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Smokey and the Bandit (1977) With Cars and Comrades · Left of the Projector

• 0:00
  Evan: Which one of you picked chose the like decision was for the movie did you like
• 0:04
  Evan: collectively come to the decision to do.
• 0:06
  brandon: I feel like this was my decision but i don't remember making it because i definitely was gonna say i.
• 0:10
  Connor: Think brandon kind of came up.
• 0:11
  zach: With this from my memory.
• 0:14
  Connor: Yeah it was i think it was on the um on our colorado trip i think we we had
• 0:21
  Connor: discussed uh recording with
• 0:23
  Connor: with you and then uh i don't know who this decision was but i think i think
• 0:28
  Connor: i might have suggested smoky and the bandit and then brandon would have enthusiastically
• 0:32
  Connor: been like i fucking love that movie so.
• 0:34
  brandon: Well this as as i i have told the story on our show this is a formative movie
• 0:39
  brandon: for me like this movie bizarrely changed my life and that i'm mentally unstable
• 0:44
  brandon: and made decisions because i watched this movie too many times in.
• 0:48
  zach: There in there buddy,
• 0:52
  zach: i
• 0:53
  brandon: Before streaming was a thing but you could get like uh you know the cable services
• 0:57
  brandon: that would like you could direct like not direct tv but you you could basically
• 1:01
  brandon: stream movies but it was through like yeah cable uh i watched this movie like
• 1:06
  brandon: five times one weekend i think i was hurt or something and just laid up and
• 1:10
  brandon: that was how i decided to become a truck driver,
• 1:15
  brandon: a decision that led me to actually going to trade school and getting my cdl
• 1:19
  brandon: and becoming a truck driver before realizing i'm also too mentally unstable
• 1:23
  brandon: to be a truck driver could.
• 1:25
  Evan: Be worst thing that you could have chosen.
• 1:26
  brandon: Oh yeah i no regrets i still have my cdo well.
• 1:29
  bryant: There you go could have become a cop or something yeah even.
• 1:34
  brandon: In my least politically developed that was never a fucking option same.
• 1:37
  Evan: Here brandon t justice.
• 1:39
  brandon: I'll fuck right off with that shit.
• 1:43
  bryant: Yeah i think i had only ever seen this movie like on tv like in sections you
• 1:48
  bryant: know a few minutes at a time and you know i had like a vague idea about you
• 1:52
  bryant: know what it was about but like this is my my first time seeing it all the way
• 1:55
  bryant: through and it was a lot of fun for sure i.
• 1:58
  brandon: Haven't watched it in so long i truly did forget how like without using a hard
• 2:02
  brandon: r buford t justice is so explicitly racist yeah.
• 2:07
  Evan: I um the only thing i'd ever seen i think was the like the bridge jumping bit
• 2:12
  Evan: like i guess just because it was a famous scene and this is the first time i
• 2:16
  Evan: watched it full through and then i watched it a second time and it was uh it's a lot of fun i,
• 2:22
  Evan: I don't think I was surprised that I liked it, but I was surprised how much I liked it.
• 2:26
  brandon: Oh, it's so fun. And I really understand why Burt Reynolds was so much the charmer.
• 2:32
  brandon: He was such a cultural icon back then.
• 2:35
  brandon: And now it's almost like a joke. But looking back and watching some of his old
• 2:39
  brandon: movies, I totally get it.
• 2:40
  Evan: Yeah, the story that I heard, or the behind the scenes, apparently,
• 2:45
  Evan: he got the script and said it was the worst script he'd ever seen.
• 2:49
  Evan: and is like well but you know what i'll do it anyway because i like you know
• 2:53
  Evan: he was friends with the director and he's like well you know what fuck it i'll do it yeah i think.
• 2:57
  bryant: I think he said um he liked the story but the dialogue was garbage.
• 3:01
  Evan: Right and i think they but then apparently improvised a.
• 3:04
  bryant: Whole lot of the dialogue on set.
• 3:05
  Evan: Yeah it said that 80 of the dialogue from uh the sheriff was improvised and
• 3:10
  Evan: then at least half of the rest of the whole like sally field didn't even know
• 3:13
  Evan: how to do improv like kind of off the cuff and burt run is like oh she'll be
• 3:18
  Evan: fine and then i'm sure he's it was fine knowing.
• 3:21
  brandon: How much of this was improvised makes a lot of
• 3:24
  brandon: things make i don't know a lot about the background of this movie
• 3:27
  brandon: to be clear i just and also uh for anyone who uh i there's no reason i would
• 3:32
  brandon: have ever talked about this i fucking love jerry reed there was a period of
• 3:36
  brandon: time where i sought out any movie that he was in he is an amazing guitar player
• 3:40
  brandon: i know i have jerry reed records he has been one of my favorite country musicians for
• 3:45
  brandon: as long as I can remember. That dude fucking rules.
• 3:48
  Evan: Yeah, and he wrote the song, the theme song, in one night.
• 3:51
  zach: Which is crazy to me.
• 3:53
  brandon: I'm surprised.
• 3:54
  zach: Like, that blows my mind. That is such an iconic song, and just, like, so good.
• 3:59
  Evan: Yeah, they just gave him, basically, he read the script, and he went,
• 4:01
  Evan: you know, into his, wherever it was, and he wrote the song, and he goes to Hal
• 4:05
  Evan: Needham, the director, and said, you know, what do you think of it?
• 4:07
  Evan: And he's like, if you change one word, I'll fucking choke you out.
• 4:13
  brandon: Real quick, quick should we do any sort of introductions or anything we really just went right.
• 4:17
  Evan: Yeah i'll i'll we can use that as the cold open and i'll i can introduce you
• 4:21
  Evan: sometimes i just forget because we were just we're just chatting about it but
• 4:26
  Evan: yeah i cannot but thank you brandon for being the uh the voice of uh my voice of reason i.
• 4:32
  brandon: Honestly thought that we had agreed that we were doing fast and furious so when
• 4:35
  brandon: somebody was like hey are we still good to do smoky and the bandit with evan
• 4:38
  brandon: i'm like oh my fucking god really hell yes sit back in your seats get something
• 4:42
  brandon: to eat watch this movie don't let the kids see.
• 4:57
  Evan: This week on Left of the Projector I have the hosts the four hosts of Cars and
• 5:03
  Evan: Comrades and we're going to be talking about the 1977 film Smoking and the Bandit
• 5:09
  Evan: which stars of course Burt Reynolds Sally Field old Jerry Reed and Jackie Gleason.
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  Evan: And thank you all for being here. Zach Connor, Brandon and Brian.
• 5:19
  zach: Thanks for having us.
• 5:21
  Connor: Hey, yeah, thanks for having us.
• 5:23
  brandon: Yeah, I'm stoked.
• 5:24
  Evan: Of course.
• 5:24
  brandon: We've been talking about doing a big collab between both shows for a while,
• 5:27
  brandon: so I'm happy this is finally happening.
• 5:30
  Evan: Yeah, I'm glad that you chose this movie. And as you probably already heard,
• 5:33
  Evan: this was some of our first times watching this.
• 5:36
  Evan: And I was kind of, you know, just kind of blown away how good it was and how
• 5:40
  Evan: funny it is. And it's just a solid all-around movie.
• 5:43
  Evan: But maybe before we talk about it, you do want to tell us about The Cars and
• 5:48
  Evan: Comrades. so I guess it's a perfect melding about a movie about driving cars
• 5:52
  Evan: and we were all comrades so we have done.
• 5:56
  brandon: Also it's not like as blatant but this movie is very much Fuck the Police I
• 6:01
  brandon: thought it was blatant I thought it was the whole point.
• 6:04
  Connor: Of the movie This.
• 6:05
  brandon: Is the most ACAB movie ever No because at the end he does that begrudging respect
• 6:12
  brandon: like oh I can't lie to you sheriff you're too good of a man He was fucking with.
• 6:15
  zach: Him I totally knew that Well.
• 6:20
  brandon: No, because he told him who he really was. If he was just messing with him,
• 6:23
  brandon: he wouldn't have been like, oh, by the way, I'm standing behind you.
• 6:26
  brandon: Actually, no, now that I say that out loud, I 100% understand how that's fucking with him.
• 6:30
  zach: That's his final fuck you to the guy. He's like, hey, you're not going to get
• 6:33
  zach: me. Like, look, I'm right here. You're not going to get me.
• 6:37
  brandon: 60% of your car is left. Good luck catching me.
• 6:41
  Evan: This is like when hillbillies, or when the Southerners actually hated cops.
• 6:45
  zach: Right?
• 6:45
  Evan: This is a throwback from that era.
• 6:49
  bryant: In the ending credits, it says this film was made with the cooperation of the
• 6:55
  bryant: Georgia State Highway Patrol or something like that.
• 6:58
  bryant: And I don't think that would happen today. Like if they were making this movie,
• 7:02
  bryant: like, I don't know if, you know, cops had more of a sense of humor in 1977 or if they did not, or,
• 7:09
  bryant: or if, uh, they just didn't like share the entire script with them or something.
• 7:14
  bryant: I don't know if this would get me.
• 7:15
  Connor: I mean, they were flipping cop cars right away.
• 7:18
  brandon: But, uh, my background, I've, I've discussed this on air.
• 7:22
  brandon: Um, I'm from Georgia and in the seventies, the George, a Georgia sheriff's deputy did murder my uncle.
• 7:28
  bryant: Hmm.
• 7:28
  brandon: Yeah so the police not chill in the 70s yeah.
• 7:31
  zach: Yeah i think yeah right away i think they've always been bastards it's not like
• 7:35
  zach: a new development that cops are shit i mean i think we all know at this point
• 7:40
  zach: that they their origins are in slave catching so you know not chill people ever really yeah.
• 7:48
  brandon: I do think that there's been a systemic shift towards a lack of accountability
• 7:52
  brandon: to like to individuals and like cementing like all these bad practices and policies
• 7:57
  brandon: because Because my uncle was murdered.
• 7:59
  brandon: He was literally, from what I am told, put down on his knees on the side of
• 8:02
  brandon: the highway and executed.
• 8:03
  brandon: And the sheriff's deputy did go to prison for that because everyone was like, oh, that's murder.
• 8:09
  brandon: As to where now, there's a reasonable
• 8:11
  brandon: chance that he would have gotten administrative leave or something.
• 8:14
  Evan: Got a talk show.
• 8:15
  Connor: Yeah, he would have become a right-wing icon. Like a Kyle Rittenhouse of cops.
• 8:20
  Evan: Tim Pool's guest host or something.
• 8:23
  Connor: Oh, God.
• 8:26
  Evan: But yeah so as i mentioned you do you all do have a podcast cars and comrades
• 8:32
  Evan: do you want to uh i guess the the name is quite obvious because uh you know
• 8:35
  Evan: maybe uh descriptive enough but do you want to tell uh people who may not know
• 8:39
  Evan: you i guess brandon you've been on the show before so people may have some inkling but.
• 8:44
  brandon: Yeah i'm not very articulate i repeat i am from georgia that's.
• 8:51
  bryant: Uh what do you call it internalized orientalism or something like that.
• 8:55
  brandon: Yeah no i'm being from georgia it's not why i'm inarticulate it's because i'm
• 9:01
  brandon: i'm so drunk which probably has something to do with being from georgia i don't
• 9:05
  brandon: know no okay um since i keep rambling on yeah we're we're a podcast where we
• 9:09
  brandon: are all leftists and talk about cars and car
• 9:12
  brandon: culture from a leftist perspective and generally try to as much as you can as
• 9:17
  brandon: a group of like white dudes uh we try to create some element of inclusion in
• 9:23
  brandon: car culture where you know there does tend to be a certain amount of right-wing shittiness yeah so
• 9:29
  brandon: We would like to make the hobby for everyone. Also, we've shifted hard into
• 9:33
  brandon: an anti-car position. That's an interesting term.
• 9:35
  bryant: Yeah, it's the more I like, you know, get involved with cars as a hobby,
• 9:40
  bryant: the more it loses its shine.
• 9:42
  bryant: And it's just I wish I could just take public transit to work,
• 9:47
  bryant: you know, and not have to have a car, honestly, or at least have cars as a hobby
• 9:52
  bryant: and not as a necessity, you know?
• 9:54
  zach: Yeah, exactly. We're very pro-cars as a hobby, not as the main form of transportation
• 9:59
  zach: for all people in the entire world.
• 10:03
  Evan: So, trains and comrades?
• 10:05
  bryant: Yeah, almost. I mean, we've done a few episodes about trains and public transit in general.
• 10:10
  brandon: I'm down to eight cars now. How can you expect to extend that to the population?
• 10:16
  Evan: Well, I guess speaking of cars, I'm curious what you would say about the,
• 10:22
  Evan: not necessarily it's like the truck in this movie but the the iconic
• 10:25
  Evan: car that's used in smoky and the bandit which i heard that they received four
• 10:30
  Evan: of them to use and then at the end of the there's only four pontiacs and only
• 10:35
  Evan: one of them could run at the end of it and then the what's the other what's
• 10:39
  Evan: the one the sheriff drives i'm blanking now on the car he has a tempest.
• 10:42
  brandon: I think that was also a pontiac.
• 10:44
  Connor: It was a pontiac i don't know which model maybe like a tempest or something.
• 10:48
  Evan: Yeah i tried.
• 10:50
  brandon: To look into it because i was curious about like okay so a sticking point for
• 10:54
  brandon: for this movie i haven't i've gotten much more uh knowledgeable on cars since
• 10:59
  brandon: the last time i actually re-watched this so i was like getting really hung up
• 11:02
  brandon: on the fact that like his his trans am looks cool and fast,
• 11:07
  brandon: police like the handful of police cars that i'm familiar with from the era they
• 11:11
  brandon: tended to be exempt from a lot of the like fuel economy restrictions 70s police
• 11:15
  brandon: cars could move and that uh trans am was a 400 cubic inch engine producing almost 200 literally.
• 11:23
  Connor: I was gonna make a note of my notes as well yeah yep same great minds think
• 11:28
  Connor: of like we were all like god damn this thing's like got the power of a fucking
• 11:32
  Connor: uh frs you know what i mean yeah i i went ahead and looked it.
• 11:36
  zach: Up because i could see on the uh the ram air
• 11:39
  zach: intake it says 6.6 liter on there so i went ahead and looked up what 6.6 liters
• 11:45
  zach: in cubic inches is and yeah that's just over 400 cubic inches and the the post
• 11:50
  zach: i read said that it made about 180 horsepower which is yeah less than half of its cubic inches they.
• 11:58
  brandon: Made a high output version that was i think.
• 12:00
  zach: Closer to.
• 12:01
  Evan: 200 yep so So I'm assuming this is good if you want a fast car from a person
• 12:06
  Evan: who knows nothing about cars.
• 12:08
  bryant: This is, I think, the beginning of what they called the malaise era,
• 12:11
  bryant: where you had all the emissions laws coming into effect that sort of choked.
• 12:18
  brandon: I would say this is a few years into that.
• 12:21
  Connor: Yeah, it is.
• 12:22
  bryant: So you had all these emissions controls that really choked the power of all these engines.
• 12:26
  bryant: uh but they hadn't developed like um you know fuel injection or turbo charging
• 12:32
  bryant: or any of the stuff that gave you actually decent power like starting in the
• 12:36
  bryant: 80s so uh it was a it was a great.
• 12:39
  Connor: Time all of that all of that was a consequence of
• 12:42
  Connor: the emission standard so like it created this
• 12:44
  Connor: period where like the cars got real slow real fast and then eventually car makers
• 12:50
  Connor: started getting clever with turbos and fuel injection and so the technology
• 12:55
  Connor: was a necessity because of the emissions controls so that's why we have the
• 13:01
  Connor: cars we have today making crazy horsepower,
• 13:04
  Connor: and all that it comes from this but at that time yeah these cars were slow they
• 13:10
  Connor: were slow as shit the trans am in this movie looks very cool but i was like
• 13:13
  Connor: man i'm almost surprised he could spin the tires like that i was like that thing
• 13:18
  Connor: would yeah live rear axles and no.
• 13:20
  brandon: Weight really helped.
• 13:21
  bryant: That out a lot yeah they probably put a little bleach on the wheels there.
• 13:25
  brandon: I am very familiar with this because my cutlass has the 403 olds so only three
• 13:32
  brandon: cubic inches bigger roughly the same horsepower a bit more torque but yeah i
• 13:37
  brandon: can spend my tires all day long i.
• 13:38
  bryant: Mean i did yeah i.
• 13:39
  brandon: Can't go very fast but i can break the trans am did have.
• 13:42
  bryant: Uh 320 foot pounds of torque which is pretty good but not for us yeah it was.
• 13:47
  brandon: The other.
• 13:47
  Evan: One was a pontiac lamans yeah that was the the ones the other one oh.
• 13:51
  brandon: I i looked up what um i i
• 13:54
  brandon: couldn't find much about pontiac police cars because
• 13:57
  brandon: i i know that dodge were more common and you would see
• 14:00
  brandon: like some chevy so there were a lot like a lot of the the cop cars in this were
• 14:04
  brandon: pontiacs and i couldn't find any broad information about like pontiac police
• 14:09
  brandon: cars and what kind of like performance packages they had but by this era they
• 14:13
  brandon: were very concretely of the opinion that they needed a lot of power because
• 14:17
  brandon: what if they They had to catch the bad guys.
• 14:18
  brandon: We have to put everyone in traffic's life at risk because that guy was speeding.
• 14:23
  Evan: They literally used this movie as like their evidence.
• 14:25
  zach: Yeah. I wonder if that has to do with like some sort of sponsorship deal that they got with Pontiac.
• 14:32
  zach: Like, I mean, obviously the hero car is the Pontiac.
• 14:35
  Connor: It has to be.
• 14:36
  zach: And then all of the cop cars are Pontiacs in the movie. I'm assuming Pontiac
• 14:40
  zach: had something to do with the movie and funding the cars.
• 14:44
  brandon: I wondered about that too.
• 14:45
  Connor: Same with Coors. i was noticing.
• 14:49
  brandon: No no i know the backstory for that and you guys be glad that you're on here
• 14:54
  brandon: because like my dad was a fucking redneck old like truck driver and i actually
• 14:58
  brandon: understand the cultural reference that this is that's lost to the ages yeah.
• 15:02
  Connor: Oh let's hear it uh.
• 15:03
  brandon: It's not as dramatic as i just made it sound but um in the 70s cores was actually
• 15:08
  brandon: considered good beer not every city had 18 breweries where you could get like
• 15:13
  brandon: an ipa that tasted like dog piss um Um,
• 15:16
  brandon: there was, there was a handful of breweries and yeah,
• 15:20
  brandon: Coors was considered actually good beer,
• 15:22
  brandon: but you true to form could not get it outside of like Colorado and certain other States. So,
• 15:30
  brandon: It was a real thing that truck drivers would like bring cases of Coors like
• 15:34
  brandon: home with them when they were traveling.
• 15:37
  brandon: This is I will say, like, I don't know this like hard and fast.
• 15:40
  brandon: This is what my dad told me, because I remember one of the first times I watched it with him.
• 15:44
  brandon: I was like, why the why didn't they not just go to the store and find a bunch of cases of Coors beer?
• 15:50
  brandon: And he was like, oh, because like back back then you couldn't get it.
• 15:52
  brandon: It was really good. But like nobody had it. You had to like know somebody who could bring it to you.
• 15:57
  brandon: So this was not sponsorship from Coors. is this was like cores was a bit of
• 16:01
  brandon: a cultural phenomenon in this way like you couldn't get it but it's like in and out.
• 16:05
  bryant: Burger or something.
• 16:06
  brandon: Good.
• 16:07
  Evan: Comparison the idea that they actually came up with for the director need i'm
• 16:10
  Evan: apparently on the set for the movie gator which i guess was burt reynolds movie
• 16:14
  Evan: before this one someone had also.
• 16:17
  brandon: With jerry reed.
• 16:18
  Evan: Yes also fucking that's why jerry ends up in in this
• 16:21
  Evan: one so apparently someone had brought some cores to
• 16:24
  Evan: like the to the the director or
• 16:27
  Evan: something and they kept putting i think actually bert reynolds directed gator so
• 16:30
  Evan: they're putting it into his refrigerator to give to him because it wasn't
• 16:33
  Evan: available where they're filming it in georgia and the cleaning person
• 16:36
  Evan: kept stealing the beer from the refrigerator oh yeah and so they're like you
• 16:40
  Evan: gotta stop doing that and then it gave them like the idea of like oh what if
• 16:43
  Evan: we had a movie about someone who like needs to bring a bunch of cores because
• 16:46
  Evan: they just want to drink cores beer and it only was available in 11 states in
• 16:50
  Evan: 1975 or whatever 76 so couldn't get it very get any places yeah.
• 16:55
  bryant: It's uh or i don't know if it still is but it back then it was unpasteurized
• 17:00
  bryant: and had no preservatives so they would.
• 17:02
  Evan: Only ship.
• 17:03
  bryant: It in refrigerated cars i think um,
• 17:06
  bryant: Yeah, I'm not sure how it how it works today, if they've changed the recipe
• 17:09
  bryant: or what. I'm sure they'd tell you no.
• 17:11
  bryant: But yeah, I might have mentioned this when we were planning this,
• 17:15
  bryant: but I used to live in Golden, Colorado, near the brewery where they make all the cores.
• 17:20
  bryant: And it's an interesting tour. If you're ever in there, you can,
• 17:24
  bryant: I think it's like a self guided like audio tour now, but used to be like they'd
• 17:29
  bryant: have someone show you around.
• 17:31
  bryant: And you know, you get some free samples at the end. um but
• 17:34
  bryant: i don't buy cores anymore i wouldn't
• 17:37
  bryant: pay them money um after what i've
• 17:39
  bryant: learned about the people that own the company um well
• 17:43
  bryant: it's crazy yeah uh if you want to know more about that there's a really good
• 17:46
  bryant: episode of the dollop about it um yeah a bunch of bunch of fascists basically
• 17:50
  bryant: i think two of the chorus family were founding members of the john birch society
• 17:55
  bryant: and the heritage society or heritage foundation nice i mean super cool yeah they.
• 18:01
  Evan: Used to uh they used to in like the the 1960s and 50s they would actually give
• 18:07
  Evan: new employees a lie detector test to make sure they weren't communists gay or like did drugs.
• 18:13
  bryant: Yeah it's.
• 18:14
  Evan: It's insane like the whole story i haven't i haven't listened to that podcast
• 18:16
  Evan: episode but i've read a couple articles and it's insane.
• 18:19
  bryant: They also had had just like uh.
• 18:21
  brandon: That's that's funny to me as someone who in 2024 has
• 18:25
  brandon: had to pass a drug test for their job and is also not allowed
• 18:28
  brandon: to be in the union if i'm in a communist party wait really sort
• 18:31
  brandon: of that's funny there's there's a clause in our
• 18:34
  brandon: union contract that says we're not allowed to be a member of any
• 18:37
  brandon: like revolutionary or like uh it's it's it's a holdover from decades ago but
• 18:43
  brandon: like yeah it's a suppose somebody else from uh another leftist i know that is
• 18:47
  brandon: in another um you uh you uh united steel workers branch told me that yeah tech
• 18:53
  brandon: like technically i can't join psl So good luck.
• 18:56
  bryant: Yeah.
• 18:58
  zach: Before we get too far away from it, I just wanted to,
• 19:01
  zach: create a frame of reference for any non-car people
• 19:04
  zach: who might have no idea what it means to have 200 horsepower out of a 400 cubic
• 19:09
  zach: inch engine um the new the new dr the new dr corolla is a 1.6 liter three-cylinder
• 19:17
  zach: turbo and makes 300 horsepower so less than half of the cylinders and
• 19:24
  zach: a hundred more horsepower out of a a car or an engine that's like yeah a third
• 19:32
  zach: of the displacement or less really because 6.6 liters i mean.
• 19:36
  brandon: Yeah less than a third that's.
• 19:38
  zach: A quarter or less and.
• 19:40
  brandon: Oh yeah jesus i did my math there yeah.
• 19:42
  Connor: Um technology's gotten a lot
• 19:45
  Connor: better um and that era people there's a
• 19:48
  Connor: there's a certain nostalgia aspect where people remember their 70s cars as you
• 19:52
  Connor: talk to your your dad or grandpa oh i had this 70s this and that and you're
• 19:56
  Connor: like yo that thing was slower than a fucking 90s camry and it's not even close
• 20:00
  Connor: like it's like nah those cars were fucking slow man they remember.
• 20:05
  brandon: It was cool.
• 20:06
  Connor: But like they were not fast.
• 20:08
  brandon: The other weird like uh point of reference though is that pontiac the pontiac
• 20:12
  brandon: 400 was was pretty prolific that was
• 20:14
  brandon: Pontiac's performance motor shy of the 455 a 400 and like 1970 was probably
• 20:20
  brandon: making 350 horsepower that's how badly it was gutted it was a little bit more
• 20:26
  brandon: than half the horsepower five
• 20:28
  brandon: years later because they were actually like being controlled a bit and.
• 20:32
  bryant: And I'll say also my my 2017 electric car has more power and accelerates quicker
• 20:37
  bryant: than the Pontiac but uh I I wrote down in my notes it's, you know, say what you will about,
• 20:45
  bryant: Burt Reynolds and Salafield, but I think the Pontiac is the sexiest character in this movie.
• 20:51
  bryant: I mean, even if it is kind of slow, it is a really nice looking car.
• 20:54
  bryant: Like, I like the gold accents and the wheels, like the sort of
• 20:58
  bryant: I don't know what you call that, like diamond honeycomb.
• 21:01
  brandon: Honeycomb.
• 21:01
  bryant: Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:02
  brandon: Those are sick wheels. This is a really cool car. If I have one objection,
• 21:07
  brandon: and I had to dig in a little bit to find this, so I don't know if it's 100% accurate.
• 21:10
  brandon: Supposedly, they wanted the brand new Pontiac, like 1977 would have been the newest thing.
• 21:17
  brandon: But it wasn't even fully released for production yet.
• 21:21
  brandon: So, what they did was they took four 1976s and put the 77 grill and headlight assemblies in.
• 21:27
  Evan: That's true.
• 21:28
  brandon: True it's true 76 front end looks so much fucking better they downgraded the
• 21:31
  brandon: look look of the car in my opinion i i prefer round to square headlights but
• 21:36
  brandon: um i i'm not super intense about that but the fact that they did go through
• 21:40
  brandon: that effort to to supposedly i.
• 21:42
  Connor: Heard that too and i i find that very yeah i think this is oh.
• 21:46
  brandon: Yeah at.
• 21:46
  Connor: That time like that's definitely i.
• 21:47
  zach: Think this is another point in the column of pontiac sponsoring this film in
• 21:53
  zach: that you know they They wanted their newest vehicle to be on display in the movie.
• 21:57
  zach: And it didn't matter that, you know, it was a little bit prohibitive and like
• 22:03
  zach: you said, made it look worse.
• 22:05
  zach: They just wanted the newest shit to be on screen.
• 22:07
  Connor: Which, by the way, it did work. It was.
• 22:09
  zach: Oh, yeah, that is.
• 22:10
  Connor: Yeah, the the the the Trans Am started to like outsell the Camaro,
• 22:16
  Connor: which is its counterpart car because they're very, very similar cars.
• 22:20
  brandon: It's they're both the same body style. they just have quite kind of different grills basically.
• 22:24
  Connor: Yeah so yeah uh i think that i read that the sales nearly doubled of the trans
• 22:29
  Connor: 700 so like oh damn jesus christ okay i i read nearly doubled in an article
• 22:36
  Connor: apparently that's uh an understatement yeah.
• 22:39
  Evan: And apparently the pontiac president was going to give burt reynolds like uh
• 22:43
  Evan: basically like a pontiac car like a for life and then he left the company and
• 22:48
  Evan: they wouldn't give it to him and so he had to.
• 22:49
  Connor: Buy it himself oh it's awesome i didn't know that but i i did hear that the
• 22:54
  Connor: offer was they were going to give him a new trans am every year that there was
• 22:58
  Connor: a trans am because of how we boost their sales to renege on that is hysterical
• 23:03
  Connor: that's fucking awesome okay like burt.
• 23:08
  brandon: Reynolds had a lot of cultural uh weight and like when this came out so like
• 23:12
  brandon: yeah they really stiffed him because like what what's what the cost of like
• 23:15
  brandon: 30 cars over the course of like 30 years or something He earned every fucking
• 23:20
  brandon: penny of that That's the amount of extra cars They sold in the first month Or
• 23:25
  brandon: the first week this movie came.
• 23:26
  Connor: Out And.
• 23:27
  zach: I know for a fact that Even to this day a 1977 Pontiac Trans Am Firebird With
• 23:33
  zach: the snowflake wheels And the bird on the hood Is like,
• 23:38
  zach: an unreachable amount of money to this day like a hundred thousand.
• 23:42
  brandon: Plus i feel like i see them but it's hard to tell when something's a clone or.
• 23:47
  Connor: Somebody through the graphic yeah people people put the graphics on there which
• 23:50
  Connor: is cool and fine and whatever i mean they all had the show yeah i don't.
• 23:55
  Evan: So this is just you're mentioning like how big of a
• 23:58
  Evan: star was burt reynolds got paid the budget for this movie was three point four
• 24:02
  Evan: four point three million and he got paid one million so it was a quarter of
• 24:06
  Evan: the budget was burt reynolds god damn and then sally field didn't get paid very
• 24:10
  Evan: much it was like very early in her career actually it was burt reynolds idea
• 24:13
  Evan: to have her in the movie and then of course he wanted to have jerry reed in the movie and he,
• 24:18
  Evan: then they also reached out to jackie gleason and he's like he read the script
• 24:22
  Evan: he's like sure i'll do this it's stupid but fine whatever everyone just was
• 24:25
  Evan: like i'll do it and then he just improvised everything but yeah it's uh it's
• 24:29
  Evan: kind of amazing it got made in some sense but here we are um.
• 24:32
  brandon: I mean from what i'm hearing it kind of sounds like if gator had not been what
• 24:35
  brandon: it was this movie would not have been made yeah.
• 24:38
  Evan: I've never seen that i.
• 24:39
  brandon: I oh dude oh fuck god i fucking love that movie so much um i just i want to
• 24:44
  brandon: comment like i i had never thought of it again i'm i'm what i'm i watched this
• 24:48
  brandon: movie almost for the first time this week because uh i got to watch it through
• 24:51
  brandon: the leftist lens and that was the first time i realized that jackie gleason's first act on
• 24:56
  brandon: screen in this movie is to start physically like violently attacking.
• 25:00
  zach: Yeah.
• 25:00
  brandon: And I, it's just like the four, those dudes stealing parts off the car and he
• 25:05
  brandon: just immediately starts wailing.
• 25:07
  Connor: Well, and I found it, you know, interesting. I actually did make a note of it.
• 25:11
  Connor: The first scene in which we see, um,
• 25:15
  Connor: sheriff buford t justice the first scene
• 25:18
  Connor: he appears in they play like this silly over
• 25:21
  Connor: the top bad guy music to like let you
• 25:24
  Connor: know this is the antagonist and he gets out
• 25:26
  Connor: of his car and he's acting like a cop on a power trip and it was just like right
• 25:31
  Connor: from the beginning they're like this is the bad guy and he's an idiot um and
• 25:35
  Connor: so then yeah and then the first thing he does is assault someone and then he
• 25:38
  Connor: like tells them all like okay well i gotta go i gotta go leave but you put your hands
• 25:44
  Connor: on this car and don't you fucking leave you can't go to the bathroom you can't
• 25:47
  Connor: do it just till another cop comes and then just leaves them like yeah i i.
• 25:54
  zach: Made a note of it in my notes but the way that cops are portrayed in this movie
• 25:59
  zach: is fucking awesome they are all so incompetent and just incapable of doing anything
• 26:05
  zach: right i love it i love every second of the police on screen in this movie it's
• 26:10
  zach: so fucking beautiful okay.
• 26:12
  brandon: So also in the in the context of movie you know the bandit is is a cultural
• 26:16
  brandon: phenomenon somehow yeah.
• 26:17
  zach: They don't really go over that they just kind of expect you to understand that
• 26:21
  zach: the bandit is this character that you're supposed to like know already i guess
• 26:25
  zach: i it felt like there was a prequel that i missed no.
• 26:29
  brandon: I i got the impression that like they're trying to establish that he is such
• 26:33
  brandon: like a folk hero that just every mom and pop on the side of the road knows who
• 26:37
  brandon: the bandit is in this world like in the world of.
• 26:40
  Connor: Yeah but.
• 26:41
  brandon: Like what i appreciate so much is that okay you
• 26:44
  brandon: accept that take the bandit is a folk hero in the context of this movie every
• 26:48
  brandon: human being alive in this movie is is is doing their best to mislead the police
• 26:55
  brandon: lie to them just block them at dude when when the two dudes take the funeral.
• 27:02
  Connor: Process that's.
• 27:04
  brandon: One of the just to keep the cops from catching the bandit because they're like
• 27:08
  brandon: no man fuck the police bandit you got this shit yeah yeah.
• 27:12
  Connor: I feel like so this might be a good time to do a
• 27:15
  Connor: quick like bare bones like of the plot and
• 27:18
  Connor: what's going on and why these people are doing this to some extent like um i
• 27:23
  Connor: don't know who should do that if uh i don't know how we usually do this uh evan
• 27:27
  Connor: but if we want to like kind of outline what the overall story is why they're
• 27:31
  Connor: on this drive yeah yeah uh And then like how it is essentially this is like a folk hero story.
• 27:37
  Evan: Yeah, exactly.
• 27:38
  Connor: Like what Brandon was saying.
• 27:39
  Evan: And it's funny as you're saying that, like, because he's a folk hero on like
• 27:42
  Evan: a CB radio. And I'm thinking like this would be, you know, now it'd be like on Reddit or something.
• 27:47
  bryant: Here it's like, you know.
• 27:48
  Evan: CB radio.
• 27:49
  Connor: Oh, that's so sad.
• 27:50
  Evan: But yeah. But yeah. So yeah, to your point, like, so basically,
• 27:53
  Evan: we just all of a sudden we learn that.
• 27:55
  Evan: Well, I guess they very briefly tell you that there's like this big thing about
• 27:59
  Evan: bootlegging Coors beer from Tarkana's Texaco,
• 28:04
  Evan: texarkana texarkana texas to atlanta or wherever
• 28:07
  Evan: you know because it's illegal and then they just introduce you
• 28:10
  Evan: to burt reynolds just chilling on a hammock just
• 28:13
  Evan: being like yeah what do you want and these two guys come over and you know the
• 28:18
  Evan: father and the son and it's just the classic suits they're wearing and apparently
• 28:22
  Evan: actually i'll just add is that the his laugh on the hammock was apparently like
• 28:26
  Evan: him actually having never seen their outfits before and it was like a true laugh,
• 28:31
  Evan: i just think that's perfect he's like that's the most honest laugh i've ever
• 28:35
  Evan: given in a movie but that's fucking.
• 28:37
  brandon: Hysterical i can hear that laugh.
• 28:39
  Evan: That was.
• 28:40
  brandon: A that was a very earnest laugh like.
• 28:43
  Evan: So they basically say they're going to give him eighty thousand dollars which
• 28:46
  Evan: is the equivalent of almost four hundred thousand dollars now to bring back
• 28:50
  Evan: 400 cases of cores in 48 hours which which is 900 miles. 28 hours?
• 28:56
  zach: 28 hours.
• 28:57
  brandon: 28, yeah.
• 28:58
  Evan: Oh, 28 hours. Yeah, you're right. 28 hours. And he has, it's 900 miles each way. So 1,800 miles.
• 29:06
  brandon: It works out to be something of like a maintained average speed of like 60 miles
• 29:09
  brandon: an hour. It's actually not. I did the math.
• 29:11
  zach: That's like my first note. I was like, how fast does he have to go? It's 64 miles an hour.
• 29:16
  zach: Like just over 64 miles an hour. It's really not that fast average.
• 29:20
  Evan: But they do a lot of up putzing around and like not driving for a lot of yeah apparently.
• 29:25
  brandon: And sally.
• 29:26
  zach: Field had enough time to get it on in one scene so they're really not.
• 29:31
  Connor: In that.
• 29:33
  zach: Much of a hurry it seems like yeah.
• 29:35
  Connor: They're just that good they're they're they're folk heroes they are just so
• 29:39
  Connor: far above and beyond that they can they can do it they can stop for meals they
• 29:44
  Connor: got time to sleep they can do it all 400.
• 29:46
  Evan: Horsepower power for uh.
• 29:47
  Connor: No
• 29:49
  brandon: No no 200 cubic inches.
• 29:52
  zach: Yeah yeah right okay.
• 29:53
  brandon: Well okay so since we're since we're starting off with that i think another
• 29:57
  brandon: worthwhile note is that uh you really like it is like a very working class versus
• 30:02
  brandon: the law movie the closest you get to anyone like wealthy or powerful in this
• 30:06
  brandon: movie is big and little enos,
• 30:09
  brandon: And holy fuck, are they the butt of the joke? They're the driving force in that
• 30:14
  brandon: they're the ones that come up to the bandit and say, we got this bet for you.
• 30:18
  brandon: But their whole thing is to fuck everyone over because they keep making this
• 30:21
  brandon: bet with people just to get them in trouble and fuck with them.
• 30:24
  brandon: And that's what they're doing here.
• 30:26
  brandon: And from that point on, they are the butt of the joke.
• 30:29
  brandon: This is such a working class fucking movie. this is about the worker like even
• 30:36
  brandon: across like racial lines for the 70s like everyone was working together because
• 30:40
  brandon: fuck the police and fuck these rich assholes.
• 30:43
  Connor: Yeah it was um i mean so like
• 30:46
  Connor: basically the whole point of the movie is finally this bet
• 30:49
  Connor: that they've been making to lots of truckers they've all gotten
• 30:52
  Connor: either arrested or or crashed out or whatever it
• 30:55
  Connor: was they finally offer this this deal to
• 30:58
  Connor: the bandit the big local legend right
• 31:01
  Connor: um and so that's pretty much what the movie is is
• 31:04
  Connor: they're doing this run in this time frame and that
• 31:07
  Connor: is the whole story that's going on here but one of
• 31:10
  Connor: the things that i noticed like the opening scene right after
• 31:13
  Connor: the credits which i also noted had like another unique
• 31:16
  Connor: song made just for the movie which i
• 31:19
  Connor: was like oh that's cool um and i had never noticed it
• 31:21
  Connor: before but so the first scene is actually another truck
• 31:25
  Connor: driver getting busted like that is our opening is like cops
• 31:28
  Connor: show up and confront this other truck driver and they're like
• 31:31
  Connor: all right let's see what's in the back sure enough it's
• 31:34
  Connor: the Coors beer and he's like well hey listen officer I was put up to this by
• 31:38
  Connor: these by these two rich guys offering me a bunch of money to do it and they
• 31:42
  Connor: and the cops go don't you when are you guys gonna learn those you know uh people
• 31:47
  Connor: offer the same deal to every trucker you know worth their salt or whatever and
• 31:52
  Connor: i found that really funny because i was like it.
• 31:54
  brandon: Really does paint the picture that the south is only about five or six hundred people.
• 31:57
  Connor: Which is all each other well yeah
• 32:01
  Connor: acting as if they all knew but the other thing that i found funny was
• 32:04
  Connor: like so wait you know who's doing this you know
• 32:06
  Connor: who's driving this and they are very much not in jail and i was like it really
• 32:11
  Connor: does set up that like the truckers are the ones facing the consequences but
• 32:16
  Connor: like these rich assholes are not and like it like it literally cuts from this
• 32:21
  Connor: scene of the of them telling him that they offer this to every truck driver,
• 32:26
  Connor: cuts to the next scene with showing the back of their cadillac convertible as
• 32:30
  Connor: they drive around with big you know they're just goofy motherfuckers and it's
• 32:35
  Connor: and it's just so clear that like they're setting up this idea that like yeah
• 32:39
  Connor: these rich assholes get to do this and there are no consequences for them everyone
• 32:43
  Connor: else faces consequences the.
• 32:44
  Evan: Cops get to confiscate all the beer so they don't want to arrest them right
• 32:47
  Evan: they want to keep keep the beer.
• 32:48
  Connor: Flowing but.
• 32:50
  Evan: Yeah like that's so yeah so as As you said, that's basically the rest of the
• 32:54
  Evan: movie is first, you know, you kind of Burt Reynolds has to, or the bandit has
• 32:59
  Evan: to get his partner, Jerry Reed, and they, you know, embark on their mission.
• 33:04
  Evan: And they're chased the entire time by Sheriff Buford T. Justice,
• 33:08
  Evan: played hilariously by Jackie Gleason.
• 33:11
  Evan: And then you have Sally Field who, within what, the first, I don't know,
• 33:15
  Evan: I don't know, they've already gotten the beer at this point,
• 33:17
  Evan: right? When they pick her up, they're on the way back.
• 33:19
  Connor: Yeah, so actually the first, so within the first 20 minutes,
• 33:22
  Connor: the Enos guys offer the deal to the bandit. He convinces his friend and fellow
• 33:29
  Connor: truck driver, the snowman, to join him on this.
• 33:32
  Connor: And basically he says, look, I'm going to drive the blocker car.
• 33:35
  Connor: So I'm going to drive out ahead of you and get the attention of the police so
• 33:39
  Connor: that they don't stop you in the truck behind. Okay.
• 33:41
  Connor: And so then his friend agrees, which I got to do a side tangent.
• 33:46
  Connor: I also found it very weird and kind of goofy that like the band,
• 33:49
  Connor: it's like, all right, well, if I'm going to take this deal from y'all,
• 33:52
  Connor: I'm going to need money for a car.
• 33:54
  Connor: And they just hand him the money for her car. And they're counting it out.
• 33:57
  Connor: And he's like, I need a speedy car.
• 33:59
  Connor: And they give him more money and goes speedier than that. And they give him
• 34:02
  Connor: more money, which is just comedy gold.
• 34:06
  Connor: But also I was like, they're just handing you the money to do this.
• 34:08
  Connor: Like, yeah, great. I'd like to get a Lamborghini.
• 34:11
  brandon: In my head the whole time i'm just like dude fuck the eighty thousand dollars
• 34:16
  brandon: you have to work for that they're giving you like probably like five or ten
• 34:20
  brandon: grand up front dude take the money and run like.
• 34:23
  bryant: They're paying what like ten dollars per beer at this point or something like that in.
• 34:27
  Connor: I mean a crazy amount it's just this is rich guys with nothing better to do
• 34:31
  Connor: and they like i think they do a good job setting up that like they don't actually
• 34:35
  Connor: give a shit about the beer they just want to fuck with people and this is just.
• 34:38
  brandon: They're like why do you want the beer and they're like oh we're having a party it's.
• 34:43
  bryant: And it's kind of like uh that movie rat race uh in that regard it's just rich
• 34:47
  bryant: people fucking with everyday people as like a for fun.
• 34:51
  brandon: Yeah yeah.
• 34:51
  zach: Just as entertainment and to put the.
• 34:53
  brandon: I mean it's established that no one has accomplished this yet so it is a hundred
• 34:56
  brandon: percent they are just keep fucking people over yeah.
• 34:58
  Evan: They also allude that burt ranalds his friend cletus or the snowman he had you
• 35:03
  Evan: know he had gone to prison it didn't i I don't think they say why,
• 35:07
  Evan: because of antics that he had pulled maybe some other kind of similar job.
• 35:11
  Evan: And his wife's like, no, you don't do this. And he's like, well,
• 35:15
  Evan: $40,000, presumably if they're going to split it, is a life-changing amount of money.
• 35:20
  Evan: So they're just, again, fucking with these people for money that will change
• 35:24
  Evan: their lives, but means nothing to them.
• 35:25
  Connor: Yeah, they carry this around in their pocket.
• 35:28
  Evan: Yeah, he just got stacks of bills.
• 35:29
  Connor: I did find one other thing I just wanted to make note specifically when they
• 35:35
  Connor: first approached the bandit with this offer and he lets out that very you know,
• 35:40
  Connor: awesome laugh as soon as he sees them but i love
• 35:43
  Connor: what he did say after that because i actually i put it in my
• 35:46
  Connor: notes i was like this is such a good fucking line his first instinct
• 35:49
  Connor: is to laugh in their faces and then insult them by
• 35:52
  Connor: saying oh i love your suits it must be a bitch getting a size 68 extra fat and
• 36:00
  Connor: a 12 dwarf i was like god damn if that is not a working class hero i don't know
• 36:07
  Connor: what is just that alone if.
• 36:10
  Evan: Paul williams said that like made his career actually like being in this even
• 36:14
  Evan: though he was the butt of the joke he like he like he kind of just loves it and got lots of.
• 36:17
  Connor: Work because.
• 36:18
  Evan: Of it so fuck it yeah there there's just i mean
• 36:21
  Evan: just generally speaking as you said that there's tons and tons and tons of just
• 36:25
  Evan: really good jokes and it kind of blows my mind that many of them were just ad-libbed
• 36:29
  Evan: when they're in the moment like they're just it's really really funny and lots
• 36:34
  Evan: of like you know kind of like double entendres and you know hidden meaning where
• 36:38
  Evan: they you know say one word when they meet another it's just.
• 36:40
  Connor: Like everything over the cb radios was in you oh yeah everything there in double
• 36:46
  Connor: entendres the whole bit like i loved every interaction on the cb radios um but
• 36:51
  Connor: yeah actually i remember um because i i kind of did a number of side tangents
• 36:55
  Connor: there but i was getting to the point where i was trying to set up the idea
• 36:58
  Connor: that within the first 20 minutes of the movie they
• 37:01
  Connor: did all of this shit got this all together and they
• 37:04
  Connor: had already gotten to texas to pick up the beer within
• 37:07
  Connor: 20 minutes and then like a couple minutes later so
• 37:10
  Connor: like basically they had no problems going out none whatsoever there was one
• 37:15
  Connor: cop that the bandit got the attention of and lost very easily um and then also
• 37:20
  Connor: notably breaks the fourth wall as he's like he like looks at the camera and
• 37:25
  Connor: just like kind of gives a little smile and then like takes it takes off i.
• 37:29
  brandon: Really appreciated that because at no other point in the movie does anything like that happen.
• 37:33
  Connor: No the only fourth one the.
• 37:35
  Evan: Funny thing that burt reynolds said he's like oh like are you sure you want
• 37:38
  Evan: me to do that and he says to need him the director he's like oh you know that's
• 37:42
  Evan: breaking the fourth wall and apparently i'll need him with like completely deadpan goes what's that.
• 37:46
  Connor: That's so awesome was this first.
• 37:52
  bryant: His first uh time time directing a movie because he was a stuntman mostly right um.
• 37:56
  brandon: Yeah that makes sense i didn't.
• 37:59
  bryant: Realize i think it was.
• 38:00
  Evan: His yeah i think so.
• 38:01
  bryant: He actually did the stunt of uh jumping the car over the bridge i think yep yeah.
• 38:05
  Connor: Oh that's very cool that is cool that's a cool director right there oh no don't
• 38:10
  Connor: worry i got the i got the car jump yeah that's all me actually so.
• 38:14
  Evan: He was the.
• 38:14
  Connor: Second director.
• 38:15
  Evan: On gator i guess that's how he and
• 38:17
  Evan: burt reynolds became friends but that's not like not the main director but yeah
• 38:20
  Evan: so this is his first uh his first shot apparently he like didn't really know
• 38:23
  Evan: like i couldn't find much about the technical but apparently it was just kind
• 38:27
  Evan: of like makeshift kind of nonsense on the set which makes sense given the given
• 38:31
  Evan: it but yeah the all the lines are really good i had a bunch of them written down i can't find so.
• 38:36
  bryant: One of my favorite is uh you ought to quit smoking it's bad for your health
• 38:39
  bryant: but I enjoy it so much. Yeah.
• 38:42
  zach: And then she like visibly as she's smoking.
• 38:45
  brandon: Like the first, I just started. My favorite joke was probably when,
• 38:50
  brandon: when Sally Fields looks over at the speedo and says, are we really going 110,
• 38:56
  brandon: but doesn't seem to understand that that's kilometers.
• 38:59
  bryant: Was it? Yeah.
• 39:01
  brandon: Like I paused it and rewound because I was like, wait a second.
• 39:04
  brandon: What? And when you look at it, yeah, they're going 110 kilometers.
• 39:07
  bryant: Like 65 miles an hour.
• 39:10
  Connor: They're going slow.
• 39:10
  brandon: Well they only.
• 39:12
  Evan: Have to go 64 so that they're good yeah.
• 39:14
  brandon: Okay so the the if if anything that i will give them credit for the challenge
• 39:17
  brandon: of this is sure an average maintained speed of around 65 for 28 hours but how
• 39:23
  brandon: the fuck long does it take to go pick up his buddy snowman to go buy a car that's
• 39:27
  brandon: like an entire afternoon right there and like i don't know when they start the.
• 39:31
  Connor: Clock exactly but i i presume they buy the car before the clock starts i hope.
• 39:36
  brandon: Well i was i I was assuming that the clock started at the truck rodeo.
• 39:40
  Evan: Yeah.
• 39:41
  Connor: Like, I don't, I don't think that's possible. Like, I literally actually do
• 39:45
  Connor: not think that even if he got that shit altogether in two hours,
• 39:48
  Connor: they were running an hour ahead of schedule when they hit Texarkana.
• 39:52
  Connor: Or I think, I think after they loaded the beer, they were a half an hour ahead
• 39:56
  Connor: of schedule, but they were ahead of schedule when they hit Texarkana.
• 39:59
  bryant: Yeah. Cause the store hadn't opened yet. They, they broke in and stole the beer.
• 40:04
  Connor: They broke into the.
• 40:05
  brandon: Stole the beer.
• 40:06
  Connor: And left a note.
• 40:08
  zach: Just like.
• 40:08
  Connor: Send the bill to.
• 40:09
  zach: Another another big line in the movie is that they did not leave the note jerry
• 40:14
  zach: reed's character is writing the note can't figure out how to spell the guy's
• 40:18
  zach: name it just goes oh shit i gotta go and throws the notepad and just leaves i.
• 40:26
  Evan: Just like that he he like gets in the forklift and he just kind of dipping around
• 40:30
  Evan: and And just crushes a bunch of the.
• 40:32
  zach: Beer. Another one of my favorite lines. When Jerry Reed's character says.
• 40:37
  zach: You can't drive a forklift. And he says I can drive any forking thing around.
• 40:42
  bryant: Just like.
• 40:43
  Evan: So many of those great one liners.
• 40:45
  zach: In this movie.
• 40:46
  brandon: That is 100% a joke I would make.
• 40:49
  zach: That felt like a Brandon joke.
• 40:51
  zach: for sure well.
• 40:53
  Evan: This i assume this ruby because at the time there was no pg-13 it was just a
• 40:57
  Evan: pg movie you know just a you know do that or are and it's not i mean i guess
• 41:02
  Evan: you could say it's a kid's movie you could watch this for you know as a kid
• 41:04
  Evan: and probably not get most of the jokes right because they've kind of hidden
• 41:08
  Evan: them in there with yeah you know the the innuendo and all that i'm.
• 41:12
  Connor: I'm always appreciative of like kids movies in general because i think those are some of the
• 41:17
  Connor: best writers because they always disney movies do
• 41:20
  Connor: this a lot of them do this where it's like they hide the humor really well that
• 41:24
  Connor: kids will not get it you'll laugh at the same time but the parents and the kids
• 41:28
  Connor: laugh for different reasons um i always appreciate that kind of writing i think
• 41:33
  Connor: that's a real skill and this movie i think definitely has oh yeah as.
• 41:37
  zach: A complete side tangent i just watched uh shrek one
• 41:41
  zach: two and three the other day and it has
• 41:44
  zach: tons of that in it it's if you haven't
• 41:47
  zach: watched it in a while go back and watch the first trek movie it's it's full
• 41:51
  zach: of just adult humor that is masterfully written in to be subtle and and and
• 42:00
  zach: just above the head of the the target audience.
• 42:04
  Connor: It's so great i love that i i really i do love that shit.
• 42:09
  Evan: Yeah the first i haven't actually seen the third one i've watched the first
• 42:12
  Evan: one not that long ago maybe six months ago and i remember thinking damn this
• 42:16
  Evan: movie i mean i had seen it a long time and it is uh so many good jokes and so
• 42:20
  Evan: many things that are hidden in there that are yeah solid i.
• 42:23
  zach: Uh another complete side tangent but i got a lecture
• 42:26
  zach: from my very christian mother about shrek after seeing
• 42:28
  zach: it in the theater with her because there's one scene where
• 42:32
  zach: they roll a stone away from a tomb to uh allow princess fiona somewhere to sleep
• 42:38
  zach: and uh i was told that that was making a mockery of jesus tomb so yeah you have
• 42:44
  zach: that to look forward to i mean that's kind of funny if you go ahead and watch it now.
• 42:48
  Evan: Well i mean we i guess we i.
• 42:54
  brandon: Feel like that's giving strength i.
• 42:55
  Evan: Mean you talked about how the how like the cops in this movie are portrayed
• 43:01
  Evan: poorly i think we should talk about the i mean you also can say some of your
• 43:05
  Evan: favorite lines of like the Beaufort T justice.
• 43:08
  Evan: I mean, it's just his entire shtick is just,
• 43:12
  Evan: hysterical the entire time but i don't know about i don't have well i'll have
• 43:16
  Evan: to think about my favorite line but one of my favorite gags in the entire movie
• 43:19
  Evan: is his son once the car's roof gets pulled off and he has to hold his hat every
• 43:24
  Evan: time you're driving around it's just i i couldn't every time they showed that
• 43:28
  Evan: on screen i'm just like what the this is and he keeps doing it.
• 43:31
  bryant: When they're just walking around yeah he keeps.
• 43:32
  Evan: His hand on his.
• 43:33
  zach: Hat that was so funny.
• 43:35
  Evan: I think one of my favorite And how he says, some bitch.
• 43:38
  zach: Some bitch, yeah. That's great. No, my favorite Buford T.
• 43:43
  zach: Justice line is when he berates the cop who stops him for using foul language.
• 43:49
  zach: And then as he's driving away, you hear a truck horn blare and you just see
• 43:55
  zach: him mouth the words, and fuck off. And then he drives away.
• 44:01
  Connor: I think one of the other excellent points
• 44:05
  Connor: and sort of major plot point when they pick
• 44:08
  Connor: up uh sally field's character uh carrie
• 44:11
  Connor: she is a she's wearing a wedding dress and
• 44:14
  Connor: she's hitchhiking the bandit picks her up she's fleeing her wedding now she
• 44:19
  Connor: is to supposed to be marrying sheriff buford t justice's idiot son who is a
• 44:24
  Connor: fucking dimwit the whole movie um and like he's in the car with uh with the
• 44:30
  Connor: sheriff the whole time and And he is dumb as a box of rocks.
• 44:34
  Connor: But one of the things I love is as like they're driving in pursuit and,
• 44:39
  Connor: you know, Sheriff Justice over here is like ranting and raving in the car.
• 44:44
  Connor: And she's like, she disrespected my authority.
• 44:48
  Connor: And that's nothing but good old fashioned communism.
• 44:52
  zach: Oh, I love that.
• 44:53
  brandon: Too.
• 44:53
  Connor: And I actually one of our outros that we use for our show does have that line, actually.
• 45:00
  Connor: um but it's funny he's like ranting and
• 45:03
  Connor: raving about how how he feels personally slighted by what she did while his
• 45:09
  Connor: son who she left at the altar is in the car with him and he doesn't give a fuck
• 45:14
  Connor: about what he thinks like he's like yeah and he's like shut up so like his general vibe is too.
• 45:20
  brandon: Stupid to understand what has happened in his life he's.
• 45:24
  zach: A total hottie.
• 45:25
  Connor: He's a he's a classic himbo.
• 45:28
  zach: Hot and dumb as hell.
• 45:34
  Connor: Yeah so yeah it was just it was very funny that the cop is bitching and moaning
• 45:38
  Connor: about how this affects him instead of his son which was just absolutely priceless it.
• 45:45
  brandon: Really never even pays lip service to the fact that his son.
• 45:47
  Connor: Might have some feelings about this,
• 45:51
  Connor: is it beauty justice.
• 45:53
  Evan: Who has the line where he says like uh or maybe this does the son say one of
• 45:57
  Evan: them says like this is germane to the situation he says the germans have nothing yeah yeah.
• 46:02
  Connor: So um.
• 46:03
  zach: Black sheriff that they meet oh right right.
• 46:06
  Connor: Who who i want to add is the only competent
• 46:10
  Connor: police officer in this film and i found that i was like okay this feels like
• 46:15
  Connor: a very deliberate choice like 1977 not a great time in this country but like
• 46:21
  Connor: the one competent police officer that they portray in this film is the black
• 46:25
  Connor: sheriff and he like he like says like oh oh, this isn't germane to the situation.
• 46:29
  Connor: And this idiot has no idea what that even fucking means.
• 46:33
  Connor: It's, but like, he's, he thinks he's better than the black sheriff.
• 46:38
  brandon: Since we're having that conversation, you cannot skip the interaction between the black sheriff.
• 46:43
  zach: Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to say.
• 46:46
  brandon: He is horrified. Like you, this is where it was being probably a PG movie really
• 46:51
  brandon: shines because again, he can't use the hard R when he meets the black sheriff.
• 46:55
  brandon: So he's got to be like, oh, you know, you're not what I expected.
• 46:58
  brandon: And, you know, the subtext is really fucking obvious and that he's like,
• 47:01
  brandon: holy fuck, you're black.
• 47:03
  Connor: Well, as he's walking away, like so he actually meets him as because the black
• 47:08
  Connor: sheriff's like, yo, dude, you're like way out of your jurisdiction.
• 47:10
  Connor: Like, you should fucking leave. Like, please stop what you're doing.
• 47:14
  Connor: And Beaufort T. Justice, of course, doesn't.
• 47:17
  Connor: But the bandit leads them on a chase, and this is where they do the big bridge
• 47:23
  Connor: jump because they got cornered on this dirt road and they had nowhere to go.
• 47:27
  Connor: So they jumped the bridge. And when the police tried to do it, also notably,
• 47:32
  Connor: the car that the black sheriff was in was being driven by a white sheriff's
• 47:37
  Connor: deputy who was the mayor's son and notably not as competent.
• 47:42
  Connor: So like you have this like fairly competent black sheriff and he's like paired
• 47:48
  Connor: up with this, the mayor's son who's driving the car.
• 47:51
  brandon: Anybody in this movie made Buford Justice's son look smart. It was that dude.
• 47:56
  brandon: What if like there is no better word than yokel for that.
• 48:00
  zach: Just to drive Buford T. Justice's racism home after they have this interaction
• 48:05
  zach: with the black sheriff, he turns around and goes, what has the world come to?
• 48:09
  bryant: Yeah, exactly.
• 48:11
  Connor: Exactly. That's, that's the line. That's the important line there is it was
• 48:14
  Connor: like, and it's so clear what he's talking about, but like he first even sees
• 48:18
  Connor: him, which basically they crashed.
• 48:20
  Connor: They didn't make it over the bridge when they tried to jump it.
• 48:23
  Connor: They, so they crashed and the, um, black sheriff's getting out of the vehicle.
• 48:28
  Connor: And that's where Buford T justice is standing on the bridge.
• 48:32
  Connor: And, you know, it says something, he calls him boy first, which of course,
• 48:35
  Connor: very, very noticeable there.
• 48:38
  Connor: And he's like, where's, you know sheriff whatever and he's like I'm the sheriff
• 48:42
  Connor: and he almost like doesn't believe it at first and he says something like oh
• 48:45
  Connor: I thought you'd be taller or something and that's when he turns around and says
• 48:49
  Connor: what is the world coming to and you're like,
• 48:51
  Connor: god damn like you know buford t justice is literally his character is just a
• 48:57
  Connor: parody of a conservative asshole like that's his.
• 49:01
  brandon: Whole shtick it really does make you wonder what the director was doing because
• 49:04
  brandon: those were all such intentional decisions yeah to make the the one black sheriff
• 49:09
  brandon: the only competent person in law enforcement in this movie buford t justice is
• 49:15
  brandon: just like not only like they went as
• 49:18
  brandon: hard as they could to make him racist under a pg
• 49:21
  brandon: uh rating as they could and
• 49:24
  brandon: just so fucking dumb and yeah the
• 49:28
  brandon: one thing i was a little bit wasn't sure what how to
• 49:31
  brandon: feel about was yeah he shows up and calls that sheriff boy
• 49:34
  brandon: but he calls everyone in the movie boy he is just condescending to everyone
• 49:38
  brandon: he speaks to he is um and i'm wondering if they were doing that to make it seem
• 49:42
  brandon: less obvious that he was being racist towards the sheriff or if that's i don't
• 49:48
  brandon: i really don't know because i noticed that immediately but then personally he says that to everyone he.
• 49:53
  Connor: Does and that's it's because he's a condescending asshole but it's because like
• 49:57
  Connor: the next where he turns around and goes what is the world coming to it is so
• 50:00
  Connor: clear that he is just like unabashedly racist um so like it's reasonable to just kind
• 50:07
  Connor: of conclude that to some extent he was just being racist in that instance.
• 50:11
  Connor: But yes, he also does call everyone boy.
• 50:13
  bryant: Um, by the way, have you guys, have you guys seen, uh, the James Bond movie live and let die?
• 50:20
  brandon: Is that the one that has, uh, Jackie Gleason?
• 50:22
  bryant: Maybe he's in it, but there's a different, um, like Southern,
• 50:27
  bryant: uh, racist, uh, sheriff in that one, uh, sheriff JW pepper.
• 50:31
  bryant: Um, and there's also a car jumping across, uh, a river,
• 50:36
  bryant: um but it's uh i think it's set in louisiana and there's also people using cb
• 50:40
  bryant: radios to coordinate um catching james bond uh i wonder how like that was in
• 50:46
  bryant: 1973 i wonder how much that influenced this movie you know oh.
• 50:50
  brandon: You know in in my uh in my head i always i haven't seen that movie in so long
• 50:55
  brandon: i just assumed that that was the same character but i i actually thought that
• 50:59
  brandon: was jackie gleason that's yeah i don't remember the.
• 51:01
  bryant: Actor's name but it was a different guy he might have been an english guy just
• 51:05
  bryant: putting on an accent now i think about it.
• 51:07
  zach: I would just like.
• 51:08
  Evan: To say none of the things they said they never mentioned that i wonder if it's
• 51:11
  Evan: just it got like seeped into his influence or something yeah.
• 51:14
  Connor: Yeah there's some.
• 51:16
  brandon: Similarities james was that guy yeah no um it definitely i actually always assumed
• 51:20
  brandon: that the two were connected because the behavior is so like similar and just
• 51:25
  brandon: such buffoons either way good on this director for
• 51:30
  brandon: painting the police as racist assholes and like lifting up a working class hero
• 51:36
  brandon: to to beat them that rules yeah.
• 51:38
  Connor: This movie like obviously it wasn't like it's not perfect and progressive in
• 51:44
  Connor: every fashion but like there are elements of it that actually are fairly progressive
• 51:49
  Connor: especially for the time period when you're like damn all right not wrong here.
• 51:54
  brandon: Even the little old lady fucking knows that the bandit rules and the police man yeah well.
• 51:59
  Evan: You mentioned before the the funeral procession i mean that i think is one of
• 52:02
  Evan: the the best of all of the like blocking the cops to go through and they know
• 52:07
  Evan: what they're doing they they know uh they'd rather see the cops anyone get away
• 52:11
  Evan: as long as the cops fail like fuck them.
• 52:14
  brandon: Also a mad respect to them having a cb radio in the house yeah.
• 52:18
  Connor: Another i also love that everybody like everybody would get on to the cb radio
• 52:24
  Connor: so So like there's this element of like a collective action where like people
• 52:30
  Connor: are listening in on the CB radios, but like when they participate,
• 52:33
  Connor: they all come in. Nobody's awkward. Everyone's like,
• 52:36
  Connor: they come up with a name for themselves and they're like all in it
• 52:39
  Connor: to help the bandit like they are a part of this history everyone's
• 52:43
  Connor: all working together like even the the funeral guys he picks
• 52:46
  Connor: up the cb radio and like you see he like almost thinks for a second he goes this is
• 52:49
  Connor: grave digger it was just like it's this
• 52:52
  Connor: whole thing that like everybody's in on it everybody's
• 52:55
  Connor: got a name everybody's playing along um and it
• 52:59
  Connor: was really cool that just like how ubiquitous uh
• 53:03
  Connor: everything was like everyone knew everyone knew
• 53:06
  Connor: who they were and everyone was there to help old ladies other truck drivers
• 53:10
  Connor: there's an uh a point which we'll probably talk about later where there's a
• 53:13
  Connor: sex worker who contacts them over the cb radio let's letting them know she's
• 53:18
  Connor: going to take care of some of the police in the way which becomes very relevant
• 53:23
  Connor: a little bit later yeah yeah.
• 53:24
  Evan: I love that's that's just so yeah you we can talk about that now but that scene
• 53:28
  Evan: is so funny because then they sheriff the buford justice comes by and is like
• 53:33
  Evan: thinks he's arresting the bandit and it turns out it's actually just a different
• 53:37
  Evan: cop like this like the the sheriff or the whatever of that town.
• 53:40
  Connor: Yeah so well so the bandits like on the radio is like oh yeah i'll come by you
• 53:44
  Connor: know i'll have to come by and thank you sometimes she's like why don't you come
• 53:46
  Connor: in person he's like yeah okay he doesn't show up but the fucking sheriff's like
• 53:51
  Connor: oh i got him i'm gonna go well then he goes and he pulls this guy out and he
• 53:55
  Connor: goes yeah and he's telling this other cop i got him this is the bandit. And he's like, Sir...
• 54:00
  Connor: that's my captain and it's it's just yet another fucking cop who's like fucking
• 54:06
  Connor: soliciting you know sex workers on the job and he's the police captain it's
• 54:12
  Connor: just one more instance of like yeah and i think uh you per t justice.
• 54:16
  zach: Says something along the lines of if you're gonna be in a joint like this at
• 54:21
  zach: least wear a badge on your underwear or something,
• 54:26
  zach: he knows you're a cop.
• 54:28
  Connor: And he doesn't arrest you well yeah and of course it's it's noticeable too that
• 54:32
  Connor: like the first thing that he fucking does as soon as he learns he's a cop he's
• 54:36
  Connor: like all right i'm like it's just like wait excuse me wait a second what we're done i mean.
• 54:44
  Evan: At least he doesn't arrest the women i guess that's the only uh.
• 54:47
  Connor: Well yeah at least there's that he was in a rush, though.
• 54:50
  Evan: Yeah, that's true.
• 54:51
  brandon: The more we talk about it, I cannot believe the way this movie uplifts workers,
• 54:56
  brandon: criminals, sex... This movie is antithetical to everything modern conservatives
• 55:02
  brandon: would ever believe in and would probably love this movie.
• 55:06
  Connor: No, they do. It's so funny because my dad loves this movie and I'm like,
• 55:11
  Connor: my dude, did you watch this movie?
• 55:13
  Connor: It's making fun of you. I never understand that because I'm like,
• 55:16
  Connor: dude, a lot of conservative people will watch movies and be like, This is great.
• 55:19
  Connor: And I'm like, it's antithetical to everything you believe.
• 55:22
  Connor: And you're a caricature in the film and they're making fun of you.
• 55:26
  Evan: Or they're thinking, yeah, or they're thinking it's like the opposite.
• 55:28
  Evan: Like it's making fun of liberals. Yeah.
• 55:32
  Connor: Who is that politician?
• 55:35
  bryant: No comprehension.
• 55:36
  zach: Like name a better duo.
• 55:38
  bryant: Yeah. Who is that guy that was a big fan of Rage Against the Machine? Scott something.
• 55:45
  brandon: Oh, the guy who told them to keep politics out of the. something like that oh man.
• 55:50
  Evan: Or when start with like there's uh i can't think of the conservative woman's
• 55:55
  Evan: name on uh forget her name she was talking about like starship troopers on twitter
• 55:59
  Evan: being like oh this movie is pro-fascism it's like no yeah no so many people didn't.
• 56:04
  Connor: Understand that movie.
• 56:05
  zach: Yeah or the the iconic tweet of uh star wars isn't about vietnam not unless the u.s.
• 56:12
  Evan: Is the empire higher oh yeah
• 56:23
  Evan: i mean it's almost uh amazing i don't know all these things make it it's almost
• 56:27
  Evan: surprising the studio like this is a universal studio movie and they didn't
• 56:33
  Evan: seem to have much issue with the movie going through unless they just figured
• 56:36
  Evan: it's burt reynolds he's like in a
• 56:38
  Evan: pretty you know he's a popular person he's starring in it so we'll just let
• 56:42
  Evan: it go i mean i don't know it seems almost shocking i mean i think.
• 56:45
  bryant: This is when studios were more um willing to risk a little bit on something
• 56:51
  bryant: you know a little bit more creative a little bit out of the norm,
• 56:55
  bryant: you know whereas nowadays nowadays they're just you know making marvel sequels or whatever um i.
• 57:01
  Connor: Mean yeah that was the era that like mel brooks was big right like i feel like
• 57:07
  Connor: so if that can get through like this is there's a lot of humor that is i would
• 57:11
  Connor: say similar to like a mel brooks kind of film yeah.
• 57:15
  bryant: I mean and it.
• 57:15
  Evan: Wasn't a huge budget.
• 57:16
  bryant: Or anything it was what like.
• 57:17
  Evan: No what you said three four million yeah four million yeah that actually reminds
• 57:22
  Evan: me of a fact i learned recently about because you mentioned Mel Brooks,
• 57:24
  Evan: is when they're making Blazing Saddles.
• 57:27
  Evan: Apparently the studio told Mel Brooks to make the movie less racist towards
• 57:31
  Evan: white people because they're being too mean.
• 57:36
  Connor: Jesus Christ.
• 57:38
  brandon: You know, they could never remake Blazing Saddles today.
• 57:41
  zach: Because Gene Wilder's dead?
• 57:44
  Evan: I don't know.
• 57:45
  brandon: I saw some tweet where somebody was like, they could never redo that today because
• 57:49
  brandon: they completely missed the point.
• 57:51
  Evan: Yeah.
• 57:51
  brandon: I was another one of those. Hey, Rage Against the Machine, keep politics out of your music.
• 57:57
  Connor: Yeah.
• 57:57
  Evan: Oh, yeah. Well, I guess another person we haven't talked about is Sally Field.
• 58:03
  Evan: You mentioned before how she
• 58:04
  Evan: comes into the picture. She's running away from her wedding from a man.
• 58:08
  Evan: I think she had said she had been with him for five days or something,
• 58:11
  Evan: and they decided to get married.
• 58:13
  Evan: And then she's also ticking off and getting dressed under her wedding dress
• 58:17
  Evan: inside the moving vehicle, which is also pretty badass.
• 58:19
  Evan: and and burt reynolds has the audacity to be like you have big calves yeah he's
• 58:26
  Evan: like what are you talking about i don't maybe that's just been like a joke because
• 58:28
  Evan: he wanted her in the movie because he said that she was beautiful when the studio's
• 58:32
  Evan: like oh she's not really sexy and he's like no she's sexy so apparently how
• 58:36
  Evan: she got you know cast well.
• 58:37
  bryant: And then they ended up dating i think after this.
• 58:39
  Evan: Married actually yeah i think i don't know how long they got married for let's see four years oh.
• 58:44
  Connor: Wow okay that's that's an eternity in celebrity marriages so.
• 58:48
  Evan: 1976 to 1980 i.
• 58:50
  brandon: Did i had forgotten about that but that tracks because they did have really
• 58:53
  brandon: good on like kind of weird but good on.
• 58:56
  zach: Yeah i was gonna say it was really odd that she was so into the bandit like
• 59:01
  zach: it didn't really seem there was like a lot of pretense for it she was just like i.
• 59:05
  Connor: Mean that's kind of her.
• 59:06
  zach: Character though like.
• 59:07
  Connor: Because she did mention it like she's like oh i had this like crazy you know relationship.
• 59:12
  Connor: I really thought he was the one. We were together for eight and a half days.
• 59:15
  Connor: So like it becomes clear like she has a habit of like falling hard and fast
• 59:20
  Connor: and I can't help but feel like thank God she didn't marry this dimwit fucking
• 59:25
  Connor: person she was gonna marry because you're like God damn dude.
• 59:29
  Connor: I don't know what you got in five days that convinced you that he's alright
• 59:32
  Connor: but like you didn't talk to him. So,
• 59:36
  Connor: That's all I can say there.
• 59:37
  Evan: Maybe she met Buford T. Justin and she's like, no, this guy can't be my father-in-law.
• 59:42
  Connor: Can you imagine?
• 59:43
  Evan: This fucking asshole. She doesn't seem to like cops.
• 59:47
  Evan: She's not very obvious about it, I guess, but she's clearly not against the
• 59:51
  Evan: fact that they're just literally just driving away from cops and evading them the entire movie.
• 59:56
  brandon: I mean, the subtext of this movie is literally nobody likes police.
• 59:59
  zach: At one point, she does flip off the cops when they're trying to get a blockade.
• 1:00:04
  Evan: That's true.
• 1:00:04
  zach: True like removed from the road they do a big slide in the middle of the highway
• 1:00:09
  zach: and stop and she just leans out the window and flips off the cops and they turn around and peel out.
• 1:00:14
  Connor: Yeah well so that was the one time when they finally when a cop pulled over
• 1:00:18
  Connor: the truck and was gonna write you know it's gonna take him to jail that's right
• 1:00:21
  Connor: that's when and so like all it took for them to get the cops away from the truck
• 1:00:26
  Connor: was just pulling up giving them the finger and then he's like oh it gets all
• 1:00:29
  Connor: mad and then chases after him and it's like wow excellent y'all are so yeah
• 1:00:33
  Connor: they They have the attention.
• 1:00:34
  bryant: Span of a goldfish or something.
• 1:00:36
  zach: And the ego is the other thing I liked about, I mean, a traffic stop from happening
• 1:00:43
  zach: was getting flipped off.
• 1:00:44
  zach: Like they obviously don't care that much.
• 1:00:47
  bryant: Yeah.
• 1:00:48
  zach: Like, you know, enacting the law, they're just hurt their feelings.
• 1:00:53
  zach: And, and they're like, well, that, that can't slide.
• 1:00:56
  zach: I can't be flipped off by some lady in a car. So I'm going to chase after them.
• 1:01:02
  Connor: One of the other things I liked about, uh her character is
• 1:01:05
  Connor: like early on she's like doing all
• 1:01:08
  Connor: this stuff she's she's very careless like taking off
• 1:01:11
  Connor: her wedding dress in the car which is a whole production at
• 1:01:14
  Connor: one point she's driving and decides like she's gonna switch seats while they're
• 1:01:17
  Connor: driving with the bandit like she's very unsafe in these
• 1:01:20
  Connor: ways but like one of the things she does is like she gets scared she's
• 1:01:23
  Connor: like oh my god you're driving so fast and recklessly she like
• 1:01:27
  Connor: gets out of her seat and like starts to
• 1:01:30
  Connor: like head towards the back of the car not wearing a
• 1:01:32
  Connor: seat belt and i'm like if you're scared of
• 1:01:35
  Connor: what's happening you should be wearing a seat belt and she's like out of her
• 1:01:38
  Connor: seat and like trying to go to the bed and you're like that's that's the worst
• 1:01:41
  Connor: thing you could be doing right now um so i found that to be actually kind of
• 1:01:46
  Connor: extra funny there is that she was like just freaking out and not doing anything safe remotely i.
• 1:01:53
  Evan: Don't that's when she has her joke to like the 10 100 and she was a 10 to...
• 1:01:56
  bryant: Real terms, actually.
• 1:01:58
  Evan: Are they? Yeah. Oh, perfect. I was going to say, maybe... I think that this...
• 1:02:04
  bryant: There was a big...
• 1:02:07
  bryant: thing in the 70s around cb radios and truckers like that was sort of a cultural
• 1:02:10
  bryant: phenomenon that this sort of i don't know tapped into i guess like there's that
• 1:02:15
  bryant: movie convoy also and i'm sure there's other ones um but like i wonder how realistic
• 1:02:21
  bryant: it was that just everyone had a cb radio in their car like in this movie.
• 1:02:25
  brandon: A friend of mine's dad installed a cb radio in their
• 1:02:28
  brandon: house with a 30 foot antenna yeah it was like i can't say how prolific it was
• 1:02:33
  brandon: but like it was not uncommon for uh every every fucking custom van in the 70s
• 1:02:38
  brandon: and 80s had a cb in it it was on it was fairly common in cars yeah like this
• 1:02:43
  brandon: is probably like dramatizing it but dude they were kind of everywhere can.
• 1:02:47
  Connor: You i feel like that was like the social media of the time yeah like in a way
• 1:02:52
  Connor: right like you could connect with random people within range and a lot of truckers
• 1:02:56
  Connor: used them so like yeah i'm sure that was kind of a big thing.
• 1:02:59
  brandon: Yeah you would let people know if you know cops hiding somewhere you get past
• 1:03:03
  brandon: them you don't get pulled over you hop on the cb and let people know what mile
• 1:03:06
  brandon: marker the police are hiding apparently one.
• 1:03:08
  Evan: Of the big jumps in cb radios was in the i
• 1:03:11
  Evan: think it was like 1973 or 74 when there
• 1:03:14
  Evan: was the oil crisis and people could tell others when they're like where they
• 1:03:17
  Evan: could find gasoline for their cars or trucks so i mean i don't know how what
• 1:03:22
  Evan: percentage of people were owning them at that point but i bet it was you know
• 1:03:26
  Evan: it was probably essential if you're a trucker and then i don't know about cars
• 1:03:29
  Evan: but probably entertaining when you're driving they They didn't have,
• 1:03:32
  Evan: you know, Howard Stern to keep you company in 1973 or.
• 1:03:36
  Connor: Yeah, definitely. I could see that. I used to do over the road trucking like
• 1:03:41
  Connor: expedited freight kind of thing where I'd be doing super long runs kind of like
• 1:03:45
  Connor: this, where it's like, all right, I've got 24 hours and I've got to get across the country.
• 1:03:50
  Connor: And so I did driving like that. And it's boring.
• 1:03:53
  Connor: Yeah, I could see that. So if you don't have like podcast, I survived on podcasts without podcasts.
• 1:03:58
  Connor: Yeah, I'd probably need to be talking to people on the CB radio. video so i get it i.
• 1:04:02
  brandon: I spent a lot of time in tractor trailers in the late 80s and early 90s because
• 1:04:07
  brandon: my dad was a trucker and we used to take me on the road with him all the time
• 1:04:10
  brandon: and he was on the fucking cb constantly.
• 1:04:12
  Connor: You need people to talk to like i used to talk on the phone to like friends
• 1:04:15
  Connor: who were also doing trucking and stuff like i'd call them up and we'd like chat
• 1:04:18
  Connor: for two or three hours uh i would chat with my partner um we first started dating
• 1:04:24
  Connor: i was actually driving the truck and one of the ways we got to know each other
• 1:04:27
  Connor: really well really fast was because i was in the fucking truck,
• 1:04:31
  Connor: And so we would talk on the phone for like one to three hours per day,
• 1:04:35
  Connor: just like talking on the phone.
• 1:04:37
  Connor: So, um, yeah, it was, I got to know my partner real fast that way.
• 1:04:41
  Connor: Um, but so yeah, I could see the
• 1:04:43
  Connor: CB radios would be the main form of entertainment. I'm sure for truckers.
• 1:04:48
  Evan: What was like the range? Because it seems like if you're in Texas,
• 1:04:51
  Evan: could people in Georgia be listening to your commerce? No, right?
• 1:04:54
  Evan: That's to be about short.
• 1:04:55
  brandon: No, it's you, you've got a range of miles, if not less than that.
• 1:04:59
  brandon: and it depended heavily like uh souping up a
• 1:05:02
  brandon: cb radio was like a whole phenomenon there were cb radio
• 1:05:04
  brandon: shops that specialized in like you know boosting your
• 1:05:07
  brandon: signal and and like you know there are different channels so like if there's
• 1:05:11
  brandon: a you're in a congested area you might go to it that's what they were talking
• 1:05:14
  brandon: about early on in the movie like they're coming up with like oh you know we'll
• 1:05:17
  brandon: switch to if you say go to channel nine i'll go to channel three and all that
• 1:05:21
  brandon: stuff that's because yeah there was 20 some odd different channels that you'd
• 1:05:24
  brandon: switch between if if everything else was crowded.
• 1:05:27
  brandon: I used to go over the road trucking too.
• 1:05:30
  brandon: And I remember if I would go in New Jersey, there were these people that had
• 1:05:33
  brandon: hopped up radios that would just drown everyone out for 15 miles.
• 1:05:37
  brandon: They'd be the only people you could hear if they were on.
• 1:05:39
  Evan: Well, that actually makes it seem like the legend of the band is even greater.
• 1:05:43
  Evan: If people across miles and miles of distance know who he is,
• 1:05:46
  Evan: he's clearly a legend across... I guess that's your job also, Joe.
• 1:05:52
  Connor: I mean well i guess they also set up that like he was
• 1:05:55
  Connor: at this like where they approached him initially with the offer
• 1:05:58
  Connor: was at a truck rodeo where they do like you
• 1:06:01
  Connor: know truck races and shit and like
• 1:06:04
  Connor: goofy stuff is that a real thing he's he's um there
• 1:06:09
  Connor: are absolutely yeah no there no there is there's truck there's
• 1:06:12
  Connor: truck drag racing um i once went to a
• 1:06:15
  Connor: like you know how there's like car shows where like you see
• 1:06:17
  Connor: classic cars and shit i went to a truck show of that those
• 1:06:21
  Connor: are fucking sick i love those fucking trucks oh
• 1:06:24
  Connor: my god it was so fucking cool so i was in i think like joplin
• 1:06:27
  Connor: missouri i was i was at a truck stop you know
• 1:06:29
  Connor: just chilling and then like across the street there's
• 1:06:32
  Connor: like a fucking semi-truck show and i was like yo
• 1:06:35
  Connor: i'm gonna go look at they had these things like all decked
• 1:06:39
  Connor: out and gorgeous paint everything i was like
• 1:06:41
  Connor: so it's very cool in those areas it is a cultural thing and i'm sure at this
• 1:06:46
  Connor: time it was even more so so like you've got more custom trucks which that's
• 1:06:51
  Connor: the other thing we haven't mentioned the truck that they are driving on the
• 1:06:54
  Connor: trailer is like a big fucking cool ass painting and shit like it was cool as fuck oh god.
• 1:07:01
  brandon: What what did that uh the one guy even say about his truck he's like anybody
• 1:07:05
  brandon: who would paint their truck like that would do something.
• 1:07:07
  Connor: Yeah i don't remember.
• 1:07:08
  brandon: What he said.
• 1:07:09
  Connor: But yeah it was something his whole.
• 1:07:11
  brandon: Trailer is just like what like a stage coach being pulled by a bunch of horses or.
• 1:07:15
  Connor: Something like that yeah it's a picture.
• 1:07:16
  bryant: Of a bandit holding up a stagecoach yeah i've.
• 1:07:20
  brandon: Never picked up on that.
• 1:07:21
  Connor: Oh that's hell yeah so yeah like this is
• 1:07:24
  Connor: a very like you can see like the truck is
• 1:07:27
  Connor: iconic he's iconic as a driver he's obviously
• 1:07:30
  Connor: traveled around to these different truck rodeos so like he's gonna have a name
• 1:07:35
  Connor: and this is where he gets that kind of like folk hero status and so i guess
• 1:07:40
  Connor: it's like it's not that unexpected that so many people would know him and would
• 1:07:45
  Connor: listen to the traffic and know that he's doing this run and help them out also.
• 1:07:49
  brandon: If like everyone's aware that like
• 1:07:51
  brandon: this was during a period when like truck drivers were like the modern-day outlaw
• 1:07:56
  brandon: and that was like a cultural phenomenon of in its own right yeah yeah because
• 1:08:01
  brandon: there were there's a an insane amount of movies about truck drivers being like
• 1:08:07
  brandon: outlaw badass guys this isn't even Jerry Reid's only movie where he's a truck driver.
• 1:08:11
  Connor: You know I I sometimes wonder where,
• 1:08:16
  Connor: where that mentality went where it's like, there was a time where like,
• 1:08:21
  Connor: we looked up to criminals where we were like cheering for the criminals.
• 1:08:25
  Connor: And then now it's like, no, no one's cheering for any criminals.
• 1:08:29
  Connor: I'm like, we, we just like, we lost that.
• 1:08:32
  Connor: like i don't know working class solidarity of just like rooting for the little
• 1:08:37
  Connor: guy against the police to just like carve out a little living in this fucking
• 1:08:42
  Connor: shitty shitty economic system like honestly like yeah the law and order shit.
• 1:08:51
  zach: Has really tainted the public's view of what the police do propaganda is fucking real strong that's fair.
• 1:08:59
  Evan: Well and the thing is now people will root for
• 1:09:02
  Evan: who they think is the good guy i mean like think about it in any marvel
• 1:09:05
  Evan: movie you're basically rooting for like american imperialism yeah you know but
• 1:09:09
  Evan: it's actually the bad guy and people just unironically are just rooting for
• 1:09:14
  Evan: them in every single fucking movie they make so just they've twisted over to
• 1:09:18
  Evan: who the bad guy is now it's like china or i don't know some some other place
• 1:09:23
  Evan: and then they just yeah when.
• 1:09:25
  brandon: They they remade red dawn in north North Korea invades America.
• 1:09:28
  Connor: I remember that.
• 1:09:29
  Evan: I saw that.
• 1:09:30
  Connor: I was like, this is great.
• 1:09:32
  brandon: If only in the remake of red Dawn.
• 1:09:34
  bryant: North Korea, America, it wasn't it like they, the script was for it to be China.
• 1:09:40
  bryant: And then they're like, Oh wait, we don't want to piss off China with this.
• 1:09:42
  bryant: So they just like digitally changed all the flags or something.
• 1:09:47
  Connor: Oh God.
• 1:09:48
  Evan: With Chris Hemsworth, man, this looks terrible.
• 1:09:52
  Connor: I haven't seen that.
• 1:09:53
  Evan: Like I didn't, I didn't, she didn't realize they had remade it,
• 1:09:56
  Evan: but that's, that's terrible.
• 1:09:57
  zach: You've seen the original though.
• 1:09:58
  Evan: Um yeah i've seen the original.
• 1:10:00
  zach: Half of the marvel movies the villain is just some nondescript arab country
• 1:10:04
  zach: yeah like they're brown and we're terrified of them let's kill them they're.
• 1:10:11
  Connor: Evil for no reason don't ask.
• 1:10:13
  zach: Any questions they just hate our freedom and democracy there's no pretext to this.
• 1:10:21
  Evan: Oh man now i feel like i need to do i need to do an episode on red dawn that
• 1:10:25
  Evan: would be a original Red Dead, not this new one. Haven't seen that in forever.
• 1:10:30
  brandon: If you want to go into some Red Scare shit, that might be peak.
• 1:10:34
  brandon: In terms of cinema, that might be peak Red Scare.
• 1:10:38
  bryant: It's set in Colorado, but filmed in New Mexico, I think.
• 1:10:41
  Evan: Yeah, that's a good one. What was the other thing?
• 1:10:44
  Connor: I feel like now is a good time just because any time,
• 1:10:50
  Connor: North Korea is mentioned as a villain in of whatever and in propaganda i always
• 1:10:56
  Connor: mention um blowback season three if you haven't listened to it phenomenal it
• 1:11:03
  Connor: is on the korean war and uh believe me learning about that shit is,
• 1:11:09
  Connor: fucking wild so yeah it's it's very good if you want to know more about the
• 1:11:14
  Connor: history of how the north uh wound up where it is and how the whole korean peninsula
• 1:11:19
  Connor: exists today that's a really good podcast to listen to.
• 1:11:24
  Evan: Yeah i i would highly i'd second that it's uh phenomenal i think the the new
• 1:11:29
  Evan: one is coming out pretty soon cambodia maybe oh.
• 1:11:32
  Connor: Yeah i don't know.
• 1:11:34
  Evan: I think season five yeah i.
• 1:11:37
  Connor: Know the last one was afghanistan which is also every every season of that that's
• 1:11:41
  Connor: probably one of the best podcasts out there in my opinion like that is top tier
• 1:11:47
  Connor: shit i think in terms of all-time great it's i was gonna make a.
• 1:11:52
  brandon: Joke about how it's third behind uh left of the projector well.
• 1:11:55
  Evan: That's just assumed i mean i mean they hardly talk about.
• 1:12:00
  bryant: Cars or movies at all on that.
• 1:12:02
  Connor: Yeah yeah that's actually.
• 1:12:05
  bryant: Really lacking well.
• 1:12:07
  Evan: They briefly talked about uh in the afghanistan one they briefly talk about
• 1:12:11
  Evan: the opening to um what's that's the rainbow yeah the rambo two or it's like
• 1:12:17
  Evan: the uh the faked opening credit right i feel.
• 1:12:21
  brandon: Like they also talk about bringing in all the toyota trucks at one point.
• 1:12:24
  Evan: Oh do they i don't know if i remember that i.
• 1:12:26
  brandon: Feel like i remember that being mentioned but i wouldn't swear it's true.
• 1:12:29
  Evan: I actually once tried i tried to reach out to noah colwyn to be on this podcast
• 1:12:32
  Evan: he didn't respond to me oh well because.
• 1:12:36
  brandon: He's not as great as us yeah.
• 1:12:37
  Evan: That's okay well.
• 1:12:38
  bryant: There's your problem never returned my email so or.
• 1:12:41
  Evan: Yeah ralph.
• 1:12:42
  bryant: Nader for that matter.
• 1:12:43
  Evan: Oh that would have been right.
• 1:12:45
  Connor: We were trying to get ralph nader on i.
• 1:12:46
  brandon: Don't want to be weird but i found a connect really so if we still want to get
• 1:12:52
  brandon: ralph nader Later on, I might know who to talk to.
• 1:12:55
  Connor: Absolutely. Okay, we're in.
• 1:12:59
  Evan: I can ask. Will he listen to your other episodes? You're just going to go in blind.
• 1:13:04
  brandon: I hope he never listens to any of our episodes, because then he will definitely not come on.
• 1:13:07
  bryant: I think we were pretty nice to him.
• 1:13:10
  Connor: We're still talking about his book. Yeah, we were great.
• 1:13:13
  brandon: I'm not saying we were mean to him. I'm just saying, in general,
• 1:13:15
  brandon: I won't speak for everyone, but I'm a crazy person.
• 1:13:19
  brandon: Anyone who listens to me rant through a whole episode is not going to want to join in.
• 1:13:23
  bryant: Uh yeah he is a little bit more of a serious character than all of us but yeah.
• 1:13:28
  Evan: With his uh what like those shoes i don't remember the the stat you said about
• 1:13:32
  Evan: his shoes which was crazy.
• 1:13:33
  bryant: Oh yeah like he he liked to he found a type of shoe that he liked and bought
• 1:13:37
  bryant: like 100 pairs of them or something like that just.
• 1:13:41
  Evan: Wears them each in.
• 1:13:42
  bryant: A row like his.
• 1:13:43
  Evan: His his closet's probably like four suits and you know 40 pairs of the same shoe something.
• 1:13:49
  bryant: Like that yeah i'd.
• 1:13:51
  brandon: Only just occurred to me that maybe ralph nader is autistic.
• 1:13:53
  bryant: Yeah he's uh he's uh some sort of neurodiverse person i would say probably see.
• 1:13:59
  brandon: That sort of thing never registers to me because,
• 1:14:02
  brandon: I don't know. Autistic people make sense to me.
• 1:14:03
  zach: I'm over here thinking I should do that with my shoes. I don't know why I don't
• 1:14:08
  zach: do that already. That's a great idea.
• 1:14:11
  brandon: Oh, I've worn the same style and brand of shoes and the same style and brand of pants for 15 years.
• 1:14:17
  Connor: Hey, when you find what works, fucking go with it.
• 1:14:19
  brandon: I buy a couple, a few pair at a time so I don't ever have to figure out what I'm wearing.
• 1:14:23
  Evan: Smart.
• 1:14:24
  brandon: And people never know if I'm just wearing dirty clothes.
• 1:14:27
  bryant: He only owns one thing.
• 1:14:29
  Evan: Is one of them the blue suit that they wear in this movie or no because if it's
• 1:14:33
  Evan: not then i don't know i've.
• 1:14:35
  Connor: Been looking.
• 1:14:37
  brandon: For one in my size you.
• 1:14:38
  Evan: Know they only come in like big and big and small i think apparently these uh
• 1:14:43
  Evan: um what's like those i guess well so i guess the for to like you know i don't
• 1:14:49
  Evan: spoil the end they're gonna obviously they get to the uh the end and the i guess
• 1:14:55
  Evan: the funniest thing is that they do uh they bring the
• 1:14:58
  Evan: beer and then they say like oh we'll do double or nothing yeah and they tell
• 1:15:01
  Evan: them to go to boss and they bring back clam chowder and what 18 hours which.
• 1:15:05
  Connor: Yeah it's really far.
• 1:15:07
  brandon: Away that one's insane that is not a thing you're gonna do.
• 1:15:11
  Connor: Well yeah and so like they come in and so i i
• 1:15:14
  Connor: found it interesting like they come in hot right the
• 1:15:17
  Connor: truck is fucking breaking down barriers getting
• 1:15:20
  Connor: into there they get there and then they're like all right
• 1:15:23
  Connor: give us the fucking money we have to run from the police
• 1:15:26
  Connor: this instant like we need a
• 1:15:29
  Connor: car we have to get the fuck away because like they're by the
• 1:15:31
  Connor: end it culminates in like they're being chased by sheriff buford
• 1:15:35
  Connor: t justice along with all kinds of local sheriffs state troopers uh they have
• 1:15:40
  Connor: a fucking police helicopter chasing them at one point so when they come in they're
• 1:15:45
  Connor: coming in hot they're like all right here's your fucking beer give us the money
• 1:15:48
  Connor: and they're like well how about you do double or nothing and and And they're like, yeah, sure, okay.
• 1:15:54
  Connor: Like, with no details, they're like, yeah, we're into it. We have to run immediately,
• 1:15:59
  Connor: and we've now made a decision.
• 1:16:01
  Connor: And then they work out the details are,
• 1:16:04
  Connor: Go to Boston. Bring us clam chowder in 18 hours.
• 1:16:09
  Connor: And again, this just goes to the point that these rich guys have nothing.
• 1:16:12
  Connor: They don't care. None of this matters.
• 1:16:15
  Connor: They're just like, all right, how about you do this harder one so that we don't
• 1:16:18
  Connor: have to fucking pay you? And the bandit agrees.
• 1:16:21
  brandon: That's probably like 800 miles each way.
• 1:16:23
  bryant: It's going to take them 18 hours just to get out of Boston, probably.
• 1:16:26
  zach: Yeah, no kidding.
• 1:16:28
  Evan: Yeah, they don't have the big dig yet. It'll be fucked.
• 1:16:31
  brandon: Yo, I got sidetracked, and I need to share this with you. So,
• 1:16:35
  brandon: Smokey and the Bandit has two sequels, which get worse and worse.
• 1:16:39
  Connor: I didn't know that until last night, and then I was like, oof,
• 1:16:41
  Connor: I've never seen those. Probably not good.
• 1:16:43
  brandon: I need to read the synopsis from IMDb of Smokey and the Bandit 2.
• 1:16:49
  Connor: Okay, one, is it about them getting the clam chowder? I'm assuming it is.
• 1:16:53
  Connor: That's a crime. That should be illegal.
• 1:16:55
  brandon: Because I couldn't remember what the second one was about, so that's why I even
• 1:16:58
  brandon: Googled it. I'm going to read this word for fucking word.
• 1:17:02
  brandon: Folk hero The Bandit has fallen on bad times, but comes to life when he is hired
• 1:17:07
  brandon: to help transport a pregnant elephant to a Republican convention in Dallas.
• 1:17:14
  Connor: Why? Why does that exist? Did they get the clam chowder?
• 1:17:19
  Connor: I don't even know. Oh, that's...
• 1:17:23
  Connor: why is you're.
• 1:17:23
  brandon: Too focused on the continuity.
• 1:17:25
  Connor: Here yeah well a pregnant elephant that's that's not good don't put that in
• 1:17:31
  Connor: a truck and drive real fast like what are you doing what's that one's got dom.
• 1:17:37
  brandon: Deluise in it who dom deluise i.
• 1:17:40
  Connor: Don't know who that is i.
• 1:17:41
  brandon: I forget that i'm the oldest i.
• 1:17:42
  bryant: Know he's a character.
• 1:17:43
  Connor: So he.
• 1:17:46
  brandon: Was sort of an eccentric actor back in the day he's he's real over the top um.
• 1:17:49
  Evan: Wait are you old.
• 1:17:50
  Connor: I don't know if you're older what was the third one uh.
• 1:17:52
  brandon: I i just remember that the tagline is smoky is the bandit um i.
• 1:17:57
  Connor: Think that they.
• 1:17:57
  brandon: Get jackie gleason to uh actually be the the good guy in that one.
• 1:18:02
  Connor: I'm against it now that's that's horseshit also.
• 1:18:06
  brandon: Uh uh for some reason they make um um they they like swap everything around
• 1:18:11
  brandon: and um jerry reed is the bandit in that movie.
• 1:18:14
  Connor: I mean that's kind of cool well he's got like a mustache.
• 1:18:16
  brandon: And they're like they could i don't think they could get burt reynolds for this
• 1:18:19
  brandon: one so they tried to make him look like burt reynolds.
• 1:18:21
  Connor: Is in the second.
• 1:18:23
  Evan: One i think i'm talking about the third one third.
• 1:18:25
  Connor: One yeah by the third yeah he's probably like all right this is horse shit now
• 1:18:28
  Connor: i don't want to do it um i feel like we should be glad to.
• 1:18:31
  brandon: Know that big and little anus are in okay that.
• 1:18:34
  Connor: Is good to know it uh i also think it's important to mention um for anyone who hasn't seen the movie,
• 1:18:40
  Connor: smoky is referring to a police officer any police officer they're they're referring
• 1:18:45
  Connor: to on the cb be radios as smoky so the title smoky and the bandit is about the
• 1:18:50
  Connor: fucking police um which i don't think we've actually ever clarified because
• 1:18:55
  Connor: it could easily be another.
• 1:18:56
  Evan: Character named smoky so yeah yeah.
• 1:18:57
  Connor: And i.
• 1:18:58
  zach: Just i love that they call cops smokies in this it's so good and like perfectly
• 1:19:04
  zach: derogatory for a pg rating like i feel like if they had a uh a higher rating
• 1:19:10
  zach: or you know like an R rating,
• 1:19:12
  zach: they would have just called this movie Pigs and the Bandit.
• 1:19:15
  zach: I love that about it.
• 1:19:17
  brandon: I know Smokey was common slang back then. I don't really know the origins of
• 1:19:22
  brandon: it or how derogative it even necessarily was.
• 1:19:25
  zach: It feels derogatory to me because I see it as kind of like calling pigs in a
• 1:19:30
  zach: blanket little Smokeys or the little,
• 1:19:33
  zach: wieners like little Smokeys is kind of just one step removed from calling cops
• 1:19:39
  zach: cops, pigs, and I don't know. I just enjoy that.
• 1:19:43
  Connor: It's hard to imagine any nickname for cops not being derogatory.
• 1:19:47
  Connor: So I kind of feel you there. It's like, yeah, it was probably meant to be a pejorative.
• 1:19:53
  zach: Yeah, I mean, they weren't calling them officers of the law.
• 1:19:55
  zach: They were not calling them.
• 1:19:59
  Connor: There was no respect in the term.
• 1:20:01
  Evan: Clearly.
• 1:20:02
  bryant: I looked it up, and it's because they wore big cowboy hats like Smokey the Bear.
• 1:20:08
  brandon: Okay oh my god i i assumed that smoky the bear came later no that's.
• 1:20:14
  bryant: Like from the 20s or something.
• 1:20:15
  Connor: Okay oh.
• 1:20:17
  brandon: I didn't know that i didn't know that.
• 1:20:18
  bryant: Yeah it was uh it was uh or maybe even earlier it was teddy roosevelt uh had
• 1:20:23
  bryant: a bear cub named smoky because he rescued it from a forest fire yeah oh no shit.
• 1:20:27
  Evan: That actually reminds me of a of a thing that i forgot to mention we were talking
• 1:20:30
  Evan: about cores earlier apparently dwight eisenhower when he was president would
• 1:20:34
  Evan: also steal cores and bring it back to the white house because he couldn't get
• 1:20:39
  Evan: it except for in colorado i think.
• 1:20:41
  Connor: I feel like that's not stealing if you're the president like you're basically
• 1:20:44
  Connor: a king you could just be like give me the thing and they'll give it to you i
• 1:20:48
  Connor: don't think i don't know if there's well i mean i guess you could steal the
• 1:20:52
  Connor: wealth of other nations and whatnot as you plunder the world that's just democracy
• 1:20:56
  Connor: but like that's a little different alternate.
• 1:20:58
  brandon: Plot for this movie FDR contacts the bandit He.
• 1:21:03
  Connor: Wants a truckload Of Coors.
• 1:21:05
  brandon: Beer delivered to Washington D.C. in 28 hours.
• 1:21:11
  Evan: And he also works As a CIA agent on the side Yeah.
• 1:21:15
  brandon: Actually if it's A secret Remake of Smokey and the Bandit He's just running cocaine for the CIA.
• 1:21:22
  zach: This is literally the Archer Episode where they spoof Smokey and the Bandit
• 1:21:26
  zach: This is exactly what happens in that episode of Archer yeah.
• 1:21:34
  bryant: What's that movie with Tom Cruise where he's smuggling coke for the cartels
• 1:21:38
  bryant: or whatever? And there's like a CIA connection.
• 1:21:41
  bryant: It's like, oh, shoot. American Made, I think, is what it's called.
• 1:21:44
  Connor: I don't think I've ever seen a Tom Cruise movie. Like, I don't think it's possible.
• 1:21:50
  Connor: Is it? What movies is he in?
• 1:21:53
  brandon: He was in all of them for 20 years.
• 1:21:55
  Connor: Was he? All I remember is he danced on Oprah's couch or something or stood there.
• 1:22:00
  Connor: I don't know what. I don't know. I just know that that's a reference.
• 1:22:03
  Connor: friends he was in that fucking airplane movie that i never saw so every mission.
• 1:22:07
  Evan: Impossible yeah never.
• 1:22:08
  Connor: Saw those you're talking.
• 1:22:09
  brandon: About top gun i love that you just referred to top gun as that airplane.
• 1:22:13
  Connor: Movie that's not to be confused with the movie airplane which is tom cruise is.
• 1:22:19
  zach: Not an airplane just so we're clear.
• 1:22:21
  Connor: All right i continue to hold that i don't think i've ever seen a tom cruise
• 1:22:25
  Connor: film good for me you're not missing out i don't think.
• 1:22:29
  brandon: Um at an an hour and a half do we want to wrap this up because right now we're talking about tom um.
• 1:22:34
  Connor: I did want to okay i wanted to have a quick conversation about some of the the comical damage,
• 1:22:41
  Connor: that is incurred by uh buford t justice as they like as the car gets increasingly
• 1:22:47
  Connor: damaged throughout the movie oh.
• 1:22:49
  bryant: Daddy the top came.
• 1:22:50
  Connor: Um i love when he.
• 1:22:53
  Evan: Says throw the evidence in the back and he just like puts the door in the back of the car at this.
• 1:22:57
  Connor: Right because no no it's.
• 1:22:59
  brandon: It's even better than that. He gets in. He's like, put the evidence in the car
• 1:23:02
  brandon: and he climbs into the passenger seat with the car door in his lap.
• 1:23:06
  brandon: Like, put it in the back, Junior.
• 1:23:09
  Connor: Well, and the door was knocked off because a trucker who was listening in on
• 1:23:13
  Connor: the CD radio, like, was like, this is crazy look in his eyes.
• 1:23:18
  Connor: And he's like, he sees the cop car pulled over with the door open and he drives
• 1:23:22
  Connor: through and, like, takes the door off.
• 1:23:24
  Connor: And the Buford T judge is like, I saw that. You did that on purpose.
• 1:23:29
  Connor: Well, like, he's just gone. He drives away.
• 1:23:33
  Connor: So, by the end, I mean, like,
• 1:23:37
  Connor: the car had lost its top at some point when they drove under a truck that was
• 1:23:42
  Connor: like crossing the road, uh,
• 1:23:45
  Connor: carrying something, um, not in a traditional truck bed, but like,
• 1:23:49
  Connor: so it's crossing the road, the bandit, um, their car, they obviously, they miss it.
• 1:23:54
  Connor: They, they change directions and the sheriff's car goes under it.
• 1:23:59
  Connor: Shears the whole fucking roof off, which, uh, you know, pretty big damage.
• 1:24:05
  Connor: Um, they duck their heads, whatever. And, It takes the roof off.
• 1:24:08
  Connor: But yeah, there was just there was so much damage to this car that I just I
• 1:24:13
  Connor: love that they continue driving it. No door, no top.
• 1:24:17
  Connor: At one point, the horn is stuck on driving around and the horns just blaring.
• 1:24:24
  bryant: I've been in that situation. It's unfortunate.
• 1:24:27
  Evan: Apparently, at the end, they could actually barely even drive the car.
• 1:24:30
  Evan: They had destroyed it so much where they like when he's actually rolling out
• 1:24:33
  Evan: of the fair at the end. like it actually was struggling to actually drive like.
• 1:24:37
  bryant: In real life you mean and when they're making.
• 1:24:39
  Evan: Real life yeah oh yeah he has so many good lines there's one other one that
• 1:24:47
  Evan: i was trying to remember uh oh man i lost the one,
• 1:24:52
  Evan: I like that he asked for the Diablo sandwich, which is apparently a real thing,
• 1:24:55
  Evan: the Diablo chicken sandwich, and then a Dr. Pepper.
• 1:24:58
  Connor: Wait, at that particular restaurant or something? Because I was wondering,
• 1:25:02
  Connor: how the fuck does he know what to order?
• 1:25:04
  Connor: That was my question. I was like, he's way behind Texas. How does he know?
• 1:25:08
  brandon: I think that just means a spicy chicken sandwich.
• 1:25:09
  zach: Yeah.
• 1:25:11
  Evan: Apparently, I think that was in Arkansas where they were, I think.
• 1:25:15
  Evan: I don't know. Yeah, I think it's in Arkansas.
• 1:25:17
  zach: I think it's in Arkansas now.
• 1:25:18
  Evan: Yeah, I think it's apparently famous now.
• 1:25:19
  brandon: Also, since we're discussing that, can we acknowledge that they refer to like
• 1:25:23
  brandon: truck stop restaurants as joking pukes?
• 1:25:26
  bryant: Yeah.
• 1:25:26
  zach: I would also like to point out that the bandit orders two cheeseburgers and
• 1:25:32
  zach: an iced tea and his total is a dollar and a half.
• 1:25:35
  zach: Which is just infuriating to hear in the year 2024.
• 1:25:40
  Connor: Well, and actually, I did take notes about this. that is a scene where the bandit
• 1:25:45
  Connor: and sheriff view for t justice encounter each other in person um,
• 1:25:51
  Connor: unbeknownst to the sheriff who's like coming in screaming ranting raving and
• 1:25:56
  Connor: actually i forgot this kind of a major point um that i wanted to make he's like
• 1:26:00
  Connor: screaming about how he's chasing this maniac and the bandit's just like calmly
• 1:26:03
  Connor: at the counter like oh man that's crazy wow tell me
• 1:26:07
  Connor: more about this guy you're chasing he's like oh he's uh he's guilty of kidnapping he he attempted.
• 1:26:14
  Connor: Murder of 20 officers so like as it
• 1:26:17
  Connor: goes on and it was like making the point that like this cop can
• 1:26:20
  Connor: just lie and make shit up and like inflate the
• 1:26:23
  Connor: charges to this absurd degree so like
• 1:26:26
  Connor: you hear him describing the most deranged criminal in all time and we know the
• 1:26:32
  Connor: bandit's the hero of this film none of the shit he's saying is fucking true
• 1:26:35
  Connor: this cop just lies through his fucking teeth and I found that like that was
• 1:26:39
  Connor: a deliberate choice when they made this film like that the cop is just,
• 1:26:44
  Connor: fucking making up this whole story and like
• 1:26:47
  Connor: twisting everything that has happened into this
• 1:26:51
  Connor: is the worst criminal ever and it's like no it's
• 1:26:54
  Connor: not so um and i also found it funny like as he's like yelling to the bandit
• 1:27:00
  Connor: about this maniac that he's chasing not knowing who he's talking to he's like
• 1:27:04
  Connor: speaking in a way that like he spits on the face accidentally of the bandit who like
• 1:27:11
  Connor: calmly like wipes it away from his eye.
• 1:27:14
  Connor: Like, and just like without missing a beat, like wipes away his spit and like
• 1:27:18
  Connor: keeps like asking him questions.
• 1:27:19
  Connor: But like, it was pretty amusing that like they come face to face like this.
• 1:27:24
  Connor: And then we know that the fucking sheriff is just sitting there lying and being an asshole.
• 1:27:29
  Connor: And it's, it's, it's a great portrayal of police.
• 1:27:33
  Evan: Yeah. Maybe the greatest portrayal ever in a movie.
• 1:27:39
  brandon: Definitely the most accurate.
• 1:27:42
  bryant: You know uh one thing i wanted to ask brandon is like how accurate are the georgia
• 1:27:48
  bryant: accents in this or do you think they're kind of hamming it up a little bit.
• 1:27:51
  brandon: Um okay so truck drivers
• 1:27:54
  brandon: in my experience which is pretty a lot because
• 1:27:57
  brandon: my dad and all of his friends were drivers tended to
• 1:28:00
  brandon: be kind of an over-the-top eccentric crowd so like honestly i'm
• 1:28:04
  brandon: not good at hearing southern accents sense because i'm really fucking
• 1:28:07
  brandon: used to it um but i mean i don't know i would say it's it's a slight exaggeration
• 1:28:13
  brandon: but more in terms of like the movie is about a a group of characters that are
• 1:28:19
  brandon: like supposed to be kind of over the top and interesting but none of the accents
• 1:28:22
  brandon: didn't really stand out to me it's too much yeah.
• 1:28:24
  bryant: I couldn't tell myself because i know.
• 1:28:26
  brandon: I mean everything if anything i okay again i fucking love jerry reed um if anything
• 1:28:34
  brandon: he dialed it it back to play that character he was in real life just a really
• 1:28:39
  brandon: like raucous fun happy over the top kind of guy cool.
• 1:28:42
  bryant: I'll have to look.
• 1:28:43
  brandon: And also like one of probably the most talented guitar players in the history
• 1:28:47
  brandon: of country music you know does anybody want a very brief story about how he became famous sure.
• 1:28:52
  Connor: Yeah of course.
• 1:28:53
  brandon: He sold a song to elvis to play,
• 1:28:57
  brandon: But because he was such a good guitar player, they had to bring him into the,
• 1:29:01
  brandon: they had to like track him back down.
• 1:29:03
  brandon: He was in Georgia at the time and they had to ship him out to wherever Elvis
• 1:29:06
  brandon: was because Elvis could not, like nobody in the recording studio could figure
• 1:29:11
  brandon: out how to play the song the way that Jerry Reed had written it.
• 1:29:13
  Connor: That's awesome.
• 1:29:14
  brandon: He got famous because he had to go in to actually teach them to play his music. And that.
• 1:29:19
  Evan: That's amazing.
• 1:29:20
  brandon: He had like written music for people before and was not unestablished,
• 1:29:24
  brandon: but that really got his, his him to the next level where he was able to like take off from there.
• 1:29:29
  bryant: Cool.
• 1:29:29
  Connor: That's sweet. Um, I think speaking of, uh, Jerry Reed, um, Oh,
• 1:29:35
  Connor: I forgot my thought. Whoops.
• 1:29:38
  Connor: Oh, well it's gone. You know, I had it.
• 1:29:41
  bryant: I'll say one thing I appreciate about this movie was just like all the seventies
• 1:29:46
  bryant: style in their fashion and hairstyles and everything.
• 1:29:49
  brandon: It's, it, yeah it's such a yeah it's kind of like looking.
• 1:29:53
  bryant: At pictures of my parents when they're in high school but it's just it's just amusing i think.
• 1:29:59
  brandon: There's more than a couple of second gen for advanced too which uh you know
• 1:30:02
  brandon: it hits me right in the heartstrings although i am confused as to why all the
• 1:30:06
  brandon: ones in the movie are running uh.
• 1:30:10
  Connor: Well it was the time period they were they were close to new back then.
• 1:30:13
  brandon: Yeah i stand by what okay i.
• 1:30:16
  Connor: Was like oh you.
• 1:30:17
  brandon: Know what that doesn't that doesn't.
• 1:30:18
  Connor: Mean a lot actually I do remember my point about Jerry Reed by the way I was
• 1:30:24
  Connor: going to point out that also,
• 1:30:26
  Connor: I found it especially cool that the iconic song for the movie is eastbound and
• 1:30:32
  Connor: down, which I don't know if we can add that song into like the outro or something.
• 1:30:38
  Connor: But at the beginning of the movie, it's actually westbound and down.
• 1:30:42
  Connor: OK, so the song is actually different at the beginning of the movie.
• 1:30:46
  Connor: So I extra cool on Jerry Reed to write basically two songs that are very similar,
• 1:30:52
  Connor: but are at different points of exposition for the movie I think.
• 1:30:58
  Evan: You would be okay with me putting the songs at the beginning and the end of this movie.
• 1:31:01
  Connor: Probably hopefully it doesn't cause a problem I've put like occasionally put.
• 1:31:07
  Evan: Things in like Lord of the Rings whatever and there's no like monetary gain
• 1:31:13
  Evan: from this podcast what are they going to sue me from like the zero.
• 1:31:17
  Connor: Dollars I put a two second clip.
• 1:31:20
  bryant: Of cake song in one of our episodes and then when i uploaded it to youtube they
• 1:31:25
  bryant: said we're not allowing this to be visible in russia so that was the only consequence of that okay i.
• 1:31:33
  Connor: Did see a bunch of a bunch of emails come through from youtube as soon as you
• 1:31:37
  Connor: uploaded our shit like we've removed this we've removed that i was like god
• 1:31:42
  Connor: damn like chill out we're not fucking doing anything or making any money here like come on i.
• 1:31:47
  brandon: Looked up the smoky and the bandit soundtrack and there is a separate recording
• 1:31:51
  brandon: for westbound and down and eastbound and down but there's also a track on the
• 1:31:56
  brandon: soundtrack called march of the rednecks.
• 1:31:59
  Connor: Hell yeah i wonder.
• 1:32:00
  zach: If that's the song that they play when all of the people leave the uh gas station
• 1:32:04
  zach: to block up the cops and they're all in like hot rods this is.
• 1:32:11
  brandon: An entire movie about people blocking the police.
• 1:32:13
  Connor: It's so great I you know they make fun of the police and they also like display
• 1:32:20
  Connor: like this working class solidarity that is just like so cool to see on screen,
• 1:32:26
  Connor: and it's and so many everyone who sees this movie.
• 1:32:30
  Connor: Gets it and they can they're on the right side everybody's like
• 1:32:33
  Connor: yeah solidarity with the working people i'm like can we do that
• 1:32:36
  Connor: in real life can we have like the just the real
• 1:32:39
  Connor: thing just be like that just be like these
• 1:32:42
  Connor: people they're all cool and amazing you should want
• 1:32:45
  Connor: to emulate them absolutely yeah um now
• 1:32:49
  Connor: there's there is one thing i did want to mention too um as
• 1:32:52
  Connor: we have all this praise for the for the movie um i didn't
• 1:32:55
  Connor: want to like entirely leave it up to like oh it's
• 1:32:58
  Connor: so great and everything there is some sexism in this movie um
• 1:33:01
  Connor: it was that time period but like it is watching it
• 1:33:05
  Connor: back i was like all right yeah it's there so
• 1:33:08
  Connor: like they have some kind of progressive feel
• 1:33:12
  Connor: towards like racial politics and and just generally
• 1:33:15
  Connor: a lot of progressive ideas one of those ideas is
• 1:33:18
  Connor: not uh feminism um unfortunately like
• 1:33:22
  Connor: some of it feels a little tongue-in-cheek kind
• 1:33:25
  Connor: of like everything else but some of it i was like nah this
• 1:33:28
  Connor: feels a little bit like just regular old sexism um so you know warning anyone
• 1:33:34
  Connor: who does listen or who does choose to like watch this movie it's there um i
• 1:33:39
  Connor: i don't think it's like overbearing to a point where it's like unwatchable but like it's there yeah.
• 1:33:46
  bryant: And there was a a little note of casual racism where uh the truck driver that
• 1:33:52
  bryant: takes the door off the sheriff's car is an asian guy and he yells bonsai as he does it so.
• 1:33:57
  Connor: Oh yeah.
• 1:33:59
  brandon: Appropriate or not i did laugh at that it was you just don't in the 70s you
• 1:34:04
  brandon: just didn't see a lot of asian people i guess so yeah appropriate no but.
• 1:34:08
  Connor: Yeah so like the film had the film had its its issues right it's from 1977 it's
• 1:34:15
  Connor: it's gonna be certainly imperfect and and problematic in a number of ways.
• 1:34:20
  Connor: Um, what is more surprising to me is the ways in which it was less problematic
• 1:34:24
  Connor: than you would expect. Um, it is,
• 1:34:27
  Connor: overall had pretty reasonable politics i
• 1:34:30
  Connor: feel like and you know saying cops are bad and
• 1:34:33
  Connor: making fun of them always good politics that's great so um
• 1:34:37
  Connor: but it was it it did seem
• 1:34:40
  Connor: like this story the folk hero status of the bandit really
• 1:34:43
  Connor: did unite people across gender rate uh
• 1:34:46
  Connor: racial uh you know identity religion whatever
• 1:34:49
  Connor: it seemed to unite everybody in the working class
• 1:34:52
  Connor: around this this mission of the bandit beating the police and you know getting
• 1:34:59
  Connor: the fucking getting one over on the rich guys who thought he couldn't do it
• 1:35:03
  Connor: um so like there are good things there are problems with it of course um but
• 1:35:09
  Connor: overall i feel like it is it is a little bit of.
• 1:35:12
  bryant: A male fantasy.
• 1:35:13
  Connor: Movie kind.
• 1:35:14
  bryant: Of like a james bond.
• 1:35:15
  Connor: Movie or something.
• 1:35:15
  bryant: Like that yeah absolutely.
• 1:35:16
  Evan: That's true yes this this this.
• 1:35:19
  Connor: It was my male targeting my.
• 1:35:21
  brandon: People is.
• 1:35:22
  bryant: It is it red redneck exploitation what did you call it that or trucker exploitation.
• 1:35:27
  brandon: I i i would argue yes which i
• 1:35:30
  brandon: don't think that's necessarily a bad thing but like yeah and then that weird
• 1:35:33
  brandon: incredibly specific subset of movies from the era yeah i would lump this into
• 1:35:37
  brandon: that because like i said like trucker movies were all the rage and this one
• 1:35:41
  brandon: in convoy were the big two which i also would have accepted doing convoy because
• 1:35:44
  brandon: chris christopherson was another fucking badass working class hero.
• 1:35:47
  Connor: You know actually you know what else struck me about this movie
• 1:35:50
  Connor: weirdly they they actually spend way less
• 1:35:53
  Connor: time talking about the car than i would have expected in
• 1:35:56
  Connor: a lot of ways the car kind of feels like an afterthought they they never
• 1:35:59
  Connor: actually i don't think they ever actually say what engine it has
• 1:36:02
  Connor: they don't ever actually like spend any time being like
• 1:36:05
  Connor: yo this car is fast they don't ever
• 1:36:07
  Connor: say they just like it's just driving he has um they
• 1:36:13
  Connor: don't talk about what engine it has they don't talk about look oh
• 1:36:16
  Connor: this thing's a stick shift or they don't talk about
• 1:36:19
  Connor: or automate they talk about none of it they don't
• 1:36:22
  Connor: talk about the tires it has they don't talk about the suspension they don't
• 1:36:25
  Connor: like and a lot of times when you see a car that is like so
• 1:36:28
  Connor: prominent in a film they're gonna mention like here's
• 1:36:31
  Connor: the details of this car and it's so funny that like this is such a like an iconic
• 1:36:36
  Connor: film it put the fucking trans am on the map 700% increase in sales for the Pontiac
• 1:36:43
  Connor: Trans Am and they talked about it like not at all. It was a fucking afterthought.
• 1:36:49
  Connor: It was just we're going to buy a random car that's quick to block the police
• 1:36:53
  Connor: and like this thing had T tops and everything which for those who don't know
• 1:36:58
  Connor: T tops is instead of a convertible.
• 1:37:01
  Connor: It's like you have these this roof is made of like a center pillar that's metal
• 1:37:06
  Connor: and connected to the rest of the car and then these two,
• 1:37:09
  Connor: like glass squares that you can remove and so it's almost like a convertible it's.
• 1:37:16
  brandon: It's the coolest possible way to guarantee that your car leaks in the rain.
• 1:37:19
  Connor: I was i'm glad someone made the joke yes it's a very cool way to have a leaky car um,
• 1:37:26
  Connor: so like it had all this cool shit it was and
• 1:37:30
  Connor: funny enough i actually had a 1981 trans am
• 1:37:33
  Connor: it was my first car never drove it uh
• 1:37:36
  Connor: not surprising the thing was rotting out and
• 1:37:39
  Connor: whatnot it's a whole thing i'm not gonna get into it but yeah these
• 1:37:43
  Connor: cars had some problems but um i
• 1:37:46
  Connor: did find it like kind of just weird that like they're driving this
• 1:37:49
  Connor: car in this like even the director like kind of
• 1:37:52
  Connor: alluded to the car as like its own character and yet
• 1:37:55
  Connor: we know so little about the character like it became culturally you knew about
• 1:38:01
  Connor: it it's like oh that's the bandit car like everybody knows the car but like
• 1:38:04
  Connor: again we don't even know what fucking engine it has we're guessing it's either
• 1:38:08
  Connor: the 400 or the 403 we don't actually i don't think we actually officially do.
• 1:38:13
  brandon: I think it would have been the 400 or the 455.
• 1:38:15
  Connor: No i don't even think it was the 455 because i don't even think that was offered in 1970.
• 1:38:19
  zach: We do know i.
• 1:38:20
  Connor: Think it was well this was.
• 1:38:21
  bryant: A 76 we're getting real arty here the.
• 1:38:24
  brandon: Car is a 76.
• 1:38:25
  Connor: Oh yeah.
• 1:38:26
  brandon: We are getting autistic about that we do.
• 1:38:27
  Connor: Know that it has the 400 because.
• 1:38:29
  zach: It says on the ram air intake on the hood 6.6 liter yes at one point you can the 6.6.
• 1:38:36
  Connor: Liter referred to both they referred to both the 400 and the 403 although i
• 1:38:42
  Connor: think technically the 403 might have said t slash a 6.6 i i'm i'm a little unclear
• 1:38:49
  Connor: about that but both were technically a 6.6 liter.
• 1:38:52
  Connor: And yes, we're being very autistic about this now. Yeah. That's sorry.
• 1:38:55
  Evan: That's okay. Um, what was I going to say? I forgot.
• 1:38:59
  Connor: I don't know. I just found that fucking weird though. Like that.
• 1:39:01
  Connor: They just really, the car is just like kind of an afterthought,
• 1:39:05
  Connor: even though this is the movie that is like the Trans Am movie.
• 1:39:10
  Connor: Like I just found that to be in a way.
• 1:39:13
  zach: The car kind of speaks for itself in the movie, whereas you don't have to have
• 1:39:17
  zach: this scene of like a bunch of exposition about, oh, this is a 1977 Trans Am
• 1:39:21
  zach: with a 403 cubic inch, you know, yada, yada, yada, giving you all the details of the car.
• 1:39:27
  zach: It's just kind of like, look, this car can outrun the cops.
• 1:39:30
  zach: It can do cool skids. It can jump a bridge.
• 1:39:32
  zach: Like, just look at what it does. And it speaks for itself.
• 1:39:36
  Connor: And it looks great doing it. And it looks good doing it.
• 1:39:39
  bryant: I also got the sense that this could all be accomplished in whatever car Burt Reynolds was driving.
• 1:39:46
  bryant: Like, he's just, you know, supernaturally good at driving that he can make anything fast.
• 1:39:50
  zach: Yeah like he could be.
• 1:39:52
  bryant: In a you know honda civic or something and be doing the same thing.
• 1:39:56
  zach: It's it's the initial it's the initial d yes it's.
• 1:40:00
  Connor: The initial d.
• 1:40:01
  zach: Car driving wherein you know the car isn't so important it could be anything
• 1:40:06
  zach: it could be a beater a commuter car and yeah this driver is just so otherworldly
• 1:40:12
  zach: that he makes it fast yeah Yeah.
• 1:40:16
  bryant: Despite all the garbage bias ply tires they were on in this.
• 1:40:22
  zach: Which probably lended to the skids.
• 1:40:25
  brandon: It was, in fact, a 400.
• 1:40:27
  bryant: Yeah.
• 1:40:27
  Connor: Okay, it was a 400.
• 1:40:29
  brandon: The 403 didn't come out until 77. So even though they were making this look
• 1:40:34
  brandon: like a 77, it was a 76. So the 403 would not have been an option.
• 1:40:38
  Connor: Okay. All right, there you go. So it was the 400. It's about 185 horsepower,
• 1:40:42
  Connor: 320-ish foot-pounds of torque.
• 1:40:45
  Connor: I mean, the torque is good, but it's okay. I mean...
• 1:40:48
  zach: Hey, it can do 110 kilometers an hour.
• 1:40:52
  bryant: Um so would you guys recommend this movie and like what would you what would you rate it.
• 1:40:58
  Connor: Yes i.
• 1:40:58
  Evan: Gave it four stars on letterboxd so yeah.
• 1:41:01
  zach: I was gonna say eight out of ten so i i feel yeah.
• 1:41:04
  Connor: I think that's about right i i do four and four to four and a half out of five
• 1:41:09
  Connor: um you know i it was i'm gonna go with four and a half.
• 1:41:12
  brandon: Since i literally in a weird way changed my life.
• 1:41:15
  Connor: I mean this is part of the reason i bought a trans am which i was i very much
• 1:41:20
  Connor: regretted and spent a lot of money it was a very expensive mistake i think a
• 1:41:25
  Connor: lot of people made that mistake i.
• 1:41:27
  brandon: Feel like if you look come at this movie from a working class perspective this
• 1:41:34
  brandon: was literally the best that you could have ever hoped to get yeah in the air absolutely,
• 1:41:40
  brandon: Like barring you, like, yeah, there absolutely was some issues with like sexism
• 1:41:43
  brandon: and like, like, like there was racism.
• 1:41:46
  brandon: It was just being poked fun of because it was coming from the police,
• 1:41:49
  brandon: but it was still poking fun at a very fucking real thing.
• 1:41:51
  brandon: Like that dude's a racist piece of shit cop, but the movie's against him.
• 1:41:55
  Connor: Yeah, it's their portrayal. A lot of the portrayal, like there is a lot of racism
• 1:42:00
  Connor: in the movie and it's being portrayed as this is bad and not only bad, it's stupid.
• 1:42:06
  Connor: Like we're making fun of it because it's so fucking dumb.
• 1:42:10
  Connor: And for a movie from 1977, I mean, that was kind of good.
• 1:42:15
  Connor: I mean, this movie actually, I guess I hadn't ever really watched it from that
• 1:42:19
  Connor: leftist perspective, but like really taking notes, it really did have like kind of decent politics.
• 1:42:24
  Connor: And it was very anti-police. And like, not only was it just anti-police,
• 1:42:30
  Connor: it actually showed very specific real problems with the police. They are racist.
• 1:42:35
  Connor: They can lie with impunity. they can just do whatever they want to fucking random
• 1:42:40
  Connor: people and not be held accountable at all. They can ignore their jurisdictions.
• 1:42:45
  Connor: They can, you know, find another cop doing a crime and then just be like,
• 1:42:49
  Connor: Oh, don't arrest that guy actually.
• 1:42:51
  Connor: So like they actually were very specific about the things that the police do that they don't like.
• 1:42:57
  Connor: And I mean, for that, I think the film does deserve some credit. I mean, green.
• 1:43:01
  Evan: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:43:02
  zach: Yeah.
• 1:43:03
  Connor: So I'd recommend it.
• 1:43:04
  bryant: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:43:05
  brandon: Oh yeah.
• 1:43:05
  Evan: But I guess before we go, Where can people find your podcast or we already told
• 1:43:10
  Evan: everyone where it is. I guess they can go on onto the internet.
• 1:43:13
  bryant: Presumably. If you just search cars and comrades on most, any platform will, will show up.
• 1:43:18
  bryant: Um, I'm pretty sure it's and spelled out with no ampersand.
• 1:43:21
  bryant: Um, and then we're on social media as the same. Um, um,
• 1:43:26
  bryant: Not Reddit anymore. I kind of gave up on that. But Facebook,
• 1:43:30
  bryant: Instagram, Twitter, HexBear.
• 1:43:33
  zach: And YouTube now.
• 1:43:34
  brandon: Cars and Comrades, wherever podcasts are sold.
• 1:43:36
  zach: Yeah, we are on YouTube now as well.
• 1:43:38
  Evan: Does it come with a free Trans Am sticker? You gotta have a...
• 1:43:42
  zach: No, but we should absolutely make a Trans Am sticker.
• 1:43:46
  bryant: I'm sure...
• 1:43:47
  brandon: Have you not seen the Trans Am?
• 1:43:49
  zach: Yeah, we need to make a sticker of that and sell it. But we're probably not going to do that.
• 1:43:55
  Connor: Already exists yeah um i believe
• 1:43:58
  Connor: you can get it from it's a weird name i'm not gonna know it off the top of my
• 1:44:02
  Connor: head i'm sorry but you can find it it's the trans am with the trans colors and
• 1:44:07
  Connor: everything that sticker does exist it is very cool and yeah it's it's dope i'm
• 1:44:13
  Connor: i'm a big fan yeah get the get trans but not.
• 1:44:16
  Evan: A trans actual transient that'll be yeah don't.
• 1:44:18
  zach: Get a transit.
• 1:44:19
  Connor: Yeah don't go don't get a second gen probably don't get a third gen don't get a fourth gen
• 1:44:23
  Connor: either because i have a fourth gen camaro that i'm trying to sell right now
• 1:44:25
  Connor: in fact if you don't mind i'm going to take this time to sell my
• 1:44:28
  Connor: car to your listeners if anybody
• 1:44:31
  Connor: is interested in a 30th anniversary white and orange camaro ss it's a 1997 uh
• 1:44:39
  Connor: it has no problems at all i promise it's very good i have not struggled with
• 1:44:45
  Connor: it for many many years um it has a ford nine inch rear rear end cause the engine,
• 1:44:51
  Connor: the rear end blew up when I first bought it. So don't,
• 1:44:54
  Connor: It's better. It's better now. But yeah, it's listed at gateway classic cars.
• 1:44:59
  Connor: What the fuck's it called? I don't know. It's on consignment somewhere.
• 1:45:02
  Evan: Yeah.
• 1:45:03
  zach: Yeah.
• 1:45:03
  Connor: Uh, gateway classic cars. Yeah.
• 1:45:06
  zach: So, and if you believe that it has no issues, please don't listen to any of
• 1:45:10
  zach: our episodes in which we just spell that. Yeah.
• 1:45:14
  Evan: And we'll just put the link down below and no one will ever.
• 1:45:17
  Connor: It doesn't currently have any issues. I fixed them. I'm hoping there's no more,
• 1:45:21
  Connor: but I also don't care if there's any.
• 1:45:24
  Connor: so that's the deal i'm making with you if you're interested you can hit up our
• 1:45:29
  Connor: email at cars and comrades.com.
• 1:45:32
  bryant: And uh and comrades at gmail oh.
• 1:45:34
  Connor: Cars and comrades.
• 1:45:34
  bryant: Gmail.com.
• 1:45:35
  Connor: And i will definitely try and sell you this car and.
• 1:45:39
  brandon: Also if you have a cheap 76 trans am hit me up i was actually looking.
• 1:45:42
  Evan: For the other day i'll.
• 1:45:44
  bryant: Also say that i have a 2005 sob 92x aero for sale it has 200 000 miles and no
• 1:45:51
  bryant: issues at all uh but actually hopefully i have someone coming to look at it
• 1:45:55
  bryant: next week uh that wants to buy it and uh yeah sorry evan we're all gonna try
• 1:46:00
  bryant: and sell our cars now we are.
• 1:46:01
  Connor: All trying to sell cars i.
• 1:46:03
  brandon: Would just like to note that i have eight vehicles and i don't want to sell any of them they're mine.
• 1:46:07
  Evan: Well that's fucking perfect uh but zach connor yeah i bet.
• 1:46:16
  zach: You're regretting having this on now.
• 1:46:17
  Evan: I won't you won't regret it if you won't regret it if you sell your car after
• 1:46:23
  Evan: this so i'll have you uh you have to come back to that but uh brandon bryant
• 1:46:29
  Evan: connor and zach it's been a pleasure having you on and should definitely do it again definitely.
• 1:46:35
  brandon: Absolutely yeah this was a hoot yeah thank you.
• 1:46:36
  Connor: Yeah maybe one of these days we'll do uh we'll actually do fast and furious.
• 1:46:39
  Evan: Yeah that would be fun i.
• 1:46:41
  brandon: Would also do convoy movie for so many good babies.
• 1:46:43
  Evan: Hmm man.
• 1:46:45
  Connor: Someone should make a podcast about how good movies are it.
• 1:46:48
  Evan: Could be a car movie podcast that's.
• 1:46:50
  brandon: A good idea.
• 1:46:51
  Connor: And like do it from like a leftist perspective i think that would be very cool.
• 1:46:54
  Evan: Oh this is giving me a good idea for the but uh i think i'm gonna do that you.
• 1:47:00
  brandon: Want in on this uh.
• 1:47:01
  Evan: But you've been listening to the left of the projector and you can follow it
• 1:47:07
  Evan: left of the projector.com.
• 1:47:08
  brandon: We'll uh keep an eye out for my future podcast what's left of the projector actor.
• 1:47:18
  Evan: Oh, we'll catch you next time.
• 1:47:22
  bryant: Movies and comrades.