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Vinyl Club: Shady Nasty's "Trek" · 78 Amped

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: Eatswab.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: Mate, you feelin' ash and fresh.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: XA.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, this place is fucking smashed us.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: Shout-out spanion.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we are on the Ipswich line today, Sam.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: Heading to vinyl club.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: The next station is vinyl club.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: This is an Ipswich train.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: Eatwight, I think this is our fucking stop A.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: The platform is on the right in the direction of travel.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, fuck, we gotta get off here, bruh.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Sam, this week you've given me a bit of homework.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it is in fact from Sydney's own Eshest Freshest Adelais.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Shady Nasty.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: The irony is I don't even think they're Shes.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: They're absolutely not.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, they're not.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: They're just like modded cars.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, they're just into their WRX, WRX shit.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you what, before I let you finish.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna let you finish.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing how a band that is so technically proficient in different genres only sing about modded cars.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: Modded cars or like your boy getting into a bit of bit of trouble with the coppers and stuff like that.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, this is Trek Sam by Shady Nasty that I'm reviewing.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: A lot is how I would classify this album.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: It is a lot.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: It is a lot, a lot going on.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: Much on.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: And there's only eight songs.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's eight songs, it's 21 minutes.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: And in that eight songs and 21 minutes, your brain a little bit melts down.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: It does.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: We said last week that Shady Nasty are probably one of the most slept-on bands in Australia.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're an acquired taste.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely an acquired taste.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because the listeners can't see.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: I was giving Sam the hesitant nod to being one of the most slept-on bands in Australia.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I'll get into detail in a moment.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they're slept on.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because Underground.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're definitely underground.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I think they're definitely I think they're slept on in terms of their musical ability, but in terms of the level of popularity, like I think there might be a a ceiling on this sound in terms of popularity.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that to me says that they're not slept on.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: But we'll get it, let's get into it.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the main this is an inaccessible album if you don't know what you're in for.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, as you mentioned yesterday, yesterday, excuse me, last week, uh, it is jazz meets punk meets post punk meets She Aussie rap meets about three other things.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: And when when you think that you might think, oh, they do a song that's like jazzy, then they do a song that's like post-punking.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's all at once.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's all at once.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think we said last week it's as if jazz musicians or classically trained jazz musicians liked Aussie rap and hardcore at the same time.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I've listened to bits of Shady Nazi here and there.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: I've never sat down and tried to listen to like an album or like an extended period of their songs.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I it it took me a long time to get into the groove of this.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: And by that I mean I think I don't even think I got into the groove.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think I had to get to a place where I just sort of let it happen where I wasn't trying to experience like uh anticipate what was next or what was happening, or like grasp onto any kind of song structure or anything like that.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's as well as being jazzy in in the instrumentation and the the chords and the progressions, it's jazzy in the way that there's not necessarily like a A B A B strong structure.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: There's not uh, you know, often there's not for a lot of these songs like a chorus necessarily.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: There might be like a refrain that comes up as like, you know, a theme like multiple times in the song, but I wouldn't say there's like chorus verse sort of setups.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's very um very postmodern in the way of like the the deconstruction of like genre and sound, and then finding musicality in each of the individual pieces and building something out of that, but not necessarily rebuilding it as a song.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like sorry, it is a song, but it's not rebuilding it in like a pop song structure, if that makes sense.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's super very post-modernist.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like these all of these pieces in in their own thing, each have a like a um like a signifier and like a sound and texture and genre meaning to their own.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then when you put them together, it kind of creates something new.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's very punky in the spirit of the genre, not necessarily in the the sound of the genre.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's that real, like yeah, like taking things that you know have musicality at their core and then but stripping them back to their bare bones and then building something from that.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like a yeah, it's the DIY punk approach without being four four blasty.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think the it's probably I think perfect that this album is 21 songs, 21 minutes and eight songs, because I think each song has like a like a musical idea that I think if they outstayed, if they overstayed that idea, these songs would kind of suck.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I think it's the fact that they do it, you're like, what is happening?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, by the time you kind of you just kind of get to grasp it and then it ends.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're not sitting there going, all right, I get it, let's move on.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think each song has a has a thing that they did and it's cool and it's interesting.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like some of them, like Hardstyle, the song that you were talking about uh as being your kind of entry in, there's really jazzy drumbeat over like shoe gaze, yeah, like guitars, or um hesitance has this kind of like scotch snap double vocal delivery, uh like rap thing, and it then like the most probably rocky punky guitar setup at the same time, or like screwdriver has this reverse looped affected guitar that's really off-putting and like unnerving in like a kind of horror way.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: They're all kind of weird and different and and strange, and that like I it's really hard to describe this album because each thing is so odd.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I found it was really really interesting that this album was produced by Kim Moyes of the Presets, because if you think of both the presets music, but also music that he's produced for other people, he's produced albums for DMAs, um, for a lot of of electronic acts, for a lot of rock acts, almost all the projects that he produces on.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: The pre the production is so lush and like full.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I think this album is not that, not because it's bad, not like full, like it's empty in like a like a negative sense.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's just as I said before, this is like deconstruction of the genre.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it would have been such an opposing musical project for someone like Kim Moyes to try and do because it's you're putting away a lot of the effects and a lot of the like reverb and and and choral vibe to it that is in a lot of those other projects, and just going, we're doing a jazz beat and a dissonant guitar track and a guy mumble rapping over the top of it and on paper, that could be horrendous.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think you can obviously tell that there's an immense amount of musical skill in this band, but I think at the same time as I said before, you just kind of stop the the best way to listen to this is to kind of just let it just wash over you.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would agree.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: It it's definitely an album and a band that you have to sit with for a long time and then eventually the ball either drops or it doesn't.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, Fred again's put on record that Shady Nasty's his favorite band of or favorite modern band or something.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was of the time or something, but yeah.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: Of the time, yeah, yeah.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: And that was with Derek G, actually.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Was it?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, Fred again, famously massive music nerd.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're a music nerd's favorite band.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I and that's that's part of interestingly enough, when I got to the end of this record, I listened to it in full once.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: I listened to a couple of like um hardstyle and screwdriver and a couple others a couple different times.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: When I got to the end of the full listen through, I said, I can't tell if I like this album or if I'm like intellectually interested in this album.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I certainly in like came away with a positive experience, but I couldn't tell if I liked like do I like this like I like going to the movies and watching a like a blockbuster?
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: Do I like this like I what like watching an art house film and being like that was weird and that it's making me think maybe I don't like you know, you know what I mean?
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's interesting you raised that because I think that's what drew me in because that was a big one.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: Never mind, I suppose.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um Hardstyle, as I said, was the song that got me in, and I was like, I really like this, and clearly they've teamed up with Ketima, they've teamed up with Fred again.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think I've I had this inkling that, like, okay, on the global stage, they're understood in some way, yeah, but it's hard to access this band.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I think part of me was like, that really interests me.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: But they're so inaccessible, and Australia doesn't really get it.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: But overseas, they're playing massive shows.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: They're DJing up on stage with Fred again.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: They're playing shows all over America.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: They're back in America now.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think they're gonna be a band that finds a lot of niche success.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then Australia will go, no, no, we got it the whole time.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: See, I don't even think that's the case.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: You don't think so?
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: I like let me caveat that by saying if they continue in this vein, yeah, if they were to release a far more accessible, straight up and down pop in the broad sense of the term album, absolutely.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think people will then get on board and be like, yeah, I've always liked them.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I think if you if you if if we just if we took Trek and expanded it out into a career, I think there isn't an accessibility gap if for this kind of music.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: There's definitely a um as I said before, like a ceiling.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's a world where they they could be very successful, but I think they would be very they'll they'll be a big f fish in a small pond in a in a musical sense because they're just I think and I I don't I'm not when I say something's inaccessible, I'm not I don't mean that in a negative sense.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think I just mean that in like a it's inaccessible to the general listener.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you this is not gonna there's never gonna be top 40 radio.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, this is probably not even really gonna be triple J radio.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's yeah, it's like this is for a niche group of people, and that's fine, that's great.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and that niche could be quite large, but I just think there's not gonna be the crossover appeal.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: I should say I think Shady Narcy's gonna be my most streamed artist of the year.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, okay, like Pretty Boys off their first album, yeah.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: I stream that song pretty much four times a day.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: Bangers.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um they are, yeah, like inaccessible shouldn't be a criticism because it's not.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: No, because in many ways, metal's inaccessible, dance music's inaccessible, yeah, country's inaccessible.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: It has been for the until all the girly pops got on board with it.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like any genre that's not radio friendly is technically inaccessible.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: And well, here's the thing, and this is this is what I on a personal level love about pop music and pop in in the the big broad sense, not like fucking Britney Spears.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: But pop music is so good at hearing pop pop producers and pop songwriters are so good at hearing something that is outside of pop, and then taking the thing from that that they that that they most last most latch onto.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like you think of a Fred again, where there are elements of Fred again's music where I'm like, this is not necessarily for me, but on a whole, his most accessible stuff is taking something like what's in a shady nasty track, yeah, and then producing that into something that is more accessible to a pop audience.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's why it works so well as like your favorite musician's favorite musician, because it's it's someone in that intermediary's ability to decipher something that is outside the the mainstream and bring elements of it in and make that accessible.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I think there'll probably be times when they're maybe featured on a track that is huge, or yeah, they sit adjacent, you know, they're supporting someone who's huge because they sit adjacent to that.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: But I think again, unless they the the sound changes, I think this style of music is is uh inaccessible.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'd say they're very similar in a they're sort of adjacent to the likes of Dommy and JD Beck.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because they're so extreme in the jazz fusion world.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like you and I listen to them and we're like, where the fuck is this time signature?
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know, but something about it intrigues us to the point that you know we want to go and see it live and experience.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's a music nerd's intuition that like they want to understand the complicated, understand why did you put these genres together and why do I yeah, why do I want to listen more?
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it sounds like your experience was confusion meets fascination.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's definitely fascinating.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: The other part of me is like this is certainly not the most out there music in terms of like there is there is there is jazz music, like quite well-known jazz music, quite well-beloved jazz music that is far more complex and inaccessible than this.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: This so this isn't I'm not saying this from a level of like of all types of music, this is inaccessible.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who is largely a pop consumer.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is fairly inaccessible.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think the thing to me that would make this inaccessible to someone who is, you know, a jazz aficionado is I think there's also a lot of you've got to be relatively well versed in hip-hop to understand a lot of this.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: You've got to be relatively well versed in not necessarily metal, but rockier bordering on punk and metal sound.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: So like alternative, yeah.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's bringing together three things that I think aren't necessarily always crossing over.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, even if you were to be like, I love this for the the jazzy drums, you may not like the mumble rap trappiness of the vocal at times.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: You have to like the combination, yeah.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you don't like the combination, you got no chance.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I will say that if you are listening and interested in you know, learning about or experiencing Trek.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know about you, but for me the standouts are hard style, yeah, easily the most accessible song on that album.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'd say Screwdriver's probably second.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting, okay.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Or Cadbra.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: I had Cardbra and IDWL, I don't want to lose, as my two most standout tracks.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think they're the most interesting song structurally normal songs.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to meet if you want to start somewhere, start with those two.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: But no, no, Screwdriver and Hardstyle also.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think Cadbra is definitely of all of them, probably the most.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: You listen to it and you're like, ah, like I I can understand the flow of this.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: It is full She Jazz, Cadbra.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: But it's sick.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is, it is good.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it's all it's it's so hard to describe this band.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: It it is.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: I would just urge people to go listen to it.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: You have to go and listen to it.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I got a special spot in my heart for G Shock as well.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yes, yes.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: In my car listening to G Shock, just like rapping.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it's like it's like idols meets one four meets like it's just they've got to be the most fascinating band in Australia.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say that.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're definitely the most fascinating band that are getting around at the moment.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: They're yeah, and then Pretty Boys off Club Smoke, their first album, just like that.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Is getting numbers in my playlist, yeah.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, yeah, an enjoyable enjoyable record, a a record I had a good time listening to on an unknown level.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it but that's the thing, yeah.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's how they get you, they draw you in, they're like, we're weird, but we think we have enough to like hook you, yeah.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then what'll happen is like you fall into the weirdness, and that's what I did.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I don't get it, but I'm intrigued.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then next minute you're like, I fucking love this.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, again, if you weren't listening, um, that was uh Shrek uh ever after, um, with a new Shrek 5 coming out soon.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Mike Myers, for that one uh by Shady Nasty.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Sam, I wanted to give you something, I wanted to give you a real palette cleanser off the back of Shady Nasty.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I've got uh the debut record from Brisbane's very own young Franco.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's Frankie Baby.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: This is such a fun, simple EDM house rooftop drinks album.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: And off the back of something challenging and odd, like shady Narcy, this will be such this will be, you know, vanilla ice cream, but in the best kind of way.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: A pallet cleanser.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: I thought he had Farrell on his Pirallel.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, parallel, yes.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Denzel.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh got car Carlo of Riton and Carlo fame.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, got Pelts.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Frank Murdy.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Frank Murdy, that's actually where I came across Frank Murdy was in this uh was in this record.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited to get a bit of a palate cleanse.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, so I think I don't know.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: You've you've been diving more and more into the world of EDM recently.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: I thought uh why not give him a little something to push that boat out a little bit?
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Hit me with it.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Final thoughts, Maxwell.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I picked up uh one or two records from my trip in Adelaide the other day, um, which might make a little Hey how are you doing?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Appearance on the show coming up.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Other than that, I've got uh a few on order.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: And uh how about you, Sam?
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Any final thoughts?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: None.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm trying to save money like a good little boy.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: At a boy.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Your bank saves you and thanks you, and Jesus saves.