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BREAKING: “The Bachelorette” Is CANCELED. And It Happened Live, In the Middle Of This Episode · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, March nineteenth. They have
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Speaker 1: to cancel Taylor Frankie Paul's season of the Bachelorette because
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Speaker 1: now there is video, and with that, welcome to this
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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ Robes. Everybody's been talking about this.
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Speaker 1: We knew there was a chance, but now there is
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Speaker 1: a leaked video that is out there Robes of a
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Speaker 1: domestic violence incident that we knew about from twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: in which he pled guilty. I will start with this
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Speaker 1: with you, babe, Bachelorette disposed. This new season supposed to
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Speaker 1: start on Sunday. We weren't together when this video came
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Speaker 1: out just a little while ago. You happened to be
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Speaker 1: out in an appointment, so we didn't watch it together.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, aside from Bachelorette, forget show, forget entertainment,
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Speaker 1: forget Disney, give me your human reaction to seeing this
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Speaker 1: video of a domestic violence incident that we'd heard about
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Speaker 1: with Taylor Frankie Paul. Just give me your human reaction
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Speaker 1: when you watched it.
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Speaker 2: I felt disgusted. I actually felt physically ill. I felt
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Speaker 2: nausea actually, and it was yes.
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Speaker 3: The video, but for me.
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Speaker 2: It was almost more the audio because you can hear Taylor,
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Speaker 2: Frankie Paul's five year old little girl at the time,
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Speaker 2: crying in the background. You can hear her after she
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Speaker 2: gets hit with a metal barstool that you see Taylor throwing,
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Speaker 2: and you hear her ex pleading for her to stop.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we need to And I think at this point
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Speaker 1: Roaes everybody has followed this story. They know who she is.
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Speaker 1: Frankie Taylor Paul, the firebrand, the lead, the star of
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Speaker 1: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives on Hulu. It's in its
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Speaker 1: fourth season now. ABC trying to revive the Bachelorette, plucked her,
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Speaker 1: select did her, and we knew what they were trying
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Speaker 1: to go after. She She's a firebrand. She's different from
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Speaker 1: any bachelorette they ever had. Some thought it was a
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Speaker 1: good decision, a good way to revive the brand. People
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Speaker 1: will follow her. It's going to be crazy, that was
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Speaker 1: the strategy. But Rodes they selected her knowing that she
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Speaker 1: had pled guilty in a domestic violence incident.
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Speaker 2: So what's changed, exactly right, And let's back it up
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Speaker 2: even before that, because when Hulu had her be a
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Speaker 2: part of and of course Disney owns Hulu to be
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Speaker 2: a part of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. They
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Speaker 2: knew that this whole show became what it was around
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Speaker 2: a swinging, a soft swinging situation. So you've got, you know,
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Speaker 2: folks who might not agree with that from a moral standpoint.
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Speaker 2: Just how she came into fame on mom Talk, on TikTok.
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Speaker 2: It was all blown up and she became a name
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Speaker 2: because of a swinging scandal.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about criminal activity now and violence and what
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Speaker 1: didn't they shut down production for a while on Secret
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Speaker 1: Lives of Mormon Wives because she was dealing with this
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Speaker 1: domestic violence incident, correct twenty twenty three, right, correct?
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Speaker 2: So yes, so this all happened then while that was
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Speaker 2: being filmed, and you are correct, Disney, Hulu, ABC. They
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Speaker 2: all knew that she pleaded guilty to what we are
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Speaker 2: seeing on this video. And look, we don't know for
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Speaker 2: sure if they knew there was a video, but I'm
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Speaker 2: guessing they did, and they were hoping or maybe they
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Speaker 2: were reassured that whoever had ownership of this video, her
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Speaker 2: ex is the one who shot it, or who at
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Speaker 2: least recorded it.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they felt reassured that this video would never see
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Speaker 3: the light of day. How could they not have known
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Speaker 3: about it?
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Speaker 2: If this was a part of an investigation, clearly the
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Speaker 2: police would have known about this way.
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Speaker 1: My argument is, what difference does it make you knew
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Speaker 1: there was an incident in domestic violence, she played guilty,
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Speaker 1: and you decided to go forward. What difference does the
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Speaker 1: video make? Are you going to come back now and say, well,
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Speaker 1: it was domestic violence, but we didn't think it was
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Speaker 1: that bad? What can you say?
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Speaker 2: That?
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Speaker 3: Is what they'll have to say, you knew this.
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Speaker 1: The only option they have, is it not Robes, is
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Speaker 1: to say she misrepresented what the incident was, and now
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Speaker 1: that we've seen this, we can't move forward. They are
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Speaker 1: either about to throw her under the biggest bus you
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Speaker 1: can find, or they are going to have to quadruple
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Speaker 1: down and move forward for the sake of ratings.
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Speaker 2: They knew that she pleaded guilty to aggravated.
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Speaker 3: Assault with you yes, So it's.
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Speaker 2: Really hard for me and I'm thinking you as well,
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Speaker 2: to believe that they didn't know the risk they were
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Speaker 2: taking and they went ahead anyway and took it.
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Speaker 1: So maybe that's it. They took the risk and they
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Speaker 1: just lost. Because this show cannot air, We're going to
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Speaker 1: let you hear this audio. And you might have seen
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Speaker 1: the video already, but to your point, Robes, it's the
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Speaker 1: audio that stings. It's so painful, it is so hurtful
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Speaker 1: to hear. And is that moment? And we've heard about
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Speaker 1: ropes describe the incident before we even saw the video.
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Speaker 1: This incident's been talked about for years, what it looked like,
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Speaker 1: how it went down, what was thrown, choke holes and Okay,
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Speaker 1: we knew about all this, did we not?
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Speaker 2: Yes? And Babe, we sat down with Taylor on our
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Speaker 2: podcast talking and she referred to this talking about this
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Speaker 2: incident because she had to deal with it, she had
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Speaker 2: to address it, and she apologized. She said she was drunk.
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Speaker 2: She said she got sober after that night. And you
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Speaker 2: can tell she's drunk.
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Speaker 3: She is slurring her words.
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Speaker 2: You can tell she is absolutely a neebreated and she
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Speaker 2: has admitted that she was.
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Speaker 3: In fact, that was in a way her defense.
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Speaker 2: I was wasted, I was so drunk, I was out
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Speaker 2: of control.
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Speaker 3: And that was the night I got sober. And I
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Speaker 3: think everybody was rallying around her in that moment. She
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Speaker 3: turned her life around. She wanted to do better. To
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Speaker 3: be better.
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Speaker 2: But now with this second investigation, there it is there.
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Speaker 2: It is about another alleged domestic violence incident where Dakota,
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Speaker 2: who is in this video and this audio you will
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Speaker 2: hear him, claims that she was violent again towards him.
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Speaker 2: She claims he was violent towards her. But you can
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Speaker 2: even hear her in this video saying you did it,
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Speaker 2: you did it. But what you see is her doing it,
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Speaker 2: not him.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we are going to go ahead and let
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Speaker 1: you hear this. Now it goes a little and again
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Speaker 1: we know this now or is coming out now because
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Speaker 1: of TMZ TMZ and I think you read it as well, Rose,
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Speaker 1: But it's a little unclear exactly how they got it.
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Speaker 3: They're not saying how they got it.
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Speaker 1: They were saying this was part of evidence in the
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Speaker 1: case against her at the time, but they're not exactly
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Speaker 1: saying how they got their hands on it. They were
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Speaker 1: a little vague there, point being it's out there now.
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Speaker 3: It was leaked.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's the verb everyone is using, leaked video.
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Speaker 2: Leaked old video. This is video of an incident we
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Speaker 2: already knew about. But my god, it's one thing to
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Speaker 2: hear about it hear it described, it's another thing to
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Speaker 2: actually see it and listen for yourself as it happens.
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Speaker 1: And if you have seen it already, it is still
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Speaker 1: I would argue, Robes a little different when you're just
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Speaker 1: hearing to the audio of it. So, folks, just gonna
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Speaker 1: let you hear about fifty to fifty five seconds of it.
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Speaker 1: It goes I think three minutes or so, but we
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Speaker 1: will let you take a listen. Now again, this is
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Speaker 1: the beginning of it. To set the scene, he is
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Speaker 1: recording in a larger living room that goes into the
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Speaker 1: kitchen area. There is a couch in the living room
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Speaker 1: area where he is, and she is a little distance
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Speaker 1: away at some points and starts throwing you'll hear them
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Speaker 1: metal chairs, and then closer to the end you do
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Speaker 1: hear the incident and Robes it was. It's tough. I
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Speaker 1: think it was the third stool she had thrown.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that multiple stools.
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Speaker 1: That's the one where you hear him say your child's here,
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Speaker 1: And as soon as the third one is thrown, you
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Speaker 1: hear the child start crying immediately and you can't help
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Speaker 1: but her so here it is now, folks, take a quick.
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Speaker 3: Listen, Yeah, look at you.
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Speaker 4: Look.
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Speaker 3: Look, yeah, look, this is called physical abuse.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, See Taylor, this is all you do.
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Speaker 4: It's the only thing you know how to do is
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Speaker 4: hurt me.
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Speaker 3: Huh.
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Speaker 1: And you think this is okay.
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Speaker 3: It's not okay. Let me go stop dude, leave me alone.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, your daughter is great here. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 4: oh my.
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Speaker 3: You you.
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Speaker 4: Stop stop freaming at it. Yeah, Taylor, you're done, Taylor,
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Speaker 4: that is no, You're gone. Be un.
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Speaker 1: Robes. Uh. Listening to it is almost worse than seeing it.
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Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking to uh in a lot of way. And
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Speaker 1: it's you hear that kid's cries and you can't help,
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Speaker 1: but it that stings. That's difficult, that's brutal. We're all
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Speaker 1: hearing this now and on Sunday. ABC is expecting us
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Speaker 1: to watch a television and watch her hand out roses
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Speaker 1: and smile and date and we're expected to root for her,
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Speaker 1: which is possible, Robes, I guess, but it is very difficult.
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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, baby, The show is in three days. Is
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Speaker 1: there any way this show airs on Sunday?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: As soon as I watched it, I thought not a chance.
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Speaker 2: Look and as of this recording, ABC, Disney, Hulu. No
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Speaker 2: one has officially said anything about this. And look, even
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Speaker 2: with this second domestic violence allegation and investigation that is
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Speaker 2: ongoing right now enough to put Mormon Wives taping filming
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Speaker 2: on hold, we still saw Taylor Frankie Paul make the
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Speaker 2: rounds the last two days. She did a live interview
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Speaker 2: on Good Morning America, She spoke to People Magazine, she
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Speaker 2: spoke to several of the other entertainment outlets. So just
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Speaker 2: talking about how heavy it was, how hard it was,
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Speaker 2: so they were still pushing through everything.
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Speaker 1: As we are sitting here with you, folks, it just
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Speaker 1: popped up on our screen that TMZ reporting that, yes,
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Speaker 1: in fact, her season has been canceled. As we are
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Speaker 1: sitting here, as we are talking, and now we're seeing
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Speaker 1: notes from our people out in La or iHeart, folks,
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Speaker 1: it's canceled. This is just happening, folks, in this moment.
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Speaker 1: The video came out, Sweetheart, an hour ago.
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Speaker 2: You cannot you can't and you hear it, you cannot
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Speaker 2: unsee it.
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Speaker 3: It involves a child.
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Speaker 2: And yes, the only thing I thought, could they hold
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Speaker 2: on to this notion that they knew about it already,
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Speaker 2: and that She's changed her life. Maybe they could have
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Speaker 2: had there not been a second investigation.
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Speaker 3: If there was not, that was my question.
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Speaker 2: If there had never been a second alleged incident, if
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Speaker 2: there wasn't now another police investigation, could they have said
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Speaker 2: she has changed her way, she has gone to therapy,
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Speaker 2: she has redeemed herself. She you know, all throughout the
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Speaker 2: second you can't say any of those things now with
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Speaker 2: another police investigation alleging the exact same type of behavior.
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Speaker 1: This is sad. This is so sad. And you know
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Speaker 1: who I'm the first you know what I'm thinking about. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we think about the child, we think robes. I'm sad
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Speaker 1: with Jesse Palmer. I'm sad for all the bookers who
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Speaker 1: work forever to find these guys. I'm sad for all
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Speaker 1: those people who work to make sure they did background
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Speaker 1: checks on all these guys. I'm sad for all those
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Speaker 1: people who put all this effort into making this show
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Speaker 1: a hit and this has happened to them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because all of those people had nothing to do
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Speaker 2: with the decision.
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Speaker 3: To choose Taylor Franky Paul as the bachelorette.
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Speaker 2: All of that work and you know how much work
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Speaker 2: forget even the money, but just how much of an
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Speaker 2: investment of your time? And I do believe Jesse Palmer
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Speaker 2: and the folks there at The Bachelorette believe in their show.
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Speaker 2: Yes it's a reality show, Yes it's entertainment, but they
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Speaker 2: have always been proud of the fact that they genuinely
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Speaker 2: and legitimately were trying to help people find love, find
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Speaker 2: lasting relationships, and yes, find a beautiful marriage.
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Speaker 3: And this flew in the face of all of that.
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Speaker 1: From the beginning that this was the one, This was
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Speaker 1: the year right, this was supposed to be the comeback.
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Speaker 1: They bet big, babe, they lost big. This is coming
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Speaker 1: to us again. We have not TIMZ Celebrity News is
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Speaker 1: just as trusted as anybody else out there. They've made
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Speaker 1: their mistakes, but this is not some wild tabloid we're
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Speaker 1: talking about here. TMZ reporting the headline the Bachelorette Taylor
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Speaker 1: Frankie Paul season canceled. They have a statement in here
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Speaker 1: robes from the Disney spokesperson that's sitting here, so they're
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Speaker 1: saying they actually have talked to somebody from Disney and
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Speaker 1: gave them a statement confirming that, in fact, this show
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Speaker 1: will not go forward on Sunday Robes. This is not
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Speaker 1: information we had when we hit record to record this podcast,
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Speaker 1: but we thought there was no way, and sure enough,
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Speaker 1: here it is.
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Speaker 3: Yes, this is happening in real time.
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Speaker 2: A Disney Entertainment spokesperson said, in light of the newly
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Speaker 2: released video just surface today, we have made the decision
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Speaker 2: to not move forward with the new season of The
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Speaker 2: Bauch Threat at this time, and our focus is on
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Speaker 2: supporting the family. This is worst case scenario and there
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Speaker 2: is going to be a lot of finger pointing and
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Speaker 2: fall out over this. This is a massive, massive development.
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Speaker 1: Finger pointing. You know, there is man's robes. Where do
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Speaker 1: you even start? Who chose her? Who missed this in
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Speaker 1: the background, who didn't know the video was out there?
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Speaker 1: How did the video get out? How did this other
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Speaker 1: incident take place? How do we know it know about that?
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Speaker 1: Who said we should put her on the red carpet
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Speaker 1: at the oscars? Who said we should have her do
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Speaker 1: the interview on Good Morning America and not ask her
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Speaker 1: a serious question? Robes, over and over and over. This
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Speaker 1: is what you talked about. She did that interview this morning.
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Speaker 1: You said, guys, this is how you do it. You
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Speaker 1: give her a tough question. You have a combative interview.
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Speaker 1: She's been out there and she's addressing and taking it
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Speaker 1: head on. So if something like this comes up, Robes,
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Speaker 1: this was your argument, you can look better as a network,
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Speaker 1: as a company by putting her on your network and
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Speaker 1: holding our feet to the fire.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: She needed to explain this, And now that we see
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Speaker 2: this video where she's talking about her pain and her hurt,
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Speaker 2: it really, really, really is. I hate to use the
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Speaker 2: word disgusting, but that is how it feels. It feels gross,
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Speaker 2: it feels itchy, it feels manipulative. And you saw this
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Speaker 2: roll out, this pr campaign, and then you see this
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Speaker 2: video and again coupled with new allegations.
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Speaker 3: Of the same type of behavior. How is that allowed?
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Speaker 3: How is this ever?
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking. I'm going back through our our text messages,
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Speaker 1: go to where is this? I said, Babe, it's bad.
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Speaker 1: TMZ has somehow gotten the video of the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: three domestic Isolents video with Taylor Frankie. It's not quite ditty,
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Speaker 1: but it's bad. They cannot stand by this girl. This
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Speaker 1: is sad.
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Speaker 2: Then I said, Oi, I had a feeling that was
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Speaker 2: coming because we had heard there was already talk that
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Speaker 2: there were videos, right, so you said, go to their website.
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Speaker 3: It's at the top. Sucks.
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Speaker 2: And then I wrote to you, no way Sunday can
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Speaker 2: go on as planned. You wrote, it's really ugly.
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Speaker 1: This is unsurvivable for AVC to put her on the air.
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Speaker 1: I robes, this is a devastating story. It's devastating for
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Speaker 1: that network. It's devastating for Disney, it's devastating for that show,
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Speaker 1: The Bachelor Nation. It is devastating. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: lessons we learn here, babe, but it was one of
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Speaker 1: the early There are conversations I was wanting to have
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Speaker 1: that I didn't understand, and that is why we consider
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Speaker 1: domestic violence. Why this story wasn't serious enough, why it
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Speaker 1: didn't feel like and even after watching the video, I
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Speaker 1: stopped and thought, maybe some people will see this and go, well,
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Speaker 1: she's just a little girl and tiny girl, and she
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Speaker 1: got upset and throwing some things. No big deal. This
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Speaker 1: isn't the same as a man putting his hands on
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Speaker 1: a woman.
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Speaker 2: When you see her like literally attempting to choke him,
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Speaker 2: and you hear his voice struggling, when you see her
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Speaker 2: hurling heavy metal objects at him, as hard as she can,
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Speaker 2: screaming uncontrollably, you did this as she's doing it, and
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Speaker 2: then Babe to see her response through her spokespeople after
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Speaker 2: the video was released to me, that was it was
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Speaker 2: even worse because there's zero acknowledgment of what we're all seeing.
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Speaker 1: So the plan we had, folks for this episode was
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Speaker 1: to actually let you know about the video, play the
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Speaker 1: audio of the video, and let you know what all
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Speaker 1: sides are saying. Right now. We do want to let
18:02
Speaker 1: you hear the statement from Taylor Frankie Paul's camp, but
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Speaker 1: this was the statement they put out after the video,
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Speaker 1: but before we heard about the cancelation. Stay here. We'll
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Speaker 1: let you know about this and let you hear this.
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Speaker 1: How'd you just describe rate? It was confusing, this tone
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Speaker 1: deaf statement from her camp. Stay here continuing now here
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Speaker 1: on Amy and TJ, The Bachelorette is canceled, according to TMZ,
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Speaker 1: citing a statement they have now gotten from Disney spokesperson
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Speaker 1: saying that the Taylor Frankie Paul season of Bachelorette season
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Speaker 1: twenty two that was supposed to start on Sunday with Rose,
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Speaker 1: when was she announced? How many months ago? Was it?
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Speaker 3: Oh? I find some time ago. I believe in the summer.
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Speaker 3: It was long time.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there has been a build up and
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Speaker 1: a build up and a build up of folks in
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Speaker 1: the you just heard it here. We are getting word
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Speaker 1: as we were recording about this Robes we were talking earlier.
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Speaker 1: When we started recording, we had only known that the
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Speaker 1: video was out and that her camp put out a
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Speaker 1: statement in response. Before we give any kind of interpretation
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Speaker 1: or our feelings about it, just let the people hear.
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Speaker 3: Oh.
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of feelings about it. I did
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Speaker 2: as soon as I heard it. But we'll let you
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Speaker 2: all have your feelings and then we can discuss. This
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Speaker 2: is what Taylor Frankie Paul spokes people said after the
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Speaker 2: video was released. It's sad to see the latest installment
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Speaker 2: of his never ending, desperate, attention seeking, destructive campaign to
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Speaker 2: harm Taylor without any regard for the consequences for their child.
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Speaker 2: Releasing an old video which conveniently omits context on their
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Speaker 2: son's birthday is a reprehensible attempt to.
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Speaker 3: Distract from his own behavior.
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Speaker 2: Thankfully, the public has seen this act before and knows
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Speaker 2: who he is is, and sadly many will recognize this
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Speaker 2: pattern of manipulation, both in his actions on the show
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Speaker 2: and from their own experiences.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, have your reaction first.
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Speaker 2: Gas lighting one oh one. I know what I saw
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Speaker 2: in that video. It doesn't require context. I don't care
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Speaker 2: what the context is. It is never acceptable to choke someone,
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Speaker 2: to throw heavy metal object at someone, and certainly to
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Speaker 2: do any of that when your five year old child
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Speaker 2: is right there. And then when the video shows you
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Speaker 2: out of control, drunk and actually harming your child. The reaction,
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Speaker 2: the statement should be, this is mortifying, this is horrific.
20:38
Speaker 2: I have done so much work to evolve from this
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Speaker 2: person who I see in that video. I don't even
20:42
Speaker 2: recognize that person. I'm sober. You take accountability. All they
20:46
Speaker 2: did was say.
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Speaker 3: Dakota is to.
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Speaker 1: Blame what Okay, I didn't put it in as full
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Speaker 1: of context as you just put it. There was no
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Speaker 1: accountability in the station, deer roam. She's not responsible at
21:01
Speaker 1: all for any of that behavior, according to the statement. Now, Rose,
21:05
Speaker 1: we don't know who put this video out and we
21:06
Speaker 1: don't know why, But what difference for ABC should it make?
21:15
Speaker 1: You Remember the Ray Rice situation NFL running back. It
21:19
Speaker 1: was with Baltimore at the time, there was a horrific
21:21
Speaker 1: video of him hitting his fiance at the time. You remember,
21:25
Speaker 1: it's in the elevator and then he's dragged knocked her
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Speaker 1: out and dragged her to Okay, you know what I'm talking.
21:31
Speaker 1: So the NFL had done the punishment to him behind
21:35
Speaker 1: the scenes and everything, he'd done his time, and then
21:38
Speaker 1: the video came out and they came back and tried
21:41
Speaker 1: to punish him more, and a court stepped in and said, nope,
21:45
Speaker 1: you knew about this. Nothing is changed. You just see video.
21:50
Speaker 1: You can't change it now, is there any way? There
21:54
Speaker 1: was a conversation about that, should we feel any differently
21:58
Speaker 1: about it just because we see it? If I hear
22:01
Speaker 1: domestic violence and a man versus takes on a woman
22:04
Speaker 1: with domestic violence, he is an instant monster. He is instantly,
22:10
Speaker 1: instantly a monster. Why is it? Then rogues, we've heard
22:14
Speaker 1: about this domestic violence. Okay, let's push forward, and now
22:18
Speaker 1: we see it and all of a sudden, okay, this
22:20
Speaker 1: is ugly.
22:21
Speaker 2: The truth is she's barely five feet tall and it's
22:24
Speaker 2: a he said, she said, kind of a thing. And yes,
22:26
Speaker 2: police wait and police did do the investigation. But you
22:29
Speaker 2: can maybe create some allowances in your mind or how
22:32
Speaker 2: bad was it really? Like how much did she actually
22:36
Speaker 2: overreact and did.
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Speaker 3: She just throw one chair or three? What was her demeanor?
22:40
Speaker 2: Like?
22:40
Speaker 3: You just what when you see and hear this video?
22:43
Speaker 2: It is undeniable, It is unmistakable, and it's actually, for
22:47
Speaker 2: me one hundred times worse than I imagined it was.
22:50
Speaker 1: You know, that was a good phrase you use. You
22:52
Speaker 1: said allowances in your own mind, and we were willing
22:56
Speaker 1: to do that, and we have to admit that that
22:58
Speaker 1: is something we don't subconsciously do. But now, Robes, this
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Speaker 1: is violent. This is not just ugly. This is not
23:07
Speaker 1: a scandal, This is not a tabloid headline. This is violence.
23:11
Speaker 2: I don't think she can go back to Mormon wives
23:14
Speaker 2: at all, period. And the women have come out on
23:17
Speaker 2: their different social media accounts saying they're the ones who
23:20
Speaker 2: asked for the pause, that they didn't want to film
23:22
Speaker 2: with her, that they were deeply concerned about the first incident,
23:27
Speaker 2: but now with the second one being investigated, they were like,
23:29
Speaker 2: we don't want to be a part of anything with her.
23:32
Speaker 2: So the idea of her actually ever coming back in
23:35
Speaker 2: any way seems slim to not at this point, And
23:38
Speaker 2: who knows what's going to happen with this other police investigation.
23:41
Speaker 2: There was taught that I think he got to a
23:44
Speaker 2: point this is what he claims that it's happened enough times.
23:47
Speaker 2: He started recording it because think about it. As a man,
23:51
Speaker 2: what's his defense.
23:52
Speaker 3: She's going to say you hit me first, or you
23:54
Speaker 3: hit me too, or whatever.
23:56
Speaker 2: So he started recording so he had a defense, so
23:59
Speaker 2: he could defend him.
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Speaker 3: And he wasn't charged.
24:03
Speaker 1: She woh god, damn, oh my god. This is awful.
24:08
Speaker 1: This is just awful. What are we gonna take out
24:11
Speaker 1: of it? What are we gonna learn from it? I
24:13
Speaker 1: don't know what the conversation should be. She in this video,
24:17
Speaker 1: Robes looks troubled. She needs help, She needs help, and
24:21
Speaker 1: she said she has admitted that she got it. Okay,
24:24
Speaker 1: if she got it, should we will put that behind
24:28
Speaker 1: and say, okay, we're gonna support you. You can do that, Robes.
24:32
Speaker 1: It's just such a big ask when the type of
24:36
Speaker 1: show she's trying to do, she's not just trying to
24:39
Speaker 1: do a Mormon lives follow my Life. She is trying to.
24:42
Speaker 2: Say I'm datable, I'm a I'm marriage material. Take me
24:46
Speaker 2: home to your Mom, that's what that show is. It
24:51
Speaker 2: is it's it's not the right show.
24:54
Speaker 1: So let's go with the last couple of things to
24:56
Speaker 1: wrap up here, Robes, the guys, that's not fair to them.
25:00
Speaker 1: Those guys. We actually know people personally who have gone
25:03
Speaker 1: through the process of dealing with bachelor and bachelorette and
25:06
Speaker 1: going through the process of being selected, and it is you.
25:10
Speaker 1: They put you through the ringer. All these guys went
25:14
Speaker 1: through that ringer. They took time off from friends, family, work,
25:18
Speaker 1: to sacrifice to be here for something and Robes, some
25:21
Speaker 1: of them might have been looking for some clout, but
25:24
Speaker 1: there you have to think that there's some guys who
25:27
Speaker 1: were genuinely interested in Frankie Taylor, in her and wanting
25:31
Speaker 1: to find love.
25:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have a friend who went through the process,
25:34
Speaker 2: got up towards the very end, and he would even
25:36
Speaker 2: tell us about how intrusive you go through like multiple interviews,
25:40
Speaker 2: they meet your friends in truth to your family, they
25:43
Speaker 2: actually find out who you are. What you could think
25:45
Speaker 2: about the liability you know on that show, you you're matchmaking,
25:50
Speaker 2: you're introducing people to each other. You have to make
25:52
Speaker 2: sure that people who you're introducing other people to are
25:57
Speaker 2: legit nonviolent, safe, you know, as best as you can.
26:02
Speaker 2: So with all of that said, it is a head
26:05
Speaker 2: scratcher that it got as far as it did, all
26:07
Speaker 2: for ratings, all for publicity, all for clicks, and this
26:12
Speaker 2: is what has happened, and it's just sad all around.
26:19
Speaker 1: The defense of Disney. This is gonna sound crazy, But
26:23
Speaker 1: if you were okay with them putting her on knowing
26:26
Speaker 1: about this incident, then why shouldn't you still be support
26:29
Speaker 1: above them after the incident. We knew about it. Now
26:33
Speaker 1: it's just we see it and like, ooh, now it's
26:36
Speaker 1: too much for us. No, you knew your bachelorette had
26:39
Speaker 1: a domestic violence guilty plea on her record, and we
26:44
Speaker 1: were okay with it.
26:45
Speaker 2: Then I think people were hoping that it wasn't as
26:47
Speaker 2: bad as maybe it seemed or as they heard.
26:50
Speaker 3: When you see that, when you hear it, there is
26:53
Speaker 3: no gray area.
26:55
Speaker 2: Well, so then what happens next now ropes, Well, I think,
26:59
Speaker 2: like I said, I think there's gonna be a lot
27:00
Speaker 2: of finger pointing. There's gonna be a lot of cya
27:03
Speaker 2: going on, and it's gonna be interesting to find out
27:05
Speaker 2: if anyone who was involved in that show and making
27:09
Speaker 2: the decision, knew about the video, saw the video, and
27:12
Speaker 2: if TMZ could get the video, then I'm gonna go
27:15
Speaker 2: ahead and tide Disney should have been able to get
27:19
Speaker 2: that bit.
27:19
Speaker 1: Uh. I don't know. TMZ has its ways. I don't know,
27:24
Speaker 1: but if we knew about it, I could have described
27:26
Speaker 1: as incident to any Disney official that asked. I said, yeah,
27:30
Speaker 1: so what she did was she put them in chokehold.
27:32
Speaker 1: And the record says that she threw these metal barstools
27:35
Speaker 1: and her child got hit by one. That's what the video,
27:39
Speaker 1: any video would show. They knew that, and they knew
27:43
Speaker 1: about it, and they said, you know what.
27:45
Speaker 3: That's cool, Let's make her America sweetheart.
27:47
Speaker 2: Shit.
27:49
Speaker 1: The only thing Roles that can save them possibly is
27:53
Speaker 1: to throw her again under the biggest greyhound they can
27:57
Speaker 1: find and say she lie to us and misrepresented what
28:03
Speaker 1: that incident was and we would have never gone through
28:07
Speaker 1: with this had we known about that, that it was
28:10
Speaker 1: that bad, but she assured us that it wasn't. What
28:14
Speaker 1: other option do they have than to throw her under
28:16
Speaker 1: a bus.
28:18
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't think that's gonna work.
28:21
Speaker 1: Really, You come on, who gets more heat Disney or her.
28:27
Speaker 3: I think Disney ultimately is going to need the heat
28:29
Speaker 3: for this.
28:30
Speaker 1: You think the audience is going to support her, her fans,
28:33
Speaker 1: her tailor army or whatever. You think they'll just.
28:35
Speaker 2: No, She's obviously going to be completely destroyed by this,
28:38
Speaker 2: But I think Disney is going to take a huge
28:41
Speaker 2: hit for this. Really, people question their choice from the beginning.
28:46
Speaker 2: It was controversial from the very beginning, and now it
28:51
Speaker 2: ends like this worst case scenario controversial.
28:55
Speaker 1: It looked fine to me on Sunday when I watched
28:57
Speaker 1: the Oscars. She was the big star there as far
29:01
Speaker 1: as talent for ABC reporting from the red carpet. What
29:05
Speaker 1: are you talking about?
29:07
Speaker 3: It was controversial in many many circles that they picture.
29:10
Speaker 1: I know what you all believe. I know what you're saying.
29:12
Speaker 1: But we had gotten to a point where it seemed
29:14
Speaker 1: to be celebrated. Even thought it was a good move,
29:16
Speaker 1: it was emotional.
29:18
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, Oh this.
29:20
Speaker 1: Is awful, folks, to tell you. I mean people, redemption
29:25
Speaker 1: can happen.
29:26
Speaker 3: Babe, I mean people can I believe that.
29:28
Speaker 1: Awful, awful decision. Look, there are people out there who've
29:33
Speaker 1: had DUIs and they had manslaughter charges. There people who
29:36
Speaker 1: served time for killing folks. There are people who have
29:38
Speaker 1: done all kinds of horrific things, and Babe, you can
29:40
Speaker 1: turn your life around.
29:41
Speaker 2: Agreed that that can happen, But you probably shouldn't go
29:47
Speaker 2: on a dating show where you're lauded as an American sweetheart,
29:52
Speaker 2: someone to bring home to Mama, when you have been
29:56
Speaker 2: or at least you've pleaded guilty to domestic violence charge
30:00
Speaker 2: and are now in the middle of another domestic violence investigation,
30:04
Speaker 2: criminal investigation with that same ex boyfriend who you had
30:09
Speaker 2: zero issue telling the world you slept with the night
30:12
Speaker 2: before you went on to go start filming The Bachelor.
30:16
Speaker 2: That just shows you how seriously she was actually taking
30:20
Speaker 2: this as an opportunity to find love. That to me
30:23
Speaker 2: is almost spitting in the face of the show.
30:27
Speaker 1: I guess and us who actually look at Tristan and
30:31
Speaker 1: Ryan and turn that show on, so we are Tristan
30:34
Speaker 1: and Ryan are why I still give the show any
30:37
Speaker 1: ounce of legitimacy. I was like, oh, wow, this can work,
30:41
Speaker 1: it can and it has. We've known hell Rachel Lindsay
30:45
Speaker 1: got married, she ended up getting divorced. These are friends
30:47
Speaker 1: of ours. Matt James had a long relationship ends up
30:50
Speaker 1: not being together.
30:51
Speaker 2: But it was a legitimate relationship where they were thinking
30:54
Speaker 2: about marriage.
30:55
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we've been a part, We've seen it work. This
30:58
Speaker 1: says to us to the audience that it's something else.
31:02
Speaker 1: Now it's a spectacle, a spectacle, and this is what
31:07
Speaker 1: this was. Folks. We appreciate you listening. We just wanted
31:11
Speaker 1: to hop on. This wasn't the episode we expected now
31:14
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, this ropes. This is the first time
31:16
Speaker 1: the news has broken while we are in the middle
31:18
Speaker 1: of red.
31:18
Speaker 3: This is a first and takes us back. Yeah right,
31:21
Speaker 3: it was almost like breaking news takes us back.
31:24
Speaker 1: Well, folks, we appreciate you. Anything else hopped out on
31:26
Speaker 1: this one. I do want to ropes. We mentioned did
31:28
Speaker 1: you see this up on yours as well? TMZ. Also
31:31
Speaker 1: this note here that they're saying Dakota has actually filed
31:36
Speaker 1: for some kind of restraining order and wants sole custody
31:39
Speaker 1: of their child. Here it is ropes.
31:41
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
31:42
Speaker 1: So this is getting messier and messier and messier.
31:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just the beginning. Unfortunately, this is what
31:49
Speaker 2: tends to happen. And yes, now Dakota, it appears, is
31:52
Speaker 2: looking for soul custody and after that video.
31:55
Speaker 3: He probably has a pretty decent case.
31:58
Speaker 1: So our look, our thanks on our credit right now
32:01
Speaker 1: to TMZ that has gotten hands on the video and
32:04
Speaker 1: has pushed this story forward. Is the last thing to you? Babe?
32:09
Speaker 1: Was this important? Did we need to see this video
32:14
Speaker 1: before the show?
32:15
Speaker 2: Now?
32:15
Speaker 1: If it would have come out in the middle of
32:16
Speaker 1: the show, that would have been horrible. But did we
32:18
Speaker 1: need to see this? Did we need did this video
32:22
Speaker 1: need to come out? If this would have just gone away,
32:25
Speaker 1: was buried and never existed with things have just gone
32:28
Speaker 1: on as planned?
32:30
Speaker 2: Probably And I was thinking about this moment when Harvey
32:34
Speaker 2: Levin knew he had this video, he had to.
32:37
Speaker 3: Know when he put it up.
32:39
Speaker 2: He had to know that he was changing a lot
32:43
Speaker 2: of lives and that this show was almost certainly going
32:46
Speaker 2: to get canceled. He knows this business. He knew what
32:49
Speaker 2: he was going to happen when he made this public.
32:51
Speaker 1: He probably called Disney before he posted and say, hey,
32:55
Speaker 1: heads up up, I got this. Do you have a
32:58
Speaker 1: coming yet? Folks? T J. Holmes here on behalf of
33:02
Speaker 1: my dear Amy Robach. We will be talking to you soon.
33:05
Speaker 1: Anything hops out on this story, we certainly will will
33:08
Speaker 1: update you but we appreciate you as always so spending
33:10
Speaker 1: some time here with us