Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Monaleo and Stunna 4 Vegas On Breaking Generational Curses, Getting Married, Trauma, DaBaby + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day Up the Breakfast Club, y'all done.
- 0:07Speaker 2: It's the World More Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club,
- 0:09Speaker 2: Charlamade and the God just Hilarious. DJ Envy Envy had
- 0:12Speaker 2: to step out, but ll Cool Bay Lauren Lorosa is
- 0:14Speaker 2: here and we got some special guests. Man, Big Stunning
- 0:17Speaker 2: for Vegas, Big Monola. What's happening?
- 0:19Speaker 1: How y'all feeling? But I love your music.
- 0:28Speaker 2: By the way, I can't pronounce the title of it either.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I call it you Ain't Black, but I did study
- 0:36Speaker 2: what it was though. Solarian is a I say, I'm
- 0:38Speaker 2: saying solon.
- 0:40Speaker 3: So it's a new way to describe Black America, Black
- 0:44Speaker 3: America exactly. So it's like an interpretation of like black culture,
- 0:49Speaker 3: black history, and it relates to like descending slaves specifically.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I love.
- 0:56Speaker 3: So that's what the.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Term I want to take. Congratulations on the wedding, the
- 1:03Speaker 4: tie in, the not the baby, the family, everything. Congratulations King,
- 1:06Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Yeah, and congratulations you too, beautiful all
- 1:10Speaker 4: pink wedding. Ye, you agreed to it? Huh yeah, you
- 1:14Speaker 4: said man, happy white, happy life.
- 1:19Speaker 3: You didn't suggest agreed to it?
- 1:22Speaker 4: Okay, So that's obviously a favorite color. It's always extent
- 1:25Speaker 4: sent and all your videos, I've seen everything.
- 1:27Speaker 3: The only color that I wear.
- 1:29Speaker 5: Okay, how did you get him.
- 1:32Speaker 3: To tell him? I was like, we can compromise if
- 1:34Speaker 3: you want.
- 1:34Speaker 6: To do what you have to do all that you
- 1:37Speaker 6: feel me. I was with it right right, you have
- 1:40Speaker 6: to do all that you.
- 1:41Speaker 5: Just love but you you love us so much like
- 1:43Speaker 5: I just give her.
- 1:44Speaker 6: But I love that.
- 1:46Speaker 1: What made you finally want to want to settle down? Sir?
- 1:50Speaker 6: We're being settled down there just like we put it
- 1:52Speaker 6: on the internet just last month, being together like four
- 1:56Speaker 6: years for sure. My first year of meeting her though,
- 1:59Speaker 6: it was like kind of just taking a break, falling
- 2:02Speaker 6: back from like the or whatever anything I was going through.
- 2:07Speaker 6: She probably not, Probably she like helped me get through
- 2:11Speaker 6: whatever everything like a homeboy would, yeah experience that from
- 2:18Speaker 6: no female.
- 2:19Speaker 2: You knew she was the one immediately, Like yeah, like
- 2:22Speaker 2: you like God told you, like, man, lock this one down.
- 2:25Speaker 5: And that black woman behind you, I know that's.
- 2:28Speaker 1: How did you know he was the one?
- 2:30Speaker 6: Yeah? He was just already.
- 2:42Speaker 3: That didn't That didn't mean that I knew he was
- 2:43Speaker 3: the one when I'm I just felt like he was
- 2:46Speaker 3: very he was just as intentional as I was, and
- 2:49Speaker 3: I really appreciated that, and he took good care of
- 2:52Speaker 3: me the same way I wanted to take care of him.
- 2:53Speaker 3: So I feel like we were on the same page
- 2:56Speaker 3: at the same time.
- 2:57Speaker 5: I love that.
- 2:58Speaker 3: What was the beauty of keeping everything off the end?
- 3:00Speaker 5: Like what did it was.
- 3:02Speaker 6: On the internet. It's just like they chose to bite
- 3:05Speaker 6: down when they did. We've been popping out though, Yeah,
- 3:08Speaker 6: we've been.
- 3:09Speaker 3: But it's because just protecting our something that's personal to us.
- 3:12Speaker 3: It's something that we care about and we love. So
- 3:15Speaker 3: it was like protecting our relationship was super important. But
- 3:19Speaker 3: we both have supporters that have been with us on
- 3:22Speaker 3: our journeys, so it was important to include them in
- 3:25Speaker 3: these pivotal moments in our life, like the wedding. I
- 3:28Speaker 3: feel like that was a no brainer. Like so many
- 3:29Speaker 3: people support us and love us and have been rooting
- 3:32Speaker 3: for our union, so it was important for us to
- 3:33Speaker 3: invite them virtually to the wedding.
- 3:36Speaker 7: You had us crying, girl when you posted the moment
- 3:38Speaker 7: with your dad. I was like, I literally was like,
- 3:41Speaker 7: oh my God. And you talked about him going through
- 3:44Speaker 7: his cancer battle and getting to see you married, and
- 3:46Speaker 7: like wow, like that was really emotional for me. So
- 3:50Speaker 7: just speak to like kind of you know you because
- 3:52Speaker 7: my mom is a stage four cancer survivor and one
- 3:55Speaker 7: of the things that she's always asked me, it's.
- 4:00Speaker 3: All, why did you ask me that question?
- 4:03Speaker 5: Okay?
- 4:04Speaker 7: Hard thing is now is like she's like, I've been
- 4:08Speaker 7: sick before. I want to see you be able to
- 4:09Speaker 7: do things. I don't know if I'll be able to
- 4:11Speaker 7: be here tomorrow. So when you posted that, I was like, dang,
- 4:15Speaker 7: like time is of the essence, Like it made me
- 4:18Speaker 7: start thinking like, wow, I want my mom to be
- 4:19Speaker 7: able to see me get married and have kids. And
- 4:21Speaker 7: you know, like it's I don't think people understand the
- 4:23Speaker 7: cancer battle, how scared it gets.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Your mom will see you be successful before she sees
- 4:28Speaker 2: you get.
- 4:29Speaker 7: When I when I when I saw your posts and
- 4:35Speaker 7: I read the caption, it just really made me think
- 4:37Speaker 7: because you know, when you know, parents are always trying.
- 4:39Speaker 3: To be like superheroes always.
- 4:41Speaker 7: Yeah, so even through my mom's cancer battle, she was like,
- 4:43Speaker 7: it's going to be fine. Just make sure you get
- 4:45Speaker 7: some grand babies here because I want to see my grandbabies.
- 4:47Speaker 7: When I read that, I'm like, oh, like this is serious,
- 4:50Speaker 7: like I gotta figure this out, so serious. It was
- 4:53Speaker 7: such an important moment for me to share with my dad,
- 4:59Speaker 7: and so I'm so glad you brought that up at
- 5:01Speaker 7: the top of the interview because I can't wait for
- 5:03Speaker 7: him to hear this. But even during his cancer battle,
- 5:06Speaker 7: he was very secretive.
- 5:07Speaker 3: He was private. He didn't tell anybody for six months. Obviously,
- 5:10Speaker 3: I feel like me being kind of tapped in spiritually,
- 5:13Speaker 3: I felt like something was going on with him, but
- 5:15Speaker 3: he never had explicitly told me that he was battling cancer.
- 5:18Speaker 3: I just saw him deteriorating in a sense, like he
- 5:22Speaker 3: was getting smaller and it's his hair was going and
- 5:25Speaker 3: I was just like, Dad, what's going on with you? Like,
- 5:28Speaker 3: and he was distancing himself from me, wouldn't even him
- 5:32Speaker 3: no more. My son when't and my son loves my dad,
- 5:36Speaker 3: but he was he didn't. Every time my dad picked
- 5:38Speaker 3: him up, he would be crying, and I was just like, Dad,
- 5:40Speaker 3: something's going on. And I just kind of pressured him
- 5:43Speaker 3: a little bit and I was like, tell me what's
- 5:45Speaker 3: wrong or else. And he showed me his scans and
- 5:51Speaker 3: I could see he had it real zoomed in so
- 5:53Speaker 3: that I couldn't see that it said hoskins and foma.
- 5:55Speaker 3: But when I took his phone and I literally took
- 5:58Speaker 3: off running down the street, and I assumed and I
- 6:00Speaker 3: started to say hoskins and foam, and I'll just bust
- 6:03Speaker 3: out crying because it was such Anymore, I've never seen
- 6:05Speaker 3: my dad cough, sneeze me, either, have a cold, none
- 6:09Speaker 3: of the things. So to know that he was that
- 6:11Speaker 3: he was battling cancer without my full support really touched me.
- 6:16Speaker 3: And it really really really hurt me. But thankfully he's
- 6:20Speaker 3: beat cancer.
- 6:22Speaker 1: God.
- 6:23Speaker 3: Afterwards, he I guess the chemotherapy had done a number
- 6:26Speaker 3: on his heart, so he was he had heart failure
- 6:30Speaker 3: and he had to have a triple bypass surgery. That
- 6:32Speaker 3: he also wasn't clear about either. One thing about my dad,
- 6:35Speaker 3: he is truly superman like. He doesn't want to He
- 6:38Speaker 3: doesn't want people worried about him, even if it's something
- 6:41Speaker 3: that I should be concerned about. He doesn't want us
- 6:42Speaker 3: to be worried about him. So when I found out
- 6:45Speaker 3: what he was battling, I was so emotional and I
- 6:48Speaker 3: was so all over the place. So and I kind
- 6:51Speaker 3: of put, if I'm being candidate, put it made me
- 6:55Speaker 3: want to expedite this the process for everything, because I realized, like,
- 7:00Speaker 3: I don't know what I was waiting on. I think
- 7:01Speaker 3: it was I was feeling the pressures from society, and
- 7:04Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe I'm too young to be doing this,
- 7:05Speaker 3: and you know, you think about all these things in
- 7:07Speaker 3: your mind, and then that kind of really snapped me
- 7:09Speaker 3: back to reality and it made me live for myself
- 7:12Speaker 3: and for my family, for my village, for my community.
- 7:14Speaker 3: So it kind of made me want to expedite the
- 7:16Speaker 3: wedding process. And we did it.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And to my dad, walking on the as be there, Yeah.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Yeah, walk me down the aisle was a dream.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you Why do y'all think the adults, Oh,
- 7:35Speaker 2: the adults feel like keeping that from the kids is
- 7:38Speaker 2: the right thing to do.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Like why fight a battle like that alone?
- 7:41Speaker 5: What's scary?
- 7:42Speaker 3: It's like a nightmare. Yeah. I don't think he knew.
- 7:45Speaker 3: I think he wanted to keep hope. But he was
- 7:48Speaker 3: diagnosed as stay straight, stay straight for it, so he
- 7:52Speaker 3: I think he he was optimistic, but I truly think
- 7:55Speaker 3: he didn't know. And I think he wanted me to,
- 8:01Speaker 3: you know, focus on my tour and my career. He
- 8:07Speaker 3: didn't want me to leave and abandon what I was
- 8:10Speaker 3: doing because he knew I would have done that. Nothing
- 8:12Speaker 3: more important than me than my family.
- 8:13Speaker 7: You have a song on your mixtape, Diary of an
- 8:16Speaker 7: og and when even that song too, I was thinking
- 8:19Speaker 7: about this. You're the oldest, the oldest girl, yes, and
- 8:22Speaker 7: you talk about the responsibility of being the oldest girl
- 8:24Speaker 7: in your family and not being able to think about yourself,
- 8:26Speaker 7: and that made me think about your relationship with your
- 8:28Speaker 7: dad and everything you went through as well while having
- 8:30Speaker 7: a career. Because another thing too, I think why like
- 8:34Speaker 7: the older people hide it is because they know drop
- 8:36Speaker 7: of a dime, you're not on tour no more, You're
- 8:38Speaker 7: not dropping songs, not doing nothing.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not complying with anything career related. I would
- 8:44Speaker 3: have dropped everything to be at his side every single day,
- 8:48Speaker 3: every chemotherapy appointment. I would have been cooking his meals
- 8:51Speaker 3: every day. So to a degree, I'm grateful that he
- 8:56Speaker 3: was selfless in those moments and allowed me to continue
- 9:00Speaker 3: following what it is that I'm passionate about because he
- 9:02Speaker 3: knows I wouldn't have I wouldn't have pursued it. I
- 9:04Speaker 3: wouldn't even be here. I would have taken a complete
- 9:07Speaker 3: I wouldn't have recorded any music videos, photo shoot, nothing
- 9:10Speaker 3: would have mattered to me other than making sure that
- 9:12Speaker 3: he was okay. So I think now that time has passed,
- 9:17Speaker 3: I feel like maybe he did make the right decision
- 9:19Speaker 3: and this shit. I was upset because I was like, Dad,
- 9:21Speaker 3: I want to be there for you. This is a
- 9:23Speaker 3: really scary time in your life. And he didn't tell anybody,
- 9:26Speaker 3: not my siblings, not his mom. He didn't tell anybody
- 9:29Speaker 3: other than his wife, so it was just them too,
- 9:32Speaker 3: and she had just lost her mom, so it was
- 9:34Speaker 3: really difficult for them to manage at the time. So
- 9:39Speaker 3: I'm so and I'm glad Charlamagne that you talk about
- 9:41Speaker 3: therapy as much as you do, because he's in therapy
- 9:43Speaker 3: now and we're getting back to a place of trusting
- 9:47Speaker 3: each other and loving each other and supporting each other.
- 9:49Speaker 3: And I feel like the wedding was just a way
- 9:51Speaker 3: to extend olive branches to everybody in our village, in
- 9:54Speaker 3: our community. So I'm glad that he was there.
- 9:57Speaker 2: It's incredible how God works, because you know that once situation,
- 10:00Speaker 2: which could be deemed as negative, let to all of
- 10:02Speaker 2: this positive. You know, it said it means you put
- 10:04Speaker 2: your gas press the gas on your career and made
- 10:06Speaker 2: y'all get married.
- 10:07Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something.
- 10:08Speaker 2: When I look at y'all, man, forget to look when
- 10:10Speaker 2: I'm sitting next to y'all, I can feel it.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Yeah, family like y'all.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all are a unit. Like it's something like y'all
- 10:16Speaker 2: are supposed to be together. Like even looking at Stunt,
- 10:19Speaker 2: I'm like, I think a Proverbs eighteen twenty two man,
- 10:21Speaker 2: when a man find a good wife, man, you know
- 10:23Speaker 2: he gained a different favor from the lord. Like I
- 10:24Speaker 2: even see something different in your spirit.
- 10:26Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I do too. Already know though, because I'm like,
- 10:30Speaker 6: I'm like deeply involved to like how she is spiritually,
- 10:33Speaker 6: So I already know.
- 10:34Speaker 5: And when we saw you get emotional, right, what were
- 10:37Speaker 5: your thoughts?
- 10:38Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, I was like looking at gangsters
- 10:42Speaker 6: in the crowd crying you feel me. I was looking
- 10:45Speaker 6: at my mama, my dad that I just met, feel me,
- 10:50Speaker 6: her grandma because even her family and me alone, like
- 10:55Speaker 6: after the wedding, it's like both of our family's family now,
- 10:57Speaker 6: but like before it was, I was already like this
- 11:00Speaker 6: with her dad, Grandma, Grandpa, great grandpa all of so
- 11:05Speaker 6: I was just like getting ready for her to walk out.
- 11:09Speaker 6: You feel me, And that's what it was like, because
- 11:11Speaker 6: I was crying before she walked out, but when she did,
- 11:14Speaker 6: I was just like, damn, it's like I've been through
- 11:17Speaker 6: a lot of stuff. You feel me, And I don't
- 11:19Speaker 6: like get on the internet to public make it public.
- 11:25Speaker 6: I don't. I don't. I don't really do nothing but
- 11:29Speaker 6: deal with it. You feel me on my own too,
- 11:31Speaker 6: So it was just like all that was just like, man,
- 11:32Speaker 6: all that ship out the window, now, like this is
- 11:34Speaker 6: what I'm walking into. When she was walking down, it
- 11:37Speaker 6: was just like I'll let everything go that she wants
- 11:39Speaker 6: me to let go, stuff that I'll be mad about
- 11:43Speaker 6: one month and be fine with it the next. Like
- 11:46Speaker 6: I just let it go because it's all that mattered.
- 11:48Speaker 1: You said your father had just met Yeah, my.
- 11:51Speaker 6: Dad on Father's Day was no cap, no cap. I
- 11:55Speaker 6: met him on Father's Day. My wife got me to
- 11:58Speaker 6: do a DNA ancestory kid. We was doing that. As
- 12:04Speaker 6: we're getting ready for the wedding, I'm like, boom, I
- 12:07Speaker 6: probably ain't talked to my grandma, my mom mom in
- 12:10Speaker 6: like ten years. Ain't hugged or nothing. Uh, family too,
- 12:15Speaker 6: like uncles and aunts, but it always being me and
- 12:17Speaker 6: my mom. Like my siblings had their dad, so they'll
- 12:19Speaker 6: go live with them. If we anything, gotta go to
- 12:22Speaker 6: a shelter whatever, if it me is me and my mama.
- 12:24Speaker 6: So I'm like telling my wife, like, damn, I want
- 12:28Speaker 6: my family to be at the wedding. I want my
- 12:31Speaker 6: mama to be there with her mama, my aunt, my uncle.
- 12:33Speaker 6: Like that's how I grew up around family. Whatever I'm
- 12:39Speaker 6: doing it, we're doing the ancestry Kid. Probably a month
- 12:43Speaker 6: before we go sit down with my family, I'm like,
- 12:45Speaker 6: I'm about to sit my mom and my grandparents down,
- 12:48Speaker 6: my uncles and aunts. All that long story short, that
- 12:51Speaker 6: was like not meant to happen. And that same day
- 12:56Speaker 6: I was just like, damn, it ain't gonna never be
- 12:57Speaker 6: like what it's supposed to be with my family again.
- 13:00Speaker 6: It was like five o'clock in the morning. We was
- 13:01Speaker 6: in North Carolina because that's what we was meeting up
- 13:04Speaker 6: with everybody. My wife woke me up like, man, babe,
- 13:07Speaker 6: I'm finding your cousins right now. Like on my dad's side.
- 13:10Speaker 6: The ancestry Kid had hit like that that day the
- 13:15Speaker 6: results came back to day that I tried to sit
- 13:18Speaker 6: my mama down with her mom, brother and sister and
- 13:20Speaker 6: it went left. Then we found a few cousins. They
- 13:25Speaker 6: was telling me, you look like this guy. You look
- 13:27Speaker 6: like this guy. We went on a month trying to
- 13:30Speaker 6: find my dad, and then on follow the day we
- 13:33Speaker 6: got a.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Hired the genealogist to interpret the to interpret the ancestry
- 13:40Speaker 3: in the results, and it took her about six weeks
- 13:44Speaker 3: to give us the full report. And then when she
- 13:47Speaker 3: sent the full report back, she said that, you know,
- 13:49Speaker 3: his dad could be one of these three people and
- 13:51Speaker 3: there were three brothers, and so we kind of went
- 13:54Speaker 3: down the line and I called she had numbers listed
- 13:56Speaker 3: in emails. I reached out to everybody. Person that I
- 14:00Speaker 3: was able to contact was his grandmother. And initially they
- 14:03Speaker 3: thought it was like a scam. They were like, you know,
- 14:05Speaker 3: why are you calling us? And I was like, listen,
- 14:07Speaker 3: we don't want any we don't want child support, we
- 14:10Speaker 3: want anything. We are well off people. We just want
- 14:13Speaker 3: to mend the relationship between him and who we believe
- 14:17Speaker 3: is his dad. And so we kind of went through
- 14:21Speaker 3: the three different options. His two uncles and his dad,
- 14:24Speaker 3: and we called it. We called it, we called the
- 14:28Speaker 3: first option, and she the genealogist, had him listed as
- 14:31Speaker 3: the first option because he was the closest in age
- 14:33Speaker 3: to his mom. So we initially thought that it was
- 14:35Speaker 3: his uncle, so we FaceTime them. They didn't all the
- 14:38Speaker 3: way look alike, but they had some sort of similarity.
- 14:41Speaker 3: So we were like, hey, you know, we're just trying
- 14:42Speaker 3: to figure this out. And he was like, Hey, I
- 14:44Speaker 3: don't think it's me, but it might be my brother
- 14:46Speaker 3: because I think he looks more like my brother. And
- 14:48Speaker 3: then we FaceTime, we know, FaceTime with him later on
- 14:51Speaker 3: Father's Day, and when at his grandmother's house and him
- 14:57Speaker 3: and his dad, they looked just alike and the synergy
- 14:59Speaker 3: was their immediate and we flew out the next day.
- 15:01Speaker 3: He's from these dads from Detroit. We flew out the
- 15:03Speaker 3: next day. We met his dad, We met the rest
- 15:07Speaker 3: of his family, and his dad was his siblings. He
- 15:09Speaker 3: found out he had two a brother and a sister
- 15:11Speaker 3: that he didn't know about. So this has been almost
- 15:16Speaker 3: thirty years that he didn't know his dad. So to
- 15:19Speaker 3: be able for them to be able to reconnect right
- 15:21Speaker 3: before the wedding was so it was a lot of
- 15:23Speaker 3: emotions going on. When people see the clip, they think
- 15:26Speaker 3: it's like, oh, he just up there tore up about
- 15:28Speaker 3: his wife, And I think that to a degree, he
- 15:29Speaker 3: was emotional, but there were so many different things going on.
- 15:33Speaker 3: There were so many different reasons for us to be
- 15:35Speaker 3: happy crying that day.
- 15:37Speaker 1: So how whole that made you feel?
- 15:40Speaker 6: Son, I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I
- 15:46Speaker 6: don't know yet.
- 15:49Speaker 5: That's honest. That's honest.
- 15:50Speaker 4: The conversations with you and your dad, are they like
- 15:54Speaker 4: what you dreamed of or did you want like you know,
- 15:56Speaker 4: were you nervousy with this whole process?
- 15:59Speaker 6: Nah? I don't think so.
- 16:01Speaker 3: I feel like I think there were a little bit
- 16:04Speaker 3: of nerves.
- 16:05Speaker 6: Yeah, But I'm just like a difficult person to deal with.
- 16:08Speaker 6: So I don't know. I mean, like, you know, like
- 16:12Speaker 6: I mean, like as far as nothing like against my
- 16:15Speaker 6: dad though, But I just don't I don't know. I
- 16:18Speaker 6: don't know how it made me feel. Sometimes he called
- 16:20Speaker 6: he gonna see this and be like sometimes the call
- 16:23Speaker 6: and I might not even know like what we should
- 16:26Speaker 6: talk about, so I might not ask and I call
- 16:30Speaker 6: her dad though immediately yeah, like whatever, as soon as
- 16:34Speaker 6: we leave out of here, I'm gonna call him probably
- 16:36Speaker 6: like or he gonna call me. We talked. It's like
- 16:38Speaker 6: we got the relationship that I was like looking for
- 16:42Speaker 6: for a long time because I was in there with
- 16:44Speaker 6: him when she when she was at work. I was
- 16:46Speaker 6: going to chemotherapy or I'll be whatever I need. He
- 16:49Speaker 6: gonna pick up, he gonna drop whatever I asked him
- 16:52Speaker 6: to drop for me right then and there. So he
- 16:54Speaker 6: kind of like build the void before my dad could
- 16:58Speaker 6: come in and like feel it. But it was just
- 17:01Speaker 6: good also to meet my dad and I see like
- 17:03Speaker 6: we look alike. He looked, my son look like him.
- 17:06Speaker 6: You feel me, We walk alike. I met my grandma,
- 17:09Speaker 6: I got a sister, my age, You feel me.
- 17:11Speaker 2: But you learn a lot about yourself though, because you
- 17:12Speaker 2: could be dealing with physical health issues, mental health issues,
- 17:16Speaker 2: and not even nowhere but your dad might have been
- 17:19Speaker 2: dealing with it. You learned a lot about yourself when
- 17:20Speaker 2: you connect those dots.
- 17:21Speaker 3: You think it was a nerve wreaking experience too, like
- 17:24Speaker 3: just for me trying to facilitate, I was really nervous
- 17:28Speaker 3: because I didn't know how his dad would receive him
- 17:32Speaker 3: and receive the situation as a whole. I was just
- 17:35Speaker 3: hoping that he wanted to connect as badly as Sonna
- 17:41Speaker 3: wanted to connect. That was my main goal, I guess
- 17:46Speaker 3: in my mind, because you never really know how people
- 17:47Speaker 3: will receive things. Some people will be like, oh no,
- 17:49Speaker 3: I'm not dealing with this, it's too much. But I
- 17:52Speaker 3: think it's been difficult for both of them to process it,
- 17:55Speaker 3: and his dad as well, like how do you really
- 17:58Speaker 3: process having a son and not knowing that you had
- 18:00Speaker 3: a son for almost thirty years and then he's an artist.
- 18:04Speaker 3: But he was telling us too. He was like, I've
- 18:07Speaker 3: seen him before, I know his music. He was able
- 18:09Speaker 3: to tell us some of the songs that he did
- 18:10Speaker 3: that he really liked. So it was just like I
- 18:14Speaker 3: could tell he was stunned. Yeah, he had no idea though,
- 18:18Speaker 3: because if you look him up he's from you will
- 18:21Speaker 3: see that he's from North Carolina. His dad had never
- 18:23Speaker 3: been to North Carolina. He had met his mom in
- 18:25Speaker 3: Atlanta and they were young. Things happened, they moved apart,
- 18:31Speaker 3: she was pregnant, she moved back home to North Carolina
- 18:34Speaker 3: to kind of go throughout her pregnancy. So it was
- 18:36Speaker 3: like there was never really he never really knew anything
- 18:42Speaker 3: about him so I imagine that that's a lot for
- 18:44Speaker 3: him to process as well, and his mom as well too,
- 18:47Speaker 3: because I know that she lives with some of those
- 18:49Speaker 3: feelings and like, you know, just being young and being
- 18:52Speaker 3: a human being and making mistakes, but not really a
- 18:54Speaker 3: mistake because I needed him, so it's not I don't
- 18:57Speaker 3: perceive it as a mistake. So it was like, it's
- 19:00Speaker 3: a lot for everybody to process in this experience. So
- 19:03Speaker 3: I'm just trying to be the glue in this situation
- 19:07Speaker 3: and keep us all close, keep us connected, and keep
- 19:10Speaker 3: us in this healing process.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Generational crust breaking moment, I'm just.
- 19:19Speaker 3: General some generational curse breakers. I love that, And that's where.
- 19:24Speaker 6: We live, that's what that's what we stand on.
- 19:28Speaker 3: That's what we swear by. Where does that come from?
- 19:30Speaker 7: Because in your music, yes, are you raised that way
- 19:36Speaker 7: that something like where does it come from?
- 19:37Speaker 3: For sure? I have a family full of matriarchs, full
- 19:40Speaker 3: of very strong matriarchs, my mother, both of my grandmothers,
- 19:44Speaker 3: my stepmother. I have a family full of women who
- 19:47Speaker 3: are the glue for their families. So I have a
- 19:49Speaker 3: really good example of like how to keep a family together.
- 19:54Speaker 3: And I think they've done a lot for our family,
- 19:58Speaker 3: but it's with me. I feel like my purpose is
- 20:01Speaker 3: to usher in change and bring about a certain type
- 20:08Speaker 3: of energy that it's real and that's raw, and that's unapologetic.
- 20:12Speaker 3: And if that means we often to put our mess
- 20:16Speaker 3: on the table, that's what we have to do so
- 20:19Speaker 3: that we can really get somewhere. Because I love my
- 20:22Speaker 3: son with everything in me, and I don't want him
- 20:25Speaker 3: to experience half of the things that I experience growing up.
- 20:28Speaker 3: I want him to have a pure, a pure life,
- 20:33Speaker 3: and so I want to if that means uncovering everybody's
- 20:35Speaker 3: secrets and just my son deserves to know his grandparents,
- 20:40Speaker 3: his grandfather, He deserves to have a relationship with everybody
- 20:44Speaker 3: that is healthy. So whatever I have to do to
- 20:48Speaker 3: bring in these healthy relationships, I'm willing to do.
- 20:50Speaker 1: All I want to do. All I want to do
- 20:52Speaker 1: is raise trauma free kids.
- 20:53Speaker 3: That's all I want to do.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Please God, is give me the power and the ability
- 20:57Speaker 2: to raise or trauma free young lady.
- 20:59Speaker 3: Please.
- 21:00Speaker 1: That's it.
- 21:01Speaker 3: That's odd because I can only imagine what that looks like.
- 21:04Speaker 3: I can't imagine what that will look like on my
- 21:06Speaker 3: son as an adult. I can't wait to see you know,
- 21:10Speaker 3: the fruits of my labor. I can't wait to see
- 21:13Speaker 3: how he grows up to be. And like, I don't
- 21:16Speaker 3: really know very many people in my life, just as
- 21:18Speaker 3: a young Black American, Southern Black American girl, I don't
- 21:21Speaker 3: know many people in my life who haven't experienced some
- 21:24Speaker 3: sort of trauma. So I'm excited to see what that
- 21:27Speaker 3: looks like on him. And I just want him to
- 21:29Speaker 3: be everything that he wants to be, an astronaut or
- 21:32Speaker 3: school bus drop, whatever you want to be. I just
- 21:34Speaker 3: want to be here to facilitate that in the healthiest way.
- 21:37Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 21:38Speaker 5: Now, are you in therapy? It stunning?
- 21:40Speaker 2: No, but.
- 21:43Speaker 6: Mm hmm. I'll be talking to her so I'll be like,
- 21:45Speaker 6: I don't really need that type of stuff because like
- 21:48Speaker 6: she can get me to a point where I'm not
- 21:51Speaker 6: mentally like out of it. Yeah, so I'll be like
- 21:54Speaker 6: kind of like, maybe I don't need it like that.
- 21:57Speaker 3: We've tried. We tried therapy, though we have. We did
- 21:59Speaker 3: pre counseling before we got married, and then you did
- 22:03Speaker 3: your own individual therapy before we did premieral counseling. You did. Yeah,
- 22:09Speaker 3: a start, It's a start. It takes a minute to
- 22:12Speaker 3: get people. I grew up hospitalized in different mental health institutions,
- 22:19Speaker 3: and I grew up in therapy. I really struggled with
- 22:21Speaker 3: my mental health growing up, so that was kind of
- 22:23Speaker 3: It's not that it was normalized. But my grandmother, she
- 22:27Speaker 3: works at a mental health hospital, so she was always diagnosing,
- 22:31Speaker 3: and you know, I grew up taking medication, like I
- 22:33Speaker 3: really grew up trying to fix whatever was wrong with me.
- 22:38Speaker 3: So that's something that was normal for me. But when
- 22:41Speaker 3: we got in our relationship, it wasn't really a thing
- 22:43Speaker 3: that was talked about with him. So I try to
- 22:45Speaker 3: encourage him to do therapy, and I think he's coming
- 22:50Speaker 3: around to it, for sure. It's not that he's anti therapy.
- 22:52Speaker 3: I think he's coming around to it for sure. But
- 22:54Speaker 3: I think his main priority is just surviving.
- 22:58Speaker 1: So and you got to find the right therapist.
- 23:02Speaker 6: I feel like that.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Too. But I think we've we've really reached a point
- 23:07Speaker 3: of like bliss and happiness currently, like we're really in
- 23:12Speaker 3: a really happy space. But I know therapy is preventative,
- 23:16Speaker 3: so it's not necessarily reactive like some I don't think
- 23:20Speaker 3: feel like something has to happen and then you go
- 23:21Speaker 3: to therapy. I think you should be in therapy period,
- 23:24Speaker 3: just to process what it is that you've experienced in
- 23:27Speaker 3: your life. But we're slowly but surely we're coming around
- 23:30Speaker 3: to it. But I'm really proud of him for the man,
- 23:32Speaker 3: and he's become his sobriety journey. Like there's so many
- 23:37Speaker 3: things that people don't.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Come ahead and bring me the big bottle and head
- 23:40Speaker 1: to see them.
- 23:40Speaker 3: No, no, no, not liquor, sir.
- 23:48Speaker 6: I used to do that every day before I ate,
- 23:50Speaker 6: like real talk and not saying I don't know, like
- 23:54Speaker 6: making it cool. Yeah, because even when I was doing that,
- 23:57Speaker 6: I don't think I was making it cool. I think
- 23:58Speaker 6: I was like doing therapy. Yeah, And when I met her,
- 24:02Speaker 6: I kind of found out that, like, damn, that's all
- 24:04Speaker 6: that was because of Medicaid. I started going to the gym,
- 24:07Speaker 6: I want to pick up a pert or bottle or
- 24:10Speaker 6: nothing like. Even now I don't like to drink unless
- 24:13Speaker 6: I'm with her.
- 24:16Speaker 7: That sounds crazy, that's so bad, No, but he's yeah, yeah.
- 24:22Speaker 6: Yeah, I do.
- 24:23Speaker 2: What did stunt to do that made you feel so
- 24:26Speaker 2: safe and protected?
- 24:28Speaker 3: I think he showed this level of care that I
- 24:32Speaker 3: hadn't experienced yet. Yeah, that Southern hospitality that I hadn't
- 24:38Speaker 3: experienced yet. Like I said, I grew, I grew. I
- 24:40Speaker 3: went through a lot growing up. I was abused. Please
- 24:44Speaker 3: put a trigger winning on this too, because I don't
- 24:46Speaker 3: I'm not here to trauma dump. But I'm just being
- 24:49Speaker 3: candid because I prayed for this opportunity to get on
- 24:52Speaker 3: Breakfast Club. I actually wrote it in my journal five
- 24:54Speaker 3: years ago. I wrote this in my journal, I will
- 24:56Speaker 3: be on Breakfast Club before I was even putting music out.
- 24:58Speaker 3: So I'm just making sure that I do my due
- 25:02Speaker 3: diligence to my younger self because I told myself I
- 25:05Speaker 3: was going to be here, and I'm here, and I
- 25:06Speaker 3: want us to see us this opportunity to be candid
- 25:09Speaker 3: and clear and concise. I went through a lot growing up,
- 25:13Speaker 3: so and I feel like there was a lot of neglect.
- 25:17Speaker 3: And that's not to shame anyone or shame my parents,
- 25:21Speaker 3: but they were young and they were learning, and my
- 25:24Speaker 3: experience is my experience, and what happened to me happened
- 25:28Speaker 3: to me, and I can't erase that. So I want
- 25:31Speaker 3: to be clear about that too, because sometimes I feel
- 25:33Speaker 3: like when you talk about certain things, especially in the
- 25:36Speaker 3: black community, it's like what happens in the house stays
- 25:39Speaker 3: in the house, and I want to free myself from
- 25:42Speaker 3: those experiences as I grow into this woman that I'm becoming.
- 25:46Speaker 3: I experienced some things, some abuse, things happened to me
- 25:49Speaker 3: that should have never happened to me. So when I
- 25:51Speaker 3: met him and I didn't feel taken advantage of. I
- 25:56Speaker 3: felt celebrated, I felt appreciated, and I felt valued. Yeah,
- 26:02Speaker 3: so that made me feel like this is where I belong,
- 26:07Speaker 3: this is where I should be in his family, they
- 26:10Speaker 3: were receptive. We went through our things, but we they
- 26:14Speaker 3: reminded me a lot of my family. So we have
- 26:17Speaker 3: so many similarities that we shared and I was just like,
- 26:19Speaker 3: this feels like home for me.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Since we having this conversation, Is it true that you
- 26:27Speaker 2: attempted suicide in the fourth grade?
- 26:30Speaker 6: Hm?
- 26:33Speaker 5: Hm, there's a baby, you're a baby.
- 26:40Speaker 6: Yeah, there's more. She donet been through. I go down
- 26:45Speaker 6: the list myself.
- 26:46Speaker 5: She doesn't.
- 26:49Speaker 6: Through a lot. That was another thing that when I
- 26:52Speaker 6: got around, she wasn't like trauma dumping on me, but
- 26:56Speaker 6: it was like, she'll be telling me stuff and I'd
- 26:59Speaker 6: be like, man, I was just with you as four
- 27:02Speaker 6: five niggas over there. Yeah, Like in North Carolina. We
- 27:06Speaker 6: could see a bum getting be a woman and we're
- 27:09Speaker 6: gonna go do something to the man or taken advantage
- 27:11Speaker 6: of I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying like that's what
- 27:15Speaker 6: made me be like man, not not even that. I
- 27:19Speaker 6: just wanted to protect myself. I just wanted to show,
- 27:21Speaker 6: like I saw the God, that shit won't happen again,
- 27:23Speaker 6: Like you don't have to do that, you won't have
- 27:25Speaker 6: to do this, wi't nobody come looking for you, want
- 27:27Speaker 6: nobody put in none of that, it will ever happen again.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very protective, but yeah that I was.
- 27:34Speaker 3: I don't know, well, I guess I was. I was
- 27:37Speaker 3: experiencing a lot as a kid that I really couldn't process,
- 27:42Speaker 3: and I knew it didn't feel good. I didn't know
- 27:45Speaker 3: exactly what was happening, but I knew it was like
- 27:47Speaker 3: this feels wrong to me. And I really struggled with
- 27:53Speaker 3: my self worth, my self confidence, and I was just
- 27:56Speaker 3: like why am I here? And I was feeling like
- 27:58Speaker 3: that very young, very young fourth grade I I, that's true,
- 28:03Speaker 3: that's my that was my earliest Well, third grade is
- 28:07Speaker 3: when those feelings started, and then fourth grade is when
- 28:09Speaker 3: I like started like, Okay, let me figure out what
- 28:13Speaker 3: I can do to not be here anymore. So it
- 28:16Speaker 3: started in fourth grade and then it progressed through middle
- 28:19Speaker 3: school through high school. But I'm so grateful that I
- 28:24Speaker 3: don't feel that way anymore. Tru I think residually those
- 28:31Speaker 3: feelings that kind of come up, cause it was so
- 28:33Speaker 3: much of my life I was. I just kind of
- 28:36Speaker 3: got accustomed to feeling to you know, I had indoctrinated
- 28:40Speaker 3: all of these negative feelings and thoughts about myself. So
- 28:43Speaker 3: it got to a point where I was like, this
- 28:44Speaker 3: is my being, this is my core being. I don't
- 28:46Speaker 3: like who I am. Y, this is to the core.
- 28:49Speaker 3: I hate who I am and what people have done
- 28:53Speaker 3: to me. And I felt like I deserved it at
- 28:58Speaker 3: a point in time, but I know that's not true now.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Trauma is never your fault, but never your healing is
- 29:04Speaker 2: your responsibility.
- 29:04Speaker 3: So healing is my responsibility.
- 29:06Speaker 2: When was that pivot? When did you realize like I
- 29:08Speaker 2: got it, I got to heal.
- 29:10Speaker 3: I think I got to a point where I was like,
- 29:12Speaker 3: I'm tired of feeling this way about myself, Like there
- 29:16Speaker 3: has to be more to life for me than just
- 29:19Speaker 3: waking up every day and hating my existence. There has
- 29:22Speaker 3: to be more to life. And I started journaling because
- 29:27Speaker 3: I had already gone through therapy, and in my mind,
- 29:29Speaker 3: I told myself, therapy doesn't work, this medication doesn't work.
- 29:34Speaker 3: A lot of it was what do you call it,
- 29:38Speaker 3: like hardwired? So my grandmother struggle with her own battles,
- 29:44Speaker 3: my mother struggle, my siblings struggle. It's kind of like
- 29:48Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's hereditary, but maybe it is.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Maybe it's hereditary. So it was like it got to
- 29:56Speaker 3: a point where I was like, I can't do this anymore,
- 29:58Speaker 3: Like I want to. I see everybody in in their life.
- 30:00Speaker 3: I'm ready to enjoy my life. I'm ready to experience
- 30:03Speaker 3: it and a lens that isn't coming from this trauma,
- 30:08Speaker 3: Like I want to see what life really has for me.
- 30:11Speaker 3: And I started journaling. I started making music in that
- 30:14Speaker 3: process and really venting my frustrations and just kind of
- 30:20Speaker 3: journaling via this rap bea rap, And it started off
- 30:26Speaker 3: as rap. I never thought I was gonna be a rapper,
- 30:27Speaker 3: but it started off with rap because I was in
- 30:29Speaker 3: that angry phase of my healing. I was just mad
- 30:33Speaker 3: at the world, mad at everybody for letting me down,
- 30:35Speaker 3: mad at my parents, mad at people who did things
- 30:38Speaker 3: to me, just mad at everybody. It was everybody's fault.
- 30:41Speaker 3: So RAP was like my first real outlet because I
- 30:46Speaker 3: was able to vent these frustrations in a very aggressive way.
- 30:50Speaker 3: And it still helps me though to this day. Like
- 30:51Speaker 3: I still will make a real aggressive record, but I
- 30:56Speaker 3: feel like it's helping me come to a calmer place
- 30:59Speaker 3: in the weird it's way. It's like this weird juxtaposition.
- 31:01Speaker 3: I'll make the most aggressive song and I'm like, all right,
- 31:03Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm chilling for the rest. I could chill now.
- 31:06Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
- 31:07Speaker 6: Now.
- 31:08Speaker 4: You said your grandmother she worked in a mental institution.
- 31:11Speaker 4: Yeah so, And you said she even had her own
- 31:14Speaker 4: as well. Do you think there was some correlation between
- 31:17Speaker 4: where she was working or do you think.
- 31:19Speaker 5: That was I think she grew up too.
- 31:22Speaker 3: I think it's just generational, generational curses. Her mother had
- 31:26Speaker 3: her at fourteen, my great grandmother, And she said, my
- 31:29Speaker 3: great grandmother is still alive to this day. Thank god,
- 31:31Speaker 3: she was here. She was here during the wedding. She
- 31:34Speaker 3: had her at fourteen, so God knows what she experienced.
- 31:37Speaker 5: Gotcha, and you have had these conversations with her.
- 31:40Speaker 3: I've had these conversations with everybody. I'm one of them.
- 31:42Speaker 3: People were gonna talk. Yeah, I'm gonna talk with my
- 31:44Speaker 3: whole family because I want to get down to the
- 31:46Speaker 3: bottom of why do we act this way? What's happening? Like,
- 31:49Speaker 3: what has made us behave this way? And then she
- 31:53Speaker 3: did her part, but she kind of I feel like
- 31:55Speaker 3: she kind of ran to a degree, like she left,
- 31:58Speaker 3: she left her hometown, She went to college, and she
- 32:01Speaker 3: really put a lot of effort into her studies and
- 32:04Speaker 3: she works. She's a workaholic. To this day. She refuses
- 32:07Speaker 3: to retire and she's had two strokes. She refuses to
- 32:10Speaker 3: retire because she just I notices her way of coping
- 32:15Speaker 3: with everything that it is that she deals with the
- 32:17Speaker 3: pressures in the stresses of being a matriarch. And then
- 32:21Speaker 3: I feel like that trickled down to my mom. And
- 32:24Speaker 3: my mom struggled with her own battles growing up and
- 32:28Speaker 3: even as an adult. And I feel like as an adult,
- 32:30Speaker 3: her having me caught the I caught the the I
- 32:38Speaker 3: caught a little bit of what she was struggling with,
- 32:42Speaker 3: you know. And that's not too that's to humanize her,
- 32:45Speaker 3: if anything, because I feel like we especially young Black girls,
- 32:48Speaker 3: oldest girls, oldest Black girls there human they were, they
- 32:52Speaker 3: would hear me and they would understand where I'm coming
- 32:54Speaker 3: from as an older as an older sister, you are
- 33:00Speaker 3: kind of you're adultified and you don't really get to
- 33:07Speaker 3: experience your childhood the way that you're supposed to. And
- 33:11Speaker 3: I always feel like that And it was because of,
- 33:15Speaker 3: like I said, my mom was struggling with her own things.
- 33:19Speaker 3: And I hope when she hears this, she knows that
- 33:23Speaker 3: it's not too pass judgment on her. I love my mother,
- 33:28Speaker 3: that's like she's my baby. I love her, and it's
- 33:32Speaker 3: not to be judgmental towards her, but it's just to
- 33:35Speaker 3: open up the space to have these conversations that are
- 33:39Speaker 3: so uncomfortable to have. But I want her to know
- 33:42Speaker 3: that I'm proud of her for doing what she could
- 33:48Speaker 3: with us. And I think things happen in the process
- 33:50Speaker 3: and all we can do is move forward and heal
- 33:57Speaker 3: and learn to love each other through through raw struggles,
- 34:01Speaker 3: through our mishaps. So I think it's been passed down
- 34:06Speaker 3: from generation the generation, but it definitely stops with me.
- 34:10Speaker 6: Trauma.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Trauma runs in your family till it runs into you
- 34:13Speaker 2: running me, and I believe that our parents they would
- 34:16Speaker 2: have they were just trying to survive.
- 34:18Speaker 1: I feel like.
- 34:19Speaker 2: We're the general We're the first generation that has the
- 34:21Speaker 2: luxury of healing. Like you know, they didn't have the
- 34:24Speaker 2: resources and that that that that that we got. We
- 34:29Speaker 2: weren't talking about anxiety and depression.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Then, and these resources are readily available to us, and
- 34:36Speaker 3: they're promoted almost. I feel like I've seen a rise
- 34:39Speaker 3: in people promoting taking care of your mental health and
- 34:42Speaker 3: I love that. And I also have my own organization,
- 34:45Speaker 3: Stay One More Day, where I promote people healing and
- 34:48Speaker 3: focusing on staying another day. Until you get to a
- 34:51Speaker 3: point where you're happy to be here.
- 34:53Speaker 4: Well, you're definitely supposed to be here. I think it
- 34:57Speaker 4: was God's plan for you not to take your life
- 34:59Speaker 4: and the grade at eight years old. You are a baby,
- 35:02Speaker 4: you know, So I'm glad that you are here. And
- 35:04Speaker 4: then you're breaking generational curses. So when you got pregnant,
- 35:10Speaker 4: what was that like? Because now you're a mother, you know,
- 35:13Speaker 4: and you replayed things in your mind like, oh my god,
- 35:17Speaker 4: I grew up this way.
- 35:18Speaker 5: I'm not going to allow my son or my daughter
- 35:20Speaker 5: because you didn't know what you were having at that time.
- 35:21Speaker 3: Don't didn't know to deal with but I kind of
- 35:23Speaker 3: knew to a degree because I had a dream. One
- 35:25Speaker 3: thing about me, I'm a dreamer. I feel like my
- 35:28Speaker 3: these spirits that come to me in these dreams. My friends.
- 35:31Speaker 3: I had a dream and my homegirl who passed away,
- 35:32Speaker 3: her them is saving. She told me in a dream
- 35:34Speaker 3: that I was pregnant and that I was having a
- 35:36Speaker 3: boy the month that I conceived my son. So I
- 35:39Speaker 3: feel like I kind of you.
- 35:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I told him that the regular dream like became
- 35:44Speaker 6: my dream last night and told me we were having
- 35:45Speaker 6: a boy.
- 35:46Speaker 5: Yeah, so y'all planned baby boy?
- 35:48Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we did because we had a candidly speaking,
- 35:52Speaker 3: we had a miscarriage first about nine months before then.
- 35:57Speaker 3: And that also, and I'll talk about this a lot too.
- 36:00Speaker 3: And also it's like I talk about a lot of shit.
- 36:02Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be the spokesperson for anything either.
- 36:05Speaker 3: I want to make that very clear. I'm telling you,
- 36:07Speaker 3: I'm just detailing my experiences.
- 36:09Speaker 5: So I don't want to which is gonna help.
- 36:11Speaker 3: It's gonna help. It's gonna help because you don't realize
- 36:14Speaker 3: how many people go through these things until you meet
- 36:16Speaker 3: somebody who's ready to talk about it, and I'm ready
- 36:18Speaker 3: to talk about it. There was a lot of I
- 36:21Speaker 3: had been told that I had these cysts, and then
- 36:25Speaker 3: I went to I got multiple different evaluations. They were like, oh, yeah,
- 36:28Speaker 3: you have assist. It's five centimeters six six centimeters. It
- 36:31Speaker 3: needs to be removed immediately. And then other people, other
- 36:33Speaker 3: doctors were like, oh, I don't see any cists. So
- 36:36Speaker 3: it was just like it was so much going on
- 36:39Speaker 3: at the time. So when I found out that I
- 36:41Speaker 3: was pregnant with my son, I was very protective over
- 36:44Speaker 3: that process and I didn't even announce that I was
- 36:46Speaker 3: pregnant until I was eight months. And then when we
- 36:49Speaker 3: had them, we had a home birth at Amazing, had
- 36:52Speaker 3: it in our kitchen, and my grandmother was there, My
- 36:54Speaker 3: mother was there, both my grandmother's actually his mom was there,
- 36:58Speaker 3: his sisters, my brother was they're his brothers. My dad
- 37:04Speaker 3: was there. It was a whole and it was a
- 37:07Speaker 3: very strange experience because it was such a vulnerable experience
- 37:11Speaker 3: for me. But again, it was one of those things
- 37:15Speaker 3: that was like, I feel like I feel called to
- 37:17Speaker 3: do this because my mother and my grandmother, they both
- 37:20Speaker 3: my mother had all sea sections with all her kids.
- 37:22Speaker 3: They told her she was she would never be able
- 37:24Speaker 3: to deliver naturally or like vaginantly. They told her she
- 37:28Speaker 3: would never be able to do that. By the way,
- 37:31Speaker 3: it's a lot.
- 37:31Speaker 1: They told my wife that for her second daughter, and
- 37:33Speaker 1: she had next to.
- 37:35Speaker 3: They told me the same thing. They told me the
- 37:37Speaker 3: same thing, literally told me the same thing. And then
- 37:39Speaker 3: my grandmother she almost died having my mom. She only
- 37:41Speaker 3: has one child, which is my mom, and she almost
- 37:44Speaker 3: died having nurse SOEs she never had any other kids.
- 37:46Speaker 3: So it was important for me to heal that trauma
- 37:48Speaker 3: for the matriarchs in my family and show them that
- 37:51Speaker 3: because when I first told them, they were like, what
- 37:53Speaker 3: are you thinking about? Like you canna have a baby
- 37:55Speaker 3: at home? Are you sure?
- 37:56Speaker 6: They were telling her that she needed to she might
- 38:00Speaker 6: have to do Session two.
- 38:01Speaker 3: Yeah, they were telling me, and the doctors were telling
- 38:04Speaker 3: me that I shouldn't. But I don't want to advise
- 38:08Speaker 3: anybody against any doctor's orders, because there are doctors out
- 38:11Speaker 3: there that are diligent and that are thorough with the
- 38:14Speaker 3: work that they do. But again, I'm just going off
- 38:18Speaker 3: of what I feel called to do, and very early
- 38:21Speaker 3: on within like the first six or twelve weeks of
- 38:23Speaker 3: me being pregnant with my son, I was like going back.
- 38:25Speaker 1: And for it.
- 38:26Speaker 3: I was like, Noah, I'm doing a home birth.
- 38:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:28Speaker 3: So I got a midwife, I got a doula, and
- 38:30Speaker 3: I have my family.
- 38:31Speaker 1: That's what we got to do it for third and fourth.
- 38:35Speaker 5: That's the best way.
- 38:35Speaker 3: I had natural births or y'all just had a duel
- 38:38Speaker 3: at the hospital to advocate for y'all.
- 38:40Speaker 1: My wife had a natural birth, not because she wanted to.
- 38:43Speaker 3: On the third one was it was happening so fast.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Yeah, there was something going on with the hospital where
- 38:47Speaker 2: it was. She always gets I tell the story wrong,
- 38:49Speaker 2: but if something they couldn't get the abadoros or something
- 38:51Speaker 2: like that. So she ended up having a natural but
- 38:52Speaker 2: she we just decided to get a do it for
- 38:54Speaker 2: the third and fourth because it's so hard when black
- 38:55Speaker 2: women go to the hospital, like you can't play with
- 38:57Speaker 2: that the way the black maternal death rad is actly.
- 39:01Speaker 3: So that was all that was on my mind. I
- 39:03Speaker 3: wanted to take care of myself.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 39:05Speaker 4: So now you got your music, yep, and then you
- 39:08Speaker 4: you turn your you know, your pain into a beautiful
- 39:12Speaker 4: you know, oh.
- 39:13Speaker 1: You know y'all got something in common. Then you study
- 39:14Speaker 1: mortuary science.
- 39:15Speaker 3: I did, okay, just a mortuary all. What you study
- 39:21Speaker 3: mortual science?
- 39:22Speaker 5: Girl, I went for one semester and I couldn't do it.
- 39:25Speaker 3: It was too much.
- 39:25Speaker 5: It was too much, the whole embovement. And then you know,
- 39:28Speaker 5: limbs's alive.
- 39:29Speaker 1: If you do too much, they jump.
- 39:32Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, fart, that would happen, like all the screamed,
- 39:37Speaker 3: they let the noises, they let.
- 39:41Speaker 2: It.
- 39:41Speaker 3: Yeah. The nerves are like settling basically, so they jerk
- 39:44Speaker 3: and they move and they all and.
- 39:48Speaker 4: Then everybody is the one and you're working and you chilling,
- 39:51Speaker 4: and you going break and you got your back turn
- 39:53Speaker 4: and then you look, you see I can give somebody
- 39:55Speaker 4: seeing up.
- 39:55Speaker 5: It's a little you know, and then like.
- 39:59Speaker 1: The dead body sit up.
- 40:00Speaker 3: No, I did not see it. When I was in
- 40:02Speaker 3: mortuary school. They were, they had they told us that
- 40:04Speaker 3: was a possibility, But I never seen that personally. But
- 40:08Speaker 3: I have seen, like you know, bodies jerk and move
- 40:10Speaker 3: and make these noises and these liquids to come out.
- 40:13Speaker 3: Like I've seen the whole thing.
- 40:15Speaker 5: And so you actually went through the whole thing.
- 40:18Speaker 3: I didn't graduate because I started rapping midway through and
- 40:22Speaker 3: I was like, all right, bet, I'm doing this one.
- 40:24Speaker 5: I didn't graduate because I got scared.
- 40:27Speaker 3: I understand it was.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Working at the mortuary first of all.
- 40:31Speaker 3: No, but you have to you have to internship during
- 40:34Speaker 3: your school. By the time you graduate, you have to
- 40:36Speaker 3: have been done or else you can't graduate. You have
- 40:39Speaker 3: to finish your internship. So you do it while you're in.
- 40:41Speaker 5: School, right, to get your hours, to get your.
- 40:44Speaker 3: Hours yet yeah, yeah.
- 40:47Speaker 7: Because you started with Life after Death and then it
- 40:52Speaker 7: just and then who did the Body? I was like,
- 40:53Speaker 7: what is her thing with like life after Death? Literally
- 40:57Speaker 7: like it's kind of all centered around it and it's
- 40:59Speaker 7: very like church, cheap Baptist.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Church, it is exactly.
- 41:02Speaker 7: I'm like, it feels like a funeral at first, and
- 41:05Speaker 7: then it goes into a whole different world.
- 41:07Speaker 3: Exactly I did. I did so culturally I feel like
- 41:11Speaker 3: this project for me culturally who did the body? You know,
- 41:13Speaker 3: when black people go to a funeral, if the body
- 41:15Speaker 3: looked good or bad? Where I was like, who did
- 41:17Speaker 3: the body? To see? Which were home? Never who did
- 41:28Speaker 3: the body? Like it's one of the two. So culturally
- 41:30Speaker 3: it was living but also like like I was just
- 41:32Speaker 3: talking about I had so many I've just had a
- 41:34Speaker 3: really weird experience with life, and I've also had weird
- 41:39Speaker 3: experiences with death. So this project for me was kind
- 41:42Speaker 3: of liberating me in that sense and freeing me from
- 41:45Speaker 3: the fears of death. But we're all and just also
- 41:47Speaker 3: talking about just opening up that conversation about grief in
- 41:51Speaker 3: our community and insurance and that type of stuff like
- 41:55Speaker 3: that was important to me to highlight with this project.
- 41:58Speaker 3: So it's and it is very so Baptist. I grew
- 42:00Speaker 3: up Baptists. My grandmother was. She was a youth minister
- 42:03Speaker 3: on my dad's side, so she made me sing in
- 42:06Speaker 3: the church every Sunday. I had no choice. Even if
- 42:09Speaker 3: I was nervous or scared, I had no choice. So
- 42:11Speaker 3: those are really my roots. I grew up with a
- 42:14Speaker 3: praying grandmother, so those are truly, truly, truly my roots.
- 42:18Speaker 3: So I wanted to just highlight Southern Black American culture
- 42:21Speaker 3: with this project.
- 42:22Speaker 1: How do they feel about you doing this secular music? Now?
- 42:25Speaker 6: You know?
- 42:27Speaker 3: They My granny cuss though, so it's like she, you know,
- 42:31Speaker 3: you know how Baptist people are. It's like we real Baptists,
- 42:34Speaker 3: but outside the church, we like to turn up and
- 42:36Speaker 3: have a good time. So it's like my granny, she cussed,
- 42:39Speaker 3: she was crazy. She is crazy, So I know it's
- 42:42Speaker 3: like she can find a little bit of herself and
- 42:45Speaker 3: that I am my grandmother's baby. So it's like, boo,
- 42:48Speaker 3: where did I learn this from? But other than you
- 42:50Speaker 3: and my mom, I got this from y'all, So how
- 42:52Speaker 3: can you really be?
- 42:53Speaker 6: They?
- 42:54Speaker 3: They love it, they support it.
- 42:56Speaker 1: What did Jesus turn the water into water for? If
- 42:58Speaker 1: not for a party?
- 42:58Speaker 3: If not for a party, you know what I'm saying,
- 43:00Speaker 3: Not for a good turn up. You know what I mean?
- 43:02Speaker 1: Hello?
- 43:02Speaker 4: Okay, maybe for a different taste. You know they only
- 43:04Speaker 4: had water bag then he probably like, let's say something else.
- 43:06Speaker 3: But I'm saying you could have turned into apple juice, oranges,
- 43:09Speaker 3: any of the things wine he was trying to turn up,
- 43:11Speaker 3: and I feel I feel him.
- 43:13Speaker 4: Okay, now beating down your block? That was my anthem
- 43:18Speaker 4: like three years.
- 43:19Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not playing. Did you expect that song to
- 43:22Speaker 5: be as big as it got?
- 43:23Speaker 3: I expected it to change my life. I don't know
- 43:26Speaker 3: about I didn't know exactly what the parameters. I didn't
- 43:28Speaker 3: know how big it was gonna get, but I knew
- 43:30Speaker 3: it was going. I knew it was pivotal in my life.
- 43:32Speaker 3: And when I talk about journaling and writing that I
- 43:35Speaker 3: was gonna be on Breakfast Club, that was this is
- 43:36Speaker 3: around the time that I made that song. I was like, Yeah,
- 43:38Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on Breakfast Club. I'm gonna be getting interviewed,
- 43:41Speaker 3: I'm be getting plaques. Like I knew, I had a
- 43:44Speaker 3: feeling in my bones that that song was going to
- 43:46Speaker 3: change my life, and it did just that.
- 43:49Speaker 5: I love it.
- 43:50Speaker 3: And I'm at that second phase too, where I feel
- 43:52Speaker 3: like these next few songs that I'm dropping in this project,
- 43:56Speaker 3: I feel like it's also going to elevate my life.
- 43:58Speaker 3: I feel like even Sexy Solon has elevated my life
- 44:01Speaker 3: to an agree with all the good and the bad.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Talk about it and also thank you Charlemagne for posting
- 44:06Speaker 3: that for me. I appreciate you for exposing that to
- 44:08Speaker 3: an audience who might dad have seen that, an older
- 44:10Speaker 3: audience that like my dad, my mom's generation, who might
- 44:13Speaker 3: not have seen it. I feel like it definitely is
- 44:16Speaker 3: taking my life to a new tier as well, new fans,
- 44:19Speaker 3: new levels conversation too. It causes conversation, which was fine.
- 44:25Speaker 3: I'm cool with the good I'm cool with the bad.
- 44:27Speaker 3: It was. I just wanted to usher in the conversation.
- 44:29Speaker 4: So what I love about it? You were still a
- 44:31Speaker 4: little too nice. She was like, you were just telling
- 44:33Speaker 4: them all black people to go to the bad.
- 44:34Speaker 5: You ain't saying it out.
- 44:35Speaker 3: No, I just said, create a level of you know,
- 44:40Speaker 3: separation to a degree, not trying to segregate nig because
- 44:43Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, give us our space to congregate,
- 44:47Speaker 3: frightnize fellowship for two minutes. I wanted to create a
- 44:51Speaker 3: space for Black Americans to turn up and have a
- 44:53Speaker 3: good time Black people in general, because I know people
- 44:55Speaker 3: were like, what is this for Black Americas for It
- 44:58Speaker 3: was like I wanted to promote black unity and black community,
- 45:02Speaker 3: which is why you see me depicted cloaked in this
- 45:04Speaker 3: black American hairt juste flag, which I want to encourage
- 45:06Speaker 3: people to support and buy straight from the source. You
- 45:09Speaker 3: can get it on Black Lettic, where Black Litics is
- 45:12Speaker 3: not sponsored, by the way, not smart set at all.
- 45:14Speaker 3: I just want to I saw people were buying the flag,
- 45:16Speaker 3: and you can kind of buy these dupes from like
- 45:18Speaker 3: Amazon and different like Chinese vendors, and I want to
- 45:21Speaker 3: encourage people to shop straight from the source, which is
- 45:24Speaker 3: where black letics. He collaborated. His name is Rodney. He
- 45:27Speaker 3: collaborated with Joy, who is the daughter of Melvin Charles,
- 45:31Speaker 3: who was a co creator of the Black American hairt
- 45:33Speaker 3: Juste flag. So and I had to talk with her
- 45:36Speaker 3: earlier this week because I well, a couple weeks ago,
- 45:38Speaker 3: because I wanted to make sure that I had the
- 45:40Speaker 3: origin story of the Black American Haritge flag correct, which
- 45:43Speaker 3: is basically they created it in nineteen sixty seven to
- 45:46Speaker 3: basically acknowledge Black Americans for their contributions to America because
- 45:51Speaker 3: and it also just create some representation because at the time,
- 45:55Speaker 3: we were being identified as negroes, like they didn't really want
- 45:58Speaker 3: to acknowledge us as people. We didn't have our own flag.
- 46:01Speaker 3: We were kind of like they were paying us dust.
- 46:03Speaker 3: And so they created this flag so that we can
- 46:06Speaker 3: fly it and represent the Black American culture and our
- 46:09Speaker 3: contributions to this country. So and a lot of people
- 46:12Speaker 3: at the time didn't really resonate with the American flag either,
- 46:14Speaker 3: So it was like we had something of our own.
- 46:16Speaker 3: So you see me cloaked in the Black American Heritage
- 46:19Speaker 3: flag and the video, but then you also see the
- 46:21Speaker 3: flags behind me, the ethnic flags behind me stitched together
- 46:25Speaker 3: Nigerian flags, and you know, and I wanted to make
- 46:29Speaker 3: sure what was important to me was, like I said,
- 46:32Speaker 3: to promote black unity and black community because under the
- 46:35Speaker 3: umbrella of white supremacy and racism, we are all black
- 46:38Speaker 3: here in this country and cops pull us over. Then
- 46:42Speaker 3: I asked you here are you Jamaican? Are you? Where
- 46:44Speaker 3: are you from? Fact, they're not asking that you just black.
- 46:49Speaker 3: So I wanted to detail these shared experiences across the diaspora.
- 46:53Speaker 3: And I know what It's upset a couple of people,
- 46:55Speaker 3: which I can understand to a degree, because I feel
- 46:57Speaker 3: like Black Americans we want so badly to be represented
- 47:01Speaker 3: and we want something of our own because it feel
- 47:03Speaker 3: like people have taken from our culture. And I understand
- 47:05Speaker 3: that to a degree and still do so. I understand
- 47:08Speaker 3: the frustration about incorporating the other flags. But I'm just
- 47:11Speaker 3: here to detail what I was trying to depict, and
- 47:13Speaker 3: that was black unity and black community. And I'm not
- 47:17Speaker 3: trying to divide the diaspora. That will never be my intentions. Unfortunately,
- 47:21Speaker 3: that's just not what I'm trying to do.
- 47:23Speaker 5: I love it.
- 47:24Speaker 3: I'm here to bring us together.
- 47:25Speaker 2: You had When I went to go search the song
- 47:27Speaker 2: that morning on YouTube, and all I saw was reaction
- 47:29Speaker 2: videos of people upset.
- 47:31Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they was mad here, Like.
- 47:35Speaker 1: Like, is this really it's mad already? I'm like, when
- 47:37Speaker 1: this song came about, it's only six days ago.
- 47:39Speaker 3: Exactly, they were mad. I was. I expected white people
- 47:43Speaker 3: to be mad. I real don't give a damn what
- 47:44Speaker 3: white people think about me. I expected for them to
- 47:47Speaker 3: be mad. I got that. That made sense to me
- 47:50Speaker 3: because white people his thing with white people, And it's
- 47:54Speaker 3: not that I'm saying that all white people are bad, right,
- 47:58Speaker 3: you know, they be saying like I got a black
- 48:01Speaker 3: best friend. My best friend is white. You know, I's
- 48:04Speaker 3: taking a page out of they book. So it's not
- 48:06Speaker 3: that I'm saying white people are bad. But I think she.
- 48:09Speaker 1: Wasn't in the video. Everybody somebody said that to me
- 48:20Speaker 1: this morning. It was like, she got a Latino best friend,
- 48:22Speaker 1: Oh my.
- 48:22Speaker 3: God, just because she's tatty.
- 48:24Speaker 1: I promise.
- 48:28Speaker 3: That's my best friend. But it's like, I feel like
- 48:31Speaker 3: white people what they need to understand is that they've
- 48:35Speaker 3: been conditioned a certain type of way under this because
- 48:42Speaker 3: I feel like racism is a fundamental issue, and they've
- 48:45Speaker 3: been conditioned to this certain type of teaching in this
- 48:48Speaker 3: certain type of way subconsciously. So I feel like, consciously
- 48:54Speaker 3: it needs to be called out and it needs to
- 48:56Speaker 3: be unlearned. That's my only thing that I want to
- 48:58Speaker 3: make clearest, not that I'm saying a white people are bad.
- 49:01Speaker 3: So they were mad. I didn't give a damn about that.
- 49:03Speaker 3: I ain't care. And they were like, well, what if
- 49:05Speaker 3: white people made a song like this? White people have
- 49:08Speaker 3: done worse. Let's be clear, they've done way worse in
- 49:11Speaker 3: real life. And there is a song, actually I saw
- 49:14Speaker 3: the other day there was a song exactly exactly, so
- 49:19Speaker 3: it's like, what the hell are we talking about? What
- 49:21Speaker 3: are we talking about? But yeah, I expected them to
- 49:25Speaker 3: be mad, but I didn't expect for so many people
- 49:28Speaker 3: in my community to be upset. And then I kind
- 49:30Speaker 3: of like did my homework and I'm like, what is
- 49:32Speaker 3: it that is upsetting people? And I got down to
- 49:35Speaker 3: the root of it, and I'm like, all right, I
- 49:36Speaker 3: see what's happening here. I can't listen. I can't do
- 49:42Speaker 3: all this. This is too much. All I'm gonna say
- 49:45Speaker 3: is what I wanted to clearly articulate, and that was,
- 49:50Speaker 3: like I said, black community, black love, black comunity, and
- 49:55Speaker 3: detail these, like I said, shared experiences across the diaspora
- 49:58Speaker 3: that we can't control our grandmother are very similar. So
- 50:01Speaker 3: I wanted to detail that.
- 50:03Speaker 2: Sometimes you just got to tell people it's a black thing.
- 50:04Speaker 2: You wouldn't understand, you wouldn't care what. They don't need
- 50:07Speaker 2: an explanation, they.
- 50:08Speaker 3: Don't need no expl and it should be actually should
- 50:10Speaker 3: be gay kept. I think a lot of our cultures
- 50:12Speaker 3: should be kept close to us because you know, white
- 50:16Speaker 3: people that keep whatever they want to keep close to
- 50:18Speaker 3: them is kept very close to them. There's a lot
- 50:20Speaker 3: of shit that's kept away from us. And I feel
- 50:22Speaker 3: like we should have the same pride and integrity about
- 50:24Speaker 3: our culture. And it's not about being exclusionary. Is just
- 50:27Speaker 3: showcasing a level of pride and reverence and respect for
- 50:31Speaker 3: what's been put in place historically.
- 50:33Speaker 5: You are twenty four years old. You are so.
- 50:37Speaker 4: Like just intelligent, brilliant, educating your informative.
- 50:41Speaker 1: You know, sound like white people. White sound like white people.
- 50:44Speaker 3: They like white people.
- 50:46Speaker 1: You sound like white people saying that white people.
- 50:48Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
- 50:49Speaker 3: Because I'm giving another young.
- 50:50Speaker 2: Black woman sometimes I'd like that don't mean she white,
- 50:53Speaker 2: but that means you're just an intelligent black woman, like
- 50:56Speaker 2: you don't want to white?
- 50:58Speaker 3: That make you said that? Are we tell like they
- 51:00Speaker 3: sound like white people?
- 51:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that.
- 51:02Speaker 2: No, no, no, I said, said that she'd be sounding
- 51:05Speaker 2: like white people using big words.
- 51:07Speaker 6: You just used a couple of words that I didn't
- 51:09Speaker 6: even know.
- 51:09Speaker 1: Like that don't mean you white. That does mean she's
- 51:11Speaker 1: No no no.
- 51:12Speaker 4: Before said that he can say whatever you want to
- 51:15Speaker 4: say about his wife because and you say.
- 51:17Speaker 1: Because you look at you.
- 51:18Speaker 2: Why you know why because you looked at her and
- 51:20Speaker 2: you said, wow, you're twenty four years old, and you
- 51:22Speaker 2: sound so intelligent.
- 51:23Speaker 1: I wanted, no, I did, no, I didn't.
- 51:28Speaker 3: Sound of course, I.
- 51:32Speaker 4: Did not say she said please. I did not say
- 51:35Speaker 4: she sound so intelligent. I said, you're twenty four years old.
- 51:39Speaker 4: You are so intelligent. You're informative, you're educating your like.
- 51:46Speaker 7: I did not say that she means but I don't
- 51:49Speaker 7: think she means what you mean that she's gone white. Yeah,
- 51:54Speaker 7: she's talking about age and the maturity level when you
- 51:57Speaker 7: when you when speaking to.
- 51:58Speaker 3: Her in a comprehension story.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Some already told me the other day when Little John
- 52:02Speaker 2: was on Your Apprentice, and Donald Trump used to say,
- 52:05Speaker 2: come look at little John talk. Y'all got to hear John,
- 52:08Speaker 2: he's so intelligent. Oh my god, because you got.
- 52:11Speaker 1: The dreads right and the gold grill. You know what
- 52:14Speaker 1: I mean.
- 52:15Speaker 5: I don't think she meant that.
- 52:16Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. If what was coming from
- 52:18Speaker 3: if it was coming I would be like what you
- 52:20Speaker 3: mean by that? But I understand exactly what you mean
- 52:24Speaker 3: because I think, like just especially with the rhetoric with
- 52:28Speaker 3: the ship that's being pushed on us right now, I
- 52:31Speaker 3: think I get what you mean, like to bring light
- 52:34Speaker 3: to these subjects and you know, explain some of these
- 52:38Speaker 3: topics that we don't really talk about in our generation.
- 52:41Speaker 4: We don't talk about it. We don't hear about it
- 52:44Speaker 4: from young people enough. You know, Like there's three lesson
- 52:47Speaker 4: you just gave us on that flag. You know what
- 52:49Speaker 4: I mean that you you intentionally put in your video. Yeah,
- 52:52Speaker 4: that's you know what I'm saying, Like all of that
- 52:54Speaker 4: and then everything that you've been through, you could have
- 52:56Speaker 4: went a whole other way.
- 52:57Speaker 5: You could have you know what.
- 52:58Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, Yeah, for sure, I go around people
- 53:02Speaker 3: and it's so crazy to see the difference in how
- 53:06Speaker 3: trauma has affected us. And I don't fallot anybody for
- 53:09Speaker 3: the path that they chose, because you really never I
- 53:11Speaker 3: feel blessed. I don't know what it was that steered
- 53:16Speaker 3: me this way, because I could have been I could
- 53:19Speaker 3: have done anything in this life. Because I grew up
- 53:21Speaker 3: with people and we all grew up, we started at
- 53:23Speaker 3: the same point, we experienced some of the same things.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Some of the people that I was hospitalized with we
- 53:27Speaker 3: shared some of the same experiences, and we've all kind
- 53:30Speaker 3: of taken different paths, but we still stay closely connected.
- 53:35Speaker 3: But it's like, this is why I advocate the way
- 53:37Speaker 3: that I do, because I think people misunderstand my upbringing
- 53:42Speaker 3: or they see me or just like or they see
- 53:45Speaker 3: somebody who's poised and put together and they think or
- 53:48Speaker 3: well spoken, articulate, and they're like, oh my gosh, she's
- 53:50Speaker 3: so like, you know, they have no idea the things
- 53:53Speaker 3: that I've seen, the things I've witness, things that I've.
- 53:55Speaker 4: Experienced, and I admire it. It's inspirational.
- 53:58Speaker 5: Like so, yeah, it's.
- 54:00Speaker 2: Definitely glad you answered your call. Is that don hu
- 54:03Speaker 2: Leo record? Is that really about stunning for Vegas.
- 54:05Speaker 5: Answering the phone, Yes, it was why you ain't answer
- 54:08Speaker 5: the phone?
- 54:09Speaker 1: Why you didn't answer the call? Made a good song,
- 54:11Speaker 1: blessing on your line. You ain't pick up?
- 54:13Speaker 3: Get him?
- 54:13Speaker 6: I caught her back.
- 54:16Speaker 3: He called me back halfway through the song, and I
- 54:18Speaker 3: was did.
- 54:19Speaker 6: Know ship like not even just made the song. She
- 54:23Speaker 6: just saidn't have said that in the interview.
- 54:24Speaker 3: I shouldn't have, But I was being honest though, because
- 54:27Speaker 3: everybody's like, when you lie, you gotta keep up with
- 54:31Speaker 3: the lie. So I feel like the first time somebody
- 54:33Speaker 3: asked me what was the origin of the song, I
- 54:37Speaker 3: was just like, oh, yeah, this is what happened because
- 54:39Speaker 3: it was just like the most readily available answer that
- 54:43Speaker 3: I had, which was the truth. Maybe I probably shouldn't
- 54:45Speaker 3: have said that, but it was true and me he
- 54:46Speaker 3: called me back halfway through the song, but I was
- 54:48Speaker 3: already deep. I was like, I was already I was vibing.
- 54:51Speaker 3: I was loving a song. I knew it wasn't here.
- 54:53Speaker 6: There was no point.
- 54:55Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that. You do why you answer?
- 54:58Speaker 3: We shooting a video? Oh, I mean it happens every
- 55:02Speaker 3: now and then.
- 55:03Speaker 2: You know, she said, she's looking at you designed that
- 55:05Speaker 2: was his story. He better stick to it.
- 55:07Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I was really I was calling him and
- 55:10Speaker 3: I was like, why is he not?
- 55:11Speaker 6: I don't be doing no sucker ship, bro? Why I
- 55:13Speaker 6: don't even like when like a normal person walk up
- 55:16Speaker 6: to us and joke about that song, I'll be ready
- 55:19Speaker 6: to be like, bro, I'll slap the shit out of you.
- 55:21Speaker 3: Right, I shouldn't say that.
- 55:23Speaker 6: Hopefully it's not nobody with me for little brother to
- 55:25Speaker 6: be like, bro, we'll slap the shit out of you. Career,
- 55:29Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't even play.
- 55:31Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, his bros is crazy.
- 55:34Speaker 7: My best friend sent me that song. That's this is how.
- 55:37Speaker 7: My best friend sent me that song and it was like,
- 55:38Speaker 7: this is you. Y'all are spirit animals. I was like,
- 55:41Speaker 7: which was flying? I'm a sad scorpio cuss? Okay, yeah,
- 55:45Speaker 7: when your birthday November twenty second? Oh fire, my granny's
- 55:47Speaker 7: birthday November twenty third. Oh So she she's fun, but
- 55:50Speaker 7: she's fun. Yeah, she's crazy.
- 55:53Speaker 5: How did the link up with Lizzo happened?
- 55:56Speaker 3: So she's from Houston. So she reached out to me
- 56:00Speaker 3: and she was like, hey, you know I gotta do
- 56:02Speaker 3: you have any anything you want me to get on.
- 56:05Speaker 3: And I didn't have anything at the time, and I
- 56:07Speaker 3: was like, I'm recording this week, I'm recording all week.
- 56:09Speaker 3: If I find something, I'll send it to you. And
- 56:11Speaker 3: I send it to her. She sent it right back
- 56:13Speaker 3: the same day. She sent it back the same day,
- 56:16Speaker 3: which is very rare in this industry. I'm saying that
- 56:18Speaker 3: because I don't even be sending it back the same
- 56:20Speaker 3: day because I be needing to sit with stuff, or
- 56:22Speaker 3: I be needing to get to the studio. Maybe I
- 56:24Speaker 3: don't got a studio planned for another two weeks. Like
- 56:27Speaker 3: it just worked out that way. So I'm very appreciative
- 56:29Speaker 3: that she sent me that burst back so quick. I
- 56:31Speaker 3: never experienced nothing like, especially from us, a star like Lizo,
- 56:37Speaker 3: like somebody who is so accomplished like her. I would
- 56:39Speaker 3: have thought that she would have gave me to run around.
- 56:41Speaker 3: But she was really adamant about doing the song because
- 56:43Speaker 3: she was kind of like she's entering this rap phase
- 56:45Speaker 3: and I'm just happy to facilitate.
- 56:47Speaker 5: Yeah, that's dope.
- 56:48Speaker 1: It is true. You you, you and the baby back good.
- 56:52Speaker 6: We we speak, we speak, I mean we speak.
- 57:00Speaker 1: Had you facilitated that combo? Was that true.
- 57:03Speaker 3: I didn't facilitate that Conbo. I don't know him personally,
- 57:06Speaker 3: but it was like.
- 57:07Speaker 6: I facilitated that Combo. I was on tour with talking
- 57:10Speaker 6: to you and he told you like that, let's just reached.
- 57:13Speaker 6: That's how we seen. I've seen it up there. Like
- 57:16Speaker 6: even when I reached out to him, I was reaching
- 57:17Speaker 6: out to him on some grown man ship, like I'm
- 57:20Speaker 6: gonna take my lick, like I was the reason why
- 57:23Speaker 6: we separated because it was a ship going on outside
- 57:26Speaker 6: the business. So I moved around and when I hit
- 57:32Speaker 6: him up, I probably moved around before I hit him up.
- 57:36Speaker 6: I moved around with animosity on my chest. So when
- 57:38Speaker 6: I hit him up, it was more so like not
- 57:40Speaker 6: getting it off. But it was definitely like, man bro,
- 57:42Speaker 6: I'm gonna take accountability. Like I went left. I should
- 57:47Speaker 6: have came and spoke to you about certain ship. There
- 57:50Speaker 6: was nothing like, man bro, you like I want to
- 57:54Speaker 6: get back to that, Like this is the only dudo
- 57:56Speaker 6: I'm worried about. So like when I reached out to
- 58:00Speaker 6: him on some real ship, it's like, well, I really
- 58:02Speaker 6: do miss my brother me. That's all it was. It
- 58:06Speaker 6: wasn't nothing, It wasn't about no I needed a song.
- 58:08Speaker 6: I'm trying to get back right there with none of that,
- 58:11Speaker 6: Like I missed my brother. We're not been through enough,
- 58:14Speaker 6: Like it wasn't just straight music ship. I'm like, man,
- 58:20Speaker 6: how the hell shout? It adin't hit me up yet. Yeah,
- 58:24Speaker 6: but we did end up speaking one out. We was
- 58:25Speaker 6: on tour. That's how it kind of happened because I
- 58:28Speaker 6: was on tour with my wife. She was on tour
- 58:30Speaker 6: Don Tolliver. I was playing around. I got into it
- 58:33Speaker 6: like Rick on Don Tolliver bike and like messed up,
- 58:37Speaker 6: like faction, every bone in my face and stuff like that.
- 58:40Speaker 6: And then when Leo posted about it, like basically letting
- 58:42Speaker 6: it be known that I'm straight, probably like a day later,
- 58:46Speaker 6: he reached out to me, responding back to the DM
- 58:51Speaker 6: that he told you all about. So I had hit
- 58:54Speaker 6: him before you fear me, before he came up here
- 58:57Speaker 6: and told y'all, and he still didn't even reached that
- 59:00Speaker 6: like whatever he said he told y'all like, oh, it's good.
- 59:03Speaker 6: But even then, I know bro, like I really know him,
- 59:06Speaker 6: so I'm like shit. However, when I sent the message
- 59:11Speaker 6: to him, I'm like, however he reacts, I'm not tripping
- 59:13Speaker 6: because I'm taking accountability for even letting this shit get
- 59:17Speaker 6: this distant. God moved around without saying anything. I moved
- 59:21Speaker 6: around without saying like, oh this is going on, or
- 59:23Speaker 6: somebody saying there somebody telling who, I just moved around.
- 59:29Speaker 6: But even then, because I ain't got nothing against bro
- 59:32Speaker 6: loving to death, like, I look at it like when
- 59:35Speaker 6: I moved around, like that's what I was supposed to
- 59:37Speaker 6: do on God, that what I was supposed to do, Bro,
- 59:40Speaker 6: Because that's just what I was supposed to do.
- 59:43Speaker 2: What was the issue though, because it's not like you
- 59:44Speaker 2: didn't have your own identity even being with the baby,
- 59:47Speaker 2: like people knew who stunner forward was.
- 59:49Speaker 1: You was on your own trajectory. You didn't feel like.
- 59:54Speaker 6: That, Yeah, that's what it felt like, though they might
- 59:59Speaker 6: not have been at That's what it felt like though,
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: And that ain't got nothing to do with him, you
- 1:00:05Speaker 6: feel me, We was bruh. It was just that shit
- 1:00:08Speaker 6: happened too quick that I can really say that's his
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: my career, like I can say it happened so quick
- 1:00:14Speaker 6: that it was probably too much for everybody and not
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: just me. But at first I used to look at
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: it like, man, that shit was too much for me, bro,
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: Like before that, I was in a two bedroom apartment
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: that was getting shot up. My mama was at that,
- 1:00:27Speaker 6: like seven niggas in there, my sisters in there, still
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: still going to school every day or whatever. Like uh,
- 1:00:37Speaker 6: I looked at it like it was just too much
- 1:00:38Speaker 6: for everybody from me bruh in the scope and everybody.
- 1:00:42Speaker 6: You feel me, you feel me because I did my part,
- 1:00:46Speaker 6: Like I ain't never end up how any of my
- 1:00:49Speaker 6: peers ended up. That we was doing the same thing
- 1:00:52Speaker 6: on and off Instagram. We was doing the same exact thing.
- 1:00:54Speaker 6: I ain't end up like nobody else. I ain't never
- 1:00:58Speaker 6: get one of my close partners indicted. You feel me killed?
- 1:01:06Speaker 6: Nothing I ain't do. I feel like I felt like
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: the only thing I did wrong was just funck off
- 1:01:10Speaker 6: money because I'm a genuine guy at heart already with
- 1:01:14Speaker 6: anybody I come across, like the bus driver, the janitor,
- 1:01:19Speaker 6: the president, and everybody got like, no big use, no whatever.
- 1:01:24Speaker 6: So I'm like, man, it was just too much, bro,
- 1:01:29Speaker 6: it was just too much for everybody. Like because like
- 1:01:32Speaker 6: I said, it can feel or it can even look
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: like something to y'all, but over here it's something totally different.
- 1:01:40Speaker 6: Like I was really surviving my whole time over there,
- 1:01:43Speaker 6: not even just with being all the baby like within
- 1:01:46Speaker 6: the scope being our help. I was surviving. I wasn't
- 1:01:52Speaker 6: I feel me. I wasn't top of the line like
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: everybody thought it what brother's top of the line, for sure?
- 1:01:57Speaker 6: With me, I was like surviving. I was trying to
- 1:01:58Speaker 6: get through there. I was trying to I'm paying lawyer fees.
- 1:02:02Speaker 6: I'm doing like everything that artists do around my age,
- 1:02:07Speaker 6: like thinking that we've grown already, are like, oh yeah,
- 1:02:11Speaker 6: I'm a man, Like I'm out here. You feel me?
- 1:02:13Speaker 6: So like I say, I can say yeah, it felt
- 1:02:15Speaker 6: like that or even looked like that. But now I'm
- 1:02:18Speaker 6: twenty nine years old and I can look back on shit,
- 1:02:20Speaker 6: wake up every day with my wife, breakfast, lunch, dinner,
- 1:02:25Speaker 6: feel me, wake up with my son, go to the
- 1:02:27Speaker 6: studio when I want to, Like, I see this shit
- 1:02:30Speaker 6: for what it really is. So I know when a
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: nigga get on that bit talking about like man, I
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: gotta take this risk for the family, gotta get away
- 1:02:37Speaker 6: from that shit, be cap that shit, be total cap
- 1:02:41Speaker 6: because I know, like even now I'm bigger than I
- 1:02:47Speaker 6: was before. Bro, I just was like streaming music, and
- 1:02:51Speaker 6: it was dropping so much. I was dropping it through
- 1:02:54Speaker 6: a company or whatever versus, Like now that's what I'm
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: getting back to doing. But my music is better than
- 1:02:59Speaker 6: this being. I'm really like genuinely happy. I really feel like.
- 1:03:03Speaker 6: I was talking to young Thug the other day, was like,
- 1:03:05Speaker 6: how'd you for? Real? Bro? How'd you for I said,
- 1:03:08Speaker 6: I'm better than I ever been, Like, I ain't just
- 1:03:09Speaker 6: saying that to you either. I'm better than I ever
- 1:03:12Speaker 6: been before I got some money. When I got some money,
- 1:03:15Speaker 6: like everything, bro, I look at it like a lessen
- 1:03:18Speaker 6: and not a loss. So I just say it was
- 1:03:21Speaker 6: just too much for everybody, but it was supposed to
- 1:03:24Speaker 6: happen it. It put me in position to be here today.
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: Feed me. It put me in position to learn, like
- 1:03:33Speaker 6: about a lot of stuff that a lot of guys
- 1:03:35Speaker 6: can't come in that bit with the biggest rapper at
- 1:03:37Speaker 6: the time, Like I'm coming through here with the baby.
- 1:03:39Speaker 6: So I'm gonna meet Drake, I'm gonna meet Gucci, I'm
- 1:03:41Speaker 6: gonna meet every rapper. I'm gonna watch this rapper do
- 1:03:44Speaker 6: lame shit that I used to look up to. I'm
- 1:03:46Speaker 6: gonna watch I'm gonna see all of it. Feel me.
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: And then when I finally get to that moment with myself,
- 1:03:52Speaker 6: while I'm like, man, why ain't you take this nigga back?
- 1:03:56Speaker 6: Why don't following this nigga? What am I doing?
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: Like this?
- 1:03:58Speaker 6: Ain't me? I get to break down all that shit
- 1:04:01Speaker 6: that I've seen from everything, and and then I just
- 1:04:04Speaker 6: tell myself like it was supposed to happen like that
- 1:04:07Speaker 6: versus before my wife came around too. I was definitely
- 1:04:09Speaker 6: telling myself that I'm about to mood to Houston, about
- 1:04:14Speaker 6: the mood of Houston. I'm about to run up some baby.
- 1:04:16Speaker 6: Feel I'm about to woo. I'm about to take a
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: break from North Carolina before I go to jail or
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: do something wrong. Feel me, I'm about to mood to Houston,
- 1:04:23Speaker 6: about to woo woo. And then when I meet her,
- 1:04:27Speaker 6: I did them just start telling myself like I did
- 1:04:29Speaker 6: my first on the radar. I did that first interview.
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: I told him in an interview, I was like, I'm
- 1:04:36Speaker 6: done rapping. And from there, from there, when I said
- 1:04:39Speaker 6: that out loud, like I'm done rapping, I ain't do
- 1:04:41Speaker 6: no freestyle on the radar. From there, that's when everybody
- 1:04:44Speaker 6: come up with the narrative, Oh baby did this he
- 1:04:46Speaker 6: dropped and me dad da da, He's gonna fell out.
- 1:04:49Speaker 6: But I really literally like what's that on the radar?
- 1:04:53Speaker 6: Like just burnt. You can go look at the interview
- 1:04:55Speaker 6: right now, like look at my face and you can tell, like, bro,
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: that nigga did not want to do this. I was
- 1:05:00Speaker 6: sober in that interview, but I was just like and
- 1:05:02Speaker 6: this shit, like everything about it is not what I expected,
- 1:05:06Speaker 6: like feel me.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: But it's the industry in general.
- 1:05:09Speaker 6: Yeah yeah at the time. But like I say, all
- 1:05:11Speaker 6: that supposed to happen, bro, Like I was supposed to
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: watch the industry go through the ups and downs that
- 1:05:16Speaker 6: it went through as an industry alone, because I used
- 1:05:18Speaker 6: to look at it like is it me going through
- 1:05:21Speaker 6: the ups and downs? And I don't know. I'm a
- 1:05:23Speaker 6: good I'm a good dude, like, but I'm watching fuck
- 1:05:25Speaker 6: niggas go straight ups every time, so I'm.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Like, is it me?
- 1:05:30Speaker 6: But I'm also watching like as a year ago about
- 1:05:33Speaker 6: another year ago. But I'm like, it's really the industry
- 1:05:35Speaker 6: because you can see I don't want to use no names,
- 1:05:37Speaker 6: but you know, shit like did they me and Leo
- 1:05:41Speaker 6: got married? Our name was besides whoever y'all wanted to
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: say it was, but a week before that, the narrative
- 1:05:46Speaker 6: was that maybe I'll fell off for maybe whatever it was,
- 1:05:51Speaker 6: Maybe I'm around my wife because of what she got
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: going on, whatever it was, you feel me. They had
- 1:05:56Speaker 6: every narrative that they wanted to put out there until
- 1:05:59Speaker 6: we just like I say, put it on the internet
- 1:06:02Speaker 6: like this is the narrative, like or people seeing me
- 1:06:06Speaker 6: cry and ship like that. I thought, like, in reality,
- 1:06:11Speaker 6: I'm not tripping about that shit. Or when my wife said,
- 1:06:15Speaker 6: what we're gonna do the ceremony because I'm like, shit,
- 1:06:16Speaker 6: you supposed to cry. I cried for a nigga that
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: died game. You think I'm not about to cry for
- 1:06:22Speaker 6: my wife? Right? You feel me?
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:06:24Speaker 6: Yes, you feel me like I feel the same way
- 1:06:26Speaker 6: about Like they'd be like, oh a nigga, you tender
- 1:06:29Speaker 6: if you I'll be like, I'm right I am. I'm
- 1:06:32Speaker 6: gonna be the first one to tell you straight up
- 1:06:33Speaker 6: I am like and even if she she wouldn't do that,
- 1:06:38Speaker 6: but it don't matter. I'm tender. You feel me because
- 1:06:40Speaker 6: of the same way you play with my homeboy. I
- 1:06:42Speaker 6: know how much react he damn a rat. You play
- 1:06:45Speaker 6: with my son. Mama absolutely.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: Feel me.
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: And also because of the trauma we've been through, we
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: don't expect tears of joy.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: No fact, you're supposed to shake tears of joy at
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: your way.
- 1:06:54Speaker 6: I was crying for like ten minutes in the shower
- 1:06:56Speaker 6: before I put my suit on. My homeboys out there
- 1:06:59Speaker 6: getting ready. I'm just in it. Been trying to clean up,
- 1:07:01Speaker 6: like song go out there looking toe up. Yeah, like
- 1:07:04Speaker 6: this shit really going on today, That's all I was
- 1:07:05Speaker 6: telling myself in the shower. Yeah, for sure, that was
- 1:07:09Speaker 6: like probably the biggest thing I ever did. What the
- 1:07:12Speaker 6: biggest moment my life other than my son, Like no tour,
- 1:07:16Speaker 6: no show, no big chick could amount to that day
- 1:07:19Speaker 6: for sure.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Congratulations eighteen twenty two.
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: Man, he who finds your wife finds a good thing
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: and a teans paper from the Lord.
- 1:07:28Speaker 5: I really really admire y'all.
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: What y'all got, y'all, Thank you, Alice, the empire, y'all building,
- 1:07:34Speaker 4: How y'all raising y'all, little boy, how you're breaking generational curses.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: House.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: It's gonna get It's going to get easier and easier
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: with time with your dad if you just keep going,
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: you know, like like Mona said, it's hard for you
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: and it's also hard for him. But I know it'll
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: get It'll get right, you know, yeah time.
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: Because she's giving you that look like she want to
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: go make another one man?
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: Yes, but no, who did? The body comes out this Friday.
- 1:08:06Speaker 6: Friday seventeen.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: Look at them, look at that, look at us, see
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: that people stamp. Yeah, that's a proud of us. Look
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: at us. Magazine stamp.
- 1:08:18Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: Keep going, generational curse breakers, man, that's the best work
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: that y'all can do. Not being afraid to come out
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: here and tell y'all stories and just being this amazing
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: example of black love.
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: Man. Salute to y'all.
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: Thank you so much, absolutely, thank you'all. Yes, thank y'all
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: for having us.
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: Vegas is the breakfast club.
- 1:08:37Speaker 8: It's not Mono Leo, Mona Leo le You sound white every.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Day a week ago, breakfast club. Finish, y'all done,