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- 0:00Well, good morning, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the ABA Coffee In The Park.
- 0:06My name is Cam Milliken, and I am here with my co-host extraordinaire, the amazing Jennifer Herrick, the executive director of the Acheson Business Association.
- 0:16Good morning, Jennifer.
- 0:17Good morning, Cam.
- 0:18How are you this morning?
- 0:18Oh, man, I'm doing good.
- 0:20It's a good day today, and we want to tell everybody that we are coming to you from the Wall Coffee Roasters in the heart of beautiful Downtown Acheson.
- 0:32That's right.
- 0:32Hey, Jennifer, we came off an amazing weekend.
- 0:36Cam, we had the gala.
- 0:38Yes.
- 0:38And boy, what an event.
- 0:40It was an event.
- 0:41It was fantastic.
- 0:42And you might hear it in our voices a little bit because we're still recovering.
- 0:46Yeah, I'm a bit scratchy still.
- 0:48But we had an amazing weekend.
- 0:50Tell us a little bit about it, Jennifer, because people want to know what went on.
- 0:53We had a sold out event of over 300 people at the Double Tree Hilton, West Edmonton.
- 0:59They did a fantastic job.
- 1:01We had a beautiful four course meal.The meal was incredible We celebrated and recognized so many people.
- 1:06It was.
- 1:07No, it was.
- 1:08Yeah, it was.
- 1:10What do you call those things?
- 1:11Those short ribs?
- 1:12Short ribs.
- 1:13Unbelievable.
- 1:14They were great.
- 1:14Well, it was a harvest theme.
- 1:16So that's what we did.
- 1:16It was a harvest farm to table meal and it was fantastic.
- 1:19It was a beautiful night.
- 1:20We gave away a bunch of awards.
- 1:22We ended it off with the Lifetime Achievement Award to Wes Wall, co-founder and CEO of Genics.
- 1:28That's right.
- 1:28So it was a really, really great night.
- 1:31Jennifer, thank you for everything you did for that and all the work you put into it.
- 1:34And we had a lot of fun and it was really great.
- 1:37But today we're here and we get to do another podcast and I'm really excited about that.
- 1:41Tell us about our guest.
- 1:43Well, before we do that, we want to thank our gold corporate sponsors, which include the MyShak Group of Companies, Genics and of course, Parkland County.
- 1:50We couldn't do what we do at the Acheson Business Association without these businesses, so we like to thank them for their continued support.
- 1:57Yeah, and we appreciate everything they do for us.
- 1:59Now, Jennifer, we can talk about our guest.
- 2:02Tell us about our guest because I'm pretty excited this morning.
- 2:05Well, this guest, actually Cam, joined us at our gala on Saturday night.
- 2:10Our guest this week is Mr.
- 2:12Darren Hinkel, who is the owner operator of The Black Dirt Company and Spruce Grove.
- 2:16The Black Dirt Company, I love that name.
- 2:18That's awesome.
- 2:19Welcome, Darren.
- 2:20Well, hello, you two.
- 2:20Thank you very much for having me.
- 2:22Yeah, good to have you.
- 2:23The Black Dirt Company.
- 2:24I love that.
- 2:25That's an awesome name.
- 2:26That's just really cool.
- 2:27So Darren, tell us a little bit about yourself.
- 2:31Where did you grow up?
- 2:32How did that all begin?
- 2:34Honestly, just I'm a small town kid from Stony Plain, Alberta.
- 2:39My parents, they started the Black Dirt Company.
- 2:43And of course, when I went to school in Stony Plain, so I went to Stony Plain Central.
- 2:49That's what it was named at the time.
- 2:50And my parents basically were farmers and contractors.
- 2:54And so all I know about them is that they woke up very early, they worked very late, and they worked very hard.
- 3:01And so as I'm going to school, I was in charge, right?
- 3:05I was in charge of myself.
- 3:07And that's not because they weren't good parents.
- 3:09They were busy working.
- 3:10And there's a lot to be said for that.
- 3:13So yeah, Stony Plain kid, I grew up on a farm.
- 3:17So I was always around heavy equipment.
- 3:19I was always around that hard work mentality.
- 3:22And then when I finished school, I decided I wanted to be the furthest thing away from my parents as I could be.
- 3:29Like most kids.
- 3:30Yeah, like most kids.
- 3:30Yeah, that's right.
- 3:31I don't know if I was rebelling or what the case was.
- 3:33Yeah, do you have any brothers or sisters?
- 3:35I have a sister, yes.
- 3:36She's older by five years.
- 3:37Yeah, her name is Amy.
- 3:39She lives in Langley, BC.
- 3:40Oh, good old Langley.
- 3:41Yeah, awesome.
- 3:42That's great.
- 3:43Yeah, I mean.
- 3:44So yeah, so you got to the point where you thought, I don't want to do that.
- 3:47That's right.
- 3:48That's right.
- 3:48I wanted to maybe wear a suit and tie, work downtown Edmonton a little bit, maybe run a bank or run a branch of a bank.
- 3:55So I worked for Service Credit Union for 10 years.
- 3:57And I was a bank manager and I was at that fork in the road, actually, where I was going to either work my way up in management, right.
- 4:05So there's different levels of management, small branches, medium sized branches, large branches.
- 4:09And a lot of times branch managers, once they get to that large branch, which I wasn't quite there yet.
- 4:13I was well on my way though.
- 4:15I was only 29 years old at the time.
- 4:18So I was considered very young to be in that situation.
- 4:21So the hard work paid off, that's something I learned from my parents.
- 4:26But that fork in the road either I continue on that path and maybe end up even at the head office level where maybe I would be at a, maybe be working with the executives of the company.
- 4:37That's kind of where I thought I was going.
- 4:39And is that what you wanted to do?
- 4:40Is that where you?
- 4:41I did, I did, but I got thinking a little.
- 4:43Like if I'm going to work that much or that hard, sometimes the question is, what if you just did it for yourself at one point?
- 4:53But I didn't have those opportunities slapping me around.
- 4:55So I was safe, I was comfortable.
- 4:59I liked the job, I liked the company, I liked everything.
- 5:02But my parents actually called me one day and they were trying to sell the company.
- 5:06But they didn't know really who or how or what, or any of that.
- 5:10So they asked me for some advice.
- 5:12So I dug into the financials and it's a small company.
- 5:14It's a small company with a lot of hard work put into it, a little bit of promise, for sure.
- 5:20And I was at that fork in the road.
- 5:22So long story short, I said, I'll leave Service Credit Union, I'll come work for you guys and I'll help you sell it.
- 5:30So let's talk about that for a second, because I imagine that was a pretty major life.
- 5:35Like you don't just go, I'm leaving and I'll come help you.
- 5:39Tell us about your own process of figuring that out a little bit.
- 5:42Well, I was not certain that what I was doing was correct or right.
- 5:47I didn't know I was going on the right path.
- 5:49I didn't know if this was going to be a major turning point in my life where I couldn't come back if I should I want to.
- 5:56Even though the door was left open.
- 5:58When I resigned from the company, they were very good.
- 6:00They didn't walk me out, none of those things.
- 6:02I still worked out, I gave them a month's notice, and I worked to the very last day, and they took me out for lunch, they thanked me for my service and everything like that.
- 6:10They said, just so you know, that door is always open for you should you come back.
- 6:14Wow, that's great.
- 6:14So it was, it was amazing.
- 6:16And so when I left, I was uncertain because of course, because of course I had to put in the work, not because I came in at a high level, I had to come in, right?
- 6:27And the only way my parents would have it is, you start at the very, I guess for lack of a better word, you start at the bottom.
- 6:33You start at the bottom.
- 6:35It's kind of funny, Jennifer, because we've interviewed a few guests now, and there's a few stories like this.
- 6:40You know what?
- 6:41Absolutely.
- 6:41It is that it's an entrepreneurial spirit, but it's also that mentality of family business.
- 6:48You don't just get handed the keys to the kingdom.
- 6:50Yeah.
- 6:51Career change or whatever, you're in the family business, you don't become CEO as the first job.
- 6:56That's right.
- 6:56Yeah.
- 6:56You start at the bottom.
- 6:57So that's interesting.
- 6:58And your parents thought this is the way you got to learn the business.
- 7:01That's right.
- 7:01So were you married at the time?
- 7:03I was married.
- 7:03And how did your wife feel about this change?
- 7:05Because you went from sort of security to now you're...
- 7:10Honestly, she's the biggest supporter.
- 7:12Wow, that's great.
- 7:13Like, if you want it, Darren, you're going to go and you're going to do it, you're going to do it well, go get it.
- 7:18Yeah.
- 7:18You know, so there was no issues there.
- 7:20Great.
- 7:20Right.
- 7:20And the only challenging part was, of course, you know, in the summer months, I was a yard attendant when I started.
- 7:25Right.
- 7:26And I was helping customers, whether it's five gallon pails, whether it's, you know, loading a half share of another dirt, you know, the hustle and bustle, get up early, stay late, grease your machine, all that stuff.
- 7:37But all while trying to manage the business end a little bit too, and try to help.
- 7:43And then winter came, of course, now I'm working odd days as much as I'm doing nights.
- 7:47And I found myself cleaning a lot of the parking lots of the financial institutions that I competed with back in my day.
- 7:53So that's probably a good way to tell us a little bit about what your company does, because everybody's like, okay, so what does this guy do?
- 8:01Tell us a little bit about the company so we just kind of understand, and then we'll pick it up from there and go on.
- 8:06So The Black Dirt Company, first and foremost, we're a landscape supply company.
- 8:11So we have a retail landscape center in Spruce Grove, just a few minutes west of Acheson.
- 8:18But we're also a trucking company, so we deliver bulk materials in our dump trucks.
- 8:24And then we really hang our hat on our name.
- 8:27We're The Black Dirt Company, that name actually happened all by accident and all by mistake 30 years ago.
- 8:34Now you got to tell us the story.
- 8:35You can't just say that.
- 8:36You got to tell us the story.
- 8:38So basically what it is, so my dad being a farmer and a contractor, he worked for one of the landowners here.
- 8:42His name is Gil Cook.
- 8:44And actually they're just currently developing that piece of property on Campsite Road right across from the Superstore in Spruce Grove.
- 8:50So that's really exciting.
- 8:51But at the time, it was farmland, and Gil wanted to strip the topsoil, screen it, and have it taken off site, so that he could start thinking about development and things like that.
- 9:03So he asked my dad, who was the farmer that contracted to him at the time, would you screen a little bit of dirt?
- 9:08And so my dad did.
- 9:11But of course, my dad, having 300 things on the go at every given time, he had my cousin Bobby working for him at the time.
- 9:18And so Bobby was working up the land, stripping the land, and then putting it through a screener, and then we were selling the dirt.
- 9:27But when people are coming in and asking, buying dirt from us, and that's great.
- 9:31But my dad felt like he needed a shack, needed maybe a land line.
- 9:36Now that sounds pretty archaic, but that's the way it was.
- 9:40So when he was having lunch one day, Bobby was having lunch one day, and minding his own business, the phone rings.
- 9:47They're not like they were open for business, per se.
- 9:49They were just doing stuff.
- 9:51And the phone rings, and he felt compelled to answer the phone, and he stutters and spits out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like The Black Dirt Company, how can I help you?
- 9:59I love it.
- 9:59And we took it from there.
- 10:01I love it.
- 10:02That has got to be the best story of how a name came about.
- 10:05That is, people spend thousands of dollars on marketing companies, and it's just that, the first thing that comes out of your mouth.
- 10:12I love it.
- 10:12That's fantastic.
- 10:13That's so sorry.
- 10:14Yeah, that's just great.
- 10:16Anyways, but you know, as you're screening dirt, and of course, now we've figured out a name, obviously, and people started asking for things like stand or rock chips, or wood chips, or mulch, and just landscaping materials.
- 10:30That's kind of what it progressed to.
- 10:33So we basically, that all happened by accident too.
- 10:35So of course, when a customer asks, you can get some sand, that my parents always would say, well, we'll figure it out, we'll find a way.
- 10:42And before you know it, you have topsoil, you have sand, you have mulch, you have compost or manure.
- 10:49And before you know it, you got a garden mix, a garden blend that you're known for.
- 10:53And then Lois Hole from Holes Greenhouse was a huge fan of Keith Coney and The Black Dirt Company.
- 11:00So she promoted us.
- 11:01In fact, they used most of our materials for many of their years.
- 11:05Wow.
- 11:05That's pretty cool.
- 11:06It is cool.
- 11:07You have an advocate like that on your side.
- 11:10For anybody, I don't know, Cam, if you ever met Lois Hole, but she was a fantastic lady.
- 11:16Right.
- 11:16She was wonderful.
- 11:17Yeah, I hear so many good things about her.
- 11:19So yeah, so that's pretty cool that she'd be your advocate for that.
- 11:21I mean, any business would sure would die to have someone like that on your team, on your side.
- 11:26100%.
- 11:26And so that we were so proud of that.
- 11:28And then, of course, you know, businesses as they evolve and logistics become a part, you know, you know, and of course, Lois isn't with us anymore.
- 11:35And I never even had a chance to meet with her, but I've heard nothing but good things.
- 11:38And it's just so inspiring to hear these kind of stories about successful business owners and people.
- 11:43Okay, so the mulch, the dirt, all that stuff, that's seasonal.
- 11:49Here in lovely Alberta.
- 11:50Yes.
- 11:51Where it snows half the year.
- 11:53Today it feels like it's gonna snow.
- 11:56And so what do you do?
- 11:57Do you just, do you head to Hawaii for the next six months?
- 11:59Or?
- 12:00Well, you know, when you have all that heavy equipment and that overhead, you can't pay for it in six months.
- 12:04You know, you have to diversify, you have to pivot, you have to change.
- 12:08Mentally, you have to change your mindset, right?
- 12:11So we know how to make money when it comes to spring, summer and fall.
- 12:15Winter, different story.
- 12:16Right.
- 12:17Okay.
- 12:17But winter, we do snow removal, and we do commercial snow removal, and we're pretty selective on how we do it and who we do it for because it's a very tough world, tough business.
- 12:27Yeah.
- 12:27Yeah.
- 12:28Well, I can only imagine, I mean, we never know from one winter to the next, how much snow we're even going to get.
- 12:33Exactly.
- 12:33You know, so for you guys, it's how do you even plan for that?
- 12:36How do you even set your goal for that?
- 12:39Basically, you know, that's a great question because my parents decided to, now that Darren's involved, we'll go to Yuma, Arizona.
- 12:47This is why parents have kids.
- 12:49So that one day they can go to Yuma and we run everything for them.
- 12:52Yeah.
- 12:53So I took over the snow removal and not knowing that, actually, this is a funny story.
- 12:57So this is the truth.
- 12:58So they gave me, they gave us our customer list for snow removal.
- 13:01Right.
- 13:02So not knowing some were first night, some were the next day, some were the day after, and some were the day after that.
- 13:08Oh, right.
- 13:08Right.
- 13:08Right.
- 13:08But I did it all the first night.
- 13:12Me and, and I am embarrassed to tell you, some staff that are no longer with us for good reason.
- 13:18Because we worked like dogs.
- 13:20Yeah.
- 13:21We worked like dogs.
- 13:22And every time it snows two inches, we do the snow.
- 13:25And it snowed in 2010, guys.
- 13:27I'm sure it was record snowfall.
- 13:28Yeah.
- 13:29Yeah.
- 13:29Right.
- 13:30So we went out and out and out and out.
- 13:32And we made, actually, was one of the very few years we were profitable from snow removal because we went out so often.
- 13:37Yeah.
- 13:37Right.
- 13:38And because it was we had so much snow that if the snow wasn't removed, people weren't opening their doors.
- 13:43Wow.
- 13:43That's the truth.
- 13:44Yeah.
- 13:44That's how much it snowed.
- 13:47What a great reputation.
- 13:49I know.
- 13:49Right.
- 13:49It's like people just phone and I hear you remove this snow in 10 minutes after it snows.
- 13:53Yes.
- 13:54Can you be at my place?
- 13:55Yes.
- 13:55So I learned a few lessons.
- 13:57Of course.
- 13:57Now we're way more organized.
- 13:59We have we're core certified.
- 14:00We have a health and safety committee.
- 14:01We have we're all those things.
- 14:03We're organized.
- 14:04So we don't over commit first night.
- 14:05We do first night, second day, day after, day after, day after.
- 14:08And we're very much dialed in.
- 14:10You have to stagger that.
- 14:11Yeah, for sure.
- 14:13So Darren, you know, when we were having conversations before, you talked a little bit about some of the challenges you face coming in, taking over the business from your family.
- 14:22And one of the first challenges was you were told you had to move.
- 14:27Oh, jeez.
- 14:28Yes.
- 14:28Yes, you're right.
- 14:29How do we forget something like that?
- 14:31So my first day with The Black Dirt Company, and this is not a fabrication of the truth in any way.
- 14:37Right.
- 14:37My parents decided to get a shed, which was my office.
- 14:41Okay, so there's a desk.
- 14:42Luxury.
- 14:42Power.
- 14:43Luxury office.
- 14:44Right.
- 14:44Right next to the porta potties, right?
- 14:47And...
- 14:48Far to go.
- 14:49Yeah, it's important.
- 14:50Yeah, yeah.
- 14:52And there's an envelope on my desk and it was not opened.
- 14:55Right.
- 14:55But I think my parents maybe knew what it was.
- 14:57It was an eviction notice from the city of Spruce Grove.
- 15:00So for the last 18 years, my parents had what they considered a temporary permit.
- 15:04Where the city of Seuss Grove said, you're here temporarily because you can't be here forever.
- 15:08This is meant for something different.
- 15:09Probably at the time they wanted a hotel there.
- 15:12Right.
- 15:12Okay.
- 15:13And but 18 years have come and the city of Spruce Grove says, we're going to evict you and you have six months.
- 15:21And this was the first real thing that I was tasked with.
- 15:24Right.
- 15:25Right.
- 15:25Day one with The Black Dirt Company.
- 15:27And basically it was like this.
- 15:29So we panicked a little bit because how do you make money, run your business all while moving to another location?
- 15:36Right.
- 15:37Right.
- 15:38And so did you have another location?
- 15:40Not well, we didn't.
- 15:42But we figured it out.
- 15:43We found one.
- 15:45So we went to the Spruce Grove Industrial Park and started negotiating with the landowners, Norman Savan.
- 15:52And again, when that happened, my parents also happened to be in Yuma, Arizona.
- 15:55But luckily for me, they were motivated.
- 16:00But so was I.
- 16:01You get two motivated parties before you know it.
- 16:03You almost have a deal.
- 16:05And then I met with the senior administration, with the city of Spruce Grove, along with Jeff Acker and at the time, Mayor Houston.
- 16:11And I think they wanted to hear me out, but in the same breath, they wanted me out of that location.
- 16:19But after I said to them, I said, I have a place, I need time, give me two years, I'll make it happen.
- 16:24Right.
- 16:24Pretty bold statements.
- 16:26Yeah.
- 16:26And they're like, well, you know, we've heard this before, you know, maybe from us previously, maybe from other business owners within the community.
- 16:34You know, this is, you're just, you're just buying yourself some time.
- 16:37But we want you, we want you to know you need a place.
- 16:40So little did, little did they know.
- 16:42I literally had the industrial park in my back pocket.
- 16:46Wow.
- 16:47So day one, I met with the senior administration and the politicians.
- 16:51Day two, I met with the industrial park.
- 16:54Day three, I showed them an offer to purchase, right?
- 16:57Day four, they gave me the rubber stamp approval.
- 16:59Wow.
- 17:00Right, it was really, it was that quick.
- 17:02That's amazing.
- 17:03Because they were motivated to get us out of there, but they didn't necessarily want us to leave the Spruce Grove area.
- 17:07Right, yeah.
- 17:08But that's, but that, now that, that's, that door is open.
- 17:10That's the way it should be.
- 17:11That's the way government should be.
- 17:13I mean, just, they make it that easy for you.
- 17:15That's the way it's supposed to be.
- 17:16That's how business should operate with government.
- 17:18That's fantastic.
- 17:19Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that.
- 17:21But, you know, if I didn't have that deal in my back pocket, I don't think it would have went so well.
- 17:25Exactly.
- 17:26Right.
- 17:26So they did, but they gave me a chance.
- 17:28Yeah.
- 17:28And so we didn't want to let them down either.
- 17:30And we wanted to make something, we wanted to build something better for us and myself.
- 17:34Sure.
- 17:34If we were to move forward.
- 17:35Yeah.
- 17:36Yeah, for sure.
- 17:37And it's a benefit to Spruce Grove, to have people like you, businesses like you existing there, because you could have gone anywhere else.
- 17:44You could have, now, you could have come to Acheson.
- 17:46Well, you know, but yeah, you know, maybe one day.
- 17:49I don't know.
- 17:51We're very close to Acheson.
- 17:52You're very close to Acheson, that's right.
- 17:55And I'm so, I'm actually so, I'm so impressed because a lot of my closest business connections, who are business owners, happen to be in Acheson.
- 18:03So I'm here all the time anyways.
- 18:04Sure.
- 18:05And we should mention that you are an associate member.
- 18:07Yes.
- 18:07Of the Acheson Business Association.
- 18:08Absolutely.
- 18:09So even though you're not here, you're part of us.
- 18:12Thank you.
- 18:12So that's fantastic.
- 18:13So, okay, so you moved the company, and you're moving snow in the winter, you're moving landscaping stuff in the summer, shows what I know about it, just landscaping stuff.
- 18:24And you're running a business.
- 18:25100%, yeah.
- 18:26And you have how many employees?
- 18:28Well, when I started, we had probably more like seven to nine employees.
- 18:31Right.
- 18:33Now we have 32.
- 18:34Wow.
- 18:34Right?
- 18:34Up to 32.
- 18:35Yeah, yeah.
- 18:35Up to 32.
- 18:37We shrink in the winter, because there's real economics there.
- 18:40And then we get back into it in spring again, and we just do it over and over and over again.
- 18:44Yeah, pretty incredible.
- 18:45Yeah.
- 18:46So this is still a family business, Darren, because your wife is involved in the business as well.
- 18:50My wife is involved.
- 18:51She's our chief cultivating officer.
- 18:53Okay, so our slogan is- Our slogan is- What a great name.
- 18:56I like that.
- 18:57If you ever, if you knew my wife like some people do, it fits her.
- 19:00So Charlene Hinkel, she's my wife.
- 19:03She supports us.
- 19:04She's our chief cultivating officer.
- 19:06And she was a part of the strategic meeting where we came up with our slogan.
- 19:10So my parents came up with the slogan, You pick up where we deliver.
- 19:14Okay?
- 19:15It's a good slogan.
- 19:16But people know you pick up where we deliver.
- 19:19Now, people know this about the Black Dirt Company.
- 19:21So we've been so invested in our community as of late, especially over the last 15 years, that we wanted everyone to just resignate with what our morals and our values and are really where our growth has come from.
- 19:35So our strategic plan and with results.
- 19:40And my senior team, we decided to come up with, We Cultivate Community.
- 19:45So when you ask us, What do you do at the Black Dirt Company?
- 19:48Our response is, We Cultivate Community.
- 19:50I love this.
- 19:51Cause like once again, not spending thousands of dollars on a marketing company to get them to, you guys just, this is what we do.
- 19:57You come up with great, great name and a great slogan, and it's awesome.
- 20:01That's fantastic.
- 20:02Absolutely.
- 20:03So you cultivate community.
- 20:04And they do.
- 20:05Darren, you and your family are such wonderful community supporters, everything from local sports teams, all the way down to talk a little bit about, you know, what you did.
- 20:18This was pre-COVID, I believe, but some funding, was it for youth?
- 20:25Yes.
- 20:26So when I started with The Black Dirt Company, I was struggling with, we always have to pick our lane.
- 20:31What are we going to invest in?
- 20:33Where are we going to stick to?
- 20:35And I couldn't figure it out.
- 20:36And I was getting to the point where I was getting a little bit overwhelmed, a little bit confused.
- 20:41And so we decided to create, and it only happened for about four years, but we did amazing things in four years.
- 20:47I created a charity called Compete To Contribute.
- 20:50And I had some amazing people by my side, Josh Myshak being one of them, Cory Jodoin being another, Rosetta Taylor, Ian and Chantel, conduct.
- 21:01And it's amazing.
- 21:02We raised over $110,000 in four years by getting businesses to donate to the cause where kids, teams, youth groups would basically apply for the opportunity to compete, to contribute, to do good things in our community.
- 21:18Whether it's picking up garbage, whether it's doing a food bank drive, things like that.
- 21:24And so that was awesome.
- 21:25Then COVID sort of put an end to that.
- 21:27We haven't started it up again.
- 21:29I might not be the guy that starts that up again, but the door might be open for another younger executive group, group of executives to do something like that.
- 21:37Yeah.
- 21:38So anybody who's listening, younger or older, if this hits you, contact Darren, because I think that's phenomenal.
- 21:46That's really phenomenal.
- 21:47Absolutely.
- 21:48And so, how else are you involved in the community?
- 21:50You're doing some...
- 21:51So we, right now, just because we're so busy strategizing and trying to grow our brand and our business and our community presence, we are very involved with the Parkland Food Bank, right?
- 22:02That's great.
- 22:02We're very involved with things like kids' sport.
- 22:05Yeah.
- 22:05We're very involved with youth groups to this day.
- 22:09So Pack Hockey here in Spruce Grove, The Cougars Football Club.
- 22:14And just to name a few.
- 22:15Yeah.
- 22:15I love that.
- 22:16I mean, I think, yeah, Jennifer, you and I, that's what we love when businesses are just giving back to the community.
- 22:22Like, that's just huge.
- 22:23That's massive.
- 22:24So I don't think the community would be where it is without business.
- 22:30Right.
- 22:30And you know what?
- 22:32I will go as far as to say it is not your, you know, big retail global international businesses giving back.
- 22:41It's businesses like Darren and Charlene's that are giving back.
- 22:44100% I agree with that.
- 22:44It's the small to medium-sized local family-run businesses that support this community.
- 22:49Yeah, and they're in there and they're giving back.
- 22:51And that's fantastic.
- 22:52Darren, you were mentioning, and so sort of on that vein, but I think in a very unique way, you were mentioning earlier when we were talking about mentoring and mentoring young business guys.
- 23:03Tell us about that a little bit, because I think that's fantastic.
- 23:06Well, yes, but you know, so I have a group of people that rely on me for just a sounding board, right?
- 23:13And when we talk about mentorship, sometimes you just need to talk to one business owner to another business owner, where they've seen that you've grown, they've seen that you've overcome some challenges or some hurdles.
- 23:25They know that you've been in a bad spot, a rock and a hard place before, once or twice before.
- 23:31And so that you get them alone, whether it's a coffee or a beer.
- 23:35And it's just the two of you, so you're in a safe spot.
- 23:37You can say whatever you want, it's never going to be used against you.
- 23:40And when you start sharing stories and advice, that's mentorship, right?
- 23:44I love that.
- 23:45I'm becoming more and more of a big advocate on that because I think, and you know, it's interesting, Jennifer, because I think in a way that's kind of what we hoped for the podcast was to tell the story behind the story and to allow, because there's business people out there going through the same stuff you went through Darren, like the same growth situations, the struggles, the same challenges.
- 24:08And they're listening to this going, I'm not alone.
- 24:11Somebody else went through this too.
- 24:13Because sometimes you get siloed a little bit and you think, am I the only one going through this?
- 24:17But you're not.
- 24:18And so listening to you, I think it's a major encouragement to people.
- 24:21Well, for sure.
- 24:22I mean, so I have no problem saying that my mentors right now, and I'm just naming some of them that come off the top.
- 24:28I have probably six or seven of them.
- 24:31They don't even know it.
- 24:32It's not even officially designated.
- 24:33Like you're my mentor.
- 24:35But Ed Stahl from Stahl Peterbilt, he's a mentor of mine.
- 24:38I've been watching that guy since I've gotten into business.
- 24:41And what he does is phenomenal.
- 24:45Cory Jodoin with Jen-Col, he's a guy that I rely on heavily.
- 24:54You know, it's hard for us to sit down and talk with our employees about these situations because of course, when you're the owner, you know, when you're insecure about something or uncertain about something, it's not something that you want to do and lead off a meeting with your staff saying, hey, I'm unsure about where we're heading.
- 25:13You know, you don't want that uncertainty within your company.
- 25:15So that's why mentorship is so important.
- 25:17Actually, sorry, Victor Morose, right, with Royal LePage.
- 25:21That man is an amazing person to just get ahold of, just to have a drink with, and listen to what he has to say, because it is smart stuff that comes out of his mouth.
- 25:30Experience, right?
- 25:32Iron sharpens iron.
- 25:33So that's fantastic.
- 25:35Well, Darren, this has been fantastic, and we can't thank you enough for coming on this podcast and sharing your amazing journey with us.
- 25:42But we do have a final question that we ask all of our guests.
- 25:46So Darren, what is the best piece of advice you've been given, either personally or professionally, that you carry with you to this day?
- 25:55Well, okay, this is, it's so simple, guys.
- 25:58It's so simple.
- 25:59The best piece of advice that I've ever been given, you just got to do you.
- 26:03Yeah.
- 26:04Because anytime you don't do that, it will show sooner or later.
- 26:07It will show up.
- 26:08Yeah.
- 26:09It will show up.
- 26:10Yeah.
- 26:10I like that.
- 26:11Just do you.
- 26:12Yeah.
- 26:13I mean, it's not perfect all the time, but just do you.
- 26:16Yeah.
- 26:17Because at the end of the day, that's what it is.
- 26:19It's pretty hard to fake your way through your own values.
- 26:21Yes, exactly.
- 26:22You know, and I, that's a great point because I think when you do that, people can read through that.
- 26:27Sure.
- 26:28They can see right through that.
- 26:29So they know when you're not being you, they know when you're trying to be something else.
- 26:33So I think that's fantastic.
- 26:34Well, so Darren, how do people find out about you?
- 26:37Do you have a website?
- 26:38We have a website.
- 26:39Tell us about that.
- 26:40That's easy.
- 26:40www.blackdirtcompany.com.
- 26:43We have social medias, right?
- 26:45We have Instagram, Facebook.
- 26:48We're big on those two platforms.
- 26:49Yeah, that's fantastic.
- 26:51So folks, in the spring and summer and fall months, if you're needing all that landscaping stuff, now you know where to go.
- 26:58And in the winter, I don't know what it's going to do this winter, but you know, businesses, if you need some snow removal, make sure you give Darren a jingle and get that on board.
- 27:08And Darren, I think that's amazing.
- 27:09What a great story you have.
- 27:11Your parents, are they...
- 27:14Well, my parents are still around.
- 27:15Are they in Yuma already?
- 27:16They're not.
- 27:17Not yet?
- 27:18That was their first phase of semi-retirement.
- 27:20Right.
- 27:20Now they're fully retired, I think.
- 27:23I think, and I say that because my dad always likes to surprise everybody with a new business venture of some kind, but basically, they're at the shuswaps all summer long.
- 27:31Okay.
- 27:31Yeah.
- 27:32Okay.
- 27:33Well, that's fantastic.
- 27:34Well, that's great.
- 27:34And that's great.
- 27:35You still have them around, and I'm sure you can lean on them when you need some advice or something.
- 27:40So that's fantastic.
- 27:41Well, what a great morning.
- 27:43What a great story.
- 27:44This kind of stuff just jazzes me.
- 27:46It excites me because I love to hear about business owners who just have, they sort of grab the bull by the horns and away they go.
- 27:52It's fantastic.
- 27:55We couldn't get better stories than we've had on this podcast.
- 27:58That's right.
- 27:59And I think at our gala, we had some fun with that.
- 28:03We sure did.
- 28:03We talked about all of our guests that we've had, and it's been great, and Darren's another one of those great guests.
- 28:09Did you tell everybody who won our podcast guest of the year?
- 28:12No, I didn't.
- 28:13So at the gala, we did an award for podcast guest of the year.
- 28:16The very first time, yep.
- 28:17Yes.
- 28:17And the podcast guest of the year for 2024 was Felix the Shop Cat from Bushell Transport.
- 28:23If you haven't listened to the Felix podcast, you need to go to the Felix podcast.
- 28:27You know what?
- 28:28I think Felix is the one that took us worldwide.
- 28:31Yeah, I think so.
- 28:32I don't know how, but the cat took us around the world.
- 28:34And so that was pretty amazing.
- 28:36And you know what was really neat about the gala is we had a lot of our guests at the gala on Saturday.
- 28:41Wasn't that fantastic?
- 28:42That was really cool.
- 28:43And we went through the whole thing of teaching everybody how to download podcasts and do all that.
- 28:48We'll see if our numbers spike a little bit or if they stay the same.
- 28:52Maybe they'll drop.
- 28:52I don't know.
- 28:53But anyway, that was kind of fun too.
- 28:55So we had a really great time.
- 28:56So thank you everybody.
- 28:57Thanks for listening.
- 28:59Hey, it's great having you listening to us.
- 29:02We really appreciate it.
- 29:03We're going to tell you in a couple of weeks.
- 29:05I think, Jennifer, I'm stepping out here.
- 29:07You're going to probably tell me.
- 29:09But we've got merch.
- 29:12We do have merch.
- 29:13We got t-shirts.
- 29:14We do.
- 29:14That are beautiful downtown Acheson t-shirts.
- 29:17We launched these at the Gala.
- 29:18That's right.
- 29:19We sold a stack of them.
- 29:20People thought it was a joke.
- 29:21I know.
- 29:21It's no joke.
- 29:22No, no, no joke.
- 29:23We actually have t-shirts.
- 29:24We do.
- 29:25And we've got our Coffee In The Park mugs.
- 29:27We do.
- 29:28So we'll figure out for the next podcast how that maybe if you're interested in a coveted t-shirt and mug.
- 29:34Where you can purchase that t-shirt.
- 29:36Yeah, where you can do that.
- 29:37And we'll even sign it if you want us to.
- 29:40I think they want us to.
- 29:41But anyway, of course they want us to.
- 29:42That's right.
- 29:43Anybody, everybody, thanks again for listening.
- 29:45And tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell your enemies, tell everybody, wherever you get your podcasts.
- 29:51Or if you don't know how to do that, go to www.Achesonbusiness.com and you can find us there.
- 29:56Thanks everybody.
- 29:57Have a great week.
- 29:58We'll see you next time.
- 29:59Thanks everyone.
- 30:00Thank you.