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- 0:02Speaker 1: I'm a homegrowd that knows a little bit about everything
- 0:04Speaker 1: and everybody you don't know if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all,
- 0:09Speaker 1: what's up.
- 0:10Speaker 2: It's Lauren l Rosa and this is the latest with
- 0:13Speaker 2: Laura L Rosa. This is your DELI dig on all
- 0:16Speaker 2: things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
- 0:20Speaker 2: that shake the room.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Baby.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Now, today we are going to dive into an article.
- 0:25Speaker 1: That was honestly just released.
- 0:27Speaker 2: As I was heading here to the podcast, I saw
- 0:30Speaker 2: that this article was released and a major announcement about
- 0:33Speaker 2: this celebrity was released. So we're going to get into
- 0:36Speaker 2: all things nia Along today. And for those of you,
- 0:39Speaker 2: I mean, if you're listening to this podcast, I don't
- 0:41Speaker 2: know how you would be unfamiliar with nia Along. But
- 0:45Speaker 2: for those of you who are unfamiliar with nil honestly,
- 0:47Speaker 2: I don't even want to do that because if you
- 0:49Speaker 2: listen to this podcast and you're familiar with ni Along,
- 0:51Speaker 2: the rock you live under is not my problem.
- 0:53Speaker 1: We are not going to do that today. So nia Along, you.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Know, actress, you know, just man like nia Along is
- 1:03Speaker 2: literally when I think I just saying actress to me
- 1:07Speaker 2: is a is an underscore is an undersell. I think
- 1:10Speaker 2: when you talk about Nia Long and what her career
- 1:12Speaker 2: has been, Nia Long has been. I'll just speak for
- 1:15Speaker 2: me personally, like she is an actress, and you know,
- 1:19Speaker 2: I visually when I say actress, see all of the
- 1:23Speaker 2: roles that she has played on camera, from Boys in
- 1:26Speaker 2: the Hood to I mean even even like recent things
- 1:30Speaker 2: she's done, Like you know, there's a movie I forget
- 1:34Speaker 2: what is it called. It's it's about uh. I only
- 1:39Speaker 2: remember her name in the movie CC Bloom because my
- 1:41Speaker 2: best friend Sierra that's what her family calls her.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Hold on one second Beaches.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Yes, so from Boys in the Hood to I mean
- 1:50Speaker 2: fresh Prince of bel Air and of course Love Jones.
- 1:53Speaker 1: I mean it's Nia Along like Love Jones.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Like I just I literally just watched Beaches again on Netflix.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Ne Along remade the ninety I.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Think it was an eighty film, the eighty film Beaches,
- 2:06Speaker 2: and she played CC Boom in the film. But I mean,
- 2:10Speaker 2: I just think of her as a nineties culture like architect,
- 2:18Speaker 2: and I feel like with Neil Long and she talks
- 2:21Speaker 2: about it, We're going to get into an interview that
- 2:25Speaker 2: she did for The Cut magazine and the headline of
- 2:28Speaker 2: the article says, ne Along isn't romanticized in the past.
- 2:32Speaker 2: She'd rather live in the moment and lift up the
- 2:34Speaker 2: next generation in Hollywood. And you know, I just think
- 2:38Speaker 2: about everything that Nia Long like stood for right as
- 2:43Speaker 2: a black woman in television, just a woman, a powerful,
- 2:46Speaker 2: beautiful but like sexy, not afraid to say how she
- 2:51Speaker 2: feels and show a powerful woman in Hollywood. For me,
- 2:56Speaker 2: just watching her and I think about, you know, down
- 2:58Speaker 2: to They just announced that she is going to be
- 3:02Speaker 2: Este Lauder's first ever an ambassador for North America exclusively,
- 3:06Speaker 2: which means she'll get to do like TV deals and
- 3:09Speaker 2: her TV campaigns and digital campaigns and all the things
- 3:13Speaker 2: for the brand.
- 3:13Speaker 1: But I'm like, duh, Like Nia Long not only is.
- 3:17Speaker 2: A person that I watched on camera because she was
- 3:19Speaker 2: great at playing these characters in these roles and storytelling
- 3:23Speaker 2: and really just being the girl, you know, the girl
- 3:26Speaker 2: next door and the girl from around the way who
- 3:28Speaker 2: was so smart.
- 3:29Speaker 1: You know, I remember boys in the hood.
- 3:30Speaker 2: I always thought that it was so fire that like
- 3:33Speaker 2: she was the girl that was like beautiful and she
- 3:35Speaker 2: was like there and she's around, but she's headed to
- 3:38Speaker 2: college and her head is on straight and she's fly
- 3:40Speaker 2: and she's sexy, and you know, I think for a
- 3:43Speaker 2: lot of us, you know, for me as a black
- 3:45Speaker 2: woman looking at that on TV, it was like, okay, cool,
- 3:48Speaker 2: Like I'm growing up as a girl around the way,
- 3:50Speaker 2: but there's more to just my neighborhood. But it's also
- 3:54Speaker 2: okay for me to still be very intertwined and indulged
- 3:57Speaker 2: and engulfed in my neighborhood. But when it's and set away,
- 4:00Speaker 2: it's time to step away. But also just being I mean,
- 4:03Speaker 2: I don't know her beauty. To me, I'm like, duh
- 4:07Speaker 2: at Stay Louder and whoever else cover girl, all the brands, right,
- 4:11Speaker 2: But that came out today as well. So she did
- 4:13Speaker 2: this interview with The Cut and they talk about, you
- 4:16Speaker 2: know her and everything she's doing with Esday Louder, but
- 4:19Speaker 2: then they also get into just what being a woman
- 4:23Speaker 2: in her role.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Has meant for her.
- 4:27Speaker 2: So she's speaking with The Cut and they just starn't
- 4:29Speaker 2: really getting into her life.
- 4:30Speaker 1: And one of the things that is starting.
- 4:31Speaker 2: To go superviral already is one of the quotes from
- 4:37Speaker 2: a part of the interview. So this part of the
- 4:39Speaker 2: interview they're talking to today along about balancing work and love,
- 4:43Speaker 2: and she says, I don't think there's ever been a
- 4:45Speaker 2: time in my life where I was willing to give
- 4:47Speaker 2: up my life to be someone's wife or girlfriend ever period.
- 4:52Speaker 2: And then she laughs. She says, I don't care how
- 4:54Speaker 2: difficult the journey has been. I think you can have both.
- 4:57Speaker 2: And she's talking about the love and the career, which
- 5:00Speaker 2: has always been a conversation, especially you know, I mean
- 5:05Speaker 2: ni Al Long has been in this game for a
- 5:06Speaker 2: long time. Lean Long has kids. Nia Long has been
- 5:09Speaker 2: in a very public, you know, situation where her partner,
- 5:14Speaker 2: I May, I May. I'm probably saying his name wrong.
- 5:16Speaker 2: I May, who was coaching for the Celtics, you know,
- 5:19Speaker 2: at the time when all this stuff was going down
- 5:21Speaker 2: and there was the cheating allegations, and Neil Long like publicly,
- 5:26Speaker 2: that's like finding out you got cheated cheated on when
- 5:28Speaker 2: you at work and it's like it's nothing you can
- 5:30Speaker 2: do because you got to finish the shift.
- 5:31Speaker 1: But she's so pissed and your heart is broken.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Nia Long would do some things publicly with her youngest
- 5:36Speaker 2: son's father.
- 5:37Speaker 1: She has two sons. Her youngest son's father.
- 5:40Speaker 2: I May, I believe it's I May I may, I may,
- 5:44Speaker 2: I may. If I'm saying it wrong, I apologize. I
- 5:48Speaker 2: say a lot of people's names wrong, My bad.
- 5:51Speaker 1: So okay, my bad. But yeah, so she's been doing
- 5:54Speaker 1: a lot publicly.
- 5:55Speaker 2: But you know, even before that, she had the career,
- 5:59Speaker 2: she had the husban, been, she had the family, all
- 6:02Speaker 2: of the things. And she says, I never wanted to
- 6:03Speaker 2: wake up in my thirties and forties and say, well,
- 6:06Speaker 2: what is the value of my life? She says, Now,
- 6:09Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I my are women who are
- 6:11Speaker 2: committed to being stay at home wives and running a
- 6:14Speaker 2: house and raising the children. That's a job. But I
- 6:17Speaker 2: also know that those children grow up, and when they
- 6:19Speaker 2: grow up, whether you're working, whether you're a working mom,
- 6:22Speaker 2: a single mom, or stay at home mom, there's a
- 6:24Speaker 2: moment that every woman feels like, Okay, now it's time
- 6:27Speaker 2: to recreate who I am. Now it's time to tap
- 6:29Speaker 2: into my passion because there's so much pouring out.
- 6:33Speaker 1: It's like to give or take.
- 6:34Speaker 2: It's basically like, okay, now your cup is empty and
- 6:36Speaker 2: you got to refiel it.
- 6:37Speaker 1: So you got to give back somewhere.
- 6:40Speaker 2: She says, I just have never been willing to give
- 6:41Speaker 2: up my career and my dreams and my aspirations for
- 6:44Speaker 2: a man. I think it's beautiful to have a partnership,
- 6:47Speaker 2: but I don't need to be taken care of. It's
- 6:49Speaker 2: nice to be treated, it's nice for a man to
- 6:50Speaker 2: financially be giving. I love all of that. I'm here
- 6:53Speaker 2: for all of that, and it's actually like a prerequisit right, Yes, girl,
- 6:58Speaker 2: I am. That's one of the biggest things I'm learning.
- 7:00Speaker 2: It's nothing wrong with that being a prerequisite. The twenty
- 7:03Speaker 2: twenty five and this whole list of where people won't
- 7:06Speaker 2: eat and will eat on the date.
- 7:07Speaker 1: I ain't going to a chain restaurant.
- 7:09Speaker 2: All that will make you feel like having prerequisites or
- 7:11Speaker 2: things that you want when it comes to finances is
- 7:14Speaker 2: a bad thing as a woman, which is crazy to me.
- 7:17Speaker 2: You don't got to be you know. I'm not the
- 7:19Speaker 2: type that's like if my men don't.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Or can't, I won't.
- 7:23Speaker 2: But you do want it, and I want to be
- 7:25Speaker 2: honest about the fact that I want that, So I
- 7:26Speaker 2: love the Neolong said that. Here she says, you got
- 7:29Speaker 2: to come with all the presents, she laughs, the offerings,
- 7:33Speaker 2: The surprise is the trips. That's the icing on the cake.
- 7:36Speaker 2: That's where I get to be soft. That's where I
- 7:38Speaker 2: get to be a girl's girl. I'm sorry, That's where
- 7:40Speaker 2: I get to be a girly girl. Felt feltic. So
- 7:44Speaker 2: when I think about Neolong and I think about, you know,
- 7:47Speaker 2: since the nineties, how long Neolong has been in this
- 7:51Speaker 2: industry and been relevant in this industry. I mean, the
- 7:55Speaker 2: minute I think about ni Along, I think about the
- 7:56Speaker 2: line short hair like Neolon, like her beauty has been
- 8:00Speaker 2: focus short hair, night like ne Along. People think of nineties,
- 8:04Speaker 2: you know, beautiful brown skin, brown lip, brown glass, soul food,
- 8:09Speaker 2: love Jones, the flipped up Bob. Anytime I do short hair,
- 8:13Speaker 2: brown lip, it's all even my shirt today, my shirt today.
- 8:18Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys can see it well
- 8:19Speaker 2: because I'm sitting down, but it's very much na Along
- 8:22Speaker 2: soul Food inspired.
- 8:23Speaker 1: When I put this on today, I was like, oh,
- 8:24Speaker 1: I just.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Want to do brown lip, natural glow vibes very much
- 8:28Speaker 2: reminiscent of ne Along.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Always an inspo. But it's not just about her look.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I think it's always for a lot of us, you know,
- 8:37Speaker 2: women that are trying to figure this out.
- 8:39Speaker 1: We model and or we model and we look at
- 8:42Speaker 1: women who.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Seem like they have it all figured out, And I say,
- 8:46Speaker 2: I say it seem like not as a knock to
- 8:48Speaker 2: what Neilong may have or may not have figured out.
- 8:50Speaker 2: But you know, I just know people always say I
- 8:53Speaker 2: look like I haven't figured out, but I don't not
- 8:54Speaker 2: about me. But like she would probably I'm assuming she
- 8:57Speaker 2: would probably say that because everybody, and she said in
- 9:00Speaker 2: this article when she talks about co parents and having
- 9:02Speaker 2: to figure out her situation after that very public separation
- 9:06Speaker 2: that we talked about, nobody has it all figured out,
- 9:08Speaker 2: but eventually you get to a place of peace and understanding.
- 9:11Speaker 2: And for n a long and looking at her career
- 9:13Speaker 2: in the way that people have regarded her as a
- 9:15Speaker 2: nineties beauty and all the.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Things that's something to aspire to.
- 9:20Speaker 2: I think the way that people talk about you, in
- 9:22Speaker 2: my opinion, in this industry carries you in how you
- 9:27Speaker 2: are or how you are perceived when you walk in
- 9:30Speaker 2: before you're able to open your mouth and do so.
- 9:32Speaker 2: And I think, if you know nothing else about Nia Long,
- 9:35Speaker 2: you know she is gorgeous. You know she has had
- 9:37Speaker 2: some of the most iconic roles. She's been one of
- 9:39Speaker 2: the most impactful and iconic black faces actress wise, you
- 9:44Speaker 2: know since the nineties, and you know that there are
- 9:47Speaker 2: generations of women, especially US brown skinned girls that have
- 9:51Speaker 2: looked at nia Along for inspo. So we're we're not
- 9:53Speaker 2: just doing it because of beauty. It's like, Okay, she
- 9:56Speaker 2: getting money, she looks good. The family unit is, they're
- 10:00Speaker 2: just all the things. And I think we saw a
- 10:02Speaker 2: lot of how people regard Nia Long when the situation
- 10:07Speaker 2: with her ex in, her child's father, her youngest child's father, happened.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Because when everything came out, you know about the allegations
- 10:16Speaker 2: that were being thrown his way, and in real time,
- 10:20Speaker 2: Nia Long was being put in conversations of what was
- 10:24Speaker 2: done to her and her relationship as far as you know,
- 10:27Speaker 2: his infidelity, his alleged infidelity. The world came out swinging
- 10:31Speaker 2: like don't play with her like that. We not don't
- 10:33Speaker 2: play with our girl like that. And also Nia Long
- 10:36Speaker 2: has talked about I remember she did to sit down
- 10:38Speaker 2: with Jeezi and she talked about how she didn't feel
- 10:42Speaker 2: protected in that situation and not by us. Because again
- 10:46Speaker 2: we the people came out swinging for n Along, like
- 10:48Speaker 2: why is this even a public conversation, Why is this
- 10:52Speaker 2: being leaked to press into media at all, but she
- 10:57Speaker 2: said she felt she didn't feel protect or that the
- 11:01Speaker 2: necessary steps were taken by the organization he was working
- 11:04Speaker 2: with at the time and just people involved to protect
- 11:07Speaker 2: her in their situation in the the you know, the
- 11:10Speaker 2: fact that a lot of this should have remained anonymous,
- 11:12Speaker 2: But we move on. She also talks about co parenting
- 11:25Speaker 2: in this article. And to my surprise, because I'm be
- 11:27Speaker 2: honest with y'all, if I was knee along and I
- 11:30Speaker 2: had to go.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Through what she had to go through.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Because she's a public figure and this was you know
- 11:34Speaker 2: you're talking about. You know, he's a coach for the
- 11:38Speaker 2: Celtics at the time, and it's a very high profile situation,
- 11:42Speaker 2: it would be a bit hard for me to figure
- 11:44Speaker 2: out co parenting in the way she's describing in this article.
- 11:48Speaker 2: I get it, they have kids and they gotta figure
- 11:49Speaker 2: it out, but I.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Think I don't know.
- 11:53Speaker 2: There would just be a level of hurt and distrust
- 11:55Speaker 2: that I don't know I would be able to as
- 11:57Speaker 2: easily get over. But maybe it's different when you got kids.
- 11:59Speaker 2: I don't have kids, Yeah, but she says. Neilong says,
- 12:02Speaker 2: this summer I travel with my youngest son and my ex.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Emay, we had a great time.
- 12:07Speaker 2: And that's what I mean by I don't know if
- 12:08Speaker 2: I could get to this point where yall are seeing
- 12:09Speaker 2: us out in public traveling together. You know, we've shown
- 12:12Speaker 2: up at like basketball, soccer ball, soccer ball, basketball soccer
- 12:16Speaker 2: games together.
- 12:17Speaker 1: That's one thing.
- 12:19Speaker 2: That's easy to say, Okay, they're both here because of
- 12:21Speaker 2: like whatever, but traveling on trips together. Her kid can
- 12:25Speaker 2: easily go with his father and take that same trip.
- 12:28Speaker 2: It's a very big step for you guys to be
- 12:30Speaker 2: doing that together, she says. This summer, I travel with
- 12:33Speaker 2: my youngest son and my ex. We had a great time.
- 12:36Speaker 2: I've never walked that much in my life, but it
- 12:39Speaker 2: was really beautiful because we've had a very public journey
- 12:42Speaker 2: that has found its way to peace and understanding, and
- 12:45Speaker 2: there's a lot of mutual respect that we have for
- 12:47Speaker 2: each other. The most important gift you can give your
- 12:50Speaker 2: kids is to.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Heal your trauma.
- 12:52Speaker 2: And that's what I mean by Look, I don't have kids,
- 12:54Speaker 2: so me right now, I'm speaking from a place of
- 12:56Speaker 2: that trauma will still be sitting very deep at the
- 12:59Speaker 2: top of my stomach, and every single time I would
- 13:02Speaker 2: have to engage. It would just come up like that
- 13:05Speaker 2: look that come up like the spirits in me. Okay,
- 13:08Speaker 2: it would hit me like the Holy ghost every single time.
- 13:11Speaker 2: I had to just see the person in real life.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Anyway. But listen, maybe.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Kids give you a different sense of strength that I
- 13:17Speaker 2: don't have yet, in a different sense of needing for peace,
- 13:22Speaker 2: because I'm all here for peace. But my piece is
- 13:24Speaker 2: I never have to see you again nor talk to you.
- 13:26Speaker 2: They don't have a choice here, She says. I don't
- 13:28Speaker 2: talk much about my personal life because it's no one's business,
- 13:31Speaker 2: but every now and then people speculate on social media,
- 13:35Speaker 2: and it's like me and Coach are good. I hope
- 13:38Speaker 2: he wins. He deserves to win. He really, he's really
- 13:41Speaker 2: great at what he does. We can have experiences with
- 13:43Speaker 2: our son and make him the priority. They're still healing
- 13:47Speaker 2: to be done and understanding to be had. But the
- 13:49Speaker 2: past is the past. And that's what I think to me,
- 13:51Speaker 2: is that is what is so like, Oh my god, Lauren,
- 13:55Speaker 2: you might need to grow up like so remarkable and
- 13:58Speaker 2: profound here because I can understand piece is piece. There's
- 14:03Speaker 2: no issue. But I think that's easier said than done.
- 14:06Speaker 2: When again, I don't have to deal with anybody that
- 14:09Speaker 2: I've dealt with in the past, I don't have to
- 14:11Speaker 2: deal with them.
- 14:11Speaker 1: We have no strings attached, not a thing. Okay, love
- 14:16Speaker 1: that for me.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Love it like I really.
- 14:20Speaker 1: At this point, I don't even have an ex.
- 14:22Speaker 2: I've never dated anybody besides the date, but a person
- 14:24Speaker 2: I'm dating right now. That is how I handle, you know,
- 14:27Speaker 2: life at this point, and.
- 14:28Speaker 1: That brings me peace.
- 14:29Speaker 2: But it's a bit different here, especially too, I think
- 14:31Speaker 2: even if they didn't share a son together, it's a
- 14:34Speaker 2: bit different because again, it was so high profile, so
- 14:37Speaker 2: you're always attached to that person once it's high profile
- 14:40Speaker 2: and it hits the media and it becomes a storyline.
- 14:43Speaker 2: She says, they're still healing. It needs to be done,
- 14:44Speaker 2: and I understanding to be had. But the past is
- 14:46Speaker 2: the past. I'm not going to carry burthen some energy
- 14:48Speaker 2: with me because that just transfers to my children and
- 14:51Speaker 2: it transfers to everything else in my life. I'm working
- 14:53Speaker 2: on menia, all right, I hear you speaking. I'm proud
- 14:56Speaker 2: of myself. I think we're proud of each other as parents,
- 15:00Speaker 2: and we're able to make this an annual thing and
- 15:03Speaker 2: commit to these last sweet years of him being in
- 15:05Speaker 2: grade school and high school before he goes off to college.
- 15:08Speaker 2: We're both going to be standing there and watching him graduate.
- 15:11Speaker 2: And I mean, I think this is the place that
- 15:15Speaker 2: you have to arrive to, especially with a kid grade
- 15:20Speaker 2: school ages that's a big kid. Your kid is on
- 15:23Speaker 2: social so your kid is hearing things, seeing things, and
- 15:26Speaker 2: even if your kid is not directly on social, their
- 15:28Speaker 2: friends are. We just talked today at the Breakfast Club
- 15:31Speaker 2: about Blue Ivy and when Blue Ivy was doing the
- 15:34Speaker 2: Cowboy Carter tour. Y'all remember in the beginning of the tour,
- 15:37Speaker 2: people were, you know, having some things to say about
- 15:40Speaker 2: her dancing and her choreography, especially because I mean, Beyonce
- 15:44Speaker 2: is her mom. But Matthew Knows told Carlos King on
- 15:50Speaker 2: Reality with the King that social media was the reason
- 15:54Speaker 2: that Blue Ivy went basically got in a gym.
- 15:57Speaker 1: So I think at this point, when you you have
- 16:00Speaker 1: a kid that is.
- 16:00Speaker 2: This old and also too you know nia long and
- 16:04Speaker 2: you know her ex were together for some time and
- 16:06Speaker 2: they're just in different spaces a lot more mature than
- 16:09Speaker 2: I am, you don't have a choice but to get
- 16:12Speaker 2: to this place and I think that it's important because
- 16:14Speaker 2: you have so much going on day to day. And
- 16:15Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm not harboring any bad feelings
- 16:18Speaker 2: or ill will for anybody in my past. I think
- 16:20Speaker 2: I've gotten to a point too where I'm like, I
- 16:22Speaker 2: don't even know if these people deserve that energy, but.
- 16:27Speaker 1: I don't interact with anyone. I think if I were
- 16:30Speaker 1: to have to interact.
- 16:30Speaker 2: With any X that I had any bad breakup situation with, honestly,
- 16:35Speaker 2: like my my last situation, if I were to walk
- 16:38Speaker 2: past him to day or tomorrow, it would be nothing
- 16:42Speaker 2: like literally even if you were to speak and just
- 16:44Speaker 2: be like, oh hey, what's up.
- 16:45Speaker 1: But it's taking time for me to get there.
- 16:47Speaker 2: And I've had the luxury of not having an interact
- 16:49Speaker 2: and just acting like he fell off the edge of
- 16:50Speaker 2: the earth because it's what I needed and I'm sure
- 16:52Speaker 2: it's what he needed as well too. But I'd also
- 16:55Speaker 2: gotten to a place by the end of that where
- 16:57Speaker 2: like it wasn't like abrupt like it seems like me
- 17:00Speaker 2: a long situation with her ex and her child's or
- 17:03Speaker 2: her youngest son's father was very like she didn't have
- 17:05Speaker 2: a choice, Like it was like everything hit the news
- 17:09Speaker 2: and it was just like, Okay, is Nea Long gonna
- 17:12Speaker 2: go back? Is she not gonna go back? And I
- 17:15Speaker 2: think she did have a choice. Let me not say
- 17:17Speaker 2: that she did have a choice, but I think there
- 17:20Speaker 2: is pressure when you know you got the whole world
- 17:22Speaker 2: and all these girls who are doing a short hair
- 17:24Speaker 2: like Na Long and a brown lip line and looking
- 17:26Speaker 2: up to you about what are you gonna do in
- 17:29Speaker 2: this situation? And people forget that celebrities are only humans.
- 17:32Speaker 2: So it's like you could take your baby father back
- 17:35Speaker 2: like ten eleven times, right, he don't come pick up
- 17:38Speaker 2: the kids. He got about four or five baby mamas.
- 17:40Speaker 2: You arguing and fussing and fighting with all of them,
- 17:43Speaker 2: you can take them back. Cool the men in nia
- 17:45Speaker 2: along decides to take anybody back, or we get a
- 17:49Speaker 2: photo of them on this vacation and it's picked up
- 17:51Speaker 2: the wrong way as if they might be trying to
- 17:52Speaker 2: figure things out. Baby you The same person in the
- 17:55Speaker 2: comments like I cannot believe her. She is a role
- 17:58Speaker 2: model for black people. Forget that celebrities are human. But
- 18:01Speaker 2: I mean Neolong stood in where she stood in, and
- 18:03Speaker 2: I think that's always been one of the things again
- 18:05Speaker 2: that you know, you look at people when you admire
- 18:08Speaker 2: about them, It's like it seems Neia don't take no shit,
- 18:11Speaker 2: is what it seems like, and be it as it may.
- 18:15Speaker 2: She's grown up in an industry where she can't, so
- 18:18Speaker 2: that goes into so many other parts of her life.
- 18:21Speaker 1: She continues to.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Say, I talk about my kids a lot because they
- 18:24Speaker 2: take up so much space in my life and my heart.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Everything I do is for them. I'm not a perfect mother.
- 18:28Speaker 2: I've made any mistakes. My kids have seen me go
- 18:31Speaker 2: through it. But that's the type of mother I am.
- 18:33Speaker 2: If I'm pissed, everyone knows. See, that's so crazy that
- 18:37Speaker 2: I said that. I hadn't even read this paragraph in
- 18:39Speaker 2: prep for today's episode. I just I've never met Nia long,
- 18:43Speaker 2: but just from watching her in interviews and how she's
- 18:46Speaker 2: navigated her career in her characters too, and I like
- 18:52Speaker 2: in her characters. But I think it gets to a
- 18:54Speaker 2: certain point where you know, when you're in a certain
- 18:56Speaker 2: part of your career, you get to pick and choose
- 18:58Speaker 2: kind of what you're playing and why you're playing it,
- 19:01Speaker 2: and you know you're very mindful about what you're picking.
- 19:03Speaker 2: And she's been able to craft almost like a brand
- 19:06Speaker 2: or a conversation for herself through her characters. Now this
- 19:16Speaker 2: next part of the article, and we want to end
- 19:18Speaker 2: here because I want to open it up for conversation
- 19:21Speaker 2: from you guys. This next part of the article hit
- 19:23Speaker 2: me very close to home. So they talk to me
- 19:28Speaker 2: along about being in her thirties, and then they talk
- 19:30Speaker 2: to me along about being in her fifties. So she says,
- 19:33Speaker 2: your thirties are time to experience everything around you, so
- 19:35Speaker 2: that by the time you get to the age where
- 19:37Speaker 2: you decide I want to get married or I want
- 19:39Speaker 2: to have kids, or I don't want to get married,
- 19:41Speaker 2: but I still want to have children, you've been open
- 19:44Speaker 2: enough to have these experiences to narrow down your purpose.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I think thirty is definitely the time where you start
- 19:51Speaker 2: thinking purpose, Like you think you know purpose and you
- 19:54Speaker 2: think you know, Oh my God, this is why God
- 19:56Speaker 2: put me here and the world deserves to get this
- 19:58Speaker 2: version of me.
- 19:59Speaker 1: No, I think thirty is where you at least.
- 20:01Speaker 2: I don't think you get it fully in your thirties,
- 20:03Speaker 2: but I think you start thinking about it in a
- 20:05Speaker 2: real way and things start hitting you differently, especially if
- 20:08Speaker 2: you're coming into your thirties with kids or thinking about
- 20:10Speaker 2: half them.
- 20:10Speaker 1: She says.
- 20:11Speaker 2: When I was thirty, I was like, and I'm thirty three.
- 20:13Speaker 2: That's why it just hit me so close to home.
- 20:15Speaker 2: She says, When I was thirty, I was like, Okay,
- 20:17Speaker 2: I want to have my first child by thirty. I
- 20:19Speaker 2: thought I was going to have my first child at
- 20:20Speaker 2: twenty five, like that was always my thing before I
- 20:24Speaker 2: got to college. When I got to college, I was like,
- 20:27Speaker 2: twenty five is not happening. Okay, I need my years
- 20:29Speaker 2: back that I just spent in college. We're gonna look
- 20:31Speaker 2: at thirty five. Now I'm thirty three, and I'm like,
- 20:33Speaker 2: oh god.
- 20:35Speaker 1: She says.
- 20:35Speaker 2: When I was thirty, I was like, Okay, I want
- 20:37Speaker 2: to have my first child by thirty. And it was
- 20:39Speaker 2: always weird because I never said I wanted to be married.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Marriage was secondary because I felt if it was meant
- 20:45Speaker 2: to be, that would happen. I had my first child
- 20:47Speaker 2: at thirty and my second one at forty. I was
- 20:50Speaker 2: so hyper focused on surviving that I probably should have
- 20:53Speaker 2: had more fun. So I think there's a healthy balance
- 20:56Speaker 2: between being intentional about your focus, your passion into just
- 21:00Speaker 2: say fuck it and have fun. You're gonna have plenty
- 21:03Speaker 2: of years to grind it out. That part hit me
- 21:06Speaker 2: because one of my biggest things right now is, you know,
- 21:09Speaker 2: I'm open to the idea of beginning to plan having
- 21:14Speaker 2: my children.
- 21:15Speaker 1: I don't want to have children right now. This is
- 21:18Speaker 1: not the time. I think.
- 21:19Speaker 2: I'm just beginning to build like foundation in a real
- 21:22Speaker 2: way for myself career wise, and that's very important for
- 21:25Speaker 2: me to I know it won't be all figured out,
- 21:27Speaker 2: but I do want a certain.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Foundation before I have my kids.
- 21:31Speaker 2: But when she said she at one point was planning
- 21:34Speaker 2: her children, and she was just like, you know, if
- 21:36Speaker 2: marriage happens, it happens.
- 21:37Speaker 1: I want to be married. I want the family dynamic.
- 21:39Speaker 2: That is something I've always said, but I realize this
- 21:43Speaker 2: year that I've been even though I've always said that.
- 21:47Speaker 2: And a big part of that is because I didn't
- 21:48Speaker 2: grow up with my father in my house. I met
- 21:50Speaker 2: my dad when I was like thirteen. I can pick
- 21:53Speaker 2: up the phone and call him. He may or he
- 21:54Speaker 2: may not answer. It depends on what he's going through
- 21:57Speaker 2: that day.
- 21:57Speaker 1: And if he.
- 21:58Speaker 2: Answers, how well our conversation goes depends on him his
- 22:03Speaker 2: energy that day. And I mean my dad watches and
- 22:07Speaker 2: listens to everything gets upset when I say things like that,
- 22:09Speaker 2: but it's the honest truth and the reason why I
- 22:11Speaker 2: bring that up. It's not a stab at him. It's
- 22:13Speaker 2: just that I realized this year has created an idea
- 22:17Speaker 2: in my mind of like, Okay, I want to be
- 22:21Speaker 2: married and I want the family dynamic because it's not
- 22:23Speaker 2: what I had traditionally in my house.
- 22:25Speaker 1: My brother's dad was around, I have a lot of
- 22:27Speaker 1: uncles and like all of that, so I was straight.
- 22:29Speaker 2: I never knew I needed for a man in the
- 22:31Speaker 2: household until I met people who had their dads in
- 22:34Speaker 2: their house. But it's so it's created this idea that, yes,
- 22:40Speaker 2: I want all of this stuff because I didn't have it,
- 22:42Speaker 2: and I know it's needed, but I.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Don't even really know why, like like what is the need?
- 22:49Speaker 1: Like like why am I saying that?
- 22:51Speaker 2: Like I'm saying it because traditionally that's what's supposed to happen.
- 22:55Speaker 2: But I think this past so not this past summer.
- 22:59Speaker 2: It was the summer prior to that about yeah, the
- 23:01Speaker 2: summer when I came home from LA and I was
- 23:04Speaker 2: in transition, so it was you know, I had done
- 23:06Speaker 2: a little bit of a guest host in twenty twenty
- 23:07Speaker 2: three breakfast Club. That was the first time that me
- 23:10Speaker 2: and my dad spent like actual real time together because
- 23:14Speaker 2: he was helping me renovate an event space that I
- 23:15Speaker 2: had at the time. And I remember one day we
- 23:18Speaker 2: were on the phone with a contractors or it was
- 23:20Speaker 2: like a painting company. It was a painting company, like
- 23:22Speaker 2: a paint store. And my dad has an interior decorating
- 23:25Speaker 2: business that's painting and all the things, so that's why
- 23:27Speaker 2: he was there helping me. And there were two conversations actually,
- 23:30Speaker 2: so this is the first one. So I was on
- 23:32Speaker 2: the phone with the paint store and I'm talking through
- 23:35Speaker 2: things and he's telling me what to say, and I
- 23:38Speaker 2: think I said something wrong or like they told me
- 23:40Speaker 2: they didn't have something that like it didn't make sense
- 23:42Speaker 2: for them not to have, and he took the phone
- 23:45Speaker 2: and the way that they talked to him, it was
- 23:47Speaker 2: a guy on the phone, the way that he talked
- 23:49Speaker 2: to my dad, and just I don't know the level
- 23:53Speaker 2: of understanding that happened in the conversation instantly because a
- 23:55Speaker 2: man got in the phone, got on the phone and
- 23:59Speaker 2: kind of just like took over and I was able
- 24:00Speaker 2: to sit back. I remember literally the feeling of like, oh,
- 24:06Speaker 2: this is what having a dad around is like. And
- 24:10Speaker 2: for like, I literally remember that, and that's something as
- 24:12Speaker 2: small as like ordering paint from a paint store, but
- 24:14Speaker 2: I just remember the reassurance of like, my dad got it,
- 24:19Speaker 2: and like the reassurance of oh, a man is here.
- 24:21Speaker 2: So it feels like like there's like a safer space
- 24:24Speaker 2: or like a you know, like I never felt that before,
- 24:27Speaker 2: so I didn't really understand because it's different when it's
- 24:29Speaker 2: your father versus like, you know, my brother's dad, and
- 24:31Speaker 2: even that him and my mom weren't together getting too personal.
- 24:35Speaker 2: My whole point is is that when I read this
- 24:37Speaker 2: from Nia Long, I realized that when she says and
- 24:42Speaker 2: it was always weird because I never said I wanted
- 24:45Speaker 2: to be married.
- 24:46Speaker 1: That's different for me.
- 24:46Speaker 2: I've always said I wanted to be married, but she
- 24:48Speaker 2: says marriage was secondary because I felt if it was meant.
- 24:51Speaker 1: To be, that would happen.
- 24:52Speaker 2: I think, in my mind, I'm saying this is what
- 24:55Speaker 2: I want, but my actions I was moving like, I mean,
- 25:00Speaker 2: I can deal with whoever, even if I don't see
- 25:03Speaker 2: my forever or this being the father of my children,
- 25:06Speaker 2: because that's just gonna find me like the great man
- 25:12Speaker 2: who's the father of my children, but not just the
- 25:14Speaker 2: father of my children, but my life partner and my husband.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Oh, that'll just find me.
- 25:18Speaker 2: I don't need to be intentional because it'll just snap
- 25:20Speaker 2: into or it'll just happen.
- 25:23Speaker 1: No.
- 25:24Speaker 2: I got to a certain point being single and being
- 25:26Speaker 2: in my thirties and really starting to like think through
- 25:29Speaker 2: what I want my like this thing over here on
- 25:33Speaker 2: the left of me that I'm saying I want like
- 25:35Speaker 2: marriage and children, and like I don't just want a
- 25:39Speaker 2: man in my house and to be married because I
- 25:42Speaker 2: didn't see that. I want a real life partner. I
- 25:44Speaker 2: want my kids to see me happy. I want my
- 25:46Speaker 2: kids to see me working through things and it actually
- 25:49Speaker 2: working out when I'm not happy. I want my kids
- 25:51Speaker 2: to see me being respected, valued, and I want my
- 25:54Speaker 2: kids to see me doing that to someone as well.
- 25:57Speaker 2: And I, oh, my god, Like this past year has
- 26:00Speaker 2: just been even the way I speak about kids, I
- 26:05Speaker 2: say my kids, and I've had to learn how to
- 26:09Speaker 2: be like our kids and our because in my mind
- 26:13Speaker 2: marriage and all that, it was just like I'm gonna
- 26:15Speaker 2: do that because it hasn't been done and I haven't
- 26:17Speaker 2: seen it, not because I truly felt like I was
- 26:20Speaker 2: ever gonna find a person that was my actual like, Okay,
- 26:23Speaker 2: this is my partner, We're equally yoked. This is what
- 26:27Speaker 2: my children need, not just this is what I want
- 26:29Speaker 2: for them. That whole little line right there, Oh, it's
- 26:33Speaker 2: just gonna happen. It'll just fall in the place. Felt that,
- 26:37Speaker 2: And that's where I was up until this year thirty three.
- 26:40Speaker 2: And then she compares it to her her fifties, and
- 26:42Speaker 2: she says, I'm turning fifty five this year. My sixties
- 26:45Speaker 2: are around the corner. It sounds crazy to me, but
- 26:47Speaker 2: I still feel like I'm in my thirties. I felt smarter,
- 26:50Speaker 2: I feel safe. I've practiced a lot of forgiveness over
- 26:52Speaker 2: the past couple of years. Most of my relationships are
- 26:55Speaker 2: in a really good place. And I did it for myself.
- 26:57Speaker 2: I didn't do it for anyone else.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. There are days that I want
- 27:01Speaker 1: to go in we all have that.
- 27:03Speaker 2: But when I feel that pressure or that angst, or
- 27:05Speaker 2: that anxiety, or that need to have a deeper understanding
- 27:08Speaker 2: of something or someone, I tend to get quiet and
- 27:10Speaker 2: think about what I'm going through rather than whatever the
- 27:13Speaker 2: outside circumstance is and then you can approach things differently.
- 27:18Speaker 2: I'm not in my fifties, but I feel like I've
- 27:20Speaker 2: begin to do that a bit differently. And maybe it's
- 27:23Speaker 2: too it's because of like Nia Long has been famous
- 27:26Speaker 2: and has been had platform and success in a public
- 27:29Speaker 2: eye for a really long time. Everything's just starting for me,
- 27:32Speaker 2: like and I'm such a I'm like, you know, small fish,
- 27:35Speaker 2: huge pond on this platform that is.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Like, you know, elevating things every single day for me.
- 27:41Speaker 2: So I'm beginning to think about how I deal with things,
- 27:44Speaker 2: how I respond to things, so much more and so
- 27:49Speaker 2: differently than how I've ever been because my only thought is,
- 27:53Speaker 2: you can't f this up.
- 27:55Speaker 1: This is your shot.
- 27:55Speaker 2: You cannot mess this up, and anything you do can
- 27:59Speaker 2: has a chance to hear the public. You cannot mess
- 28:01Speaker 2: this up. So I mean this article, and I didn't
- 28:04Speaker 2: even fully go through everything, but this article in reading
- 28:08Speaker 2: about Nia along and just you know where her thinking
- 28:10Speaker 2: is today, from where she's come from and where she's
- 28:13Speaker 2: been and where she's going. She talks about you know,
- 28:15Speaker 2: she's dropping a memoir soon, she has a project coming
- 28:18Speaker 2: up with Lorenz Tape.
- 28:20Speaker 1: It was a great read. It was a great read,
- 28:22Speaker 1: and I think you know here on.
- 28:24Speaker 2: The last with Laurena Rosea, I think one of the
- 28:25Speaker 2: things that it's beautiful is that we get to talk
- 28:28Speaker 2: about things in pop culture and in conversations, in conversation, but.
- 28:34Speaker 1: We get to really have a conversation. This was, you know,
- 28:37Speaker 1: something that made me reflect.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Would love for you guys to go read the article
- 28:42Speaker 2: on the cut, the feature on Nia along. Let me
- 28:44Speaker 2: know what you guys think, Get in the comments, get
- 28:47Speaker 2: in you know, the tweets. Take it to the streets
- 28:49Speaker 2: and the tweets.
- 28:50Speaker 1: You call the truths. We outside, we outside, we outside outside.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Every other page, I want to hear from you guys,
- 28:58Speaker 2: ladies especially like the ladies. I would love to hear
- 29:01Speaker 2: from you guys because I think that conversation of like
- 29:04Speaker 2: have it all.
- 29:06Speaker 1: We're having it a lot more now and we.
- 29:07Speaker 2: See people who do it like I commend Cardi b
- 29:10Speaker 2: I commend all of the women, Beyonce, all of the
- 29:12Speaker 2: women that are able to because it's not easy whatsoever,
- 29:16Speaker 2: but it's scary. That is one of the things that
- 29:19Speaker 2: I am most scared of doing. Someone asked me a question,
- 29:23Speaker 2: what is the dream that you are scared of most,
- 29:26Speaker 2: And I said becoming a mom. And I'm not scared
- 29:28Speaker 2: because I don't think I'll be a great mom. I'll adjust,
- 29:30Speaker 2: I move in shape. You can take care of your
- 29:35Speaker 2: mother and your grandmother because the older people get, the
- 29:38Speaker 2: more you can't tell them nothing. If I can figure
- 29:40Speaker 2: that out, I can figure out a child, especially with
- 29:42Speaker 2: a great partner on which I have. But the biggest
- 29:46Speaker 2: thing for me is how will it impact my career?
- 29:51Speaker 1: You know, you got to be fit.
- 29:52Speaker 2: You gotta show it physically, mentally in ways like never
- 29:57Speaker 2: before when you're a woman on a platform and I'm
- 30:00Speaker 2: new here, so my girl, you only got one shot
- 30:05Speaker 2: comes in to thought so much when I think about
- 30:08Speaker 2: when am I gonna have kids? I want kids, twins
- 30:13Speaker 2: to start twin girls and they're gonna be all over YouTube.
- 30:15Speaker 2: But that's a whole another story. But yes, like that's
- 30:18Speaker 2: the that's one of my biggest Like I'm scared. It's
- 30:21Speaker 2: like I'm playing double dutch, like all right, when, all right?
- 30:23Speaker 1: When?
- 30:24Speaker 2: Because I do want to plan it. I think my
- 30:25Speaker 2: career deserves a plane, a plan a bit. But I'm down,
- 30:30Speaker 2: you know, if not playing.
- 30:31Speaker 1: But I'm scared. So hearing her talk about you know
- 30:34Speaker 1: just the way she.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Used to think about marriage, and you know she's okay
- 30:37Speaker 2: with having a career while having the family, and she's
- 30:40Speaker 2: always been that way, and she's always set out to
- 30:42Speaker 2: be that way.
- 30:42Speaker 1: It's encouraging to hear because it's tough. So, ladies in
- 30:46Speaker 1: the streets, in the tweets, let me know what y'all think.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Is anybody else out there scared like me? Is this
- 30:52Speaker 1: thing going? I'm the only one. Let's talk.
- 30:55Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you guys could be
- 30:57Speaker 2: anywhere with anybody having a conversation about all these things,
- 31:00Speaker 2: but you choose to be right here with me, my lowriders,
- 31:03Speaker 2: and I appreciate you guys for that.
- 31:06Speaker 1: I'm Laura l.
- 31:06Speaker 2: Rosa.
- 31:07Speaker 1: This is the latest with Laura L. Rosa, and I
- 31:08Speaker 1: will see you guys in my next episode.