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110 True Paranormal Testimony: Guardian Angel, Strange Deer & More · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the igubiter podcast episode when one mister
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  Speaker 1: Robert Chinchilla. Robert reached out to me over at my
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  Speaker 1: Gmail account, which is Theiagubrater podcast at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, reach out to me if you have some stories,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to come on the show and share me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, paranormal, you know, bigfoot, any kind of craziness
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  Speaker 1: you know that you've experienced in your life. This is
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  Speaker 1: the place to go. You won't feel judged, and you'll
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  Speaker 1: have a good time, and I promise you would probably
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  Speaker 1: be a very cathartic experience coming on and speaking with
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  Speaker 1: me about these situations that you've experienced. Once again, you
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  Speaker 1: can do over at the igribrat podcast at gmail dot com. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So Robert came on and he started telling me his
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  Speaker 1: whole life story about all the things he's experienced in
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  Speaker 1: his life, whether it be a strange year. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: afraid of him. And when he actually fired his arrow,
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  Speaker 1: Adam that I went up ninety agrees in the air.
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  Speaker 1: It's like whatever, you know, like three foot before, it's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna hit. No, it was, there was nothing in
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  Speaker 1: the way. Just the strangest thing I've ever heard, and
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  Speaker 1: many many other stories included in his and his testimony
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  Speaker 1: to me better said his life story. Thank you Robert
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  Speaker 1: and I really hope you enjoyed this episode with mister
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  Speaker 1: Robert Chinchilla. Hello, sir Audi, al Right, so you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be So I found out there's someone talking in the
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  Speaker 1: background and it is actually your parrots. So that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Guess my parod he's a yellow crowned Amazon. He's forty
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  Speaker 2: two years old. I've known him since he's three days old.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. I actually at one point in my life I
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  Speaker 1: had two of them. They were Meadia Amazons Mealy the
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  Speaker 1: larger ones. Uh, they didn't talk as much. One flew
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  Speaker 1: away and the other one got a Uh. They're really
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  Speaker 1: susceptible to like chess colds or what do you call
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  Speaker 1: it airway infections? And we didn't know it and she
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  Speaker 1: just killed yeah, or like also, you can't give them
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  Speaker 1: peanuts and stuff because it has that it was like
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  Speaker 1: a fungus inside of them. And I this is no joke.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I cried for two days.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: She was awesome and there are there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work, but uh, they're they're they're awesome too. They
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  Speaker 1: had their own little personality zone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That that uh, the one, the one story at the end,
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  Speaker 4: the one story.
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  Speaker 2: My wife said that if I died, she was going
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  Speaker 2: to give my parrot away to Parrot Mountain. I'm down
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  Speaker 2: here in Tennessee, ok. Tour, It's all tours. I'm like
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  Speaker 2: in the Smoke Mountains. But she says if she says,
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  Speaker 2: if if you die, I'm going to give your parrot away,
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  Speaker 2: And I said, you do that, I'm gonna come back
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  Speaker 2: and haunt you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I suggest that she doesn't do that. So Robert,
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  Speaker 1: you reached out to me. You said you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: come talk to me and tell me a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about yourself and where all this begins for you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I was born in Chicago in nineteen and fifty four,
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  Speaker 2: not like Paul Butterfield nineteen or forty nine, if you.
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  Speaker 1: Send me or my father was born fifty four, that's a.
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  Speaker 2: Paul Butterfield song. I don't know if you know Paul Butterfield.
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  Speaker 2: I was born in Chicago in nineteen and forty nine.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: My mother told me, son, you had better get a gun.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, No, born in Chicago, raised up in the
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  Speaker 2: suburbs of Chicago, and so that's started out. I started
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  Speaker 2: out after I got out of high school. I started
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  Speaker 2: parent office equipment, and then later in life, I went
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  Speaker 2: into plumbing. And I had a guy tell me when
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  Speaker 2: I first started. He says, plumbing is a life sentence
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  Speaker 2: plus ten. And I laughed at him. I said, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you only got a couple of years to retire, and
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  Speaker 2: he says, few, I'm only forty five. I'm like, holy cow,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in trouble. So anyway, so when I started out,
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  Speaker 2: once I got out of high school. So I got
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  Speaker 2: out of high school in seventy two, so this is
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  Speaker 2: about nineteen seventy four. I was I started working at
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  Speaker 2: a machine shop, but with a buddy of mine, and
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  Speaker 2: there was one guy to work there. He had a
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  Speaker 2: resort up in Ray, Minnesota, on Lake Cabatogama. So we
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  Speaker 2: go up there to go fishing and soda. One day,
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  Speaker 2: he says, is is there any kind of fish you
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  Speaker 2: want to catch? I said, yeah, I'd like to catch
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  Speaker 2: a sturgeon. I never caught a sturgeon. He says, well,
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  Speaker 2: we could take get the Sturgeon Falls for a fishing
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  Speaker 2: trip up there, and I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 4: So we had there.
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  Speaker 2: Was four of us. There was the two guys I
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  Speaker 2: was with and his name was Charlie. And we take off.
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  Speaker 2: We're in Lake Kabatokoma. It was overcast day and we
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  Speaker 2: so we go from Lake Kabatogama to Namakin Lake and
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  Speaker 2: we get out in Namakin Lake and the weather change
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  Speaker 2: and we had eight foot plus waves and we're boats.
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  Speaker 2: One's a sixteen foot lund and the other ones at
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  Speaker 2: seventeen foot burowcraft.
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  Speaker 1: So one is normally a flat bottom boat, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're v bottoms, but they're small. There's just small boats.
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  Speaker 2: So we were getting you'd get out on the motor,
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  Speaker 2: you'd go up the wave, and the motor was like
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  Speaker 2: it wanted to die when it got to the top,
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  Speaker 2: and you could look down and you could see the
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  Speaker 2: water way down there. And then once you got to
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  Speaker 2: the crest of the wayman, then you went down, it
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  Speaker 2: picked up speed and you got to the bottom and
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  Speaker 2: all you saw was water, two walls of water alongside you.
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  Speaker 1: Damn.
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  Speaker 4: So we get up to uh, we get up to.
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  Speaker 2: We're going and going, and finally we hit the Namakan
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  Speaker 2: River and we get to, uh, the first set of rapids,
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  Speaker 2: we gotta go up. We go up on no problem.
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  Speaker 2: We get to the second set of rapids to go up,
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  Speaker 2: and Charlie and my one friend was in one boat
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  Speaker 2: and I was with my mother. Buddy and me were
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  Speaker 2: in the other boat. Mother buddy was driving the boat.
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  Speaker 2: Then and uh so he uh we he goes through
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  Speaker 2: the second set of rapids and it's our turn. We
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  Speaker 2: break the sheer pin on the prop right, so we
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  Speaker 2: all had to come back down. And then we uh
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  Speaker 2: we got up to we got up to the third set.
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  Speaker 2: But the third set was like a waterfall. It was
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  Speaker 2: like three feet higher than the water that was there. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so we get there and so Charlie in the boat,
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  Speaker 2: he says, he tries to. He says, he looked all
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  Speaker 2: across the river. He says, well, this is the only
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  Speaker 2: spot we can get up. So he goes and he
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  Speaker 2: tries to make it up and he can't make it up.
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  Speaker 2: So he said, I'm going to go back and hit
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  Speaker 2: it full force and go up. He said, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to shoot up the middle. So he does that and
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  Speaker 2: there's a big boulder in the center there and he
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  Speaker 2: hits this boulder and the water spreads and you can
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  Speaker 2: see all these different colored paints on this boulder from boats.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't it right on the stern like this? And it
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  Speaker 2: comes back and it turns and then it comes back down.
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  Speaker 2: And I told my buddy that the boat I was in,
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  Speaker 2: I says, I am not going up these rapits because
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  Speaker 2: we had the tent, we had all the fishing gear,
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  Speaker 2: we had everything in this boat. So we decide, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to fish here and then we'll just camp
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  Speaker 2: here for the night. You know, we'll find a place
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  Speaker 2: to camp. So we pull off into this weed bed
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't want to fish after going through you know, everything,
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  Speaker 2: the rapits and all this stuff, I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to fish. I was just sitting in the
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  Speaker 2: boat and we're sitting up against this weed bed and
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  Speaker 2: I look over and I see a stump in the
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  Speaker 2: weed bed, and I'm like, what the heck And I look,
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  Speaker 2: I says, stumps don't have eyes. The head on the
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  Speaker 2: snapping turtle was this big around. I've never seen such
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  Speaker 2: a huge snapping turtle. And me like a dummy, I says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to snag this thing. I'll never get.
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  Speaker 1: The things we did when we were younger, So I
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  Speaker 1: take it.
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  Speaker 2: I got my I got my pull all set up,
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  Speaker 2: I got a trouble hook on there, and I got it,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just going real slow and slow and slow.
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  Speaker 2: I get it over his head and then it went
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  Speaker 2: under the water. So we're done fishing for today. We
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  Speaker 2: had fish. So it was getting towards evening and we
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  Speaker 2: go and we find a place to you know, to
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  Speaker 2: pitch the tent, and the shore was real rocky.
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  Speaker 4: So we made dinner and we.
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  Speaker 2: Took the fish guts and we just threw them on
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  Speaker 2: the shore there, you know. And Charlie, he was the
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  Speaker 2: guy from the resort, friend front of the resort. He says, well,
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  Speaker 2: they got beers here. He got to be careful. So
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  Speaker 2: Charlie and another guy, the other buddy, they go to
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  Speaker 2: sleep because they're exhausted.
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  Speaker 4: And me and my other friend are sitting there by the.
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  Speaker 2: Fire and the uh he's like chopping wood and we're
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  Speaker 2: just standing or we're sitting there, and I'm hearing noises.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, that might be a bear.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I kept hearing noises and I'd stop and
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  Speaker 2: I turn and I look and nothing, you know. So
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  Speaker 2: finally we put the fire out and we go to sleep,
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  Speaker 2: and we're in the tent and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: there's this musky smell, I mean, really bad. And Charlie,
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  Speaker 2: whose tent was, He's like, oh that damn Chris, that
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  Speaker 2: was the son. He says, I'm gonna have to give him. Hell.
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  Speaker 2: He put this tent away moldy, right, And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't smell molding when we first got in here.
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  Speaker 2: Why is it smelling moldy now? Right. So we're sitting
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  Speaker 2: there or we're sleeping, we're actually sleeping, and we hear
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  Speaker 2: the splash that was like somebody took a huge boulder
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  Speaker 2: and threw it off a second story, second story. It
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  Speaker 2: was the deepest splash I ever heard. And the one
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  Speaker 2: guy that my one buddy that was.
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  Speaker 4: Next to me.
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  Speaker 2: He sits up. He says, what was that? And Charlie says, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that was just a beaver go to sleep, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, if that's a beaver, I sure
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  Speaker 2: don't want to mess with that son of a gun.
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  Speaker 2: So the next morning, after we got up, I says, hey, Charlie,
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  Speaker 2: I says, what was that?
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  Speaker 4: He says, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: I was scared as hell. And he's he's like camped
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  Speaker 2: and fished and everything up there, you know, so he's
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  Speaker 2: he's pretty seasoned to that area. And he says, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what it was, but I'm sure it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to tell him that I was scared, or we
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  Speaker 2: would have never got any sleep, right, So we uh
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  Speaker 2: So that that was the first I believe it was
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  Speaker 2: a bigfoot because we had to smell and we had
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  Speaker 2: the rock throne. But this is like nineteen seventy four,
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  Speaker 2: so it was like, you never heard any of that stuff,
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  Speaker 2: not like now where you hear all these stories, you
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  Speaker 2: know this and that and whatever. So anyway that makes
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  Speaker 2: sense makes sense. Well, the trip back was uneventful. So
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  Speaker 2: my next story is when I first got out of
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  Speaker 2: high school, I used to fix office equipment. So I
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  Speaker 2: basically fixed a lot of typewriters, adding machines, calculators, copiers,
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  Speaker 2: once in a while the cash register.
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  Speaker 4: So my territory was always the suburbs.
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  Speaker 2: I would drive like maybe thirty thousand miles a year
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  Speaker 2: just going from place to place to place. I never
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  Speaker 2: wanted to drive anywhere because, like if we went out,
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  Speaker 2: like me and my wife went out somewhere, she drove
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't want to drive it. Yeah, well, they
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  Speaker 2: sent me downtown Chicago, and I'm on State Street. State
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  Speaker 2: Street is the main street that runs through Chicago. So
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  Speaker 2: back in the seventies, they when all those malls were
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  Speaker 2: going on, they closed down.
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  Speaker 4: They closed down.
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  Speaker 2: The street. So the only thing that really ran on
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  Speaker 2: there was buses. And in Chicago all the cross streets
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  Speaker 2: are one way. So anyway, I'm standing. I'm standing and
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  Speaker 2: waiting for the light on the curb, and the curb
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  Speaker 2: is real high. It's like a ten to twelve inch
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  Speaker 2: high curb. And the light turns green. And what happened
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  Speaker 2: was there was a bus coming up the side street.
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  Speaker 4: He blew the light.
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  Speaker 2: He should have stopped, but he continued going. I stepped
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  Speaker 2: off the curb, and I turned and I looked, and
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  Speaker 2: I saw the bus like eight feet eight feet from me,
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  Speaker 2: and there was no way I was getting back on
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  Speaker 2: the curb. And I said, I said to myself, I'm dead.
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  Speaker 2: That's I looked. I says, I'm dead because the bus
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  Speaker 2: was flying. And the next thing I know that what
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  Speaker 2: happened was I felt a hand. It felt like a
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  Speaker 2: hand on my shoulder, grabbed me and pulled me back
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  Speaker 2: up on the curb. Now, I used to weigh about
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty pounds, and I had my toolkit
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  Speaker 2: was about ten pounds with all the stuff in there,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm figuring like just under two hundred pounds. So
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  Speaker 2: if I grabbed you by the shoulder, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: get clothes. You know, I'm gonna get your shirt or
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  Speaker 2: jack or whatever you have. Right, that didn't happen. It
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  Speaker 2: was a hand on the shoulder and just picked me
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  Speaker 2: back up onto the onto the curb. And I turned
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  Speaker 2: around to thank the person, and there was nobody there. Nobody,
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  Speaker 2: And I turned and I looked at the people because
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  Speaker 2: there was probably about twenty people waiting cross, and there
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  Speaker 2: was people on the other side of waiting across. And
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  Speaker 2: I turned and look, and everybody was like frozen, looking ahead,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody said, uh, nobody said oh, be careful or
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  Speaker 2: that was a stupid move or not. Nobody said anything
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  Speaker 2: to me, And all of a sudden, they just crossed
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  Speaker 2: the street and the people came the other way, and
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  Speaker 2: I was standing there. I'm like, what the hell just happened?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and shock Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Guardian Angel, I don't know, but there was there was
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  Speaker 2: no way I would have been able to get back
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  Speaker 2: up on that curve if I heard around him.
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  Speaker 1: That's a step this high. Yeah, someone to.
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  Speaker 2: Actually be like stepping off the curb, stepping on to
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  Speaker 2: the first step of the bus. It was about even right, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so that's how the herd was. So I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you went back up, you didn't feel anything
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  Speaker 1: like pool you on your shirt. It actually just kind
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  Speaker 1: of grabbed you and just kind of I have.
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  Speaker 2: My shoulder like like stuff of grabbed the shoulder and
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  Speaker 2: just pulled the whole body up.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's why I recently had something happen here in Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here in the corner getting some uh some some
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  Speaker 1: beer with my lady, and uh, I gave her my
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  Speaker 1: wallet and they go ahead and pay for it and
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  Speaker 1: put it back interchange and put it back on my pants.
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  Speaker 1: So she's pulled. She pulls my alet out. She's looking
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  Speaker 1: through and I'm looking into the store talking to the
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  Speaker 1: people and something. Robert came up and pulled on the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of my shirt twice, like two little pools. Right
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  Speaker 1: there was a guy standing to the right of me
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  Speaker 1: about I don't know, four feet away. He's too far away.
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  Speaker 1: I looked at her. She still got both of her
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  Speaker 1: hands on the wallet. Nothing there. I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 1: It's just the weirdest thing. Sometimes, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: that is.
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  Speaker 4: I had.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Once I got I was like I was a union
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  Speaker 2: plumber and they had nice courses, and so they had
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  Speaker 2: a welding course, and I decided, Okay, I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 2: a welding course because I hadn't welded.
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  Speaker 4: In a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Just refreshing, really bad. I'm putting down bad welds. I'm
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  Speaker 2: like son of a gun. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: I started welding really good. And uh, I feel somebody
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  Speaker 2: gave me a shot to the iron, like good job,
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  Speaker 2: or yeah, you're doing it, you know how?
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  Speaker 1: You know how? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought it was the instructor. So it
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  Speaker 2: was like they were like block rooms and then you
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  Speaker 2: had those plastic strips on there they were. So I
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  Speaker 2: pull out my helmet and I looked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went to welding school. You mean
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  Speaker 1: like the locker room with the metal table, Yeah, with
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  Speaker 1: the exhaust and then behind the plastics. And if someone
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  Speaker 1: happens looking and will get the you know, the.
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  Speaker 2: Arc fight, they don't catch the arm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So so I'll like, okay, so I turn and
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  Speaker 2: look and it was you know, it was. It just
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  Speaker 2: hit me in the arm. And I turned a look
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  Speaker 2: and the plastics not moving, that's right. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what the heck was that? What were you doing?
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  Speaker 1: What kind of welding?
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  Speaker 2: Were you just regular stick welding? I was just stick welding.
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  Speaker 2: So after that, I asked an instructor. I said, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I said, uh, you weren't in a room where He
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  Speaker 2: says no, he says, nobody was in there. He says,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: does anybody say anything about this place being haunted? He
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: says no. He says, we never ever got a report here,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: any any kind of hauntings here. I'm like, okay, So uh,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: after that we got married, and then we were me
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: and my wife were living in a suburb of Chicago.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: It's like it borders Chicago. So we had, uh, we
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: had a bunch of strange stuff happened there where it
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: was like a too flat if you don't know what
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: a too flat is. It was like two apartments, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you have the whole floor, and then you had somebody
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: up above you. And then we had a basement, so
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: uh the uh You'd be down in the basement and
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you'd hear keys jingling in the door, somebody walk across
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the floor, and my wife would think I was coming home,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: or same thing if I was in the basement because
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: we had a washer and dryer down there. I said, okay,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: my wife's home and you come upstairs and her being
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: nobody there. Yeah, that was the weird thing. And then
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: we had the one time and we had a light
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: switch just turned on by itself in the bedroom while
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: we're sitting watching TV. And then the scariest thing we
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: had there was we were sleeping and my mom bought
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: me this blue long sleeve shirt and my wife wakes
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: up and she sees the shirt standing there all filled out,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: oh like, and she she gets outscited, and she said
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: she couldn't speak. She was hitting me, you know, like,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, and then I finally
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: wake up and she tells me the story. So what
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: made you think, my wife? She threw out the shirt.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what made you want to come on and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: talk to me today? I just want to get this
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: off your chest.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Well I got, I got, I got a couple of
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: big foot stories.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just wanted to know the reason why? What?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: What?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: What? What made you want to come forward and talk
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to me?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Because I get so mad. I had I had the
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: one big foot story and the people tell me that,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: oh you saw you heard a dog, or you heard
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a raccoon or you know, it's like, I'll tell you
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: that story. So we had we from there. We bought
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: another building and we were renting there and she wanted
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a dog, so we got a Yorkie okay mail Yorkie.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: And I'd come home from work. At that time, I
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: was doing plumbing, you know, and then you were construction,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: so you know your beat at the end of your beat.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So I'd lay on the sofa and I'd listen to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the TV and the dog would sleep with me on
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the sofa, and my wife was working. She worked in
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: an office, so it was like our house was in
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the middle of the block and we had Ali behind
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the house with the garage and the This dog knew
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: when she was coming home before she even hit the Ali.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: He would get so excited and he'd get me to
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the back door and I'd be like, take him out
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: in the yard. I'm like, what's going on, There's nothing happening.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, I'd see my wife come.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: This dog. He was amazing.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: So we had.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So after that we bought I bought a like a farm,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and I had we lived in this branch that the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: uh the owner's husband or well the husband the owners.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: He died in the bedroom, okay, and our dog would
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: sit on the bed and look up at the ceiling.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: The same dog. And we we had downstairs. He had
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: a workshop where he had like a wood shop where
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: he'd do wood stuff, and there was shelves there, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: every time I went down in that workshop, the dog
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: would chase me out of there. He did not want
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: me down in that workshop. And he'd stare up at
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the shelves like there's something there.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, I can do that man, they can do that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: People don't realize that they have that sense. I mean
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I had a dog too, that would You just have
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to get close to the house, you know, my ex
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: wife get close to the house and he knew she's there,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and you would go back to start barking at the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: front door. I'd open it up and what's going on
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and she would pull right up. They do it. It
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: happens a lot. It's the vibration of the car too,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: like they're used to it. They they can throw them
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: in there and take them to the park or whatever.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: They get used to it. They know it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So this My wife used to go well, she liked
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: to go to psychics and the one I'd go with too,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And the one psychic told me that this place we
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: were at we had Indian spirits around us, and we
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: had my wife, my sister, and a friend all three
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: different times. So somebody walk up to the front door
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: wearing a hat, a guy and there would be nobody there.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: When we first moved out there, my wife took the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: dog outside in the middle of the night, three am
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and she's out there and clears the bell. She hears hello,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and we're out in the country. Here's nobody out there.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's so spooky, dude.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, she picks the dog up and she
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: runs in the house.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: That's scarier than seeing it. I'd rather see the dude
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: walking than they hear someone do it. Hello. That is
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: it makes the hair on the back of my neck
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: stand up.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: There was the owners.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: The old owners had a dog, and I guess the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: wife didn't treat the dog, but she used to lock
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: it in the basement because all the trim on the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: basement door was all chewed up from the dog scratching
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: trying to get out. And my wife and her cousin
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: were downstairs in this one room and the previous owner
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: was a brick mason and he had like there was
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a fireplace down there, and it was built with brick
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that were from the last cobblestone street in Chicago.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: These bricks were fun.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So my wife and her cousin are downstairs and they
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: hear a russell and they look and they see a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: dog's tail, just a tail. It was beaten against some
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: plastic bags they had down there. Okay, yeah, both of
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: them saw and heard it. Okay, So the we had
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the neighbor gave me cats, you know, and being out
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: in the country, we'd lose these cats all the time.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I wasn't really a cat guy, but she gave me
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: four black cats. They were all brothers. And there was
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it was Whitey, Lefty Tiger. It was a black cat
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: with black stripes. It was really cool to see this
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: thing and shit pants.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Tell them make a left turn at the end there.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Well, had he had the poops, he had the poops
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: and uh the uh he would squat in in the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: in the uh litter box and then he'd get the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: poop all over the back of his fur. You know.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: So that's how where the name comes from.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Isy I like it though, I'm down.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: So But anyway, after they you know, they would disappear
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: or die or get hit on the road. We would
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: have people would say, oh, you're like in the garage
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: and in the barn and it says, oh, your cat
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: just ran out the garage or ran through the barn.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what color was it? And they they'd say
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: it was black. I'm like, nope, that's the ghost cat.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: People would see a black cat running around the property,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: which I know was a ghost because they would run
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and would just disappear.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't know where it went.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: And you've seen this too, yeah, okay.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And I I had at this property. I had about
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: thirteen cats that either got killed or disappeared. And there
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was a female mother cat that got killed on the road.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And in the cul de sac there was three three
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: little cat you know, kittens. So I brought him in.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I said, okay, all right, summer culver. H I named
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: him ed Ed and Eddie oh the old cartoon. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I know that. So the one cat got killed and
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: it actually we used to have collars on it and
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: tried to get under the garage store and it got
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: taught and it got choked.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: But anyway, when you'd opened the garage.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Door up like the service door, because it was an
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: attached garage, the cat would like run in the house.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You'd see it run past your legs. But it wasn't there.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: That was that was another cat that happened there. Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Soo, so your whole life has just been like one
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: little strange occurrence after another.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Can I asked your blood type? Do you know your
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: blood type? Roberty, I'm all positive.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: That was just like me, all right, I'm all.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Positive, which Yeah, I was.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I thought I might have been. I had a check
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Oh did you actually check into it? Okay, Because, as
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you know, the people with that rh negative thing that
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: seems to happen to him more. I'm also a positive
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and I've had a few run ins myself in life.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: But you seem it seems to be you and animals.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oddly enough.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: That's a that's an interesting little little thing that I'm
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: picking up here. Interesting.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I used to hunt when I when I lived in
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: let's see, when I lived in closer to Chicago, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: used to hunt the Displains Conservation Area. It's about fifty
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: miles south of Chicago. It's south through Route eighty. It's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: ten miles south of Joliet.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: It's it's the Splains River and.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: The kanka Kee River come together and they formed the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Illinois River, which runs to the Mississippi.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, So being in Illinois, you know there's a lot
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: of open land where it's just grass. So there's different
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: parking areas at this place. And I right the parking
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: area and then there was a gravel road and it
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: made a turn, and then it made a right turn,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and then it made further down and made another turn
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: and it went out towards the back of the property.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: But there was the one spot that I found. It
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: was stand in trees, maybe about twenty trees, and it
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: was like they were like in a circle, and it
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: was like a big empty field in the center of them.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: And one of the things was is everybody that would
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: hunt there would chase animals two different areas, and I
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: mean to this area, and then they would all run
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: in the property next door, which was now chemical. They
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: would go under the fence and they were safe in there,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: so nothing would bother them. So I used to ground
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: hunt that and I had the one time I'm standing
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: against the trees. A tree was down there and I'm
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: standing up against the tree, and I did not hear anything,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and I had a feeling something was watching me. I
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: turned around and on the other side of the tree
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: there's this huge buck looking at me, just look looking
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: at me. And I'm like, why isn't this thing afraid
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: of me? You know? And so I couldn't get a
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: shot at it because all the branches and everything were anyway.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I was bowhunting because you could only bow hunt there. Okay, okay,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: so it just walks away. And then another time I
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: was hunting in the same spot and uh, I'm on
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the ground. I'm standing there and the I see a
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: buck come come up. The trail does a script, rubs up,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: a tree walks right in front of me. I got
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a broad side shot twenty feet right and I pulled.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I pulled it back and I have it. You know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to shoot, and it looks at me and
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: we with the staring thing back and forth.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to release, you know.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, this flock of birds comes
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: over and he does one of these. He goes and
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: looks right back at me. I'm like, what the heck
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: is that that crazy? So I say, okay, I'm taking
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a shot. And I took the shot and I watched
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: my arrow. It was a beautiful shot, right for the
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: heart and lungs. He gets about three feet from the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: buck and it turns and goes straight up, and I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: was like, what the hell just happened?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, hold on, do.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: You remember you you remember that the four to one
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: one hunted? No?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I don't, No, I.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Don't where The guy says he was going to shoot
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: at elk and the bullets stopped.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't heard that one.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: There's David Pilate's for one. One the hunted and he
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: was taught he was in Montana, I think it was,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: and he shot at el and the bullets just stopped
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: in mid air.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So you're telling me you fired up this thing with
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a bow with a broad head and before it's about
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: to go how far away do you think it was
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: before it does this ninety degree before it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Just turned and went straight up. There was no branches,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: there was nothing in the way, the wind wasn't blowing.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, what the end after? I've never heard
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: after that happened? You know, with me moving everything, you
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: think the buck would run. No, it just walked away
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: like nothing happened. Okay, so that's two things that happened
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: in this spot.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: The third thing I decided, uh this place, you could
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: not h use any kind of tree stand that harmed
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: a tree. So I had to have a ladder stand.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: So you couldn't use like a climbing stand.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: No, oh wow, you.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Couldn't nothing that would hurt the tree.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: So you made like one of those kind of you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: just lean against the tree.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I bought one.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It was aluminum, and so I park in a parking
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: lot and Dow Chemicals on the right side, and it
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: was a moonless night.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, nothing, I mean it was dark, but I.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Knew where I was going because once that road made
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: a turn, I just kept going straight and everyone right
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: into the stand of trees. So I walked out there
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: without a flashlight, and I know there was nobody else
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: out there because there was no cars in the lot,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: and where I was at it would be a pretty
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: good hike for somebody to come in there. So I
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: get out there and it was a ladder stand. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: it was three pieces. It was like two ladder aluminum
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: ladder pieces you put together. Then the third piece was
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: like a platform, right, So what it had it had
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: two bars that come down and you had wing nuts.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: So okay, I get to two pieces together and I'm
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: doing the platform, and I got the flashlight and I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: got a small flashlight in my mouth, and I hear
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and I stopped, and I says, is that me? You know?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And I look and I look around. I look around
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and like, okay, I says, that sounds like some guy
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: with emphasem or some old guy. So I'm looking wrong.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I don't see nothing. So I start doing it again,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and this time I hear it again, but louder, right,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the heck. I took the flashlight
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and shined it around, looking for eyes, shine everywhere, up
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in the trees, all around.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I started working again and I hear it
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: again and I'm like, oh, that's what I did.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I went and I grabbed an arrow out of my out.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Of the quiver, and I like it down next to
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: me because what I had my knife was a folding
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: it was a hunting knife, but it was a knife.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I had a short laid on there. I'm figuring, well,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: something's coming at me. I'm going to try to stab
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: it with a with a with a broadhead, you know, right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Well the third time I hear it the third time, right,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and I get.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Stand stand, you know, I get it all together. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: throw it up against the tree.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't even strap it, and I went up there
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and I shine that flash you know.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I ran up there with the bow I.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Had my I had the the arrow knock and I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: was like, if anything's here, I'm going to shoot it. Nothing.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Didn't see a damn thing, And what what pissed me
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: off as people were like, oh, it was a coyote,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: or it was a dog, or it was a raccoon
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and heat. He's like, no, no, you know, you when
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you hear something that loud and that deep, it's like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, how long? How how many years
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you've been hunging Robert up until this point?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Long time? But another thing too is when you hunt.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Hunters have all kinds of stories because they see things that,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you know, people don't believe you, Like like my uncle
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: told me one time he saw a grouse stalk in
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: a fox down the trail, you know.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: And you tell people, you tell people.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Things and they're like, oh, you're full boloney, you know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: So it was like this is in the seventies, so
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you know, you didn't know that much about Bigfoot that
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and now it was all these dog men. It might
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: have been a dog man, but I never saw anything.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: We're sitting I was watching the Bigfoot program and I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: sent with my wife and she hears the uh uh
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: they're talking about Darth Vader breathing, breathing, and she turns
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: to me, she says, you've been squatched. And I was
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: like some of them gone, you know. I just like
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: in the nineties or two thousands just come out and
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all those years that was probably a Bigfoot.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: But you know at the Bigfoot, like the stay where
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the water is and you have Cocky and the planes
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: coming in and making Illinois running all the way to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the Mississippi yep, you know, and there was campgrounds there,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: and there was hunting and they did duck hunting there,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: so there was all kinds of stuff.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Wow, that would be I don't know if I could
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: even do that. I think once I heard that, I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: would just put pack my stuff up and go. Man,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know how the hell you just went up
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: in the tree? Did you stay? Did you?
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I couldn't wait for it to get the light.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I kept. I didn't want to walk back. I'm elevated.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I can at least see now I got you.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, uh the uh.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: That was He's got his notes here, all right, Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Just I wrote down a bunch of stuff here.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I got two more stories.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So we moved down to Tennessee, Okay, because
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: I retired and we moved down to Tennessee and we're
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: living down here, so.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Not far from Colhoun Daniel Calhoun. Oh okaya, so either
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Harley too, Harley Owens met up with those guys.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have him on again and I think
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: two days on Wednesday, I will be recording with him again.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, looking forward to that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: So, uh, this story is it's like coincidences that could
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: not happen.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: It had either had to be God or Guardian Angel.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: So about six months before, what happened to me was
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a my wife goes to CBS and she never shops
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: at CVS.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: You know, they s a phone.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Number and we had our old phone numbers from Illinois.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: So when they got the area code, you know, the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: lady was like, oh, that's where I'm from.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: We find out, to make the shorties story short, we
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: find out she was from the same town in Illinois
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: as we were, and we were in like this town
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: was called Hinckley.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: They're claiming the famous they were. The first Harlem Globetrotter
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: basketball game was played there. Okay, okay. She lived a
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: mile north of town and we lived a mile and
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: a half south of town, and we never met until
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: we came down here. So we got to be good friends.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: So about six months eight down the road, my wife
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: wants to go to Costco and get a TV because
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: she's got those Costco bucks or whatever they are. Okay, so, uh,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: she always has to stop for gas. So I'm out
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: there pumping gas, right and I get this pain in
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: my head. It felt like somebody put claws in and
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: it was tearing my head apart. It was so bad.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: And then it went to my neck, and then it
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: went to my shoulders, and when it hit my back,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn it, I'm having a heart attack.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Because her dad and my wife's dad never had chest pains.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: He had back pains.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: So so anyway.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: We live. We live in Dandridge, and we drove to
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Knox and it's about a forty five minute ride. Okay,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: So I kind of like crawled back to the truck
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and I told her to the We had a suburban,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and I says, take me.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: To the hospital.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I'm having a heart attack. So when you're sitting at
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: the pump, if you look like up the hill, that's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: where the hospital was, okay, right there. So we drive there,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I says, let me out in front. I'm going to
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: walk in, and the uh pull up to the emergency
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: center and it says Heart and Stroke center. I'm like, okay,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I'm in the right spot. I walk in and they
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I tell them I'm having a heart attack, I think.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: So I started ripping my clothes off, you know, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: they so that the heart specialist comes out and there
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: was a PA there, and so they take me for
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: a CT scan.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: And I'm a pretty good jokester.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I tell jokes all the time. So we're going so
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: they're taking me to get a CT scan, and I'm
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: telling the PA jokes, right, and so yeah, I could
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: sit here and tell the jokes all night. But yeah,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: so I'm telling jokes and uh so they take me
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: for the CT scan and in the meantime, the doctor
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: tells me, you know, after they look at the CT scan,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: they said, your A order you have three layers or
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: your A order two of them have dissected. You got
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: one layer hanging on. So he tells my wife kind
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: of primary says, most people what I have, most people
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: don't make it into the hospital. Wow, okay, so I'm there,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you know. I'm I'm like, I'm on the thing. I mean,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: we must have been there a half hour because he says, well,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: we're gonna. He says, we're going to Life Flet of
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Vanderbilt in Nashville because I don't have the equipment and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I don't have the staff here to do the operation.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: So we're waiting and waiting and waiting, and the PA
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: kept running outside to see if the helicopter was going
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: to come because it was like an overcast day, and
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the uh so, finally, yeah, this is the day before
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: my birthday of a Super Bowl Sunday.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: So, uh, you just had your birthday? Yeah, I had
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: mine yesterday.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's something funny too, coincidences. Check this out. You're
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: talking about CT scans and jokes. I just started a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: new podcast called The Cat Scan, and it's all about
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: being with me and one of my best friends in
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: the world comics who met in Germany, and all we
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: do is talk jokes and rip it up. And we
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: also talked about the Super Bowl halftime debacle and it's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: just life is weird. Bro.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you I have a new one that's
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: called the cat Scan, which is another word for the
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: sea Anti. So yeah, I don't know what's.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Going on, Robert, but that's just one of those things.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: This story. There's so many coincidences. It can't be luck.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: It can't.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: So they get me. They you know, they they get me.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Uh. They finally the helicopter shows up, so it needed
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: permission to fly. It couldn't take off because the weather
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: was bad. So it finally shows up about a half
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: hour on there, and they slided me into this helicopter
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: and I said to the paramedics, can I have a
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: window seat? And I told my body. He says, you
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: should have. You screwed up. You should have asked what
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the in flight movie was. So they slide me in
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: this thing. I felt like a pizza going into oven.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like six four and my feet almost touched the dashboard.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm with you.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: So I get in there and I asked the paramedic
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: how long is it to Nashville, you know, by helicopter.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: He says forty five minutes, and I'm like forty five
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: minutes already been here a half hour, now forty five minutes.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: So my wife comes up, you know, she kisses me
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: good bye, and she says, if you see a white light,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: don't go over there. And uh, yes you did. He says,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: if you die, I'm going to give your parrot Parrot Mountain,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: which is the uh it's like a tourist thing here
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: where they have all these parrots. Because we're we're in
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the foothills of the Smokies. We're right next to Pigeon
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Forge and Gatlin. We're right there, man, you're real close
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to Harley.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when when Actually, when we were in Severeville, we
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: were sitting out on the front porch one night. We
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: were three miles from Dolly's Wood Dollywood, and we heard
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: a big foot. My wife turns to me and she says,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: what's that bigfoot? And I'd want to say nothing, And
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you hear would you hear a roar or something?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, a long the bellow roar. And it was
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: like it couldn't have been a person. It couldn't have
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: been a recording because it was long, just a long roar.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm like the son of a gun. So oh so, anyway,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I forgot that part of My wife reminded me. The
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: surgeon comes back. This is in uh Noxville. He says,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: you're in luck. He says, I have a friend. It's
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: his day off. He'll he said, he'll do this. It's
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: his day off. He'll come in and do the surgery,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: he says, but he says for the follow up, you
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: can come back and see me, so you don't have
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: to go to Nashville. I'm like, okay, so.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so what are the.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Odds of that? So I ended up going to Saint Thomas. Okay,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: not on St. Thomas. So I the last thing I
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: remember was they're pushing me off the the uh uh.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: They're pushing me off the helicopter and there's this redhead
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: and she's pushing me in. I go, oh, noah, redhead,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I heard are wild and crazy and she says, you're
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: in trouble. There's two of us. So I told the
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: joker too in there, and then I my wife had
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: to go home because it was like she had to
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: take care of the dogs and the parrot and a
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff pat clothes, you know, because she was
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: going to be there for a few days. So by
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: the time she got back it was seven hours by
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the time she got there and end up and the
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: surgeon was just coming out of surgery and he told her, well,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: it uh is it'll be.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: The uh we don't know yet, but he said, what
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: was ending.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: We have to.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: They had to watch the kidney's and my brain because
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: because they took a hit. I'm like, okay, so anyway,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't remember anything about intensive care. But
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: when they took the breathing tub out of me, my
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: wife says, the first thing I did was tell a joke,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and she says, oh, his brain's okay.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I love the positive outlook.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm in the hospital, you know, and every every
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: every nurse to come in there, I tell him a
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: joke or whatever, you know. And then they got me
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: to the point where they make me walk every day.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I'd walk down the hallway and the nurses go, mister, joke,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: what's the joke today? So I had to think of
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: a joke and tell him a joke every day I
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: was in there. I was in there for four or
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: five days.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So uh.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: So that was Super Bowl Sunday. I'm in the room.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Oh another weird thing I forgot about this. I was
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep in the bread real well, and I
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: was I was always sitting in the cha so I
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: left the TV and I'd fall asleep and wake up,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: fall asleep and wake up.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: I woke up one time and.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: There's Larry King interviewing somebody, and I'm like, isn't he dead?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: What the hell's he doing with interviewing somebody. I thought
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I died, you know, I said, what is Larry King doing?
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: So?
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Uh, I had So anyway, it was like Monday. The
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: doctor comes in and he says, well, he said, he says, uh,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: the operation was seven hours. We replaced he says, we
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: replaced eight inches of your a order with gore tex
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: he says, and he says, yeah, for a minute, there
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: was touch and go, he says, because a minute into surgery,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: the third layer order A order burst. Damn. So I
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: was like son of a gun. So that the friend
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: that we're talking about, that we lived in the same town.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: She worked at CBS and she always work Fridays and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to come home Fridays, but she wasn't
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: scheduled for that day, so she ended up riding with
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: my wife so my wife wouldn't have to come by herself. Yeah,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: it was just like too many coincidences. So yeah, but
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: it was it was just uh but uh and then
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the last Okay, I'm here, I'm here in Tennessee now
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: and my neighbor walks over one day he says, uh, so,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: we have like our backyards. There's a gully behind our backyards,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: and then there's a big field behind us where they
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: had horses and mules and stuff on there. It comes
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: over one day he says, I saw something. I'm like,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: what did you see? He says, I don't know what
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: it was. I'm like, yeah, well, what it looked like?
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: He says it looked like a hyena. It had a
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: real long neck on it. It was on all fours.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: It went across our backyards and his wife saw too.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Know.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I saw something about small town monsters with the dog
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: man that one guy.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Said hyena looked like hyenas that I've heard this many times.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like He says he'd never seen anything
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: like it. He didn't know what it was. Now.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I was talking to a gentleman. He said he was
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: out there doing something one night and he's seen it
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and he freaked him out. It looked it was weird,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: but it looked like they had the face of a hyena.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: He was up the house sitting for somebody, and then
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: when the guy came back, he goes, hey, I didn't
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: know you guys had freaking hyaenas wherever he was summer's
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: in the Southwest, but he got a zoom near here
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: to something run away. He goes, we have a damn
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Hyaena's here. It's not the first time I've heard it.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I've heard this multiple times now. There's like at least
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: two to three different types of those that I've heard of. Yeah,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it seems like your whole life is
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: just when one of these weird little things, a lot
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: of little uh coincidences. And I got a few of
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: those stories too, where just things like like I'm telling
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you the jokes with the cats can that's weird to me.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I just heard that. You know why there's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: no prostitutes in Tennessee. Uh No, they're all volunteers. Volunteer
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: state ut is the volunteers.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got a bunch of jokes. I just
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't, I don't there's those are more
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: like dad jokes. I enjoy those. All My jokes are
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: very dark and twisted.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: If you want to, I got a bunch I can, like,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: somebody tells me a joke and that's like it reminds
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: me of two three other jokes I gotta tell I'm
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: just mad at me because I'll be in the story
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: and i'll talk. I'll be talking with somebody to start
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: telling jokes, and she's like, I've heard that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: One, you know, yeah, that one time I was with
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: my I was with my grandmother, she's a long past.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: We were at a circuit city in Baltimore, that's where
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm from. And you know how they have the greets
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: in Walmart to come in and at the circus city
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: to have the people that when.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: You go out, Yeah, it's an old Carlin joke.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: George Carlin is one of my heroes. And so I'm
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: with my grandma. She's in her seventies at the time.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like twenty something. And as they're leaving, the guy goes, hey,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: have a have a good one. I got already have
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: a good one. Now I'm looking for a longer one.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: And uh, yeah she left.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: For you heard he said, she thought.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: But really like the fish stories, Robert. It's been fantastic
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: talking to you man. So happy that you came on today.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, and thank you missus. Chinchilla. I'm sure,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's is that it that's a that's a.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: That's not your real name, is it?
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: It is? No kidding the little animal, the chinchilla. That's
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: interesting too.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: You want to hear that story.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: What that your that your parents are name? Okay?
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm I'm Slovak.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: My dad was Slovak. Okay. The name is like if
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: you say in a slovaks a roberta Okay. Went to
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Catholic school and nuns ask him what his name was
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: and he says chan Challa and they wrote chinchilla.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Well, half my family goes by kalas c.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I N C A l A and the other.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: That happened a lot in Rikers Island too. People will
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: come over and they would say their name. They'd be like,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: is this.
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: Now that national lampoon? Or do they do with the immigrants?
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: Remember national Lampoon? You don't remember that? The guy, the
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: guy has a real long Italian name. He says, what
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: kind of name is that for an American?
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: You're mc boom.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Anyway, then let's keep I'm happy to see you on
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the Lives once in a while. I know you were
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: on there. Uh sorry about last week, but the person
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: messed the times up. That's happened to me multiple times now.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank you missus Chinchilla for your
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: health today.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, watch every week, you know, so all right, yeah,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: she enjoyed.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: I can't get her.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: She she hates all the Bigfoot stuff and I watch,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: but she likes your show and she likes the the.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Ancient Enigma Files.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah she likes.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: She likes cohone too in the Magical.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Car, Magical Journey.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm thinking I'm glad you guys dig it. I
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it very much. And uh yeah, just you know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: you know, come on by, ask some questions, hang out, talk,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: we'll have a good time over there. I really appreciate
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the guy and all that kind of support is all that,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you know, just you know, you like it. That's cool
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: and that's what that's what we're here to do. So uh,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: thank you again, Robert. I appreciate it. All right, guys,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Remember we are the eye. We are aware. I love
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  Speaker 1: you all
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  Speaker 2: A to