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Real Housewife Cults, Toxic Moms & Fake Babies With Up And Adam · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 1: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 1: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 1: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
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  Speaker 1: click and collect.
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 1: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: When you're on the road, when you're on the go.
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales,
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  Speaker 4: Fast to the number one tabloid real-life podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 1: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, we, as always,
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  Speaker 4: have a jam-packed show. The way the show is gonna
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  Speaker 4: go is I'm gonna give you a quick update on
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  Speaker 4: a couple of things. And then I did a ton
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  Speaker 4: of hot topics that are funny and interesting that involve
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  Speaker 4: celebrities and moms and so much juicy stuff, including Oprah.
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  Speaker 4: And then I did a great interview with Up and Adam.
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  Speaker 4: Adam is a great YouTuber. He's been on my show.
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  Speaker 4: But he's also the star of the very much talked
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  Speaker 4: about HBO Max documentary about Mary Cosby, star of Real
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  Speaker 4: Housewives of Salt Lake City and her alleged cult slash
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  Speaker 4: church and how he got involved and how they chose
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  Speaker 4: him and all the knowledge he has. And we get
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  Speaker 4: into a lot about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City
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  Speaker 4: in general in that conversation. So that is all on
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  Speaker 4: today's episode. First, I just want to give you a
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  Speaker 4: quick update on the Rob Reiner case. His son, Nick Reiner,
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  Speaker 4: did appear in court today. He is no longer on
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  Speaker 4: suicide watch. However, Alan Jackson, the famed defense attorney, former L.A.
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  Speaker 4: prosecutor turned defense attorney for Karen Reed, who had taken
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  Speaker 4: over the case the minute they heard, he has stepped
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  Speaker 4: down from the case. He is now going to be
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  Speaker 4: with the public defender, Kimberly Green, who has 19 years experience.
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  Speaker 4: And Alan said, we are committed to doing whatever we can.
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  Speaker 2: We believe.
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  Speaker 4: That he is innocent of murder based on his circumstances,
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  Speaker 4: but we are no longer part of the case. So
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  Speaker 4: that can be whatever. People close to his brother and
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  Speaker 4: sister say that they are not making any comment. Some
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  Speaker 4: would speculate that they don't want to pay for a
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  Speaker 4: private attorney. And they just want the courts, they don't
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  Speaker 4: want to push something in any other way and just
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  Speaker 4: want it to go with the public defenders. But that's
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  Speaker 4: where we're at, and he did appear in court. So
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  Speaker 4: do you want to give a little update on that?
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  Speaker 4: Also on Tuesday's show, I misspoke. It's something I sometimes
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  Speaker 4: do when I'm rambling off a lot of hot topics.
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  Speaker 4: And in talking about a lawsuit in which a second
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  Speaker 4: man has filed a lawsuit against the writer, director, and
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  Speaker 4: actor Tyler Perry, I misspoke and said Tyler Henry. Tyler
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  Speaker 4: Henry is a psychic medium and he has nothing to
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  Speaker 4: do with any kinds of lawsuits at all. So I
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  Speaker 4: just wanted to apologize for that. And I made that
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  Speaker 4: flip of the words, whatever, made a mistake. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: sorry for that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's it.
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  Speaker 4: So now let's get into some more hot topics here
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  Speaker 4: on Juicy Scoop. And then after that, we'll have Adam.
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  Speaker 4: Rachel Zoe of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recently admitted
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  Speaker 4: one reason she left styling was because she was betrayed
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  Speaker 4: by assistants. I found this to be really interesting. We
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  Speaker 4: know that Brad Gorgetzky was her very famous assistant on
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  Speaker 4: the Rachel Zoe project, if you watched it back then.
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  Speaker 4: And when I interviewed her, that's always like, don't ask
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  Speaker 4: me about Brad. We never talked about Brad. She's never
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  Speaker 4: said his name again. She just says, we just have
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  Speaker 4: never talked. It's really interesting because I wonder if they've
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  Speaker 4: ever run into each other, been at the same party.
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  Speaker 4: They must have, but maybe it really hasn't happened that often.
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  Speaker 4: I recently saw a video about where someone says, do
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  Speaker 4: you ever notice when someone is out of your life
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  Speaker 4: and they really are meant to be out of your life,
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  Speaker 4: you actually don't run into them? And you're like, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: How has it been that we live in the same neighborhood?
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  Speaker 4: And when we were friends, I used to run into
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  Speaker 4: you at coffee and da, da, da. And now I
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  Speaker 4: like haven't run into that person in five years.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of an interesting like how the universe works matrix
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  Speaker 4: kind of a thing. But that is why she got
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  Speaker 4: out of it. I also think she built so many brands.
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  Speaker 4: She didn't need to be flying around catering to dressing
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  Speaker 4: stars when she herself became a star. And I personally
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  Speaker 4: think if my stylist became a big star on television
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  Speaker 4: and had their own TV show and they were their
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  Speaker 4: own famous person, Would I want that person styling me?
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  Speaker 4: Because I kind of want to be more of a priority.
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  Speaker 4: And if they're coming with, you know, multiple cameras and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So I kind of think, I wonder if that's really
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  Speaker 4: the truth or it all sort of worked out where
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  Speaker 4: it's like, I feel betrayed by assistants, but also I
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  Speaker 4: don't need to style people anymore because I'm my own star,
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  Speaker 4: which is true. Speaking of real housewives at Beverly Hills,
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  Speaker 4: former housewife, Denise Richards, her horrific husband, divorcee, hopefully divorced
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  Speaker 4: husband to be. They finally got him out of the
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  Speaker 4: house that I don't know if they were renting or what,
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  Speaker 4: but it was like under her name. He and his
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  Speaker 4: brother and his mother and his father, and they, they benefited.
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  Speaker 4: And now His mother has started a GoFundMe.
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  Speaker 2: This is real.
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  Speaker 4: Please help my son Aaron, a grandmother's cry for justice.
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  Speaker 4: So he and his family are asking for public help
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  Speaker 4: after being evicted from the Los Angeles mansions he once
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  Speaker 4: shared with Denise, following a court ruling in favor of
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  Speaker 4: the landlord. So somebody else owned the house, finally got
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  Speaker 4: him out. Aaron's mother, Patricia, has launched a GoFundMe. So
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  Speaker 4: I guess because she's a grandmother, she's like, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: grandmother and my son has no place to live. So
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  Speaker 4: she's asking for a hundred grand. And as of a
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  Speaker 4: little while ago, I think, no, they're asking for 110,
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  Speaker 4: kind of a weird number. And from a few days ago,
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  Speaker 4: they were at like 1300. People are giving, people are giving. Also,
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  Speaker 4: Mickey Rourke is asking for $ 100, 000. He too was renting
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  Speaker 4: a home and he's being evicted. Mickey Rourke, to remind you,
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  Speaker 4: was a really big actor in the 80s and 90s
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  Speaker 4: and kind of not really the 2000s, but definitely 80s
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  Speaker 4: and 90s. And then, you know, he got some weird
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  Speaker 4: plastic surgery and he always looked like he had like
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  Speaker 4: a mask on his face. But at one time he
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  Speaker 4: was a really good actor and the And he didn't
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  Speaker 4: manage his money right. And he doesn't even own a
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  Speaker 4: home he's renting. And he is back, his rose like $ 54, 000
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  Speaker 4: in rent.
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  Speaker 2: So he had a friend put out a GoFundMe.
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  Speaker 4: And I think they've raised 24,000 of the 100 that
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  Speaker 4: they're asking so that he can pay his rent and
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  Speaker 4: stay there for a while. I think someone would might say,
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  Speaker 4: why don't you pay the back rent? But why don't
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  Speaker 4: we look for a smaller place for you? Like if
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  Speaker 4: we're going to be paying for these Actors, now we're
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be feeling sorry for big Hollywood actors that
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  Speaker 4: didn't manage their money right. I know we've talked about
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  Speaker 4: people that are obsessed with these real life baby dolls.
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  Speaker 4: And it is a whole thing on the internet where
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  Speaker 4: they do these videos just like a real mom would do.
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  Speaker 4: Day in the life of a mother with five kids.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't I don't even know how these people
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  Speaker 4: film these videos because it's like a lot of ASMR,
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  Speaker 4: like the sound of like opening up their bottles and
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  Speaker 4: then shutting a drawer and then packing their lunch and
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  Speaker 4: zipping up their backpack and then snapping them into the
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  Speaker 4: car seat. And then like, you know, sometimes it's really,
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  Speaker 4: really wealthy women that's like waking up, brushing my teeth.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, honey. They wake up each kid.
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  Speaker 4: And like, you're just wondering, like, did they invite someone
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  Speaker 4: to come over? Did they really put the camera like
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  Speaker 4: on all the tripods where they like, just are like
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  Speaker 4: opening up the covers, making up the bed, clapping, putting
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  Speaker 4: a pillow sheet on. It's so weird, but it, you
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  Speaker 4: end up watching it. So there is a woman on there.
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  Speaker 2: Um, and she.
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  Speaker 4: Is making a lot of money on these videos. And
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  Speaker 4: she has multiple doll children and babies.
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  Speaker 2: And I.
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  Speaker 4: Think that she is just one of those people that like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, the last five years was laying in
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  Speaker 4: her bed as a single woman and a woman who
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  Speaker 4: didn't have children watching these other women show their life
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  Speaker 4: of being a busy mom in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, I want that. I want to know
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  Speaker 2: what that feels like.
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  Speaker 4: So she has all these little life, they look very real,
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  Speaker 4: expensive dolls.
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  Speaker 2: And then she makes these videos.
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  Speaker 4: And she kind of does like what I used to
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  Speaker 4: do with the Barbies where I'd like shake their heads
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  Speaker 4: and like use their different voices. So she has voices
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  Speaker 4: for some of the kids because some of the kids
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  Speaker 4: have to go to school. Some of the kids have lunches.
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  Speaker 4: They have allergies that they have school projects do.
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  Speaker 2: But she also has a newborn. She has a toddler.
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  Speaker 2: And she's got like a dorky mom voice like, hey, pumpkin. Hey, sleepyhead,
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  Speaker 2: I've got your brother here. I'm gonna wake you up.
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  Speaker 2: And then she wakes them up. Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's like harmless and she's making money off
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  Speaker 4: of these videos and she can play being a mom
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  Speaker 4: she's not hurting anyone I think people are like why
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  Speaker 4: not adopt a kid and I'm like I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I think it's good she's not adopting a kid actually
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  Speaker 4: she just wants to pretend that she's a busy mom
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  Speaker 4: she just wanted to see that. And I also think
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  Speaker 4: there was a movie years ago, like 20 years ago
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  Speaker 4: called AI about a couple that it's in the future,
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  Speaker 4: which is now today. And they have an AI son
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  Speaker 4: who's just like perpetually like seven years old. And I
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  Speaker 4: can't really remember what the story, where the movie went,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm sure like the kid.
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  Speaker 2: Tried to kill him or something.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think like the future will be just
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  Speaker 4: like you can get it. You know, you can get
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  Speaker 4: AI dogs and puppies that look and act like a
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  Speaker 4: real dog. I think people will be doing that with
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  Speaker 4: children that they can actually talk to and everything. And
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  Speaker 4: they just stay like that age and they can just
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  Speaker 4: act like, I am a busy working mom. I have to,
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  Speaker 4: but then they don't really have to worry about them
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  Speaker 4: like needing a heart transplant or being sick or failing
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  Speaker 4: out of school. but they can cosplay being a mom.
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  Speaker 2: It's bizarre. Welcome to 2026.
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  Speaker 4: Sprinkles Cupcakes came out in 2005 and they've shut down
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  Speaker 4: every store. And this is kind of really interesting because
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  Speaker 4: it was a young woman who really built this exciting
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  Speaker 4: cupcake business from scratch, no pun intended. And then it was,
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  Speaker 4: I believe, I don't know if it was franchised or
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  Speaker 4: she owned them, but she did sell the company to
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  Speaker 4: private equity. And there's a lot of controversy of when
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  Speaker 4: a private equity buys a business that people say it's
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  Speaker 4: not as good, the quality is not as good, it's not,
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  Speaker 4: it changes. But then also they can also just get
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  Speaker 4: rid of the whole thing for whatever reason where if
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  Speaker 4: they feel like it doesn't make sense. So- the owner said,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, like the cupcakes are done. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: people weren't given proper notice if they worked at these stores.
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  Speaker 2: So they're angry.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, if she got whatever billions and billions
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  Speaker 4: of dollars from this company and then the company closes,
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  Speaker 4: even though she was the face of it, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Can you really blame her?
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  Speaker 4: Um, it's interesting because these cupcakes were like, I guess
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  Speaker 4: they were pretty moist, but, um, Super fattening, tons of sugar,
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  Speaker 4: just like the crumbles, which I think is also going away.
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  Speaker 4: And just like anything, I think people realize, just like
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  Speaker 4: Jamba Juice, when people are like, everyone would get Jamba
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  Speaker 4: Juices thinking they were so healthy. And then they're like, actually,
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  Speaker 4: they have a ton of calories in it. Even Jamba
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  Speaker 4: Juices moved to having pressed juices and trying to make
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  Speaker 4: it healthier. We know how much sugar is in this.
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  Speaker 4: I remember we used to break them off and then
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  Speaker 4: make a sandwich out of it because the frosting was
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  Speaker 4: just so heavy. And you could get it out of
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  Speaker 4: a vending machine. And then other like bakery stuff opened
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  Speaker 4: that were like kitschy.
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  Speaker 2: And I was always like, God, like who is eating these?
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  Speaker 2: Because how can you like stay skinny?
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, Sprinkles ran so that, Sprinkles walked so that
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  Speaker 4: Ozumpic could run. Because now they're like this heavy sugar,
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  Speaker 4: these super sugary treats.
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  Speaker 2: Are gone. It's about ozempic. It's about, you know, getting
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  Speaker 2: healthy and thin.
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  Speaker 4: And when you do eat, you want it to be
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  Speaker 4: like high protein food and not like the sugary shit.
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  Speaker 4: I also saw a whole thing of each generation and
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  Speaker 4: how much alcohol they buy. And it's like, Boomers, then
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  Speaker 4: higher up is Gen X. Right above Gen X is
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  Speaker 4: millennials by, you know, the most amount of alcohol per generation.
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  Speaker 2: Like billions and billions. And then Gen Z is like
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  Speaker 2: way down here.
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  Speaker 4: We've talked about how the nightlife, they don't go to
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  Speaker 4: the nightlife or anything because they don't know how to
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  Speaker 4: go and dance and look at their phone at the
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  Speaker 4: same time. So like they don't really drink, which is
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  Speaker 4: not a bad thing, okay?
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  Speaker 2: But for the industry, it's weird.
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  Speaker 4: And I also wonder like, you know, with everyone is
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  Speaker 4: splitting food and everything because they don't eat as much,
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  Speaker 4: like what happens to the big portions that were so
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  Speaker 4: popular like years ago with Cheesecake Factory are now portions
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  Speaker 4: getting it back to like a normal size, but they're
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  Speaker 4: going to keep the price because they've got to make
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  Speaker 4: their profits somehow. I've noticed that when I've gone to
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  Speaker 4: like a chichi bar, what has happened to the glassware?
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  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I don't even want to bother
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  Speaker 4: drinking anymore. I'll say, oh, I'll have a Cosmo, like
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  Speaker 4: a little martini. Literally, the martini glass is this big.
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  Speaker 4: It is this big. It looks like a doll's cup.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like one of those fake baby dolls is
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  Speaker 4: drinking a martini. It is literally three sips, and they
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  Speaker 4: shake it up, and they make it taste good, but
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  Speaker 4: it's like $ 27, and you're like, what's the point? I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to have to spend $ 200 to get a buzz.
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  Speaker 2: Is it even worth it? Maybe it's not. You're like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Just give me some sparkling water and
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  Speaker 2: a lime. Fuck it.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, so there you go for that. You guys, one
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: of our dreams have come true. You know there's going
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: to be several. And by dreams and several, I mean
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  Speaker 4: the Karen Reid Lifetime movie is coming.
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  Speaker 2: It is here.
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  Speaker 4: It's called Accused, the Karen Reid story. It's Saturday, January 10th,
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  Speaker 4: you guys. This is appointment television for Juicy Scoopers. And
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  Speaker 4: we need to watch it. And it was none of
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  Speaker 4: the actresses that I had predicted because I don't recognize her.
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  Speaker 2: But she.
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  Speaker 4: Has kind of the hooded eyes, which I think is
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  Speaker 4: very attractive. A lot of people get those hooded eyes
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  Speaker 4: taken care of, like Mandy Moore. And then people are like,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: who invaded Mandy Moore?
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  Speaker 2: Who is this woman? She looks older.
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  Speaker 4: She looks different. But it's a very distinct, like, sexy eye.
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  Speaker 4: Renee Zellweger did it, too, and she looked totally different.
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  Speaker 4: You should not do that operation on your face unless
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  Speaker 4: you never really had them before and now you're much older. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 4: if you do it too young, it just changes your look.
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  Speaker 4: And like, it's a sexy look. It's a sexy look. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm excited to see the movie just because we've
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  Speaker 4: covered it so much. I know that there's several other
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  Speaker 4: movies in the works, which always happens. And they all
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  Speaker 4: come out at the same time. Like I said, there
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  Speaker 4: were three movies that did the Long Island Lolita at
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  Speaker 4: the same time when we did Made for TV movies.
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  Speaker 4: So this, they ran, they got this done first. And
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  Speaker 4: then I'm sure there's going to be like... you know,
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  Speaker 4: a higher end, like Netflix limited series is probably coming out.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm assuming is the one that will be
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  Speaker 4: like a bigger, bigger stars and stuff. I think, I
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  Speaker 4: think we already know that someone else is doing her
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  Speaker 4: and I can't think of her name.
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  Speaker 2: And you're screaming in your.
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  Speaker 4: Car saying, Heather, it's so-and-so. Anyway, this is January 10th
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  Speaker 4: and I will be watching it. I have talked about
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  Speaker 4: how there are a lot of fake Bravo-type accounts that
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  Speaker 4: have come in my feed, and sometimes I've made the
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  Speaker 4: mistake of following them. And they are full-blown fake stories.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, beyond fake stories. And Brianna, Vicki Gunvalson's daughter,
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  Speaker 4: you'll remember her from Real Housewives of the Sea. She
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  Speaker 4: was the level-headed nurse. She married her Marine husband. They
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  Speaker 4: left the state and moved away, and I'm not put
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  Speaker 4: on TV since he had told another housewife's older mother
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: to get her feet off the couch or the coffee table.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: And it was a very disturbing scene. And he was like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: this is my couch. And everyone was like, what?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Anyway, they went away.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: They have four kids. They got all healthy. And people
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: really like following them. And they're still together and whatever.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: An article came out that said that he was arrested
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: for domestic violence.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: It is all completely not true.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: And Brianna had to go on her Instagram to show
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: that this photo of him, that they took him and
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: they photoshopped his head on someone in an orange jumpsuit that,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: and she zoomed in and said, like he, this person
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: that they put his face on has a little small
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: earring and like, She jokingly said, you know, like you
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: would say a lot of things about us and our
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: marriage and our couple, whatever, but my husband doesn't have
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: a tiny little hoop earring and never would. So it
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: was kind of funny, but I don't like it when
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: people say, oh, you know, this person got fired or
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: that housewives. I'm like, where did you see that? I saw,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I saw an article. I saw a news article about it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It's not true.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: They can just write whatever they want. It's just like
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: an Instagram account that makes it look like it's a
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: news article. And I do really feel badly about, that
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: they had to, that she had to deal with this,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: where she was like getting texts from friends, like, I'm
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: so sorry.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Are you okay? And it all isn't true.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: And so a lot, and I've made the mistake of
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: where I've, you know, I get so much information sent
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: to me and I do these shows and it's just
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: pop culture and whatever.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And I've made the mistake.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Where it's like literally an Onion article, which is one thing,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: which is kind of funny, but I now have to
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: be like, now wait a minute. Like, you know, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I don't like to repost those things in my groups
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: or anything until I've researched it because there are these fake,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: like Housewife Bravo type of accounts that look like they're legit.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Anyway, that story is not true. And I thought that
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: was interesting. J-Lo has her residency.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: She did a New Year's Eve show in Las Vegas
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: and Perez Hilton went to go see it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: And he said, it's fabulous. And he thought it was
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a great show.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: And of course, just like when Adele was doing her residency,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: you see so much video of it, Madonna, Taylor, that
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, gosh, I wish they would like honestly take,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I mean. I know Dave Chappelle does this and I
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: know Stan oftentimes want the phones to be taken away,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: but it's too bad that they can't insist that these
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: phones be taken away. Maybe they think it helps sell tickets,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: but I feel like I want it to be like
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: a surprise.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: And so she looks great.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: And this one video that someone filmed went viral about
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: her saying, I've been singing this song since I was
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: a little girl. I've been singing it since I was,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: it was, Then I sang it again in 1999. And,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: you know, and she talks about how looking for love.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: And then she even said, Oh my God, this is
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: like church. Cause like her band is like, like playing
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: in the back and she's talking and she's like, I'm preaching.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And like, you need to find love. You need to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: be respected.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: And if we're going to have like for men and
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: women alike, like find that person that loves you. And
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Oh my God, get to the song. Like
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: it was a lot of talking just like Adele. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: then she sings, um, Elvis is.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Since my baby left me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: So she's kind of doing a Luann thing where she's
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: like doing other people's songs. Anyway, I think she's super
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: entertaining and gorgeous to look at. I love all of
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: her pop songs. I would like to go to her
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: residency in Vegas. And I think, you know, of course
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: she also like saw, Oh, the haters don't want me
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: to wear this outfit. We'll look at this ass and
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: like shakes it. And again, I'm like, you're JLo. Don't
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: even acknowledge the haters. Just do your singing and dancing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Give people a great show. And your shitty year of 24, 25,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: it's all behind us. It's 26. Shake your ass and
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: sing Elvis. Oprah is on the cover of People. The
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: truth about my weight loss. We know she used GLPs.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: She looks amazing. But the comments were so funny when
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't even realize it. The comments were like, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: have been hearing about this woman's weight loss and her
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: weight since I was like 10 years old.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my God, you're right. It's been
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: going on ever since she was.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: From the moment she entered our living rooms on TV,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: it was that she.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Was a larger woman that she lost weight, that she
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: brought the weight, um, all 67 pounds of fat. She
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: pulled out in this, um, red wagon and she brought
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: the doctor out. And that was some drug that didn't
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: have the longevity that a GLP one had. And she
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: gained it back. Then she lost another way. Then she
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: gained it back. And then Kirstie Alley too, like they
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: used to be constant. Now I enjoy eating cake and
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I don't give a shit.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm just going to wear a And, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Sells magazines and it gets people talking because everybody, very
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: few people are like 100% like I love every inch
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: of my body. There isn't one thing I'd change. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: don't know anybody that is truly like that. Even fitness
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: people that have a perfect body are probably like, oh,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I don't like my pinky or I wish my ankle was,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: you know, bigger or smaller or like my second toe
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: is longer than my first. Like everybody has something. So
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: that's why it's a big deal. Nick Cannon, as you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: has several, several baby mamas. Mariah Carey being.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: One of them.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: These twins that are very cute, by the way. And
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: he was in Aspen with those twins. And Brie from
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Selling Sunset and their cute son, they did a whole
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: photo shoot together. But also several of his other baby
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: mamas did very fancy photos. like Christmas card type photo
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: shoots with him with like gowns looking in different places.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: And he went, he did every single one. He did
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: every single one.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And I'll never forget when I was at a dinner
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: with Kim Kardashian. Yes, I'm name dropping.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: And she was dating him and he had propositioned her
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: to be the mother of his children. And he's like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I'm like, are you getting married? No, he just wants
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: to be the mother. He wants me to be the
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: mother of his children. He said he'd buy me a
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: house at Hinton Hills. And that was before the Kardashians
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: had their TV show.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And I was like, please don't do that. Like you
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: are bound for greatness.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is at the time she
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: was going to be on the style network to like
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: styling stars, uh, closets before they got their own TV show.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: But so this was his.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Goal all along was to have several different baby mamas
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: all around that like are okay with it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: It's very, it's like a sister-wife situation. And by the way,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Cody and Christine are related somehow. And I heard it
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: was through marriage and then I heard, no, it really
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: goes back to like their aunts or grandmothers or something.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I can't keep track.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
• 25:16
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• 25:20
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• 25:23
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• 25:32
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• 25:35
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• 25:38
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• 25:42
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• 25:45
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• 25:48
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• 25:51
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• 25:51
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• 25:54
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• 26:03
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• 26:04
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• 26:06
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• 26:11
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• 26:14
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• 26:15
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• 26:16
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• 26:18
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• 26:21
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• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Up and Adam. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I
• 27:01
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• 27:05
  Speaker 2: It's Adam. Up and Adam. And I'm very.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Excited to talk to you because you are the star
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: of the documentary.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: What is it called? The Cult of Mary Cosby. The
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Cult of a Housewife.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: And I really, I mean, it was great. You had
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: told me about it before. You said, as we were
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: talking about our Bravo Con, you're freaking out. Because the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: trailer is dropping. And I think you had told me
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: that you were working on something. So I want to
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: get a little bit the inside scoop from you. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: know that obviously you do great, you know, coverage of
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: housewives and pop culture. But you had done an interview
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: with Mary's mother prior to her passing. Can you tell
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: a little bit about how you contacted them and how
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: that interview went?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Because it was also featured on the doc.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Well, first, thank you. Um, love you guys.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: And second, it was weird. I was doing an interview
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: with Dan Cosby years ago. Like I move all the time, Heather.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: And I think it was like five moves ago and
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: Dan Cosby, I did an interview with him.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: He reached out to me.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: And let's just tell people who is Dan, Dan Cosby's
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: in it, but he, he is her first cousin. Like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: how are they really, how's Dan Cosby related to Mary Cosby?
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Honestly, at this point, I believe it's a cousin, but
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: it's been so long.
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: And when he reached out, I was like, yeah, definitely.
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: I want to do this.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: And I was on my way to Margaritaville.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: So I was like, yeah, I'll do this before we
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: go do Jimmy Buffett, whatever.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, like the concert. You're just going to go to
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a Margaret.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: Wait, like Margaritaville, like little resorts in Orlando.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: And so I was like, two pina coladas, you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: And so then after that, after we did this whole conversation,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: he reached out and he was like, do you want
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: to talk to Rosalyn?
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, I don't know who that is. And
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: he said, Mary's mom. And I was like, yeah. He said,
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: Mary's mom knows who you are. I talked to her.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: And so I was thinking in my head, that's a
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: little odd, but sure. Like if she's willing to meet me,
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: So we ended up setting it up. He gave me
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: her phone number and also Mark Cazares, who was Mary
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Cosby stepfather.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: I ended up reaching out. It was so uncomfortable. Very,
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: very awkward.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: So we agree for me to fly out to Salt
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: Lake City. I fly out to Salt Lake City. Jason said,
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: I can't make this trip. Jason's your husband.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Jason's my husband.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: Um, just like you with your husband, you know how
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: you guys do everything together. Normally my husband is with me.
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: And so I go out to Salt Lake city and
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: Jason's like, I can't make this trip. You know, we
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: have nobody to watch the animals. We have five animals.
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: We're a zoo.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: And I was like, okay, I can do this. So
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: we ended up sending me out to Salt Lake city.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: I go out to meet Mark Cazares and Rozzy. And
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: when I did, I get inside the house. There is
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: nothing in the house, literally not no furniture. There's nothing
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: in the refrigerator, nothing. And I walked outside and I said,
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: can I just have like one second?
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: I'm just going to call and find out where the
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: videographer is.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: And I had to get like a third party videographer
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: and he was like, yeah, yeah, that's fine. So I
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: step outside and I call Jason and I was like,
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: something's wrong. Like something is not right here. And he
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: was like, what do you mean? And I said, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: just feel like something is like really off. And he's like, Adam,
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: you're always about intuition. But like, we already paid for
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: like the hotel and the flights, like just go in
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: there and do what you have to do.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Because I kind of at that point, you wanted your
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: husband to be like, yeah, get the fuck out of there.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Did you kind of want someone else to just tell
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: you to like to leave?
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: I wanted somebody to like validate.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: If you have it, you know, like an intuitive feeling,
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: then leave. So I asked him, I said, may I
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: use the restroom? And he's like, you're not allowed to
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: go downstairs.
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: I said, okay.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: I said, so is there another restroom? He said, you
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: can use the restroom in my room.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: And I said, okay. He said, Rozzy's in her room.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: So they slept in different rooms. I went into his room.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: There was like a blown up air mattress and just
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: like a blanket on top of it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: And when I went into the bathroom, I moved the
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: shower curtain. There was nothing. No soap, no shower, like shampoo,
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: no shower conditioner, no nothing. There was no toothbrush, nothing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: And I was like, okay, that's weird.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Did they say this was their home?
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: They said it was their home.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so weird. Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: There was only one big massive photo of mama. And
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: then do you know how like when you go to
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: a picnic or- kind of like a barbecue and they
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: have those like white plastic chairs that people kick the
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: bottoms out.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: Of when they prank each other. It was like two
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: of those.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: And I was like, well, that's weird. And he said,
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: Rozzy should be out soon. I'm like, okay. Later I
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: found out they were hiding things in the basement, apparently.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: And I didn't know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: So apparently they were hiding things related to their church
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: that they branched off of when they left the faith
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: temple Pentecostal church. And I'm not exactly what was, I'm
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: not sure what was being hidden, but what kind of
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: like blows my mind was whatever they were hiding, they
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: didn't want me to find it out. And then they
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: were being investigated.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: So it was, it was just, they were being investigated
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: by whom? By like the feds.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: And so then he went on the run. The stepfather
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: right after.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: What year is all this approximately? Like, do you remember?
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: Um, it was probably about a year and a half ago.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, I felt like it was longer than that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: No.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Okay. That you did this interview that you did this interview.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, Oh, Oh.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: For the interview is probably about two, two and a
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: half years.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: But a year and a half ago he went on
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: the run.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And when did she pass?
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: That I did the documentary.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And when did she die?
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: I think she died about a year and a half
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: to two years ago.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: So she died and then he went on the run.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: He went on the run.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: And do you know what she died from?
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: I think that they tried to say that it was
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: natural causes. Like she just died from old age.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But she wasn't old though. She wasn't that old.
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: Well, if you saw her in the interview, there were
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: so many moments that Jason and I, my husband, um,
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: we had to edit out, especially when we brought up
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: like the Jen Shaw of it all, all kinds of things,
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: because there were many moments where she was just, we
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: could not put them on there.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: It was aggressively. I don't even know what words to use.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: What was her, what was her feelings towards it? I mean,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: in the documentary with, um, when they show that video
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: of where she freaks out.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So mama has died.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Now it's, she knows that her daughter is supposed to
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: marry him. And she says like, this is not the
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: way the church should be and everything.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And she kind of has, she's like escorted out. They
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: like call the police.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: And Mary kind of refers to that, I think, in
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: the show where she's like, I'm estranged from my mom
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: because she like threw a fit at the church and
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: was escorted out by police.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: And so we see that in the documentary.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: And it does seem a lot from the mom's perspective that, oh, yes,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I miss my daughter, but a lot of jealousy in
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: that she was left with nothing, no inheritance. And her
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: daughter basically, even though it was through marriage and a
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: creepy thing, her daughter got all the businesses and the
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: church and the mother was just skipped over and probably had,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: you know, struggled. So it does seem a little bit
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: when you're watching it, that it does seem like a
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: lot of people are, you know, jealous and angry about money.
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: I actually, I think for her the whole time, I
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: think that there, before she passed away, I think that
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: there were, um, elements that showed maybe Alzheimer's or dementia,
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: like something, and I hate to say this about anyone,
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: especially somebody who's not here anymore. Something was not right.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: And she just kept on saying, she was like, Oh Adam,
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: I love you. And she's like, how is my Mary?
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: Is my Mary good?
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: You think she's going to see this? She's going to
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: see it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: She's like, Oh, I love Mary. And I just, I'm
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: going to watch her tonight. And I'm like, you're not
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: watching shit. Like nothing's coming on tonight. And she's like,
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: So she just kept on repeating things that did not
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: make sense.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sound like.
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, and she would lean into things that also were,
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: it was just, it was so abrupt the way that
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: she said it. But I don't, I think that it
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: was a mixture of, yes, do I think that the
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: family members were jealous in some capacity that Mary Cosby
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: was inheriting everything that they probably thought that they were?
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: Because like, even in my own interview with them, They
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: tried to sue Mary Cosby and Robert Cosby Sr. for
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: their part of what they thought the inheritance was. So
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: they were definitely fighting for something. But then the other
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: part of me thinks that it's a mother who felt
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: like her stepfather, who is Robert Cosby Sr.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: used the.
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: Congregation and the ideology of God, you know, whether you
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: believe or you don't. coming down and saying, you were
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: supposed to marry my daughter. I think that affected her too.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: So I think that it was a multitude of different things. It's,
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: it's very, it's very odd.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I, um, in watching it, you know, it, it is,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I'd forgotten that she actually didn't go to the second
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: reunion and, Because that's when all this stuff originally came
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: out with her berating her congregation about not giving her
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: enough money and all of that.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And then I forgot that she wasn't part of it,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: of season three.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: So when she actually decided to step away, a lot
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: of people thought it was because Robert Cosby Sr. had
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: a big voice in and the fact that people were
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: questioning what was going on behind the scenes with the congregation,
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: with the church. And I do, I truly do think
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: that was a part of it. You know, I spoke
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: to you about this a little bit. I ended up
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: going to the church when I went to go interview
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: Mary Cosby's mother and her stepfather.
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: And when I went to the church, I rode on
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: a bird.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: If people don't know what that is, it's like those
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: little scooters that you just like, you know, like do
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: your Apple pay, whatever. And so I show up and
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: it's snowing. And I set up my phone against the
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: tree outside of it. And I was going to take
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: like a photo. And this woman comes out and she goes,
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: what are you doing? And I was like, oh, I'm
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: just a big fan of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: And she was like, oh, okay.
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: All right. Well, she's like, so you're a fan of Mary.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: And I was like, yeah, I'm a fan of Mary.
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: Awkward. And she was like, Mary will rise again. And
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: I was like, why is the place boarded up? And
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: she said, well, the place is boarded up because the
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: foundation needs to be retrofitted. And so we're going to
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: have mama Mary come back at some point. But then
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: if you watch the show, the place was not boarded
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: up because the foundation needed to be retrofitted or whatever.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: This woman basically said, Mama Mary is coming back like
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, but so is Mary Cosby coming back like
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, because she said she'll rise again.
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: She was calling Mary Cosby Mama Mary.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: So it was so confusing. And then, so I was like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: just like baffled. And then I was like, okay. And
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: then you watch the show and they're doing all of
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: these renovations. But then if you compare the renovations to
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: when you first saw when Jen Shaw went on mother's day,
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: it doesn't look like anything changed. Like I don't understand
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: what the renovations were.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised that she even bothered to ever go back
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: to the church and preach. I mean, if I was her,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I would have just come back, let the church, let
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: the church fold and, you know, make people forget.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: That I ever was ever a leader.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: And, you know, had she not talked about it all,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: had we not seen her do that one day of
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: church where they all come and everyone's cheering her on and, oh,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: isn't this great? And even Andy Cohen goes, oh, it
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: was my favorite episode ever, is seeing Mary preach. I'm like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: regardless of the doc that hasn't come out yet, does
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: everyone forget that all this, everything, anybody that followed it
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: saw and knew about all this stuff three years ago,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: you know?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: And then when she came back, it's like, yeah, the
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Bravo audience has a memory of a pee. Like they,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: nobody cares, nobody remembers. And that's fine. You know, that's
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: fine if you're just entertained by her weirdness. Because I
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: mentioned now her Instagram profile, it starts out with event planner,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: then Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, spiritual entrepreneur.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Or something like.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: It it's not even, there's nothing about her church. Like,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I think maybe it says preacher at the end, but
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: it's like, she's oh, fragrance. So I joke that she's
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: probably going to do like a holy water perfume, uh,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: like a grand Dom perfume, whatever.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: So she's fashion. It's like, she's getting into all these
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: other things, which she should.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: And either she'll just never really address this doc, which
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: she did one video of like life.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Stop bothering me like a video.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Um, The only thing that she can do at this
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: point is what every woman can do to get out
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: of a bad situation is divorce the husband and blame
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: it on the husband. Whether you're Blake Lively and Ryan,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: whether you're anybody that's done something bad, you could always say,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I got sucked into this world. I had to marry
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: my step-grandfather. I had his child. I wasn't going to leave,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: but we kind of led separate lives. I got on
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: the housewives. And I still love the church and love
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: the people I met, but it's not where I'm at anymore.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And now we're getting divorced. That's what I think is
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: going to happen. That's my prediction.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: Here's the thing too, though.
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: You can't say that you love the people of the
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: church when there's audio that comes out with you talking
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: to the people of like, you're lazy and you will
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: never see God and you will never be. But then
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: she goes on the show and she talks about how
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: disgusted she is laying under her step-grandfather's like him being
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: this like bigger, she's like, Oh God, get him away
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: from me.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: So what you're obsessed with and what you love is
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: definitely the lifestyle. And I'm not sure as somebody who
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: has a prenup with my husband, cause I do.
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: Um, I don't know if that's public.
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: I've I do wonder if they have a prenup and
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: if she acts like if she acts on a divorce
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: and she actually walks away from it, does she lose
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: what is in that prenup? If she publicly talks about it?
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure because I look at Bronwyn Newport and
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: like you married the Crypt Keeper as well.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: You married this guy, Todd, whoever from Microsoft or Blackberry
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: or Blueberry or whatever the, I don't even know. And,
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: You came on because you wanted to find your own
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: identity and you wanted to find a career and something
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: that worked for you that would separate you from him.
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: And you did it and we see it. And it's
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: very obvious what you did, but girl, you had a plan.
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: You executed.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: I'm not even mad at you.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: But when I look at housewives, yeah, same thing. Housewives
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: really is a way for.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Transactional gold digging marriages to give women an out without
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: having to like go work at Nordstrom.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't want to be a realtor. I don't
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: want to work in retail.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: Unless you're Gretchen Rossi and then you don't meet it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Because you never got married. You mean?
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: But no, it's, it's, it is interesting. And it's like with,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: with her, I mean, she, yeah. And also in the video,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: in the documentary, um, When the guy's like, yeah, I'm
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: the one that brought her Cameron, who died. I'm the
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: one that met someone and said they're looking for someone
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: for Real Housewives.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: And she was all about it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Which, yeah, I think that when you are someone, from
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: what they said from her high school life, she liked
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: the money. She liked being on stage. That's the other thing.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: About the housewives.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: They're all women that had fantasies about being real. a
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: TV star or whatever it is, famous person, a movie star,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: but none of them, very.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Few did the work.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Some like a Nene leaks was kind of auditioning and
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: things like that. And of course the, um, Beverly Hills
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: girls actually had careers, but like a lot of them,
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: you know, they don't really pursue it. They get married and,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: And they get the joy of just shopping and being rich.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: And now here's this thing just thrown in their lap.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: And it's like everything that they dreamt about that they
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: didn't really work very hard for. And so I don't
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: think she was ever thinking, oh, my shady church practices
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: will be exposed. I think she was just like, great.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I just get to be a star. This will be
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: so fun.
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: I think two things.
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: I think one, um, Andy Cohen said it the best
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: on watch what happens live when he said every reality
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: TV person, like you guys all have an element of
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: narcissism where you are fighting for camera attention, right?
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: You want to be on camera.
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: But then also I think that Dorinda Medley said it
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: right too, where she was like, if you're going to
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: put yourself on camera and put your family and put
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: yourself like in the forefront of all of this scrutiny
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: from all of these fans, millions of viewers streaming, not
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: streaming live viewers, whatever, then.
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: You better make sure you have no skeletons.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: I think that both of those things that you have,
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: you kind of have to like weigh them like a scale.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: And I don't think that Mary Cosby did that. I
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: think that Mary Cosby was very conditioned through her church
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: to be very God-like where people were like, you are amazing.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: You are beautiful.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: You are everything. You want a hundred thousand dollars. I
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: will pull out a second mortgage.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: You are please.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: And speaking in tongues and all kinds of shit where
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: you're doing heave tithings. You are putting people in front
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: of the church doors at the end of, you know,
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: like the Whatever.
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: I don't even know what service. Thank you.
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: I don't, I never went to church. My dad always said, son,
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: we do church of the Holy huddle on Sundays. When
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: we watched the dolphins game, that was like our church.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: We never went to church church. And so you would
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: put people at the doors and they would make sure
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: that nobody walked out until you did these heave tithings
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: where you would have to pay. And if you didn't
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: pay like $ 1, 500 or 2,500 or 50,000 or a hundred thousand, uh,
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: then she would scream at you, which we heard in
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: the audio where she would be like, you are poor.
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: You will never see the same God that I see.
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: You will never see.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: And it's like, what are we listening to?
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: So in.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: This thing, I mean, what I always wonder with this,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: because being raised Catholic, nuns take a vow of poverty,
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: priests take a vow of poverty.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: You know, they, maybe the dealer in town gives them.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: All little cars to, to drive, but like they don't
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: have any. I've always been fascinated by people that give
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: money to the pastor when you see that they're wearing,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: you know, $ 2, 000 shoes when they could very easily be
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: wearing a hundred dollar pair of shoes. Like how does someone,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: did any of the people in it like just go, yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: we saw her drenched in gucci and diamonds and everything
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: as she stood up there but um i still wanted
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: to give my money from being a bus driver to
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: her like i just don't get how that happened same
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: thing with giselle's husband who's a pastor like.
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah um.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: And she was a first lady and now she's she's
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: not really religious or anything giselle like it's just so
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: weird to me.
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: You know what I want to say about the Mary
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: Cosby thing is that I think people recognize that she
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: was wearing designer gowns. and, you know, like she kept
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: everybody outside of her home. People did not come to
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: her mansion or the Orlando home or the Vegas home.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Except the worker, except the 81 year old maid.
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: Except for the maid.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: That died. And she was, and the things that she
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: would say to her.
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: Oh, she treated her like complete garbage.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Like a slave.
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: Like a slave.
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: But then I think it was when the congregation actually
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: watched The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And then
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: you see Mary Cosby and she's like doing a house tour.
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: And she's like, guys, welcome to one of my many
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: rooms inside of our mansion. This elaborate mansion where we
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: have three, four rooms. And these are my Hermes, Birkins,
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: and that is my Chanel. Don't touch that, bitch. These
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: are my Gucci. And it's like, so I think that
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: even in the documentary, like members of the congregation, they
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: touched on the fact that like, they did not know that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: She had all of this stuff because the.
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: Whole time when they were doing the heave tithings and
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: like these, you know, asking of the congregation for more money,
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: they were saying it was for the church for things
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: for the church. They were not seeing things that were
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: happening to the church, but then Mary Cosby would disappear
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: and they would say, well, Mary has to go through
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: some things and she would go to New York city.
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: Allegedly.
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: This is what they were saying. And they had a
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: penthouse in New York city and she was getting her
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: skin lightened and she was getting plastic surgery done to
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: her face. This is what they were claiming and things
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: done with the money that was coming through the tithings.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: It wasn't, it wasn't also the other homes and stuff
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: through the businesses that mama started. Like I thought that
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: was pretty impressive when they talked kind of about mama's life.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this girl was like a pretty great business woman.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Like she started hair salons and restaurants and mortgage companies.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: So could, couldn't she argue that? Because in that one reunion,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Mary goes, you've seen my church. It's 300 people.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I couldn't live like this off of 300 people. Yeah.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: So some of them did some of them actually ever
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: give their house to her.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: So what they would do is they would pull out
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: second mortgages. And some of them allegedly did, I guess.
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: They took out like $ 100, 000, $ 200, 000, $ 300, 000 on their homes.
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: But they would do it through the mortgage company that
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: Mama left.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: Behind to Robert Cosby Sr.
• 51:53
  Speaker 8: And so anything that he inherited through marriage, Mary Cosby
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: also inherited. And so, yeah, there were multiple businesses, but
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: she did.
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: She did.
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: She expanded very quickly through the church, through money that
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: was coming in. But the funny thing is, is that
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: the congregation had nothing bad to say about Rosemary Mama Cosby.
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: They always felt like she was good hearted. She was
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: trying to help them. She wanted to open a mortgage
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: company to help members of the congregation also get their home.
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: She wanted to open hair salons so they wouldn't have
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: to pay as much. She always did everything business wise well.
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: in a positive way to help people.
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: That was, that was the.
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: Ideology behind it. But then the minute that unfortunately she
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: passed away, Robert Cosby senior, he came in and he
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: took over these businesses and he started to use them.
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: For bad.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: You know what I wonder is, was there anything in
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: writing or said where mama actually said, I want you
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: to marry one of my girls, quote unquote, like, no.
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: No, There wasn't. I learned that in my interview.
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: And also, too, there was a will that this is
• 53:08
  Speaker 8: according to Mary's mom that she told me that I
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: had to cut out because of the names that she
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: called Jen Shaw in the interview. So I had to
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: cut this clip out because it didn't make sense if
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: I would have left it in. It wasn't very cohesive.
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: It didn't make sense.
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: But when she went on this whole tangent, she explained
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: that there was a will.
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: From what she was saying. And the will.
• 53:36
  Speaker 8: Shared that she wanted all of her kids to have
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: her businesses and she wanted X amount to go to
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: her husband. But the will was, it was, you know,
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: drafted up, but never actually signed. And so since it
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: wasn't signed, it was Rosalind and her sisters versus Robert
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: Cosby and Mary Cosby for years. Like they fought in court.
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: So there's a ton of court documents that people can
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: look up now. And it was just a whole fight
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: where they were trying to fight for the businesses for
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: some of the money and they lost completely. Like everybody
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: lost except for Robert Cosby senior, because essentially he was
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: the husband of mama.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: And he was married to Mary and Mary didn't really
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: have a dog in the fight except for the fact
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: that she married Robert Cosby Sr. But all of the kids,
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: the heirs, they felt, well, our mom left us businesses
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: and money and it was in a will.
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: She never signed it.
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: She had it drafted up, did not sign it when
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: she submitted it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Also the fact that Mary was already married to someone else.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: And then they just forced him, according to the doc,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: to get divorced so that that would make her free
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: to marry him. There must have been some type of
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: romance because she did have his child. So at one time, whatever.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: But I wasn't surprised to hear the Cameron's testimony where
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: he said, I was seeing her romantically or whatever.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't know this. I don't think
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: she was in love with Robert.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: And then there was that one part where he was
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: behind her, like on a screen in the reunion. And
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: she's like, don't be like that. And don't embarrass me. Like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: I think she's like, I don't want this guy around
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: doing the show anymore either. But I mean, I was like,
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: when she went back to do the church, she was like, oh,
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: you know, I feel like I'm back.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Like it's been so long I'm back.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, a real preacher would, if
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: their church was burned down and they were doing other things,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: they would go and preach other places. They wouldn't go
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: three years without preaching.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: It's just so weird. It's so weird.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: And then they all go and like, like, have you
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: heard from any of the other housewives that listen, they're
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: part of a show and it's very, you know, you
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: fight with people, but you don't want to have full
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: enemies because you never want to be in a position
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: where you're on an Island by yourself and they have
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: a reason to cut you. So I'm imagining it's probably
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: very weird that all this is coming out again, because
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: I think the other cast members have felt, okay, it's
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: over with.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: She's scary.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: She's mean, but she's being nice now. And the show
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: is on the top rated shows. Let's play along with Mary.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure they're like calling each other going now.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: What have you heard from any of them?
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: So I'm going to, again, add two things here.
• 56:33
  Speaker 8: One, I've talked to a few of the housewives and they,
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: it kind of seems like they're all terrified and they're like,
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: we don't want to mess with people's faith because then
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: at the point where people think that maybe they believed
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: in something and they've really invested into something and they
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: find out that that might be a farce, that they
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: might do something that's harmful either to themselves or to
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: other people. So I think that they don't want to
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: invest into that. But then too, have you met Mary
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: or no?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I have never met her. I thought she had blocked me,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: but I guess she didn't.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: But no, I, I, she, we were at that, that
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Kathy Elgin party together when she brought Angie. But I
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: had not spoken to her at that event. I kind
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: of just acted like I didn't see her cause I
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: was sort of scared. And I think I'd already talked
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: about her weird church.
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: That's when I met her.
• 57:25
  Speaker 8: So it was right after that was right after my
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: interview came out with her mother and her stepfather.
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: And, And she was like, um, Adam. And it was
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: like the same teeth that I have.
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: Like, I feel like we went to the same doctor
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: and it was like, Adam, like big white smile. And
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: I was like, no, like you must have the wrong person.
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: And she, she came over and she hugged me and she's.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: Like, I just love you. My sweet Adam. I love you.
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: And you're amazing. How are you, Adam? Are you doing good?
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: I just love you, Adam. You don't ever stop what
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: you're doing.
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, you just messaged me on TikTok like
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: a week and a half ago, telling me to like
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: literally go kick rocks and destroy myself.
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: What are you talking about?
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: So what I'm kind of seeing is that there's a
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: little bit of charisma, like this charismatic personality that is
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: inside that she weaponizes and or uses to her advantage
• 58:30
  Speaker 8: to kind of sway you to benefit herself being like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: Oh my God, I love you.
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: You're on my side.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: But then when they talked about in the documentary, like
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: the rage texting, and then they, they went over to
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: Whitney Rose going through like all of the, you know,
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: rage texts. I can see that too, because I didn't
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: get rage texts. I got rage DMS on Tik TOK.
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: And then, you know, like you go into person and
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: it's like, how are you, Adam?
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: You're doing good.
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: And then in like the TikTok DMs, it was like,
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: and I was like, I don't want to see her.
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: So I did the same thing at the Kathy Hilton party.
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: I looked at her and I was like, beeline it
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: this way.
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: And then she came and she like pulled me and
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: I was like, oh no, I'm done. I'm going to
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: be hit by the Lord. And it's going down.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: I also thought an interesting part was a very memorable
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: scene by Mary. That shows her weird quirkiness. So, of course,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: all these moments are gold for the producers. And it's
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: when she shows up at Whitney's house and she was like,
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: a parishioner in my church.
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: Died.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: She flew out of the, what did she say? The
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: skyroof or something? What do you call it? Sunroof?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Sunroof. She flew out of the sunroof. Into a neighborhood.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: And the girl was like, is she okay? Did she die?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: So, wear your seatbelt.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Now, all I want to say is, in her defense,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: because we haven't defended her at all, you are being filmed.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: That could have been edited. Wear your seatbelt. Could have
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: come 10 minutes after.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: We don't know. We don't know.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: If there was a moment where Mary was like.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I just, you know, I feel so terrible. She was
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: a wonder. She was a young mom. She had two kids.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: You know, the way they edit it, it's like, so then.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Sadly, this young girl who did have two children was
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: part of the church, her father and her aunt and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: uncle and everybody was just horrified to watch that scene
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: because it, it made it sound like she was mocking
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: it or making fun of it, but she is weird
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: and awkward. And I just, sometimes I just do, I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: do feel badly for people on reality shows because if
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: you're supposed to just live your life and you're just
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: walking around and talking and you can't.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Edit yourself, they, they can edit.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: But then when I heard that she never reached out
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: as the church, just to send flowers to, do whatever
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: it could be, say just something nice, you know, um,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: maybe do a collection for her or, you know, not
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: charged for a funeral, whatever.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: She didn't do anything.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: She never contacted any of those people and they were
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: all current active members of her church.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: So that's what I was like, that's all I need
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: to know.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: But I just at place, you know, things are edited
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: to look quirky and weird too.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 8: Well, yeah. And I think that what you're saying is,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, obviously, it's absolutely correct. And you know this
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: better than I do. You're friends with, like, everyone. And
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: when it comes to her having these conversations about this,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: I think it says a lot when the members of
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: the congregation who were pulled in to do the documentary
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: are claiming that people from the congregation were trying to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: do GoFundMes for this girl, for her family, for... a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: proper burial and, you know, like giving back to the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: family after this like huge tragedy. And what they were
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 8: claiming was that she was trying to block them from
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: doing it. And she was telling them like, if you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: guys are going to give back to her and.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: Them and this family, then I'm good on you.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: But they were claiming it was because she wanted those
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: funds for her church.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: That's pretty awful.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that could be, I don't know.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, what is she going to do?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I think she's kind of doing the right thing and
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: just saying it's all lies because like you're going to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: defend each thing.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: It's so damaging. Like the only thing I can think.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: Of that she should do is to just sell the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: property and just be done with the church.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's the only, if I was Bravo, that's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: like what I would say.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: You're not going to do that.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you're right, I guess. Oh, I don't know.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: You're right, I guess it's tax-free.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: So I guess all she has to do is have
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: one ceremony a year or one service a year and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: then still get some money. And then, yeah, everything is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: a write-off.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: It's the best way to– and I'm not saying that
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: they are funneling money. It is the best way. I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: want to open a church now, literally. Like I want
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: to open the United Up and Atom Holy Sunday– Church
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: of shithead me and get a tax write off.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: I don't know. But like, truly, there are tax benefits
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: to it.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: And then if you think about it, there is something
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: that when you are in this.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: State, you know, it's, it kind of goes hand in
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: hand with what Andy Cohen said about these reality TV stars.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: Like there is an element of narcissism. So they are
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: all fighting like Jax Taylor. I'm the number one guy
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: in this group. No Tom Sandoval. I'm the number one
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: guy in this group. Now, James Kennedy, I'm the number
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: one guy, but it's like for her, she is the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: number one woman in this group. So that feeds an ego.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: You get the tax free. You have people who are
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: just like Yes, queen, you are everything. And then you
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: have these little random fun gifts where people are just
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: contributing to you. She is not going to get rid
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: of that at all. I mean, it just all benefits her.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: What I don't understand, though, on the other side of
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: it is.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: How much.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 8: based off of what I've heard from members of the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: congregation and even former members of the congregation, like how
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: much are you actually involved in the church? Because I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: believe she was really heavily involved before she started Real
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: Housewives of Salt Lake City. And now from my understanding,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: she's not involved really at all. So when she shows up,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: people are kind of like, oh my God. And that's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 8: what the woman said to me when I showed up
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: at the, you know, outside the church, when it was
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 8: all boarded up, they were like, Mary will rise again.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, where the did she go?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: I have a question.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: So, you know, I forgot as they showed the clips
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: of all the girls, Lisa Barlow, they're all telling on,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: on Mary about how awful she's treated her congregation and everything.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: Do we, have you heard from any of them or
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: have any scoop when they got the word that she
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: was coming back?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Were they scared?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Were they just smart enough to know?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: That they better play.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Along and get their airtime and have their fun and
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: not piss her off and just make good TV so
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: that the show is a united effort and stays on
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: the air.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Like what, you know, what do you think?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: They were both.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 7: No, I mean, so I have, until everything happened with Whitney, I.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Have a pretty strong.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Just to remind people, with Whitney, it was that you
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: were blamed for saying that.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: Lisa Barlow was the one who.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Like quickly, what, what was that? I don't remember.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: Whitney went on and said that I made up this
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: lie that Lisa Barlow ended up exposing the fact that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: her jewelry line was sourced from.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: Alibaba, which was not true. And I have all of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: the text messages.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: I really struggled with that because I have strong relationships
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: with a lot of Bravo people and I've never shared
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 8: a text message ever.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: Like I just don't even do that.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: You know, so I, I struggled with like kind of
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: defending myself or not and seeing how it played out
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: the rest of the season. And it, it played out
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 8: in like an okay way where I was fine not
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: doing that. And when I saw Whitney at Kathy Hilton's party,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 8: there was somebody who was another blogger or, YouTuber or
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 8: podcaster or whatever people call it.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: Cause everybody's so offended by it, um, who recorded it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: And I called her out about it. And she was like, Adam,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: you know that I was best friends with your husband.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: And I was like, what's his name? And she goes, Adam,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: I just had to walk the blue carpet. And I
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: was like, what the does that mean? what's my husband's name?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: You were best friends. And she's like, Adam, I can't
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: think right now. I said, Whitney, shut up. And she goes, Adam,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: you know, this is for TV, right? Like you need
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: to relax. And I'm like, no, you went on watch
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: what happens live and said that I lied about something,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 8: which I didn't lie about. And you're lucky that I'm
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: not sharing the text messages. So it kind of went
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 8: back to that. Um, But going back to what was
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: the original question?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: The original question was, how did they feel when they
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: heard she was coming back? Were they, did they think
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: it was good for the show or are they terrified
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: for themselves? Or they're like, we all just better play
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: in the sandbox together if we're going to succeed.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: I think it's one of two things based off of
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: the conversations that I had with them. I think one was,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: it's kind of like, let's just use New York as
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: a comparison.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: Like Ramona is probably a pain in the ass, right?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: But you know, she's good. You know she's good for
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: the show. You know she's going to deliver. And it
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: is what it is. Do you necessarily want to work
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: with her? Some people probably might get annoyed. I think
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: for Mary Cosby, they knew she was going to deliver
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: the memes and the quirkiness and the just silly little
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: antics that were going to drive ratings.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 7: But then also.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: the difference was was that Mary Cosby especially coming off
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: of the pandemic and it wasn't that far after when
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: they started filming you're coming off of a time where
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: it can be incredibly problematic for a white woman to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: go up against somebody of color and she is a
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: woman of color And these are white women. And so
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 8: if you are going to stand up against her, the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 8: first initial thing that people are going to say is
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: you're standing up against her because you are being a racist.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: And so that.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 8: Really paved a way of fear, I think, for the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: rest of the cast to not say the same things
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: that they would say to each other out of fear,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: trying to protect themselves within the network and make sure
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: that they protected their position.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: Only.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 8: Like, no, I totally, I totally not say the same
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 8: things to her that they would say to each other.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: And that's like a brave, but you're right. I think
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: it is true, especially like in post 2020 world. And
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: also I think people have a lot of sympathy for
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: her because she put her son on camera who is
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: struggling with drugs, which I've been critical of because I'm like,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: he probably has a lot of anxiety and use that
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: day because you told him the cameras are coming at four.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Like he shouldn't be on camera.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: I'm starting to wonder too, if she also manipulated him
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: to be on camera for that, the same way that
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: the congregation was manipulated into giving the money, but also
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: based off of what the congregation said, she was on
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: drugs at that age. That's why she was disfellowshipped. So
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: are you just looking at her son with a wig,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: but just 20 years prior?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: There's so many questions. Yeah.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, but you know, people at home, so many
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: people struggle with a young adult child that is struggling
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: with drugs. So I think that she gained a lot
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: of sympathy from the fans there. You know, and she just, yeah, she,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: she is funny. She is good TV, but I'm all,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: but also, you know, the show is entertainment.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: They are not elected officials.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: They are not, you know, people that we should, take
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: you know any kind of advice from they're literally you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: know women that are willing to be ridiculous jump in
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: the water with their spanks on show their tits grab
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: each other's boob you know tongue kiss their husband and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: paint I don't know you know what I mean like
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: all the crazy stuff that they and and then now
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: you're in this category and you got to make the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: best of it you don't want it to end because
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: what else are you going to do like it's it's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: like these golden handcuffs of the reality world. It's you really,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: and it's very hard to actually made it on like
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: a spinoff or done their own thing besides Lisa Vanderpump.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: It's like nobody.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: So you want to stay on the show as long
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: as possible because a spinoff isn't going to happen.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: I think that the only person to be honest with you,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: no matter what they say, I feel like Meredith Marks
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 8: would probably be the only one who would be very
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: content with, you know, if you cut me tomorrow, it's fine.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: I think that she comes from money.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: I've gone, you know, like I went out in Palm
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: beach with Meredith. I went out on, you know, boats
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: and jet skis with her. And then I've seen her
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: in Salt Lake city and New York and LA and Vegas. And,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: you know, like the woman lives very lavishly. And I, I,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: I think that she comes from family money. I'm not
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: really sure.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I, I, I did a mistake cause
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: I did a little I believe she's spending $ 70, 000 a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: month on.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake Rental. Like, we know what you get paid.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City Rental, why are you doing that? And anyway,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: it was a clip.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: And I was just, like, doing one of my rants of, like,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: you know, housewife consulting, like, 101.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Like, you shouldn't spend that much on this rental, whatever.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: And then people were like, she's worth whatever, like $ 100
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: million from her family. And then I was like, well,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: then by all means, rent it for $ 70, 000. for a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand next season who cares there are rumors that
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: um she you know is either asking for too much
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: or might be coming back as a friend because this
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: season people felt she wasn't really bringing it i disagree
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: i find her i just did like like i disagree
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: i find i'm very interesting i i mean i don't
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: care what people say seth and i are great um
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: yeah i mean i Like she's beautiful.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: She's interesting. Her way of speech.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: What do you think about this last episode where they're
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: implying that she has a drug addict, a drug addiction problem,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: Whitney and Mary? I thought that was really like really uncool,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: but again, and they've got to do something. So it's like,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: it's such a, it's such a way to dig at
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: a housewife is to do a thing. And Lisa Rinna
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: did it too. in the famous scene where she's like,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: my sister died. That's why I care about you, Kim.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Cause you're clearly. And Kim's like, fuck you. Like, it's like, well,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying this because I'm. He's doing drugs. And.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: It's the ultimate fuck you thing to do on camera.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Because I never, I never thought for one moment. That Meredith.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Abusing drugs and alcohol.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Until they said it. And then I was like, first
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: of all, she has that weird speech.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: She always has. And why moment where you feel like
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: she's been out of it. I mean, yeah.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: And if Sonia compared to other women we've seen in
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: the house by Francis being hired drunk or whatever, I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: don't think there's been a moment where Meredith has been
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: out of control.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: And you know what? If the new girl brought.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: Up a tick tock where my husband was cheating on camera,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: I'd be fucking pissed too.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 7: And also, back that shit up.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: Don't bring me a TikTok of some random TikToker sitting
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: there saying something about my husband.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 7: Bring me the text message. Bring me the receipts.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Do you know the whole story behind that, girl?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Reddits. She's like, I'm going to read crazy Reddit comments
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: about housewives. So then they call her and they're like.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: And she was like, Oh my God. Yeah, I get
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: to be on TV.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: So then she did one and I came across my
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: feet where she was like, I never was saying.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Like, they took it out of context. I was, she
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: was never saying that a, she was the Uber driver
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: or her friend was the Uber driver.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: She was reading a Reddit that anyone can write anything
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: saying I wasn't, you know, my friend was an Uber
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: driver and Seth was in the back of the car
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: with a girl. And then last episode, uh, Bronwyn says,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: and he was at a dinner with a, a woman.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, why couldn't that be? And you're out
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: in public at dinner.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying like, I've had, how many times have
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: I been at dinner with the people that are not
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: my husband that are men? Most of them are gay,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: but some are not. Well, not all the men in
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: my life are gay, but like, you know, and it's still,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I've had people like say, like say,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: aren't you guys separated?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Aren't you getting a divorce?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, like, but you know, so I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: can't imagine how heightened it would be when that can
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: be a storyline.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: You know, I was just out with women, their husbands
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 8: and gay men on New Year's Eve. And my husband
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: was in Portland, Oregon at a monastery. And people were like,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: why are you here with these random people, especially gay men?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: Like, what are you, is everything okay?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, Yeah. He wanted to eat, pray, love.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: And I wanted to get my booze on and like
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: dance on bars.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 7: We had two different journeys for 2026. We are fine.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: I went to, yeah, I was at the Rachel, you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: could beach with Jill Zarin and, you know, and my
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: husband and they, and it was the biggest dump ever
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: in mammoth.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Sons and husband wanted to ski.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: And I've done that skiing New Year's Eve in mammoth
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: over and over and over again. So like, yeah. But,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: you know, people love to talk and judge and whatever.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: And so I can imagine why that'd be annoying, especially if,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: you know, why would someone freak out that much if
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: it wasn't true? If it was true or if it wasn't,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: it's a fucked thing to do. And that's what she
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: was reacting to.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: It's a fucked thing to do. Like, that's it.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 8: Going back to what you said about Mary Cosby and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: Whitney bringing this up about her being accused of having
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: some sort of substance abuse issues.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: It's like, You two are, why?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 8: You're putting your son on camera and having him, one, sure,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 8: you're sitting here and you're hiding behind the guise of like, oh, well,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 8: this is so helpful to so many people, which it
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: could be. However, he's 20 years old. And, you know,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: like when somebody, a future employer looks him up, they're
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 8: going to see where he said, well, I did Klonopens
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 8: and hydrocodone and cocaine because, Life was like unseasoned chicken
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: and I wanted to add some seasoning. So now that
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 8: lives on the internet for forever and also all streaming services.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: So good job. And then, and I'm not judging her
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: for it, but like it will follow him.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: It will.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: And we all know that.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 8: And then for Whitney, your dad ended up bolting after
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 8: you were trying to help him and then exposing him
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 8: in the confessionals as a total drug addict and he
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 8: left because he couldn't handle the scrutiny he couldn't handle
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 8: any of that So now in turn, what you guys
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 8: are doing after seeing how this affected two.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 7: People that you both really, really love.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 8: Now you guys are going to do this to somebody
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: who is on your cast and direct the same energy
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: to somebody after knowing how it affects other people.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: If I were Meredith, I would be like, fuck you.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 7: Fuck you and fuck off.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: And unless we see her, unless they're hiding some behavior, like,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: you know, Monica Garcia just came out.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: And she said, allegedly, but she did that whole little dance.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 8: And she's like, you know, there's a cast member who
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 8: wants to sit there and allegedly talk about Meredith's drinking
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: and all of that, but they were wheelchaired into the
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 8: hotel and they had to be wheelchaired out and escorted
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 8: out into an ambulance to get their stomach pumped.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: And we all had to stay in our rooms, allegedly.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: And people believe Heather.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 7: That was Heather Gay.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: It was Heather Gay at my friend's restaurant.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 7: That's what they believe, yeah. Was that Trixie?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, it was, it was Copley's restaurant. Oh, okay. Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: And, um, anyway, that's what she's sitting outside and they're
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: doing the, she had too many espresso martinis.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: Which if you have too many of those, you will
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: puke you. Cause it's coffee, it's alcohol, it's everything. We
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: know how long those days are. And I know from
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: the waiter there that sets, wait, start again, talk again.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Come enter again. So that was like a whole long shoot. So,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: you know, even if that did happen to her again,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: so what?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Like it happens. It happens.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that Heather has an issue either.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: It's like, so what if it happened to her? But
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: then also don't put the shit.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: Heather is like the number one driving force behind everything
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: on Meredith. And by the way, listen, if you get
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: fucked up on espresso martinis, one, it's coffee, two, it's vodka.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: So yes, if she's over here in the sprinter van
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: shitting herself and puking at the same time, like, yes.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: That's going to happen. We're not judging.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 8: You but also lay off of other people because everybody
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 8: gave you.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: Grace right and also as far as heather goes but
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: the black eyes because she still doesn't know about the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: black guy because out and woke up with a black
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: eye we don't know if she woke up in the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: middle of night to go to the bathroom hit her
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: eye woke up on the on the toilet and was
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: like whatever crumbled back into bed And then.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Woke up the next day and had a black eye.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: That totally could have happened. And it most likely wasn't
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Jen Shaw. Who the fuck knows?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: You know, it took two books and 14 episodes of shows.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: And we still never found out. And a book tour.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: And we still never found it. Because the truth is
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: the truth. In the second book, it's like, oh, I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: went to the bookstore and I looked it up. And
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: it was, oh, we were so drunk. We were so wasted.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: I woke up with a black eye.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah. And also she milked it.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 8: But then also my problem with Heather Gay is I,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 8: oh my God, at BravoCon, it was so awkward. I
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 8: was two doors down from her in the same, at
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: the Four Seasons. I was two rooms down and she
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 8: does not like me after the Jen Shaw interview. She
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: has this weird, just disdain for me. And what's wild
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 8: is when she first started the show, I thought she
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: was going to be my favorite housewife ever. And then
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 8: what happened was it was like the quintessential, like the fame,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: the attention, the, the whatever it got to your head.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 8: You got this big ass. She already had a big
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: ass head and a big jaw, but it made it bigger.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: It all got bigger. Like you had, like, I don't.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Her body got smaller, but her, Right.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: Your body got smaller, your head got bigger. Now all
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 8: of a sudden it's like Heather Bratz doll gay. I
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 8: don't know what happened. And I'm not sitting here, guys,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: I'm not shaming body shaming or anything like that because
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: she looks better than I do at this point. So
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: like good for her. But what I do want to
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: say is. You got mean and you lied on an
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 8: entire production crew and jeopardized their jobs.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 7: You've lied on multiple people and jeopardized their jobs.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Black guy.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 8: You've also gotten people fired. Her getting Monica Garcia fired
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 8: over having the stupid... reality Von T's thing. My God,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 8: give me a break guys. If you would have kept
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 8: Monica around and I don't even talk to Monica that much,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 8: but if you would have kept Monica around, she would
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 8: have been one of the best housewives. And that's what
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 8: bothered Heather for sure, because she would have been a
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: phenomenal housewife. She came in and she said, I fucked
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 8: my brother-in-law for 18 months.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: I got a foreclosure. I hate my ex-husband. I hate
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: my mom.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 8: This is what's going on. And it was just so open.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 8: And Heather was definitely threatened by that. So then Heather
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 8: started bringing up all of these things in order to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 8: get Monica off 1 million percent. It's like you are
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: one part really insecure and two part just very big
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 8: headed because this.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: Has all gotten to you.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: And now when you have new people come in, like
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: whether it's Bronwyn or Brittany Bateman or anybody, you're like, ladies, we.
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  Speaker 7: Need to unite because we have had.
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  Speaker 8: people infiltrate this group and we can not.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, what's really interesting before I
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  Speaker 4: forget is in, in studying the cults and the, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and all this stuff, the fact Heather gay had where
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  Speaker 4: she goes, now we're going to all say the horrible other,
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  Speaker 4: and we're going to read them aloud and, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: that is like a weird cult humiliation. It goes on to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, do the three-part cult. She probably is the
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  Speaker 4: right person to do it because she was still using.
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  Speaker 2: That was some pretty....
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  Speaker 8: But did you notice that she didn't read anything on
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  Speaker 8: that episode and nothing was read about her?
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  Speaker 7: Did you notice both of those?
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  Speaker 4: Well, or it wasn't shared, but yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Or, yes, it was edited out.
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  Speaker 4: juicy scoop and, um, yeah, this is great.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: Anywhere you guys go, whether it's Instagram, Tik TOK, uh,
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