Latest / The Breakfast Club / The Breakfast Club REWIND (Royce Da 5'9" & Courtney Bell, Cheryl McKissack & Don Peebles, Joey Badass and More)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good morning usca yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:03Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:04Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:06Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo Yo. I'm DJ Envy Now nobody
- 0:11Speaker 1: name is Charlotmagne, the guy with the world most dangerous morning.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Yore to Breakfast Club and currently we are on vacation, man,
- 0:16Speaker 1: totally disconnected. Yes, we're not even really here. You think
- 0:19Speaker 1: you're listening to us, but we're not. Well, we are not.
- 0:21Speaker 1: We're here in spirit. Yeah. Yeah, and we're gonna be
- 0:25Speaker 1: playing some of our top interviews and some throwbacks, so
- 0:28Speaker 1: keep a lock right, it's gonna be running the boards
- 0:30Speaker 1: and we'll see you in the new year. It's the
- 0:32Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning. Yes, this is your time to
- 0:35Speaker 1: get it off your chest. Whether you're man black, from
- 0:39Speaker 1: you on the Breakfast Club. You got something on your mom? Hello?
- 0:43Speaker 1: Who's this? Good morning? This is Sandra. Oh my god,
- 0:46Speaker 1: I can't believe my day school. I'm so excited to
- 0:48Speaker 1: talk to you guys. Thank Sandraw, guys. Good morning, you
- 0:51Speaker 1: guys the epitome of Black VII. You guys are great.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Ah man, thank you Sandraw. I just hope to get
- 0:59Speaker 1: off my tip guy. I think siding was wrong for
- 1:02Speaker 1: JEF getting DG out. I think they should have fought
- 1:05Speaker 1: harder to get the marine out. He fought for our country.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't an even trade. I give it
- 1:12Speaker 1: one hundred percent, but I just think he should have
- 1:14Speaker 1: fought harder to people for about I don't disagree. You know,
- 1:18Speaker 1: I'm happy BG as home, but I don't disagree. That's
- 1:21Speaker 1: all I have to say. But thank you guys. Yes,
- 1:23Speaker 1: many a great day. Thank you so much. Hello. Who's this?
- 1:28Speaker 1: What's our interviews up to? Say? Ye? What's listen to?
- 1:32Speaker 1: Good morning, Jane? What's so sorry? What up? Says? How you?
- 1:36Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Listen to y'all and justice. It is
- 1:39Speaker 1: finally being brought to the light that happened to me, y'all,
- 1:42Speaker 1: what happened? What happened? So remember I told y'all a
- 1:46Speaker 1: couple of years back about the retro laps, about what
- 1:50Speaker 1: never mind, what happened? That Roland Ray has scammed me
- 1:54Speaker 1: out of eighty five dollars, and y'all the same room
- 1:57Speaker 1: finally brought it to the light that he was scammed
- 2:00Speaker 1: and then he had hit scammer people. You don't know
- 2:02Speaker 1: how you still all get him getting scam Now? How
- 2:04Speaker 1: did he scam? How you scare me? Why would you
- 2:06Speaker 1: send him eighty five dollars? Because I paid him eighty
- 2:08Speaker 1: five dollars. I told all this. I paid him man
- 2:11Speaker 1: eighty five dollars to post me for this thing that
- 2:14Speaker 1: has gone like on the LGBT community. He had like
- 2:17Speaker 1: a bunch of like gay and like you know LGDD followers,
- 2:20Speaker 1: and he took my money. It just disappaid her. And
- 2:24Speaker 1: they did an investigation on him yesterday and lock him
- 2:27Speaker 1: up and bring me to testify because I'm smistering. I'm
- 2:30Speaker 1: telling on him. Yeah, we're gonna report that story next year.
- 2:32Speaker 1: It says Rolling Ray aka the most famous boy in
- 2:35Speaker 1: the wheelchair, has been accused by several social media users
- 2:38Speaker 1: of being a scammer here a scammera and I'm I'm
- 2:42Speaker 1: smistering on him. Please block them up. Allegedly. Allegedly, they
- 2:47Speaker 1: claimed that uh people pay him for shoutouts seventy six
- 2:51Speaker 1: dollars to one hundred dollars for shoutouts, but after sending
- 2:53Speaker 1: them the money, they said he took their cash and
- 2:56Speaker 1: rolled out. Salute the Rolling Ray Man, Salute the Rolling
- 3:01Speaker 1: Ray rolling Ray out head hustling man dropping the clues
- 3:03Speaker 1: bombs for Rolling Ray man. Don't man, Rolling Ray out
- 3:08Speaker 1: head hustling man. You know what I'm saying, y'all bothering
- 3:10Speaker 1: that man for shoutouts? You know what I mean? I
- 3:12Speaker 1: need to be charging y'all for shoutouts. I'm not mad
- 3:14Speaker 1: at rolling y go ahead, Rolling Ray. Do you thing,
- 3:16Speaker 1: bromp when you're reporting, you know somebody personally who he cam?
- 3:21Speaker 1: It's not all lead Rolling reins came and nobody y'all
- 3:24Speaker 1: asking that man for shout out for him, he'll get
- 3:26Speaker 1: He'll get to it when he get to it. He
- 3:27Speaker 1: get to it, that's right, guy, he's his man. He'll
- 3:29Speaker 1: get the shout y'all out when you get to it.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Huh but a year? Sorry, well he backed up clearly
- 3:35Speaker 1: he got a long log. He gotta roll up on
- 3:37Speaker 1: you soon. Don't worry about it by mad at that man,
- 3:41Speaker 1: bothering that man for shoutouts. Man, Hello, who's this? It's
- 3:45Speaker 1: your bail from Houston, touches O'Neil from ah ten. What
- 3:49Speaker 1: up getting off her chests? Brother? Yeah, I want to
- 3:51Speaker 1: give a shout out to my boy dj R Penny
- 3:54Speaker 1: aka d j empty on a good season one episode
- 3:58Speaker 1: eight of East Who Yak Your Man? Thank you brother.
- 4:03Speaker 1: You know. I was excited to do that. And uh,
- 4:04Speaker 1: they're gonna bring me back. I think I'm on the
- 4:07Speaker 1: first episode in the new year, and hopefully they bring
- 4:09Speaker 1: me back for some other stuff. Man, I'm excited about it. Man,
- 4:11Speaker 1: I love that series. The show is really good. If
- 4:13Speaker 1: you haven't seen, it's called East New York because on CBS.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Great show. And I'm just excited. Definitely said he's snitching.
- 4:20Speaker 1: He definitely gonna snitch the next episode. I held it
- 4:22Speaker 1: down the first episode. So they're gonna break them they
- 4:24Speaker 1: ain't breaking. Yeah. Well, Also, I want to say that
- 4:28Speaker 1: hip hop homicide that's also good with man, it's hip
- 4:33Speaker 1: hop homicide, I say. I say homicide is the same
- 4:37Speaker 1: way where you from. I'm from Louis He has a
- 4:41Speaker 1: sovereign thing, I guess because I say hip hop homicide too.
- 4:44Speaker 1: But it's homicide. Hey, that's one of the best shows
- 4:46Speaker 1: on TV. Man, Swow the Van Lending and fifty cent
- 4:49Speaker 1: Scott Young. Yes, that's one of the best shows on television. Man. Yeah,
- 4:52Speaker 1: this week they're gonna be diving into the murder of
- 4:55Speaker 1: X x X attention and uh it's and then after
- 5:00Speaker 1: that they're gonna do MO three from Dallas. Uh, and
- 5:03Speaker 1: then they're gonna do uh damn, I don't want to
- 5:06Speaker 1: say his name wrong, uh FBG Duck Yeah O with Chicago, right,
- 5:10Speaker 1: I gotta play. And they're gonna do one on pick
- 5:12Speaker 1: off two well or not this year because those are
- 5:15Speaker 1: the last three that they got XXX attention on, uh
- 5:18Speaker 1: MO three and FBG Duck. But like I said, the
- 5:23Speaker 1: way that you know so many of our our hip
- 5:25Speaker 1: hop stars are passing and being killed, I mean this show.
- 5:28Speaker 1: If you like how they do the show, there is
- 5:31Speaker 1: because because the show addresses like all the socioeconomic conditions
- 5:35Speaker 1: that lead to things like this happening. They deal with
- 5:37Speaker 1: people's trauma. They deal with a lot of these brothers
- 5:40Speaker 1: hurt and anger, so it's not just exploitation of a murder,
- 5:43Speaker 1: you know, correct, And they talk to the right people
- 5:46Speaker 1: of family members, people involved, police officers, uh, special agents, friends, pastors,
- 5:53Speaker 1: and then they try to get a solution of why.
- 5:55Speaker 1: You know, hopefully this can be solved and stopped. And
- 5:58Speaker 1: maybe it's a good show, but y'all job yeah, y'll
- 6:00Speaker 1: need to keep watching it up for people that ain't watching.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I ain't gonna give too much about it, but hey,
- 6:04Speaker 1: it's a good show, right and you can stream it
- 6:06Speaker 1: on all Black. Uh. And they got all the episodes
- 6:09Speaker 1: up there. Shout the van laid the man he didn't.
- 6:10Speaker 1: He does an amazing job on that show. All right, man,
- 6:13Speaker 1: y'all have to aver good morning, peace King, Get it
- 6:15Speaker 1: off your chess. It's the Breakfast Local Morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Get it off your chess. Hey, I just want to
- 6:23Speaker 1: get off my chest, man. I just want to get
- 6:25Speaker 1: you getting both you and Charlotte Bank you guys flowers
- 6:28Speaker 1: actually because honestly, you know, y'all push you know, y'all
- 6:31Speaker 1: help me, help me push through a whole summer, like
- 6:33Speaker 1: you know, just like listening to we all every day
- 6:35Speaker 1: and it's also just doing you know, during school and
- 6:37Speaker 1: all all stuff. And I just want to give you
- 6:39Speaker 1: all both, y'all, y'all flowers, you know, the Mountain Man
- 6:42Speaker 1: and all stuff like you know, y'all really like you know,
- 6:44Speaker 1: give you know, give a lot of motivation for me
- 6:46Speaker 1: and all stuff. And it's like you know, and a
- 6:48Speaker 1: lot of laughter. Two Also, I don't want to give
- 6:49Speaker 1: you all, y'all flowers and all say thank you, thank you,
- 6:53Speaker 1: appreciate that, appreciate you, brob yeah because show yeah, y'all
- 6:56Speaker 1: have a good morning. Now. Hello, who's this going on?
- 7:00Speaker 1: As Sean? What I'm getting off your chest? Man? I
- 7:03Speaker 1: want to get it off my chest this morning. First
- 7:06Speaker 1: of all, I live say good morning, Salomon, good morning.
- 7:08Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, good morning for its
- 7:11Speaker 1: I do on the day, do good. I'm doing good man,
- 7:15Speaker 1: I'm celebrating my birthday. You know what I'm saying. So
- 7:18Speaker 1: I'm bled right now. Man, I'm on board in the
- 7:20Speaker 1: world castually, you know. I you know, I want to
- 7:23Speaker 1: let down O. Man, I really appreciate l in the morning, town.
- 7:26Speaker 1: I appreciate that little get to the day man, like
- 7:29Speaker 1: in the morning palm man that you know what I'm saying,
- 7:31Speaker 1: y'all tell me that that that that coach. You know
- 7:33Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You can give me do the day that.
- 7:35Speaker 1: I appreciate that, I think King, Yeah, sir, and Sean.
- 7:39Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about your book too, Man.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Can I get is it any way? Pop? I can
- 7:43Speaker 1: get a copy of it. I don't have any at
- 7:46Speaker 1: the current moments. I have to get a new shipment
- 7:49Speaker 1: of Black Privilege as ship Corning. But as soon as
- 7:52Speaker 1: I get them, I can get your information. We can
- 7:54Speaker 1: send it out of the later date. But I can't
- 7:56Speaker 1: send you a Black Effect snapback right now. You know
- 7:59Speaker 1: my podcast that were Black Effect. I can send you
- 8:01Speaker 1: that right now. Oh yeah, that's dope, Yes, sir, I
- 8:03Speaker 1: appreciate the hold on. Yeah, Taylor red one of y'all
- 8:07Speaker 1: put him a whole get his email and send that
- 8:08Speaker 1: out today, please. He's line three. Hello. Who's this Hello?
- 8:12Speaker 1: This is on the side of the one. Hey, I'm
- 8:14Speaker 1: inspired writer. Uh, I'm wanting advice on how to move
- 8:18Speaker 1: my book forward, like getting the Ball was calling to
- 8:20Speaker 1: companies and things of that nature. Have you written a book? Answer?
- 8:23Speaker 1: Excuse me? Have you written a book? I have your
- 8:26Speaker 1: self published? Yeah? Yeah, y'all published it, y'all. I sent
- 8:29Speaker 1: it to you one day, Charlemagne to the Redio station.
- 8:32Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the name of it. It's
- 8:34Speaker 1: called Real Essay Guide the President of the Baby Boy.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Oh man, I gotta look for that one like I
- 8:42Speaker 1: sent it like making a month ago. I told MV two.
- 8:45Speaker 1: I gave MVY a copy for all of y'all lessons,
- 8:47Speaker 1: but he said, you know, he busy, he worked. You know, well,
- 8:50Speaker 1: I can't tell you the process of how to get
- 8:53Speaker 1: it done, but I you know, I have a book
- 8:54Speaker 1: publishing company called Black Privilege Publishing through Simon and Schust.
- 8:58Speaker 1: We put out Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency, how to
- 9:01Speaker 1: Win in the Country Were Built, and we put out
- 9:03Speaker 1: and Need of Copack, Shallow Waters, and we have some
- 9:04Speaker 1: amazing releases on the way. So the only thing I
- 9:07Speaker 1: can tell you is that I will definitely look for
- 9:10Speaker 1: your book and check it out, and you know, you
- 9:13Speaker 1: can leave your information. But I can't give you no
- 9:15Speaker 1: information on how to get a book deal. I don't know. Yeah,
- 9:20Speaker 1: I mean what I would tell you is keep doing
- 9:21Speaker 1: what you're doing. I mean, I think you try to
- 9:23Speaker 1: give me the book at the car show, but I
- 9:25Speaker 1: would keeping up popping up at these places where people
- 9:27Speaker 1: are and trying to sell that book. And it's like
- 9:29Speaker 1: anything else is like back in the day. You gotta
- 9:31Speaker 1: go hand in hand. You gotta be out there and
- 9:32Speaker 1: selling the pitch. Because yeah, I'm always looking for fresh authors.
- 9:38Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I have a lot
- 9:39Speaker 1: of we have a lot of releases coming on black
- 9:42Speaker 1: privilege publishing from a you know a lot of people
- 9:45Speaker 1: that folks know, but I'm always looking for fresh publishers
- 9:47Speaker 1: that got great stories. So I'm gonna look for that book,
- 9:49Speaker 1: my brother. Yeah, we'll get it off your chest at
- 9:52Speaker 1: the breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast Club. You know,
- 9:57Speaker 1: some people have to wait a certain amount of time,
- 10:00Speaker 1: some people had to pay people. Was just a conversation.
- 10:02Speaker 1: So what was the process? Would you getting your masters above? Yeah,
- 10:07Speaker 1: but you know when you when you have when you signed.
- 10:10Speaker 1: You know, from our era when we did deals, it
- 10:13Speaker 1: was standard for the labels to have control of the
- 10:15Speaker 1: master for like seven years and then some of it
- 10:18Speaker 1: will held every buy that back and then some of it.
- 10:20Speaker 1: You know, it was all three. Do you talk to
- 10:22Speaker 1: a lot of the Detroit artistcause it's Detroit. Is a
- 10:24Speaker 1: new wave of artists coming out. Do you get a
- 10:26Speaker 1: chance to speak with the younger artists and say, hey,
- 10:28Speaker 1: this is how you should be signing your deals or
- 10:29Speaker 1: is it one of those things when you're young you're like, oh,
- 10:32Speaker 1: we knew what we're doing. Anyway, No, I speak to
- 10:34Speaker 1: him as much as I can. This is one of
- 10:36Speaker 1: them dull is like enlightened beyond his years. But there's
- 10:40Speaker 1: a few artists that I kind of mentor not to
- 10:42Speaker 1: the degree of him, But there's a lot of companies.
- 10:45Speaker 1: They come with a bag of money. They don't have
- 10:48Speaker 1: much to offer, but since they have money upfront, and
- 10:51Speaker 1: they're catching these guys at a time where they kind
- 10:53Speaker 1: of need money or they feel like that they need money,
- 10:55Speaker 1: it's already in the contract. I actually read somebody's proposal
- 10:59Speaker 1: and it's said, we will have ownership of a master
- 11:02Speaker 1: in perpetuity, and then we'll split everything sixty forty sixty
- 11:07Speaker 1: US forty you and give you a five thousand dollars advance.
- 11:10Speaker 1: And he was thinking about signing it for five thousand dollars.
- 11:14Speaker 1: God dag, because yeah, because we don't five thousand number one,
- 11:19Speaker 1: we programmed to think shortsided correct. We have no kind
- 11:23Speaker 1: of like idea of how to place value on that master,
- 11:27Speaker 1: so early on we don't know what it's going to
- 11:30Speaker 1: be worth until it comes out, and then it goes
- 11:33Speaker 1: and then it's like, damn, Okay, now I know a
- 11:35Speaker 1: little bit more. Now I want to go get the
- 11:37Speaker 1: master back. Now it's the same old song and dance
- 11:39Speaker 1: publicly from a public platform. You bashing some company or
- 11:43Speaker 1: something like that, which that don't look good either. There's
- 11:46Speaker 1: an investment. The problem is we don't always understand the
- 11:50Speaker 1: complexity other deals. But you can't be mad. You have
- 11:54Speaker 1: to have an attorney. So that means your attorney looks
- 11:56Speaker 1: over that paperwork in most cases. Yeah, but your attorney
- 11:59Speaker 1: is their attorney. That's we got. I give you an
- 12:00Speaker 1: attorney just to any attorney. But you know how that
- 12:05Speaker 1: conversation came up in the car. I said, do you
- 12:08Speaker 1: think it's possible for me, a black man to cultivate
- 12:13Speaker 1: a real meaningful relationship with an artist and on his masters?
- 12:17Speaker 1: And I said yeah. He said for period, for any
- 12:20Speaker 1: period of time. I think so there is there any
- 12:24Speaker 1: point where that artist is gonna get a little bit wiser,
- 12:28Speaker 1: a little bit bigger, and then look look at it
- 12:30Speaker 1: in retrospect. Is it possible for him or her not
- 12:33Speaker 1: to harbor some Yeah, I agree with you already negotiate though,
- 12:37Speaker 1: like when that artist catches that hit. It has to
- 12:39Speaker 1: be a point where it said, Okay, I made my
- 12:42Speaker 1: money back off the investment. Because it's not just five
- 12:44Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You gotta pay for travel, You gotta pay
- 12:46Speaker 1: for war. That's the big for traveling you're paying for
- 12:49Speaker 1: What would your renegotiation be? It depends how big direcorded.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Like a perfect example, right Cardi B. When Cardy B
- 12:56Speaker 1: was first side, they put a lot into Cardi B.
- 12:59Speaker 1: But this you took off that should have been to
- 13:02Speaker 1: renegotiate right then and there you got the one of
- 13:04Speaker 1: the biggest female artists. Give it half the coopany, But
- 13:06Speaker 1: then what happens when you got five Cardi bs? Ain't
- 13:09Speaker 1: a label exactly. And that's what I was gonna say
- 13:11Speaker 1: about the masters conversation. It's about the investment you put
- 13:13Speaker 1: in them. You know what I mean. I don't want
- 13:15Speaker 1: none of your masters if I didn't make a large investment.
- 13:17Speaker 1: But if I made a large investment, man, I can
- 13:19Speaker 1: see why I gotta get it back. And we're gonna
- 13:21Speaker 1: be held to a different standard than the labels would be. Yeah,
- 13:23Speaker 1: you're here the way, let's talk about Hole Buffy. You
- 13:26Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, don't abody to talk about Leod,
- 13:28Speaker 1: don't abody to talk about none of these labels. Correct,
- 13:31Speaker 1: But let Hoole do something, Let you do something. Let
- 13:33Speaker 1: any of us do something, and it's just like, oh, man,
- 13:36Speaker 1: you're wrong. How could you do that? You know what
- 13:38Speaker 1: I mean? But when you're investing somebody, you're paying for everything, right,
- 13:41Speaker 1: So you're paying for studio talking, you're paying for them
- 13:43Speaker 1: lights to be on, You're paying for the engineer, you're
- 13:45Speaker 1: paying for the food for damn the water, traveling, hotels,
- 13:49Speaker 1: wardrobe if they don't have it. Now he has to
- 13:52Speaker 1: make a record. If that record don't pop, you don't
- 13:54Speaker 1: get none of that money back. And you're doing it
- 13:56Speaker 1: on some family, and that creates a sense of entitlement.
- 14:00Speaker 1: That's why I asked in the context of building cultivating
- 14:03Speaker 1: the relationship, because you know, we do everything on some family,
- 14:06Speaker 1: you know what I'm so it's difficult to be able
- 14:08Speaker 1: to do that kind of business and cultivate a relationship.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Is that The other problem too, though, that the black
- 14:14Speaker 1: executives do do the family thing. We're a family. We
- 14:17Speaker 1: Rocked for life, we bad Boy for life. Isn't that
- 14:20Speaker 1: to just be more business? That's what it always feels like,
- 14:22Speaker 1: even when like you look at Meek signing the Raws
- 14:25Speaker 1: or Drake and you know, Nikki signing the Wayne. It's
- 14:28Speaker 1: a family. It's a family when we win. Yeah, but
- 14:31Speaker 1: then when you start throwing them bricks out and it's
- 14:33Speaker 1: f that person that you just called your family, you know, yeah, yeah,
- 14:36Speaker 1: I know, I know. I don't know. I say that
- 14:39Speaker 1: because we want fans. Is that's when we come from
- 14:43Speaker 1: though and our culture. We come from broken family. So
- 14:47Speaker 1: the ability to make money with our family ain't just music.
- 14:50Speaker 1: I mean, it could be the dope game too, but
- 14:52Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it still starts with leadership.
- 14:55Speaker 1: I went out there when when Puff was working on
- 14:57Speaker 1: the press Play album. I went out there to work
- 14:58Speaker 1: for him, and it's you had me in like a
- 15:01Speaker 1: MIDI room just writing versus over and over and over
- 15:03Speaker 1: again while he was in the bigger, luxurious a room
- 15:05Speaker 1: with all of his celebrity friends, and I was just like, Man,
- 15:09Speaker 1: this ain't paid me. You know what I'm saying, Like
- 15:11Speaker 1: this brying me. About ten years later, after I was
- 15:15Speaker 1: a little wiser, I looked at him in retrospect. Man,
- 15:17Speaker 1: I had to hit him on the DM. I didn't
- 15:19Speaker 1: have his num. I had to hear him on the
- 15:20Speaker 1: DM man to tell him how much I appreciate him,
- 15:22Speaker 1: how much I took from that, Like it was because
- 15:25Speaker 1: of that process that I started to rewrite in my
- 15:29Speaker 1: own creative process. I was like, I didn't even rewrite
- 15:33Speaker 1: my own just much. Why don't I approach but this
- 15:35Speaker 1: same kind of intensity I poured that from it, and
- 15:39Speaker 1: just the opportunity, you know what I mean, Like sometimes man,
- 15:42Speaker 1: we take for granted the opportunity. And I looked at
- 15:44Speaker 1: him and thought about how many great things he's contributed
- 15:49Speaker 1: to the culture, and how much all of the bad
- 15:51Speaker 1: stuff or the quote unquote bad stuff is always placed
- 15:54Speaker 1: in front of the same with Baby. I wish I
- 15:56Speaker 1: could call Baby and tell him how great I think
- 15:59Speaker 1: he is, you know, I mean, because it's like every
- 16:02Speaker 1: time you hear about these guys as well, they're on drugs,
- 16:04Speaker 1: they're doing this, getting them doing this. But it's like, bro,
- 16:07Speaker 1: the'se It's been existing since nineteen ninety seven legends. If
- 16:11Speaker 1: that was anybody else from any other culture of people,
- 16:15Speaker 1: these would be they would be status. No, we have
- 16:18Speaker 1: appreciate even Dame. I was. I've seen Dame this weekend.
- 16:20Speaker 1: I was on a panel with him and the middle
- 16:22Speaker 1: of panel I had to say thank you, and he
- 16:24Speaker 1: was like, for what I was like back then when
- 16:26Speaker 1: I was doing mixtapes, even though it was like ninety nine.
- 16:28Speaker 1: I was like, you had an opportunity to do the
- 16:30Speaker 1: Rockefeller mixtapes with Clue, with S and S with Flex
- 16:34Speaker 1: what you said you wanted a young DJ at the time,
- 16:36Speaker 1: and you pick me? And I was like, thank you
- 16:38Speaker 1: because you were cheaper. You know that. I said thank you,
- 16:44Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what, when you grow
- 16:46Speaker 1: a little bit, we really understand how how grateful it
- 16:50Speaker 1: was to have that opportunity because we don't have those opportunity. Yeah.
- 16:52Speaker 1: But I will say though, ten years ago you other
- 16:54Speaker 1: know New Royce, No no, no, no, I was saying
- 16:58Speaker 1: time you're in the b room. Now you ain't. No
- 16:59Speaker 1: New was saying ten years later from when that was
- 17:04Speaker 1: Camember the press playoffs. Yeah, but even with that, Russia
- 17:07Speaker 1: the five not should have been treating with a little
- 17:08Speaker 1: bit more respect. I think, no, no, no, I was
- 17:10Speaker 1: on a private jet with them. We went to talk. Okay,
- 17:14Speaker 1: when we was up at daddy shouse. You remember how
- 17:16Speaker 1: long ago we got more with Royce to five nine.
- 17:19Speaker 1: When we come back, Dope moves to Breakfast Club. Good Morning,
- 17:22Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club the morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Charlomagne
- 17:29Speaker 1: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking
- 17:31Speaker 1: it with Royce to five nine. And I got to
- 17:33Speaker 1: ask slaughter house of y'all back on good terms. I
- 17:37Speaker 1: don't know what month this was, what week it was.
- 17:39Speaker 1: I happened to turn Instagram, and I've seen y'all arguing
- 17:42Speaker 1: on Instagram. You would you would have you were the
- 17:44Speaker 1: middle man, you would have one trying to calm things down.
- 17:46Speaker 1: And they were going back and forth, and I just
- 17:47Speaker 1: turned to I was like, I can't see these bubbs
- 17:49Speaker 1: arguing anymore. So you're back good. I mean, I could
- 17:52Speaker 1: never say we're bad, you know what I mean? Like
- 17:53Speaker 1: they listen, man, we've been We've spent ten years together. Man,
- 18:00Speaker 1: Damn there every day building something special, you know what
- 18:03Speaker 1: I mean. And it just it just ended in a
- 18:05Speaker 1: very unfortunate way. But I can't just sum it up
- 18:10Speaker 1: like that. Now. We haven't spoken. Two of the guys,
- 18:12Speaker 1: Crooked and Joel, made some made some decisions that you know,
- 18:15Speaker 1: we can't really come back from in terms of business.
- 18:18Speaker 1: That's really it. Decision was they decided to do their
- 18:20Speaker 1: own group or do their own thing together. I'n give
- 18:23Speaker 1: you the short version, but me and Joe is sitting
- 18:25Speaker 1: around minding our own business, and we look up and
- 18:27Speaker 1: they start rolling out a project. The project was called
- 18:30Speaker 1: The Rise and Fall a Slaughterhouse. They put this project
- 18:33Speaker 1: out and the project is announcing to the world that
- 18:36Speaker 1: the group is over. And this is while we had
- 18:38Speaker 1: already went through a long negotiation with Shady to pull
- 18:42Speaker 1: the group off the label so we can do things
- 18:45Speaker 1: moving forward, so we can make another album, so we
- 18:49Speaker 1: can relaunch merchandise, so we can relaunch everything Slaughterhouse. So
- 18:52Speaker 1: y'all were gonna do another album, even Joe was gonna
- 18:54Speaker 1: do get in the studio and do another album at
- 18:55Speaker 1: that time. Absolutely okay. The whole album was basically about
- 18:59Speaker 1: how Joe Knock gonna wrap Tricket came to the table
- 19:02Speaker 1: with a deal idea. We didn't want to do it,
- 19:04Speaker 1: so day over it. They're done, The group is done.
- 19:07Speaker 1: And I just felt like that was a hell of
- 19:09Speaker 1: a thing to blindside me with as a friend and
- 19:12Speaker 1: as a business partner, because number one, if the group
- 19:14Speaker 1: is gonna be over, that's fine. Things in let me
- 19:17Speaker 1: know that. Or if you're gonna go public and say
- 19:20Speaker 1: that you're done with the group, that's school. But don't
- 19:23Speaker 1: just go public and just announced that the group is done.
- 19:26Speaker 1: I expected more out of crookeet. I didn't have as
- 19:28Speaker 1: much of a problem with Joel, because you know, me
- 19:31Speaker 1: and Joel always been been cool. But me and Crook, well,
- 19:34Speaker 1: I thought we were better than that, you know what
- 19:35Speaker 1: I mean. So it was more of a personal thing,
- 19:37Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I can't. I can't
- 19:39Speaker 1: bring myself to a point where I can get on
- 19:40Speaker 1: a public platform and bash any of them though, you
- 19:42Speaker 1: know what I mean. I got too much love for him,
- 19:44Speaker 1: and I think the amount of love I got for
- 19:46Speaker 1: him is what made me so disappointed. Bunn told me,
- 19:49Speaker 1: like when we first, when Slaughterhouse first became a thing,
- 19:52Speaker 1: he called me and any time I ever aired out
- 19:55Speaker 1: anything publicly if it involved family, I always regretted it.
- 20:00Speaker 1: I'd always resonated with Since that conversation, I've went and
- 20:03Speaker 1: done that probably fifty times, and I regretted it every time.
- 20:07Speaker 1: So you know, so that's one of the things that
- 20:09Speaker 1: I'm working on. So to answer your question, no, no
- 20:12Speaker 1: more slaughter House, but still nothing beloved. Always I respect everything,
- 20:16Speaker 1: as you said, and I feel like that should have
- 20:17Speaker 1: been an easy conversation for Crooking in Joel because Joe
- 20:21Speaker 1: don't want to rap, so he don't want to wrap.
- 20:22Speaker 1: There's no slaughter House, so why shouldn't he be able
- 20:25Speaker 1: to go do their own project. Well, it's easy to
- 20:28Speaker 1: paint Joe as that because of how many things he
- 20:31Speaker 1: said publicly. But when we're having conference calls and he's
- 20:34Speaker 1: a part of every call and we having creative conversations
- 20:38Speaker 1: about what we're gonna do next, you know what I mean?
- 20:40Speaker 1: He was gonna get back in the doing. Joe staying
- 20:43Speaker 1: is I'm retired doing. I'm in the content space. But
- 20:47Speaker 1: I'm really into ownership right now. I will wrap in
- 20:50Speaker 1: slaughter House. If we own it, it can't be on Shady,
- 20:53Speaker 1: And if we decide to take it to another label,
- 20:55Speaker 1: I would be particular on how we would do that
- 20:58Speaker 1: deal because we already built this. This is something we've
- 21:00Speaker 1: built already, and I agree it shouldn't just sit on
- 21:04Speaker 1: Shady if Shady doesn't want to release it. And this
- 21:06Speaker 1: is respectfully because I love them too always, So to
- 21:09Speaker 1: get to that point with Joe being way more knowledgeable
- 21:12Speaker 1: obviously myself being way more knowledgeable, and then just having
- 21:16Speaker 1: it in our possession and for them to just jump
- 21:18Speaker 1: the gun like that because of a deal that he
- 21:21Speaker 1: put on the table, which he that's never been his
- 21:23Speaker 1: role in the group. But I mean, anything that anybody
- 21:26Speaker 1: put on the table, I would consider it. But I
- 21:28Speaker 1: think that we should be allowed to ask questions. Right
- 21:31Speaker 1: if I put something on the table for us and
- 21:33Speaker 1: you ask questions, or even if you say no, does
- 21:36Speaker 1: that mean everything is over? Or does that mean we
- 21:38Speaker 1: go to another label. We hadn't talked to any other
- 21:40Speaker 1: labels yet. We hadn't even talked to a label in
- 21:42Speaker 1: that situation. We talked to a guy who was talking
- 21:45Speaker 1: to a label. We never had nothing on paper. There
- 21:47Speaker 1: never was a proposal in black and white for us
- 21:49Speaker 1: to look at. It was just a conversation. He didn't
- 21:52Speaker 1: like how the conversation went, so he decided we're gonna
- 21:55Speaker 1: go do this playing devil's advocate, Like, do you feel
- 21:57Speaker 1: like the white Devil's advocate? We know Joe was doing
- 22:02Speaker 1: well with his content, creating everything that he's doing. You're
- 22:06Speaker 1: obviously doing well. Could it be a situation where maybe
- 22:10Speaker 1: Joel and Crooked weren't doing as well because the group
- 22:13Speaker 1: was so much financial for them. I mean, y'all were
- 22:15Speaker 1: going on towards y'all. I don't think y'all ever really
- 22:17Speaker 1: got the money that y'all deserved. Yet you feel like
- 22:20Speaker 1: maybe that was their way of saying, look, I gotta
- 22:22Speaker 1: feed my family at the end of the day. Possibly,
- 22:24Speaker 1: and I mean listen. That makes it even worse because
- 22:27Speaker 1: it's like, bro, if that's what it was, we who
- 22:30Speaker 1: are you supposed to have been talking to? I understand
- 22:33Speaker 1: the ups and down. So if it's if this is
- 22:35Speaker 1: a downtime, because there's been plenty of things that I've
- 22:38Speaker 1: done that I've done because one of my rules in
- 22:41Speaker 1: the group was I don't like I'm not doing any
- 22:43Speaker 1: three man shows. All members gotta be there. There's been
- 22:46Speaker 1: plenty of times Joe couldn't make it where they were like, yo, listen,
- 22:49Speaker 1: we need you to come do this because we need
- 22:50Speaker 1: the money. And I did it like Roy's gonna be played.
- 22:53Speaker 1: It was a bad deal. There were times when when
- 22:55Speaker 1: Joe was ready to wrap and we couldn't get Crooked
- 22:59Speaker 1: to rap. They don't talk about that, you know what
- 23:01Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like Crook and Cook always ready to wrap.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Bok didn't want to know. See see what I'm saying.
- 23:06Speaker 1: See See, people got the wrong impression about people. And
- 23:09Speaker 1: that's why Joe is easy to paint as a certain thing.
- 23:12Speaker 1: He's easy talking. Yeah, and Joel look like they look
- 23:15Speaker 1: like the blue collar guys, correct, you know the guys
- 23:17Speaker 1: who you know willing the road, they sleeves up, all
- 23:19Speaker 1: that crook. He had his ways about him the whole time.
- 23:23Speaker 1: He's always had some issue with Joe that he wouldn't address.
- 23:27Speaker 1: It was always in the air. I can't quite put
- 23:30Speaker 1: my finger on what that was. But this getting made
- 23:32Speaker 1: Joe disrecords. He didn't did it all types of you
- 23:35Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, People just didn't hear. And there
- 23:38Speaker 1: was a time where he was like, nah, I ain't wrapping.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Nobody went out and put out an album about him
- 23:43Speaker 1: not rapping and saying that the group is over with.
- 23:45Speaker 1: It's just it's messy. And then on the business side
- 23:48Speaker 1: it's like, yo, you you're not up up your too.
- 23:53Speaker 1: And then you know, like during the whole process, you
- 23:56Speaker 1: had to paint me in a certain light in order
- 23:58Speaker 1: to be able to do that, And I'm just trying
- 24:00Speaker 1: to figure out what what did I do to deserve that? Yeah,
- 24:02Speaker 1: I mean there's no record a silent because I heard.
- 24:05Speaker 1: I heard people are getting invited to the Frank Stand.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I never did, didn't somebody said SMD on one of
- 24:09Speaker 1: those calls. Oh no, no, Joe, Joe, Joe one of them.
- 24:12Speaker 1: I was like, Joe, Yeah, Joe said that project, that
- 24:16Speaker 1: project of SMD. He said that project that probably can
- 24:19Speaker 1: suck much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh maybe it was
- 24:21Speaker 1: the project. Oh yeah, maybe that's not That's just that
- 24:23Speaker 1: when I started seeing him lives like, you know what, enough,
- 24:25Speaker 1: that was just that was just some Joe to say though,
- 24:27Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it was It wasn't
- 24:28Speaker 1: like Joel know how Joe talked, you know what I mean.
- 24:31Speaker 1: So that wasn't That wasn't really nothing. That was one
- 24:34Speaker 1: of the things where you can take it. You can
- 24:35Speaker 1: take it super super offensive and personal if you if
- 24:38Speaker 1: you choose to. But Joe, Joel said a lot of them.
- 24:42Speaker 1: He said a lot of weird stuff too, you know
- 24:44Speaker 1: what I mean, Like everybody played that part. I'm I'm
- 24:48Speaker 1: holding myself accountable for the for the part that I
- 24:50Speaker 1: played to you know what I mean. But I mean
- 24:52Speaker 1: it's a little part did you play you think? I mean,
- 24:54Speaker 1: you're making it hard for me because I don't do
- 24:56Speaker 1: much wrong, Charlie Man, I just I just I just um.
- 25:01Speaker 1: I did that thing that I was talking about. I
- 25:03Speaker 1: went on Joe's show, and I was frustrated in my
- 25:06Speaker 1: reaction to what they did. Caused Crook to react to
- 25:10Speaker 1: how I reacted. What he said made me block them.
- 25:13Speaker 1: It made me block them on social media and made
- 25:15Speaker 1: me block his number because I don't. I love them
- 25:18Speaker 1: too much and I don't want nothing else to get said.
- 25:20Speaker 1: It's gonna put me up there, you know what I mean.
- 25:23Speaker 1: And I don't feel like there's anything that should go
- 25:25Speaker 1: on in the wrap space that should even bring you
- 25:28Speaker 1: to that, you know what I mean. But we all
- 25:30Speaker 1: we all gardened something, you know what I mean, Like
- 25:32Speaker 1: we all garden rather it's our egos. We come from
- 25:35Speaker 1: environments where the measuring stick cool some souped up tough guy,
- 25:39Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like everybody's like, watch how
- 25:42Speaker 1: you talk to me. Respect me, But everybody ain't being
- 25:44Speaker 1: so respectful, you know so well. We appreciate you brothers
- 25:48Speaker 1: for joining us. It's the breakfast club. Good morning, the
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- 26:30Speaker 1: talking about Kevin Gates and open up the phone lines.
- 26:33Speaker 1: Eight hundred five A five one oh five one now
- 26:35Speaker 1: Kevin Gates. Posters posted this on Twitter yesterday. If a
- 26:39Speaker 1: woman comes in the bathroom and talks to me while
- 26:40Speaker 1: I'm taking an ish, I find that very romantic. Now
- 26:44Speaker 1: do you like when your wife comes in the bathroom
- 26:46Speaker 1: it has a conversation with you? Absolutely not. That's not
- 26:49Speaker 1: something that we do. I hate poop, first of all,
- 26:52Speaker 1: don't like it. I know everyone does it, but it's
- 26:54Speaker 1: literally one of my least favorite things to do. I
- 26:56Speaker 1: don't look at it when it's in the toilet. I
- 26:57Speaker 1: know some people like to look at it and make
- 26:59Speaker 1: sure it's like, you know, in the shape of a
- 27:02Speaker 1: Superman logo, like I don't do Yeah, I don't do
- 27:04Speaker 1: none of that, you know what I mean. I think
- 27:05Speaker 1: when you are moving vows, it's a sacred experience and
- 27:08Speaker 1: you should expel with by yourself. I don't want my
- 27:10Speaker 1: wife in the bathroom with me while I'm pooping. There's
- 27:12Speaker 1: nothing cute about that. It's nothing sexy about that. I
- 27:15Speaker 1: mean to me, Kevin Gates, that's him to him, to
- 27:17Speaker 1: each his own, and to me, No, yeah, I feel
- 27:20Speaker 1: the same. I don't. I don't see nothing the sex
- 27:21Speaker 1: of it. I don't want to have a conversation, although
- 27:23Speaker 1: I set up shot, but I go to the bathroom though,
- 27:25Speaker 1: like I said, like, I'm not in the bathroom for
- 27:27Speaker 1: like thirty seconds. I'm magazine. Nah, not me, Nah, I
- 27:32Speaker 1: got my phone. No, I'm too old to lay something.
- 27:34Speaker 1: I might be paying my bills. I'm doing like I
- 27:37Speaker 1: really take my time, like I sometimes I'm all that
- 27:39Speaker 1: so long my feet fall a skip that happens to
- 27:41Speaker 1: me all the time. And I don't even gotta be
- 27:42Speaker 1: on that long. That's why I don't do it no more.
- 27:44Speaker 1: I meant to get. I liked him step stools my
- 27:46Speaker 1: sister Alicia, and they told me a long time ago
- 27:48Speaker 1: to get one of them stools. Like it's like a
- 27:50Speaker 1: squatty party there you go when you put your legs
- 27:52Speaker 1: up while you're pooping, so you put your legs up
- 27:54Speaker 1: while you do That's that's just too much. But I
- 27:56Speaker 1: will tell you something. When I got a callinic, I
- 27:58Speaker 1: did that. It was amazing. Not gonna lie. What part
- 28:01Speaker 1: did you like? What the calonic part? I like the
- 28:04Speaker 1: whole process. I mean, it's a little uncomfortable, but I'm
- 28:06Speaker 1: talking about like when the after you the calonic is done,
- 28:08Speaker 1: you gotta go sit on the toilet in the calonic place.
- 28:11Speaker 1: And she had a squatty party in there. And I'm
- 28:14Speaker 1: not gonna lie, man. I don't know if it was
- 28:15Speaker 1: the calonic of the squatt a party, but it dumped
- 28:17Speaker 1: like you dump dump dump, you know what I mean.
- 28:20Speaker 1: If it was, it felt good and my leg weren't
- 28:22Speaker 1: sleepy when I got up. I'm glad you finally good.
- 28:24Speaker 1: But yeah, answer your question. No, I don't want my
- 28:27Speaker 1: woman in the bathroom with me while I'm taking the poop.
- 28:29Speaker 1: And I don't want to be in there with her
- 28:30Speaker 1: what she's taking? No, I mean, hello, who's this? Hey?
- 28:34Speaker 1: This is representing the ball? Yeah, what's up? Bro? We're
- 28:37Speaker 1: talking about, you know, pooping in front of your partner,
- 28:40Speaker 1: all right, subjective about think about it normally. How many
- 28:43Speaker 1: people have you pooped in front of them? Not even
- 28:48Speaker 1: very few, nobody besides my wife. And this is when
- 28:51Speaker 1: when it has to happen. But I don't think I've
- 28:54Speaker 1: ever pooped in front of my wife. My mama went
- 28:57Speaker 1: out of the baby was atte. So the highest level
- 29:01Speaker 1: of intimacy is pooping in front of your partner. No,
- 29:04Speaker 1: it's not no more intimate than that. That is not
- 29:06Speaker 1: true romantic. That's just simply not true romantic. And only
- 29:10Speaker 1: my wife only comes to the bathroom. She has to,
- 29:12Speaker 1: like you might like, she might need something out the bathroom,
- 29:14Speaker 1: and when she comes in there, she's coming in like
- 29:17Speaker 1: full gas mask or like ah. And by your logic,
- 29:20Speaker 1: you might as well walk around with a dipe on
- 29:21Speaker 1: and let your wife change you and wipe you and
- 29:23Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, and that intimate too. Absolutely, have
- 29:27Speaker 1: a blessed day, sir, Have a blessed don't kink shaming,
- 29:30Speaker 1: Have a blessed don't kink shading? Hello, who's this? What's
- 29:33Speaker 1: going on? This is a DJ? This is lit. I'm
- 29:36Speaker 1: wanting the radio. That's lit. It's lit. You poop in
- 29:40Speaker 1: front of your partner. I'm sorry you're poop in front
- 29:43Speaker 1: of your partner? Um, yeah, I do. Definitely you've got
- 29:46Speaker 1: you because that's not let you know that. That's the
- 29:47Speaker 1: who's got a real one? That means definitely down for
- 29:49Speaker 1: the You know what, boy, y'all got some y'all got
- 29:51Speaker 1: some weird ways to make sure that your woman is real? No,
- 29:55Speaker 1: because you know you, I mean because you have to,
- 29:57Speaker 1: because that's something natural of people be like ill, Like
- 29:59Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like when you first start
- 30:00Speaker 1: dating somebody like you, you know how many farts you
- 30:03Speaker 1: hold in? Yeah, that's not healthy. You gotta let it
- 30:06Speaker 1: out for somebody that you could feel comfortable with, that
- 30:08Speaker 1: let you you couldst of all and all that we
- 30:11Speaker 1: have conversations. First of all, I don't fart in my clothes.
- 30:14Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, why would you want to
- 30:16Speaker 1: fart around anybody? That's just disrespectful. Like it's just it's
- 30:19Speaker 1: like nobody just sits around and foughts. You ain't never
- 30:22Speaker 1: just been in the casual conversation with persons and they
- 30:24Speaker 1: just fought. Maybe when you was a kid, but when
- 30:26Speaker 1: you're an adult, you don't do stuff like that. Why
- 30:27Speaker 1: would you do that around your wife? So this is
- 30:30Speaker 1: what I do when if I'm in public and I
- 30:32Speaker 1: gotta fart, I just I just step away. I just say,
- 30:34Speaker 1: excuse me, I stepped to the side, fart and let
- 30:36Speaker 1: it air out. Wait about a couple of seconds, because
- 30:38Speaker 1: you don't want it to linger in them to respect,
- 30:41Speaker 1: that's respect, that's respects. So why wouldn't you give you
- 30:44Speaker 1: a woman that same respect? Why would you fart in
- 30:45Speaker 1: front of her just because you think you can. That's
- 30:48Speaker 1: just disrespectful for you. While we've been together for a while,
- 30:53Speaker 1: you haven't saying you fought. You gotta let it, you
- 30:55Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta go. That's a family member at
- 30:57Speaker 1: this point. If you're am fan, No, you don't have
- 31:00Speaker 1: y'all show you faring fun of your wife, not on purpose. Yeah,
- 31:03Speaker 1: but you gotta let it go. Yo. You know it's
- 31:05Speaker 1: it's a chemical imbalance when you um hold I mean,
- 31:08Speaker 1: I don't fight in front of me. I don't fight
- 31:10Speaker 1: my clothes. Oh yeah, I will fall. I would pass
- 31:11Speaker 1: gas from my wife and my kids and my family,
- 31:14Speaker 1: not me. I ain't issued in front of us were
- 31:16Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hea bade. Let's have this conversation in
- 31:18Speaker 1: the bathroom. I'm pooping. I'm not gonna do that. Wait
- 31:21Speaker 1: real quick, I just want to say this. I want
- 31:22Speaker 1: to keep you on too long. I've been calling the
- 31:25Speaker 1: radio since I was a kid. This is my first
- 31:27Speaker 1: time I ever get into that's wild. I just gonna
- 31:29Speaker 1: be a good day today. Me on the ground, I'm Charlotte,
- 31:32Speaker 1: and I'm every following me on the ground. All right,
- 31:34Speaker 1: all right, man, I won't say the beauty of having
- 31:36Speaker 1: young kids that I you know, I gotta, I gotta.
- 31:37Speaker 1: I got a six year old and a tune to
- 31:40Speaker 1: be three year old. Like, if you do accidentally fart,
- 31:43Speaker 1: you can always blame it on them. I do that
- 31:46Speaker 1: all the time. Hello this Hey, what me? Just a
- 31:52Speaker 1: big from Myrtle Beach And what's up brother, Myrtle Beach.
- 31:55Speaker 1: We're talking about pooping, ain't man, partner? Huh? I got
- 31:58Speaker 1: the thick man. I thought about this and I got
- 32:00Speaker 1: to say, yeah, I did. Finally the first time it happened,
- 32:03Speaker 1: I thought she was the one because back in high
- 32:06Speaker 1: school I was at Kante, I couldn't poop in front
- 32:08Speaker 1: of everybody, so I had to go to the whole
- 32:10Speaker 1: tech fielding. So I felt like if I felt that
- 32:12Speaker 1: comfortable around her, she was the one. Why would you
- 32:15Speaker 1: have to poop in front of everybody? Sir? You know
- 32:17Speaker 1: when you go, you know kids are in high school.
- 32:19Speaker 1: So man, I'm sure you got trauma times something when oh,
- 32:22Speaker 1: you go to the regular basketment. If you're poop in
- 32:24Speaker 1: high school, everybody comes and opened the door and nothing, dude,
- 32:26Speaker 1: do whatever you know. I can honestly say, and this
- 32:29Speaker 1: is not a lie. I've never pooped in high school.
- 32:31Speaker 1: I never pooped in the bathroom in high school. You
- 32:33Speaker 1: held it till you came home. I just never had
- 32:35Speaker 1: to in school. I don't know why my bows got
- 32:37Speaker 1: a lot more regular as I got older in school.
- 32:40Speaker 1: I never, I never. I never pooped in high school.
- 32:43Speaker 1: If you have a strong summer, because that pizza and
- 32:45Speaker 1: me up surprise had me going. Man after her period. Wait,
- 32:48Speaker 1: wait when you come out and you came out of ninety's,
- 32:52Speaker 1: I came out of ninety or ninety eight, But I
- 32:54Speaker 1: supposed to be ninety six. So damn yeah, I don't
- 32:58Speaker 1: remember pooping in high school. I never Yeah, music, I
- 33:01Speaker 1: also want to day, man, I love the positivity you brother,
- 33:04Speaker 1: cheep the going. I appreciated it and it keeps me
- 33:07Speaker 1: going every day. Man, Thank you King. All right, what's
- 33:09Speaker 1: the all of the story. More of the story is
- 33:11Speaker 1: to each his own. You know what I'm saying. I'm
- 33:13Speaker 1: just telling you what I don't do. You know what
- 33:14Speaker 1: I mean. Kevin Gate, that's what worked for him and
- 33:16Speaker 1: his queen. You know, me and my queen roll a
- 33:18Speaker 1: different way. That's all. But once again, I don't like poop.
- 33:21Speaker 1: I don't even like to be in the bathroom with
- 33:23Speaker 1: myself when I poop. It's the breakfast club morning, the
- 33:26Speaker 1: breakfast club, and I'm molling everybody's we are the breakfast clubs.
- 33:34Speaker 1: Especial guests joining us today. Indeed, we have Cheryl Mckissac
- 33:38Speaker 1: Daniel and Don Peoples. Welcome, Hello, now, welcome back. Yes,
- 33:43Speaker 1: you know, Cheryl is the president of CEO and Don
- 33:47Speaker 1: is the founder, chairman and CEO of the People's Corporation.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all something. It's been a lot of
- 33:52Speaker 1: rappers in this room, a lot of athletes in this room. Okay,
- 33:56Speaker 1: just might be the most money been in this room
- 33:57Speaker 1: at one time. That's all I'm gonna say. A fact,
- 34:02Speaker 1: just a fact, might be the most money that's been
- 34:03Speaker 1: in this room at one time. I just want to
- 34:04Speaker 1: say that, how are you all today? Well? We are great, Okay,
- 34:08Speaker 1: glad to be here, Glad that you are having us
- 34:11Speaker 1: in to talk about Affirmation Tower. That's right. And he said,
- 34:14Speaker 1: y'all wanted to be the most inclusive skyscraper in New
- 34:17Speaker 1: York City. What does that mean? He be a break
- 34:19Speaker 1: that down because they came ahead bullying me. First of all,
- 34:21Speaker 1: just because I went to Hampton University. They can't bully
- 34:24Speaker 1: talking on this Howard stuff. But explain what that that
- 34:26Speaker 1: project is about, that inclusive skyscraper. Listen. It was last
- 34:30Speaker 1: year when cbr EL, a large brokerage firm, came to
- 34:35Speaker 1: me and they said, listen, this is up for grabs
- 34:38Speaker 1: and the only person that we think can develop this
- 34:41Speaker 1: is Don Peoples. And I'm like, Don's a friend. He
- 34:44Speaker 1: was already looking at this project. And so you know,
- 34:48Speaker 1: if the best in the brightest of this country feel
- 34:50Speaker 1: that way, then we certainly know we can do this.
- 34:52Speaker 1: And I'm gonna let Don explain the project. Well, great,
- 34:56Speaker 1: I mean, look, Caryl and I have been friends, and
- 34:58Speaker 1: she and her sister were freshmen, and oh, y'all got
- 35:03Speaker 1: some stories. And I was in the real beginning and
- 35:09Speaker 1: going to the real estate business. And Cheryl's family has
- 35:13Speaker 1: a long history in it, and Cheryl's done an amazing
- 35:15Speaker 1: job in building her business here in New York and
- 35:18Speaker 1: other parts of the country. And so when the opportunity
- 35:21Speaker 1: to come build a building across the street from the
- 35:24Speaker 1: Jabbat Center, one of the major attractions in New York City,
- 35:28Speaker 1: I thought, what better place than to build what will be, unfortunately,
- 35:32Speaker 1: the first skyscraper in New York City built by black people.
- 35:36Speaker 1: And it's mindboding. I'm sure black people will build something,
- 35:41Speaker 1: but it wasn't. No black people actually behind it on
- 35:43Speaker 1: the financial level. That's exactly right, that black people worked
- 35:48Speaker 1: on it, but they and not enough, by the way,
- 35:50Speaker 1: because the construction industry has been discriminating over the years
- 35:55Speaker 1: as well in terms of the high paying jobs that
- 35:57Speaker 1: are generated by them. But that's stranging. So I thought that,
- 36:00Speaker 1: you know, we ought to build this building should be
- 36:02Speaker 1: built by black developers. And so I thought about this
- 36:07Speaker 1: as also we want to send a message that we
- 36:10Speaker 1: all work together. And so I called Cheryl first and look,
- 36:15Speaker 1: you know, I want you in your company as a
- 36:17Speaker 1: construction company to build this building, but also I want
- 36:20Speaker 1: you to be a developer a partner with us in that.
- 36:23Speaker 1: So she came in Craig Livingston, who has been a
- 36:25Speaker 1: trailblazer in terms of economic empowerment for black real estate
- 36:29Speaker 1: professionals and entrepreneurs. We brought him on as a developer
- 36:33Speaker 1: as well and put together a team that's eighty percent
- 36:36Speaker 1: black owned. And then we were designing it, I thought,
- 36:40Speaker 1: we want an architecture's going to make a powerful statement.
- 36:43Speaker 1: So we picked David Aga, who I've worked with before
- 36:46Speaker 1: and who was the architect for the Museum for African
- 36:48Speaker 1: American History and Culture in Washington, DC, which is the
- 36:51Speaker 1: most visited museum in the whole Smithsonian system since the
- 36:55Speaker 1: day had opened. And then we committed to thirty five
- 36:58Speaker 1: percent minority contract and get a minimum threshold to build
- 37:02Speaker 1: that building. And then you know, when we're designing the building,
- 37:06Speaker 1: it was going to be super tall. But then I said,
- 37:08Speaker 1: why not build the tallest building. Let's build the tallest
- 37:10Speaker 1: building in the Western Hemisphere, built first building to be
- 37:15Speaker 1: built by black people in New York City in terms
- 37:17Speaker 1: of financially, and let's make it the tallest one in
- 37:20Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere. And so that's what we started doing.
- 37:22Speaker 1: How much will this building costs to make it? How
- 37:24Speaker 1: long would it take? Three point six billion dollars? It's
- 37:33Speaker 1: some work, but we're gonna get it done and it
- 37:35Speaker 1: will be one of the biggest projects built in New
- 37:39Speaker 1: York City. And it meets two moments. So right now
- 37:41Speaker 1: we're coming out of COVID, so America and New York
- 37:44Speaker 1: has got to build back. But we got to do
- 37:46Speaker 1: it differently. We got to be inclusive, because that's the
- 37:48Speaker 1: other moment. I mean, these protests that we've had around
- 37:51Speaker 1: a country over the last two years, especially last year,
- 37:55Speaker 1: was about fighting for equal treatment under the law for
- 37:59Speaker 1: black people, but also for us to have our seat
- 38:01Speaker 1: at the table. Economically, is it residential or is it
- 38:04Speaker 1: going to be commercial? Office? Two hotels, So starting on
- 38:08Speaker 1: the podium that'll have a cultural center that the NAACP's
- 38:12Speaker 1: putting together, and then officers for the NAACP, and then
- 38:15Speaker 1: last week, Reverend Sharpton and I made an agreement that
- 38:18Speaker 1: we're going to bring the Civil Rights Museum there as well,
- 38:22Speaker 1: so that'll be on the lower levels of the building,
- 38:25Speaker 1: and then we'll have some restaurant and other space on
- 38:30Speaker 1: the top of the what's supporting the bigger part. And
- 38:32Speaker 1: then as we go up the tower, two hotels and
- 38:35Speaker 1: then officers and then up top three levels of the
- 38:39Speaker 1: event venue space, a observation deck. And to put the
- 38:43Speaker 1: icing on the cake, we are putting an ice skating
- 38:45Speaker 1: ring on top of the building, on top of the building,
- 38:48Speaker 1: sixteen hundred feet up in the air. Everything is intentional.
- 38:51Speaker 1: So the name the affirmation towel what at the meeting
- 38:54Speaker 1: behind the end, we're affirming that we're meeting those two
- 38:57Speaker 1: points in time. When you look at the tower, it
- 39:01Speaker 1: looks like it's upside down, and that's another message. We
- 39:05Speaker 1: are turning things upside down. We want to open up
- 39:08Speaker 1: this system to people like ours. But as you know,
- 39:11Speaker 1: when black people are owners, it creates an echosystem where
- 39:14Speaker 1: we help people all along the line. So how long
- 39:17Speaker 1: do you think it's going to take to actually complete
- 39:19Speaker 1: this project. It will take us when we start construction
- 39:22Speaker 1: about three years, and before that it'll take about a
- 39:25Speaker 1: year and a half of designed So we're about five
- 39:27Speaker 1: years out. How difficult was it to get this project?
- 39:31Speaker 1: I mean, and we're still fighting for it. I mean,
- 39:34Speaker 1: we are fighting for it now. It's very difficult, but
- 39:36Speaker 1: I mean I expect it to be difficult. I mean,
- 39:39Speaker 1: but we're knocking down barriers each day. And in reality,
- 39:44Speaker 1: Doctor King, Mecca ever John Lewis, it was hard for
- 39:48Speaker 1: them too. And we're doing it in other cities. We
- 39:51Speaker 1: just want a huge project. In Boston. Yep. Last week
- 39:54Speaker 1: we got with the Republican governor. Well, actually it was
- 39:59Speaker 1: eas easier because so give you a sense. So I mean,
- 40:03Speaker 1: I'm a big boot. I'm a Democrat, lifelong Democrat, but
- 40:07Speaker 1: I'm like when Henry Kissinger said about America, he said,
- 40:10Speaker 1: America has no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, interress black people.
- 40:14Speaker 1: We gotta have no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, permanent interest.
- 40:18Speaker 1: So the governor, Charlie Baker in Boston decided that he
- 40:22Speaker 1: saw the unfairness in the system. So what he did
- 40:25Speaker 1: is every project that he's doing in that state, twenty
- 40:29Speaker 1: five points out of a hundred, is for equity for
- 40:32Speaker 1: people of color. Always ask this question, and I don't
- 40:35Speaker 1: even know you can have one without the other. But
- 40:37Speaker 1: what's more important economic equity are equality? Oh wow, that's
- 40:41Speaker 1: a really good question. But I would say the economics
- 40:45Speaker 1: are very important, because then that's gonna help create the equality.
- 40:49Speaker 1: In my opinion, Don always says this about venture capitalists,
- 40:55Speaker 1: and they're sixty nine trillion dollars of money out there
- 40:58Speaker 1: that's been invested it, but only one point three percent
- 41:02Speaker 1: of it has been invested by black firms. So we
- 41:06Speaker 1: are so upside down on the economic ladder that we
- 41:11Speaker 1: just have to do something about that. If we can
- 41:14Speaker 1: have access to economic opportunity, we can solve our own problems.
- 41:18Speaker 1: We can deal with our own community. But you keep
- 41:20Speaker 1: blocking us from economic opportunity, then we're going to continue
- 41:24Speaker 1: to struggle. So we can do it for ourselves. Then
- 41:28Speaker 1: we can expand our community and take care of our
- 41:30Speaker 1: own issues, and we can support our own organizations. And
- 41:33Speaker 1: they need to stop looking at us. I said this
- 41:35Speaker 1: yesterday to group of white business people. You all need
- 41:38Speaker 1: to stop looking at doing business with black people of
- 41:39Speaker 1: philanthropic it's good business for you, that's right, all right.
- 41:43Speaker 1: When we come back, we have more with Cheryl McKissick,
- 41:45Speaker 1: Daniel and Don Peebles so don't move us to Breakfast
- 41:47Speaker 1: Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Charlomnea Goad, we are
- 41:51Speaker 1: to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Cheryl McKissick,
- 41:54Speaker 1: Daniel and Don Peebles. We got to go back to
- 41:56Speaker 1: the origin story because when I hear you know, y'all
- 41:59Speaker 1: knew each other as freshman at Howard University, that's like
- 42:02Speaker 1: some outliers divine alignment type stuff, like did y'all both
- 42:06Speaker 1: know that's what y'all wanted to do in the future.
- 42:10Speaker 1: When I met Don, Don had bought his first apartment
- 42:14Speaker 1: in DC, and I said, how well, I was a
- 42:18Speaker 1: freshman freshman and I was two years I think I'm
- 42:20Speaker 1: two years older than right. So he was in college
- 42:23Speaker 1: and he had bought an apartment, and I remember my
- 42:26Speaker 1: twin sister and are saying to each other, well, who
- 42:28Speaker 1: does that apartments when you're in college? And Don said
- 42:32Speaker 1: then he said, I'm going to do transformational development. My
- 42:35Speaker 1: sister and I we always knew we were going to
- 42:38Speaker 1: be in the family business. I mean, we're a fifth generation.
- 42:40Speaker 1: We always knew that. But then over the years Don
- 42:44Speaker 1: was in DC Philadelphia, and we kept saying we're gonna
- 42:48Speaker 1: work together at some point. We are definitely going to
- 42:50Speaker 1: work together, but it just has to be the right project.
- 42:54Speaker 1: So we know, MCKINNI gets fifth generation is people's first generations.
- 43:00Speaker 1: You get the money to buy that help farm and done.
- 43:01Speaker 1: You don't want to tell you it was I started yourself.
- 43:04Speaker 1: I started working. I quit college after my freshman year
- 43:08Speaker 1: and started working in real estate. And frankly, I mean,
- 43:11Speaker 1: it was a black government, it was a black mayor,
- 43:13Speaker 1: and they were focused on economic compowerment for black people.
- 43:16Speaker 1: So I felt it was a good place to start
- 43:17Speaker 1: doing business. And so I got exposed to real estate
- 43:20Speaker 1: because my mother was a real estate sales agent and
- 43:23Speaker 1: a broker, and so I learned from her. I started
- 43:26Speaker 1: my own company when I was twenty three, wow, and
- 43:29Speaker 1: built my first building when I was twenty six. But
- 43:31Speaker 1: I couldn't have done it anywhere else. DC at that
- 43:33Speaker 1: time was mecca for black economic empowerment. It was Atlanta
- 43:37Speaker 1: and DC. Maran Barry, Yeah and Maryan Bear for all
- 43:40Speaker 1: his faults, you know, he was Yeah. At his memorial service,
- 43:48Speaker 1: Minister Farcom mentioned that about his history of everything that
- 43:53Speaker 1: you know, he was being criticized for having a drug
- 43:55Speaker 1: abuse problem, and he said, who are you talking about,
- 43:57Speaker 1: John Kennedy because it wasn't so yeah. So, I mean,
- 44:04Speaker 1: Barry was transformative and the government at that time was
- 44:07Speaker 1: and they knocked down opportunities, barriers to opportunities for black
- 44:10Speaker 1: business people. Bob Johnson got a start in DC. I
- 44:14Speaker 1: got mine, many other black business people did. But I
- 44:17Speaker 1: met Cheryl and her sister. They were freshman in college
- 44:22Speaker 1: and her cousin was a good friend of mine, and
- 44:25Speaker 1: so we became friends, and we both had kind of
- 44:28Speaker 1: common entriests. They were going into the family business. I
- 44:30Speaker 1: was building mine and some of my sons in our business.
- 44:34Speaker 1: Now he's twenty seven and my daughter's nineteen and at TCU,
- 44:37Speaker 1: and I'm hopeful that she will go into the business
- 44:40Speaker 1: as well, and we can build some legacy. But part
- 44:42Speaker 1: of the legacy I want to build is demonstrating how
- 44:45Speaker 1: we can work together, because I may not be able
- 44:48Speaker 1: to do a three point six billion dollar building by myself,
- 44:52Speaker 1: Cheryl may not be able to Craig, but collectively we can.
- 44:55Speaker 1: But John, you didn't need us, I mean financially, but
- 44:58Speaker 1: I needed you all in every other way. Um, and
- 45:01Speaker 1: you all bring tremendous resources to the table. I know
- 45:05Speaker 1: people are watching this and they were all so good man.
- 45:08Speaker 1: I'm just saying this just feel so good man. I
- 45:11Speaker 1: know people are watching this and then they want to
- 45:13Speaker 1: know how though, Like it's you know, it's easy to
- 45:15Speaker 1: say I bought my first building any but but how
- 45:17Speaker 1: where did the capital come from? Like? Where does one start? Well?
- 45:20Speaker 1: I think the first thing is with a dream. I
- 45:22Speaker 1: mean developers are dreamers, um with visionaries and so with
- 45:26Speaker 1: the dream and with a plan and becoming a student
- 45:30Speaker 1: of the business and I mean beasts. You can be
- 45:32Speaker 1: self taught, read some books, learn about the business. It's
- 45:34Speaker 1: not a complicated business by the way supply and demand,
- 45:38Speaker 1: So understanding the business, having a dream and having a
- 45:41Speaker 1: dream to be achievable, but you know, pushing and then
- 45:44Speaker 1: I'm finding an idea. Once you find an idea, then
- 45:48Speaker 1: you can raise money for it. Now, what Cheryl touched on,
- 45:52Speaker 1: if you're black, don't expect it to be easy. Um.
- 45:55Speaker 1: The Federal Reserved did a study last year, just sixty
- 45:58Speaker 1: nine trillion dollars investing in equity and venture capital, and
- 46:01Speaker 1: that's normally goes. That's where real estate developers get equity
- 46:04Speaker 1: for their project from private equity, But just sixty nine
- 46:08Speaker 1: trillion dollars invested in private equity in the United States,
- 46:11Speaker 1: and out of that, one point three percent of it
- 46:13Speaker 1: goes to businesses own or founded, or projects or worked
- 46:18Speaker 1: on by blocks or women combined. So white men get
- 46:22Speaker 1: ninety eight point seven percent of all venture capital and
- 46:24Speaker 1: private equity money. So the challenge is equity. But if
- 46:27Speaker 1: you can, you can raise the money friends and family
- 46:30Speaker 1: and so on, and then build your building or buy
- 46:34Speaker 1: a property and renovate it. And then do what I
- 46:36Speaker 1: did is I rolled all my money back in. So
- 46:38Speaker 1: the first project that we did was ten million dollars.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Didn't start didn't you started with an impartment department of shouse.
- 46:46Speaker 1: I think that's the question, Like you started from us
- 46:48Speaker 1: your part? Yeah, but then right, but then after that
- 46:51Speaker 1: I started consulting an appraisal business, and that's how I
- 46:54Speaker 1: earned a living and begin to accumulate some money to save.
- 46:57Speaker 1: And then with that money, I found an operat unity
- 47:00Speaker 1: to build an office building. But if you have a
- 47:03Speaker 1: dream and you're willing to do some work, you can
- 47:07Speaker 1: make money in the real estate business. You know, we
- 47:10Speaker 1: talk about the the racial no world gap in America.
- 47:13Speaker 1: A lot you think that actually can be closed in
- 47:16Speaker 1: this generation. I don't think it can be closed. I
- 47:19Speaker 1: think we can make some progress, but we won't do
- 47:21Speaker 1: it the way it is right now. And one of
- 47:25Speaker 1: your former guests is a man I've known a long
- 47:27Speaker 1: time and currently president, and I remember it's comment about
- 47:31Speaker 1: it could make up your mind between him and Trump.
- 47:33Speaker 1: You're not black, well, I mean again, no permanent friends,
- 47:36Speaker 1: no permanent enemies, permanent interests. But he would be at
- 47:39Speaker 1: right now in the Delaware waterfront, on the porch of
- 47:43Speaker 1: his house if it wasn't for black people. It's time
- 47:47Speaker 1: to pay up, and I mean pay up in other
- 47:51Speaker 1: ways by giving us access to economic opportunity. And that's
- 47:55Speaker 1: when we close the wallscap a place like Boston. According
- 47:58Speaker 1: to Federal Reserve, the average household net worth of a
- 48:02Speaker 1: white family in Boston is two hundred and forty seven
- 48:05Speaker 1: thousand dollars. The average household net worth of a black
- 48:08Speaker 1: family is eight dollars eight dollars. That isn't insurmountable, whilst
- 48:14Speaker 1: disparity without affirmative aggressive eight dollars to two hundred and
- 48:21Speaker 1: forty seven thousand, and so you can't solve that by
- 48:26Speaker 1: taking baby steps. Frankly, we can't let these liberal democrats
- 48:30Speaker 1: continue to try to make us comfortable being poor. So
- 48:33Speaker 1: we're gonna have to demand aggressive steps economically, not window dressing,
- 48:40Speaker 1: not hiring a few black people here and there. And
- 48:42Speaker 1: by the way, the other thing, when black people get
- 48:44Speaker 1: in a position of power, they got to help each other.
- 48:47Speaker 1: We cannot get into these positions and sit in them
- 48:51Speaker 1: and then just kind of keep the status quo so
- 48:53Speaker 1: then they can say, see, there, we got a black
- 48:55Speaker 1: person in here, so we're not racist. We're not doing
- 48:57Speaker 1: anything because we can't find any qualified black people. Well,
- 49:00Speaker 1: because if we could, the brother over here or the
- 49:02Speaker 1: sister over here would be doing it, and they're not.
- 49:05Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why my company has
- 49:07Speaker 1: focused on this issue. And I would dare to say
- 49:10Speaker 1: that I am the most outspoken advocate for equal opportunity
- 49:16Speaker 1: and fair treatment for black people in business and finance
- 49:20Speaker 1: and that and also that we got to do it aggressively.
- 49:23Speaker 1: We cannot just sit back here anymore. What do you
- 49:25Speaker 1: what does reparations look like? Yeah, I think that what's
- 49:28Speaker 1: realistic for us is that the entire system of how
- 49:34Speaker 1: our government does business changes, and it is reflective of
- 49:38Speaker 1: population demographics. So if you're in a city that it's
- 49:42Speaker 1: fifty percent black, fifty percent of the government contracts go
- 49:44Speaker 1: to black businesses. If you're a business like you know,
- 49:47Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks or whatever, and you are taking institutional capital
- 49:53Speaker 1: as an investment advisor, then you've got to deploy that
- 49:57Speaker 1: reflective of the population demographics. So if you're running a
- 50:00Speaker 1: national business, black people a thirteen percent of the population,
- 50:03Speaker 1: thirteen percent of the loans have to be made to
- 50:05Speaker 1: black businesses and black people on the same terms that
- 50:07Speaker 1: you make them to the white firms. So we could
- 50:09Speaker 1: do that just a fairness, I mean, we would make
- 50:13Speaker 1: great progress. But what has happened here is that the
- 50:15Speaker 1: impediments to our to us having fair opportunity are compounded
- 50:20Speaker 1: by these obstacles and these injustices. Economically, Oh brother, don
- 50:24Speaker 1: I can't buy no building with fairness. I need some capital, right,
- 50:28Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So as you feel like
- 50:29Speaker 1: America ows there's something tangible, Yes, yeah, I think America
- 50:33Speaker 1: owes us something tangible by giving us capital. Look, I
- 50:37Speaker 1: think there should be some place where there's like a
- 50:40Speaker 1: pool of capital that goes to black people. And yeah,
- 50:47Speaker 1: but not loans should be and if you and if
- 50:49Speaker 1: you execute, you know, and if you execute, then you
- 50:52Speaker 1: don't pay it back exactly right. But I think we
- 50:55Speaker 1: also have to say, okay, what about property that has
- 50:58Speaker 1: to be adjustin the reperate cash reparations were returning a
- 51:02Speaker 1: property needs to take place? All right, when we come back,
- 51:04Speaker 1: we have more with Cheryl McKissick, Daniel and Don Peebles.
- 51:07Speaker 1: So don't move. It's to breakfast Club. Go morning morning,
- 51:09Speaker 1: everybody charge the guy. We all the Breakfast Club was
- 51:14Speaker 1: still kicking it with Cheryl McKissick, Daniel and Don Peebles. Charlemagne,
- 51:18Speaker 1: how difficult is it navigating the construction industry and the
- 51:21Speaker 1: real estate industry as a black person? It's hard knocks
- 51:27Speaker 1: a black woman. Yeah, I mean, Don talked about black
- 51:32Speaker 1: females starting to the most businesses. However, we're still only
- 51:36Speaker 1: two percent of the businesses in New York City. And
- 51:40Speaker 1: so how was I able to build a business in
- 51:43Speaker 1: New York? It was really pushing prime opportunities, not where
- 51:48Speaker 1: I was a sub consultant, you know, working under the
- 51:52Speaker 1: umbrella of a large firm. No, I had to be
- 51:55Speaker 1: the lead person, whether that was a two million dollar
- 51:59Speaker 1: project that turned into a five million dollar project or
- 52:03Speaker 1: ten million dollar project. But that was all a fight
- 52:06Speaker 1: because there are no laws out there for that. You know,
- 52:09Speaker 1: you have to create relationships and you know, convince people
- 52:14Speaker 1: to give you this shot. And that's coming from a
- 52:17Speaker 1: fifth generation company. So I can imagine, oh yeah, two
- 52:20Speaker 1: hundred and thirty years wow, and we're still having to
- 52:23Speaker 1: prove who we are and still not getting the access
- 52:26Speaker 1: that we should get politically. Do you know, do these
- 52:29Speaker 1: politicians come to you, of course to make donations and stuff,
- 52:32Speaker 1: And if so, does that give y'all some type of
- 52:35Speaker 1: power when it comes to them. Yeah, you get y'all
- 52:37Speaker 1: able to demand things from them. So I've been involved
- 52:40Speaker 1: in politics my entire careers. Obama's National Finance Committee for
- 52:45Speaker 1: both of his election, Bill Clinton's as well. What I
- 52:48Speaker 1: learned over the years is that you can have some
- 52:51Speaker 1: access to some people, but even there we get discriminated against.
- 52:57Speaker 1: We're big supporters of many different policy petitians, but they
- 53:01Speaker 1: will be willing to jump over backwards to help a
- 53:06Speaker 1: white business person who is you know, at a high level,
- 53:10Speaker 1: but when it comes to us, they'll decide when they're
- 53:14Speaker 1: going to treat us fairly and when they're not, and
- 53:16Speaker 1: that the money's not as impactful. And it's kind of
- 53:19Speaker 1: a subtlety. And I don't know if I'm explaining it right,
- 53:22Speaker 1: but what I'm saying is that our money isn't as
- 53:25Speaker 1: good as the other people's money when it comes to
- 53:30Speaker 1: many politicians, even if you have the same amount of money,
- 53:33Speaker 1: even if financially y'all on equal footage, you'll tell us
- 53:36Speaker 1: there's a wall between policy and making decisions as a
- 53:41Speaker 1: government leader and your money. And so what I've done,
- 53:46Speaker 1: and that's so fundraising and contributing money is kind of
- 53:49Speaker 1: the carrot. I say, Okay, the carrot doesn't work, I'll
- 53:52Speaker 1: use a stick. So a couple of times that these
- 53:54Speaker 1: people have crossed me and treated me unfairly, I form
- 53:58Speaker 1: a political action committee and I run an independent campaign
- 54:01Speaker 1: against them. And because I figure, if I got some money,
- 54:05Speaker 1: I need to use it at least to level of
- 54:06Speaker 1: playing field for what I'm trying to do. And so
- 54:09Speaker 1: I'm not going to take it on the chin. And
- 54:11Speaker 1: that's the other thing is that they think that they
- 54:13Speaker 1: can threw us over and get away with it. So
- 54:16Speaker 1: I try to send a message no, there's some repercussions
- 54:19Speaker 1: if you treat us unfairly. You think we do ourselves
- 54:22Speaker 1: a disservice by always voting Democrat, always being with one
- 54:25Speaker 1: party against low to one party, Yes, I think. So,
- 54:28Speaker 1: I think we need to vote what policies are important
- 54:31Speaker 1: to us and get them to agree to some concrete things.
- 54:36Speaker 1: So I chaired the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Board, which
- 54:40Speaker 1: is the think tank for the fifty some black members
- 54:43Speaker 1: of Congress and does that legislative weekend in Washington, DC.
- 54:47Speaker 1: So I chaired that last three years of Obama's administration
- 54:51Speaker 1: and then going into trump first year, And I told
- 54:53Speaker 1: the caucus members when Trump came in, I know him
- 54:56Speaker 1: and he's transactional. Go meet with him with a list
- 54:59Speaker 1: of things for black people. Because you all weren't elected
- 55:02Speaker 1: to be Democrats. You were elected to advocate for black people,
- 55:06Speaker 1: your constituents. So go with a list of what your
- 55:09Speaker 1: constituents want and tell him you want this, and ask
- 55:12Speaker 1: him what does he want, and see if there's a
- 55:14Speaker 1: deal to be made. But you can't put the black
- 55:17Speaker 1: agenda on hold for a four to eight years because
- 55:21Speaker 1: you don't like the guy in the office. You got
- 55:23Speaker 1: to play a game of power. You gotta constantly fight
- 55:26Speaker 1: because our agenda can't wait. So we should do business
- 55:29Speaker 1: with whoever we have to to get our program going forward,
- 55:33Speaker 1: and then we can vote again later. The Democratic Party
- 55:37Speaker 1: takes us for granted, and they have for a very
- 55:40Speaker 1: long time. And frankly, we should be on the front
- 55:43Speaker 1: steps of the White House telling Joe Biden this isn't enough.
- 55:47Speaker 1: It's great that you appointed a qualified woman to the
- 55:50Speaker 1: Supreme Court, a black woman, all right, but here's what
- 55:54Speaker 1: we need over in the Supreme Court. Expand the Supreme
- 55:59Speaker 1: Court in a forge ye want to if you want
- 56:01Speaker 1: to really make an impact. But also, he's responsible for
- 56:05Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety four crimes, and I tell him to
- 56:07Speaker 1: his face he's responsible for He's clean it up, and
- 56:11Speaker 1: he has not addressed that yet. And he spoke passionately,
- 56:16Speaker 1: and he was the floor leader in the Senate for
- 56:18Speaker 1: Bill Clinton from the nineteen ninety four crime bill that
- 56:20Speaker 1: led to the mass incarceration of black men and women
- 56:24Speaker 1: and these mandatory sentences that destroyed lives. So he's got
- 56:28Speaker 1: to clean that up. And he's got to clean that up.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Not just what's criminal justice reform, because that's only going
- 56:32Speaker 1: to deal with what's going forward. But secondly, he's got
- 56:35Speaker 1: to make right what he's done our community and our
- 56:39Speaker 1: people since nineteen ninety four, before nineties. Yeah, because you
- 56:42Speaker 1: know the mandatory minimum sentence in the crack laws. That
- 56:45Speaker 1: was the eighties eighties. You're right. Yeah. When I when
- 56:47Speaker 1: I said that to him, I said, um, you know
- 56:48Speaker 1: they led the massive cause race And he said, no,
- 56:50Speaker 1: it didn't. It was the mandatory minimum in the eighties.
- 56:52Speaker 1: I said, when you wrote that too, it was easy
- 56:56Speaker 1: to do business with? Is it Biden or was it
- 56:58Speaker 1: Trump to do business with? I think Trump would would
- 57:01Speaker 1: be easier to do business with because there's no competing
- 57:03Speaker 1: interest and he's a decisive person. I think that the
- 57:06Speaker 1: Democratic presidents have tried to make this Rainbow constituency happy.
- 57:11Speaker 1: So same thing about reparations and minority contracting. This country
- 57:16Speaker 1: owes two classes of people a great debt. It owes
- 57:21Speaker 1: Native Americans a great debt, and then it owes black
- 57:25Speaker 1: people a debt, and it's time to pay that. And
- 57:28Speaker 1: Biden could do that. Frankly, I was disappointed because I
- 57:31Speaker 1: thought that President Obama should have done it. But Trump
- 57:35Speaker 1: is transactional, so you can do business with him today
- 57:40Speaker 1: and be against him tomorrow. He's going to understand that
- 57:42Speaker 1: because he's wise that way. So we have to be
- 57:46Speaker 1: focused on getting business done. And to this point in time,
- 57:50Speaker 1: I can't think about what the President of the United
- 57:53Speaker 1: States has done for black people. And he's been in
- 57:55Speaker 1: office for a year. So how long do we have
- 57:58Speaker 1: to wait for the man that we single handedly put
- 58:02Speaker 1: into office? Right? I agree? And our agenda has always last,
- 58:05Speaker 1: isn't it? Yes? If yeh? Yes, great conversation, Sister Sheryl,
- 58:13Speaker 1: because peoples, I mean that was that was of course.
- 58:17Speaker 1: So what's the call to action to change the five
- 58:20Speaker 1: thousands for that one? But we need everyone to talk
- 58:22Speaker 1: about Affirmation Tower. We need this to be a movement
- 58:25Speaker 1: because this is going to change how we position ourselves.
- 58:29Speaker 1: It's changing a paradigm for black people, not only in
- 58:33Speaker 1: New York but in our nation. And that's the call
- 58:35Speaker 1: to action. They need to call the Governor's office of
- 58:39Speaker 1: New York and say that they support it. They need
- 58:42Speaker 1: to call their their New York City resident or New
- 58:46Speaker 1: York State resident. They need to call their elected officials
- 58:49Speaker 1: and say that they support this project and they support
- 58:52Speaker 1: what it stands for, which is economic opportunity. For black
- 58:56Speaker 1: businesses and going forward, we got to hold any anybody
- 59:00Speaker 1: running for office it wants our support. What are you
- 59:03Speaker 1: going to do for us economically? That's right? What are
- 59:05Speaker 1: you going? How are you going to write this scales
- 59:08Speaker 1: of injustice that we're dealing with, And that's the call
- 59:11Speaker 1: to action. Economic empowerment for our people will lead us
- 59:16Speaker 1: to a much better place because we can. What did
- 59:18Speaker 1: James Brown saying, I don't want nobody to give me
- 59:20Speaker 1: nothing to open the door. I'll get it myself, right, Well,
- 59:22Speaker 1: that's what we want to open the doors of opportunity.
- 59:24Speaker 1: Let us do our thing. We have shown. I want
- 59:27Speaker 1: both done. I want to open the door. I want
- 59:28Speaker 1: something to be sitting on the table when I walk in.
- 59:29Speaker 1: I agree with you, and it should be by the way,
- 59:31Speaker 1: our our ancestors paid for it, and we got nothing
- 59:35Speaker 1: for it. They got nothing for it but extreme oppression.
- 59:39Speaker 1: And so this country owes us a death. The White
- 59:41Speaker 1: House that Biden is sleeping and was built by slaves.
- 59:44Speaker 1: That's right, that's it. Well, we appreciate you, guys man,
- 59:48Speaker 1: and please, anytime y'all want to pull up, pull up,
- 59:51Speaker 1: all right, okay, we will absolutely well, absolute cub good
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- 1:00:00Speaker 1: When it's time to get with someone special, the best
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: way to do it is with Magnum large sized condoms.
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- 1:00:34Speaker 1: they're waiting for Charlomagne to make a judgment. Who was
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: gonna be on the Donkey of the day. They chose
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: you's a breakfast club, bitches, Who's donkey of the day
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: to day? Well, donkey today was to a hiker in
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: Colorado who got lost on a mountain for twenty four hours.
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: Now I know what you're thinking, Why, oh why with
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: Uncle Charla, Brother Lennard give a man who got lost
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: for twenty four hours hiking donkey of the day. Well,
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: it's tough one. It's a tough one because on one hand,
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: I feel him. On the other hand, I'm like, I
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: don't think he wanted to be saved. Let me explain see.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: This man was reported missing after he didn't return from
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: an expedition on October eighteenth on Mount Elbert. Mount Elbert
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: is the highest peak in the state of Colorado. Now,
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: he was lost, clearly, but sometimes folks be lost to us,
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: but to them they just outside, all right, this kind
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: of feels like one of those situations, even though it's not.
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: I know y'all think I sound like Rafiki and the
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: Lion King right now, but listening to me, pay attention
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: follow this because they will all make sense in one second. Now,
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: if people think you're lost, the first thing I would
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: assume to do is call your phone, right. That's what
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: they tried to do to this hiker. And this is
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: where it gets tricky for me, because trust me when
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: I tell you, I feel how this hike could be feeling.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Let's go to KGTV ABC ten for the report. Police.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: We're looking into a story that seems hard to believe.
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: It claims a loss hiker ignored calls from a rescue
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: cruz because he didn't recognize the phone number, and it's
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: actually true. The hiker was reported missing last week after
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: he failed to return from a track on Mount Albert
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: in Colorado, and the Lake County Search and Rescue team
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: says they repeatedly tried calling the hikers cell phone, but
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: the man never answered because he didn't recognize the number.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: The hiker did safely return to his place of lodging
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: twenty four hours later, with no idea that anyone had
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: been looking for him. Raise your hand if you don't
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: answer unrecognized phone numbers, okay, if you're driving, blow the horn,
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: all right. I just assumed that an unrecognized phone number
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: is a bill collector, all right, and you're going to
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: a voicemail that I will never check. Now I have
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: to ask another question, how lost are you really if
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: you don't answer the phone and people are looking for
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: you simply because you don't recognize the phone number. I
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: feel him, Okay, I don't answer the phone for numbers
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: I don't know. In fact, too many numbers I don't know.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Calling me is one of the main reasons I changed
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: my phone number. But here's the thing, I don't know
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: if this hiker necessarily deserves done today. Sounds like the
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: people who were looking for him deserved donkey today because
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: they're trying to save a person that didn't need saving.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: Maybe number one he didn't answer a number he didn't know. Therefore,
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: he clearly wasn't scressing. He clearly didn't think he was
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: in danger. Okay, number two, did you hear to enter
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: the news report? Can he played? Just the end of
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: the news report? It's that way to do that. The
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: hiker spent the night searching for the trail and bouncing
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: between different trails to find what I want. That's that
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: wasn't it At the end of it. At the end
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: of it, they said, he made his way back to
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: his lodging. Right, if this guy was really lost, I
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: can't tell. But if he really was lost, round of
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: applause for his focus, give this mass some applause, right, Okay,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: I mean if I'm lost trying to figure my way back,
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to anyone on the phone either.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: You ever have your GPS going driving but somebody called
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: you and interrupts the GPS, or you're driving and talking
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: and you missing what the GPS is telling you because
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: this person wants to talk on the phone. What your
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: chat about? Okay, I missed me? Exit all right? Asked
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: how this man's brain was working in this moment. He
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: couldn't be bothered. He was too busy bouncing from trail
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: to trail trying to figure things out. Now, let's go
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: to this news report from sacB dot com. Here this
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: one the hiker spent the night searching for the trail
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: and bouncing between different trails to find a trailhead where
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: they had parked. Rescuers said, I don't know if he
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: was lost. I really don't. I really don't know if
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: this man was truly lost. But if he was, like
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: the media is reporting, I need to know his reasoning
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: for not answering his phone because I need that kind
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: of discipline in my life. Can somebody go interview this man,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: Please have a conversation. I need to be able to
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: ignore my phone and other distractions under the rest are
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: not just like you know this individual was. I was
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: always taught desperate people through desperate things, and you know,
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: answering unrecognized phone numbers is an active desperation. So clearly
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: there was nothing desperate about this man because he didn't
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: feel the need to answer his phone while he was
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: so called lost in the mountains. Is a prophet, okay,
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: a beacon of light named Project pat who once said,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: don't save her, she don't want to be saved. I
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: think this applies to this hiker. All right, don't save
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: this man. He didn't want to be saved. As stupid
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: as we want to call this man. If you gotta
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: let a whole be a hole, you gotta let a
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: hiker be a hiker. But we can still give him
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: the credit he deserves for being I guess what we
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: would call stupid. Sometimes people just don't want to be bothered.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: But give this hiker the biggest seat anyway, just in
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: case he was really lost. All right, all you gotta
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: do is pick up the phone and not say anything.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: Pick up the phone, baby, pick up But then but no,
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: that would be if people think you're lost, right and
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: they call your phone, and somebody picks up the phone
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: and don't say nothing. Now they really gonna be described.
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: Now they're gonna really want the law enforcement and everybody.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: You pick up the phone. That's even worse. She's not
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: a It was like a strange phone. So a strange
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: voice picked up my phone, a strange voice picked up
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: his phone. I really think he's in trouble with her.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you would have the whole fairs after
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: everybody would be looking for that person. After that collector.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: All right, well thank you for that. Dog get a day,
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: this club, good morning, the breakfast club. Like nobody has
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: seen what I was doing, you know, But for me,
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: it was kind of like a natural reaction to what
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: was going on, you know what I'm saying, Circle twenty ten,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: twenty eleven. You know a lot of stuff on the
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: radio was like young money dominant. Then they started going
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: west coast with it, you know what I'm saying, And um,
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: I just felt the need that New York needed something
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: that like represented it again. And yeah, now it's just
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: kind of part of my DNA radio at that time,
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: I know that. Well, you know, I was a kid.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: I hated everything. I hated a little everything. I didn't
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: want to have talked to nobody. I wouldn't see nobody.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: I had no type of gauge on really what was
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: going on into the magnitude of how it was going.
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: Why did it take so long? Why why ten years
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: between projects? Oh no, it wasn't to you five years
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: ago American, right, but five years is a long time
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: too in this business. Why five years? Man? It wasn't
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: no specific reason, Like it wasn't like I finished my
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: last time. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna take five
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: years or nine. It just it just happened that way, man.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: You know, I was experimenting, trying to find a new direction,
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: trying to figure out which way I wanted to go.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: In addition, I had my first kid, you know, my daughter,
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: she's four years old now, started doing a lot of
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: TV and film stuff started taking off. So it was
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: just really getting used to a new balance. And then
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: the pandemic set me back. Like I had a project,
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: but when the pandemic started, I got connected with myself
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: in a different way, you know, and it became a
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: whole different thing, you know. So it's just it's kind
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: of the way it lined up. But I'll tell you this,
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: like I ain't never playing on going away for that
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: long again. How did you get into acting? For people
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: that don't know, I was a theater student in high school.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: I went to Edward Armorro. I had like audition for
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: a bunch of different trauma theater programs. Because when I
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: was coming up, when I when it was time for
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: me to go to high school, like I always was
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: into music, but at the time, there was no program
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: to go to like work on my rap skills or
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: the Rapper show. My next like best thing to me
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: was film. They kicked me out after myself more year
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: though for what my attendance is just poor. I was
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: like one out of three black kids. And the great
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: thing about that is I was one out of three
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: black kids. It was me and the homie Sadiq who
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: played ghost Face, who ten wow, So it was dope.
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that, Yeah, you know what
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: I mean, connecting back with him the whole full circle joint.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: Did you ever think you would lose your rap identity
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: as Joey Badass playing back to Day? Um? No, I
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: think I was gonna lose my rap identity. But that
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: is a good question because I was always reluctant about
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: playing roles that were too close to who I am
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: in real life. But when I got off of that,
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: you know, it's wou tang like that's a big honor.
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: And then Rizzi has been one of my mentors in
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: this game for a long time, so I definitely wanted
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: to come through for him, like I felt he's come
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: through for me a lot of the time. But you know,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: then I got power and then I got on viv
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: Or foul Tan. Tell me about the jay Z connection
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: because you referenced that a couple of times on the
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: album will make you feel and I might be popt it,
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: but you say peepe game like Jay, That's that's why
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: he didn't sign me. That's why I didn't. He didn't
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: sign us. Get the Game at Bay. Like the forty
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: nine ers, Jay's like an idol. I read his book
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: The Coded, and that line was inspired by piecing the
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: coda when he said he met with Russell Simmons for
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: the first time, and he details experience as him like
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: remembering sitting at that table and looking at them and
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: thinking to himself like damn, like I don't want to
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: be signing these. I want to beat these. Be a
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: first conversation with Jay, you first sit down with him. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: I was seventeen years old. I was in Denvil. He
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: flew me back out to New York to meet with him,
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: and you know, it was a funny little so I
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: walked in and I'm like, yes, like whatever it is.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: It was a dope experience, man, because at seventeen years old,
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: I felt so limitless. It was probably like when I
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: was fifteen or sixteen, Like I visualized in my mind
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: like I want to be signed at jay Z. So
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: when I was growing up in that rock Nation building,
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: like a year or two later, I'm like, damn, I
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: could do anything. I'm already in alignment with my idol.
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: Anything is possible. Did he tell you why he didn't
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: sign y'all? It's funny like I always see him now
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: and I'll be wanting to have that conversation, but the time,
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: I feel like the time never permits, like where we act,
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: But I'd be wanting to ask him that I was
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: so young at the time, and to me, there was
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: no reason to not sign at jay Z, but you know,
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: there was other factors involved and like that. So I'm
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: not really sure what exactly happened, because based off the album,
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: it seems like y'all used to be up there a lot,
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: like skateboarding in front of the building. Well, yeah, they
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: showed us a lot of love. And know what I'm saying,
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: to this day, you know, he looks out for me,
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: shows me a lot of love. So it's just always
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: been um more like three degrees of separation. And I
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: like what you said about this being a reintroduction to
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: Joy Badass, because you do tell so much about yourself.
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: You talk about your cousin Richie rich writing your writing
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: your first rap? Yeah, what kind of battery did that?
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: Putting your back? He just like really gave me structure,
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he taught me how
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: to count balls and all like. And then you know,
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: I had other older cousins who's a rapping like that.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: For a long time, it was a running joke because
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I used to always tell them, yo, y'all,
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: y'all need to bring me to the studio and then
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: blew up and I was like, oh, yeah, you remember
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: writing your first rap? Nah? Nah, But it must have
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: been like first grade because that's when I was introduced
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: to poetry and I identified it as like I was like, oh,
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: this is that biggie doing. That's like what my brain said,
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And from there I got
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: into poetry. But I will always do like rap style poems.
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: But I remember the first time I spent that verse
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: that my cousin wrote for me for my mom's I
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: was like nine years old and something like my name
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: is little Jay and I got the nine you messed
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: with me and I blow off your mind. They hating cousins.
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: I'll be on my ground and I always shine while
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: you're acting like yourself clocks for I put a pipe
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: bomb in your mailbox something like that, Right, I'm not.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: I don't know. Na. She even staff for me. She
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: was like, do you know what a nine is? I
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: was like, I'm to me, I'm like, I'm nine, so
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: it just sounds nine years old for me. I'm like, nah.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: She was like, it's a gun. First of all. I
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: was like word. And then she gave me the realist advice.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: She was like, Yo, look, if you want to do this,
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: you could do that, but you just gotta be true
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: to yourself. And from there I just kind of took
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: that in rand with about the pipe mall nah. I
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: think she kind of figured out that it wasn't my words,
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Somebody else was involved in that.
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: All right. We got more with Joey Badass when we
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: come back, don't Move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning,
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: Everybody's DJ Envy Charlemagne the guy we are to Breakfast
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: Club was still kicking it with Joey Badass. Charlemagne. No,
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: I love written in the stars too. You mentioned your
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: daughter earlier you said your daughter was your wake up call.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: What did that wake up call look like? Do you? Yeah?
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: You know, I felt so obligated in earlier years in
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: my career to take kid people to the point where
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: a lot of the times it burned me out, feeling
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: like guilt survive is guilt and things of that nature.
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: But you know, when my baby girl came, it was like, oh, Okay,
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: this is really the only person I'm responsible for, you
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And now that she's his different
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: Like if you can't respect that, Dan, you know, we
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: can't even be cool no more. How's your life change?
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: How do you move differently now that you have a girl? Well? Yeah,
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: you know, definitely more focused, Definitely more intention and everything
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: that I do, especially when it comes to you know, spending,
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: and you know, I say, it made me more patient,
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: It made me more gentle, It made me more willing
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: to learn and listen. How did you change your overall
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: perspective of women? Definitely, Like you know, from time to
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: time I would have the thought like I wouldn't with
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: my daughter to you know what I'm saying, being in
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: a situation like that, So it definitely kind of gives
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: you a heightened state of awareness when it comes to
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: that interaction. But I mean, I've always been a super
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: respectful man anyway, but like you know, with my baby
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: girl in my life, it definitely kind of shased my
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: mind in a way, like, let me try to be
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: more like the version of the man that I would
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: want my baby girl to grow up. Man, you know,
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: be with deal with Do you ever look at it
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: like I was this way as a man and now
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: I gotta change because I don't want my daughter to
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: like that as a man. Yes and no, because you know,
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: life is about growth. You know, nobody's gonna come straight
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: off with a tree like Bompart like, nah, you got experience,
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: and you know I want I don't want none of
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: that to be hidden from my child, Like I don't
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: want her to ever view life as a thing where
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: you could skip steps and still get by. You know,
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: we all got we all got all types of childhood
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: traumas that we couldn't even run from if we tried to.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: These are the things that affect us saying. You know
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: what I'm saying, ultimately shape who we are, you know
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: what I mean. But as long as you know you
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: got that growth mindset or as long as whoever she's
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: with got that growth mindset, then I got some patience,
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: you know, I got some sympathy now in the baddest.
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: First of all, you and you and Diddy seem like
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: y'all have a strong relationship. Absolutely. Now did he get
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: so cool and so close? Man? I met Diddy twenty
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: sixteen coming out to Rihanna met Gala after party and
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: one no, he was walking out. I was walking in
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: and he was just like, Yo, King, I'm been trying
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: to connect with you for years, Like I was trying
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: to sign you back in the day, and I'm like,
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: this is all news to me, you know what I mean,
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: It's first time. I mean, you know, I'm like, wow, work.
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: And in that same week I had rolled it out
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: in Miami and then I ran into him again, and
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: if from there it was just like we would just
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: roll dogs, you know what I'm saying, Like he would
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: be going some Yoto, I'm being in New York, b
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: wonna pull up and we just kind of developed that
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: relationship like that, and it's like I'm CP two that
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: is strangers too, Yeah, exactly because of me, you know
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: what I mean. I got him on that project. I
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: got him involved, I made a phone call. I'm super
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: grateful for that relationship because me, I'm a sponge. So
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: it's like, you bring me around at the right wounds
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: and tables, like I ain't taking that for granted. I'm connecting,
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: I'm network and I'm you know what I'm saying, I'm
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: using the opportunity fruitfully, you know what I mean, as
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: it should be. So the fact that he could identify
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: that in me, I'm very appreciative of that. You know,
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: he did the intro and the outro. On the oultro,
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: he said something to the effect of, we got to
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: bring that New York feeling back. Are those conversations that
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: y'all have? And do you think that you can actually
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: bring you back? If you live in someplace like Miami
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: or LA, don't you gotta be here? Yeah? I think
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: you gotta be here for show because you gotta connect
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: with the pulse of the city. You know. Um, what
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: was the question? The question was, do you all have
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: those conversations about bringing the feeling back? Oh? Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah,
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: me and Puff we've spoken about that over the years, Like,
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: you know, I'll play him some songs. He's like yeah,
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: like this is the vible, this ain't the vibe, or
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: you should do this, you should go more here, you know,
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: but that's usually the focus of the conversation, you know
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We're always trying to stay in that essence.
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: He still got to end. Fifty said, did he don't
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: got no air? No more? Fifty said, did he ain't
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: got no that's a that's a lot puff. I feel
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: like he always gonna have an ear. Now you can
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: tell that you've really been doing the work on yourself
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: mentally too, you know what I mean, Like you go
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: to therapy, I do, Okay, you'll go to therapy. Um,
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: I started going to therapy back at twenty twenty. You know.
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: As unfortunate as that pandemic was for a lot of people,
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I definitely don't want
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: to be in sensitive when I say this, but for me,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: I needed that. I didn't know stillness in my adult life.
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: Like I hit the ground running that seventeen years old,
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: I was still a kid. I didn't realize for about
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: five six years, I didn't stop, you know what I mean.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: So when I finally got that space in that time,
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: it's like I just went real deep inside, you know
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: what I mean, and I realized things that I needed.
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I need that repet you know
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I need to be held accountable
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: for my shortcomings. I need those to be pointed out
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: to me because I'm what you call a self improvement junk,
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: Like I'm committed and devoted to being a better version
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: of myself every time I show up. You could see
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: the evolution in all the breakfast club interviews. I think
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: this is our third one. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: So I pride myself on that, you know. So therapy
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: was definitely an outlet that I saw to bring me
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: closer to a higher self awareness and just state of being.
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: What how did you decide to do it? That decision? Well,
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: you know, I've always been open minded, and I started
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: to resonate with the idea that black people therapy being
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: so tabooed to us. What it was is I was
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: introduced to the concept of emotional intelligence and that kind
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: of blew my mind. That opened so many doors for
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: me because I'm like, wow, like we really wasn't taught
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: this how important it is to identify your own emotions
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: in relation to the people around you. You know what
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, we might just wake up in a
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: bad mood and you wearing that moved and now your
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: household is feeling that move, and you don't even realize
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: you just passed that mood on to your son. Now
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: your son is in school with that move, and he
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: passing that on to you. Know what I'm saying, Like energy,
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: Energy is so contagious, And once I kind of like
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: realized that, it started to open little pathways in my brain,
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: like them even identifying with frustration as an emotion. If
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: you tell a black man, yo, you're being emotional, that's
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: like a fa. But people don't realize that. Yo. If
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: you're angry, if we're having a conversation, you're just screaming
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: because you're mad. You're in your emotion. You know what
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: I'm saying. People get emotionally hijacked every day, be every
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: day like blinded by emotion, blinded by rage. So I
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: just kind of started on that path for understanding myself more.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: Because I grew up I had like anger issues and
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: stuff like that. It was hard to me to identify
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: a lot of things that I was feeling did you
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: figure out where that anger came from? None that I
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: think about it, looking in the high sight, I think
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: a lot of it came from when my parents split,
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: me not knowing how to process that and then manifesting
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: something else, like me trying to find a reason for elsewhere,
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I can't that same realization
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: in therapy, Like I didn't realize how much my parents
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: divorcing had impacted me, and how angry I was at
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: my pops for that word up at the do something
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: of you, especially as a black man, you know what
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: I mean, because now you got that separation from your
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: father and it's like you need your father, or as
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: a black man, especially in this world, you had that
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: conversation with your pops. Because you know, one of the
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: best things that helped me was having a conversation with
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: my pops and realizing that he was going to therapy
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: two or three times a week. Back in the day
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: he tried to kill himself. Back in the day he
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: was on tend to twelve different medications. It made me
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: give him more grace because I realized, damn, he was
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: somebody before he was my parents, right, and you know,
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: he was just doing the best he could, but what
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: he had, Yeah, you know, I have to. I have
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: great conversations for my dad all of the time, and
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: it's like I have my own interpretations of it because
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: my understanding and his understanding is definitely different, and it's
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: like a generational difference. And I came to kind of
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: growing accept that because what fulfills me, what I appreciate,
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: what I'm grateful for is that I could hear my
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: old man's wisdom, you know what I mean. And it's
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: like it's up to me to interpret that however I
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: see fit. But just being able to hear that, Like,
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: you know, I might feel a little bit more spiritually
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: advanced than my dad, but I could never be more experienced,
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that alone just make
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: me so grateful for any time we connect, you know
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I feel like it's a meeting
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: of the minds and you can learn from anybody. All Right,
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: we got more with Joey Badass when we come back.
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, a breakfast
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: Club morning. Everybody is DJ envied Charlemagne, the guy we
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: are to Breakfast Club. Were still kicking it with Joey
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: Badass Charlemagne. Do you really meditate every day? You say
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: that on the album, So you meditate everything? Na, it's
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: hard to meditate every day, like you know, that's more
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: of like a manifestation. I would like to meditate every
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: day at a point, I was, you know, in the
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: Pandemic for show. But one thing I try to do
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: is pray every day because I feel like it's a
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: form of you know, meditation or just a form of
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: being able to like program you're thinking in the right way.
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: What did you see about it? Because I always say,
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: you know, the pandemic, like you said earlier, made all
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: of us be still for the first time. A lot
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: of us had to like really be still for the
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: first time and deal with ourselves. Couldn't run from our
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: traumas or nothing. What did you see that I made
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: you be like, oh no, I gotta go do some
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: work on myself. I saw how much I was settling
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: for the short end of the stick. Like you know,
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: I spent a lot of the like the first half
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: of my career really focused and obliged to taking care
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: of other people, and in that I put a lot
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: of people before myself. So when the pandemic, it kind
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: of put things in perspective to me. It's like, damn,
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: I got I did this one for that one, that
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: one for this one, But what the do I have
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: to show for myself? And then that was a whole
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: reset because then I came out the pandemic selfish, but
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: in the best way possible, because I've never been that person.
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: It is evident too, like I'm glad you noticed that.
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: You said, Yo, you look healthy, Like this is what
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: I look like when I'm focused on myself. Did the
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: pandemic finally give you the opportunity to grieve? Steve's the
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: right way? It definitely gave me opportunities. But I don't
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: I don't know this this this grieving, is it a
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: complete process? Does it get I don't know if it's
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: a complete process. But I was gonna say when I
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: listened to Survivor's Guild, I feel like you have finally
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: started processing. Yes, you know his death. This is the
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: first year where I definitely feel a little bit of peace,
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's ten years later, but
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: just with Stesus, I'm still majorly grieving my cousin junior.
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: Then how are you processing it, like, you know, did
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: it make you look at Because I had a friend
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: committed suicide in twenty twenty, and when she did that,
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: it made me look at suicide differently. It definitely brought
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: me to a very dark place. And you know me,
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: I'm very intuitive, So something inside me told me because
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: I remember coming from the funeral for me and c
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: J was on the way back to the crib and
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: I remember telling him like, yo, bro, we gotta be
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: strong for everybody else because it's easy to fall right now.
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: And I got pulled into that. Even after saying it,
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: even after having that a witness and that understanding that
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: I couldn't go there, I still got sucked into that,
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It brought me out of
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: very low, low place. I was depressed, like I felt
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: so many ways. I'm like, damn, like seventeen years old,
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: Like I know so many people who were so much
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: older than me, and they've never lost somebody this close
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: to them, you know what I mean. It was just
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: it was a lot of unsettling emotions and feelings and
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: at the same time, dealing with fame for the first time,
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: dealing with you know what I'm saying, Like the ills
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: of that it was bucked. That's a natural though. I'm
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: sure your therapists told you that you gotta light something
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: to feel your feels, like, yeah, and that's what I
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: realized too. Like, first of all, I'm grateful for the
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: fact that I was able to put a lot of
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: my trauma off because I was so busy, because I
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: don't know what I would have did with that idle time,
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I was hotly depressed,
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: Like I felt suicidal all of that, you know what
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: I mean. Like I was very convinced that I wasn't
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: gonna live past twenty five. Like at seventeen eighteen, I
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: was very convinced to that. I'm like, it's no way,
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: Like I didn't see life after twenty five. Even when
- 1:25:56Speaker 1: I turned twenty five, I was a mind for me
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: because I'm like, damn, I did not visualize life this far. Wow.
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: And then right there I drew up a twenty year plan.
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: Did you look at suicide differently because a lot of people,
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: especially in New York it's probably all of the world,
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: but especially in New York. When growing up as a kid,
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: when you think of suicide, the first thing that people
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: think is your soft for your week. But then when
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: you start having those emotions in that feeling, you realize
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: its far from that. First of all, it's weird to
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: say this, but like I think suicide is an incredibly
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: brave thing. You have to have a lot of audacity
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: to do that to yourself, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: And then it's like to withstand that pain or whichever way,
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: like you know, like it's heavy, but it's like there's
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: nothing soft about that, nothing at all, you know what
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I remember when I was at that point,
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: I'm feeling low, and like as low as I was feeling,
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: as convinced I was that like I didn't really want
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: to live. I couldn't find that courage to actually do it.
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: My home girl, Jazz, rest in peace. She did it
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: in twenty twenties, completed suicide. That's what these say to say,
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: shanty dark. But Jazz said she was so intentional and
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: so calculated and so strategic that when she did it,
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: in my mind, I processed it like she just knew
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: it was her time to go. Like, you know, I've
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: never had that feeling like it's time for me to exit,
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: you know. But even if you go look at her Twitter,
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: she was saying things like I wonder what my next
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: life is gonna be like and things like that. So
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: something came over her where she knew today is my day.
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: You ste It was the same way with Steves, you
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he definitely was vocal about
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: it leading up to it happening, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: and like when it was just it was weird man
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: that the deport buying that new portion nine eleven? Did
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: it really help your mental health? That's you say on that,
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: Yeah a little bit, you know what I'm saying, because
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta show yourself like what you can, like
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: achieved like it with it being a superficial item and
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: a material thing. To me, it was more represented me
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: having a goal, you know, and me proving myself once again,
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: like anything that's possible, Like that was my dream car
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: and I could have got it for a long time,
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: but then one day I just decided, y'all gonna do it,
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: And yeah, it really did something from my state of being,
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: my state of mind, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: I had to put to myself, like I know, all
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: I gotta do is be connected to the source. But
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: now I need to pouh. Now what I love about you,
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: Joey Man is like when when you see a black
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: man doing the work it does reflecting his life, it
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: reflecting the way he looks, and reflecting his career professionally.
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: Just probably your best body of work album. Why you
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: see what you're doing in Hollywood. So that's why, man,
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: when I see you, when I see that and I
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: hear you telling these stories about going to therapy and everything,
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: I'm like, that's gonna convince so many more black men
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: to go go do the work. Absolutely. Man. It's like,
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: you know, I always probably myself on being some type
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: of role model because it's like with this position I got,
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: with this stature, with this platform, it's like I got
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: so many people listening, and I feel like the least
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: I could do is implant seeds that will sprout, like,
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: you know, more opportunity for these people, or just you know,
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: wisdom that will transcend you into the right directions for
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: these people and stuff like that, and also just making
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: them not feel alone. Like I realized that, like my
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: most relatable work is my most vulnerable work, and usually
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- 1:29:48Speaker 1: It's topic time called eight hundred five eight five one five.
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: Want to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: Talk about it, everybody, DJ Envy, Charlomagne, the guy. We
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: are the breakfast Club. Now if you just joined us,
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: we're talking about Kevin Gates and open up the phone
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: lines eight hundred and five A five one oh five
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: one now. Kevin Gates post posted this on Twitter yesterday.
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: If a woman comes in the bathroom, it talks to
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: me while I'm taking an ish. I find that very romantic.
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: Now do you like when your wife comes in the bathroom?
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: It has a conversation with you. Absolutely not. That's not
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: something that we do. I hate poop, first of all,
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: don't like it. I know everyone does it, but it's
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: literally one of my least favorite things to do. I
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: don't look at it when it's in the toilet. I
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: know some people like to look at it and make
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: sure it's like, you know, in the shape of the
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: Superman logo, like I don't do. Yeah, I don't do
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: none of that, you know what I mean. I think
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: when you are moving vows, it's a sacred experience and
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: you should expel ways by yourself. I don't want my
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: wife in the bathroom with me while I'm pooping. There's
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: nothing cute about that. It's nothing sexy about that. I
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: mean to me, Kevin Gates, that sends to him to
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: each his own, and to me, No, yeah, I feel
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: the same. I don't. I don't see nothing sexy with
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: I don't want to have a conversation. Although I set
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: up shot when I go to the back from though,
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: like I said, like, I'm not in the bathroom for
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: like thirty seconds, I'm magazine. Nah, not me, Nah, I
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: got my phone. No, I'm too old. Something that I
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: might be paying my bills. What I'm doing, like, I
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: really take my time, like I sometimes I'm on that
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: so a lot on my feet, fall to sleep. That
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: happens to me all the time. And I don't even
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: gotta be on there long. That's why I don't do
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: it any more. I meant to get I like them
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: step stools. My sister Alicia, and they told me a
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: long time ago to get one of them stools. Like
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: it's like a squatty party there you go when you
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: put your legs up while you're pooping, so you put
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: your legs up wi you pool. That's too that's just
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: too much. But I will tell you that when I
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: got a calonic, I did that. It was amazing. I'm
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Did you like what the calonic part?
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: I like the whole process. I mean it's a little uncomfortable,
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: but I'm talking about like when the after year the
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: calonic is done, you gotta go sit on the toilet
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: and the calonic place and she had a squatty party
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: in there, and I'm not gonna lie, man. I don't
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: know if it was the calinic of the squatty party,
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: but it dumped like you dump dump dump, you know
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: what I mean. If it was, it felt good and
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: my legs weren't sleepy when I got up. I'm glad
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: you find a good but yeah, answer your question. No,
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: I don't want my woman in the bathroom with you
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: while I'm taking the pool. And I don't want to
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: be in there with her what she's taking? Collo? Who's this? Hey?
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: This is representing the ball? Yeah, what's up? Bro? We're
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: talking about, uh, you know, pooping in front of your partner.
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: All right, so check this out. Think about it. Normally,
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: how many people have you pooped in front of what?
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: I've not even very few, nobody besides my wife. And
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: this is when when it has to happen. But I
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: don't think I've ever pooped in front of my wife.
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: My mama went out of the baby right with athlete.
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: So the highest level of intimately, it's pooping in front
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: of the partner. No, it's not no more intimate than that.
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: That is not true like romantic, that's just simply not true. Romantic.
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: And only my wife only comes in the bathroom. She
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: has so like it might like she might need something
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: out the bathroom, and when she comes in there, she's
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: coming there like full gas mask on like ah, and
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: by your logic, you might as well walk around with
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: a dipe on and let your wife change you and
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: wipe you and all kinds of stuff that to meet too. Absolutely,
- 1:33:02Speaker 1: have a blessed day, sir, Have a blessed don't king shaming,
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: Have a blessing. Don't kink shaming. Hello, who's this and
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: what's going on? This is? This is lit? I'm going
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: to radio. It's lit. It's lit. You're poop in front
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: of your partner? Oh bro, I'm sorry if you're poop
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: in front of your partner. Um, yeah, I do. Definitely
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: you got you because that lets you know that that's
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: a you got a real one. That means definitely down
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: for the boy. Y'all got some y'all got some weird
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: ways to make sure that your woman is a real No,
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: because you know you, I mean because you have to,
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: because that's something natural of people be like ill, Like
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like when you first start
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: dating somebody like you, you know how many fought you
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: holding that's not healthy. You gotta let it out so
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: somebody that you could feel comfortable with that let you you.
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: You couldst of all and all that we have conversations.
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: First of all, I don't fight in my clothes. That's
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: number one. Number two, why would you want to fart
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: around anybody? That's just disrespectful. Like it's just like nobody
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: just sits around and farts. You ain't never just been
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: in the casual conversation with a person and they just
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: maybe when you was a kid, but when you're an adult,
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: you don't do stuff like that. So why would you
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: do that around your wife? So this is what I
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: do when if I'm in public and I gotta fart,
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: I just I just stop away. I just say, excuse me,
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: I'll stepped to the side, fart and let it air out,
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: wait about a couple of seconds, because you don't want
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: it to linger in them to respect, that's respect, that's respect.
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you give you a woman that same respect?
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: Why would you fart in front of her just because
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: you think you can. That's just disrespectful for you. While
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: we've been together phone, while I'm saying you fart, you
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: gotta let you gotta go, you gotta go that it's
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: a family member. At this point, If y'all I'm saying no,
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: they'll show you far in front of your wife. Not
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: on purpose. Yeah, but you gotta let it go if
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's it's a chemical imbalance when
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: you hold that. I mean, I don't far in front
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: of me. I don't fight my clone. Yeah, I will fall.
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: I would pass gas from my wife and my kids
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: and my family, not me. I ain't issued in front
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: of her. I'm not gonna. Hey, babe, let's add this
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: conversation in the bathroom. I'm pooping. I'm not gonna do that.
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: Wait real quick, I just want to say this. I
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: want to keep you on too long. You know, I've
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: been calling the the radio since I was a kid.
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: This is my first time I ever get into it.
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: That's wild. This is gonna be a good day today.
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: Help me on the Gramm, Charlotte, and I'm every following
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: me on the Graham. All right, all right, I won't
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: say the beauty of having young kids that I you know,
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta. I got a six year old
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: and a tune to be three year old. Like, if
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: you do accidentally fart, you can always blame it on them.
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: I do that all the time. Hello, this, Hey, what's up?
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: Just a big loop from Myrtle Beach. Hey, what's up, brother,
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach talking about man partner? Huh, I got the
- 1:35:34Speaker 1: sick man. I thought about this and I got to say, yeah,
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: I did. Finally the first time it happened, I thought
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: she was the one because back in high school I
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: was at can't I couldn't poop in front of everybody,
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: so I had to go to the bull Tech Builders.
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: So I felt like if I felt that comfortable around her,
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: she was the one. Why would you have to poop
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: in front of everybody? Sir? You know when you go,
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: you know, kids during hot school the man, I'm sure
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: you got trauma time. I'm when, oh, you go to
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: the regular bathroom and if you're poop in high school,
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: everybody comes to open the door. Nothing, dude, do whatever
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: you know. I can honestly say, and this is not
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: a lie. I've never pooped in high school. I never
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: pooped in the bathroom in high school. You held it
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: till you came home. I just never had to in school.
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: I don't know why my bows got a lot more
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: regular as I got older in school. I never, I never,
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: I never pooped in high school. If you have a
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: strong stomach, because that pez sa me lott surprise had
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: me going, man after the third period. But wait when
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: you come out and you came out of ninety four, Dan,
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: that's I came out of ninety or ninety eight. But
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: I supposed to be ninety six, so damn yeah, I
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: don't remember pooping in high school. I also just want
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: to say, man, I love the positivity your brothers keep
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: it going. I appreciate it, and it keeps me going
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: every day. Man, thank you king. All right, what's the
- 1:36:45Speaker 1: all of the story. More of the story is to
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: each his own. You know what I'm saying. I'm just
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: telling you what I don't do. You know what I mean.
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: Kevin Gates, that's what works with him and his queen.
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: You know, me and my queen roll a different way.
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: That's all. But once again, I don't like poop. I
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: don't even like to be in the bathroom with myself
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: when I poop. Breakfast Club, then barning everybody is DJ
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne, the guy we are the breakfast club.
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: All right, Well, you got a positive note. Now the
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: positive note is simply this after getting what you manifested,
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: because this is very important Everybody want to have their
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: vision boards and manifest things. And you know a lot
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: of us get those things that we manifest, but after
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: getting what you manifested, ask for discipline to keep it
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: and wisdom to multiply it. Have a blessed day. Breakfast
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: club bitches. You know I'm finish for y'all. Dumb