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Chris Jones Roughing The Passer, Cowboys and Eagles Preview, & Kurt Warner Joins the Show · NFL Now

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Speaker 1: from Carolina, and from Washington were earlier today. Ron Rivera
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Speaker 1: Happy to have as always by my side, this well
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Speaker 1: dress guy. How are you, Steve Waite? I'm good? You
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Speaker 1: know what, Since that was such a great line right there,
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Speaker 1: I say we go for two the rest of the show.
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Speaker 1: See he did there. I'm gonna throw my full body
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Speaker 1: weight into this highlight now from Monday Night Football. Let's
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Speaker 1: do it a f C West at Arrowhead to wrap
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Speaker 1: up Week five. Derek Carr with one ninety nine on
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Speaker 1: the career of passing touchdowns coming into the game. He
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Speaker 1: would earlier throw two hundred of Davante Adams head here,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna get strip sacked by Chris Jump Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Speaker 1: Chris Jones was called for roughing the passer. Carl Scheffers
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Speaker 1: is the referee? Your thought? I mean, come on, that's
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Speaker 1: he stood the ball in his hands. He didn't try
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Speaker 1: to hurt him. He actually came up with the football.
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Speaker 1: Chris Jones came up big swing right there and it
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Speaker 1: would eventually lead to a Raiders field goal. The story
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Speaker 1: of this game, really other than that, was Travis Kelsey.
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Speaker 1: He's superhuman. He had only twenty five yards receiving, but
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Speaker 1: he had four touchdowns. Derek Carr kept him in the game.
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Speaker 1: They blew a huge he did nothing, and their number
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Speaker 1: seven team gets him back with his second long touchdown
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Speaker 1: of the day. Josh McDaniels with four and a half
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Speaker 1: ago is going to go for two, and he almost
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Speaker 1: got it. Some would say that Josh Jacobs did get in,
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Speaker 1: but he didn't. But he didn't. And so instead of
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Speaker 1: tying get the Raiders are down when now Steve they
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Speaker 1: got the ball back and after Davante Adams had a
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Speaker 1: catch called back on third down. What happened here? Oh
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Speaker 1: the receiver's it was, It's just it's it was the Raiders.
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Speaker 1: The stuff the Raiders have been doing all season long,
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Speaker 1: and little things like the Chiefs rally from down double digits,
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Speaker 1: they win, They beat the Raiders and shoves a guy
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Speaker 1: on the field afterwards, more of that coming up at
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Speaker 1: a second. That's an emotional game. So what I thought
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Speaker 1: wasn't I guess was it right? So? Um, but it
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Speaker 1: is what it is. The guys felt the same way
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Speaker 1: I did. So yeah, I think it gave us a
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Speaker 1: little juice. Probably. I don't believe I've seen you as
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Speaker 1: maybe annoyed on the sideline the Christian You guys are
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Speaker 1: trying to get me fined. I'm not gonna bit. I'm
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Speaker 1: just I'm not going there. I mean I can't. I can't.
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Speaker 1: I got it off my chest and he got it
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Speaker 1: off his chest. So he made the call he made,
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Speaker 1: and I got what I needed. Said. You just don't
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Speaker 1: know how guys are gonna respond. I mean, we have
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Speaker 1: a lot, we have a lot of the same players
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Speaker 1: I've been in some deficit games. At the same time,
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Speaker 1: we have a lot of new guys as well. Um.
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Speaker 1: And so for guys to respond and just to keep battling, um,
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Speaker 1: no matter we're down seventeen points, um, and and show
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Speaker 1: that we can fight back from anything. Um. That's what
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Speaker 1: you want to see out of any great football team. Raiders, Chiefs, Baby,
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Speaker 1: It's gonna bring it out of you man, especially Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, we started off a little slow. Um had
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Speaker 1: some calls not go our way, and got not only
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Speaker 1: us fired up with that entire stadium fired up, and
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Speaker 1: Arrowhead had our backs. We we we just rallied together
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Speaker 1: and really really fought through that one. The flip side
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Speaker 1: of this, however, is that the Raiders and we could
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Speaker 1: talk all you one about the two point conversion they
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Speaker 1: did that in the game in which they were up seventeen.
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Speaker 1: Did not think they lost the twenty nothing lead at
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Speaker 1: the half to Arizona. Kyler made his magic for the
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Speaker 1: Raiders blue a lead. Patrick Mahomes made his magic last night.
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Speaker 1: But the Raiders against Steve blow a lead they cannot close.
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Speaker 1: And this is what's so confound in the Raiders fans.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've been in nothing but one score ball
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Speaker 1: games and they continue to self inflict the damage that
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Speaker 1: has them one for Here's a two point conversion. Okay,
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Speaker 1: the call is what it is. They felt that they
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Speaker 1: were driving. Josh Jacobs is a beast all night. But
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Speaker 1: look the play that really swung. It was a defensive
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Speaker 1: hold left the Chief's lineup four field goal. The field
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Speaker 1: goal is missed. They call a defensive holding on alignment
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Speaker 1: gives the Chiefs new downs. Four players later, Travis Kelsey
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Speaker 1: scores one of his four touchdowns. But you have things
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Speaker 1: over and over. The receiver's colliding at the end of
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Speaker 1: the ball game. Um, it's just if you, if you
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Speaker 1: follow the Raiders, you're just like, when are we gonna
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Speaker 1: get over this? Because they've done it just about every game.
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Speaker 1: It is a series of little mistakes. A lot of
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Speaker 1: Raiders fans, you're gonna say calls that didn't work against them,
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Speaker 1: or makeup calls are other things that happened, but little
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Speaker 1: mistakes had happened over and over, and Baldy, I don't
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Speaker 1: know how Josh McDaniels can stitch this up because they've
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Speaker 1: got a great string of games that seemed favorable to them.
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Speaker 1: But again, the little mistakes that keep on popping up
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Speaker 1: that costs them of these close ball games. Goes to
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Speaker 1: show that they're close, but close the only counts and
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Speaker 1: horseshoes will consider this too as well. Last year, and
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Speaker 1: obviously Gruden started the season and all the turmoil didn't
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Speaker 1: finish this season, they eventually made the playoffs. They were
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Speaker 1: seven and two in one score games. This year with
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Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, You tear it down kind of
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Speaker 1: sort of halfway, and you try to build it back
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Speaker 1: up around Derek Carr. This team is not winning these
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Speaker 1: one score games, and they blow a huge lead in
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Speaker 1: a division game which could have been a season swinger yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Now what everyone's talking about in your office today, and
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Speaker 1: that is the Chris Jones roughing the pastor. He came
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Speaker 1: down to the football, he stripped, he landed on the football.
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Speaker 1: Karl Scheffer is called roughing the passer. Here is what
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Speaker 1: Chris Jones had to say afterwards. They listen, this is
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Speaker 1: a Christian likely. Man, I'm gonna parade that I stay
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Speaker 1: off the quarterback. Okay, I had to pick him up
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Speaker 1: and carry them lay them down nowadays, man, you know,
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Speaker 1: but you know the relf, I get it. It happened
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Speaker 1: so fast, you know, and it kind of looked like
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Speaker 1: that initially. But when you actually look at through the
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Speaker 1: video and slow it down, you see how kind of
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Speaker 1: braced and the ref might have seen just a big
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Speaker 1: three hundred pound land on him. And I get it.
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Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not saying the ref is wrong,
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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that those sit a asias can
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Speaker 1: affect the game tremendously, and I give Chris Jones credit.
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Speaker 1: He was calm and level headed, certainly helped him assuming
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Speaker 1: that they won. They won, but he said all the
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Speaker 1: right things. I don't think he's gonna get fined. This
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Speaker 1: is just me. Carl Scheffer's said, the quarterbacks in the pocket,
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Speaker 1: he's in a passing posture, he gets full protection. So
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Speaker 1: when he was tackled, my ruling was that the defender
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Speaker 1: landed on him with full body weight. The quarterback has
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Speaker 1: protected from being tackled with full body weight. He was
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Speaker 1: also asked guys that if this had gone to replay,
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Speaker 1: people say, hey, let's give us replay for these that
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Speaker 1: he believes that the replay still would have shown that
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Speaker 1: he landed upon him with full body weight, and it
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Speaker 1: did not matter that he did so with the football,
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Speaker 1: didn't matter that he caused and recovered a fumble. He
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Speaker 1: also pointed out Baldi that he is three hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty two and then he kind of raises, I rose
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Speaker 1: three forty five pounds, So how do you coach a
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Speaker 1: three pound man two? You don't live in the matrix.
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Speaker 1: You can't just stand him up in a hug him
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Speaker 1: like Max Crosby did what do you do well? Out
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Speaker 1: of the defensive linemen have changed the way that they
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Speaker 1: actually tackle these quarterbacks. Grady Jared did it and he
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Speaker 1: got flagged forward against Tom Brady on Sunday. But you know,
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Speaker 1: Carl Jeffers didn't have the advantage that I had this
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Speaker 1: morning of slowing it down and watching it over and
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Speaker 1: over again. And what Chris Jones said he actually did
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Speaker 1: pull off of Andrew. You can't see it in real time.
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Speaker 1: Carl can't see it from behind the right side of
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Speaker 1: the behind the line of scrimmage. He can't see it.
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Speaker 1: But right here when when uh, Chris comes down, he
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Speaker 1: actually pulls off a little bit, he doesn't put his
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Speaker 1: full body weight into him. And so can you go
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Speaker 1: to replay and then change the call? I don't know
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna see it and replay. Um, it was
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Speaker 1: easy to see this morning where Chris Jones he could
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Speaker 1: have drilled him and put his body weight into him.
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Speaker 1: I didn't see that from Chris, and so I feel
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Speaker 1: like we're in a real bad era right now, you know,
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Speaker 1: starting with what happened with to uh, what happened to
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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater this weekend? Brady, like I I feels like
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Speaker 1: the rules are in place and they're good rules to
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Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. But I don't think we have to
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Speaker 1: go crazy about this thing right now, and I think
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Speaker 1: we're on that verge of doing that. Well. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting because I heard a lot of discussion this
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Speaker 1: morning on talk radio and whatnot, is that every time
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Speaker 1: the NFL makes a change, it seems to be an
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Speaker 1: over market correction, right And I don't know if that's
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Speaker 1: the case right here. I don't know if the officials
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Speaker 1: have been told, hey be very sensitive to this, and
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Speaker 1: I get it if they are, again after seeing what
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Speaker 1: happened to it Tuckle byloa situation. But the Grady Jarrett
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Speaker 1: thing on, Tom Brady absolutely was not roughing. He did
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Speaker 1: not try to harm or spike. And Chris Jones didn't
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Speaker 1: do the same thing either, And Chris jon said right here,
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Speaker 1: the fact that you know it's weird. Usually see roughing penalties.
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Speaker 1: Once the ball is delivered, right, he's still on the
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Speaker 1: ball in his hands. I mean, Derek car still on
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Speaker 1: the ball in his hand, came up with the football,
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Speaker 1: with the football. This is something that could have absolutely
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Speaker 1: swung what was going on in the game. The chiefskip
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Speaker 1: possession deep in their own territory and they go and
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Speaker 1: put points on the board and things aren't as close
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Speaker 1: as they look right now. So again I'm sure this
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Speaker 1: will be reviewed and discussed a lot, but it's just
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Speaker 1: for everything to happen all on one weekend, and you know,
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Speaker 1: after the rule changes, with the concussion protocols or whatnot,
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Speaker 1: it just seems like an effort is being made to
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Speaker 1: be a lot more sensitive to it. Again, the the
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Speaker 1: point is very good, um, but just the fact that
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Speaker 1: it could it could have really impact the two outcomes
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Speaker 1: didn't in the CANTI the game, which it makes it
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Speaker 1: so much more going well, whether or not there's an
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Speaker 1: emphasis the officials are human beings here, right They watched
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Speaker 1: the TV, They're aware of what's going on in the league,
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Speaker 1: and you may obviously be more prone to make a
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Speaker 1: call on in the interest of safety and the interest
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Speaker 1: of caution. It's understandable and also by the letter of
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Speaker 1: the law, you can understand how both of those calls
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Speaker 1: were made. It's a question of how are these laws
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Speaker 1: written and how are they actually applied in real time
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Speaker 1: and at full speed where we have the benefit of
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Speaker 1: replay and we can go back and look at any
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Speaker 1: and everything and try to nitpick it. We're gonna get
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Speaker 1: back to this a little bit later. Kurt Warner called
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Speaker 1: that game will get a quarterback's perspective in a little bit,
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Speaker 1: Baldy Steve, thank you. There's another issue, however, from that game.
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Speaker 1: Mike Arri folow Tom Pellicero with me now for the
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Speaker 1: insider report, and that is Tom, what we saw with
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams going out of the stadium, going from the
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Speaker 1: field to the tunnel to the locker room where he
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Speaker 1: shoved the cameraman, a technician, somebody. They're exiting the field.
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Speaker 1: What's the latest there, Randy Raider's wide receiver, Davante Adams
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Speaker 1: faces league disciplined, potentially including a suspension, for shoving that
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Speaker 1: photographer after Monday Night's loss in Kansas City. Now, Adams
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Speaker 1: addressed this both with reporters in the locker room and
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Speaker 1: again on Twitter after the game, saying, in part, sorry
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Speaker 1: to the guy pushed over. After the game, obviously very
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Speaker 1: frustrated that the way the game ended, and when he
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Speaker 1: ran in front of me as I exited, that was
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Speaker 1: my reaction and I felt horrible immediately. That's not me.
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Speaker 1: My apologies, man, hope you see this well. Unclear if
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Speaker 1: the photographer saw it. What we do know is he
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Speaker 1: immediately went to the police after that incident occurred, filed
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Speaker 1: a police report alleging assault. The Kansas City Police Department
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Speaker 1: says that they are now investigating. The man's injuries are
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Speaker 1: not believed initially to be life threatening, according to the
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Police, So the NFL is reviewing this situation closely. Mike,
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Speaker 1: I would anticipate that we get a decision on suspension
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Speaker 1: or not today. At minimum, you would expect that there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a fine for Davante Adams here. Yes, this
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Speaker 1: kind of feels like more than a fine, though, I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's really no comparison right here, because you know, it's
11:23
Speaker 1: been Mike Evans for starting a little bru ho. It's
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Speaker 1: one game, but that's amongst other NFL players who are
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Speaker 1: wearing pads and kind of expect to be hit at
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Speaker 1: some point on the field, right I mean, your your
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Speaker 1: photographer just walking by. You're not expecting to be shoved.
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Speaker 1: You didn't show up there fully padded and expecting contact contacts.
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Speaker 1: So I'm really curious to see what the league is
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Speaker 1: going to say on this. Now, the Raiders have a
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Speaker 1: buy on Sunday. Uh, so if there's some kind of
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Speaker 1: appeal process, perhaps they'll, uh he'll have a chance to
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Speaker 1: really state his case. There's no rush in the same
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Speaker 1: sense that there would be if the Raiders were playing
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Speaker 1: this weekend. But I would say this. You know, you
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Speaker 1: watched the video there and Davante Adams saying he immediately
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Speaker 1: felt remorseful or what ever word he used in the
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Speaker 1: statement while he kept walking right past the guy. He
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Speaker 1: immediately felt that way and say, oh, wait a minute, sorry,
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't have done that. You're okay, my bad. He
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Speaker 1: just kept on walking there. So we'll see what the
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Speaker 1: league decides. Kind of feels like this is gonna be
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Speaker 1: something deserving of more than just to find. But we'll say, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll wait and see this one stuff. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: the player's field. However, there are plenty of guys, men, women,
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Speaker 1: working their professionals, doing their job at the best of
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Speaker 1: their ability. There's another angle that we didn't show. It's
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Speaker 1: from behind Adams and remember he's got a helmet on.
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Speaker 1: Periphery vision not the best, and peripheral vision not the best.
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Speaker 1: Where it seems like from the other angle, the guy
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Speaker 1: just cuts him off, no spatial awareness, and there is
12:44
Speaker 1: a Darryl Jackson to the Super Bowl like arm extension
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Speaker 1: there clearly, But to your point, do you help him up?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm glad, I'm I'm I'm not. You
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Speaker 1: don't wanna. We don't want to encourage any types of
12:56
Speaker 1: violent instant gender on NFL fields, But Mike and I
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Speaker 1: have been sideline reporters and doing hits before games on
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Speaker 1: plenty of different stadium fields. One place where you need
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Speaker 1: to have your head on the swivel is walking by
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Speaker 1: the tunnel because there are players coming and going. Some
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Speaker 1: places will have security keeping people away. Other places apparently
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Speaker 1: it's like this where guys can kind of wonder wherever
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Speaker 1: they want to having your head down and walking directly
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Speaker 1: in front of a player. Again, not getting into legal
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Speaker 1: aspects of this, but I would say not real bright
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Speaker 1: by any person. That's the conversation Steve and I were
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Speaker 1: having off the air as well. It's like you're stepping
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Speaker 1: into the freeway there, right, You're stepping onto the highway.
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Speaker 1: You gotta look both ways, and to your point, right,
13:37
Speaker 1: most stadiums immediately have people's security on either sides of
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Speaker 1: those tunnels with their arms out saying, hey, players are
13:44
Speaker 1: coming in and out. All right, we're spending too much
13:47
Speaker 1: time with that Tom Damian Harris injury update, real football
13:50
Speaker 1: on the field here, what's his status in Foxboro? Well,
13:52
Speaker 1: Andrew Damian Harris has a hamstring injury, still undergoing test,
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Speaker 1: but my understanding is he is likely to miss multiple
13:59
Speaker 1: games here. This is going to be a more significant
14:02
Speaker 1: type of a hamstring injury, and obviously those are always
14:04
Speaker 1: hard to radict. But in the short term here it
14:06
Speaker 1: certainly sounds like we're gonna get more of Romandre Stevenson,
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Speaker 1: who had a big game after Harris dropped out of
14:12
Speaker 1: Sunday's big win over the Detroit Lions. So more Stevenson.
14:17
Speaker 1: If you've got one of those guys in fantasy, that
14:19
Speaker 1: would be the guy to play going forward. Okay, And
14:21
Speaker 1: and if you're in fantasy and you're starting to Carolina quarterback,
14:23
Speaker 1: it's probably p J. Walker this week. That's right. Bigger
14:26
Speaker 1: Mayfield got second opinions on that high ankle sprain, which
14:29
Speaker 1: basically confirmed what they already knew. There's not major damage
14:33
Speaker 1: in the ankle, though, of course, a high ankle sprain
14:35
Speaker 1: always means that you've got damaged ligaments in your ankle.
14:37
Speaker 1: This is not an injury that is going to require
14:39
Speaker 1: surgery either for Mayfield, and I'm told the Panthers right
14:43
Speaker 1: now are not putting him onto injured reserve. That leaves
14:46
Speaker 1: open the possibility Mayfield could come back sometime within the
14:49
Speaker 1: next four games. He's a guy who's always played through
14:52
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. He's got a high pain tolerance. Realistically, though,
14:55
Speaker 1: the recovery is more like two to six weeks somewhere
14:58
Speaker 1: in there. So in the short term here, p It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be p J. Walker time started on Sunday against
15:03
Speaker 1: the Rams. Yeah, you can try to will it into happening.
15:07
Speaker 1: You playing on a high ankle spran doesn't work that way.
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Speaker 1: You can just ask Mac Jones and the Patriots. You're
15:12
Speaker 1: talking multiple weeks here. For Baker Mayfield, it's about mobility.
15:15
Speaker 1: It's about the ability, uh to stand on a stable ankle,
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Speaker 1: and with a high ankle spraining, that's really difficult to do.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think multiple games at the very least
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Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield is a fair assessment of this one.
15:27
Speaker 1: And as you guys are speaking on Nathaniel Hackett, according
15:29
Speaker 1: to R James Palmer just said he does expect is
15:32
Speaker 1: we had all said on Sunday that Russell Wilson will
15:35
Speaker 1: play this coming Monday for the Broncos. Thank you, Mike Garrell,
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Speaker 1: Folo and Tom tell Us Saro gentlemen. Back a little
15:42
Speaker 1: bit later coming up next. Oh yeah, just the Eagles
15:44
Speaker 1: and Cowboys coming up on Sunday night in Philadelphia. What
15:48
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has in store for that Dallas defense and
15:50
Speaker 1: assuming it's Cooper rush, the Cowboys answer back with that's
16:04
Speaker 1: that is intercepted. Intercepted. The big boys are now starting
16:09
Speaker 1: to impose their will. Centers and pets go a round,
16:16
Speaker 1: rushed up run sack. Yes A J. Brown Collard put
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Speaker 1: the house tall, he goes pick it up now boys
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Speaker 1: with never a job, he gonna be fun. Yeah, if
16:31
Speaker 1: I have it O four and one, What a game
16:33
Speaker 1: we have Sunday night in Philadelphia. That Dallas pass rush,
16:36
Speaker 1: which beasted on the Rams banked up offensive line, comes
16:40
Speaker 1: in chasing Jalen Hurst with twenty sacks, second of the
16:43
Speaker 1: NFL behind the forty Niners. Jerry Jones, it should be fun. Huh.
16:48
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with really, the way Philadelphia has evolved
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Speaker 1: and gotten where they are, that is going to be
16:57
Speaker 1: a real challenge for us up there. They've they've got
17:01
Speaker 1: they've got the goods, and so we're going up there,
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Speaker 1: uh Sunday. And if what is exciting is that, I
17:11
Speaker 1: don't know when I've felt any better about going in
17:14
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia even though they've got one of the
17:18
Speaker 1: best teams as Van nyears. Uh, it's called mojo. It's
17:23
Speaker 1: called mojo, it's called Cooper Rush and all likelihood as
17:26
Speaker 1: well as Jerry Jones did say today that the thing
17:28
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott is how well he could spin the ball.
17:31
Speaker 1: He said spin a whole bunch of times, as if
17:34
Speaker 1: we're talking about spin right before the baseball playoffs tonight.
17:36
Speaker 1: But expect Cooper Rush and obviously expect a good game.
17:39
Speaker 1: We would have to think, Steve from Jalen Hurts, this
17:41
Speaker 1: offense took a little bit to get going there a
17:44
Speaker 1: second half or second quarter team, I beg your pardon
17:47
Speaker 1: most of the time we saw that last week. What
17:48
Speaker 1: kind of challenge are they thrown at the Cowboys this week? Yeah?
17:50
Speaker 1: I mean, and Baldi, I think you agree with me
17:52
Speaker 1: on this. This is one more Jalen Hurts mobility, whether
17:55
Speaker 1: it's skeleton runs, what's moving the pocket was. This is
17:58
Speaker 1: gonna be key because the Cowboys have really only played
18:01
Speaker 1: one mobile quarterback in Daniel Jones, and they and they
18:03
Speaker 1: really did well against him. They used to buy some time,
18:05
Speaker 1: they got different types of pressures, but we know the
18:08
Speaker 1: way Dallas likes to get upfield on their pressures. You
18:10
Speaker 1: move him like this, it's gonna make it a little
18:13
Speaker 1: bit tougher for Michael Parsons to catch up to a
18:15
Speaker 1: Losive quarterback. They're not gonna have much time. We know
18:17
Speaker 1: that he goes old line is good, but Hurts isn't
18:19
Speaker 1: gonna have a whole lot of time. So they're gonna
18:21
Speaker 1: have to use him on some scheduled runs and do
18:23
Speaker 1: some things to keep that de front chasing because Dallas
18:26
Speaker 1: is d fronts from the best in the NFL ball. Well,
18:30
Speaker 1: it's the strength of Jalen Hurts is you know when
18:33
Speaker 1: to run and how to run, how to protect himself.
18:35
Speaker 1: Teams have not been able to force him into mistakes
18:38
Speaker 1: so far. Skip He's throwing two interceptions in five games.
18:41
Speaker 1: He has not lost to fumble ball securities, Paramount tam
18:45
Speaker 1: and to the team. He does play behind a very
18:47
Speaker 1: good offensive line, Lane Johnson playing as well as any
18:50
Speaker 1: tackle left or right in the whole league. Right now,
18:53
Speaker 1: he's on his game. They had a bunch of banged
18:55
Speaker 1: up guys on the left side. But let's let's face
18:58
Speaker 1: it that the Cowboys have feasted and this four game
19:01
Speaker 1: win streak on broken down, beat up offensive lines. They've
19:04
Speaker 1: got eighteen sacks, forty three quarterback hits against Washington, against
19:08
Speaker 1: the Rams, against Cincinnati. There's a little different test in
19:12
Speaker 1: Philadelphia this weekend. But to your point, Steve Jalen Hurts
19:15
Speaker 1: has been extremely pragmatic about when to break the pocket,
19:19
Speaker 1: when to get out, keeping his eyes down the field. Uh.
19:22
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said, he has evolved, the team has evolved,
19:25
Speaker 1: and they have because of his development. This is also
19:28
Speaker 1: a different test here for Cooper Rush, who one last
19:30
Speaker 1: week lost a couple of fumbles. Miraculously both came right
19:33
Speaker 1: back to the Cowboys. He completed only ten passes Steve
19:36
Speaker 1: ten in winning a road game against a defending Super
19:39
Speaker 1: Bowl champion. But for years the Cowboys fans, many of them, said,
19:43
Speaker 1: give Tony Pollard the baltmore, give Zeke the baltmore. Let's
19:45
Speaker 1: get back to the old Zeke. They ran sixty percent
19:49
Speaker 1: of the time last week. Can they do it like
19:53
Speaker 1: that against Philly. They're gonna have to and as Baldi
19:56
Speaker 1: said this and you said second and third quarter team, right,
19:59
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to set the tone early. They're
20:01
Speaker 1: gonna have to get some points on the board in
20:03
Speaker 1: the first quarter and not behind. So they can't run
20:06
Speaker 1: the ball. Because you look at most of their games
20:08
Speaker 1: and the Zeke Pollar tandem has been fantastic. It has
20:11
Speaker 1: really alleviated the need for Cooper Rush to make plays.
20:14
Speaker 1: And that's in part also because Dallas' defense has allowed
20:17
Speaker 1: them to play close games. They haven't fallen behind, no
20:21
Speaker 1: huge deficits trying to make up by throwing the ball.
20:23
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be paramount in this game, and
20:25
Speaker 1: this is gonna be tough, he said, we're talking about
20:27
Speaker 1: Dallas's defensive front. The Eagles are no joke all the
20:30
Speaker 1: way through, so their run defense is really strong. So
20:33
Speaker 1: Baldi to me, Dallas has got to have this this
20:36
Speaker 1: Russian combo work as well as it did against the
20:39
Speaker 1: Ramps for them to have an opportunity to get points
20:41
Speaker 1: on the board, which again it's gonna be a paramount
20:42
Speaker 1: against the Eagles offense. Well, the Eagles last week against
20:46
Speaker 1: Arizona on Rundowns, they went big and they went to
20:49
Speaker 1: a jumbo package. It took a linebacker up the field
20:52
Speaker 1: for Jordan Davis on the nose, played twenty nine snaps
20:54
Speaker 1: on top of the center of the Arizona Cardinals uh
20:57
Speaker 1: sandwich between Fletcher Cox and Jabon Hardgrave. They got Josh
21:00
Speaker 1: Sweat and Hassan Reddick outside one linebacker t J. Edwards.
21:03
Speaker 1: I believe the Cowboys will see that defense and it
21:06
Speaker 1: will be a test to what they do with Tyler
21:09
Speaker 1: Smith and whoever is that left guard, maybe the former
21:12
Speaker 1: Eagle Jason Peters, and there's something and that's gonna be
21:15
Speaker 1: the test because the Eagles have they have a defensive
21:18
Speaker 1: scheme that they busted out last week that if the
21:20
Speaker 1: Cowboys want to try to run it like that on Rundowns,
21:24
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Let's let's get it on. It
21:26
Speaker 1: will be a good South Philly street fight if that happens.
21:28
Speaker 1: Eagles number ten this year against the run. Cowboys have
21:33
Speaker 1: some success of late, seven of nine against Philadelphia, scored
21:37
Speaker 1: ninety two points against the Eagles in two games last year.
21:41
Speaker 1: Coming up next, how do you fix the rams? Are
21:45
Speaker 1: there problems deeper than just old line issues? And what
21:50
Speaker 1: about rough in the passer? Kurt Warner Hall of Fame
21:54
Speaker 1: QB perspective. Straight ahead, let's get a quarterbacks perspective on this. Now,
22:02
Speaker 1: a gold jacket quarterbacks perspective on this. Kurt Warner joins
22:06
Speaker 1: us from the QB room. And Kurt, you were at
22:08
Speaker 1: the game last night. You're calling it on Westwood One
22:10
Speaker 1: with Kevin Harlan. So we have the Chris Jones play
22:13
Speaker 1: and I know you saw the Grady Jarrett play as well,
22:15
Speaker 1: And I want to be careful. I don't want to
22:16
Speaker 1: make this well, Hey, when I was playing meeting you,
22:19
Speaker 1: we used to get hit and it was more of
22:21
Speaker 1: a game and and all this. Do the quarterbacks think
22:25
Speaker 1: that this is being over officiated? As grateful as they
22:29
Speaker 1: are for the protection, You're right, Andrew. I think we're
22:34
Speaker 1: grateful and guys are playing longer because of you know,
22:37
Speaker 1: some of the rules that they have in place. But
22:40
Speaker 1: I think if you talked to these quarterbacks to a man,
22:44
Speaker 1: they'll take the benefits that come from it. But they
22:47
Speaker 1: want everybody to be able to play football. And you
22:50
Speaker 1: know what we saw last night from Chris Jones was
22:52
Speaker 1: him making a football play. Is he was going through
22:54
Speaker 1: the quarterback to get the ball. He ends up getting
22:56
Speaker 1: the ball out and yes, he ends up landing on
22:59
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, which by the letter of the law, your
23:02
Speaker 1: body weight falls on the quarterback, it's a penalty. I
23:06
Speaker 1: understand how hard, how hard it is for the officials.
23:08
Speaker 1: I understand how fast the game is and how hard
23:11
Speaker 1: it is to see all the different aspects that go
23:14
Speaker 1: into it. Um, So we've got to figure something out
23:18
Speaker 1: because we've got to allow the defensive players to make
23:21
Speaker 1: these sort of plays. It's what they do. Yes, we
23:24
Speaker 1: want to stop it from being excessive. We all know
23:26
Speaker 1: what happened a week ago Thursday, what happened with tah
23:30
Speaker 1: and I think that directly led to what we saw
23:33
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady in the incident with J. D. Brady. Garrett,
23:37
Speaker 1: sorry Jarrett, and um, you know, it was one of
23:40
Speaker 1: those situations where you saw the speed of of the
23:43
Speaker 1: you know, the twist, but then he kind of let
23:46
Speaker 1: up at the end and it wasn't nearly as physical
23:49
Speaker 1: going to the ground, and so you'd like to see
23:51
Speaker 1: them go Okay, in that particular case, We're not gonna
23:54
Speaker 1: find Grady in that particular situation. So, um, you know,
23:59
Speaker 1: you see both sides of it, you understand both sides
24:01
Speaker 1: of it. We've got to continue to to work through
24:04
Speaker 1: this to make sure that we get it right moving
24:07
Speaker 1: forward so guys can play the game and it doesn't
24:10
Speaker 1: dictate the outcome of games, while still making player health
24:14
Speaker 1: and safety a priority. We have the numbers here and
24:16
Speaker 1: roughing the pastor through five weeks. These numbers may surprise people,
24:20
Speaker 1: despite the fact that we've had two very big, high
24:22
Speaker 1: profile calls these last two days. Roughing the passer calls
24:26
Speaker 1: are down by nearly fifty percent from last year, forty
24:30
Speaker 1: eight through five weeks last year, only twenty five this year.
24:33
Speaker 1: Just some perspective here as we look towards week six.
24:36
Speaker 1: Kurt the Rams looking towards week six, get the Carolina
24:39
Speaker 1: Panthers in here, but they do so with an all
24:41
Speaker 1: likelihood a six different starting old line combination in six weeks.
24:45
Speaker 1: For Sean McVeigh, it's mind boggling. They can't keep anyone
24:48
Speaker 1: healthy and Matthew Stafford has taken a beating back there,
24:50
Speaker 1: sacked over twenty times Obviously they have those issues, But
24:54
Speaker 1: do you see more schematic issues or bigger issues here
24:58
Speaker 1: that maybe aren't protection and old line related. What do
25:03
Speaker 1: you see when you turn on the tape. I think
25:07
Speaker 1: it all stems back to that, because when we know
25:09
Speaker 1: a Sean McVeigh offense, it really starts with the run game,
25:12
Speaker 1: and it starts with creating big play opportunities off of
25:16
Speaker 1: play action. So all of that obviously is intertwined with
25:20
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I think what you're seeing is all
25:22
Speaker 1: of it kind of coming crashing down right now. Is
25:25
Speaker 1: we all know how great Cooper cup is, but they
25:28
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have that every down receiver that can stretch
25:31
Speaker 1: the field that can give them those big plays. So
25:34
Speaker 1: now their drives almost seem to have to be ten
25:38
Speaker 1: and twelve play drives every single time they step on
25:41
Speaker 1: the football field. So now that accentuates the issues with
25:45
Speaker 1: the offensive line because you're not getting fifty and sixty
25:48
Speaker 1: yard chunks at any given time or as much as
25:51
Speaker 1: they used to. And so I think it all just
25:53
Speaker 1: kind of snowballs because of the issues they're having up front,
25:57
Speaker 1: and they're behind the eight ball. They're having to work
26:00
Speaker 1: too hard to get points on the board, and it's
26:03
Speaker 1: really tough to sustain if you can't win the line
26:05
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And they they miss Van Jefferson huge. People
26:10
Speaker 1: want to talk about O'Dell and Allen Robinson. Blame Allen Robinson.
26:13
Speaker 1: They miss Van Jefferson in my eyes more than anyone.
26:15
Speaker 1: They probably get him back after the bye. Got to
26:17
Speaker 1: get to the bi however, with a win over Carolina
26:20
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday. Also, Kurt wanted to say happy anniversary.
26:25
Speaker 1: This on Twitter today twenty five years ago. Today, she
26:29
Speaker 1: says she would still choose you. You're spending your anniversary
26:33
Speaker 1: talking to me with technical difficulties. I hope you have
26:36
Speaker 1: something planned big later that we're working on it. Yeah,
26:41
Speaker 1: twenty five years, it's it's awesome. I found myself a
26:44
Speaker 1: good one. As they say in football analogies, I outkicked
26:47
Speaker 1: my coverage. UM. But it's been twenty five good years
26:50
Speaker 1: and she's stuck with me through the entire journey and
26:53
Speaker 1: even to this day. I know she wishes I was
26:55
Speaker 1: fully retired but still working, as you said, even on
26:58
Speaker 1: our anniversary, but uh, you know, I I choose her
27:02
Speaker 1: every day of the week. Twice on Sunday's UM and
27:05
Speaker 1: say it's been a great ride. We love her as well,
27:06
Speaker 1: and thank Brenda from all of us here in the
27:08
Speaker 1: network for letting us share you every day, but especially
27:10
Speaker 1: here on your anniversary as well. Happy anniversary, Kurkurt Wander,
27:13
Speaker 1: everybody our Hall of Fame quarterback with us every week.
27:17
Speaker 1: Stop it up next, Josh Allen and the Bills are
27:21
Speaker 1: where in the power rankings? Uh huh, alright, gonna take
27:28
Speaker 1: callers Mike and Philly next. Dan Hans has puts these together.
27:37
Speaker 1: I believe he did so from a pub last night
27:40
Speaker 1: in London. Dolphins beat the Bills. Steve the Dolphins are
27:44
Speaker 1: number three behind Yeah, I see, and that's clearly where
27:48
Speaker 1: he's taking the injuries into into account. I'm getting in
27:51
Speaker 1: the mind of Dan Hans. You are taking me into
27:53
Speaker 1: dangerous territory right now as he's probably trying to find
27:56
Speaker 1: Ted last. Dan actually is Jim Henson, and he's got
27:59
Speaker 1: his hand up Steve's back and he's kind of right now.
28:03
Speaker 1: I probably would have had them higher, but this is
28:05
Speaker 1: and we're Dan's not trusting his eyes and he's trusting
28:07
Speaker 1: his gut. I think Dan's not trusting his gut. He's
28:10
Speaker 1: trusting is the whiskey in front of him. I didn't
28:13
Speaker 1: mean it to get like this. Dan Hansis goes to London,
28:18
Speaker 1: comes back and then sleeps in for a week, and
28:20
Speaker 1: then this is what happens. Yeah, ship me back in
28:22
Speaker 1: a body bag. I mean we were a nice to it.
28:25
Speaker 1: These are the new Power Rankings. Look at this, They're
28:28
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com slash Power Rankings. You could hear
28:30
Speaker 1: that Dan is back with us at the desk. We
28:31
Speaker 1: have Steve White, who filled in admirably trying to translate
28:34
Speaker 1: the Power Rankings the last couple of weeks when Dan
28:36
Speaker 1: and the Around the NFL podcast were on the road.
28:37
Speaker 1: Not sanscript. It's not san script like you're here to
28:40
Speaker 1: defend you. Welcome home. By the way, we're an easy
28:43
Speaker 1: empty chair punk. Yeah, I get it. That's part of
28:46
Speaker 1: the Power Rankings responsibilities for everyone to tell you you're wrong,
28:49
Speaker 1: but accept that challenge. Okay, we have callers waiting from
28:53
Speaker 1: Philadelphia that would like to know why the undefeated Eagles,
28:55
Speaker 1: the only remaining undefeated team at the National Football League,
28:58
Speaker 1: are number two behind a one lost Bills team. Because
29:01
Speaker 1: I could not sleep at night if I didn't tell
29:06
Speaker 1: the public from the Power rankings perch that the Bills
29:09
Speaker 1: are the best team in You're trolling Philly fans are
29:11
Speaker 1: not purposely, but it is how it turns out to feel.
29:15
Speaker 1: And I'm sure in my mentions right now that's the
29:17
Speaker 1: way it is. But I think the Bills are the
29:19
Speaker 1: best team in football. We see it week after week.
29:23
Speaker 1: They are loaded on both sides of the ball, and
29:25
Speaker 1: you know, they make the Steelers look like a peewee team,
29:29
Speaker 1: and it's it's not a shot against the Eagles. I
29:31
Speaker 1: just think that if you put these teams on a
29:34
Speaker 1: neutral field, the Bills are the best team in football
29:36
Speaker 1: right now. But I get you saying that because when
29:38
Speaker 1: they win, they win. But what is Philadelphia done to
29:41
Speaker 1: take a step back? Right They've shown they can win
29:44
Speaker 1: in every possible way. Big plays, run game, defense, takeaways.
29:49
Speaker 1: I mean, styles make fights, and I think this is
29:52
Speaker 1: one where if you put them on a neutral field,
29:54
Speaker 1: Philadelphia could be right there. But more than anything, Dan,
29:58
Speaker 1: because I really kind of you know, the Bills might
30:00
Speaker 1: be the best team, but I just tell you what
30:02
Speaker 1: Philadelphia did to fall back. Yeah, and maybe it wasn't
30:05
Speaker 1: such an impressive win in the desert against Arizona. Maybe
30:09
Speaker 1: that was just enough style point, just enough. Well, we'll
30:12
Speaker 1: find out a lot more about it on Sunday. They
30:15
Speaker 1: get the Cowboys, who are now number ten. They are
30:17
Speaker 1: up three with Cooper Rush. Somehow the Cowboys behind the
30:20
Speaker 1: Bengals who are down three. But we'll get into that
30:22
Speaker 1: a little bit later. Dan is wearing a Yankees T
30:25
Speaker 1: shirt earlier today, so just know where he is born
30:27
Speaker 1: and raised. Both New York teams are moving up. You
30:31
Speaker 1: have the Jets up nine to seventeen. You'll get to
30:35
Speaker 1: them at a second. The Giants are up six to thirteen.
30:38
Speaker 1: The Giants are the thirteenth best team in football. And
30:41
Speaker 1: it may the way you set it up there, not intentionally.
30:43
Speaker 1: I don't think you make it sound like maybe I'm
30:45
Speaker 1: a New York homber, but this is just these are
30:47
Speaker 1: good times for New York football and there has not
30:49
Speaker 1: been this vibe in a long time. With the Giants. Steve,
30:52
Speaker 1: we were just talking in the newsroom. Are they frisky? No,
30:55
Speaker 1: they might be spicy, and maybe frisky and spicy. And
30:59
Speaker 1: you see the way this team plays and they're always
31:02
Speaker 1: in a game, and they're well coached. And on the
31:04
Speaker 1: Jet side, they got playmakers. They Joe Douglas deserves major
31:08
Speaker 1: credit because all these draft picks that we talked about
31:11
Speaker 1: in May, Oh, that looks like a really good class. Oh,
31:13
Speaker 1: it is a good class. These guys can play in
31:15
Speaker 1: the Packers don't be careful. The Jets gonna put up
31:17
Speaker 1: thirty on them at again, Lambeau. It's hard to Jets
31:23
Speaker 1: are gonna put up thirty on the Packers at lamb Listen,
31:25
Speaker 1: the Packers can't get a stop right now, and the
31:27
Speaker 1: Jets can score points. I look, I agree with both
31:30
Speaker 1: of these ascensions of the New York teams, and I
31:32
Speaker 1: think the Giants actually shouldn't be higher. I think the
31:34
Speaker 1: Giants should be at eleven ahead of the Titans because
31:37
Speaker 1: I can see that, look, they believe in themselves. They're
31:39
Speaker 1: playing good football right now. This is not like, Hey,
31:41
Speaker 1: we're winning just because of the opponent we're playing. They
31:44
Speaker 1: believe they can win. I like both of these pushes
31:47
Speaker 1: in the right I totally agree with you. I am
31:49
Speaker 1: bullish on the Giants. They're up six to thirteen. So
31:52
Speaker 1: assuming we have fourteen teams in the playoffs, which is
31:54
Speaker 1: what we have, so they are above the line here
31:57
Speaker 1: as a playoff team, you also have the Raiders at fourteen.
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