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Co-Pilot Tries to Crash Plane, Media Spins It — Pags & Molan · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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  Speaker 1: Terror over the skies of the Middle East and heroics
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  Speaker 1: saved a lot of lives.
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  Speaker 2: This is like a Hollywood movie, Joe. It's insane, but
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  Speaker 2: in the best possible way. Plus, someone's taken aim at
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump for the midterm convention. You might not guess
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  Speaker 2: who it is to our listeners and viewers out there
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  Speaker 2: because it's one of his own team.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, one of us was honored by
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  Speaker 1: the president getting re-truthed this week and getting a lot
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  Speaker 1: of attention out of it. I won't say who it is.
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  Speaker 1: You can probably tell. I'm Pags.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Molin.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do this. All right, Erin, you are at a
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  Speaker 1: vantage point, an advantage, that is, to me. I'm in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: You're in Australia. So you're closer to the time zone
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  Speaker 1: of what was going on in the Middle East overnight.
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  Speaker 1: Fill us in on when you found out what you
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  Speaker 1: were thinking, because had I been you, had I been
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  Speaker 1: awake watching this unfold, I might have thought the worst
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  Speaker 1: was on the way. I could not believe this story.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me how and when you found out.
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  Speaker 2: It was crazy, Joe. So it was just after dinner.
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  Speaker 2: And I was looking at different updates like I do.
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  Speaker 2: My phone started going off and people are saying, what
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  Speaker 2: is going on with this aeroplane, this plane? There's apparently
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  Speaker 2: a flight and Israeli fighter jets and Saudi Arabian fighter
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  Speaker 2: jets have been deployed to fly alongside it. The signal
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  Speaker 2: has gone out. It's a 7500. which is the signal
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  Speaker 2: for hijack. And so, of course, you think the worst.
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  Speaker 2: We had a moment, though, Joe, and it was about
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  Speaker 2: maybe 20 minutes later where all of a sudden there
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  Speaker 2: was appeasement.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a fight between the pilots. The plane
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  Speaker 2: is headed to Saudi Arabia where it will land. All
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  Speaker 2: is well in the world. But all was not well.
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  Speaker 2: It turns out it was an attempted hijacking. A pilot
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  Speaker 2: from Oman, the co-pilot, said, had allegedly stabbed the captain
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  Speaker 2: of this flight an Indian pilot who is a hero
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  Speaker 2: because he managed to as he was being stabbed and
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  Speaker 2: attacked by this terrorist who wanted to crash the plane
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  Speaker 2: and this is a belief and of course we're waiting
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  Speaker 2: for more confirmation he'll be spoken to and when he
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  Speaker 2: heals because he's not in great shape himself, managed to
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  Speaker 2: open the door to the cockpit. Now, we've just had
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  Speaker 2: the 9-11 anniversary 25 years. After that, of course, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: and America knows this better than anyone, airports, airlines, aeroplanes
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  Speaker 2: became lockdown zones. You cannot get into the cockpit for
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  Speaker 2: good reason. But what if, Joe, what if the threat
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  Speaker 2: is already inside the cockpit? That's what happened here.
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  Speaker 1: It's never what you would expect to happen. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, pilots can be armed. I'm okay with pilots
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  Speaker 1: having guns, to be honest. We trust them with our lives.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's got to be some more psychiatric or psychological
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  Speaker 1: testing done. But to your point, this guy, we heard
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  Speaker 1: some reports he was stabbed in the neck. We're not
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  Speaker 1: sure yet where the injuries are. We know that he's
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  Speaker 1: in critical but stable condition. I will say this, to
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  Speaker 1: have the wherewithal and the mindset to reach over and
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  Speaker 1: you physically have to unlock the door. It's not a
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  Speaker 1: remote thing. It's not something you could press a foot pedal.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to physically unlock it. And that told, he
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  Speaker 1: literally was yelling to everybody in the fuselage, get up here,
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  Speaker 1: come and help me. We're under attack. And now the
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  Speaker 1: plane is plunging 17,000 feet. In less than two minutes,
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  Speaker 1: the plane wasn't made to go that fast. So part
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  Speaker 1: of the rudder flies off. And now, luckily, you've got
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  Speaker 1: another flight crew just trying to go home to Israel
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  Speaker 1: who was able to get the ship righted and get
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  Speaker 1: it landed in Saudi Arabia. As you're seeing it unfold, though,
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  Speaker 1: what you said about the fight in the cockpit bothers me,
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  Speaker 1: and here's why. I think the big media, and I
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  Speaker 1: want your thoughts on this, I think the big media
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  Speaker 1: tries to minimize the situation. This is clearly an attempted
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  Speaker 1: terrorist attack. They don't want to say that. CNN still
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  Speaker 1: hasn't called it an attempted terrorist attack. What about that
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  Speaker 1: angle of it? Why do they try to minimize it?
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  Speaker 2: Some of the headlines are criminal here. They are absolutely criminal.
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  Speaker 2: And I tell you what, these mainstream media networks, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: will run cover for terrorists. And we've seen it not
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  Speaker 2: just since October 7, but a million times prior.
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  Speaker 3: We're seeing it now with these candidates.
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  Speaker 2: Who are being endorsed and who are campaigning alongside people
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  Speaker 2: who have the images of the towers off the back
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  Speaker 2: of 9-11 in the background, and they are standing alongside
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  Speaker 2: some of these candidates for the Democrats, and the mainstream
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  Speaker 2: media will not call them out. So if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to hijack a plane, Joe, might I suggest you don't
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  Speaker 2: do a flight going from Dubai to Tel Aviv, because
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  Speaker 2: if there's a nation of people who are well-versed in
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  Speaker 2: fighting terrorism... not sitting idly by and watching it occur,
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  Speaker 2: not panicking because they've got absolutely no idea what to do,
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  Speaker 2: which I would be in that category.
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  Speaker 3: But sorry, the wrong crowd. They jumped up.
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  Speaker 2: A group of men were so brave, ran in, took
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  Speaker 2: out the co-pilot, the alleged terrorist. saved the life we hope.
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  Speaker 2: He's still being treated now of the Indian captain who
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  Speaker 2: did a phenomenal job. And then, of course, had another
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  Speaker 2: crew on board, as you mentioned, who were able to
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  Speaker 2: land this plane. 180 people, Joe, 30 children on this flight.
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  Speaker 2: This could have been an entirely different outcome. Thank God
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: We want all innocence protected, but it also bears mentioning
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  Speaker 1: that I think four Americans were on there. And you've
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  Speaker 1: got people from all walks of life, all backgrounds, all religions,
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  Speaker 1: all beliefs. who were saved that day or last night
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  Speaker 1: or night and a half ago because of the quick
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  Speaker 1: action of those who were on the plane. And what
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  Speaker 1: also jumps out at me is the president of the
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  Speaker 1: United States said that a plumber was a guy who
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  Speaker 1: went up there and ripped the co-pilot out of the
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  Speaker 1: seat and got rid of it. Now, the president also
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  Speaker 1: elaborates and says the plumber righted the plane and fixed it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, but the plumber
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  Speaker 1: got in there. And if you think about it, Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: you and I both know this, and those watching and
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  Speaker 1: listening might not, I don't care if you're a plumber
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  Speaker 1: or you're a school teacher or you're a fill in
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  Speaker 1: the blank. If you're an adult in Israel, you've gone
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  Speaker 1: through military training. That's required there. So whoever it was,
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  Speaker 1: it could have been the plumber. It could have been
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  Speaker 1: the garbage man. It could have been a teacher. It
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  Speaker 1: could have been a talk show host. They were going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to kick some ass and take some
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  Speaker 1: names and save some lives. Did you hear about the
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  Speaker 1: plumber story too?
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  Speaker 3: I did indeed. And I tell you what I also saw.
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  Speaker 2: Was the interaction between this plumber and the Israeli prime minister,
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin Netanyahu. And he kind of, they come together, the
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  Speaker 2: plumber still had blood all over his shirt.
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  Speaker 3: And he's saying to the prime minister, I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: change my shirt, but they wouldn't let me.
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  Speaker 2: And they hugged and the plumber is saying to him,
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  Speaker 2: to the PM, oh, you know, I watch you all
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's a big fan.
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  Speaker 2: And the PM said, well, I will now be watching
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  Speaker 2: you all the time. And absolutely, he will be. They're heroes, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: And one other note, which I'll make on this, and it.
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  Speaker 2: Might be a some helpful advice for all of our
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  Speaker 2: watchers here in that he watched those kind of flight
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  Speaker 2: shows where things go wrong. And I hate them because
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  Speaker 2: I think there's enough tragedy in the world. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to relive and rewatch awful things happening. But he
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  Speaker 2: reckons he learned how to pull back whatever the hell
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  Speaker 2: that is, from watching these flight disaster shows. And again, though,
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  Speaker 2: Trump was clever because he did say this is BB's account.
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  Speaker 2: He always is careful to distance himself in case it
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  Speaker 2: turns out to be utter.
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  Speaker 3: Drivel or an advancement. Who knows? But regardless, it.
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  Speaker 2: Was the most extraordinary effort that no doubt saved 180
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  Speaker 2: innocent lives. And this is the battle that we talk
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  Speaker 2: about in a broader sense, particularly when we look at
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  Speaker 2: candidates in the U.S., who align themselves with the kind
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  Speaker 2: of ideology that attempts to end lives and destroy lives
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  Speaker 2: and that was responsible for 9-11, and we don't know
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  Speaker 2: the motive yet in this case, but I'd say it's
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  Speaker 2: highly likely, this is a difference between good and evil,
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  Speaker 2: between doing something where you could die saving lives as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to doing something where you will die taking lives,
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  Speaker 2: and that is the camp that Co-Pilot was in.
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  Speaker 1: in our social media. False flag. This is so Bebe
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  Speaker 1: come on, the guy's really got blood on him while
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  Speaker 1: false flag crap. I mean, it happens. Has it happened? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely it does.
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  Speaker 2: But it doesn't surprise me in any way, shape, or form, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: because this is what they do. This is what the
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  Speaker 2: far left, the communist socialist, loving people who maybe hate
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  Speaker 2: Israel and hate Bibi. But I tell you who and
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  Speaker 2: what they hate more, Joe. They hate Trump and they
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  Speaker 2: hate America as much as they hate anything else. And
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  Speaker 2: that is so obvious. And it's disgusting to look at it.
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  Speaker 2: And then by extension, Joe, and we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: this off air and you're fired up about this, the
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  Speaker 2: media coverage of this and the way in which the
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  Speaker 2: mainstream media will run cover for anything they think might
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  Speaker 2: go against their narrative with, oh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's no terrorism and everything's fine in the world.
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  Speaker 3: We're the evil ones. America are the terrorists. The West
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  Speaker 3: is evil. Sorry, no.
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  Speaker 2: They are reporting this as though there was just– You know,
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  Speaker 2: the two pilots were fighting over a girlfriend.
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  Speaker 3: Is the impression you get when you read some of
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  Speaker 3: the headlines. It's so stupid.
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  Speaker 2: And the issue is if people don't understand the threat,
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  Speaker 2: if people don't understand what exists, then they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to stand up against it and fight it.
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  Speaker 2: You won't get people on board. And this is what
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  Speaker 2: the mainstream media do. They try and trick Americans into
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  Speaker 2: not understanding what the threat is and the fact that
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  Speaker 2: it actually exists.
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  Speaker 3: It's criminal.
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  Speaker 1: It bothered me because I saw some idiots on X
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  Speaker 1: comparing it to Bondi Beach saying they were both false flags,
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  Speaker 1: just trying to get sympathy for Israel, so on and
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  Speaker 1: so forth. It makes me absolutely sick. But I want
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  Speaker 1: to finish on this topic this way. Does it bother
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  Speaker 1: you as much as it does me that Saudi Arabia
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  Speaker 1: played geopolitics over this now? Saudi Arabia lets the plane
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  Speaker 1: land there.
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  Speaker 4: Great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad they did. Thank you for doing that. They
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  Speaker 1: would not let El Al or any Israeli airliner come
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  Speaker 1: into Saudi Arabia to pick up all of these Israelis.
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  Speaker 1: There were 160 plus Israelis on that plane. And then
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  Speaker 1: they made them wait there for another. A fly Dubai
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  Speaker 1: plane to come in from the UAE to pick them up.
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  Speaker 1: So here are people now who almost died on a
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  Speaker 1: fly Dubai plane, had to wait for a fly Dubai
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  Speaker 1: plane to jump back on. A lot of them, Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to get on. A lot of the Israelis said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not getting on that plane. Are you crazy? Why
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  Speaker 1: can't we have one of our planes? And Israel, from
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  Speaker 1: what I understand, I'm going to shut up in a
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  Speaker 1: second because this blows my mind. They offered to send
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  Speaker 1: an unmarked plane that wouldn't have even been El Al,
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  Speaker 1: would not have been identified an Israeli plane at all.
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  Speaker 1: And Saudi Arabia's crown prince says, I won't let Netanyahu
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  Speaker 1: use this to advance his means to win an election,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. I'm like, what? Did you hear that,
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  Speaker 1: first of all? And what do you think of it?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like Trump derangement syndrome. It's the equivalent
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  Speaker 2: of that, Joe. And, again, there are instances that should
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  Speaker 2: go above any kind of political disagreement or any kind
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  Speaker 2: of weaponisation of something, and this is one of them.
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  Speaker 2: There are innocent people involved. As I said earlier, 28
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  Speaker 2: children on that flight. Now, I've seen all the videos
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  Speaker 2: I think that probably exist online when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: people filming on that flight.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And the fear, it's actually sickening.
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  Speaker 2: The sounds actually, Joe, I find the sounds of people's
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  Speaker 2: fear and screams worse than than the videos themselves.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I tell you what, to then land and be
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  Speaker 2: in a place where you maybe don't feel safe and
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  Speaker 2: then to have to be delayed there because of, you know, posturing,
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  Speaker 2: which is exactly what it was. That's disgusting, absolutely. And
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  Speaker 2: off the back of, again, you know, the Qatari leader
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  Speaker 2: doing an interview this week and talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the person who kept and housed Hamas leaders and after
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  Speaker 2: October 7, protected them, taking potshots again. And we have
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  Speaker 2: this conversation a lot. I am not pro-Israel. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's utterly ridiculous. I stand by Israel's right to exist.
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  Speaker 2: I stand by an innocent democratic nation. I'm against terror.
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  Speaker 3: And I just, I look at all of this and
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  Speaker 3: I see it's just... It's never ending.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know how they handle it. But when
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  Speaker 2: you look at the facts, it doesn't line up. So
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia should have done better here.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, had he said, I'm going to fly in
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  Speaker 1: a plane that says vote Netanyahu on the side. I
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  Speaker 1: get it. You got a problem with that. And even
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  Speaker 1: if you say LL, I think that's being petty. OK,
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  Speaker 1: we won't do that. Let's send one that's unmarked. It
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  Speaker 1: won't have any notations that it's from Israel whatsoever. It
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  Speaker 1: was really petty. And he said something about something about
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to let Netanyahu force cooperation or something.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up, dude. You had a bunch of people that
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  Speaker 1: almost died over your airspace and a plane wanted to
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  Speaker 1: come and get them. That's not asking much. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to keep an eye on that. And I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate I'll be honest with you. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you right here in front of all the
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  Speaker 1: viewers and the listeners. I didn't know about it. When
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  Speaker 1: you commented to me on WhatsApp about we have to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the plane, I'm like, yeah, we really should.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea what you were talking about because, again,
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  Speaker 1: you were awake. It's dinner time. I'm sleeping. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when I got up today and I saw all of this,
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  Speaker 1: I went, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: So we will stay on this as Pags and Mullen
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  Speaker 1: always will stay on this. Before we started, you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: the Republican convention, that little inside baseball. I was going
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  Speaker 1: to go, and then I decided not to. You were
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  Speaker 1: going to go, and somehow because of flights and screw-ups,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't end up going to. But I don't know
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  Speaker 1: anybody who could have said anything other than it was
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  Speaker 1: a rousing success. It looked really packed to me. It
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  Speaker 1: did now three or four weeks later. It is showing
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  Speaker 1: a bump a little bit in the actual polling results.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: What do you take from CNN suggesting it was a
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: complete bust?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the fact that you just said CNN suggesting,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, my mind automatically switches off before you even
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: need to finish.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I know it's going to be absolute utter nonsense.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: But even the figures, and it was up against the NFL,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: the figures for this in terms of viewership on all
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: platforms annihilated the NFL so many more, I think 10
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: or 20 times over. more people consume this content. And
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I watched the entire thing.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: You're right. I was desperate to go. I was meant
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I was going to be set up there and doing
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a whole heap of things. And of course, it was
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: my fault. I stuffed up visas and couldn't get there.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: So I thought to myself, well, I'm not going to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: miss a second, even though I'm going to be a
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: little bit further away. I watched the entire thing. And
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I tell you what, if you're calling that a failure,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: then your head is screwed on backwards. Even if the
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Democrats had done this and it had gone the exact
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: same way, I would have said the exact same thing.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Smart move by them. This creates, this is galvanized.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: It's created a lot of buzz.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: And even looking at the news off the back of
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Trump speaking, and of course there were negative, there always is,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: but the majority of it actually was fairly positive, which
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: is a rarity in America as well. So I think
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: it was a brilliant move, and I think this will
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: now become just the norm when it comes to midterms.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I thought it was absolutely brilliant.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: There were moments where I got chills. I thought, you know,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I don't always agree with everything J.D. Vance says, but
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I thought he spoke brilliantly. Brandon Gill, who I know
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you know well.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: He was phenomenal.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: That's the first time I've really heard him speak at length,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and I thought he is a future president. If you're
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: watching that, they got the balance right as well between
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: really identifying the threat of their opposition and pointing out
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: the absolute insanity of the DSA and the Democrats and
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: how they would take your country, I mean... I don't
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: even want to think about the impact of them gaining
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: more power. But they also managed to get in the wins,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and that's hard to do, and to get coverage off
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the back of the wins. It's one thing to say
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: it to a convention and then have no mainstream media
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: report it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: They actually got a few wins on the board there.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I thought it was phenomenal.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. Well, I want to give you what
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: CNN said. This is important. It's official. Trump's midterm convention
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: was a bust. That clearly is just an editorial comment.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: That is not something that's newsworthy. So Aaron Blake is
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: a non-journalist piece of garbage. But let me go through
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: this a little bit. It seemed a highly questionable decision,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: even at the time, to hold an unorthodox GOP midterm
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: convention dubbed Trumpapalooza, largely focused on historically unpopular president. Again,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: just saying stuff to denigrate the president. But President Donald
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Trump muscled the idea through anyway, and no Republican seemed
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: willing to object. Now it's pretty clear it was a dud.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Another editorialism here from this guy who wants to be
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: a journalist and might well have hurt the GOP, which
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: this guy hopes. Now it's pretty clear. Even the man
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: who seemingly could have benefited the most is apparently saying
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it out loud. New York Times on Wednesday. Aaron, you're
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: going to love this because we're just going to say
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: we're going to quote the New York Times quoting something else.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and pretending like it's journalism. I'm going to stop in
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a second, but I can't help myself. The New York
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Times on Wednesday published audio of Texas Senate candidate Ken
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Paxton privately complaining to conservative donors and lobbyists that Trump's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: much-hyped midterm convention, which was held in Paxton's home state,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and forced heavily on him and his race, did more
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: harm than good. Quote, so to be honest with you,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the numbers, when we did that convention, it dropped our numbers,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the Texas Attorney General said. Everybody's numbers dropped. Right now, yeah,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: not good. In a statement, his person, Nick Maddox, by
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the way, said the Times story is manipulated nonsense and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: they're creating a story that doesn't exist. So let me
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: stop there. We have both done journalism for a living.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You and I have made a lot of money being journalists,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: being even-handed and knowing how to do the job. None
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: of this is journalism. If you're going to quote the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: New York Times, quoting an audio that we don't have,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and even though we do have the audio, it could
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: be out of context. We have no idea. By the way,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: just a side note for those watching and listening, why
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it's so important to watch us. While you were talking
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just now, Ken Paxton texted me. I kid you not.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: He wants to come on soon. So that's going to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: happen very soon. It just happens because we're doing our thing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm busy with Molan. Leave me alone, Ken.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So- He replied to my tweet. I inboxed him on
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Twitter and said, can you come on the show? And
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: he inboxed me back. He's ignored me now for the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: last nine days. And yes, I'm counting, but you know what?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: As long as he's on one of our shows, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: know that good people will get what they need.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So i am i've got his digits i will put
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: in a word for you that said ken paxton um
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: did not get a bump nor did he get a
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: loss out of the convention yet aaron did you see
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the poll numbers today Suddenly he's three points up on Tallarico.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: That didn't happen because it happened. It happened because there
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: was a very good convention in his state where people
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: were now finally seeing, I think it took a little longer,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: three or four weeks, but we're finally seeing the ripples.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: What do you make of CNN, MSNOW, Politico always lying
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: or always bringing the negative to the fore? Not one
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: report that I can tell, and maybe I'm wrong by now,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: maybe they've done something, says that Paxton just took a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: lead over Tallarico. Now it's all within the margin of error.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And the truffle palooza was still crap. What do you
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: make of that? Knowing that they want what they said
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: today to be true. And it's simply not.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: The issue I have, and I, yes, I'm a journalist
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: by trade. What I do these days is commentary. And
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that's very obvious, Joe. My show is called exactly the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Aaron Mullen show. I give people my take. If I
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: was working for an outlet like CNN or Politico, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: if I was, pretending to be a journalist, I would
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: tell people the information and allow them to make their
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: mind up as to whether or not that is a
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: positive or a negative.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You make their mind up.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy. But the issue here is they pretend to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: be journalists and they pretend that what they've written is
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: clearly a commentary piece is fact. It's not fact. There
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: is not one element of it that is fact.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And, of course, you won't see that there's been a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: bump because it doesn't suit the narrative.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, though.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: If he's got one thing, Paxton, that he wants to
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: be a little shirty at the president about, the president
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: did mention multiple times during that convention that he wasn't
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the best-looking bloke.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: He literally said, he doesn't look great, he doesn't dress well,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: he doesn't speak great, but vote for him. He's a
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: really good guy. Erin, when he did that, I was like, oh,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: my God, what are you doing? I don't know. And
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you said shirty, right? He wants to be shirty.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Shirty.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I've never heard that word before, shirty. We'll make sure
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: there's an R in there.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. It's above board way of saying the more
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: offensive word, as you know. But look, if he was
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: whispering to donors that he was somewhat offended by the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: lack of aesthetic compliments, then I'd be like.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, cool. I got you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I got you back.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Trump was actually asked about this during a press conference.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: He did a big announcement with Howard Lutnick and a whole,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: in fact, there was a cast of about 30,000 behind
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: him who all got their moment in the spotlight, which
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: was quite entertaining. They're very complimentary and I love that.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: But really important announcement, three major projects, $ 200 billion in, Before.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: You even go there.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Stop, though.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: You just cued me up. You just cued me up.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Trump was asked about this. I want those watching and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: listening to understand. Erin knows this. This is what happens.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: The New York Times says something. Whether it's true or
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: not doesn't matter. CNN reports on what the New York
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Times says. And then some idiot in the Oval Office
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: asks a question based on those reports.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: President, there is a report that Ken Paxton was complaining
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: about your midterm.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Convention and he felt like it hurt him. What's your
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: reaction to that?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: This is how you manufacture news. I'm going to let
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you hear the rest of it. But think about it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: This one reports it. That one reports the report. This
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: person now reports the reporting on the report to the president.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Well, I haven't heard that, but I can tell you
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: that the convention was amazing, as you probably know.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: We had 107 million views. Think of that. We had
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: over 100 million views.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: That's what Mullen gets on just about every video, by
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the way, 107 million views.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: 107.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: The NFL had 25 million views. So we had four
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: times what the NFL did. And, you know, it's possible
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: that could be true. I don't know if it's possible,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: but other people were helped greatly. This was a national convention,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: a midterm convention, never been done before. And we went
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: directly against the NFL. It was just the timing worked
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: out that way. And we had 107 million versus 25
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: million views, which was a big story in the entertainment
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: world and sports world.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: So I think the convention, I would imagine they do
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: it again often.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Somebody said it won't do as well because I won't
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: be around, but I'll be around in some form.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know what form I'm going to be around in.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: But the convention, just based on the views that it got,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: it was the most watched thing on television.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: And that included the NFL, which is pretty amazing.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I love how he responded to that because the question
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: was a gotcha question. How is he going to respond
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to a guy that he's endorsed if the guy who
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: he endorsed said something bad? And four news generations before this,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: somebody said something bad. He could have said, Paxton can
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: kiss my ass, doesn't have my endorsement anymore. But instead,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not. We'll see
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: if it's true. But a lot of people did very well.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: And we smoked everybody in the convention. And you're going
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to be stuck with me for a long time in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: some form or the other. What do you make of
• 24:52
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• 24:54
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think, Joe, first of all, it absolutely rubbishes
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the claim that he is, you know, anti-press freedom and
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: he censors. I mean, he was there for an hour
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: answering questions, positive questions. You know, there were a couple
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: of ones where he said, I like that question. Thank
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you for that question. Another one's where he bristled a
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: little bit, but gave them a very legitimate response. So
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the accessibility to him is out of this world. But yeah,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: he nailed it. He wasn't defensive at all. And do
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: you know what he used to respond, which I know
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: is a foreign concept to most of those asking questions
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: in the Oval Office?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Facts. F-f-f-f-f-facts. I mean, God, who would have thought? But
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I thought he handled it, you know, he handled it brilliantly.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: And he didn't throw Paxton under a bus and he said, well,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you know what, I think this as well, and it's
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: interesting because you can say and you can disagree with
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Trump and you can Last week I did a story
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: where I was critical of his son and the Russian oligarch.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You can actually do that and he's actually, I think
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: he's very reasonable with most people. So he could actually say,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you know what, if Paxton's annoyed or if he's having
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: a bad day or if he doesn't see the bump
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in the polls that he was hoping for as soon
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: as he was, maybe he did have a little bit,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you know, a bitch and a moan, whatever, move on.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Sensitive to that. That's one of the things that I
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: pick up on that as well.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, the first time I interviewed
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: him was a long time ago. And he said to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: me off the air before we started, he said, I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: don't care what you ask me as long as you're fair.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And I said, Mr.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: President, you're going to find out that he wasn't the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: president yet. I think I said, Mr. Trump, you're going
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to find out that I'm going to be very fair.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: And I've always asked him any question I wanted to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: ask him. Now, I like the guy and I support
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of his policies. So I'm not going to be,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the way Barbara Walters was back in 1978.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not going to be that guy. But at
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the same time, he's never shied away from it. And
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and he's always had a bit of humor about it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's what the legacy media doesn't get. If
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: they came at him with the hard questions and threw
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: in a little likability, I still like you, Trump. But
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I have to ask you these hard questions. I think
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: he would play along with it. And I think that's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: what puts him off a bit. For me, seeing him
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: answer the way he did today is the right way
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to go. when he points and says piggy or what
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: do you, what do you know what he says? You
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: are fake news. Don't ask a question. Get out of here.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: You never smile. And you look like Dylan Mulvaney. I mean,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I think at that point it goes too far for
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: some to stomach you and I can deal with it,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: but I think some can't.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I think you're exactly right. And I think that's when
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you lose people who say, you know what? Maybe the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: rhetoric isn't entirely to my liking, or maybe the way
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: he sometimes articulates things doesn't sit overly comfortably with me, but,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: The policies and the things that he does, the actual
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: real actions that make the world safer for my little
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: girl when she goes to college, I will support that
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: every day of the week. And all he does when
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: he does get a little bit antagonistic or he does,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you know, like the Miss Piggy example. it puts off
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: people that are otherwise in his camp. And so I agree,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: he doesn't need to do it. Now he doesn't need
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: to be perfect. And a lot of the times when
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: he lashes out a bit or he has a go,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: that's also part of what makes him him. And part
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: of the reason why I think, you know, that you
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: will get what he truly thinks and believes, even if
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you don't like it, even if it makes you bristle,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: even if you go, Oh God, I wouldn't have said
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: it that way. You know, that you're getting an unfiltered version,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: which I would far prefer rather than an Obama-like. He
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: might have been word perfect in this orator who used
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: big words and was this feminist, but actually did nothing
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: to help women, i.e.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Giving the Islamic regime of Iran away.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Millions and billions of dollars to use to kill their
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: own people so i would much rather a president who's
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: unfiltered and and not perfect than the alternative.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Did you say feminist or feminine he was feminine i
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: agree with that what I couldn't hear you. There's a
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: connection from Australia. I sometimes lose words. It's Aaron Mullen.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Go to Aaron underscore Mullen over on YouTube. And I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Joe Pegg. So let's get into something. One of us
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: was honored this week by President Donald J. Trump over
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: on Truth Social. And I don't know that that person
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: slept at all because my WhatsApp blew up the whole night.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Look at here. Donald J. Trump. from a great journalist,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: President DJT, and it's our one and only Erin Molan. Erin,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: talk to me about how that felt when you saw that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I tell you, Joe, I was, look, I sleep with
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: my little girl still, and she's eight years old, so
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I probably do need to work on.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: That and get her in her own bed. But there's time,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: there's time. She kicked me.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Kicked me in the leg, woken me up, and I'm
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: normally quite good. I will look at my phone just
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: to check if there's anything big.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I might go to the bathroom, get a water, go
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: back to bed.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: I looked.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I thought something's on here because there's a lot.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: More than normal.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And then I saw a comment actually on another thing saying,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Trump has just posted your video.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And anyway, I got up, went and had a look,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: looked at Truth Social.
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  Speaker 2: And, I mean, I'm not going to pretend that I
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: didn't cry a little bit, which I did, which is
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: probably quite sad.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: But do you know what? As well.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I love? No, it's not sad.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I hosted sport, Jo, for 20 years, right? I hosted
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: top-level sport in Australia, the first woman to host different things.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And the one thing I hated the most is when
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: something amazing happened to an athlete and I interviewed them
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and they'd be like, yeah, like they'd just won the
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: World Cup or the World Championship and they'd be like, yeah, well,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: No, I want to see what it means to you.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So I'm very comfortable in saying I cried. I called
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: my poor mother. I don't have a husband. I couldn't
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: call my husband. My daughter couldn't care less. I tried
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: to tell her in the morning what this meant.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: She's like, next.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: What?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: She's like, sounds good. What's for breakfast?
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Couldn't care less. But I rang mom and I was
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: over the moon. But I tell you, there was a moment, Joe,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I got a little bit emotional where I thought.
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  Speaker 5: Good.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Dad would be so proud. Dad would be incredibly proud.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: And I wish he was here. But again, yes, it
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: feels amazing. And it's, you know, in ways that are,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you know, my ego is boosted a little bit because
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: it feels great.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: But the more important element of this and what I
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: care more.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: About is the message that you and I are fighting
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: so desperately to spread. gets a bigger platform. And that
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to me was the greatest win of all of this.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: It was what I believe and what I'm fighting for.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: We'll get a bigger platform just for this moment.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You and I have the same work ethic and we
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: really believe in what it is that we do, but
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with getting the leader of the free
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: world to validate what it is that you're doing. There's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. And you took it exactly how
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you should have taken it. There were a lot of
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: F bombs dropped on my WhatsApp. when that showed up
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: in your feed, which I think was absolutely glorious. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: loved it. I want people to see what it is
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: that you said and did and what you posted that
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: grabbed the president's, grabbed him in the middle of the night,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I think, and decided to repost this video. Here it is.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And in other news, a Fox News poll conducted in
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: September 2026 shows that 4% of registered voters identify Iran
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: slash war as the most important issue facing the country.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: And of course, as with most things in the US,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: it's being weaponised against Trump. They're using it to demonstrate
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: as evidence that people don't support this action or that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Trump got it wrong when he made that decision. It
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: is the complete opposite. So sorry to have to point
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: out the bleeding obvious. This actually helps the Trump administration.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Do you want to know why?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Trump hadn't acted, if he had
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: done what every president prior to him had done, which
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: is to make this the next person's problem, his children's problem?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: It would be something like 98% of Americans see this
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: war as the top issue. They see Iran as the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: top threat. But they don't have to. Because Trump acted.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: He eliminated the threat. They were days away from being
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: able to build a nuclear weapon. They killed tens of
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: thousands of their own people with guns, their own people.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Imagine what they could do to a country like America
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: with a nuclear weapon. So this is actually a great
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: poll for Trump and his administration.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: What this says is, hey.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: America, you don't have to have Iran as the top
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: of your list of worries because I dealt with it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I sorted it. I got rid of the threat.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: If he hadn't have gotten rid of the threat, people
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in America would be living in fear right now.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: From a nuclear attack.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: So, sorry, this actually speaks volumes. This is the gift,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: this is the job of a president to take care
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of this stuff so everyday Americans don't have to stay
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: awake at night thinking about Iran and what.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: It's going to do with the nuclear weapon.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So isn't this wonderful, a wonderful testament to what Trump did,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: is the fact that Americans don't have to have the
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Islamic regime of Iran as the top thing they're worried
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: about right now.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: That backs up what he did, not the opposite.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: It's evidence for the action to eliminate the threat, not
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: evidence that it should never have occurred.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: It's very obvious to me. It should be to you too.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Aaron, you know, that getting spread by the President of
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the United States. First of all, what I see in
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: your face as you're doing that, when I saw it,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I knew that it was great. I didn't read Truth It,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so I'm an idiot. The President beat me to it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But what I see in your face is sort of
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the realization that I get most days. When I finally
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: get a topic and I'm like, wait a second, not
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: only is this what this is, everybody else is wrong
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: about it. I can see that sort of you're almost
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: on a different level now going, wow, let me tell
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you what I just saw.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I love that you said that, Joe, and that was
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: my process.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: When I saw it, I kept seeing these takes on
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: it as though this meant that Trump had made the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: wrong call or this meant that. that in some way,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: shape or form, this was going to be weaponised against
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: him and this meant that Americans, that he'd failed in
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: all but ridding the Islamic regime of Iran of its
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapon program. But in my mind it was the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: complete opposite. I thought, wait a minute, if Americans don't
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: have this as front of mind, then that means that
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: he's doing his job. What he has to do is
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the hard stuff so that everyday Americans are can focus
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: on the other things that actually matter.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: And it just struck me. And I went, wait a minute,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: you're looking at this completely wrong.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean I'm not taking away from the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: fact that I'm not criticizing Americans for the fact that
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it's not front of mind. There's a reason it's not
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: front of mind, because they trust their president to take
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: care of it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that poll said exactly what you said it said.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: The president retweeted me a couple of times back in
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the day when Twitter was Twitter. And I think overnight
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: on each occasion, I got 17, 20,000 new followers overnight.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: When he does something like that, what is the response?
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You're probably going to get a tiny bit of hate. Oh,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you're a Zionist, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But at the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: same time, there has to be overwhelming positives that come
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Well, look, the reaction from people was incredible. I got
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: lots of messages from people congratulating me.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: It was amazing.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Of course, you get all the hate. Oh, this is
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: not a badge of honor. He's this, he's that.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Whatever, whatever.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I couldn't care less. But Joe, like he didn't repost me.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: So I wasn't actually there. He didn't tag me.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: So my followers kind of happened.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: That's true. He just stole your video and posted it, right?
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: He stole my content.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: So I've actually got a legal letter in at the
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: moment for a copyright breach.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, you don't.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: So I did not get a bump that I know
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: of anywhere. But I tell you what, I got a
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot of clout. My ego got boosted.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I felt immensely proud. And I tell you what else
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I'm doing now is using it to try and get
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: other interviews.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Mr. Rubio.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Have you seen this?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: And, you know, that's what it does.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And what it does, it validates a lot of hard work,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: which doesn't often give you immediate wins. As you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: it's a slog doing this work, particularly when you're not
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: saying what all the mainstream media is saying, particularly when
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you're going against the grain.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And this was a little win for me in ways
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that mean the world.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So very proud.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Well, it was actually a very, very big win. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: in the job that we do, we get a lot
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: of losses before we get sort of the one big
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: boost that says what you're doing matters and people are
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: learning from it and world leaders are noticing it. And
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: people should notice you for sure. Go and follow Erin
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: underscore Mullen over on her page. My page is at
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Joe Paggs. I've made a playlist on my page called
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Pags and Molen. Is that going to be the final title?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I have no idea if that's the final title of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: this thing.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Look, I like it. I think it's simple. The point,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: it's easy to find.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And, look, I think what we produce is so brilliant
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: that our name can be very average, and.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. So it is. It's average because
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: PAGS is first. But go and follow the playlist. Go
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: like and share everything Erin does. Like and share what
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I do as well. And if you like what we're
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: laying down, we are also open to topic ideas. Like
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: we've had it. We've had something called Lost in Translation
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the past two. We don't have one for this week,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: but if you've got something where you'd like to say, well, Erin,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: where are you on this? And Pax, why is that
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: so different from you? We're open to hearing all of that. Erin,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you're amazing. Another incredible show this week. Thank you.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Joe, I love you. You're phenomenal. America is so lucky
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: to have you. And so am I. So I can't
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: wait for next week and give us some suggestions. We
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: love hearing from you guys.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Make that happen. All right. Another one to drop next week.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: We'll see you then.