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SHOCK: HUBBY'S BRUTAL ASSAULT CHARGES DROPPED, MOM'S CHEVY ON REMOTE ROAD: WHERE'S NIKKI? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: After the husband's brutal attack charges were dropped, Mom's Chevy
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  Speaker 2: is found abandoned on a remote country road. Where is NICKI?
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: being with us.
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  Speaker 3: You know, at first, I was like, Okay, maybe she's
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  Speaker 3: still sleeping, and so I was thinking maybe her phone
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  Speaker 3: maybe was just dead.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't immediately panic just yet.
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  Speaker 3: By Tuesday, I'm like, wait a second, have you guys
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  Speaker 3: heard from from Nicky?
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  Speaker 4: We have not seen her, and.
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  Speaker 3: So this is when we're really starting to panic. That's
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  Speaker 3: when we kind of start to panic and kind of
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  Speaker 3: get worried about where she might be because my mom's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, I haven't seen her.
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  Speaker 1: Where is missing Mom?
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  Speaker 2: Niki joining us an all star panel to make sense
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  Speaker 2: of what we are learning since nickis peers first straight
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  Speaker 2: out to her sisters, Chloe Saley and kay Ford. Chloe,
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  Speaker 2: tell me your recollection of when you realize something was
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  Speaker 2: horribly wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Starting Tuesday was when I started realizing that we haven't
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  Speaker 5: heard from her and that.
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  Speaker 4: Wasn't very likely of her.
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  Speaker 1: What about it?
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  Speaker 6: Kay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean by that point, even though we don't
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  Speaker 4: see each other on a daily basis. We do have
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  Speaker 4: consistent communication and there have been a few messages that
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  Speaker 4: if she was not able to reply to immediately, she
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  Speaker 4: would have replied to within a day or two, and
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  Speaker 4: at that point it had been way too long without
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  Speaker 4: a response.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me, Tad Debias out of DC, former assistant US
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  Speaker 2: attorney and author of Nobody Homicide Cases, a practical guide
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  Speaker 2: to investigating, prosecuting, and winning cases when the victim is
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  Speaker 2: missing and you can find him at Nobody Murder Cases
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  Speaker 2: dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Tad, thanks so much.
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  Speaker 2: For being with us limited and narrow question right now.
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  Speaker 2: The sisters realize immediately something is wrong when Nikki is
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  Speaker 2: not responding as she normally would have to text messages,
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  Speaker 2: and more and more we find that that is the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of a timeline.
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  Speaker 1: And let me.
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  Speaker 2: Refer you, Tad, in case you know very well of
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  Speaker 2: Gabby Petito. Her family waved goodbye as Gabby goes on
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  Speaker 2: a cross country trip with Fyance Brian Laundry.
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  Speaker 1: But on their way.
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  Speaker 2: Back, or so they think, they began getting odd text
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  Speaker 2: from Gabby and they knew the text were odd because
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  Speaker 2: Gabby referred to her grandfather by his name. For instance,
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  Speaker 2: if I was going to text my mom about my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of saying, Hey, where's Daddy. What if I said
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  Speaker 2: where's Walter Malcolm Gray Senior. That's a dead giveaway. Something
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  Speaker 2: is wrong. That's happening more and more.
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  Speaker 7: Toad absolutely and Nancy. The reason that's really important is
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  Speaker 7: it enables investigators to put an exact time on when
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  Speaker 7: something may have happened. In the past, when we didn't
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  Speaker 7: have these electronic communications and texting, it made it much
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  Speaker 7: more difficult for investigators to put that TikTok, that exact
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  Speaker 7: time on when something happened. So in this case, we
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  Speaker 7: know almost to the hour when we suspect something happened
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  Speaker 7: to Nicky.
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  Speaker 2: You know two win Is Gibbons also joining us Director
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  Speaker 2: Operations USPA nation Wide Security, leading a team of investigators
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  Speaker 2: who specialize in finding missing people. Brian A criminal timeline is,
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  Speaker 2: in my mind, one of the most important building blocks
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  Speaker 2: of a criminal investigation, and that timeline could start in
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  Speaker 2: any number of ways. For instance, here's a great refresher.
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  Speaker 2: Oj Simpson murdered Nicole Brown, and many people believe the
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  Speaker 2: timeline started when Nichole's dog started wailing.
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  Speaker 1: The dog Akita.
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  Speaker 2: Outside the home they had never heard that before, and
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  Speaker 2: many people believe that is where the timeline started.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and in this case, Nancy, we can start the
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  Speaker 6: timeline around twelve thirty five at night on May seventeenth,
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  Speaker 6: when that last text message exchange was received between Nicki
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  Speaker 6: and her sisters. So you know, there's a pretty definitive
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  Speaker 6: point there of when her last communication where.
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  Speaker 2: Their family was straight back to Chloe and Kay, Nikki's sisters.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we.
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  Speaker 2: Keep hearing that there are no new developments in Nikki's disappearance.
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  Speaker 2: I disagree for number one. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it true a woman has moved in with Key's husband?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we have seen and heard that there is
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  Speaker 4: a woman living there and it's likely his girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I hate to keep using the same example, but
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  Speaker 2: Scott Peterson is good for so many criminal examples.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Investigative reporter with Crime online dot coment Alexis Tereschuk. Do
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  Speaker 2: you remember when Lacy Peterson went missing? It was no
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  Speaker 2: time at all that had passed with Scott Peterson, her killer.
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  Speaker 2: Her husband had ordered the porn channel, tried to sell
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  Speaker 2: her car, and tried to sell the home. Furniture included
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  Speaker 2: let's just say he did not expect her to walk
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  Speaker 2: through the front door.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all.
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  Speaker 8: He did everything that he wanted to do with her
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  Speaker 8: just being gone because he didn't think she was going back.
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  Speaker 1: And so this Nicki's.
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  Speaker 8: Husband, not even a year after she's gone missing, already
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  Speaker 8: has a woman living with him. And this is almost
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  Speaker 8: a year to the day from when he was arrested
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  Speaker 8: for domestic violence for attacking her right before the holidays.
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  Speaker 8: Seat right before Christmas in December of last year was
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  Speaker 8: when he was arrested for assaulting her.
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  Speaker 1: I mean two.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor John Delatorie joining US renowned psychologist, got a question
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  Speaker 2: for you. Your expertise is forensic psychology, right delatory Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you recall the name Tex McIvor, the silk stocking lawyer
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  Speaker 2: and a huge national law firm based he was based
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  Speaker 2: in Atlanta when he's still practice law. His wife was
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  Speaker 2: shot by him, he claims, accidentally, and he immediately had
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  Speaker 2: a giant basically a yard sale and a fancy boutique
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  Speaker 2: insignment store in Atlanta, where I.
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  Speaker 1: Believe he made nearly three hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars ish off furs and jewelry and stiletto Hills she
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  Speaker 2: Diane McIvor was a corporate boss herself of Carrie Limos,
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  Speaker 2: So she had all all of these beautiful fancy clothing
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  Speaker 2: and jewelry that she would wear to events. Oh it
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  Speaker 2: took him no time at all, boo boop, and he
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  Speaker 2: put all of herself up for sale consignment.
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  Speaker 1: Hello yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 9: For cases similar to this, we have to understand that
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  Speaker 9: the person never really cared about their partner they were
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  Speaker 9: They always believed that the partner was getting in their way,
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  Speaker 9: that there were some kind of obstacle that they needed
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  Speaker 9: to get rid of. That level of animosity rises to
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  Speaker 9: the point of violence. Similar to this case that even
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  Speaker 9: though the case was dismissed, and it was dismissed for
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  Speaker 9: a different reason than it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, in this case, no one has been charged
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  Speaker 2: with murderer, manslaughter, nothing. The husband was charged with a
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  Speaker 2: brutal assault on Nikki prior to her disappearing, prior to
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  Speaker 2: her Chevy being found abandoned on a remote country road.
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  Speaker 2: Those charges were dropped, probably tad tobias because Nicki didn't
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  Speaker 2: show up in court to testify.
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  Speaker 1: But those charges have been dropped and he has not
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  Speaker 1: been named as a suspect in this case, Tad what
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  Speaker 1: about it?
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  Speaker 7: So that probably likely is the reason why the charges
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  Speaker 7: were dropped because, as you know, Nancy being a former prosecutor,
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  Speaker 7: when you don't have the victim in a domestic violence case,
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  Speaker 7: it doesn't mean the case can't be prosecuted, but it
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  Speaker 7: means you've got to go through other means other than
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  Speaker 7: having the victim's testimony. Maybe you have an officer who
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  Speaker 7: saw injuries. Maybe you have statements made by Nicki that
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  Speaker 7: can come in even though she's not there, some type
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  Speaker 7: of excited utterance, a statement to a medical professional. It
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  Speaker 7: just becomes more difficult to make that case without the victim.
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  Speaker 7: And depending on the evidence, it may be able to
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  Speaker 7: be done. But that's what the prosecutors are going to
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  Speaker 7: have to determine, and to date it appears they determined
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  Speaker 7: that they cannot go forward with the case, so they
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  Speaker 7: dropped it so that they reserve the right to bring
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  Speaker 7: the case back later.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, some assault can be made without the victim testifying,
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  Speaker 2: but it's much more difficult. Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA
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  Speaker 2: Nationwide Security. Do I have to say the name Drew
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  Speaker 2: Peterson is like eating dirt. The former police officer who,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt, in my mind, murdered wife at number four,
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  Speaker 2: Stacy Peterson.
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  Speaker 1: Her body has.
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  Speaker 2: Never oh my goodness, what is there a thirty year
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  Speaker 2: age gap, let's just start with that. But that said,
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  Speaker 2: her body has never been found, although I think I
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  Speaker 2: know where it is. Drew Peterson gave away Stacy's firs,
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  Speaker 2: her fur coats, and laingerie and bikinis to another woman.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously, Brian, he did not expect her to come
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  Speaker 2: in to put on her coat, right, she wasn't coming.
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  Speaker 6: Home, Oh, exactly, Nancy. And you could see Tyler McCain's behavior.
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  Speaker 6: He's been videoed in and out of courtrooms in Shasta
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  Speaker 6: County with a very similar demeanor. So you know this
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  Speaker 6: does echo the Drew Peterson case quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor John Delatory joining me around, psychologist, forensics psychologist, Doctor Delatory.
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  Speaker 2: As in the case of Drew Peterson giving away Stacy's bikinis,
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  Speaker 2: her lingerie. Who would want the used lingerie of a
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  Speaker 2: woman missing. That's a whole other can of worms. But
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  Speaker 2: he knews Stacy wants.
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  Speaker 1: To coming home.
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  Speaker 2: And can I just add the name Kathleen Savio that
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  Speaker 2: was former cop Jrew. Peterson's third wife found dead in
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  Speaker 2: a bone dry bathtub.
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  Speaker 1: But it was just.
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  Speaker 2: Chalked off that she slipped in the tub, okay, because
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  Speaker 2: the tub was completely dry and her body was not
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  Speaker 2: even remotely moist at all.
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  Speaker 1: Her hair was dry, everything about her was dry. She
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  Speaker 1: was covered in bruises, but as she slipped, he was.
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  Speaker 2: She was later exhumed, Delatory, and the case is proven
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  Speaker 2: that he killed her.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he's in.
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  Speaker 2: Jail, not because fourth wife, Stacy Peterson is still missing.
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  Speaker 2: That said doctor DELATORI what idiot wouldn't wait to sell
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  Speaker 2: the clothing or remarry or just get the porn channel
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  Speaker 2: for Pete, saying, you know what kind of huble l
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  Speaker 2: would break loose if I came home from this studio
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  Speaker 2: and I found the porn channel on our direct team.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, that I would.
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  Speaker 2: Change the locks and I wouldn't even call a divorce lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: It would be ady. I would do it myself. Delatory.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, you would anticipate that these guys, you know,
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  Speaker 9: the individuals who are engaging in these kinds of offending behaviors,
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  Speaker 9: would be more sort of criminalistic, right, that they would understand. Listen,
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  Speaker 9: you also have to fight the court of public opinion.
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  Speaker 9: But the reality is is that they can't. They're so
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  Speaker 9: impulsive that the moment that they engage in the crime
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  Speaker 9: that's so called let them free, then they want all
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  Speaker 9: the freereedom again. They want to do everything that they
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  Speaker 9: wanted to do because the weight of being in a
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  Speaker 9: relationship is no longer around it. They're only interested in
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  Speaker 9: what gives them pleasure. They're not interested in what it
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  Speaker 9: makes them look like, or they don't even care about
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  Speaker 9: attempting to find their partner. None of that stuff matters
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  Speaker 9: because they're just going to do what they can do
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  Speaker 9: to make themselves feel good.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Delatry, I only have a JD. But I could
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  Speaker 2: have said everything that you just said. I'm looking to
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  Speaker 2: you for clinical names.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of behavior is this?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can guess a narcissistic where you which
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  Speaker 2: is after the mythological character Narcissus, who was so in
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  Speaker 2: love with himself, is looking into a pond, staring at
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  Speaker 2: his own reflection.
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  Speaker 1: And fell in and died. Think is how that goes?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I can armshare quarterback that and say that all
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  Speaker 2: of the guys we've named from tex macaiv Or to
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  Speaker 2: Drew Peterson to Scott Peterson in a relation. We're all narcissists,
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  Speaker 2: I get that, but it's a whole other level where
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  Speaker 2: you commit acts that could implicate you in a murder.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, And there is no diagnosis that is there that
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  Speaker 9: would compel someone to engage in a violent act. That
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  Speaker 9: doesn't exist. However, a person's personality and decision making can
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  Speaker 9: be to the point that they believe that they that
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  Speaker 9: they can have power and control over anyone in their lives,
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  Speaker 9: and they will find people to subjugate and to ridicule
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  Speaker 9: and to embarrass, and they will engage in these behaviors
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  Speaker 9: in order to make themselves feel good. But the reality
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  Speaker 9: is is that the person wanted something. They wanted to
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  Speaker 9: have some kind of freedom, and they believe that being
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  Speaker 9: in a relationship meant that they could not have that freedom,
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  Speaker 9: and they were angry and they decided to take it
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  Speaker 9: out on these people. I mean, Nicki's one of hundreds
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  Speaker 9: of thousands of people, all different kinds of women that
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  Speaker 9: are out there suffering in silence because people are not
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  Speaker 9: talking about domestic violence and intimate partner violence and understanding
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  Speaker 9: how these things happen. And the difficulty with which the
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  Speaker 9: women find themselves and being able to extricate themselves from
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  Speaker 9: these relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Again, the husband of Niki Chin is not a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Let me be clear.
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  Speaker 2: He has not been named a suspect in Nikki's disappearance.
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  Speaker 2: He is innocent until he is charged and taken to
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  Speaker 2: court if that day should ever come, and proven guilty
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  Speaker 2: beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. However,
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  Speaker 2: it's sop started operating procedure. When a woman goes missing,
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  Speaker 2: or when a man goes missing, for that matter, when
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  Speaker 2: a woman is killed or a man is killed for
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  Speaker 2: that matter, the first place you look is the husband
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  Speaker 2: or wife, the lover, the ex lover, the ex boyfriend,
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  Speaker 2: all the way back to the middle school boyfriend for
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  Speaker 2: Pete's sake, that has been lovelorn and pining all these years.
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  Speaker 2: I mean to you, Ted Tobias joining Us, author of
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  Speaker 2: No Body homicide Cases.
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  Speaker 1: That's where you start a criminal investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Why there doesn't have to be any proof, it's statistics. Statistically,
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  Speaker 2: it's those closest to the missing or murdered victim. That's
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  Speaker 2: typically where the fault lies, but not always.
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  Speaker 7: That's absolutely right, though, Nancy, what you're talking about is
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  Speaker 7: statistically and nobody cases you have something like fifty four
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  Speaker 7: percent are domestically related husband and wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, ex husband,
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  Speaker 7: ex wife, parent child. That is the majority of these
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  Speaker 7: types of murders, which we don't know that we have
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  Speaker 7: that here, of course, because Nikki is still missing, but
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  Speaker 7: it certainly seems after seven months that that may be, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 7: where we might be headed. And of course in that investigation,
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  Speaker 7: you're going to start with the husband.
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  Speaker 10: The sisters of Nicki Chang Slee McCain say what tip
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  Speaker 10: them off about their sister's suspicious disappearance were the messages
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  Speaker 10: they got from her husband, Tyler McCain. Previously, when Nicki
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  Speaker 10: would leave after a fight with Tyler McCain, Tyler would
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  Speaker 10: contact her sisters telling them to pass along messages to Nicki,
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  Speaker 10: tell her I love her, tell her I'm sorry. But
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  Speaker 10: this time he didn't. This time when he texted the sisters,
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  Speaker 10: he texted, I think she's missing. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 10: think she's missing talking to the sun Us. Nikki's sister,
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  Speaker 10: cave Forward says, so his response was different than normal,
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  Speaker 10: and that was definitely a factor for us in starting
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  Speaker 10: to worry.
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  Speaker 3: I think she was afraid, so she wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: I'm your older sister and I'm okay, and she didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to scare me.
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  Speaker 11: We didn't know to which degree it had escalated. The
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  Speaker 11: incident in December was definitely eye opened it for us,
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  Speaker 11: but she was so terrified.
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  Speaker 2: Where is Nikki Chang joining me? In addition to an
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  Speaker 2: all star panel to analyze what we know so far?
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  Speaker 2: Her two sisters, Chloe and Kay Well listen to this.
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  Speaker 10: Family and friends of Niki Chang Sale McCain continue to
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  Speaker 10: show their support for the missing mother of four. Whenever
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  Speaker 10: her husband, Tyler McCain shows up for a court appearance,
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  Speaker 10: a crowd gathers showing support for Nicki. Crowdsing not as
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  Speaker 10: big as they were months ago, but still they gathered
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  Speaker 10: to seek justice and try to bring Niki Chang Sale
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  Speaker 10: McCain home. May chow Lee, one of the supporters, attends
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  Speaker 10: the rally wearing a T shirt that says, just for Nicki.
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  Speaker 2: If his brutal assault charges were dropped, and they were
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  Speaker 2: allegations he horribly beat Nikki prior to her going missing,
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  Speaker 2: those charges were dropped, so why is he going back
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  Speaker 2: to court?
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  Speaker 12: The most recent arrest for Tyler McCain is a traffic
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  Speaker 12: related offense. He was arrested for driving on a suspended
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  Speaker 12: license in a car without a license plate. During that stop,
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  Speaker 12: deputies found ammunition in his car. That ammunition violated his
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  Speaker 12: criminal protective order and that is what got him arrested.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Lysis Drestchuk joining US Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,
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  Speaker 2: explain to me why this guy keeps going to court.
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  Speaker 2: If the assault charges on Niki were all dropped, why
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  Speaker 2: is he in court.
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  Speaker 8: So there was a protective order against him, and when
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  Speaker 8: you're have a protective order, you can't have guns or
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  Speaker 8: ammunition or things like that.
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  Speaker 1: So he got pulled over for a trive violation.
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  Speaker 8: I believe he didn't have the license plate on his car,
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  Speaker 8: which is illegal. So they pulled him over, they ran
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  Speaker 8: his name, and they realized that there was a protective
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  Speaker 8: order against him in the car. There was ammunition that
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  Speaker 8: the police saw, and so that is what lamathaim and
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  Speaker 8: jailis has nothing to do with her with Nicky's disappearance
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  Speaker 8: at all. It's a violation of his protective order.
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  Speaker 2: To Chloe, this is Nicki's sister. What happened to the
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  Speaker 2: fire incident.
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  Speaker 5: So after the investigation, it was Tyler was cited for it,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: and he did admit to the fire and saying that
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: it was just an accident.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: And we believe that the fire in investigation is still ongoing.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you mean by that.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think they've closed the case yet. I think
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: they're still investigating it. But right after the fire, Tyler
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: was the one that went up to the reporter and
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: said that he accidentally started the fire.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I do know this.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It was confirmed that an individual who is McKay was
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: cited for being involved in starting a fire in Alinda.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Now I'm trying to figure out exactly what happened there.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: The homeowner is Tyler McCain and he confirmed he's the
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: person who was cited for starting the fire. It's my understanding.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: He says the fire was ignited after he parked a
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: car on dry gas. The fire was started by a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: failed catalytic converter that expelled hot fragments into dry grass.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Now that's the way I understand it, Kay, Is that correct?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Is that what he told authorities at the time correct?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Because you know Tad Debias joining us former assistant US
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: attorney and author of nobody homicide cases. Very often after
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: a crime is committed, you see the perp try to
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: destroy evidence, like what might be in a car.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, Nancy. Again, very common in any type of murder
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: case where you have some time to try and destroy evidence,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: be it in a car, it could be in a house.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: You're going to try and clean up if you can,
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: and if you can't clean it up, you may try
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: to destroy it. We're not saying that's what happened here,
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: but certainly a suspicious fire on the property of Tyler
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: McCain burning up a car owned by him, The timing
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: is certainly very suspicious in connection to when his wife
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: went missing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, I want to review the timeline too, Kay, this
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: is Nicki's sister. Do you recall the day that you
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: realized Niki was missing?
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: The mate was the last contact with the family. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: when we realized that she was missing was the twenty thirds,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: it was a few days later or twenty it was
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the Wednesday. It was the falling Wednesday is when we
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: all got into a separate family group text analyze our
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: timeline the last communications, and that was when we came
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: to that conclusion.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Now I know that the fire started July third, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: up until that time, Nicki's disappearance has largely been treated
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: as a missing person's case. Now let me stress again,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Tyler McCain has not been named as a suspect in
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the disappearance or death of Niki Chang. That has not happened, however,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons. In other cases, we often see evidence destroyed
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: after someone goes missing.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Let me just throw out the case of Brian Walsh.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, his wife Anna went missing and her body has
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: never been found. But Brian Walsh, her husband went on
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: a cleaning extravaganza. Not good enough, but he did. After
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: she goes missing. Evidence I believe was destroyed.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Big question here, Nancy too.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: July third, That fire by the catalytic converter was two
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: days before Tyler McCain is due back in court on
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: the domestic violence charges. So you know, making the correlation
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: that there was a potential for him destroying evidence is
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: really strong.
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: Here hubby sets fire to a car while wife reported missing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 13: Where is Niki Chang? Sale McCain that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Case, The torching of the car was deemed, as of
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: right now to be an accident. That said, what's happening
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: now many people claiming there are no new clues and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: this search for Nicki chang I disagree Listen.
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: The Reading Rancheria, in an email to Dayline, says both
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: local and warranted searches were conducted on the property, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: they are unsure where exactly Nicki was last seen and
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: are unaware of any evidence that would indicate Niki disappeared
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: on the reservation. When Nicki vanished, so did her Chevy Avalanche,
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: and the Shasta County Sheriff's Office located it in western
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: Tahama County, about an hour's drive from the Reading Rancheria.
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: When it was located, there was no sign of Niki
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: Chang Si a game.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'm very curious as to whether the interior of her
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: off her Chevy had been wiped down to Alexis estat
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: crime online dot Com investigative reporter tell me about the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: discovery of her vehicle.
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: So it was found weeks later, and it was home
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: fifteen miles away from where she supposedly dropped it off.
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: She was supposed to drop it off at her mother
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: in law's home, the mother of her husband. That's where
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: she kind of disappeared.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: She was supposed to drop it off and get a
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: ride home.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Nobody knows what happened to her after if she got
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: to the house, dropped it off, and then the car
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: was not found for weeks. But it was found fifteen
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: miles away from the mother in law's home, straight out.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: To Nikki's sisters joining us continuing the search for Nikki,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Chloe and Kay joining me. Chloe sally where her vehicle
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: was discovered that was an hour away? Is that within
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: any route she normally took, Like you can look at
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: victim's typical routes, Like a mom goes to the school,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: she goes to work, she may go to the grocery store,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and she comes home, Yes, Sarah variations. Maybe she go
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: visits friends or relatives, Maybe she goes to a workout class,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: maybe she goes to the mall. But there is a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: route that mom normally takes. What about where her Chevy
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: was found, because as I recall, it was in a
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: very odd area, way off the beaten path, as if
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: it had been part as I recall, underneath an overpassed,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: as if it were put there not to be found.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Yet that area is Nikki wouldn't have no reason driving
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: out in that area.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Kay and Chloe, Where is your understanding as to where
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: her vehicle was found?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not sure. I believe it was. There was
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: one location that we thought the vehicle was left, but
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I believe it was found another location that's just as remote.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You know, Brian Fitzgibbons joining us USPA Nationwide Security. It's
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: my understanding that law enforcement released the shot of that overpass, but.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Where the vehicle was found was somewhere very different.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: The vehicle was actually found about twenty miles to the
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: west on a pull off off of Bowman Road, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: I believe it's Route thirty six heading in a westerly direction.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, are you saying Beaumont, Bowman, Bowman, Bowma n Okay.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Back to Chloe and k with that development, alter your
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: opinion that the location where vehicles found is far out
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of the realm of her normal route.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Did she have anything going on in Bowman?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Work there, visit there, friends there, family there, anything.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long way away.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Tyler Stanley does have property out there, but that's not
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: it's typically a vacant. They don't live there on a
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: regular basis, so they do have property out there, but
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: there's no reason for her to be driving out there
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: or visiting for any reason, especially in the middle of
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: the night or without Tyler.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, question who has property out there?
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Tyler's family, his grandma, and I think uncle and some cousins.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand this and let me make sense
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: what I'm hearing. Chloe, k are you telling me her
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: vehicle was found in the vicinity of his family's property,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: property that they owned.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's correct.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, Delatory again, no one has been named a suspect
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: in Nikki Chanin's disappearance. Let's just be clear about that, doctor, Delatory.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Dare I bring up Scott Peterson again? But Scott Peterson
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: was quite the fisher. Correct, and Lacey's body was dumped
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: at a marina near his home, San Francisco Bake Marina.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: That is where witnesses spot him coming in towing the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: boat behind him, which many believe carried Lacey's body on it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Then he disappears into the tree line. He cannot be seen.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: He first said he was going to play golf, that
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: he did play golf that day, but then rot row
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the Marina employee Stydah no, no, no, no, I saw
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: him coming here, and there's probably video surveillance of that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: But that said, he went, oh yeah, I didn't go
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: play golf. I went fishing on a cold, rainy day
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, placing himself at the location where the body
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: was dumped. Now, again, the husband in this case has
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: not been named a suspect. But wouldn't you agree, generally speaking,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: doctor delatory, I mean, everybody thinks silently if you had
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to bury a body off the top of your head,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: where would you go?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I know where I would go.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I would go to a little known spot called Seven
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Bridges in rural bib County that we had to cross
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: every day we went from our home to the city
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: of Making. It's nothing but swamp, okay, nothing, but that's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: where I would go.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Who would think to look there?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: So why is it that we find a fairies doings
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: proof and a place where the purp is familiar?
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: Well, it's because it's exactly what you just said, because
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: it's familiar. No one is saying that any of these
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: individuals are criminal masterminds, like highly sophisticated thinking through all
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: of the different consequences and playing chess. It sounds to
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: me like Tyler tends to maybe be a checkers player
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: as opposed to a chess player. So it's not uncommon
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: then to think that if something were to happen, let
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: me do the thing that I know the best, let
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: me let me go to the place that I know
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: the best.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Let me go.
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: To to engage in the behaviors that I know I
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: can do the best. You do the these kinds of
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: things because you are aroused to the point that you're
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: not thinking straight and you're not thinking through how you
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: should be engaging in criminal and criminal behaviors. You're engaging
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: in behaviors that you are comfortable in engaging in.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: That vehicle found near the property of Nicki Chang's husband's family.
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: Tyler McCain has been married to Nicky Sale McCain for
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: thirteen years, and they have four children together. Tyler McCain's
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: criminal record includes a felony burglary charge in two thousand
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: and eight, then a DUI in twenty twenty, driving on
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: a suspended license January twenty twenty three, driving suspended August
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: twenty twenty three, driving suspended October twenty twenty three, then
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: on December sixth, twenty twenty three, fel any corporal injury
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: to a spouse, fel any false imprisonment, fell any criminal threats.
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: Describing the victim in the alleged assault by Tyler McCain,
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: the deputy pointed out the woman was only four feet
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: eleven inches tall and weighing one hundred pounds. She could
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: not defend herself against the much bigger and stronger Tyler McCain.
• 30:59
  Speaker 13: Hubby to a car while wife reported missing. Where is
• 31:04
  Speaker 13: Niki Chang Sale McCain?
• 31:07
  Speaker 14: The NorCal Alliance for the Missing set up a Facebook
• 31:10
  Speaker 14: page Help a Fine Nikki Chang Sale McCain and has
• 31:14
  Speaker 14: more than four thousand followers with active posts from family
• 31:17
  Speaker 14: and friends. The page is very active and provides updates
• 31:21
  Speaker 14: about justice rallies and reminders that Nikki is still missing.
• 31:25
  Speaker 14: The page has a reminder that there is a thirty
• 31:27
  Speaker 14: thousand dollars reward money available for information that leads to
• 31:31
  Speaker 14: locating Niki Chang Sale McCain.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Two Nikki's sisters, Chloe Sally and kay Ford. Chloe do
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you feel or believe.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: That law enforcement is continuing to search for Nicky?
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Who? Do you think law enforcement is actively investigating the case.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: There are other activities going on in town, so there
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: might be some more focused one at certain times that
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: we are in consistent communication with them, So even if
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: there's nothing to report, they are still checking in with us.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: So we do feel that they are actively investigating.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Still got a question for the sisters. Is a husband
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: still in touch with you regarding the search for Nikki?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: His wife?
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: The communications, if any, have mostly been initiated on our part,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: so any searchers or anything like that. We haven't been
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: in communication with him about.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Does he continue to call you retainly?
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: He No, Yeah, I have not gotten a phone call
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: from him.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: I think it's been about maybe since this summer was
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: the last time he called me. But I did go
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: to his house on the day of Nikki's birthday, which
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: was November nine, and what happened I my older brother
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: was there. My older brother to ask Tyler like where
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: is she?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Where is she?
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: Man?
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: And I remember asking Tyler, can you please you have
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: a lot of resources, you have all these connections. Can
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: you please help us and can you please just help
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: us come look for nick? He and his responses, Yeah,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: of course I'll do anything. But I believe that actions
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: speak louder than words.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: And what have been his actions to help us?
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I asked him?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: There have been in no action?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, I think I'm translating, but you are relatives. Went
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: and said please help us find her, and he said
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: sure and.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Then did nothing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing, No phone call and he calls beyond random
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: different phone numbers, and now I pick up every phone
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: call I get, hoping maybe it's him wanting to help,
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: but unfortunately it's it's not him.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Where are Nicky's children now?
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: They are base day between Coloye and myself.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Jesse, come see the children.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: He's not allowed to see the children based on a
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: previously established court order through their tribe, and I.
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: Think I understand why. Listen Wednesday night, around eight thirty,
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: Nicky Sale McCain is in her bedroom combing her hair.
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: Her husband of thirteen years, Tyler McCain, arrives home in
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: a strange mood. In a matter of minutes for no
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: ap pair of Tyler McCain aggressively jumps on top of Niki,
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: holding her on the ground, then dragging her around, yelling
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: what are you doing? Nicki SALEA McCain says Tyler McCain's
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: eyes are glazed over, like he's having some type of
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: mental episode. Nicky tries calming her husband, but it doesn't work,
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: and he holds her down and begins hitting her in
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: the face. The terror escalates over a three hour period,
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: with McCain binding Nicki's wrists and ankles together with tape,
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: putting tape over her mouth so she couldn't speak properly,
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: rolling his wife onto her stomach. Tyler McCain sits on
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: her back, pulling her hair back, forcefully pulling her head
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: back and telling her he's going to kill.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Her Somehow covered and bruises in with black eyes. Nicki
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: manages to get loose from her bindings, grabs a robe,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: keys runs out, gets in her car. McCain chases her
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: out of the home, jumps on the hood of her car,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: telling her to stop ignoring him. She flees to safety
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: at her sister's home. Back out to the sister's Chloe
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: and Kave, what do you recall that evening?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: I didn't hear what happened until a few nights after,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: But when she was telling me about it, tell me
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: about what had happened that the evening, I was very
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: shocked and just from looking at Nikki, she looked horrible,
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: and I knew that it's something. This is not right,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: This is not how a person should be.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: What does look like?
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Her face was swollen, her both her eyes were black.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't even I couldn't even recognize her. She looks
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: so different, and I was terrified looking at her because
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: how bad she.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Looked as terrestak. Are those the charges that have been dropped?
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: Yes, for now they are?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: What do you mean for now they are?
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: Well, the charges haven't dropped because they said that there
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: is there she Nikki is not there to testify against him,
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: But they haven't been They're not dropped, and they can't
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: ever be refiled again. The district attorney has been very
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: clear saying we're doing this now because if something else happens,
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: if any new evidence comes forward, this will enable us to.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Go forth with new charges. Tad Debias joining us.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Author of nobody homicide case is former prosecutor as a
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: fed TAD. I recall when all the evidence was gone
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: where the case couldn't be prosecuted, defense attorneys would beg
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: me to null pross a case, which would mean it
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: could never be revived. No way, we had a tool
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: called a dead docket, which basically means it's taken off
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the court docket and it will be revived when the
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: evidence is found.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: There's a big difference.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And in this case, apparently, and I know you're familiar
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: with this, those charges are simply dead docketed.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: They're not an all prost. That's correct, Nancy.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: You can have a case dismissed with prejudice or without prejudice.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: When it's dismissed with prejudice, it means it cannot be
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: brought again. In this case, what the prosecute data essentially
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: is dismiss the case on their own without prejudice, which
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: means that the case can be rebrought.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Where is Niki Chain now?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Many people are stating there is no new evidence. I disagree.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons is joining me, Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security. Brian,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: what should be done now?
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: So there's been quite a bit of public searching for Nicki,
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: and I think right now we need to keep this
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: reward out there. We need to keep that Nikki's information
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: alive on these social media platforms because someone out there
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: knows something about what happened in Niki and it's just
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: a matter of time before they come forward.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: To doctor John delatorre, forensic psychologists, what do you believe
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: needs to be done now? And let me remind everyone again,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the husband is not a suspect. He has not been arrested,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: he has not been charged, he has not been named
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: suspect in Nikki's disappearance. We don't know what happened to Nicki.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Doctor John delatory what should be done now?
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: To me?
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: I think it's pressure to me. I think you need
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: to pressure Tyler McCain's family. A lot of times people
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: are willing to do certain things for family members that
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: unless you start getting like actual law enforcement pressure on
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  Speaker 9: you that you don't recognize as being kind of problematic.
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  Speaker 9: So the more pressure you can put on the family,
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  Speaker 9: the more pressure you can put on the community, the
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  Speaker 9: more the community actually bands together to keep Nicki's name
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  Speaker 9: out there. I think all of that type of pressure
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  Speaker 9: can can shake some things loose and the truth can
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  Speaker 9: be revealed.
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  Speaker 2: And to Chloe and Kay, Nicki's sisters who still continue
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  Speaker 2: the search for Nicki, what is your message sisters.
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  Speaker 5: Plans keep sharing Nicky's story, Please don't stop talking about her,
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  Speaker 5: Just like what was said, we need the pressure on
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  Speaker 5: so that someone can come forward.
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  Speaker 4: And we're still searching all the time, whether it be
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  Speaker 4: online or through records and making connections, and we have
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  Speaker 4: a group of people who are still still working very
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  Speaker 4: hard to find some answers. So we want everyone to
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  Speaker 4: still stay built, stay stay vigilant, and keep your eyes
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  Speaker 4: on everything on the case.
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  Speaker 2: The reward has now climbed to thirty thousand dollars. If
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  Speaker 2: you know or think you know anything about the disappearance
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  Speaker 2: of Nikki Chain, please dial five three zero two four
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  Speaker 2: five six five for zero.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Repeat five three zero.
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  Speaker 2: Two four five six ' five four zero. We remember
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  Speaker 2: an American hero police Chief Christopher Cummings Samberg PD, Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: chief comings passed away in the line of duty, serving
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement twenty nine years plus a US Army vet
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  Speaker 2: and Tennessee National Guard vet. Survived by son Matthew Stepson
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  Speaker 2: Easton and partner April. American hero chief of police Christopher Cummings.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.