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#343: Bradley Moon-Sprint Free Training | Humility, Harmony & Coaching Beyond the Ego · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  So let's get into it. Let's end 2025 with a bang.
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  Guess what? We will be back here in 2026.
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  We've got season 7 upcoming and got some great things in store
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  for you. And I'm excited.
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  And I'm excited about today's guest.
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  Help me welcome from Sprint free training.
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  I got to find out what that means.
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  I don't know what that means. Help me welcome the wise, the
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  wonderful Mr. Bradley Moon Bradley.
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  How are you, Sir? Mike, I'm good, brother.
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  Thank you so much for having me. It's been long overdue, brother.
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  So I'm I'm glad that we're finally getting to connect and
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  do this. So I'm I'm excited to be here
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  and to learn and just to share just a lot of different things.
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  So thank you for having me. Absolutely.
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  I appreciate your patience. You know, people reach out, you
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  know, quote UN quote all the time about being on the show and
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  you know the the, the goal is kind of like Pokémon to catch
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  them all. I want every coach on the show,
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  but I get, I only get this format, the long format, 52 * a
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  year. So there's only 52 of those
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  episodes. But I put everybody, everybody
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  who reaches out, I put on the list.
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  Unfortunately, that list is now 100 plus deep.
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  So if you reached out today, at best it's two years before you
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  get on the show. Now that's a good and bad
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  problem, right? It's it's good.
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  I got guaranteed content. I got I got 2 two more at least
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  two more years guys at least, at least at least The bad part is
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  some some guys get a little like, Hey, I thought you forgot
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  about he's like, Nah, dude, I didn't forget about you, man.
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  Trust me, you're on the list. It's so funny.
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  So like when you reached out to me and I totally forgot that I
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  was like, Oh yeah, you know what?
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  I did reach out to Mike. Like.
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  A while ago. And then I'm like.
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  Sure. Yeah, the time.
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  Is good. I was like I.
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  Totally forgot I was like I'll somehow I'll I'll figure out to
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  get on there but so. I love that you weren't just at
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  home mad at me like that dude still hasn't got back.
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  I appreciate that. It actually was kind of a
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  secondary thought for you after a while.
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  That actually makes me feel feel better because I I don't want to
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  disappoint people. So I really hate that someone is
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  like, you know, sitting at home going when's Mike calling?
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  When's the caller? When's the call?
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  That guy, he, he's not really putting me on the list.
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  And it's like, no, no, I promise you that that's the problem.
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  I put everybody on the list so the list gets along the timing.
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  Is perfect. Now the, the that's a good segue
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  about getting more people in the show.
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  So you know, 52 a year on the long form.
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  Every the past couple years I've done like a special episodes
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  throughout the year to help get more people on.
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  So like 2 years ago went out and and interviewed a high school
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  coach from every state to talk about their outdoor state meets.
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  So there was 50 actually 51 because of Washington, DC.
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  That was 51 extra people to get on the show.
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  That was almost like a, a year's worth, right?
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  And this past year, 2025 S earlier this spring, you know,
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  I, I, I think podcast and media for track and field are
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  important. So I went out and, and reached
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  out to his mini track and field podcast that I could find and
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  all the ones that came back to me, we did a 15 ish minute, you
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  know, about their show, like, what's your show about?
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  Why should people listen to your show?
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  And you know, how did you start your show?
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  Things like that. So there was, you know, probably
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  about 15 to 20 extra people. But what I've started this year
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  to really hopefully help with this is, you know, I believe
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  Bradley, that every coach has something to share, whether it's
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  your very first day of practice ever or you are, you know, close
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  to retirement. I think you have value to bring.
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  Everybody has different kinds of value, right?
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  I'm, I might not listen to career advice from that person
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  whose first day is this year, right?
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  But I think how that person got into coaching or the things that
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  they're excited about, I think that has value.
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  So we started earlier this year the Gill 1918 project.
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  OK, So what that is same podcast.
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  So same channel you're listening to here, not on YouTube and not
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  on Twitch, but on the podcast audio only on Tuesday through
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  Sunday. If we have the content, we
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  publish 10 to 30 minute episodes.
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  So much smaller, a little easier to listen to.
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  This is a hard podcast to listen to, right?
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  You're on the you're 5 minutes into the journey of at least an
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  hour and a half. I get at least an hour and a
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  half. I know my guy and I are going.
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  We're banging this out for an hour and a half.
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  I got a meeting so we can't go past two, but this one I feel
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  like is gonna be a rich and deep 1.
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  And I love that cuz your, your journey deserves that.
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  That's why I don't put a cap on, you know, an hour or something
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  like that. But Gill 1918 project, 10 to 30
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  minute episodes, Bill. And it is like the Ted talks of
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  track and field. So no subject is off off topic
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  is off base. We've had people come on and
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  talk about how to coach high jumpers better, how to organize
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  cross country practices better X's and O's type of things.
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  Super valuable. We've had this is one of my
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  favorite ones. Dave Emiot from Kentonwood up in
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  Michigan came on and talked about how to recruit kids to
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  your team like your high school coach.
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  Like that's a that's AI was just in Tampa MC in a clinic and I
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  was talking to a coach from Ocala.
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  This is amazing. I think he said 5:00-ish years
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  ago, don't quote me all the time, but not long 5:00-ish
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  years ago he started join the Ocala program with they had 15
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  kids today 200. Holy.
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  I believe healthy things grow. That's amazing.
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  Now what's interesting is so like what I challenged him is to
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  create a Gil 1918 project podcast is coming into 15 and
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  having 200 things had to change staffing, how you coach kids,
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  how you staggered practices. That's important for the you are
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  going to go to a tract clinic and hear that you're not you
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  should, but you're not but you're not.
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  This is the place Gil 1918 project to do it.
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  So if you're interested, if you're listening and Bradley,
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  you should be doing this too. If you have something on your
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  mind that you want to share. So maybe you, you, you have a
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  killer tweet, but you know, it's only 180 characters or whatever
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  and you can expound that for 10 to 30 minutes.
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  Please reach out. I'll give the instructions on
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  how to do it. And we publish them all every
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  Tuesday through Sunday. And right now every Tuesday,
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  you know, dietitian culture, bio mechanic, I mean, just amazing
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  content. All right, the commercial's
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  over. Let's get to today's guest,
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  Bradley, my man. OK, so somewhere assuming that
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  you're an athlete and here's what's cool, man, I'm just
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  talking today. Here's what's cool.
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  I just you. Know spotty senses are rolling.
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  Bro, I'm just going. I'm going because I always say
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  it's interesting. I always say, hey, assuming
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  you're an athlete and we know what assuming does because you
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  know this will be episode 340 something today, right?
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  We've certainly learned that plenty of really, really good
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  coaches were not athletes themselves, high school or
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  college. So I don't want there ever to be
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  like the thought of this prereq of like I didn't run track or I
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  did, but I wasn't very good. By the way, that's my story
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  wasn't very good. So I can't coach.
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  I wasn't a great athlete like XY and Z.
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  I was just reminded of this. I was MC in the Tampa Bay from
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  the University of South Florida, and I got to introduce one of my
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  favorite people, Vince Anderson. You know the name Vince
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  Anderson? Yeah.
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  He's not bad, right? You know, he's coached a couple
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  of world champions and. Oh.
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  Yeah, he's got. All the credentials and never
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  did track. In fact, was a architect by
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  education, like went to school to become an architect, was a
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  track fan, but never did track went to schools to be an
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  architect, became an architect. I love his story.
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  Got laid off 3 times, which I'm like, Vince, maybe you weren't a
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  very good architect. I need to tell him that one day.
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  But get laid off 3 times and was like, you know what, I love
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  track. Let me go see what it looks like
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  to coach. And then went to Houston with
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  the great Tom Talez. And you know, Vince's careers is
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  a is a Hall of Fame or career. So I love that.
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  So all that to say, Bradley, where does track and field start
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  for you? So I was not a track and field
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  guy early. I was actually a baseball and
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  football. Guy.
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  Oh, really? And but track and field started
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  for me my senior year in high school, so I was, like I said, a
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  baseball guy and. A football guy.
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  And in my baseball career, we we decided to get a new coach in
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  the year before we went to the Final Four in high school.
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  I went to Salem High School in Conyers, GA and we got a new
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  head coach and they they just wanted me to run bases.
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  I remember they said. Well, we.
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  We. We know you got speed, but we
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  just want to have you run bases. And so my football coach for a
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  long time was like, you should just run track, do track and
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  field. You know, you need to let this
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  baseball go. You want to go to you want to go
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  to college on a football scholarship and track and field
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  will be a great duo. And he had been like just
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  dogging me like every year, 9th, 10th grade, 11th grade year.
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  And then eventually I was like, you know, what, if I'm just
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  going to run bases and, and I'm going to just run and
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  participate in track and field. So my senior year, Mike, I went
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  out and started, had no idea what track and field was, You
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  know, it was just so foreign to me.
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  I just always knew that we ran a lot first day or first day of
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  practice. We did all the drills, the Ace
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  Gibbs, all the warmers that you that people are familiar with.
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  And I realized I've got to do that again on Tuesday,
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  Wednesday, Thursday, Friday in January when it's cold and you
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  know, I'm, I'm coming from a baseball in the spring.
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  So we don't move that much. And.
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  So, so that was a struggle, that was a huge struggle and all the
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  six hundreds that our coach used to make us do.
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  And man, the Lord just showed me success in that and then was did
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  well enough to get a a track and field scholarship.
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  Hold on there, don't go past me there yet 'cause I'm curious.
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  Let's stay in high school for a second.
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  I mean, you know, my obvious question here is right.
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  I mean, so your your, your baseball, your football,
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  baseball guy, your track coach. I'm sorry, your football coach
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  is telling you all from freshman year.
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  Hey, man, maybe maybe you shouldn't play baseball.
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  Maybe you should run track. Now, on the one hand, that means
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  like, oh, he saw that he had that you had speed.
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  But I'm wondering if he also saw because then you go to baseball
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  and they're like, hey man, instead of all that fielding and
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  hitting stuff, why don't you just run bases?
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  Yeah, I'm wondering, Bradley, because, you know, you're you're
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  more of an adult now. It's it's hard as a sixteen 1718
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  year old kid who has a lot of passions wants to be the next
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  Eric. Well, you don't even know.
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  Eric Yeah, yeah. Whatever, Whoever.
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  I don't even know baseball, so whoever's.
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  Good. I don't know much about about
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  the more you want. Yeah, I don't like that stuff.
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  Were you not very good at baseball?
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  That's what I really want to ask.
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  You know what I'm saying? I.
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  Think. I think I was good.
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  I I played a lot. More like my sophomore year
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  because during the Final Four, I, I played a lot more and then
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  somehow the, I guess the coach didn't necessarily think I was
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  the best, you know, you got. A new coach too, right?
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  Right. Yeah, a new coach, but I like to
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  think that, you know, I guess I wasn't the best on the field.
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  And so he said, well, this this gentleman has speed.
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  Well, we'll just let him run bases.
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  And so to answer your question, I probably wasn't as good as I.
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  Thought yeah, but but you but you brought up a good point.
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  You know, football, almost all of other sports are I always get
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  subjective and objective, but I don't really understand.
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  But it's more like it's more varied.
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  Like I can look at a guy and be like, oh, that's a really good
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  baseball player and someone else goes, that guy's trash.
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  What are you talking about? Right.
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  In track, it's like, oh, he ran 1020 versus 1220.
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  He's good. He's not good.
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  You know it's. There's less interpretation
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  track and field where in baseball, I mean, obviously you
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  were, you were playing 9/10/11. So it's not like, you know, it's
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  like, man, really, I hope you like the bench because that's
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  really obviously we're good. You know, in that sense that new
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  guy comes in and says, yeah, you know, I got plans for Joey over
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  there to be where you're supposed to be.
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  But hey, there's a spot for you, you know, you can run bases or
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  whatnot. So but yeah, just to kind of as
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  when you're telling the baseball story.
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  Then you said the football coach was like, man, he was dogged me
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  to run track. I was like, man, was the
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  football coach telling you, look, man, this baseball thing.
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  All right, so you said you didn't even know much about
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  track when you went over there. So you didn't like no, no
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  friends run the track team. And you talk and be like, man,
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  you guys do a lot of not. Not much though, huh?
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  No, like when you asked me the question, I was thinking about
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  the very first moment I was out there and I didn't know, you
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  know much about how practice is structured.
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  You, you know, just kind of going with open hands of like,
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  OK, I guess we're going to do some drills.
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  I guess we'll do some running. But I didn't know it was like
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  that. Like we.
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  How did you know, especially as a senior, like how did they know
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  where to put you? And you know, like I, I remember
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  when I first came out for football and I wasn't very big
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  and they didn't even like tell me where to go, like go the
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  running backs, go the receivers, etcetera.
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  I went to the running backs because that's where my math
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  teacher, coach Payne was. And so that's who I knew.
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  And so I just went there. I did.
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  I did not end up in the running backs.
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  I quickly moved elsewhere. But I just like, I don't know.
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  So I know this guy, I'll go there with track.
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  And so it's different if you'd start as a freshman because it's
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  like, Oh, I can make mistakes or you know, he's he's just air
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  quotes a freshman. Let him go do long jump, see
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  what happens, whatever, blah, blah.
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  But senior year I got one shot. I don't know much about him.
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  Maybe I know as a track coach like, oh, I've seen him play
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  ball or football, like he's fast.
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  But I still got to know. Do I put you in the short
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  sprints, the longer sprints? I mean, fast.
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  You could still be an 800 meter guy for for all I know.
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  We'll find out. But hurdles, I mean, there's a
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  lot of options here for you. How did they know like where to
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  focus you on in such a short amount of time?
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  So it was at the football, I was the rent, I was running back in
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  in football. And so at that time, one of my
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  senior year, I was a bigger guy. I was.
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  Probably like a a buck. 90 and they said well you've got speed
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  so you can be a sprinter do the the 1 to 200 and interesting
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  enough they needed a triple. Jumper.
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  And they wanted me to do. Triple jump.
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  See, now that that that OK, I think this happens more than we
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  care to, to actually talk about out loud because I was like,
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  well, how do they identify you? They identify going, oh, we
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  don't have any triple jumpers. This guy's athletic.
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  Let's see what he does. That's exactly how it.
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  Happened an 8 foot high jumper and we don't know because we
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  don't have a really good system to figure out where people
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  actually should go. It was, hey, we don't have any
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  triple jumpers. Make the new guy.
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  We only got one year. We can't break them, throw them
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  over the triple jump. How'd you like that?
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  That's a fun event. You know it it was it was
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  different when you don't know like you're just open and you're
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  like, sure, I'll try this and I. Enjoyed it a lot, yeah.
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  That's a good point. You know, if I take the average
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  person off the street and I say, hey, what's 100 meter dash?
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  You know, 95 plus percent are going to know at least like, oh,
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  it's the football field. Like I run straight, right.
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  If I get 100 people, random people off the street and I say
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  the long jump because it's in the name long, they may think
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  it's like the broad, like, oh, you stand on the pit and you
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  jump like no, you actually run or whatever, but you know,
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  they're going to. I would venture to say if I
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  asked 100 random people with a triple jump is 50% are going to
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  get it wrong. Did you any clue what the triple
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  jump was like when he said hey Bradley let's go try the triple
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  jump what did you think? Like I.
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  Was like, OK, so he takes me on the runway and you know, he's
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  showing me all the different things, your steps.
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  And, you know, Coach Jacobs is who I had.
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  He's still at Salem High School now and he's a phenomenal coach.
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  And he just worked on my my approach.
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  I think we did more approach work then a lot of the jump
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  because you say if you can get your approach.
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  As. Strong as you are, you can get
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  in the pit and all these different things.
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  What? What did you think when they
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  told you? Because if 50% would have said
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  they have no clue what the trouble jump is out of that 50%
• 17:36
  as we started talking about it, 50% would have said, oh, you
• 17:39
  jump off of one leg, land on the other and the in reality, you
• 17:43
  know, you land on the same. What did you think when they
• 17:44
  Yeah, right. I mean, what did you think the
• 17:46
  first time there was like, Oh, yeah, no, no, rarely.
• 17:48
  You took off your right. I want you to land on your right
• 17:51
  again because that's an awkward. Yeah, that was awkward.
• 17:54
  It was an adjustment. I'm like.
• 17:56
  So I got to do what? What a crazy event, yeah.
• 18:03
  And so it, it was, it was a lot of fun and I had a good
• 18:07
  experience. Try and triple jump.
• 18:10
  It's not where I stay when I moved off to to college when
• 18:13
  we'll get there, but it was really fun.
• 18:16
  But since we're talking about that, it made me think about the
• 18:19
  very first track and field meet that I participated in.
• 18:23
  And we were at the Parkview Invitational and it was a relay
• 18:27
  event. And I remember going on the bus
• 18:30
  and we're going all day because everyone knows track and field
• 18:34
  events or days are all day long. And so we go when I was a part
• 18:39
  of the relays and did triple jump and I remember like if you
• 18:44
  got first or second you, they would give you like batons as
• 18:48
  like instead of instead of metals, they'd give out batons.
• 18:51
  Yeah. And so I.
• 18:53
  Really like custom batons. Custom batons with Parkview
• 18:56
  Invitational on it and I still have them at my my parents
• 18:59
  house. Like real colorful or like
• 19:01
  etched in? No, no, they're real colorful.
• 19:03
  They were like. Blue.
• 19:04
  All like the Parkview colors, like the blue, the orange.
• 19:07
  I I bet you that's my guy Joseph White.
• 19:10
  Really. You know Joseph White.
• 19:11
  I don't he's. He's in Georgia, I can't
• 19:13
  remember what part, runs a company called Sports Vans and
• 19:17
  does custom batons and really like amazing custom batons.
• 19:23
  And he's right there in Georgia. I get what?
• 19:24
  What year was this roughly? It's had to be 22,000 and. 10 I
• 19:31
  want to say I. Wonder if he was doing back?
• 19:33
  Then 2010, yeah. Like he he he does the Penn
• 19:35
  Relays batons now he did this is kind of the the weird part of
• 19:40
  podcasting. So we're recording this in
• 19:41
  November, but you're listening to this probably in December or
• 19:43
  maybe even January. In early December, we'll do A at
• 19:48
  the USTFCCCA convention. We'll do a a fun little event
• 19:51
  with my friend Chad Gunnelson, Coach Gunny and we'll do a hot
• 19:56
  wings kind of challenge, but also podcast.
• 19:59
  So I'm going to ask you questions while you're eating
• 20:01
  these hot wings. And the winner is getting a
• 20:03
  custom baton from my guy Joseph White.
• 20:06
  That's amazing. Like it's so cool.
• 20:09
  It wings on its sauce and it's so fun.
• 20:13
  And so we'll do that in December, but I I'll have to
• 20:16
  check in with him and say, when did you actually start doing
• 20:18
  this? Because it's a full-fledged
• 20:19
  business now. He's doing an amazing job.
• 20:21
  So anyway, shout out to Joseph White sports vains.
• 20:24
  Check them out. They do an amazing job.
• 20:26
  That's cool. So you got an, we got an award.
• 20:28
  Yeah, we got all that. And then it was crazy.
• 20:30
  So all the relays and the jumping happened when in the
• 20:33
  first couple of hours of the track and field event.
• 20:36
  Now remember Mike, I don't know much about track and field.
• 20:40
  This is my first event and I don't I didn't know.
• 20:42
  That we're I'm going to be there all day.
• 20:44
  So, so listen, Mike. The greatest trick?
• 20:47
  The greatest trick. All right, so I get done and I
• 20:52
  go over to Coach Jacobs and Coach Davis.
• 20:54
  He was also one of our coaches and I said, all right, coach,
• 20:58
  you know. The. 4 by.
• 21:00
  One is done, triple jump is done.
• 21:03
  I'm ready to go. It's it's time to go.
• 21:06
  And he's like, what are you talking?
• 21:07
  About we still got. The. 100. 1. 10100 hurdles the
• 21:13
  all the other. 4 by 4. I mean, the entire entire meat
• 21:17
  has not finished and I'm standing there and I'm like.
• 21:21
  Oh, I've got to be here all day. I didn't bring, I didn't bring
• 21:26
  no snacks. I didn't bring.
• 21:27
  You know, it was, I learned the hard way, Mike.
• 21:32
  And I was like, oh this is what track and field is.
• 21:34
  That's a good point. You know, we, I think about
• 21:38
  these clinics and things like this and it's like, you know, we
• 21:42
  talk about this, the top 5% of a workout or an athlete, man, the
• 21:47
  base, the, the, the basics are so important here is, you know,
• 21:53
  most of our kids are new, whether you're a senior or a
• 21:55
  freshman, they don't know, They think they know and you think
• 21:58
  maybe they know as a coach, but in reality, it's like they have
• 22:01
  no clue. Like I need to spell this out
• 22:04
  for them. Hey, we're going to leave at
• 22:05
  8:00. We're going to get there at
• 22:06
  9:00. It's not going to end till 6.
• 22:09
  Like, so you need to make sure you're bringing X&Y&Z and hey,
• 22:12
  it's going to be 90. So make sure you bring you know
• 22:15
  a shade and Y you know like things that you would if you air
• 22:20
  quotes should take for granted. You cannot.
• 22:23
  You. Cannot.
• 22:24
  You thought it was over? That's hilarious.
• 22:28
  Yeah. It is and so.
• 22:31
  But you came back though. I came back, it was.
• 22:33
  Something, and I think track and field does that to an athlete or
• 22:38
  a coach where. You you get.
• 22:41
  This, it's like addicting, like when you do, when you perform
• 22:46
  and you're around all the other athletes and coaches and
• 22:49
  everyone's running and jumping and growing and you're like,
• 22:52
  man. This is This is fun.
• 22:55
  And obviously when you when you win, that's fun and all that
• 22:57
  stuff. And I think that was part of it
• 23:00
  as well. Like if anyone, but I enjoyed
• 23:04
  the group of guys that I was with.
• 23:05
  We ran and did well, and I just started and started
• 23:11
  understanding tracking the field and I was like, man, you know,
• 23:14
  I'm actually running pretty well.
• 23:16
  You know, maybe I could. And so I was already on that
• 23:20
  track to go to college for football.
• 23:23
  And then the coach saw. That Hey, have you?
• 23:26
  You just started running your senior year and I'm like, yes,
• 23:30
  Sir. And he said, man, like we want
• 23:33
  to do, we want you to come up for track and field as well.
• 23:36
  So, and that's how I landed, you know, in college and we'll get
• 23:41
  to there in a minute. So first of all, you brought up
• 23:43
  a great point about kind of the addiction of track and field.
• 23:45
  There must be something to it cuz you know, we have a lot of
• 23:48
  minuses on our sport. And, and one of the, the ones
• 23:50
  that you know, grinds my gears the most is this, you know, 9:00
• 23:53
  in the morning till 6:00 PM. Kind of thinking because I'm
• 23:56
  always trying to, you know, how do we bring more people into
• 23:58
  the, to the fold? And who, you know, if you told
• 24:01
  me I'm a big college football fan, If you told me a college
• 24:04
  football game was 12 hours, I don't know that I'd be a college
• 24:08
  football fan. Honestly, I've got a 12 hour.
• 24:10
  I got other things. Can I get four games in that
• 24:12
  time period? But that's only one game.
• 24:13
  That's crazy, right? But it continues to be the most
• 24:17
  highly participated sport on the high school level when you
• 24:19
  combine boys and girls together on the college level when you
• 24:22
  had minimum together. So, so there is something,
• 24:24
  something to it. Now, before we get to college, I
• 24:27
  want to try to start figuring out your mindset as a 1718 year
• 24:30
  old kid where you and maybe even your other sports, you can
• 24:34
  answer this. Like when you talk about
• 24:35
  football and baseball coaches, looking back, were you asking
• 24:41
  like knowing now that you know, you become a track coach, were
• 24:43
  you asking questions, you know, curiosity questions of like,
• 24:47
  like, why did we do that? Not not, not not questioning
• 24:51
  like, hey, coach, why are you doing this?
• 24:52
  But like, hey, I wonder why did we do that workout today?
• 24:55
  But then we did this kind of radically different workout the
• 24:57
  next day or even on the football side.
• 24:59
  Hey coach, on 3rd and three, I see you called the trap.
• 25:04
  But then on 4th in in inches, why did you decide to punt this
• 25:08
  time versus, you know, Smash Mouth on it?
• 25:11
  You know what I'm saying? Like questions that would make
• 25:13
  someone go, oh, this guy's going to be a coach one day.
• 25:14
  Were you asking those type of questions?
• 25:16
  By the way, you're 1718 year olds.
• 25:17
  You got all the grace in the world that you were just like,
• 25:19
  you know, run ball, C ball, run ball.
• 25:21
  Yeah, I. At that time, I wasn't asking
• 25:24
  those questions. I was.
• 25:26
  How I? I was geared at 1718 years old
• 25:30
  was like I, if my coach is required me to do this, then I'm
• 25:33
  going to do my best in that. I'm not going to ask questions
• 25:36
  because at in that point, he is the coach.
• 25:39
  I, he or she is the coach, I'm the athlete.
• 25:42
  And if he wants, he or she wants me to run through that brick
• 25:45
  wall and get that whatever, I'm going to do that.
• 25:48
  And that's how I was as I approached football and track
• 25:52
  and field and in my career. Yeah, that that's like I said,
• 25:56
  all grace. You know, it's always
• 25:58
  interesting because, you know, the spoiler alert is everybody
• 26:00
  on the podcast becomes a track coach.
• 26:01
  I'm always like as a 17 and some 17 year olds.
• 26:05
  And I think it's not necessarily personality, but how we're
• 26:08
  wired. Some even as 17 year olds are
• 26:10
  like, man, I was fascinated with why we did, you know, block
• 26:12
  starts on Monday, but then, you know, core work on Tuesdays and
• 26:16
  then came back with Max speed on what, Like why?
• 26:18
  Why didn't we just do acceleration every day or what?
• 26:21
  You know, like. You're not.
• 26:22
  Questioning, they're like, I'm just trying to why?
• 26:24
  Like it's working, so I want to know why.
• 26:26
  And lo and behold, they become track coaches.
• 26:28
  But again, there's many, many ways there.
• 26:30
  So OK, so you're not necessarily asking questions of like
• 26:34
  curiosity at this point, correct?
• 26:37
  So what are you thinking as you start looking at college?
• 26:39
  What are you thinking? Where'd you look at?
• 26:42
  Where'd you go? And what were you thinking of
• 26:44
  becoming a scientist, a business owner?
• 26:47
  You know what, Whatever we think is 18 year olds.
• 26:50
  I think for me, so I want to be clear as I was AI would consider
• 26:56
  myself a football guy when I was 1718 and track and field was
• 27:00
  just something that at that time like, OK, baseball's not
• 27:04
  working. This is something that I'm just
• 27:05
  going to do because it will benefit me for football, because
• 27:08
  my whole thought process at that time was like I'm going to
• 27:11
  college to play football and so. Now, did you crazily think
• 27:16
  you're going to play in the NFL? There was later in in my
• 27:20
  college. I do think there was a moment
• 27:22
  there was some week we'll get there.
• 27:24
  Yeah, that's. Interesting.
• 27:25
  OK. And so, but no, I just wanted I
• 27:27
  wanted to get a scholarship. I wanted to do football.
• 27:29
  I wanted to, you know, help my parents out because they gave me
• 27:33
  so much all that. And so so when the track and
• 27:37
  field coach caught from college, called and said, hey, like, I
• 27:43
  know you're signing with us for football, but what you've done
• 27:47
  your senior years, it's quite impressive.
• 27:49
  This be someone who's never done this before.
• 27:52
  And we would like to participate in a scholarship with you for
• 27:55
  track and field. And I went to Shorter University
• 27:59
  in Yeah. Did you really I?
• 28:01
  Did. I did.
• 28:02
  And so so I was just in my mind like, OK, that's cool.
• 28:05
  That's scholarship football. Scholarship for track and field.
• 28:08
  That sounds great, but I wasn't thinking about track and field
• 28:11
  like I do now. Small.
• 28:13
  Football in the forefront of mine.
• 28:15
  Track and. Field, it's just, it's just
• 28:17
  something. Fun.
• 28:18
  It's going to pay some of the bills.
• 28:19
  So correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:21
  Yeah. And so that was my process going
• 28:23
  into college. Did you look elsewhere as well
• 28:26
  or was it shorter from the jump? So I'm glad you.
• 28:30
  So originally when I was getting recruited, guarding the web was
• 28:34
  one on my was on the list and I remember getting the call.
• 28:39
  I think at the time, I think his name was Coach Foster.
• 28:42
  I think he was the DB coach at the time and I remember him
• 28:46
  calling me and he says, hey, look, we've got your highlight
• 28:49
  film. You know, there wasn't a big
• 28:51
  huddle thing. You all right now you know, you
• 28:54
  have to make the tapes and send them all and and that nature.
• 28:57
  So he said, I got your film. He said you've done some really
• 29:00
  good stuff and we want to bring you on a visit, but there is a
• 29:04
  running back that we want to bring up before.
• 29:07
  It's like there's there's three of you guys.
• 29:10
  We've already one said no, the second one will bring it up, and
• 29:13
  you're going to be the third one that we want to bring up.
• 29:17
  And so I was really excited about, OK, you know, Gardner,
• 29:21
  well, you know, you know, all these different things.
• 29:23
  And so I remember him calling me and he said, hey, Bradley, you
• 29:27
  know, just bad news. That gentleman, you know, took
• 29:31
  this, you know, we're going to bring him up.
• 29:32
  He's accepted. So we don't have a spot.
• 29:35
  For you but I. Do know, and this is what he
• 29:38
  said, he said. I do know Phil Jones at Shorter
• 29:40
  University that is looking for Someone Like You and I would
• 29:46
  love to tell him that he should have you and and all.
• 29:48
  That that's how it worked. Dude, that's a great story.
• 29:53
  Because, you know, we're hearing all these bad things about
• 29:58
  college coaches right now. They're just, you know, they're
• 30:00
  not attentive, they're not really helpful.
• 30:02
  They're only out for themselves. In fact, just the last night we
• 30:06
  got into a debate or I like to stir debates.
• 30:09
  I like to create communication about college coaches,
• 30:13
  specifically track and field, not returning emails of, of
• 30:16
  athletes. And and again, I have, you know,
• 30:18
  I see both sides. I talked to high school coaches
• 30:20
  all day and I talked to college coaches all day.
• 30:22
  I was just at a, a different clinic up in Kankakee where a
• 30:25
  college coach said he gets 300 emails a day.
• 30:28
  Now, even if he's exaggerating because that's that's a lot,
• 30:31
  that's a lot, that's a lot. But even if he's exaggerating by
• 30:34
  double and he's only getting 150, that's still a lot.
• 30:39
  Still a lot, right? And so when we talk about our
• 30:42
  college coaches not returning emails, I still don't like, I
• 30:46
  think I have judgement on it because I can't stand that like
• 30:48
  meaning, meaning when someone emails me, it, it, it, it grates
• 30:52
  at me until I can get a response, even if it's a
• 30:54
  response, you know, sometimes the response is no, hey, I can't
• 30:56
  do that, whatever. But I, if it's sitting in my
• 30:58
  inbox, it hurts me not to get a response.
• 31:01
  It really don't give a response. So I have a little bit of
• 31:04
  judgement of our coaches who don't respond.
• 31:07
  And then there were a lot of college coaches that came in and
• 31:09
  was like, hey, man, you know what, it works both ways.
• 31:11
  I've emailed high school coaches and they don't respond.
• 31:13
  And it's like, OK, that's not good either guys.
• 31:15
  But so I you hear the story of a college coach, a football coach
• 31:18
  here in this example, who you know, and it must be tough for
• 31:23
  football, right? Like you can only have so many
• 31:25
  running backs, you can only have so many options in lineman,
• 31:27
  etcetera. And you got to make sure you
• 31:29
  have your third, fourth, fifth choice on the line because you
• 31:32
  don't always get first and second choice, right.
• 31:35
  But for him to first of all, to communicate back with you and
• 31:37
  say, hey, Bradley, I'm sorry, I got bad news.
• 31:39
  Like he could have just goes to Judd and correct you saying I'm
• 31:42
  busy, whatever and he is busy. So.
• 31:45
  He's busy. Yeah.
• 31:46
  But for him to a communicate with you love that.
• 31:48
  And then to me, this is like the extra step, like, oh, you're not
• 31:53
  just a good guy. You care.
• 31:56
  I know this coach. I trust him.
• 31:59
  You would do well with him. Let me call him or, you know,
• 32:02
  call him and let him know that I said, you know, that's that's an
• 32:05
  extra step. And I wish more of us could take
• 32:07
  those extra. It is.
• 32:08
  And you know, I've never had. That was the last conversation
• 32:11
  that I ever had with Coach Foster you.
• 32:12
  Know. Is that right?
• 32:13
  Yeah. And so you know that.
• 32:16
  Wait, do you know where he is today?
• 32:17
  I have no idea where he. Is.
• 32:18
  Bro, I'm going to challenge you. Find him.
• 32:21
  Well, if he, if he's still coaching, it's super easy.
• 32:24
  Yeah, if he's still coaching. But even in today's world with
• 32:26
  Facebook and etcetera, find him and just shoot him a message and
• 32:31
  be like, hey, you probably don't even Remember Me, but here's
• 32:34
  what you did for me. And by the way, that led to X&Y,
• 32:37
  it like like I owe a little bit of my career, my life.
• 32:41
  You taking that because you could have, you could have just
• 32:43
  said, Hey, sorry, not sorry and moved on.
• 32:46
  Thank you. You know, it's easy for us to do
• 32:48
  the negatives in life, right, to leave a bad review and stuff
• 32:51
  like this. It's a little bit harder to take
• 32:52
  that the extra step, just like he took for you that extra step
• 32:55
  and just be like, hey, man, just thanks.
• 32:57
  Just want to say thank you. That will make that dude's day.
• 33:00
  For real and you guys? I haven't thought about it.
• 33:03
  Since we're going down this path of my journey and I mean that
• 33:08
  that was such a blessing from the Lord because that has has
• 33:11
  been a huge piece on where I'm at today and and all the
• 33:15
  different, all the different things that we'll have to.
• 33:17
  Discuss. So you go to very cool
• 33:19
  university, Shorter university. Was it Scott Bird back then?
• 33:23
  It sure. Was.
• 33:24
  Scott. Bird and Scott Bird and coach
• 33:26
  Black, Rochelle Black. Was.
• 33:28
  Oh, Rochelle was there. I didn't know Rochelle.
• 33:30
  Yeah. Rochelle was there.
• 33:31
  We're. Still we.
• 33:32
  Still talk. Like.
• 33:33
  Often I love Rochelle. He's a good dude.
• 33:35
  I love him. It was because I believe that's
• 33:38
  where Nigel Talton went to school.
• 33:40
  Was he before you? No, he came in, so I was there
• 33:45
  one year before he transferred in and he was.
• 33:47
  From a. Four by one team he won
• 33:49
  nationals with. You know, he's been on the
• 33:51
  podcast. I did not know Nigel had been on
• 33:54
  the podcast. Bro, he's Mr. Freeze.
• 33:56
  I know, I know. When it was early in the
• 33:58
  podcast, you know, I didn't have a list 100 long.
• 34:02
  Trust me, no one knew what the heck I was doing.
• 34:04
  And I don't even know how. I must have just, you know, he
• 34:07
  had that viral clip and I think I must have heard somewhere that
• 34:10
  he was a track dude. And I was like, well, that'd be
• 34:11
  a cool dude to have on there. And yeah, I had Nigel or Mr.
• 34:14
  Freeze from the Braves on the on the podcast.
• 34:16
  Nigel. Is we, we do, you know, fantasy
• 34:19
  football every year. So he's part of the, the, the 12
• 34:23
  guys that we get together. So, you know, there's a lot of
• 34:25
  talk talking. Sure, I can see that so.
• 34:27
  Yeah. So Nigel, yeah, I know we spend
• 34:30
  a lot of time with him and as I mentioned, he was part of our
• 34:33
  four by one team, the Nationals years ago and he.
• 34:37
  Was all right so you go to shorter.
• 34:39
  What do you start majoring in what's what at first?
• 34:41
  As a freshman, what are you thinking about becoming?
• 34:43
  It was simple sports management, you know, business, things of
• 34:46
  that nature. I thought I wanted to be a
• 34:48
  sports agent at one time and I was like.
• 34:51
  You got to be a. You know, you got to be a
• 34:53
  lawyer. You got to read a lot at that
• 34:54
  time. I don't want to read that much,
• 34:58
  but it started there and then it I thought I wanted to be an
• 35:02
  athletic. Director at some.
• 35:05
  Point And then I landed on, you know, business and working with
• 35:09
  startups and I'm sure we'll get there when I graduated.
• 35:12
  And, and, but, but no, I'm not hearing coaching necessarily
• 35:16
  like I hear administration, which I love sports agent, which
• 35:20
  is very, I don't say very common, but not uncommon.
• 35:23
  At that clinic I was at in Tampa, I met one of the South
• 35:26
  Florida athletes, and he had just graduated.
• 35:28
  And I was like, oh, what do you want to like?
• 35:29
  What are you trying to do? And he's like, yeah, I want to
• 35:31
  become a sports agent. And I was like, cool.
• 35:33
  I was like, have you interned? Like, have you called it a
• 35:35
  sport? He's like, no, I haven't gotten
• 35:36
  that far. And I was like, you're probably
• 35:38
  not going to become a sports agent.
• 35:40
  No, no, but no. But no coaching like.
• 35:43
  Coaching. Was not.
• 35:44
  On the radar at all, M0. You know it was, you know I'm
• 35:50
  playing football, I'm running track and you.
• 35:52
  Know all four years you do both. I did both.
• 35:54
  All four years, Yeah. And coaching was nowhere to be
• 35:59
  found. Really.
• 36:00
  And you had, you know, I know Scott well and Coach Blackwell.
• 36:04
  So you had like, you know, career coaches, people who love
• 36:08
  coaching right in front of you. And you know, I'm sure your
• 36:11
  football coaches were real good as well.
• 36:12
  And never you never looked at one of those guys and be like, I
• 36:17
  want to do like that guy looks like he's having fun, like I
• 36:19
  want to do that. No, no, I, I.
• 36:23
  I, I didn't, I think I was always been on the journey of
• 36:26
  like, OK, this is the season that I'm in and I want to enjoy
• 36:30
  it, but also like, OK, I was thinking more of like, what's my
• 36:33
  career like? Like I was sharing with athletic
• 36:35
  director of sports administration business.
• 36:38
  My mind has always been turning for that and and sports in
• 36:42
  college where me was just an Ave. for me to to to get there.
• 36:46
  If you will. Yeah, you you say that, but you
• 36:48
  also kind of hinted earlier that for some part you thought maybe
• 36:52
  the NFL was going to be the calling.
• 36:53
  I did. There was one year, my junior
• 36:57
  year in college, where I thought that there might be a chance
• 37:02
  because I did those little, little regional combines and
• 37:06
  then there was a couple looks going on and I had a pretty good
• 37:09
  year as a running back at Shorter.
• 37:13
  And then I thought, well, OK, well.
• 37:15
  Maybe it, you know, it wasn't something a dream of mine.
• 37:18
  That's like, OK, I'm getting some attention.
• 37:20
  That could be something I don't. And then and that was my junior
• 37:25
  year in college. But then my senior year, I
• 37:29
  didn't love football like I loved it anymore.
• 37:32
  And I remember it was homecoming game and me and my mother were
• 37:36
  standing there for homecoming and we were hugging.
• 37:41
  And I told her I said I don't. I don't.
• 37:43
  Love it like. That no more.
• 37:44
  Wow. I don't love it.
• 37:47
  And so, you know, I told her that, you know, even if I wanted
• 37:52
  to try to pursue and, you know, I mean, those regional combines
• 37:55
  are cool for a lot of you know, but you know, the thought or
• 37:58
  idea of it maybe. But then I realized I didn't
• 38:02
  love it anymore. And so I was.
• 38:04
  I was shutting that door. Why?
• 38:07
  And what I mean by is I'm not hearing like a lot of times I'll
• 38:10
  hear when someone falls out of love of, of a sport, they're
• 38:14
  frustrated because they have a lot of injuries.
• 38:16
  Or maybe I, I joined this running back for this team and
• 38:20
  we were O and 10. And it just frustrated me that,
• 38:23
  you know, I needed all 11 offensive line offensive people,
• 38:26
  not just me. I'm not hearing that
• 38:28
  necessarily. I mean, you had a pretty good
• 38:29
  career and I'm not hearing injuries.
• 38:31
  No, I didn't really have a thank the Lord I didn't have major
• 38:35
  injuries. I always wrote my ankles for a
• 38:37
  time or two. So I really have bad ankles but.
• 38:41
  No, I just. You know, I think.
• 38:42
  The you didn't have bad coaching experience, guys that were just
• 38:45
  dogging you no matter what and you're not having academic
• 38:48
  issues. This just kind of a, you know,
• 38:51
  things have a time frame. So it just got to a point where
• 38:54
  it's like, you know, this might be it for football.
• 38:55
  This might be it. And I think I, I think it was, I
• 38:59
  think is a little bit of different things, like, OK,
• 39:02
  well, I, my journey is coming to, I'm just always thinking
• 39:06
  about the future. I think that's like, what's
• 39:08
  next? And I like this could be it.
• 39:10
  But no, no major injuries, no academics.
• 39:14
  And when I'm playing, I'm like, you know what?
• 39:17
  You know, this, this, this ship has run its course.
• 39:22
  This is fascinating to me because especially for young
• 39:25
  people, you know, as you get to your senior year, you're 2122
• 39:28
  ish year years old, maybe 23. It's easy.
• 39:32
  Even as adults, by the way, I'm putting this on young people,
• 39:35
  but even as adults, we get caught up in in what our
• 39:37
  identity is. And so, you know, you mentioned
• 39:40
  you answered a question that I ask a lot of times of football
• 39:43
  slash track people. Are you a football player who
• 39:45
  runs track or a track person who runs football?
• 39:47
  You were definitely a football player who ran track, but that
• 39:50
  became that was your identity. Like when people looked at
• 39:52
  Bradley Moon, it was like, oh, he's a football player.
• 39:54
  Yeah. Oh, like I'm sure your senior
• 39:56
  year of high school. How many times?
• 39:59
  Hey, where are you going to go play ball That I just watched
• 40:01
  the Florida State game. I think you could play Florida
• 40:03
  State. Why did you go and visit there?
• 40:04
  All this kind of stuff, right. I mean, like every day.
• 40:06
  I remember in high school they didn't ask me.
• 40:09
  But you know, I had a good friend who was really good.
• 40:11
  They asked him every day, what are you?
• 40:13
  Where are you going to play ball?
• 40:14
  Not even where you going to school?
• 40:15
  Where are you going to play ball?
• 40:16
  It becomes your identity. How did you you made seemingly a
• 40:21
  very mature. Even before it was over, during
• 40:25
  senior year decision of like, I'm not sure I love this
• 40:28
  anymore. Kind of meaning like this really
• 40:30
  isn't my identity. Yeah.
• 40:32
  Maybe you didn't know what your identity really was, Correct.
• 40:34
  You seem to be so far, just listening to some language, A
• 40:38
  man of faith. That's who our identity should
• 40:40
  be in. Absolutely.
• 40:41
  Maybe whether there was a turning point there has it
• 40:43
  always been in there? I mean this is a pretty mature
• 40:46
  thing for a 21 ish 2 year old kid.
• 40:50
  I think a big part of it is, is my faith, but I, I.
• 40:55
  Didn't want. Athletics just to be who I who I
• 40:58
  was or who I. AM.
• 41:00
  You know my my parents, they, you have to be bigger than you
• 41:04
  know this sport, you know your. Character.
• 41:06
  Is all that matters. I don't care how many touchdowns
• 41:09
  you score, how many you know, how fast you run it, you know in
• 41:13
  100 or 200 meter dash, you know that cannot be your identity.
• 41:17
  You know what is your character when someone's not around?
• 41:21
  You know what are they saying about you behind closed doors
• 41:24
  and so. What's what's mom and dad do?
• 41:27
  Or or during this time frame what they do for a living?
• 41:29
  So my dad was a he was a retired state trooper for Georgia.
• 41:34
  So he did that for 33 years. That's a tough dude, man.
• 41:38
  Come on. OK.
• 41:39
  He was tough, he was tough as nails and me and my brother, we.
• 41:43
  You guys weigh nothing. We, I'm telling you, we ain't
• 41:46
  got away with anything, Mike. So he did that for 33 years, and
• 41:50
  then he retired and then he went to culinary school.
• 41:55
  Shut up, that's so cool. He went to culinary school and
• 41:58
  he graduated. He's a chef and he doesn't he,
• 42:02
  he says I'm a chef in my own home.
• 42:03
  So he he cooks all the stuff at home and gadgets.
• 42:06
  Did he go to like Johnson and Wales or something or?
• 42:08
  He went to the One is a Culinary school of arts here in Atlanta.
• 42:12
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
• 42:13
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:14
  And so he did that. And so he he did that years ago.
• 42:19
  And then my mom, she is an accountant.
• 42:22
  She's been in an accounting where ACPA for as long as I've
• 42:25
  been living and she's Southern Company now and she's got about.
• 42:29
  Maybe 3:00 to. Five years left before she
• 42:32
  retires, so super analytical. Correct.
• 42:35
  Not much gets by her either. No, no.
• 42:38
  We got a lot of we got a lot. Of whoopings growing up.
• 42:40
  She's a yeah, she's a cop of numbers, right?
• 42:43
  So I mean, she understands like, I'm sure that that sounds like
• 42:46
  the type of mom that when you're looking at college, you see
• 42:48
  someone. OK, well, it cost this and
• 42:50
  they're offering you XI mean to figure out why.
• 42:52
  And we only got this part of Y or whatever, you know?
• 42:54
  Yeah, dude, you have a good mom and dad.
• 42:57
  Like, yeah, they're really looking out over you.
• 43:00
  And you said brother. Yeah.
• 43:01
  Yeah. And so, so that's what they did.
• 43:03
  And so. That's.
• 43:04
  Kind of my thought process as I was transitioning out of a
• 43:08
  football and. Just but not but not track.
• 43:11
  I'm not hearing OK. So it's interesting.
• 43:14
  So at that time, remember I was, so I was going to college for
• 43:20
  football, not just for track. Track was something that I was
• 43:23
  just doing. But then when college, my
• 43:26
  passion for track, they started switching interesting enough.
• 43:31
  So football became less track and field and I think that's
• 43:35
  because of when we won a national championship there with
• 43:39
  with Nigel and all that, the four by one team.
• 43:41
  And so I began to enjoy that success like most people do when
• 43:46
  you have success. And so it started.
• 43:48
  Switching. And at that time, I was like,
• 43:51
  you know. Football, but I enjoy track.
• 43:55
  And so I wanted to focus more on that.
• 43:59
  Are you becoming more of a track fan?
• 44:02
  Like now you know who, what, what, what year did you graduate
• 44:06
  high school? I graduated.
• 44:07
  In 2010. So are you starting to learn
• 44:11
  like, oh, I see who? I understand who Justin Gatlin
• 44:14
  is, and I understand Usain Bolt? And yeah, so you started like,
• 44:18
  because it didn't sound like in high school, you knew.
• 44:21
  I ain't no nothing. So you're starting to like
• 44:24
  you're getting into the culture of track and field, the culture
• 44:26
  of this college as well. And so they begin to shift and
• 44:30
  so. But yeah, that's how it.
• 44:33
  Was it was more like 1, I thought was like my focus and
• 44:37
  then it just starts switching as track and field being a a sport
• 44:41
  that I enjoyed, but I still weren't thinking about coaching
• 44:45
  at all. It's just something that I I
• 44:46
  prefer over the other. What a healthy example though,
• 44:50
  you know, even actually, you know what, this is interesting.
• 44:53
  I just kind of put these two together.
• 44:55
  I'm always afraid of people that get that feel stuck in
• 44:58
  something, whether it's a job, a major, a sport, because it
• 45:01
  becomes their identity and they feel like they're trapped or too
• 45:04
  far. It's, you know, I can't switch
• 45:07
  now, etcetera, etcetera. But knowing that things run out
• 45:10
  of time sometimes right now, some things shouldn't, right?
• 45:13
  Marriages, your faith, etcetera. But your job or a major or a
• 45:17
  sport that I participate in might run out.
• 45:21
  That's OK. You know, you might not play
• 45:23
  football until you're 80. Some people do.
• 45:25
  I'm sure there's an 80 year old league out there somewhere, but
• 45:29
  that it's healthy to explore other passions just like your
• 45:32
  dad did, right? 30 plus years on the trooper
• 45:35
  force and then was like, you know what, that was fun and all,
• 45:38
  but you know who I am? I'm really chef dad.
• 45:40
  I want to really learn this more because easily look and you know
• 45:45
  your dad better than anybody. I I could see.
• 45:46
  I've never met him, but I could see someone like your dad going,
• 45:50
  Dude, that ship of sail. I want to do that in high
• 45:52
  school. I wanted to become a trooper.
• 45:54
  Had a great career. I'm too old, you know?
• 45:57
  Old dog, new. Old dog, new tricks new.
• 45:59
  Tricks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:00
  And. Instead was like, what's
• 46:02
  stopping me from what? He was probably 50 something at
• 46:05
  that point. What's stopping me from 50
• 46:06
  something to learning something new?
• 46:08
  I have a passion for it and he did it.
• 46:10
  And here's the same story in a younger version of you going,
• 46:13
  hey, man, football's been awesome.
• 46:14
  Like thank God for football. I, I might not be in college or
• 46:17
  this college, if it weren't for football, might not have
• 46:20
  explored track the way I do if it weren't for football.
• 46:23
  But maybe football is not primary anymore.
• 46:26
  There's other things in my life. That's a, that's a, that's a
• 46:28
  great lesson for our coaches that feel stuck coaching track
• 46:32
  and field or feel stuck that they're a football coach who
• 46:34
  coaches tracking, which is that it was the other way around.
• 46:37
  I wish I was a track coach who did a little football.
• 46:40
  That's a great example that it's, it's possible no matter
• 46:43
  what age and your dad shows us that.
• 46:45
  So that's really cool. I love it.
• 46:47
  It's been, it's been. It's it was the interesting
• 46:49
  experience and I just, I think the, the biggest thing for me is
• 46:52
  just always like, OK, like I know this is a it's it's season.
• 46:56
  Like when you think about the sports, like every like all of
• 47:00
  us, you know, we may not, we're a lot of us won't be pro
• 47:04
  athletes of any kind. Most of us, we know and you know
• 47:07
  the percentage better than anyone from track and field or
• 47:10
  football or whatever the sport might be, but we will be
• 47:13
  professionals and other things. And so my goal deep down in the
• 47:19
  foundation of who I was like, this is just a season.
• 47:21
  But what is Bradley 20-30 years for?
• 47:26
  You know, I don't want to be the, you know, you remember back
• 47:29
  in the day when I was doing XY and ZI never wanted that to be
• 47:33
  my. Story.
• 47:33
  Yeah, yeah. That's your only story.
• 47:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but anyway, that's just kind
• 47:39
  of the pivotal. Point So when you graduated,
• 47:41
  what do you, because I don't see you, I don't hear you saying,
• 47:45
  yeah, so I'm now going to go find a coaching job.
• 47:46
  What do you what's your first step out of after graduating
• 47:49
  college? So I.
• 47:52
  Started working with a moment so as I mentioned a business I was
• 47:56
  had a business degree sports management and then I got a call
• 48:00
  from this these two gentlemen that had just bought this glove
• 48:05
  company they they made baseball and softball gloves and they
• 48:08
  customized them and they called me say.
• 48:11
  Hey, we've got this. Yearly internship where you
• 48:15
  know, for this little sports company that meet that we bought
• 48:18
  and your name came up. It was in Rome and I was like,
• 48:23
  sure, sure, I'll, I'll do it. And and at this time, this was
• 48:27
  2015. They said, look, we don't have
• 48:29
  an office so you get to work from home.
• 48:31
  Oh wow. And I'm like work from home
• 48:34
  like. What is that?
• 48:35
  Yeah. What is that?
• 48:36
  Two years ago, right, Ten years ago.
• 48:38
  And I was telling like my parents about, hey, I just got
• 48:40
  this yearly internship and I get to work from home and they're
• 48:43
  like. What?
• 48:44
  Yeah, especially accountant and cop.
• 48:46
  They're like, wait a minute, that doesn't exist.
• 48:48
  What doesn't exist? And so I was working from home
• 48:52
  and, you know, there we had certain sessions we would go in
• 48:54
  and I did that for a year. What were you doing?
• 48:57
  Were you marketing? Were you product development?
• 49:00
  What? So it was a little bit of
• 49:01
  everything. So it was just the 2 owners and
• 49:03
  myself and they had just bought this business.
• 49:06
  And so I was the marketing guy, the OPS guy, sales, I mean,
• 49:10
  everything that a a business would do, I was doing it.
• 49:15
  And so it was really great for me because I learned a lot about
• 49:18
  entrepreneurship. At that, at that.
• 49:21
  Time because these other gentlemen had already had other
• 49:25
  businesses that they bought and sold and this is just something
• 49:27
  they wanted to try to see if they could do something.
• 49:30
  And so I just gravitated to learn a lot from them did that
• 49:34
  for a year and then when I didn't know what to do I started
• 49:40
  teaching. I started teaching at A at a
• 49:46
  Christian School here in town, Unity Christian School up here
• 49:48
  in Rome. And I was the PE teacher and
• 49:52
  health teacher and then started coaching football, started
• 49:55
  coaching track, track and field. And that's where I started
• 50:00
  dabbling in coaching and, but I wasn't set out to be a coach or
• 50:07
  to really have a passion for it. What was the first?
• 50:10
  Can you remember, like the first, maybe not necessarily the
• 50:13
  first day, but the first month of of coaching, whether it's
• 50:16
  football or or track and field, because you know, it's, it's one
• 50:19
  thing to be an athlete. It's different when you're on
• 50:21
  the other side. You know, to your point about,
• 50:24
  you know, most athletes, young people are, you know, C ball,
• 50:28
  hit ball. Coach tells me to run, I run,
• 50:30
  Coach tells me to jump, I jump. I don't question it.
• 50:32
  I just do it. Now you got to be on the side of
• 50:35
  telling young people to jump and you have in your mind why, you
• 50:39
  know, to do this or run that. What did like, was it like a
• 50:44
  fish to water like when you first started coaching?
• 50:46
  You're like, oh man, that your brain has to switch differently.
• 50:49
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. How was that first experiences
• 50:51
  for you? I.
• 50:52
  Think for track and field it. Was OK.
• 50:55
  Like I thought about all the things that Coach Bird, Coach
• 50:59
  Black will make us do and I and you know that I has phenomenal
• 51:05
  coaches. They were great.
• 51:06
  And so I was like, OK. What would they?
• 51:08
  Do and so this was the warm up. These are all the So my mom
• 51:12
  began to think like OK. Coach.
• 51:14
  Bird. Coach Black.
• 51:16
  These are the things they made us do and we had.
• 51:18
  Success. So let me pull that from them
• 51:22
  and just put it on some middle school and high school kids and
• 51:25
  just see what. Happened very common.
• 51:26
  Very common. And so that's what I did.
• 51:29
  I would say to answer that question, like the first 30 days
• 51:32
  of being a track and field coach.
• 51:37
  You're a smart guy, did you when you're right in town?
• 51:40
  So are you calling Rochelle and Scott and like, hey, man, I was
• 51:44
  thinking about doing this. What do you think about that?
• 51:46
  Are you going online? You know, you have the luxury of
• 51:48
  you have YouTube at this point, things like that.
• 51:50
  But what are you doing in regards to like almost coaching
• 51:53
  education? I don't want to ask that
• 51:54
  question yet right now, but this is just, you know, learning how
• 51:57
  to walk for crying out loud. Correct.
• 51:58
  I like it. So it was.
• 52:01
  More leaning on them, Coach Byrd and Coach Black.
• 52:04
  And I've had all the types of workouts that they, you know, I
• 52:07
  started just looking at all the workouts they had, they'd given
• 52:10
  us and I was like, OK, this is how they did it.
• 52:15
  I remember. Shoot.
• 52:17
  Like the summer training program that we got from them, I just
• 52:20
  used that as as a foundation because you know, you don't know
• 52:23
  what you don't know. And so this is this seems to be
• 52:27
  helpful and I'll tweak a couple things here and there, but I
• 52:30
  just use their blueprint like the.
• 52:32
  First year of coaching. I just use what they would, what
• 52:36
  I got from them all the years. Probably very common.
• 52:39
  We you're exactly right. You don't know anything, but you
• 52:41
  know how you were coached? Well, especially if you had a
• 52:45
  good experience with it's like, well, it worked for me.
• 52:47
  Correct. Let's try that.
• 52:49
  What else? What else is it?
• 52:50
  It's actually probably the safer way versus just like, well, I'm
• 52:52
  just going to make it up. Screw what my coaches did, I'm
• 52:54
  going to make it up. So it is probably the safer way,
• 52:57
  especially if you had a good experience and good results from
• 52:59
  it. So how long were you at this
• 53:01
  school? So I only I only.
• 53:03
  Taught there for two years, but I still coach their track and
• 53:08
  field team to this day. Is that right?
• 53:10
  Yeah, so. There for two years.
• 53:12
  Go ahead. Go ahead, Mike.
• 53:13
  Yeah, well, no, because it still feels like you're not settled on
• 53:16
  a career at this point. It's still early.
• 53:18
  So an intern, you're teaching. So what do you do after two
• 53:22
  years of teaching though? So after two years I get.
• 53:25
  This call. From another gentleman who
• 53:28
  actually he taught my wife. He was a professor at Shorter
• 53:31
  and, and he said, Hey, I'm starting this company.
• 53:35
  So I want you to understand like this, this business always has
• 53:38
  been like gravitating the start of life has always, the Lord has
• 53:41
  just always put in my path. So I got a call, he said, hey,
• 53:45
  we started this company. It's a data science company and
• 53:49
  we want to bring you on and be a data analyst and all that.
• 53:54
  And that offer actually happened the first year of my teaching
• 53:57
  when I was at Unity, but they weren't ready for me to join
• 54:01
  them. So I left after two years.
• 54:04
  I left and did that for six years.
• 54:07
  OK, hold on. First of all, you said your
• 54:09
  wife. Did you meet your wife at
• 54:10
  Shorter? I sure did.
• 54:12
  Dude, you definitely need to find that coach from Gardner
• 54:14
  Webb. You know what I'm saying?
• 54:16
  Like I do. Yeah, think about this.
• 54:19
  Your life radically changed because he said because he took
• 54:22
  that extra step and said, hey, man, I know the guy's shorter.
• 54:25
  Let's get you connected there. I mean that that wasn't just
• 54:28
  about scholarship, for crying out loud.
• 54:30
  That was about life there. I love that.
• 54:32
  Second of all, you did data science for six years.
• 54:36
  I'm I didn't hear, I don't know what major you would pick for
• 54:40
  that, but I don't think that that's something that I would
• 54:43
  have thought just from hearing a little bit of your story.
• 54:46
  What does that entail? How do those guys even find you
• 54:49
  and what does that entail? So.
• 54:51
  I think this kind of goes back to what we're talking about,
• 54:54
  like being more than than a football or track and field
• 54:58
  athlete. And and so all these different
• 55:01
  things were in Rome. And so like going to shorter
• 55:05
  and, you know, playing football and running and participating in
• 55:09
  track and field and doing things in the community.
• 55:12
  These were individuals that have heard about, Hey, Bradley Moon
• 55:16
  is of of great character. You know, if you want to start
• 55:19
  something and you're looking for a, a young man or woman, this is
• 55:23
  this is an individual that you should look to.
• 55:27
  And so all the all the jobs or occupations that I've got that
• 55:31
  I've received over this time have always been phone.
• 55:33
  Calls from me. And so that's how I found like,
• 55:37
  I didn't know this was a thing. They just hey, I remember you.
• 55:42
  I taught your. Wife.
• 55:43
  All these different things, I'm like, OK, sure.
• 55:45
  I don't have a conversation because I always had this desire
• 55:49
  to be in business, to be an entrepreneur, all the things.
• 55:52
  And so that's kind of led me down that path.
• 55:55
  Now typically a guy like that, I've met several of you crazy
• 55:59
  people you you've got 1000 ideas for businesses ever explore any
• 56:05
  of those or. We'll, we'll get to, yeah, yeah,
• 56:09
  we'll, we'll get to those here a little.
• 56:11
  Bit So what does a data? You know, I have this picture in
• 56:13
  my head of what a data scientist does.
• 56:15
  What does a data scientist actually do?
• 56:17
  So it was a data science company and in my role was like an
• 56:20
  analyst there and so. We.
• 56:23
  Had a technology where if you had an image and we had this
• 56:28
  little image handler and then it would render or produce like
• 56:34
  6000 different algorithms that would actually expose more
• 56:38
  information. So that could be a mammogram or
• 56:43
  ACT scan, MRI. And so my job in that was to
• 56:47
  review those. And so I had to learn.
• 56:49
  I learned all this on the job. Like I didn't, you know, I
• 56:52
  didn't go to school for this. I didn't.
• 56:53
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 56:55
  And so it was a really neat technology and you know that.
• 56:58
  And so I analyzed a lot of images.
• 57:01
  So you're looking at scans like of the brain and MRI of the.
• 57:04
  Brain and. No offense, what the hell are
• 57:07
  you doing? Because I'm not.
• 57:09
  It gets me a little concerned about the medical field if
• 57:12
  you're diagnosed, if you are diagnosing, because I'm not, no.
• 57:15
  OK, OK. There was no diagnosing.
• 57:17
  It was more like, so their their system was as I learned about
• 57:23
  the algorithm. So like the internal team really
• 57:26
  taught me a really good job of like what the algorithm was
• 57:29
  exposing like new information. And So what I would do is I,
• 57:34
  hey, look, these are say out of the 6000 algorithms or results,
• 57:39
  these are the 35 that seem to be exposing more data because it's
• 57:42
  talking about how do you expose more data in the end.
• 57:46
  And so then what we would do, we would have a radiologist or
• 57:49
  someone say, hey, look, this is what we this is what we found,
• 57:53
  you know, is this useful to you? So no diagnosing at all.
• 57:57
  This is just I was. Yeah, yeah.
• 58:00
  OK. No.
• 58:00
  Very concerned. Apparently I, I, I didn't, you
• 58:03
  know, you didn't introduce yourself as Doctor Moon.
• 58:05
  So I'm like, where do I'm so concerned, OK.
• 58:08
  So and. Was this fun work for you?
• 58:11
  It was. It was.
• 58:12
  It was. It was.
• 58:14
  Fun work because of the rooms that I was able to be a part of,
• 58:18
  because I keep going back to like my core is wanting to be a
• 58:22
  business owner, an entrepreneur and being in these rooms where
• 58:26
  this is a startup and being in the rooms to see how the the
• 58:29
  sausage is being made. You like that aspect?
• 58:32
  That aspect of it, that's what I was like.
• 58:34
  So I would like I said, I took this job to learn to learn.
• 58:38
  Like how does business actually ran?
• 58:40
  Yeah, yeah. Like how do they market
• 58:42
  something? We have a new product and nobody
• 58:45
  knows about it. How That's what I was just kind
• 58:47
  of being on a flop. Not necessarily looking at the
• 58:49
  output of the algorithm. Yeah, OK, That's where I was.
• 58:51
  Just like Bradley is like, you know, I've done, whether it's
• 58:56
  the podcast or sales, Oregon coaching for a long, long time
• 58:59
  now. I'm an old man, so I have a
• 59:01
  pretty good bead on people after a few minutes to talk to them
• 59:03
  like this. You know, there's people who
• 59:06
  love that, who love give me 1000 pages of data and go find the
• 59:11
  worm. The one thing, right, people,
• 59:13
  just I mean, that's a that's a skill absolutely isn't.
• 59:15
  Thank God people have that skill.
• 59:17
  You I'm like, man, I just can't see looking at the this code and
• 59:20
  this algorithm and these scans and and finding the ones that
• 59:23
  are given the best, you know, data output to go give to
• 59:26
  someone else. That that's the part that partly
• 59:28
  that, but also the and then to go give it to someone else.
• 59:31
  That doesn't seem like Bradley seems like the kind of guy who's
• 59:33
  like, I want to get my hands in it.
• 59:36
  Yeah. So that's why I was like this.
• 59:38
  This is fun. You're talking about kind of the
• 59:40
  back end stuff of like. Behind the curtains.
• 59:43
  I see how they're doing, how they think about R&D.
• 59:46
  I'm thinking I see how they they find markets to go to, how they
• 59:50
  promote this versus how we promoted batting gloves.
• 59:54
  Yeah, OK. That.
• 59:56
  Makes. A lot of sense that that was
• 59:58
  that. It wasn't so much of the actual
• 1:00:00
  job. It was like, this is an
• 1:00:01
  opportunity for someone that's young, in their early 20s to
• 1:00:05
  learn. About how how to actually start
• 1:00:07
  a business. What does it look like?
• 1:00:10
  And so did that. For.
• 1:00:12
  Six years. Six years.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah, well, you must have been good and valuable because, you
• 1:00:16
  know, you don't keep people around.
• 1:00:18
  You don't keep people around for six years, man, you know.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah. And still coaching at the the
• 1:00:24
  school. Correct.
• 1:00:25
  And so during this time, this is where like the coach things
• 1:00:34
  started kind of dialing in and it really happened with I had
• 1:00:40
  two athletes, they are in college now, a Cooper, Cooper
• 1:00:44
  Giddens and Lizzie Pardue. Cooper's at Lee University and
• 1:00:48
  Lizzie Pardue is at Sanford. And I had these two individuals
• 1:00:53
  since they were in middle school and then did watch them progress
• 1:00:58
  as young, you know, men and women and on and that coaching.
• 1:01:04
  Bug. I started tweaking for me when
• 1:01:06
  they like coach, I really like track and field and they said I
• 1:01:11
  think I could be really. Good.
• 1:01:14
  And so me, I was like, oh, Mike, I got to get educated.
• 1:01:19
  I got a, you know, I've got to start, you know, cooking my.
• 1:01:24
  Own. System, if you will, and I those
• 1:01:28
  two athletes really started this journey of like how I got to
• 1:01:34
  where I'm at now was the really start of all of.
• 1:01:38
  This. How are you balancing coaching
• 1:01:41
  and a full time job? Like are you getting off at 3:00
• 1:01:44
  every day? How are you working that out?
• 1:01:46
  That's correct. So I I have it set up where like
• 1:01:48
  I have all the meetings I need before and then I get off say
• 1:01:52
  3330 and go coach. And that's what I do now in the
• 1:01:55
  fall with the athletes that I see now this the schedule is
• 1:01:59
  still the same. And what I've appreciated with
• 1:02:01
  the people that I work with, they say you're an adult, you
• 1:02:05
  know, it needs to be done and don't have anyone waiting for
• 1:02:09
  you material. If you can do that.
• 1:02:13
  And then you can continue to do this coaching and work with us.
• 1:02:17
  And so it's really been a neat situation.
• 1:02:20
  And I'm, I'm grateful because it's, it's, it's, it's not very
• 1:02:23
  common, if you will. Yeah, I was gonna say, it's so
• 1:02:26
  free. And when you get complete trust,
• 1:02:27
  you got to earn it. I get that.
• 1:02:29
  And some people will say, you know, I want my employees to
• 1:02:34
  earn it, but then know that there's never a finish line to
• 1:02:36
  actually earn it. You know, it's like, no, they
• 1:02:38
  still haven't done this or they've only been here five
• 1:02:40
  years. Well, what is it?
• 1:02:41
  Is it 10 years? Is it 15?
• 1:02:43
  What, what is it? And then it's 10 years like,
• 1:02:45
  well, things have changed in the business and I still got a, you
• 1:02:47
  know, it's like, man, it's so freeing when you are allowed to
• 1:02:52
  be yourself, be told what the goal is and then go, go to the
• 1:02:57
  goal, go go get it. And, and you know what, if you
• 1:03:00
  don't, you know, there's consequences to that.
• 1:03:01
  We'll talk about that. But if you can do it legally and
• 1:03:04
  ethically to get to the goal, go get her done.
• 1:03:06
  Maybe you can figure out stuff and teach us how to do things.
• 1:03:09
  That's so freeing, dude. I love that for you.
• 1:03:12
  Yeah. So and so then there, yeah.
• 1:03:16
  So I left there and then I started working my and then
• 1:03:20
  that's and so that's how coaching really in there in that
• 1:03:23
  six year window of doing that full time and then tweaking the
• 1:03:27
  coaches when I start really falling in love with it.
• 1:03:30
  What? How old are you at the end of
• 1:03:31
  the six years of that company? 20 Eightish. 20 Eightish I.
• 1:03:36
  So I left there. In 20, 2023.
• 1:03:43
  So I was there. I, I started working there in
• 1:03:47
  27/20/18 ish. That's 5 five years, yeah.
• 1:03:53
  And then I left in in 2023. So.
• 1:03:57
  You are. So why'd you leave?
• 1:03:59
  And, and you know, if you're, if you really are still an
• 1:04:02
  entrepreneur, that's a dumb question because that's what
• 1:04:04
  Sierra entrepreneurs do. They leave so they can go
• 1:04:07
  somewhere. I mean, that's just what you do.
• 1:04:08
  So I was I. Started there.
• 1:04:10
  I started working with them at. I was 27 and then, yeah, then in
• 1:04:16
  32 is when I left and then I'll be 34 in November and six days.
• 1:04:22
  Oh man, happy early birthday brother.
• 1:04:23
  Thank you. And you're so young.
• 1:04:25
  What a pup. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:27
  So so I I. Left.
• 1:04:31
  Because I wanted to really start pursuing more coaching.
• 1:04:34
  A. Little bit more so the dial
• 1:04:37
  really has been turning here. And so I wanted to leave there
• 1:04:42
  to pursue more coaching and then.
• 1:04:46
  Why did you think you had to leave for that?
• 1:04:47
  Because you're you're working a full time gig, doing well,
• 1:04:50
  successful and coaching. So it's not like that's getting
• 1:04:55
  in the way of coaching you. You wanted to do more into
• 1:04:59
  coaching. What what?
• 1:05:01
  Like what? What was the job hindering you
• 1:05:03
  from? I I.
• 1:05:05
  Think it was more. Of.
• 1:05:08
  I wanted to be able to have coach more, more students and so
• 1:05:14
  I I thought that, you know, leaving would would be a good
• 1:05:20
  right for I could do that. And and, you know, it was a lot
• 1:05:24
  of unknown about, you know, maybe I.
• 1:05:25
  Shouldn't. Leave.
• 1:05:26
  Maybe I shouldn't, but then I was telling my wife that I think
• 1:05:29
  I should really turn up the Dow and coaching more and to leave
• 1:05:33
  this and, you know, then if I needed to get something else to
• 1:05:37
  kind of, you know, supplement, then I would.
• 1:05:40
  But I I at that time I thought I really wanted to pursue this
• 1:05:44
  coaching and coach more athletes and things that nature.
• 1:05:46
  So I start dialing that up a lot more.
• 1:05:48
  So what's that look like? Because you know what's funny to
• 1:05:51
  me as you're married and I've been married for 17, almost 18
• 1:05:55
  years now, the decisions that you used to make on your own
• 1:05:59
  just don't happen anymore. You're, you're, you have a
• 1:06:01
  partner, you have someone that you're beholden to.
• 1:06:03
  Correct. And women are typically my
• 1:06:05
  experience, a little bit more practical, not necessarily
• 1:06:10
  educated, but at least for my wife, smarter than me.
• 1:06:13
  So when you make it, when you're going through this process, you
• 1:06:17
  know, she's got a, she's got to give you a blessing, right?
• 1:06:20
  Or or you know, other things start to happen.
• 1:06:23
  And. Those things.
• 1:06:24
  So she had to be, you know, kind of a good sounding board for you
• 1:06:30
  to talk things out and help you see things that maybe you were
• 1:06:32
  missing and and help encourage you for things that maybe you
• 1:06:36
  needed some encouragement to. Yeah.
• 1:06:38
  So she. Was very supportive and still it
• 1:06:41
  is because I said, look, I really want to turn this
• 1:06:44
  coaching dial up. I mean I said, you know this the
• 1:06:47
  day job is great and you know without going to all the little
• 1:06:50
  details, you know, I was like, you know, maybe I want to leave
• 1:06:53
  it's not fun and there was a lot of business things that was
• 1:06:56
  going on that I just didn't want to be a part of anymore all
• 1:07:00
  these type of things. And so I started thinking about
• 1:07:03
  well what what can I do? Like what is Bradley?
• 1:07:05
  I said, well, I can coach. I know about track and field.
• 1:07:08
  And so I start turning that dial up and and then I just and I
• 1:07:14
  just started coaching more athletes and then Sprint free
• 1:07:17
  training started. And so, yeah.
• 1:07:21
  So so how did you coach more athletes like you?
• 1:07:23
  You go to a different school or and is Sprint free a club?
• 1:07:27
  Tell tell us more about that. So what I started?
• 1:07:29
  Doing is I in Rome, I really enjoyed the fact that like,
• 1:07:35
  first of all, the two athletes that I had, I took them to, you
• 1:07:39
  know, a lot of the summer meets and then doing stuff indoor and
• 1:07:43
  they really had a great experience.
• 1:07:45
  So they were training with me through the fall and all these
• 1:07:47
  different things, right? And I was like, you know, I'm
• 1:07:49
  sure there's a lot more athletes that would benefit from getting
• 1:07:54
  this experience that enjoy track and field sprinting and all
• 1:07:58
  that. And I said I want to be able to
• 1:08:00
  pour into that. And if we're going to do it
• 1:08:02
  appropriately, that requires fall training when you know, all
• 1:08:06
  the things that we're familiar with, Mike.
• 1:08:09
  And so that'll I had, I want to have more kids.
• 1:08:11
  And so I wanted to spend more time doing that.
• 1:08:15
  And so, and that's kind of how I started the little Sprint, the
• 1:08:20
  Sprint free stuff and, and, and started that because it was a
• 1:08:25
  way for me to get more athletes and give them an experience.
• 1:08:28
  These these athletes that really enjoy track and field.
• 1:08:33
  Hey, look, this is going to help you for spring if you're
• 1:08:36
  training in the fall, because we know that, you know, it doesn't
• 1:08:40
  start in March when you start training, it starts a lot more
• 1:08:43
  before then. And so I had a real good group
• 1:08:47
  of of athletes rough about 15, about 15 or 17 that.
• 1:08:53
  How do you find that? That's what I was wondering.
• 1:08:55
  You know, so because you talk about turn of the dial, you want
• 1:08:57
  to go from 3:00 to 5:00 because I work 8:00 to 3:00 or whatnot.
• 1:09:01
  But three to five, March, April, May to OK, this is maybe a noon
• 1:09:05
  to 5:00 because of different groups and, and things like
• 1:09:07
  that, call it 365 days a year at this point.
• 1:09:10
  So you hang a shingle out and that's that's fine, that's one
• 1:09:12
  thing. But how do you find these
• 1:09:14
  athletes? So it's interesting is really
• 1:09:17
  organically so the the couple kids that I had.
• 1:09:21
  They did well. They tell a friend and you know
• 1:09:25
  that's how. I.
• 1:09:26
  Grew the the Sprint free coaching business, if you will.
• 1:09:32
  And it's just really word of mouth and then you post stuff
• 1:09:35
  about it, you know, you come on. Instagram.
• 1:09:38
  Social media, but like the local group has really been word of
• 1:09:42
  mouth. Yeah, it's how how it's
• 1:09:44
  happened. And how'd you come up with the
• 1:09:45
  name Sprint Free Training? So.
• 1:09:48
  Interesting enough there is a another running club by the name
• 1:09:51
  of Run Free Training and they are owned Jay Stevenson and I
• 1:09:57
  can't think of the Chad Hall they started this where it was
• 1:10:01
  essentially like online coaching for distance runners.
• 1:10:06
  JJ Stevenson was actually a cross country coach at Shore.
• 1:10:11
  So that's how we. Met.
• 1:10:13
  And I, him and I got together and we were like, hey, like we
• 1:10:17
  could do this. For.
• 1:10:18
  Sprinters. Right.
• 1:10:22
  And so we met and I was like, yeah, that's, that was great,
• 1:10:25
  especially at the time when I was, we wanted to dial up this
• 1:10:27
  thing. I said that'd be great and all
• 1:10:29
  that. And so we kind of with run free,
• 1:10:32
  we said Sprint free just to keep it simple.
• 1:10:35
  And that's how it really started.
• 1:10:38
  I started just kind of taking the reins on that and then
• 1:10:42
  actually legitimize, I would say like having it as a, as a actual
• 1:10:47
  business, not just, hey, look, I'm, this is what I'm doing, but
• 1:10:50
  you know, all the little things that actually make it a
• 1:10:52
  business. So.
• 1:10:53
  So who's running jump free training and throw free training
• 1:10:56
  and vault free training? You know who?
• 1:10:58
  And you know, that was that was the idea.
• 1:11:02
  It's so funny. I do have those what those
• 1:11:05
  domains I actually did buy. But yeah, it was just, it was
• 1:11:09
  just something. That, you know, he had to run
• 1:11:12
  free and we decided, hey, Sprint free sounds fine and kind of ran
• 1:11:15
  with. So that's how it really started,
• 1:11:18
  the name and all that. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:11:19
  I like that. So, you know, we talked about
• 1:11:22
  when you typically when you first get into coaching, you
• 1:11:25
  fall back to how you were coached and and sometimes that's
• 1:11:28
  perfectly fine. I mean, you know, I I try, I try
• 1:11:30
  to think of someone who, you know, was coached by Vince
• 1:11:32
  Anderson and be like, man, you're pretty sad.
• 1:11:34
  If you paid attention, you, you kind of know the play, you know,
• 1:11:38
  most of us, you know, most of us are probably coached fairly
• 1:11:42
  well, not optimally, but fairly well and, and typically fairly
• 1:11:46
  safe. But then we start adding our own
• 1:11:49
  thing because we learn it from somewhere, whether it's coaching
• 1:11:52
  education, sometimes experience, etcetera.
• 1:11:55
  What are you and, and, and maybe where does it start or maybe not
• 1:11:59
  at all? Where does coaching education
• 1:12:01
  fit into this? And you know, for coaching
• 1:12:03
  education, I'll always explain it kind of two ways.
• 1:12:05
  There's formal and informal. You talked about some informal
• 1:12:08
  training, informal coaching education and that's calling
• 1:12:11
  coach Byrd, coach Black like and and neither one's more
• 1:12:15
  important. By the way, the informal and
• 1:12:16
  formal coaching education extremely valuable that
• 1:12:19
  peer-to-peer that informal extremely valuable.
• 1:12:22
  Absolutely. Formal is more like our USATF
• 1:12:24
  level 1 level twos, USTFCA coaching Academy.
• 1:12:27
  Altis does a great job. Are you doing anything coaching
• 1:12:32
  education wise during this point?
• 1:12:33
  I am so when I told I talked about the two athletes that
• 1:12:38
  really kind of started the that really led me down this path of
• 1:12:41
  coaching and. I said.
• 1:12:44
  Oh, these these athletes really enjoy it.
• 1:12:47
  And the Lord has given me them an opportunity to shepherd them.
• 1:12:51
  And I want to make sure as a coach that I give them the best
• 1:12:54
  opportunity that they possibly can.
• 1:12:56
  And so I said I need to get educated.
• 1:12:59
  So I went through the, you know, the USATFCCA Coaches Association
• 1:13:05
  and started learning about sprints, hurdles and relays.
• 1:13:09
  And Vince was the. Vince was one of the.
• 1:13:14
  Teachers it was. Him, Vince Anderson and I think
• 1:13:18
  it is it Tommy. Bowden the Tommy.
• 1:13:21
  Badon. Yeah, he was.
• 1:13:23
  They were the two leading the very first coaching education
• 1:13:28
  that I went. Through head coach of Louisiana.
• 1:13:32
  That's correct. And and it was like mind
• 1:13:35
  blowing. Yeah.
• 1:13:37
  And you? Know now what do you mean mind
• 1:13:39
  blowing? This is interesting because
• 1:13:40
  coaching education changed my life.
• 1:13:42
  Like not only coaching, but yeah, the rest of my life with
• 1:13:45
  my mentor Boo Scheck Slater. What when you say it was mind
• 1:13:49
  blowing because you have a pretty good.
• 1:13:50
  I know Scott well and I know coach Blackwell, you know,
• 1:13:52
  they're they're very good. Like I would tell you, whatever
• 1:13:55
  they're doing, they were doing it right, you know?
• 1:13:56
  Things like that. What was it?
• 1:14:00
  What was mind blowing? Was it like I remember when I
• 1:14:03
  did jumps level 2 with Boo, I remember what was mind blowing.
• 1:14:08
  That's probably how I would have described.
• 1:14:09
  It was not so much that I learned some new things.
• 1:14:12
  I certainly did, no questions asked, but I learned that I was
• 1:14:16
  doing a lot of things correctly, just not in the right order.
• 1:14:20
  And I literally went home. I continued doing a lot of the
• 1:14:22
  same things I would do with some tweaks that I learned, but
• 1:14:25
  changed order, you know of it. And I mean huge like the the
• 1:14:30
  kids I coached my first five years were drastically
• 1:14:33
  different. The second five years that I
• 1:14:34
  coach, I mean like way better. So I would say that was mind
• 1:14:37
  blowing. Like, oh, the concept that I was
• 1:14:38
  actually doing some things right, wrong order was mimic to
• 1:14:41
  me. What what about you?
• 1:14:42
  Because you have a pretty good foundation at this point.
• 1:14:43
  It was, it was very similar. It was just the sequencing and
• 1:14:48
  when they were talking about it and about just like how you
• 1:14:52
  place certain things and I'm like.
• 1:14:54
  Oh, that makes sense. And, you know, as as sprinters
• 1:15:00
  and speed and all these different things, I said, OK,
• 1:15:04
  I'm going to do that. And it really like changed the
• 1:15:09
  way how I approached my coaching and the systems.
• 1:15:13
  And it was just a matter of placement.
• 1:15:16
  And so when I went through there, I was like, Oh my
• 1:15:18
  goodness, I've learned so much. And I couldn't wait.
• 1:15:20
  I couldn't wait to try these different.
• 1:15:23
  Things and. And so that was the first, first
• 1:15:26
  coach going through like formal coaching that I went through.
• 1:15:31
  And then every year I, I do one just to kind of stay up to date
• 1:15:36
  on all the different things. And then then I went to to
• 1:15:40
  Altus. Because how'd you find out about
• 1:15:42
  Altus? So I I.
• 1:15:46
  Really enjoy learning a lot. And so I was like, I went
• 1:15:49
  through the, the coaches association and then I, I think
• 1:15:55
  I may have been on the Internet or something and Stu and Dan
• 1:15:59
  Path had popped up somewhere and I said, oh.
• 1:16:02
  This is really neat. I said Altus, you know, they
• 1:16:05
  work with professional athletes, electric athletes, blah, blah,
• 1:16:08
  blah, blah. We we know their track record
• 1:16:11
  and I called Coach Black. And I said hey.
• 1:16:15
  Do you know about? Altus.
• 1:16:16
  He's. Like, Oh yeah.
• 1:16:17
  I know. I said hey, I'm.
• 1:16:22
  I'm really thinking about, you know, going through that.
• 1:16:25
  I went through the Coast Association and I found this and
• 1:16:28
  I think this will be a really good next level.
• 1:16:32
  And what do you think about it? He said you should go because
• 1:16:36
  it's he was, he was saying that you will learn a lot just from a
• 1:16:41
  different perspective. And he said I should go.
• 1:16:45
  And I was like, OK, cool. And so I did the the coach's
• 1:16:48
  apprentice program where you did it for two days.
• 1:16:51
  What was that in in Phoenix or Atlanta?
• 1:16:54
  It was in Atlanta. Yeah, I was like, because they
• 1:16:56
  moved to Atlanta for a little while, so Andre Andreas Bain.
• 1:16:59
  So you probably met Andreas Guild podcast alum, by the way,
• 1:17:02
  love him and Stu, who's fantastic.
• 1:17:07
  And they had just, in fact, they're just moving back to
• 1:17:10
  Phoenix. Like, are they OK?
• 1:17:12
  Yeah, yeah, they're kind of there.
• 1:17:13
  They just bought. I don't know if I'm allowed to
• 1:17:15
  say so I won't say don't say it, but yeah, I just had a
• 1:17:17
  conversation with him and he told me some, some exciting
• 1:17:20
  things are happening. I love that for them because a,
• 1:17:23
  their passion for coaching and coaching education is
• 1:17:26
  outstanding. So I love what they're doing and
• 1:17:28
  they're the way they do it and and why they do it.
• 1:17:31
  So, but you get hang out with Andre, dude, he's so cool.
• 1:17:35
  He's so cool. I learned a lot from him as
• 1:17:38
  well. And so I was there.
• 1:17:40
  And kind of a side note, and I'll go back to Altus because I
• 1:17:43
  think it's important to land there is So Dan Path actually
• 1:17:49
  coached my mother-in-law when he was at LSU.
• 1:17:52
  Really. And so, yes, so wow.
• 1:17:57
  So my mother-in-law, Krista Schumann Algana, she is from
• 1:18:01
  Guatemala. OK.
• 1:18:03
  And she came to the states to, to Goretta, LSU and Dan Path and
• 1:18:12
  Lauren Seagrave where they come. And I remember just kind of
• 1:18:17
  telling them, hey, I sent a picture that hey, I'm, you know,
• 1:18:20
  with Dan Path and all these people learning about, you know,
• 1:18:23
  sprinting. And she said, oh, my goodness,
• 1:18:25
  Dan. Yeah, he coached me.
• 1:18:27
  All these years. You didn't know.
• 1:18:29
  I didn't know and so. We're at.
• 1:18:32
  You need to talk to your mother-in-law more that.
• 1:18:34
  You yeah, I didn't know I didn't I didn't really know all of that
• 1:18:37
  and so any anyway, long story. Krista had a great career.
• 1:18:41
  She was a, you know, she went to the Olympics and that she she's
• 1:18:46
  she's amazing. And and so I went up to Dan I.
• 1:18:50
  Said hey, did you? I said I.
• 1:18:52
  Think you coached my mother-in-law, Krista Schuman?
• 1:18:56
  He's like. Yeah, she was.
• 1:18:58
  From Guatemala, right? All these years.
• 1:19:02
  Mike. So we showed pictures and then
• 1:19:10
  Christmas showed me all the, the, the, the little yearbooks
• 1:19:14
  from when, you know, Lauren Seagrave and Dan Path were
• 1:19:16
  together and all, all these different things.
• 1:19:19
  And so anyway, that's a side note.
• 1:19:21
  So me, me and Dan had a really good connection there.
• 1:19:24
  But I enjoy those four days at Altus.
• 1:19:28
  I learned a lot. And then that's when Matthew
• 1:19:31
  Davis and I connected. Dude, So first of all, Dan Path,
• 1:19:34
  also Gill podcast alum, highly suggest you go back with him and
• 1:19:38
  Matthew. Now wait a minute, Matthew
• 1:19:39
  Davis, you got to forgive me. You know, 300 plus episodes.
• 1:19:43
  I the memory is not as good as it may.
• 1:19:46
  I'm I'm not a steel trap like bananas.
• 1:19:49
  But Matthew was, he's from the Pennsylvania 'cause I ran into
• 1:19:53
  him at Penn Relays one year. He's from Pennsylvania, correct?
• 1:19:55
  So he's down in Atlanta for the ACP is correct.
• 1:20:00
  OK. And so, yeah, tell me more.
• 1:20:03
  So you guys got connected together, huh?
• 1:20:05
  Yeah, so we. He's kind of a nerd, and I say
• 1:20:07
  that in a good way, like he's. Yes, OK, you can you.
• 1:20:09
  Can say that he knows it. We we, you know, remember when
• 1:20:12
  we were young and you know, you are young, you know, nerd was a
• 1:20:15
  bad thing, right? You get called a nerd, you know,
• 1:20:17
  that was, you know, now it's like, man, I, I love when people
• 1:20:19
  are nerds. I love when people call me a
• 1:20:20
  nerd about podcasting or track or whatever.
• 1:20:22
  Like that's yeah, opposite. He's a nerd.
• 1:20:25
  He's definitely a nerd. I'll say it.
• 1:20:26
  After he's doing and stuff, he's AI like it.
• 1:20:29
  I like his stuff on Twitter. He's a good father as well.
• 1:20:32
  So we met and we connected a little bit there and then maybe,
• 1:20:39
  maybe. 6:00 to 8:00. Months later, that's when he he
• 1:20:43
  shared that he was working on this, this track in motion.
• 1:20:47
  And when I saw it I was like man this is really neat and so IDMD
• 1:20:57
  him in ex. I was like, hey, bro, do you, do
• 1:21:00
  you Remember Me back from, you know, the office and all that?
• 1:21:03
  He said. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:05
  And I said, dude, I, I like what you've done.
• 1:21:07
  I've tested it out. I said, I think we could create
• 1:21:10
  a company around this. And so he was like, really?
• 1:21:15
  I'm like. Yes.
• 1:21:17
  I love the serial entrepreneur and the the the app nerd.
• 1:21:21
  Yeah, like, wait a minute. Really.
• 1:21:22
  We have peanut butter and Jelly? Wait, we.
• 1:21:24
  Correct. And so I was like, dude, I, I
• 1:21:27
  said I, I. Think you?
• 1:21:28
  I think you have. Something here and I think with
• 1:21:31
  we us working together we could really do something so.
• 1:21:35
  I flew up. To PA and met with him.
• 1:21:38
  I said, Hey, look, I'm a car, I'm a clean my schedule out and
• 1:21:41
  I said, let's just I just want to talk to you get to know me,
• 1:21:43
  but I know you only spend a few days with me and let's get
• 1:21:46
  together. So we spent a weekend together
• 1:21:48
  and and anyway, Long story short, we got together and I
• 1:21:52
  said, do that. I like this.
• 1:21:53
  And so I said, I really think there's a some what you built,
• 1:21:58
  we can develop it more and actually have a Sprint coach in
• 1:22:03
  your pocket and so. I love that term, by the way.
• 1:22:09
  And so we got together and we took what he had and now we've
• 1:22:13
  created remotion, which is a Sprint coach in your pocket that
• 1:22:17
  we have, we're working on and we've got a beta going on.
• 1:22:20
  And so that's how we got connected.
• 1:22:23
  So it wasn't an initial like at ACP like, oh, this is my God.
• 1:22:28
  You know, sometimes you just connect with it's like, man, I
• 1:22:31
  don't even know how, but we just we're the same people.
• 1:22:33
  Do we just hang out, right. It was little bit later and you
• 1:22:36
  saw him from see, we love to talk about the negative of
• 1:22:41
  social media and there's certainly negatives, yes, but
• 1:22:44
  but there's negatives in everything like they they is
• 1:22:47
  gone through the dawn of time. Every new thing that has been
• 1:22:52
  created has been touted as the end of society, right.
• 1:22:58
  Like when you know, new when type, when the Gutenberg press
• 1:23:02
  came out, you know, more people could read that was going to be
• 1:23:04
  in society because now information can flow freely and
• 1:23:06
  not just to be highly educated. The rich people is who it was
• 1:23:10
  back then that could read, right?
• 1:23:11
  That was going to be the downfall of society.
• 1:23:13
  And then radio came along. That was going to be the
• 1:23:15
  downfall society. Young kids are just going to
• 1:23:17
  listen to the radio and not want to work, right.
• 1:23:20
  And then TV came out. Oh, we're all going to become
• 1:23:22
  zombies. It's the end of the world,
• 1:23:24
  Terrible. And look at the stuff that they
• 1:23:25
  put on there, violence and sex and all this kind of stuff,
• 1:23:28
  right. And then the Internet of court,
• 1:23:30
  you know, you're, you're now we're in your age where you
• 1:23:32
  understand, like, Oh, I remember that people tell me the Internet
• 1:23:34
  is terrible and it's going to, you know, all of us young people
• 1:23:36
  are going to do terrible things because of the Internet.
• 1:23:38
  And then smartphones came out, but we're back to being zombies.
• 1:23:43
  And then social media came out and you know, everything has
• 1:23:46
  been touted as, you know, now VR and Bitcoin and stuff like that
• 1:23:50
  is all going to be, you know, the, the, the GP TS AI is going
• 1:23:55
  to be the end of the world, all those kind of stuff.
• 1:23:59
  Here is a great example of the positivity specifically of
• 1:24:02
  social media here, that if if social media is not around, I
• 1:24:05
  don't know that you 2 connect. We don't.
• 1:24:08
  Or at least it's much, much harder.
• 1:24:10
  It's much, much. Harder because like I already
• 1:24:12
  had, you know, like these ideas are like, you know, how do you
• 1:24:15
  how? As a.
• 1:24:16
  Coach, how can I provide value to someone that like is not in
• 1:24:20
  front of me? You know coaches have a lot of
• 1:24:23
  different responsibilities. Sometimes coaches can be there,
• 1:24:26
  but on the flip side, what about the athlete who doesn't have
• 1:24:29
  access to trading a lot, a lot, right.
• 1:24:34
  And so when I saw what he was already doing, I, I already been
• 1:24:38
  like thinking about like how to, and then I saw it.
• 1:24:40
  I was like, Oh my goodness, like, like, I don't know if he
• 1:24:45
  knew he was on to something, but he's, he's definitely on the
• 1:24:49
  path. And so we, I mean, we met
• 1:24:53
  together and now we're at a place where the Sprint coach in
• 1:24:57
  your pocket. We're, we're guided and we've
• 1:24:59
  done some teasers. He's posted some stuff on it,
• 1:25:01
  but we're, we're hoping that in, in January, we'll be in the App
• 1:25:06
  Store and, and it's, it's something that we spend a lot of
• 1:25:10
  time working on and with the science and all that.
• 1:25:13
  He's really good at that. I want to give him a lot of
• 1:25:16
  props because he understands like how it needs to look from
• 1:25:20
  the science perspective in the angles, in the math.
• 1:25:23
  And we're we're really excited about having that for athletes,
• 1:25:28
  coaches and parents that just don't have access I.
• 1:25:31
  Think that's so valuable because, you know, it's, it's
• 1:25:34
  easy for us to say, you know, and today in 20252026, man,
• 1:25:37
  there's no excuse that you don't know how to coach, right?
• 1:25:40
  YouTube, Altus, USTFCAUSATF, etcetera.
• 1:25:44
  Clinics, like I said, I just MC2 clinics that had amazing, you
• 1:25:48
  know, Vince Anderson and Britain and man, I mean, just amazing,
• 1:25:50
  amazing people speaking, right? So there's no excuse.
• 1:25:53
  However, we forget that most of our high school coaches are high
• 1:25:57
  school teachers. They're teaching, I'm going to
• 1:26:00
  liberally say 8 to 3. You know, they don't, you don't
• 1:26:02
  start at 8, you start at six and six.
• 1:26:04
  Yeah, if you have families and there's grading and all this
• 1:26:07
  kind of stuff, right. I love one of my favorite things
• 1:26:10
  to do. It sounds a little belittling,
• 1:26:12
  but it's, it's actually not. There's actually a lot of props
• 1:26:14
  for people who do this. Do you know what Reddit is?
• 1:26:16
  Do you know Reddit? Yeah, I do, yeah.
• 1:26:18
  Do you ever go? On Reddit, I haven't.
• 1:26:20
  No. Not recently, no.
• 1:26:22
  So, but you know, Reddit, you know, it's so Reddit's Reddit
• 1:26:24
  and then it has all these sub basically it's message boards
• 1:26:26
  back in the day. You know, everything old is new
• 1:26:28
  again. It's just a message board,
• 1:26:29
  right? And they have all the message
• 1:26:31
  boards of everything in the world.
• 1:26:31
  There's message awards about cats, there's message awards
• 1:26:33
  about podcasts, there's message awards about Nike, you know,
• 1:26:37
  everything, right? And so there's track and field,
• 1:26:40
  there's track and field, there's sprinting, there's hurdles.
• 1:26:42
  And people go on there and discuss many, many different
• 1:26:44
  things. It's the Internet.
• 1:26:45
  So many, many different things, right?
• 1:26:46
  But not uncommon. A coach, both high school and
• 1:26:51
  college, by the way, and middle school and club, they'll get on
• 1:26:55
  there and they'll ask a question to the body, you know, to people
• 1:26:57
  who are in that, in that subreddit, something a coaching
• 1:27:00
  esque, right? You know, how do I get a kid to
• 1:27:02
  three-step or how do I help transition a kid from a 12 LB to
• 1:27:05
  16 LB shop, but things like that.
• 1:27:07
  But there'll be a lot of questions that, you know, as a
• 1:27:10
  guy who you know, coached at a pretty high level for 10 years
• 1:27:13
  and now is, you know, involved with guys like you and you know,
• 1:27:16
  high level every event, sprints, jumps, hurdles, etcetera.
• 1:27:20
  You know, it's a little like, why would you ask that like
• 1:27:22
  that? It's common sense, right?
• 1:27:24
  Like the left foot goes in front of the right foot type of thing,
• 1:27:27
  right? But what it shows, first of all,
• 1:27:30
  I don't belittle those people because I'm like, well, at least
• 1:27:33
  they have the humility to ask, ask.
• 1:27:34
  There's plenty of people who don't know this stuff and don't
• 1:27:37
  ask. Those are the ones you got to
• 1:27:38
  have a little, you know, judgement to, but the ones at
• 1:27:41
  least they're asking are trying to get better.
• 1:27:44
  But my point is there, there are people who don't know these
• 1:27:48
  things. Who don't know these things?
• 1:27:49
  And a lot of times we get into this again, this, this 1% like,
• 1:27:53
  oh, how do I take this? You know, 1060 kid down to 1040.
• 1:27:56
  It's like, man, this guy's he's trying to coach 10 second 60M
• 1:28:00
  guys. He, he don't even know how to do
• 1:28:02
  block. He's even using blocks.
• 1:28:03
  He don't even know what the heck to do right.
• 1:28:05
  The basics are so important and I think having apps like this
• 1:28:08
  helps that it's a part of the puzzle.
• 1:28:10
  It's not the answer. There's a lot of different
• 1:28:13
  moving parts here, but it's an answer, a part of the solution
• 1:28:17
  to help that guy. And you know, from Alabama,
• 1:28:19
  rural Alabama who just has no idea.
• 1:28:22
  My high school coach had no idea, but it was pre Internet
• 1:28:25
  basically correct. No clue.
• 1:28:26
  But that person would have benefited.
• 1:28:28
  Like, all right, I got some sprinters.
• 1:28:29
  What's this app telling me to do?
• 1:28:30
  Oh, and I can just I can just film them and it'll it'll put
• 1:28:33
  things in motion for me and show me.
• 1:28:35
  That's so valuable and important.
• 1:28:38
  And that's, and that's what we were because we always something
• 1:28:41
  that when Matthew and I meet, we always like, we want to be able
• 1:28:45
  to provide value, you know, to someone who doesn't have access.
• 1:28:49
  And how do you, how can you do that with, you know, an app or
• 1:28:53
  at least get them somewhere, have an ID?
• 1:28:55
  OK, I'm, this is where I'm at. This is where.
• 1:28:58
  I I should? Be the recommendations and
• 1:29:01
  things of that nature. So anyway we're we're excited
• 1:29:03
  about that. So that's how him and I got
• 1:29:06
  together and. I love that.
• 1:29:07
  Well, he's a good dude and knowing that he's hooked up with
• 1:29:10
  another good dude is is really important.
• 1:29:12
  You said hopefully by January of 26th we'll be in the App Store.
• 1:29:15
  End of January is our timetable. End of January, end of.
• 1:29:19
  January is our timetable. So we've got the beta and we've
• 1:29:22
  got some beta testers testing it now.
• 1:29:25
  So we are we're we're gearing up for AI would say a, a launch.
• 1:29:29
  And so there's a lot of other. Movies, yeah, right, 100% yeah.
• 1:29:32
  OK, so when you're listening to this at the earliest you're
• 1:29:36
  listening to this is the end of December.
• 1:29:38
  But the thing I love about podcast it's it's Evergreen
• 1:29:41
  content. Meaning like our first episode,
• 1:29:43
  which was, you know, 6 plus years ago now still gets people
• 1:29:46
  listening to it, right? So you, it may be 20-30 right
• 1:29:48
  now and you're listening to it, but if you're listening to this
• 1:29:50
  in December or January or even February of 2026, if you're in
• 1:29:57
  February, go look to see if it's on the App Store, you know,
• 1:29:59
  check your phone. If you're in December or
• 1:30:01
  January, put on your calendar. You know, always give grace,
• 1:30:04
  right? So I'm going to say the middle
• 1:30:05
  of February, in February, put in your calendar to go check it out
• 1:30:08
  because I, I, you owe it to yourself to at least look at a
• 1:30:12
  tool to see if it fits into your program.
• 1:30:14
  It's not going to fit in everybody's program.
• 1:30:15
  What they're doing is not going to be for 100% people, and they
• 1:30:18
  know that, but it's gonna be for some people and you won't know
• 1:30:20
  if it's for you if you don't. Go experiment, have some
• 1:30:23
  curiosity and go check out the the app.
• 1:30:25
  What? What are you gonna name it?
• 1:30:26
  Remotion. Remotion.
• 1:30:28
  See. That's good that you remember
• 1:30:29
  it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:30:30
  yeah, yeah. I knew that was a test.
• 1:30:31
  Yeah, yeah. Because if you don't have a
• 1:30:33
  memorable name, it's you're in trouble.
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  It's spelled just like it sounds.
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  So RE and then motion. Correct.
• 1:30:39
  Yeah. I love that.
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  That's very cool. All right, go check that out.
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  I love that for you guys and I love that for the for the
• 1:30:45
  coaching body. OK.
• 1:30:46
  So today in 2025, are you coaching any high school or is
• 1:30:52
  this all in the club model at this point?
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  So in the spring it will be high school, you know, as I still do
• 1:30:59
  it, Unity Christian School and then.
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  Oh, you are. You're still there.
• 1:31:03
  I. Still do it, yeah.
• 1:31:04
  That's cool. I still do it in the.
• 1:31:06
  Spring for a few months for them just just because I, I love that
• 1:31:11
  school and they, they, they, they've served and given me so
• 1:31:15
  much. So in the spring is for high
• 1:31:17
  school and then outside of after the spring season, summer and
• 1:31:20
  fall, that's all. Club stuff.
• 1:31:22
  Cool. All right.
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  So, you know, in my role where I sit as a track coach advocate,
• 1:31:29
  kind of like I talked about with that conversation about
• 1:31:32
  responding to emails, you know, that we started on Twitter last
• 1:31:35
  night. You know, my role is to help
• 1:31:38
  people get out of your box. I'm not a coach anymore.
• 1:31:40
  I, you know, it's 20 year, 20 years over half your 1/2 of your
• 1:31:45
  life. I have not coached, but I did
• 1:31:49
  coach. You know, I coached a couple
• 1:31:50
  years high school, most of it was in college.
• 1:31:53
  I coached in the SECI, coached some guys who went on to the
• 1:31:55
  Olympics, SEC champions, etcetera, etcetera.
• 1:31:58
  So I coached at high level, but I was in a box just like you're
• 1:32:01
  in the box. I'm in a sales box for sure.
• 1:32:05
  Like I have to work hard to get outside of sales to make sure
• 1:32:07
  we're doing things right. But I'm not in the coaching box.
• 1:32:09
  But I, I talk and see and interact with you 24 hours a
• 1:32:13
  day. This is what I do, right?
• 1:32:15
  So I feel, I take it on the responsibility to start
• 1:32:18
  conversations that people aren't necessarily having publicly.
• 1:32:23
  They, they, they, they hold it in their heart or their mind and
• 1:32:26
  just have anger about it. And that's not good, right?
• 1:32:30
  I want to help continue to move the profession forward, right?
• 1:32:33
  And there's many aspects to our profession.
• 1:32:35
  There's high school coaches, there's college coaches, there's
• 1:32:38
  pro coaches, there's summer coaches, middle school club,
• 1:32:42
  etcetera. And across America.
• 1:32:45
  I haven't heard this too much in Georgia, but I just doubt that
• 1:32:47
  it's not happening in Georgia. In other states, you know, where
• 1:32:50
  I'm going, the tension between our club coaches and our high
• 1:32:56
  school coaches, there's many egos involved, and egos aren't
• 1:33:02
  necessarily bad Ego helps us to want to dress better, to get
• 1:33:07
  better education, to to be better and do better.
• 1:33:09
  Bad ego is bad when it becomes more about me, when it becomes,
• 1:33:15
  you know, stepping on other people so that I can get better,
• 1:33:18
  that that's bad ego. And that's what we're trying to
• 1:33:20
  abolish here. What has been your experience,
• 1:33:24
  the start on the high school side?
• 1:33:26
  What has been your experience with other high school 'cause
• 1:33:29
  you're coaching other high school's kids up to a point?
• 1:33:33
  Hopefully we'll see. What has been your experience as
• 1:33:36
  a club coach as it relates to relationships with other high
• 1:33:40
  school coaches? I love this question and in my
• 1:33:44
  experience, it's really been, it's been a good one because I,
• 1:33:51
  I think there has to be a level of humility that comes with
• 1:33:54
  this. And so as a high school coach
• 1:33:58
  and a club coach. I.
• 1:34:03
  Have humility going into like all right, this athlete is going
• 1:34:07
  to be with you know me for the summer and all these different
• 1:34:10
  things their high school coach that they have made may have a
• 1:34:15
  different philosophy and and sometimes and we've had it the
• 1:34:19
  athlete comes back and say, well, coaching coach does this,
• 1:34:23
  but I know that's not right you know according to.
• 1:34:27
  You. So what should I?
• 1:34:29
  Do right? How I respond to that is.
• 1:34:35
  Look. He or she is your coach, all
• 1:34:38
  right, and try to give them wisdom on how to handle that
• 1:34:43
  because I don't I don't want any athlete that come sees me saying
• 1:34:47
  I'm bad mouthing another coach right.
• 1:34:50
  At the end of the day, we're we're, we're coaching these
• 1:34:53
  athletes and we want to help them improve at least.
• 1:34:55
  At least that should be the goal.
• 1:34:57
  Right. Not to not to tower my.
• 1:35:00
  Bro, do you know how many times I hear a coach say, and I, every
• 1:35:03
  coach would agree with this? Hey, do you do it for the kids?
• 1:35:05
  Oh yeah, I do it for the kids, right.
• 1:35:06
  We're, we're, we're so humble with the even with money, we go,
• 1:35:11
  oh, I don't do it for the money. I do it for the kids.
• 1:35:13
  And I, and I love that attitude. But first of all, and that
• 1:35:16
  tangent, you should be doing it for the money.
• 1:35:17
  You have a mortgage payment and you know, passions and
• 1:35:20
  charities, etcetera, you should be getting paid more.
• 1:35:22
  Don't do that. But we'll say we're doing it for
• 1:35:24
  the kids and then we'll do an action that is absolutely not
• 1:35:28
  for the kids. I'm like, wait a minute, I
• 1:35:30
  thought we were doing this for the kids here.
• 1:35:32
  Exactly. And so and so my approach to
• 1:35:35
  that is I say, look, listen, you're, you're doing well, keep
• 1:35:39
  trusting the process and all these different things and so.
• 1:35:43
  I've. I felt like I built a really
• 1:35:45
  good relationship with the local coaches here in town that I
• 1:35:48
  have. And funny enough, like one of
• 1:35:52
  the the coaches, he knows that I trained them and he has even
• 1:35:56
  moved like so we'll go to the Clemson, the high school Clemson
• 1:36:00
  meet at the January 12th and. He said look.
• 1:36:05
  I know you have majority of front of my track and field kids
• 1:36:08
  that are coming to see you, but we're going to start practice
• 1:36:11
  when they come back. Right.
• 1:36:14
  And I truly believe the only reason he would say is because
• 1:36:17
  how I've in our relationship and how I've treated him.
• 1:36:21
  I'm not bad mouthing him. I'm not just saying, oh, I'm
• 1:36:25
  doing it for the kids, but I'm, you know, chucking at him.
• 1:36:27
  That's that's not and so. I think it.
• 1:36:31
  OK, let me let me kick. I just think of I think of three
• 1:36:33
  scenarios, then I feel like, you know, we have enough rapport and
• 1:36:38
  trust that you're going to be able to give me some honest
• 1:36:40
  answers there because that's great.
• 1:36:41
  I think what you're saying is is perfect spot on very PC.
• 1:36:46
  That's great. It's great.
• 1:36:47
  Now let's talk about real worlds.
• 1:36:49
  Let's think about a couple examples here.
• 1:36:50
  And how would how would you either how would you react to it
• 1:36:54
  or maybe how have you reacted? Because these are these are very
• 1:36:56
  plausible. You know how I know they're
• 1:36:57
  possible. These are conversations I'm
• 1:36:59
  having every day. OK, athlete comes to you and
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  says, Hey coach, my high school coach, we're talking about 100
• 1:37:07
  meter sprinter here. My high school coach is having
• 1:37:10
  us run 400 repeats every day. And you know, coach, I've been
• 1:37:15
  with you for a while. I know that doesn't seem right.
• 1:37:17
  You certainly don't. Well, I hope you don't Anyway, I
• 1:37:22
  want to just not train with my high school coach and just train
• 1:37:25
  with you. But I still want to compete for
• 1:37:27
  my high school because that's my boys, that's my girls, etcetera.
• 1:37:29
  What? What coach?
• 1:37:30
  What do I do? That's your coach.
• 1:37:35
  Like I I mean, if especially in the spring season, like I mean,
• 1:37:39
  I'm I'm already coaching high school kids and they come I say,
• 1:37:42
  hey, look, I mean, I mean, that's in the house in the
• 1:37:48
  spring season. I mean, there's not much that I
• 1:37:50
  can really do for you. You know, that's just the honest
• 1:37:53
  truth. You know I get you are.
• 1:37:56
  You calling high school coach? Am I calling high school?
• 1:37:59
  Coach. Yeah.
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  Hey, coach, just want to talk to you.
• 1:38:01
  Cindy tells me you're doing front of me, repeats.
• 1:38:03
  And I want to tell you you're wrong, OK?
• 1:38:06
  No, I don't, because it's not my place.
• 1:38:09
  As. I think that's, at least for me,
• 1:38:13
  it's like he or she is the coach and they have this athlete for a
• 1:38:18
  period of time. And so how do I, how do I teach
• 1:38:22
  athletes to understand that there is a, I want to say it,
• 1:38:27
  not a chain of command, but that just seems the best word that I
• 1:38:30
  can gather is that I'm not calling coach and say, hey,
• 1:38:34
  look, oh Sydney, man, she doesn't need those 400.
• 1:38:38
  She needs this because this is this is pre comp period.
• 1:38:41
  This is period. You know this is probably she
• 1:38:44
  should do 8 days before so you can peak her.
• 1:38:47
  That's that conversation. I'm not calling because.
• 1:38:50
  He. He.
• 1:38:51
  He or she is the coach and I have to respect that.
• 1:38:54
  I think there's a lot of humility that must have to
• 1:38:56
  happen and frankly, in the track and field space, as you know,
• 1:39:01
  it's sometimes just doesn't they people got opinions and things
• 1:39:04
  of that nature. That's right.
• 1:39:05
  Remember, they coach typically how they were coached.
• 1:39:08
  That's probably how they were coached.
• 1:39:09
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:39:10
  And that's not unsafe, right? You know, it's not, it's not
• 1:39:13
  optimal for training, but, you know, do in front of me repeats.
• 1:39:16
  You're going to live. You're going to feel.
• 1:39:18
  Like. You're going to live.
• 1:39:19
  You'll live OK. These kids are, they're, they're
• 1:39:22
  not, I don't want to say fragile, but they, they're,
• 1:39:25
  they're, they can be resilient. They're resilient, absolutely.
• 1:39:27
  So, OK, so Sydney, I like this must be an athlete or a former
• 1:39:31
  athlete because you used Sydney as the name.
• 1:39:32
  Sydney comes to you and says, hey, you know, coach, our new
• 1:39:37
  track coach is having us do. I'm trying to think of something
• 1:39:40
  unsafe. Depth jumps every day at 42
• 1:39:43
  inches after we lifted by the way, and after we did quarter
• 1:39:48
  repeats. I'm trying to think of something
• 1:39:50
  unsafe right that that's what I'm trying to get to so they
• 1:39:52
  they describe to you, hey, my high school coach is doing this
• 1:39:55
  this and I'm just trashed. I can barely run.
• 1:39:59
  I just want to quit and just come to you.
• 1:40:02
  What do you do if she? Is I would say, well, have you
• 1:40:07
  talked to like, what are the other athletes saying?
• 1:40:09
  Where other coaches, what other coaches are there?
• 1:40:12
  You know, if you're trashed or you're hurting, have you talked
• 1:40:14
  to the trainers, whether the train, what are the trainers
• 1:40:16
  saying? You start asking more.
• 1:40:18
  I start asking more questions, you know, because, you know,
• 1:40:22
  maybe that's not the same for all the different athletes.
• 1:40:25
  You know, she says they did this, they did this.
• 1:40:27
  Well, what did the other 30 athletes, you know, what are
• 1:40:29
  they saying? Or is it just you?
• 1:40:31
  So I tend to ask more questions because as I continue to say it,
• 1:40:35
  like when we're in that that period of when I don't have the
• 1:40:39
  athlete and they want to complain, like how do I, you
• 1:40:42
  know, well, what are the other athletes saying?
• 1:40:44
  You're trying to balance, I'm hearing you say I'm trying to
• 1:40:46
  balance what what is unsafe versus what is you know you are
• 1:40:50
  dealing with 1418 year old kids, correct?
• 1:40:52
  Be real here. Are they singling you out or is
• 1:40:55
  this what they're doing with everybody?
• 1:40:57
  And how is it really 40 twos and is it really?
• 1:40:59
  Every day? Is it really every day OK?
• 1:41:01
  I love that. And so.
• 1:41:03
  You asked. I think you ask more questions
• 1:41:06
  like when you have, when I have an athlete that I've been
• 1:41:08
  working with for nine months and they have this, OK, well, well,
• 1:41:11
  whatever. What is everyone else saying?
• 1:41:12
  What's the trainer saying? Because I'm sure if you're
• 1:41:14
  feeling bad, have you seen the trainer?
• 1:41:16
  What does other coaches saying? You try to use wisdom on how you
• 1:41:19
  piece the information together to really see.
• 1:41:22
  OK, you ready for this one? I am.
• 1:41:26
  All those situations are real life.
• 1:41:27
  And this third one as well. OK, our mythical athlete Sydney,
• 1:41:32
  when she's with you, you see her Sprint prowess and that she's a
• 1:41:38
  like AI won't say world class because that's, you know, 1070,
• 1:41:42
  you know, Melissa Jefferson world.
• 1:41:44
  But but she's she's high level Division One, like 11, flattish.
• 1:41:49
  You can tell from her testing and things like that.
• 1:41:52
  The high school coach sees her more as a 400m runner and she's
• 1:41:57
  very good. The 400 by the way, like the the
• 1:41:59
  no, I mean, you know, if someone's running 11 flat, you
• 1:42:01
  probably running 5253, you know, or whatever the equipment was.
• 1:42:05
  And so doesn't runs on the relays and stuff, you know, 4 by
• 1:42:08
  ones, but doesn't have her do the one and two.
• 1:42:11
  She's 404 by 4, four by one, and maybe she chomps or something
• 1:42:14
  like that. And you think that's possibly
• 1:42:20
  hurting her recruiting And not not, not unsafe.
• 1:42:24
  No one's doing anything unsafe here.
• 1:42:26
  But you, you both have a different philosophy of where
• 1:42:28
  this athlete should focus on. You're probably both right, by
• 1:42:30
  the way, because he's a stud, right?
• 1:42:33
  But you really think like, man, hey, this this person actually,
• 1:42:36
  this could be an NCAA Division one national champ, which means
• 1:42:39
  she has a chance of going pro. You know, how do you handle that
• 1:42:42
  situation? I would answer very simple.
• 1:42:46
  A college coach can back into the numbers.
• 1:42:49
  If she's running to 400 and she's running 52, they can do
• 1:42:52
  the math of what her 200 is the 100.
• 1:42:54
  So it actually wouldn't be doing her.
• 1:42:56
  I I wouldn't say she should be doing that.
• 1:42:59
  Well, the fast is fast. If she can run to 452, I know
• 1:43:03
  what she can do in the 200. I know what she's going to do in
• 1:43:05
  the 100. You're not actually holding back
• 1:43:08
  her recruiting because it's not like someone's going to go O52O.
• 1:43:11
  Man if she was letting flat I'd recruit her.
• 1:43:12
  It's like bro if she's 52. Bro any any any legit college
• 1:43:17
  track and field coach will look at that and say.
• 1:43:20
  Oh. She's strong, she can before
• 1:43:23
  she's doing that. This is not hurting her.
• 1:43:26
  So that's that's. I.
• 1:43:27
  Think that's what I think. High school.
• 1:43:31
  Coach. Club coach.
• 1:43:32
  Like when I I see a lot of high school kids, you I'm thinking
• 1:43:35
  like a college coach I got in that scenario.
• 1:43:38
  That's not going to, that's not going to hurt.
• 1:43:40
  That's actually going to make her more valuable.
• 1:43:44
  Oh, she can run the open 4, The 2. 1/4 by.
• 1:43:47
  Fours. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:43:50
  About those things, right? Right, right, right.
• 1:43:52
  Yeah, that's a good point. So I love that.
• 1:43:54
  That's how I will respond to that.
• 1:43:56
  Don't keep running it. You know, I wish there were some
• 1:44:01
  high school coaches that had your attitude.
• 1:44:03
  I wish there were other club coaches that had your attitude
• 1:44:06
  at least some point. Like you always tell people,
• 1:44:07
  it's like I don't do any background checks.
• 1:44:11
  I don't know, Bradley right now might be giving us a load of it.
• 1:44:14
  I don't know. Who knows, though, are the
• 1:44:16
  people that are around him right?
• 1:44:18
  So, but but here's the other thing.
• 1:44:20
  This is what's really interesting about the podcast
• 1:44:22
  because it's reach is if someone's BS ING first of all,
• 1:44:27
  no one's no one's forced to be here.
• 1:44:29
  No right. So he's putting himself out
• 1:44:31
  there and either he's telling truth or not telling truth.
• 1:44:34
  It will come to light because of social media.
• 1:44:35
  Someone's going to come on there and be like, whoa, this Bradley,
• 1:44:38
  do let me tell you what he really did, blah, blah, blah,
• 1:44:40
  blah, blah, blah, blah. Or because you're more
• 1:44:43
  incentivized to tell the truth, he's telling the truth.
• 1:44:45
  So I really, I really do appreciate that.
• 1:44:48
  Bradley, what you know, we got to start wrapping up here in a
• 1:44:51
  second. What's the, you know, you're so
• 1:44:53
  young. Do you do you think you're old?
• 1:44:55
  I wonder if like when I was young what I mean 1000.
• 1:45:00
  Keep going, Mike Thousand. Just keep fall.
• 1:45:02
  Just go ahead and fall off the Cliff.
• 1:45:03
  Yeah, yeah, you know exactly. Where I'm at, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:06
  I have 1000 questions all in one question.
• 1:45:07
  Yeah. So when I was younger, I
• 1:45:09
  remember as a 1718 year old kid thinking like 30 year olds,
• 1:45:11
  like, dude, you're 1 foot in the grave.
• 1:45:13
  And now I'm, you know, a half a year away from being 50 and I'm
• 1:45:16
  like, people feel pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:19
  Clap that I made it this long. Yeah.
• 1:45:20
  That's that's all. There's no accomplishment.
• 1:45:22
  I didn't have a heart attack yet.
• 1:45:24
  But but, but I wonder, you know, you're but now I look as a 50
• 1:45:26
  year old, I see a 34 year old. I'm like, Oh my God, you're so
• 1:45:28
  young. Like I was four years into my
• 1:45:30
  career, Gil, at this point, you know, that's a pup.
• 1:45:33
  You know, 16 more years have gone by.
• 1:45:36
  What's the not, what's the end game?
• 1:45:39
  Because I don't think it's fair, especially for a 34 year old,
• 1:45:41
  because you don't know what are you gearing towards?
• 1:45:45
  Are you wanting to, do you see yourself going into college
• 1:45:49
  coaching? Do you want to take this club
• 1:45:51
  Sprint free training model and blow it up?
• 1:45:55
  Do you want to coach nothing but high schoolers?
• 1:45:59
  Do you want to go back and become an athletic
• 1:46:01
  administrator? You know what what?
• 1:46:03
  What are you thinking as you continue to develop in your
• 1:46:05
  career? Oh man, I love, I love this
• 1:46:08
  question. I think.
• 1:46:12
  More in game I I would consider in games I, I there's a couple
• 1:46:16
  things I want to do. I want to keep coaching.
• 1:46:18
  I really like high school athletes.
• 1:46:20
  I think that's those are those formative years where we can
• 1:46:24
  shine lighting and give them encouragement and hope and and
• 1:46:28
  track and field teachers so much about life as we as we know.
• 1:46:32
  I I. Truly would love to continue to
• 1:46:35
  coach, do that full time, but also blow up this remotion
• 1:46:39
  application to be honest and hopefully you know, we exit and
• 1:46:45
  I can just coach and then go into ministry full time.
• 1:46:47
  That's the end game. Is that right?
• 1:46:50
  That's the end game. So when you ask me that
• 1:46:51
  question, you know, I share with my wife like, you know, like I
• 1:46:55
  really feel like the Lord has called me to coach and do
• 1:46:58
  remotion and he's. Like.
• 1:47:02
  Lord willing, we blow this up, it exits and all these different
• 1:47:05
  things that we as entrepreneurs expired, you know, and hope and
• 1:47:09
  dream to do. I said I.
• 1:47:10
  Want to go in and I want to go into ministry and that's the end
• 1:47:15
  game if I can you know the Lord is giving me these things and he
• 1:47:19
  blesses it and moves it then I will coach high school kids and
• 1:47:22
  I will be in ministry and that is the end game for me Mike
• 1:47:26
  that's cool is to serve and. And that's what track and field
• 1:47:30
  has been for me, yeah. And so that's the end game I.
• 1:47:35
  Love it. That's the beginning game.
• 1:47:37
  I love that. Yeah.
• 1:47:38
  All right, here's my challenges to you.
• 1:47:39
  I already gave you one. You already gave me one, Coach
• 1:47:42
  Foster. I got to.
• 1:47:42
  Reach coach. Yeah, find him and just say
• 1:47:45
  thank you. And and again, you know, so many
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  blessings have gone your way and you've therefore have become a
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  blessing to a lot of other people.
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  You know, we stand as as people in general, but as track
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  coaches, we stand on the shoulders of giants.
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  You know, the the high school coach that saw something and you
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  said you should run track man. Like that started something that
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  would seem like a very innocuous thing.
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  You're meeting like like a high school kid playing track that's
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  great. Only 7% actually go on to NCAA
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  track. So it's not like they thought
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  that could be the possibility. Like you're fast.
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  Go over there and try that and look what that has done right.
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  So you stand on that persons shoulder.
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  You stand on coach burden, coach blacks shoulder of what they
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  taught you coach and you stand on a Stew and Andreas and Dan
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  Path. They taught you a lot of things
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  right. And so for your for that Gardner
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  web coach, it's it's it's good for him to see because sometimes
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  we forget about that and we're in our in our immediate bubble
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  what's going on right now and we forget, Oh man, I'm impacting
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  kids. That coach needs to know that he
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  is impacting kids, even though he's not coaching them.
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  It's easier. He's not easy, easier to see the
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  kids that I right in front of me, how I impact them.
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  But kids that I recruited and how I treated them and what
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  suggestions I gave them, how I impacted them is much, much
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  harder. And he needs to see that his
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  impact, his positive impact on young people is much, much
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  larger. So that was 1-2.
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  I want to encourage you specifically for the remotion
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  app, because I know now I know you and I know Matt Davis very
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  pretty well as well. Love, love what you're doing.
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  I want to bless that is think about doing some of these Gill
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  1918 project podcast. I think it'd be interesting
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  because you knew more than one. You know, I need there's like
• 1:49:17
  200 and something days outside of the 52, you know, connections
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  podcast, right? So I need as much content as
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  possible. So you can do multiple it.
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  It might be interesting to see, you know, pre launch, like, hey,
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  here, here's something that's coming online by say February,
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  end of January. Here's what we're working on.
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  Here's why. You know, that's kind of a a
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  podcast again, Ted talks of track and field, right?
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  And then once you launch, of course, you know, hey, you know,
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  there could be something about launching.
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  How do you use it? What are best practices?
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  I would also encourage you to, you know, be, even though you
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  don't necessarily have the app today or you know, tomorrow,
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  there's track clinics, there's a great 1, you know, we talked
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  about earlier about the the one in Georgia, they do a great job
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  there. There's talks that you can give
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  around how to use technology in your Sprint training.
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  You know, here's some things that we're thinking about in the
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  remotion app that would be able to help a high school coach or a
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  college coach, etcetera, etcetera.
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  And then kind of in a different spin, you're, I see just a lot
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  of unification with you, you know, bringing people together
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  and, and in positive manners. Think about in your area, Rome
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  and its surrounding area of doing some, some kind of clinic,
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  not, not camps. You may also do camps like with
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  kids and stuff, but like some kind of even if you get to
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  people, there's been some amazing relationships built in
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  this profession for people who just got people together at
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  their house, like hey, coach, coach XY and Z come over, bring
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  lunch or we'll order in and let's just talk sprinting for
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  for a few hours. One of one of my favorite
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  people. Do you know if you're on social?
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  So maybe you know, Mike J up in Iowa is that name.
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  Mike J is a, there's a, he's not a track coach.
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  I don't even know if he's been a track coach, but he's he's the
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  voice of Iowa track and field. So he, he announces the Drake
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  Relays. He's also announced the NCAA
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  championship, stuff like that. But he's a big, he's a big Iowa
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  track guy, the Trek guy Foundation.
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  He gives shoes to to kids who need it, things like that.
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  But he does in the fall, he he goes, he organizes these around
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  cross country coaches. They meet in the driveway.
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  They have these driveway summits, if you will.
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  They all just get in their driveway.
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  They all bring their chairs and they talk about how do you have
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  train an 800m runner who's running cross country this year?
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  How do you train girls the first time?
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  They're like very grass roots. I I see that new in that area
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  with you, maybe more of your Forte, maybe don't do cross
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  country, but you know, doing Sprint just, you know, just a
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  very informal that sometimes we think we have to do these
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  grandiose things. In reality, you can go to
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  someone's driveway with chairs and a couple of drinks and
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  really create fellowship and correct and knowledge settings.
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  So I challenge you on that Bradley.
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  Other than that, man, we got to go.
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  This is the end of it. You're awesome.
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  Thank you so much. I love, love, love your journey.
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  And what's cool to me is, you know, using like a 400 meter
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  analogy, you're barely in the blocks.
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  I know it's a 30 something year old man.
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  You could think like, I'm getting close to the end.
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  You know, I passed the 200m mark.
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  Mike, bro, you're not even at the 100m mark.
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  You have so many more years to coach, so many more years to
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  influence other people in a positive manner, young people
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  and coaches. This is where I see, you know,
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  that it's easy to talk about the easier to see the the athlete
• 1:52:40
  side of it, But I think you could be a bigger influencer on
• 1:52:44
  coaches, other men and women who choose this profession and then
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  you'll that'll give you a bigger platform.
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  You'll affect way more kids that way than just the kids that you
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  coach, and that's going to be a lot in its own.
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  So just really pumped to be on the sidelines and watch it
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  happen. Man.
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  It's it's really exciting for me and I think it's going to be
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  something very promising for you, your wife, your family.
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  It's you stand on the giants of your mom and dad too, by the
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  way. But I think that, you know, with
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  great examples you have, you're going to continue and build a
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  great examples for others. Yeah, Mike, I received that.
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  Thank you, brother. I appreciate it.
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  Thank you. Absolutely.
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  Absolutely, guys, thank you so much for being here.
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  Short outro. Love you guys to death.
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  Make sure you join us next week. If you're interested in doing a
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  Guild 1918 project, hit me up on Twitter, DM, text, all that
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  stuffs in the show notes below and we'll see you next week.
• 1:53:30
  We'll do it all over again. All right.
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  Thanks guys. If it goes to appreciate the
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  coach, the ones that point people most every season needs a
• 1:53:41
  voice of reason speaking the growth you got to prep before
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  you carry the load ice coffee to the soul.
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  For those of us who stand to go proper handoff to stay in the
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  zone which you packing for the road.
• 1:53:51
  There's more than one way to go. Taking notes that's paying
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  you're told it ain't practice If your purpose ain't clear, it
• 1:53:57
  can't happen until you listen. With both is can't mentor
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  without a mentor of his of experience.
• 1:54:02
  You can reinvent those years every plan's got to stand and
• 1:54:05
  deliver up to and the price sacrifice can you give up you.
• 1:54:09
  It's a choice and a fight not a win or lose.
• 1:54:11
  It's not a ploy boy device. Y'all can make more moves.
• 1:54:13
  It's not about how to it's all about why you don't know till
• 1:54:17
  you know who you are inside 6,000,000 waste of time, choose
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  none so we all cross the finish line.
• 1:54:22
  The work ain't done so we learn from the experts but y'all got
• 1:54:25
  to put in the leg work. Your athletics is the network.
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  It's all about connections put together for the profession.
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  To where?