Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Member for Braitling Josh Burgoyne tells Katie the CLP will be focussing on crime rates and Covid when Parliament sits this week
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And we do know that Parliament resumes in the Northern
- 0:02Speaker 1: Territory today for the first time for twenty twenty two.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Joining me on the line is the Opposition whip, the
- 0:09Speaker 1: Member for Braitling and also the Opposition spokesperson for Territory Families.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Josh Burgoyne.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Now, Josh, I know it's not your portfolio.
- 0:19Speaker 1: It is a statement which has been sent out by
- 0:21Speaker 1: the Shadow Minister for Health, Bill Yan. But he reckons
- 0:25Speaker 1: the Labor gun gover. Let me start back again. He
- 0:28Speaker 1: reckons the Gunner government has serious questions to answer over
- 0:33Speaker 1: white spending one hundred and thirty million dollars, which is
- 0:36Speaker 1: more than ten percent of the Northern Territory's hospital budget
- 0:39Speaker 1: on rapid antigen tests. I'm not sure if you just
- 0:42Speaker 1: heard the Health Minister on the show, but she reckons
- 0:45Speaker 1: you guys couldn't organize things when it comes to COVID.
- 0:49Speaker 2: I mean, does that really cut the mustard.
- 0:52Speaker 3: It doesn't cut the musty, Katie. And you hit the
- 0:54Speaker 3: nail on the head before when you said put the
- 0:56Speaker 3: money into hospitals. That's where it's needed. Me to be
- 0:58Speaker 3: supporting our nurses and ours spending one hundred and thirty
- 1:01Speaker 3: million dollars on rat test that could be superseded in
- 1:04Speaker 3: a couple of months. You know, we just have no
- 1:06Speaker 3: idea what's going to unfold into the future. And let's
- 1:08Speaker 3: invest that money where it's needed, into the hospitals. This
- 1:11Speaker 3: is ten percent of the hospital budget. I'm sure if
- 1:13Speaker 3: you went and spoke to some of the people in
- 1:16Speaker 3: health they'd so they'd love a one hundred and thirty
- 1:18Speaker 3: million dollars spend in the hospitals to help them out.
- 1:21Speaker 2: It seems like an awful lot of money.
- 1:23Speaker 1: And obviously the minister's saying that you know that they
- 1:27Speaker 1: put that tender out for the maximum amount, it doesn't
- 1:30Speaker 1: mean that that's going to be the amount that gets
- 1:32Speaker 1: spent on these rat tests. But you know, like I get,
- 1:35Speaker 1: we've got to order things in advance, but it just
- 1:37Speaker 1: seems quite astonishing to me.
- 1:40Speaker 3: It certainly is. It is astonishing Cadia one hundred and
- 1:43Speaker 3: thirty million dollars and as we said before, this money
- 1:45Speaker 3: should be put into hospitals, that's where it's needed. And
- 1:48Speaker 3: I think they're goun the government really, they've they've bungled
- 1:51Speaker 3: the remote vaccine roll out in a lot of ways.
- 1:53Speaker 3: We've been talking about that a lot. We need to
- 1:56Speaker 3: really look after those most vulnerable in our remote communities.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Spending one hundred and thirty million dollars on rats and
- 2:02Speaker 3: god knows you know exactly how much of that they're
- 2:05Speaker 3: going to spend or if they're going to spend more. So, yeah,
- 2:06Speaker 3: it really is put the money where it's needed, put
- 2:09Speaker 3: it into the hospital. Yeah.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Look, I'll be very honest about it. When that pressure
- 2:13Speaker 1: release came out from you guys, I thought, I don't
- 2:15Speaker 1: know if I actually believe this, So I went on
- 2:17Speaker 1: the tender's website myself and found it, and yeah, I
- 2:22Speaker 1: was utterly surprised to see that it was that it
- 2:25Speaker 1: was on there and for that amount of money.
- 2:28Speaker 2: So no doubt there's going to.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Be some serious questions about this throughout the day and
- 2:32Speaker 1: why we're in a situation where there is that much
- 2:35Speaker 1: money being spent on these rat tests when we don't
- 2:38Speaker 1: know really how the next twelve months is going to
- 2:40Speaker 1: pan out.
- 2:42Speaker 3: That's exactly right, And we were in the same boat.
- 2:45Speaker 3: We thought this was the type one when we first
- 2:47Speaker 3: saw it, but after speaking with the help minister before
- 2:49Speaker 3: you you've put the question to us, she's confirmed it.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Up to one hundred and thirty million dollars it's going
- 2:53Speaker 3: to have spent. It'll be really interesting to see exactly
- 2:55Speaker 3: how much one hundred and thirty million they do spend.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Gosh.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Obviously, we know that Parliament resumes today. Before I get
- 3:03Speaker 1: to that, though, In news which is emerging this morning,
- 3:07Speaker 1: the Anti Independent is reporting that the president of Territory
- 3:12Speaker 1: Labour's youth wing has resigned from his job in federal
- 3:15Speaker 1: MP Luke Gosling's office after a social media video surfaced
- 3:19Speaker 1: showing him allegedly snorting a white substance. Now, we have
- 3:24Speaker 1: had confirmation from Luke Gosling's office, from a spokesperson in
- 3:27Speaker 1: that office, that he has resigned.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Josh, what's your reaction? Have you seen this video?
- 3:35Speaker 3: Now? I actually went online this morning, Kadiu and viewed
- 3:38Speaker 3: at what this points to is a cocaine culture within
- 3:41Speaker 3: the Labor Party. It started with fifth floor staffers losing
- 3:43Speaker 3: their jobs over the alleged cocaine sex scandal, and now
- 3:47Speaker 3: we have more alleged behavior within the Labor Party that
- 3:50Speaker 3: points to a toxic culture that's occurring there. And really
- 3:54Speaker 3: we need a stronger response from the Health ministota. But no,
- 3:57Speaker 3: that's happening in someone else's office.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I I teem to agree with you. I think it's
- 4:03Speaker 1: quite unbelievable that there's a situation where this person has obviously,
- 4:07Speaker 1: you know where there's a video of this person allegedly
- 4:11Speaker 1: with a white substance. The other part of me goes, well,
- 4:14Speaker 1: it was shot allegedly before he started work within Luke
- 4:19Speaker 1: Gosling's office. Is this just a young person who's behaving
- 4:23Speaker 1: like a goose?
- 4:25Speaker 3: Oh? Look, this is a taxpayer position. There's a reason
- 4:29Speaker 3: why you step down from that role. I mean, this
- 4:31Speaker 3: points to a culture within the labor party. But this
- 4:34Speaker 3: sort of behavior is okay. It is not okay. As
- 4:38Speaker 3: the healthy mister point out that this is a legal
- 4:40Speaker 3: behavior and that cocaine culture within the labor party, really
- 4:44Speaker 3: we see glimpses of it exactly how much of this
- 4:47Speaker 3: is going in within the Labor party. And really that's
- 4:50Speaker 3: what this points to a bigger issue, a toxic culture
- 4:53Speaker 3: within the Labor party, the cocaine, this sort of you know,
- 4:57Speaker 3: it's just not all right for a taxpayer pundered role,
- 5:01Speaker 3: a young person using legal substances. And now as a
- 5:05Speaker 3: result of this video coming out, they've stepped away or
- 5:08Speaker 3: lost their job.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Josh, I've no doubt this will be something that the
- 5:12Speaker 1: opposition's going to be asking about in Parliament today, certainly be.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Putting questions Togethernment about how much they knew in regards
- 5:19Speaker 3: to this. It's simply not good enough that they can
- 5:22Speaker 3: continue to say the Chief Minister ordered a report into
- 5:25Speaker 3: his own office over things that were happening up on
- 5:28Speaker 3: the fifth floor, and suppose we put that report in
- 5:30Speaker 3: a bin. Well, I think it's about time he pulled
- 5:32Speaker 3: that report out of the bin, actually looked at the
- 5:34Speaker 3: recommendations and acted on it, because I'm sure that within
- 5:37Speaker 3: that report it would point to this sort of toxic
- 5:40Speaker 3: culture that's obviously rough within the Labor Party.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Now, Josh, the Territory Labor government say that today in
- 5:47Speaker 1: Parliament they're going to be building on their proud track
- 5:50Speaker 1: record of managing COVID and keeping the economy strong. With
- 5:54Speaker 1: the first parliamentary sittings of the year set to begin,
- 5:57Speaker 1: what's the Coop going to be focusing on.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Yes, certainly, Look, Katie, we will be focusing on what
- 6:03Speaker 3: territories care about. Most. Crime is still a huge issue
- 6:07Speaker 3: right across the Northern Territory. That is something that across
- 6:10Speaker 3: these this week of settings we will be touching on.
- 6:13Speaker 3: We will be making sure that the rights of victims
- 6:16Speaker 3: is put above the rights of offenders. It's so important
- 6:19Speaker 3: in all of this. Too often I am getting people
- 6:21Speaker 3: emailing into my office. If they're thirty gidea residents of
- 6:25Speaker 3: the Northern Territory, they've never been affected by crime, but
- 6:28Speaker 3: in the last period they have and these people write
- 6:31Speaker 3: to me and they want to make sure that their
- 6:33Speaker 3: experiences are put forward in Parliament so that the government
- 6:36Speaker 3: understands exactly how this is affecting people right across the
- 6:39Speaker 3: Northern Territory.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a really tough you know, like it's
- 6:42Speaker 1: actually been a tough few years for the people of
- 6:44Speaker 1: Alice Springs and it does seem to have really reached
- 6:48Speaker 1: this high point for all the wrong reasons over the
- 6:51Speaker 1: last couple of months. Josh, I know that, as you've
- 6:54Speaker 1: pointed out, it's not just in your electorate, but it
- 6:57Speaker 1: is across the board. The Chief Minister I had reportedly
- 7:01Speaker 1: reconfirmed earlier in the week his commitment to raising the
- 7:04Speaker 1: age of criminal responsibility. I asked him about this on
- 7:07Speaker 1: the show yesterday. He said that, yes, they are going
- 7:11Speaker 1: to raise the age of criminal responsibility, but they're not
- 7:13Speaker 1: going to do that until there are other programs and
- 7:17Speaker 1: other things in place. Do you think that age of
- 7:20Speaker 1: criminal responsibility should be raised.
- 7:23Speaker 3: It shouldn't be, Katie. You know, the CLP have been
- 7:25Speaker 3: very strong on this. What we need to see is
- 7:28Speaker 3: that when a young person ends up on the wrong
- 7:31Speaker 3: side of the law, the police are able to intervene
- 7:33Speaker 3: in that young person's life, and they are able there's
- 7:36Speaker 3: a circuit breaker brought in and more programs. I agree
- 7:40Speaker 3: with that, but what this will mean if they raise
- 7:42Speaker 3: the criminal age of responsibility is it will mean more
- 7:44Speaker 3: catch and release. It will mean more young people will
- 7:47Speaker 3: get out when they've done, in some instances, heinous crimes.
- 7:51Speaker 3: What we want to see is engaging with these young people,
- 7:55Speaker 3: making sure that and in a lot of cases, if
- 7:58Speaker 3: that young person's know what they were doing was wrong,
- 8:01Speaker 3: they should not have been out in the street late
- 8:03Speaker 3: at night offending. So at the end of the day,
- 8:06Speaker 3: raising the criminal age of responsibility might make some people
- 8:09Speaker 3: feel a bit good on the inside, but it won't
- 8:11Speaker 3: actually deal with any of the issues that we face
- 8:13Speaker 3: here in the Northern Territory.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Well Josh Burgoyne, the Shadow Minister for Territory Families, also
- 8:18Speaker 1: the Opposition whip. We always appreciate your time, mate, Thanks
- 8:21Speaker 1: very much for having a chat this morning.