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Wammen Demands Access to All Male Nude Resort, Wammen Most Affected | Maintaining Frame 52 · Honey Badger Radio

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Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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I'm here with Allison and this is another episode of Maintaining Frame. This number
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fifty two. By the way, women demands access to all male nude resort
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whamen most affected. Um. I took a little bit of liberty with that,
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a little bit, yeah, yeah, because of Originally we were going
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to call her a Karen, but then we thought, well, you guys
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might get confused and think we were talking about v Karen Aaron demanding access to
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an all male, all male nude resort. I think that she, if
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she wanted, she'd just tied in the bushes with some binoculars. Yeah,
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or probably wouldn't make a big deal out of it, and men would probably
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let her. So okay, fine, if you want, you know you're
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one of the good ones. Um. So we're gonna be looking at this
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article from Queer tea queer rt dot com. I don't know, I don't
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know what queer t is, um, and I will show you guys really
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quick. Woman sues all male nude resort for discrimination after allegedly harassing patrons and
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trashing owner. So also, shouldn't that be alleged discrimination if they're gonna go
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with allegedly harassing patrons. Yeah, it would in a in a world where
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you know, the media was uh some somewhat trustworthy. I don't. I
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don't know how reputable this outfit is, but I guess, um, we'll
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find out. I imagine that it is. It's a just judging from the
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title, I think it's probably an LGBT Q plus. Maybe it's just LGBT
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or gbt G lbt G l G No no wait wait wait wait B comes
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first, wouldn't like wouldn't it be b B LG like bacon, lettuce and
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tomato sandwich? Yeah, that's yeah. I think I think I'm I'm part
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of that party. Except yeah, that's what that's my that's my gender.
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Yeah, I'll just have to have some rice bread, Okay, m hm.
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So I think it might be um more of a gay oriented publication I
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would imagine from the Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean if
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it's an all male nude resort, I don't want to assume, but that
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sounds like something that would be well, we'll see. I don't want to
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jump to conclusions, but does that job to conclusions about let's not do anything.
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I won't give you spoilers. I won't give you any spoilers. Yeah,
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yes, I've read it already. I won't give you any spoilers so
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that you can enjoy the full frontal revealm. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay.
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I chose this because it's just you know, it's a little lighter.
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It's probably going to yield a much shorter show, which some of you do
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like to see. Yeah, because they're more sharable. It's more like a
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cartler as opposed to a sausage. Yeah. Yeah, it's not the full
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yeah, long length of sausage just about as much as Oprah would like,
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m yeah to make face out of. But it does have something like a
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deeper quality to it because this is sort of the contention over the progressive stack
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in action, shall we say so, we shall see who who's victimhood warns
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Supreme Already we see a little bit of a slant towards the woman because the
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discrimination isn't alleged, but apparently the harassment and trashing the owners m h,
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unless they really just wanted to go with the absurdity of it, like this
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woman wants access to an all nude resort, like a male, all male
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nude resort. Yeah, she wants to have access to a whole bunch of
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men just hanging around naked. Okay, h And I just find this actually
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sort of I'm using in the context of some arguments against trans women. I
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was gonna say, like, does this woman sis? Well, well,
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I guess we should wait. Yeah, oh oh sorry, Starry, no
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spoilers, no spoilers. Yeah, I don't know, but I'm I'm I'm
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gonna go out on a limb and say this is a CIS woman because they're
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calling this person a woman and not a trans woman. That's That's the only
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thing I have to go on. But we will, we will see.
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So no that you are making a woman happy, but that's all,
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isn't. Oh my god, oh my god. Oh like, don't do
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it. Actually, don't do it now. Don't centric reasons. Don't do
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for gynocentric reasons. Do it because you want to send me something that will
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torture me. Yeah, she's a man, and then do that. Pretend
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she's a man and then do it. Yeah, okay, all right,
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let's do this. Let's get into the story. So queery dot com women
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sues all male nude resort for discrimination after allegedly harassing patrons and trashing owner,
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a Florida Keys cis gender woman. So it's a CIS woman and the fact
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that the US in that language tells me that this is probably a let's say
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a website for alternative lifestyles. Says that she is the victim of discrimination after
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being denied to stay at an all male, clothing optional resort geared toward gay
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and bisexual men in Key West, Y. Yeah. I didn't want to
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give you any spoiler, no, but I you know, I was like,
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look, I mean, it's not that straight men can't be around other
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straight men, but it's not like something that comes natural. I remember when
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I was in high school and uh, for physical education, we had swim
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class, and whenever there was swim class, people were just expected to just
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shower naked like all the men, right, And it was weird because you're
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like, I'm like fifteen that that's like totally weird to me. But when
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I heard about this, I was like, oh, it sounds like a
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bath house type thing, you know, where gay men go to meet and
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greet. Let's say, yeah, so um, okay, but this is
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a day space for gay men and there's a general woman that's being discriminated against.
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Yes, and again I have to mention the argument against trans women in
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women's bathrooms. Okay, nobody's nobody's gonna say to this woman, no,
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you can't go in, because oh, you're you're gonna immediately start raping men.
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Mhm um. Although I mean, honestly, she could go in and
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immediately start groping them or making them otherwise uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm sure they
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would be. I mean, first of all, they don't know her.
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You know, it's not because they're gay. It's because she's a stranger and
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she's just I mean, if that were to happen. But I would like
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to know why she would be making this demand. But I guess we'll wait,
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I'll let's pervert huh Like what okay? Okay, of all of the
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buffet of options, So why this woman would be making this demand? I'm
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guessing because she wants to go into an area with a probably a high preponderance
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of attractive men and you know, just enjoy the view, shall we say?
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Yeah, put it down to brass text, like the idea that she's
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doing it. She's just a perversion to her personal gratification. The female perverts,
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Alison, those don't exist. You're talking about Greek mythological creatures like the
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chimera. There's no such thing as a female pervert. We all know that
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that's always men m And she doesn't even have to identify as a man or
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attempt to look like one. She can just demand that she occupy the space
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where men are in specifically to enjoy the bodies of men, and she can
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demand occupy this space and claim discrimination and this is credible. Yeah, okay,
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all right anyway, So but the story is all kinds of messy and
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stems from two previous incidents, reports the Keys Weekly. According to a complaint
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file to the Florida Commission on Human Relations against the Island House Key West Resort,
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state resident Amina Chaudhry claims the business has a discriminatory policy that caters to
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male patronage over women, and she is seeking to have the policy reversed.
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So this is another example of something that happens all the time. Men have
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a space for themselves. It doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. Just
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just bear that in mind, right, But in this case, they're gay
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men who would which would normally like rank a couple of points up on the
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progressive stack. But gay men are pretty low on that totem pole compared to
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others because mainly because they're men, and also because they're just gay and not
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like something you know, really out there like fucking you know, galaxy gender
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or whatever they have these days, So that means that they are still privileged
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in particular because they're men. So anyway, and whenever this happens, inevitably
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women come along and they're like why, why, why is there? Why
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are you excluding me? You know, no matter what. Apparently, even
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if it's a bunch of naked men that just want to be around a bunch
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of other naked men, that is still like upsetting to women. So you
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know, it's like, why are why why am I not included? I
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don't know, you don't have a penis and that's what I'm interested in.
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Yeah, this sort of reminds me of something I remember vaguely about, like
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a female, like an attractive woman who was like a journalist, and she
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went to a men's resort for men, and it's I guess it really really
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shocked her that the men that she approached weren't interested in having sex with her.
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Yeah, like what what what I mean? Okay, uh, yeah,
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I don't. I don't. I don't know. I don't live in
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that person's head, and I don't think i'd like to, so all right,
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anyway, Representing herself during an administrative hearing about the complaint, Chaudhry said
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she is seeking no monetary damages and only wishes to have any court costs and
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legal fees incurred covered by the resort's owners. So she just wants to make
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a point. I mean, yes, she just wants to make a point.
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She wants to make a point. So it's funny because like she is
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a woman, Like, imagine a man trying to do the same thing.
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I know that that's kind of a tired old like way of viewing things.
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But if a man went to a lesbian space where there were lesbian and bisexual
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women walking around naked, and he insisted that he'd be let in, and
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then he sued them or whatever, you know, claimed discrimination, I mean
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we first of all, it would be national news, like everyone would know
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about it. There'd be thought pieces written all over the place, and everyone
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would like condemn this guy, and I would say, rightfully so. But
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in this case, it seems like, oh, there's there's nuance here.
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We should probably look look at the nuance. Guys, get in, get
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in that nuance between let's dive into let's excavate the nuance and all the nuances.
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Is that we can't we can't hold this woman to the same goddamn standard
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as we hold a man. No right if the man did it, he
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would be laughed at it. Okay, honestly, he might get violence visited,
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he might he would be labeled a pervert, absolutely, and his he
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would lose his job, his livelihood, like everything liked And yeah, friend
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what no, No, nobody would stand up for the guy, like I
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guess you know what, I don't even know if we would, because yeah,
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well it's still he's still doing something wrong. I mean, like,
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you know, so, no, I wouldn't defend his actions, That's what
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I'm saying, Like I would find that's beyond the pale. That's like ridiculous.
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Like this is something, this is sort of a thing that I've only
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really seen with women, and it's because of a socialization and probably instinctual expectations
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of being protected. They will do the most appalling and sort of grotesque and
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cringey things with absolute self righteousness. Yeah. Like the moment that this sort
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of like I just this light bulb turned in my mind was when I watched
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a Karen I don't even know if there's a word for this type of woman.
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She walked into a Tim Horton's and they said that bathrooms were for customers
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only. She took a ship in her hand and threw it really at the
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cashier. Yes, but it was because she was entitled to go to the
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bathroom or something. Yeah, and so she takes a ship in her hand
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and throws it at the cashier. But what's astound is that throughout this entire
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process she didn't look like she was mentally ill or on drugs or stone.
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She looked like she had whipped herself into a state of absolute self righteousness.
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I'm like, what kind of mentality not just takes a ship in a Tim
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Hortons and throws it the cashier. What kind of mentality does it thinking that
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they're in the right, you know, looking like you're right. You know,
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you're not in a you're not having a psychotic episode, you're not on
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drugs, unless you can consider self righteousness a drug and entitlement a drug.
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But she just did this like, oh yeah, I'm in the right here.
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No. I think that if you're at any point in your life you're
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taking a ship in your hand and you're about to fling it at somebody makes
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minimum wage doing anything for you, any kind of service, you are in
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the wrong. I cannot put possibly see a scenario and which flinging feces at
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any kind of food service employee or any kind of a customer facing employee is
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the correct thing to do, you know what I mean? Can you?
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Can you? There's no scenario, And yet she managed to get into a
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headspace where this is like, Yeah, this is this is absolutely the thing
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I should be doing. I am titled to do this. This flicks,
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this ship fleeing episode is going to bring more morality into society. That's gonna
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make things better. It's gonna it's gonna set a set a standard of behavior
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that I'm like, how I've never seen that with men? I haven't I
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thought that, like poo and pee were like really good ways of making an
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argument. That's isn't what weren't the philosopher kings of old doing that too?
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Like? Were I thought that I can't maintain this poker face? Well,
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maybe how do you say his name? Diogennies Jennys in Diagones yet lived in
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a barrel and like masturbated. Maybe he would have he might have done that.
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It's like, yeah, I can just imagine Plato and Socrates having a
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discussion and then it just well, sir, allow me to retort fling.
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I mean, I will you supposed to change hearts and minds without using bodily
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fluids and excretions. But um, yeah, that's oh god. But that's
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the thing that My point is this she did it with such a state of
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absolute self righteousness and this I ah, yes, well played, everyone clapped,
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well play. Please your your argument is unimpeachable, it's unimprovable. But
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I've just this is a little bit less of a m hmm piquant statement.
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But no, nevertheless, there's a certain level of self righteous chet spot in
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alleging discrimination because a gay resort, a gay nudist resort, does not want
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a woman hanging around in with with men being nude, you know, just
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that they're just like, yeah, you know, no, we don't,
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we don't want that, thank you, no, thank you. Yeah,
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and um, there's a certain amount of chat spot to do this and not
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realize that, yeah, you're in the wrong. Yeah, the word,
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the word is it's so bad, mister singing and the playing and the shaking
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of the tukas shaking of the tukas. You guys don't know. That's from
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Dewey Cox. It's a great movie. Walk Hard. I highly recommend it's
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hilarious. Um, you know what I've been watching recently, or at least
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being forced to watch by my husband Jonathan m What these bizarre AI commercials.
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Oh, I've seen a couple of those. Those are freaking nightmarish. Man,
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really really scary. Like I'm like, this is what the AI is
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going to do to us. It's gonna it's gonna make nothing but endless commercials
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and turn our bodies into fucking puppets meat puppets to like entertain itself. It's
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it's, oh my god, it's what it is. It's so fucking creepy.
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Do what it is? It doesn't really have a sense of um continent,
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like causal continuity or physical boundaries like we do. Oh no, you
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know. Yeah yeah, so it starts to feel yeah, nightmarish. Yeah,
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because because that's sort of what we I think that's the mental state state
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we sort of go into in our dreams. I was gonna say that's what
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it looks like because like the text is legible and um, people's faces are
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distorted. It's like the black Hole Sun music video by sound Guards, you
23:19
know, make it that is actually less creepy. Have you seen the have
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you seen. I know this is completely off topic, Okay, but have
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you seen the video where Joe Biden invites Donald Trump getty? Yeah, yeah,
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I've seen that. I've seen where Trump goes into the ocean and he
23:37
like captures like an octopus and brings it and feeds it to a bunch of
23:41
other former presidents like Biden and Obama, and the whole time, the octopus
23:48
is writhing like it's alive, even though you know they're eating it and they
23:52
cook it and everything. It's just I don't know, man, Like,
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I'm not really worried. I'm not really worried about artificial intelligence. I think
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that people are making it into something that is far bigger than it really is.
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Like they're they're saying it's more advanced than the human brain. I'm like,
24:07
do you realize how complex the human brain is? But beyond that,
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I'm not worried about artificial intelligence at this stage. I'm worried about the people
24:18
who make it and what and and the people who program it, and the
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people who they're they're biased, whether conscious or not, gets into it.
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And That's what I'm worried about. So well, the one, yeah,
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I know, the problem is that AI just doesn't really have that sense of
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causality, and it doesn't really have a sense of boundaries like that, this
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is a human being. These are the boundaries of the hams, these are
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the boundaries of the mouth. This is how this works. It's all just
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sort of an average of everything, right, and it becomes so really bizarre.
24:51
Yeah yeah, it's just yeah, and it's it's it doesn't like AI
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won't, at least right now, can never applicate the intelligence of having existed
25:03
within a body, and that that kind of intelligence is tactile and geometric,
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and you can see that it's completely absent and also causal, and it's completely
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absent with AI what it's doing just creating an avocude like no, so that's
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what I'm saying. It's it's it's not gonna be able to do what we
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can do. Yeah, just ask the AI how it would feel if it
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hadn't eat and breakfast yesterday. Yeah, yeah, that's of me. Okay,
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all right, anyway, let's go back to the back to the article.
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But anyway, that was a fun little diversion away from this cringe.
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Um so let's see, but the plot thicket, Yes, as it always
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does. According to the owners of Island House, Key West, women are
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allowed and encouraged to stay at the at the resort. I assume it's supposed
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to be resort, it says report, but I don't think that's right.
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There are separate apartment units available for this purpose. However, Chaudhry was one
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of many non guests at the resort who were asked to leave after the end
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of a pride fundraising event held at its pool and the resort returned to a
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clothing optional dress code. The artist played So there was a pride event and
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yeah, so this woman went to this pride event was asked to leave because
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she wasn't even a guest. Yeah, and then she whipped herself out into
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a self righteous fury and apparently has no point in all of this, step
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back and said, should I be doing this? Yeah? I probably don't
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belong here, right, Yeah, especially since I haven't paid. I'm not
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even a guest. So she was just in there, Okay, Yes,
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yeah, yes, she wasn't even a guest. Wow. Indian women are
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thirsty. Okay. So anyway, according to the owners that at I read
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that part, there are separate apartment units available for this purpose. However,
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Chaudrey was one of many non guests at the resort who were asked to leave
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after the end of a pride fundraising event held at its pool, and the
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resort returned to a clothing optional desk dress code. The owner explained that Chaudrey
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was asked to leave because she was not a guest at the resort, not
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because she is a woman. Although female resort guests are not allowed into the
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clothing optional section of the building, the resort has an agreement with a resort
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next door to provide pool amenities for female guests. Okay, separate but equal.
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But on the other hand, you know, do a bunch of men
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who are just interested in hanging out with other men naked, do they really
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want a woman in there? Because women have this thing where they not only
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do they curve out and they have absolutely no sense when they shouldn't be touching
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or staring, or any kind of sense that there their attentions are welcome or
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not welcome. I mean, like, women are really bad for this in
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my experience, and I think it's you can also see it in statistics.
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They don't realize that, they don't accept that people might not want to be
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men might not want to be stared at or touched by them, so that
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probably these these guys who are interested in other men aren't interested in that that
28:27
may being made uncomfortable in that way. And then the other thing is that
28:30
women have this tendency to go into a space. And I don't mean all
28:34
women, but it's it's something that that our society facilitates. So when I
28:38
say women, realize, I'm saying the legal entity women. What women can
28:45
do if they are so inclined because they're high on their own self righteousness and
28:51
entitlement, which is also encouraged. Um, you know, they'll go into
28:56
this and that they'll make claims of harassment or sexual assault. They literally walk
29:00
into weiner bill and see there were weeners there, yep. And they were
29:08
assaulting her and they were assaulting my eyes yep. It reminds me of that.
29:15
I think it was from India actually, but it might have been like
29:21
from Middle East, but it was like this this feminist like PSA where the
29:26
woman was like, I was raped and then she basically like describes things that
29:30
are not rape. So like, you know, because some woman was laughed
29:37
at by men, like on a public bus or something and she felt bad
29:44
and to this woman, that's rape, you know, like so and again
29:47
like things that never happened. For five I did not get I did not
29:52
get a sweet and sour plum sauce packet with my spring rolls. I was
29:57
I was raped. Oh yeah, I remember that, Oh God, as
30:04
a class and she had a whole bunch of men. Yeah, yeah,
30:08
that's right. Oh man. Yeah, she is supporting her throughout. Oh
30:14
god, that was the cringest that that really that really made me cringe.
30:22
And I remember that she she didn't she she actually attacked a man who was
30:26
going through like a might have been terminal cancer, and everybody rallied around her
30:32
because she him actually because her accusation was so absurd, like she just was
30:37
standing there with him. He disagreed with her on something, and then she
30:41
immediately went to this man is sexually assaulting me on camera. I mean she'd
30:47
been he'd been standing five feet away from her the entire time. Pretty sure
30:51
that's how it went down. What was her name? God, this is,
30:56
but I don't think that's her. Josh, No, No, Darna
31:00
Joshi is the woman that was like, uh messing with Hugh Mongus. Yeah,
31:07
that's right. Yeah, I'm I'm huge mangas. And then she's like
31:11
she he's he's sexually harassing me with that stupid dad person. Um this no,
31:17
this is the same person. This is the same Because I'm as weird
31:23
as it is. I'm subscribed to Jarna to Zarna Joshi Joshi because I want
31:29
to see if she makes any more cringe. So, oh man, that
31:32
is so superb cringe, Like she she really does mean that, actually yeah,
31:41
but also you know it might I've noticed that, uh well maybe not
31:45
noticed, but it seems like there's some excellent cringe coming from certain Indian women.
31:52
Yeah, well, you know Indians. There's a lot of uh,
31:56
there's a lot of fighting over her gender stuff there because the men's issues advocates
32:01
in India are like very active. It's like South Korea. But that means
32:07
that the resistance is like just as you know, just as bad. Yeah,
32:12
and I don't want to say like because there's also some men's issues advocates
32:15
female men's issues advocates in India as well. I can think of what is
32:21
her name that she made the movie about, Um dpack deep yeah, deepdepack.
32:28
Something I've I'm friends with her on Facebook two terrible with Names story about
32:32
that. Yeah, but yeah, this is yeah probably yeah your probably that
32:38
sounds about right, yeah, um the uh but also the woman who did
32:44
Velma whose name escapes me, Mimi Kyling. Yeah I only know because that's
32:49
basically like a stage name. Her name is probably you know, yeah's something
32:53
a bit more complex. Yeah, but god forbid she actually be who she
32:59
is. Um but the but that was some serious cringe too. Oh yeah,
33:05
this bizarre combination of severe thirst and retissment. You know, like that
33:12
retisment. How do you say that word? Reticent? No, no,
33:15
the resentment, but except resent French, so it sounds more philosophical. Yeah,
33:20
yeah, the politics of resentment. So it's like severe thirst and yet
33:24
resentful towards the men she's thirsty for, which I'm guessing where is where this
33:30
woman is at? Too? Yeah? Okay, all right, anyway back
33:35
to this um So Chowdery reported reportedly attended the annual fundraiser at Island House in
33:45
twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, but last year she placed flyers around
33:49
the resort, claiming the owner was discriminatory. She was then denied a night
33:53
stay at the resort she was then denying. Oh so she wanted to stay
34:00
and they've denied it to her. About the twenty twenty two incident, owner
34:04
Bobby Lore testified that he felt affronted by her actions, and this is what
34:10
he said before a judge. Quote, here was someone who was invited to
34:15
the space and enjoying it, but while passing out literature to the detriment of
34:20
our property and aggravating our guests, he said before Administrative Law Judge John Van
34:25
Lanningham. That sounds like a judge's name for sure. Quote we eventually had
34:30
the police escort her off the property end quote. A judge will now consider
34:35
testimony from Chaudrey and the resort owners and draft a recommended order to the Commission
34:39
of Human Relations. Audrey Wayne LaRue Smith, who was one of two attorneys
34:45
representing Lore, said that he is confident that the hearing went well and the
34:51
judge has a good grasp of the circumstances. He added, quote, we
34:54
are persuaded that our methods and model of doing business are in full compliance with
35:00
law. So um, I think it was attorney way Smith, not Audrey.
35:08
I think he might have said Audrey, but I might have heard completely
35:10
wrong. Yeah, was that in the last attorney Wayne LaRue Smith? I
35:16
thought I said that right, but maybe I didn't LaRue Smith. Yeah,
35:22
let's look at the comments. Let's see what these people are saying. Well,
35:27
Karen at the bath house, that sounds like a new musical starring Patty
35:30
Lupon. Yeah, these guys are gay. Immediately go to musical, right.
35:34
I don't even know who Patty Lupon is or LuPone or Nuploni or whatever.
35:38
Why is it so hard for hags to know when to leave the party?
35:42
Baggs, Yeah, I know, I know, I'm yeah, I'm
35:46
pretty sure that's yeah, because you are in the in the gay lingo.
35:52
But that's you know what, that's okay, that's okay. I'm I'm not
35:55
I'm not trying to harsh on their mellow. So you know, you well,
36:00
they are pretty freaking mellow. Can you imagine if this was lesbians and
36:04
a man, Oh my god, oh my god, someone would have lost
36:07
their life by now, um this this that would they would not be so
36:13
chill. This is like a bunch of guys going, why you do this?
36:19
Yeah? Why are you gay? Is it? Jack me Off says,
36:27
is it just a ploy to get the bath house closed down. I
36:30
mean, that's possible. Derek Northcutt says, the Island House is not a
36:34
bath house. It is a respectable bed and breakfast that caters to gay men.
36:37
Your wish to discredit it with a reductive name is not only boring,
36:40
but it is a trimp a thing Trump does. I've stayed there, it's
36:44
nice. Well that's a bit over compensation. First of all, Why bath
36:51
house is not respectable? I mean, well, because presumably they have sex
36:55
in them, but has to do Trump like nothing? Yeah, uh okay,
37:06
so at least at least Greg is being honest. Yeah, it might
37:10
not be a bathhouse, but as much sex goes on there and is in
37:15
any true bathroom. Having stayed there on three occasions, yeah, I'm sure
37:20
that if you brought a black light into some of the rooms, people like
37:22
a Jackson Pollock painting. Um. Yeah, I mean okay, but are
37:28
you fair enough? Maybe it's not just a bathroom. There's not just a
37:30
venue to have sex with other men. I mean, you know, the
37:36
next person tells us, you know, says that he's an older gentleman and
37:39
he likes that he's able to stay somewhere with his husband that you know he
37:44
doesn't get gruff, although I wonder in Florida how much gruff you'd actually get.
37:49
But regardless, Um, what's the next comment? Well, in this
37:53
room, in this thread, because no, no, no, no,
37:58
that's back and forth is not fun, and so it begins. Next up,
38:02
Rhonda moves in to make a law banning clothing optional statewide, regardless of
38:07
town acceptance. The only argument is that we insists on genital inspection. Sometimes
38:13
hags gonna hag. Um, no fishing in the pool. Yeah, they're
38:21
using fish to refer to. Yeah, oh this is a this is a
38:25
good one. So this is these guys are they're all they're all gays gay.
38:30
Um. I've stayed at Island House twice and felt extremely comfortable there.
38:37
At what point can gay men enjoy the company of other gay men without having
38:40
females present? For me, having come out late in life after a thirty
38:45
four year marriage to a woman, I relish being able to be with gay
38:49
men. Never to Jay Bear, it doesn't matter if you're gay or straight.
38:53
Um that women are want you're not allowed to have spaces to yourself.
39:00
Yeah, and we must include women and women don't even have to try to
39:02
be masculine or even tolerate a way that your your environment and structure. That's
39:07
the other thing. Like women can go into wherever you are and demand you
39:13
change everything. Yep, and you all you can do is comply or you're
39:17
a sexist. And I've seen this over and over and over and over again.
39:23
Huh. Next one open minded um. Open minded says, I'm all
39:32
for eye age prevailing in court on this. I don't know what that's the
39:37
hotel in question? Oh okay, but is there okay? But the queer
39:44
community gets all up in arms when a straight bakery wants to refuse service to
39:47
a gay patron. This can be twisted to be a gay male owner refusing
39:52
full accessibility to a public accommodation. So the owner is also gay, which
39:58
I mean that makes sense, Like why would he, you know, open
40:00
a business. I'm not surprised. Maybe he's a true capitalist who knows,
40:06
well, you you can be a gay capitalist. Gay men do really well.
40:10
So but I could see that, like you're like, well, like
40:15
you're looking for, you know, a business that you can open that that
40:20
stands apart in some way than a place that is open to game you know,
40:23
gay people or LGBT people or whatever, and accommodates them in a way
40:28
that goes above and beyond a normal resort or hotel. I can see that
40:32
because it's going to I mean, it may not be like it's gonna be
40:37
more niche, but maybe, but but you're gonna you know, you're gonna
40:43
corner that market, however small. So I think it makes sense to do
40:45
that. Um, yeah, all right. Anyway, this can be twisted
40:51
to be a gay male owner refusing full accessibility to a public accommodation. I
40:57
want to think the provision of alternative pool facilities will overs but but it could
41:01
go either way. Won't surprise me if I became a male member's only facility
41:06
selling ten dollars memberships to all who visit or stay there. Like they say,
41:10
you can't have your cake and eat it too, oh cake jokes,
41:13
get it because of the bakery. I think that I think that any business
41:20
should be allowed to discriminate for any reason, and I think it's the easiest
41:23
way to do it, so you don't have to try to, like,
41:27
you know, come up with some like twisted, worm infested like reason why
41:35
it's okay when you do it, and not okay when someone you don't like
41:37
does it. If you don't want, like, if you think it's wrong
41:42
that a bakery. It's not a straight bakery. By the way, he's
41:45
calling it a straight bakery, but it's not a straight bakery. It's just
41:47
a bakery. And the guy had he didn't have an issue making the cake,
41:52
but there was content they wanted written on it or something that he wasn't
41:58
that disagreed with his personal religious beliefs, and oh okay, so yeah,
42:05
it wasn't that. He didn't say we don't serve your kind here, which
42:07
is basically how it's framed. He just said, you know, for him,
42:10
it was an issue of his religious beliefs. Maybe it has something to
42:15
a gay marriage, but that doesn't matter because at the end of the day,
42:20
why did those men in essentially feel the need to make this guy make
42:27
this product for them, like you literally can't do that. So it wasn't
42:30
man, it was a lesbian couple. It was a lesbian couple, all
42:34
right, So none still same thing, right, it's but my point is
42:38
if you let people should just be allowed to discriminate, and if you don't
42:42
like the way that they're doing it, maybe you don't want to give them
42:44
your money anyway, So like, what's the problem mh No, I especially
42:51
the way you framed it, because it was originally framed that that, you
42:54
know, but also bakery, there are plenty of other bakers to choose from.
43:00
If a bakery refuses to your custom, you're not completely cut out of
43:06
a marketplace. So I mean it might be a bit different if, um,
43:12
I don't know, like a train station refuses to serve gay people or
43:19
or some kind of public service, Yeah, like a larger service or even
43:23
I don't think the government can do that, that's the thing, like they
43:27
have a limitation, but I mean individuals that own their No, But even
43:30
even if it was a private train service, like there's a little bit of
43:34
complexity there, Like you can make an argument for that, sure, But
43:38
I mean if it's something that that's more required for for everyday living, mum,
43:45
you know, if it's something that's more open to the public than an
43:47
individual bakery. Yeah, you know, if if they if it's like a
43:53
bakery that owns every bakery in the US, and then they say we're not
43:58
going to serve you, then you know, you don't have to walk down
44:00
the street and find another baker, Like, yeah, you can't. Right
44:05
then you're excluded from a service entirely. That That's when I might say,
44:08
okay, that's that's a problem. But when when you can get the same
44:13
service and have somebody who's happy to serve you and wants your money, why
44:16
wouldn't you support that business? Right? You know, if it's not if
44:22
it's if it's not a difficult thing to go, I'm pretty sure that they
44:27
upheld the right of the bakery to to discriminate or at least not not do
44:34
something. And the other thing is that they're asking for a service that is
44:38
actually separate from other other customers, Like you know, a gay person using
44:44
a train is just sitting in a chair like every other customer. Right.
44:47
Yeah, I like that he's saying. If they went in and they just
44:50
wanted a cake and they didn't like specify anything, he would have made it
44:52
for them. Mmm, you know it was it was the problem wasn't even
44:58
the cake. The problem was the cake's message. I guess, like you
45:01
know, how you can write on them or maybe like a decoration they wanted.
45:06
Maybe they wanted two women. I don't know the story. All I
45:08
know is what the media told us, which is, you know, homophob
45:14
refuses Christian homophobe refuses to serve gay couple, you know, because of his
45:19
homophobic views. Um And And I knew that that story was fishy when I
45:24
heard it because I was like, what, the guy's been in business for
45:27
like decades, are you saying that everyone in the city is like homophobic,
45:30
like because they're all giving him business? But um, whatever, And I'd
45:36
like to see them try that at a at an Islamic bakery. Go go
45:38
for it, go forward. Yeah. So well, I mean it's also
45:42
like forcing an Islamic bakery to make Christian symbols, yeah, or Jewish stuff
45:47
right yeah, or even worse would be I mean they would might still do
45:52
it, but maybe make a drawing because that's sort of against Islam too.
45:58
Yeah. Could you know, could you put Muhammad's face on this cake?
46:01
No? Um that yeah, that would be I'm telling you, like,
46:07
but I'm okay with with with people refusing service on grounds like that like that,
46:13
you know, whether it's religious or just their beliefs or whatever. Right.
46:17
So, I mean it's like we we have I think that people are
46:22
just better off if they're allowed to say no. And I think that that
46:25
makes sense because otherwise you're basically just engaging in you know, coercion and slavery
46:31
in a way. So um anyway, so uh, open minded, long
46:39
winded thing that basically means, look, you know, you should just let
46:44
them refuse service, and let the straight bakery refuse service too. Whatever that
46:50
is. Well, at least there's a logical consistency there. Yeah, right,
46:54
And so no, he's not with it, He's he's asserting it,
47:00
like he's saying that there's needs to be logical consistency. Oh yeah, sure,
47:05
yeah, m hmm, okay, next, all right, last one,
47:08
Winemaker says, really, why would a female want to go to a
47:12
resort exclusively for gay men other than to cause trouble? Hopefully I'm not missing
47:16
something here. There are places strictly for men, and they're those strictly for
47:21
women, no opposites allowed, and by the way, it's legal. Actually,
47:24
there aren't many places for men. There really aren't. I mean,
47:29
like even like male locker rooms for for professional athletes are not um strictly for
47:36
men. Like female reporters go in there all the time, you know,
47:39
at least they used to. I don't know if they still do, so
47:43
that really aren't any place. What. Yeah, this this seems so unfair.
47:47
And I know that whenever they do like a whenever they do a non
47:52
gender inclusive washroom, it's always the male washroom. Yeah, of course,
47:57
of course, you know. Yeah, no, not I mean a gender
48:07
gender neutral bathroom. It's always the men gender neutral. It's always the men's
48:10
bathroom that gets converted. Yeah. Um, if they want to do like
48:14
a binary bathroom, again, it's always the men's bathroom that gets converted.
48:17
It's always men who have to make space. This is the first time I've
48:22
ever seen sis women have to make space. And it's interesting to watch the
48:27
reaction considering how much space men have had to make for the last how many
48:31
centuries for women. And when the shoe is on the other foot, boy,
48:38
they can't handle it, many of them, even even the ones who
48:44
were loudest about how they were entitled to men's spaces. Okay, anyway,
48:51
I thought this was an interesting, interesting sort of small That same bakery that
48:57
like turned down that lesbian couple, they got targeted by activists demanding that they
49:05
get like basically placing orders for penis shaped cakes and uh, devil's blowing like
49:12
sucking cocks and stuff like that, just like trying to trigger this guy.
49:16
Um again, you know, like why like why why do you insist on
49:22
forcing people to celebrate who you are? People you don't know, people you
49:28
wouldn't give your money to, Like why don't you just get on with your
49:30
life. It's it's like it's kind of a thing. But um, anyway,
49:38
that's and we still don't go ahead, we still don't have a day
49:42
to celebrate, Like Men's Day in is not really about this. We still
49:45
really don't have a day to just celebrate the men's contributions, just just the
49:51
contributions that happen as a result of men's expendability or the sense that they should
49:55
expend themselves in service of society and are indifference to it, Like we still
50:02
don't have a day to recognize that we got a memorial Day, but that's
50:06
just for soldiers and out's basically for men and women that we don't have a
50:10
day for just recognizing how much our society relies on the men who allowed themselves
50:17
to be treated as expendable in the creation of our infrastructure, in roads,
50:23
and trains and dams and tunnels and skyscrapers. You know, our entire society
50:32
has a huge price tag in terms of men's lives, and we exist without
50:38
ever once acknowledging that. I had this astounding exchange with this feminist. I
50:46
sent this tweet and it said something like, I have a fantastic new idea.
50:52
All right, why don't we as a species start protecting and providing for
50:59
the people who give birth? I mean, I think that I realized that
51:04
evolution hasn't figured that out for the human race. Yes, I mean evolution.
51:09
Evolution hasn't figured that out for the human race, even though it figured
51:13
out the eye. But I think that could make a make a species really
51:16
successful. Our species really successful is if we protected and provided for women.
51:23
And of course this was facetious, but some woman was like, um.
51:29
She's like, ah, men have never never protected and provided for something something
51:35
Um, And so she's like this is huge. She comes in with his
51:39
huge chip on her shoulder, and she says, I ask her, when
51:46
do you think men started to care about women? Because really, that's that's
51:52
the crux of it, right, yea, all of the all the feminist
51:54
assertion is basically, men didn't care about women. They don't care about women.
52:00
Yep. Either they just started caring about women, they never cared about
52:06
women, or they started caring about women in the sixties. But none of
52:09
those, None of those obviously add up. Yeah, um and uh.
52:17
So I asked her, okay, so, and she her response was never
52:25
men have never cared about women. Of course. Well, it's the only
52:30
thing you can say, because you have to double down. Yeah, pretty
52:34
much. And so I said, okay, so, how are you going
52:38
to deal with the fact that men don't care about women? You know?
52:44
What? What? What? What is your solution? Mhum? If men
52:49
hate women so much and they just don't want to protect or provide for women.
52:52
And she basically said, I live my life without men. And I
53:00
asked her what the hell does that look like? And so far I have
53:06
had no response to that, none, none, whatsoever, of course.
53:17
And the thing is that she's essentially what she means when she says she's living
53:22
a life without men is that she's not in a relationship with a man.
53:28
Oh good, because I wouldn't want a man to be in a relationship with
53:30
her. But she certainly lives with all of the utilities that men provide,
53:38
all of the safety that men provide as police, and also the soldiers that
53:43
establish this the system of plenty and stability. I mean, people don't seem
53:50
to understand that our society is built on the backs of World War One,
53:58
in World War two and the men who died in it, and it was
54:00
men. I mean, people talk about civilian death. No, no,
54:04
there's it's not comparable, not with numbers like seventy seven men for every one
54:07
hundred women in Russia or nine ninety men for every one hundred women in the
54:15
UK. And again Germany got Germany got hit bad, France got hit bad.
54:21
These are huge, huge rates of death and their blood. But the
54:29
stability that we are now pissing away, and we refuse to explicitly acknowledge that.
54:37
And she lives in a world entirely constructed by men's sacrifice. It is
54:43
the air, it is the water. She's a fish, and that is
54:46
the water she exists within and she can't see it because she exists within it.
54:52
Yeah, and so she doesn't even understand what she's saying when she says,
55:00
I want I'll live a life without men. Really Okay, Well,
55:07
um, go walk into the wind woods. And but he's still like,
55:13
you wouldn't survive for one. For second, if you're using any tools that
55:17
our society uses, you are still benefiting from a society sacrifice for constructed and
55:23
built by men. And I'm not saying women didn't do anything, but let's
55:29
be honest here. Who is the ones doing the work that really needs to
55:35
get done, the work that keeps the lights on, the work that keeps
55:38
the sewers running, you know, the work that keeps our plumbing water flowing.
55:44
Men? And she just like a life without men. Really, I
55:51
don't think you're living that at all. No, you're not anyway. So
55:57
yeah, anyway, that's the end of the article. I don't know if
55:59
you have any kind of thoughts on it or if we basically gave it,
56:01
you know, a good rodgering, a really good or rodgering, yes,
56:07
squadgering. Um. I think my final analysis is just leave the gay guys
56:14
alone. Speaking of Roger, shouldn't let them have their nude freaking pool?
56:20
Oh my god, let them have their thing, yes, let them have
56:24
their thing. Yeah. Yeah, basically like when they want to be alone,
56:29
leave alone. Yeah. And also men should straight men should be able
56:34
to have their own thing that's male only. It shouldn't just be you know,
56:39
gay men that are allowed. And when men make a thing, women
56:44
are not automatically entitled to it like this, the thing like nobody. This
56:47
is what really blew my mind. A while back. I was just thinking
56:51
as I do, and I was chewing over people's preconceptions, and then it
56:54
just occurred to me. We have a sense that if men build something,
57:00
like men could go out in the middle of goddamn nowhere and build something just
57:06
men. You know, all they they were coalesced, like you know those
57:08
boys on the beach and they built that. They dug that hole, remember
57:12
that, Yeah, and they just the more boys gathered and the hole got
57:15
deeper. You know, they just go out. Men will go out and
57:19
they'll just build something all by theirselves, all under their own initiative, using
57:23
only their own labor and resources. And then women will just somehow sort of
57:30
trail in there and be like, yeah, we owe us half by what
57:34
metric? And this is what's so crazy. I was like thinking about this,
57:38
This is absolutely doesn't hold the other way. If women had done that,
57:43
that would be considered in perpetuity, just for women if they had built
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something with their own Hell, if they build something with men's resources, like
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domestic violence shelters, they consider it their own. And that men shouldn't be
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able to have any a toe a finger in there to where that idea come
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from. That if men go off and build something, women are owed.
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And I realized it's instinctual. It's freaking instinctual. Men concede to it because
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it's an instinct to protect and provide for women. And we all believe that
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women are entitled because we're dictated to by our instincts. There's nothing just or
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fair or equitable in the expectation that men just simply deliver up the things that
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they do to women. There's no equality enough anyway, No, of course
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not um all right. So yeah, and even even even even if that
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thing is just a space where they're where they're like display their bodies, it's
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still women are apparently are owed Jesus, yeah, oh man, human Okay,
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all right, So let's so that's the end of the article. Let
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us know what you guys think about that in the comments. I guess we
59:08
got one a couple of other things we could look at, or at least
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one more thing. So yeah, this is from we have a space in
59:15
our discord called masculinity is Awesome, right, and people post articles, videos,
59:24
you know, and images of basically like shows like you know, um
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they're good in men, And so I thought we would take a look at
59:34
this. Are you looking? Yeah, I'm looking, just a little chaser
59:39
after the cringe. Yeah, speaking of pools and water, all right,
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So here's a man playing with a dolphin, but the dolphins in water and
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he's like outside looking in you like, what, maybe he knows something about
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dolphins. No, I think it's just it's just, oh my god,
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this is so cool. I guarantee that men do spend more time thinking about
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doing cart wheels with dolphins, and they think than whatever feminist think men think.
1:00:37
Yeah, oh my god. So yeah, well I was just gonna
1:00:51
say there's one thing that's neatness about men. They have a sense, a
1:00:53
stronger sense of play throughout their lives. Yeah, which I think inspires a
1:00:59
lot of creative and women could learn from that. M instead of instead of
1:01:04
self righteous pooping, how about fart jokes? Yeah, how about that?
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It fringe work. I think everyone like I don't think I didn't see anyone
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give her the space. I mean, granted, it was a gay
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But but yeah, I mean, you know, if you well, here's
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like the way that the left labels marginalized groups, gay men are at the
1:02:36
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1:02:38
were already knocked down a peg when they change the acronym from GLBT to LGBT.
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