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Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Mack and Bone
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  Speaker 1: with you. We appreciate y' all hanging out with us.
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  Speaker 1: We get ready to see what Jeff Peter's just going
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  Speaker 1: to cook up when free agency begins tonight at six o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Willie Pea's custom me on the text, law, what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Who says something about Willie? He took a shot. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even remember what you said about him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of forget what shots I take sometimes. I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of like I'm a cold blooded shooter. Mac from
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  Speaker 2: the outside. He told you to eat bleeps.
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  Speaker 1: Not happy. I haven't seen him.
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  Speaker 2: This is bad since last night we uh, we were
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  Speaker 2: talking soccer and he doesn't really like us in the
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  Speaker 2: community right now talking soccer.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday he on text, y'all argue for twenty mins who
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  Speaker 1: is the better athlete in school? And the answer is
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  Speaker 1: none of y'all. That was That's what's the answer was.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not acting like I was, Michael Jordan, I'm
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  Speaker 1: certainly not acting like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, And Goldie will notice. I invented the way
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  Speaker 2: behind the wall and the free kick move exact because
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  Speaker 2: I was terrified to get hit in the voice.
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  Speaker 1: He just laid by your teammates and your coach is like,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great idea. If the wall jumps, you're there,
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  Speaker 1: they try to go under the wall and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I didn't one nearly thinking that I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to hide. That's hilarious. Also, way down for a
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  Speaker 1: few minutes, we got to talk some World Cup with Goldie.
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  Speaker 1: We could talk some canes off season. There's been that
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  Speaker 1: buzz about, like in Nikisha trade. I know they made
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  Speaker 1: a deal during the draft Bone to bring in a defenseman.
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  Speaker 1: So there's cane stuff that Goldie could help us with
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  Speaker 1: as well. Bones worried about John Shire. I know that
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  Speaker 1: might come up. So we've got a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: to do right now with Adam gold ninety nine to
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  Speaker 1: nine the Fan in Raleigh and most importantly every Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: here on The Mack and Bone Show, but even more
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  Speaker 1: important weeknights on WFNZ at seven o'clock. Goldie, how you
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  Speaker 1: do when you enjoyed the soccer? Was yesterday? Not amazing
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  Speaker 1: that the World Cup?
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  Speaker 3: Man, what an unbelievable tournament.
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  Speaker 1: This has been.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday was so good. I mean we had Brazil scoring
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  Speaker 3: twice in the second half to turn around to one
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  Speaker 3: nothing deficit to Japan. Japan. I don't know why they
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  Speaker 3: thought they could win that game one nil, but they
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  Speaker 3: tried to left their hearts. It was never gonna happen
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  Speaker 3: the way they Brazil packed them in uh and then
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  Speaker 3: back to back penalties. I don't even think the last
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  Speaker 3: one was an upset. Morocco looked better than the Netherlands
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  Speaker 3: from start to finish.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they took the game too. It Man and Netherlands
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  Speaker 1: completely changing what they do and going conservative. They're getting
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  Speaker 1: blasted for it and they deserve it. But the games
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  Speaker 1: were amazing. The drama, Germany going out on penalties to Paraguay,
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  Speaker 1: which there's no way I saw that coming. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, our four one win over Paraguay just got
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  Speaker 1: better gold. How about that. I just got more excited.
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  Speaker 3: We can't we can't knock that now Germany.
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  Speaker 2: Germany wasn't impressive for who they are. I thought the
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  Speaker 2: whole way through their first game they won seven to one,
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  Speaker 2: but they to me, I was not impressed with Germany
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  Speaker 2: this whole time, except for the one game called you
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  Speaker 2: thought the upset may happen, But I've got a vision
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  Speaker 2: for these things. Soccer bone has visions. Yes, soccer bones
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  Speaker 2: on this.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, how about this, Since they last won
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup, Italy, Germany and Spain have not won
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  Speaker 3: a knockout round match.
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  Speaker 1: Is that not insane? That is insane, man, And I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean Italy doesn't even go anymore. They don't even make
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup anymore, Noes and Germany does. Uh and yes,
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  Speaker 3: although Germany I think missed in like uh eight fourteen
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  Speaker 3: they might have missed him. No, they were the I
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  Speaker 3: don't even remember. But yes, all three of those nations
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  Speaker 3: have not won a knockout round match since winning the
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  Speaker 3: World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, to the top six teams in the
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  Speaker 1: world out, although look to your point, Morocco's number seven
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  Speaker 1: in the FIFA Rangy's that's a damn go team. But
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  Speaker 1: Germany Germany. The saying is that if you get the
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  Speaker 1: penalties with Germany, you're done. They had never lost a
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  Speaker 1: shootout at the World Cup. They were unbeaten. They only
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  Speaker 1: missed one penalty kick before yesterday, and they missed three
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and then the Netherlands. Man, Listen, I feel bad
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  Speaker 1: for these guys.
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  Speaker 2: That team doesn't lose a whole lot in these games,
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  Speaker 2: there's so much pressure.
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  Speaker 3: They still haven't they have a fifteen match unbeaten run.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it still goes down as a draw. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but like they choked, man, Like a few of those
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  Speaker 1: dudes choked. There's no the pressure got to a man.
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  Speaker 1: But my god, how about how.
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  Speaker 3: About Bono guessing so right on Somemmerville that he didn't
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  Speaker 3: even stands up. He just slid over.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelieve that was crazy. It's the World Cup's been amazing.
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  Speaker 1: The ratings goalie had been off the hook, the US ratings,
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  Speaker 1: but beyond the US ratings, the attendants, they've already said
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  Speaker 1: an all time attendance record for a World Cup before
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  Speaker 1: they got.
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  Speaker 3: The matches are all in football stadium.
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  Speaker 1: The mammoth stadiums, and they're all packed. So it's been
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  Speaker 1: a success when a lot of people fear it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be a failure. And then you throw in
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  Speaker 1: the US, and as excited as we are about them,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think, Like we have the bracket, now,
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  Speaker 1: what's your gut feeling on how far they go in
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  Speaker 1: this bracket?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, to be honest, they should make too.
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  Speaker 3: I think they'll they they'll make the quarterfinals.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they can do that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming that Belgium advances, and I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: a h an absolute certainty that Belgium does. I think
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  Speaker 3: Belgium look look four years ago, Kevin de Bruyda said
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  Speaker 3: we're old and he was right four years ago, and
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  Speaker 3: Belgium is still old. And I think the US can
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  Speaker 3: win that match. I think they'll get to the quarterfinals.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Bosni is going to be easy. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: They sat back and absorbed Canada uh in that opening
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  Speaker 3: match and then ended up being one to one. But
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  Speaker 3: I think the US should win that match. And I
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  Speaker 3: think they've already proven that they've got for the first
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  Speaker 3: time in a long time, they've got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: attacking options and the where the wherewithal to get forward,
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  Speaker 3: unlike the way they played under Greg Burhalter and to
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  Speaker 3: a certain extent under Bradley. Uh. They look like they're
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  Speaker 3: ready to get forward and attack, and they've got varied weapons.
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  Speaker 3: And I think their front really, their front five is
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  Speaker 3: really really good, especially the way Flow Baligan's playing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, man, I think it's going to be the US
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  Speaker 2: and Senegal. That's what I think the matchup is going
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  Speaker 2: to be. It's very positive. Tomorrow it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a lot like the games yesterday. Maybe penalty cakes. That's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be one of those time games.
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  Speaker 1: Soccer bonus. This isn't and soccer bone ups speak anyway. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're you're a Saudiomani guy, so I know
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  Speaker 1: you've got a soft spot for Senegal. All right, mister Liverpool,
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  Speaker 1: I understand, I understand, and I respect it. I do
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  Speaker 1: want to ask I'm going to google that here momentary.
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  Speaker 1: Let's ask you about the Canes, Goldie, because we're sitting
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  Speaker 1: here all caught up in all these hornets wheeling and
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  Speaker 1: dealing and stuff. This has been our world. But the
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  Speaker 1: can it is wild. But the Canes, like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to you know what I mean, They're the damn champs.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want all of a sudden just be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I forgot about the Like I am still
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  Speaker 1: very intrigued by what they might do in the off season.
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  Speaker 1: There's been talking about the Nikisha trade. They made a
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  Speaker 1: deal over draft weekend right too, as far as bringing
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  Speaker 1: in defensive help. And then they're so like, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with them.
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  Speaker 3: You think, let's let's let's deal with the trade they
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  Speaker 3: made first. They really didn't do anything yet because they
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  Speaker 3: traded for somebody who's tomorrow going to be an unrestricted
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  Speaker 3: free agent. Okay, so, and now John Carlson is the
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  Speaker 3: potential NHL Hall of Fame right shot defenseman, outstanding offensively
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  Speaker 3: still even though he's thirty six. But I have a
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  Speaker 3: hard time believing that the Hurricanes are going to pay
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  Speaker 3: him ten million dollars a year and somebody else will so.
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  Speaker 3: And if I were the Hurricanes, I wouldn't give him
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  Speaker 3: ten million dollars a year because to me, John Carlson
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  Speaker 3: is a luxury to them, not a necessity. So I
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  Speaker 3: believe that they'll probably unless they can work out some
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  Speaker 3: creative way to lessen that salary cap hit, I think
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  Speaker 3: they'll probably just let him walk into free agency, or
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  Speaker 3: maybe we'll get a notification today that the Hurricanes have
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  Speaker 3: flipped his rights for a fifth round pick. I have
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  Speaker 3: no idea, but don't I don't think John Carlson will
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  Speaker 3: be with the team starting tomorrow. I think there's I
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  Speaker 3: think Alexander mckeishon will I think that they will try
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  Speaker 3: and hammer out a short bridge contract with nikeishin. He
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  Speaker 3: showed offensive promise last year. He's a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a defensive liability, but he's got upside and if they
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  Speaker 3: can get him on the same page defensively, then I
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  Speaker 3: think that would be the best case scenario for Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think they're going to pay him what
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  Speaker 3: he would get on an eight year contract right now.
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  Speaker 3: I think that because they don't know how good he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be. He was no good in the playoffs. He
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  Speaker 3: was a complete liability and he didn't even provide offense
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  Speaker 3: in the playoffs. So like it remains to be seen
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  Speaker 3: what this guy's gonna be. But I think they do
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  Speaker 3: a short term deal and not get him quite the
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  Speaker 3: free agency, maybe a year shy of it and just
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  Speaker 3: kick that can down the road, which is I think
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  Speaker 3: the better play anyway. Plus he gives them a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of thump on the back end. He's got an
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  Speaker 3: elite shot, and he does show offensive instinct. I would
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  Speaker 3: have no problem with them bringing nikeishon back seth Jarvis
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  Speaker 3: is going to have surgery or had surgery on his shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna miss they're saying the first month of the season.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's that he's going to be out until
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  Speaker 3: probably Christmas, which is fine. You only need Seth Jarvis
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  Speaker 3: when the games really start to count. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you missed the Jacob Slavan missed the first half
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  Speaker 3: of the season, they didn't get hurt by Jacob Slavan
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  Speaker 3: being out half the year, so they can. They can
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  Speaker 3: survive without Seth Jarvis for half the season as long
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  Speaker 3: as he's back. At the business end.
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  Speaker 2: Of it, text, you're asking a bird dog BlackBerry's asking
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  Speaker 2: about the chances of a Connor Hellbuck trade.
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  Speaker 3: I don't it's it's not in there. It's not their style.
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  Speaker 3: This is the team that the philosophy of the Hurricanes
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  Speaker 3: has been you don't need an elite goaltender, you need
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  Speaker 3: good goaltending. And they don't believe it is worth the
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  Speaker 3: value to pay. Uh. You know. And Hella Bucks contract
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  Speaker 3: got five more years left on it at eight point
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  Speaker 3: five million.
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  Speaker 1: That's hell Bucks. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And when I saw the headline that the Hurricanes
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  Speaker 3: might do that, I went, what the hell is going on?
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  Speaker 3: But the you guys just let that go. That's fine,
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  Speaker 3: But the half million is not egregious when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to a three time Vesnor Trophy winner, But I still
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  Speaker 3: think that it's not necessarily Carolina's style. I think that
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  Speaker 3: they're very content going into the season with Brandon Bussey
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  Speaker 3: and Pyotr Kachekov as a goaltending tandem. They'll have to
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  Speaker 3: bring in another goalie they can put in the minor
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  Speaker 3: leagues who can play NHL games. I think Frederick Anderson
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  Speaker 3: probably either walked into free agency or retires, although I
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  Speaker 3: think if I were Freddy, I don't want to play.
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  Speaker 3: I just think it's going to be elsewhere and that's
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  Speaker 3: the way I think you'll approach goaltending. But I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I've been wrong before with big moves that they've made,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll see what they can do.
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  Speaker 1: Mag hell bugs here, USA goalie there. I don't Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love him for that, but I don't give a
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  Speaker 1: hell a buck about this story for the Canes bussy
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  Speaker 1: or bus, Baby, I I want to ride that bus that.
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  Speaker 3: Interested in in his career. He has been poor in
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  Speaker 3: the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, Interesting, I want to ride that bussy. Let's do it, baby,
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  Speaker 1: all right? So, uh, before you go, Goldie, we got
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  Speaker 1: to ask you about this because Bone I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he admits it much publicly. Bone is nervous about
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  Speaker 1: John Shire in the NBA. Explain yourself to Goldie here, Bone, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Sadly, he and Dusty May both got linked in the
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  Speaker 2: process to the Dallas job. And obviously for Shire it's
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  Speaker 2: because of Cooper Flag. I don't think it's gonna Eric
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  Speaker 2: Lively it's because of Cooper Flag. And then to my understanding,
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  Speaker 2: that was not just thrown out there. There was serious consideration.
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  Speaker 3: By Shy turned it down.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know he turned it down, but I that
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't just idle chatter that he really had to
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  Speaker 2: He had to think about it. So in the future,
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  Speaker 2: with all these duke guys in the league, at some
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  Speaker 2: point will there be a situation that he's drawn to
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  Speaker 2: and he will do Maybe not like right now the
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  Speaker 2: time though, right he's got a lot of work to do,
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  Speaker 2: like things he wants to com We's got to figure
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  Speaker 2: out how to close out games. That's number one year.
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  Speaker 2: But is that am I? Am I just being a
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  Speaker 2: paranoid pede over this whole thing?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Look, at some point the entire NBA is just
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  Speaker 3: going to be duke players. Uh so it wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: just Dallas that I mean a heck, he can go
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  Speaker 3: to the Hornets. And by the way, I got to
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  Speaker 3: feel that Shire is going to stay at Duke until
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  Speaker 3: we're all out of the nipples. So apparently five brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So the second one, Kagan, just committed to Duke.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what his name is, cousin, cousin.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. It's it's very spicy.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually thought of as a higher prospect at this
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  Speaker 2: point than con was.
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  Speaker 1: He's six getting bigger, yeah, six.
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  Speaker 3: Six ten, Well, you know, never mind, there's a joke
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  Speaker 3: there somewhere. I'm going to leave alone. But look, I
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  Speaker 3: think Duke is a different job than just about everywhere
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  Speaker 3: else in college. They obviously there's pressure to win, but
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  Speaker 3: for a for a school that doesn't bring in a
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  Speaker 3: ton of revenue from football, they don't have any wants
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  Speaker 3: in basketball. They generate cat in basketball, they can. They
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: are self supporting, and so the you know, the whole
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  Speaker 3: idea of well, we have to produce forty million dollars
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  Speaker 3: for our roster. Duke doesn't seem to have an issue
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  Speaker 3: with that. And I don't know what they're paying their roster.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's not cheap, but I never hear John
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  Speaker 3: complain about, well, we need this. I never hear him
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  Speaker 3: on the rubber Chicken circuit begging for cash they generated,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not really concerned about that for me. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick joked about it, or they didn't joke, they
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  Speaker 3: were serious about it. Sadly, the thirty third NFL franchise,
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  Speaker 3: Duke really runs.
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  Speaker 1: Like an NBA than they do, which makes me wonder
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  Speaker 1: if eventually could he be the NBA type of coach
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  Speaker 1: players coach.
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  Speaker 3: But I think he's an elite basketball coach, not because
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: he's got a bunch of players.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, I agree with you on that. A goldie,
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  Speaker 1: you rock man. We appreciate all the good Canes, intel
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  Speaker 1: the friendly banter. We'll talk about the USA next week,
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  Speaker 1: my god, next week at this time, hopefully we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a quarterfinal matchup. But appreciate you, goalie, Thanks so
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  Speaker 1: much man.
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  Speaker 3: Any tell