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The Clinton-Epstein Depositions · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Winter Insurance.
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  Speaker 2: I'm True.
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  Speaker 3: Oh hey, everybody, welcome to such a special episode of
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  Speaker 3: Conspiracy the Show. I'm your host, Adam Todd Brown, who
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  Speaker 4: You can hold me in contempt.
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  Speaker 3: Ha ha, it is contempt for Court mcspadden in the cut.
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  Speaker 3: How's it going, man, It's.
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  Speaker 4: Good to be here in the house. Oversight committed with you,
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  Speaker 4: my friends.
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  Speaker 3: I am very excited. We are talking about the Clinton
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  Speaker 3: Epstein depositions. We have done the hero's work. I watched
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  Speaker 3: all It's around nine hours. But YouTube you can do
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  Speaker 3: it at double speed. It's fine. This, I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: is one of those things where the media is like, listen,
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  Speaker 3: we watched all of it. Yeah, that's your fucking job.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you're supposed to. I think it was the Mueller
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  Speaker 3: Report that was like four hundred pages. There were even
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  Speaker 3: politicians who would get in front of people and be like,
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  Speaker 3: I read all four hundred pages. There are Stephen King
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  Speaker 3: books that are significantly less long than that. I don't
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  Speaker 3: give a shit that you read four hundred pages.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that's two animalphs. Fucker shut up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, these depositions are on YouTube. We'll link to them
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  Speaker 3: in the show notes if you want to put yourself
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  Speaker 3: through similar punishment.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to mainline lies directly into your femeral artery. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And what really sucks is there's a bunch of these depositions,
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  Speaker 3: but apparently, and this comes up in Hillary Clinton's a
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  Speaker 3: bunch for the ones where you want to hear what
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  Speaker 3: the person has to say, like Les Wexner, for example,
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  Speaker 3: Republicans didn't even show up to less Wexner's testimony.
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  Speaker 4: And if you follow the Epstein case even slightly closely,
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  Speaker 4: Les Wexner is like the guy you want to talk to.
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  Speaker 4: That's the guy. He's like, the guy's like where Epstein
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  Speaker 4: gets all his money practically.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the one guy who actually let Epstein
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  Speaker 3: handle his finances.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, give him power of attorney if I'm not mistaken. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, if you're really committed to fighting sex trafficking and
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  Speaker 3: bringing these people to justice, you'd think you'd want to
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  Speaker 3: show up to ask less Wexner some questions, and Republicans
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  Speaker 3: did not, And that is a big theme throughout Hillary
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  Speaker 3: Clinton's deposition. They did their depositions separately.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of trying to own the Libs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of oh okay, but well what
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  Speaker 3: about your husband? And what keeps happen throughout Hillary Clinton's deposition,
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  Speaker 3: at least in my view of it, is Republicans just
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  Speaker 3: keep validating her point, which her big overarching point here
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  Speaker 3: is this committee is a good thing. This committee should
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  Speaker 3: absolutely exist, but it should exist in the name of
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  Speaker 3: seeking justice for the victims and seeking the actual truth
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  Speaker 3: about what happened. So we should obviously have Trump here
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  Speaker 3: to testify, and you see repeatedly Republicans will push back
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  Speaker 3: on that with okay, but what about your husband? He
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  Speaker 3: was on the plane too, Yeah, he's testifying. So you
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  Speaker 3: are validating her point by saying, oh, well what about
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  Speaker 3: Bill Clinton? Motherfucker, Bill Clinton's testifying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she says quite a few times. You can
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  Speaker 4: talk to him tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so now what about Trump? And it's a really
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  Speaker 3: frustrating watch. What is your overall take on Hillary Clinton's
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  Speaker 3: perfocer foremance in front of this committee.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've often been a little embarrassed that I've
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  Speaker 4: voted for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, but when I
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  Speaker 4: watched this deposition, I thought, you know, this just makes
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  Speaker 4: me pine for a time when our evil leaders were
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  Speaker 4: professional and competent. You know, you better believe Hillary Clinton's
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  Speaker 4: Warren Iran would be going a lot better right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. If the choice is going to
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  Speaker 3: be evil or evil, I at least want the kind
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  Speaker 3: of evil that will keep the car on the fucking road. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: which we don't have that right now. I was watching
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  Speaker 3: Indian Wells yesterday. Indian Wells is a big tennis tournament
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  Speaker 3: that happens in California, and at one point, a plane
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  Speaker 3: audibly flew overhead and the cameraman just immediately cut to
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  Speaker 3: it in the middle of a major tennis match, and
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  Speaker 3: you know that motherfucker was like, well, if history's about
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  Speaker 3: to happen and the West Coast is going to get nuked,
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  Speaker 3: like the FPI says, I at least want to have.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be the guy who got the shot.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be called the fuck. It'll be like the Patterson footage,
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  Speaker 4: but with whatever this guy's last name is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fucking chaos right now. And Hillary Clinton in
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  Speaker 3: this does you're right at least give off that sheen
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  Speaker 3: of well, at least I can drive this car.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like she she sticks to her story,
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  Speaker 4: She sticks to her talking points. Yeah, she doesn't really
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  Speaker 4: let them bait her too terribly much, except for this
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  Speaker 4: incident where she walks out in the middle, which I
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  Speaker 4: think is fairly justified. Oh yeah, you know, she comes
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  Speaker 4: across looking pretty sharp. That's you know, that's probably the
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  Speaker 4: word I would use, is sharp, Like she can clearly
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  Speaker 4: still handle making a political public appearance that's consequential and
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  Speaker 4: high pressure like this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think at least when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein and her husband's interactions with him, I think
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  Speaker 3: she actually comes off kind of believable when she says
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  Speaker 3: she didn't know what jeff Free Epstein was getting up to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was too busy doing her own frazzle drip adventures.
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  Speaker 3: Well that sure, she was drinking adrena chrome all around
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  Speaker 3: the globe. But she was also a senator from New
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  Speaker 3: York right after nine to eleven, which, yeah, that had
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  Speaker 3: to be a pretty stressful gig. She was Secretary of State.
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  Speaker 3: Although when she was Secretary of State credit where credits do?
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  Speaker 3: I think? Nancy Mace asks her a fantastic question at
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  Speaker 3: one point that will get to about her time as
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  Speaker 3: Secretary of State. But I don't know. She comes off
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  Speaker 3: way better in this than Bill Clinton does in his.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe shit, Bill Clinton says.
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  Speaker 4: Bill Clinton looks like he's just relying on a lifetime
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  Speaker 4: of aus Schuck's experience. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I think one of the big differences between her
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  Speaker 3: testimony and his is she's way less wishy washy on
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  Speaker 3: the idea that Trump should be testifying, because they asked
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  Speaker 3: Bill that also, and He's like, nah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: He told me there was never anything going on. It
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  Speaker 3: really feels like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump low key
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  Speaker 3: have each other's backs in this situation.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Trump came out not too long ago and said, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'd hate to see that happened to Bill Clinton. You know,
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  Speaker 4: a good guy. I've always felt the kinship with him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like, you're the reason this is happening, dude.
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  Speaker 3: He told Pam Bondi to do it. So her opening
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  Speaker 3: statement in this makes it pretty clear where this is going.
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  Speaker 3: She says she has no memory of meeting Epstein, She's
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  Speaker 3: never been to the island, she has no knowledge of
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  Speaker 3: his crimes. She calls out the fact that only Democrats
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  Speaker 3: have been called to testify.
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  Speaker 4: I've never eaten his muffins.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. As someone who kind of has to
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  Speaker 3: take a shit right now, I don't want to think
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  Speaker 3: about him too hard.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, they're that potent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just thinking about him, I'm probably turtleheading a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. She calls out the fact that only Democrats
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  Speaker 3: have been called to testify except for Les Wexner, and
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  Speaker 3: that no Republican showed up to talk to that guy,
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  Speaker 3: which we already mentioned. And one of the other things
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  Speaker 3: I have in the notes when it comes to the
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  Speaker 3: idea of well, how could you not know what your
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  Speaker 3: husband was up to if he was up to some
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  Speaker 3: shit like this? And I think you get the answer
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  Speaker 3: in Bill Clinton's testimony, because for every Epstein plane trip,
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  Speaker 3: somehow he knows exactly what they were doing. Oh, we
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  Speaker 3: were going to China for this, it was this charity thing,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And then he gets way more murky
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  Speaker 3: on other details from the past where he's just like, no.
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  Speaker 4: What did you guys talk about, and like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea, I guess. And if this
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  Speaker 3: was a global sex trafficking operation that Bill Clinton was
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  Speaker 3: some way involved in, it's not going to operate without
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  Speaker 3: a cover. You're not just going to book a boy's
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  Speaker 3: trip to fucking Russia.
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  Speaker 4: To go have sex. You're going to gin up some
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  Speaker 4: kind of AIDS charity, yeah, or whatever they were doing.
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  Speaker 3: When I did the tailanh All Murders episode a couple
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago, the guy we interviewed thinks his dad committed
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  Speaker 3: to tailanh All murders, And when he lays out his
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  Speaker 3: timeline of why, he thinks that all of these murders happened,
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  Speaker 3: at least the tainted Tailan Hall being planted on the
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  Speaker 3: shelves happened at points when this guy was out on
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  Speaker 3: family outings with his dad, and his dad would just
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  Speaker 3: disappear for like an hour and then show back up,
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  Speaker 3: And every one of those family outings lines up exactly
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  Speaker 3: with when those tainted pills were placed in supermarkets that
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  Speaker 3: were very close to where all those family outings were happening.
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  Speaker 4: This is also the same methodology for how Dexter figured
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  Speaker 4: out how to catch the Trinity Killer in the season four.
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  Speaker 4: Any deck's heads out there listening.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way a sex trafficking ring wouldn't have that
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  Speaker 3: they would have a cover for all of their trip.
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  Speaker 4: And he's also got the Secret Service at his disposal,
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  Speaker 4: which I bet the probably a lot better lying than
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  Speaker 4: he is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and even when he's like I never signed off
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  Speaker 3: on Secret Service protection, he says that a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: It comes up in Hillary Clinton's testimony too. That doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean there was never a point where you were like, okay, guys,
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  Speaker 3: stay out in the room, please. It doesn't necessarily mean
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  Speaker 3: Secret Service was there every minute with Bill Clinton.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they had a twenty on his cock
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  Speaker 4: every second of every day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're there to protect him, but when he's on
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  Speaker 3: that plane. Also, here's the thing. Do you find it
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  Speaker 3: weird that there's a bed on an airplane? Because I don't.
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  Speaker 3: They keep pointing to that as being this really strange thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, well, it kind of depends. Is that an
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  Speaker 4: Austin Power's rotating bed with crushed green velvet? And you know,
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  Speaker 4: paint me a picture.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds from the testimony like it is a section
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  Speaker 3: of seats that fold down into a bed. That just
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  Speaker 3: sounds like a feature on an airplane. That doesn't sound like.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds like something you'd want in a private if you
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  Speaker 4: needed to take a nap.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think people are probably picturing what you described,
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  Speaker 3: like the Austin Powers fucking shag room. And I mean
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  Speaker 3: not that Epstein's plane wasn't weird and creepy and a
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  Speaker 3: fucking sex crime. It's just I get why you'd want
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  Speaker 3: to bed on an airplane. It's all Devil's advocate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna defend Epstein for much, but a guy
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  Speaker 3: wants to sleep on a flight sometimes. Damn it, you get.
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  Speaker 4: Tired from trafficking all those people I mean, pimpinate easy exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So her opening statement is really solid. It's good that
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  Speaker 3: she entered it into the record because it falls out
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  Speaker 3: Trump a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Do you have any other questions before we begin?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I have an opening statement that I would like
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  Speaker 6: to deliver before we begin, Mister Chairman, ranking member members
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  Speaker 6: of the Committee. As a former United States Center senator,
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  Speaker 6: I have respect for legislative oversight and I expect it's exercise,
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  Speaker 6: as do the American people, to be principled and fearless
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  Speaker 6: in pursuit of truth and accountability. As we all know. However,
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  Speaker 6: too often congressional investigations are partisan political theater, which is
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  Speaker 6: an abdication of duty and an insult to the American people.
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  Speaker 6: This Committee justified it's subpoena to me based on its
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  Speaker 6: assumption that I have information regarding the investigations into the
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  Speaker 6: criminal activities of Jeffrey Epstein and Galaine Maxwell. Let me
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  Speaker 6: be as clear as I can. I do not, As
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  Speaker 6: I stated in my sworn declaration on January thirteenth, I
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  Speaker 6: had no idea about their criminal activities. I do not
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  Speaker 6: recall ever encountering mister Epstein. I never flew on his
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  Speaker 6: plane or visited his island homes or offices. I have
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  Speaker 6: nothing to add to that. Like every decent person, I've
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  Speaker 6: been horrified by what we have learned about their crimes.
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  Speaker 6: It's unfathomable that mister Epstein initially got a slap on
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  Speaker 6: the wrist in two thousand and eight, which allowed him
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  Speaker 6: to continue his predatory practices for another decade. Mister Chairman,
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  Speaker 6: your investigation is supposed to be assessing the federal government's
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  Speaker 6: handling of the investigations and prosecutions of Epstein and his crimes.
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  Speaker 6: You subpoenaed eight law enforcement officials, all of whom ran
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  Speaker 6: the Department of Justice or directed the FBI when Epstein's
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  Speaker 6: crimes were investigated and prosecuted. Of those eight, only one
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  Speaker 6: appeared before the committee. Five of the six former attorneys
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  Speaker 6: general were allowed to submit brief statements stating they had
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  Speaker 6: no information to provide. You have held zero public hearings
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  Speaker 6: refused to allow the media to attend them, including today.
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  Speaker 6: Despite espousing the need for transparency on dozens of occasions,
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  Speaker 6: you have made little effort to call the people who
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  Speaker 6: show up most prominently in the Epstein files, and when
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  Speaker 6: you did, not a single Republican member showed up for
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  Speaker 6: less Wexner's deposition. This institutional failure is designed to protect
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  Speaker 6: one political party and one public official, rather than to
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  Speaker 6: seek truth and justice for the victims and survivors, as
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  Speaker 6: well as informed the public who want to get to
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  Speaker 6: the bottom of this matter. My heart breaks for the survivors,
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  Speaker 6: and I am furious on their behalf. I have spent
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  Speaker 6: my life advocating for women and girls. I have worked
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  Speaker 6: hard to stop the terrible abuses so many women and
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  Speaker 6: girls face here and around the world, including human trafficking,
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  Speaker 6: forced labor, domestic violence, and sexual slavery. For too long,
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  Speaker 6: these have been largely invisible crimes or not treated as
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  Speaker 6: crimes at all. But the survivors are real, and they
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  Speaker 6: are entitled to justice. In Southeast Asia, I met girls
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  Speaker 6: as young as twelve years old who had been forced
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  Speaker 6: into prostitution and raped repeatedly. Some were dying of aids.
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  Speaker 6: In Eastern Europe, I met mothers who told me how
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  Speaker 6: they lost their daughters to trafficking and did not know
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  Speaker 6: where to turn. In settings around the world, I met
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  Speaker 6: survivors trying to rebuild their lives and help rescue others,
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  Speaker 6: with little support from people in power who too often
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  Speaker 6: turned a blind eye and a cold shoulder. If you
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  Speaker 6: are new to this issue, let me tell you Jeffrey
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  Speaker 6: Epstein was a highness individual, but he's far from alone.
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  Speaker 6: This is not a one off tabloid sensation or political scandal.
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  Speaker 6: It is a global scourge with an unimaginable human toll.
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  Speaker 6: My work combating sex trafficking goes back to my days
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  Speaker 6: as first Lady. I worked to pass the first federal
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  Speaker 6: legislation against trafficking, and was proud that my husband signed
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  Speaker 6: the Trafficking Victims Protection Act, which increased support for survivors
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  Speaker 6: and gave prosecutors better tools for going after traffickers. As
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  Speaker 6: Secretary of State, I appointed a former federal prosecutor Lucy
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  Speaker 6: Debais to ramp up our global anti trafficking efforts. I
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  Speaker 6: oversaw nearly one hundred and seventy anti trafficking programs in
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  Speaker 6: seventy nations and directly pressed foreign leaders to crack down
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  Speaker 6: on trafficking networks in their countries. Every year, we published
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  Speaker 6: a global report to shine a light on abuses. The
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  Speaker 6: findings of those reports triggered sanctions on countries failing to
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  Speaker 6: make progress, so they became a powerful diplomatic tool to
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  Speaker 6: drive concrete action. I insisted that the United States be
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  Speaker 6: included in the report for the first time ever in
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  Speaker 6: twenty eleven, because we must hold ourselves not just to
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  Speaker 6: the same standard as the rest of the world, but
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  Speaker 6: to an even higher one. Sex trafficking and modern slavery
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  Speaker 6: should have no place in America none. Infuriatingly, the Trump
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  Speaker 6: administration gutted the Trafficking in Persons Office at the State Department,
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  Speaker 6: cutting more than seventy percent of the career civil and
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  Speaker 6: foreign service expert who worked so hard to prevent trafficking crimes.
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  Speaker 6: The annual trafficking report required by law was delayed for months.
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  Speaker 6: The message from the Trump administration to the American people
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  Speaker 6: and the world could not be clearer. Combating human trafficking
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  Speaker 6: is no longer an American priority under the Trump White House.
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  Speaker 6: That's a tragedy, it's a scandal, and it deserves vigorous
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  Speaker 6: investigation and oversight. A committee endeavoring to stopping human trafficking
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  Speaker 6: would seek to understand what specific steps are needed to
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  Speaker 6: fix a legal system that allowed Epstein to get away
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  Speaker 6: with his crimes. A committee run by elected officials with
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  Speaker 6: a commitment to transparency would ensure the full release of
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  Speaker 6: all the files. It would ensure that the lawful redactions
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  Speaker 6: of those files protected the victims and survivors, not powerful
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  Speaker 6: men and political allies. It would get to the bottom
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  Speaker 6: of reports that DOJ withheld FBI interviews in which a
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  Speaker 6: survivor accuses President Trump of crimes. It would subpoena anyone
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  Speaker 6: who asked on which night there would be the wildest
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  Speaker 6: party on Epstein's island. It would demand testimony from prosecutors
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  Speaker 6: from Florida, New York and the Department of Justice about
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  Speaker 6: why they gave Epstein a sweetheart deal and chose not
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  Speaker 6: to pursue others who may have been implicated in his crimes.
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  Speaker 6: And it would demand that Secretary of Rubio and Attorney
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  Speaker 6: General Bondie testify about why this administration is abandoning survivors
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  Speaker 6: and playing into the hands of traffickers. It would seek
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  Speaker 6: out advocates and law enforcement of officials on the front
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  Speaker 6: lines of the fight against human trafficking and ask them
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  Speaker 6: what support they need. And it would put forth legislation
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  Speaker 6: to provide more resources and force this administration to end.
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  Speaker 6: But that's not happening. Instead, you have compelled me to testify,
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  Speaker 6: fully aware that I have no knowledge that would assist
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  Speaker 6: your investigation in order to distract from President Trump's actions
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  Speaker 6: and to cover them up despite legitimate calls for answers.
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  Speaker 6: If this committee is serious about learning the truth about
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  Speaker 6: Epstein's trafficking crimes, it would not rely on press gaggles
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  Speaker 6: to get answers from our current president on his involvement.
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  Speaker 6: It would ask him directly under oath about the tens
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  Speaker 6: of thousands of times he shows up in the Epstein files.
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  Speaker 6: If the majority was serious, it would not waste time
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  Speaker 6: on phishing expeditions. There is too much to be done.
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  Speaker 6: What is being held back, who is being protected, and
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  Speaker 6: why the cover up? So my challenge to you, mister Chairman,
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  Speaker 6: and members of this committee is the same challenge I
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  Speaker 6: put to myself throughout my long service to this nation,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: how to be worthy of the trust of the American
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: people that they have given two. They expect statesmanship, not damesmanship,
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: leading not grand standing, And they expect you to use
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: your power to get to the truth and to do
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: more to help survivors of Epstein's crimes, as well as
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: the millions more who are victims of sex trafficking in
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: this country and around the world.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So that is at least on the record now. She
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: definitely again goes way harder on Trump than he did.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: There is a really frustrating moment where they read a
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: list of names and ask if she ever talked to
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: any of them about Jeffrey Epstein, and she pretty much
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: just says no, except Huma Aberdeen, who she talked to
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: to prepare for this.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Which is nice to know that they're still friends.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and man, they list every person in the United States.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: When they list those names, it takes forever. I was
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: surprised we weren't on the list. Yeah, because she has
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: talked to us about Jeffrey Epstein and we're ready to testify.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Anyone wants to call us up, that's not true. It's
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: just Connor. Let's talk to her about it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I do have pretty vivid, photorealistic hallucinations of Hillary Clinton,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: and we do get into Epstein sometimes.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: So they ask a bunch about Julayne Maxwell. Again, big
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: difference between her and Bill because Bill's clearly hiding something.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Julayne Maxwell and Hillary.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: They fucked. There's no way they didn't fuck.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: She's too saucy, she's too you know what I mean.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Like she was known for bringing out like straws with
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: little penises on the end of him, like you'd have
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: it as like a gag gifted a bachelorette party. Bill
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Clinton could not resist this kind of overt sexuality for
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: more than twenty twenty five minutes.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: No, and the things he denies having knowledge of in
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: his deposition, like taking a private jet with Julayne Maxwell
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and one other person to India in I think two
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: thousand and three. He's like, yeah, I don't know, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: don't know. If I remember that, motherfucker, you would remember
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that it's.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: A long flight.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a long flight, and a long flight to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: be on with just two other people. Was there even
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: a fucking pilot or did the third person just fly
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the plane?
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: This was probably before podcasts were invented. He couldn't even
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: you know, put on some NPR and has known out.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Even your iPod wasn't holding a whole lot of music
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: at that point.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you had two hundred songs, Yeah, all of them.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: So she, on the other hand, talks about Julaanne Maxwell
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: as just kind of a random associate.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Not really, she just weasels her way in. Yeah, she
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: said like she wasn't coming to the wedding because we
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: didn't invite her. She was just dating a friend.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: The only thing that's weird is the Clinton Foundation has
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: this offshoot called the Clinton Global Initiative, and Julaanne Maxwell
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: swears up and down that she was like a formative
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: member of that. And Bill Clinton doesn't completely corroborate that
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: in his testimony, but he doesn't shoot it down either,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: And Hillary is just like, I don't fucking know, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: wasn't involved in that at the time. And again, in
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: her defense, that was all set up while she was
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: either serving as a senator or Secretary of State, so
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: maybe she did not have any of that knowledge.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got a pretty good excuse for twelve years. Yeah, turn,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: well how long was she better? Don't know exactly how
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: long she's a senator. There have four year terms. Yeah,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I guess it would have been just from two thousand
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: election to Obama because then she got pumped up to
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the Secretary of State, So it would have been eight years,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: right about.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: No, I don't want the AI version. Yeah, about eight years.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: She oh, almost exactly eight years. She resigned on January
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: twenty first, two thousand and nine to become Secretary of State.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got twelve years of impunity there. You know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: you've got to use him. Yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: So Nancy Mace.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Our favorite congresswoman.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: She and Lauren Bobert are both in the booth for this,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and Lauren Bobert causes a big old ruckus, which we'll
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: talk about in a second.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: In fact, it's been known hystorically as the Bobert ruckus.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that didn't happen at a screening of
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Book of Mormon. Is that Book of Mormon where she
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: got jerked off by a dude in the audience. Oh God,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that. Yea, yeah, good times. So Nancy
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Mace gets to ask some questions, and she won makes
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: a really good reference because at one point Hillary Clinton
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: starts going off on how unnecessary this all is, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Nancy Mace goes, oh, do you think the Epstein files
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: are a vast right wing conspiracy? Which that is one
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: of Hillary Clinton's most famous quotes is there is a
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: vast right wing conspiracy against my husband. And what's funny
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: is she was right. She was right. But it's still
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: a nice reference on Nancy Mace's part. And also this
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: is where Nancy Mace, I think, asks some decent questions,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: which are, how if one of your roles as Secretary
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: of State was fighting global sex trafficking, how would you
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: not have become at least a little familiar with Jeffrey
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Epstein after he was arrested and prosecuted in two thousand
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: and eight.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: I think she's too busy fomenting war in Libya, if
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: I recall correctly.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing could go either way, because at
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: that point, I'm willing to buy that she didn't know
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: anything about what her husband may have been getting up
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: to with Jeffrey Epstein in the years before that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: And I also kind of believe that she wasn't on
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Conspiracy Theories dot Com with me and Adam go looking,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: you know, like, oh, who's this Jeffrey Epstein guy.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But at the same time, I could see her
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: at this point in history being like, all right, well
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Bill fucked up and that's going to take the whole
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: family down. We might want to see what we can
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: do to mitigate this disaster. And maybe she did lean
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: on some people in her role as Secretary of State
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to help make the Epstein thing go away a little bit.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: It's definitely plausible.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: A lot of the Republican questioning of her centers around
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: well did you and build once this all came out,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: did you ever talk to him about what he was
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: doing with underage girls or whether your husband was involved?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And she's just like, I'm not going to talk about
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: private family conversations.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: That's another line that comes up quite a lot.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know, I feel like in that case,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: it's a family conversation I would want to know about.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I think it's definitely relevant to the case. Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: They also show her pictures of her husband getting massages
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: from a woman who we live That.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Was uncomfortable for me to watch.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we later found out that woman was underage, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: she said she doesn't want to speculate on those picks.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know what we were expecting her to say
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: other than that, yeah, oh that dirty dog. Yeah. But
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: then it happens, and this is actually bad timing for
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Republicans because they actually, I think, had Hillary Clinton cornered
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: a little bit because she's talking so much about how
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: she had no interactions with Epstein, didn't deal with him
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: at all, and then the Republican side brings up this
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: email from someone name. It's kind of hard to follow
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the way they lay it out, but I believe Sarah
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Kay is the person on the Clinton side who sent
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: this email that was apparently an invite to Jeffrey Epstein
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to come to this gala that Hillary Clinton was throwing
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: for a friend of hers who was running for Congress.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: And they get a reply that says, sorry, Jeffrey cannot
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: attend blah blah blah. It mentions meeting Hillary Clinton. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: this is right after Clinton being like, nah, I had
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: no fucking interactions with Epstein at all. I didn't even
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: know the guy. I never talked to him. Her stance
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: on Jeffrey Epstein as they met once at a White
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: House event in nineteen ninety three.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: She has no memory of it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, has otherwise no relationship, and this email that they
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: bring up is kind of cornering her a little bit.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: And then it happens at around the one hour and
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: nineteen minute mark, one of Clinton's lawyers stops the deposition
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: to complain that someone in the room. Turns out its
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Lauren Bobert was taking pictures of Clinton's testimony and posting
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: them to social media, and Hillary Clinton fucking snaps.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Excuse me?
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: Can I interrupt?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I have another photos that are being released of the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: secretary as she is testifying from inside this room. Can
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: you please advise me as to whether or not that's
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: permissible and consistent with the rules, particularly given that we
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: have asked for public hearing. If there are photos that
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: are being released of the secretary she is testifying, can
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you please explain how.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: We've done with this. If you guys are doing that,
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: I am done. You can pull me a contempt from
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: now until the cows come home.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: This is just typical behavior.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Oh for heaven, I would like to understand how that's promissible?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Was It doesn't matter.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: We all are abiding by the same rules.
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: I will take that down.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would like to take a break at
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: this movie I've got for now.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Go off the record. Record never passed up an opportunity
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: for a hard reset on the proceedings.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Republicans did it to themselves because they were
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the ones who laid out all these rules, including one
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: that no media was to be allowed in the room.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: So Clinton leaves the room and then comes back and
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: she is fucking seething. I know everyone's going to get
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: this reference, but she is breathing like the Korean GPS
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: in the twenty tens remake of the film National Lampoon's Vacation.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's universal.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nailed it, nailed it. Everyone knows what I'm talking about.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: But she's pissed. She is fucking salty.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: And here I thought that Hillary Clinton didn't show up
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: on photographs.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Right, that's supposed to be the thing. So this turns
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: into a hole back and forth. Her lawyers are pissed,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and on the Republican side, they're like, okay, yeah, but
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: we're also kind of upset that Hillary Clinton's opening statement
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: got leaked before she actually made it, and her lawyer
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: goes provided to the press, not leaked. We gave it
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: to the press, just like Les Wexner did before his
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: opening state. So again it's Republicans just making terrible fucking
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: counters to the idea of why are you just focusing
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: on Bill and Hillary Clinton? And they really don't have
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: an answer for that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's even more corroborating evidence for a Trump
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: sex crime than there is a Bill Clinton's sex crime.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Like they go through the Bill Clinton evidence in this deposition,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: and he's very le He's got an excuse for most
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: of it. Like you said, He's like, oh, that trip
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: was about this, This trip is about that, yeah, whatever, whatever.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Whereas Trump, it's like, Okay, he's on record spending hours
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: at Epstein's house with one of his victims. Everyone knows
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Epstein's house is bugged to the high heavens. What were
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: they doing for hours? I mean they certainly weren't like
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: sitting on our connect.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: For Yeah, and the evidence they do present to try
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and haint the Clintons as kind of the only aggressors here,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: even then they're manipulating it. In a lot of cases.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: They keep bringing up this interview Todd Blanche did with
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Julayanne Maxwell, which Todd Blanche is, I believe attorney general
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: right now of the United States, Deputy Attorney General some
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: shit like that, but not suspiciously at all. He very
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: recently went and had a prison interview with Julaane Maxwell,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and after that interview she got transferred to the most
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: minimum security prison possible.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: It's going to build daycare center.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And they put so much weight on the things
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: that she said in that meeting with Todd Blanche when
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: it's convenient for them, let they ignore things like the
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: fact that during this conversation with Julayne Maxwell, Todd Blanche
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: just asked her straight up was there any connection between
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein and Hillary Clinton? And Jelaine Maxwell just says no.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: She just straight up says no. So this whole line
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of questioning about, oh, how well did you know Jelaane,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: they've already asked, They've already asked the source herself, and
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: she was like, no.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Gulaine trying to save her ass the hardest.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And she does kind of implicate Bill Clinton
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: in her statements to Todd Blant, but not Hillary Clinton,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: which raises the question of why the fuck is Hillary
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Clinton here? It feels like posturing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just extracting a pound of flesh from her again
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: for daring to run against Trump.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: One of the things the Democrat side brings up, because
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: these questions are split between majority and minority. Majority is
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Republicans asking questions. Minority is Democrats. And one of the
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: things Democrats bring up about the picture. There's a picture
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: from nineteen ninety three of Epstein at this White House event,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: and I believe Hillary Clinton in the picture also, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Republicans are like, what's up with that? You don't know
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the guy, but you're in a picture with him. And
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: what comes up in the Democrat side of questioning is, well,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: how many events are there at the White House every year?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: How many people come to those events? Now multiply that
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: by eight years. How many people do you think Hillary
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Clinton has taken a fucking picture with? Yeah, and you're
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: expecting her to remember every single person. That's unrealistic. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: it's also like that could be a picture with anyone.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: It's like a tolling comedian, like I bought a T
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: shirt at one of your gigs nine years ago. You
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: don't you know who I am?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't. They don't, So we should bring up
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: a famous misconception about stuff like this. There's this famous
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: belief that you can tell if a person's lying just
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: by what direction they look when they answer a question.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: And I think it's if they look to the left,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: they're lying. If they look to the right, they're telling
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the truth that's not actually true.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like the definition of an old wives tale.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: It's more when you're looking back and forth, really shift
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: to Yeah, it's more along the lines of when people
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: are accessing memories, they look one way, and when they're
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: accessing like just concrete facts and information, they look a
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: different way.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: And that varies from person to person. So it's really
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: a useless metric, which is just to say, you'll see
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: a bunch of that with Hillary Clinton, where she'll be
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: answering the question and she might look off to the
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: left or to the right, And I know there is
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: some belief out there that that's all you need to
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: know if she's lying. And it's not just like shaking.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Wait till we get into the Bill Clinton deposition. There is,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: to quote the title of a famous rock and roll song,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of shaking going on, yeah, Bill Clinton.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Which hey, I just got to restless lake syndrome. I'm
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: not nervous, you know, I'm just bored.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: And that is when you're watching an interrogation. You got
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: to take stuff like that into account too. Is someone shaking, sure,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: but is it for medical reasons? Is it forty fucking
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: degrees in that room and they're only wearing a T shirt,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: then that isn't necessarily an indicator of whether they're lying.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: But Hillary Clinton brings up an interesting thing about Trump,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and I don't really remember the context, but she talks
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: about Trump having a tell, and I think she's kind
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: of right. Yeah, if you look back historically, the.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Gist is classic projection.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when Trump is about to be caught doing something,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: he will accuse other people of having done that same thing.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: And you see that so much with Trump, you see
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: it with Republicans in this deposition. Anytime she says something
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: that is incriminating about Trump, the only response from the
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: majority side is Okay, but what about what your husband
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: did or what about what Biden did? Letting all those
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: immigrants in I think one of the biggest misconceptions among
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: right wingers right now, and there's a lot of them,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: but I think maybe the biggest is that anyone fucking
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: like Joe Biden. Yeah, really, no one fucking liked Joe Biden.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: You fucking kidding me, No one gives a shit. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: think Republicans honestly think everyone who doesn't love Trump loves
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden the way they love Trump.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: When he was like the quintessential compromise figure, hold your
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: nose and just do it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the worst fucking choice to run. He
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: absolutely should not have run again.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say it again. Thanks Obama for that
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: phone call after Bernie one, all those primaries, Yeah, getting
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: everybody to drop out and rally around the worst fucking choice.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep, thanks Obama. We walked our way into fascism
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: because we didn't want to hurt motherfucker's feelings.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was his turn.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good times. And meanwhile Hillary Clinton is sitting here like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: remember when it was my turn? Anyway?
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah pretty good.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Huh So. Yeah, I thought the stuff about Trump having
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: that tell was interesting. It's a reference to his truth
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: social pope saying Democrats should be investigated after the Epstein
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: files started being released.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Look at Iran. How many times did he say that
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Barack Obona was going to start a warn Iran because
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: he had low approval rating. He thinks that's what you
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: do when you have a low approval rating. Oh, you
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: start a Warren Iran and then people would rally round
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: the flag.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. She also gets it on record that
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green said Trump pressured Pam Bondi into not
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: releasing the files. And she again keeps going back to
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the point that this committee is a good thing, but
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: that they need to actually do their job. And one
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: of the best examples of that happens around the two hour,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: twenty minute March. She, meaning Hillary Clinton, calls out Trump's
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: history being named in sexual assault lawsuits in various criminalities
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: because someone had asked her, you know, if you were
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: investigating something like this as a lawyer, what kind of
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: person would you be looking for, And she was like, Oh,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, someone with a history of being named
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: in sexual assault loss Maybe someone who's been actually found
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: liable in a sexual assault lawsuit. Maybe someone with a
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: lot of criminality in their background, maybe like thirty four
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: recent convictions. You know, maybe you'd want to talk to
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: people like that. And the Republican side gets really upset
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: about this. And they start firing back with all these
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: questions about, oh well, what about Bill Clinton being named
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: in all these lawsuits? What about Bill Clinton's criminality? And
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: at one point, I mean, she doesn't just outright say it,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: but she kind of says, yeah, fuck face, that's my point.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: He's testifying tomorrow. Trump's not. So they are making her
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: point by saying, oh, well, what about all the stuff
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: your husband did? And she's like, yeah, that's why he's
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: here testifying. Now what about Trump? And they're just like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know, So.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: You're telling me what could have been a meaningful inquiry
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: to the crimes of one of the histories most notoriously
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: connected and mysterious motherfucker's has turned into political theater. Adam,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I don't believe in this country.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: In America no less, go figure. I think we've talked
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: about how surprised I am that Republicans haven't tried to
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: turn this into an Operation car Wash kind of thing
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and just solely take down Democrats. I think that's absolutely
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: where this is going.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Is that not what they did with the files, scrubbing
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Trump out of ninety percent of them, you know.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And one of the things they keep hitting on Throughout this,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: when they're asking questions, they keep saying, well, one of
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the points of this is to find out how if
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence operative, how was he able
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: to infiltrate the highest levels of the government. And everything
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: they point to is happening under either Bill Clinton, Barack Obama,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: or Joe Biden. They are absolutely going to paint this as, oh,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Democrats are the reason this spy infiltrated our democracy, and
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Democrats need to be dealt with because that.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it didn't come out under Joe Biden because
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: he was covering it up and not because he was
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: literally fell asleep and forgot about it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I don't think it's even gonna be a
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: sex trafficking angle. I think it's gonna be you let
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: a spy in, and now the Democratic Party is banned
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: from the twenty twenty eight elections or some shit.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: They're gonna have to gin up some kind of reason,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: so I might as well be that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna have to be something. So you see
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: that a bunch just Republicans really driving home the point
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: that Trump should be testifying also, but doing it inadvertently
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: by constantly pointing to Bill Clinton, and Joe Biden. Sure,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: get them all here, all three of them. That's fine.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Would love to watch Joe Biden testify with brain cancer
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: right now. That would be probably pretty funny.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried to make him do that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Listen, Jack, I never knew the epcene.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I thought corn pop for you, man, remember the corn
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: pop story?
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, corn pop is unbelievable. Leave him in the rain barrel,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: get him rusty.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: My favorite thing about it is that it was true.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Someone verified that. Shit, there wasn't a corn pop Listen.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Not the kind of story you make up.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that part turns really contentious, and it mostly
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: just comes off as Republicans being mad that Trump got
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: called out. I'll tell you the I don't know how
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: many clips of this have been going around, but something
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: that comes up. They show it to Hillary Clinton and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Bill Clinton both when they're asking about possible ties between
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: intelligence agencies. In Epstein is a passport that apparently clearly
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: has Jeffrey Epstein's picture on it, but it's under a
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: completely different name.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Are we sure that's not just one of Anthony Bourdain's
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: old passports?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Those two do look a lot alike. Yeah, it was
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Anthony Bourdain intelligence. We don't know that he wasn't He
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: was intelligent. He was, and he certainly was able to
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: go to the areas of countries that I would not
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: go to, even if the cheek meat on that pig
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: is especially great.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I think he could scam him his way into just
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: about any sort of line of work just by sort
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: of opining about like why Mexican coke used to taste
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: better or something.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: He was a charismatic guy.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: I love taking in and out hamburgers. We don't need cheese.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: This cheese like substance will do nicely.
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I don't get cheese on in and out burgers. Neither
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: do I. Yeah, I just said, but I do like
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: that take. I do the most basic shit. I do
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: ketchup mustard and then the chilies and that's it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I get the chilies. YEA, grilled onions.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Those chilies are fucking on point next level.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Yep. So spicier than these damn interviews.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these the Hillary Clinton interview, it's kind of just
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: this over and over they both are. You hear the
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: same questions a lot. You even hear people apologizing for
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: having to ask the same questions over and over. I
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: think the only really interesting detail about the Clintons and
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton and Julaane Maxwell is why was she at
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: your daughter's wedding?
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: She said she was dating a friend. Yeah, I could
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: see Gleaine just dating a guy just to get invited
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: to weddings, you know.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's a point. The guy's name was I
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: think Ted Waite. And they asked Bill Clinton about it
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: in his deposition and he's like, well, Ted and Glaine
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: started going together? Was this in grade school? Because I
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: haven't heard anyone say going together for decades? Bill Clinton,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: that is charming as fuck.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: He wanted to say banging, And there's the only thing you
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: could think of.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: And I actually like, I kind of have a theory
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: about this in that let's theater of the mind. Let's
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: say Bill Clinton was not engaging in sexual acts with
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: underage girls. Rape is what they call it. Yeah, let's
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: say that wasn't happened. Wouldn't it still be pretty effective
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: for Jeffrey Epstein and Glainne Maxwell to just be in
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: his orbit while they're doing all this sex trafficking shit.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Because even if we're never going to prove that Bill
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Clinton was doing that. He's also never going to prove that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: He wasn't, and you can profit off the rumor.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And one of the things you mentioned on a
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: previous episode is if he was getting blackmailed. It was
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: in the analog era when it wasn't as easy to
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: keep records of shit like this.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: You had to cut physical tape in order to black mail,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: so you know what I mean.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: They here's the thing. Bill Clinton is a charming dude.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: He charms the shit out of the room in his deposition,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: and I think his most charming moment they're talking about
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: in email exchange and they're like, did you send a
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: lot of emails from this email address? And he's like,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I've sent two emails in my life?
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Yep. I love that.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: That was many names, both emails he's ever sent in
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: his life.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, email John Glenn when he was.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Fucking amazing.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I should say too that the Clintons have an amazing
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: lawyer who every time someone asked a question that I
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: probably would have asked, which is like, Hillary, when did
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: you first think that Jeffrey Epstein might be intelligence? And
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: then she's like, so you're asking for my client's opinion.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: How could that possibly influence the direction of this case.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, that's a good point. She shuts down
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: every question that's not technically valid, like instantaneously and very
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: curtly and effectively. Yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: And for some reason, in Hillary's deposition, the lawyer you're
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: talking about is mostly cropped out of the video, and
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: then she's clearly visible alongside Bill Clinton in his I
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's some weird back room Republican choice. Yeah,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but definitely it's the same lawyer in
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: both of them, because I was wondering that too. That lawyer.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: She really steals the scene in a lot of moments.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in this she.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Will say something that she's clearly angry about, the biggest
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: smile on her face. Yes, I love that part.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Very poised as well.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, she's great. Yeah, she was excellent. She's the
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: one who I mentioned earlier when if he was reading
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: something for too long and his hand was shaking, she
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: would just snatch it and put it down because it
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: is a bad look. I'm sure there are clips out
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: there of Clinton's hand shaking in this and people being like,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: what's he's so nervous about?
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: It's pretty nervous about being eighty years old. You know
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: did that was when I worked with Fred Willard. But
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: right before he died, he was shaking when he held
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: the paper. Oh really, I don't think it was because
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: he was fucking nervous to read my love line script.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: He didn't want to let you down. Connor.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: The only thing. Right near the end of Hillary's deposition,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a few weird things happened. One UFO's come up for
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: some reason, which here for it. Yeah, so much, And
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: it seemed like she kind of was too. She was like, yeah,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: fucking let's talk about it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: So I'm going to begin with the lighthearted different questions,
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: and you're welcome to ignore them or if you want to.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: But while I have you here, I just have to ask.
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: So, when your husband was president, it is Lawrence Rockefeller
• 47:13
  Speaker 10: had an effort to try to disclose UFOs UAPs When.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: You were running for president.
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: John Podesta publicly stated that you would have disclose these
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: files if given the chance, if you had been president.
• 47:27
  Speaker 10: Are you pleased to see that these files may be disclosed?
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Finally, I am pleased, As I say, I think they
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: have to be carefully scrutinized so that no national security
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: information is disclosed, but this is an issue of real
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: importance to so many people, and I think whatever can
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: be disclosed should be disclosed.
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: Was there a program that specifically that that was referencing
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: that you were aware of?
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: I was not. As you mentioned, John Podesta, who was
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: one of my advisors, was deeply interested in the issue,
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: and if I had been elected, I certainly would have
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: listened to his advice.
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: Well, thank you for indulgence on that.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I think she actually said that in her campaign going
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: after the community college vote, I'm going to declassify all
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: the alien shit.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: And I think they were no joke, just trying to
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: get her to say something nice about Trump. I think
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: they were trying to be like, well, Trump released all
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: those UFO files, don't you want to do you want
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: to give him credit for that? But it never really
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: got around to that because Pizzagate came up also, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Hills really went off the rails over that.
• 48:40
  Speaker 11: In past public statements, as in twenty seventeen speeches and interviews,
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: you described pizza Gate as a baseless conspiracy theory alleging
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: you and others ran a child sex trafficking ring from
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: a Washington Pizzeri based Pizzeri basement. Have you reviewed any
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: twenty twenty five twenty twenty six EPSOS files that were
• 49:01
  Speaker 11: released that you believe reference or relate to those specific
• 49:06
  Speaker 11: twenty sixteen claims regarding the Podesta emails comet ping pong
• 49:11
  Speaker 11: pizza used as code.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Possibly, I'm sorry disgusting her about whether she's reviewed emails
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: in that EPSTEIN file was related to the wacky Pizzagate excuse.
• 49:22
  Speaker 11: Could characterize it however you want. I just would like
• 49:24
  Speaker 11: to know if she's familiar with any of them.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So your question is about whether or not she has
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: reviewed any emails in the EPSTEIN release files about Pizzagate.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: Correct, Pizzagate was totally made up. It was an outrageous
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: allegation that ended up hurting a number of people that
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: caused a deranged young man to show up with his
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: assault rifle and shoot up a local pizzaiha, I can't
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: believe you're even referencing it.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: You should be there.
• 50:00
  Speaker 11: There are connections to the language.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Believe there are.
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know what can people believe at it?
• 50:08
  Speaker 11: But you've accused certain parties and I think even right
• 50:10
  Speaker 11: now today of promoting uh slow walking information in ways
• 50:16
  Speaker 11: that fuels conspiracies and your view, did any Epstein Maxwell
• 50:22
  Speaker 11: related investigations or file handling pre or posts twenty nineteen
• 50:28
  Speaker 11: contribute to or intersects with the spread of pizzagate style
• 50:33
  Speaker 11: theories about democrat figures.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: Objection, I have a way of answer that the speculation ridiculously.
• 50:42
  Speaker 11: Have you or your representatives identified any Epstein file content
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: that has been misinterpreted online to revive those claims, and
• 50:50
  Speaker 11: what steps, if any, have you taken to clarify.
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: Again objects the ground.
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: I think that this is all very reasonable.
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I don't follow the crazy conspiracy
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: stories that are online. I regret that anybody does. I
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: find it quite sad, but also disturbing that people would
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: believe some of what is put forth like pizzagate. So
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: I have taken no steps to review anything.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Do you think I have.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: Any connection to something which I think is totally bogus?
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: The one part I found interesting this had to either
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: be Nancy Mace or Laura Bobert. One of them is like,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: can you comment on the folder found on Anthony Wiener's
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: computer that was labeled insurance and her lawyer's snack.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Yes. They mobilized quickly.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is all hands on deck to shut that
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: shit down.
• 51:54
  Speaker 11: Are you aware of any files that were on Anthony
• 51:58
  Speaker 11: Wiener's laptop folder that was titled Insurance Life Insurance with
• 52:05
  Speaker 11: a ZIP file titled.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Chairman, Is this within the scope?
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Mister chairman?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Chairman rules that it's not with mister based on what
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: you said in the public hearing. Is this within the scope?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: You can for a moment, mister chairman, is this within
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the scope?
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Record goes off the record for a second, and then
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: we come back and there is no more talk of
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: that folder on Anthony Wiener's computer, but they do bring
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: up an Epstein email where he says, hey, Hillary Clinton
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: is prettier in person, as if that's some kind of
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: smoking gun.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: I think she also says, I'll take that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She goes, I'm not going to object to that.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Good for her, Hillary Rodham, she got me all right,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: that's all I gotta say. Hillary Rodham is cute.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: And then the big Kicker will just play this on
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: the pod before we get to talking about Bill Clinton.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: They ask her one more time if she's been to
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Epstein Island. I think there are clips of this out there,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: and she loses her shit because she has already said
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: so many times by this point, I have not been
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: to Epstein, And this was her response.
• 53:14
  Speaker 12: Secretary Clinton, We've touched on this a little bit, but
• 53:19
  Speaker 12: just to make sure the record is totally clear here,
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: you have said that you've never been to mister Epstein's island.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Is that correct?
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: You know what, I am so tired of answering that question.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: If you have one sentilla of evidence to the contrary,
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: put it forward. I have never been on his island period.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: I've never been in his homes, his offices, his anything.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: So I don't know how many times you have to
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: say the same thing over and over and over again.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: And I just am struggling with the relevance of all
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: of this. But no, I never have been.
• 53:57
  Speaker 12: And based off that response, I would include, you've never
• 53:59
  Speaker 12: been mister Epstein's Manhattan town home.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: I have not his New Mexico ranch.
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: No.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: I have not his Palm Beach residents.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: No.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: I have not his Paris apartment.
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: Didn't know he had one.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: I haven't been there.
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: I also find it very interesting because I went back
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: and looked at the transcripts of all of your other depositions,
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: and none of the Republicans asked a single question to
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: any witness about Jeffrey Epstein or any question that would
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: help provide answers for his victims, to any of the
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: people you deposed. In fact, the only questions that were
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: asked were asked by the Chairman to Attorney General Barr.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: And what were they about. They weren't about Jeffrey Epstein,
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: they weren't about Gallaine Maxwell. They weren't about victims and survivors.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: They were General Barr. I may jump in for a
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: couple of questions. Were you aware of the involvement of
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: Hillary Clint and the Clinton campaign in the Russian collusion
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: investigation involving President the deposition of Miss Clinton. Well, I'm
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: just saying you have kept me here for hours, asking
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: the same questions over and over again. I've given the
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: same answers over and over again. Not a single Republican
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: at any of your depositions has asked a question about
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: Epstein or Maxwell. And it does seem to me that
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: if the members were truly interested in getting to the truth,
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: you would have asked bar Costa Wexter. You didn't even show.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Up at Secretary.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: We're very close to finishing, Madam Secretary.
• 55:40
  Speaker 12: Did Jeffrey Epstein ever request any meetings with your state
• 55:44
  Speaker 12: department officials?
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: Not that I'm aware of.
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: That's been asked to answer Castle, she says she's never
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: talked to him.
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: She said that repeatedly.
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: Well, I guess they have to hear it over and
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: over again for it to I think, yeah, whatever.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: And hey, we're bad. We should talk about Bill Clinton's depot.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Right, I mean we talked about Hillary.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Are we calling them depots? I think we are right.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: It's got depot babies.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got to be a term they use in law.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Right off the bat, the fact that Bill Clinton's wearing
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: an Apple watch band that does not coordinate with his
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: fit is infuriate to me.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: For gods, the leader of the free world. You'd think
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: someone on your staff could coordinate your tie to your
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Apple watch band.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I got a bag full of watch bands in my closet.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: You're talking Apple watch or I have a Fitbit. Now.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: These things are like four bucks, just buy a bunch,
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: change them.
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: But no.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: On the same day I watched the Bill Clinton deposition,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I watched an episode of Scariest House in America and
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: the host, comedian Redta, was wearing the same fucking orange
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Apple watch as Bill Clinton. You shouldn't be wearing the
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: same watch as REDDA in your professional capacity as former president.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: One of the fake metal ones that classed apple Yeah
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Jazz it up or at least make it blue like
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: your suit, come on. But he does immediately look like
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: he's having way more fun than Hillary did.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: That was always their dynamic, was like she was kind
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: of like the nerdy bookworm one. He was like the
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: fucking gregarious life of the party guy. Yeah, and it
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: just kind of worked. I don't know.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: There have been clips floating around of Bill Clinton smiling
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: and laughing while looking through some of these things.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's just trimming and seeing it but great, good dubs.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of been the vibe of the clips,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: is why the fuck are you smiling and laughing while
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: looking at all this stuff? They actually ask him during
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: his deposition, and he goes, because my conscience is clear.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: It's not a terrible answer.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: It freaking answer. Yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: He's like, all this shit happened before me. I didn't
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: know about any of this shit, and I was there
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: doing charity shit, Bud.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: I thought I was getting the mist from someone of
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: legal age.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing weird about a plane stacked with women who
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: give massages to creepy old men. It's perfectly normal.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: That actually does sound like it's probably a lot more
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: normal than you'd want it to be.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure Bill Clinton smiled a whole lot during
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: the you agree to tell the truth stuff. You can
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: go watch it. I'm not joking. He did one of
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: the rules they have. There's no breaks mid question. That
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: seems fair our trivia rules. You don't want them to
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: go google it. So right up top with Bill Clinton's deposition,
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: there's a admonishment to Lauren Bobert over having posted that
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: picture of Hillary Clinton the day before, So it starts
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: off a little awkward.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: It's nice to see him stand by his woman, though,
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and his opening statement is more of that. The
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: whole theme is just kind of I get why I'm here?
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Why is my fucking wife here? What are you doing?
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: And do you think she wrote that for him?
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, if she did, she did a great job.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Because he makes an excellent point, and I agree with him.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: He should be here, and I think maybe his wife
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: I could either do without hearing from Hillary Clinton or
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: if we're going to hear from the likes of Hillary
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Clinton about shit like this. We need to hear from Evy. Yeah,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: it needs to be dozens and dozens and dozens of
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: people testifying in this shit.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Because there are people that were tangentially aware or somewhat aware,
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: or had some level of knowledge, and we're not finding
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: out who these people are because we're busy asking Hillary
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Clinton if she's been to the island five times. Yeah.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: And at one point, Bill Clinton is talking about his
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: playing trips with Jeffrey Epstein and how a lot of
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: them were to help kids in Africa with AIDS, and
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: then he just briefly mentions and diarrhea and then just
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: goes back to regular talking. So I'm glad we got
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: that in there.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm sure the African people appreciate that. Yeah.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: They ask him when he first met Jeffrey Epstein. He
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: says it was two thousand and two, But there's that
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: picture from nineteen ninety three. But again, same criteria. How
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: many people show up at White House events? Do we know?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Was this White House event one where if you paid
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: a certain amount you got a photo opportunity with the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Clintons as if So it doesn't fucking matter that he
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: took a picture with Jeffrey Epstein in nineteen ninety three.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and how memorable is Jeffrey Epstein. He's like, you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: read his emails, he's kind of a fucking idiot.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a short king, he's got a weird voice.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you'd remember that, but not if
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: you have a president.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: There's a bunch of creepy, rich, annoying guys trying to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: fucking get your attention, you know.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there gonna be some bad apples in the bunch.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: So the fact that Clinton has one picture predating two
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: thousand and two with Jeffrey Epstein, I actually don't find
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: that alarming. Now, it's just all the other shit. The
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: amount of plane trips, I think is weird.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: He does make the claim that it was like a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: lot of stops on a smaller number of trips.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like different legs of the same trip, things
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: like that. He says the way he met Epstein was
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Larry Summers contacted him and was like, hey, I got
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: this rich friend who's got a plane. He says, you
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: can use it for your charity stuff. And Bill Clinton
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: was like, cool, Oh, let's do that. And then he
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: said he met Jeffrey Epstein. They talked, but that he
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: got the sense that Epstein was just checking boxes, like,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: all right, I've met this famous person. I've asked them
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: the questions I want to ask them, I've gotten the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: access I needed. I'm not all that interested anymore, which
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: would be a great excuse or explanation if it wasn't
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: for his relationship with Glene Maxwell, which carries on for
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: a long fucking time after Jeffrey Epstein is arrested, which
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: it's bad luck, yep Really you.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: Should at least know how to groom the brand better
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: than this, and.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: You can't tell me at no point, even if he
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was up to, do you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: not talk to your friend after that and be like,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: what your name is in this? What's going on? Just
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: the fact that he kept hanging out with her, in particular,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: how long were she and his friend going together? I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: don't think it was that long, or maybe it was,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: because that is what Hillary Clinton says was the impetus
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: behind her being invited to Chelsea's wedding. So maybe they
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: were dating for a long time.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Maybe old Todd was in on it.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows. But he's way more dodgy about Glene
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Maxwell than he is about Jeffrey Epstein.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got his Epstein answers down.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: They go through a bunch of names, asking kind of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: the same thing they did with Hillary Clinton. Did you
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: ever talk to any of these people about Jeffrey Epstein?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: He only says yes when they ask about Larry Summers,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: and even then he thinks they mean did you ever
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: talk to anyone about Jeffrey Epstein about anything? When they
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: actually mean did you ever talk to anyone about Jeffrey
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Epstein and sex crimes? And Clinton says he did not
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: talk to Larry Summers about that, but it was just
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: about setting up that plane trip. He also super duper
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: tap dances around the answer. When the artist formerly known
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: as Prince Andrew comes up, he says he's very noncommittal
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: about when he would have met that guy, because that's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: the kind of thing you'd forget.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, meeting the Prince.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when did you have that boys hang with the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: sex creep and a member of the royal family. You
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: recall that happening, No, no idea, of course you remember
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: that shit.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: That's a nightmare. Blunt rotation if I've ever heard one,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: for sure. Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, and Larry Summers.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: No thanks, no fucking thanks. Yeah, the seventeen visits to
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: the White House are weird. Epstein, between ninety three and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: ninety five, visited the White House seventeen times.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: It's almost like Epstein was like planning on making it
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: seem like he knew them love or something, you know
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of what I'm getting at. It's just
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: as good if even if you don't have any actual
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: proof of Bill Clinton having sex with underage girls, just
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: the fact that you can prove this pedophile was around
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: so much, that's going to do enough damage to Bill
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Clinton's reputation, especially in the minds of people who already
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: are inclined to hate that guy. Yeah, it's just to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: what end? What if that was all it was, If
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: they were just, oh, let's just be around Bill Clinton
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: to make it seem like he's involved in this.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: He was playing forty chess. He knew that someday Donald
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Trump would run for president and Hillary Clinton would run
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: against him. He need to degrade her credibility temporarily, even
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: though it was really him that he was under control
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: of his blackmail.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's just collecting blackmail material.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just on anybody that. I mean, he certainly seems
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: pretty indiscriminate, you know, left ring, white, right wing, as
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: long as he had influence.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I collect sports cards, and I bet blackmail material is
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: way more lucrative. Yeah, I should probably get into that.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Connor tell me one thing about you that if people
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: knew it, it would end your career. Later, I'll edit
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: it out. So too many things came to mind. Same Yeah,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Bill says he doesn't remember those visits or what they
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: were about. They bring up a New York Times article
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: that references a get Well note that Clinton wrote to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Epstein's mother in nineteen ninety five, and they're like, do
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: you write a lot of your friend's mothers get Well notes?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: He's like, I write a lot of notes as.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: President, which I also believe that you know that you
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: just do have a lot of bullshit ceremonial correspondence with people. Yeah.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even be surprised if some of the letters
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: are written by someone else and they're like, just sign this.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: I would assume they're all written by someone.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Else, you know, Sign this so someone can take it
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: to pawn Stars twenty five years from now.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and get offered five bucks for it.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: There is a section in Clinton's deposition where they ask
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: him to look for the last paragraph on page thirty
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: one of a document. And I can't imagine having watched
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: that normal speed. I watched both these depositions at two X,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: and even then it was excruciating. It takes him about
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: a week to find that fucking paragraph. Even the savvy
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: lawyer is no help. He's just lost. It's kind of funny.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: And then Whoma Aberdeen comes up a bunch.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: Good morning, mister president, how are you fun.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 11: I want for start off by asking you have you
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 11: ever been or traveled on or has whom My Aberdeen
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 11: ever traveled on Epstein's plane?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 9: If you know, I don't know. She might have taken
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 9: one of the trips with us, but I don't know.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: Okay, So have you flown on a plane with her?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: Several times?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Several times? Can you say, have you flown on a plane,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: any plane?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: The Lolita Express?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: What is that?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: When you say that, have you flown on the Lolita
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: Express with Jeff?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 7: I don't know what that is?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Have you flown on Jeffrey Epstein's plane with Whoma Abodeen.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Asked an answer to you answer again, I don't.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: I don't remember, but it's good. But I have followed.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: She's been sort of a part of our family for
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: a very long time.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 9: So when I went to the Middle East, which I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 9: don't think I over, took a plane with Jeffrey Epstein,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 9: but she would typically go what I did.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 8: So, have you traveled with both of them together?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: Excuse me, both of whom counts covers of course?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: Have you traveled with Jeffrey Epstein and whom A Abodeen together?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: I do not know.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: I don't What are we expecting Bill Clinton to know
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: about that? This man is on record for like an
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: hour and a half at this point, being like, I
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: didn't know anything about sex crimes? Do you think you're
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: just gonna break him in that moment and he's gonna
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: be like you got me?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, Well, well I did go in and adrena crome
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: bender with Whoma ath The lead to express that's true?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Is that a crime? Is that some kind of crime?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: There was no name given before these questions, but they
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: wreek of Lauren Bobert. She also brings up the passport
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: that was issued to Epstein in someone else's name. And
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I think questions about Epstein's ties to intelligence are another thing.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Bill Clinton is a little more dodgy on than Hillary,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: because Hillary's whole thing is, yeah, I don't know, you
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: should investigate that seems plausible, and Bill Clinton's just like,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: let's not rock the boat.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And well, I sort of I just googled this
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: to see when he was in power. But I mean
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: maybe he was using Epstein as like a back channel
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: to Ahud Barack in Israel or something, you know what
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, Well, he was in power. There's some overlap.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: He's towards the end of Clinton's time, but you know,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: like he's certainly talking a heads of state, as we've
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: see in his fucking emails.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's gotta have at least some kind of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: charisma for these people to want to hang out with guys.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: The thing, do you sort of have to inherently judge
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: anyone who wants to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein? Because
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: his catchphrase was what does this have to do about pussy?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Sure he would wait for a lull in the conversation,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: but what does that have to do with pussy. God,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: damn really intellectually stimulating guy.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: They bring up the Epstein birthday book letter. He says
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: someone on his staff asked him to write it, which
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: that's not an answer, that's not you. Still, you could
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: have said, no, that's someone on your staff. You could
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: be like, yeah, no your boss, Yeah, fuck you staff,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: I don't want to write that pedophile a letter. But
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: he sure did. And then he's like, I send hundreds
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: of letters a year to people I've met two or
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: three times. I'm a former president. Well years the birthday
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: letter don't remember.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering if it was before or after his first
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: conviction two thousand and three, so I think that's before
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: his first conviction.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his first conviction I want to say, was two
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: thousand and six.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: I thought it was eight, but that could be wrong.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was arrested No. Six and convicted No. Eight
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: something like that. But yeah, it's between two thousands, two
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: thousand and eight somewhere around there.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: First conviction occurred in two thousand and eight, following a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: two thousand and five investigations allegations of sexual abuse against minors.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: So yeah, at least it predates that old slick Willie is.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: Vindicated again, which you.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Could also argue, Oh, so Trump is vindicated also because
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: he's in the birthday book. Yeah, but Clinton didn't sign
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: his name to look like Pubes on a young girl
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: in his letter in the birthday book.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: And he didn't mention any like beautiful secrets or any
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: of the weird unhind shit that's in the Trump note.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: Like the Trump Note is basically reads like a coded
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: version of so you know, how we fucked children together?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: This really brings us together as the bond between men anyway,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: Happy Birthday.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: So some of the stuff they bring up on both sides,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Bill and Hillary both is just on the surface, so inconsequential,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Like they bring up that Epstein made a two thousand
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: dollars campaign donation in nineteen ninety three to Bill Clinton.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: It's like anyone could do that. Yeah, anyone could make
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: a campaign contribution.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: And that's not an amount that really buys you influence.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: And that's even my question about they later, well, in
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton's and in Bill Clinton's they bring up this
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars donation that happened right before Epstein was
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: indicted the first time. And I think it's twenty five
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars to the Clinton Foundation, and they're presenting this
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: as proof that Epstein paid the Clintons for some sort
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: of sweetheart deal in a sex trafficking allegation. Connor, if
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: you were Bill Clinton, would you do that kind of
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: favor for someone for twenty five thousand dollars?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: Right, Like you might as well be offering him a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: fucking I'll give you a brand new Hyundai dog. Yeah,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: if you're getting me out of this, Like, what the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: fuck does Bill Clinton care about twenty five thousand dollars?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: You're not getting the Nyonic five. That's an a launcher baby, yeah, beast, Yeah,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: it might be used.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: So stuff like that does nothing for me. Anyone can
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: make a campaign contribution. A twenty five thousand dollars donation.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think would buy a favor of this magnitude.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: I think that gets you like a photo and a handshake. Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: And even then, if we I did the pros episode
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: on the wrong podcast, we should have done it here.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: But Proz from the fujis he's in prison for basically
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: accepting money to set up a photo op with Obama.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he got eleven million dollars.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: For that, So, businessman, I'm supposed.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: To believe Bill Clinton took twenty five k?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Like, how bad would you have to be with money? Truly,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: you'd have to be a president and a gambling addict.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it is a risky maneuver to cover for
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: one of history's most prolific sex creeps. I just I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: don't think twenty five thousand dollars would buy it.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: And if you listen to what Alex Acosta says, it's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: because he was above his pay grade. He was a
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: ten intelligence anyway.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that comes up more in Hillary Clinton's testimony,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: but they apparently he has since claimed he didn't make
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: that statement.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he has, which I bet.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Just a sidebar. I had completely forgotten about this. But
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: they bring up some note published in the Daily Beast
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: where it's too Clinton from one of the fucking Roth's childs,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: of course, about how she regretted not talking to him
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: more at a party because she was preoccupied with Epstein
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: being there. And in that note we are reminded that
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: motherfucker lived in a converted elementary school.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the largest private residence in Manhattan, I think is
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: the claim to fame.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: That is such a grim detail.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Ugh, everything about him was on the nose, was too
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: on the nose, Like you and you walk in and
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: then there's four hundred glass eyeballs staring at you from
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: the wall, you know, yeah, like you're being surveilled either,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: like every and then there's a woman in a wedding
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: dress hanging from a noose. You know. It's just like
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: he was. He could not stop telling on himself. He
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: wanted for being a sex trafficker, you know. He couldn't
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: be content with doing it in the shadows for its
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: own rewards. He wanted like the fame and fortune too.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: And I wonder how much of that is sort of
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: a test for people when they show up, because we
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: know John Podesta, who I am not convinced was not
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: a pedophile.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, right at all.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: We know one thing he and Epstein had in common.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Besides the love of pizza, of course.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: They had a love also for really creepy graphic artwork that,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: in a lot of cases depicted kids being injured or
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: abused or harmed in some way. I wonder if that's
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: kind of a universal rich pedophile thing where they're like,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: all right, there's a new person coming over. How do
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: they react to that shit in my living room?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Right? Are they like disgustingly fascinated or are they
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: repulsed like a normal person, Yeah.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Imediately leave? Or do they start asking questions? Because that
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: would be a great first impression of a person. What
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: does see of this do to you? Yeah? So there's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: a flight that comes up from Miami to Westchester, New York,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: and it's Secret Service, Clinton, Epstein, Glen Maxwell, and a
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: few people who are only named by their initials and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: this is one of Yeah, this is one of those
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: flights that Clinton he can't really claim it was oh
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: AIDS in Africa or fighting hunger in China. I think
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: he does try and paint it as some sort of
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: charity initiative. But he's a little less committal on that flight.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: And that's just a thing you see a bunch with
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: his testimony, is he doesn't remember when it's convenient to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: not remember. I also wonder how much significance we should
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: put on the different it's between saying no and I
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: do not recall, because you'll see that a lot where,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: especially when they're listing the names and it's no, no, no,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I do not recall no, no, no, is that the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Clinton's covering their ass?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: I wonder he said Bill trying to be honest. He
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: says multiple times like I'm just trying to be honest
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: and give you the most information and blah blah blah.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and again he really does seem like he's having
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: a good time. Yes, during this whole deposition, it.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: Seems like he hasn't had a chance to go be
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: the Harlem globetrotter of bullshitting that he is deep down
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: in a while. Yeah, he's excited to just spin the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: ball on his finger.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: And the majority side, to their credit, kind of gets
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: Clinton to I feel like it was sort of a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves sort of situation.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Because every flight he goes on that they bring up,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: He's like, charity, charity, it was all charity. And then
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, but what about the flight to Mara
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: in two thousand and two that you took on Epstein's
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: plane for the wedding of the King of Morocco. That's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: not charity. What why would you use Epstein's plane for
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: that flight if, especially if the two of you were
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: not as buddy buddy as you claim, Does this say
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: where we're going.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it's on the thirteenth, and these flights are from
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 13: Morocco to Portugal and then Portugal to JFK. And our understanding,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 13: just from public reporting, is that this may have been
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 13: part of the trip to Morocco to attend the King
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 13: of Morocco's wedding.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: And you're asking him about the legs that he's on
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: this round exactly?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Sorry?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 13: Is that when you got married it may have been.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 13: I think that's my question for you is whether you
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 13: recall that this trip.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: I recall going to his wedding.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 13: Okay, do you recall approximately when that wedding would have been?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: No, but I was. It was a long time ago.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 9: I don't know if this was it, but I did
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: go to Morocco more.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: Than once.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 13: For the Do you recall attending the King of Morocco's wedding?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: Absolutely? I did.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 13: Do you recall whether mister Epstein and miss Maxwell also
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 13: attended that wedding?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 9: I remember. I think Chelsea went with me, and uh
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: I remember because my late mother in law loved Morocco
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 9: and Chelsea was there with her once and she wanted
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 9: to go, so it went and it was really nice.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: I was very close to the King's father and I
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 9: marched in his funeral when he died. And so they
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 9: had this wedding and we were invited, and I very
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: much wanted to go. Hillary was working and didn't, ghost
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 9: Chelsea did, and I think Homo was with us too.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 13: I think there's been some reporting that you may have
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 13: invited mister Epstein and miss Maxwell to the King's wedding.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 13: It sounds like, but please you tell me, do you
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 13: have any specific recollections that I.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: Don't I don't remember.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 13: Do you have any specific recollection of these two flights
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 13: which may or may not have been part of the
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 13: King's wedding. They're from Morocco to Portugal and Portugal to JFK.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 13: Mister Epstein and miss Maxwell were on the flights as
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 13: well as yourself.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: When I was.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Coming home, he's just asking you about these two legs,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: and he's asking you, do you have any recollection of
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: these two legs of the flight.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 9: No. I remember the wedding well, and all the stuff
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 9: that happened. If that's a lot I don't know.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 7: Coming or the going, thank you?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: Who even wants to go to that?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know the wedding of.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: The King of Morocco. Who cares?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I all accounts. Morocco's very beautiful.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Right eh, Okay, you know you're winning me over.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: Just a fun place. Let's go next time King of
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: Morocco gets married.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: Do you think we can get invited?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, we just have to be in close proximity to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: enough famous people that we can use it to bolster
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: our own names.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Well, I know this really cool guy who let us
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: use his plane. He's got a lot of great messuss.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: I am tense as shit.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: With really tiny hands and getting all the nooks and crannies.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: I could go for a sage right now. So they
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: bring up the Chris Tucker Kevin Spacey flight a lot
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: September two thousand and two. I don't think Kevin Spacey
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: or Chris Tucker were involved in Epstein's Shenanigan's, especially Kevin
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Spacey because he's he's the gay Yeah, and he came
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: out and was like, yeah, I'm a creep, but not
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: that kind of creep. Yeah, release everything about me, So
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: I believe him. I don't think he's a good dude.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: And now Chris Tucker the whole time has just been like,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: calm on, I was on one fucking charity flight.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to meet Bill Clinton. I mean, it
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't come on. Yeah.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. You get so many questions of Bill
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: and Hillary both where they're like, well, in light of
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: what we know about Glen Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, now
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: do you regret being on that flight? And they're both like, well, yeah,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: but we didn't know at the time. Listen, if you
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: came to me in two thousand and two, I'm still
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: working at a fucking insurance company, not even writing on
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: the internet yet, and you were like, hey, you want
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: to take a charity flight to Africa with Bill Clinton,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: Chris Tucker, and Kevin Spacey, I'd be like, hell, yeah,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: let's do it. It doesn't mean you're a pedophile. I'm
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: kind of only talking about Chris Tucker. I totally think
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Clinton is.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: But Spacey's probably like some problem b young based on
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: his crimes.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like a lot of
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: people would have taken that flight. I think the questions
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: are for the people who kept fucking with.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: This dude after associating with him over and over again,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: Or even have you seen the Nick Depoulo stuff in
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: the Epstein Files. No, comedian Nick Depoulo had dinner with
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: Epstein at one point. And we know this because there
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: is an email from Nick Depoulo in the Epstein Files
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: where he's like, Hey, had a great dinner. I'll have
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: to think about your proposal though, as you know, you're
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: a very controversial guy. So, motherfucker you knew about Epstein
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: and you were still like, but let's hear him out.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: He's rich man. This is j Worsen. When I found
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: out already Lang was in the Panama Papers.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: Is already laying in the Panama Papers.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: That would have been fucking amazing. I would have been
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: happy for him. Actually, you gotta have some.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: It's got to have some money. Panama Papers. I think
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: he's said. I think all that. I think the Panama
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: Papers money went up his nose.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, there's just a bunch of stuff about flights.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: I actually found Hillary Clinton's testimony a little more interesting. Yeah,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: I think Bill is just a better liar.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Slick Willie was just throwing up smoke bombs and laughing
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: and smiling.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: And so you end up getting a lot of the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: same questions over and over, and Bill Clinton has an
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: answer for every one of them. But again, if he
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: was engaging in a global sex trafficking ring, he's gonna
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: have an answer. It's how that shit works. They don't
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: do that shit in the open.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that fucking sharp ass lawyer coached him up.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gonna be a cover store, like, yeah, we
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: were on charity trips, but what were you doing when
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: you were on those charity trips? There's always gonna be
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: a cover story, so you don't ever have to say, well,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: what were you doing there? If yeah, right, you weren't
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: doing this.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: I think of Morocco only gets married so often.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, and especially to do it under the
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: guys of charity.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: I would love to see him pitching these trips to Hilary.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: He's like a baby, Come on, the king's the King
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: of Morocco. I gotta go.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or to do it under the guys of charity. Yeah,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: what do you mean we're flying around the globe abusing kids. No,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: we're flying around the globe helping.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: Kids, saving them.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That was Bill Gates' bag too, And it seems
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: like Bill Gates has some fucking skeletons in his closet
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: when it comes to Epstein.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: Literally trying to crush up antibiotics and put him in
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: his wife's activia.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shady fucking figures for sure. So yeah, Bill
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Clinton had a cover story for why he was on
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: Epstein's plane. It did nothing to convince me he's not
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: complicit in all of this because the friendship carries on
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: way longer than it should. And the fact that he
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: carried on his friendship with Glene Maxwell for so long
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: after Epstein was arrested, convicted, we all knew about it.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: That's a terrible fucking.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: Look, yep. And I think it really speaks to Bill
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: Clinton's charisma that even in spite of all of this,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: I wanted to believe him the entire time I was
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: watching that video. Maybe it's just because he was my
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: first president. I was born as a Bill Clinton baby.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: I remember him being five years old walking across the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: White House LAWNE was a big lego man suit with
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: Al Gore. He's fucking charming. He's likable. Yeah, it's electric like,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: he's just cute. He's gotten even more adorable as an
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: old man.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: He's also the first president I voted for in the
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: first Clinton election. I remember him getting on stage on
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: Ourcinio Hall and playing the fucking saxophone.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: Damn right.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: He's a charismatic guy. He charms the shit out of
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: this room. For one thing. If you watch the whole testimony,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: he does great. He really does not get flustered at
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: all the way Hillary Clinton.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: He just smiles. Yeah.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: And that's not to take anything away from Hillary Clinton,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: because I think her approach was better and less suspicious.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: Bill Clinton's just like, hey, I'm along for the ride, man. Yeah,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: you got some fucking questions to answer. Dude, your wife
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: not so much. But you absolutely you have your finger
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: on the pulse social media and what's going around. I'm
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: just assuming that saying it. Back in my day we
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: said six' nine and it meant. Something are there any
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: clips of them talking About Mark middleton going? Around? Oh,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: Man well this comes up In Bill clinton's. Deposition Mark
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: middleton was apparently identified as the guy who would have
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: Admitted epstein into The White house during those seventeen visits
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: When trump was in. Office he was found dead by
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: suicide in twenty twenty. Two he was found hanging from
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: a tree by an extension cord and shot in the chest.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Of of, course.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: And that is ruled a sue And Bill clinton's just,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: LIKE i don't, know, man sounds, Crazy.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 10: Okay and then and FINALLY i want to move on to.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: Another question regarding the business to The White. House are
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: you familiar With Mark? Middleton? Yeah can you describe Who
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: Mark middleton?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: Was he was a young man From arkansas who was really,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: ambitious wanted to go to work In.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 9: WASHINGTON i wanted to, have you, know and he Knew mike,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 9: McCarthy my chief of, staff who was from, o'rock And
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 9: Bruce lindsay who was also From. Lorock and he worked with.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 9: Us and then LATER i think he BECAME i don't,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 9: know but maybe he became a. Lobbyist letter but there
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 9: was a period of time when he was in a
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 9: position to white people in to The White house because
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 9: he was that was one of his.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 8: Jobs, Okay.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 10: So he he was has been identified by multiple news
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: sources to be the individual that most of the time
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 10: was entering or signing In Jeffrey epstein.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: Into The White.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: House, yes and what role did he have specifically at that?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 7: Time he was working.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 9: And you, know all logistical things in The White. House
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 9: but there must have been someone else who he held,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 9: THEM a lot of, men Maybe.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 7: MARK i don't know if he had the authority a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 7: lot of.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: People you can only testify to what you. Know he's
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: asking who Did Mark middleton work for in The White?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 7: HOUSE i don't know the answer to. THAT i can find.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 10: Out but so, so knowing that he met With Mark
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 10: middleton or was signed in With Mark, middleton do you
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 10: do you have any knowledge of the content of the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 10: meetings or the top of the meetings that Mister epstein
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 10: would be coming.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: For, NO i, Never mac never said anything to me
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: about meeting with.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Him and by, mac do you mean mac McCarty doing the.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Staff did he work for mac.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 9: McCarty, well it might have, been but at the, time
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 9: what is this at the beginning of my presidency or
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 9: at the?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 10: End this would have, well this would have been during
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 10: the time during the, nineties at the beginning when.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety five is what they
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: provided before that he was for the, visits.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 9: He was my first chief of, staff and then he
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 9: became a special envoy to a lot In.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: America so this is mac.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 9: McCarty make McCarty, so, okay it depends on, well we
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 9: could tell what he was, doing we knew when this.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 10: Happened, Okay are you aware that Mister middleton committed? Suicide,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 10: YES i. Am twenty twenty. Two he was found dead
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: At Hefner, ranch approximately thirty miles from his home In Little.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 10: Rock he was discovered hanging from a tree by an
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: extension cord around his, neck with a self inflicted gunshot
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 10: wounded the.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: Chest so he was shot and.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 9: Hung do you.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 10: Do you have any information that leads you to suspect
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 10: that he was that he, did not that he did
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 10: something other than commit.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: Suicide, no do you have any concerns that this was
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 8: in relation to his knowledge or relationship With Jeffrey? Epstein
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: given the date.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: With The president testified to the fact that he was
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: unaware that Mister epstein was visiting The White? House are
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: you asking him then as to what he would have.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 10: Known i'm asking when you heard about the, death knowing
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 10: about the things that have been you, know at this,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 10: point it's all over the news.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 8: Seeing that he has committed.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 10: Suicide have you ever had any conversations with people about
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 10: whether or not this that there's any relationship between the.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 7: Two. Oh, no no one's ever suggested it to.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 8: Me, okay thank.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: You The clintons must just be living a constant state
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: of devastation and regret about all their friends over the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: years that have committed. Suicide it's just so many of,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Them Vince, foster the. Rest, yeah it's so.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: Sad there's also a really weird moment, where AND i
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: don't know if there's clips of, this where they bring
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: up Something Virginia geffray said in her book About Bill.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: CLINTON i think being at sex parties where there were underage,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: girls and as they're kind of moving away from the,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: question he just. Goes did she say that in the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: book or in her, testimony BECAUSE i think she changed
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: her mind later and then he, goes BUT i had
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: no contact with.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 7: It did she say that in her?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: Book this is from her personal diary that her family
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 8: shared With, epstence.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 7: But the book came out more. Recently did she say
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 7: that on the?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: BOOK i.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 10: Can't i'm just reading you the entry from her diary
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 10: that her family shared with.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 9: ME i think she ultimately breached a different, conclusion ALTHOUGH
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 9: i had no contact with.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: What a weird way to say. It weird way to
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: SAY i had no contact with, It LIKE i wasn't
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: in the room when she changed her, mind But i'm
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: pretty sure we changed her. Mind something somebody somewhere got to.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: Her and just to be that on, it to be, like,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: oh did she say that in the book or in the, testimony.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: Because it's then you're also like tipping your hand, like,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: OH i know all about, This.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah BECAUSE i know something happened between those two,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: things AND i think she might.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: Have changed her mind so she started talking some.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: Sense, YEAH i found that really fucking. Weird The Mark
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: middleton thing is. Nuts but then from there it's just
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: a bunch of the same questions over and over and.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: Over there's a really maddening moment where whenever who is
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: asking these questions is conflating The Daily beast reporting something
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: with being a statement From Bill. Clinton so The Daily
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: beast reported one, thing and the person asking the question
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: keeps being, like, so was that a? Lie and he's, like,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: NO i didn't say The Daily beast said. That that's
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: not and they're just like stuck on this idea That
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: Bill clinton lied to The american. Public it's like it
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Was Daily beast, reporting and it really just gets toward
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: the end of both of, them they just kind of
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: turn into chaos and people just asking the same questions
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: over and over.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: And, over just throwing at the, wall trying to get
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: a trying to get a viral.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: Moment and they right near the end Of Bill clinton's
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: bring Up Virginia jeffrey's claim That Bill clinton walked Into
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: Vanity fair and demanded that they shut down a story
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: About Jeffrey. EPSTEIN i actually don't believe that.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: It's too, extra that tips your hand too. Much, yeah,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: so did.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: He just take a subway to advantage offices and strolled
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: in like.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: That's not he came in heavy with Five steward servius,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: guys you.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Know, Yeah and this is what twenty Tens New, york two,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: Thousands New. York no one had a, Phone no one
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: took a picture Of Bill clinton's storming into The Vanity fair.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: Offices no one wanted to post that on dig dot. Com,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: YEAH i was A dig. FLUENCER i would have blown
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: that shit. Up, so, YEAH i don't, know you really
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: aren't going to learn a ton from either of these.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: DEPOSITIONS i thought The Mark middleton thing was probably the
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: most interesting on The clinton, side that the guy who
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: would have Admitted epstein into The White house all those
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: times When clinton was. President found dead by the weirdest suicide.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: Possible, YEAH i, mean he just really wanted to make
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: sure he was going to. Die.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah it reminds me of remember our very first episode
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: About Oklahoma. City there was the guy who committed, suicide
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: and the way he did it was he pulled his
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: car over to the side of the, road sliced himself
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: up a bunch of times with a, knife and then
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: walked about a mile and a half out into the,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: woods had to climb a fence to get to where
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: he finally shot himself in the. Head but they didn't
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: realize he shot himself in the head until THE fbi
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: showed up and found a gun fifty yards. Away that's
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: a murder that my fucker was obviously. Murdered, yeah he
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: did not commit, suicide.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: Only really surpassed by the guy who shot himself twice
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: Head oh.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah Gary webb was which that WHEN i can almost
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: see as happening because he shot himself through the. CHEEK
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: i could See Gary webb having committed suicide but wanting
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: to do it in a way where people would be
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: LIKE cia did.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: This because to be, fair HOW i would commit suicide
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: would frame THE cia.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: Because by that, point THE, cia And i've said this
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: to other people and they hate WHEN i say, it
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: they had no fucking reason to Kill Gary webb by that,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: point he was effectively dead as a. Person by that,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: point he had no, life he had no, money he
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: had no. Job his, motorcycle which was his last fucking,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: possession had just gotten. Stolen that dude had every reason
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: to commit. Suicide not the vouch for THE, cia BUT
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: i think they did a good enough job reckon that
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: guy's life that they didn't need.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: To they just forced him to. Suicide they didn't kill.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: Him, yeah they just ruined his life into. It which
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: is that a. Crime it's kind of How trump and
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: his dad Killed trump's. Brother they just bullied him into committing.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: SUICIDE i didn't know that. Story we did an episode
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: of The Unpopular opinion podcast a long time ago called
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: The Three books That Explained, trump and one of them
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: is the Book Mary trump. Wrote she's his niece and
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: she's also a clinical PSYCHOLOGIST i, think or a psychiatristing like.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: That her dad is the one Who trump and his
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: Father Fred trump because her dad was an airline. Pilot
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: they looked down on, Him they felt that wasn't an
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: ambitious enough career, pursuit and just relentlessly bullied the shit
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: out of him to the point that he like drank
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: himself to.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: Death oh my. God, yeah that book is. Fascinating wait
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: until he finds out That baron wants to do. Ceramics, oh,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: Man baron's going to be a, problem isn't. He, yeah
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: he's really tall and good. Looking, yeah not.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Good, yeah that's going to be a, big big. Problem
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: so do we have any final thoughts on The clinton.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: Depots, well it was fun hearing and react to the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: blue dress. Painting that's. RIGHT i forgot about, that and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: WHICH i guess is called parsing.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: Bill that is a thing when it's The republican side
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: that brings that up and they're, like why would someone
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: paint a portrait of you like? THIS i know it's
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: because it's fucking.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: Funny, yeah, REALLY i mean it's hilarious wearing The Monoko linski.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: DRESS i mean that's a good.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Time come, Now CAN i buy that painting On? eBay
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: CAN i get a print of?
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: It i'm, sorry it's Not GEORGE. W bush doing a
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: bad rendition of a horribly disfigured.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: Man oh, YEAH i forget that guy's painting when he's
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: not trying to get most of the World's jewish population
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: to move To israel so they can die in a
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: nuclear war and Bring jesus. Back, so, YEAH i think
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: that's our. Episode we'll link to both of, these you
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: can watch, them but it's not that. Enlightening we've talked
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: about most of the interesting stuff that comes. UP i
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: would say my verdict IS i mostly Believe Hillary clinton
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: and don't Believe Bill clinton like at.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: All, YEAH i walked away with this similar, conclusion, although
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: LIKE i, SAID i do want to Believe bill just
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: Because i'm a sucker for.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Him, YEAH i want to believe that a former president
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: just dedicated his post presidency to doing charity shit to help.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Kids but the fact that all the charity stuff involves
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: kids makes it more. Concerning, yeah because then it's just
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: you on a plane with a known pedophile going somewhere
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: that you know you're gonna have access to a lot of,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: kids and you have.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: A really good excuse, too that makes you look really
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: righteous and. Virtuous. Yeah, oh we're here to give them
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: penicillin and.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: Hugs that's how the fucking Boy scout sex abuse scandal
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: happened because for years and years and years they were,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: like why would this kind man sacrifice his time to
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: take all the neighborhood kids to the woods for a
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: weekend if he wasn't a good, Dude because he's the worst,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: dude the absolute. Worst and that's All Bill clinton's excuses
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: here Is, no we weren't abusing. Kids we were just you,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: know flying to areas where there's a bunch of neglected
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: kids so we could go help. Them AND i brought
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: my sex creep how along with, me that's.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: All and a team of messusees BECAUSE i, mean this
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: is stressful.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 9: Work.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah SO i don't Buy Bill clinton shit at. ALL i, do,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: Though ACTUALLY i don't Think Hillary clinton knew about, it
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: because that's the other. Thing it's not like he's gonna tell,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: her you, know you.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: Know after after everything That hillary went through With, BILL
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: i think she probably was pretty much just excited to
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: have her own career and her own shit going on
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: and not have to deal with being in the shadow
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: Of so she's, like, yeah, whatever go on your little
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: trip and to FIX aids and what have. You i've
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: got the fucking The State department the. Run.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, also what's the age of consent In? Arkansas she's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: probably walked in on him fucking the seventeen year old
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: a time or.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: TWO i never want A google agent, anywhere So i'm gonna.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: Close, yeah that's not one you want on your search.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: History age of, consent Mart, Yeah so that's our. Episode,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: connor thank you so much for doing the. Pod as,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: always what do we have to plug before we get
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: out of? Here we got New patreon. Levels i'm gonna
• 1:41:04
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• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: march fifteenth to the end of this, week and maybe
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: they're a little cheaper right now through the end of the,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: week so go check that out patreon dot com slash on. Pops,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: connor what would.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 9: You like to?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: Plug i'd like to plug the damn bathroom because this
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: is the longest episode we've done in a.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: While damn right it, Is AND i think that's. It
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: let's get the fuck out of, Here connor say, goodbye.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: Hold me in, contempt goodbye.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: Everybody we love.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 9: You