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RHOP Reunion with Jassi + ANTM Doc Drama & More · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from The Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from The
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: One thing you all have been checking out that has
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  Speaker 2: been the talk of the universe for a week has
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  Speaker 2: been The America's Next Top Model Netflix documentary. This three
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  Speaker 2: episode documentary broke Twitter. I want to say, maybe today
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  Speaker 2: is the first day it died down and it was
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  Speaker 2: up a week.
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  Speaker 3: Ago today, So Dustin Claudium Blue.
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  Speaker 2: In this recap, as you all know, they did a
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  Speaker 2: deep dive into Top Model, talked about the industry, exposed
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  Speaker 2: some behind the scenes secrets. They got Tyred Banks and
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  Speaker 2: sit in the chair, which is so like iconic to
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  Speaker 2: get the creator of the show. But a lot of
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  Speaker 2: accusations were flown around. Some of the biggest highlights included Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Jay suffered a stroke and at the time of filming.
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  Speaker 3: This happened a year ago when they filmed it.
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  Speaker 2: A year ago, when they were filming it, he was
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  Speaker 2: unable to walk.
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  Speaker 3: A year later. As of today, he's now able to walk.
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  Speaker 3: But he did yes, God is good all the time.
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  Speaker 2: They did start a go fund me account guys, because
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  Speaker 2: he needs twenty four summing care and the go fund
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  Speaker 2: me request is one hundred thousand dollars. He mentioned in
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  Speaker 2: that documentary that Tyra Banks never visited him in the
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  Speaker 2: hospital and that the only thing he received was a
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  Speaker 2: text message, but she never mentioned seeing him. In the
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  Speaker 2: same documentary, Mister j Who is the Ultimate Pretty Boy
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  Speaker 2: for Life, he mentioned.
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  Speaker 3: That when he decided to leave the show, he.
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  Speaker 2: Sent tyring email. She responded three days later saying I'm disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: He alleged that after they begged him to at least
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  Speaker 2: give them one more season, he saw Tyra for the
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  Speaker 2: first time since sending the email, and that she will
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  Speaker 2: only talk to him if cameras were roaming, and that
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  Speaker 2: when the when the producers had to reset cameras.
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  Speaker 3: And all that she wants to speak to him. He
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  Speaker 3: said it was uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: They did ask Tyra on camera, is a good time
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  Speaker 2: to talk about uh, mister J and she was like, no.
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  Speaker 3: I probably call him.
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  Speaker 2: As of today, she has not called him. They taped
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  Speaker 2: that a year ago, so a lot of things happened.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start with Claudia. And Claudia, you obviously
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  Speaker 2: been in that world, you know, not the world of
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  Speaker 2: course supermodels, but just like it was.
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  Speaker 4: Like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know you are a former Passion girl.
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  Speaker 2: What were your thoughts when you saw the documentary and
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  Speaker 2: did you think it did tire any favors?
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  Speaker 5: Why she win a trench coat in the interview, Like
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, you would go with like a nice dress.
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  Speaker 5: Like she's like she was like on her way somewhere
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  Speaker 5: and she just stopped by the documentary like just pop
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  Speaker 5: in real quick.
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  Speaker 6: Like it was weird. Right, she's on the case. She's
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  Speaker 6: on the case.
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  Speaker 3: She's a spy on the case.
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  Speaker 5: She wasn't give someone that was supposed to be inspected
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  Speaker 5: gadget you know what I'm saying, Like she wasn't coming
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  Speaker 5: with it. No, it didn't were any favors. I think
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  Speaker 5: she thought it was. I think with Tyra, she like
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  Speaker 5: has a lot of people around her that be like yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 5: and they don't tell her like no, that's not believable.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I do think that she's also I do
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  Speaker 5: think there was some things that Tyra was involved in
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  Speaker 5: that was very foul. The girl Shandy, the cheating on
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  Speaker 5: the boyfriend, to me, was not cheating on a boyfriend.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel like she was sexually assaulted and to
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  Speaker 5: just be so cavalier about it, like, oh, she was,
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  Speaker 5: it was an affair.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we're just recording in reality, so absolutely not.
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  Speaker 6: You're the woman there.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like she should have had some more protection
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  Speaker 5: for that girl. I thought that was crazy, Like I
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  Speaker 5: feel like that girl got raped. That's what it looked
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  Speaker 5: like to me. I feel like it was a date
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  Speaker 5: rape situation, and everybody just like wrote it off like
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  Speaker 5: she cheated on her boyfriend.
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  Speaker 6: They brought the boys in, put them on seat, got
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  Speaker 6: them drunk. This girl is one hundred.
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  Speaker 5: Pounds wet and in a hot tub with liquor. And
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  Speaker 5: to just be so cavalier about it and just kind
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  Speaker 5: of blow it up. I thought that was whack as fuck.
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  Speaker 5: Fee I thought that was very whack. I did not
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  Speaker 5: like that. But I also think that everybody else jumping
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  Speaker 5: on a bandwagon to just be like it was Tyre, Tira, Tyra,
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  Speaker 5: when Tyra was not alone in saying a lot of
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  Speaker 5: those mean and hurtful things. So it was contested, let's
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  Speaker 5: not act like Tyra was just so mean, and Janice
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  Speaker 5: was nice, and miss J was nice, and the other
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  Speaker 5: j was nice, and they all said foul stuff. They
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  Speaker 5: said some very They was all reading the girls down.
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  Speaker 5: But Tyra was gonna get all the smoke. I think
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  Speaker 5: that all are complicit. They all bear a little responsibility
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  Speaker 5: in that show, and to just be like everybody distanced
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  Speaker 5: themselves like, oh, it wasn't mean, Yes it was, but
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  Speaker 5: in their defense, reality TV was way more wicked back then,
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  Speaker 5: and so was television. Like I think we're looking at
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  Speaker 5: old school television through twenty twenty six lenses, right, think
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  Speaker 5: about television in the eighties and nineties and two thousands,
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  Speaker 5: All in the Family was on. They used to say
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  Speaker 5: the N word, they used to say the R word.
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  Speaker 5: When it comes to mental health, they would say midge everything.
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  Speaker 5: All the words were a thing that all reasonly just
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  Speaker 5: that's the thing that started changing as of late. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that the way we speak about each other
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  Speaker 5: has changed a lot in the past ten fifteen years.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it's a little unfair to judge her
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  Speaker 5: by today's standards. But with that being said, there was
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  Speaker 5: still lots of way she definitely was She could have
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  Speaker 5: done better in some areas, but I don't think she's
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  Speaker 5: as evil as they're making her out to be.
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  Speaker 6: In my opinion, I think it was the network more
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  Speaker 6: than her.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, Dustin, Yeah, I agree with Claudia. I agree with you, Claudia.
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  Speaker 7: I think that it is a bit. It's just not
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  Speaker 7: I don't see it yielding anything fruitful to look at
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  Speaker 7: these old television programs through a lens of how we
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  Speaker 7: understand human behavior today and what wen the tools and
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  Speaker 7: resources that we have today to make better decisions than
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  Speaker 7: they made, Because they just did say a lot of
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  Speaker 7: fucked up shit to those contestants on that show. They
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  Speaker 7: did a lot of things that don't make sense when
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  Speaker 7: you look back at it, and I think those are
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  Speaker 7: the things that kind of deserve the focus here.
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  Speaker 4: I also agree with Claudia.
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  Speaker 7: Although Tyra Banks is a cuckoo clock right, and she's
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  Speaker 7: always doing Zaney, you know, she didn't lost it.
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  Speaker 4: She's always acting like she's out to lunch, you know.
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  Speaker 7: The whole the over dramatic commercials and the voie sees
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  Speaker 7: and all that stuff is just a lot, right, But
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  Speaker 7: I don't think it's fair to throw all the way
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  Speaker 7: to all that shit on there on her. Now me personally,
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  Speaker 7: I never watched Top Model at the height of its popularity.
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  Speaker 4: The only know I.
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  Speaker 7: Never was into it, bro The only season I watched
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  Speaker 7: was the season when Eva won. I watched that season
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  Speaker 7: because you know, it was being talked about in a
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  Speaker 7: way that piqued my interests, and I had never watched it,
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  Speaker 7: so I'm like, let me see what this is about.
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  Speaker 7: So a lot of the stuff that I saw in
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  Speaker 7: that documentary was new information for me. It was completely
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  Speaker 7: insane for whatever producers made the call to invite those boys,
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  Speaker 7: young boys over to the house and get drunk with
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  Speaker 7: those girls. That was just inappropriate. That that is something.
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  Speaker 7: The inappropriateness of that is ever green. That's not something
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  Speaker 7: that we was doing different back then. It wasn't cool then,
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  Speaker 7: it ain't cool now, right. But I also think that Tyer,
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  Speaker 7: like Claudia said.
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  Speaker 4: Wasn't alone.
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  Speaker 7: Remember I didn't watch, you know what I'm saying the
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  Speaker 7: show back in the day, so I didn't know nothing
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  Speaker 7: about how Janis Dickinson was showing her ass on that show.
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  Speaker 4: She's the one who pissed me off after I watched that.
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  Speaker 7: She sat up there with her Ozzy Osbourne looking ass.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: She set up there body shaming motherfuckers and calling them
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  Speaker 7: girls fat and telling her to lose weight and shit,
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  Speaker 7: and the whole entire time, she literally looks like a
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  Speaker 7: totem pole.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. She looks like somebody.
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  Speaker 7: She looked like somebody whittled and carved her face into
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  Speaker 7: a block of wood some goddamn where. And she got
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  Speaker 7: the audacity sitting up there looking like the scream mask.
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  Speaker 4: You know that mask from the screen movie.
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  Speaker 7: She's sitting up there looking like the goddamn scream mask
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  Speaker 7: talking about Takara fat.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're too skinny.
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  Speaker 7: So now what you know what I'm saying, Since we
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  Speaker 7: shaming motherfuckers up in here, she sat up in there
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  Speaker 7: with them that whisk broom and whisk brooms, splitting in
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  Speaker 7: stringy hair, split all the way to the goddamn root.
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  Speaker 4: Because she's evil on the inside.
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  Speaker 7: Heard the things that she said to them women, them
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  Speaker 7: contestants up there were so fucking mean spirited. It wasn't
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  Speaker 7: even like a critique said in a way that you know,
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  Speaker 7: my sting a little bit, but it was interesting and entertaining.
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  Speaker 7: She was just up there saying whatever she wanted, looking
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  Speaker 7: like a dead damn body. Her Maryland Manson looking motherfucking
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  Speaker 7: ass set up there and insulted them women like that,
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  Speaker 7: And I hope all of them cuts her mother fucking
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  Speaker 7: ass the fuck out if they're ever unfortunate enough to
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  Speaker 7: share space with her.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm personally would a broke.
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  Speaker 7: I wouldn't have been able to keep it together for
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  Speaker 7: TV because the minute she got smarted with me out
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  Speaker 7: or to her, well, you look like a match so
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  Speaker 7: what you want to do?
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 7: You literally looked like somebody took your ank took you
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  Speaker 7: by the ankles, and drug your face across the back
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  Speaker 7: of a match book.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's what she looks like.
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  Speaker 7: So I just didn't appreciate that, and that is what
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  Speaker 7: I took away from the document documentary. Much love to
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  Speaker 7: miss Jay. I wish him the most healing. Whatever their pronouns,
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  Speaker 7: I wish him the most healing. You know what I'm
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  Speaker 7: saying and a speedy recovery, and I was moved to
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  Speaker 7: almost crying. You know, I'm a thug, and I was
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  Speaker 7: moved to to to almost shedding tears when Nigel and
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  Speaker 7: mister Jay went and visited Miss Jay and the way
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  Speaker 7: that Nigel was touching Miss Jay's arm, that's a real relationship.
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  Speaker 7: That was real love, and it was on a just
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  Speaker 7: on a very human level. Of all the crazy shit
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  Speaker 7: in that documentary, I'm glad people got to see that
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  Speaker 7: part of three people just being able to connect and
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  Speaker 7: bond over goodness.
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  Speaker 4: But fuck Janie Dickinson. Fuck Janice Dickinson.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't know why didn't nobody custs her ass
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  Speaker 7: the fuck out on that panel.
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  Speaker 5: She used to be pretty back in the day, but
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  Speaker 5: then she like, you know, she was like getting on,
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  Speaker 5: you know, in love with the Coco and all that,
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  Speaker 5: and then she ended up looking like Howard Stern.
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  Speaker 7: Days are going on? Those days are gone. You know
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  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, she does, days are gone. I'm not
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  Speaker 7: gonna tear up too much more because God already did that.
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  Speaker 7: You've seen her, but just know, like the things that
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  Speaker 7: she was doing that was just fileless, fuck foul foul, foul, foul.
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  Speaker 7: There was nothing good that she said to any of
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  Speaker 7: them contestants. There was nothing to glean or take. She
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  Speaker 7: was just being evil, So be evil. Right back to
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  Speaker 7: her motherfucking the wick looking as she looked like a wick,
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  Speaker 7: a wooden wick.
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  Speaker 4: From a candle after you lit it, That's what she
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  Speaker 4: looked like.
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  Speaker 3: Wendy three wick are Karen's.
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  Speaker 4: Only one struggle wick crackling.
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  Speaker 3: Blue to Lousma, your thoughts, I have a very different perspective,
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  Speaker 3: very very different.
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  Speaker 8: The first thing is the fish stinks from the head,
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  Speaker 8: so we have to be very careful pretending that the
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  Speaker 8: responsibility is equal, because it's not. Tyra Banks is the
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  Speaker 8: executive producer and the creator of the show. Her and
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  Speaker 8: can Mock take all the credit when things are good.
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  Speaker 8: There's another side to that, right and sot him, Him
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  Speaker 8: and Tyra are the two eyeballs of the fish. And
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  Speaker 8: so in the same way that when I come on
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  Speaker 8: this show, I know that I'm going to be safe.
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  Speaker 8: I know that I can be raw, and I also
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  Speaker 8: know I'm gonna have a great time. Right That's even
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  Speaker 8: though I love you and Claudia. That's because of the
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  Speaker 8: ecosystem created by Carlos. Carlos has created the ecosystem that
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  Speaker 8: when he brings in Dustin, the audience knows to trust Dustin.
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  Speaker 8: When he brings in Claudia, the audience knows to trust Claudia.
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  Speaker 8: And when he brought me in, the audience need to
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  Speaker 8: trust me. When you cultivate that trust as the head
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  Speaker 8: of the fish, the buck has to stop at you.
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  Speaker 8: So for me, it's fucked Tyra Banks because of that.
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  Speaker 8: She created a toxic ecosystem where she incentivized the very
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  Speaker 8: things that you're complaining about in Janis and everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: She incentivized it.
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  Speaker 8: Mister Jay even said she would talk about Janis and
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  Speaker 8: then let me say it for her on camera. And
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  Speaker 8: so this thing of you being in charge and creating
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  Speaker 8: a very dangerous and hostile ecosystem. But the people who
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  Speaker 8: are under you are getting smoke. But we're acting as
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  Speaker 8: if we're overstating you. No, you created this ecosystem. If
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  Speaker 8: the show does well, you get credit. When the show
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  Speaker 8: is harmful, you also get credit. You live and die
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  Speaker 8: by the same sword. Also, I I winced when we
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  Speaker 8: do this whole by a twenty twenty six Lens conversation.
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  Speaker 9: I judged slavery by a twenty twenty six lens, and
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  Speaker 9: it was still wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Normalized dysfunction is still dysfunction.
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  Speaker 8: Just because the dysfunction was normalized in two thousand and
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  Speaker 8: three doesn't mean it was.
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  Speaker 3: Any less harmful.
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  Speaker 8: So I think it's actually okay to judge things by
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  Speaker 8: a current lens because we've evolved after we've watched the
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  Speaker 8: harm that it caused.
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  Speaker 9: That we didn't know what was gonna cause. Just because
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  Speaker 9: we didn't know doesn't mean it wasn't cause.
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  Speaker 3: And we also have to be.
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  Speaker 8: Careful about what about ism. We can't keep on talking
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  Speaker 8: about other people when we're talking about Tyra. That's like saying, well,
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  Speaker 8: I know I cheated on you, but you cheat on
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  Speaker 8: your last X. We're talking about the person who was
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  Speaker 8: taking all the credit. If Tyra Banks had shown that
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  Speaker 8: she had evolved, if Tyra Banks had shown that she
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  Speaker 8: had grown, then I would be saying, hey, that was
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  Speaker 8: in two thousand and three and she's evolved. Tyra Banks
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  Speaker 8: said at the end of the documentary See You for
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  Speaker 8: Season twenty five.
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  Speaker 9: She has not changed.
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  Speaker 8: She deserves every bit of smoke that she is getting.
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  Speaker 8: I know people who've been personally hurt by her, So
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  Speaker 8: for me, I don't even have the distance or the
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  Speaker 8: luxury of seeing this.
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  Speaker 3: People have been personally hurt.
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  Speaker 8: A black woman said to Tyra Banks, I cannot get
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  Speaker 8: a job to feed my family because of you, and
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  Speaker 8: Tyra says, I knew that was gonna happen, and I
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  Speaker 8: did nothing.
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  Speaker 3: That is nasty work to me and also too.
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  Speaker 8: There's another documentary coming out on March eleventh on E
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  Speaker 8: that's gonna be from the other people, including Jenis Dickerson
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  Speaker 8: and the other models who were not involved. I'm actually
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  Speaker 8: waiting to see what the other side without Tyra's involvement
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  Speaker 8: looks like. I'm just remiss about us over extending grace
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  Speaker 8: to someone who and minds you.
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  Speaker 3: You guys, the last episode of Top.
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  Speaker 8: Models in twenty eighteen, y'all acting like we were wearing
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  Speaker 8: long teas with belts back in two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 3: It was twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 9: That wasn't that long ago.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't that.
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  Speaker 8: I think we're over extending grace to Tyra. I think
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  Speaker 8: it's fuck her and Jenis Dickerson, and I think that
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  Speaker 8: the people underneath her were following her lead the way
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  Speaker 8: that we're showing up now. If Carlos was any different,
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  Speaker 8: we would show up differently. That's not about our character,
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  Speaker 8: that's ours following our leader, right. And so when you
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  Speaker 8: create a nasty no no no. But you know what
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  Speaker 8: I'm talking about that you might be perfect.
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  Speaker 4: I know what you're saying. I ain't even know.
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  Speaker 8: The perfect example is a perfect example is Claudia can't
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  Speaker 8: say see you next Tuesday. It doesn't mean that you're
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  Speaker 8: changing your character. It means you're following guidelines. Your character
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  Speaker 8: might have been the same, but you might have a
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  Speaker 8: new list of words you can't say, and you would
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  Speaker 8: follow it out of respect.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 9: The head of the fish stinks from the head.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I feel about it.
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  Speaker 5: I did the things from the head. I also think
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  Speaker 5: that Tyer wasn't and I'm not defending Tyra. I had
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  Speaker 5: a friend that worked for her and she said she
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  Speaker 5: was a nightmare. I will say this as someone that
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  Speaker 5: has created shows for networks and people thought I was
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  Speaker 5: the person that was running the ship. I did get
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: credit when things well somewhat good, and then when things
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: were bad, I got all the credit.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, I got the smoke. But then there was
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: someone that was I I had no power.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Really not saying that Tyra no power, but I do
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: feel like there's enough blame to go around to, not
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: just Tyra.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: I don't think it was a Tyra, I really don't.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of other I feel like
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: some of other people are acting like, oh my god,
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: if Tyra Tyra Tyra, like y'all went out there causing
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: a lot of harm to these girls, and now you
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: kind of a little bit of a vision's history, a
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: little bit of not really owning your part in it.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: I see a lot of that too in that documentary.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: I'm part of that series with Tyra's I'm on the
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Price for episode in the eighteen congratulations and then doctor
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Phil get his ass together too, because I did that
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: show too.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: So I also think that I think that both of
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: y'all are right, you know what I'm saying. And I
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: think that the problem is that Tyra has not taken
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: any sort of a careal accountability for the things that happened,
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: right because she didn't act alone.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: She did a lot of things that were fucked up,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's also very.
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: True that she wasn't the only one in that environment
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: doing that However, the difference is has yet to take
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: any sort of real, tangible attempt at taking accountability for
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: any of the ship, even in the documentary. She said
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: in that in that interview chair, and never she refused
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: to speak about mister j when he was very clear
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: and blatant about his recanting of the timeline.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Right, we are recounting of the timeline.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: We we she she didn't do shit she was supposed
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: to do that would make people give her any grace.
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: So I completely understand how we've all arrived at this point.
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: And I think that ultimately the accountability piece is what
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: where she's lacking. If she would be accountable, it would
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: make it easier to make all of this make sense.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: That's all I wanted to say. So Toymer, goddamn it,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: same we were all ruined. I have never yelled at
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I'm super like this docu.
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: It made her look if you had a doubt, it
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: made it look horrible.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, So here's my two cents.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I actually agree with everything you guys said, and that's
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the beauty of this conversation and the documentary because there
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: isn't any There isn't it's no nuance that there's so
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: many variables to this conversation.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: One thing she did say that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, understood, right, because I do at least want
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: to say things that she said that I was like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: makes sense. Bosses have bosses. You're right about that, right.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Tyra Banks created a show. The major networks turned her down.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: She then pitched it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Her last pitch was to the UPNUPN and at that
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: time Upon was owned by CBS. CBS at that time,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the president was Less Moon Bass. So if in case
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: you guys don't know who he is, he is somebody
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: that allegedly, because you know, hey, allegedly, he is the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: one that told everybody Jenna Jackson after the Super Bowl
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: stint would never work in Dana's business. He's the one
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: who allegedly removed Jennet Jackson from ever appearing on any
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Viacom led stations, which includes B E, T, B, H.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: One, MTV.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, you haven't seen Jenna Jackson any of those programs
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: because he allegedly said those things.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Les Moon Bass was also he's also the husband of
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Julie Brother. He got fired for allegedly sexual misappropriate conduct.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Whatever happened, right, So.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: This man was Tarvers boss, and allegedly he said to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: her some crazy things and she said that almost got
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to a fight.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Now with that being said, Tyra Banks is.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: One of those ambitious people where she unfortunately, in my opinion,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: she has something to prove and she went too far
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: with hey, I want this to represent the model industry
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: in this day and age got it understood. The reason
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: why she has to take responsibility is because it's one
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: of those things where that may represent the industry today.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: But how about you flip it on his head and
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: show us how you're gonna change it? Right, and and
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and it's obviously it's obvious she didn't.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: It's obvious that this show meant the world to her.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: It was her first child in terms of something she
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: gave birth to, and she she wanted this more than
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: any the world. And the show was successful. The show
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: was seen in one hundred and eighty countries and had
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: a bunch of different versions of it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: The problem with Tarbard Banks is what I would have
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: love for her to say is Guys, I got it wrong.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I did it wrong. I should have done better.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Tabar Banks and her trench code came across so smug
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: she came across Tabard Banks has no sense of reality
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: pun intended. So the way I look at it, for example,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: there's tons of when I did Housewives two thousand and eight,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: we shot Kim Zosiak drinking of a Rist solo cut driving.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You will never do that today, right, So there are
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: different things that you got away with then that now
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: we look at like, you can't do that living with
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the Rist solo cut.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Wether not alcohols in it, we don't know. It's it's
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the visualization for me. But you have to be like
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that was wrong. She never said anything was wrong.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: She lost me when she acted like she could not
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: remember what happened to Shandy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Shandy.
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: Oh, I.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Think, but that's production? Which one is it?
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: Because twenty minutes ago you said you created it, you
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: produced it, You do all these things. But when it
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: came to something that wasn't that wasn't received well or possible,
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: you know what people consider to the essay, you don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 11: remember that. So to me, a lot of what I saw, unfortunately,
• 22:35
  Speaker 11: and I'm somebody who I watched every single episode Top Model,
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: that was my shit back in the day.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I loved that show.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I was very disappointed in Tyra because it's all about
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: your character, the character of the person.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: It's your character.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it is twenty twenty
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: six and you have not yet contacted somebody who y'all
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: used to have sleepovers.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: He did your makeup.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying to be best friends with him, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the fact that you don't want to talk about him publicly.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You said I should call him, you don't. I don't
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: know what miss Jay, Miss Jay did to you?
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I did what? Oh well, what did he do to her?
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: Well?
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: One of the things that he did is during an
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: interview he said that Tyra's bullshitting about the production thing,
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: and actually he was with her when they got the
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: call that Shanny was being essayed, and she chose not
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: to do anything about it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: She knew exactly when it was happening.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: So he's been spilling tea that she knew someone was
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: being violated and intentionally decided not to do anything about it,
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: and that a lot of the things she's blaming on
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: production were things that she actually about in real time
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: and stood by because they knew that was going to
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: be good programming, including when the young lady's mother was
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: shot in the head and they intentionally made her do
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: a photoshoot of her getting shot in the head, just
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: like her mother. That she was in the room, intentionally
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: doing things that she's now blaming on production. And she
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: probably feels the way that he's blowing the first spot
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: left and right about all these things that she's blaming
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: on let's moon vesting production.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: That was really just her. Yes, and that's the thing.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Then let's move this through something. Allegedly. Absolutely, they can
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: mock the EP this shit too. Allegedly.
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: Absolutely, you're not alone in this, however you're claiming under
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: But but the thing was this, it's the character in
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: who you are today.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Your ego Tara Banks allowed you to walk into a
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: situation where you look crazy, you held not yourself accountable.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: It also showed the character of the person you are.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And I know people who worked on the Tar Banks Show.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: It's not my story to tell. I'm not gonna go
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: there with that, But what I will say is I
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: looked at that. I looked at the smug look she gave,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: and and and I wanted to find room boom to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: give her some grades in terms of yes, you were
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: a black woman that sold the show and the weight
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: was on you and girlfriend, I know what that feels like.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: The fuck at what point this show was started in
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: two thousand and three? You mean to tell me in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: twenty three years. You can't look at yourself and say
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't get that right. You can't look at yourself
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and say, miss Jay, although you did whatever, you had
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: a stroke, let me at least come busy. You hold
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: your hand and say all that bullshit back, then fuck it?
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: How are you contact these people? There would be no
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: top model at Tarboro I love there woman, no top
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: model without mister J miss j Nija Barker. Just like
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the month in I Live is popping. I would never say, well,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you know how this is?
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It's all me. No, it's this amazing three people who
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I consider.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: My friends that I get to have fun with and
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: if they ever felt like Carlos, X Y and Z,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I would be there for them. But I will Me
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and Claudia had a falling gout once. I never once
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: was ever not going to be there for my girl.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Shit does happen. But it's the character and the sad
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: part about this, the whole documentary is this woman let
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: her ego get to her to end this same cycle
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: twenty five Tyre bay, I nor anybody wants to see
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that ship.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Wrap it up. Sis, stop living in the past. You
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: had a that that shows iconic in its own right,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: and you have to let it go and you have
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: to move on that. It was, it was, it was.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: It was stupid to say yes to doing this. I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: with Claudia. I don't know who's on your team, but
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I know allegedly no one tells you what to do.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Sis, it's it was. This was the dumbest
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: thing you could have done.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: You would have been better fit just saying release a
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: statement and last but not leads, last but not leads.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get on the producers I work, get
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: on the producers of the of the documentary. Yep, now
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I got my tire, think out the way.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: But again, everybody plays a role, the producers of that documentary,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the directors. Whatever y'all tried it, y'all wanted this to
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: be a smear campaign. The fact that y'all did not
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: reach out to Eva, Marcel, to Carra Jones. Y'all got
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: da costa three women, one of them who won and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: did not want to get their POV because publicly, those
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: publicly even into Carra especially, these are my friends. They
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: had a great experience. So as a journalist, hey, hey,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan's As a journalist, you want to get all sides.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So what I will give Tara is this, you walked
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: into something that was a smear campaign because they did
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: not even call the people who had nice things to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: say about you. And that's why Wednesday on my YouTube
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: channel catched me into Kara talking about Tom Modo on
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: my YouTube channel and.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: God, oh yes, that's called journalism.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: Yes it is. So it's very obvious.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Like I said, I don't think she has anyone in
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: her life that tells her no, because it seems like she's,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: like she says, not really in the reality space, like
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: in the real world with the rest of us. But
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: again I do have to keep pointing this out. Tyra
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Banks has never owned upn And let me tell you something,
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: if those producers did not want that essay scene or
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: that scene to be on there, or those mean comments said,
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: it wouldn't have been said.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: She can be executive producer. I believe it's more of
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: a vanity credit. I really do.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: I think she was given the title, but I think
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, those producers wanted to
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: be as wicked and as low as possible.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: She went along with it, she didn't stop it. On
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: one hand, I get it's like, well, it's my baby's
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: my show.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: I want to show, but I don't want to be
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: like she Now is a perfect time to distance herself
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: from the parts that she did not like. Now was
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: the perfect time to say I feel awful. I mean,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: I really want to happen, and I really feel bad.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: I shouldn't let this. She doesn't awful, but I'm saying
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: this would be the perfect time to do it if
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: she felt that way. And and and that's why you
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: know she'sn't She doesn't get dragged in this documentary, and
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: she's didn't get dragged in the next one. And I
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: don't know what are comeback is going to be, what
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: it's gonna take for her to be like maybe seeing
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: this on TV, she can be like, Okay, I'm looking
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: crazy because I don't see how you can look at
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: that candy situation. I'm very bothered by that, and and
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: some of the other stuff that they put the girls through.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Like I get those producers well wicke it back then,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: they were like, hey man, we gotta you want this
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: show or not.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: I get that they that was probably happening. I get
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: that there's like, ah, the decision like do I go there?
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Do I not?
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Do I portray these young girls I have I had
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: their trust?
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: You did you didn't?
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: So just say, you know what, there was a great
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: pressure on me from the network. She could easily say
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: that we would believe that, but she didn't. We believe
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: that because she does not own If you think of
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: a black woman is running a network, but these white
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: people they're not.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: They're not. She could easily get our sympathy and say,
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: you know what, they made me do this. I didn't
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: want to. I felt awful instead of being.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Like who Shandy?
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: Who's Shandy?
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: I think I remember her vaguely great on the show.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: In my opinion, Gabriel Union, by the way, is a
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: perfect example for anybody who wants to know that we're
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: not being unrealistic. Gabriel Union came forward several years ago
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: and said I was a mean girl in Hollywood. People
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: like Ryan Destiny who looked like the baby version of me.
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: I was hating on them and I had to sit
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: with myself like, oh, is you okay? And I've never
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: loved her more So this is not about being punitive.
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: This is about somebody who's being willfully ignorant. If she
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: really sincerely said that was some bullshit. And you know what,
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: I was trying to fight against the oppressor and I
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: accidentally came one, we would all be clamoring to clapp
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: for her.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I was hoping that Flue, I really, I really watched it,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: hoping that she could acknowledge that, Hey, y'all, I fucked up.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I got Matrix. But but again I saw her character
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and I was like.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Damn, son, I just it was just it was it
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: was it was I just saw ego. I just saw
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: somebody who who just had a bunch of ego. But look,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I think we said all that we need to say.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: So I want to move on to the real.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Housewilk that Gabrielle union piece.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: I was at that luncheon when she gave that speech,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: and every black woman in Hollywood was in, and they always.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Like, why tell me, why why do you think they
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: did that? We all have an.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Experience with her in Hollywood. It was so many of us.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: I had a mean girl experience of course, of course,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: of course many years ago, but it was a lot
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: of it, and I'm glad she said it out loud.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: But the best growth is changed behavior, and I wish
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: that for her. I wish that for Tyra, I wish
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: that for anyone that you can say it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: It sounds good, but are you? Are you moving on?
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: And I want you to because we have too much
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: we're fighting against with them other people for us to
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: be going at it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: We have too much out there with them other people. Okay,
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell my book one day, but there's.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: A lot of that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: I was at that luncheon. I was at that luncheon.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: I was with like the Who's who, every every black actress,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: movie star, host, producer was in that audience. And when
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: she said that, everybody was like everyone had like an
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: experience and it was crazy. So Tyra, just like you,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: like a lot of people have an experience with you
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: because you were so important to the culture, you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, like you had you touched a lot of people.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: So with that comes a lot of responsibility, you know,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I mean a lot of responsibility and things.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: That just maybe end up being your everyday where you
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: move really could hurt people.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: So I'm playing with like, move on, I really am
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: and and learned from it for real, not just give
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: lip service to it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: So when you all was at the Black women lunching
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: and Gabrielle you walked in, y'all really did her?
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: How Vividcate did her at the beginning? They too can
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: play that game. Gabrielle bone that you are really really.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: I went to the war the bathroom. I was like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: sad it out loud, I'm glad you said it. And
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: then she goes, yeah, you know we have this me
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: and you with this weird thing. I don't know what,
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: but when did we'll talk? I'm like, I'd be open
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: to that. We never did, but that was a baby
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: step in the right direction.
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: Did I summons the devil? And you know that was
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: supposed to be an example, y'all, I don't trigger.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: VP and marketing.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Call her Claudia.
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: The spirit of Billy Porters. Who Claudia is when she's tipsy?
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: That's yes, Yes, Claudia is Billy Porter.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Who are you? I don't drink, but I have a
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I have an alter ego. His name is Cortes.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: You gotta give him you give him.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: He would be Hispanic, isn't Dominican?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Or you gotta put a ricon alter ego.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Anyways, anyways, let's get to the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: So rain Drops, Claudia Blue, and Dustin. I wanted to
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: recap the show.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: But first thing first, rain Drops, we do have a
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: special guest here from Potomac.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: This woman and appeared on the Part two reunion last night.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Drop the bomb, not fad funny, Carlos, drop the bomb,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and we are here.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: To figure out what was going on.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Claudia Blue, Dustin, rain Drops, Ladies, gentlemen, gays and days,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: please give it up for the beautiful friend of to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Miss Jazzy Harris, Hello.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: Hello, Hello, the beautiful people.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Nice to see you guys.
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: Hey Claudia Girl, Nice to see you again, just per.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Usual, Wallas, Hey you, Carlos Blue, Hi everyone, thanks for
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: having me on today.
• 35:49
  Speaker 13: I enjoyed the commentary about America's Nextbmodel documentary and all
• 35:53
  Speaker 13: of the things y'all are making me miss my journalism
• 35:55
  Speaker 13: days honey b Yes.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Well listen, we're you okay, So we have to get
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: into your segment because, like Keanna said, I know you
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: got fifteen minutes left.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I want to make sure we use it all too.
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: How about that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Be a Jazzy I like brother and sistern so she
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: gets my humor. So Ray Dawn's called out. That was right. No,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I love her. She was on my podcast last year.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: We had a good old time. It broke the internet.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, let's get right into it. And I want
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: obviously Claudia Dustin and blew the chimement as well. You
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: made an accusation on the Part two reunion that Keanna
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: allegedly stole her boyfriend Greg from his wife, And just
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: so that I'm able to be the journalist that I am,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I want to read Jazzy's response to.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: That accusation.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: That you I'm sorry Keana's respond to the accusation. But
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: before I do that, why do you think KK stole
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Greg from his wife?
• 37:17
  Speaker 13: Well, I assumed that based on what was told to
• 37:20
  Speaker 13: me in regards to me joining the show last year,
• 37:23
  Speaker 13: and I've said that based on the facts.
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: That she told me.
• 37:27
  Speaker 13: So the timeline that she gave me was not the
• 37:29
  Speaker 13: timeline that was discussed on Instagram recently. So I mean
• 37:33
  Speaker 13: I was just going based off of the information I.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: Was given, so she told you. She told you to
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: she told you that.
• 37:40
  Speaker 13: She told me when I joined the show that her
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: and Greg have been together three years, and when I
• 37:44
  Speaker 13: asked how long had he been divorced, she said about
• 37:47
  Speaker 13: three years.
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: So it sounded like an overlap to me.
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: I even saide I did in the moments, but I
• 37:54
  Speaker 13: was just like, okay, because she was actually asking you, which, Asi,
• 37:58
  Speaker 13: why did you say you know that Darius is a baby,
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: Mama had been in the picture for you know, whatever,
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: ample time before you whatever. Why didn't you just ignore
• 38:11
  Speaker 13: that question like I do? And that's what started the conversation.
• 38:15
  Speaker 13: So you know, that's kind of where it all stemmed from.
• 38:18
  Speaker 13: And I never really brought it up until she consistently
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: had been gunning for me and wanted to talk so
• 38:24
  Speaker 13: much about my life.
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: I'm like, well, you know, you have an.
• 38:26
  Speaker 13: Interesting life as well, and let's talk about yours and
• 38:29
  Speaker 13: maybe you can clear up what you told me, which
• 38:31
  Speaker 13: she decided to do now. And as far as I'm concerned,
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: that was the first time that I had heard her
• 38:36
  Speaker 13: publicly be clear about any timelines in which her and
• 38:40
  Speaker 13: Greg may have gotten together.
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: So, just going off of what was told to me.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, when you set up with and told to you,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: just when I'm clear, you're saying the information that KK
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: gave you, which was me and Greg were together for
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: about three years. She then followed up with he was
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: divorced from his wife three years as well. Yes, it
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: was your own timeline based on what she said to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you that made you come to that conclusion, or did
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: you hear in the streets that she stole somebody's husband?
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: Now this is this was not something that I heard
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: in the streets until after I heard in the streets
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: that that could be true. But when I brought this up,
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: this was based on what she told me.
• 39:24
  Speaker 13: And you know when you have a moment with your
• 39:26
  Speaker 13: friend and they mentioned something and you're like, y'all looking
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: at each other, like and then you kind of just
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: skim past that information because it was a little uncomfortable.
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: That's how the situation had played out.
• 39:37
  Speaker 13: And so when she kept wanting to talk about fifteen
• 39:40
  Speaker 13: minutes this and fifteen minutes, then I'm like, well, you
• 39:42
  Speaker 13: know what, in fact, let's talk about a lot of
• 39:44
  Speaker 13: things that you never talk about. And when you brought
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: it to me and presented it to me, you presented
• 39:48
  Speaker 13: it in a way that you purposely don't talk about
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: this for a reason. So I felt that, you know,
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: somebody keeps gunning for me. I'm gonna pull your tea too, Jessie.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Why they keep saying you recording everybody phone call?
• 40:03
  Speaker 13: Because what happens on these shows is when you have
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: a strong player in the group and people are wanting
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: to protect their status, they need the whole group to
• 40:13
  Speaker 13: go against you in order to ice you out. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: that's just the truth, Okay. I don't think that anybody
• 40:19
  Speaker 13: on that couch even thinks that I ever recorded anyone,
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: and I think that they know that. In fact, at
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: the reunion, it was shared from Angel that she knew
• 40:28
  Speaker 13: that she was on speaker.
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: I never recorded.
• 40:30
  Speaker 13: Angel also never recorded Stacy, and I find it very strange.
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: Although I know she's a bit performative, I do find
• 40:37
  Speaker 13: it strange for her to want to bring up a
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: situation that was an honest mistake, an honest mistake that
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: I actually called out at the time because I thought
• 40:44
  Speaker 13: it was her phone and she had never brought that
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: up before I had come back on the cast, because
• 40:49
  Speaker 13: we had talked several times, and before I even came back.
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: On the cast. This girl was fine with me.
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: She had never even brought that up, because, mind you,
• 40:59
  Speaker 13: this happened way before I was even back on the show.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: So what happened, y'all.
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: Was on the phone, and like when I first got.
• 41:06
  Speaker 13: My iPhone, Stacy and I were on the phone, having
• 41:08
  Speaker 13: a very casual conversation, really not even talking about the
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: show at all. All of a sudden, my phone goes
• 41:14
  Speaker 13: this phone call is being recorded. I'm thinking that it's
• 41:17
  Speaker 13: Stacy's phone.
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: So I'm like, Stacy, uh, girl, what is that? And
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: she was like, I don't know.
• 41:23
  Speaker 13: I was gonna ask you that, and I said, hold up,
• 41:25
  Speaker 13: hold up, hoa up, hoad up, girl, I just got.
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: This phone last week.
• 41:28
  Speaker 13: Let me figure out what was going on and see
• 41:29
  Speaker 13: if it's my phone. I looked at her, I said,
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: oh my god, Stacey, that.
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: Was my phone. So I turned it off.
• 41:33
  Speaker 13: Mind you, I had never in my life, or I
• 41:35
  Speaker 13: had in a god, I had never in my life
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: seen or heard anything like that on any of my iPhones.
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: So I was extremely confused at that moment. Stacy and
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: I got off the phone. We never really brought the
• 41:45
  Speaker 13: situation back up until she said at the reunion, oh, Jesse,
• 41:50
  Speaker 13: you record people, and I'm like, Stacy, your bullshit is
• 41:53
  Speaker 13: really a form of art. So for you to sit
• 41:55
  Speaker 13: here at the beginning and be like, oh, Jesse needed
• 41:57
  Speaker 13: a moment. In the last moments of the finale, you
• 42:00
  Speaker 13: were the one who brought up the whole thing about Charisse.
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: Stacey, if I.
• 42:03
  Speaker 13: Needed a moment, girl, I could have been had a
• 42:06
  Speaker 13: moment with you, because everything that I ask you in
• 42:09
  Speaker 13: regards to my wedding, et cetera, had always been off camera.
• 42:12
  Speaker 13: Why Because I'm a real person and a real friend,
• 42:14
  Speaker 13: and when I come on this platform, I'm like many
• 42:16
  Speaker 13: of the others. I come on as authentic hints. Why
• 42:20
  Speaker 13: I'm supposed to be a friend of the show. But
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: if somebody's not being a friend to me, that doesn't
• 42:23
  Speaker 13: mean I still have to be their friend or be
• 42:25
  Speaker 13: fake with them.
• 42:26
  Speaker 10: And I think that that was the issue that Stacey
• 42:28
  Speaker 10: also had, because.
• 42:29
  Speaker 13: She wanted me to basically bow down, be a step
• 42:32
  Speaker 13: stool to her and let her play in my face
• 42:35
  Speaker 13: this whole time and not say anything, which another conversation
• 42:38
  Speaker 13: we had off camera when that happened was like, Stacy,
• 42:40
  Speaker 13: you don't get to try to sun me about Charisse.
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: When your loyalty has been questioned the entire season.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: I will say that you're right about the phones they do.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Can they can record you with like it's super easy?
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: You're like, oh, shoot, but what did you think when
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Angel kind of co signed that? Because when all you recorded,
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: I heard Angel saying I was surprised she said this.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: She's like, yeah, that hasn't happened.
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: Let me say something.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Fast, yes or no. Have you ever recorded a conversation
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: between you?
• 43:09
  Speaker 13: Absolutely not, absolutely not willing to go on a light
• 43:12
  Speaker 13: detective test to prove that on any day. Set it
• 43:15
  Speaker 13: up and I'll come on your podcast and your platform
• 43:18
  Speaker 13: and do just that happily because and will because.
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: First of all, it is twenty twenty six.
• 43:25
  Speaker 13: If I was really that shady and messy to want
• 43:28
  Speaker 13: to record a conversation, I wouldn't have to record.
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: It on my phone.
• 43:32
  Speaker 13: It's not that hard to record someone if that's the
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: weird stuff that you want to do. But quite frankly, Stacey,
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: you ain't never said nothing that I would want to record,
• 43:40
  Speaker 13: and none of the girls have ever said anything that
• 43:42
  Speaker 13: I would want to record.
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: I think that that's weird behavior.
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: It's childish, is immature and quite frankly, it's against the
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: law in Maryland. So I mean, I think that she
• 43:53
  Speaker 13: just really drugged that out and was performative and even
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: bringing that up Jesse.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I have though, I'm oh, no, no, no, I'm so
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. But to ask Claudia's question though, why did
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Angel co sign it? And she's supposed to be your friend.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Wendy did too.
• 44:09
  Speaker 13: Let me let me say this without and Wendy let
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: me say this without.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I was like, damn they going to.
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: Between the lines. That was not the response at the reunion.
• 44:20
  Speaker 13: Let me just say that at the reunion, everybody was
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: all mute, okay, because I'm say I know that everything
• 44:30
  Speaker 13: does not make the cut, okay, and sometimes responses that
• 44:35
  Speaker 13: may have been a different response to something else. I
• 44:38
  Speaker 13: don't know, Doub's not what I saw at the reunion.
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: What I saw at the reunion was Stacey and Wendy
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: trying to say that, oh, you recorded or not recorded,
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: but you put Angel on speakerphone. And I said, first
• 44:51
  Speaker 13: of all, I text Angel in the moment and told her, Angel,
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: you are on speakerphone.
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: These girls are here, okay, And Angel.
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: Said, yes, that's true. Jazzy did say that that was
• 45:00
  Speaker 13: what I witnessed with my own eyes. So I was
• 45:04
  Speaker 13: very shocked and confused when I found out that that
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: edit came through as if the entire couch and even
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: Kay and Tiya said oh yeah, as if I was
• 45:13
  Speaker 13: recording them, which is so weird to me. But again,
• 45:16
  Speaker 13: in order to ice somebody out, the girls have to
• 45:19
  Speaker 13: gang up and get the stronger player, you know, out
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: so that they can, you.
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: Know, do what they have to do for their coins.
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: I have a question about it that's been bothering me,
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: and you're the perfect person to answer it. There was
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: a rare, compassionate moment where you pulled her aside to
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: talk about something unsavory, some allegations about some coins, and
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: somehow it was brought on camera, even though you were
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: kind enough to do it off camera. Did you feel
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: ambushed by that, because it's very rare that somebody gives
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: up such a great moment to be humanistic like that
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: and then to have weaponized against you.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Where are you guys now and how did you feel
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: about that ambush? Because I was.
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: Stunned because you were doing her a solid.
• 46:01
  Speaker 13: Great, Well, it's funny because I also tried to do
• 46:04
  Speaker 13: her a solid by letting her know that when we
• 46:07
  Speaker 13: were back on the golf carts to kind of pipe
• 46:09
  Speaker 13: it down. And when I said that to her, she
• 46:13
  Speaker 13: kind of continued on. It was very like, it was
• 46:16
  Speaker 13: very evident that we were talking about something juicy. Once
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: we got back on the golf carts. When I told
• 46:21
  Speaker 13: her what was alleged to me in regards to her,
• 46:25
  Speaker 13: we were in a space where our mics were off.
• 46:28
  Speaker 13: I knew for a fact that no one could hear
• 46:30
  Speaker 13: our conversation, so I tried to give her heads up like, hey,
• 46:32
  Speaker 13: once we get off these golf carts, like cut the combo,
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: and that's not what she done, which is why it
• 46:37
  Speaker 13: then became another thing once we got inside and people
• 46:40
  Speaker 13: wanted to know what was y'all talking about, because at
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: that point the go pros were back up.
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: So that's why it kind of became public information.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: What happened on the train, That's what I want to know.
• 46:50
  Speaker 10: Jeds, Well, let me say this, like.
• 46:56
  Speaker 13: What Amue can always take a first class flight, it's
• 46:59
  Speaker 13: a fifty minute over to New York, but at the
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: time we're filming in the winter, a lot of times
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: you want to catch the train to make sure that you're.
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: Not delayed, a lot of flights canceled at that time
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: and stuff like that. So I know a lot of
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: people like to do this about.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: They they don't know the things.
• 47:15
  Speaker 13: What happened on the train is so Ashley and I
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: boarded the train at the same time because we're closer
• 47:21
  Speaker 13: to the DC area, and then as we stop in Baltimore,
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: we picked K up on the corner and she came
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: onto the train and said hi to Ashley, and she
• 47:33
  Speaker 13: kind of just really didn't speak to me, and I
• 47:36
  Speaker 13: was just like, Oh, Okay, I guess we're not speaking.
• 47:38
  Speaker 13: So I guess she trying to warm up for the reunion,
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: because even after the reunion, I talked to K, which
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: I'm so still like at this point.
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: I don't really care.
• 47:46
  Speaker 13: But it's so funny to me that people come on
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: these platforms and they want to pretend to be so authentic,
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: but then the things that they do.
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: Is the furthest thing from authentic.
• 47:56
  Speaker 13: Even when we got on the train, I expected the
• 47:57
  Speaker 13: girl to speak to me because we had had a
• 48:00
  Speaker 13: own conversation before the reunion.
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: When she didn't speak to me, I was like, Oh,
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: she in reunion, MO, she must tell me.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, conversation wasn't recorded.
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: I don't record people.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: They're not that k.
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, let me tell you something. Put me on that
• 48:14
  Speaker 10: line of detect the test, so I can't play this
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: up for real.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, that phone conversation, what we y'all talking about before
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the reunion, were y'all was the strategy? Was it?
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: No, not at all, just kind of recapping all of
• 48:26
  Speaker 13: the things that were in the headlines at the time
• 48:28
  Speaker 13: and just talking to each other about overseason. You know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 13: Rhop was just in the headlines and we just were
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: having a quick conversation.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Eddy situation.
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: It was a lot going on.
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: It was just Rhop in the headlines, how we felt
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: about the season. We had a quick, little cute conversation.
• 48:44
  Speaker 13: So I thought that we were cool. But I also
• 48:46
  Speaker 13: thought that we were cool when I first got back
• 48:48
  Speaker 13: on the platform, and that's when our first little back
• 48:50
  Speaker 13: and forth started as well.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Urban legends. Urban legend has it in my Urban legend,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: mother than Lie.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: That the moment that you appeared on the show this season,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: that KK saw a ghost because allegedly she stole your
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: flute and she felt you were there to steal hers.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 49:19
  Speaker 13: I don't know what was going on in her brain.
• 49:22
  Speaker 13: From what I observed, I came in skipping, I came
• 49:26
  Speaker 13: in happy. I came in not trying to take anybody's sloop,
• 49:29
  Speaker 13: but just to be myself.
• 49:30
  Speaker 10: And bring the energy that I bring to the cast.
• 49:33
  Speaker 13: And at that moment, I do feel like there was
• 49:36
  Speaker 13: immediate insecurity and immediate perception of what she thought I
• 49:42
  Speaker 13: was coming for, which really kind of basically explain her
• 49:47
  Speaker 13: behavior from that moment forward.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Did K steal your flute?
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: Nobody can steal what's for you, so nobody steals anything
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: from me.
• 49:56
  Speaker 13: You know, I didn't sign a housewife contract, so I
• 49:58
  Speaker 13: wouldn't say she stole my flu.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Do you think KK deserves to be your housewife?
• 50:06
  Speaker 10: Listen?
• 50:06
  Speaker 13: I think that these producers are educated, and I think
• 50:10
  Speaker 13: that they know what works for the show. I think
• 50:14
  Speaker 13: that them choosing her to be a housewife for now
• 50:17
  Speaker 13: what her second season was a calculated decision to where
• 50:22
  Speaker 13: they thought.
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: That it might be good. So I think that they
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: did what their professional training told them to do.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Do you think it was the right decision?
• 50:37
  Speaker 13: I think that for what they may have been looking for,
• 50:40
  Speaker 13: which I don't know what that might have been, but
• 50:42
  Speaker 13: I think that for what they would have been looking for.
• 50:44
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they made the right decision.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: My last Question'm gonna turn on to the panel. My
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: thing is that let's have a conversation. First of all,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I love KK.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I love you what I saw at the regunion last night,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say this publicly read my lips refreshers
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: so they can drag me or applaud me. I don't
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: think I'm gonna say something that is going to piss
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: people off.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: And I don't give a damn.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, what I watched last night, Part two reunion, the
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: dynamic between you and KK reminded Carlos King of Season
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: five Kenya and Portia. It was something so entertaining about it.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: It was it was light hearted, shade, it wasn't dark.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: It gave me by Ashy, you know all of that
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Miss America. To me, it was funny.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: You two are young, gorgeous girls, and I just thought
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: as I'm watching it, not only was I entertain, I
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: saw the other girls on the stage. We entertained too,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: And I think there's a place for the two of
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: you to coexist.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I agree, and and I would like to see the
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: two of you there. So that's that's that's my rang.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Joss number comments refreshing Lizzylula, but I will but I
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: want to ask you this, is it disheartening that you,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: who are the wife of a current NFL player, You're
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: at the super Bowl, you fly private, you you have
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: a great life. You even have a little bit of
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: a you know, a messy situation that you and I
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: talked about last.
• 52:28
  Speaker 13: Year with the baby mom that I've always been very
• 52:31
  Speaker 13: genuine and honest about.
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: Talk about it anytime I'm meeting her right now, just
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: so her two days ago.
• 52:36
  Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, so thank you for that opportunity to of course,
• 52:41
  Speaker 13: I love you, girls, But my question.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Is this, and this is and you know, be real,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: not that you aren't, but be real. Is it disheartening
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: that you come with all of his pedigree and you
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: have the husband he is in the super Bowl? He
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you have a luxurious life.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Is it disheartening that you haven't held the flu because
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: you feel like you fitted the bill well?
• 53:08
  Speaker 13: To be honest with you, I feel like not holding
• 53:12
  Speaker 13: a flute just means that that's not what they're looking for.
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: And that's okay.
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: You know, sometimes people assume that because the show is
• 53:20
  Speaker 13: titled the real housewives that they're looking for real housewives,
• 53:24
  Speaker 13: and that's not always the case, you know, sometimes they're
• 53:27
  Speaker 13: looking for single women who are navigating the relationships that
• 53:32
  Speaker 13: they might find, you know, more entertaining.
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: And to me, I genuinely am a woman of faith.
• 53:37
  Speaker 13: I'm here now out of faith based conference because I
• 53:41
  Speaker 13: believe in grounding myself and that's how I move, and
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: I genuinely, in my heart of hearts, believe that what
• 53:46
  Speaker 13: God really has for me is.
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: Never gonna miss me.
• 53:49
  Speaker 13: I'm never gonna be disheartened by a situation that I
• 53:51
  Speaker 13: didn't get or a title that I didn't get, because I.
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: Don't find validity in the show.
• 53:56
  Speaker 13: I find validity in my everyday life and how I
• 54:00
  Speaker 13: live my life on a regular basis, and how I
• 54:02
  Speaker 13: try to be a good person and things like that,
• 54:04
  Speaker 13: So you know, I don't I don't feel disheartened by it.
• 54:07
  Speaker 13: I just feel like, oh, I applied for well, I
• 54:10
  Speaker 13: applied after they you know, reached out to me about
• 54:13
  Speaker 13: uh the drop description and what I assumed that they
• 54:17
  Speaker 13: would be looking for was just not necessarily what they
• 54:20
  Speaker 13: were looking for. I'm a pageant girl, so sometimes you
• 54:22
  Speaker 13: I've been in several pageants where everybody knows I killed it,
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: best body, best talent, best this, that's that. But that
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: doesn't mean that you're gonna take home the crown because
• 54:31
  Speaker 13: sometimes they're just looking for something different that year.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Claudia Blue Dustiny the final questions for jazz.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: Do your friends be telling you that though, because like
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: the homegirls will say, yeah, yeah, I don't know what
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: the friend the.
• 54:49
  Speaker 13: Friends are saying. They really don't know you. Uh, they
• 54:54
  Speaker 13: don't know who you are in real life. They could
• 54:56
  Speaker 13: never uh. They are saying all of the things that
• 54:59
  Speaker 13: the folks send. The people always say, you know, but
• 55:03
  Speaker 13: for me, like, I've been thankful to live a riskful
• 55:06
  Speaker 13: life in real life. So I just be living my
• 55:08
  Speaker 13: real life and then I come on this show and
• 55:10
  Speaker 13: I continue to live my life and continue to be
• 55:12
  Speaker 13: myself and that's a blessing to so I don't have
• 55:14
  Speaker 13: to cosplay this kind of life. I'm here now on
• 55:16
  Speaker 13: the coast of California, like you know what I'm saying
• 55:22
  Speaker 13: in real life, not just a three months out of
• 55:24
  Speaker 13: the year.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: Was nice. That was nice.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I've been a Patriots fan, so I was like a teenager,
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: so I'm from Rhode Island, so welcome to them.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I'm happy that you you decided to come on. Thank
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: you so much.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I do want to read Kea's statement because as a journalist,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure to tell both sides.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: So this is what ke have to say.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: The allegations from tonight's episode cross the line and warrants
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: a response for clarity. I met Greg doing c I
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: double a weekend and twenty twenty two his divorce had
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: already been finalized.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: That timeline is factual and verifiable. There was no overlap.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: We take the protection of our families seriously. False claims
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: that impact our family, especially where children are concerned, are
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: unacceptable and have consequences reality television and vice commentary. It
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: does not justify misinformation or fabricated narratives. Repeating a claim
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: does not make it true. Facts do not change the
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: fit storylines. I will not engage in performative conflict. I
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: will address misinformation directly.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I am not a bench you can ride. The record
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: is clear.
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: Keana slash chat GPT. But Okay, that was beautiful.
• 56:47
  Speaker 13: It really was, and I wish that she had that
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: same energy when it came to me and my family
• 56:51
  Speaker 13: and the things that she was saying and how they
• 56:53
  Speaker 13: misconstrued my whole story when I totally clear as day
• 56:56
  Speaker 13: on your podcast. I wish that those same guile would
• 57:00
  Speaker 13: have been followed. But congratulations on the statement.
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: I got one last question for you, missus, Harris, What
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: the fuck did Keana say about Wendy in the conversation
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: that you haven't shared with the viewers yet.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: We got a lot of questions surrounding that.
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: And if you don't feel like sharing it today, do
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: you plan on telling us at some point in the future,
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: you know, if they want to.
• 57:26
  Speaker 13: Give us a whole scene at another time. You know,
• 57:31
  Speaker 13: if she gets her fifteen minutes extended and I do
• 57:34
  Speaker 13: as well, then I'd.
• 57:35
  Speaker 10: Be happy to share all of the details.
• 57:37
  Speaker 13: But when you have a full on conversation that's over
• 57:39
  Speaker 13: an hour long with someone, the gist of it was
• 57:41
  Speaker 13: she can't be trusted and along with a lot of
• 57:44
  Speaker 13: other things while they were friends.
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: So me sitting down in.
• 57:49
  Speaker 13: Ten minute fifteen minute interview to tell you all of
• 57:52
  Speaker 13: the details just would not.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Be sufficient ad vice.
• 57:55
  Speaker 13: So it's like, basically, while she was Wendy's friends, she
• 57:59
  Speaker 13: was shit talking her and saying you'll see for yourself.
• 58:02
  Speaker 13: Don't trust her she does TV et cetera, et cetera,
• 58:05
  Speaker 13: et cetera.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Who's real friends on the show? Who's like the real friends?
• 58:09
  Speaker 10: YOA, Nobody wouldn't know because because.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, they be hard on it.
• 58:15
  Speaker 13: It's you know, I think that I and I am
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: gonna be honest when I say this, because I feel
• 58:21
  Speaker 13: comfortable with you guys, and I feel like you're a
• 58:23
  Speaker 13: genuine group of people.
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: Some of these women, this is their careers.
• 58:28
  Speaker 13: So when it comes to wanting to protect, maybe how
• 58:32
  Speaker 13: they feed their families, I don't know, just assumption, but
• 58:35
  Speaker 13: when it comes to wanting protect, wanting to protect that
• 58:38
  Speaker 13: they are willing to go to great lens. They are
• 58:40
  Speaker 13: willing to lie, skime and cheat and do whatever else
• 58:43
  Speaker 13: it takes for them to stay on this platform. So
• 58:46
  Speaker 13: I think that people come in with good intentions and
• 58:49
  Speaker 13: then they realize, oh crap, I left my whole security
• 58:54
  Speaker 13: realm of a corporate job, and now this is it.
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: What do I have to do to stay here?
• 59:00
  Speaker 13: And unfortunately that then tends to make friendships kind of
• 59:05
  Speaker 13: difficult to navigate.
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: Jesse, who do you trust the least? I'm curious because
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: you you seem so genuine.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: I can see why someone fraudulent would feel threatened being
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: around you very much.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: So I've been watching you. I'm like, oh, I can
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: fully get while they're scared. Who do you trust the
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: least right now? Currently?
• 59:20
  Speaker 13: You know I the least, I would have to say,
• 59:24
  Speaker 13: anybody that sits on that platform and can look in
• 59:28
  Speaker 13: your face and straight lie like several of them have done,
• 59:32
  Speaker 13: in which, honestly, Stacey and k have looked.
• 59:34
  Speaker 10: In my eyes and told bold face lies that they
• 59:38
  Speaker 10: know we're not true. And those kind of people scare me.
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: Those kind of people scare me.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I see it's getting dark and yell and Jazzy,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I love you, honey, thank you so much for hopping in.
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, having.
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: So much.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Jazzy and KK back. I want round two.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 10: Yes, let's send those fifteen minutes.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 13: Okay, though they can give me two.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: Okay, give my love to your to your hobby, Okay,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: I will, thanks guys.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: Thanks, Yeah, I get the next fifteen going.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Wow, talk about round two of that, so listen, we
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: had to start off that way.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I want to get into the reunion. It picked up
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: with Ashley versus Wendy. You know, Ashley made her comment
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: about I got one social Security number and then Wendy
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: gave me nothing, and they talked about, well, what you said,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I do too, and she said, well it says six
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: to seven six seven, you.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Know, which they.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Made sure to show a headline that Wendy allegedly has
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: sixty seven credit cards.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Blue.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: What did you think about that whole dynamic between Ashley
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and Wendy as they were talking about her Wendy's current situation.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: I think Ashley has unintentionally admitted that the same shenanigans
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: that got her airtime are not working anymore. I think
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: she agrees with us because even when she was trying
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: to bait Wendy, she had that zinger and I now
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: see why she was the cliffhanger, because they're very much
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: plummeted right afterwards.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 9: Like Wendy is really good at starving the girls.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: She'll starve you.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: She'll she'll see you have a moment and she won't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 8: help you feed it. And I do feel that, honestly
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 8: looking at the text messages that Stacy revealed between her
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: and Ashley, that Ashley is hurt because she thinks Wendy
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: thinks she's better than her.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I don't, actually I don't.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: I don't tend to give Ashley Darby too much grace
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: because of the things that she does, that she's a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: professional bonk carrier. But I do think that Ashley has
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: always felt judged by Wendy, and now that Wendy is
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 8: having what she perceived to be an impending demise, she's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: reveling in it, and Wendy is starving her.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Wendy is starving her. I would like to start her
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: as well. That second was too long.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 9: We didn't need that much, goddamn Ashley.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: That's my it was. It was about five minutes and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: it was four and a half minutes too long for me.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: That is my favorite. I actually agree with you long.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Nobody's that much, Ashley.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I purposely watched Potomac KIM when I ate I was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: home son last night.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: I watched around eight fifteen, so I can like fast
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: for a little bit. I did fast forward through Ashley's package.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: I read the captions.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Dustin, because we knew she because she don't got none,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: like Wendy said, we knew she ain't gonna be talking
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: about shit, right.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: I think that Ashley had prepared her. So she did
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: say in the interview, and.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: She was asked about the Sharis shit, she was like, well,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: I'll be at the reunion and I'll be sitting on ready,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: She said that, and so you could tell she had
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: prepared some stuff.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: But I'm gonna tell you you can always tell when
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: Ashley goes off script, because like the six seven thing
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: was obvious a callback to the recent trend of the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: six seven shit that's you know, been all over and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: a callback to also the sixty seven credit cards.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: But when she goes off script, it's gone.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: An example of that is when she started speaking about
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: dating a congressman and Stacey was like, well, you are history,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: please you know what I'm saying. And she was like, what,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: I am a very upstanding member. And I say that
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: with a Kapa told you, a Kappa told you. You
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: can tell she was just reaching for anything to be
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: said at the moment because Stacey had.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Called her off guard.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: So I don't know, you know what I'm saying. I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: feel like, actually she does. She's been there since day one.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 7: She's a willing potster and that's a necessary component to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: the cast. So while she may not be my favorite
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: person on the show, and I don't trust her at
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: all as a viewer.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: I still think Ashley needs to be there.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: I think that her brand of what she does is necessary.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: It's similar to Toya Bush Harris so married to medicine.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: You know that they're going to hit the gas, you know, yes.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Hold dustin, I love it you and I disagree Toya Bush.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Listen, twelve seasons in Toya busch hair still gives you
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: something outside of being the first multiplier. I think Ashley
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: started off strong, and I think Ashley the problem Ashley
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: is this and rain Jows tell me y'all disagree YouTube
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Claudia and Blue.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I just think.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: I think Ashley without Michael is not an interesting person.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Agree, I just, I just I think.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: But Toya without Eugene is interesting, right because Toya Toya
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: is somebody that Am and Dusk recapitals on my Patreon
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: check it out. We had a good time doing it, Toya,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: even when Heavenly Herbert was heavily was attackonizing Toy. Yeah,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Toya surprised me and dusted by not giving it anything.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like Ashley, like Candice said.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Will go you know and drop the bone and go
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: back home.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: So I think the thing with some of the girls Potomac,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: even Giselle saying, oh conference a politician, if I was
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: talking about me. I think the problem with this and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: it's a problem with reality stars. You gotta be more
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: than just a shade assassin. You need me. You know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Meeni Leaks is the greatest housewife ever because Meani Leaks
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: was a shade assassin. She was funny, she was You
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: saw her go through some of you saw her divorce
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: with Greg Lee's rest in peace.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: You saw her crime when her shred got into it.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: But you also saw her read a girl.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: You also saw her get read you also, you saw
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: all these complex things, say people to Mesa Judies.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: My point is, I think the reality girls and and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: and it is one of it is.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of you girls think and I'm
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: telling you you're going to get fired thinking this way.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: You're going to get fired reality stars who are currently
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: on television if you continue to think this way.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Be more than just shady, Be more than just stirring
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: the pot.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: That is that is that is thirty five percent of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: your job as reality star.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: We want to see something real.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: And I think the problem that I will say I'm
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: seeing more and I think this Part two reunion exposed it.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Some of you girls think because I mess you, I'll
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: read I actually still have my flu.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: And that's why for me, when you look at Wendy
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: and Stafty and you look at you really do get
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: a chance to see.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: You know, I think there's a lot more similarities between
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: Ashley and Toya than we're making note of.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Right, mh.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: They both don't do ship but the show. Let's stop there,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Both of them don't do
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: nothing but the show. They both have written children's books, right,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: you see, actually had a children's book on the reinion.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Toyo wrote a children's book. Right.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: Both of them been on their cast since day one, right,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: Both of them willing to do and say anything and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: arguments are in the heat of the moment to keep
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: the engine going.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: Right, both of them talk to that.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 7: You see how Toya be cussing Eugene ass out left
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: and right to the point where.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: He'll go in a reaction because he's that.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: Right, we see Ashley Ashley cuts that boy out that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: she was dating and embarrassed him at the where was
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: they at? David Busters team, and she cussed him out there.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: They both are just willing to do that. They both
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: had on short reunion dress. It's just a lot of
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: similarities there. Both got two boys.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of similarities there that I think you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: don't realize, bro. Just something to think about, that's all right,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: Just something to think about, That's all I'm saying.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Again, what you say again?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: I'm crying, Claudia Jordan, what are your thoughts?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: I think that I hear a lot from y'all and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: other people like Ashley ain't given much this and the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: other not exciting without the husband.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: Was actually the youngest housewife ever.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know about ever ever, I don't know, but
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: she was definitely one of the youngest. Correct. She was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: definitely the youngest that started for me for sure.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: How long was she with that husband, Michael Darby.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: I can tell you right now. Well, listen to Ashley's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: thirty seven. She was married to Michael Darby. Give me
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: one second, Claudia, like to make sure. They divorced in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: favorite twenty five. They were married since twenty fourteen, so
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: they were together for eleven years.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, I just want to give a little perspective on this. Again,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: I'm a outside home. I haven't watched it, like yo,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: all these years. I don't have nothing against none of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: these girls.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: I really don't.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: I just feel like it's a lot of on her
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: to bring this, bring that, bring this. A large part
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: of her life was being a married woman to this man,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: and there is some adjustment that does have to Like,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: you're not gonna just all of a sudden just like
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: get divorced a couple of years later.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, you just have all this stuff.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: I just I'm just offering a little bit of a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: different take on it as far as, like, you know,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: getting it together.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: I was married for four months.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: I was messed up for like three years over because
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: I couldn't believe I did that right. And I just
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: I think that, yes, she's not main character energy like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: some of the other girls. And yeah, of course, right,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: they're not all gonna be that. I think on a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: successful show, it would be exhausting to have five Mimi leagues,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: So five Giselle's or five you know, Wendy's.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: That's why the shows are good.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Like you have your favorites, you have the people that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: are just kind of fillers a little bit, but they're necessary.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: They also move things along or they stir the pot
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: when you be they go in this role players like
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: on a basketball team, you know you have a point
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: guard and they're not all point guards. You know you
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: have people on it that are not the strongest player.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: It's necessary. I think she does provide something. She kind
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: of stirs up. She's willing to do the things that
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: were like, oh, she's annoying, but it keeps people talking
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: about I think Potomac is it's very entertaining. I probably
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: wouldn't want to be on that show because they work
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: for their goddamn checks, including Ashley, Like, she may not
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: have the man right now, and she is doing some
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: weird shit. I can definitely agree with y'all on that,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: with the son and all.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: That kind of stuff.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: She's doing some weird stuff, but it's part of a
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: team that ends up being a very successful show that works.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: Like with all those parts that.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: Are in it right now, I don't feel like even
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: with the lack of the dating storyline or whatever, I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: still feel like she's she is part of the show
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: that it makes it great. She's the best character on
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: the But I'm like Okay, she does some shit that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: makes be like, what.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: Question, Claudia, Because you you started watching this season, right,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: this is like your first season watching the show.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: I saw some like a couple of years back when
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: I was in the Slane, I did a whole like
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: I think I was there for like five hours, you know,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: and it was a couple of times we did that.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: But yeah, as far as like weekly you know, loyally
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: working watching every week, yes.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, so like knowing you right, and I think this
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: is actually something that you and I have in common. Right.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: We like to get people a fair shot, and we
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: like to root for the underdog when it's deserving, right,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: when they deserve the support we do that. Do you
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: feel like, based on you you starting to watch the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: show that this season like full time or whatever, you
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: feel like actually get a lot of like hate and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: like negative comments and stuff, and you feel like, do
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: you look at her as like the underdog of this season?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: From your view?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: I think there's a few not not as much maybe not.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: Her, you know what I'm saying. When you watch this season,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: what do you do you feel like, damn she the underdog?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: Like she ain't as as people say she is? Is
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: that how you feel when you watch this season or
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: how do you feel?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: I can see her being annoying to people. I'm not blunt.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: I could see her being like people being like, all right,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: actually that's enough. But I also think, like there's every
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: franchise has annoying people on them.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: If we're going to keep it a buck, there's.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Not I think. I think the difference is this, She's
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: been on the show for.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Twelve consecutive season and my head listen, I was let
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: me not announce it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: I'll have to go first.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: I was talking to a former housewife who has a podcast,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: and she asked me, do I think that some housewives
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: should be on the show for a certain amount of
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: time and then have a break, And I said, I
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: actually think yes, unless unless it's somebody that is interesting
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: enough to really warrant still being there.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of girls from reality to.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: TV now that deserves a break because they you have
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: to miss it and you have to come back with something.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: I think the problem is actually, I agree with all
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: of you guys, right, She's a necessary evil. I'm gonna
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: calling her EVO. She is necessary for sure.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: But I can find twenty five thousand ashletes of my dms,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: and they DM me Carl don't know how to read,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, so it's not easy to find an
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: OG to be replaced with another woman that's thirty seven.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: That can read.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: I think Ashley, who brought so much greatness to the show,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: should understand what it feels like to be removed from
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: it and listen, no shade to her shit the only
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: one and I'll just leave it at that.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: The reason why I think a lot of us m sorry,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: I think the reason I mean, he's not wrong, though,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: but go ahead, go ahead, you know.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I think the reason why a lot of us love
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Stacey is she's a breath of fresh air and we
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: get to get something new. I like Keana. I think
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: she's great. I don't see the half of her, but
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: that's just me. I like Jazzy, I mean is great.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: I think Angel had potential. I think I think Angel.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I think Angel should have come with more due process.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: But my point is, I just think that for OG,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: you gotta be more than just reading me.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: I honestly don't think that she is a necessary evil.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: I think she's redundant.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Afterthought, Okay, you can.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 9: See your point in a world full of Stacy's.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: Honestly, even angel if Angel and Jazzy and Kiana get
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: into some weird, interesting kerfuffles and Stacy's there to spread.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: Confusion and interesting performative.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: Lies, and Wendy is hopefully out of the clink Clink
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: and Giselle's just being dead mother. I could see he
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: is still enjoying the show without actually because I kept
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 8: forgetting she was on the show until she had to
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 8: go to Chuck E Cheese to do her manditary quota.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: And in the same way we acted like we needed
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 8: Robin Dixon it was gonna be the end in the world.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 9: I haven't miss Robinson she left. I haven't miss Robinson
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 9: she left.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: So I think if Ashley was to leave, because she's
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 8: left several episodes, in my opinion, I don't think it'd
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: be as big of an.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: Impact as we're stated.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: I think we're being kind, but I do think she
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: needs a break. I think she's tired, but her ego
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: won't let her say it, and that somebody has to
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: let her out to pasture and let make her come back,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: like Monique did.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 9: I think two years off, I might actually miss Ashley.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 9: Let me miss you agree.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: I want to miss you.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: I want to miss you.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Speaking of somebody that came back, Monique came back with
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: her binder and she revealed some information about Stacy that
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: clip hung the reunion.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Dustin, I'll start with you on this one. Where are
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on Moniques come back this season, bringing back the.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Binder at the reunion, and then having information about Stacey that.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: That she has to allegedly expose.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: Her with us.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 7: I'm glad that she gave us a chance to say
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: our last words to the binder. I hope that it
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: is put to rest after this. They should probably keep
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: it in the Bravo clubhouse or maybe put it on
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: display a Bravo constance. Monique is back into the zeitgeist now,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: but we don't need to see that no more. Okay,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: they didn't live where it's being I also think that
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: it was strategic, you know what I'm saying on Monique's behalf.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: I think that Moniques returned to this series. She's had
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: a very strategic, methodical approach to her housewife, Rie, you
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, And I think that it's worked
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: because people have you know, it appears that people in
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: her group are expressing that they feel her change.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: It's been sincere you know what I'm saying. So that's good.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: It's a new Monique. I'm glad to have her back.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: That's how I feel. But I don't want to see
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: that motherfucking binder no more. We don't need no more props.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: None of that Monique was at her as a housewife,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: when she was in the heat of the moment, reacting
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: to certain stuff or flossing her wealth, you know what
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: I'm saying. So we just need her to show us
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: a little bit of that. But whatever that new part
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: of her personality looks like, then I'd be happy.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: Claudia.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: I don't think it was she was used right or
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: it was. I feel she's so much more than what
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: she was a season.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: I like her.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: I think she's dope. I think she's beautiful. I think
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: she's cool to how she's saw a girl that I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: would want to hang out with.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: But I felt like wamp and I'm putting it on
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: the producers, not even her. I just felt like she
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: could know. I don't know.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: I just was like, but I wan't blame the produce.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'll work on the show. But I
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: just want to know why you were blame the producers,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: that's all Claudia.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: Because we seen her be like big on these shows.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: We seen her be like, I don't.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: Know, I just feel like they It's like when you
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: have a base football team and you get the best
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: coin or you had a good ass quarterback from the team,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: then you don't know, like you don't play them right.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: I just felt like it didn't land.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: Like I want to see more from her because I
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: like her, and I feel like we spent a lot
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: of time on everybody else. But I'm just like, it
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: was definitely bill to be big for her coming back right,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: and then I think it kind of.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: Fell a little flat.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: But I like personally for her, And please don't take
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: this as into the audience watching as me having any
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: kind of hate for because I don't. I'm saying I
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: really like her, one of my favorite people out there,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: like I like her a lot. I just felt like
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: it just didn't it didn't land, And I'm just like,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: I think we spent too many episodes in Colorado, too
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: many episodes talking about Angel where I don't know, I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: think there's a lot of darkness in her life. With
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: her divorce that she's trying to avoid.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: I just was like it felt a little awkward.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: And I hope for next season she's back that I
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: want to see her dating.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: I want to see her start restarting her life, like
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: getting back into the swing of things with her life,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: because I think she just has I think she has
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: a lot to give and I want to see more
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: from her.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: I really do.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: Get overkilled with the Binder, like they were like, you know,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: like that was dope what you did the first time.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: I ironically think that Monique probably bought the binder that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 8: she with you. She's like, let me remind them of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: what made me legendary, So I think it might have
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: been her attempt at being nostalgic. I actually agree with
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: Claudia and Dustin about how I want to see her back.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: I do not think she was utilized.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 8: I do think that the return on investment of the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 8: hoopla around her was low, Like, I don't think we
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 8: got what we were expecting. I also am tired of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 8: the other girls trying to weaponize her ex husband against Stacy,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: But Moniqu's the one who's paying for it. You try
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: to use this man to make Stacy look bad. Instead's
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: now going to court because he keeps coming up, and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 8: so they just need to find a new storyline for
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: her that doesn't include did Stacey seep with your ex husband?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: Did Stacey do what with your ex husband? Nobody cares
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 8: about that man except for Cookie.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: Right Like, we need to let it go. She is,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: I'm so tired of hearing about this man.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: If there was a drinking game and we have the cookie,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: everybody would be drugs.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: I think they didn't handle that stuff with the Chris
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: Daniel thing, like if you're gonna bring it up, bring
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: it up and make it big, get into it, bring
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: it up.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: It was kind of like, oh, drop a bomb.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 9: Oh she went out with Chris, and I was like, Okay,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 9: they kept trying to make Fetch happy.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: That's what it felt like.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 10: I would.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: Chris.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: Chris Samuel's mad at Monique right now because of Charissa
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 7: ass When they was.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: In the scene and she called him, she she had
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: that damn phone out.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 7: She okay, I'm calling them now. She called hey, Chris
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 7: and sharifs. He basically said, what you know what I'm saying,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: and then she said she ran down that matsy ass
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 7: a scenario and then he gonna say, what.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: The hell you? I ain't got nothing to do with
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: that ship y'all got going on. She's like, okay, bye,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: hung up. And Monique been catching hell, Natalie Cole said
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: ever since.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: So you know what I'm saying to me, Monique and
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: Monique and Charis already had beef because of that season
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: five ship.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: If Monique come back to the show, let her fight
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: Charisse this time.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, listen for the comments. My dream pat is this
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: and I'll save it, you know what, I'll save it
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: for part three. But I'll just say Charis is a
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: part of that. I want some real and Chariz and
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: and all of that. Like I want to see that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't care.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: To see the the mudane. I don't care. But what
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: I will say is.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I thought Angel's reunion performance was fine.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Blue bath of what.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, bath y'alls, I can't say nothing. Angel
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: did a good job based on what was presented to her.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: We haven't seen part three yet, but Dustin, I really
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: thought she did a good job making sure she inserted herself.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: And into what that.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: Was like?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 8: Did she inswered herself into Carlos, She got shushed four times,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: got called what they call her Edward James almost or something,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: and then.
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  Speaker 9: Like, what exactly are you appl Are we getting like
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 9: participation awards?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: Wendy said, I might have, I might have a different
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 7: name on them packages, but you gonna know exactly who
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: the sender.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: Was with this, James Earl Jones. You know what I'm saying, that.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: We applauding Carlos. I need you to finish the set.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: I'm confusion, what exactly hear me out? Hear me out
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: what I mean?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 14: Claudia. I think I did really help you with this,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 14: because Claudia knows what is Claudia topt me her lion.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: That reunion, that reunions are intense, and sometimes it's hard
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: for you to get a word in edgewise because.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: Especially as a new girl, you said what especially as
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: a new girl.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: As a new girl, so my, so maybe I should
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: have added context. My apologies, Blue and Dustin. I thought, okay,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: I thought, as a new girl who wasn't to me
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: both over the whole season, I thought she did a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: good job of making.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: Sure she was hurt.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, saying what that's the thing.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: I was funner.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 8: She made a new word, guy's funner. She said, I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 8: wish I was funner this season. That's all she got
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 8: from everything she watched was that she should have been funner.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: Did y'all clock when Monique was talking about when they
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: were talking about Monique kind of interfering or stepping in
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: and comparing her relationship with her with Chris, with Angels
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: and her and Bobbies, and you know, the whole deal
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: was being made about, you know, comparing your inserting your
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: life you don't know me like that. But then it
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: was revealed that Angel did say to Monique like she
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: took it to the side. I was like, yeah, I
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: want to talk to you about it, like that's again
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: being fake, being fake, like you actually did find some
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: common ground with her, but on camera, you just so
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: appalled that she had the nerve to think that there
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: were some commonality between y'all, But it seemed like she
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: no cameras weren't rolling. She did feel like, you know what,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: you could be someone like to talk to, And I
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: just felt like it was unnecessarily kind of like coming
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: from Monique in that part because and that's.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: Why Claudia, thank you for bringing up that's why.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: I remember I said to y'all weeks ago, I said, look,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: in Monique's defense, what I saw.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't think Monique was projecting the rain jots read me.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I thought Monique, being a former Wag, saw similarities. And
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: I do believe if you ask a current or former WAG,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: you will see similarities in the way things work. I
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: saw similarities myself just being a producer and working with
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Wags or former wags. So and it doesn't mean that
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Bobby's a bad person. I don't think he's a bad
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: person at all. I just think at the end of
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: the day, they have a dynamic that works for them,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: like all relationships should.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: But I'm glad you about Claudia.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 8: I love Angel, Claudia of Monique, Chris Samuels, Bobby and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 8: what's that girl?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Angel?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: There we go.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: The more thing I liked about Angel, I'll give her
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: credit when her Monique were having the back and forth,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 8: and Monique was like, Bobby, I know Bobby gott be
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 8: for me because I said hello to him. He looked
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: right at me and kept them walking. She's like, he
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: wasn't being rude. He was like, she was like, no,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 8: he was being rude. I saw a glimmer of Angel
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 8: having a purpose on the show, right, I saw a
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 8: glimmer of, oh, okay, if her and Monique maybe could
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 8: work through the whole whatever that thing.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 9: Is of them being wags like big Mama Wag and baby.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: Wag, it could be interesting.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 8: I actually think Monique is more student to be for
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 8: Angel what Giselle was supposed to be. In her mind,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: she wanted Gizelle to be her big sister. I think
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 8: Monique is a better big sister for her. I just
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 8: think that she's gonna mess it up. I don't think
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: it's gonna last, but I think it'd be a good attempt.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: Don't find the words no, thank you?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, but I do get what you're saying calls about
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: like you know, you like you don't have a lot
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: of skinning the game with all the other girls' stories, right,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: so you're gonna you don't have a whole bunch of
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: you don't have like deep relationships with these people. You
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: don't have a season before this and a season before that.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: You don't have multiple seasons, so I have, like you know,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: like I said, skinning the game with these other women.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: So you kind of jump in when you can. But
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: whenever she did jump in, she did get shure, she
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: got shut down. Even her own homegirl was like.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: I'm talking, I'm speaking, I'm speaking, I got this. I
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 6: don't need you to defend me. I'll defend myself.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 8: And I was like, oh, she was getting happening. It
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 8: keeps that's a new defended k but it keeps happening
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 8: for and it's not a fluke.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: I ain't on the couch. I don't give a fuck.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 7: All I know is you know what I'm saying. Would
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: nobody be cussing me the fuck out? I can tell
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 7: you that. And furthermore, I wouldn't be allowing nobody to
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: do that. So to me, that's you know, boohoo, boo hoo. Cribaby,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 7: what did Jocelyne sayabyaby? Second Mama Diddy?
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: Like, it's hard out here for everybody. You know what
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: I'm saying. Everybody was the first time doing something. You
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Everybody on that couch had the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: first season. I think that something. Things are just not
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 7: good fits for certain people. I don't want to see
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 7: nobody lose their job, so I'm not advocating. I'm not
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 7: one of those viewers that be like I need that goal.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: That ain't me.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying I was thoroughly underwhelmed by Angels reunion performance.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 7: You know, I'll just say that that's it, especially that
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 7: part you have to.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: Use me example, like you do she like like that
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, you Angel, you gotta she
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: at least gotta look. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: I wanted to go in there and grab speaking to TMJ,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: I wanted to grab her jaw be like no you
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: look at her, stand.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: Up at it like you know, all right.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you to the summer thousand people who joined tonight,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: Claudia Blue, That's what I love you, guys.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: We are back next week to recap part three of
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: the reunion.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: channel at the Carlos King Underscore