Latest / Patriots Unfiltered / Patriots Unfiltered 8/4: Training Camp takeaways, Offensive inconsistency, Injury bug strikes

Transcript

Patriots Unfiltered 8/4: Training Camp takeaways, Offensive inconsistency, Injury bug strikes · Patriots Unfiltered

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. We'll struggling here, uh in the early days
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: of camp big boss man. He's out today, So you
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: got fortunate because I won't get him to punch, which
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: was my goal of the last year. Just wrote in
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: asking about about Lebrian Ray. Yeah. Perfect, Yeah, we've gotten
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: to Lebrian Ray portion. I thought that Paul nailed it
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: when he said it's another one of the there's another
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: one that's gonna go follow. In this business, the line
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage has been dominated by the defense through two
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: padded practices. Really, Paul, what have you seeing? What do
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: the mechanics look like? Can you give us some insight.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest and say I've stopped watching regular
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: season game with twenty nineteen they lost to the Dolphins advantage,
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: and you can scoff. The whole thing goes back to
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Mike was right. Football illness are not football but probably
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: a non football illness. I don't think it's football related flu.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: I don't. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan, all right,
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: we are back here, Patriots, unfiltered. Welcome in, guys. It
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: is Thursday. I think it's Thursday. We just got off
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: the field practice number eight and it was a hot
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: one out there today, A nice breefe though, Paul, I
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: think that was that made it a little bit comfortable
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: out there. I would agree. We went up to our purse.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: I was expecting the worst. Yeah, it was. It was bad.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: We were kind of expecting a lot today, and I
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: think across the board a lot of those expectations weren't
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: quite met in many avenues. Yeah, I mean, at this point,
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: Mike get all seriousness. I I do wonder if maybe
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: there's just a little bit of you know what this is,
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: what kind of what we're expecting we need to get
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: these bass plays in, maybe some of the defensive looks,
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: or you know that that's not as scripted as maybe
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: you know other times, and this struggling. I just feel
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: like it still looks to me like Mac is having
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: a hard time consistently finding open guys. I thought there
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: were times when it appeared that there were some options,
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: some opportunities, and then even on those he's sort of
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: holding the ball a little bit longer. I've seen him
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: hold the ball more often in this camp than I
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: did the entirety of last spring and summer. Yeah, I mean,
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: I would you agree with that? I do agree with you,
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it yesterday, and you know,
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: it's just an unfortunate realization. And I think you're living
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: in a place of how much is acceptable at this point?
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: And at what point do you feel like you're not
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: getting enough done and not getting those things corrected and
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: in order With a game coming up, we talked about
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: we got an in stadium practice. Bill Belichick said this
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: morning that that's going to be kind of the game
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: day mechanics, where what tunnel you come out if there's
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: not going to be you know, some extensive field work
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night inside the stadium. And as of right now,
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to be off Saturday Sunday and then there's
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: going to be two practices next week and then a game.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: So is that what you did? You hear it? No?
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: I haven't, but I haven't. I mean, they announced two
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: more practices Monday Tuesday. Haven't seen. I didn't. I didn't know.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was not aware of the Sunday
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: there just hasn't been Tuesday updates. I mean, I think
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: we're all anticipating that maybe there should be a practice there.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, as much as maybe we don't want to.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: I was anticipating practice on Sunday. I'm still kind of
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: having my radar up for it. They usually don't get
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: two days off. But if they announced practice is open
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: to the public on Monday and Tuesday, then I guess
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: is the practicing. But it's not open. So it's a
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: little bit striking that that, you know, it's just offensively,
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: it hasn't really been able to put place together. And
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: I think you laid it out well, Paul. It was
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean a lot of people I saw
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: it early in camp. Guys aren't getting open. I agree
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: with though though there were guys open, it just doesn't
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: seem like Max seine it right now, and they're not
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: executing consistently. There's a play here, a play there, but
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: it's it's just nothing. Here's what I wonder, And this
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: is a really really big picture kind of thing that
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: maybe is not conducive for the you know, the middle
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: of training camp, which let's face it, I know it
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: seems like it just started Mike. But in terms of
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: what we'll we'll be able to watch. There's a long
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: way to go for the team, but in terms of
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: our viewing, we're gonna get about sixteen or seventeen practices halfway,
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: So we're almost halfway there. So we've seen about what
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, half of what we're gonna see.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: It just looks like a bunch of guys that aren't
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: really like I don't know if they have a conviction
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: and what they're doing. And you know, when I say
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: a bunch of guys, I mean I don't. This is
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: not on mac Jones. Please don't take this as Paul
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: is killing the quarterback again. I'm not. I just wonder
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: if some of the stuff they're doing is things that
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: they're not overly comfortable with, and when you don't fully
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: believe in it, I think it's hard to execute it. Now.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: That's one part. There's another part. We had a little
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: bit of a conversation upstairs about the whole Shanahan offense.
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: And I used air quotes because who knows exactly what
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: they're doing for a system? Okay, but if they are
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: to be running this new version of these you know,
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: shouldn't it be more like the issue and there have
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: been issues in the running game, but should it be
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: affecting the passing in as much as it is exactly?
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: Isn't the passing game execution on the training camp practice
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: field level more about you go out, You're supposed to
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: run this route, Go run it and beat the guy
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: covering you, and you throw it to him like that's
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: that to me is not overly schematic. It's not like
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: I used to be able to run a route and
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: get open when it was doing it that way. Now
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time because we're doing it this way.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, very simplistic, you know, neo fhight football observer.
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not trying to tell you I know
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: what the uh you know, the whole intent outs are.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: And that was the hope I, you know, going into
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: practice today. Bill in his pre camp sorry some banging
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: going on here it is pre camp press conference, said,
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna get into a little bit more
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: situational stuff today, a little bit more in the middle
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: of the field. And I think that's what I had
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: kind of been waiting for to see. You know, the
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: coach is not rushing in, you know, some kind of
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: continuity between between the lays, especially in the passing game,
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: like you said, where that's what that's what's been clunky.
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: It hasn't you know. It's fine if you want to
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: talk about zone runs and all that, but it's the
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: passing game that just doesn't seem like they're seeing it yet.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: Now that maybe that means that they will see it eventually.
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe mac Jones will, you know, get more comfortable and
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: seem to know where to go quickly with the ball.
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: But I think your point at the top was it
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: was a great one and that's the strength of mac
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: Jones when he came in, was identifying with the coverage
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: is quick decision get the ball out. That was you
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: know why they why they love him. We're not seeing
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: so much of that. I mean, I would almost say,
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: and you know I'm not. I'm not trying to stir
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: the pot, but you know, Bailey's athlete has had a
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: couple throws. What I felt like, it's funny because we
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: keep joking about it every day and now all of
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: a sudden it's been three or four days. And don't
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: discount I said, I used to say this stuff last
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: year when it was Cam Newton and Mac Jones. Don't
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: discount that one guy's getting a different look than another,
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and who he's playing against. And I do
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: think that maybe for Zappy it's more about, hey, we
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: need to execute the place. You just need the reps
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: to get Because I thought it was interesting today that
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: Hoyer was back, you know, fully fully back in full uniform,
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: and Zappy got the two you know, the second reps.
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: Now that makes sense. Soon Howyer missed five days, give
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: him a little time to get reacclimated. I did think
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: he looked a little rusty throwing the ball in some
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: of the other drills, but the full eleven on eleven
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: it was Mac Jones and then Bailey Zappy, two different sets. Yeah,
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, you're right. I mean, if
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: I have to, if I'm going to be honest and fair,
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: when the players are running Zappy, he's running them. They
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: look better. Now everything you said is accurate. He's doing
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: it against third stringers and with backups, and there's still
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: plenty of times that he has to pull the ball
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: down and run around too. It's not exactly been a
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: juggernaut when he's out right well as you guys can
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: probably tell it's just Mike and Paul right now. We
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: are expecting more people to be joining us. Evan will
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: be coming in a little bit. He's up writing right now.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: But sometimes all the interviews spill over and people are
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: off doing various things. So we jumped right in at
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: the top on kind of the offense, which of course
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: feels like the big headline of training camp as far.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: But but let's get some housekeeping stuff out of the
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: way too. Guys back today Jibrol Pepper's Malcolm Butler and
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: and Hoyer numbers three, four and five. So back in
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: pads today after pulling back yesterday. Unfortunately, it looked like
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: maybe a significant injury to to Gilani Tavai. That's gonna
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: be something we're gonna need to keep an eye on.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: There was definitely a lot of concern, I would say,
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: on the field for him. Um it was. I mean,
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: there was a couple of different accounts. It seemed like
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: it was a non contact kind of an injury. It
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: looked like and I talked to a couple of different
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: people and it said it looked like he was sort
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: of moving in and kind of buckled. It wasn't but
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: it could have been. It was a running place, so
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: it could have been maybe Aligneman got got on him
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But it didn't look good. It didn't.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: It didn't look good. And I know that like Steve
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Belichick and Gerard Mayo both went with him to the
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: medical temp bill, you know, the linebacker coaches obviously with
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: a linebacker, UM, you don't ever want to lose lose
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: any players, especially in a practice setting. So that was unfortunate. Yeah,
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: we've talked about They've had pretty good health so far
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: and been pretty lucky. Guys that have gone out of
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: have all been at least back or you know there
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: for the initial portions, maybe because they go down to
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: the field, but everybody's seemed has been upright so far.
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: So unfortunate injuries something to monitor. Also a little bit
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: of fun today it's a traditional day where just to
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: hold off on that for one point seconds. Continuing with
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: the uh the bookkeeping, Matthew Judahon was not spotted today
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: at practice. Fairly significant player obviously, UM not sure. I
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: didn't see him out of uniform anyway, either, did you. No? No, no,
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's anything physical going on
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: or if you know, maybe he had a personal matter
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: to attend to. But we didn't see him today, and
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: he was scheduled pre pre practice. He was one of
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: the players that we had listed that we were going
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: to get a chance to speak to. So yeah, no,
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: no on today. Something to watch. I mean, God bless him.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: He's always out there in a sweatshirt, so I don't
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: know how he would have done today. Although, as we said,
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: not as hot, a little bit of wind, but it
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: was made a little bit easier. Thought it was great,
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit easier. Yeah, they loved that southern Southern heat.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Not quite the humidity today, but tradition every year they
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: early and early in the day you see the coaches
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: spraying down the top of the hill with water and
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: then they kind of have a loose ball drill. They
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: throw the ball down, Matthew Slayter manning the hose, dousing
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: all the rookies, the rookie coaches as well. So a
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of fun there at the start of practice.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: And I heard Taekwon Thorte say, you know, it actually
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: was pretty nice. He got cooled up before practice, felt
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: it was one of his better practices. So he thinks
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: maybe he should do that all the time. I got
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: to go for a swim every practice, but planning to
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: get to uh we saw practice yesterday a little bit
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: of a dialed back version. No pads back into pads today.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: But I love to hear from you guys, of course,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: please write in with your questions web radio Patriots dot com.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: Give us a buzz on the on the eight five
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: five pats five hundred. I can't seem to remember that number.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: I'll get it eventually, but we've got some questions certainly
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: coming in now. And so I did think, you know,
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: the offense continues to be I think the main focus
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: of training camp so far. I mean, I think every
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: day one of us is coming away talking about the offense. Right.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: I think there were some signs I did think there wasn't.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: I think it was two sets of eight plays that
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones was involved with with the team. At the
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: end of the day, the running game is going nowhere
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: and there's almost no opportunities for any yardage on the ground.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: The passing game, there's too many times where Mac, I think,
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: is forced to pull the ball down. Now when he
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: was able to throw the ball in rhythm, I felt
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: like he did a he had a decent job of
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: I think he hit Jono Smith on a little hook
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: that looked, you know, in rhythm. One of the later
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: plays that Mac was involved might have been his last play. Um,
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: a nice sort of drag out across the backland of
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: the end zone fire corner to Trey Nixon and you
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: know Matt threw his hands up in the air for
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. So it's not with Yeah, it's not without
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: any moments. I mean they have they've had, they've had
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: some periods. You know. I just want to sort of
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: like paint the entire picture and not just do the
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: sensationalistic view of all, we're not gonna be able to
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: move up. Last year, we couldn't force a punt. This year,
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna get a first down. You know, Like
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: it's not like that. It hasn't been that bad. Um,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: it's just been really clunky, and I think for US
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Patriots watchers that have been around for a long time
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: and just not used to seeing on the practice field
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: sort of spotty execution, it's been jarring to see and
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: you know you can't help but sort of try to
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: put two and two together and say, is it a
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: new system? Is it the new coordinators. Is there a
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: lack of communication? Uh? There certainly seems to be. There
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: was another play with John who Smith that certainly looked
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: like Mac and Smith weren't on the same page. Mac
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: through the ball of the outside. Joe Smith sort of
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: stopped and then Mac went up to him after the
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: play and was sort of gesturing, which told me that
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: it was probably on John. Um. So there's still some
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: of those kinds of periods. And like you said, Mike,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: it's still too many runarounds and not finding anybody to
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: throw to it, isn't. I mean, there's just not a
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: lot of plays that look like Patriot plays, even the
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: ones that they complete. Sometimes they're exciting, maybe DeVante Parker
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: with some of those contested catches early on, which you
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: know hasn't only been there Bread and Butter. I think
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: they're just missing that kind of you know, bing bang boom,
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: it's out. You know though those kind of plays, it
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like there's enough of them. But you
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: mentioned Trey Nixon. I mean I thought of everybody. He
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: popped a little bit today for me, just in terms
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: of his quickness and kind of standing out with a
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: couple moves of shaking loose here and there. We're finally
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: going to have one. Yeah, there's a guy that you
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: and I really disagree on. Yeah, and it's okay. You
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: don't have to put that, you don't have to put
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: that look on your face. This is what the show
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: was all about, all right, conflict, let's do it. Um. Yeah,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I think he's fine. Like I think he's fine. I
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: think he's one of I think he's in a mold
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: of many receivers that are coming gone through here. I
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: think he is a lower half of the receiving depth
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: chart kind of option. I think he's a littlely consistent.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: I think he had a drop today in a past
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: that was just a little behind him, but I thought
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: he should have caught it. He's made some plays here
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: and there. I think I think he's I think that
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of people think of him in the mold
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: of the other guy, you know, like, oh, he's, you know,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: sort of small. He's not that small, and he's a
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: little he's a little shiftier. But I think he's got
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: some straight line speed too, So I don't think he's
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: without skill. But I don't think I'm as high on
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: him as you are. And I don't I don't know
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: how high I am I think, I mean, what might
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: actually be the problem? I know what, I'm pretty high.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: The problem might be just that there aren't a lot
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: of shifty guys on the offense. I mean, they've got
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of long, fast guys. And I don't know,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I think some of his some of his moments just
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: show me that he can kind of shake a guy
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: loose and get open quick and and as I said
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: at the top, I felt like that's not really what's
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: been happening. And you know, we'll see. I mean, he
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: certainly has has, you know, maybe ticked up his reps
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: with the top guys maybe five percent. I mean, just
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit here and there, just a little little bit.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Nothing to say, I'm gonna, you know, blow the hype
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: train on him, But I think it just speaks to
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: the overall dynamic of the receiver group now where it
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: seems like they got a lot of tall guys with
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: some long speed, but not really those shifty, quick, open guys.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: And I will say this in terms of something I
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of weeks ago, toward the bottom of
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the depth chart at that spot, at that position, you know,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: look what they do right, and they went out in
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the last you know, six six weeks. They they got
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey and Josh Hammond. Well, I would say
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: without question, during the week plus that we've seen of
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: training camp, Christian Wilkerson and more more so Trey Nixon
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: have been well ahead of those newcomers in terms of
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: reps production just overall all fint and what they're doing right.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Those other guys sort of get in there, you know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: as scraps, whereas Nixon, as you pointed out, has gotten
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: some learningful rests like that last one was that was
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones and the quote unquote Ones on that last
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: play for a touchdown. So I thought that maybe they
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: were looking to add some quality to the depth. Well
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: if if these guys were brought in to push guys
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: like Wilkerson and Nixon, I think Nick Nixon in particular
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: has responded to that challenge. He's clearly ahead of those guys. Yeah,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: and I did see a ton out of Thornton today,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think overall, when you're talking about
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: trying to pull some positive elements from what you've seen
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: through the first week of camp, just as a rookie receiver.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: We know the history. Certainly some of his highlights have
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: popped up, you know, various reports, see some videos here
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and there. But you know, I think I think there's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: some promise with Nixon, and I'm sorry with with Thornton.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: It's something we've been talking about. The speed it's there.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: It seems like he's making progress us. I think we're
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: all getting to the point now where let that kid
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: play get him in there. As much as he said,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: oh he's going to be a ret shirt ear, it
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: seems like what he's doing out there, he just looks
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: a little comfortable, more comfortable to me every day, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: every day isn't splashy plays or you know, certainly he's
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: part of this offense that has been up and I
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: don't even want to call it up and down. It's sporadic,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I guess would be the word. But I think my
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: word is, yeah, clunky, clunky. It's true. And even the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: plays that they make, it's it's it doesn't even leave
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you feeling like, well, there it was. It's gotten to
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the point where like a pretty routine play like the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: one I described to John H. Smith, the play where
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the snap happens backfoot timing bang on the cut, catches it,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: turns and makes makes a play and you're like, oh,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: that's a Patriots play. Yeah, me and Andy used to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: call them Patriots plays. That's a Patriots. But that's the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: way it looks, you know, when the pots, that's the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: way it looks. Yeah. They've had him so infrequently in
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: eight days that I can sort of remember him, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that was one of them. Yeah, And that's the hard
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: part with with Mac and you know, hoping that he
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: makes a jump this year, and he just he doesn't
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: seem to be seeing it right now. And I guess
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: my my concern is just you've only got a I mean,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: as you said, a handful of practices left. I mean,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: of course they're going to continue to work on things
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: after we're kicked out and no longer able to view it,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: but you just I don't want to see they're wasting. Sure,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: it looks bad, so he can surprise every right, everyone's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: expected a terrible, terrible offense. But I mean, unfortunately, you
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: look at we're gonna get you know, I don't know
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen on Sunday, but we're gonna get two
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: next week, we'll get a couple of joint practices, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I think certainly those will be telling against another defense
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: who you know, maybe isn't quite sure what they're gonna do,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: isn't really expecting it. I mean, you know, but we
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: got into a conversation about about the preseason, and you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I said the question of is it possible that we
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: get into the preseason? Of course the preseason, but you
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: know that the offense looks okay, I definitely defense is
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you know, but I know that that I definitely think
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that seen happen a lot. Yeah, I mean, I know
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it's fools gold in preseason. There's no scheming. You're just
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: kind of playing. You're trying to get a look at guys.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not even playing the starters. So well, get yeah,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you get a matchup. You know, You're like, but at
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: this point, I'll take it, Paul, I'll take it just
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: because they haven't seen you're asking me what I'd rather
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: have them go out and score thirty points in the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: first half of a preseason game. Will continue to do this.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I'll take the thirty points and a half, and I'll
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: temper everyone's enthusiasm while I'm doing it. But I'd rather
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: do that than say, my god, they can't even move
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the ball when the third string guy from Sony's car
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: watches covering them exactly. And that's and that's where it's.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: You get into seven on seven and you're like, all right,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it's not bad out there. Like about seven on seven,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: they look competent, as in any NFL offense should look,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: regardless of changing schemes or coaches or anything. You're in
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: seven on seven, you know you should be able to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: complete passes and move the ball. But at this point,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that's what I'll take, even if it's fools gold of
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: a preseason performance against nobody's with back just to at
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: least show that they can execute. And I think that's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: what's you know, you said clunky, it's just not executing.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And so one thing I'll say, like, you know, for
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the most part, when you're practicing in training camp, you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: know it's DeVante Parker, Nelson Agholod, Jakobe Myers, Kendrick Boorne
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: going against you know, Jalen Mills, and you know Terrence
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Mitchell and Malcolm Butler and Jonathan Jones, and you know
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: with the you know, a good group of safeties on
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the back end, And I'm not saying that it's Dion
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Sanders against Jerry Rice, but you're starting caliber NFL player
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: against starting caliber NFL player, and right now, the defense
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: is winning most of those battles. If you get to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to preseason games and maybe you know the Terrence Mitchell's,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler's and Jalen mills Is aren't playing for the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, and you're facing you know, Brad Hawkins, who's
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the guy they just signed right right in? Jalen Elliot?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Is that it does? I get those rights enough, not
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Jalen Elliott. Oh this Jelen Elliot, you got it even
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I forgot it. Disrespected me? I did? I did. That's socially,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: how much I know who's that? Hey, Matt disrespected me
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit? It just a little bit. No, that
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. So like, if you're going again, let's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: just say for and I have no idea what Caroline
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: is gonna do. I don't know what Matt rule plans
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: on doing in the in the preseason, let's just say
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: he's not going to play his front line cornerbacks and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: he's gonna play backups. You know, they had their first
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: round pick last year. The kid from South Carolina that
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: went down with the torn ACL I don't know if
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: he's going to play in the preseason, right, what's his name? Horn? Yes,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: jac Horn? Yes, See he liked him. See we like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: we liked him. So maybe maybe he doesn't get any time.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And you're playing against some guy that's not even gonna
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: be in the league in two weeks and you still
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: can't get any separation, Well, then it's then it's then
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it's the fans will get to see what all the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: reports coming out of training camp actually look like. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that there are fans out there
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: who think that, you know, the media, that we're you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: blowing getting all hyped up about this and you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty consistent. And you know, we all
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: we usually are our own little pod. Other reporters are
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: kind of spread out. I mean, you're getting the same information. So,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is what it's been here
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: through the first week and however many two days. So
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: let's go to the phone's real quick though. Eldred, North Carolina. Eldred,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You're on what's up, hey, felloks, how y'all doing today?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: All right? So it's kind of like it's been frustrating.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: It's been a frustrating few days of watching offensive football,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie told. Yeah, definitely wonder but
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I don't pick out a question. You say it's sporadic, now, okay,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: don't you think that might be previews of coming to factions?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And she ain't got a real old sea. Yeah, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: don't know what. I wish I knew, I wish I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: knew for sure what the problem is. Like, is it
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: because they don't have an offensive coordinator or a a play color?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Is it because Max's not seeing the field right? Is
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it because the receivers aren't getting open? Is it because
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the offensive line's not giving them any time? Which I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: think has been a problem when they've been the three
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: days they've been in pads, I think the defensive line
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: has spent a lot of time in the backfield. Like,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the specific problem is, but when
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it looks like this, most likely what the answer is
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: is bill answer from yesterday? Everything, Yeah, yeah, everything. Well,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering because, uh, power, I finally got that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Mean what you said a couple of weeks ago when
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I called you said we canna be at the Carolina
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: statement by yourself. For some reason, I thought New England
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: was coming here. I remember you're saying you were going
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to the practice and where You're like, are you coming?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Are you coming here? I wished I could, but I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was hoping he was coming here, and I was gonna
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: do that. But like I said, my concern is that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And I saw this little thing on about Thordon from
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Mac the Thorton a couple of times, and I liked that,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: But that listening to y'all man, I'm just wondering. I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: just got my hopes up and I'm just wondering. I mean, Aldred,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna like Thorton. I mean, I hope
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: he gets action and gets to play, and you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: they they were able to get him his feet wet.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's really some promise there
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: based on what I've been, you know, pleasantly surprised with
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: his ability. And I thought today he you know, wasn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: anything special, but he made a catch in eleven on
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: eleven today. I don't chart this stuff. I don't I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: don't like I apologize ahead of time. I don't chart
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: every single play of every single practice. I don't think
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: that's really worth the time it's spent to do that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: But that's the first time I can recall him making
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a catching in competitive eleven on eleven and it's just progressing, right, Yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, one question this day, resign Harris, which
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you think that means for the risk of the backfield
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: veteran move? Damien Harris, Oh, I know, I mean, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I'd be really surprised. I feel like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they just kind of see those guys as temp employees
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and they roll them and you know, like they've got
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a good depth. The move we saw up here strong
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: actually starts to get involved a little bit. Today. We've
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: seen Harris, Kevin Harris involved a bunch time. Montgomery Is
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: has been involved a bunch. Stevenson's been a little bit,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I think because I haven't seen him do much the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: last couple of days of practice, but it's hard been
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: out there in full uniform, taking part in the drills
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: before practice, but I don't remember the last carry he got,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: so I can. I mean, if they resigned Harris, it
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: would I mean, Damian Harrison would say to me that
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: maybe they're not as as high on these other guys
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that they've gotten. But it's hard to say that already
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: because you haven't. You just sa up here strong today
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: for the first time. So based on the fact that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: they drafted to what two running backs, uh, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: this year, my guess is that they'll they'll probably allow
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Harris to you know, explore the market. Thanks Elder. Let's
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: let's go over to Matt in Ohio. Matt, you're on
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, guys, how are you doing pretty
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: good other than having to watch good Uh? Paul, I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: read your I read your article last week about Johnny Smith,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: which is actually nice to nice to hear that he's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: getting more involved in the offense. Um, but I haven't heard.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't hearn anything about Hunter Henry. What
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: is he doing if he if he heard or no,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: He's fine, he's been he's been out there every day.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: He's fun. Yep, he's okay, Okay, he looks like Hunter Henry. Yeah,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: he's he's been fine. Uh. You know, there's there's sort
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of a you know, just some of the scuttle butt
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in the in the media areas good one scuttle good
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: one that that doesn't throw me back to like nineteen
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: sixty two. I mean, you could probably get back to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds with the scuttle butt. UM. A lot
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of people sort of think that it's been a little
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: bit better when the two tight ends have been on
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the field together, when it's been Henry and Smith, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I know that there was some questions asked today. I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: haven't really seen that. I haven't really noticed any significant
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: spike in production when one lineup is in over another.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: But it's not really my thing. I don't, I don't.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I don't keep track of that a lot. But I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: think Henry's been fine. He talked after practice today and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: just talked about continue know that all the camp cliches,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: stacking days, working to get better. You know, we have
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a you know, you know it's a progression. Blah blah
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But yeah, nothing to worry about. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say Matt with with Hunter Henry. I think I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: think he's looked just like he did last year. Yeah, thanks,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Matt appreciated. Uh let's let's get one more before uh
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: we move on speed and Fresno. He spee, what's going on?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks again for like as usual, the excellent
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: coverage last week. It was really good. And also thanks
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: for not, you know, playing the role of chicken little
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and the tempering. Your expressions are concern about the offense,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but the fact that they're not that far along in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the process. I mean, there's still more time. At the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: same time, I have a sneaking concern, like we've been
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: talking about how bad the defense looked towards the end
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of last year, and it's gotta be more or less
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the same defense, maybe even younger, less experience. Um So
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the fact that the offense is struggling against that defense,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: isn't that even worse? Well, I mean I gotta give
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: credit to bar More, to Jude On even a little
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: bit to godshall believe it or not. I mean, I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: think those guys have been winning their matchups, and I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: think that's the that's the thing about this defense is
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: when guys are winning their one on one matchups that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know, it's tough. And especially if the defense or
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the offensive line is trying to learn a new blocking
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: scheme and you know, move more on the move and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you know so, and also how much does the defense
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: know what they're trying to do? So, I mean, I
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I think your point is taken. But I've been kind
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: of impressed with the defense. And it's hard to say
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: because the offense hasn't really done anything, and it's hard
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to say, I really want to see the defense against
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Carolina against the Giants and really see what they look like. Um,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: because it's training camp and it's like all the disclaimers
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about. It's like as much you don't
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: want to kill the offense and you don't want to
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: like make the defense out to be the eighty five Bears,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's just kind of how it's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: looked in this particular start to training camp. I guess
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: is that your thought, Paul, that maybe, um, the defense
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: is looking decent relative to expectations compared to the end
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the last year. Um, yeah, I don't. I don't really
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have much feel for how the defense has looked. I haven't,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I think, and I think I may made this comment
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday. I would say consistently the defensive front has
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: controlled the offensive front. Um, So that's that's looked better.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: If if you want to say, like, well, they Patriots
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: having a hard time stop in the run, maybe the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: run defense is improved. Maybe that's something that can can
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: carry over based on what we've seen. Um, but yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I don't have much faith in the personnel now. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: need to see them play against Josh Allen and you
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: know Tah and Tyree Hill and I mean all the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: challenges that are coming up. It's just it's hard to
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: get overly pumped when it's it's just kind of been
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the new offense that that's just been so clunky. Yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: put it. Maybe Fred that's the game. I mean, he
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: made a play today and like eleven on eleven when
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: he blew up the guard. Um, I think, yeah, I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: think he blew right by Cole Strange and he uh
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: he ended up making a tackle on a running play
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: which you really see tackles um in training camp. And
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: he he ended up dumping Damien Harris after a probably
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: for like a two yard loss. All right, all right, Gonch,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: thanks a good one. Thanks all right, Well, let's welcome
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: in Alex. Alex now Patrian move Oh yeah, absolutely. She
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: walks in with a Chick fil a sandwich bag? Was
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that the media meal? We're back to chick fil A? Yeah,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it's just Chick fil a sandwiches, no fries or anything, cookies,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I think, but I heard Stacy whisper to one of
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the pr oh In turns, Hey the chick fil as here.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I was finishing up an interview with Christian right up. So,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: so what's going on for you today, Alex? You were?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I seemed like there was a lot going
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: on down there on the field, Like too much going
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: out on the field. We had a fourteen year old
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: little kid asking Bill questions and like really really rolled
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: out the red carpet for this kid. I don't know
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: quite who he is. Tamara's on that story, but um,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I guess he got a nice tour of the stadium.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I guess mister Kraft was parading him around. He got
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a helicopter ride. It seemed like the helicopter took off
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: right after No, I think he missed that that ride.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: But um, he got to do stuff with Kendrick. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: think he was interviewing everyone today. We had a birthday.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I had to personally wait for an interview with David
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Andrews that was scheduled ahead of time so this kid
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: could talk to him. Well, I mean, God, bless him.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: You got you got he got the like inaugurable ceremonial
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: first question of the Belichick press conference. Everyone's like, oh,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: this is this is great. Then he asked another question
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: like Okay, well we're running late here, buddy, we got
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to keep You can tell Bill's face like he was
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: smiling for way too long. It's like might be his muscles,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're out of shape for the amount of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: time he had to hold it for. Uh. Kendrick Bourne
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: as well. Jack Bourne had a birthday. His wife brought
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: some balloons that all the kids just instantly let them
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: go the second they were holding them out of the field,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: so and then they got sucked up by the helicopter.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Imagine tragedy today Kendrick Bourne's balloon's final destination. That would
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: be very but it was. It was quite funny to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: just see the KB eighty four just floating away. I
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: hope someone got a picture of that. That's a video
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that seems pretty good. Anything on the football field and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the practice today that that jumped out to you as
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: you were kind of watching things down there. Yeah, you
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: guys are kind of touching a little on I think
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the d line has definitely pleasantly surprised me. God Chaw
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: included for sure, Barmore looks fantastic in terms of like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the secondary and stuff, though, I mean Jalen Mills I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: think said it himself at the end of practice. At
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: this point, they kind of know what's getting thrown at them,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: so it's easier for them to go out and light
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: it up. So I don't know, I'm just ready for
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Caroline to come in and see how they actually look
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: against other people that aren't Patriots. Yeah. Yeah, me too.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I mean that was some of the most fun practices
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: last year with the Giants. I think that breaks up
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the monotony a little bit. And Philly, it's just it's
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: it's a new challenge for you. I mean, we know
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the Giants, well, they're not practicing its Giants, but I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: mean a quarterback competition between you know, between Darnold and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield that you know that they're going to be
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: coming out trying to execute and to give these guys
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete. So, I mean, I think it's
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's just a good thing for the defense to face
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: guys that, you know, quarterbacks who are coming in here
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: really trying to put the effort in and you know
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: we'll have those two practice is that next week, I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: move we can get in a little bit later about
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you know what we might be looking because it seems
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: like you're going to have a two day break potentially
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: with Saturday and Sunday off, Maybe maybe they think about
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: reevaluating some things. M I don't want to say, oh
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the whole we got to blow up these changes we're doing,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: but also just some some other players that have been,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you know, having having good practices that maybe deserve a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: little bit more of a shot. You know, anybody Paul
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to you of those guys that you think you'd like
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to see a little bit more of involved with those
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: top high end reps, Well, I mean Taekwon Thornton would
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: definitely be a guy that I want to see continuing
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to work with frontline players U in the secondary. I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of options there. I think you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: talk about like Bledsoe, we talked about him early in camp.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: You know, can he sort of you know, I think
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: as the veterans have come back, you know, he hasn't
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: gotten as many reps as you know he was prior
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to that. Jonathan Jones has come back and sort of
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: sort of moved guys around a little. You haven't seen
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: as much Sean Wade as you had been with you know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the slots. So you know, there's some of those young
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: guys that I'm I'm a little bit you know, curious about.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But really, when when you start practicing against another team,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I want to see the you know, the front line
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: guys going against front line guys for the other team.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So you make a great point about Darnold and Mayfield.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: That should give the Patriots secondary a chance to see
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: two NFL guys. Now, you could say they both stink,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and you probably wouldn't be wrong, but there are two
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: NFL guys who have started several games. It's better to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: go against those guys than some rookie sixth round pick
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: who's trying to learn how to play and he's just
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: trying to get the playoff, whereas Mayfield. You know, it's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: kind of like when you when you played the Jets
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and you ended up getting
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: stuck in that game, and when Joe Flacco just ends
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: up playing and he'll light you up because he's an
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: NFL player, he knows how to play. And you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: if you if you if you you know you miss
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: your coverage or whatever he's gonna You know, Flacco had
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: some moments last year in Philly. You remember at practice,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: want to go into the bathroom, you know, in front
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of us, not well to the bathroom, that was situation,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: situated us directly next to the port. That didn't come
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: out properly. Hey, Joe, let's going on. It's going quite
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the time. You saw him after the AFC Championship game,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: we talked about a Delaware's Delaware visit against Hey, congratulations,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: my son's first every game, Joe Flacco. Let's uh, let's
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: jump over to the phones and uh say hello to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: William from Philadelphia? What's up Williams? Will him and Phillim
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Willham and Philam? Sorry, get your name right? What's going on?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: And ladies, that's how y'all doing good? Are you okay?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I'm good. Just listening to Mike talk about how it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: squash street and just watching hat offense trying to put
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: it together whennot and that's my reason for Cam and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: so what is um? At one point when do you
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: just say that ain't Brooke watching you? Might I just
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: go back to the old offense. Mac macus frustrated he's
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: having a hard time. I guess whatever, and or if
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: his receivers not being what they need to be at
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: or or just run and trying to run this couchan
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: in hand play and whatnot. So why not just go
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: back to the old just go ben to it old way.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't understand, you know what I mean?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Who then implements the old offense? Though? What if it's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: a thing where like Josh McDaniels took all the keys
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to the castle with him and no one really knows
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: what's going on. That's part of it, And what message
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: does this send to the team too, Like, hey, guys,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I know we all came into training, can't think of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. But it's not working,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna I also wanted our position. I also
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: wonder how much of the struggles are because of the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: system or just because you know, they're just not executing.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's what Mac was saying, was like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you know, it's our job to execute and we're not executing.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: So he was putting it it sounded like from his
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: press conference on them not executing it, Yeah, and less
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: one as he should. He put it on the coaches. Yeah,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: we got a problem, right, So just two more questions
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and that's so, so what so when is the next
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: practice for him? Tomorrow night? But it's going to be
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: in the stadium, and it seems like it's going to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: be more about the game day operations, so like this
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: is what tunnel we come out, this is where we
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: stand there in the national anthem during halftime, we go here,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: like all those kind of things. So it's it's not
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: even really a practice as much as it is like
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: kind of a dry run of a game day. I think,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, there might be some you know, drills. I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: sure they'll do a little bit of stuff, but um,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I think last year it was it was extremely uneventful.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not really expecting to learn anything
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night. And that's what you're kind of looking at
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: is like you're gonna have to sit on this practice
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: for the next three days before they get back out
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: there on Monday and see what changes they make. Right, okay, um,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and I had another one. I had two more, keep
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: them coming, but you can't just always have two more
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: at one point. You gotta be at the last one.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go okay um um, So when when would they
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I guess after preseason done, you'll know what his jersey
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: number will be, because I just want to support him
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and get his jersey. I think when the preseason games come, yeah,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: that they yeah, they won't be on the preseason field
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: wearing number fifty one for a wide receiver. So next
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: week I would say they we'll start to see the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: new numbers. Keep an eye out for Patriots Twitter. I'm
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: sure we'll have an announcement or some type of graphics,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: absolute graphics, a hype video that one they left in
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the budget. If you guys want me to take care
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of that one. I'm a good hype man for this.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Flora's gonna be number good, good number talk, Thanks Willie,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: appreciate it right now? Uh? That is that is good?
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: That we'll see, we'll see I mean I think you know.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, Paul, you have been you have to admit
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you've been bumped by number fifty three returning punts. Uh right, No,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I think he I said he is it just the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: number with Jones? What does he look like? Stouter like?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: He's a small like Marcus Jones is a little square.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: He's like a little tangle and he looks like a
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: rectangle and I think it's because he's wearing favorite right,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's gonna spike like something in
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the thirties and like, yeah, looks ten times better. Yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a nice little player. So we as you probably heard
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Tamara checked in now, Tamara looks like you saw Alex
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: had grabbed Chick fil A and then you were like,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I gotta go get that. You weren't quite did you
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: do that? Did you see that sandwich and go? That's
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: an even more veteran move. We're both walking. I was
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: co from ridiculously proud. She was coming from the field
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and we were both walking to radio at the same time.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: She saw my sandwich, and it's like my niece, my wing,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Like when you can get it free, you get it,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you go now, and like the feet writers will take
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: like two sandwiches a piece, and then by the time
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: we get up there, it's nothing guilty. That was me
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and Paul wine a Chick fil at last week and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: we both kind of have won't grab one, trying to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: be responsible, was sitting eating it. You brought me a
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: second one. I saw Mike grab another, and I had
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: already finished my first one, so I was like, all
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: right on my sandwich for the walk home. I hate,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I hate to waste food. I can't. I can't love
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: that to handle so U but to marry I grilled,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Alex didn't really griller. But what did you see today?
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: What were you up to? Well, you know, we talked
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit about our our junior reporter who was
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: here getting getting the red carpet rolled out for him.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Was that your primary primary? Yeah? Yeah, I felt like
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: my assignment today was our junior reporter, not our NBC's
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: junior reporter. Um. Just following him around, and it was
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: kind of like looking at younger me, but obviously way
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: younger me, because he's like thirteen or fourteen, um, and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: just you know, picking his brain you've been seeing you
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: know what he saw I practice? So that was pretty interesting.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: And then also do you think the offense was good today? Umballs? Yeah, softballs, softballs.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But I was honestly impressed by him leading off in
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Bill Balichick's press conference today. I mean I find it,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I mean who I find it? Intimidate and ask that
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: guy question exactly and to get a smile, Yeah, a
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: few smiles. It was great. What anything stick out to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you today on the field? Catch your eye guys plays,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: what what do you think impression coming off here? I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: just I don't I don't know how to Like I
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: feel like when we were when I heard you talking
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: as I walked in, and you were like, you know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: we have to be patient with the offense, and I'm
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: installing it. I'm thinking about when you take a puzzle
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: out of a box, especially like a big puzzle, like
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: three hundred piece puzzle, and it's like you obviously see
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: what the end goal is going to be or should be,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: but the process of getting all those pieces put together
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: it takes time. I think that's a great analogy, and
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that's like, I guess where my hope is residing is
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that maybe they're putting together this little section and this
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: little section and this little section, and that it's something
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: right and then at some point it's all going to
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: kind of come together and make sense. Yeah, where it's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like you know, you might have you might do a section.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Then you know, maybe your sibling might come and do
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a section. Joe Judge comes over as a secon map,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: patricis just doing a section. Yeah, oh god, or or
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: or as Bill Belichick said, I think it was yesterday,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you know, we're installing this piece of the offense today,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: than this piece of the offense tomorrow, this piece the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: next day, and then in the preseason game we'll see
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't, or what needs to be
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: tweaked and what doesn't. So I guess just the growing
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and the putting, the installation processes, it's not that great.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Let's jump over. We got a bunch of emails, people
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: writing in. Of course, I hope we're not making anyone,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you know, jump off the bridge about this situation, because
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I mean we are just a week and a day
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: in so far, very early. No jumping off bridges. People
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: love you, Yeah, Joey. Joey writes, and he just said,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: for the past week, I've been hearing. How all I've
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: been hearing is how bad the offense is. Do you
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: guys feel they're trying too hard to find their identity
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and the coaches are forcing the Patriots to do something
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that's not the Patriot way. I think the problem is
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: that you have a great head coach with a defensive mind,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia with a defensive mind, and Joe Judge with
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: really no experiences QB coach offensive coach. It's like the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: blind leading the blind. In my opinion, why not get
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: an OC outside of Foxborough if any they want to
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: jump on that one. I don't think that's I mean,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I've been very critical of the plan, Like, I don't
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: think the plan makes a lot of sense. I just
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: don't think that based on what I've watched, the plan
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: is the problem right now. I think it could be.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: But when you're scripting plays and you know you're I mean,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you go into every practice knowing what you're gonna do,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Like it's not a secret as to what they're gonna do.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: And I do think that Tamari's point that I think
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Jalen Mills said about, you know, like the defense is
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: kind of squatting on some routes at this point too.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: They kind of know what's coming to when it's it's hard.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: It's human nature. You're supposed to play it straight, but
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you know what's coming at some point too. So I
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: think that's part of the trouble getting open. But when
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you go into a practice knowing what you're gonna do,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: it's not a bad plan. It's not like, oh, we
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that at practice today, We should have
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: done this at practice day. You go into a game
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and you have a bad game plan. That's on you know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: that's on the coaching, But in practice, you're trying to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: run your base plays. They're having a hard time running
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: plays right now. I don't think it's because of a
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: new system, And I don't think it's because you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge and Mapatrish, you know, gifted offensive minds. Yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and the stuff with like at the line of scrimmage,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that's that's very simple stuff. And the old line is
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: seems like they're really having a hard time and that's
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: just one on one. Yeah, yeah, just losing losing the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: physical the blue shirted lineman to beating the white shirted linement.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I think this is like a prime example of when
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: you know, you hear Bill Belichick and the players say
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: we're focusing on the fundamentals, It's like, yeah, they have
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to get these fundamentals together in order for these plays
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to be able to be executed correctly. And I think
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: like that's the major issue right now, is the musical
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: chairs and the trenches. Yeah, it's it's a struggle right now.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: It is. Well, let's let's flop over to the defensive
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. Matt and Devin right, Devin uk,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I should say rights in uh, asking about the safeties,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: do you think they'll be game game plan dependent? I mean,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of course they always are, but as in, if they're
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: playing a run team like Tennessee, it might be more
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Dugger and full Phillips. If more past heavy like Kansas City,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: maybe sorry, I said Dugger and Peppers. If more past
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: heavy like Kansas City, more mccordy and Phillips. I wonder
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: if they're trying to offset the lack of defensive talent
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: by being more game plan oriented. I don't really think
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: they can get more game plan oriented, but I kind
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: of like how you're thinking. And it was something I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: wrote about a couple days ago and asked Bill Belichick
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: about you know, Patrick Chung was here at practice early on,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, back in the day you had one
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: kind of in the box safety like that, and now
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: you've got kind of four, I mean four of these
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: guys if you want to include bledsoe of guys, and
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: even Bill said, we'll try to figure out a way
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to get them all. I mean, I kind of I
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: kind of like you know what Matt is saying here
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: of maybe that could be a potential way of you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: some weeks it's a little bit more of this guy game,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and I think we've seen that kind of across the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: board with you know, other certain game plan elements of
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the team. So I don't know we'll see I mean,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I haven't really seen the safeties pop as much. You know,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Peppers has been out there, wasn't out there yesterday. I
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: got back out there today. They haven't really been super involved,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and it's it's I wouldn't say I've seen like seeing
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Dugger get picked on a little bit, but otherwise I
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: don't know that it's hard to tell with those guys.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I think the defensive front has been the one that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: have kind of carried things. Any of the safeties that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: have stood out to you guys with like Bledsoe or
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: so those first few days. Even Sean Wade was decent
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: when he was getting reps, but now that he's not,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't I wasn't able to really
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: watch too much of today though with everything going on
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, it was busy. Dexter and Stana
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Rosa writing in and let's let's all get on the
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Christian Barmore hype train because I think we need some
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: some more positive energy here. My never running positive outlook
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: on the Patriots has me drooling over Christian Barmore. It
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: got me thinking if he ends up being in the
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: running for defensive MVP, it will not only be the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: great thing for the Patriots, it will also be an
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: incredible gift for radio as a whole. His interviews are
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: so endearing and funny in a great way. I love
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: how fast he talks, how he loved how it seems
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: to be just a young rock kid who realized he
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: can dominate the game. It's refreshing, and I cannot get
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: enough of Barmore rooting for an MVP type season for
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: the kid. Thank you all. I second that the press
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: conference yesterday. I literally went to Mike's desk and I
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: was like, did you hear what he said when he asked, like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: you know, how does it feel picking on your teammates,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're doing one on once? And he
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: was like, well, he laughed first, and then he said
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: everyone's feeling pain. And I was like, that was a
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: nice way to put it. Like he's not trying to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: make it like his teammates feel his wrath or pain,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: but you know what they're all feeling it. I just
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: got to chat with him and his mom. I interviewed
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: him for the twenty Questions today and I was cracking up.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Every day when I do those, I'm like, oh, this
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: one's my favorite one. This one's my favorite one. But
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I thought Nelson Aguilar yesterday was gonna be hard to beat.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: But Barmore today and his mother, like interjecting after all
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: of his answers was just hilarious, like I feel like
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: a comedy troupe, was like, and I'm just envisioning my
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: mother doing that to me. But I asked him, I
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: haven't written this yet, but sneak preview for our listeners.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I asked him, what's something that people are like really
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: surprised to learn about you? And he was talking about
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: his dance moves and how well he can dance, and
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: his mom is in the background cracking up like this child, like,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: oh my god. She I asked him about like Philly
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: cheese steaks because he's a Philly guy, and she answers
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: for him, like you better not say this place, you
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: better say that. She was coming up to me after.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Don't let anyone tell you anything different. This is the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: place you're going or what I was like, I love
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you too. You need a show. Wait we needed that
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: super commercials those Oh right, that's I mean, if he
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: gets a defensive MVP, maybe I'll be well in the running.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I need you, I need you to love phill Us
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: in on what that place is because we could have
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: used that last year when we were in Philly, Hilly.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I know we kind of had a bad was that
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: we had an average average, We kind of were, we
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: were weaving and through all the Philadelphia we saw a spot.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I think we just like it was okay, but I
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: think Christian Barma Boogie Cheese Steaks. We didn't know it
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: was bougie and it was so big. We need authentic,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: we need we need next time. It was big, it
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: was very filling. It will say that I was. I
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: didn't I couldn't finish it. That's a god my story
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: this evening to see what else and Barma recommends. I think, um,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: when I was listening to you guys, maybe like four
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: days ago, someone said like, what's your way too early?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Like Pro Bowl pick? Yeah? I think he be it.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, and it's just every every day.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought today wasn't. He wasn't quite as
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: crazy dominant some of the I was wondering if maybe
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: some of the offensive lineman hurd him. Yes, I thought
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I thought he was neutral. I thought it when you
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: m stone walled him a couple of times, and I
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: thought James Vern's had a good rep against him, kind
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: of pushed him wide. Yeah, around the back of the quarterback,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: which is the last place you want to be. But
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: that's the other thing too with him is um Sometimes,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: especially the interior guys and those one on one drills,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: that's not always great. Um. You know, for tough interior guys,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the one on one it's it's not quite the same.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Sometimes those guys just want to collapse the pocket. You know,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: they're not necessarily looking to beat you know, beaten with
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: a quick you know, swim mover. And but what I mean,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I will say he's been he's just he's he's a
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: ball of energy and he's almost always a handful for
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: everybody who's got to block him. And as as the
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: email laid out, I mean, it's just a lot of
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: fun to listen to. Uh, let's jump, We're gonna go
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: back to back. North Carolina calls let's let's start a
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: break here guy. Oh you know, let's let's spang. He's
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: two out? All right, all right, I know your your pizzas,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: look at you right in the face, but let's go
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to talk. I'm the one who has pizza. Pizza. Hey, Todd,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Just driving getting a little frustrated with
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: traffic and you know senior moments. So so did you
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: say senior moments? How old are you? Todd? Yeah, well,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I'm a senior in high school. After watching the practice
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: so far, is there anybody that you think might be
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a surprise cut? I know that early on, before we
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: really got into this, we actually kind of said that,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe Myers, because there's a lot of depth
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in the in the receiving corps and stuff like that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: But who would be your surprise cut right now? After
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: watching a bit of it? Maybe when or when you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: or her on, like, who do you think could be
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: a surprise cut going into the season? I would say
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: it's tough to tell. I mean you don't really see
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: like a guy that you're really hyped about that hasn't
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: begun a ton of action. But I think you mentioned
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: on when you I think it's just you know, based
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: on what they're doing and if they continue to try
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to run this team where you need athletic offensive linemen.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to see him getting cut. He
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: ain't getting cut, but you know, I could see him
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: getting pushed by by Hambone a little bit. I mean
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: he could, um, but I don't see him getting cut.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: It's hard like that. The whole surprise cut thing is
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: so hard. Jacoby Myers is not getting cut. I mean,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: if he's not part of the team this year, he's
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: gonna get traded. They're not just gonna cut a guy
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: um with that ability. Um, like a surprise cut. I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: mean maybe Cameron mcron Not that that's a surprise really,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: but it's everybody's been kind of hyping him up, and
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I says, the guy who's not guys those guys don't
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: make any money either, So like, what's the point. I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's hard to really pinpoint one. I'm
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: gonna go with Jonathan Jones, but I don't think he's
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: getting cut either. I'm just saying, you know, it's a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: guy they have, they have well, they have a little
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: they have a little depth, like sort of those smallish
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: corners slash safety's like Miles Bryant, you know, Miles Bryant, Like,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, do they think anything of Josh Bledsoe,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Sean Wade Like these guys, they're gonna have these other
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones in the mix too, kind of similar like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Jack Jones too. You know, if you have these smaller
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: corners that can play inside and maybe play some safety,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: maybe you don't need a guy that's making the money
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: that Jonathan Jones. I don't think he's gonna get cut.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: That's why it would be a surprise. Thanks appreciated. H
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Sam. Sam. We're getting angry here, so
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: so make it a good one. I certainly am. You
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: see you guys there. Yeah, okay, Um, first off, I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: want to say I agree with alec one. Christian Balbmore
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: is doing a hurly Pro Bowl to legs. Oh wait,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: that was I said that? Oh Tamara, I'm sorry I
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: started to show late because I'm at work. It's okay,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I just heard a big I'm sorry, but anyway, Um,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask the offense is struggling, it's
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: so bad in the preseason. Could he see that the
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: defense is better than we throw or or are they
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: just bad? I mean, I'll jump on this one and
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: thanks Sam, appreciate it. Uh. You know, I have to
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the defense some credit, but I'm not sure I can
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: give them like overwhelming credit to you know, at this point,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: until I see them go out against other offenses, especially
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you know, how do they do against like we mentioned
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: the Panthers in a couple of weeks. I think that'll
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more telling. But I have to
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: say I'm impressed, and I think you have to be
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: excited anytime there are players on the defensive front that
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: are dominating. And for me, that's you know, I think
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: a big key of the defense and what was missing
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: last year. So hopefully they can keep it rolling. But
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break right now, Pay some bills,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: eat some food, and I will be back in just
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a few minutes. Want to get into the game. Get
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: coached up at Dean College, equipped with exclusive academic partnerships
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: featuring the Patriots, Revolution, Providence Bruins, Summer Baseball, and more.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Our classrooms who are set up for success by learning
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: directly from the pros. Dean College has programs and communications,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: sports management, business and marketing, with unprecedented hands on experiences.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Our students take what they learn in the classroom in
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: put it right to work in the marketplace. At Dean College,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: our students don't just play games, we run them. Visit
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: us Dean dot edu. There's no season better than football season,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: and there's no better place to get in on all
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: of the action than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: sports partner of the New England Patriots. To add to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the thrill, DraftKings has millions of dollars in prizes upper
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: grabs every week, so head to the app now and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: check it out if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: football is easy to play. Just pick nine players, stay
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: under the salary cap, and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and so much more. There's no better way to put
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: your football knowledge to the test than to compete for
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: a shot at one million dollars in total prizes. Download
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the DraftKings app now and use promo code pats to
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: get a shot at millions of dollars in total prizes
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: every week. That's promo code pats to get a shot
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: at millions of dollars in total prizes every week. Only
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: ad Draft Kings eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot Com
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: for details. In sports, if you think joy only happens
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: after you win, think again. Look at the world's most
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: successful athletes like Serena Williams, Brooks Koepka, and Alex Morgan.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: They don't spend all that day's grinding away. They take
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: time to enjoy themselves, like getting together with friends over
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Michelobe Ultra, because they know that happiness is the key
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: to win it, and that joy is the whole game,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: not just the endgame. Michelobe Ultra ninety five calories, two
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: point six grams of cars. It's only worth it if
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you enjoy it and you're responsibly a B Michelob Ultra
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Light Bear, Saint Louis, Missouri. How did Verizon built the
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: fastest five G in the world. We started by building
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it right with five G Ultra wide band. Then we
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: give it massive capacity and near zero lack. And it's
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: not just fast, it's twenty five times faster than today's
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: four G networks. This is five G built right from
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the network. More people rely on only on Verizon five
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: G Ultra wideband available only in parts of select cities.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Global claim based on Open Signal independent analysis twenty five
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: times analysis by OO Clubs b Test Intelligence Data Q
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: two twenty Patriot Place is the region's number one shopping, dining,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and entertainment destination. Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Olympia, Sports,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Peco and more. Enjoy dining at one of our nineteen
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: restaurants including Six String, Grilling Stage, Scorpion Bar, and Bar Louis.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: And don't forget about the entertainment. Explore your inner artist
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: at Muse pat Bar, watch a movie at Showcase Cinema Deluxe,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: or grab a controller and start gaming at helix E Sports.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: For a complete directory listing, please visit Patriot Dashplay dot com.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: The ruling on the field. We delivered jerseys, funny foam
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: fingers and everything you need for the game, but what
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: you really get is so much more FedEx delivery, game
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: day spirit. What we deliver by delivering. Some people are
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: never content with simply being good, not when they can
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: be great. But it takes a big step to get there.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: In fact, it takes a leap of faith, a belief
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: in what you're striving toward, and a willingness to make
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the commitment. Day in and day out to something bigger
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: than yourself. Putnam is proud to partner with those who
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: share their own commitment to performance excellence. This is Matt
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Laffe for Putnam Investments, a world of investing. We are
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: patriots in our standards are a little different. We don't
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: just carry the hopes of a city, but the hopes
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: of an entire region. For us, no uphill battle is
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: ever too high to climb in. Our favorite ring is
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the next one. Our job isn't done until the final
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: down is played and everyone knows we gave it our all.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: We the fans, march forward with the power to do
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: what it takes, just like we've done time and time again.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: We are the home field advantage. Bank of America is
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: proud to be the official bank of the New England
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Patriots and stand with them as they defy the odds.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Copyright twenty twenty. Bank of America Corporation. Want to get
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: into the game, Get coached up at Dean College, equipped
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: with exclusive academic partnerships featuring the Patriots, Revolution, Providence Bruins,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Summer baseball, and more. Our classrooms who are set up
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: for success by learning directly from the pros. Dean College
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: has programs in communications, sports management, business and marketing with
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: unprecedented hands on experiences. Our students take what they learn
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: in the classroom and put it right to work in
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: the marketplace. At Dean College, our students don't just play games,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: we run them. Visit us at Dean dot du. There's
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: no season better than football season, and there's no better
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: place to get in on all of the action than
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots to the thrill. DraftKings has millions of
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: dollars and prizes up for grabs every week, so head
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: to the app now and check it out if you
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy to play.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Just pick nine players, stay under the salary cap, and
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions, and so much more.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: There's no better way to put your football knowledge to
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the test than to compete for a shot at one
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: million dollars in total prizes. Download the DraftKings app now
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and use promo code pats to get a shot at
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars in total prizes every week. That's promo
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: code pats to get a shot at millions of dollars
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: in total prizes every week only at DraftKings. Eligibility restrictions apply.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: See DraftKings dot com for details. In sports, if you
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: think joy only happens after you win, think again. Look
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: at the world's most successful athletes like Serena Williams, Brooks,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Kpka and Alex Morgan. They don't spend all that day's
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: grinding away. They take time to enjoy them elves like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: getting together with friends over Michelobe Ultra, because they know
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: that happiness is the key to winning, and that joy
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: is the whole game, not just the endgame. Michelobe Ultra
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: ninety five calories, two point six grams of cars. It's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: only worth it if you enjoy it and jo're responsibly
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: a b michelob Ultra light Bear saying Louis, Missouri. How
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: did Verizon build the fastest five G in the world.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: We started by building it right with five G Ultra
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: wide band. Then we give it massive capacity and near
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: zero lag. And it's not just fast, it's twenty five
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: times faster than today's four G networks. This is five
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: G built right from the network. More people rely on
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: only on Verizon five G Ultra wide band available only
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: in parts of select cities. Global claim based on open
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: signal independent analysis twenty five times analysis by WHO Club's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: b test Intelligence state in Q two twenty twenty. Patriot
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Place is the region's number one shopping, dining, and entertainment destination.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Olympia, Sports, Petco
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: and more. Enjoy dining yet one of our nineteen strugs,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: including six String Grilling Stage, Scorpion Bar, and Bar Louis.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And don't forget about the entertainment. Explore your inner artist
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: at Muse Paint Bar, watch a movie at Showcase Cinema Deluxe,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: or grab a controller and start gaming at Hewis e Sports.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: For a complete directory listing, please visit Patriot dashplay dot com.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: The ruling on the field. We deliver Jersey's funny foam
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: fingers and everything you need for the game, but what
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: you really get is so much more FedEx delivery, game
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: day spirit. What we deliver by delivering. Some people are
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: never content with simply being good, not when they can
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: be great. But it takes a big step to get there.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: In fact, it takes a leap of faith, a belief
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: in what you're striving toward and a willingness to make
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the commitment day in and day out to something bigger
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: than yourself. Putnam is proud to partner with those who
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: share their own commitment to performance excellence. This is Matt
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Lafe for Putnam Investments, a world of investing. We are patriots,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: and our standards are a little different. We don't just
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: carry the hopes of the city, but the hopes of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: an entire region. For us, no uphill battle is ever
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: too high to climb in. Our favorite ring is the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: next one. Our job isn't done until the final down
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: is played and everyone knows we gave it our all.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: We the fans, march forward with the power to do
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: what it takes, just like we've done time and time again.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: We are the home field advantage. Bank of America is
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: proud to be the official bank of the New England
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Patriots and stand with them as they defy the odds.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Copyright twenty twenty, Bank of America Corporation, and now Great
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Moments in History. Sam's in San fran Cisco. Um, they
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: don't like it when they say Sam, Yeah, really San Frisco.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I thought they didn't like Oh, you're right, Frisco. They
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: don't like. They don't like that, they don't like Frisco.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And people in Oregon don't like when you say Oregon, no, Frisco, Frisco.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: What is what Francisco Frisco. Between this and you're analyzing bills,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: the bills thing is the tamest thing he's got going
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: right now. I won't forget you, Yeah, I told it, well,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I guess I should tell I went so back. This
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: a little side story, but back when Brady got hurt
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, I made a video and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I should probably share it with Matt. It is on YouTube.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I made a music video of sets to the tune
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: of poisons. I won't Forget You, Baby, But I made
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: an I won't Forget You Brady music video that was
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: very Yeah, you still hired them, but I was saying,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you know, if and when didn't come up on the search.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from don't ask me to sing,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: don't ask me to sing, I'll do it. I'll do
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, you can still find that video on YouTube.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: If I Won't Forget You Brady, it's a if you're
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: a poison fan, I feel like eighties eighties hair metal,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: specifically the ballots there isn't. I have a karaoke mike
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: that's hot pink, and I've been tempted to bring it
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: in because I'd be fun for content with the players,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: but I think that you need to break it out first. Well,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: did Angelie tell you that me and her we got
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: up and we did a little Miley cyrus at the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Christmas party prior to her departure. I was a duet.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: It was pretty bad. I don't I don't think I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: can reach those those upper notes. But we're back after lunch.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: It was delicious and trying to make sense to the offense.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: We got Paul's here, Alex's here, Tamaris here. We're waiting
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: on Evan, who was finishing up a peace and he'll
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: be down to share his observations. Today. We were up
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: on the side of the building to get a little
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: bit higher view of things, and unfortunately it's still kind
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: of looked the same even from that height. But we've
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: been going through that. Let's let's jump into some questions
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: though plenty here and encourage you guys. Please give us
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: a call eight five to five pats five hundred. I'd
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: love to hear from you guys. But Austin writes in
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: from North Carolina with a viewing of several practice, where
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: would yall expect for this team to end up in
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: the grand scheme of thing? Not a prediction of the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: win loss column, but are we looking about and an average,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: middling or below average team? Thanks for the coverage. Anybody
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: want to jump on that one? I mean, you don't
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: want to jump to conclusions right now, but I mean, well,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: it's hard to be excited about what you've seen on offense.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: It just hasn't been anything there yet. And maybe you
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: can talk to yourself into the defense being better right now,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: but I'd say we I'm not feeling great right now.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure things can change around and things can you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: improve the next few weeks and we'll be hey, they're
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: really starting to put it together. But I can't lie
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: right now. It's just it's you go out there every
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: day expecting to see something new, something getting strung together,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: a few plays like bang bang bang, they go down
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: the field and it's just there hasn't been any of that.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: They've made some plays here and there, but nothing together,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: nothing consistent. Yeah, average, I would say, but you're right, Mike,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: it's not based on practice as much as for me
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: on the roster, I think the personnel they have some
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: they have some quality players, but I don't know if
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: they have enough of the frontline guys, the standouts, the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: difference makers to be anything above that. You know, and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: the one guy that's the wild card and all that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: is your quarterback. Because if you have above average quarterback play,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: that can lift a lot of other guys up along
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: with it. So if he makes an enormous leap in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: year two, then that gives you potential to be better
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: than average. Well, I think, Paul, that feeds into something
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about a little bit, and that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: is over the last few years, going back to you know,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton ight even go back to the twenty nineteen offense,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels had an ability to draw things up
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: to scheme up big plays, scoring like you know, significant
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: plays when they were most desperately needed. Um, you know,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers has thrown a few touchdowns doing just that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's a That's a big question that I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: have is that, you know, if the offense continues to
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: be sporadic like it is, are they gonna be able
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: to have the if the foresight to draw those kind
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: of plays up and to get those you know, to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: catch teams sleeping and know the right. We've certainly seen
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: some trip plays. We can't share them where you're here,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: but they have been in UM. But you know, it's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: also timing. We should haved that. We had two of
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: them and they were both unsuccessful. Right there you go.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: That's as detail as we can get and all you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: need to know. But you know, it's like if they
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: can't even rely on those things this year, that relays
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: the question of like, well then we might really you know,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: be in trouble. Uh. Well, Michael brings up the Dolphins tampering.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Can we can we chat a little bit about that
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: if you feel pretty good? He's a long time listener
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: UM and he calls Patriots on Filter one of his
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: can't miss favorites. Uh. Paul is usually my favorite. He
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: is generally fair and objective and not afraid to criticize
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the Patriots one appropriate. Paul said that when appropriate, he said,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: he's uh that said. I was very disappointed with Paul's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: reaction to a caller on Tuesday, just after the late
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: afternoon break a caller brought up the Dolphins tampering and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: suggested compensation for the Patriots. Paul quickly shot down the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: idea without offering any explanation or letting the caller explain
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: his line of thought. I think in the future it
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: might be better if Paul said he disagreed and asked
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the caller to justify their position. Well, Paul, you've been
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: talking about it. I mean, why don't you. I mean,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: you can explain expand your you know, your reasoning of
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: of what where is there a precedent for a team
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: like the Patriots to receive compensation in the all And
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: they're like, tampering has gone on in sports forever, and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: there have been periodic times where teams have been gotten
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: in trouble for it and been fined and disciplined for it.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: And I think there was one um goes back a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: few years now, but Kansas City in Philadelphia. I think
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: we're involved in one in Kansas and he got in trouble.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I think I might might have that Backwich. But Jeremy
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Macklin was a receiver who was involved in it. And
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: the team that gets in trouble for doing the tampering
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: gets sanctioned, and I think Kansas City lost like a
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: third and a sixth round pick or something like that,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: or a fourth and sixth round pick, and they get
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: fined and all that. Nothing happens to the player, and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: nothing happens to the team that the player was on. It.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: It's generally you're telling me it would be unprecedented, like
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: for a player, let me let me jump in, just
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: because he offers a couple of examples, Okay that he says.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, the San Francisco forty nine
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Ers made inappropriate contact with Drew Rosenhouse, the agent for
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Bears landbacker Lance Briggs. In two thousand and eight, they
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: were penalized by Roger Goodell. Forty nine Ers lost the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight fifth round pick. In addition, the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Bears and forty nine ers swap third round picks. The
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Bears benefited by moving up five spots in the third round.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Then his second ex ample is in twenty and ten,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: the Lions defensive coordinator informer Kansas City Chiefs coach Gunther
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Cunningham made general comments about the future Chiefs free agents
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: being welcome in Detroit. Roger Goodell initially penalized the Lions
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: in the twenty eleven draft with the loss of a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: seventh round pick plus the swap of fifth round picks
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. The seventh round pick was later rescinded
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: upon appeal by the Lions. The Chiefs ended up benefiting
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: from the Tampa ring by moving up fourteen spots in
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the fifth round. Okay, So if that's what you want
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: to do, that's fun. Like to me, that's nothing. If
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: like the lock, the Dolphins lost first and third round picks,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: and the suggestion that was made on Tuesday was the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Patriot should get those. That's not the same as moving
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: up fourteen spots in the seventh round or the fifth round,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever the round happens to be. I don't really
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I'll take that research at face value. I don't recall
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: that part of it, but I'll take that face value.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I don't really think that that's getting anything. So what
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: does Tampa Bay get? Because what happened to Tampa Bay
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: was far worse than what happened to the Patriots. The
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Patriots didn't have any interest in retaining Tom Brady. Tom
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Brady didn't have any interest in staying in New England,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: and he was contacted by Miami, which is wrong. It's tampering.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: He was on the Patriots, so that's why Miami got
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: in trouble. Tampa Bay wants to keep Tom Brady, and
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady doesn't want to stay there and obviously was
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: looking to get rid of Bruce Arians and he's talking
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: to Miami. So what does Tampa Bay get. That's the thing.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: It's hard to justify giving the Patriots any compensation when
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: he didn't even choose to go straight to Miami from here.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: He went to the box so and he was a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: free agent anyway, so it's like, what do you do?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not blowing it. I'm not like
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: brushing it under the rug. He was the Patriots quarterback
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: in August of twenty nineteen. When the report said that
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Miami first made contact with Brady. That's against the rules.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Miami should be punished for that, and I think they
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: were harshly party. I think a first third and like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: one whatever million plus the other guy that got in trouble.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I don't care about, you know, a suspension for the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: owner who cares yea um, but I think that's a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: pretty significant punishment. Losing a first in the third round pick.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: But I just don't, you know, like when the coaches
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: changed and it was tampering with coaches, Like when when
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Parcels went to the Jets, the Jets were obviously contacting,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: the Jets got in you know that it was ruled
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: because the Parcels was the Patriots coach. They had to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: work out compensation. Same thing when the Patriots were contacting
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Belichick when he was with the Jets, we had to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: give them compensation. It was a trade, John Gruden going
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: from the Raiders to Tampa Bay. Like those are trades
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: and that and that's the compensation. But it's not like
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: it's not the same thing as the team losing a
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: draft pick and then having to give it to another team.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Like I just don't think that that's the same thing.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: I just think it's funny they did all this and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: they didn't even get Brady, Like they went through all
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: this trouble and all or either of them, Like Sean
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Payton retires, he's about to move to Miami. Hang out
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: on you can't even cheat, right Dolphin, Oh man, let's
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: jump let's jump over to the phones against sameir from
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Hey, sameir, what's going on? Hey guys, UM
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: really big fan of the show. UM love every guys doing.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: My number one favorite Teacrets player ever is Jimmy White.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Just love him. I love that he does everything right.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Um and if he does something wrong, he picks it
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: and never does the wrong get there is a chance,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's hard to say, you know just
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: exactly where he is physically. I did see him on
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: the lower practice field today working with Dietrich Wise a
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: little bit, and uh someone else, oh, Dalton Keene. But
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know exactly where he is physically.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: But I think there's a chance that he's not not
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: a part of the team. If he's not one hundred
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: percent and they're looking to move on, I think they
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: have some depth at that spot. Uh Ti mork Gomery's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: gotten a lot of action in the first eight days
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: of camp. I think he does a lot of those
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: kinds of things. Different style than James White, but he
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: you know, he can certain He was a wide receiver
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: initially and transformed into a running back, so he has
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: that ability. I think we've seen Kevin Harris, Damian Harrison,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: or mondre Stevens and all catch a ton of passes,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: so I think they have guys that can do that.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: And if maybe he's not fully healthy, guy is falling off.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Literally the sky is fallowing in the studio right now.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I imagine if Mack was here, like he would just
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: like fallow hand, what are we doing doing? Thanks to me?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, and let's welcome and Evan who
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: just wrote up his piece and posts it. Evan, what
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: what Sadatia day a practice any We've obviously been laying
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: it all out. We were there with you watching today,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: so but you know, why don't you feed it your way?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: I guess as you see it passing game a little
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: bit better today, I would say, I think that's the positive.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: The running game is still a work in progress. And
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: I think today we saw Devon Gage two or three
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: plays in a row just completely blow up the play
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. And as you guys are
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: just kind of talking about, on the one hand, you
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: want to say, oh wow, maybe Devon Gotsha is just
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: off to a great start and he's going to be
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: a force for the Patriots in the middle of the defense.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: It's very, very possible. But we've also seen some breakdown.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Still with the new stuff in the offense, I don't
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: want to give away too much, but the new installation
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: that the Patriots have put in there, some of the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: elements that are new to this offense, I think are
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: the main things that are still bogging it down. When
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: they got later on in the practice, spread the field,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: put Mac Jones in shotgun, put some receivers out there.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: He was able to hit some passes down the field,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: but when they got to some of that other stuff
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: that they've been doing, it seemed like, once again that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: things were disjointed and not in the right places. So
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: in some ways, I guess that's a positive that the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: old stuff or the stuff that MAXs comfortable with, seems
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: to be still clicking a little bit for them. But
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: some of the under center stuff that they've been doing,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: the zone concepts, things like that, still looks like they
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: aren't one hundred percent and confident with what they're doing.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Mac looks like he just
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't comfortable yet. I mean that I don't know that's
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: a simple way to put it, but it just, you know,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: you can say all the receivers aren't getting open, or
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't look like like last year. What I
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: was so impressed with him is that he came in
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: and he played in rhythm, you know. It just it
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: seemed like, Wow, he seemed comfortable in the pocket, the
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: ball comes out, and we saw plenty of those plays,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: and I mean, Paul said it at the top, and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I agree with him. It's just it feels like it
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: looked better last year. And of course new pieces and
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: new coaches and all those things, but it's a little
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: bit disheartening and it just doesn't seem like he's seeing
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: any not I don't say anything, he's not seeing it
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: consistently yet, No, he's not. And one of the big
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: plays that stood out to me was during an eleven
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: on eleven period, they tried to bootleg action him out
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: and he just threw the ball into the ground right
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: and he was just like, yeah, there's there's a couple
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: guys in my face, I can't really see what's down
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: the field and there's not much going on anyways, and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: just kind of gave up on the play. And I
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: think in a lot of ways we've seen that frustration
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: from Mac throughout this week of practice, especially the padded
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: practices come through where guys are just not where he
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: expects them to be. The protection has not always been great,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: and I think that that's a combination of things there
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: that has led to some frustrations for him for sure,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: which I think last year we didn't really see a
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: ton of frustration during training camp. I think as the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: season war on, obviously you have your ups and downs
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: and roller coaster ride and all that kind of stuff,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: and some of those things started to come out. But
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: you've heard about the stuff from Alabama how Nick Saman
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: had to pull him aside and say, hey, your demeanor
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: and your body language and those things matter when you're
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, and he sort of was able to rein
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: it in a little bit. We've seen a little bit
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: more frustration this summer so far from Mac. Well, let's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: just jump through a question here, because asking about Davante Parker,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: you know, is that he's a better but not much
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: better version of nikkill Harry. Is that enough to take
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: the offense to another level? I would not describe him
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: as that really insulting. Um. I wouldn't even put him
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: in to kill Harry in the same sentence. First of all, Um,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: the only thing I think they have like is they are.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: We're wearing the same phone phone number, they're we're in
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the same Jersey number. Um. I think that you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: his size and ability is great. He's definitely give given
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: the defense a hard time and picked him apart most days,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously when he is able to get the ball.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: But it's just night and day difference for me. I
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I don't, of course want
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: to pick on the keel, but it just it feels
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: like this is what an actual NFL contested receiver looks like. Yeah. Um,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not like, this isn't
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: like im Paul sustainable. This isn't like something to build
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the offense around contest. I see, I see way too
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: many similarities. It's he's without question better than Harry. Oh yeah,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Harry can't. Like you said. I like the way you
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: just said that, this is what a contested catcher NFL
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: receiver looks like. P If Parker gets a chance, he's
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: going to make the catch, whereas Harry didn't. He doesn't
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: get open a lot. He just doesn't. He Look, there's
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of similarities to me, and I worry about it. Yeah,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: he doesn't really create create separation, but he still can
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: pull him down regardless. And he seems to have some
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: good chemistry, which I think today I saw make one
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: catch where he knows when to break things off and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: turn back shoulder, and Max hit him a couple of times.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Touchdown today was just up the sideline. But you But
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: just to get back to my bigger point was that
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like contested catches is something like you
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: hang your hat on. It's hey, we're at the eighteen
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: yard line. We've got Davante Parker. Let's you know, put
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: him out isolated on one side and see if we
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: can get a mash up on a little corner and
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: take a shot. And you know, it's not like today
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: we got to get six contented catches from Parker to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: move the ball. You know. So I think he's a
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle. And maybe I was wrong, and
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: we certainly had had some some conversations about Parker. I
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: thought he'd be the best receiver by far. You know.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I think he's a useful tool. I think in the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: offense group, yeah yeah, but I think that they need
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: more and they I think they certainly need. You know,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: I just think I continue to think Kendrick Bourne is
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: what is kind of missing from the offense, and now
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: he had a nice day kind of yesterday when Pad's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: dialed back. But I don't know if does that make sense.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Like I think the biggest thing that I'm seeing is
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: when Taekwon Thornton and Nelson Ago are on the field together.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: There's so much more speed in this offense than what
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: we've seen over the last couple of years. And not
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: even just taking the top off and having them hit
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: plays down the field, but we saw today Trey Nixon
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers catching some passes underneath the defense because now
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that space is opened up because
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: those guys are pushing the safeties up the field. When
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: you roll out Parkurge, Kobe, Kendrick Bourne, the tight ends,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: that group is once again extremely slow, and at some
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: point in time, I'm sure it'll be they probably already
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: know this right that they're going to have to have
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: at least one of Agilore and Thornton, if not both
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: guys out there on the field at the same time,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: just to have that vertical threat on the outside, on
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: the inside, any sort of vertical threat to present to
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: the defense because other wise it's gonna look a lot
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: like last year. When those safeties are gonna keep crouching down,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: They're gonna hug the intermediate and short stuff, and there's
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: really gonna be nowhere to go with the football. So
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: when we were watching practice today when those three players
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: were out there, and I'm not trying to sing Trey
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Nixon's praises like he's the next West Welker, but when
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: when Nelson, Aglore, Thorton and Nixon were out there, those
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: are four four two four four four two eight. That's
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: real NFL speed on the field versus when you see
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: guys like Parker or Myers or Born. You see the difference,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: you can it's palpable that you can see the difference
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: with the pace of the offense. And I think right
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: now there they need that pace from those outside receivers especially.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: We got a goode from Anthony. It's not a game, um,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make it a game just because he's
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: he's he's asking a few names and I'm just gonna
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: throw these names out there. Maybe you guys can just
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: like hop in, give us, you know a few little
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: things of what you think. And um, so he says
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: any observations on oocha speed Rush still has that in
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: his bag. If he gets the edge, he can make plays.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: If you get a hand on him, he's done. Jewan Williams,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: I don't see. I don't see. Yes. I mean he's
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: think he's made a couple of plays, but it's the
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: same thing. He grabby. He's very grabby, Verry grabby. He's
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: a big, big guy, very hands, very hands. Uh. Ronnie Perkins,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: my guy had a tough camp well kind of like invisible. Yeah.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I haven't only seen many reps for him with frontline guys,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: no couple today. I thought he was over there. We
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: shoot on out. It felt like Jennings got bumped up
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: a spot and Perkins got bumped up. Jennings definitely bumped
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: up a spot. Yeah, you're right, but but I think
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: it illustrates the depth situation that they have there. And
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: you see, you know, the one day that that your
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: star edge guy is out, you're you know now you're
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: going to Perkins who didn't or I'm sorry, uh totally
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: blank right now Afreny Jennyferny Jennings, is you know a
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: guy who didn't play last year? Perkins didn't play last year. Um,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: That's why I think there's some people calling for for
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Trey Flowers and I wouldn't totally be against that. What
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think about Trey Flowers?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Would you be into that one? Evan? I think Trey
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: always was better as a four three end, you know
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: when they ran those four man lines that he always
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: was great in that role. He's not a stand up linebacker, right,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a hand in the dirt defensive lineman.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: But I always loved about Trey Flowers is versatility. I
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: mean they could line them up over the nose and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: pass through situations and have them get after the quarterback.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm all forward. I think he fits this scheme
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: like a glove, But I don't know if that They're
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: gonna have to be an even front team for him
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: to be a full time player. YEP. Another one here
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: from Let's see V in Pittsburgh. Based on what you're
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: observing day to day, is it looking more like a
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: a complete transition to a new wide zone offensive scheme,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: a trans a streamline hybrid scheme with elements borrowed from
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: both EP and w Z offense. I'm not sure wide
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: zone I guess or primarily and the old EP scheme
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: with some elements of w Z. I'll let you jump
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: on that one is hard purchase. Oh cool, got you?
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: That will be my guest YEP. I don't spec, mister,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I don't do the film. He's like, I didn't tell
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: you I could break it down, all right, put it this.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't tell you I could pretend to break it down.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I just know the terminology and I throw it out
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: there when I need to. I appreciate one. I appreciate
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: it through me. I mean I know it is. It
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: threw me for a loop though with the that's the offense. Yeah,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: that was the old office, And I do think it's
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: going to continue, Evan, you can weigh in here. I
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be a hybrid. I think Bill
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: kind of said it yesterday. Yeah, when he talked about this.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: These are the runs we're doing. Now we're gonna get
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: to some gap runs down the road again. I'm just
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: listening to the terminology. Don't ask me what the difference
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: like that that that that's Evans. Don't ask me that.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing that stands out to me with what
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: they're doing is okay, I fully one hundred percent believe
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick when he says there will be gap runs
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: in the playbook. But is that going to be more
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: of like a game plan thing where you know, this
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: wide zone scheme. If you play a team that has
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: a really good penetrating front and they're going to get
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: up the field on you, you're not. You don't want
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: to run stretch against a team that's guys that are
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: firing through gaps all the time, right, So that might
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: be a week where you get into more of those
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: gap runs that they used to run. So the Patriots
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: are always going to be, to me a offensive game
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: plan defense where if they feel the best way to
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: attack the opponent is to run man blocking schemes and
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: to bring the pulling guards and the lead plays and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: things like that back, they're going to run that. But
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: when I watched them out at practice, it's the play
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: action that's getting me, right, is because if you're going
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: to be running gap as much as or more than
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: the zone stuff, then where are the gap play action passes?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Because we haven't really seen those, So are those coming
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: next week or those coming once they close the practices
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: and disappear for the rest of the season. I don't know,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: but right now, the whole point of your running game
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: and play action passing game is to marry the concepts together.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: You want it to look all the same to the defense,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: so they don't know if it's run or pass and
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: they're repping like they're running zone and they're running play
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: action off of the zone. If they were going to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: start running some gap stuff and be a major gap team,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: then they would be running gap play action and we
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: just haven't seen that. Yeah, and I agree with Evan
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: in that they will have. I think that they'll probably
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: have both elements in the bag. But you're not gonna
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: like say like, okay, we're gonna open up and you know,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: let's let's hit them with some with some you know,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: zone reads and you know, do you know some RPOs
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: and let's let's get it all you know the wide
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: gap you know inside Oh wait a minute, it's not working.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Let's just go let's go to the gaps. No, it's
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: gonna be game plan related. You're gonna go into a
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: games man, this is how we're going to attack them
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: this week and next week. It might be a totally
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: different kind of a defensive scheme that you're gonna see
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna go with the opposite. Again, that's why
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: they're coaches. They know what schemes work better against, you know,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: certain looks defensively. You know you made the comment about
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: the penetrating defensive front is tough on on that kind
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: of a scheme. That's where you're going to see the differences.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: But the bottom line right now is like, I think
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: it's more execution basis. I think we can keep looking
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: no matter what. Again, on our show, we argued, right
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: the three of us argued all spring right about the plan.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: I don't like the plan. I just don't think this
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: is anything to do with the plan. They're just not
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: executing very well right now. Yeah. Yeah, it all goes
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl in twenty nineteen to me
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: as well, because that Rams team had one thing in
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: their bag and one thing only, and that was wide
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: zone right wide zone, bootleg off of it, crossing routes,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and what it Bill Belichick deal.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: He held them to three points in the Super Bowl
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: because the auto do it every time Jared Goff went
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: like this one way and went the other way, fifty
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: four was in his face. Yeah, exactly, yeah. And and
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: if you listen, and this is out there, if you
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: listen to some of those sideline things that the NFL does,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: they have Bill Belichick. They have a clip of him
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: saying to the interior defensive lineman, get vertical, Get vertical,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Get vertical, because when they stretch, you want to shoot
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: those gaps right, and you don't want to let that
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: delay kind of happen because you're rushing them into making
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: that decision. The Rams had one thing in their bag.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Bill figured it out, and then the Rams came back
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: with Sean mcvayh and now they run different stuff. They
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: have a couple of different elements in their playbook and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: they've added to their running game. They run duo. Now,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: they run some of the motion things that they ran
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots a few years ago, and that has
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: allowed them to be more productive and not just be
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: a one trick pony. So the Patriots are never going
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: to be a one trick pony. They're always going to
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: have multiple things to do. What happened in that what
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: happened in that twenty twenty Rams game, that was a
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: she lacking right, So they had the motion coming across
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: and what they were doing was they were adding on
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: blockers to the end of the line of scrimmage, so
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: their motioning guys across and leading with that receiver. And
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, the dbs are in the fit. Right,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: So now you have the safeties, you have the corners.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: They're coming down and trying to stop the run. You
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: don't want your corners stopping the run, right, you want
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: your linebacker stopping the run. So that that was the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: conflict there some of my diving into outside zone. I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: sell A funny quote from a coach was like, we
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: don't we don't we want we want to block safeties.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: We want to make corners tackle. I thought that was
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: a good little like football philosophy of like block the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: safeties because they liked the tackle corner. Do you like
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: the little phrases like me right? I think the phrases
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Poor Miles Bryant is trying to hang on for dear
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: life as receivers are coming out, Uh Jack jacking on Anna,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: But he's got a good U this or that. On
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: the fifty three man opening day roster, you guys ready,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: a couple of couple of guys like this guy or
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: this guy. You gotta pick one Tray Nixon or Sean Wade.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Trey Trey Nixon, Trey try try everybody try
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: think so Heke Wades. I mean, can we do both
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: neither as options? Sure, we'll take both rosters. Uh well,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: two of my guys, Lebron Ray and Brendon Schooler, school
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: both give me both. I think Lebron Ray's got a
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: good shot based off of what we see. I think
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: they have a crush on Schooler. Yeah, I do too.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy involved in so many different
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: things now as an undrafted Ebner esque yeah right, yeah,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: and I and I've seen like and you know, you
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: catch little moments here and there through practice, Like I've
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: caught a couple like Cam eight Court, like yep, that's it.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: That's it, like with like the kind of the hit
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: on the boat. So we've seen him throughout the spring
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: and now into camp, you know, working with like Slater
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: in Bethel and Dye Davis. Right, So clearly they want
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: to refine his special teams techniques. He's like on kickoff,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: he's on punt, He's worked as the personal protector on punt.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: You know, um, all of a sudden, the last couple
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: of days early in eleven on eleven's he's out there
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: at safety, which to me is telling me to your
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Nate Ebner point Evan, this is a guy that's on
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: my game day roster, so I need to get him
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: prepared in the What do we do if situation happens,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: like when Sean Mayer is finishing the Super Bowl in
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Houston against Carolina. Yeah, that's what I do. I go back.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I could go back to things that I can remember
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: were you're born for that one? Right? Wow, I already
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: told that a hole, and he's not allowed to do
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: that anymore. I can't. He can't tell gently talking about
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Richard Seymour because he was nine. Yeah, is nine years
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: old when Richard Seymour was a Patriot, and I think
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: he almost punched me. How dare you be so young?
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: We got two more. Arlington Hambright the Hambone. I'm loving him,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: and yes, here Durance, I think it's got to be Hambright, right,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of one of the surprises of
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: the King. I would go both there, but if I
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: have to pick one, it would be him. Right. Yeah,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: you look up and you see Arlington Hambright in the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: on offensive line and you're just kind of do double
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: take after after the third play he goes to right
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: guard and he finishes out the set and then the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: next set. A lot of times after the third play
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: he places Strange on the left side, which tells me
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: they're trying to find who's that interior swing back up,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: just like they do with tackle, and I think Haran
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: is probably that guy at tackle. Right. Yeah, Well, Harrons
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: look pretty good too. I mean one was impressed with
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: him today, right, So, I mean I think that you're
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: looking to build your depth. You're gonna have seven or
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: eight on the game day roster, and then you always
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: have guys on the practice squad too, So it's I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: think both of those guys could be around, but Hambright
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: would be my pick. If I don't only pick one.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: If they're gonna be zone heavy, then Arlington. Hambright's got
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: that kind of ability to get out of his stance
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: and get out on the perimeter like they're gonna need
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: last one. A couple of guys, well, Sam Roberts or
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Daniel aquality, I mean, I think aquality is popped a
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: little bit. I was kind of hoping for more from
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Sam Roberts. I could maybe see equality but I think
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: he's in there in that mix with Lebrian Rays like
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: a secondary kind of Russian. Either one's probably both start
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yes, with sixteen guys, you got it.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: I mean there's plenty of guys that are gonna be
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: part of the program that aren't necessarily on the game
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: day roster opening day, uh, Giovannie writes, and she just
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: had a question. I believe it's it's a it's a female.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: It's interesting, but with a why all right, I don't
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: know who cares, doesn't matter anyway, Um, go with the guy,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: all right, Jovanni, whatever you are, Uh from Alexandria way
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: of lawrence, just expect just saying that the full podcasts,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I think from the third and Monday the first weren't
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: are not posted. I think that's a that's an editing issue, right, correct, Matt,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Like they said, I think it's the live some of
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: the live training camp podcasts. Maybe music issue. Perhaps podcasts
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: only should be posted, but like, but probably I think
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: the music I think was too loud in them though
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: from the live shows. From the live shows, but you
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: were talking about just the podcast, Yeah, they said, the
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: full podcast from yesterday August third and the full podcast
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: from Monday. The first never posted on my podcast app
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Spotify and pocket casts. Also not that they didn't post
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: on the Patriots app. Any insight on that, not sure.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you letting us know, though, we'll look into that.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: We we know we do have audio issues now that
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: like if any hint of music gets picked. And I'm
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: just thinking that those days when we did the training
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: camp podcast was up there, so maybe there was some
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: music plan. I don't know, Yeah, that that seems very possible.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: But Johnson from Nose of US Scotia Nova Scotia, where
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: we've just had Brady for so long. As our expectation
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: the offense too high. Last year, my expectation were an
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: eight win team and it's not changed much. I'm not
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: a firm believer of the our defense is good theory.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I like that in quotes, but I'll try to be
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: optimistic as we look to make some strides. I'm really
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: enjoying the varying voices and takes us year. Oh, that's nice,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. I mean, our expectations, of course are way
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: too high, right, I mean Patriots fans are like, like,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: you had to know this was coming that, like you've
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: been spoiled for twenty years. You think you think it's
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: already just gonna all of a sudden click together and
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: work and you'll be in the AFC Championship, and you know,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's just it's showing how hard it is. And
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of the a lot of the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: misfires and things that have kind of added up in
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: recent history. I have played a role in that, and
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I think this is a critical year. And and you know,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: now we're talking about resetting the offense, which there was
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: another email that wrote in I'll just I forget who
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: exactly it was, but just to bring it up saying,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: you know, like why now was this really necessary? Shouldn't
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: we had done this last year? And I wonder, you know,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: was Josh knowing he might be out, you know, knowing.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't fault them for saying we can't
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: speak Josh McDaniels language, you know, we can't speak that,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: and coach that we need to kind of hit the
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: reset button. I understand that. I think it just comes
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: back to though, if you're simplifying and you're trying to
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: make it easier, wise it looks so clunky early on. Well,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: first of all, Josh McDaniels is gonna coach with Josh
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: McDaniel is gonna coach like, he's not changing his system.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you he'll run the same thing he ran
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: here for ten years with the Raiders. This year, Josh
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: McDaniels runs his offense for better or worse. I mean,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: even with Cam Newton, there were still so many elements
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: all really the only things that were made for Cam
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: were like the design quarterback runs and things like that.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: All the passing game was still Josh McDaniels is offense,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: so he's not going to change his stripes. So this
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: year it's a different animal. Now you have different coaches,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: and why is it If it's simplified, why does it
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: look so I still come back to the fact that
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: this is a very rhythmic based system that they're trying
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: to implement, especially on the ground, and that is not
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: going to come together in three padded practices. That's gonna
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: take some time. And like we said the other day,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: if it doesn't look good in September, if it doesn't
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: look good in October, and we will react accordingly. But
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: for right now, your three padded practices into this thing.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be a finished product at this point. Yeah,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: we'd like to see a little bit more progress in
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: the running game, but overall they're going to have some
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: growing pains with this type of system. Well, here's a
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: question for the group. I mean, you know, they're probably
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: we've talked about Tomorrow night in stadium, probably not going
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: to learn much Tomorrow night. Then possibly it seems like
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday off, we're going to come back here on
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday for practice. We get back to practice, the
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Hochey staff had a chance to reevaluate things. What are
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: you looking to see when we get back out here
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: on Monday. Be it a play, a player, a certain
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: player you'd like to see more of, you know, just
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: simple execution. But you know, for you, what would make
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: you feel better if we came out here on Monday
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: and this happened. Kendrick Bourne, I think that we've discussed
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: that a few times, just been very silent camp like.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: It hasn't been someone that we've really talked about much.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: I mean talking about a little bit today because today's
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: his birthday. Yeah, his balloon. He was handing out balloons
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: like I mean outside of the his energy and um, yeah,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: you know, he lights up a room. I feel like
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: that we really haven't seen him light up the field,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: and I think that I'm hoping that maybe next week
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: for the two practices that we get to see that
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see him actually become active. I mean maybe.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: I mean that's been like the running pattern is like
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: when we bring someone up. We brought up Jacobe Myers
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: and that he's been silent. The next day he showed up,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: so um speaking to existence. Yeah, maybe we'll speak into
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: existence and see Kendrick Bourne actually you know come in action.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: And I really liked with Evan shared like when when
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: you have you know, um Born and Thornton and who
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: knows train Nix in like, you know, just things get
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: better on the field. And so I'm hoping that that
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: is the case. Yeah, anybody Paul two tight ends. I
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: just need Mac Jones to look more comfortable. I want to.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: I don't even care about the results as much. I
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: want him to look more comfortable. The player that Evan
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: talked about where he's you know, it's a play action boot.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: He rolls out and he's like this is you know
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: this this thinks, you know, underhand, disgusted, throw up to
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't look happy, and I just want to
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: see him look like he did last year, Like the
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: guy that was like sort of competing all the time
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: last year. It looks like right now he's just searching
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: for answers. Yeah, it just doesn't feel like everyone's on
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: the same page. Like if we could just have that
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: working towards like a collective goal, it would just feel
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: more cohesive in the timing and some kind of day
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: he just finished and like, oh, I feel like the
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: offense has got it. But if you mentioned two tight ends,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: and I mean my question for you, is it because
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: you know you, I thought you made a good point
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: about Agalore and Thornton and getting more speed on the field.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I just don't feel like they're
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: that dynamic with those two tight ends. Like I think
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: that they're useful guys, But why do you think is
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: the two tight ends? What what difference that make? I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: guess it's more for me like formationally because I think
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: Johnny Smith ideally, if this is the way that they're going,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: then Johnny Smith is there, Kyle us Chick, right, he's
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: somebody that's going to play like more of like an
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: h back fullback type of role this year and be
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: moved around and do some different things from different angles
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: and slide into the into the flats and then take
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: those little dump boss when there's nothing open down the
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: field and have some room to run with the football.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Whereas Hunter Henry. Not to compare Hunter Henry to the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: probably the best tight end football and George Kittle, but
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is more of your traditional tight end, right,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: the guy that's going to get open at the top
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: of the route and maybe create some one on one
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: matchup problems and things like that. I still think that
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: that is going to be their base package ideally, where
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: really Johnny is essentially like what they've used a fullback
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: for in the past, but is a better version of
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: a fullback, right, somebody that's a little bit more dynamic
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: in the passing game, and then you get some of
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: that speed on the outside and create a lot of
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: opportunities underneath for those tight ends for the backs things
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: like that. I think that that's where their offense is
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: going to be the most productive outside of like spread
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: eleven personnel with Mac and the gun type of stuff,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: which is probably going to be more third down, you know,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: two minute or whatever. So when they come out first
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: and ten, twenty yard line, twenty five yard line, you know,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: first quarter opening possession. I would like to see it
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: be more twelve personnel heavy this year, certainly than it
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: was last year, where they really surprised us. All. They
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: were twenty seventh in the league and twelve personnel usage
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: last year basically didn't everybody happy, right, you thought that
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: that's what they were going back to Crock and Hernandez
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: and but I just wonder if it's because and I
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: think everything Evan said makes a ton of sense, and
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: he even dumbed it down, so I like, no, but
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: like in all seriousness, you're talking about a scheme, and
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what he means by saying Jono Smith
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: is their youth checond. Like I think Jonah Smith is
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: wildly more athletic than Kyle you should. I just don't
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: know if he's as good a football player. Yeah, instinct
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, like when you're talking about getting the
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: ball to him in space, you know, quick, little show it,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: get him out. I don't he doesn't ever look comfortable
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: doing that to me. Yeah, yeah, ever, like if you
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: can get the ball in his hands and he's actually
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: running with it. But like I think of those plays
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: early in the season last year, I think they were
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: I think they planned on using the ton It's weelve
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: personnel last year, and then Jonah got off to as
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: dreadful as starters you could get, and they said, we
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: can't have this guy out there all the time. Well,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: I think the hope is is that it's similar to
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: what he did in Tennessee under Arthur Smith, who is
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: also a wide zone adjacent type of coach. Maybe hand
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: the ball to him. Yeah, they handed him the ball,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: They threw him screens. They really just schemed him. Do
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: you remember the screens last year to him? Those are
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: some of his more productive plays. Honestly though some of them,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: some of those screens I can remember, Like, it just
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't it didn't look comfortable. A lot that's getting his
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: legs knocked out from I mean just generally, I think
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of that, and I think you see it
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: even some in this training camp, Like I don't. I
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: mean I haven't seen a ton out of him early,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: but it's just sometimes it just doesn't look athletic, it
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't look I mean you said like and He'thtic is
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: like I think it should be like the package of
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: his skills to me should produce more. He's just not
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: the type of guy and never has beens. This isn't
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: a slight on him. He's not the type of guy
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: that gets to the top of the route, makes a cut,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: gets open, and and has that sort of production right
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: where he's in that sort of vein with the Titans,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: it was a lot of scheme touches or uh you know,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: motion type of plays with him, screens kind of motioning
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: him into the flats off of those bootleg actions and
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: things like that, and then red zone production on contested catches.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Those were his two big buckets that he would get
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of his stats from and a lot of
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: his production from. If you want to use a tight
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: end to that can block a little bit that can
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: get open at the top of the route, that that's
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: why you signed Hunter Henry, Like, that's that's your guy
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: for that, Johnny. You have to be a little bit
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: more creative with his usage, and this scheme that they
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: are apparently implement should feed right into that. It should
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: get the best out of out of anybody that it
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: should work for it should work for John who the most.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly what fits his skill set,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: So you need to see a lot more from him
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: if that's going to be a productive offense. David and
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Bethlehem wanted to ask a question about the half backs,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: kind of running through some of the group. We weren't.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: We weren't really sure what Pierre Strong's issue was. He
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: just seemed limited. He was out there early on, he
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't getting Yeah, it wasn't. It was out there every
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: day in a full uniform, but didn't seem to get
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of reps. Today it took some reps. Today
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: was the first day as Kevin Harris made a positive
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: impression most squads shoure have. I mean I think he has.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, he's caught the ball pretty well. Um,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: we did. We talked to him yesterday. Yeah, I tried
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: to get some insight from him. But as typically happens
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: when you talk to rookiees, sont get much. He's a
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: little wide eyed. And then how good is Montgomery and
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: blocking tough tough to tell right now, But I just
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: I just think Montgomery has been every time I feel
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: like I look he's getting a refit running back, he's
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: returning kicks, he's on the kickoff team. I mean, he's
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: another one of those guys that just seems like he's
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: kind of everywhere. And Evin, we were kind of talking
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: about coming from Green Bay, maybe having some experience in
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: these kind of things. Maybe he's a little bit more
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: comfortable with the running, you know, making that read is
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: the running back in this kind of scheme, And you know,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: I think I just I've noticed a couple where he's
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: gotten the edge and he looks fast, but I think
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: he's going to be involved. Yeah, a lot of the
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: routes that they had him run in New Orleans and
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: in Green Bay have a lot of New England flare
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: to them. There's quite a bit of overlap with Sean
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Payton and Josh McDaniels playbooks, so there's a lot to
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: be said about that. I think the one thing that
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: stood out to me with Time Montgomery is he's faster
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: than I was expecting. He's got it, maybe a little
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: bit more of an explosive gears than somebody like Brandon Bolden,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: who obviously they've loved around here for many reasons, But
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: in terms of the way that he moves. He's definitely
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: more dangerous with the football than Bolden ever was, So
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: maybe they have a slight upgrade in terms of offensive
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: weapon with time Montgomery. I mean, obviously the special team stuff,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: they all latted Bolden as one of the best in
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: the league at that so I don't know if Montgomery
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: he is going to match him there. But in terms
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: of catching passes out of the backfield, and you mentioned blocking,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's going to be a too
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: big of a problem for him or something that they're
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: going to really I think is a major concern with
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: a veteran like him. Hey too, Yeah, yeah, I don't
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: know why the similarities between what Peyton does and McDaniels. Yeah,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: well where to Peyton started Sean Payton? Uh under ourselves?
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Oh oh so it's a it's all the same, it
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: felt connect is that erhard Perskins EP we call it
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: the EP ourselves was in Dallas, I believe when Peyton
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: sort of cut his teeth and that's the same same
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: system that the Patriots have used. Well, it's such a
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was kind of one of the first
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess maybe Gruden was one of the
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: first young hot shot offensive coordinators, you know the guys.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: It's just like I remember being aware of his offensive
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: coordinators who were like, oh, this guy's he's an offensive coordinate.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Like he's got Brian Billark too, Brian Billark in Detroit.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: That yeah, I mean, I'm sorry in Minnesota that year
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: where they scored a thousand points and they ended up
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: losing in the Age NFC Championship game. And then he
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: went to Baltimore and ironically won a Super Bowl with
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: no offense whatsoever. Do you think that that's? Uh, I mean,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: it just seems like such a thing right now that
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: everyone's obsessed with offensive and offensive coordinators and you know,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: kind of those hot shot I think everybody wants one
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: of the young guys that has a lot of product
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: in his hair and and you know, maybe a well kept,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: well kept beard in like like a gas fireplace. It's
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: like flours infinity pool. In all serious this though, I
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: don't disagree, But in all serious you mean the look
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: of the guy has nothing to do with it. They might,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's popular the ladies. Things like that.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Very yeah, they all look good. They'll look good in
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: the underarm shirts and we got Matt Patricia, God damn,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: and I not talk about another guy being good luck totally.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: Can I just think Cliff is kind of like a
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: poor man's Ryan Gosling, absolutely very poor absolutely plus plus
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: all his teams to fade out, so you know, we
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: like winners here. He looks a lot like Ryan Gossling.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: I agree with that when you have a coach like
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick because everybody says he can do everything, I
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: have no doubt about that. But he's a defensive minded coach. Right.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: Defense is his bread and butter. It's the same thing
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: that Saban runs in with at Alabama, and that is
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: you recycle through offensive coordinators. Right, You're not the guy
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: calling the plays on offense, You're not the guy running
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: the system on offense, so you have to rely on
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: somebody else to do all that. And the Patriots and
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Belichick got lucky that Josh McDaniels has been here for
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: ten years and was the second time you know, in
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: that spot for such a long period of time, Whereas
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: I think Saban's the best example, even though it's not
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: the NFL. When you look at Saban, he went from
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Kiffin to Sarkasian to Dable, to Bill O'Brien now, like
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: he's been recycling coordinators every two years, has sort of
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: the rule thumb down there is every two years the
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: coordinator from Alabama's going to get a head coaching job, right,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: So you have to keep the you know, the line moving,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: and ideally that's why you have guys that you can
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: promote from within and you develop your own coaches so
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: that it's not like you're continuously going outside of the
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: organization to find guys. But when you look across the NFL,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: all the guys that are getting head coaching jobs for
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: the most part now are offensive minded. So all the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: great offensive innovators, all the great offensive play callers are
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: now head coaches, so there's not as many of them
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: available to just to be coordinators. So that's I think
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: something that continues to plague a lot of defensive minded teams.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: And it's happening in Buffalo right now. We'll see how
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey does as the offensive coordinator of the Bills.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: But Dabele gets hired by the Giants, they lose their
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: oc that developed Josh Allen, like, now, let's see what
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: happens with the next guy. And I think that these
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: defensive minded coaches do have a slight disadvantage in the
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: fact that Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and all these
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: other coaches have started that trend that everybody wants the
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: offensive guru, say to work with young quarterbacks, and that's
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: just been the way it's gone heavily in the last
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah, and those things are generally cyclical,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: but everybody wants right now. Yeah, Beeflow popped in the
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: mind just as like a recent defensive hyped guy, and
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Salo was defensive. You know, I think everybody's looking for
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: the young sort of masterminds, you know that can you know,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: wow you with his offensive acumen. Kevin O'Connell is another
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: one on that same tree up in Minnesota. Now, yeah,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: I mean it's all sick, by the way. In full disclosure,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: I absolutely loved when they drafted him. I loved him
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: coming out of college. Thought he was going to be
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: the next big thing and he sucked could coach though,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: how soon did you know? And turn couldn't complete? You know,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: these little passes out to the flat that you know,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: when we make fun of the offense and saying it's
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: time for a little dump to Damian Harris to get
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: things back on track. He couldn't complete those not consistently.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: Hopefully he's helping Kirk Cousins. We'll get him, of course,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: the Patriots we'll see him on on Thanksgiving Night. We'll
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: all be working for that one. Uh, we'll tone it
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: would be a good game. Hey. But like, but it's
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: like every time I talk about games coming up the season,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: it's like I have like these flashes in my brain
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: of like Justin Jefferson, you know, like like just all
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: the guys that are on all these teams that they
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: have to play, he won't play. I don't know. I
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. Why is this the first time you ever
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Calvin Cook him? Him and Falan will both be questionable
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: throughout the weekend, neither one. Literally, I feel like every
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: time the Patriots faced someone last year, like Lucky whoever
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: it was, wasn't playing. Oh sure in the ten games,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: I mean in the way Titan before. Literally everyone's just
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: randomly hurt the Titans Browns like Evan's mad. It took
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: me two shows get them cook on a little bit.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: But honestly, it's like kind of happening now. I feel
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: like every time I get on Twitter every day. There's
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: another acl that's storm was there anymore? I know Patrick?
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: And there was another one yesterday, but I can't remember
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: who it was. It does seem like Buffalo dodged a boy. Yeah.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Both they're safe with both safeties picked up, but neither
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: looks to be anything that's going to keep them out
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: long term. Yeah, that's a you know, Tamara and I
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: we do. We get the crowd. We whipped them up
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: before training camp to get everybody. And I often think
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: to myself, who would I love to listen to to
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: get me excited about? Comes to mind. It's like two
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: hundred degrees and you guys are sitting on metal bleachers
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: an hour before practice. God bless you all. Uh but
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: they Mike Mike Riley sarch ninety five, you know in
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: stadium host here he uh he just he went off
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: the beaten path. The other day. He's like, so, you
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: know what's been going on at other camps like fill
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: us in And I'm like, injuries, dude, I'm here every day.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: I am so like up to my eyeballs and patriots
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: like I don't even have a chance that I would
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: have my breath. I would have hit him afterward. Don't
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: ever do that to me again. Guy, would you even say?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, the Tim Patrick, I'm like, well,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: there's been some injuries. I don't you know. I mean
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, plus, you know, even if you've
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: been here, like the only thing you know about what
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: you're reading to finish stupid feed, you know, it's like
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: I've been here. I mean, he's you know, he's trying
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: to he's trying to round it out, trying to keep
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: the process going. I was a little bit thrown off
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: to State Lane bro because I get a course, Steve
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Belchick and Gerrobmeyo playing a little pre practice catch like
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: on the over my shoulder, and I'm like, you know, so, dudes,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: tell us how bad the offense has been. I'm like,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's been great, especially the linebackers. A right,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: I mean the offense has actually been great, but I
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: mean the linebackers are just blowing every playoff. I mean
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: they are really really well coached. These guys look like
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: Gerrov Mayo and his prime two thousand and twelve. Yeah. Uh,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a little the dance we do. And
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: then of course we started today's show and uh and
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Matt Morrell's waiting for d MAC to record right next door.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: So I was, like I told Paul, I was like,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: let's we'll talk about the slipping. We start about the
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: slipping slide off the top, because I don't want d
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: Max like face pressed against the glass, Like what are
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: you saying nothing but good things about the defense so far?
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I mean that's it's I know, I know you can't
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: really say anything bad about the defense. I also just
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm ready to, you know, like I said,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: to to feel confident that that. I mean, it's hard
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: to faced on the way the season ended last year
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: and what they did personnel wise. It's harder to there
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: and say, well, they're playing great against this offense, so
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: they're going to be great this year. Yeah. And it's
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: also hard to say it because the offense doesn't look great.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: So it's like, as expected, the defense should look great,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: considering the offense hasn't found that rhythm. And if the
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: defense didn't look great, what the offense looking like the
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: way it does right now? It's very complicated rubric up
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: in my head. Yeah yeah, and if then they don't
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: look good, then they have to look good. They're really good.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: We don't know, but I think the thing that that
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: the thing I will say I feel good about though,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: is just the consistent disruption one on one winning. I mean,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: these are you know, these are still NFL linemen, and
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I know one on ones are
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: not real football or anything like that. But I just
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: think when you have athletes and the kind of talent
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: that can win those matchups, it just makes your whole
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: life easier. And then it's really just all right, let's
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: just try to get bar barm On isolated. Let's try
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: to get Jude On isolated on this play. You know,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: if they can just and and I think he could probably.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody caught Evans the tone of
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: his voice about uch like he's great speed rush. I
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: don't because he doesn't need to say so. He doesn't
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: need to be down. You don't need to be hated
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: like me. But it's yeah, it's he's gotta he's gotta
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: be I'll say, I'll say the stuff that needs to
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: be said, like, you know, yeah, you know, if if
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: he's actually blocks, then you can eliminate him from the play.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: He comes off the ball great, but every single time
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: he does a one on one, he just loads up
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: the speed rush and it's like, if you catch him,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: you catch him. If you don't, you don't. He has
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: some reps that he looks great. You're like, oh wow,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: and there was there was two of those. Two of
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: those today he got he got Win. I don't even
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: think Win got a hind. I think you might have
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: gotten Durant on one. Yeah. But then there's other times
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: where the guy, the guy gets the punch right in
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: the chest plate yeah, rep is over. Yeah, And I
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: think that that, I mean that could be something an
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: element of concern. I mean, we've talked about a plenty
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: on this show, a lot of just developing secondary rushers,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: and I think that's why, like a guy like Lebrian Ray,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: who's showing some pop in the pass rush, um, you know,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: even a quality a little bit, I think not so
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: much maybe the last couple of practices, but like it
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: just seems like if this defense got some quickness, Yeah,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: I think like, you know, those guys they're not like
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: it's obvious when it's guy god Chaw and carlt of
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: us out there and those you know the three big
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: space eat and two gap kind of defensive linemen up there. Um,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: but the other guys that that have some of that
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: space you're learning at all. We'll put you up on
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: the whiteboard later, a little three breaking down for you.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: It's these guys you're you're not breaking it down as
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: well as he really doubt. Yeah, but I think you know,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: getting those guys that that can add a secondary rush.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's maybe one of the most critical things
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: of this defense. We talk about the run defense and
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: all that, but like, ultimately the end of the day,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: if you're not getting after Josh Allen in the backfield
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: and getting him and taking him to the ground, He's
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: gonna make plays and so unique guys that can go
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: get him, you're not gonna beat guys like him, Guys
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: like two in the RPO when you've got a bunch
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: of guys who right off the snap they just stand
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: there and hold their ground and let two kind of
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: sit there and pick the spot. Yeah, you just say
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: that because you saw him on TV behind us? Was
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: he Josh? Now I got Josha on the brain. I
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: know that buffalo. What I was thinking, I didn't know
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: if you watch him, but they just showed like digs
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: just running across er ands. It is like I was like,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: they can do. That's what he's looking for from Aga.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: The one guy though that has popped sometimes in the
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: pass rush that he had one rep in one on
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: ones I think it was on the second padded practice
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: and they haven't let him rep one on ones again.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: But mac Wilson has looked pretty good coming downhill, whether
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: it's an interior blitzer coming off the edge. I've liked
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: what I've seen from him so far in terms of
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: the speed of that position. He's a really really good athlete,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: all around great athlete. And so it was Rayqua McMillan.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: So maybe they can get some of that pressure from
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: the second level a little bit more than they did
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: last year. You know who they're gonna use in that regard,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: And I think that he has been a quietly effective blitzer,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: and I don't really like him in his traditional thumper
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: role as Bentley. Bentley, Yeah, every time they seem like
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: they have a stunt involving him, he gets there. Yeah.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: You know sometimes you see like you dial up a
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: perfect blitz and it's there and the guy and he
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: either runs by the quarterback or he you know, takes
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: a bad angle, misses the tackle, and all of a
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: sudden you're in jeopardy because this defense was designed to
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: get him immediate pressure and you got it and you
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: didn't stop the play. Yeah, well, this is a good question.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and I think we flirted with it.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: I rather think we could say that we've seen Bentley
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: on the edge a little bit. I don't think that
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: that's that crazy, But I mean, are we looking at
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe a jump forward for Bentley in terms of
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: just expanding his role, not quite just being that kind
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: of standard. Like Paul said Thumper Mill of linebacker in
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: the middle, I actually love the idea of putting him
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: more on the line of scrimmage, just because it gets
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: him out of those foot races over the middle of
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: the field and coverage come back and you can get
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: guys Ray Kua. McMillan's a low four six forty guy
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: at two hundred and forty pounds. He can run right.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: You know, Mac Wilson, great all around athlete, played basketball,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: played football. You know, he's he's a five star guy
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: at both sports and coming out of high school. So
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: I think that you have some two guys there that
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: are much better athletes, and then you start to incorporate
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: some of the safeties obviously as well, you know, Phillips, Dugger,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: maybe Josh Bledsoe, and all of a sudden, your second
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: level is a lot more dynamic. And Bentley, the one
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: thing that he does really, really well is take on
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: guys and put shoulders in to people, and that if
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: you're just asking him to set the edge, I mean,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: that's really all that he's got to do. So I
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: really liked the idea of him going out there, him
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: being sort of that sturdy, early down edge setting type
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: of presents. Let Jude on to off and do his
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: thing on the backside, and maybe you can get a
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: little bit better and more dynamic at the second level.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: Do you have every guy on the roster's forty time memorized?
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Is that not every guy? A lot a lot? So
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: four four four seven so much more positive than me.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: When he said that ray Qua mc millan runs a
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: four six, my immediately thought, plus, yeah, before we tightened
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: like that tightened, I to Ben that was actually the
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: first thing. But to be fair, a lot of people
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: are saying the Patriots don't have enough speed, they don't
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: have enough improved they improved. That's one thing that has
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: really popped out. And these practices, they're much faster than
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: the football. They've improved team speed at on both sides
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: of the ball, and I don't think there's an argument
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: to be made against that. I think my only question
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: with mac Wilson is just how involved can he get
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: because I think we've still seen him kind of on
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: the right field. I think more of us. I think
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: he's more of a sub guy. Yeah, I think he's
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: the guy though, and yeah, yeah, but see it when
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about McMillan and mac wilson as opposed
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: to High Tower in Van Noy. And I'm not saying
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: that High Tower they were both solid, solid players. High
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: Tower was at times great, but they couldn't run like
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, they couldn't, I mean especially last year,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: you know, at the tail end of their career. So
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: there's no there's no argument against the added speed. Well,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: I think our time is about up two hours a
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: rifle and through it all again. Layout the schedule for
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: you guys who got tomorrow night in stadium practice, Probably
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: not too much going on, but well we'll be there
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: just in case, and we will record a quick little
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: recap afterwards in case anything big happens. Otherwise, we'll be
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: back at practice day and back at practice Tuesday, and
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: we'll be back on PU on Tuesday twelve to two.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: So until then, we will see you next Tuesday. Thank
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: you for downloading this podcast, Subscribe on Apple, Google Play,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, please rate
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: and review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: high in the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: Be sure to Checkpatriots dot com for more news and
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: more podcasts.