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Who won’t commit? | HBR Talk 396 · Honey Badger Radio

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Speaker 1: Welcome to HBr Talk three ninety six. Who Won't Commit.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks,
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Speaker 1: the personification of perceptivity, Mike Stevenson, Yeah, Richard, the lionhearted
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Speaker 1: and hopefully we don't have robo Lauren or anything tonight.
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Speaker 1: But before we get into any further discussion, we've got
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Speaker 1: to do what we've always got to do. And as always,
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Speaker 1: the path of a rapidly growing wildfire. Yeah man, got
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Speaker 1: this through via discord call. If Brian does want to
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Speaker 1: speak up on anything, as always, he's welcome to do so.
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Speaker 1: I think the more voices the better, as long as
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Speaker 2: And for anyone who's watching on the video of the
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Speaker 2: live stream and watching what the panda appears to be
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Speaker 2: doing now that he's in silhouette, I can I show
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Speaker 2: you that is one of his fingers. Yet no pandas.
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Speaker 2: Pandas don't really have fingers. They have paws, but they
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Speaker 2: also don't have those things that you think might be
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Speaker 2: in the ship. Shut up, I just want to I
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Speaker 2: just wanted to a point of that funny thing, because
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Speaker 2: frankly was quite funny.
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Speaker 1: So there we go. Proceed Now we need to have
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Speaker 1: a movie Bad Panda. There's the title. Somebody else gets
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Speaker 1: to write the screenplay and actually do all the work.
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Speaker 1: But yes, so, and let's see where was I the
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Speaker 1: thought provoking discussions and the provoked thoughts. Third party payment
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Speaker 1: platforms will never really be secure, I think.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: And and so since I'm deviating from my script, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna remind everyone that the government is what started this problem, right,
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Speaker 1: It wasn't uh, it wasn't the credit card companies, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't the bank. It was the Obama administration and shoot
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Speaker 1: Operation Choke Point, in which they ordered the credit card
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Speaker 1: companies and the banks to force censorship, to impose censorship
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Speaker 1: when you when you use any payment processor that uses
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Speaker 1: uses bank transactions, which it's pretty difficult not to, uh,
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Speaker 1: you are still even though that uh at that law
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Speaker 1: or directive whatever it was, is gone supposedly, right, even
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Speaker 1: though it was withdrawn, renegged whatever, it still is being
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Speaker 1: used by by the financial institutions. I think they just
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Speaker 1: like having the power to uh to engage in this
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Speaker 1: level of censorship. And that's the situation. So what we
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Speaker 1: you know, different different forms of payment that ultimately trace
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Speaker 1: sort of like bitcoin or other other e coins. UH.
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of people who were not bots, but uh,
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Speaker 1: but they I survived. I think everybody that was following
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Speaker 1: me survived. I don't know. I don't keep track of
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Speaker 1: my follower account. I thought I had ten thousand followers
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Speaker 1: for quite some time after I actually ended up with
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Speaker 1: like twelve thousand, so and I should know because I
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Speaker 1: follow most of them back. But I have been suspended
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Speaker 1: numerous times for being rude to feminist women. So all
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Speaker 1: and with that long and wandering ad. So since I
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Speaker 1: don't usually do that, but with that long and wandering ad,
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Speaker 1: I will take us into the show material. So we've
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Speaker 1: been talking a little bit about. We started out with
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Speaker 1: a conversation about the media's approach to in cells and
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Speaker 1: their invention of something called in cell ideology, which doesn't exist.
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Speaker 1: You could say, in in cells, do you have a
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Speaker 1: subculture within the greater discussion of men's issues? And and
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Speaker 1: of course that is not a full culture. None of
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Speaker 1: us have a full culture. It's a subculture within politics.
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Speaker 3: And people still not talking as well. Oh yeah, so
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Speaker 3: my cousin he used to avoid like a few weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: I looked at him like kind of like, where did
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Speaker 3: you hear that word it.
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Speaker 1: Up? Well, that's the thing.
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Speaker 3: I couldn't say you broke a pain anything like that,
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Speaker 3: so I just smiled.
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Speaker 1: It makes me wonder that. Oh, I think we watched
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Speaker 1: a bunch of scenes from that that's that four episode
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Speaker 1: series that played that had portrayed that that knifing by
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Speaker 1: the immigrant as if a white British boy had done it. Adolescents, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I like, was that term in that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? And they use my they use what they use
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Speaker 3: one of my stats as well in so and they
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Speaker 3: used to lang that I used to use years ago,
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Speaker 3: which is kind of I can't really claim it because
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Speaker 3: I have no proof of it. All the old forms
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Speaker 3: are gone now, so I have no claim to the
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Speaker 3: slang that people use every day. Because Traveler so all
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Speaker 3: my talking points as well.
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Speaker 1: So that does not surprise me. And they probably think,
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Speaker 1: you know that you can do about it.
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Speaker 3: People are people listen to him because he's like good looking?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I suppose I guess.
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Speaker 3: My interview on your channel because I use those I
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Speaker 3: used slang those terms on the ende of that that
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Speaker 3: someone gave to me on your channel a while ago.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's quite possible that you know, they they've
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Speaker 1: listened to us. You never know. I think we have
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Speaker 1: a lot more exposure than people think we do, or
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Speaker 1: at least then people say we do, because I'll I'll
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Speaker 1: talk about stuff on the show or I'll feature something,
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Speaker 1: and my co hosts will talk about stuff and it'll
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Speaker 1: be something that I haven't really heard anybody else saying
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Speaker 1: until they've said it or I've said it, And the
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Speaker 1: next thing you know, there's a talking head on television
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Speaker 1: talking about it. So you know, obviously, if you're a
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Speaker 1: big media outlet and you're running short of stories, if
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Speaker 1: you listen to smaller, more localized, or more niche media outlets,
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Speaker 1: you find things that you can use as breaking news
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Speaker 1: or breaking stories. Because worldwide it is breaking in terms of,
10:05
Speaker 1: you know, anybody that's not part of that niche or
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Speaker 1: part of that local area, nobody's ever heard of it, right,
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Speaker 1: So something similarly, you know, they might take something out
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Speaker 1: of the Dayton Daily News if it happened in Dayton.
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Speaker 1: The biggest difference is when the Dayton Daily News publishes
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Speaker 1: a story about something that happens here in the Dayton
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Speaker 1: metro area and say Fox News reports on it, they
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Speaker 1: credit the Dayton Daily News as their source for the story.
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Speaker 1: But when we talk about something in the men's rights
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Speaker 1: movement and say they read about it in a Voice
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Speaker 1: for Men, or they hear it on our channel, or
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Speaker 1: they see MRAs talking about it on X, they don't
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Speaker 1: usually credit us. They talk about it like it's just
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Speaker 1: something that they discovered themselves.
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Speaker 3: While at the bottom he stuff and play in this
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Speaker 3: book as his books full of stolen quotes and stuff,
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Speaker 3: and that's they didn't give credit to.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people have done that and uh
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Speaker 1: and I've noticed now that happens a lot. Although to
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Speaker 1: be fair, I don't really want to be famous. So
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Speaker 1: if I say something and then people start talking about
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Speaker 1: it all over the world because somebody else stole it
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Speaker 1: and put it out there, as long as it's getting
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Speaker 1: people to consider the the issue and the ideas and everything,
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Speaker 1: I don't care if they know it came from me
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Speaker 1: or not. And in fact, I might actually prefer that
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Speaker 1: they don't.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, you will not be thanked for getting
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Speaker 2: their first.
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Speaker 1: Good. Well, let's let's be fair. Let's be fair on
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Speaker 1: on most things we talk about on this channel. I
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be thanked for getting there first because I didn't.
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Speaker 2: Well, well, no one got there exactly. First. We're all
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Speaker 2: working on, you know, impulses that worm their way through
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Speaker 2: human nature. But before we get into this cloud of
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Speaker 2: who knows what going on anymore, we're gonna finish, finish
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Speaker 2: your thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but my my my point being, I think the
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Speaker 1: if the term PoID was in that show, it's probably
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Speaker 1: getting into common parlance because it was in that show. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and and that you never know, you can't deliberately make
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Speaker 1: that happen, right, But there have been movies in the
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Speaker 1: past that that have led to that. For instance, when
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Speaker 1: when I was in high school, people started I maybe
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Speaker 1: it was even junior high. I'm trying to remember exactly
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Speaker 1: when Valley Girl came out, but people people started using
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Speaker 1: the slang from that movie, and it made it into
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Speaker 1: other movies too. Heathers was another one. People started using
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Speaker 1: the slang from that movie that Yeah, I had a
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Speaker 1: friend who just basically adopted fucked me gently with a chainsaw.
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Speaker 1: I deliberately never used that, but uh, you know, I
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Speaker 1: I go with fuck me running instead because that would
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Speaker 1: be incredibly difficult. But yeah, we we had anything we
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Speaker 1: didn't like was totally grody and gag me with a
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Speaker 1: spoon Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. A lot of terminology then,
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Speaker 1: and part of that is because it was, you know,
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Speaker 1: localized terminology too, like people localized slang right, talking like that,
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Speaker 1: it makes it into a movie. The movie makes it
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Speaker 1: popular all over the country, and suddenly everybody is calling
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Speaker 1: something bogus if it is if it's bullshit, they're saying
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Speaker 1: bogus instead of bullshit. But Disney, I think tried it.
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Speaker 1: I think Disney was the company that made the Peter
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Speaker 1: Pan movie that had Robin Williams as Peter Pan all
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Speaker 1: grown up, tried to do it with the kids all
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Speaker 1: shouting Banger Rang, and of course it did not take
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Speaker 1: off because it was just something they made up and
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Speaker 1: it didn't. It wasn't cool enough to take off. So
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Speaker 1: it's more when a subgroup, right, a subculture has something
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Speaker 1: that they're already hooked. That's it. Thank you the chud king.
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Speaker 3: Uh well, if you say that, if you say that
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Speaker 3: phrase to te Brasco, you'll stay with you. But last
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Speaker 3: year and I said that, and you remember that from
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Speaker 3: the movie, that is cool. He paid, he paid weko,
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Speaker 3: so I yell about Yeah.
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Speaker 1: See it is cool when when an actor is like that,
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Speaker 1: where you know they enjoy their fans. But it's still like,
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Speaker 1: you can't orchestrate getting slang. You can't create, you can't
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Speaker 1: make it happen. It happens because it just.
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Speaker 3: There.
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Speaker 4: We go, Sorry, Peter.
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Speaker 1: Just when hey, what I'm assuming nobody could hear me
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Speaker 1: because my headphones, when I don't have a background noise,
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Speaker 1: I could hear you, Okay, But yeah, you can't orchestrate
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Speaker 1: slaying It just happens because it it it people, Uh
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Speaker 1: click with it. It clicks with them.
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Speaker 3: So I create a new term, but it's not catching
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Speaker 3: on yet.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but uh, I think foyd clicks with people.
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Speaker 1: And and then there's a pretty good reason for it too,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of women don't have personalities. I hate
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Speaker 1: to say it, but.
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Speaker 3: Someone someone said on someone said, we don't call women
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Speaker 3: news is enough?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know you it's not. It's not that
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Speaker 1: they it's not that I hate other women. It's not
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Speaker 1: that they are not worth anything as people. It's that
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Speaker 1: they aren't developing themselves, right. They don't. They don't build character.
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Speaker 1: They stick to the air and whichever the way the wind blows,
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Speaker 1: they go along with that because it's what makes them
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Speaker 1: popular and they don't want to face the relational aggression
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Speaker 1: they'll face from other women if they don't do that.
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Speaker 1: So they don't develop a personality. They don't develop likes
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Speaker 1: and dislikes, they don't develop goals, they don't develop passions,
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Speaker 1: or if they do, they keep them to themselves. And
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Speaker 1: I run into a shitload of women on social media
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Speaker 1: that when I talk to them, they sound like bots
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Speaker 1: to me, because all they are able to do is
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Speaker 1: repeat other people's talking points as arguments. They really can't.
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Speaker 1: They're they're very much like, you know, some sort of
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Speaker 1: android version of a woman. If that makes sense, it does.
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Speaker 5: I've from for as long as I've been alive, I've
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Speaker 5: noticed a certain black and whiteness in my fellow males
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Speaker 5: where where.
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Speaker 2: They feel the need they that it's not that life
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Speaker 2: is a game, that it's that life is a sport
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Speaker 2: with women at the end of it. And and they
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Speaker 2: and they feel like, you haven't completed this game until
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Speaker 2: you found a woman at the end of it. And
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Speaker 2: like even though when I was preprepescent, I mean I
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Speaker 2: could mention the Super Mario Brothers here, right, I could
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Speaker 2: do the whole game Gate thing all over and over again,
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Speaker 2: right from a different perspective where you know, everyone's every
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Speaker 2: man is expected to save his fucking princess and uh
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Speaker 2: and I never understood that. But we we have to
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Speaker 2: examine where these various apprehensions and misapprehensions are strong themselves
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Speaker 2: into the furthest corners of our civilization. Because I forgot
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Speaker 2: where I was going with this. Where I when I started.
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Speaker 1: I was talking about.
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Speaker 2: I started, but it left by the time I finished
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Speaker 2: this front.
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Speaker 4: Oh.
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Speaker 1: Well, I just wanted to point that out that it's
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Speaker 1: it's probably clicking with people specifically, because everybody knows at
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Speaker 1: least one woman that is like that, if not more,
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Speaker 1: and everybody's had to deal with that. And I mean,
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Speaker 1: I know there are women with personalities that are shitty
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Speaker 1: too like that. That's where you know, the the Karen
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Speaker 1: meme comes from. Right, There's all kinds of women with
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Speaker 1: that kind of personality, and there's there's women with good personalities, right,
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Speaker 1: And of course nobody is all one or the other.
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Speaker 1: But when you cannot display your personality because you're afraid
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Speaker 1: other people will judge you, which y'all know that that's
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Speaker 1: not a problem I have. I go ahead. I will
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Speaker 1: will either take it into consideration if I I think
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Speaker 1: that it's a fair judgment and figure out if I
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Speaker 1: need to change something, or I will let it roll
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Speaker 1: off my back like water off a duck's back if
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Speaker 1: I think it's you know not, but I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of women like you can't even tell woman that
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Speaker 1: she's the woman who's not a supermodel and knows that
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Speaker 1: she could never be a supermodel. You can't tell that
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Speaker 1: woman you wouldn't make it as a supermodel because she
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Speaker 1: would have her feelings hurt. Right. It doesn't matter to
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Speaker 1: her that she wouldn't make it as a supermodel. It
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Speaker 1: matters that you think she wouldn't make it as a supermodel.
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Speaker 1: That she wouldn't doesn't have what it takes. That's that's
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Speaker 1: pretty much the underlying problem narcissism. As long as they're narcissistic,
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Speaker 1: their personality can't be real because if you judge their
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Speaker 1: real personality, they can't live with that. Me like, if
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Speaker 1: you call me a fucking bitch, I'm gonna say, yep,
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Speaker 1: sometimes I am damn well, bet I am.
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Speaker 4: I know it proudly, proudly.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about proudly, but I can own
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Speaker 1: it to it.
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Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm I'm speaking for myself. Yes, yes, no,
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Speaker 4: if if, if, I if you're calling me a bitch,
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Speaker 4: I feel that you know my my intentions have been satisfied.
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Speaker 4: I did my job.
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Speaker 1: There you go. That's the that's the thing. Sometimes I'm
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Speaker 1: a bitch when I shouldn't be so. Now, if if
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Speaker 1: you have done something to one of my kids and
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Speaker 1: I have responded to it, and and you call me
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Speaker 1: a bitch. Then I'll be like, fine, I'm satisfied that
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Speaker 1: I have achieved what I needed to achieve then. But uh,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that's just one of those things. I
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Speaker 1: think everybody's an asshole sometimes. And but uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: you just have to be able to own up to it,
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Speaker 1: learn from it, and say, well, I should have done
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Speaker 1: this next time the circumstance comes up, That's what I'll
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Speaker 1: do in the future.
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Speaker 3: So does a shout it down at some point?
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Speaker 1: Yep, at some point we'll get to the article speaking
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Speaker 1: of bitches. So we started out with the whole in
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Speaker 1: cell culture thing, uh and and discussing you know that
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Speaker 1: that the idea that it's a culture and a not
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Speaker 1: and not a subculture among male cultures. Uh and and
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Speaker 1: an ideology which you know, like ideology, it doesn't have
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Speaker 1: goals or anything. But then we went to an article
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Speaker 1: about men not men, putting off parenthood to make sure
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Speaker 1: that they were prepared for it. First the the Daily Mail,
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Speaker 1: I think or the Guardian one or the other very
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Speaker 1: upset that men are taking time to prepare for pair
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Speaker 1: and hood before they become parents. So they don't like
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Speaker 1: it when men don't have relationships with women. But then
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Speaker 1: if men do have relationships with women and they want
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Speaker 1: to make sure they do everything right, they don't like
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Speaker 1: that either, How dare you?
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Speaker 4: They don't like men having options? Options are for women, right,
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Speaker 4: Men get to sit back and do whatever the hell
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Speaker 4: will please that woman.
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Speaker 3: And mention it.
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Speaker 4: Did do what.
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Speaker 3: They took the men sits away from the men, and
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Speaker 3: now it's women's sheds.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well everything. I mean, they took the boy Scouts.
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Speaker 4: It's now gender fluid Scouts.
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Speaker 1: That's quite that bad with boy Scouts. There may be
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Speaker 1: some changes that there's some good changes that can come
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Speaker 1: out of that. And it's a as long as they
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Speaker 1: don't take the male only activities away from the boys
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Speaker 1: in the Boy Scouts, that's a that's that would be
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Speaker 1: a big problem because they need to have their male
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Speaker 1: only activities. But the existing Girl Scouts were not affiliated.
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Speaker 1: They weren't like together, they weren't the other half of
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Speaker 1: the Boy Scouts. They you know, and they didn't they
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Speaker 1: didn't do the things the Boy Scouts do. Girls couldn't
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Speaker 1: become Eagle Scouts and so on. But people, at least
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Speaker 1: people I know that are involved with the Boy Scouts
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Speaker 1: are telling me that No, the boys still do things
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Speaker 1: with boys. They just are now having girls groups too
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Speaker 1: that are different from the boys groups. If they're doing
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Speaker 1: it that way, that's not wrong. That's the right way
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Speaker 1: to do it. As long as the women run the
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Speaker 1: girls end of it, at least on the bottom end.
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Speaker 1: They might have administrators that are men, but like the
26:03
Speaker 1: people directly working with the kids. Let women run that
26:06
Speaker 1: and let the men run the boys side of it,
26:11
Speaker 1: and let the boys be with the boys, and the
26:15
Speaker 1: girls be with the girls and and do their thing,
26:18
Speaker 1: learn their their skills and get their badges and be
26:24
Speaker 1: prepared for their futures. And you know, the ones that
26:29
Speaker 1: make it to Eagle Scout level for military careers if
26:32
Speaker 1: they want to. Uh, they did change the name to
26:34
Speaker 1: Scouts of America. Yes, uh, Senior Sticks. So Senior Sticks
26:40
Speaker 1: gave us two dollars USD and said, did they change
26:43
Speaker 1: the name to Scouts of America. The answer to that
26:45
Speaker 1: is yes, they did. While I'm at at marath g
26:50
Speaker 1: gave us five dollars as a super chow and set
26:55
Speaker 1: HBr talk three ninety six. Honey for the Badgers. Thanks
26:57
Speaker 1: for the thought provoking conversation. But you know, as far
27:04
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned just from what I've been hearing, it
27:08
Speaker 1: looks like the same club for boys as long as
27:15
Speaker 1: resources and unity, fraternization or fraternity, not fraternization but fraternity
27:23
Speaker 1: are not taken away from the boys. The minute they
27:26
Speaker 1: start making them mix and mingle and not having boy
27:33
Speaker 1: only camping and boy only activities for the boys and
27:37
Speaker 1: girl only camping and girl and the activities for the girls,
27:40
Speaker 1: then it becomes a problem. And so it is really
27:45
Speaker 1: going to depend on how they handle it more than anything.
27:52
Speaker 1: I could certainly see why girls would prefer the Boy
27:55
Speaker 1: Scouts over the Girl Scouts, because the Girl Scouts really
27:59
Speaker 1: is just it's a giant cookie selling operation that mimics
28:03
Speaker 1: the Boy Scouts enough for parents to think that, you know,
28:07
Speaker 1: something good is happening, and the girls aren't. They might
28:12
Speaker 1: be getting some skills out of it, but they're not
28:14
Speaker 1: getting anything like the preparation and future prospects that come
28:19
Speaker 1: from the Boy Scouts. Now, does anybody owe them that? No?
28:26
Speaker 1: Nobody owes the girls that, But it's not They're not
28:34
Speaker 1: doing any harm to the boys unless they start taking
28:38
Speaker 1: away their solely boy time, and then in that case,
28:47
Speaker 1: you'll hear me howling about it because even though the
28:52
Speaker 1: only Scouts in my life are friends, not myself or
28:58
Speaker 1: family members, I was a four acher, so I actually
29:04
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a farm kid. My animal that I
29:07
Speaker 1: took to the fair was a rat kid. You not
29:12
Speaker 1: entered it in a small animal's division. And one best
29:15
Speaker 1: of show with a rat. Nice, she did tricks. You
29:22
Speaker 1: can teach her ats all kinds of interesting things. They
29:24
Speaker 1: are for having brains as tiny as they have, they're
29:28
Speaker 1: smart little critters. They're smarter than women. Actually, sometimes a
29:32
Speaker 1: lot of the women I have met on X and
29:35
Speaker 1: these women. So what we ended up doing last week
29:40
Speaker 1: after reading some of the comments under the article about
29:44
Speaker 1: men not wanting to have children before they're prepared to
29:47
Speaker 1: have children, we look at eight reasons why women not men.
29:54
Speaker 1: Women are put off by marriage. Now, how do you
29:58
Speaker 1: expect men? Do you want to have kids with women?
30:03
Speaker 1: If women don't want to get married, do you? The
30:09
Speaker 1: contract is already bad enough, right, the contract you end
30:13
Speaker 1: up in as as a husband is you sign the
30:18
Speaker 1: contract you sign away your individuality. That this is what
30:27
Speaker 1: we looked at last week. Right, fear of losing independence,
30:31
Speaker 1: an individuality, right, fear of not being committed you give
30:38
Speaker 1: up your financial stability because she's going to run up
30:41
Speaker 1: your credit cards to the highest height they can get to.
30:47
Speaker 1: And you are obligated to uphold your into the deal
30:51
Speaker 1: because you have signed a contract, you have gotten married. She,
30:54
Speaker 1: on the other hand, can leave. She can break the
30:56
Speaker 1: contract with no penalties whatsoever. She can take kids with her,
31:00
Speaker 1: and she can take your income and your property as well.
31:05
Speaker 1: So it's already a raw deal for men, and men
31:08
Speaker 1: are still willing to try it, although the numbers are
31:11
Speaker 1: down and women are upset about it, but there are
31:15
Speaker 1: still men getting married even as the phenomenon of migtao increased.
31:25
Speaker 1: I never saw the number of weddings that I was
31:27
Speaker 1: hired to photograph drop. When I got out of wedding photography,
31:33
Speaker 1: I still had to turn down people. And when I
31:38
Speaker 1: explained I haven't even updated my equipment. This last time
31:41
Speaker 1: somebody asked me a photograph a wedding, I said, I
31:43
Speaker 1: haven't even updated my equipment since two thousand and sixteen
31:49
Speaker 1: or seventeen something like that. We're talking way outdated. And
31:59
Speaker 1: she found somebody to let me borrow a camera so
32:02
Speaker 1: I could photograph the wedding. Like so there's still people
32:09
Speaker 1: getting married. But uh, but yeah, it's women who are
32:18
Speaker 1: turning around and saying, well, I don't I don't want
32:21
Speaker 1: to commit. I don't want to, uh, to take on
32:27
Speaker 1: the task of doing emotional labor of maintaining relationship from
32:32
Speaker 1: my side, right, even I expect, even though I expect
32:35
Speaker 1: you to be romantic, I expect you to I expect
32:39
Speaker 1: you to treat me like I'm special in court me,
32:44
Speaker 1: through our entire marriage or entire life. I don't want
32:48
Speaker 1: to have to take care of you and show you
32:51
Speaker 1: that you're important to me in any way. I don't
32:54
Speaker 1: want to make a commitment. That's that's the contract that
32:58
Speaker 1: women are. I don't have to do anything you have
33:02
Speaker 1: to do at all, And I could still walk away
33:04
Speaker 1: and take everything with me, And yeah, it's it's not
33:09
Speaker 1: very very good for men.
33:13
Speaker 2: On another note, it has been noticed quite recently that
33:18
Speaker 2: the more you pay women for their remedial jobs, the
33:22
Speaker 2: fewer women, the fewer the children they have. But the
33:26
Speaker 2: more you pay men through their remedial jobs, the more
33:31
Speaker 2: children they have. Which is not not not to get
33:38
Speaker 2: too reductive, but it looks like the more wealth you
33:43
Speaker 2: give women, the faster you destroy civilization and the more
33:47
Speaker 2: wealth you give men, the faster you grow civilization. I'm
33:53
Speaker 2: sure it's not it's not exactly what you were talking
33:56
Speaker 2: about just now in this in this discussion, but it
33:58
Speaker 2: was parallel to it.
34:00
Speaker 1: It is kind of you know, if you look at
34:05
Speaker 1: the relationship between men and women throughout history, there was
34:10
Speaker 1: a partnership. It wasn't identical, but the responsibilities even to
34:17
Speaker 1: each other out They shored each other up. They were
34:22
Speaker 1: dependent on each other yin and yang, right. And you
34:25
Speaker 1: had if men were going to be the ones going
34:33
Speaker 1: out and earning a living, or before work, before there
34:41
Speaker 1: was work, having a trade that they did in order
34:45
Speaker 1: to earn a living in their home, you had the
34:49
Speaker 1: woman taking responsibility for making sure that the home was
34:55
Speaker 1: a refuge, that the home was a place that he
34:59
Speaker 1: could come home to come back to and feel cared for, nurtured, loved,
35:08
Speaker 1: and supported. And while he was supporting her economically, she
35:15
Speaker 1: supported him emotionally and mentally and in many ways physically.
35:25
Speaker 1: And it's very important that you have that partnership if
35:30
Speaker 1: you're going to expect someone to keep you, if you're
35:38
Speaker 1: going to expect someone to provide for you, well, what
35:43
Speaker 1: ended up happening in the twentieth century was women started
35:49
Speaker 1: seeing an environment in which the breadwinner role didn't look
35:55
Speaker 1: as hard as it used to look. Right, the family
35:59
Speaker 1: head of house hold, protector and provider didn't have to
36:04
Speaker 1: go kill things and bring them home and butcher them
36:07
Speaker 1: and clean, clean and butcher them and tan the skins
36:12
Speaker 1: and all right. They didn't have to do all that.
36:15
Speaker 1: Didn't have to necessarily know a trade. He could go
36:17
Speaker 1: work in a factory or an office, might even be
36:22
Speaker 1: a journalist, you know. He didn't have to be. He
36:26
Speaker 1: didn't have to choose from farmer, military, or providing a
36:33
Speaker 1: service like shoeing horses or making coats and clothes for people.
36:42
Speaker 1: He actually could work for somebody else. So they decided
36:46
Speaker 1: they wanted to do it, and then a lot of
36:48
Speaker 1: them went out and did it. And as the twentieth
36:52
Speaker 1: century progressed, the feminist ideology began to con events women
37:01
Speaker 1: to abandon their side of the marriage, abandoned the role
37:09
Speaker 1: of being the steward of the household, the individual who
37:15
Speaker 1: made tore things were the way they should be, managed
37:18
Speaker 1: the finances, and made sure that the family members had
37:25
Speaker 1: their emotional support, their physical support in the form of
37:31
Speaker 1: nourishment and a comfortable environment, and in particular made sure
37:36
Speaker 1: that the head of household had that because he needed
37:40
Speaker 1: to be replenished when he came home. So the next
37:43
Speaker 1: day when he went out to win more bread, he
37:47
Speaker 1: wasn't beaten down, worn down and exhausted. And so now
37:54
Speaker 1: you have men still fulfilling their role right, but when
38:02
Speaker 1: they come home, the wife is haranguing them about not
38:06
Speaker 1: doing the dishes because she also worked eight hours and
38:09
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that she sat in an air conditioned
38:12
Speaker 1: office and he worked on the county highway in ninety
38:17
Speaker 1: eight degree heat. She shouldn't have to do any more
38:21
Speaker 1: housework than he does. It's and of course women, from
38:32
Speaker 1: their perspective, they think it's unfair to them. But the
38:37
Speaker 1: fact is women got a get out of your responsibilities
38:43
Speaker 1: free card, and those responsibilities had to go somewhere, and
38:50
Speaker 1: men have been shouldering whatever responsibilities nobody else would throughout
38:55
Speaker 1: history and guess what they did. And so now we
39:01
Speaker 1: have a situation where people think marriage isn't happy anymore,
39:06
Speaker 1: and women in particular really don't understand that they are
39:11
Speaker 1: the root of the root of the problem most of
39:14
Speaker 1: the time, So concerns about financial stability twenty ten. Now
39:22
Speaker 1: that this is a while back twenty ten. A twenty
39:26
Speaker 1: ten Pew research study found that roughly a quarter of
39:30
Speaker 1: unmarried young adults age is thirty five or twenty five
39:34
Speaker 1: to thirty four cited financial instability as a primary reason
39:40
Speaker 1: they are not currently married. That's a huge number. It's
39:46
Speaker 1: no secret that the millennial generation is grappling with unique
39:49
Speaker 1: financial challenges. We're talking about student debt, high cost of living,
39:53
Speaker 1: and not to mention stagnant wages. Now throwing the cost
39:57
Speaker 1: of modern weddings. My wedding, I think we spent grand
40:05
Speaker 1: total between the church and everything else, including the clothing
40:14
Speaker 1: we wore in the hotel room we went to after
40:18
Speaker 1: the wedding, one thousand dollars. That was That was pretty
40:26
Speaker 1: expensive for us. We thought that was a lot. But
40:31
Speaker 1: I photographed weddings where the the bride's family shelled out
40:40
Speaker 1: more money for her wedding than my parents spent on
40:44
Speaker 1: to buy the house I grew up in when they
40:47
Speaker 1: purchased it. I never could understand that I wouldn't even
40:52
Speaker 1: pay that much for a car.
40:55
Speaker 4: Well, the thing about weddings that I hate is that
40:58
Speaker 4: you know it's more you know, people use this the
41:05
Speaker 4: idea of you know, having it being seen in front
41:08
Speaker 4: of God and all your family and blah blah blah
41:10
Speaker 4: blah blah. And you know, I mean I I I'm
41:14
Speaker 4: not a religious person, but I can understand the justification
41:20
Speaker 4: of you know, your religion and you know, wanting to
41:23
Speaker 4: be you know, formally seen in the eyes of your
41:28
Speaker 4: God as you know you two are together now. But
41:31
Speaker 4: in reality, at least in the United States and most
41:34
Speaker 4: of the western world, the government decides when you're married
41:39
Speaker 4: or not right because it's it's if you're going to
41:44
Speaker 4: go through a formal reception, you have to go to
41:49
Speaker 4: the court. People. This always kills me. It's like the
41:54
Speaker 4: wedding is the biggest thing. Meanwhile, you have to go
41:58
Speaker 4: and sign paperwork, you have to go get your marriage certificate.
42:02
Speaker 4: At that point you're legally married. The whole performance walking
42:07
Speaker 4: down the aisle, that's all it is, is just it's
42:09
Speaker 4: a show.
42:10
Speaker 1: It's a performance.
42:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, So I just don't take too
42:16
Speaker 4: much stock and you know and be oh, I want
42:19
Speaker 4: to get married, No, you want the attention, you know,
42:22
Speaker 4: because let's be real about it. God doesn't care if
42:25
Speaker 4: your wedding dress costs five thousand dollars. You know, this
42:30
Speaker 4: is something that you do because you want the you
42:33
Speaker 4: want your my day. And it's only women. Men. Men
42:37
Speaker 4: do not have this, and of course not not all
42:42
Speaker 4: not all right, but men don't have this illustrious dream
42:47
Speaker 4: of oh, I'm going to be standing at the end
42:49
Speaker 4: of the aisle waiting for her father. That's not the
42:52
Speaker 4: way it happens this And I'm going to equate this
42:57
Speaker 4: to pregnancies too, right, Women like these types of events
43:04
Speaker 4: for the attention that they can garner off of it. Yeah,
43:08
Speaker 4: and there's nothing you're gonna tell me any different, right, Like,
43:11
Speaker 4: I just it's blatantly obvious if you look at social
43:17
Speaker 4: media and the I mean just the things that women
43:20
Speaker 4: post to gain attention is so unbelievably ridiculous. Like I
43:26
Speaker 4: was watching one video today or these these get ready
43:29
Speaker 4: with me, bitch. I don't want to sit here and
43:31
Speaker 4: watch you brush your fucking teeth, you know what I mean?
43:35
Speaker 4: Why do you use every little, the minutia, the tiniest
43:40
Speaker 4: details of people's lives have to be celebrity. Yeah, I mean,
43:46
Speaker 4: of course that goes with it too, you know, But
43:50
Speaker 4: it's just this narcissistic attention horror type of behavior that
43:56
Speaker 4: really stands out to me. I mean, if you insert
44:00
Speaker 4: in states in America, if you want to be married,
44:02
Speaker 4: you just have to live with somebody for a certain
44:05
Speaker 4: amount of years and boom, there you go, common.
44:08
Speaker 1: Law marriage married.
44:09
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, you know, so all the pop and
44:13
Speaker 4: circumstance is it just never really sat well with me
44:19
Speaker 4: because I just you know, I recognize it for what
44:22
Speaker 4: it is. And you know, it's okay if you want
44:25
Speaker 4: to have a day to celebrate blah blah blah, Okay, fine,
44:29
Speaker 4: but if you're now putting yourself in a financial bind
44:36
Speaker 4: because your day has to be perfect, it's got to
44:38
Speaker 4: be perfect. Nothing, nothing in life is perfect. You are
44:42
Speaker 4: setting yourself up for a fucking failure if you think
44:45
Speaker 4: that everything is just going to be perfect. Life just
44:48
Speaker 4: doesn't happen that way, no.
44:51
Speaker 1: And I one of the things that I've you know,
44:55
Speaker 1: kind of told my kids, like, don't waste money on
44:58
Speaker 1: a party like that, you know, don't waste money putting
45:02
Speaker 1: on a show for other people. You know, maybe enjoy
45:07
Speaker 1: the day with your family. And I demonstrated it for
45:10
Speaker 1: him myself, right, My husband and I we both of
45:13
Speaker 1: us are not Neither one of us likes to be
45:17
Speaker 1: the center of attention in a room full of people.
45:20
Speaker 1: It's not really our thing. So when we started, well,
45:26
Speaker 1: we're gonna get married, you know, and and doing our thing.
45:29
Speaker 1: We're gonna get We're gonna do this right. We're gonna
45:31
Speaker 1: make it legal so that we don't have any problems
45:35
Speaker 1: that come from any of the problems that come from
45:37
Speaker 1: having it not be legal. And that was that was
45:40
Speaker 1: the only reason we were gonna make it legal, because
45:42
Speaker 1: we had already committed to each other outside of the
45:47
Speaker 1: legality of it, and that wasn't going away. And you know,
45:52
Speaker 1: we had that conversation obviously, and I was I made
45:55
Speaker 1: it a point, you know, when we have a child together,
45:58
Speaker 1: I'm committed. You couldn't get rid of me if you
46:01
Speaker 1: tried now, you'd have to get a restraining order. And
46:07
Speaker 1: you know, and he pretty much said the same kind
46:10
Speaker 1: of thing to me, just not quite as silly of
46:13
Speaker 1: a manner. He's more romantic. He's a more romantic person
46:17
Speaker 1: than I. I'm not a romantic person at all. And
46:22
Speaker 1: you know, but we had had other things that we
46:25
Speaker 1: had to deal with in life that if it's not
46:27
Speaker 1: legal and it doesn't count. It made those things difficult.
46:32
Speaker 1: And the other end of it was there was a
46:34
Speaker 1: lot of family pressure for me to not treat him
46:36
Speaker 1: like he was the head of my household and the
46:39
Speaker 1: father of my child because we hadn't made it legal,
46:43
Speaker 1: and I was calling bullshit on that. So we said,
46:46
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna have to have a wedding, all right,
46:48
Speaker 1: when we start looking at all of the things that
46:51
Speaker 1: people do, and I got sick, physically sick. It was
46:59
Speaker 1: we thought I had the flu, but it wasn't the flu.
47:06
Speaker 1: I was just so stressed out over the idea of
47:09
Speaker 1: doing all the you know, all of the steps and
47:12
Speaker 1: spending all of that money and all of the showmanship
47:17
Speaker 1: and making sure things are satisfactory to everybody that's going
47:22
Speaker 1: to be there and stuff. And I finally just looked
47:26
Speaker 1: at him, you know, we're looking through bridal magazines, and
47:30
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do this, you know,
47:32
Speaker 1: can we elope and and just tell everybody afterwards we
47:38
Speaker 1: got married and we're going to have a barbecue now.
47:42
Speaker 1: And yeah, we almost did that, Like we came really
47:47
Speaker 1: close to doing that, but our parents would have been
47:50
Speaker 1: their feelings would have been hurt if we didn't have
47:52
Speaker 1: some kind of wedding that we invited our family to.
47:56
Speaker 1: So we had some kind of wedding. My uncle in
48:02
Speaker 1: law is a Baptist minister, and I was raised in
48:09
Speaker 1: the Christian Union Church, which is an offshoot, and so
48:15
Speaker 1: you know, that meant more to me having family do
48:19
Speaker 1: it than anything. And so that's where we got married,
48:23
Speaker 1: was in his church. It's a storefront building, not a
48:27
Speaker 1: big fancy church. And we had about fifty people who
48:31
Speaker 1: were there that were just members of our family. And
48:35
Speaker 1: we didn't have a reception. We didn't do the reception.
48:38
Speaker 1: We didn't have a band, we didn't have a DJ,
48:41
Speaker 1: we didn't have any of that stuff. We had, you know,
48:44
Speaker 1: kind of a pot luck and a homemade cake that
48:49
Speaker 1: my mother in law decorated. And my family are photographers,
48:54
Speaker 1: so they weren't going to let it go by without
48:57
Speaker 1: like six thousand pictures being taken that anymore. I don't
49:01
Speaker 1: even know where my wedding pictures are. And and that
49:04
Speaker 1: was it. But we didn't we didn't have to do
49:06
Speaker 1: all this. You know, the cost of modern weddings, you
49:11
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. It is not necessary. No,
49:15
Speaker 1: you'll be just as married. If you do it the
49:19
Speaker 1: way that my husband and I did, and it'll be
49:22
Speaker 1: a lot more fun unless you are one of those
49:25
Speaker 1: huge party animals that has to have that kind of
49:27
Speaker 1: stuff happen and you spend money on stuff like that
49:29
Speaker 1: all the time and you're rich. If you're not into that,
49:34
Speaker 1: you're not obligated to do that. Now, you might not
49:38
Speaker 1: get a thousand gifts from people you don't know, but
49:43
Speaker 1: that's okay. You just you know, go your own way,
49:48
Speaker 1: earn your own way.
49:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, and really, and you know, oftentimes, like you know,
49:52
Speaker 4: if if you're going into it with the idea of
49:55
Speaker 4: like the gifts that you're gonna get, they will never
49:59
Speaker 4: offse at the cost of what you had to do
50:02
Speaker 4: to get those kids. So again, like it's just it's
50:08
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense, It doesn't make rational sense if
50:11
Speaker 4: you really look at the finance of it. And interestingly enough,
50:16
Speaker 4: finance is one of the main reasons that people divorce.
50:21
Speaker 1: Yep, people divorce because because they're they're in debt. They
50:25
Speaker 1: divorce because they're arguing about money. They divorced because one
50:29
Speaker 1: of them feels like they're they're pulling all the weight
50:32
Speaker 1: and the other isn't ye, And it's usually women and
50:37
Speaker 1: they don't realize, you know, if you're earning fifty thousand
50:43
Speaker 1: a year but you're spending thirty thousand a year on
50:46
Speaker 1: the credit cards, and he's earning forty thousand a year
50:49
Speaker 1: and he's not spending anything on the credit cards. Uh,
50:54
Speaker 1: it's it's you're not out earning him. Yeah, you're you're
51:00
Speaker 1: not the breadwinner. Yeah, you're paying your debts.
51:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the number one thing that women bring to
51:07
Speaker 4: marriage is their fucking debt, you know, and it's just
51:12
Speaker 4: kind of expected for things to just be handled. And
51:16
Speaker 4: I'm speaking from well not so personal experience, because my
51:20
Speaker 4: brother married a woman who had a huge amount of debt,
51:25
Speaker 4: and you know, she always wanted to be price, she
51:28
Speaker 4: always wanted to be a mom, so they did in vitro,
51:32
Speaker 4: and of course they had to pay for a certain
51:35
Speaker 4: portion of debt. But now she's home with the babies
51:39
Speaker 4: and she can't work, so guess who has to pay
51:41
Speaker 4: all of her credit card debt? You know, it's just
51:47
Speaker 4: I don't I don't like it at all, but yeah,
51:53
Speaker 4: no I did. Marriage is so much more complicated than
51:58
Speaker 4: people give it the time. I'm an attention to, and
52:02
Speaker 4: they tend to find out at their own at their
52:07
Speaker 4: own peril. You know what the aggressive coviture ladies, Yeah right, You.
52:13
Speaker 1: Know, coviture used to prevent women from ending up with
52:18
Speaker 1: that massive debt before they got married, and they used
52:23
Speaker 1: to prevent them from costing the family their home or
52:27
Speaker 1: the family car or the horse and buggy in the day.
52:33
Speaker 1: But you know now now women women can totally wreck
52:40
Speaker 1: their credit before they get married. They can end up
52:45
Speaker 1: with such massive debt that even after they get married,
52:48
Speaker 1: they will not and will not be able to ever
52:54
Speaker 1: pay it off. And you know, you have that one
52:58
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars you spent on a on
53:01
Speaker 1: a degree that you're not using to earn a living,
53:05
Speaker 1: a degree in underwater basket weaving, feminist underwater basket weaving.
53:09
Speaker 1: You can only leave girl baskets. The boy baskets are
53:15
Speaker 1: just right out.
53:15
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll have the samuels. I have a PhD.
53:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a PhD.
53:25
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, can you say I have a PhD?
53:30
Speaker 3: The way the lady said it.
53:33
Speaker 4: I have a pH d.
53:35
Speaker 3: That's all.
53:35
Speaker 1: I have a toolbox, a fifty pound backpack that I
53:42
Speaker 1: carry sometimes back and forth to work because well, almost
53:45
Speaker 1: every night, because I have things in it that I
53:47
Speaker 1: use at work, tools and uh well, cleaning stuff that
53:53
Speaker 1: that isn't necessarily properly provided. So I have a pair
53:59
Speaker 1: of gloves that the the sleeves of the gloves go
54:04
Speaker 1: all the way up to my shoulder. Dang well, we
54:08
Speaker 1: have hard water in the Dayton metro area, and if
54:14
Speaker 1: I'm off work for three days in a row, the
54:19
Speaker 1: the toilets get a ring. So I have a pair
54:23
Speaker 1: of gloves with sleeves that go all the way up
54:25
Speaker 1: to my elbow.
54:26
Speaker 4: Oh, those are the kind of gloves. I thought you
54:27
Speaker 4: were talking about, a more fashionable pair. It was very interesting.
54:31
Speaker 1: They're not silicon, and they're not latex. I can't remember
54:38
Speaker 1: the night Trial. Not night Trial. They're thick. They're thick.
54:43
Speaker 1: They're almost like plastic, right, and they're made for well,
54:50
Speaker 1: let's just say I got them at Harbor Freight. I
54:53
Speaker 1: did not buy them at I don't know if the
54:56
Speaker 1: fashion bug is still a thing. I haven't been close
54:59
Speaker 1: shopping at any place other than Goodwill in a while
55:02
Speaker 1: because I don't like to spend money on brand new
55:04
Speaker 1: clothes when they are perfectly good clothes that are not
55:08
Speaker 1: brand new that will last just as long as the
55:13
Speaker 1: new ones will for buck fifty a goodwill So yeah,
55:20
Speaker 1: but yeah, out of the weeds there may be PVC.
55:24
Speaker 1: They might be PVC. Oh, a night motorcyclist said, Germany
55:32
Speaker 1: are not doing the thing that you have to report
55:36
Speaker 1: you leave in the country.
55:37
Speaker 4: Nor will they're not.
55:40
Speaker 1: No, Oh, that's good. I imagine they had a lot
55:42
Speaker 1: of outrage there. But yeah, we talked about that on Tuesday.
55:47
Speaker 1: Only the men, right, not the women. Only the men
55:50
Speaker 1: had to had to report to the military, did not.
55:55
Speaker 3: Men of fighting the agent eighteen to forty five.
55:58
Speaker 1: Yep, men of fighting age. Although if you, if you
56:03
Speaker 1: ever work in a nursing home, you will discover that
56:08
Speaker 1: if you fail at being a nurturing and considerate caregiver
56:15
Speaker 1: and you scare somebody in his eighties who can't see
56:19
Speaker 1: very well and can't hear very well, fighting ages relative
56:24
Speaker 1: men will defend themselves, even in their eighties. They may
56:27
Speaker 1: not be as good at it, but they'll try.
56:32
Speaker 3: And uh, especially especially in Ukrainia with no kidnap. Yeah,
56:37
Speaker 3: they connects the guy down syndrome. I mean it.
56:44
Speaker 1: In the United States, if you have down syndrome, you
56:48
Speaker 1: still have to register for selective service. That's insane in
56:52
Speaker 1: the United States. If you have a condition that gets
57:01
Speaker 1: you labeled a quadriplegic. Quadriplegic doesn't necessarily mean all four
57:07
Speaker 1: limbs are paralyzed. It can mean that all four limbs
57:10
Speaker 1: have uh reduced mobility to a degree. So you can
57:15
Speaker 1: be a quadriplegic but still be able to move your
57:19
Speaker 1: limbs well, yeah, be able to walk by yourself.
57:23
Speaker 4: I don't know you've seen the video of the quadriplegic
57:26
Speaker 4: shooter who sorted a line of coke and then shut
57:29
Speaker 4: off some rounds.
57:30
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, I haven't seen that, but but you
57:35
Speaker 1: could be. You could have that condition. And if you
57:38
Speaker 1: just don't sign up for selective Service because you have
57:41
Speaker 1: that condition, you are still in violation.
57:44
Speaker 3: I keep I keep health under style. You know how
57:49
Speaker 3: they are.
57:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's it's actually on the Selective Service website.
57:56
Speaker 1: I looked it up, and I and you. You have
58:02
Speaker 1: to prove you're disabled, first of all. But second of all,
58:05
Speaker 1: there are conditions, there are conditions that are severely disabling
58:09
Speaker 1: in life that you could be on disability. You could
58:12
Speaker 1: be receiving disability, and the military would still find a
58:16
Speaker 1: way to use you in a war if you're a man.
58:19
Speaker 3: So I would have to sign up selective service in vales.
58:26
Speaker 1: Yep, you definitely would. Yep. You'd have to go in
58:31
Speaker 1: there and uh sign up. And then if you were
58:35
Speaker 1: if a draft was enacted, you would have to prove
58:38
Speaker 1: all your medical conditions with documentation before they would consider
58:43
Speaker 1: whether or not you might have a medical exemption.
58:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got I've got flat feet as well, so that.
58:50
Speaker 1: Would probably disqualify you. Some of the other things you
58:54
Speaker 1: told me would probably disqualify you. Uh, but uh, but
58:59
Speaker 1: you have you would still have to go in and
59:02
Speaker 1: give them the ability to determine that. And then the
59:05
Speaker 1: other the other thing they do is they change the standards. So,
59:09
Speaker 1: for instance, the IQ standards and stuff like that changed
59:14
Speaker 1: during the Vietnam War, and so did the standards for
59:20
Speaker 1: like your legal status if you were convicted of crimes
59:25
Speaker 1: that would have kept you out of the military before
59:27
Speaker 1: the war. They relaxed some of those standards and even
59:32
Speaker 1: gave people reduced sentences for serving.
59:34
Speaker 4: Wow.
59:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, So and you know, this is one of those
59:41
Speaker 1: things people don't realize that it's not just that men
59:48
Speaker 1: are used by the military because they're stronger. They will
59:52
Speaker 1: take men that are less fit than women. Right, they
1:00:01
Speaker 1: will take men who are completely incapable of being fit,
1:00:07
Speaker 1: and they will force them to become fit to the
1:00:09
Speaker 1: best of their ability. And if they're not able to
1:00:16
Speaker 1: then they might medically discharge them, or they might decide
1:00:19
Speaker 1: that you're doing it on purpose and to give you
1:00:22
Speaker 1: a dishonorable discharge and possibly imprison you in all kinds
1:00:26
Speaker 1: of shit. So men, they're they're subject to some pretty
1:00:34
Speaker 1: enslaving treatment when it comes down to it, by selective service.
1:00:40
Speaker 1: But yeah, women, you know this, this idea of oh
1:00:44
Speaker 1: getting married, we can't do that. The cost of modern
1:00:48
Speaker 1: weddings is too much, even though it's the woman that
1:00:50
Speaker 1: drives up the cost pulling personal assets, even though it's
1:00:55
Speaker 1: the woman that drives up the debt most of the time. Right,
1:01:00
Speaker 1: And and it's there's another thing about that. The whole
1:01:05
Speaker 1: point of creating a household with another person and and
1:01:11
Speaker 1: becoming partners, you are creating in a way a business,
1:01:18
Speaker 1: mm hmm, right, not in.
1:01:21
Speaker 4: A way in almost every way.
1:01:23
Speaker 1: Is yeah, you're not incorporated in terms of you know,
1:01:29
Speaker 1: you selling a product or a service to the public.
1:01:32
Speaker 1: But you have incorporated as a household. Your household has
1:01:36
Speaker 1: its finances, and and you band together as a household
1:01:43
Speaker 1: too to keep yourselves safe and comfortable and happy and
1:01:51
Speaker 1: and loved and cared about. Your family is supposed to
1:01:56
Speaker 1: be your safe haven. It's supposed to be the people
1:01:59
Speaker 1: that you can turn to when you have questions or
1:02:02
Speaker 1: concerns or wants or needs, and the people that you
1:02:06
Speaker 1: support when they have questions or concerns or wants and needs.
1:02:10
Speaker 1: And so for women to be like, I want to
1:02:13
Speaker 1: pull my personal assets, why because you plan on leaving.
1:02:18
Speaker 1: You're only going to do this for ten years or less,
1:02:21
Speaker 1: depending on you know whether or not you plan to
1:02:24
Speaker 1: get alimony. Because that's what the first thing I'd be
1:02:28
Speaker 1: worried about with a woman is that if she's not
1:02:34
Speaker 1: she's not cool with pulling her personal assets, that she's
1:02:39
Speaker 1: planning on leaving, that she's not taking this and she's
1:02:42
Speaker 1: not making a commitment right. The complexity of sharing financial responsibilities.
1:02:49
Speaker 1: Will you create a budget instead of two separate budgets,
1:02:53
Speaker 1: you put all of the household expenses on that one budget.
1:02:59
Speaker 1: You put all of the household income as the source
1:03:03
Speaker 1: of payment into that budget and then you have if
1:03:09
Speaker 1: you have money left over after you have accounted for
1:03:12
Speaker 1: all of your bills, that is household money, but most
1:03:21
Speaker 1: most women think of it as yours and mine instead.
1:03:26
Speaker 4: What's what's you? What's mine is mine, and what's yours
1:03:28
Speaker 4: is mine is mine?
1:03:30
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. And the really unfortunate thing is that a
1:03:37
Speaker 1: lot of times men will go into a marriage with
1:03:41
Speaker 1: a good standing with their bank and a good credit
1:03:46
Speaker 1: rating because they have been careful, and the wife ends
1:03:51
Speaker 1: up overdrawing the account too many times or running up
1:03:55
Speaker 1: credit card debt and so on, and then leaves. And
1:03:59
Speaker 1: then there when the man is divorced, his credit is
1:04:03
Speaker 1: wrecked and his bank bank standing is wrecked. You know,
1:04:09
Speaker 1: my husband was a divorcee before we got married, and
1:04:12
Speaker 1: when we got married, Uh, if we had wanted to
1:04:16
Speaker 1: not have joint accounts, we would. We wouldn't have really
1:04:20
Speaker 1: had that choice without choosing not to have accounts at all,
1:04:26
Speaker 1: because she had overdrawn so frequently on their joint account
1:04:31
Speaker 1: that he couldn't get an account without a co signer.
1:04:36
Speaker 1: Now he could after years of of him just being
1:04:41
Speaker 1: able to run that account like I hands off that account.
1:04:45
Speaker 1: The only thing I ever do is transfer money into
1:04:48
Speaker 1: it for some bills. But but aside from that, you know,
1:04:57
Speaker 1: he's run it and it's never had a problem ever.
1:05:03
Speaker 1: So now after years of marriage, his standing with the
1:05:06
Speaker 1: bank is good again, his credit is good again. Uh
1:05:10
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know he's had he's had recovery.
1:05:14
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, that was something that being married and
1:05:22
Speaker 1: took away from it and in his first marriage. But
1:05:25
Speaker 1: it's women who are scared high cost of living. It
1:05:30
Speaker 1: is cheaper individually. It is cheaper per person for five
1:05:38
Speaker 1: people to live together, and uh, five people to eat together,
1:05:44
Speaker 1: five people to share the same electricity and water bill
1:05:47
Speaker 1: and cable, uh internet, whatever else that you know you
1:05:53
Speaker 1: buy for the household, for a family to be on
1:05:57
Speaker 1: the same insurance plan, it is cheaper per person than
1:06:01
Speaker 1: it is individually. So it's cheaper to be married. It's
1:06:11
Speaker 1: not cheaper to have kids because kids don't bring income in,
1:06:15
Speaker 1: but it is cheaper to be married. And them worrying
1:06:20
Speaker 1: about stagnant wages. Stop voting for Democrats, ladies, you won't
1:06:25
Speaker 1: have that problem. That's that's why that happens. Uh. The
1:06:35
Speaker 1: picture gets even murky murkier. She says, there's nothing murky
1:06:40
Speaker 1: about it. Ladies, we see she right through your ship.
1:06:46
Speaker 1: We see through it. It's not murky. It's that you're
1:06:50
Speaker 1: all wet financial security.
1:06:54
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead. I'm glad, I'm women. I don't
1:06:59
Speaker 3: have to tell.
1:07:01
Speaker 1: You're glad. You're what in visible women?
1:07:05
Speaker 3: Because women don't see me.
1:07:07
Speaker 1: That is the that is a skill in a way.
1:07:14
Speaker 1: But they certainly aren't going to They certainly aren't going
1:07:17
Speaker 1: to exploit you financially if they don't know you exist
1:07:23
Speaker 1: well anymore than they do through taxation. But and even
1:07:30
Speaker 1: if even people who don't pay income tax, if you're
1:07:32
Speaker 1: paying for products that are have tariffs or sales tax,
1:07:38
Speaker 1: if your money is going to your local government, your
1:07:44
Speaker 1: state government, your federal government, so your regional government, your
1:07:50
Speaker 1: federal government, national government, it's uh, it's going to women. So,
1:07:59
Speaker 1: she says, financial security is a significant part of our lives,
1:08:03
Speaker 1: affecting our well being and lifestyle. So it is understandable
1:08:06
Speaker 1: why considerations about finance can be a valid concern that
1:08:09
Speaker 1: make some women hesitant about marriage. It's funny too, because
1:08:15
Speaker 1: women who are married have at least a financial safety
1:08:23
Speaker 1: net in that they have a partner. If something happens
1:08:26
Speaker 1: to them, then he can earn. And it used to
1:08:33
Speaker 1: be that women could consider themselves the safety net as
1:08:36
Speaker 1: well as something happens to the husband, the wife can earn.
1:08:39
Speaker 1: But now women are getting married and thinking of themselves
1:08:44
Speaker 1: as still individuals rather than part of the family primarily,
1:08:50
Speaker 1: and so they're not considering themselves or their partner each
1:08:57
Speaker 1: other's safety net, she says. But wait, the list is
1:09:05
Speaker 1: far from being over. We still have other important points
1:09:09
Speaker 1: to discuss, so let's see what else. The instability of
1:09:14
Speaker 1: modern relationships. Modern relationships aren't stable, Guys, I wonder who
1:09:20
Speaker 1: fault that is? Who is it fault? Who is this
1:09:24
Speaker 1: woman gonna blame for the instability of modern relationships? Richard,
1:09:35
Speaker 1: What were you gonna say in she's gonna blame insults?
1:09:41
Speaker 1: I can see that.
1:09:42
Speaker 4: I can definitely see that.
1:09:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, yep. In today's fast paced world, nothing is certain. Yes,
1:09:51
Speaker 1: there are two things that are certain. Death and taxes.
1:09:54
Speaker 1: We know that, especially when it comes to relationships. To
1:10:00
Speaker 1: we can look around. Divorce rates have been on the rise,
1:10:03
Speaker 1: and there's no denying that it influences the way we
1:10:06
Speaker 1: perceive marriage. So the lowest number that I've seen from
1:10:11
Speaker 1: attorneys reporting on you know who they serve is that
1:10:16
Speaker 1: sixty nine percent of divorce is initiated by women, not men.
1:10:27
Speaker 1: And most of the women that are initiating divorce are
1:10:31
Speaker 1: not doing so because they were abused, abandoned, or cheated on.
1:10:36
Speaker 1: They're bored where they're mad that their husband is not
1:10:42
Speaker 1: coming home from his job and doing housework. Night motorcyclist
1:10:53
Speaker 1: says insil in inside intel chime place. Uh and yes,
1:11:02
Speaker 1: the chud king points out, I like Ronald Reagan, but
1:11:04
Speaker 1: he implemented no fault divorce. Yeah, that was that was
1:11:08
Speaker 1: his worst policy. Well, Ronald Reagan also had the Contra scandal.
1:11:13
Speaker 1: I'm not going to explain that. You guys can look
1:11:15
Speaker 1: it up.
1:11:16
Speaker 3: I mention that hearing that, Yeah, yeah he did.
1:11:23
Speaker 1: He did do a little bit of a big government
1:11:26
Speaker 1: bullshit rt we we as great as Reagan was, uh
1:11:33
Speaker 1: economically and and he did keep his promises, he was
1:11:40
Speaker 1: still a big government guy and he did engage in
1:11:43
Speaker 1: big government bullshit. So s.
1:11:48
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, those falcoms. It was what he had
1:11:57
Speaker 3: the second.
1:11:58
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, there's there was some possibility that
1:12:02
Speaker 1: he was not all there during the second term. I
1:12:06
Speaker 1: think that's what made it so easy for people to
1:12:09
Speaker 1: criticize the men who have run in the in the
1:12:14
Speaker 1: last well since Obama. Obviously, if Obama was senile, that
1:12:19
Speaker 1: would be kind of strange considering his youth. It happens
1:12:22
Speaker 1: occasionally Alzheimer's will hit somebody in you know, middle age
1:12:27
Speaker 1: or younger, but normally you don't even see any evidence
1:12:31
Speaker 1: till they're in their sixties or seventies, or at least
1:12:36
Speaker 1: you can't recognize it. But as Senior Sticks said, as
1:12:44
Speaker 1: women can marry one oneself, they can divorce oneself. I
1:12:52
Speaker 1: don't know. I think there's a lot of women on
1:12:54
Speaker 1: Twitter who might have already done that on X who
1:12:56
Speaker 1: might have already done that because, like I said, they
1:12:58
Speaker 1: have no personality. So, uh, maybe that's what happened.
1:13:03
Speaker 3: I mean, wasn't herself and a couple of others?
1:13:07
Speaker 1: Did she divorce herself? Is she actually.
1:13:13
Speaker 3: She's grown out a billionaire?
1:13:16
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's funny. You know, the whole self
1:13:19
Speaker 1: partnering thing we used to just call that masturbation is
1:13:21
Speaker 1: pretty simple.
1:13:23
Speaker 2: Who even pays for these ceremonies of women marrying women?
1:13:27
Speaker 2: I'm almost certain it's men.
1:13:29
Speaker 1: Probably their father.
1:13:34
Speaker 3: For herself, be married to herself.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: Well, she's loaded. She got like almost half a million
1:13:41
Speaker 1: dollars from from people for pretending to be a victim.
1:13:45
Speaker 1: So and Emma Watson's loaded, Like that's a that's another
1:13:48
Speaker 1: reason to wanna, you know, not be famous and and
1:13:53
Speaker 1: maybe be comfortable. But you know, I don't know if
1:13:56
Speaker 1: i'd even stay rich for very long. Uh, but that's
1:14:02
Speaker 1: I just put my my my husband in charge of
1:14:05
Speaker 1: the money. I wouldn't have to because he's the head
1:14:07
Speaker 1: of the household anyway. So there we go, we'd stay rich.
1:14:11
Speaker 1: But the self partnering thing, that is the ultimate act
1:14:16
Speaker 1: of narcissism, right, Well, it's the problem isn't me that
1:14:21
Speaker 1: other people don't like me, it's everybody else. So I'm
1:14:23
Speaker 1: gonna marry myself to prove to you all that the
1:14:26
Speaker 1: problem is you, not me, Right, That's that's bullshit. But
1:14:33
Speaker 1: but yeah, she's this woman brings up divorce rates. Well,
1:14:39
Speaker 1: the divorce rates are driven by women. The divorce rates,
1:14:44
Speaker 1: in fact, are driven by a phenomenon among women that
1:14:50
Speaker 1: women don't even know they're doing to themselves, manufactured misery,
1:14:58
Speaker 1: self torture. I uh, I look around my apartment right now,
1:15:07
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't show you, guys, what it looks like.
1:15:10
Speaker 1: It is a mess. It is. We've got shit everywhere,
1:15:15
Speaker 1: not literal shit, but we've got stuff everywhere. And a
1:15:18
Speaker 1: lot of it's stuff that came home from my parents'
1:15:21
Speaker 1: house when, uh, when they passed away, well shortly before.
1:15:28
Speaker 1: But there's quite a bit of stuff that we've collected
1:15:35
Speaker 1: over the years that we're keeping, you know, until we
1:15:39
Speaker 1: move into a bigger place, or that we're we've been
1:15:44
Speaker 1: keeping temporarily for some other reason. So the mess goes
1:15:49
Speaker 1: and comes. It changes over time, and sometimes it's nice
1:15:54
Speaker 1: and neat and tidy, and other times it looks like
1:15:56
Speaker 1: a hoarder house. And uh, if I decided that I
1:16:04
Speaker 1: was going to set an unrealistic standard for being able
1:16:08
Speaker 1: to do those things and have a neat and tidy
1:16:12
Speaker 1: apartment in the process, I'd be miserable. I'd be absolutely
1:16:17
Speaker 1: hate it and be looking around going, we can't live
1:16:19
Speaker 1: like this, this is crazy, right. But I didn't set
1:16:25
Speaker 1: that standard because I know, right some of this stuff
1:16:28
Speaker 1: it's gonna be gone next week. Some of the stuff
1:16:32
Speaker 1: there's gonna be other stuff in its place. Some of
1:16:34
Speaker 1: it there's not in Some spaces are going to be
1:16:37
Speaker 1: empty for a month and or two or three and
1:16:40
Speaker 1: then have stuff in them again, and it's all stuff
1:16:45
Speaker 1: that's important at the time, so there's no reason to
1:16:49
Speaker 1: get heated about it. It is the way things are,
1:16:55
Speaker 1: and so you deal with the way things are, not
1:16:57
Speaker 1: the way you want to be. Clean around it, clean it,
1:16:59
Speaker 1: clean under it, good to go. But a lot of
1:17:06
Speaker 1: women really get upset about stuff like that. A lot
1:17:11
Speaker 1: of women get upset if the dishes are in the
1:17:15
Speaker 1: sink for a whole day before they get washed, and
1:17:19
Speaker 1: they don't want to wash them. They want somebody else
1:17:22
Speaker 1: to do it, but they don't want to have to ask.
1:17:25
Speaker 1: My dishes can sit in the sink for three days
1:17:28
Speaker 1: before they get washed, and everybody knows if nobody else
1:17:36
Speaker 1: touches them, I will wash them, and it will not
1:17:39
Speaker 1: bother me at all that nobody else did it while
1:17:42
Speaker 1: I was working overtime. That's I'm happy in that situation
1:17:50
Speaker 1: because I have the thing that is the absolute most important.
1:17:55
Speaker 1: My family is still intact. We're in contact with each other,
1:17:59
Speaker 1: we have regular communication, and we enjoy that communication and
1:18:05
Speaker 1: that togetherness, that thing, that unity is way more important
1:18:11
Speaker 1: than any environmental change, any possession I might have any
1:18:17
Speaker 1: anything like that. So I'm happy because I have prioritized
1:18:21
Speaker 1: something that I could contribute to maintaining. Very important. A
1:18:32
Speaker 1: lot of women are miserable because they prioritize things that
1:18:36
Speaker 1: they're not even willing to contribute to maintaining, and they
1:18:42
Speaker 1: refuse to contribute to the maintenance of the relationships that
1:18:47
Speaker 1: they are in with the members of their family, and
1:18:50
Speaker 1: then they don't understand why those relationships fall apart. They
1:18:54
Speaker 1: don't fall apart. You tore yourself out of it before
1:18:59
Speaker 1: you got to That, more than anything, influences the way
1:19:07
Speaker 1: they perceive marriage. That unwillingness I won't do anything more
1:19:14
Speaker 1: as a wife than I would as a single woman.
1:19:17
Speaker 1: That influences the way they perceive marriage. I don't want
1:19:23
Speaker 1: marriage to be any work at all. That influences the
1:19:26
Speaker 1: way they perceive marriage. Media movies and real life examples
1:19:36
Speaker 1: of friends going through messy divorces play a part in
1:19:39
Speaker 1: this perspective too. It's perfectly natural to question the stability
1:19:44
Speaker 1: of modern relationships and the longevity of marriages. Why put
1:19:49
Speaker 1: a ring on it when there seems to be a
1:19:51
Speaker 1: trend of temporary love and parting ways That sounds like
1:19:54
Speaker 1: they're talking to the guy, because a woman almost never
1:19:57
Speaker 1: puts a ring on it until they put the wedding
1:20:00
Speaker 1: band on him. And you know, there's there's a big difference, right,
1:20:06
Speaker 1: the guy's supposed to shell out this huge amount of
1:20:08
Speaker 1: money for a gemstone, or she's still fair game for everybody.
1:20:16
Speaker 1: And she she can sleep around, she can date, she
1:20:20
Speaker 1: can maybe be taken away from him. Blah blah blah.
1:20:26
Speaker 1: We weren't going to do an engagement ring. I didn't
1:20:28
Speaker 1: really want to wear a fancy ring with a gymstone
1:20:32
Speaker 1: on it. The kind of work I do, that's not
1:20:36
Speaker 1: really appropriate attire. So I would have had to be
1:20:43
Speaker 1: taking it off and putting it on all the time, right,
1:20:45
Speaker 1: But we ended up having to have something because every
1:20:53
Speaker 1: time somebody flirted with me and I said, oh I'm engaged,
1:20:57
Speaker 1: no you're not. You don't have a ring. If he
1:21:00
Speaker 1: didn't care enough to give you a ring, then I'm
1:21:02
Speaker 1: going to try to take you away like that. I'm
1:21:05
Speaker 1: the one that said no ring. I didn't want to ring.
1:21:09
Speaker 1: So we ended up like he he and our daughters,
1:21:14
Speaker 1: you know, went out and and looked and picked something
1:21:18
Speaker 1: and and so I wore that until we got married,
1:21:23
Speaker 1: and now I wear a wedding band. And if women
1:21:27
Speaker 1: were sensible like that more often like we didn't. We
1:21:31
Speaker 1: didn't spend thousands of dollars on a on a gemstone.
1:21:39
Speaker 1: We got actually got it, I say we. They got
1:21:42
Speaker 1: it at the Renaissance Fair, the Ohio Renaissance Fair, and
1:21:47
Speaker 1: and it was, if I remember correctly, less than one hundred,
1:21:55
Speaker 1: which is what I wanted if we were going to
1:21:57
Speaker 1: do something like that, I didn't want a bunch of
1:21:59
Speaker 1: money waste std on something that I was only gonna
1:22:01
Speaker 1: wear until you know, we tied the knot, because it's
1:22:08
Speaker 1: bullshit to waste a bunch of money on something that
1:22:11
Speaker 1: you're not going to wear like that. But it's really
1:22:17
Speaker 1: insane in my opinion, this tradition, and it was honestly
1:22:23
Speaker 1: not it's not that old, right. Women used to bring
1:22:30
Speaker 1: something into the marriage. The man didn't used to have
1:22:33
Speaker 1: to give her jewelry to win her hand in marriage.
1:22:37
Speaker 1: There was no rule that you had to spend what
1:22:40
Speaker 1: is it two or three months salary or some shit
1:22:44
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, three Yeah, that's that's crazy. That is insane.
1:22:50
Speaker 3: That's like a marketing tactic by the stealers.
1:22:53
Speaker 1: Mm hmm it's specifically by I think I'm pronouncing it
1:23:00
Speaker 1: Rise Bear Beers like the Beers, okay, the Beers Diamond Company,
1:23:08
Speaker 1: jewelry company, and they are the ones that got that started.
1:23:13
Speaker 1: And now everybody's doing it and it's bullshit. It's complete
1:23:18
Speaker 1: nutter bullshit and the smart thing that a woman can do.
1:23:22
Speaker 1: It used to be also by the way that a
1:23:24
Speaker 1: woman brought a dowry with her into in Western culture
1:23:30
Speaker 1: during i want to say, the nineteenth century, it started
1:23:34
Speaker 1: falling out of fashion, and by the twentieth century people
1:23:37
Speaker 1: weren't doing it anymore. But your dowry was was your
1:23:47
Speaker 1: you know, your you're starting money, and that was your
1:23:52
Speaker 1: good start, so that you didn't have a situation where
1:23:56
Speaker 1: both parents had to work. You had deposit and the
1:24:04
Speaker 1: woman wasn't going to have a job necessarily in many
1:24:10
Speaker 1: marriages unless you were poor. Right then the woman might
1:24:13
Speaker 1: have a job. She might be somebody's cleaning lady or
1:24:16
Speaker 1: a cook or a number of other things like that.
1:24:19
Speaker 1: But there was no you bring you bring nothing to
1:24:26
Speaker 1: the table because you are the table kind of conversation.
1:24:30
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until you know that it began to
1:24:34
Speaker 1: be popularized in media that a man should just fall
1:24:39
Speaker 1: head over heels and marry a woman for herself, and
1:24:42
Speaker 1: the dowry shouldn't factor into it. It was a really
1:24:47
Speaker 1: big mistake for women to stop doing that, and as
1:24:52
Speaker 1: women started working, what should have happened is that instead
1:24:55
Speaker 1: of her parents saving up a dowry to send with her,
1:25:02
Speaker 1: women should have started working. Like as soon as you
1:25:06
Speaker 1: can get a job in your teenage years, which in
1:25:11
Speaker 1: the United States right now, in most states, I think
1:25:15
Speaker 1: you have to be sixteen years old to get a
1:25:18
Speaker 1: job without your parents asking an employer to hire you.
1:25:24
Speaker 1: There are special rules for what labor you're allowed to
1:25:28
Speaker 1: do and stuff like that, but you can still have
1:25:30
Speaker 1: a part time job and earn money and put it away,
1:25:33
Speaker 1: and a woman could do that. Say, let's say marriageable
1:25:38
Speaker 1: age is around twenty three years old. Let's see the
1:25:41
Speaker 1: amount of time you would spend in college to get
1:25:44
Speaker 1: a bachelor's you graduate at the age of twenty two,
1:25:48
Speaker 1: if you graduate high school at eighteen, and then maybe
1:25:52
Speaker 1: spend a year engaged and get married at twenty three
1:25:54
Speaker 1: or twenty four years old. If you worked part time
1:25:57
Speaker 1: from sixteen to graduation and full time from graduation to
1:26:03
Speaker 1: twenty three, and sucked most of what you got paid
1:26:07
Speaker 1: into savings accounts or higher interest bearing accounts than that.
1:26:13
Speaker 1: Even just a certificate of deposit periodically, you would save
1:26:19
Speaker 1: up enough to make a pretty solid down payment on
1:26:24
Speaker 1: a house. You'd make it possible on decent credit to
1:26:30
Speaker 1: get a mortgage. If you didn't build a debt and
1:26:36
Speaker 1: you built a savings and you treated that as a dowry.
1:26:41
Speaker 1: As a woman, you'd be invested in your relationship and
1:26:46
Speaker 1: you would be prepared to start a family. And if
1:26:51
Speaker 1: women would think like that, if young women would think
1:26:54
Speaker 1: like that instead of thinking about I want this and
1:26:58
Speaker 1: I want that, instead thinking about what can I do
1:27:05
Speaker 1: for my family before I have them. If they would
1:27:10
Speaker 1: love their husband before they meet him, love their children
1:27:13
Speaker 1: before they conceive them, and plan to be the best
1:27:18
Speaker 1: they can be as a wife and a mother and
1:27:21
Speaker 1: a member of the household, you know they'd be in
1:27:27
Speaker 1: a much better position when they got married. And I
1:27:29
Speaker 1: will bet you the divorce rate would cut just by
1:27:31
Speaker 1: the fact that the woman is invested in a relationship
1:27:36
Speaker 1: in the family. But they don't do that right. They
1:27:40
Speaker 1: come in with one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
1:27:43
Speaker 1: debt that if they don't work for this company for
1:27:46
Speaker 1: four years, they're gonna have to pay themselves, and then
1:27:53
Speaker 1: you know, the husband ends up getting saddled with it.
1:27:58
Speaker 1: So who cares about the ring? Maybe think about.
1:28:04
Speaker 3: The fourth wait in Kentucky's gone down a little bit.
1:28:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, since they started fifty to fifty shared parenting.
1:28:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the fourth rate has gone down like a
1:28:18
Speaker 3: whole lot. Now.
1:28:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you can't take the kids with you,
1:28:22
Speaker 1: you're not justified in asking for exorbitant child support rates.
1:28:26
Speaker 1: I think Kentucky also did away with alimony, at least
1:28:30
Speaker 1: court imposed alimony. So if you're in that situation, the woman.
1:28:38
Speaker 3: Will pay more alimony than mine in Kentucky.
1:28:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they're ear in more. Yeah, but if you're
1:28:48
Speaker 1: in that situation, it's more expensive. It is expensive for
1:28:53
Speaker 1: her to divorce as it is for him. So she says,
1:29:02
Speaker 1: yet again, this isn't to say all marriages are doomed. Well,
1:29:06
Speaker 1: I certainly hope not, because she'd be wrong. We see
1:29:10
Speaker 1: examples of long, happy marriages too. But let's admit it,
1:29:13
Speaker 1: the concept of forever seems to be wavering a bit
1:29:16
Speaker 1: at the current are in the current age? Again, whose
1:29:20
Speaker 1: fault is that is it the people that are filing
1:29:24
Speaker 1: for divorce most often?
1:29:26
Speaker 3: Maybe so it's the man fault, so we hear and
1:29:33
Speaker 3: a Stephen Bartlett's force.
1:29:38
Speaker 1: So reason number four for some women being put off
1:29:40
Speaker 1: by marriage the instability of modern relationships, which in my opinion,
1:29:45
Speaker 1: is women's fault.
1:29:47
Speaker 4: Yes, predominantly.
1:29:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, but remember this is but one perspective of many
1:29:57
Speaker 1: that make up this conversation. On to the next, shall we,
1:30:00
Speaker 1: So this will be our last one for tonight. Longing
1:30:04
Speaker 1: for personal growth, that's.
1:30:14
Speaker 3: When it comes when it comes to women.
1:30:17
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna behave myself. I will
1:30:21
Speaker 1: I will not make an sti joke at this moment
1:30:24
Speaker 1: in time.
1:30:31
Speaker 3: People.
1:30:35
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, A night motorcyclist says, press x it out
1:30:43
Speaker 1: personal growth. Yeah, there's a certain beauty to discovering oneself.
1:30:53
Speaker 4: Oh here we go.
1:30:54
Speaker 1: Oh God, this isn't one of those the joys, the sorrows,
1:30:59
Speaker 1: the passions, the fears.
1:31:03
Speaker 3: It's like women have play roll. They it will speak
1:31:07
Speaker 3: the same yeah.
1:31:11
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, the tired, worn out old metaphors. It's a
1:31:18
Speaker 1: journey that can often feel interrupted or rushed with the
1:31:23
Speaker 1: advent of marriage.
1:31:26
Speaker 3: There your fans, Uh.
1:31:33
Speaker 1: So personal growth ends at marriage. I guess that's that's
1:31:39
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to believe, right, I from based on
1:31:43
Speaker 1: this paragraph that personal again, this is this is probably
1:31:47
Speaker 1: another reason why sixty nine percent of divorce or more
1:31:51
Speaker 1: is initiated by women. It's between sixty nine and eight.
1:31:55
Speaker 3: I guess what she's trying to say. You can't be
1:31:57
Speaker 3: too content and mauchic because it will squash your personal wife.
1:32:02
Speaker 1: It's the dumbest thing, right, even though I had a
1:32:08
Speaker 1: really good upbringing. I look, I'm gonna compare this to
1:32:11
Speaker 1: myself again because I'm talking about marriage and I'm the
1:32:14
Speaker 1: only legally married person here. But at least that's speaking.
1:32:20
Speaker 1: But I think I had significantly more personal growth because
1:32:30
Speaker 1: I got married to someone that I look up to
1:32:37
Speaker 1: after I got married. I had that personal growth after
1:32:40
Speaker 1: I got married then I did in my adult years
1:32:43
Speaker 1: prior to marriage. Obviously, you have a significant amount during
1:32:47
Speaker 1: your childhood. But personal growth doesn't stop just because you
1:32:55
Speaker 1: partner with somebody. If you're marrying someone who doesn't have
1:33:01
Speaker 1: any traits that you admire, who you don't want to
1:33:04
Speaker 1: learn anything from marrying the wrong person. But yeah, interrupted
1:33:15
Speaker 1: your personal growth is interrupted because you attached yourself forever
1:33:20
Speaker 1: to another person. Many women choose to delay or abstain
1:33:25
Speaker 1: from marriage because they yearn to better themselves, grow as
1:33:28
Speaker 1: an individual, and to reach their full potential before committing
1:33:32
Speaker 1: to someone else. So she has touched on something here
1:33:40
Speaker 1: years ago, and I believe the account is no longer active.
1:33:45
Speaker 1: It might be, but the subreddit that the post is
1:33:50
Speaker 1: in that I'm in about that, I was going to
1:33:52
Speaker 1: talk about that subreddit I think is gone. But the original,
1:34:00
Speaker 1: the red pill subreddit, which was it's not a men's
1:34:05
Speaker 1: rights subreddit. It is a not quite conservative I don't
1:34:12
Speaker 1: know what to call it, but they did they did
1:34:15
Speaker 1: have conservative values. But there was a subreddit for men
1:34:19
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to navigate the modern woke environment.
1:34:25
Speaker 1: There was a user named Whisper that talked very much
1:34:31
Speaker 1: about issues pertaining to relationships and the behavior of women
1:34:41
Speaker 1: and sort of a psycho analysis of the behavior of women.
1:34:46
Speaker 1: And one of the things that he mentioned in a post,
1:34:50
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that other women do that
1:34:52
Speaker 1: don't make sense to me. And there's a lot of
1:34:55
Speaker 1: things that I did when I was in my adult
1:35:00
Speaker 1: teens and early twenties that even just like five years later,
1:35:08
Speaker 1: I looked back at and went, how could I have
1:35:10
Speaker 1: been that stupid? You know, did I drink you know,
1:35:17
Speaker 1: water that had let in it or something? Obviously not
1:35:21
Speaker 1: because it got better. But did I hit my head
1:35:27
Speaker 1: more times than I thought I did? But yeah, he
1:35:32
Speaker 1: was talking about the fact that women in adulthood never
1:35:39
Speaker 1: based on the accountability that society holds you to, what
1:35:42
Speaker 1: your family teaches you and so on. They never reach
1:35:45
Speaker 1: a level of personal accountability, personal growth and adulthood adult
1:35:50
Speaker 1: maturity beyond what a boy is expected to reach by
1:35:56
Speaker 1: the time he is fourteen years old. So you meet
1:36:04
Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old woman, there are levels of
1:36:07
Speaker 1: responsibility for herself and the people around her that she
1:36:12
Speaker 1: doesn't take that if she's in the room with a
1:36:14
Speaker 1: fourteen year old boy, he's expected to take. And it
1:36:23
Speaker 1: only gets worse from there because boys don't stop at fourteen.
1:36:28
Speaker 1: They have more responsibility they take on before they reach adulthood,
1:36:33
Speaker 1: and then a significant amount more after. So it's quite
1:36:42
Speaker 1: quite a gap there between men and women in terms
1:36:45
Speaker 1: of personal growth.
1:36:49
Speaker 2: What's at the point teenage? Girls don't stop opening at fourteen.
1:36:56
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, girls become the gaping mouth
1:36:59
Speaker 2: of a whales shark at quite an early age, whereas
1:37:04
Speaker 2: most men slash boys kind of kind of start their
1:37:09
Speaker 2: peoplet off as someone rather apprehensive, but where they go
1:37:18
Speaker 2: from there depends on what society gives them. And from
1:37:24
Speaker 2: there I can only give you some pretentious poetry and
1:37:29
Speaker 2: I won't bother.
1:37:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you think about you know, A fourteen
1:37:38
Speaker 1: year old boy is already started thinking about what he
1:37:43
Speaker 1: might do to earn money so that he can afford
1:37:48
Speaker 1: to take girls out on dates, right, But a twenty
1:37:54
Speaker 1: year old woman who goes out on dates with men,
1:38:00
Speaker 1: adult men, isn't thinking about paying for dates at all.
1:38:06
Speaker 1: She's not thinking if she does earn money, She's only
1:38:08
Speaker 1: thinking about how she's going to spend it on herself.
1:38:13
Speaker 1: She's not even thinking about saving up or a future family.
1:38:19
Speaker 2: The dead giveaway is the toys with which people play
1:38:24
Speaker 2: like a little goy. I said a little guys just now,
1:38:29
Speaker 2: I'm very sorry. I meant little girls. Little girls like
1:38:33
Speaker 2: to play with dolls with a simulacrum of a baby.
1:38:40
Speaker 2: Little boys like to play with anything else really, like
1:38:45
Speaker 2: soldiers or superheroes or monsters, animals, or anything anything other
1:38:55
Speaker 2: than human beings. Basically and that's maybe that's what's so
1:39:03
Speaker 2: interesting about boys and what's so interesting about girls. Girls
1:39:07
Speaker 2: are hyper interested in these romantic comedy relationships, and boys
1:39:15
Speaker 2: are more hyper interested in relationships that go beyond the
1:39:24
Speaker 2: human And yes, I can see why women find that
1:39:30
Speaker 2: ikey until it ends up creating machines that make their
1:39:37
Speaker 2: lives so much easier. And yeah, that's yeah, that's that
1:39:45
Speaker 2: sort of explains the big old chasm between men and women.
1:39:53
Speaker 4: Well here, here, here's the problem with what I have
1:39:56
Speaker 4: with that. It's not even a paragraph, that sentence right there,
1:39:59
Speaker 4: that that you know, because they yearn to better understand themselves,
1:40:04
Speaker 4: to grow as an individual and reach their full potential
1:40:08
Speaker 4: before committing to someone else. Well, if you have all
1:40:11
Speaker 4: of your potential, then number one, what do you need
1:40:14
Speaker 4: with somebody else? Right, You're you're already doing the damn thing.
1:40:18
Speaker 4: You are your own individual person. So what do you
1:40:21
Speaker 4: need with somebody else? What can you contribute to their
1:40:24
Speaker 4: lives or they to yours and vice versa. Right, But
1:40:28
Speaker 4: that's that's not the biggest thing here. I take issue
1:40:34
Speaker 4: with the idea of full potential. Well, what do you
1:40:40
Speaker 4: think your full potential is? Right? Like that is it's
1:40:49
Speaker 4: it's it's an individualistic type of thing. It's not it's
1:40:53
Speaker 4: not one size fits.
1:40:55
Speaker 1: All, right, it might not even be static correct.
1:41:00
Speaker 4: Correct. And here's the other thing, right, you know, there
1:41:05
Speaker 4: was I forget who the comedian was, who you know
1:41:10
Speaker 4: made this this this statement, but it's you know, it
1:41:15
Speaker 4: might have been like Bill Burge or anyway. The statement
1:41:20
Speaker 4: goes like, you know, you shouldn't teach your kids to
1:41:26
Speaker 4: go for their dreams, right, because they might dream to
1:41:31
Speaker 4: be an astronaut when they are sitting there picking their nose,
1:41:35
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, they're just not fully capable
1:41:39
Speaker 4: of reaching this unattainable goal, right, And that's that's part
1:41:45
Speaker 4: of the role of parents is to try to steer
1:41:48
Speaker 4: your kids in the proper direction because they don't know
1:41:51
Speaker 4: what the fuck is going on. They have no idea
1:41:53
Speaker 4: what reality is really like. Once you are on your
1:41:57
Speaker 4: own and you're a fully realized, a old you know
1:42:01
Speaker 4: who now has to provide for themselves and not destroy society.
1:42:09
Speaker 4: But you know, it's like, what is your potential? And
1:42:16
Speaker 4: are you being realistic about what you think your potential
1:42:19
Speaker 4: is or are you just trying to, you know, keep
1:42:22
Speaker 4: up with the Johnsons. You know, you see your girlfriends
1:42:25
Speaker 4: having this thing or that car, or this job or
1:42:29
Speaker 4: that husband, and your assumption that is, well, if I
1:42:35
Speaker 4: can't do the same things, then I'm not as good
1:42:38
Speaker 4: as this person. And so you know, I have to
1:42:42
Speaker 4: go out and strive to be the best. And you
1:42:44
Speaker 4: know who women are fighting. They're fighting themselves in some
1:42:55
Speaker 4: kind of you know, nonexistent war.
1:43:01
Speaker 3: Just to.
1:43:02
Speaker 4: Obtain things that they feel are status symbols, which really
1:43:07
Speaker 4: it's just be this big boss bitch. And you think
1:43:11
Speaker 4: that that's your potential to be some CEO, we'll do that.
1:43:16
Speaker 4: Go do that and see how that fits your life
1:43:20
Speaker 4: in maybe twenty thirty years down the road, when all
1:43:23
Speaker 4: you've done is spend your time working at this career
1:43:27
Speaker 4: and you may have this successful job, and you may
1:43:30
Speaker 4: have all of this money and be able to do
1:43:33
Speaker 4: all of these things, and you know, hey, that's great.
1:43:36
Speaker 4: There are some people who will look at you and
1:43:39
Speaker 4: be envious of what you have. Meanwhile, they're looking at
1:43:43
Speaker 4: you with your husband and your children and your lifestyle,
1:43:49
Speaker 4: and man, I really just wish I didn't have all
1:43:52
Speaker 4: of these burdens that come with being a CEO, like
1:43:56
Speaker 4: you know, time management and you know, constantly having to
1:44:01
Speaker 4: answer to other people.
1:44:03
Speaker 3: You know.
1:44:04
Speaker 4: There's this idea that once you're a CEO, that you
1:44:06
Speaker 4: don't have to answer to anybody, But no, you have
1:44:10
Speaker 4: employees that are constantly, you know, looking to you for
1:44:14
Speaker 4: guidance and instruction. You know, it's so and it's it
1:44:22
Speaker 4: just becomes this trade off. And I think that we
1:44:27
Speaker 4: sell women short by we now because we don't do this.
1:44:32
Speaker 4: Women are being sold short by making them believe that
1:44:36
Speaker 4: they have to fulfill all of these They have to
1:44:38
Speaker 4: tick all of these boxes and you know, be some
1:44:43
Speaker 4: I have to do everything I have to be, you know,
1:44:45
Speaker 4: I have to be a manager or in management, and
1:44:47
Speaker 4: I have to have the kids and the and the
1:44:49
Speaker 4: husband and the white picket fence and all of that.
1:44:52
Speaker 4: And they're barely meanwhile, And this is why women are
1:44:55
Speaker 4: so unhappy, like they are barely keeping it all together
1:44:58
Speaker 4: because it is stressful.
1:45:00
Speaker 6: You know.
1:45:01
Speaker 4: They take on the responsibilities of both gender dynamics, and
1:45:09
Speaker 4: they fail at most of them, you know, and then
1:45:12
Speaker 4: they wonder why they don't feel fulfilled. Well, if you
1:45:17
Speaker 4: had just shifted your focus onto one thing that you
1:45:21
Speaker 4: could actually control, you know, and be an active part of,
1:45:28
Speaker 4: and not just well, you know it's eight o'clock, I
1:45:33
Speaker 4: have to go to work. Your nanny is gonna come
1:45:35
Speaker 4: and pay attention to you for the rest of the day.
1:45:38
Speaker 4: Then you're failing at being a mother.
1:45:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very much. This is a thing. You can't
1:45:45
Speaker 1: have real fulfillment without real values. Yes, right, So I
1:45:53
Speaker 1: think what happens with a lot of women. You know,
1:45:57
Speaker 1: you could find a way to give a woman the
1:46:05
Speaker 1: entire world, and she would say, there's got to be
1:46:10
Speaker 1: something more. I want something more. You could give her
1:46:14
Speaker 1: the entire solar system and she'd say, there's got to
1:46:18
Speaker 1: be something more. You could give her the whole universe. Well,
1:46:22
Speaker 1: there's got to be something more. I don't understand. I'm
1:46:24
Speaker 1: not satisfied. I don't feel fulfilled. Give her the multiverse,
1:46:31
Speaker 1: and she would not feel fulfilled unless she actually grew
1:46:37
Speaker 1: up where in a environment where she was able to
1:46:42
Speaker 1: develop and learn strong values, good values.
1:46:49
Speaker 4: I mean that, and I mean.
1:46:53
Speaker 1: It's fundamental happiness. You don't find happiness. You make happiness.
1:46:58
Speaker 1: It's not something that falls on you. You could winning
1:47:01
Speaker 1: the lottery will not make you happy, no, right, Getting
1:47:06
Speaker 1: your dream job will not make you happy. Being romanced
1:47:12
Speaker 1: will not make you happy getting uh, you know, the
1:47:16
Speaker 1: the best accord or accolade from from the best public
1:47:23
Speaker 1: awards ceremony in the world for for the best thing
1:47:28
Speaker 1: that you can be congratulated for will not make you happy.
1:47:34
Speaker 1: Nothing outside of yourself will ever make you happy. You
1:47:39
Speaker 1: make happiness, and you you have to base that on
1:47:44
Speaker 1: something you It needs a foundation. If you don't have
1:47:48
Speaker 1: a foundation for that happiness, you cannot build it.
1:47:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know. And it's it's just what they
1:47:59
Speaker 4: what everybody always says, which is absolutely true. Anything worth
1:48:04
Speaker 4: having is worth working for. And when you live your
1:48:09
Speaker 4: whole life with everything just being handed to you, you
1:48:12
Speaker 4: do not understand the value of what it is that
1:48:16
Speaker 4: you've been given. Yeah, and so you know, it's ah, man,
1:48:25
Speaker 4: I just.
1:48:26
Speaker 1: I just.
1:48:28
Speaker 4: Have a hard time finding sympathy for these lonely women
1:48:32
Speaker 4: who you know, they they just spend this like like
1:48:36
Speaker 4: we've been saying, you know, they spend their youth, uh, frivolously.
1:48:43
Speaker 4: And then when you know that that clock starts ticking,
1:48:46
Speaker 4: they're looking at you know, the cultest guy around them.
1:48:49
Speaker 4: And again it's just not it's not the way you're
1:48:53
Speaker 4: supposed to go about things. If you want, if you
1:48:57
Speaker 4: want that traditional life style and let's call it exactly
1:49:03
Speaker 4: what it is, a man and a woman have being
1:49:06
Speaker 4: married and having children and raising a family. That is traditional.
1:49:11
Speaker 4: Yeah right, And so you can't try to embody this
1:49:16
Speaker 4: person who is doing things. I want to be exceptional.
1:49:21
Speaker 4: I want to do something very extra, double special, and
1:49:27
Speaker 4: think that you know something is not going to suffer
1:49:31
Speaker 4: and it's just, you know, I don't. I don't know
1:49:41
Speaker 4: what to do with these people because they're just it's
1:49:45
Speaker 4: like it's almost like no matter what they try to do,
1:49:48
Speaker 4: no matter what they try to achieve, they're never going
1:49:51
Speaker 4: to be happy with what they have because they're always
1:49:54
Speaker 4: looking at what they don't have.
1:49:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:49:58
Speaker 1: In fact, look at the first thing she meant, as
1:50:01
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm going to get back to the
1:50:03
Speaker 1: full potential thing too, because that bothers me. The line
1:50:07
Speaker 1: and the idea of reaching your full potential in your
1:50:15
Speaker 1: whole life, right, You should never treat reaching your full
1:50:21
Speaker 1: potential as a stopping point. What your full potential is
1:50:27
Speaker 1: in the moment is not the same as it will
1:50:32
Speaker 1: be when you reach the level that is your full
1:50:36
Speaker 1: potential right now, because every time you improve, you increase
1:50:44
Speaker 1: your potential. You pick up skills, you pick up knowledge,
1:50:48
Speaker 1: you pick up strength, and you know eventually, oh no,
1:50:53
Speaker 1: it's somebody who's got sound with a bunch of exclamation points.
1:50:57
Speaker 1: Is Richard Beer? Richard Beer cannot hear us? That would
1:50:59
Speaker 1: be the YouTube chat? Can the rumble chat hear us? Okay?
1:51:10
Speaker 1: And I I don't know if everybody else can't hear,
1:51:12
Speaker 1: but it's doing that, okay, yeah, okay, so yeah, rumbles
1:51:22
Speaker 1: confirming they can hear. So, yeah, you you improve over
1:51:29
Speaker 1: and over again over time, and you know, maybe maybe
1:51:35
Speaker 1: you do reach a point in your life where you
1:51:37
Speaker 1: start slowing down on some things that you're doing, but
1:51:44
Speaker 1: you substitute other things. Okay, So it's there's others saying
1:51:48
Speaker 1: YouTube is fine too good. Thanks guys for for making
1:51:55
Speaker 1: sure we know. But but yeah, it's to say, oh you,
1:52:04
Speaker 1: I've reached my full potential. It's not a stopping point.
1:52:08
Speaker 1: You always want to try to learn new things and
1:52:13
Speaker 1: try new things and improve your overall performance at the
1:52:18
Speaker 1: things that you're passionate about, especially in your role as
1:52:24
Speaker 1: a member of your family and a partner in your marriage.
1:52:28
Speaker 1: You know, you try to do better tomorrow than you
1:52:31
Speaker 1: did yesterday, and next week than you did last week.
1:52:35
Speaker 1: You don't want to go downhill, and you don't want
1:52:37
Speaker 1: to plateau. You want to increase and and you know,
1:52:42
Speaker 1: there's some things that you'll become comfortable in, and there's
1:52:47
Speaker 1: other things that you want to you know, do differently
1:52:51
Speaker 1: or more fun or fancier or you know whatever, kinder
1:52:59
Speaker 1: and and so on, And that shouldn't change. That should
1:53:03
Speaker 1: be a stable factor in your life that you're always
1:53:06
Speaker 1: striving for improvement, and there's always even room for self improvement.
1:53:13
Speaker 1: You never reach perfection as a person. There's always work
1:53:18
Speaker 1: to be done, and that is part of what keeps
1:53:23
Speaker 1: you mentally active and alive. And when you hit a
1:53:29
Speaker 1: point where you think you're perfect and there's nothing left
1:53:33
Speaker 1: for you to seek, you are going to become discontent
1:53:38
Speaker 1: because you're not doing what you evolved to do, which
1:53:42
Speaker 1: is always striving to expand your potential and improve your
1:53:50
Speaker 1: character and your skills and your performance as a human being.
1:53:57
Speaker 1: What she's talking about here, whether it's traveling solo to
1:54:01
Speaker 1: different corners of the world. Every time I travel solo
1:54:08
Speaker 1: to a different corner of the world, I miss my husband.
1:54:13
Speaker 1: I don't want to travel solo. I do it sometimes
1:54:16
Speaker 1: because it's necessary, but always there's always stuff I would
1:54:22
Speaker 1: love to show him and experience with him and not
1:54:26
Speaker 1: by myself, you know, or at least not without him.
1:54:30
Speaker 1: And it it I don't understand wanting to make it
1:54:37
Speaker 1: exclusive like that. Everything that good that you experience in
1:54:43
Speaker 1: your life is even better when someone you love is
1:54:49
Speaker 1: there to experience it with you, and you get to
1:54:52
Speaker 1: to show each other things and share it with each
1:54:55
Speaker 1: other and enjoy seeing each other's responses to it. And
1:55:00
Speaker 1: and you get to see the person that you love
1:55:05
Speaker 1: enjoying something that you are enjoying, and you get to
1:55:09
Speaker 1: see their happiness, and that should make you happy, you know,
1:55:15
Speaker 1: even though it's not an external factor, it's because you
1:55:22
Speaker 1: value your relationship and you value that person and you
1:55:29
Speaker 1: value that person's experiences, so you want them to be happy,
1:55:34
Speaker 1: and it brings you happiness because you've placed a priority
1:55:39
Speaker 1: on that, just like you take satisfaction in a job
1:55:43
Speaker 1: well done because you've placed a priority on that. So
1:55:48
Speaker 1: when she says stuff like that to me, that's a
1:55:55
Speaker 1: person that's shallower than a two way mirror. That's you.
1:56:03
Speaker 1: You can tell a mirror is is two way, and
1:56:06
Speaker 1: someone's looking back at you from the other side. If
1:56:08
Speaker 1: you if you put your finger up to it and
1:56:11
Speaker 1: you touch the mirror and there's not sort of a
1:56:15
Speaker 1: space in between what you're touching and the reflection. It's
1:56:22
Speaker 1: it's likely a thin piece of glass with you know,
1:56:26
Speaker 1: reflective coating on it that somebody can see through on
1:56:29
Speaker 1: the other side. But anyway, so she she goes on
1:56:36
Speaker 1: pursuing higher education, which you know, that's that's great and all,
1:56:41
Speaker 1: but you don't have to be single to do that.
1:56:45
Speaker 1: Climbing the rungs of their desired career ladder, you don't
1:56:49
Speaker 1: have to be single to do that either, right. You
1:56:53
Speaker 1: know what if you think these women are gonna get
1:56:55
Speaker 1: married and they're gonna reach the top of the corporate
1:56:58
Speaker 1: ladder and then when they get married they're gonna quit.
1:57:03
Speaker 1: But yeah, these women prioritize their personal growth and development.
1:57:08
Speaker 1: But each of these things are not about personal growth
1:57:14
Speaker 1: and development. One is a vacation that you go to,
1:57:21
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy places and things. One is self aggrandizement
1:57:26
Speaker 1: more than anything. If they're not going to maintain it
1:57:30
Speaker 1: after they get married and use it support their family.
1:57:34
Speaker 1: But even if they are, it's just a tool. It's
1:57:37
Speaker 1: not personal growth comes from from character development, not just
1:57:46
Speaker 1: getting a piece of paper that says you deserve certain
1:57:49
Speaker 1: types of jobs and climbing the rungs of a career
1:57:53
Speaker 1: ladder don't make you a good person or a special
1:57:57
Speaker 1: person or anything admirable. Just by the fact that you
1:58:05
Speaker 1: now are supervisor and a supervisor of supervisors and so on,
1:58:10
Speaker 1: head of this department or CEO or whatever. You can
1:58:15
Speaker 1: still be a piece of shit. Youd be a walking
1:58:18
Speaker 1: piece of shit and run a company that has outlets
1:58:22
Speaker 1: all over the country. You could run it into the
1:58:26
Speaker 1: ground too. But she goes on to say the prospect
1:58:34
Speaker 1: of marriage and everything it traditionally entails, can sometimes seem
1:58:39
Speaker 1: like a hindrance to this solo journey of self discovery
1:58:43
Speaker 1: and evolution. She sounds like a fem cell. I can't
1:58:53
Speaker 1: find a partner that wants to accept someone who behaves
1:58:57
Speaker 1: like me. So I'm going to say I'm self partnered,
1:59:04
Speaker 1: and that my friends is our fifth reason, the beautiful
1:59:07
Speaker 1: longing for personal growth. But remember, every woman's journey is unique.
1:59:16
Speaker 1: You're unique, just like everybody else. And this line, this
1:59:23
Speaker 1: list tries to capture the diversity of experiences and feelings. Yeah,
1:59:35
Speaker 1: and and that's why it's so short, right, and the
1:59:39
Speaker 1: the article is so short, and her writing about it
1:59:43
Speaker 1: is so shallow. Yeah, you compare that to say, throw
1:59:55
Speaker 1: going into the woods to commune with God through nature
2:00:01
Speaker 1: and learn about himself, or even the self discovery of
2:00:12
Speaker 1: fictional character that ends up trapped on a deserted island
2:00:18
Speaker 1: or you know, in an abandoned place in the world
2:00:22
Speaker 1: where they that he's gotten lost, or whatever, where the
2:00:24
Speaker 1: character the protagonist is a male. It's always him against nature,
2:00:32
Speaker 1: some difficult thing where he has to learn the limits
2:00:37
Speaker 1: of his strength and his toughness and his endurance, his creativity, ingenuity,
2:00:43
Speaker 1: and so on. When women write about self discovery like
2:00:49
Speaker 1: this and they talk about what they're gaining from the outside,
2:00:56
Speaker 1: not what challenges their overcoming and what they learned learn
2:01:00
Speaker 1: from overcoming those challenges, it sort of feels like you're
2:01:06
Speaker 1: reading the whinings of an entitled little eight year old
2:01:15
Speaker 1: talking about what she wants to get for Christmas. In
2:01:22
Speaker 1: the meantime, I think a lot of what she's actually
2:01:26
Speaker 1: meaning is I want to go travel the world and
2:01:30
Speaker 1: find new and exciting guys my age to fuck.
2:01:35
Speaker 4: She wants a hippopotamus for Christmas.
2:01:38
Speaker 1: She wants to go to university and find new and
2:01:42
Speaker 1: exciting guys. Her age to fuck. Yes, she wants to
2:01:46
Speaker 1: climb the rungs of the desired career letter and fish
2:01:51
Speaker 1: off the company peer before she gets married, run her
2:01:58
Speaker 1: body caught up to about fifty before she gets married.
2:02:02
Speaker 4: That sounds like who's that comedian Akash saying, sounds like
2:02:07
Speaker 4: his wife yep.
2:02:10
Speaker 1: And it's important to point that out because I think
2:02:13
Speaker 1: a lot of women they'll use this kind of flowery
2:02:18
Speaker 1: metaphoric language to describe a self discovery. I was finding myself. Well,
2:02:27
Speaker 1: there you are in some guy's bed.
2:02:30
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
2:02:31
Speaker 1: Oh, there you are in the backseat of some guy's car.
2:02:35
Speaker 1: There you are behind the bleachers.
2:02:37
Speaker 7: In the There she goes again, there you are in
2:02:46
Speaker 7: the janitor's closet at work.
2:02:51
Speaker 1: How the fuck did you get your legs into that position?
2:02:56
Speaker 4: Yoga, and thus prompts my next favorite statement. No matter
2:03:06
Speaker 4: where you go, there you.
2:03:08
Speaker 1: Are, yeah, yeah, yep, No matter where you go. There's
2:03:17
Speaker 1: probably at least one only fans thought filming herself in
2:03:26
Speaker 1: the next room over. But the worst part about it is,
2:03:30
Speaker 1: you know, they're blaming men for women not having babies
2:03:36
Speaker 1: until they're thirty, Well what are these women doing? They
2:03:40
Speaker 1: want to hoe around until they're almost thirty and then
2:03:45
Speaker 1: find some guy to settle down with and nab him
2:03:49
Speaker 1: and then then when he's well, what do you bring
2:03:53
Speaker 1: to the table? I have the table right with my
2:03:57
Speaker 1: fifty body count that I haven't been tested for anything
2:04:02
Speaker 1: in six years and could be carrying, you know, some
2:04:06
Speaker 1: new variant, new antibiotic resistant variant of gonorrhea. But you know,
2:04:15
Speaker 1: I am the table and she is the table because
2:04:19
Speaker 1: she doesn't have any more personality than one.
2:04:24
Speaker 4: Very true, very true.
2:04:29
Speaker 1: And with that, we will put off the last two
2:04:31
Speaker 1: until next week, uh so or three because this was
2:04:35
Speaker 1: number five. So we have six, seven and eight, and
2:04:40
Speaker 1: there's a there's a reason why I keep mentioning fifty.
2:04:43
Speaker 1: I'm not going to bring up who I'm talking about.
2:04:46
Speaker 1: I think I've run that into the ground. But better
2:04:50
Speaker 1: not be fifty, because ah shit, no, no, no, no, no, no,
2:04:55
Speaker 1: it's a woman. It's a woman. And actually there are
2:04:58
Speaker 1: two now think about it, that I could be taking
2:05:01
Speaker 1: jabs then, but both of them and they kind of
2:05:07
Speaker 1: have the same non the same personality in some ways.
2:05:13
Speaker 1: But I met them at different times in my life.
2:05:16
Speaker 1: So but there you go. There you go with that.
2:05:21
Speaker 1: I will thank everybody for listening. I will thank my
2:05:23
Speaker 1: co hosts for going over this bullshit with me. We
2:05:27
Speaker 1: still have numbers six, seven, and eight to read next week,
2:05:32
Speaker 1: so hopefully you guys will come back and and discuss.
2:05:37
Speaker 1: Oh I have to read this out. Jay Oballs says,
2:05:41
Speaker 1: the table is to be on all fours and silent.
2:05:47
Speaker 4: I like that, man, don't objectify me.
2:05:51
Speaker 1: I am the table. Thanks Brian for working hard in
2:05:57
Speaker 1: the background to make sure everything happens, and coming in
2:05:59
Speaker 1: our tonight to make sure we were able to have
2:06:03
Speaker 1: our cartoons talking and good night all, good.
2:06:08
Speaker 4: Night, y'all.
2:06:09
Speaker 6: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
2:06:15
Speaker 6: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
2:06:19
Speaker 6: deal with, especially if you have like especially if you
2:06:21
Speaker 6: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
2:06:23
Speaker 6: On top of that too, Holy shit, you're fucked.