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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 2-20-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: Have it Friday, Have it Friday, Everybody. It's the Sean
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Speaker 2: O'Connell Show, Utah's number one Sports Talk, brought to you
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Speaker 2: by our friends, Oh Brett, Big Willie. Seventeen seventeen, South Maine.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully you've got a day off today. Maybe you took
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Speaker 2: some time off early to watch a couple of semi
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Speaker 2: final Olympic hockey games. Finland Canada tied up at two
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Speaker 2: the Finns. How about this? Two goals on sixteen shots
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Speaker 2: on goal, Canada, two goals on thirty four shots on goal.
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Speaker 2: A couple of finish goalies standing on their heads here,
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Speaker 2: and there's three minutes left in this one. Of course,
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Speaker 2: this is a semi final. Winner advances to the gold
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Speaker 2: medal game, and the winner is a guaranteed medalist. So
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Speaker 2: that's that's the podium. That's the other thing that matters
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Speaker 2: in these semi final games. The loser still has a
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Speaker 2: chance to get a bronze medal, but you have to
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Speaker 2: win one more game, so that's right, Yeah, that's all
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Speaker 2: the other thing on the line at least, which, by
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Speaker 2: the way, for Canada, for Team USA that well, at
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Speaker 2: least you're no worse than a silver medal. Probably no
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Speaker 2: consolation in that, especially if you're Canada. But this was
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Speaker 2: to zero Finland for quite a while. The Canada Claude
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Speaker 2: won back late in the second and then again in
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Speaker 2: the third.
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Speaker 3: The shot disparity oc once Canada got that equalizer earlier
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Speaker 3: in this third period, and then I saw I checked
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Speaker 3: the shot disparity again. It made me feel like this
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Speaker 3: is Canada's to loose. And that was almost the win,
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Speaker 3: go ahead goal right there.
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Speaker 2: They just almost got another one. It looks like Marshan
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Speaker 2: might have been slashed or got a little high stick,
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Speaker 2: So Canada power play coming. This could be a tough
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Speaker 2: couple of minutes here for the Finns. Lowry Marketing somewhere
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Speaker 2: is going absolutely banana sandwich, hoping that his finished team
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Speaker 2: can finish this game strong.
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Speaker 3: They need the finisher on the ice. They need to
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Speaker 3: call Lowry markten.
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Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know how many people remember that the
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Speaker 2: initial celebrity. The initial celebrity puck drop from the Utah. Oh,
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Speaker 2: that was off off the blocker. McKinnon almost scored the
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Speaker 2: go ahead there off the blocker, and then it rolls
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Speaker 2: up the blocker, literally off the top of the goalie
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Speaker 2: stick like the handle keeps it out of the nets.
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Speaker 2: This one is going to be fast and furious for
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Speaker 2: the next two minutes thirty five seconds power play for
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Speaker 2: Canada starting right now.
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Speaker 3: Basically a power play till the end of the game.
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Speaker 3: There'll still be thirty seconds left, but if Finland is
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Speaker 3: not able to kill this penalty, they probably lose.
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Speaker 2: Man. You gotta think it is so far one for
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Speaker 2: two on power plays today, So and they are just this.
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Speaker 2: This goalie is really earning his keep right now, his
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Speaker 2: amateur I don't know if he gets paid anything extra
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Speaker 2: for this. I don't know what the finished contingent. Oh,
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Speaker 2: that was terrible. Jasu's looking for. Don't try to read
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Speaker 2: don't try to read jersey names when somebody is moving
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Speaker 2: and they have a ponytail hanging in front of.
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Speaker 3: The especially the women's hockey because they got the pot.
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Speaker 3: They got their ponytails that cover most of the name.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what right. First minute of the power play
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Speaker 2: killed fifty seven more seconds for Finland to try to
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Speaker 2: keep this thing out of the nets at least during
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Speaker 2: the power play. Tough, tough situation for Finland. But they
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Speaker 2: played great through this whole tournament. They're playing great today
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Speaker 2: and Canada is an absolute juggernaut. Now Finland, interestingly enough,
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Speaker 2: is of They've got one guy on the ice in
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Speaker 2: this game. They got one guy still playing.
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Speaker 3: I'm just reacting. Yes, well you're talking great radio of James.
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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll turn my mic up.
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Speaker 2: Finland's got one guy that is not an NHL player
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Speaker 2: on the roster. Now, he's a former NHL player, he
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Speaker 2: currently plays in the top Swiss league. But everyone else
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Speaker 2: on the roster is an NHL player. And of course
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Speaker 2: Canada is not only all NHL players, but it's all
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Speaker 2: like NHL All Star caliber players, because that's just what
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Speaker 2: Canada is and how Canada is in these Olympics. How much.
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Speaker 2: With two seconds left in the power play, Canada gets
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Speaker 2: the goal. Finland had almost killed the whole thing thirty
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Speaker 2: five seconds left in the game. Two seconds left in
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Speaker 2: the power play. Was that Cole mccarr that scored the
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Speaker 2: go ahead?
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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, or what they're showing. Yeah, m must
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Speaker 3: have been McKinnon. I was gonna say, right as that
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Speaker 3: goal went in, how much emotional investment do you think
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Speaker 3: the Mammoth organization has in Finland winning for because of
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Speaker 3: oly Manta?
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Speaker 2: Well you want o mats? Oh my gosh, that was
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Speaker 2: just the numbers advantage. Just with two seconds left in
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Speaker 2: the power play, Finland just squeezed it in near the
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Speaker 2: near side post. Oh off his skate off the tip
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Speaker 2: of the shin pad or maybe the toe of the skate.
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Speaker 2: Sorrow's not able to keep that one OUTA yeah, we
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Speaker 2: can read that name Sorrows. By the way, he has
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Speaker 2: a really cool mask. I've told you guys many times
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Speaker 2: how much I love the the Goldie mask as an
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Speaker 2: artistic expression in sport, and he's got a really good one. Anyway. Dang, dang,
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Speaker 2: so so close.
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Speaker 3: Goal under review. Apparently here referees thanks like they're reviewing this.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna listen on the TV broadcast. You
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Speaker 3: keep going all let you know.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, part of what I wanted to talk about
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Speaker 2: was related to the gold medal game that we saw
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Speaker 2: yesterday for Team USA, finishing with the gold medal over Canada, right,
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Speaker 2: and we've been we only got a few more days
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Speaker 2: of Olympics that we really get to lean into the Okay,
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Speaker 2: maybe off side here on the go ahead goal man,
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Speaker 2: this would be. To take this one away would be really,
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Speaker 2: really controversial and not well received by our neighbors to
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Speaker 2: the north. Maclin Celabrini. They're not gonna no. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's it's concurrent that the puck is entering the zone
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Speaker 2: the same time his skates on the blue line. They're
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Speaker 2: not gonna take that away. I mean, good on the referees,
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Speaker 2: Good on the replay officials for making sure that you
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Speaker 2: get this thing right because the stakes are so incredibly high.
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Speaker 3: This is for a trip to the gold medal game.
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Speaker 3: And the coach is challenged too. So it's Finland's. It's
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Speaker 3: Finland's seeing this, how close this is and saying we're
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Speaker 3: gonna take a shot.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna say if if I'm the
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Speaker 2: Finnish coach here, if I'm anyone on the Finish bench
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Speaker 2: and there's thirty five seconds left in a semi final game,
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Speaker 2: even if I don't think that this is real, I'm
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Speaker 2: just saying a challenge just in case they can find something.
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Speaker 2: You got nothing to lose you there's thirty five seconds left.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna get a decision here. But we were talking
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Speaker 2: about the gold medal game for Team USA, and we
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Speaker 2: were talking about the prestige of certain gold medals versus others.
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Speaker 2: I want to know who you, as an American try
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Speaker 2: to lip read this referee here, No offside goal's good
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Speaker 2: and then they'll try to equalize with thirty five seconds left.
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Speaker 2: Good luck to the Finns. Canada USA hockey rivalry, especially
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Speaker 2: on the women's side, is strong. Seven times they'd met
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Speaker 2: up for an Olympic gold medal, right, Canada USA on
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Speaker 2: the men's side, we want that to be more of
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Speaker 2: an even rival Right now, Canada is pretty dominant in
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Speaker 2: that rivalry. You go back to the old days, and
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Speaker 2: it was because of all the political stuff, the Cold
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Speaker 2: War stuff USA Russia obviously miracle on ice et cetera,
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Speaker 2: et cetera like, But there are rivalries in the Olympics.
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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Which
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Speaker 2: country do you feel the greatest rivalry against in the Olympics?
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Speaker 2: Is it Canada? Because of the hockey thing. Probably Okay,
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Speaker 2: so Finland will finish the game shorthanded because the penalty
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Speaker 2: for being wrong on the challenge is well a penalty.
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Speaker 2: You go a man down and they're empty. Look at
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Speaker 2: that see you look at that sorrow's mask, the blue
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Speaker 2: lightning lion. I mean, come on, it's not as good
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Speaker 2: as it gets you.
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Speaker 3: Forget about that if you're not if you're not watching
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Speaker 3: hockey all the time.
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Speaker 2: But that is an NHL rule as well.
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Speaker 3: If you the challenge, you have to be you have
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Speaker 3: to be pretty sure or desperate to do a coach's
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Speaker 3: challenge or else there's there's a harsh penalty there. You
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Speaker 3: get a two minute power play for the other team.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're clearly in a very disparate, desperate situation.
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Speaker 2: Desperation situation here, no problem with taking that and trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out if you can have that that thing
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Speaker 2: wiped off. We're down to just a few seconds left,
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Speaker 2: seventeen point three seconds left in this semi final. Of course,
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Speaker 2: team USA versus Slovakia. The second semi final will start.
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Speaker 2: That puck will drop during our show today and if
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Speaker 2: and throughout the show eight seven to seven three five
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Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred will actually air them during the
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Speaker 2: airing of Grievances. Canada, this one has gone final. Canada
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Speaker 2: edges out Finland three to two in a thriller, kept
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Speaker 2: it interesting, made it a lot more interesting than the
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Speaker 2: Canadian contingent probably wanted. But man, the power play late
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Speaker 2: just really, really, really difficult to overcome for Finland. Well,
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Speaker 2: the game has gone final, but we're reviewing something again. Look,
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Speaker 2: Kenna is gonna win this game. One point three seconds
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Speaker 2: back on the clock. Finland had a face off one
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Speaker 2: to face off deepen their own attacking end on the dots.
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Speaker 2: But Canada is gonna go forward with this one no
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Speaker 2: matter how many reviews we get. The desperation situation for
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Speaker 2: Finland is beyond the pale. Also, uh, forgive me Finland,
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Speaker 2: I was not familiar with your sweater game. I don't.
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Speaker 2: I guess I haven't watched the the Finland logo. They've
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Speaker 2: got the lion with two swords, kind of like. Okay,
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Speaker 2: now the game is final. Now Canada advances to the
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Speaker 2: gold medal game, and of course our hope is that
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Speaker 2: we get USA Canada on the men's side the same
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Speaker 2: way we got USA Canada on the women's side, and
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Speaker 2: hopefully the result in that one is going to be
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Speaker 2: the same. I always like to hear from you on
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Speaker 2: a Friday, especially grievances and other things, and the the
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Speaker 2: perceived rival of Olympic sport competition, Like, I guess it's
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Speaker 2: more of an event by event thing in a lot
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Speaker 2: of cases. For example, when we care deeply about swimming
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Speaker 2: every four years, it's Australia, right. Australia is the team
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Speaker 2: that you're just like, ooh, USA has got to beat
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Speaker 2: Australia because they're so proficient in the pool. When we're
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Speaker 2: talking about the importance of figure skating in these Winter Olympics,
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Speaker 2: the USA rival is I guess it's gone up and down,
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Speaker 2: but it has been Canada, it has been Japan, it
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Speaker 2: has been China, it has been a bunch of different nations.
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Speaker 2: I suppose based on the talent we feel like we
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Speaker 2: feel like I don't know if the world feels like
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Speaker 2: USA is the constant in that competition again that we
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Speaker 2: care about deeply every four years. And then beyond that,
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Speaker 2: it's whoever is h trained the the Wunderkin from the
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Speaker 2: time they were five years old, probably younger, and in
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Speaker 2: a lot of those sports, competing at like fifteen, sixteen,
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Speaker 2: seventeen years old, although not the case this year, I
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Speaker 2: guess right in like the pairs stuff, the French had
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Speaker 2: their controversial couple that are in their thirties. So anyway,
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Speaker 2: I heard an interesting stat today, Dan Patrick. He's off
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Speaker 2: and so they've got the fill in situation going on.
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Speaker 2: I think Brady Quinn was on this morning and they
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Speaker 2: were talking about something that is not necessarily front of
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Speaker 2: mine for a lot of fans here in the state
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Speaker 2: of Utah right now. But they were talking about Lane
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Speaker 2: Johnson's decision to come back to the Eagles and look
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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia Eagles offensive lineman. Okay, great, why are we
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Speaker 2: going to talk about that? Well, they threw out a
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Speaker 2: really interesting stat relative. It's the win versus lost splits
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Speaker 2: when Lane Johnson has been available in his career versus
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Speaker 2: when he has not been available in his career. And quarterbacks, obviously,
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Speaker 2: there's a certain the war rating for a quarterback. Like
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Speaker 2: we know how incredibly significant qbs are to the success
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Speaker 2: of their team. So if you remove the quarterback from
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Speaker 2: the situation, a lot of times your splits, your win
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Speaker 2: loss splits based on player availability, are gonna be sort
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Speaker 2: of a neutral. They're gonna be maybe like depend like
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Speaker 2: if you're talking about a big time running back, an
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Speaker 2: elite pass rusher, if you're talking about a wide receiver
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Speaker 2: or tight end that scores a grip of touchdowns. You
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Speaker 2: look at those splits for their teams, and maybe a
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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce gives you, you know, an extra three, four
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Speaker 2: or five games above five hundred because he's available versus
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Speaker 2: when he's not. Lane Johnson's win loss splits are thirteen
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Speaker 2: games below five hundred for the Eagles when he is
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Speaker 2: not available in his thirteen year career, fifty games over
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Speaker 2: five hundred when he is available, so a sixty three
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Speaker 2: game disparity over his thirteen year career and he's a
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Speaker 2: guy who's dealt with plenty of injuries, so we're not
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Speaker 2: even talking about sixteen or seventeen games every single year,
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Speaker 2: like you could probably average it out. I think he's
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Speaker 2: played thirteen games a year for his thirteen year career,
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Speaker 2: and he somehow has put together a sixty five game
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Speaker 2: split between his availability or not his availability. That's wild.
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Speaker 2: And again I don't want to talk about the Eagles today,
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Speaker 2: but it started to make me wonder what those numbers
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Speaker 2: look like for Utah players, what those number look like
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Speaker 2: for Utah non quarterbacks, and for you as a fan, right,
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Speaker 2: you could do this with baseball, You could do this
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Speaker 2: with basketball. Probably have done this with Utah basketball. Maybe
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Speaker 2: not in the last four or five years because the
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Speaker 2: availability of players has not been a natural process these
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Speaker 2: last four or five years. But for a single player,
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Speaker 2: especially a single non quarterback player, a non pitcher in baseball,
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Speaker 2: to have that kind of a plus minus is really
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Speaker 2: really significant, and thinking about the great utes that have
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Speaker 2: run through this program, and it's harder to do in
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Speaker 2: college because you don't have a thirteen year sample size,
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Speaker 2: and for a lot of guys now, especially with the
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Speaker 2: transfer portal, you might have a one or two season
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Speaker 2: sample size, so basing it more on your intuition, your
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Speaker 2: eyeball test, your memory. I suppose the non quarterbacks that
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Speaker 2: have been most significant to the win loss differential where
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Speaker 2: you felt like, if he's available, we're good. If he's
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Speaker 2: not available, we might actually lose this game. John Henry
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Speaker 2: Daily felt like that guy defensively for the University of Utah. Now, thankfully,
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Speaker 2: the offense this past season had an ability that previous
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Speaker 2: seasons he didn't have. You could just get into a
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Speaker 2: boat race and you could outscore teams. It could be
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Speaker 2: a track meet, and you still had a chance to win.
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Speaker 2: That was a special thing about this Utah offense this
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Speaker 2: past season that didn't exist for most of the twenty
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Speaker 2: one years of Kyle Whittingham's tenure. But on the defensive side,
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Speaker 2: weirdly enough, even though we gave him more credit for
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Speaker 2: being a pass rusher than for anything else, look at
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Speaker 2: like the rushing numbers that Utah gave up defensively after
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Speaker 2: his injury versus before his injury, and I think it
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Speaker 2: was more of like his place in the chain, right,
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Speaker 2: And that old cliche of a chain is only as
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Speaker 2: strong as its weakest link. Well, then when he was
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Speaker 2: a foundational tough piece, he was great in run support.
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Speaker 2: He obviously was an elite pass rusher as well, and
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Speaker 2: then he's gone and they have to do something different
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Speaker 2: or somebody else is playing behind him in all respect
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Speaker 2: to you know, the Cash Dyllans of the world, they
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Speaker 2: just aren't the same player, or were not this past season,
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Speaker 2: the same player, especially against the run. So a lot
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Speaker 2: of us thought about, well, John Henry Dally, the hardest
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Speaker 2: thing is replacing him in the pass rush, and you didn't.
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Speaker 2: You can't replace his individual pass rushing production. But I
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Speaker 2: think he was more significant, more difficult to replace.
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Speaker 4: In his.
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Speaker 2: Run support. And I'm excited to get Morgan Scalley and
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Speaker 2: Cole and Colton swan On in this upcoming football season
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Speaker 2: to talk about exactly these things because they have the data,
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Speaker 2: They have the and they have a much more significant
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Speaker 2: understanding of why and how a player like that being
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Speaker 2: absent or being available can change the way that you
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Speaker 2: set an edge, the way that your gap responsibility is
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Speaker 2: handled up front, which of course alters the way your
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Speaker 2: gap responsibility is handled by the linebackers and in the
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Speaker 2: second level, which of course then translates to what about
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Speaker 2: the safety is coming downhill? I mean, all of these
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Speaker 2: things play a role with one another. You could say
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Speaker 2: the same thing about the offensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 2: You go back a couple of years for Utah football
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Speaker 2: and it was like, hey, if Dalton kin Kaid's available,
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Speaker 2: you got a shot. And probably for some of you,
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Speaker 2: if Bran Keith he's not, who are we giving this
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Speaker 2: ball to? Who is going to be Who's going to
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Speaker 2: be the guy we can rely on. I mean, you
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Speaker 2: go back to a couple of seasons ago, a bad
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Speaker 2: year for Utah football, Mackai Bernard was like the the
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Speaker 2: non quarterback difference maker. If he's healthy and good and
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Speaker 2: productive in a rough year, you at least have a shot.
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Speaker 2: If McKay Bernard has banged up, unavailable, doesn't get enough touches, whatever,
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Speaker 2: you're not winning. And you could do it for every sport.
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Speaker 2: Right We've seen what it looks like for the Utah
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Speaker 2: Mammoth without Logan Cooley for the last several dozen games.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna see how it looks when he's back and
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Speaker 2: the change that that makes, and it's gonna give us
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Speaker 2: a much better sense of a player's true value in
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Speaker 2: the system and a player's true value on the team,
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Speaker 2: and it's not always like this direct especially I mean,
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Speaker 2: I'm using Lane Johnson as the touching point the kickoff
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Speaker 2: for this conversation. Lane Johnson is not scoring a single
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Speaker 2: touchdown for the Eagles. Lane Johnson is not the guy
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Speaker 2: who's running for the yardage. Lane Johnson is not the
22:59
Speaker 2: guy who's thrown for the yardage. He's not the guy
23:01
Speaker 2: who's catching the passes. Lane Johnson is a link in
23:05
Speaker 2: a chain that is strong and efficient and good when
23:10
Speaker 2: he's there and is less than when he's not. And
23:17
Speaker 2: you look at him and it's like, well, it's kind
23:18
Speaker 2: of obvious. He's maybe the biggest freak athlete playing offensive
23:21
Speaker 2: tackle in the league right now. He's also an incredibly
23:25
Speaker 2: experienced guy. He's also gonna be a Hall of Famer.
23:29
Speaker 2: So when you take a Hall of Famer out of
23:31
Speaker 2: a lineup, of course it's going to affect the team.
23:34
Speaker 2: I haven't found the splits for like a Joe Thomas.
23:39
Speaker 2: You probably can't because he was available almost always. Trent
23:43
Speaker 2: Williams for the San Francisco forty nine ers. Right offensive
23:46
Speaker 2: tackles I don't think are supposed like if you take
23:50
Speaker 2: pinay Sewel out of the Detroit Lions lineup? Are the
23:55
Speaker 2: Lions now thirteen games under five hundred over the course
23:58
Speaker 2: of its a decade? Are they fifty games over five
24:02
Speaker 2: hundred because he's in the lineup? Those are Lane Johnson's numbers.
24:07
Speaker 2: That's an insane number. I'm looking at the post game
24:10
Speaker 2: right here. Nathan McKinnon scored the game winning goal with
24:14
Speaker 2: thirty five seconds left in the third period, two seconds
24:17
Speaker 2: left on the cannon of power play. Nathan McKinnon is
24:23
Speaker 2: one of these guys that if we take the plus
24:25
Speaker 2: minus for him, we take the wins above replacement for him,
24:31
Speaker 2: it's probably an insane number. Clayton Keller, Dylan Gunther, Logan
24:37
Speaker 2: Cooley especially, we've seen this. We've seen what it looks
24:40
Speaker 2: like Sergachev, the big time players. Schmaltz this year for
24:46
Speaker 2: the Utah Mammoth. What would the Utah Mammoth be without
24:52
Speaker 2: Schmaltz and his timely contributions, his consistency. Sure, but that
24:57
Speaker 2: games where he just goes out of his mind hat
25:00
Speaker 2: trick incredible, you know, five point games, assists all over
25:04
Speaker 2: the place. I don't know. I was taken off guard
25:09
Speaker 2: by that conversation again on the Dan Patrick Replacement Show,
25:15
Speaker 2: where they were talking about an offensive lineman and they
25:21
Speaker 2: were saying, hey, this guy is worth sixty games. If
25:28
Speaker 2: you have him sixty the disparity between what you're gonna
25:32
Speaker 2: lose and what you're gonna win over the course of
25:34
Speaker 2: his career is fifty games over five hundred when you
25:40
Speaker 2: got him thirteen games under five hundred, when you don't
25:42
Speaker 2: a sixty three game swing based on that individual players
25:48
Speaker 2: availability as an offensive lineman. You go back to this
25:54
Speaker 2: Utah football season where you had two offensive tackles that
25:59
Speaker 2: were obviously in edibly important. The all offensive line was,
26:02
Speaker 2: but two offensive linemen that were so much a part
26:05
Speaker 2: of your team identity and the physical tone that you
26:09
Speaker 2: were trying to set and everything else. I mean, what
26:16
Speaker 2: would you have been? What could you have been without
26:18
Speaker 2: Fono and Lomu. You don't have that stat thankfully, not
26:24
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty six season. I don't want to
26:27
Speaker 2: know what it looked like. We're gonna have a conversation
26:31
Speaker 2: with Sean Mooney. We're gonna talk some Big twelve basketball.
26:33
Speaker 2: We're talking some running uths basketball. Canada right now is wondering, well,
26:41
Speaker 2: how much What would our record look like if Darren
26:43
Speaker 2: Peterson played in every single game? And yes, they have
26:46
Speaker 2: maximized their abilities without it. Canada is they say Canada
26:51
Speaker 2: Kansas Sidney Crosby, because Kansas is thinking about what, well
26:56
Speaker 2: Darren Peterson like cramps or illness or whatever, what would
27:05
Speaker 2: what would our what would our war rating be on
27:08
Speaker 2: him if he was just available? Instead, like you get
27:11
Speaker 2: that data with him. Unfortunately, BYU is going to be
27:14
Speaker 2: getting some data on what they look like without Richie
27:18
Speaker 2: Saunders versus what they look like with Richie Saunders in
27:21
Speaker 2: the most unfortunate situation possible. Yeah, isn't it that you
27:25
Speaker 2: just don't you don't want the data? Yep, So you.
27:28
Speaker 3: Don't want the data, like like you you mentioned Joe Thomas,
27:31
Speaker 3: Probably not much data there because he dang your stud.
27:35
Speaker 2: Right, I mean the Utah Jazz. Well we we actually
27:39
Speaker 2: we've been talking about this, right. The San Antonio Spurs
27:44
Speaker 2: had some really detailed and incredible data on what their
27:48
Speaker 2: wins look like versus when they had David Robinson versus
27:52
Speaker 2: when they didn't have David Robinson back in those days.
27:55
Speaker 2: And they were like David Robinson when he plays six
27:57
Speaker 2: games that gives us a lot of David Robinson. When
28:01
Speaker 2: he plays eighty one games or eighty two games or
28:04
Speaker 2: seventy five games, he gives us a run to the playoffs.
28:07
Speaker 2: The NBA is where this is most obvious and evident,
28:10
Speaker 2: probably because teams do it on purpose. But I was
28:16
Speaker 2: blown away, like, I'm sure the quarterback game differential availability
28:21
Speaker 2: or not gives you the kind of swing that we
28:25
Speaker 2: talked about, or they talked about on Two Pros and
28:27
Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe this morning in Dan Patrick's place.
28:32
Speaker 2: I never would have been a trillion year's guest that
28:36
Speaker 2: an offensive tackle, especially one as often injured as Lane Johnson,
28:40
Speaker 2: had those types of numbers.
28:46
Speaker 3: So he missed, he missed a ton of games. I
28:48
Speaker 3: guess I didn't realize that.
28:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's missed game. I think he's only had two
28:52
Speaker 2: seasons in thirteen seasons where he's played every game. Oh really, wow.
28:56
Speaker 3: Trent Williams been more durable than that over his career,
29:00
Speaker 3: but recently not quite. He had to hold out, saying also, well,
29:06
Speaker 3: that's another thing about offensive linemen in particular. I think
29:11
Speaker 3: that availability and durability is one of the ways that
29:16
Speaker 3: you get put in the conversation that we're having with
29:19
Speaker 3: like Pinay Sewell and Trent Williams and Mylatta and Tyrone
29:23
Speaker 3: Smith and like some of these guys that we worfs,
29:27
Speaker 3: like these guys that you're like, oh, he might be
29:29
Speaker 3: the best tackle in the league, he might be one
29:31
Speaker 3: of the top five tackles in the league.
29:33
Speaker 2: You don't even get to be part of that conversation
29:37
Speaker 2: in offensive line circles first, because that's who always starts
29:41
Speaker 2: the conversation, and certainly not beyond beyond offensive line conversations
29:46
Speaker 2: unless you are available, like Darren Peterson. Good thing you're
29:50
Speaker 2: a point guard, because if you were an offensive lineman,
29:54
Speaker 2: your name is never You don't even get to be there.
29:57
Speaker 2: No one's like, oh, do you see how talented when
29:59
Speaker 2: it's offensive? You see how freakishly talented this guy is
30:02
Speaker 2: who never plays. Nobody does that. I guess there's one example.
30:09
Speaker 2: I could think of. One example. We did that with
30:11
Speaker 2: Walker Little, the guy that was at Stanford and got
30:14
Speaker 2: injured twice and sat out two years and then entered
30:18
Speaker 2: the draft anyway and was a second round pick and
30:21
Speaker 2: a Day one starter. Like He's the only example I
30:24
Speaker 2: can think of, And that was I think because everyone
30:28
Speaker 2: knew that, first of all, the injury was legitimate, but
30:33
Speaker 2: also that they had watched him for so long and
30:36
Speaker 2: they knew that he was built the way that he
30:38
Speaker 2: was built, and they were just like, I mean, this kid,
30:41
Speaker 2: if he hadn't been injured, would have been a top
30:44
Speaker 2: five pick. They're clearly confident that he's going to recover
30:47
Speaker 2: from this injury, and our medical staff is going to
30:50
Speaker 2: keep him on the field too. And look how it
30:52
Speaker 2: works out. He's been a decade long starter almost now
30:56
Speaker 2: in the NFL. All right, I gotta take a break
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Speaker 2: here on the Sean O'Connell Show, we come back talk
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Speaker 2: a little running YouTube's Sean Mooney, color analyst on all
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Speaker 2: the Utah radio broadcasts, alongside Bill Riley, will join us.
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Speaker 1: To a tune to the Sean o'connall show for the
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Speaker 1: one am.
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Speaker 2: All the damn Well, Welcome into the Sean O'Connell Show
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Speaker 2: once again. Welcome Shawn Mooney, color analyst on the Utah
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Speaker 2: basketball radio broadcast. The Walk Shawn's Together Again, Sean, how
31:54
Speaker 2: are you.
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Speaker 4: I'm geishan, how are you? I like that? We gotta
31:58
Speaker 4: do something with that. You know you already do something
32:00
Speaker 4: with yours. I don't do much with mine, you know,
32:03
Speaker 4: I get it just kind of fill in every once
32:05
Speaker 4: in a while when Bill nudges me underneath the table.
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Speaker 2: We got to figure it out. I don't know, the
32:11
Speaker 2: Walk Shawn's podcast or something.
32:13
Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. It'd be good. It'd
32:15
Speaker 4: be good for us at least. How are you, brother?
32:17
Speaker 4: What's going on?
32:18
Speaker 2: Matt? Well, you know, like we cling to the good
32:21
Speaker 2: stuff because it's been a rough season for Utah men's basketball,
32:25
Speaker 2: and we kind of anticipated there'd be some significant growing pains.
32:29
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I didn't know they would be this profound.
32:32
Speaker 2: But part of that's just because of how good this
32:34
Speaker 2: Big Twelve Conference is, and so, you know, going on
32:38
Speaker 2: the road to West Virginia, I'm like, Okay, that's a
32:40
Speaker 2: winnable game. I don't know how much confidence I had
32:43
Speaker 2: that they were going to win it. And lo and
32:44
Speaker 2: behold and you jump out to a big lead, they're
32:48
Speaker 2: able to cling on to it, buy their fingernails at
32:50
Speaker 2: the end. Yeah, and you win sixty one fifty six,
32:54
Speaker 2: and that's that's a good win. That's a very tough
32:56
Speaker 2: road environment. It's your first road win of the year. Yeah,
33:00
Speaker 2: it's it's a building block, even if it's a small
33:03
Speaker 2: one in my opinion.
33:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, Sean exactly good, good description. Man. I
33:08
Speaker 4: think everyone kind of feels the same way, right, So
33:10
Speaker 4: obviously all the support staff, the coaches. You know, Alex
33:15
Speaker 4: talks a lot about being even killed, and I think
33:18
Speaker 4: anyone that's watching the game can tell that he gets
33:22
Speaker 4: a little hot. And if you can't tell, get a
33:25
Speaker 4: little closer. If there's some seats in the Hunts and Center,
33:28
Speaker 4: come on in and watch us. I think he even
33:32
Speaker 4: you know, felt the sense of relief and and Sean like,
33:34
Speaker 4: in the last five games we've been pretty good. Like
33:37
Speaker 4: we've been good, especially defensively. We haven't been great offensively
33:42
Speaker 4: that that's probably getting worse, but our defense has kept
33:46
Speaker 4: us in the game, and man, did it feel good? Uh?
33:49
Speaker 4: You know this. We get to spend some time in
33:51
Speaker 4: the hotels with the with the teams, and we kind
33:54
Speaker 4: of get to know them and say do and I
33:56
Speaker 4: become kind of buddies. I don't know if they do
33:58
Speaker 4: feel that way, but I Do, and he and I
34:00
Speaker 4: were talking before the game, and you know, it's just
34:03
Speaker 4: been a long season. Man, it's hard when you lose,
34:06
Speaker 4: so and he's been an instrumental part in the last
34:09
Speaker 4: five games. Ova Manty didn't make it to Kansas, Shan
34:12
Speaker 4: and say Do ended up playing at a different position
34:16
Speaker 4: than he normally does. And you saw him do that
34:19
Speaker 4: against West Virginia. He was on their best score on
34:22
Speaker 4: a huff and I mean he was outstanding. He was
34:25
Speaker 4: locked down. But buy Sean, did it feel good?
34:29
Speaker 2: So give me the detailed assessment the I actually no
34:34
Speaker 2: ball assessment of why it worked in Utah's favor this time,
34:38
Speaker 2: because look, they they've played good ball against better teams
34:42
Speaker 2: and had those be losses. They played they played bad
34:45
Speaker 2: ball against worst teams probably and had those still be losses,
34:48
Speaker 2: and this one ended up. I mean, that's a it's
34:51
Speaker 2: kind of a middle of the road big twelve team.
34:53
Speaker 2: West Virginia is no slouch. They're a bubble team. And
34:56
Speaker 2: so why did it work this time where in previous
35:00
Speaker 2: game maybe hasn't.
35:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm going to go to the Cincinnati game
35:04
Speaker 4: to put this into perspective. So we were up five
35:07
Speaker 4: with under two minutes and then we're up three with
35:10
Speaker 4: a shooting free throws. TV was shooting free throws with
35:12
Speaker 4: a minute twenty four. Frankly, we should have won that game.
35:16
Speaker 4: And we've been progressing in the right direction since Kansas.
35:20
Speaker 4: We're probably not going to be Obviously we're not going
35:22
Speaker 4: to be Kansas or Houston. Those are two of our losses.
35:25
Speaker 4: But what I think the big change, Shawn has been
35:28
Speaker 4: our defensive intensity. And then coach Jensen has really been
35:31
Speaker 4: preaching a fast start, and I think we start faster
35:35
Speaker 4: on the road than at home. And I don't know why,
35:37
Speaker 4: and i'd have to back that up with actually, you know,
35:40
Speaker 4: digging out the statistics, but we did both in Cincinnati
35:43
Speaker 4: and West Virginia. The start in West Virginia just really
35:48
Speaker 4: made a difference because the crowd wasn't in it. And
35:50
Speaker 4: then what West Virginia has done well this year is
35:53
Speaker 4: they've come back in the last two of the three games.
35:55
Speaker 4: They came back from fourteen down at Cincinnati and at UCU,
35:59
Speaker 4: who were we're going to get Saturday and one And
36:02
Speaker 4: I even said it on the broadcast, don and you know,
36:04
Speaker 4: there's like this, you don't want to jinx it that's
36:06
Speaker 4: not true. You're not going to jinx it. But I
36:08
Speaker 4: said it. Then of course they start rolling back, and
36:10
Speaker 4: also in the crowds in it. And I think, honestly,
36:13
Speaker 4: I think our kids had just kind of had enough
36:17
Speaker 4: and you could feel a little different temperament. It wasn't
36:21
Speaker 4: that we were initially better offensively, but I just think
36:24
Speaker 4: defensively we did just enough to actually win that game.
36:27
Speaker 4: And it was fun to watch.
36:29
Speaker 2: That word you just use temperament for a team that
36:33
Speaker 2: lacks talent to go head to head with everyone in
36:37
Speaker 2: the league right now, and unfortunately that's where you're at
36:40
Speaker 2: on your roster. Temperament becomes so much more important. And
36:43
Speaker 2: you know, you can use other words for it. We
36:45
Speaker 2: call it culture, we call it you know, team identity, whatever,
36:48
Speaker 2: But that temperament in these final few games I think
36:52
Speaker 2: has to be massively important for Utah. How much can
36:55
Speaker 2: you can you see this West Virginia win helping to
36:58
Speaker 2: maintain it?
37:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, sen A Ton and I've got it. So I
37:03
Speaker 4: think that in Kansas State, So Kansas State, going back
37:06
Speaker 4: to on the road, Kansas State, we im floated in
37:09
Speaker 4: the second half, and I won't go into details, but
37:11
Speaker 4: we did and it should have. That's a game that
37:14
Speaker 4: was winnable for us because they had two of their
37:15
Speaker 4: best players out and then we kind of went into
37:18
Speaker 4: a little telspin after the Kansas State game and then
37:21
Speaker 4: to do the coach's credit into the athletes credit, they've
37:25
Speaker 4: maintained this kind of temperament that we're talking about, and
37:29
Speaker 4: you really the only way you can do it, Sean,
37:31
Speaker 4: is on the defensive end, in my opinion, because if
37:33
Speaker 4: you don't have a good defensive mindset, meaning paying attention
37:38
Speaker 4: to your assignment, understanding how to communicate, then you're never
37:42
Speaker 4: going to win in the Big twelve, like the Big Like.
37:43
Speaker 4: West Virginia is a great example, Sean, because their temperament,
37:47
Speaker 4: their first year coach, all brand new players, a lot
37:50
Speaker 4: of mid mid mid level players playing up. Their temperament
37:54
Speaker 4: as a team is to communicate effectively and to take
37:57
Speaker 4: things away. And what we did on offense in this
38:00
Speaker 4: game against West Virginia was TV, who's been so good
38:03
Speaker 4: going north sound TV actually got in the paint and
38:07
Speaker 4: he passed, and Sean, we're a totally different team. When
38:11
Speaker 4: he does that, we all of a sudden because he's
38:14
Speaker 4: going to draw someone, so he's got someone open to
38:16
Speaker 4: pass too, and then they do hit big shots in
38:19
Speaker 4: the corner. Josh Hayes, Oh my gosh, a kid who
38:22
Speaker 4: had a tough, tough game against Cincinnati came back and
38:25
Speaker 4: was just a difference maker for us. So yeah, I
38:27
Speaker 4: see this change. I mean, like UCF is there two
38:31
Speaker 4: point four above the bubble, their their labs above there.
38:35
Speaker 4: They should be in the tournament and we've got them coming.
38:38
Speaker 4: So that's that's a I mean, we've got an opportunity
38:40
Speaker 4: to have a lot of fun at the end of
38:42
Speaker 4: the season.
38:43
Speaker 2: So let's let's get a little bit more into the
38:45
Speaker 2: UCF contest because like you said, they're they're a quality team,
38:49
Speaker 2: they're a good team. Does high altitude swing for these
38:52
Speaker 2: big twelve teams, especially Orlando's like below sea level? I mean,
38:56
Speaker 2: you could have an advantage at home here, So how
39:01
Speaker 2: do you exploit that?
39:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, a couple of things. So it depends on
39:05
Speaker 4: when they get here, right, So if they get here Thursday,
39:09
Speaker 4: that's going to help them. They probably will. And then
39:11
Speaker 4: the second on the on the high mountain swings away
39:14
Speaker 4: was the hardest, right, that's going to be b why
39:15
Speaker 4: you Tuesday night? You could argue that we're going to
39:18
Speaker 4: wear them out a little. I mean, these are highly
39:20
Speaker 4: conditioned athletes. Even the altitude, I don't think it's going
39:24
Speaker 4: to make a bunch of a difference. A minimum amount
39:27
Speaker 4: of this team UCF is deep, they go nine ten,
39:31
Speaker 4: they're super long, and they're a little bit older. Like
39:34
Speaker 4: their experiences is good, it's high. I don't I don't
39:38
Speaker 4: necessarily think we're going to exploit that. They like the
39:40
Speaker 4: fast break. Maybe in that regard it'll be a little
39:43
Speaker 4: easier for us to have a transition defense against a
39:45
Speaker 4: team that may run. But you know what they're going
39:48
Speaker 4: to be. They're going to be good, and we have
39:50
Speaker 4: a chance to knock up a team that could be
39:53
Speaker 4: playing in the tournament.
39:55
Speaker 2: I want to ask you some big picture questions because
39:58
Speaker 2: you know you're a hoops guy. Yeah, so, uh, Kansas
40:02
Speaker 2: has this. I don't know if they would call it
40:06
Speaker 2: a problem. To me, it feels like a bit of
40:07
Speaker 2: a problem where you've got one of the best individual
40:09
Speaker 2: talents in all of college basketball who he'll give you
40:14
Speaker 2: twenty points in a first half and then he'll tell
40:16
Speaker 2: you in the second half I'm done. And I don't
40:20
Speaker 2: want to dismiss the possibility that there's a real medical
40:24
Speaker 2: situation that he cramps easier than everyone else on the
40:27
Speaker 2: planet cramps. But it feels like even Bill self is
40:31
Speaker 2: starting to wonder what the heck he's supposed to do
40:34
Speaker 2: with Darren Peterson. And you know, you've been in these
40:37
Speaker 2: locker rooms, You've been on these teams and around these teams. Yeah,
40:42
Speaker 2: what are we doing with Kansas? And what is Darren
40:44
Speaker 2: Peterson doing with Kansas?
40:47
Speaker 4: Yeah? I like your question, Like I want to say, like,
40:50
Speaker 4: so I have a physiology background. My degree is in
40:53
Speaker 4: excess for science, so I could arguably be a little
40:56
Speaker 4: bit of an expert about this. There are some athletes
40:59
Speaker 4: there just they're like high wire athletes and you know
41:02
Speaker 4: this Sean, and they're kind of like thoroughbreds. Maybe that's
41:05
Speaker 4: Darren Peterson. I don't know. I mean when we saw him,
41:09
Speaker 4: he seemed to be floating a little bit in the
41:12
Speaker 4: game we played, but then he was sick in the
41:14
Speaker 4: next game, so maybe he didn't feel great. If I
41:17
Speaker 4: had to look at just me and I'm just watching
41:20
Speaker 4: him from the sideline close, I look at aj deband
41:23
Speaker 4: center look Darren Peterson, and to me, A Jadvanca plays
41:26
Speaker 4: with a great temperament all the time, wants to learn,
41:29
Speaker 4: wants to get better, wants to defend. I didn't see
41:32
Speaker 4: that in the in the minutes I saw with Darren Peterson.
41:35
Speaker 4: But Kansas is really good. They like each other this
41:38
Speaker 4: year they have a totally different field, but doing this
41:42
Speaker 4: big time player, Melvin councilor's Melvin Council is the difference
41:46
Speaker 4: on that team. So then you throw on Darreon Peterson,
41:48
Speaker 4: who's the star level, maybe at the next level, and
41:51
Speaker 4: maybe you just get what you get out of him
41:53
Speaker 4: and then let everyone else get it done right. That's
41:56
Speaker 4: what I would say.
41:57
Speaker 2: And they've done a good job of that, and Bill
41:59
Speaker 2: self has made that point in his Policy's like, look,
42:01
Speaker 2: we're getting used to playing without him, and we're pretty
42:03
Speaker 2: good playing without him, which if I'm him, that probably
42:07
Speaker 2: feels like a bit of a shot, whether it's intended
42:09
Speaker 2: so or not, but man, it's a really odd situation.
42:13
Speaker 2: And then there's there's teams, really good teams in this
42:17
Speaker 2: conference that have had significant injuries don't have to go far.
42:21
Speaker 2: Richie Saunders is a very important player for BYU. Hate
42:24
Speaker 2: to see that happen for him, whether you like BYU
42:27
Speaker 2: or not, He's an easy guy to root for, and
42:30
Speaker 2: you know, now he's out for the year. I don't
42:32
Speaker 2: think it. I don't think it bodes well for BYU obviously,
42:36
Speaker 2: but can they make a deep run in the Big
42:39
Speaker 2: Twelve tournament and the NCAA Tournament without him?
42:43
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, Like, and I'm I want to shout
42:45
Speaker 4: out to Richie Saunders and then obviously JT. Topping. I've
42:48
Speaker 4: actually tore my a salm amsalem choun. You've had injuries.
42:51
Speaker 4: They suck and it's not easy to come back from.
42:55
Speaker 4: And I agree with you. I think Richie Sanders epitomized
42:57
Speaker 4: what be what you basketball was in so many levels,
43:00
Speaker 4: and I hope he gets better and has a great career,
43:03
Speaker 4: saying with JT. Toppin yeah, I think the way I
43:06
Speaker 4: think I kind of followed a string this morning. And
43:09
Speaker 4: then there's some I mean, we both know there's some
43:10
Speaker 4: crazy people on social media, but man, people are so
43:14
Speaker 4: some people are so down like they're fans, and I
43:16
Speaker 4: think that's a big mistake. I mean, they have the
43:19
Speaker 4: best player in the in the Big twelve, probably in
43:21
Speaker 4: aj Debanta. You can ride right ride that kid. I mean,
43:25
Speaker 4: he's he's really good. And the other guys have got
43:27
Speaker 4: to step up. CABA's got to step up. I love
43:30
Speaker 4: rob Right. Defensively, they've been bad the last five games.
43:33
Speaker 4: They got to get better defensively. That doesn't that's not
43:36
Speaker 4: about a star. That's about them figuring it out and defending.
43:39
Speaker 4: They've got to do that. But yeah, I mean I
43:42
Speaker 4: don't think there's pick to goes deep now. Obviously Richie
43:45
Speaker 4: Sanders NBA level shooter space of the floor. No one
43:49
Speaker 4: else is doing that. Dawson Baker is a big loss
43:51
Speaker 4: for them. You know, people don't talk about that. But yeah,
43:55
Speaker 4: I think they have the chance to make a run
43:57
Speaker 4: they got I think maybe they have the best player
43:59
Speaker 4: in the league.
44:01
Speaker 2: You also mentioned Topping, uh and that's another big injury,
44:05
Speaker 2: another really unfortunate injury. Yeah, what does the what does
44:09
Speaker 2: the prognosis look like for that squad without JT.
44:12
Speaker 4: Toppin. I mean, like Sean they he's the big squad
44:15
Speaker 4: player of the year, and I don't know anyone they got.
44:19
Speaker 4: I really like Texas Tech, I really like McCaslin and
44:22
Speaker 4: how they play, and they put great pieces around that
44:26
Speaker 4: that Their main player, Topping Chris Christian Anderson. He's a
44:31
Speaker 4: pros pro right now, obviously I like Lawan, watch that
44:35
Speaker 4: that kid sat in my lap a senior banquet. Walter
44:37
Speaker 4: Watts soon and then Donovan Atwell is a high level defender,
44:42
Speaker 4: can really shoot it. Petty another good player. But how
44:45
Speaker 4: do you put who do who takes GT Topping spot.
44:47
Speaker 4: I don't know that Luke Bamboya can do it. He's
44:50
Speaker 4: a nice feeling, but that totally. I think they were
44:53
Speaker 4: a team that could win it all and without GT
44:55
Speaker 4: Topping it's going to be hard.
44:57
Speaker 2: All right, So handicap the best teams in the twelve
45:00
Speaker 2: right now, given all of this context with injuries and
45:05
Speaker 2: cramping and whatever else, as we get closer and closer
45:09
Speaker 2: to tournament time, right now, who are the best teams
45:11
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve?
45:13
Speaker 4: All right? It's super easy. If Houston Intel, Houston loses
45:17
Speaker 4: the Big Twelve, period always gonna be then Iowas think,
45:21
Speaker 4: then Arizona, and then I'm gonna have to I'm gonna
45:25
Speaker 4: slide Kansas up because JT. Toppin got hurt, and then
45:29
Speaker 4: Texas Tech and then after Texas Tech, it's anyone's game.
45:33
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna put the Uyu in there.
45:37
Speaker 2: You see one of those teams before the end of
45:39
Speaker 2: the year. For this running Nets regular season, it'll be
45:42
Speaker 2: Iowa State next week, you seef this weekend, then Arizona State,
45:47
Speaker 2: Colorado and Baylor. Sean Mooney will be on the call
45:50
Speaker 2: with Bill Riley for all of those games right here
45:52
Speaker 2: on your home of the UTESPN seven hundred and ninety TWOEFM. Sean,
45:56
Speaker 2: thanks for joining me today. As always, I hope you will.
45:59
Speaker 4: Thanks. Sean.
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Speaker 2: more hot Lunch. I have been looking so forward to
47:00
Speaker 2: this hot Lunch because Burger Fusion is in the house,
47:04
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Speaker 2: here again. I don't know what he brought today. My
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Speaker 2: mouth is already starting to water. We got lots of
47:14
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47:19
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47:28
Speaker 2: first and then kirch Schmidt. It's the Sean O'Connell Show
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Speaker 2: Hot Lunch next on a Friday, ESPN seven hundred and
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Speaker 4: Who you were.
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Speaker 1: Listening to The Sean O'Connell Show From the Murdoch Hyundai
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Speaker 1: Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to one
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Speaker 1: af AM.
47:51
Speaker 2: Hot Lunch Time here on the Sean O'Connell show. And
47:54
Speaker 2: you may have noticed my excitement over the hot lunches
47:57
Speaker 2: this week because burger Fusion a true revelation. It's at
48:02
Speaker 2: Trolley Square. It's right around the corner on the west side,
48:06
Speaker 2: kind of the southwest side of Whole Foods, and right
48:11
Speaker 2: behind the trolley itself, which is in the middle of
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Speaker 2: the complex. So far, Mike here in studio with us.
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Speaker 2: So far, sir, you are batting a thousand. Every appetizer,
48:20
Speaker 2: every sauce, every burger so far has been incredible. Your
48:24
Speaker 2: attention to detail on these flavor combinations. You're like a
48:28
Speaker 2: real chef, like a big boy, like a real chef.
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Speaker 5: I'm absolutely not a trained chef, but I definitely love.
48:34
Speaker 2: To cook well. That comes through in the food. And
48:38
Speaker 2: you've brought an excellent spread again today. I'm going to
48:42
Speaker 2: start with this one. I'm putting it up to our camera.
48:44
Speaker 2: I see a little peak of pastrami on top of
48:47
Speaker 2: this burger. A tried and true tradition in Utah's you
48:50
Speaker 2: take burgers and you throw more meat on top of them.
48:53
Speaker 2: So what's this bet?
48:53
Speaker 5: Absolutely so, I like to switch up cheeses too on
48:57
Speaker 5: the burgers. So this is our burger with a some pastrami,
49:00
Speaker 5: but it has Provolone cheese and then it has a
49:03
Speaker 5: good amount of slaw on it and it has some
49:04
Speaker 5: Russian dressing. I think it's the perfect combo. We don't
49:07
Speaker 5: overload it with wastrami because I still want you to
49:09
Speaker 5: taste the burger, but it does add to it definitely.
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Speaker 2: Well, we were talking about is James and I were
49:15
Speaker 2: talking about this because You've got all these amazing burgers
49:17
Speaker 2: and like the Capraisee burger has that kind of freshness
49:20
Speaker 2: to it, and blue cheese is not even my favorite thing,
49:23
Speaker 2: and you send in the blue Burger, blue Ribbon, the
49:26
Speaker 2: blue Ribbon burger, and I was like, oh wow, that
49:28
Speaker 2: is really really good. But the patty carries the whole
49:33
Speaker 2: burger too, so you could just I mean, you could
49:35
Speaker 2: put just that patty, no slaw, no sauce, no anything
49:38
Speaker 2: between buns, and it would be amazing. Yeah.
49:40
Speaker 5: So I can't remember if I said on Monday that
49:42
Speaker 5: we get our beef from It's a combination of chuck
49:46
Speaker 5: from Double R Ranch in Idaho and American wagoo from
49:49
Speaker 5: Snake River Farms, and then I have a little sauce
49:51
Speaker 5: I put in it, but just the meat itself. The
49:54
Speaker 5: uh talk about attention to details. Snake River Farms does
49:57
Speaker 5: it right. I love everything they it out, but we
50:01
Speaker 5: definitely wanted to start with getting our meat from them.
50:03
Speaker 2: And I think you called this burger again. Look at
50:06
Speaker 2: it on the YouTube the wasabi tsunami?
50:08
Speaker 4: Is that right?
50:08
Speaker 6: Yeah?
50:09
Speaker 5: So the wasabi tsunami is something that most people probably
50:11
Speaker 5: haven't tried. They get scared about the word with sabbi,
50:15
Speaker 5: but we go light. It's not straight with sabby. It's
50:17
Speaker 5: a wassabi aoli. We take the patty, we bred it
50:21
Speaker 5: in tempura and paincoat breadcrumbs and then actually fry it up,
50:26
Speaker 5: put Jack G's on top, and then we put some
50:29
Speaker 5: of that with sabbi aoli, some slaw and finish it
50:31
Speaker 5: off with little kats usauce.
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Speaker 2: Well, if you're a person out there and you're like, oh,
50:35
Speaker 2: was sabi that's gonna be too spicy for me, you
50:37
Speaker 2: might feel the same way whenever you see jabignio on
50:41
Speaker 2: a menu. And we were talking about this before we
50:44
Speaker 2: came on air. Your mango haabernio dipping sauce. It's flavorful
50:49
Speaker 2: and the heat does not ruin your tongue for the
50:52
Speaker 2: rest of the meal. The heat does not make you sweat.
50:55
Speaker 2: It's got a teeny little kick to it, but it's
50:57
Speaker 2: about the flavor and the spice rather than just like
51:00
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blow towards your mouth.
51:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say it's less hot than most hotjlapeno
51:05
Speaker 5: sauces that I've tried. It has a great little kick
51:09
Speaker 5: up front, but like you said, doesn't linger throughout the
51:11
Speaker 5: whole meal and kind of ruin the taste profile of
51:14
Speaker 5: everything else that you're eating.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like this is an infomercial because we
51:18
Speaker 2: went through two burgers now. But wait, wait, there's more.
51:22
Speaker 2: You call these the Cuban cigars.
51:24
Speaker 5: The Cuban cigars. That's basically a Cuban sandwich in an
51:27
Speaker 5: egg roll. It's that one. You really don't even need
51:31
Speaker 5: a sauce with it because it's kind of heavy on
51:32
Speaker 5: the mustard. You definitely have to like mustard. But it's
51:35
Speaker 5: becoming one of the favorites over at the shop.
51:37
Speaker 2: I love it.
51:38
Speaker 5: I eat a couple of those a week at least.
51:41
Speaker 2: And then these are Havardi fried pickles. Is that right?
51:46
Speaker 5: I was gonna save that until Monday, but I need
51:48
Speaker 5: people to come in this weekend and try our fried pickles,
51:51
Speaker 5: because they seriously are one of my favorite things. A
51:55
Speaker 5: deal pickle slice which is nice and crispy, wrapped in
51:58
Speaker 5: a piece of Havardi cheese and then in an egg
52:02
Speaker 5: wanton and fried instead of doing like breading, you know,
52:05
Speaker 5: just the regular breading that a lot of places do,
52:09
Speaker 5: which is good, but I think this is a little
52:11
Speaker 5: twist on it and a little crunchier, and I just
52:13
Speaker 5: think it's awesome in our sweet chili a oly sauce.
52:16
Speaker 2: All right, So I got a plan for all of
52:17
Speaker 2: our listeners right now. Here's what you're gonna do. Okay,
52:19
Speaker 2: You've got men's basketball up at the Huntsman Center this weekend.
52:23
Speaker 2: You've got women's basketball up at the Huntsman Center this weekend,
52:26
Speaker 2: and parking is a bit of a mess on campus
52:28
Speaker 2: right now. So here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna
52:30
Speaker 2: go to Trolley Square. You're gonna park on seventhiest, so
52:33
Speaker 2: you're gonna find a spot in the parking lot at
52:35
Speaker 2: Trolley Square. You're gonna go grab some food from Burger Fusion. Okay,
52:39
Speaker 2: try these Cuban cigars. The have ALREDI Fried pickles. Try
52:43
Speaker 2: it with sabi tsunami. Go get yourself the capraise a burger.
52:46
Speaker 2: You're still doing thesee burger this weekend? We are Yeah,
52:50
Speaker 2: eat there or take it with you. Get on tracks
52:54
Speaker 2: right up to campus. All right, don't worry about the parking.
52:58
Speaker 2: Go watch a game, Go have some fun. Go cheer
53:00
Speaker 2: on the running utes, go cheer on the lady running uts.
53:03
Speaker 2: And you know what, You're gonna be thinking about the
53:05
Speaker 2: burger the whole game. And you're gonna be thinking about
53:08
Speaker 2: the fries, the tallow fries, the whole game. And then
53:10
Speaker 2: you're gonna go back to your car and guess what's
53:12
Speaker 2: gonna be right there? Burger Fusion. So I got lunch
53:16
Speaker 2: and dinner figured out for you. Mike isnert and dessert.
53:19
Speaker 2: I haven't even brought you dessert this week.
53:21
Speaker 5: I totally forgot about our beignetes that are filled with
53:23
Speaker 5: cookie butter or hazel nut, our homemade bread pudding. I
53:27
Speaker 5: do want to just say real quick, we do get
53:29
Speaker 5: really busy on Friday and Saturday nights. So give yourself
53:32
Speaker 5: a little bit more time if you're coming before the game,
53:35
Speaker 5: because I want you to be able to enjoy it
53:36
Speaker 5: and not have to rush through it.
53:38
Speaker 2: Well, there's a reason why you're busy. And the food,
53:41
Speaker 2: I'm I'm telling you, I'm a burger officionado. People, it's
53:46
Speaker 2: hard to impress me with burgers. I've been impressed with
53:50
Speaker 2: every single one of these burgers so far, and I've
53:52
Speaker 2: been waiting in anticipation for the peanut butter one because
53:55
Speaker 2: that's my jam.
53:56
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this. If someone called this
53:59
Speaker 5: a millennial burger spot, would you consider that a compliment?
54:03
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna in this case, if it's coming from me,
54:07
Speaker 2: it's a compliment because yeah, these are unconventional flavor combinations
54:12
Speaker 2: and ingredients on top of a burger, but it's also
54:15
Speaker 2: carefully thought out and the textures all add to the
54:19
Speaker 2: whole experience. And you open these things up and by
54:22
Speaker 2: the way to go, food sometimes can be a bit
54:24
Speaker 2: of a mess. You somehow mastered how to make it
54:27
Speaker 2: not messy and how crazy.
54:28
Speaker 5: Tight and compact in the in the you know clamshell there.
54:32
Speaker 2: Well you've done a great job even of all that.
54:34
Speaker 2: So again, that's an attention to detail thing. But I'm
54:37
Speaker 2: telling you the proportions of ingredients, the ingredients themselves, the
54:41
Speaker 2: quality of the meat, it really all comes through. These
54:44
Speaker 2: burgers are a revelation. This is amazing and it's right
54:48
Speaker 2: at Trolley Square in the heart of our city, one
54:50
Speaker 2: of the best places to go experience Salt Lake and
54:52
Speaker 2: to grab a bite and just enjoy, you know, the
54:55
Speaker 2: charming little shops and all that Burger Fusion.
54:58
Speaker 5: I'm in love right now. Well, thank you, and you
55:01
Speaker 5: know I didn't just throw these together. I truly have
55:03
Speaker 5: been making these burgers for friends for ten years. But
55:06
Speaker 5: real quick, I do want to give a shout out
55:08
Speaker 5: to Charlie Square because they're definitely doing some things to revamp,
55:12
Speaker 5: to upgrade, to you know, bringing in new shops. So
55:16
Speaker 5: I'm very excited to be at Trolley Square. I think
55:18
Speaker 5: it's awesome.
55:19
Speaker 2: I'm excited you're there. I live close by. I'm very
55:23
Speaker 2: very happy you're part of the Sean O'Connell showing the
55:25
Speaker 2: family here at ESPN seven hundred. Thanks for bringing in
55:29
Speaker 2: more great food. You're gonna be back on Monday too.
55:31
Speaker 5: Absolutely for the velvet smoke show that the last burger.
55:35
Speaker 2: Let's go Baby hot lunch coming if you're there. If
55:40
Speaker 2: you're going to Burgerfusion this weekend, tell Mike and the crew.
55:42
Speaker 2: You heard about it on the Sean O'Connell Show. You
55:45
Speaker 2: heard it about it on ESPN seven hundred Lso I
55:47
Speaker 2: got to say.
55:47
Speaker 5: A guy come in the other night and he said, Hey,
55:49
Speaker 5: I want the burger that spends check it Scott last night.
55:52
Speaker 2: Nice.
55:52
Speaker 5: I didn't even know he came in. Well, tell him
55:54
Speaker 5: to say hi next time he comes in.
55:56
Speaker 2: We'll make sure he does. That's Mike for Burger Fusion.
56:00
Speaker 2: Right around the looking at the front doors of Whole
56:03
Speaker 2: Foods at Trolley Square. Just jogg to the left a
56:06
Speaker 2: little bit and enjoy yourself. Some have already fried pickles.
56:11
Speaker 2: Even the fries by themselves, the Tallow fries, the Rosemary fries.
56:15
Speaker 2: Give me a break man. Everything on the menu is incredible, awesome,
56:21
Speaker 2: all right. Uh, we have Craig Bowler Jack next on
56:26
Speaker 2: the road in Memphis, Utah. Jazz back in action after
56:30
Speaker 2: the All Star break, minus a couple of important players.
56:34
Speaker 2: But we'll get to all of it with Bowler. It's
56:37
Speaker 2: the Shan O'Connell Show on ESPN seven.
56:48
Speaker 7: May.
56:54
Speaker 1: It's the Sean O'Connell Show.
56:56
Speaker 2: You were home of the best inside of your us.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to OCN from a Murder Chevrolet Studio
57:03
Speaker 1: of the ESPN seven hundred and ninety.
57:05
Speaker 8: Af Am Sean O'Connell show continues here on a Friday,
57:18
Speaker 8: We're lucky enough to welcome the voice of the Utah
57:21
Speaker 8: Jazz Craig Bowler.
57:22
Speaker 2: Jack in Memphis, Walking in Memphis a great song. By
57:26
Speaker 2: the way, James, you should have bumped us in with
57:28
Speaker 2: Walking in Memphis. That's where Bowler's at. Bowler, how are you, sir?
57:33
Speaker 4: I'm good. Oh see how you doing it?
57:34
Speaker 7: Hey?
57:35
Speaker 9: I don't mind some rush by the way on Friday,
57:37
Speaker 9: Russ Memphis Rush.
57:38
Speaker 2: Is never a bad choice. But how's Memphis treating you?
57:43
Speaker 2: A little?
57:43
Speaker 7: Bird?
57:44
Speaker 2: Told me that you had to cut at vacation short
57:46
Speaker 2: in order to make it on.
57:47
Speaker 9: Time a little bit, but well, we still had a
57:50
Speaker 9: great time. I got a chance to go to Gus's
57:54
Speaker 9: worlds Famous Fried Chicken last night, and it's just it's
57:57
Speaker 9: just a must stop who anyone whoever makes a trip
58:02
Speaker 9: into Memphis Gus's world Famous Fried Chicken.
58:04
Speaker 4: It's terrific.
58:06
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the life of this Utah
58:09
Speaker 2: Jazz team post All Star Break, which, by the way,
58:13
Speaker 2: the NBA All Star Break. Maybe we should start there.
58:15
Speaker 2: It felt like a kind of refreshed perspective, a different
58:19
Speaker 2: take the new format, and obviously we saw the ratings.
58:22
Speaker 2: Things are good. Has the NBA started to fix it's
58:26
Speaker 2: All Star Weekend problems? In your mind?
58:28
Speaker 4: You know it's to start right?
58:30
Speaker 9: Oh see? I think it was more intriguing the way
58:33
Speaker 9: that they do these round robin tournaments to earn a
58:37
Speaker 9: chance to go in for the title.
58:39
Speaker 4: And I like it.
58:40
Speaker 9: It seemed more competitive, It wasn't just a free for
58:42
Speaker 9: all rebound stand back and let guys run down to
58:46
Speaker 9: paint seem more competitive. And it looked like, at least
58:50
Speaker 9: through what the NBA released on ratings, they spiked this year,
58:56
Speaker 9: the interest level was higher. Adam Silver, I think in
58:59
Speaker 9: the lead desperately needing to find new ways to make
59:03
Speaker 9: All Star Weekend let's just say competitive, but more intriguing
59:08
Speaker 9: for the fans right to tune in it. It looks like
59:10
Speaker 9: this year things came around and you have a Damian
59:13
Speaker 9: Lillard who, by the way, jumps off the bench after
59:15
Speaker 9: cheering the Achilles and miraculously wins the three point shooting contest.
59:21
Speaker 9: So yeah, a lot of things fell into place for
59:24
Speaker 9: sure in LA.
59:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to see for the league in that perspective,
59:28
Speaker 2: and I think probably timely and needed because some of
59:31
Speaker 2: the conversation in the league was focusing on some of
59:34
Speaker 2: the negative stuff, and you know, the tanking situation going on,
59:38
Speaker 2: and the Jazz at the center of that controversy, in
59:41
Speaker 2: my mind in a way that was unjustified, pretty unfair.
59:45
Speaker 2: Didn't like the way that the Jazz were singled out.
59:48
Speaker 2: And I'm curious, you know, you're a lot closer to
59:50
Speaker 2: the team than I am. How does it feel like
59:53
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of taking that or took that and maybe
59:55
Speaker 2: has moved on from it now. But the fact that
59:58
Speaker 2: you know, you're doing things that other teams have been
1:00:01
Speaker 2: doing for decades and doing it in a way that
1:00:04
Speaker 2: I think is actually better for the fan because you're
1:00:06
Speaker 2: at least getting to see those star players for a
1:00:08
Speaker 2: half or three quarters or whatever, and yet still punished
1:00:11
Speaker 2: heavily by the league for it. I didn't get to
1:00:15
Speaker 2: talk to players and see how they felt about it.
1:00:17
Speaker 9: Maybe you did, you know, it really came at a
1:00:21
Speaker 9: time where we were breaking for the All Star break,
1:00:24
Speaker 9: and really I got to be honest, so see, not
1:00:27
Speaker 9: much was said about it. I think the Jazz know
1:00:29
Speaker 9: what you know, the storyline is, you know, I didn't
1:00:33
Speaker 9: talk to Justin Zaniki is on this trip. I'm going
1:00:36
Speaker 9: to try to do that sometime today or tonight. And
1:00:40
Speaker 9: you know, the bottom line is, you make a great point.
1:00:42
Speaker 9: This isn't anything new. This has been going on for
1:00:45
Speaker 9: years with multiple teams, and if you look at the
1:00:49
Speaker 9: standings in the West and the East, you know what
1:00:52
Speaker 9: teams are trying to focus on getting a high level
1:00:54
Speaker 9: draft pick, while all of a sudden it's become first,
1:01:00
Speaker 9: you know, and at the forefront of NBA discussions. I
1:01:03
Speaker 9: think it's just at the point where the frustration has
1:01:06
Speaker 9: finally grown to such a high level around the league
1:01:10
Speaker 9: that the fans have spoken as well. On a personal note,
1:01:16
Speaker 9: I mean, oh see. The bottom line is fans come
1:01:19
Speaker 9: up to me all the time and first thing they
1:01:21
Speaker 9: ask is who's playing? And I thought, man, I never
1:01:23
Speaker 9: thought i'd hear that, right, But they're very aware around
1:01:27
Speaker 9: the league on you know, the injury report, and it
1:01:31
Speaker 9: comes out mostly twice a day morning, late afternoon before
1:01:35
Speaker 9: game time, and sometimes we don't even know actually who
1:01:39
Speaker 9: is on that list and who who is going to
1:01:42
Speaker 9: be put on it late or who maybe becomes from
1:01:45
Speaker 9: questionable to probable or available. So it's a test every day,
1:01:51
Speaker 9: every game day to kind of figure out who I'm
1:01:53
Speaker 9: prepping for. But you know, I'm glad to see what
1:01:56
Speaker 9: Shams wrote on ESPN yesterday and what Adam Silver had
1:01:59
Speaker 9: to say and the general managers all got on the
1:02:02
Speaker 9: phone call. I'm sure you're aware of. And you know,
1:02:04
Speaker 9: there's some interesting potential problem solvers in this, in this
1:02:09
Speaker 9: whole you know discussion, and you know, freezing lottery odds
1:02:13
Speaker 9: at the trade deadline.
1:02:16
Speaker 4: You know, no longer.
1:02:17
Speaker 9: Allowing a team to pick in the top four in
1:02:19
Speaker 9: consecutive years. That's pretty intriguing too. So if you make
1:02:22
Speaker 9: a pick, then you got to play. And I just
1:02:25
Speaker 9: hope that they can find answers in the off season.
1:02:28
Speaker 9: You know, there are tanking bylaws that have been semi
1:02:33
Speaker 9: implemented find I don't think personally will probably do the
1:02:38
Speaker 9: trick because this is a money league, and yeah, five
1:02:42
Speaker 9: hundred thousand steep, but I don't know if that really
1:02:45
Speaker 9: deters a team or one hundred grand here or two
1:02:48
Speaker 9: point fifty there. I think you have to get it
1:02:50
Speaker 9: down to basics and making it a little more simplified
1:02:54
Speaker 9: but direct on what you can and cannot do, and
1:02:57
Speaker 9: I think the consecutive years of trying to take that
1:03:01
Speaker 9: has to be tossed out the window. And hopefully you know,
1:03:04
Speaker 9: the competition guys. Oh see, there's so many great athletes
1:03:07
Speaker 9: out there. Fans come to see them play, and I
1:03:09
Speaker 9: think that's what has to That's the first and foremost
1:03:12
Speaker 9: most important thing to me as I watched games call
1:03:15
Speaker 9: games is let's put them on the floor. Let's put
1:03:17
Speaker 9: guys on the floor. Yes the world, they're well paid,
1:03:21
Speaker 9: and let's go play hoop and let's see how it
1:03:23
Speaker 9: turns out.
1:03:23
Speaker 4: I hope we can get back to that.
1:03:25
Speaker 2: Well. I think the nice thing for a lot of
1:03:27
Speaker 2: jazz fans is that it does feel like there's a
1:03:29
Speaker 2: little light at the end of this tunnel with you know, however,
1:03:32
Speaker 2: you could finish this year hopefully keep that first round
1:03:35
Speaker 2: pick protected, but also you made a big trade before
1:03:39
Speaker 2: the deadline. You and I have not had a conversation
1:03:41
Speaker 2: since that happened. And Jared Jackson Juniors shut down because
1:03:44
Speaker 2: of the knee surgery, and so we're not going to
1:03:46
Speaker 2: see what his real contributions to this team will be
1:03:49
Speaker 2: in a practical sense. But man, it's easy to envision
1:03:53
Speaker 2: what that front court can look like if you're able
1:03:55
Speaker 2: to keep Walker Kesseler and you put Jared Jackson Junior
1:03:58
Speaker 2: and Lowry markin is souddenly a three again and all
1:04:01
Speaker 2: of this, I mean the potential is there. Pair that
1:04:04
Speaker 2: with what Keante has done and the potential for a
1:04:07
Speaker 2: high draft pick and further development for Mace Bailey. Now
1:04:10
Speaker 2: we're cooking with some gas here, Bowler, and I know
1:04:12
Speaker 2: I'm telling you things you already know. But the light
1:04:15
Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel is there? What's it
1:04:19
Speaker 2: actually going to look like when it all starts coming together?
1:04:21
Speaker 2: It won't be this year, but do you feel like
1:04:24
Speaker 2: we've got a good sense? Oh?
1:04:26
Speaker 9: I think six months from now we'll be talking high
1:04:29
Speaker 9: level excitement if everybody stays healthy and if you know,
1:04:32
Speaker 9: whatever happens with Walker and restricted free agency. But you
1:04:36
Speaker 9: talk about a very dominant I mean, think about this
1:04:40
Speaker 9: SoC I mean seven footers, galore, athletic and also who
1:04:44
Speaker 9: can step out market and triple j they hit threes.
1:04:49
Speaker 9: Walker defensively on the rim, offensive rebounder, defensive rebounder, shot blocker,
1:04:55
Speaker 9: can get the outlet pass and can run. I mean,
1:04:58
Speaker 9: it's really amazing to think think about just defenses trying
1:05:03
Speaker 9: to figure who they're going to try to cover and
1:05:05
Speaker 9: double team and then drop off from and then the
1:05:08
Speaker 9: Jazz have the potential to take advantage of the switch
1:05:11
Speaker 9: or the mismatches, and then you bring up the back court.
1:05:14
Speaker 9: Kiante has made incredible strides from a year ago, not
1:05:18
Speaker 9: only from you know, his playing ability, but also who
1:05:22
Speaker 9: he is. I think he feels more comfortable in the
1:05:25
Speaker 9: quote skin of Kiante. George understands what it's like to
1:05:29
Speaker 9: be an NBA player and the pressures that go with it.
1:05:32
Speaker 9: And Ace Bailey. You know, of course the Jazz disappointed
1:05:36
Speaker 9: that the number one pick went to Dallas, but you know,
1:05:39
Speaker 9: all things for a reason. I mean, Ace is a
1:05:41
Speaker 9: talented kid with high level potential. I know that gets
1:05:44
Speaker 9: over you some, but I really do what I've seen
1:05:47
Speaker 9: and talking to Will Hardy and Justin Zanik is that, Yeah,
1:05:51
Speaker 9: they're excited about you know, he hasn't even barely put
1:05:55
Speaker 9: his toe in the water of you know, some of
1:05:57
Speaker 9: the abilities that he's shown, say at the rim, incredible talent, strength,
1:06:03
Speaker 9: He's only going to get better, and I think the
1:06:06
Speaker 9: future is bright. You said, the light is shining and
1:06:08
Speaker 9: I think is getting brighter day by day as a
1:06:11
Speaker 9: fan base. You know, moves forward. I mean, the summer
1:06:13
Speaker 9: is going to be fun. Draft Night's going to be wild.
1:06:16
Speaker 9: Off season moves that the Jazz will maker or potentially
1:06:20
Speaker 9: will make with with potential drafts or excuse me, trades,
1:06:24
Speaker 9: and then the draft pick that they're trying to secure
1:06:27
Speaker 9: at number eight. So you know, I always say the
1:06:30
Speaker 9: summer is always fun, it's maybe one of the most,
1:06:32
Speaker 9: but this one may be one of the most important
1:06:35
Speaker 9: off seasons coming the Jazz have've had in a long time,
1:06:38
Speaker 9: and maybe entire during their entire franchise. I know that's
1:06:43
Speaker 9: saying a lot. They've had some great picks, They've had
1:06:45
Speaker 9: moments in time. Dominique Wilkins, you know the draft pick
1:06:51
Speaker 9: sold off for a million to make you know, payroll.
1:06:53
Speaker 9: I mean, that's saved a franchise. This one is big,
1:06:56
Speaker 9: just to move it ahead and to be a real
1:06:58
Speaker 9: competitor again in the West.
1:07:00
Speaker 2: I'm very curious if you had a sense. I guess
1:07:03
Speaker 2: the trade to get Triple J in Town feels like
1:07:07
Speaker 2: old news now because so much has happened since, but
1:07:09
Speaker 2: massively significant accelerates the timeline and all that, and you
1:07:14
Speaker 2: folks sit in the building, did you get a sense that,
1:07:16
Speaker 2: you know, maybe the patients had run out, either from
1:07:19
Speaker 2: the front office, from ownership itself, from the coaches and players, like,
1:07:23
Speaker 2: let's make a move now, Let's not continue to try
1:07:25
Speaker 2: to build through this draft exclusively. Let's find a way
1:07:28
Speaker 2: to make an impact. And you know, it came together
1:07:31
Speaker 2: in a way that none of us expected, at least
1:07:33
Speaker 2: none of us outside looking and expected. Did you get
1:07:36
Speaker 2: any sense was there any rumblings in the building before
1:07:39
Speaker 2: that happened.
1:07:42
Speaker 9: I think that they were if the right deal oc
1:07:47
Speaker 9: was there, they were jumping on it, and they jumped.
1:07:50
Speaker 9: I remember the first time we listened to Austin Ainge
1:07:54
Speaker 9: was that. You know, you remember the quote I believe
1:07:56
Speaker 9: you asked it, am I right when.
1:07:58
Speaker 2: I said, if you won't see tanking here?
1:08:00
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and big game hunting, Well he bagged one,
1:08:05
Speaker 9: sob and you know you get Conchar and Vince Williams Junior.
1:08:10
Speaker 9: That are intriguing additions to that. Jacques Landell was moved,
1:08:16
Speaker 9: but you know, an intriguing trade all the way around.
1:08:19
Speaker 9: A couple of defensive minded guys in Conchar and Vince
1:08:23
Speaker 9: Williams Junior. And we know what Jaron Jackson Junior is
1:08:27
Speaker 9: truly all about. Here's what I was looking for. OC
1:08:30
Speaker 9: was just my first introduction to him, Excuse me, was
1:08:38
Speaker 9: how's he going to react? Is he going to embrace it?
1:08:41
Speaker 9: And I met him in Orlando and yeah, he felt like,
1:08:46
Speaker 9: I think that this is a new beginning, which is
1:08:48
Speaker 9: a good thing. Nearly eight years in Memphis, and the
1:08:51
Speaker 9: Grizzlies have their own issues. I mean, they're they're trying
1:08:54
Speaker 9: to figure things out, and John Moran has lost his
1:08:57
Speaker 9: you know, his trade ability, and so I think I
1:09:01
Speaker 9: think Jaren looked at this as a great opportunity with
1:09:04
Speaker 9: an incredibly young team. He's still young in his own
1:09:08
Speaker 9: own right, Yeah, eight years in this league, but he's
1:09:10
Speaker 9: what twenty six going on twenty seven. So I think
1:09:15
Speaker 9: it's a good deal all the way around. And I
1:09:17
Speaker 9: think he's embraced the Jazz. He's here, He's had successful
1:09:21
Speaker 9: knee surgery that the Jazz found on a post trade
1:09:24
Speaker 9: MRI to remove of growth and that knee, and tonight
1:09:27
Speaker 9: the Grizzlies, I know, are going to roll out the
1:09:29
Speaker 9: red carpet for him to welcome him back and also
1:09:33
Speaker 9: Conchard and Vince Williams Junior will get some love. But
1:09:36
Speaker 9: you know, I think he is good that he's with
1:09:38
Speaker 9: this team at this moment. I think he's building very
1:09:42
Speaker 9: quickly a relationship with marketing with Keyante sins A baw
1:09:48
Speaker 9: Callier Will Hardy, and I think that's really important. Even
1:09:52
Speaker 9: though he may not play I don't know over these
1:09:55
Speaker 9: final twenty six games, but he's a part of the franchise.
1:09:58
Speaker 9: And Walker's here as well, and so this is like again,
1:10:02
Speaker 9: you know, the Kumbaya moment right where you just get
1:10:05
Speaker 9: to know who your new teammates are. And I think
1:10:08
Speaker 9: they're excited themselves as players to know the talent that's
1:10:11
Speaker 9: here and what can happen as they jump into camp
1:10:15
Speaker 9: next September or October.
1:10:16
Speaker 2: A few more minutes with Craig Bowler, Jack here on
1:10:18
Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell show, Voice of the Jazz in Memphis,
1:10:21
Speaker 2: ready to call Jazz Grizzlies. I was going to ask
1:10:24
Speaker 2: you about, you know, kind of the the overall vibe
1:10:26
Speaker 2: of Triple J coming, because there's that narrative that you know,
1:10:30
Speaker 2: sometimes I probably feel the same way a lot of
1:10:33
Speaker 2: fans do, and sometimes I dismiss and I go back
1:10:36
Speaker 2: and forth on it where you're like, oh, it's Salt
1:10:37
Speaker 2: Lake City. It's not the best NBA market for some
1:10:40
Speaker 2: of these young players, for some young African Americans, it
1:10:43
Speaker 2: might be a bit of a culture shock. Whatever. It
1:10:46
Speaker 2: feels like. This ownership group has done a lot in
1:10:50
Speaker 2: making that go away from a I mean, bringing Dwayne
1:10:54
Speaker 2: Wade in from the Ace Bailey situation where it was
1:10:57
Speaker 2: talked about like oh, he doesn't even want to be here,
1:10:59
Speaker 2: and now he's really embrace things. All signs point to
1:11:02
Speaker 2: positivity with Triple J. Like you just mentioned how big
1:11:07
Speaker 2: a role does you know, the roster itself play in
1:11:10
Speaker 2: welcoming these guys and letting them know what it's really
1:11:12
Speaker 2: like here, and of course the coaching staff and all
1:11:16
Speaker 2: the way up to ownership in maybe battling some of
1:11:19
Speaker 2: those narratives that have been fair or unfair about the
1:11:22
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz in Salt Lake City in the NBA circles.
1:11:26
Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:11:26
Speaker 9: Oh see, that's a great question and one that's been
1:11:28
Speaker 9: discussed for years and years about Salt Lake City small market.
1:11:31
Speaker 9: I don't believe it's small market. I believe it's mid market.
1:11:34
Speaker 4: Now.
1:11:34
Speaker 9: Olympics coming again for not the first, for the second time.
1:11:38
Speaker 9: Downtown's growth if you know, look, you're only going to
1:11:43
Speaker 9: be in town for forty one games and right in practice,
1:11:47
Speaker 9: I just I'm a transplant and I don't buy into it.
1:11:52
Speaker 9: I think that salt Lake is intriguing, inviting. The Jazz
1:11:56
Speaker 9: have done a marvelous job within the organization to embrace
1:11:59
Speaker 9: the family of these players as well to introduce them
1:12:04
Speaker 9: uh to the city. And I I I just I
1:12:08
Speaker 9: think when you have a player or two that excel
1:12:12
Speaker 9: and become All Stars and and Jared Jackson Junior is
1:12:15
Speaker 9: a two timer and a defensive Player of the Year
1:12:18
Speaker 9: winner as well, that incites excitement and also it turns
1:12:23
Speaker 9: heads to other players in the league who may be
1:12:25
Speaker 9: looking to make a move and say, hey, salt Lake
1:12:28
Speaker 9: has a young base. I want to be a part
1:12:30
Speaker 9: of it. I think that's the selling point. And I
1:12:34
Speaker 9: it's you know, the Stockton and Malone era. You know
1:12:37
Speaker 9: they got Hornseck and that pushed it to another level.
1:12:40
Speaker 9: With Jerry Sloan, I think the Jazz are kind of
1:12:42
Speaker 9: repeating some history here where you add a piece or
1:12:46
Speaker 9: two with youth through the draft. You got to be
1:12:48
Speaker 9: smart in the draft, and this, this pick this summer
1:12:51
Speaker 9: will be uber important how it fits, if in what
1:12:55
Speaker 9: direction they go. I've always asked, who do you pick?
1:12:57
Speaker 9: Do you go position? You go best player, And it's
1:13:00
Speaker 9: always been best player, you know, and they'll they'll work
1:13:04
Speaker 9: around it the other way. So again, I don't just
1:13:10
Speaker 9: buy this. You know, no one wants to come to Utah.
1:13:13
Speaker 9: I think once they get here, they find out that
1:13:15
Speaker 9: it's a damn good place to play, and the facilities
1:13:18
Speaker 9: are high, high level.
1:13:19
Speaker 4: And I've been to.
1:13:20
Speaker 9: Every arena, every practice facility in the league, and I
1:13:23
Speaker 9: will be the first to tell you I'm sure what
1:13:25
Speaker 9: they're building at Southtown right now is going to be
1:13:27
Speaker 9: about the highest level of any level in the league.
1:13:31
Speaker 9: So I think Utah is on the rise. I mean,
1:13:34
Speaker 9: is it tough right now, Absolutely, But I think fans
1:13:37
Speaker 9: are understanding what Ryan and Ashley are doing and hopefully
1:13:43
Speaker 9: the goals are going to be met. They don't want
1:13:45
Speaker 9: just a quick fix. They want this to be more
1:13:47
Speaker 9: long term, and sometimes those growing pains are tough, and
1:13:50
Speaker 9: I think we're living at right now, but hopefully it
1:13:53
Speaker 9: moves to the next level in a hurry.
1:13:56
Speaker 2: The basketball itself, we all know that you got to
1:13:58
Speaker 2: protect that pick that the NBA has already come down
1:14:02
Speaker 2: with the hammer and tried to find you, and that
1:14:03
Speaker 2: might adjust how things are being done the rest of
1:14:06
Speaker 2: the way. And you know, you've got injury situations to
1:14:10
Speaker 2: manage and to handle and things like that. But I
1:14:13
Speaker 2: imagine these players more than anyone else, are starting to
1:14:16
Speaker 2: feel those rumblings, starting to feel like, hey, what you know,
1:14:19
Speaker 2: we'll be patient, but what is this going to be?
1:14:21
Speaker 2: We got to lay this foundation. Now, what does that
1:14:23
Speaker 2: look like from a basketball perspective? During this final post
1:14:27
Speaker 2: All Star game stretch?
1:14:29
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think tonight's going to be really interesting to see.
1:14:33
Speaker 9: You know what the lineup is. Look, Keyante sprained both
1:14:38
Speaker 9: the left and now the right ankle, and he's been
1:14:41
Speaker 9: cleared out to start this final twenty six game stretch.
1:14:46
Speaker 9: We know Triple J had the the growth and the
1:14:49
Speaker 9: knee removed, so they basically haven't announced the shutdown like
1:14:52
Speaker 9: some teams have. But I doubt we see him the
1:14:57
Speaker 9: bit of time that we did. You felt it, fans
1:15:00
Speaker 9: felt it, We saw it. We lived it with the
1:15:03
Speaker 9: excitement of what potentially could be. So these twenty six
1:15:07
Speaker 9: games I think will be continued to be about development.
1:15:10
Speaker 9: Oh see, there's still kind of that forgotten probably issue
1:15:17
Speaker 9: of evaluation that is so important. There's about five to
1:15:21
Speaker 9: six players that are on the cusp of being a
1:15:26
Speaker 9: part of this long term roster, and there's a few
1:15:31
Speaker 9: that may not be here. And I think that's the
1:15:34
Speaker 9: one thing that we get lost in this discussion is
1:15:36
Speaker 9: that the Philipowski's, the Bryce sins of Oz, the Isaiah Colliers,
1:15:41
Speaker 9: they've made improvement. But is it enough to impress the
1:15:44
Speaker 9: Jazz front office to say we're going to extend when
1:15:49
Speaker 9: the time comes, to keep them in Salt Lake because
1:15:53
Speaker 9: we see them as part of this future, or do
1:15:55
Speaker 9: they move on like they did in the trade with Taylor.
1:15:59
Speaker 9: And you know, Kyle Anderson obviously a well traveled VET
1:16:02
Speaker 9: and a young rookie. I saw Walter Clayton Junior last
1:16:05
Speaker 9: night here in Memphis. You know, he seems to be
1:16:07
Speaker 9: on the upswing and they like him here and hopefully
1:16:09
Speaker 9: he has a great career. But you have to give
1:16:12
Speaker 9: up stuff to get something in return, right as part
1:16:14
Speaker 9: of the whole deal in the NBA and any any
1:16:17
Speaker 9: professional sport. But I still think the evaluation process is
1:16:22
Speaker 9: continuing in these next twenty six games could make or
1:16:25
Speaker 9: break several players future with this franchise. So we'll just
1:16:30
Speaker 9: have to kind of watch it and wait and see
1:16:32
Speaker 9: together honestly, to see again how it plays out and
1:16:35
Speaker 9: who stays and who goes. I remember Will Hardy told
1:16:37
Speaker 9: us this past summer was that, you know, this is
1:16:40
Speaker 9: a quote damn tough business. And it is and some
1:16:45
Speaker 9: make it and some don't. And that's the reality of it.
1:16:47
Speaker 9: Oh see, And I think we're going to see that
1:16:50
Speaker 9: reality as the next twenty six games, you know, are
1:16:52
Speaker 9: played out. Who really elevates their game to it even
1:16:55
Speaker 9: a higher level, and maybe who doesn't. Really the Jazz
1:16:59
Speaker 9: don't have plans for and that's what these twenty six
1:17:02
Speaker 9: games I think will be all about.
1:17:05
Speaker 2: Look, I know you're a busy man. How much Winter
1:17:08
Speaker 2: Olympic coverage are you able to watch?
1:17:12
Speaker 4: You know what?
1:17:12
Speaker 9: I'm loving hockey, both men's and women's, crazy crazy games.
1:17:17
Speaker 9: The US men's team man physical, more physical than I've
1:17:20
Speaker 9: ever seen an Olympic hockey team. I mean, they been
1:17:24
Speaker 9: throwing gloves down pretty crazy. But I have watched skiing.
1:17:30
Speaker 9: I am a curling fan. I gotta be honest, I
1:17:33
Speaker 9: am a curling fan. If I could and someone threw
1:17:36
Speaker 9: a stone my way, I would try to see what
1:17:39
Speaker 9: I could do. But it's a fascinating sport. You did,
1:17:43
Speaker 9: I wouldn't think it, And then you know what, in
1:17:45
Speaker 9: the summer, I'm a I dig ping pong.
1:17:47
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
1:17:48
Speaker 9: You're a ping pong.
1:17:49
Speaker 2: You're a table tennis guy, Bowler? Can you oh yeah,
1:17:52
Speaker 2: can you play?
1:17:53
Speaker 9: I played a lot when I was a kid.
1:17:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot.
1:17:55
Speaker 9: My dad, my dad, I don't know if he wanted
1:17:59
Speaker 9: in a sales contest. The one day at ping pong
1:18:02
Speaker 9: table stood up in the garage, my brother and I
1:18:04
Speaker 9: started just going crazy on it. And I've always loved
1:18:07
Speaker 9: ping pong.
1:18:08
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, enjoy Memphis. Next time we have you
1:18:12
Speaker 2: on well chats and more Olympics. Probably thanks for your
1:18:14
Speaker 2: time today, Bowler, have a great call.
1:18:16
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Speaker 2: a little bit. I was figuring out how good I
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Speaker 3: We're about forty minutes away from Team USA hockey semi final,
1:19:26
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Speaker 2: Yeah, play the whole time. That was so much fun.
1:19:39
Speaker 3: Having the women's game on basically the whole show yesterday
1:19:42
Speaker 3: was awesome. I'm jealous of Spence who gets to have
1:19:44
Speaker 3: a similar experience today with the men's hockey.
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Speaker 2: You know what you should do, uh, we should unplug
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Speaker 2: this TV just a prank spence, so you can't watch it?
1:19:55
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1:20:00
Speaker 2: we got to take a break. RSL about to start
1:20:03
Speaker 2: their season GM. Kurt Schmidt is going to join us.
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Speaker 2: You've got Olympics going on right now. You've got the
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Speaker 2: that we'll be returning shortly after these Olympics are done.
1:20:48
Speaker 2: We've got an NFL draft process coming. It is a
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Speaker 2: busy time to be a sports fan. And guess what,
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Speaker 2: Real Salt Lake adding itself to the mix. First game
1:20:59
Speaker 2: tomorrow against the Vancouver white Caps. We're lucky enough to
1:21:04
Speaker 2: catch up with Kirch Mitcheap's soccer officer down at Real
1:21:07
Speaker 2: Salt Lake head of the season opener. Kurt, Welcome to
1:21:11
Speaker 2: the show. How are you. I'm good, How are you
1:21:14
Speaker 2: doing all right? Thanks for giving us some time today.
1:21:18
Speaker 2: Is there anything do you have, like a tradition, a ritual.
1:21:21
Speaker 2: Do you have something that you you get out of
1:21:23
Speaker 2: the way before the season begins? Because the MLS season
1:21:26
Speaker 2: is this marathon, and I imagine you know, it takes
1:21:29
Speaker 2: up a lot of your time and all of your
1:21:32
Speaker 2: focus when the season's actually going. So is there anything
1:21:35
Speaker 2: you do to prepare yourself for tomorrow?
1:21:39
Speaker 7: Actually, I think it's little. It's almost the other way around.
1:21:42
Speaker 7: I think the off season for me is is much
1:21:45
Speaker 7: more I guess hectic and busy, and I guess attention
1:21:51
Speaker 7: attention grabbing. You know, I've gotta got a lot more
1:21:54
Speaker 7: to do in the off season. Then once you know,
1:21:56
Speaker 7: get all the all the new guys in the door,
1:21:58
Speaker 7: then it sort of calms down a little bit for me,
1:22:00
Speaker 7: and I can I can think a little more strategically
1:22:03
Speaker 7: long term. So I'm not quite there yet with this season.
1:22:06
Speaker 7: We've still got a few more things to button up.
1:22:08
Speaker 7: But you know, no, no, no rituals. But I'm looking
1:22:12
Speaker 7: forward to, uh to watching, you know, watching some of
1:22:15
Speaker 7: the guys that we've signed and enjoying that.
1:22:19
Speaker 2: When we talk about some of those signings, how would
1:22:21
Speaker 2: you characterize the additions. I mean, it's a pretty significant
1:22:25
Speaker 2: reshaping of the roster. Is it is reshaping a good characterization?
1:22:31
Speaker 2: Is it an overhaul? It's probably not. Doesn't fit into
1:22:34
Speaker 2: the rebuild category necessarily, But how do you frame what
1:22:38
Speaker 2: you've done with the roster in your own mind?
1:22:41
Speaker 7: I think, uh, I mean, yeah, I don't know if
1:22:43
Speaker 7: any of those words are great encapsulations. I think we've
1:22:46
Speaker 7: just looked at you know, we've tried to improve on
1:22:49
Speaker 7: on some areas that we thought we struggled with last year,
1:22:53
Speaker 7: and you know, yeah, when you look back at it,
1:22:55
Speaker 7: it it's it's a significant number of potential starters added
1:22:59
Speaker 7: to the group, which is a good thing. You know,
1:23:02
Speaker 7: this is a league that is constantly improving and growing,
1:23:05
Speaker 7: and you know you've got to you don't just you
1:23:08
Speaker 7: can't just improve upon yourselves from a priority here. You
1:23:11
Speaker 7: have to continue to keep pace with the rest of
1:23:13
Speaker 7: the league, and so sometimes that necessitates making a few
1:23:16
Speaker 7: more a few more changes than than than normal. But yeah,
1:23:20
Speaker 7: I think we've we've added some key pieces that should
1:23:22
Speaker 7: plug some holes and also helps guide it helps guide
1:23:26
Speaker 7: us towards a bit of a formation and maybe a
1:23:29
Speaker 7: slight style shift where we're not changing things completely stylistically,
1:23:35
Speaker 7: but we're changing a little bit of the base formation
1:23:37
Speaker 7: and giving us some stability both in and out of possession.
1:23:42
Speaker 2: So for the novice soccer fan, which I can barely
1:23:46
Speaker 2: count myself, that, I mean, that's generous description of my
1:23:49
Speaker 2: knowledge of the game. Uh, what what is the I
1:23:52
Speaker 2: guess the end goal of making that formation change and
1:23:56
Speaker 2: establishing more consistency in the attack and defend.
1:24:01
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think in the last couple of years, we
1:24:03
Speaker 7: we sort of attacked and defended in different shapes. So
1:24:06
Speaker 7: we started in like a four two three one, and
1:24:08
Speaker 7: when we attacked it kind of morphed into a three
1:24:10
Speaker 7: two four one with two tens underneath the striker and
1:24:13
Speaker 7: the two one winger high and one full back high
1:24:16
Speaker 7: and the other winger tucking in.
1:24:18
Speaker 4: So what we've.
1:24:19
Speaker 7: Decided to do this year is sort of stay in
1:24:22
Speaker 7: a more stable system in both both moments. So now
1:24:26
Speaker 7: we attack, you know, and it'll be a three two
1:24:28
Speaker 7: four one, and when we defend, the wing backs will
1:24:31
Speaker 7: just drop a little bit and it'll be more three
1:24:32
Speaker 7: four three four two one. So it's you know, maybe
1:24:36
Speaker 7: it's a lot of numbers to throw out, you but
1:24:37
Speaker 7: basically from from a team standpoint, you know, like we
1:24:40
Speaker 7: were asking our left back to get all the way
1:24:43
Speaker 7: up in the attack and all the way back in defending,
1:24:45
Speaker 7: and now we're asking a little bit less of the
1:24:49
Speaker 7: wing backs in that situation because we've got another center
1:24:51
Speaker 7: back there who's going to stay home in both in
1:24:53
Speaker 7: both scenarios, and so we're trying to get a lot
1:24:56
Speaker 7: more attack out of both wing backs, which is one
1:24:58
Speaker 7: of the reasons why we added Scenarbria as well.
1:25:02
Speaker 2: Okay, and again forgive the ignorance here, but like if
1:25:06
Speaker 2: you're that center back or you're those wingbacks, how drastic
1:25:09
Speaker 2: a change is it from an individual perspective? Right? I Mean,
1:25:13
Speaker 2: if we're is this is this a completely different position
1:25:17
Speaker 2: to play basically now? Or are you just doing something
1:25:20
Speaker 2: that maybe you did earlier in your career, something that
1:25:23
Speaker 2: you came up doing maybe a little less complicated. I'm
1:25:25
Speaker 2: trying to get a sense of like how quickly they.
1:25:28
Speaker 7: Take it a little more. Yeah, three center backs is
1:25:31
Speaker 7: always a little bit of the more of the variation
1:25:34
Speaker 7: and not the norm. So you know, everyone you know
1:25:37
Speaker 7: has played a lot of you know, some sort of
1:25:40
Speaker 7: base for format back line system like kind of growing
1:25:44
Speaker 7: up and a lot of their professional careers, so that's
1:25:47
Speaker 7: more of a baseline, and then the three center backs
1:25:49
Speaker 7: is a little bit more the variation and so learning
1:25:51
Speaker 7: how to how to defend and attack and that is
1:25:54
Speaker 7: usually something that people have to learn more. For us
1:25:58
Speaker 7: in possession when we have the ball, it's actually not
1:26:01
Speaker 7: a big change for us. You know, we've changed personnel,
1:26:03
Speaker 7: but in terms of roles and responsibilities for the various
1:26:06
Speaker 7: people in those positions, it hasn't changed a ton. Out
1:26:09
Speaker 7: of possession is where it's changed the most. And you know,
1:26:12
Speaker 7: it's added a little more thinking to the wing backs
1:26:14
Speaker 7: and it's given them a little more freedom to break
1:26:16
Speaker 7: out and transition as well. So there's a little bit
1:26:19
Speaker 7: more of a difference there. And even at the three
1:26:22
Speaker 7: players playing in the attack, you know, the way we're
1:26:26
Speaker 7: going to play it this year is instead of sort
1:26:27
Speaker 7: of a nine with two tens underneathing, so instead of
1:26:30
Speaker 7: two attacking midfielders and one center forward. We have sort
1:26:34
Speaker 7: of a center forward, a second striker type, which is
1:26:37
Speaker 7: someone who's kind of an in between er, does a
1:26:39
Speaker 7: little bit of both things, and then an attacking midfielder.
1:26:42
Speaker 2: Coachman is our guest here for a couple more minutes
1:26:44
Speaker 2: on The Shott O'Connell Show, in anticipation of RSL starting
1:26:48
Speaker 2: their season tomorrow, we check in with the Claret and
1:26:51
Speaker 2: Colebalt As you're making these changes, right, Leadership in the
1:26:57
Speaker 2: locker room's got to be pretty important, and with a
1:27:00
Speaker 2: relatively young roster, that's always something that I'm much more
1:27:04
Speaker 2: interested in. Who is stepping into that role naturally? Is
1:27:08
Speaker 2: it a conversation that you and Jason and whoever else
1:27:12
Speaker 2: have to have, like, hey, we really need maybe moon
1:27:15
Speaker 2: Man step up a little bit. How does that process
1:27:18
Speaker 2: go as you look for more and more leadership to
1:27:20
Speaker 2: emerge on the roster itself.
1:27:23
Speaker 7: Yeah, you need them to step into the role. You know,
1:27:27
Speaker 7: you need the guys that will take that because if
1:27:29
Speaker 7: you know, if someone whether it's Pablo or Media or
1:27:31
Speaker 7: anyone else steps in and says this guy's a leader now,
1:27:34
Speaker 7: that that doesn't necessarily mean you can lead. So, you know,
1:27:37
Speaker 7: part of it is having guys that are naturally gravitate
1:27:40
Speaker 7: towards that type of role and has players gravitate towards them.
1:27:44
Speaker 7: But you know, we've tried to add players. Last year
1:27:47
Speaker 7: we were very young. We were like the four third
1:27:49
Speaker 7: or fourth youngest team based some minutes played in MLS.
1:27:53
Speaker 7: And this year the pieces that we've had, we've we've
1:27:55
Speaker 7: largely tried to add guys with a little more experience
1:27:59
Speaker 7: who've had you know, it's been in other clubs. You know,
1:28:01
Speaker 7: Lucas Engel has more experience. We had a DeAndre Edlin,
1:28:05
Speaker 7: you know, towards towards the middle last year. You know,
1:28:07
Speaker 7: he's got more experience. Uh Stein Spearings is a more
1:28:10
Speaker 7: experienced player. Morgan Gilvogi's a you know, a prime age player.
1:28:15
Speaker 7: So you know, we've added some more experience to squad.
1:28:17
Speaker 7: We still have some exciting young players like Gozo, like
1:28:21
Speaker 7: you know, Juan Jose Ares who we acquired as a
1:28:23
Speaker 7: exciting young player, you know, and and also some players
1:28:27
Speaker 7: like Luca Moysa and Hazarkoni coming from the academy. And
1:28:30
Speaker 7: then you know, I don't want to leave them out,
1:28:32
Speaker 7: but I had like one one mass Andcenabria, who who
1:28:36
Speaker 7: brings a really really interesting pedigree to the club, having
1:28:40
Speaker 7: spent so much time in Mexico and and having the
1:28:42
Speaker 7: experiences he's had with your Way national team. So the
1:28:45
Speaker 7: group as a whole has a lot more diverse and
1:28:49
Speaker 7: and extent extensive experience as professionals, and that's something that's
1:28:55
Speaker 7: going to help the team stabilize and solidify, and it's
1:28:58
Speaker 7: also something that's really going to help our club's objective
1:29:01
Speaker 7: of developing the talented young players that we do have
1:29:05
Speaker 7: and are still going to be able to get on
1:29:06
Speaker 7: the field.
1:29:08
Speaker 2: Do we have injury updates on a Mecca and Arius
1:29:12
Speaker 2: and Kobe Henry.
1:29:15
Speaker 7: No, I mean no, no upstates other than what's gone
1:29:17
Speaker 7: out today. That's you know, a Mecca. We're we're bringing
1:29:21
Speaker 7: along slowly so that when he's back, he's back and
1:29:24
Speaker 7: we don't have any recurrences. And you know, there's been
1:29:28
Speaker 7: a few other knocks that have occurred this week, and
1:29:33
Speaker 7: you know that I don't think anything coming out of
1:29:35
Speaker 7: that is going to be too long term, but it
1:29:36
Speaker 7: is putting us in a you know a little bit
1:29:38
Speaker 7: of a deficit here in week one that along with
1:29:41
Speaker 7: some of the immigration stuff.
1:29:43
Speaker 2: So team chemistry is always important, but I've become more
1:29:46
Speaker 2: and more interested in recent years with organizational chemistry like
1:29:50
Speaker 2: ownership on down from ownership to uh, you know, roster construction,
1:29:56
Speaker 2: which is usually a general manager of sorts and chief
1:29:59
Speaker 2: soccer officer whatever the title is, and then you've got
1:30:02
Speaker 2: to have some kind type of agreement with your coach.
1:30:05
Speaker 2: Sometime there is friction there. Sometimes that's just the nature
1:30:08
Speaker 2: of a personality or a relationship that goes all the
1:30:11
Speaker 2: way down to the roster. How would you characterize the
1:30:14
Speaker 2: organizational level chemistry with this RSALE squad right now?
1:30:19
Speaker 7: I honestly think it's really good. You know, I've been
1:30:22
Speaker 7: at a few different clubs now, you know, Jason has,
1:30:25
Speaker 7: Pablo has. I think I think we would all probably
1:30:28
Speaker 7: say something similar, which is that our our alignment, you know,
1:30:31
Speaker 7: from ownership, you know, through Jason myself Pablo is all
1:30:35
Speaker 7: is all pretty good. You know, that doesn't mean we
1:30:37
Speaker 7: agree one hundred percent of the time, but it means
1:30:40
Speaker 7: that we we're we're we have a good way of
1:30:43
Speaker 7: collaborating with each other and seeing seeing things from different
1:30:46
Speaker 7: perspectives and you know, working together to find the right
1:30:50
Speaker 7: solution and not being afraid to share our thoughts, but
1:30:53
Speaker 7: also having the presence of mind that you know, once
1:30:56
Speaker 7: we once we all head in a direction, that we
1:30:58
Speaker 7: all get behind it. So you know, as far as
1:31:01
Speaker 7: where I've been, this is this is probably the best
1:31:04
Speaker 7: that it's it's been at any of the clubs that
1:31:06
Speaker 7: I've been at all.
1:31:08
Speaker 2: Right before, I let you go handicap the MLS, especially
1:31:11
Speaker 2: the West for me right now, who are you having
1:31:14
Speaker 2: an eye on? Who do you think you're going to
1:31:15
Speaker 2: see at the top, And.
1:31:17
Speaker 7: Like, I'm not going to do that. You do that,
1:31:21
Speaker 7: I'm not going to do that. Like we're just you know,
1:31:23
Speaker 7: I want us to be at the top, but I'm
1:31:25
Speaker 7: not going to pick us, you know, because maybe I'm
1:31:28
Speaker 7: overly superstitious. But you know, I think that we've got
1:31:30
Speaker 7: a good team that can compete, you know, for where
1:31:34
Speaker 7: we want to be, which is in the top four
1:31:35
Speaker 7: of the conference, so we can have hope field advantage
1:31:38
Speaker 7: and give ourselves a chance to compete for for for
1:31:41
Speaker 7: an MLS stup.
1:31:43
Speaker 2: Well, keep our fingers crossed for exactly that. Kurt, thanks
1:31:46
Speaker 2: so much for your time today.
1:31:47
Speaker 7: Yeah, no problem, Thank you.
1:31:49
Speaker 2: Kerschmid, RSL Chief Soccer Officer. We found at least a
1:31:54
Speaker 2: little superstition in there, right, and he doesn't have like
1:31:57
Speaker 2: a ritual or something. But we know what he won't do.
1:32:00
Speaker 2: He won't put anything out into the world because the
1:32:03
Speaker 2: stakes are a little higher when you're actually running the club.
1:32:07
Speaker 3: I got to think that there might possibly And not
1:32:10
Speaker 3: to speak for Kirk, but I just inferring his role
1:32:14
Speaker 3: as front office head of the front office there, maybe
1:32:18
Speaker 3: he's like, I don't necessarily want to put anything out
1:32:22
Speaker 3: there that make certain teams feel a certain way, which
1:32:26
Speaker 3: I I mean, come on, yeah, I I I understand
1:32:30
Speaker 3: why people are careful about these things.
1:32:32
Speaker 2: I really do. But like when a coach refuses to say, hey,
1:32:36
Speaker 2: you know what, Indiana is going to be really good
1:32:38
Speaker 2: again next year, come on, it's okay to say it.
1:32:42
Speaker 2: It's we live in this world where it's just like,
1:32:45
Speaker 2: all right, well, you know, this team has great players
1:32:48
Speaker 2: and it's typically a well run organization, and I think
1:32:52
Speaker 2: we can compete with them. There's nothing wrong with that.
1:32:55
Speaker 2: I again, I have no problem with someone no you
1:32:57
Speaker 2: can answer you deferring and saying oh, that's we'll let
1:33:00
Speaker 2: you do that. That's fine.
1:33:02
Speaker 3: We asked the questions, they our guests can answer that
1:33:05
Speaker 3: wherever they want to. Sometimes we might follow up if
1:33:08
Speaker 3: it's if you know, I feel like we need to
1:33:12
Speaker 3: follow up and try to elicit a little bit more information.
1:33:16
Speaker 3: But in that case it's like, yeah, you go ahead
1:33:18
Speaker 3: and answer that. Oh see, you do that. Okay, you
1:33:21
Speaker 3: go ahead and do that.
1:33:24
Speaker 2: The reason I ask, right, is because the more knowledgeable
1:33:28
Speaker 2: you are with soccer, and it's no secret that it's
1:33:32
Speaker 2: MLS soccer is not exactly my wheelhouse, right, But then
1:33:35
Speaker 2: more knowledgeable that you are, you might see things and
1:33:38
Speaker 2: know things that even like a hardcore fan doesn't quite recognize. Right,
1:33:42
Speaker 2: Like I keep leaning back on Indiana as an example, Right,
1:33:46
Speaker 2: we can we can do it with Texas Tech, we
1:33:49
Speaker 2: can do it with BYU football. We can do it
1:33:51
Speaker 2: with what Utah was this year. Right. It would have
1:33:54
Speaker 2: been very, very easy for most people to say Utah
1:33:58
Speaker 2: was a five win team last year. They're not gonna
1:34:01
Speaker 2: be good, right, they lost cam Rising and walking out
1:34:05
Speaker 2: of that tunnel. It was very There were a lot
1:34:07
Speaker 2: of people who didn't want to do that. I want
1:34:09
Speaker 2: to say Utah's done, They're not gonna be good. But
1:34:12
Speaker 2: people in the know, right, the circles of Utah not
1:34:18
Speaker 2: just Utah football, but college football that are just like, well,
1:34:20
Speaker 2: hold on a minute, I did a little research. I
1:34:24
Speaker 2: saw what this Devin dan Pier kid is capable of
1:34:27
Speaker 2: because I watched his new Mexico film, or I watched
1:34:29
Speaker 2: some of those games live maybe, And I know Kyle
1:34:32
Speaker 2: Whittingham hasn't forgotten how to coach. And I know that
1:34:34
Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley gets the most out of his defensive talent
1:34:37
Speaker 2: every single year. And I don't think they're gonna have
1:34:39
Speaker 2: injury problems like they had these past couple of seasons.
1:34:42
Speaker 2: And so there were plenty of people who prognosticated and
1:34:45
Speaker 2: said Utah is gonna be great in the MLS. It
1:34:51
Speaker 2: might be Vancouver, it might be RSL, it might be LA,
1:34:55
Speaker 2: it might be Colorado that has been there's fall on
1:35:00
Speaker 2: some difficulties that might put you out of a conversation
1:35:03
Speaker 2: that the folks in the know are just like, well, actually,
1:35:06
Speaker 2: look who they added to this roster, and they hired
1:35:08
Speaker 2: this new coach and by the way, that guy's healthy. Now,
1:35:12
Speaker 2: this team could come from nowhere. Don't have to answer
1:35:16
Speaker 2: it though. It's fine, yeah, totally fine. But next time, Kurtin,
1:35:20
Speaker 2: give me I wonder if I wonder if he might
1:35:24
Speaker 2: have I'll send you a fusion burger. Yeah, there you go.
1:35:27
Speaker 2: I wonder if he might have.
1:35:31
Speaker 3: Given you an answer if you if you said, who
1:35:34
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jacob Bridgeman is tied for first with Xander Shaftley
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Speaker 3: though one under for him?
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Speaker 3: That is. I love it. Sorry, I forget I forgot
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Speaker 3: my usual that's your usual sign off. Sign off. What's
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Speaker 3: going on here? Awkward pause, James, what's going on?
1:38:51
Speaker 2: Olympic halfpipe skiing, by the way, happening right now, and
1:38:55
Speaker 2: like I don't know, two minutes ago. A lot of
1:38:59
Speaker 2: these athletes, they make it look so easy because they're
1:39:02
Speaker 2: so practiced and they're such phenomenal athletes. I mean, they're
1:39:05
Speaker 2: the best in the world. Obviously, that's why they're at
1:39:08
Speaker 2: the Olympics. I don't know where this gentleman was from,
1:39:11
Speaker 2: but it was a stark reminder that it's actually a
1:39:15
Speaker 2: human efforts to try to be good at this. Maybe
1:39:19
Speaker 2: the last air that this guy was taking in the
1:39:22
Speaker 2: half pipe, maybe second to last, just fifteen feet off
1:39:27
Speaker 2: the lip of the pipe, comes back down and his
1:39:32
Speaker 2: tailbone lands directly on that little blue stripe they paint
1:39:36
Speaker 2: on the icy edge of the half pipe. Just such
1:39:39
Speaker 2: a nasty crash. You don't see him that often in
1:39:44
Speaker 2: the Olympics, but a reminder that these are human beings
1:39:47
Speaker 2: actually doing this stuff. Crazy, James. The curling world has
1:39:52
Speaker 2: been shaken today. Are you ready to tell people about
1:39:55
Speaker 2: what's going on in curling?
1:39:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had our women's semi finals. We'll go
1:40:00
Speaker 3: through those those games. First earlier this morning, Sweden upset Canada.
1:40:09
Speaker 2: Canada.
1:40:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sweden beat Canada six to three, and unfortunately the
1:40:13
Speaker 3: United States fell tm USA fel to Switzerland seven to four.
1:40:16
Speaker 3: But you know what, this sets up a bronze medal
1:40:20
Speaker 3: match between the probably the probably favorites Canada and the
1:40:25
Speaker 3: mighty Team USA women's curling team. And we there's a
1:40:31
Speaker 3: chance for tm USA. Not only I believe this would
1:40:33
Speaker 3: be the first women's curling medal, or at least the
1:40:36
Speaker 3: first one in a long time. Oh see, not only
1:40:38
Speaker 3: a chance for that, which is obviously huge, but also
1:40:42
Speaker 3: to knock Canada off the podium. So that'll be sweet.
1:40:50
Speaker 3: Let me let me check to Canada. Let me check
1:40:52
Speaker 3: to see when that bronze medal game is. I believe
1:40:55
Speaker 3: it is tomorrow. It is tomorrow, six am. Set your
1:41:01
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1:41:04
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1:41:08
Speaker 3: USA or NBC. You know they got they got something
1:41:12
Speaker 3: called Gold Zone that I've been tuning into on NBC
1:41:14
Speaker 3: Sports Network.
1:41:15
Speaker 2: Slash peacock. It's like Red Zone, but only for gold
1:41:18
Speaker 2: It's it's Red Zone but Olympics, which is my favorite
1:41:22
Speaker 2: way to watch the Olympics right now, because there's it's
1:41:24
Speaker 2: almost impossible to keep up with every event. Gold Zone
1:41:28
Speaker 2: just it drops in on almost every event going on.
1:41:30
Speaker 2: I love it. I feel like the commercial. I feel
1:41:33
Speaker 2: like it genuinely is impossible to watch every event, yeah,
1:41:38
Speaker 2: because I think there's not enough time in your day
1:41:41
Speaker 2: to watch them all.
1:41:41
Speaker 3: I mean, sample every event, and that's what you can.
1:41:44
Speaker 3: You can do that in one channel with gold Zone,
1:41:46
Speaker 3: which I'm so glad I discovered it this time. It's
1:41:49
Speaker 3: been around a while, so I'm late to the party.
1:41:51
Speaker 3: But uh, shout out to gold Zone. The only difference
1:41:57
Speaker 3: between that and Red Zone is there are actual commercial
1:42:00
Speaker 3: but that's okay, all right. The medal count right now
1:42:07
Speaker 3: in these Milano Cortina Winter Olympics in fifth place Germany
1:42:13
Speaker 3: with six golds, eight silvers and eight bronzes twenty two
1:42:17
Speaker 3: total medals. The Netherlands has more golds, so they get
1:42:22
Speaker 3: put at number four. I don't necessarily like that, but
1:42:27
Speaker 3: they're tied with Germany.
1:42:29
Speaker 2: Is that you're saying, well, the Netherlands has seven golds
1:42:32
Speaker 2: and seven silvers, but only three bonds, so their total
1:42:35
Speaker 2: medal count is at seventeen, five fewer than Germany's, but
1:42:40
Speaker 2: because Germany is winning in the bronze category and the
1:42:43
Speaker 2: silver category, the rankings still put Netherlands higher.
1:42:46
Speaker 3: Still should be I see, I thought you were saying
1:42:49
Speaker 3: they tied total. They were tied in the totals, so
1:42:52
Speaker 3: the tiebreaker was more golds. I totally on board for
1:42:55
Speaker 3: with that. But that's now, well, you're five medal disparity.
1:42:58
Speaker 3: Come on, now, what are we doing here?
1:43:01
Speaker 2: Italy with nine golds, five silvers and twelve bronzes. They've
1:43:05
Speaker 2: got twenty six total medals right now? USA is in
1:43:08
Speaker 2: second place. Oh, they moved up nine golds, twelve silvers,
1:43:12
Speaker 2: six bronzes, twenty seven total. Norway is just crushing everybody.
1:43:17
Speaker 2: Seventeen golds, ten silvers, three bronzes, thirty seven total medals,
1:43:23
Speaker 2: ten ahead of second place United States.
1:43:26
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they've been crushing it these whole games. This
1:43:30
Speaker 3: will be This would be back to back if I'm
1:43:33
Speaker 3: not mistaken. Medal count winners for Norway in the Winter Olympics.
1:43:39
Speaker 3: So they crushed it in Beijing as well. But what
1:43:43
Speaker 3: I I'm thrilled to see because I hadn't checked for
1:43:45
Speaker 3: a few days. I'm thrilled to see that we've moved
1:43:48
Speaker 3: up a couple of spots to second. So what I
1:43:51
Speaker 3: don't know if there's even enough events to catch Norway
1:43:54
Speaker 3: at this point, but if you can't, that's good on
1:43:57
Speaker 3: Team USA for moving out.
1:43:59
Speaker 2: They broke their own record with the seventeenth gold medal,
1:44:02
Speaker 2: because the previous record was for a nation with sixteen
1:44:05
Speaker 2: gold medals at the Winter Olympics. That was in twenty
1:44:08
Speaker 2: twenty two in Beijing. That was the Norway, and now
1:44:13
Speaker 2: they got seventeen gold medals. I don't know if I
1:44:18
Speaker 2: like that, but I guess when you live in perpetual winter,
1:44:22
Speaker 2: you should be better at the winter sports.
1:44:24
Speaker 3: Was it Andy Phillips or it might have been Andy Phillips,
1:44:27
Speaker 3: might have been Adrian Denny who told us that they
1:44:31
Speaker 3: what they say in Norway is that you're born with
1:44:34
Speaker 3: skis on your feet. So, I mean, they've proved it
1:44:37
Speaker 3: the last two Winter Olympics.
1:44:39
Speaker 2: Do we know if that's true?
1:44:40
Speaker 4: Is that?
1:44:41
Speaker 2: Are they actually scientifically accurate? Yeah? You know what's the
1:44:44
Speaker 2: craziest thing about those Scandinavian countries that is like for them,
1:44:47
Speaker 2: it's such a super normal thing. And I know you've
1:44:50
Speaker 2: all seen this on social media. But the fact that
1:44:54
Speaker 2: they leave babies in their strollers outside in the snowstorm.
1:44:58
Speaker 2: You've seen this. Yeah, they bundle up their kids and
1:45:03
Speaker 2: they just leave them outside because they're like, no breathing,
1:45:05
Speaker 2: the cold, fresh air is good for them, and they
1:45:08
Speaker 2: just bundle them up and they like go into the
1:45:10
Speaker 2: restaurant and eat lunch. And it's kind of like at
1:45:13
Speaker 2: Disneyland when you go on a ride and all the
1:45:15
Speaker 2: strollers are parked next to the ride. It's like that,
1:45:18
Speaker 2: but there's actual babies in the strollers. So they just
1:45:21
Speaker 2: got them like crazy bundled up there. Yeah, yeah, they have.
1:45:25
Speaker 2: I mean they've figured it out in Norway and Sweden.
1:45:28
Speaker 2: In those places sort of makes sense, don't they don't.
1:45:30
Speaker 2: They say if you got croup that the cold, the
1:45:33
Speaker 2: cold air helps the helps the babies. So I'm not
1:45:37
Speaker 2: gonna I'm not going to dispute the long standing tradition
1:45:41
Speaker 2: of these Nordic countries and these Viking countries. There the
1:45:45
Speaker 2: babies are safe. And that's the other thing is like
1:45:49
Speaker 2: it's such an unthinkable thing in Norway that anyone would
1:45:54
Speaker 2: bother the babies while they're sleeping in the strollers that
1:45:57
Speaker 2: anyone would steal a stroller right, Well, there's it's just
1:46:00
Speaker 2: like safe from the elements. It's not even part of
1:46:03
Speaker 2: like like they don't even think that's a possibility because
1:46:06
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen. So they're like, yeah, why wouldn't you
1:46:09
Speaker 2: leave your baby outside in a stroller? That's what we
1:46:11
Speaker 2: do in negative temperatures. It's like zero outside, and they're
1:46:18
Speaker 2: just like, well, he's got his coat on. You could
1:46:22
Speaker 2: find the videos on social media, and it's just like
1:46:25
Speaker 2: strollers covered in icicles in snow and then they lift
1:46:29
Speaker 2: like the little the little sheets or the little whatever,
1:46:32
Speaker 2: and there's just this chubby little face in there with
1:46:35
Speaker 2: a hood cinched around it or the the beanie down
1:46:38
Speaker 2: over the eyes or whatever, and you just see the
1:46:40
Speaker 2: chubby little nose and cheeks and there's just little puffs
1:46:43
Speaker 2: of cold air. You know, it's very adorable puffs of
1:46:48
Speaker 2: cold air. I guess puffs of warm air in the cold.
1:46:51
Speaker 2: But in any case, you do that, you're sleeping out
1:46:55
Speaker 2: in the snow when you're six months old, you better
1:46:57
Speaker 2: go win a gold medal. Eventually.
1:46:59
Speaker 3: I think my wife's ill obviously very new mother would
1:47:02
Speaker 3: be beside herself if anyone suggested that.
1:47:06
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine being like an American parent.
1:47:10
Speaker 2: You go to Norway, right, and everyone looks at you
1:47:13
Speaker 2: like you've got three heads when you bring your baby
1:47:15
Speaker 2: into the restaurant and you're just like, what is it.
1:47:19
Speaker 2: They're just like, put the kid in the stroller in
1:47:21
Speaker 2: the snow. It's snowing, cats and dogs out there. Yes,
1:47:24
Speaker 2: I'm bringing my child. They're like, you are a bad parent.
1:47:28
Speaker 2: What about the toughness you're making your child breathe? That
1:47:32
Speaker 2: this indoor air is disgusting. The Scandinavian Scandinavian baby's built different. Yeah.
1:47:41
Speaker 2: Is that specifically Norwegian or is it? Is it a
1:47:44
Speaker 2: general Scandinavian. I think it's general Scandinavia. I think, and
1:47:47
Speaker 2: forgive me Denmark, Sweden, Norway. I think that there's a
1:47:52
Speaker 2: lot of homogeny with the cultures in those places. Oh hey,
1:47:55
Speaker 2: Lewry Martin, it's on the phone, really mad. I think
1:47:58
Speaker 2: I think that. I think there's a lot of I
1:48:00
Speaker 2: think it's kind of like, you know, Canada, US, Australia,
1:48:04
Speaker 2: Like I've been to all those places. If you didn't
1:48:08
Speaker 2: know where you were, you'd be like, got this could
1:48:10
Speaker 2: be America? Pretty similar. It's pretty similar, right, I think
1:48:12
Speaker 2: the Scandinavia is like that. I've only been to Sweden.
1:48:16
Speaker 2: I haven't been to the others.
1:48:17
Speaker 3: All right, but yeah, so you've been to Sweden, so
1:48:20
Speaker 3: you've been to them all. Is that what you're saying?
1:48:22
Speaker 2: Lowry's Larry's calling He's mad. Sorry Lowry, Sorry Lowry to Finland. No,
1:48:28
Speaker 2: there's like they have their I do know that there's
1:48:30
Speaker 2: like the indigenous peoples of of those places.
1:48:34
Speaker 3: They've got they've got a unique culture for sure. Yeah,
1:48:39
Speaker 3: we've we've watched Frozen two. We know that there's, you know,
1:48:43
Speaker 3: some tension between Also, what's Klaus the Netflix the Christmas
1:48:48
Speaker 3: movie that has the.
1:48:49
Speaker 2: Sami have I don't know that. Have you've seen Klaus?
1:48:53
Speaker 2: Very good? I gotta watch it Christmas movie, It's very good. Anyway,
1:48:57
Speaker 2: we got to take a break. That's The Daily Done,
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Speaker 2: brought to you by Valley Pluh Wait, no, hold on,
1:49:02
Speaker 2: this is the only place I'm gonna be able to
1:49:03
Speaker 2: fit it in. I have to tell you the story, James.
1:49:06
Speaker 2: I'm going on to Gorilla Trek and Uganda. You know this. Yeah,
1:49:10
Speaker 2: I love how casually you just say that. I'm very
1:49:14
Speaker 2: excited about it. But when you get like the information packing,
1:49:18
Speaker 2: They're like, you have to have good hiking boots, and
1:49:21
Speaker 2: they got to be waterproof because you're going to be
1:49:23
Speaker 2: in the jungle, going through wet brush, hiking across streams.
1:49:26
Speaker 2: You gotta get some waterproof hiking boots. And when I
1:49:29
Speaker 2: go hiking, it's not like hardcore stuff here because I
1:49:32
Speaker 2: got three little kids. We're just on trails most of
1:49:35
Speaker 2: the time. I'm just wearing some I'm just wearing some
1:49:38
Speaker 2: Airmax nineties every time, right, So I'm like, Okay, I
1:49:41
Speaker 2: will do justice to the Uganda Gorilla trek and I'm
1:49:44
Speaker 2: gonna go get some waterproof hiking boots. So I made
1:49:47
Speaker 2: a purchase. I'm I've been walking around and I'm just like,
1:49:51
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love these. I don't know
1:49:52
Speaker 2: if I want these are gorilla Trek worthy. So I'm like,
1:49:55
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep looking. I could return these if I
1:49:57
Speaker 2: have to. Whatever. ID to a tax appointment yesterday, shout
1:50:02
Speaker 2: out to my tax guy, Well done. I didn't go
1:50:04
Speaker 2: to tax appointment. It's right next to a Ross. Okay,
1:50:07
Speaker 2: Ross dressed for less. I go into the Ross and Ross.
1:50:11
Speaker 2: Any of you shop at Ross, you know that the
1:50:13
Speaker 2: shoes are hit and miss at Ross. Right, Sometimes you
1:50:16
Speaker 2: get a great deal, like some fluke appearance of like
1:50:20
Speaker 2: some air Force ones. You're like, what the heck? I
1:50:22
Speaker 2: tell you.
1:50:22
Speaker 3: I found Carolina Blue like North Carolina tar heels colors
1:50:26
Speaker 3: air Force ones at Ross one time. See, I was like, incredible.
1:50:30
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything close to that since. Yeah, okay, amazing.
1:50:33
Speaker 2: Right. So I see a pair of hunting boots waterproof,
1:50:37
Speaker 2: like hiking hunting boots. I'm like, oh, okay, that might
1:50:40
Speaker 2: be a possibility. I pick it up. I'm like, ah,
1:50:46
Speaker 2: this usually is about half size bigger than I usually wear.
1:50:49
Speaker 2: Let me try them on anyway, so you know, I
1:50:51
Speaker 2: just put them on. My cough. I haven't worn this
1:50:54
Speaker 2: brand before. Maybe they run a little bit small. These
1:50:55
Speaker 2: feel okay, if they're cheap, maybe I'll get them. I
1:51:01
Speaker 2: pick them up, James after trying them on, and I'm like, huh,
1:51:05
Speaker 2: that's got to be a mistake. What do you think?
1:51:08
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen my tweet, what do
1:51:09
Speaker 2: you think I paid for these boots?
1:51:11
Speaker 3: I have not seen this a pair of boots my
1:51:14
Speaker 3: unsullied okay prediction, hold on before you guess, James, I'm
1:51:19
Speaker 3: going to tell you I looked up because I was
1:51:21
Speaker 3: how much was your brand new that you bought online?
1:51:25
Speaker 2: Well, the ones I'm wearing right now that I'm still
1:51:27
Speaker 2: giving a shot, ok, I got it for sale. I
1:51:29
Speaker 2: got these at North from Rack. I only buy things
1:51:31
Speaker 2: on sale, James, I'm a notorious cheapskape. I only buy
1:51:35
Speaker 2: things on sale. These were eighty five bucks, which is
1:51:37
Speaker 2: this is an expensive brand of shoe. That's like about
1:51:40
Speaker 2: half off.
1:51:40
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so brand new, it's we're looking one
1:51:43
Speaker 3: hundred and sixties.
1:51:44
Speaker 2: So I looked up the exact ones I found at
1:51:47
Speaker 2: Ross online and they're they're suggested retail price by the
1:51:51
Speaker 2: manufacturers one hundred and forty five dollars. You can find
1:51:54
Speaker 2: them at most places online. You could go buy them
1:51:57
Speaker 2: at a lot of spots right now. The lowest price
1:51:59
Speaker 2: I found was like eighty bucks. Most of them are
1:52:01
Speaker 2: one hundred and five. But with that, how much do
1:52:03
Speaker 2: you think I paid for him?
1:52:06
Speaker 3: I'm guessing they were a lot more expensive than you
1:52:08
Speaker 3: thought they'd because you were at Ross and you're like
1:52:10
Speaker 3: that cat that's got an even mistake.
1:52:12
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you the opposite is true. Oh,
1:52:16
Speaker 2: sixty five, James, I paid fifty three cents for this
1:52:22
Speaker 2: pair of fifty three cents. Fifty three cents I meant,
1:52:26
Speaker 2: since when I said sixty five, I paid three cents.
1:52:29
Speaker 2: It is now. It is now the best bargain I
1:52:32
Speaker 2: have ever found in my entire shopping experience ever. Previous
1:52:38
Speaker 2: the gold medal for that went to a d I
1:52:41
Speaker 2: purchase I had made. I got a Cashmere sport code
1:52:44
Speaker 2: at the DI for eight dollars. Okay, retail price on
1:52:48
Speaker 2: that thing is like six hundred. Somebody probably died in it.
1:52:51
Speaker 2: That's why I was able to get it for free,
1:52:52
Speaker 2: for close to free whatever, James, I found the price
1:52:57
Speaker 2: tag on these boots and it said zero dollars and
1:52:59
Speaker 2: four forty nine cents. I was like, that can't be right.
1:53:03
Speaker 2: I take it up to the cashier. I'm like, what's
1:53:06
Speaker 2: the real price on me? She said, that's the price.
1:53:08
Speaker 2: If it's on there, that's the price. We do this
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Speaker 2: sometimes where we do these extreme markdowns to get these
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Speaker 2: You didn't ask why she was lovely. She was just like, oh,
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Speaker 2: Fifty three cents after tex eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 2: Tyson Ewing joins us next.
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Speaker 1: Ye your tune to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
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Speaker 1: Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one,
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Speaker 1: alf am.
1:54:06
Speaker 2: Welcome into the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in Tyson Ewing,
1:54:09
Speaker 2: the play by play voice of Utah women's basketball rivalry
1:54:14
Speaker 2: game this weekend. The Utah women will be taking on
1:54:18
Speaker 2: BYU at the Huntsman Center two o'clock. Tyson will be
1:54:23
Speaker 2: on the call. And by the way, team USA up
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Speaker 2: one zero one Slovakia fifteen forty one left in the
1:54:30
Speaker 2: first Larkin gets you on the board. Tyson Ewing, Welcome
1:54:35
Speaker 2: to the Sean O'Connell Show again. How are you, sir?
1:54:38
Speaker 7: Amazing sir?
1:54:39
Speaker 4: How are you doing?
1:54:40
Speaker 2: All right? Let's get into some Utah women's hoops. We
1:54:44
Speaker 2: had Gavin Peterson on this week and we talked about
1:54:47
Speaker 2: kind of the situation this team is in with three
1:54:49
Speaker 2: games in the regular season left to go. Bracketology has
1:54:53
Speaker 2: them as a first team out, so a bubble team
1:54:56
Speaker 2: right now, but there are opportunities with losses obviously, and
1:55:01
Speaker 2: a good losses from other teams, I should say, and
1:55:04
Speaker 2: a good performance in the upcoming Big Twelve tournament. Uh,
1:55:07
Speaker 2: what is the day the dynamic with this team right now?
1:55:10
Speaker 2: Do you think that they're they're geared to take on
1:55:13
Speaker 2: these final three and maybe build some momentum for themselves.
1:55:17
Speaker 7: First of all, before I go into that, I do
1:55:19
Speaker 7: have to let you know that right now I am
1:55:22
Speaker 7: wearing a pair of Jordan one low black smoke light Smoke.
1:55:27
Speaker 7: I think they're called OK. Then I picked up at
1:55:30
Speaker 7: Ross about probably about three weeks or so ago, So
1:55:35
Speaker 7: just to kind of I'm not going to say that's
1:55:37
Speaker 7: my best purchase, because I ended up getting a pair
1:55:39
Speaker 7: of really nice golf shoes a few years back for
1:55:42
Speaker 7: two dollars. But your based on your last conversation that
1:55:47
Speaker 7: you were having with James, I didn't want to throw
1:55:49
Speaker 7: in my my pick and just let you know right
1:55:53
Speaker 7: now I am wearing I'm glad to throw that because
1:55:57
Speaker 7: a pass.
1:55:58
Speaker 2: You don't always find Nike's there, and it's even more
1:56:01
Speaker 2: rare to find Jordan's there. So that's a heck of
1:56:05
Speaker 2: a fine ross. Congratulations to you for giving good deals
1:56:09
Speaker 2: all over the place. Now, oh man, you tell me
1:56:14
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah, I was.
1:56:15
Speaker 7: Super excited to tell you that, buch I love it.
1:56:18
Speaker 7: So I will let you know just based off what
1:56:21
Speaker 7: we're seeing so far, even though there's only three games left.
1:56:24
Speaker 7: We have said this several times while we've been on
1:56:27
Speaker 7: the air that this is one of the most black
1:56:30
Speaker 7: and white teams that I have ever seen, in the
1:56:34
Speaker 7: sense that when they shoot well, they win. When they
1:56:38
Speaker 7: don't shoot well, they lose, And especially recently, that's never
1:56:43
Speaker 7: been more true, I believe the last nine. But see
1:56:48
Speaker 7: in ten games there, they're four and six, and in
1:56:52
Speaker 7: those six losses they're shooting thirty five percent. In those
1:56:57
Speaker 7: four wins, they're shooting forty six percent. And it's been
1:57:00
Speaker 7: like that really throughout. So it's it's interesting to see
1:57:02
Speaker 7: how when they shoot well they win, when they don't
1:57:06
Speaker 7: shoot well, they lose. And sometimes you'll see, you know,
1:57:08
Speaker 7: a little a bad shooting game and they'll still get victories.
1:57:11
Speaker 7: It's not really been the case, which is I know
1:57:14
Speaker 7: that that's that sounds simple to kind of just say that,
1:57:16
Speaker 7: but that's kind of the dynamic that I've seen from
1:57:19
Speaker 7: this team as far as their next three go. Obviously
1:57:22
Speaker 7: huge games that come up for them. The b YU
1:57:24
Speaker 7: game on Saturday obviously big because it's you know, the
1:57:28
Speaker 7: BYU Cougars and the rivalry game and last year Maddie
1:57:32
Speaker 7: hits the half court shot and everybody goes crazy and
1:57:36
Speaker 7: they come off a loss from at b YU three
1:57:39
Speaker 7: or four weeks ago, and so Utah obviously trying to
1:57:41
Speaker 7: look for revenge. That really tricky game coming up on
1:57:45
Speaker 7: Tuesday at Colorado, a team that has won the leaves
1:57:49
Speaker 7: seven of their last eight games, so they're extremely hot
1:57:51
Speaker 7: right now. That would be a huge get for Utah.
1:57:54
Speaker 7: They can get that done. Like you were saying, I
1:57:58
Speaker 7: feel they're going to have to probably win these last
1:58:01
Speaker 7: three games and then make at least a little bit
1:58:03
Speaker 7: of noise in the Big twelve Tournament in the coming
1:58:05
Speaker 7: weeks to be able to get off that bubble and
1:58:08
Speaker 7: potentially get that get that seat into the NCAA Tournament.
1:58:12
Speaker 7: But uh, with the way they've been playing as of late,
1:58:16
Speaker 7: if they shoot well, then they've got great chances to
1:58:19
Speaker 7: win games down the stretch.
1:58:21
Speaker 2: We saw the three point shot become more and more
1:58:23
Speaker 2: important in the game of basketball over the last few years,
1:58:27
Speaker 2: but particularly to this Utah basketball team, first Underland Roberts
1:58:31
Speaker 2: and nowander Gavin Peterson, uh and and there was there
1:58:34
Speaker 2: was a time it was kind of like a, hey,
1:58:36
Speaker 2: you live and die by that. I don't know that
1:58:38
Speaker 2: we're one hundred percent there now, but with the in
1:58:42
Speaker 2: respect to the long range shooting U the hot and
1:58:46
Speaker 2: cold sort of dynamic of that as a as a
1:58:50
Speaker 2: tool in the game of college basketball in particular, is
1:58:54
Speaker 2: there a healthy relationship right now for this this lady
1:58:58
Speaker 2: running youth squad and the three point.
1:59:01
Speaker 7: Shot Absolutely there right now. They are. When they make
1:59:06
Speaker 7: nine or more three pointers, they're thirteen and two. When
1:59:09
Speaker 7: they shoot thirty two percent or better from three, they're
1:59:12
Speaker 7: twelve and two. So kind of to your point, like,
1:59:14
Speaker 7: while we might not see as much the live and
1:59:17
Speaker 7: dive by the three point shot, this team in a
1:59:20
Speaker 7: way kind of is a live and dive by the
1:59:22
Speaker 7: three point shot. But they can obviously do so much.
1:59:24
Speaker 7: As you know, Lynn Roberts when a couple of years back,
1:59:27
Speaker 7: when the team had a really struggle a struggle buss
1:59:31
Speaker 7: really going to put it that way. When they lost
1:59:35
Speaker 7: a lot of games during that COVID year, Lynn Roberts
1:59:37
Speaker 7: basically rewrote her entire offense and that three point shot
1:59:40
Speaker 7: became more prevalent than ever. I would say that that
1:59:44
Speaker 7: three point shot, specifically over the last three to four
1:59:47
Speaker 7: years was very much the deterrent for this Utah team.
1:59:51
Speaker 7: This season, as you know, different players have come into
1:59:55
Speaker 7: the program, and especially Lonnie being one of the key
2:00:00
Speaker 7: contributors to the scoring side of things for Utah. Gavin's
2:00:03
Speaker 7: kind of I'm not going to say eased up a
2:00:06
Speaker 7: little bit on allowing mid range shots, but I will
2:00:09
Speaker 7: say that we're seeing more mid range shots taken this
2:00:11
Speaker 7: year than we've seen in the last four years. And
2:00:15
Speaker 7: I think that that just is because of the type
2:00:17
Speaker 7: of score the type of player that a player like
2:00:19
Speaker 7: Lonnie White is. But I still would say that this
2:00:22
Speaker 7: is a team that looks to get to the basket first,
2:00:25
Speaker 7: try to get layups, try to get easy shots at
2:00:28
Speaker 7: the rim, try to get points in the paint, and
2:00:30
Speaker 7: then they look to kick out as really as much
2:00:32
Speaker 7: as they absolutely can. They still want to take the
2:00:35
Speaker 7: free point shot. They didn't get very many, and against
2:00:38
Speaker 7: Oklahoma State on Monday only eighteen three point attempts compared
2:00:42
Speaker 7: to their forty four total shots. So still not I
2:00:45
Speaker 7: think where Gavin would like to be, but I do know.
2:00:47
Speaker 7: But like I said, even though that mid range shot
2:00:51
Speaker 7: has become more more a part of this offense, the
2:00:53
Speaker 7: three point shot is still very much what Utah's looking
2:00:57
Speaker 7: for outside of getting shots at the rim.
2:01:00
Speaker 2: To take Lonnie out, because your leading scorer a lot
2:01:02
Speaker 2: of times is just by default your most important player
2:01:05
Speaker 2: in the game. Aside from her, who's the most important
2:01:09
Speaker 2: player against b YU for this Utah women's basketball team.
2:01:14
Speaker 7: I'm going to say Maddie Wilkie. Maddie has become an
2:01:18
Speaker 7: absolute defensive force, especially as of late. Her defense has
2:01:22
Speaker 7: been huge for Utah and and DYU is a team
2:01:26
Speaker 7: that you know, they average roughly seventy points a game,
2:01:29
Speaker 7: but they shoot the three point shot really well. And Maddie,
2:01:33
Speaker 7: specifically against a player like Delaney Gibb, who is one
2:01:35
Speaker 7: of the best players in the entire country, her defense
2:01:38
Speaker 7: on Delaney Gibbs is going to be extremely vital. So
2:01:41
Speaker 7: I would say, looking more so, looking more so towards
2:01:45
Speaker 7: the defensive end and say that the most important piece
2:01:47
Speaker 7: to Utah having a chance of beating DYU is going
2:01:51
Speaker 7: to be the defensive prowess of Maddi Wilkie specifically on Delaney,
2:01:56
Speaker 7: and so I would say that on the on the
2:01:59
Speaker 7: on the defense event. On the offensive end, I believe
2:02:02
Speaker 7: a player like Reece Ross who's a little bit of
2:02:05
Speaker 7: a slump right now, only average in about five points
2:02:08
Speaker 7: over her last three games, but has shown the ability
2:02:11
Speaker 7: to get to the basket and to make outside shots
2:02:14
Speaker 7: kind of like who were just talking about a moment ago.
2:02:16
Speaker 7: She's one of those prototypical players that her shots come
2:02:19
Speaker 7: at the reomen at the free point and be on
2:02:20
Speaker 7: the three point line. So from the offensive end, I
2:02:23
Speaker 7: would say a player like Reese, who struggled against Byu
2:02:27
Speaker 7: the last time that they met, is going to be
2:02:30
Speaker 7: key to this victory as well. So defensively, I'll say
2:02:32
Speaker 7: Maddie Maddie Wilkie. Offensively also in Reese Ross's name.
2:02:37
Speaker 2: Season not over obviously, but we're down this home stretch now,
2:02:41
Speaker 2: and so you are what you are. Have they seen
2:02:44
Speaker 2: the growth they needed to out of La Sneed, who
2:02:47
Speaker 2: obviously came into the program as the you know, the
2:02:50
Speaker 2: highest rated recruit Tyson. Yeah, maybe you lost me.
2:03:04
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I apologize. You're talking about Lonnie La La.
2:03:10
Speaker 2: Did they get the growth out of her they needed?
2:03:12
Speaker 7: I did not even hear that question. I apologize. It's
2:03:14
Speaker 7: almost like a cutout. I would say La snead her
2:03:19
Speaker 7: growth throughout the year. And the one thing that I've
2:03:21
Speaker 7: loved about La is just while specifically when injuries came
2:03:26
Speaker 7: for Brooke Walker, La stepped up when she needed to,
2:03:29
Speaker 7: became a really good score for Utah, great distributor for
2:03:32
Speaker 7: Utah as well. But La, what I've loved about her
2:03:35
Speaker 7: is that she just plays the same game, whether she's
2:03:37
Speaker 7: coming up the bench, whether she's or or whether she's
2:03:41
Speaker 7: started the game. A tough decision was made a couple
2:03:43
Speaker 7: of weeks ago, as La sneed made the starting lineup
2:03:47
Speaker 7: and Brooke went to the bench. Analytically, that kind of
2:03:51
Speaker 7: makes a little bit more sense because when La is
2:03:56
Speaker 7: playing with the starters, the net rating for Utah is
2:03:59
Speaker 7: significently higher than it is when Brooke Walker is on
2:04:02
Speaker 7: the floor. And that's obviously not just towards towards Brook whatsoever,
2:04:05
Speaker 7: but it just seems as though that the offense and
2:04:08
Speaker 7: defense both have such a vital effect when when La
2:04:11
Speaker 7: is on the floor, and I feel as though on
2:04:14
Speaker 7: a game and a game out basis that is just
2:04:17
Speaker 7: helping La to grow. Obviously, she comes in as Utah's
2:04:21
Speaker 7: highest ranked recruit ever and so there was a lot
2:04:23
Speaker 7: of high expectation for her, and and while she might
2:04:27
Speaker 7: not be getting the scoring that I was that I
2:04:29
Speaker 7: think Utah fans were looking for, this is a year
2:04:33
Speaker 7: of growth and a and a year to really learn,
2:04:36
Speaker 7: as she didn't really have a lot of experience ahead
2:04:40
Speaker 7: of her to help her to basically learn that point
2:04:42
Speaker 7: guard role like we've seen in years past. So I
2:04:45
Speaker 7: would I would say La is exactly the type of
2:04:50
Speaker 7: player that I feel has the potential to be a
2:04:53
Speaker 7: true game changer, maybe not this year, but in the
2:04:56
Speaker 7: future for this Utah team. And this year has just
2:04:59
Speaker 7: been so vital for her to be able to get
2:05:01
Speaker 7: the experience and to basically learn on her own. I'm
2:05:06
Speaker 7: a huge fan of Las, both on and off the court.
2:05:09
Speaker 7: Have loved getting to know her and getting to know
2:05:12
Speaker 7: really what makes her compete at the highest level. And
2:05:16
Speaker 7: she's she's a player that I just I cannot wait
2:05:19
Speaker 7: to see what her future holds, not just this year,
2:05:23
Speaker 7: but in the years to come as well.
2:05:26
Speaker 2: Nice to have a great call tomorrow. Thanks for your
2:05:29
Speaker 2: time today.
2:05:30
Speaker 7: Thank you.
2:05:31
Speaker 2: Ticeon Ewing, play by play voice of Utah Women's Basketball
2:05:36
Speaker 2: two o'clock tomorrow, Utah versus b YU. Right now USA
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Speaker 2: Slovakia eleven or nine left in the first USA up one,
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Speaker 2: seven shots for USA, five for Slovakia. It's one zero
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Speaker 2: and looks like someone's getting the power play here. The
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Speaker 2: airing of grievances is next eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 4: You have the piano mass sing us a song tonight.
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Speaker 1: She was listening to the Shan O'Connell Show from the
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Speaker 1: to one af N. The tradition of Festivus begins with
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Speaker 1: the airing of quicknesses.
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Speaker 7: I got a lot of problems with your people. Now
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Speaker 7: you're gonna hear about it.
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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Air
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Speaker 2: your grievances. We're gonna give away some breaking Benjamin tickets next.
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Speaker 2: They're coming to the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater on
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Speaker 2: September thirtieth eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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Speaker 2: With your grievances for now, James, this came in and
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Speaker 2: it's a bargain story that is also a grievance. Okay.
2:07:04
Speaker 2: I asked people to send in their best bargains that
2:07:06
Speaker 2: they ever achieved after my incredible find at Ross Dress
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Speaker 2: for less. This is from thirty nine to ninety. I
2:07:13
Speaker 2: thought this was a bargain, but I was wrong. I
2:07:15
Speaker 2: bought a nineteen eighty six Fleer Michael Jordan Rookie card
2:07:19
Speaker 2: on a lesser known e commerce site for two dollars. Okay, wow,
2:07:25
Speaker 2: But when it arrived it was literally a photo copy
2:07:29
Speaker 2: of the real thing. Ouch. My wife did this for me.
2:07:35
Speaker 2: When you know, when Utah went to the Rose Bowl
2:07:37
Speaker 2: the first time and they had those really cool hoodies
2:07:41
Speaker 2: with the Sonan patches that were team exclusives, interlocking us
2:07:48
Speaker 2: with the Rose through the U, I was like, man,
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Speaker 2: I really like that. I want one of those. And
2:07:55
Speaker 2: I said that in front of my wife, not thinking, hey,
2:07:57
Speaker 2: you should get me that because I knew they were
2:07:59
Speaker 2: team exclusives, just saying, I gotta find a way. I
2:08:02
Speaker 2: got to finagle somebody up there at the university. I
2:08:05
Speaker 2: got to raid Kyle Whittingham's locker whatever. So she went
2:08:09
Speaker 2: online to try and find it and bought it off
2:08:11
Speaker 2: some like bootleg podunk site, and it was it was
2:08:16
Speaker 2: literally someone had taken like a PDF file of what
2:08:21
Speaker 2: that actually looked like, and they had printed it crudely
2:08:26
Speaker 2: with like I don't know, a laser printer onto the
2:08:30
Speaker 2: front of a white hoodie. So you gotta be careful
2:08:34
Speaker 2: with e commerce, all right. That's why shopping in stores
2:08:39
Speaker 2: still relevant. On some level. It's far more convenient to
2:08:43
Speaker 2: just have it shipped to your house, But if you
2:08:45
Speaker 2: don't trust the price or the quality, you could obviously
2:08:49
Speaker 2: touch it, feel it, look at it, and get a
2:08:51
Speaker 2: better sense. From Michael Carson, grievance against daylight savings, I
2:08:58
Speaker 2: wish we didn't observed light savings time, all right. It's
2:09:03
Speaker 2: interesting because normally that grievance comes in in the spring,
2:09:08
Speaker 2: when you spring forward and we're an hour of sleep,
2:09:12
Speaker 2: like a month loss away for that, right, we still
2:09:14
Speaker 2: got we still got some time? Is that beginning of
2:09:17
Speaker 2: March or into March?
2:09:18
Speaker 3: I always always forget it's still.
2:09:23
Speaker 2: Got time either way. Daylight Savings twenty twenty six, March eighth.
2:09:30
Speaker 3: So okay, so towards the beginning, all right, and so
2:09:32
Speaker 3: thank you for the reminder that we all see teen
2:09:34
Speaker 3: days away. We also hate the spring forward. Okay, yeah,
2:09:38
Speaker 3: I don't know that anyone days. Is there anyone that
2:09:40
Speaker 3: likes the spring forward? There's there can't be anyone that
2:09:43
Speaker 3: likes that. Nobody likes the spring forward. We all enjoy
2:09:46
Speaker 3: the extra hour of sleep that we can get, or
2:09:48
Speaker 3: the extra hour staying up. Yeah for that kind of
2:09:51
Speaker 3: a James, you got a kid, now that ain't the
2:09:54
Speaker 3: thing anymore. Although, because you can't your your small children
2:09:58
Speaker 3: until they hit like school a at least they don't
2:10:01
Speaker 3: know what time it is.
2:10:02
Speaker 2: They even have a concept of time. So the spring
2:10:05
Speaker 2: forward fallback thing doesn't matter when you've got kids. Yeah.
2:10:09
Speaker 3: Ohen the boy took it like a champ his first fallback,
2:10:13
Speaker 3: though we heard all the horror stories about how badly
2:10:16
Speaker 3: he just he slept right through it at a boy.
2:10:18
Speaker 3: Now he's all done he's had his own regression here recently.
2:10:21
Speaker 3: But that's okay.
2:10:23
Speaker 2: How about this. This is not a grievance. This is
2:10:25
Speaker 2: an anti grievance. I got a glass shower door that
2:10:29
Speaker 2: retailed for six hundred and seventy six dollars. I paid
2:10:31
Speaker 2: one penny for it.
2:10:33
Speaker 4: What.
2:10:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just the at home depot. It was
2:10:37
Speaker 2: a discontinued model, and the company had just come by
2:10:39
Speaker 2: the store to pick up all the doors that were
2:10:40
Speaker 2: left so they could take them to another location. They
2:10:43
Speaker 2: forgot one. I showed up minutes after they left, and
2:10:46
Speaker 2: the home depot people wanted to get rid of it
2:10:48
Speaker 2: and get it out of their store. One penny for
2:10:50
Speaker 2: a glass shower door that retail that's six seventy six.
2:10:54
Speaker 2: I love a good that is you never forget that deal.
2:10:57
Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing. Out there has the best deal that
2:11:01
Speaker 2: they've ever gotten. And you could probably say, what's the
2:11:04
Speaker 2: best deal you've ever you know, the best sale price
2:11:07
Speaker 2: you ever found, the biggest discount you ever found. Everyone knows. Man,
2:11:11
Speaker 2: it's great. James, you you have a grievance today.
2:11:17
Speaker 3: I do have a grievance, So I don't know, I
2:11:20
Speaker 3: don't know how many people saw this come through ESPN
2:11:24
Speaker 3: PR announce their women's sports Sundays that's going to be
2:11:29
Speaker 3: going on in the summer.
2:11:31
Speaker 4: Now.
2:11:31
Speaker 3: Of course they don't have Sunday Night Baseball, so that's
2:11:37
Speaker 3: why that's why they're looking to do something else. NBC
2:11:40
Speaker 3: will have the TV rights Sunday Baseball as non secuitor there.
2:11:45
Speaker 3: ESPN Radio still has the radio Sunday Night Baseball, so
2:11:48
Speaker 3: we're still your home of Sunday Night Baseball here in
2:11:51
Speaker 3: Utah ESPN seven hundred ninety two one FM, so you'll
2:11:54
Speaker 3: still get to hear Sunday Night Baseball on the radio here,
2:11:56
Speaker 3: but you'll have to go to NBC, Peacock whatever for TV.
2:12:00
Speaker 3: So anyway, because of that, because they didn't get the
2:12:03
Speaker 3: rights to Sunday Night Baseball, they kind of waive their
2:12:06
Speaker 3: chance to keep those rights. They want to pay as
2:12:09
Speaker 3: much as as MLB was asking for. They've decided we're
2:12:12
Speaker 3: going to showcase women's sports, which there's a lot going
2:12:15
Speaker 3: on in the summer.
2:12:16
Speaker 4: Right.
2:12:16
Speaker 3: You got WNBA, you got NWSL. Those are the two
2:12:19
Speaker 3: biggest ones you've got. I'm sure I think ESPN's a
2:12:23
Speaker 3: partner of the ausl Utah talents. You'll probably see some
2:12:28
Speaker 3: of that on on women's sports Sundays. And there's places
2:12:32
Speaker 3: I saw the New York Post, I saw OutKick, I
2:12:35
Speaker 3: saw a few others with some misleading headlines saying women's
2:12:39
Speaker 3: sports Sundays to replace Sunday Night Baseball, which and then
2:12:43
Speaker 3: and then just railing on how we're showcasing women's sports
2:12:47
Speaker 3: and how dumb it was to get rid of baseball
2:12:50
Speaker 3: so you could showcase women's sports. Like, first of all,
2:12:54
Speaker 3: they didn't choose not to have the rights. I mean
2:12:56
Speaker 3: they kind of did, but baseball was the one they
2:13:00
Speaker 3: decided it wasn't worth their price.
2:13:01
Speaker 2: Range to keep Sunday Night baseball.
2:13:04
Speaker 3: And then baseball went in another direction, and there you
2:13:07
Speaker 3: they're they're deciding, hey, let's showcase women's sports instead. I'm
2:13:10
Speaker 3: just sick of some of these places. It's not always
2:13:13
Speaker 3: a New York Post, but OutKick is certainly one, and
2:13:16
Speaker 3: some of these other places just any chance they get
2:13:19
Speaker 3: ripping on women's.
2:13:20
Speaker 2: Sports for it, just just to rip on women's sports.
2:13:23
Speaker 3: People are liking it a lot more because it's entertaining,
2:13:26
Speaker 3: and also what other sports you got going on in
2:13:29
Speaker 3: the summer, Like you're really watching Sunday Night Baseball all
2:13:32
Speaker 3: the time.
2:13:33
Speaker 2: You're not, well, yeah, that's why they didn't want to
2:13:36
Speaker 2: pay the price that Major League Baseball was asking for it.
2:13:38
Speaker 3: Come on, Also, I'm not I don't watch every women's
2:13:41
Speaker 3: sporting event. I don't watch every NFL game, but you don't.
2:13:46
Speaker 3: There's just just stop ripping on women's sports. Just to
2:13:49
Speaker 3: rip on women's sports. Guess what they should have a
2:13:53
Speaker 3: chance to play in primetime too.
2:13:55
Speaker 2: There's there's literally nothing wrong with wanting to support women's
2:14:02
Speaker 2: professional leagues, women's collegiate athletics, whatever. And there's also nothing
2:14:06
Speaker 2: wrong with if you're not into that, if you don't
2:14:08
Speaker 2: want to watch it, fine, Like I don't. I wish
2:14:12
Speaker 2: everyone watched MMA. I wish very specifically everyone watched the PFL.
2:14:16
Speaker 2: I think that people would really really get on board
2:14:19
Speaker 2: with combat sports if they learned a little bit about it,
2:14:21
Speaker 2: they got on board with it, they would like it. Right.
2:14:25
Speaker 2: If you don't, I'm not like, well, I'm going to
2:14:29
Speaker 2: write an opinion piece about this. You're an idiot for
2:14:32
Speaker 2: liking things that I don't like. I legitimately don't understand
2:14:36
Speaker 2: how people spend an entire Sunday or an entire four
2:14:39
Speaker 2: day weekend watching in like a golf tournament, a PGA tournament.
2:14:44
Speaker 2: It's just not my thing. I'll like tease my friends
2:14:48
Speaker 2: about it. But if that's what you want to do, great.
2:14:51
Speaker 2: If you want to watch the women instead of the men, awesome.
2:14:53
Speaker 2: If you want to watch only the women, awesome. If
2:14:55
Speaker 2: you want to watch only the men, awesome. We are
2:14:59
Speaker 2: past the with all of our entertainment options where it's
2:15:02
Speaker 2: a threat to anything if you want to watch anything else.
2:15:06
Speaker 2: Because Sunday Night Baseball has a different home. It didn't
2:15:12
Speaker 2: get replaced by this Sunday night women's sports thing. It
2:15:16
Speaker 2: just has a different home. And what was your expectation
2:15:20
Speaker 2: that the network that no longer has Sunday Night Baseball
2:15:22
Speaker 2: was just going to fill that time with blank space
2:15:27
Speaker 2: or with somebody talking about Sunday Night Baseball, which you
2:15:30
Speaker 2: already weren't watching.
2:15:31
Speaker 3: Silly Yeah, yo, uh sorry, We're not sorry, not We're
2:15:35
Speaker 3: we're not carrying high level men's pickleball like women's sports
2:15:41
Speaker 3: WNBA in particular in the summertime. People are interested in that,
2:15:46
Speaker 3: and ESPN has picked up on that and they want
2:15:48
Speaker 3: to showcase women's sports. No, there shouldn't be No one
2:15:51
Speaker 3: should have any issue with that.
2:15:53
Speaker 2: Uh this from zero three to three on Jordan Grievens
2:15:58
Speaker 2: up myself for driving by ross all the time and
2:16:00
Speaker 2: never checking it out. Congrats on the sweet bye oh see,
2:16:03
Speaker 2: thank you. That's what I'm looking for. I just want
2:16:05
Speaker 2: validation for my incredible bargain find When you're a cheapskate,
2:16:10
Speaker 2: when you care way too much about pinching pennies, you
2:16:13
Speaker 2: just want to feel validated for that. You want people
2:16:17
Speaker 2: to tell you give you an Ada boy for finding
2:16:19
Speaker 2: a ridiculous deal. My grievance today is with these iPad
2:16:25
Speaker 2: children nowadays. If my three year old doesn't start toughening
2:16:28
Speaker 2: up soon, he's getting a trip two three years to Dagistan. Forget. Okay,
2:16:33
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're aware of that meme, but
2:16:36
Speaker 2: it's very hilarious and I get it nineteen forty three.
2:16:42
Speaker 2: Hold on, though, if you're talking about your own child
2:16:45
Speaker 2: as one of these iPad children, you know you know
2:16:51
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna say here, Right, If you have a
2:16:53
Speaker 2: problem with iPad children and you've given your kid the iPad,
2:16:57
Speaker 2: don't give them. There's a very easy solution, right, Send
2:17:01
Speaker 2: iPad two three years Daugistan and forget. Yeah, all right,
2:17:06
Speaker 2: see you later, right, and listen, when you or and
2:17:09
Speaker 2: I'm totally on board with that, when you or I
2:17:12
Speaker 2: or anyone else say that's the solution, we're not. We're
2:17:16
Speaker 2: not completely disregarding the meltdown that's going to happen and
2:17:20
Speaker 2: how hard that is to be around is a and
2:17:22
Speaker 2: I'm sure I have not experienced that yet.
2:17:24
Speaker 3: But you're looking for But yeah, like you just you
2:17:28
Speaker 3: got it. That's part of the deal. You got to
2:17:30
Speaker 3: kind of endure that as the parent too.
2:17:32
Speaker 2: And by the way, if I will, if you want
2:17:34
Speaker 2: to have an iPad kid, that's your thing, go for
2:17:37
Speaker 2: it or whatever. But if your eric a grievance against
2:17:40
Speaker 2: the iPad kid, the kids three man, you can do it.
2:17:44
Speaker 2: All right? Are we are we getting a sauna update today?
2:17:50
Speaker 2: We We have not gotten a call from Alec from
2:17:52
Speaker 2: from Vineyard yet. Alec, I hope you're doing well. I
2:17:55
Speaker 2: hope it just means that the sauna situation has worked out. Ali.
2:18:00
Speaker 2: You might also want to start a business where you
2:18:03
Speaker 2: just say the things nobody else wants to say. You
2:18:06
Speaker 2: do the dirty work, right, maybe like you become the
2:18:11
Speaker 2: bad guy here you go to you go to this, uh,
2:18:16
Speaker 2: this place, hold on, who is it You go find
2:18:22
Speaker 2: the iPad child and you just steal the iPad? And
2:18:25
Speaker 2: that is that mom or Dad's fault. It's alex fault.
2:18:29
Speaker 2: It's Alex. The saunic guy came and stole your ipadnic
2:18:34
Speaker 2: guy confrontations that might actually be traumatic for the child.
2:18:39
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's a good idea, but
2:18:41
Speaker 3: you know what, that reminds me of your TV reference alert,
2:18:48
Speaker 3: the lessons from Arrested Arrested Development their father's lessons where
2:18:53
Speaker 3: they always had the guy who had the prosthetic arm
2:18:55
Speaker 3: come in and lose his arm some ways, and that's
2:18:58
Speaker 3: why you always take the trash out before bed.
2:19:01
Speaker 2: I guess I'm playing someone else.
2:19:05
Speaker 3: Have someone else do the traumatic make your child go
2:19:08
Speaker 3: through a traumatic experience.
2:19:09
Speaker 2: It's not your fault if you need to like outsource
2:19:12
Speaker 2: the traumatic takeaways of childhood. Right like what happened to
2:19:15
Speaker 2: my binky? It's time for you to grow out of
2:19:18
Speaker 2: the binky. Alec from Vineyard is gonna come and he's
2:19:20
Speaker 2: gonna steal the binkys and you just like you're you're
2:19:24
Speaker 2: that much some of us are, right, your soft parenting
2:19:28
Speaker 2: demands that you can't traumatize your child. So you're just
2:19:31
Speaker 2: like it was somebody else?
2:19:33
Speaker 7: Was it?
2:19:33
Speaker 2: Mom or Dad? I'm on your side. I want you
2:19:36
Speaker 2: to have the iPad, I want you to have the binky's.
2:19:38
Speaker 2: This is Alex guy, He's the problem. He's just telling
2:19:41
Speaker 2: people how to behave in saunas and stealing candy and
2:19:45
Speaker 2: iPads and binkys from babies.
2:19:47
Speaker 3: Shut out to Alec if you, I mean, call us
2:19:50
Speaker 3: seriously if you've got something Alex. I do though, James,
2:19:54
Speaker 3: I do need you to air your wife's Oh, yes,
2:19:57
Speaker 3: because it is a literary grievance, which I very much appreciate.
2:20:00
Speaker 3: By the way, fifty seven seconds left in the first period,
2:20:04
Speaker 3: USA still up one zero over Slovakia. The BRN Peterson grievance. Yes,
2:20:11
Speaker 3: So she was telling me this a couple of nights ago.
2:20:15
Speaker 3: Books and movies that translate names or made up words
2:20:21
Speaker 3: into other languages. So she was thinking specifically Harry Potter.
2:20:25
Speaker 3: She's a big Harry Potter fan. Yeah, and she's like,
2:20:28
Speaker 3: why does Hogwarts need to be translated into Hungarian?
2:20:31
Speaker 2: For example? Why why does it it? I don't believe
2:20:35
Speaker 2: that it does.
2:20:35
Speaker 3: But she I told her about the nas goole Czechoslovakia
2:20:39
Speaker 3: and Wolfhound. Did they get that right? Story from the Olympics. Yeah,
2:20:44
Speaker 3: and now the name is Nasgule And she's like, that
2:20:48
Speaker 3: doesn't have a different name in Italian, right, Nascal. And
2:20:51
Speaker 3: I'm like, it probably does. The made up word though,
2:20:54
Speaker 3: how would it? I said, it probably doesn't.
2:20:55
Speaker 2: That's just me.
2:20:56
Speaker 3: That's an insight that I have from living in Europe,
2:20:58
Speaker 3: going on my mission in in Hungary, going, yeah, I
2:21:01
Speaker 3: learned that there were some that these things that I
2:21:04
Speaker 3: didn't think were translated were actually translated. So I couldn't
2:21:09
Speaker 3: find any other translations for nascul. But I did find
2:21:13
Speaker 3: that Hogwarts in Hungarian is rulksport spelled rock sports, which
2:21:19
Speaker 3: is way different than Hogwarts. So she's like, she's like grievance,
2:21:23
Speaker 3: and then looked up hermione grangeer.
2:21:26
Speaker 2: Do you know what that is in Dutch? Oh?
2:21:28
Speaker 3: See, no, it is hermelion griffle. And I'm sure I'm
2:21:34
Speaker 3: not pronouncing that right, but that's how it's spelled, hermelion griffle. Gollum,
2:21:40
Speaker 3: there's these are these are some funny ones. Gollum from
2:21:43
Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings. I don't need to tell you that,
2:21:46
Speaker 3: or Smiegel, the word Gollum in Finnish shout out to
2:21:52
Speaker 3: the Finns. Tough day for them on the hockey side
2:21:54
Speaker 3: of things. Uh, klonku that is Gollum in the Finnish
2:22:00
Speaker 3: version of the Lord of the Rings. Okay, Finnish translation
2:22:02
Speaker 3: klonku nothing, nothing close to golm. Then I looked up
2:22:06
Speaker 3: I didn't know this off and the Hungarian name for
2:22:10
Speaker 3: Galam is yellum, which literally nyell means swallow, so it
2:22:15
Speaker 3: literally means I swallow, which okay, that's a clever way,
2:22:19
Speaker 3: but like.
2:22:21
Speaker 2: It could just be Gollam. I don't know why you
2:22:25
Speaker 2: would change fictional names two different languages. USA another goal
2:22:29
Speaker 2: up to zero now as the first period is winding down,
2:22:33
Speaker 2: twenty seconds left. So yeah, that's her grievance, translating names
2:22:40
Speaker 2: or made up words from books and movies and other language.
2:22:43
Speaker 2: I had my own experience with this. Did you know
2:22:45
Speaker 2: that Mowana the movie Mawana is called Vayana in Europe?
2:22:50
Speaker 2: Is it really? Yes? And I was like, why would
2:22:53
Speaker 2: they change that name? It's mo Wana?
2:22:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because it's a Polynesian story, not keep the ponies.
2:23:01
Speaker 2: In Juana means ocean. If I'm not mistaken, in Somemon
2:23:04
Speaker 2: or something. But anyway, it's called Biana because there was
2:23:08
Speaker 2: like another company, like there's a trademark violation in Europe
2:23:13
Speaker 2: specifically where Disney couldn't call Mawana Mowana, they had to
2:23:16
Speaker 2: call it vuyana. Changes the whole thing. Yeah. Also apparently
2:23:21
Speaker 2: there's a different reason in Italy it's called Oceania. Oh,
2:23:27
Speaker 2: because there's a an actress of a particular type of
2:23:31
Speaker 2: film that's very famous in Italy whose name is her
2:23:35
Speaker 2: name's Moana, Mowana or Mona. Yeah, so they changed it
2:23:40
Speaker 2: there Italy specifically for that reason.
2:23:43
Speaker 3: See, that's better than Vana Vuyana. That's maybe Vayana means Oceania,
2:23:49
Speaker 3: I guess. But okay, I actually have another one. So
2:23:53
Speaker 3: cities in different not aggrievance, but just another one in
2:23:57
Speaker 3: this same the same line of thinking. Cities like New
2:24:03
Speaker 3: York City is not this. You don't say it the
2:24:06
Speaker 3: same way in another language all the time. Right, it's
2:24:09
Speaker 3: not just New York City, even though that's the it's
2:24:11
Speaker 3: an American name. So you would think maybe everyone just
2:24:14
Speaker 3: learns how to say New York City, right, I'll give
2:24:17
Speaker 3: you so. In Hungarian, the what they call Vienna is bitch.
2:24:24
Speaker 2: Okay, so which is like completely different. This is actually
2:24:27
Speaker 2: a really interesting thing for me. Like they do this
2:24:32
Speaker 2: in a lot of cities, right, the cognate the the
2:24:38
Speaker 2: name of the city in like in Moscow for whatever,
2:24:41
Speaker 2: Russians don't call Moscow Moscow, right, it's like mochba or whatever.
2:24:46
Speaker 2: I don't know the exact word. It's their city. We
2:24:50
Speaker 2: should call it by their name, right, Like we should
2:24:53
Speaker 2: all learn to say Moscow. Whoever Russians say Moscow, you
2:24:57
Speaker 2: should learn to say Poland. However, the Polish Poland, which
2:25:00
Speaker 2: is Polska.
2:25:01
Speaker 3: Like why do why do we call it Poland?
2:25:05
Speaker 2: And why do they call it Polska? Like it's your country,
2:25:09
Speaker 2: it's you know what, if you're Spanish, you should call
2:25:12
Speaker 2: the United States the United States losestadosnitos translates, but like,
2:25:19
Speaker 2: just just call it what it is. We should do that.
2:25:22
Speaker 2: If if Mexicans call Mexico Mexico, then we should all
2:25:26
Speaker 2: call it Mexico. It's very weird. That is Canada. I'm
2:25:30
Speaker 2: just gidding. Wait that one doesn't Like Japan, Japan is
2:25:34
Speaker 2: not called Japan by Japanese people. It's Nipon, that's right.
2:25:40
Speaker 4: Why do we call it that.
2:25:42
Speaker 2: It's Japan is not a word except for it's Japan. Like,
2:25:46
Speaker 2: what are we doing with this? Why? And it's fine,
2:25:50
Speaker 2: it's fine. But if if the the country has a
2:25:55
Speaker 2: name in its own language, we can all learn that,
2:25:58
Speaker 2: like Japan doesn't have a meaning. We're all capable.
2:26:01
Speaker 3: Of learning how to pronounce like names of country, small
2:26:06
Speaker 3: small things like that. We're all capable of doing that
2:26:08
Speaker 3: if we have to. So why did we Why did
2:26:10
Speaker 3: we change it to something else? Yeah, that's like a
2:26:13
Speaker 3: sub grievance of the of the larger grievance.
2:26:16
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of this. I mean, it's I've
2:26:18
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2:26:20
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Speaker 10: Uh, I'm glad you were able to clear up my
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Speaker 6: Of the week, the airing of grievances. Love it, it's
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Speaker 10: And then hopping the car and here you go on
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Speaker 10: to die tribe about women's sports being moved to Sunday
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Speaker 10: night to replace baseball. I'm like, oh, cool, cool topic.
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Speaker 10: My mom calls Happy Birthday, deb So I take the
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Speaker 10: call and then the call ends, radio comes back on
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Speaker 10: and James is pronouncing or he's he's uh, basically telling
2:29:50
Speaker 10: us what Harry Potter names would sound like in Dutch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So it took. It was a little bit of a
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Speaker 6: non sequent I was a little confused.
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Speaker 2: There's a grievance aired against fictional names needing to be
2:30:02
Speaker 2: translated into another language. It's just a name. If if
2:30:05
Speaker 2: it's a proper noun, it should just be the same
2:30:08
Speaker 2: in every language. I agree with that, and that's what
2:30:10
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Speaker 2: airing of grievances is so special to the show. It
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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going on a gorilla trek, nice humble
2:30:28
Speaker 2: brag flex it's awesome. And you had to get some
2:30:33
Speaker 2: real like waterproof hiking boots, which I don't have. So
2:30:36
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I went and I found at Ross
2:30:40
Speaker 2: Dress for less a pair of boots.
2:30:42
Speaker 6: You went to Ross.
2:30:43
Speaker 2: I go to Ross all the time. I love Ros.
2:30:45
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying, like, same cool, keep going, I love Ross. Yeah, same.
2:30:48
Speaker 2: Ross has incredible bargains on very specific things. Yeah, if
2:30:52
Speaker 2: you're not shopping there, you're missing out.
2:30:54
Speaker 6: I agree.
2:30:55
Speaker 2: I found a pair of boots Spence and the price
2:30:57
Speaker 2: tag is forty nine.
2:31:01
Speaker 6: Forty nine cents for a pair of boots.
2:31:02
Speaker 2: And I look, I pull up my phone. I'm like,
2:31:04
Speaker 2: this is what are these like the worst brand in
2:31:06
Speaker 2: the history of the world or whatever. No, the retail
2:31:09
Speaker 2: suggested retail prices like one hundred and forty five dollars. Online,
2:31:13
Speaker 2: you can go to like Cabella's right now and they're
2:31:15
Speaker 2: one hundred bucks. And I'm just like what, So I
2:31:17
Speaker 2: take it up to the cashier and I'm like, this
2:31:20
Speaker 2: is mislabel whatever. She's like, oh, you're lucky. That's the price.
2:31:26
Speaker 6: Something's got to give.
2:31:27
Speaker 10: You're gonna be on your track and like your feet
2:31:29
Speaker 10: are gonna fall off or something.
2:31:31
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what she goes. Yeah, sometimes
2:31:34
Speaker 2: we have these like extreme they're just trying to liquidate,
2:31:36
Speaker 2: get this off the shelves, and you're you found the pair.
2:31:39
Speaker 2: You're lucky.
2:31:40
Speaker 10: Wow, fifty three cents after tax. Don't include the four
2:31:44
Speaker 10: cents after tax.
2:31:46
Speaker 2: It's that's how much it was.
2:31:47
Speaker 6: That's I'm very impressed.
2:31:49
Speaker 2: That's the hell of a bar. I love a bargain hunt.
2:31:51
Speaker 2: I love that it's just to win, you know.
2:31:53
Speaker 6: Is that the potentially the best bargain?
2:31:55
Speaker 2: You bet, it's my all time best bargain. Previously, what
2:31:57
Speaker 2: held the title was I have a a full Cashmere
2:32:03
Speaker 2: John W. Nordstrom brand UH sport code.
2:32:08
Speaker 10: That I got for eight dollars, a Cashmere sports you
2:32:11
Speaker 10: got it for eight bucks?
2:32:13
Speaker 2: Is this the d or Yeah? It was my previous
2:32:16
Speaker 2: best bargain. Fine, that's like seven and that held the
2:32:20
Speaker 2: title until today.
2:32:22
Speaker 10: Well, I'm very happy for you because I know the
2:32:25
Speaker 10: dopamine hit you get when you save a buck.
2:32:27
Speaker 2: I know you do. I'm a big bargain hunter.
2:32:30
Speaker 6: I'm thrilled.
2:32:31
Speaker 10: So uh, I've got it offer for you ready, Okay,
2:32:35
Speaker 10: because I I know you want to get into golf.
2:32:39
Speaker 10: You reference the callaway driver that you're gonna go get
2:32:42
Speaker 10: the ball speed.
2:32:43
Speaker 2: So I forget it. Don't I forget it. You will
2:32:45
Speaker 2: not see me swing anything else.
2:32:47
Speaker 10: No, that's what I'm saying. I will teach you how
2:32:50
Speaker 10: to golf if so. Here's what I need from you.
2:32:54
Speaker 10: I got a pretty good right cross. I've tested it out.
2:32:57
Speaker 10: If it lands on all right, okay. And he needs
2:33:00
Speaker 10: you to teach me how to kick someone's ass responsibly. Okay,
2:33:03
Speaker 10: there's somebody out there who needs his ass kicked. I'm
2:33:05
Speaker 10: going to kick his ass, okay, and I need you
2:33:08
Speaker 10: to teach me how to do it responsibly because he
2:33:09
Speaker 10: also happens to be like my best friend.
2:33:11
Speaker 2: How much time you got?
2:33:13
Speaker 6: How how long will this take? Because here's what I'm
2:33:15
Speaker 6: looking for for you. Come on, man, I'm you know.
2:33:18
Speaker 2: No, you're in shit.
2:33:19
Speaker 10: You're in great shape right now, forty eight years old.
2:33:21
Speaker 10: But I can throw these things if I need to
2:33:23
Speaker 10: a little. Yeah, you know one's sixty five. Okay, good, good,
2:33:28
Speaker 10: But but like I love this person, he he badly
2:33:32
Speaker 10: needs his ass kicked, and next time I see him,
2:33:34
Speaker 10: which is this weekend, I'm going.
2:33:35
Speaker 6: To kick his ass.
2:33:36
Speaker 10: Okay, So how long will it take for you to
2:33:38
Speaker 10: teach me how to responsibly kick his ass so he
2:33:41
Speaker 10: feels some pain?
2:33:42
Speaker 6: He needs to feel pain. How is he your size?
2:33:46
Speaker 2: Is he my size?
2:33:47
Speaker 4: No?
2:33:47
Speaker 6: He's like no, he's small.
2:33:48
Speaker 10: Like he's probably well dating app five nine, real life
2:33:52
Speaker 10: five seven. Okay, he's scrappy though, he's a scrappy little kid,
2:33:56
Speaker 10: little dude, all right, So I will probably need to
2:33:58
Speaker 10: submit him and I will want him to question whether
2:34:01
Speaker 10: or not he is about to die and then ultimately
2:34:03
Speaker 10: live and then be prosperous.
2:34:05
Speaker 2: Okay, great, So how long will this take? I mean
2:34:07
Speaker 2: I could I could teach you how to reliably and
2:34:10
Speaker 2: consistently execute a choke in a couple of weeks, okay,
2:34:13
Speaker 2: all right, as long as he doesn't know how to defend.
2:34:15
Speaker 2: But no chance, Yeah you're all right? Okay, good, So
2:34:19
Speaker 2: I really could teach you in one afternoon. But in
2:34:21
Speaker 2: order to like, even if he's squirming and running and
2:34:23
Speaker 2: being crazy, that'll take a couple of weeks.
2:34:26
Speaker 10: One caveat here. You're not allowed to do any of
2:34:29
Speaker 10: the stuff on me.
2:34:30
Speaker 2: Ah see, Spence, Wait.
2:34:31
Speaker 6: Is that part of the deal.
2:34:32
Speaker 2: You have to be able to You can't learn without experiencing.
2:34:37
Speaker 10: I don't think I want you to put me in
2:34:39
Speaker 10: a choke hold. I had a buddy who was in
2:34:41
Speaker 10: MMA hardcore, had his own gym, lost his mind, got
2:34:45
Speaker 10: into scientology, lives in Elliott's, the whole thing. But before that,
2:34:49
Speaker 10: he just for the fun of it, he would put
2:34:52
Speaker 10: all of us in choke holds. Yeah, that's not fun
2:34:54
Speaker 10: when you're the one being choked out, it's not an
2:34:56
Speaker 10: enjoyable experience.
2:34:57
Speaker 2: Okay, that's how I feel about going in golf with
2:35:00
Speaker 2: my friends.
2:35:01
Speaker 10: Fair, fair, all right, well, let me weigh this, Let
2:35:06
Speaker 10: me weigh this out, Let me weigh this out. But yeah,
2:35:08
Speaker 10: there's a guy out there who needs his ass. Cake,
2:35:10
Speaker 10: I'm gonna kick his ass this weekend. Well, I wish
2:35:12
Speaker 10: you luck, thank you. And he's also one of my
2:35:14
Speaker 10: best friends. Well that's even better. We all need a
2:35:18
Speaker 10: friend that when we're out of control, they can grab us.
2:35:21
Speaker 10: I'll give you an example. A few years back, Red
2:35:24
Speaker 10: at dinner, it's like ten of us. You know, we've
2:35:26
Speaker 10: all known each other since college. Buddy walks in in
2:35:30
Speaker 10: a fedora in a scarf, and I'm like, nope, you
2:35:33
Speaker 10: can't sit with us. I went full Regina George, like
2:35:37
Speaker 10: you are not, I'm not having dinner with you if
2:35:39
Speaker 10: you're wearing that stupid fedora. Okay, and he removed the
2:35:43
Speaker 10: f door and we had dinner. You have to have
2:35:45
Speaker 10: a friend that will let you know like, no, I'm
2:35:49
Speaker 10: sorry that you saw a video of a fedora and
2:35:51
Speaker 10: you thought you would look cool, but not in this
2:35:53
Speaker 10: friend group. There's no fedoras allowed in this friend group. Yeah,
2:35:56
Speaker 10: that's important. There's only one type of person that can
2:35:58
Speaker 10: pull off a fedora, an attractive woman.
2:36:02
Speaker 6: That's it.
2:36:03
Speaker 2: That's even a stretch.
2:36:05
Speaker 6: Jason Moraz. But he sucks.
2:36:07
Speaker 2: No, he's great, No, he's not awesome.
2:36:10
Speaker 6: Don't say that.
2:36:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love Jason.
2:36:12
Speaker 10: Did you know what's ever said the phrase we love
2:36:16
Speaker 10: Jason Moraz?
2:36:17
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
2:36:18
Speaker 6: I'm gonna play Jason Maras on the show.
2:36:19
Speaker 2: You should that's every in and out, all right.
2:36:22
Speaker 6: Let me let so. So the offer is, look, you
2:36:27
Speaker 6: have to choke me out.
2:36:28
Speaker 2: I will golf with you if you will train with me.
2:36:30
Speaker 2: That's it.
2:36:31
Speaker 10: Huh, this feels so uneven. Golf is supposed to be fun.
2:36:35
Speaker 10: Training is not fun.
2:36:35
Speaker 2: It is fun.
2:36:37
Speaker 10: Training is fun. It's so fun. I don't like the
2:36:39
Speaker 10: way you just looked at me and guess what I
2:36:41
Speaker 10: just saw. I just saw a fight, Sean. I just
2:36:43
Speaker 10: saw the look in Sean's eyes when he's fighting.
2:36:45
Speaker 2: All of my good friends, not all, but most of
2:36:48
Speaker 2: my good friends, all of my best friends, most of
2:36:50
Speaker 2: my very good friends. I have punched him in the
2:36:54
Speaker 2: face at some point. I have wrestled with them. I
2:36:56
Speaker 2: have tried to choke them, I've tried to break their arm.
2:36:59
Speaker 2: And the thing they've done to.
2:37:00
Speaker 10: Me in a controlled environment, though, Yes, because I punched
2:37:04
Speaker 10: a friend once upon a time, I asked, we're not
2:37:05
Speaker 10: friends anymore? Though that ended the entire friendship. Okay, well
2:37:08
Speaker 10: it was not a controlled environment. It's it or it's
2:37:11
Speaker 10: just a week friendship. It was to be fair.
2:37:13
Speaker 2: There you go.
2:37:14
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, let me consider over the weekend. I'll
2:37:16
Speaker 6: go back to you.
2:37:18
Speaker 2: Team USA up two zero on Slovakia. Stay tuned for
2:37:21
Speaker 2: the drive. Thanks for listening to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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