There's some good stuff. I still go back to the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Supreme Clientele too, the Light Years. I'm still playing it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the Light Years. The production disappointed me
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: a bit. Man.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: People have been trying to disrespect Primo and I'm not
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: disspecting him. I'm just now need to stop it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I just like, damn, what would this have sounded like
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago when they really should have did this?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: And then he listened to like the Ransom and Primo
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: album and you're like, oh, these beats. I wonder what
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: would have happened if if he was on these, you know.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it's not that Primo can't do it,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: it's just maybe what they picked that you maybe disagree
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: with now.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: But I do think the two best albums out of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: those were Dayline Mob Deep.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: That Daylight record. It doesn't leave my rotation. Man, it's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: so good, so great.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right man, well listen, you're hopefully going to
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: be getting a Grammy trophy soon.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I'll bring it back next time you do.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: You still do your wrestling podcast.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Once in a while, man, shout out to the matt
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Mania homies. I pop up on people's podcasts now. I'm like,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to produce a podcast,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: but I will appear on your podcast. So that's basically
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: what I do. I'm on the Bumps and Bruises pot
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: with a couple of my homies and so yeah, I
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: just I pretty much every week I do on Twitch,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I do Monday Night ran and that's just me just
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: popping up talking about wrestling, and so yeah, I'm always like,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: if somebody wants to talk wrestling, I will talk wrestling.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: What about do you do any of the streaming where
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: you game? And like people, Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: We play Mega Man, we play two K, we play Fortnite.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I played so much stuff. And then I'll do talking
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: streams talking streams team that seemed a little better, Like
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: people just want to ask questions, they want to be
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: a part of the show. And when you're gaming, it's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like I'm focused, I'm locked in, so I can't really,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: you know, communicate as much. So the talking streams team
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to do better. But I stream. It's like I think
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: about three hours a day during the week.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: What do you do you prefer people stream the album
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: or is there a way people can just go direct
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: to you and by and support them with their pot
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: however you like.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: But honestly, band camp is great because you can pick
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: your own price it's the highest quality mus You're gonna
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: get the high quality waves or flak or whatever you want. Also,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the money comes directly to me. Also, I think band
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: camp gives you the best percentage as an artist. But honestly, man, however,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you can get the music Spotify, Apple, Title, Deezer, whatever,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like, what's important is you listen to it,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: because I think even if you don't have kids, I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: think it's a record that you can pick up something from.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: It's good hip hop. It's hip hop mixed with jazz,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: mixed with sky, mixed with reggae. Like I've had fun
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: with so many different genres, and it's important like messages
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: in it, you know what I'm saying. So I think
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: that people can pull something from it. I got friends
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and be like, yo, I ain't even got no kids, man,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: but I love these Buddies records. Like so, I think
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: it's just it's well mixed. Shout out to Felix, and
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just good music, you know. Like I
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: understand you have to put genres limitations on things. And
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: what I love about the Children's Grammy genre is that
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: there's no genre attached. So there's a hip hop album.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: There's a folk album, there's singer songwriter, there's jazz, there's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: story books. You know what I mean. There's so many
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: things that can be considered children's right.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, go support Finyl coming soon.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Vinyl's coming soon. You can go pre order it now
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Mega ram music dot Com goes right to my band camp,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: which is the best place to get it. Shout the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: needle Juice Records. They're printing those up. They're really cool
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: splatter design. It looks really good and it could be
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a part of history, man, part of history.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Are you strictly independent now? I am no.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Actually, well, I've started my own company through through a
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: good homie at Old Soul Music, So I run HYPERCMBO.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: So I run my own label through UH through another
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: company with distribution, and so I'm always looking for projects too,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: So like, if there's anybody out there I like, I
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: like producer projects. So like, if you got beats that
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: are really interesting and cool, I would love to help
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: people put those out, Like I want to help artists
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: get their dreams out too, So hit me up about Hypercombo.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: If you got some some fun, smart, kind of left
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: of center weird rap, albums or projects. You know what
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I can, I can help at least
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: with my little bit of whatever I got in resources
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: when if something excites me like I would love to
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: help out. So yeah, hit me up.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Go support the Grammy nominated album Buddies Magic Treehouse and
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I hope you win, sir.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Let's go. I appreciate that, my friend. Thank you. Yeah,