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NFL Combine Standouts and FSU Baseball · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, north Florida Sports Network.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: North Florida Sports Network.
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• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, plug them back.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: It's the North Florida Sports Network, the North Florida Sports Network.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Bring it in the air.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: It's on the way it's, on the way it leaves everywhere.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: One minute they're there, and you get them up and they're still there.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: It's not every day.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: What a combine that was, though.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Huh, really was.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: It showed you what Josh Storms can do.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: It showed you what this program's been up to the last four years.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: It's just working, putting in work every day as hard as you can go, getting a little bit better yeah it really is man, and we talked about the defensive guys, fiske and Verst particularly, but we didn't touch on the the offensive guys.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: Well, they had yet to go.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: They have now.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: Right and Trey Benson running a 4-3-9.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: 216 pounds.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson Dude four-five, 231 pounds.
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Longest wingspan Seven foot two wingspan.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: Longest wingspan ever recorded on a wide receiver at the combine.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I already liked Johnny Wilson.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: He was my guy.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: He was the third day.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: He was Jordan Travis's guy.
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I meant to say.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: You could really see it time and time again on third down.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: Third down was his down, and when it really needed to come up with a big play, johnny Wilson came through two years.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: He was that guy, even with Keon Coleman on the team.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: So, keon Coleman, the 40 time wasn't.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: Disappointing.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was 4-6 is disappointing, but he moved so smoothly through every other drill.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: If you look at that drill in particular, where they run and getting the balls are thrown at them, they're running down the line.
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: that one Right.
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: He did that the fastest and the straight line.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's going to make his money in the red zone.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: That guy's going to make his money one on one contested catches.
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think late first round is where you're going to find him getting snack.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man Trade bets and it depends on what they put.
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: How much emphasis is running back going to get in this draft?
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: If you're looking for one, though, he's got it the whole package.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: He really does.
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  Speaker 1: He's got the playmaking ability.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: He's got the catching ability he can block.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: He's got the size, the speed.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: When you see that speed and you put the tape on and you see the ability to absorb contact and keep running Right and keep accelerating.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: You get someone late in the first round where you're going to use him, you can use him in so many ways.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: You've got to have multiple backs.
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: So that position is such a position where you don't put a lot of.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: I can dream where they just 49ers just give up on the Elijah Mitchell experiment and take drape pins at the end of the first round.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: Prepare him with Christian McCaffrey, that would be great.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll do it.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, he looks kind of like a Moser kind of that's trackability.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect him to run that I thought maybe under 4-5 would be big for him.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not really shocked, though it matches if you watch the games, though Because he broke away and once he gets to the end.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: He's got that elite breakaway speed.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: So it's going to you see that time and it's not going to look any different when you go watch the certain tape.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: He's not going to hurt himself.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: He didn't hurt himself at all, if you want to say the 40 time for Keon Coleman.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: That's really the only disappointment out of any anybody at the combat.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: You know that I think he showed showed himself fine in the other drills.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's gonna Really affect him that much layer.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: It's about to go get it, but um Well, there was a 40 time for the record book and that's Xavier worthy.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: A 4, 2, 1 right fastest time ever.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: That's Incredible, incredible.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins is another 4, 2, 8.
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, defensive, back from cliff.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, we saw when we played in this year that guy was a pro actually right, he doesn't go out of the game, and they had to replace him and then keep on.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: they went right after him, yeah.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great matchup, that whole game him and was, but Jerry and Jones were Florida State, another guy that surprised me with how, how fast three, eight.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Take a minute here for the for the defense and just, you know every position that we had represented at the defense.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: I think we had defensive in defensive, tackle, linebacker and corner.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: For some reason the Keem didn't didn't make it.
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, get an invite to the combine, but All those positions.
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: Florida State has somebody in the top five of the 40 yard dash, so you're talking about speed on every level of defense right, I mean, and those guys are verse Fisk.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Delo, it's your starters, it's your I tell you what, and I know?
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, fans don't, but we got Ricky Pearsall for Florida.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I think he's a good player in 441.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, really good.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he could already catch and route run he's gonna right Florida has got, they got guys that are good.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Pearsall is gonna make that be a good pick there.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody it really is.
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at teams like teams like the Rams, but teams that got there.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of receivers coming out.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: You know that you can find a lot of talent.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: Right right, pearsall.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: What's gonna limit him is just his size, his height.
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the day too.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll go day two.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: Somebody will go take him in here, definitely, definitely, he'll be productive.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: You very.
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  Speaker 1: He can be very productive.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: You have Just everywhere across the board.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: Top was a top five top five linebacker you had to loach.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: He's in the top five of the 40, right, you know Fisk, verse, cornerback, jerry and Jones.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: It would have been interesting to see a keen dent get an invite to the combine.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: See how he tested, you know, at the way early to reprobably.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him out Just in the season on a flight tape on him.
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: I know he was in.
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: He was in some mock drafts before this past season started have pro days, yeah him and him and Robert Scott were the two guys that were getting a lot of.
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: These next, these next.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: Because the draft still what, two months away.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be, it'll be.
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, my god.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: I mean we got to talk about the quarterbacks.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: I mean the quarterbacks there's there's no Reason to really pay attention to it until draft day, unless you're just there's gonna be the trade nerd for the draft stuff.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Trades, yeah, trades, that's the interesting part, right to see what happens to with you know, justin Fields, you know, and that situation in Chicago.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: You know Jimmy Jr Wants to hang on to him, right.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: but that's, that's Based, nothing off of you know, like it's only sentimental and and thinking from his heart man, just because he likes Justin Fields, like you think you can upgrade by taking Caleb Williams.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: You got to do it right, do you?
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: What do I think?
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: I think and let it does.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter unless you have somebody You've seen enough out of.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: Justin Fields we have, but are you gonna ever have an?
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: offensive line that's worth the shit.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the bigger issue.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Well then you keep Justin Fields.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you drive you think Caleb Williams?
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think Caleb Williams can win now and let you build an offensive line around him.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: That's.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: I think, if you're gonna take quarterback, I think he got.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: I think you can win now?
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly with the Bears, they'd look Pretty close.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: They did, they had some disasters on defense.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: Man Like what was going on with the coaching staff on that side of the ball.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: It's the first part of the year.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: Again, they got it.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: It's hard to put that on on the players as much as it is the guys running the show expectation coaches a lot, yeah, I.
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: Don't know, I don't know, man, but it it's, it's a business.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: So everybody wants the new hot thing.
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I would predict that they probably end up trading.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: I can't take it all the draft type, that's it.
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: I mean this was this was fun to see because it was a lot.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of nulls in the combine.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: I was very interested in seeing that.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: But After this, I mean there you'll see some pro days, some of the quarterbacks and didn't you know?
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, williams, you want to see him throw, I guess, but it's just a bunch of wait for the draft.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: They push it back to every year.
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's two, that's too long.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: It really is like too much after the combine.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: It needs to be at the end of March.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: Right or push the combine back like they don't know if I'm we're just like leaving out in another month, oh no we got to go on vacation and then come back and put our notes together, oh goodness it's so much in so much time You're gonna have to waste now, so I'm done with that, you know.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was baseballs in the air now.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: You know I got my kids starting to play practices going on again.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: You know everybody's got their kids out there.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: They, you know college baseball, florida State 10 and 0.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: What Nice little start season 10 and 0 link Jared over there.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dick, I see you.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they, uh, I mean, they're better, I think, than last year.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so far.
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: You hope so.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: What are you seeing so far?
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: I think I got a good lineup man.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: I think they can, they can, they can swing it this year.
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: All right, last year they had two or three guys that can Could hit.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: This year it looks like they got a a full lineup's worth of guys that you can count on, at least to have a chance.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm, like they're not gonna be one of those dynamite just set an offensive records left and right, but they're gonna win games for you right, it's about winning yeah.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think that the pitching is is where they want it.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Hopefully maybe a little bit more consistent than last year.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have a dominant ace.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Okay bullpen is out lighters kid.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he can be, but he's, he's inconsistent.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: You know he's.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: He's a young kid.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, walk walks are the problem.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, with all of them.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Jamie Arnold is the, the kid that's looked the best early, but they, like I said, they can hit.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Man, they can hit.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: They got some more power.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: They got that for a kid to come back home, so it.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: You got to be able to score runs.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah you got to be able to score runs.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you can't and you hope the pitching can come along right, it was fun.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I saw the game the other night.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: They were you know.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: They were able to slug it out.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Illinois.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a game last year than I.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably lose.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: So it's good to see that they're getting better.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: I mean it's 10 and O's yeah, there's one of five undefeated teams left in D1, you know Louisiana, tech, tcu, texas A&M, uc, irvine, florida State.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: A couple of the polls have Florida State ranked, you know, from like 19 to 24, something like that.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: Um, but Now you don't need to worry about that.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: No, you don't do it.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: Rankings are just ridiculous in baseball.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: Um, they have such a huge field in the post season.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: That's all you really got to worry about.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: It's important to win games and losses are to prevent bad losses Right.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Saw it in basketball is killing that basketball team.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: It kind of hurts you.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: And this was a this past tournament.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: They went and played in in Greenville.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Uh, at the Greenville drive.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Stayed in.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you took care of business.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a game like you know.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, you played Michigan, illinois, michigan state, I'm sorry, in Western Michigan, uh, but you know what?
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, it's your first road series of the week.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: You face the ace of all three of those.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: Face the adversity in the games and you came out on top.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: That's a good sign.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you went to a neutral side.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: That's a good, some good experience for the team early in the season.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: As you know, like what you see so far, excited to get out there and watch them.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Watch them play.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: They, they, yeah, I.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: I like the energy of the team a lot better than the past.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Definitely the past two years with with meat Um, last year was just kind of up and down.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: You got some transfers to come in?
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Drew Ferro um, adam Ferro's son, uh, came in from UCF.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Max Williams, jackson West, both came in from Alabama.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: You got Jordan Cantu came in from South Florida.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Alex Lodez Lodez, I don't know, came in from North Florida, I think, um it.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah they, they brought in a bunch of kids that I think probably had a good chance at being in Florida state.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Had 11 continued to be the coach, had there not, I mean just, kids that you can, only you can speculate, yeah, yeah.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: But just more along the lines of the kids that you would have seen playing at FSU in the in the past and you add that to what you had.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Um, cam Smith, james Tibbs, jaime Ferrer, a few other guys may have a DMS Ross He'd like.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: those are kids, that are Tibbs is a baller.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tibbs, tibbs can hit, he can hit Ferrer hit one out of the stadium yesterday.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Um Smith is leading the team.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: He's hitting 478.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: If Smith's consistently hitting drives yeah.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Got Ross at the leadoff spot is I mean?
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Taylor made for leadoff yeah.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: And you guys, younger guys younger guys that don't play right now, that are promising young freshmen.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it's just if you can, if your guy comes out and you're searching for it.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: You know you're trying to find the the pitching right now yeah, and as a team, your guy comes out, hey, you don't have it tonight, Don't worry about it, we're going to keep grinding out here and we can come back and get this win and that that says a lot.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: That gives your pitching staff more confidence to go out there.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: And confidence, Just give it everything they have Takes pressure off.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, takes pressure off throughout.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: We're going to get your back.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: And that that that builds man.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: When, when it's weekend after weekend of damn like I got to go out there and be perfect on the mound because you know we can't get any runs.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: So like yeah, line up, start, consistent lineup.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the difference maker so far tips Tibs has been.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Tim's has been hitting home runs since he stepped on campus.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: I think he had 17 last year.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I'm Georgia Tech Jack, like for.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Drew Burris.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: He's got 10 home runs in first 10 games.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like four in a row for in a row for in one game.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Think he's listed at five foot nine 175 pounds on it.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean they, I mean dude.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: He's just one of those phenoms.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I think he's ranked the number 18 player coming out of high school overall.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: One of those dudes that probably Could have gone first couple rounds, but it was pretty dead set on going to Georgia Tech and he does.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: May just mash, is it?
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: We'll see him at the end of the season, season finale for Florida State here in Tennessee gonna say Just a couple of more highlights that we didn't get to verse 31 reps.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very impressive everything the four five, nine, two.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I mean like how.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Everything he did.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: When you put that to with the two years of tape like it's not just he's not just a Combine warrior like you put on tape and watch him.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: He's getting better.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you watch him push 330 pound offensive linemen into their quarterback right.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Ragdoll them.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why FSU fans were mad, because they I mean ugly teams have been champions before.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the Giants with Bill Parcells?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: You?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Know I'll add another thing with the speed, like Alabama, some Alabama's teams they didn't have good quarterback play right.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: It's one position that the narrative that was pushed is that you know Jordan Travis is carrying this team full of you know, just just yeah, and you can see that how, how up front in particular at that, at that combine we talked about those two to show stars and showed out on defense in particular, they took over right and then you saw how the offense still had playmakers on it right, and that's another thing about speed.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: You you talk about trade.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Benson Jehebel was also top five for tight ends in the 40 right Benson, same thing with running backs ball security to for the speed Is is something that for some reason, florida State kind of People like I, they can't.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: They can't match speed with these, these teams, or they can't match power and, like you just saw, at the mm-hmm.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: There's I, just it should make you angry all well, people will never forget.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: We move on, but yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Just kind of talk about those players, and together, though, that was almost like their last right little and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, like you compare that to Going out there and playing against Georgia.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: What what really proves more and is more beneficial to each of those players right.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Like no, I'm gonna go prove that well, they did that and, like Fabian love it pretty much told, told us at this point at this point, if I'm gonna prove something, I'm gonna do it to help myself.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm gonna go to the combine and prove that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: And every single one of those players just did that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: They just went out there.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you those players wouldn't have sat out a Game in the playoff oh.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Right, a game that would have meaning right, they wouldn't have done that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: It's not a game, so the only reason they that's the only reason set out.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: They didn't, they haven't lost and they wouldn't let them in the game, right?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So they're like alright, alright, we're just gonna get ready for the imp, combine, ball out, and that shows professional Character.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're honestly what just shows?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that they're, you know they're.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: They're treating it as it should be treated.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It's a business.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It's a business.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: now I'm gonna make a career out of it so every single one of those players went to the combine and Validated their decision not to play in that game.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: That, yeah, by turning in performances, that is going to.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Because of their, because of where they came.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: They came to floor stay and got better right, because they worked their tails off and for years upon years, they, they, they.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Bought into the system.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: You know getting better every day, being your best self when you work with my guy storms when it's time to work with him, and then you come, then you let us Program.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: There's not a fan, there's not a program that even cares.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: It will never be.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got, and then you'll have your rivals that will mess around.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But everybody knows, deep down, you know well, so baseball's in there.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Basketball, oh my goodness.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Let's just wrap it up.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got two more left.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I say what?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you got one game that matters I'm.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I am easily game you got I'm easily game.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You can't let Matt.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Cleveland come in and walk up 500 Cuz.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Even if it moves this game, they'll be five or about 500.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: This, this shit is personal.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right Well you know you cannot let Matt Cleveland come back to Tallahassee, walk off on senior day with a win for him and a loss for his old team.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Like you, just can't do it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: If you're a player, if you got to have a mindset where we can't let that happen, yeah, exactly, can't.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Can do it and do it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Can't let him do it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Can't let him get his Pete, whatever moment.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: No, damn it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: We had to go.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna do about basketball everybody.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: This is a shame well, if you think about it in terms of Last year was the worst year of all time right, and this year was a little bit better but you're still better.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well double the wins.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Did you know?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Not yet.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: No, you could.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Still eligible to do that.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: You could do it, but you won't, and you won't make post you got 15 wins.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: You need to get.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You'd have to win both of these and three more wins and win a bunch in the tournament to Probably get a CBI invitation.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You don't think you can get a six seed and nobody's nobody's invited this thing to play basketball.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: It's just not.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: They're not a postseason team man.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: They don't play like this yeah those bad losses would have cost them a shot of the NIT.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's where we are right now talent wise, coaching wise we're just not a.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: It took a huge step down.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: That was my goal.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: My expectation was the NIT right Early in the season it like, oh man, this team's got a shot at even messing around with the tournament.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Well, there's losses, the Lipscomb George in particular Well, there's they started catching some some ACC losses on the chin too, they don't have.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You can't go on the road and losing Blacksburg and losing Atlanta Lose both the Clemson.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I mean you got to win some of those games, man Can't, though you don't got to play.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Walkins can play, you can play, everybody else can go away.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I mean I.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: If Hamilton's gonna be back next year, then yeah.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I hope Watkins comes back right.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: If we lose Watkins because we bring in an entire new coaching staff, then so be it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean I just I'm at the point now where I don't care either way.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I think it needs to be done.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I just, you just need to do it, just need to rip the band-aid off, man, or expect people not to care next year at all.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: It'll be worse than.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: It'll be worse than what it was back this year.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, anybody that cares about the program.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Like expect something to happen or just stop caring.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like If it's not gonna happen, then why would we even give it?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Like why would we bother paying attention next year?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Well, well, they got a couple of us.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: We'll watch it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Hey man, we got one game left, and we'll talk to you next time Right here.