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- 0:00So what was it like growing up with narcissistic personality
- 0:04disorder? Yeah, Yeah.
- 0:07I don't think I understand how often I get this question.
- 0:10If you're new here, I have narcissistic personality
- 0:12disorder. My name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:14I'm going to diagnose self aware narcissist mental illness
- 0:16everywhere, Right. And a lot of people ask me like,
- 0:20what was it like growing up with NPD?
- 0:22How did you get NPD? We're going to cover that in
- 0:26today's video, y'all. So first of all, if you do not
- 0:28know, I AM 40 years old. I know, I know I might not look
- 0:33it now. I was just joking.
- 0:35Now, I just turned 14 July so and I was born and raised in
- 0:39Reidsville, NC. Shout out to Deville, North
- 0:42Carolina. I still live in North Carolina
- 0:43now, but in growing up with MPD was like, I feel like I had a
- 0:48pretty normal childhood. Yeah.
- 0:49I think a lot of people think I was just tortured and put it in
- 0:51a closet and just beaten and starved and stuff like that.
- 0:55It wasn't like that, no, I didn't get NPD from that type of
- 0:59abuse, from that type of trauma. And I'm not trying to downplay a
- 1:02joke on anything anybody else's went through, but I didn't get
- 1:05it that way, right? How I got narcissistic
- 1:09personality disorder was, I think genetics did play, could
- 1:12have played a role in it, right? But I think more along the
- 1:14lines, it was just neglect, right?
- 1:18Not for my mom, but more neglect from on the on the father's
- 1:22side, right? It is not to to bash my dad.
- 1:25It really is just the, the honest to God truth.
- 1:28So when I didn't get the love and appreciation and the and the
- 1:31affection from my father that I was seeking who I look like, I
- 1:34do look like him, right? It just turned me narcissistic.
- 1:39It made me shut down right There was there was an incident when I
- 1:42was little and I got my I got popped.
- 1:46You know what popping is? I got popped when I was little
- 1:48and it just I feel like that may be shut down internally, right?
- 1:52Well, my father hurt me as a child.
- 1:55I feel like he betrayed me and I was just like, OK, I shut my I
- 1:59shut my emotion down in this space right there.
- 2:01And that was one of the big things that ended up happening.
- 2:03But growing up with it, y'all woo?
- 2:06I don't think I said narcissistic personality
- 2:10disorder, like because I have a twin brother that's not a
- 2:13narcissist. I always had somebody to model.
- 2:15I always had a, a person to model and behave like I always
- 2:18had somebody. Oh, my brother acts this way.
- 2:21Let me act the same way so that I don't so I could fit in.
- 2:24So because it growing up as a child and whatnot, they possibly
- 2:28had a personality disorder when I was very young.
- 2:31It's just like I always felt out of place.
- 2:33Like no matter where I was at, no matter what I was doing, no
- 2:36matter the size of the crowd I was in, I always felt like I was
- 2:42out of place. I always felt like an alien in a
- 2:44little boy's body, right? I was just like I was born.
- 2:47I was put in this little boy's body and I felt like an alien.
- 2:50And that was a big piece of my upbringing.
- 2:52That's a big piece of how I was raised and how I grew up is like
- 2:55feeling like a damn alien. And this is like because I had
- 2:58my brother who was not a narcissist, I knew how to act.
- 3:01I knew how to fit in. But that didn't help me
- 3:04internally. Externally, I could fit in.
- 3:06Externally I could be funny and approachable and have friends
- 3:09and things like that. But internally I didn't feel the
- 3:13same way. You know, internally I was a
- 3:16mess. So I'm always thinking of people
- 3:18judging me. I'm always thinking everybody's
- 3:20eyes are on me, always thinking that people are watching me or
- 3:23whatever the case may be, right? So I'm looking around thinking
- 3:26people are judging me. I think so many things or
- 3:27different things are going on and whatnot, so I don't know
- 3:29what the hell is going on. Like my mind, I'm just like, I'm
- 3:32everywhere. So growing up, I just didn't
- 3:34know what the hell was going on. Like seriously, I was just like,
- 3:37this is just how I am. And the the teachers and the TV
- 3:40shows and stuff like that, they always tell you you're everybody
- 3:44is special in their own way. So I'm just thinking I'm
- 3:46special, right? I'm just thinking I'm special.
- 3:49Like, I know I felt different, but maybe this different is just
- 3:52me being special, you know? So that's how I felt.
- 3:55That's how I was when I was growing up.
- 3:56I always felt like I was special.
- 3:58Not because I'm narcissistic. I always thought I was special
- 4:00because that's what society taught you.
- 4:01Society said everybody is special in their own little way.
- 4:04Go back and read those books from the 80s and the 90s, you
- 4:07know? So that's what ended up
- 4:08happening to me. Like I was growing up, like
- 4:10thinking I was special, but I was also just so internally,
- 4:14yeah, internal, my inside, internally, I was a mess.
- 4:17I'm being real with you. Internally, I was a huge mess.
- 4:22Destroyed. I was destroyed inside.
- 4:24Like I, it felt like I couldn't be.
- 4:25It felt like I couldn't be happy inside.
- 4:28Honestly, I was always chasing happiness, even as a youth, even
- 4:32as somebody young. And when I found things that
- 4:34made me happy, it's like almost always something or someone
- 4:37would take those away from me. I still remember the day, like
- 4:41when I was eight or nine years old, right?
- 4:43I was on the the monkey bars. Now it's not in the monkey bars.
- 4:47That was it's like this little Dome of bars, right?
- 4:50They might still have more playgrounds, but y'all know
- 4:52playgrounds back in the day used to be super dangerous.
- 4:54It was this Dome of bars and I was a research recess and I was
- 4:59playing outside. I was, I was hanging up and then
- 5:04Tony Winchester had done something and he like I told him
- 5:08he was hanging upside down. I said bro, don't hang upside
- 5:11down. I didn't say bro.
- 5:11I was like, hey, why are you hanging upside down?
- 5:13Something's going to happen to you.
- 5:15He didn't listen. Literally 2 minutes later he
- 5:17fell off the monkey bars and he hurt like literally I think he
- 5:20broke his wrist. He started screaming.
- 5:22We only had one teacher out there.
- 5:23So I mean, everybody had to go inside because I wanted to be
- 5:26outside. I'm yelling and screaming at
- 5:28Tony. I'm losing my mind on Tony ass.
- 5:33I'm gonna scream it at him and my teacher's like my teacher's
- 5:35like, hey, what's wrong with you?
- 5:37I was like he he wouldn't listen.
- 5:38He got hurt. That's my first instance of
- 5:40having narcissistic rage and a lack of empathy right there,
- 5:43because I did not care that this little boy hurt his wrist.
- 5:46The only thing I cared about was me being able to be be being
- 5:49able to be outside and having fun and him taking it away from
- 5:52it because he didn't listen to me, right.
- 5:55So I'm yelling and screaming. I got, I think I got in trouble
- 5:57that day again, Y'all, this is over 30 years ago.
- 5:59I was like 8 or 9. I'm 40 years old right now, so
- 6:02it's a little foggy, but I definitely remember the
- 6:05incident. That's my first instance with a
- 6:07lack of empathy and the old, like I still was trying my
- 6:10hardest to fit in. Yeah, I wanted to fit in so bad
- 6:13that I started playing sports. I started like doing things like
- 6:16that. So I'm still still was mirroring
- 6:18my brother. So I was playing sports.
- 6:19I was doing things like that in order to just like again, to fit
- 6:24in more so so so I would have more friends, so I would still
- 6:28not feel like this internal outcast.
- 6:30Externally I looked like everybody else, but internally I
- 6:33felt like an outcast. And the older I got, the worst I
- 6:36felt it did I? Sometimes you know, you, you
- 6:39think you can grow all this stuff, you'll grow out of it.
- 6:41No, it just got worse. It's kind of like the voices in
- 6:43my head were getting louder and louder and louder of telling me
- 6:47that I was not enough, telling me that I was not good enough,
- 6:49telling me that I was an alien, telling me that nobody liked me.
- 6:52These voices, these negative voices in my head talking to me
- 6:55every single damn day. Like you didn't get, you don't
- 6:58have peace. I feel like when I was growing
- 6:59up having a personality disorder, but I didn't know it
- 7:02at the time, right? I just felt like I didn't have a
- 7:04peace internally. It was just crazy.
- 7:07It really is your crazy mind. It really is crazy that I can
- 7:10sit, sit up and think about it right now.
- 7:12Being 40 and trying to understand what I was going
- 7:15through and how I was doing, how was what I was going through and
- 7:18whatnot, right? So that type of stuff continues
- 7:21to happen. So I'm trying to grow up.
- 7:22I'm trying to be better. And the older I got, the worse I
- 7:25felt. The more out of place I felt,
- 7:27the more I felt like nobody understood me, the more I felt
- 7:30like the worse I got. Y'all seriously?
- 7:33I remember. And then also growing up, my
- 7:37self esteem used to take blows that I'd never.
- 7:39Yeah, I can remember stuff that happened to me when I was eight
- 7:42or nine years old that I still hurts me today.
- 7:46I remember being in like, I think it was like 3rd or 4th
- 7:50grade. No second or third grade.
- 7:51Supposed to run the same time period.
- 7:53A girl called me ugly. Her name is Michelle.
- 7:57Michelle E She called me ugly because I had messed up teeth
- 8:01and stuff like that. You ugly because your face, your
- 8:02teeth. And it hurt my feelings that I
- 8:04felt so much shame that day. Y'all that I hyper focused on
- 8:07that day about how I looked. I was so I just, I need to look
- 8:12better like nobody else was. Nobody else is going to call me
- 8:14ugly when I grow up. So that's right.
- 8:17The right now a little girl called me ugly in 8th, like
- 8:20second or third grade. And it affects how I feel now.
- 8:22It affects my confidence. Now, that's not as much as you
- 8:26used to because I actually got to see that girl and talk to her
- 8:29again. Again, I was like last year, I
- 8:30got to talk to her last year. Like, hey, crazy, crazy seeing
- 8:33you here, right? I hadn't seen her in 30 years.
- 8:36I actually got a chance to sit there and talk to her and just
- 8:38like, there's a little girl caught me.
- 8:39Ugly little girls don't know nothing, right?
- 8:41I'm just like, yeah, this is the stupid thing to hold on to.
- 8:45So I was hyper focused on my looks and whatnot.
- 8:47So that that was a big piece of it.
- 8:48You see how that little trauma still still messes with me
- 8:52today. That's I'm afraid of rejection
- 8:54today, That's I have so many fears and making I'm always in
- 8:56the mirror to make sure I nobody's going to call me ugly
- 8:59today, right? And they can call me ugly.
- 9:01I know how hard it was for me to cut my hair.
- 9:03My hair was part a big part of my identity, right, But I just
- 9:06feel like the hair don't make the man.
- 9:09So I'm just like, let me slice this stuff out, Let me get a new
- 9:11look and whatnot. Let me get a new look.
- 9:13Let me get a new feel, a new kind of a new lease on life, so
- 9:16to speak. So that's why I cut my hair out
- 9:18because I was so afraid that I cut my hair.
- 9:20People going to reject. I'm going to I'm going to be I'm
- 9:21going to be ugly. I don't have no hair.
- 9:23I'm not going to stand out anymore.
- 9:25You see how that one incident affected me to this day.
- 9:29So I just cut my hair off. What it's been about tomorrow.
- 9:32Well, there's a week. Today is a week.
- 9:36Yeah, today it's a week. So it's crazy.
- 9:38Been a week since the dress is gone. 18 years.
- 9:40No more swing. Y'all can't swing on them, I'll
- 9:42shake them. Dress.
- 9:43No more shaking the dress. So still growing up, y'all.
- 9:46It's just like I never felt. I never felt like I was just
- 9:50normal. Like growing up, I never felt
- 9:52like I was just a full human. I always felt out of place.
- 9:55I always felt like everybody was judging me.
- 9:57Paranoia is a big part of, I think this can be a big part of
- 10:00having this personality disorder, right?
- 10:02I always felt like people were looking at me and judging me.
- 10:03I was always afraid. Yeah.
- 10:05I had super social anxiety as well, right?
- 10:08I'm paranoid that people were judging me or I'm.
- 10:10So I was super afraid of criticism and rejection, which
- 10:12is why when Michelle called me ugly, did it stuck with me for
- 10:15so long. I used to, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm
- 10:18not the smartest person in the world, of course, right?
- 10:20But I'm not, I'm not ignorant. I'm not stupid, right.
- 10:22So I used to know the answers to the question the teacher were
- 10:24asked. And I'd be so deathly afraid of
- 10:26raising my hand and getting it wrong that wouldn't raise my
- 10:29hand. But then somebody else raised
- 10:30their hand, get it right, and they'd be the answer I had.
- 10:33I'd be like, damn it, I'd be. So you see how even that right
- 10:36there brought me shame. I've talked down on myself like
- 10:38I'm smart. I know the answer.
- 10:40I'll be ready to raise my hand like no.
- 10:41But if you get it wrong, if you get it wrong, people going to
- 10:44judge you. You can be stupid.
- 10:45You're not smart enough to get this question right.
- 10:46Then the next person raised their hand and get it right.
- 10:48And I had the right answer in my head.
- 10:49I'm like, now I'm ashamed of raising my hand.
- 10:53See, now my mind is telling me the narcissistic part of me is
- 10:56telling me you're not good enough.
- 10:58You see, you're afraid to get things wrong.
- 10:59You're afraid you're a coward. So my mind is now telling me I'm
- 11:02a coward. My mind talked me out of raising
- 11:05my hand, but then somebody else got it.
- 11:07Now my mind is telling me I'm a coward.
- 11:09You see how to do up the dual mindset?
- 11:11It doesn't serve people. It doesn't.
- 11:13It was not serving me as a child.
- 11:14It held me back from so many things, right?
- 11:16And it's still holding me back from now.
- 11:17That's why I'm still in therapy right now.
- 11:19Y'all if I started therapy at 32 years old and I'm still working
- 11:24through things that happened to me when I was 89101112 years
- 11:27old. So growing up with this person I
- 11:29did is what I felt like it did hold me back from a lot of
- 11:31opportunities and things like that because I was so afraid of
- 11:34criticism of feeling shame of getting rejected again, which is
- 11:37why I feel the same way now. Like that's why I'm, I'm still
- 11:40working through that type of stuff now at 40 that I was going
- 11:44through when I was 30 years old. You know, and that type of stuff
- 11:47right now is what what I'm trying to battle through that
- 11:49I'm still working through and I'm going to keep working
- 11:51through. I'm going to keep battling
- 11:52through it because I'm on a journey.
- 11:54This is a different journey. It's a different space for me to
- 11:56be in and I love this space. You know, I cherish this space.
- 12:00That's why I appreciate y'all so much.
- 12:02Now I'll do a longer video next time on my whole journey to
- 12:06therapy because I can. That would this would be a 40
- 12:08minute video. Y'all know, I'm not trying to
- 12:10put these super long videos on this channel, although I might
- 12:14be putting the podcast on this channel, the podcast.
- 12:16I'm starting interviews this week for my podcast.
- 12:19I'm thinking about putting them on this channel, but a lot of
- 12:22people, the channel, the views are going down.
- 12:24So I'm just like do I need to put the podcast over here or do
- 12:26I need to start a new channel for the podcast?
- 12:29I have a lot of questions I'm things are working through right
- 12:30now. Y'all.
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