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Twitter Sheikhs & Fake Hadiths (Ft. Abdullah) · After Maghrib 🌙

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Melodic mother of salam-o-alaikum to all our dear
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viewers and listeners wherever you are watching from around the
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world, welcome back to another episode of the aftermath of the
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podcast. And I really hope everyone has
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been benefiting and learning something new over the last few
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weeks during the sorrowful month of Muharram from our weekly
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shows and Sharla. Before we dive straight into
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this podcast co-host. I've made some I'm sallam said,
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Ali Haider. I'm the law Hauser mean, it's
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been good. We've had a couple of weeks.
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I think to have a week or two since actual are too kind of
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process to to continue and keep up the momentum Channel, which
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is our goal and handle us, okay? There's a lot of activity at the
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moment. There's a lot of modulus in the
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community. Everyone's hosting at their, how
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the holmes-san Ask for the use of handling things are going
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well. But today said I lie.
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We've got an interesting discussion we do because, you
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know, it's yes, is related to Heart hmm.
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It's less sorrowful. And I think it's more insightful
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for each other. And before I do mention the
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podcast, I like to welcome our special guest for today's
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podcast. Salam, o aleikum wa barik
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pleasure to be here. How we found.
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The UK's of all UK is very nice reminds me of Home, Sweden, just
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that. The roads are different and the
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car's driver. The first time in the UK,
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actually, it's my second time. The first time I was here, I was
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doing a different show and I was there for a few days and I went
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back in, this is my second time. I'm sure everyone's wondering
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talking about, hmm, and let's dive in.
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So the conversation we really want to have here today are made
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but more importantly with brother Abdullah who is our
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special guests are. Is what is the importance or
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what shall I say, value social media has had or other media
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platforms importance for the message of karbala Imam Hussain.
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So interesting question, because if it were not for YouTube for
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we're not for Instagram, if we're not for Twitter, a lot of
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people would miss out on very important lectures or Snippets
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of lectures where people utilize those.
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Those videos and learn a few historical aspects of karbala of
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the characters who are in karbala and of the people who
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sacrifice themselves for The Message of Islam.
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Generally speaking, it's interesting because there's
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definitely a couple of angles to kind of dissect.
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This with first is obviously looking at Muharram online from
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the perspective of the Shiite Community.
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Yeah and the service that we especially like for example Us
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as content creators the sort of goal that we have to create
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online content for the community within.
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And then, of course, there's the external content that we put out
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there to give and to kind of promote the message of a popular
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saying to The Wider Community, to wider Society more generally.
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So, maybe there's different ways we can approach this but it's
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definitely an interesting thing. Maybe we could argue that in the
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last 20 years, we've seen a exponential growth in terms of
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not just the quantity of Content, the quality of content
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that's coming out on, on, on media platforms and then of
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course, responses on social media platforms.
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So it's an interesting way to look at it.
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But yeah, I don't know, really where to begin again.
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Such a big discussion. I know where to begin.
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I've done that. Yes.
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How has online platforms play the role in your life.
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So social media essentially has taught me.
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I'd say about 90% of what, I know when it comes to the shale.
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When it comes to Islam, in general, start off with small,
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Instagram posts here and there that was before my show.
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And, you know, I was introduced to, to share through these group
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chats and space is, and these lives will waive, or not
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whatever you want to call it, right?
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So, in a way, you can argue even that.
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If you were not for YouTube, the lectures I watch on YouTube of,
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you know, certain Scholars. As or whatnot, then I wouldn't
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have had, you know, been introduced to a lot of
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historical aspects and even. So I was introduced to like
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certain amount of websites that give us information and I give
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us like books and sources which is a lot.
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It's very beneficial, but it comes essentially from, from
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social media. But how about you guys how has
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social media been like a social mentioned you?
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Chirp. Yes, straight away.
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I just remembered, you know, it being like I think almost 10
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years since I've really been, you know, taking some solve,
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should I say lectures at home, listening to lectures at home on
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YouTube and it's amazing to see like direct access.
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Whenever you want to hear a lecture, be a part of Ramadan or
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or you want to hear a lecture, I could be about anything it can
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be, for example about Halal making me.
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Yeah. Pop music wherever it is.
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You can find on YouTube and I find something so beautiful to
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have quick access. You don't start Like you might
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have a question, something's telling me ask you a question
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and you want to relate to them, but show them, for example, you
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know, this scholar mention this ruling of the scholars Mission,
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this thing, this amazing to have that could, you know, I said, we
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further, we forget a lot of the times we become complacent
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because For the First Time in the history of she Aslam, we
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actually have direct instant access to information.
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Literally in our pockets, you can find the answer to anything
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whether it's Halal Haram mustahab.
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Microwave it, whatever. Sort of question you have, you
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have access to good and you have access to bad, but that access
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to instant information can be dangerous.
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Can't you see what? I mean, of course, there's so
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many pros and cons, there's that we have to weigh up and balance
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the arguments. But generally speaking, when we
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talk about social media and of course in the, in the podcast,
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in the past, we've talked about the dangers and the threats of
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social media. And in Charlotte today, we'll
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talk about maybe some of the opportunities that were social
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media social media presents, but I found that interesting.
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I've done the how you said that 90% of your knowledge came I'm
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from social media because you to particular and I think all of
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us. Hey, so far I think for all of
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us as we're with from a generation where certain
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prominent scholars in English language have taught us the
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majority of what we know yes from especially on a foundation
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level going through the ages of Baloo especially for me you're
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becoming a young man and you need to learn about issues in
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the world. You need to know about the
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biography of imams or you need to know about you know, Some of
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the challenges that are faced towards this year school and
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some of these answers are found on social media where perhaps
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they were or weren't taught in our madrasas if we even went to
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them. She said, what I mean?
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So that is an incredible opportunity out there.
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I think maybe for parents who are nursing home, we it's maybe
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a challenge to parents at home, to investigate a research, how
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much content is out there, because there is a lot there.
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But it's maybe it's an interesting one because there is
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a threat and there is obviously misguiding information mostly
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because yeah. Yeah.
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You can receive the most incorrect, false information
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about everything and anything, and I think happens today and
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lots of people get misinformed. The, so let me ask you if you
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don't mind because your initial question was about about the
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loan Hussein, and I've kind of, kind of taken us on a tangent.
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But when you talk about Muharram, you talk about the
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spreading of the message of the mm.
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Um, what what comes to your mind, really Instagram,
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Instagram. First thing that comes to my
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head is Instagram because I'm the law, you know, especially
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Now, we are the month of Muharram and suffer, everything
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that's on. My feet is like horror related.
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Yeah, every day. We were listening to a short
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clip by a scholar. I'm listening to, you know,
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unless and I can learn that happened that karbala so was
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like non-stop non-stop of learning new things when it
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comes to more of the month of Muharram.
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But I want to talk about the dangers of it.
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Yeah, sometimes we can hear something believe.
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It's right and it's not, yeah, I don't know.
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That's had an impact or you've experienced anything.
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You think yourself or well, there's a lot of pages out there
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that will give you a, quote by said Imam or the prophets Allah,
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and it doesn't exist and it never exist.
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There's no sauce. Just just just slap.
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What's your favorite? What's your favorite?
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Fake IDs. There's a lot of she put out
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there as people at home, you know, which one is.
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I've had the the flower in the Palm fragrance somebody who
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understands you. Like, I feel like the flower,
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that whole like be like water, my friend, they call Bruce Lee
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and they say it's mama. Is anything, but I think the
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point being is that the we have thousands of example.
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Yeah, I looked exactly like you have a lot of Hadith, from
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coffee cup of coffee, or from behind, and War.
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But rather than going referring back to those, you have, they
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caught Bruce Lee and they ascribe it to.
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The plan is only because when you, when you let me give an
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example, you love something. Yes.
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And you want to present it in the most fashionable and
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appealing way to One as possible.
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I'll give an example. I'm a Liverpool fan as many
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people know. On the podcast is always
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mentioned me too. I love.
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Are you there myself? As I was saying.
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So if let's say we love our football club.
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Yes, we want to to promote our football club and we want to
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tell people how much we loved it and what's the best team in the
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world. And definitely what we'll do is
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we'll find the most appealing things.
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Something like an emotional video sentimental, this that
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I'll put out the the same way when we talk about that about
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the line her saying, which, of course, means it abundantly more
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to us than anything material. Like sports or whatever.
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But something like that. People will find a way to try
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and sell it, or advertise it in such a way where you use fake
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Hadith and you may not know it. It's, you know, it's innocent a
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lot of the time you're innocently ignorant as someone
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once said to me and you put out there in a way that is
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fashionable, maybe, but it's dangerous because obviously
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there's a risk of deviating us and obviously the followers
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nowadays, it's interesting. Sorry, I'm rambling.
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But it's interesting, the use of the word follow up because when
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you follow Someone you're consuming voluntarily the
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information that they put out there and you are four years at
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times some points. You are following the tweets,
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the ideologies and so on that people are putting out there and
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all the other chemical podcast follow the aftermarket podcast,
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it's of the grindley 1000 subscribers by the end of 2020,
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to ensure John. For example, we might see the
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most innocent. Like I said earlier, an innocent
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tweet, which someone may put out there not knowing that it's,
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maybe deviating or maybe not very accurate for Someone might
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tweet something about the concept of to worsen or Cena.
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And they may word in such a way which is outside the tenets of
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she Islam. You see what I mean?
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Where it becomes, you know, you saw them in exaggerated and
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whatnot and I think a lot of us agree at home that the ultimate
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goal is to find a lot of on Thailand to talk to Allah, spawn
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table, and use torso. As a means to elevate and to
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Adorn your prayer, your worship to love.
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That makes n come closer to Allah to come close to Allah.
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But of Of course, there's the Trap and we see a lot on social
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media people fall into the Trap of exaggerating to was stolen
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and and come across. Hello, right?
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Yes, becomes exaggerated, that's an example.
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One example of you have someone who's feeling very passionate
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they come home, it's the 9th night of Muharram and they you
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know, they've had the best lecturer of their life.
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They start tweeting, you know your mom give me everything I
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want in this world. Yeah and Mom this that I pray to
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you x y and z. Now then The terminology is a
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very tricky one for us now, obviously that's a very specific
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example, example as well. But I mean to say, is if we're
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talking about the message of Abdullah, Hussein and social
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media, we can either fall into the Trap of becoming propagators
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of the truth or propagators of falsehood.
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And that's for us as an individual based on an
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individual basis, to take the responsibility to do the
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research and obviously be responsible online.
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But when we talk about the opportunities that social media
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presents, There's a lot to learn and there's a lot to gain a lot
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of Knowledge from actually because you can find beauty in
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its, but you can also find danger and we're not for your
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like, let's say everyone's individual intellect.
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Like every every person and his intellect, if you are not
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intelligent, not, you would fall into the danger of following the
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wrong post and falling into extreme, perhaps.
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And if you like any other person who uses the intellect sees
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that, Is a danger you would divert away from it and you
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would benefit from the beautiful post.
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I exist like this beautiful threads out there on that's a
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Twitter there's speak about methyl on.
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For example the mercy of Allah subhanaw taala and it's a
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beautiful thread that goes around the speaks about Hadith
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this. The Surah.
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This is Ayah, Allah says that this, you know, he's the most
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merciful and he forgives all sins and this Imam says this and
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it's beautiful. Yeah.
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And you have an extra tie speaks about Outside are and how to
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perfect your Salah and the next post about Zach, how fasting
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everything right? But all of these things are
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beneficial and beautiful. And then you can have.
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For example, I have experienced in group chats, you have
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conversations, people have Concords, they have debates all
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conversations, right? And during those conversations,
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you see that this guy follows this collar.
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So he has this opinion and this person was very knowledgeable,
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you follows this scholar and this is part of the scholars
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opinion. So it's a very fruitful, see See
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such conversations take. I think just to add to that,
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though. It's, there's also as for every,
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you know, there's so many benefits from the opportunities
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and anyone could be a content creator on social media.
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I think we need to remember that because you can share positive
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experience or you can share something that you've learned
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with your friends and with your followers.
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And that's a beautiful thing about social media, you learn
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and you share. So we have to be conscious that
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when we tweet or when we post on Instagram, anyone in the world
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can access it and that could be a danger or it can be an
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opportunity. When we talk about opportunities
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we have Remember that the, the story of say, the shahada they
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Salam itself, is viral in its nature.
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You know, his story is infectious with the love, we
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always talk about this. Yeah, you know, the world in
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engagement by even yes she has, of course, connecting one bus
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and I apologize. I rejected.
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No, no. But I had a thought that came to
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my head. It was like, I think me for
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sure. I'm sure I can speak on your
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behalf. We were lucky.
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To be raised without the need of online media.
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Wherever. Yeah, I'm done.
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Gain any shall we say, you know, slab acknowledge or learn about
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the the attributes of the elevator - Salam all gone as far
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as what happened at karbala the day of Ashura.
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Yeah. But for many they don't have
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that person have that yeah, for many online, the online
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platforms is the only thing they can access to better.
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Don't look knowledge and understanding of Islam.
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I see your point because, you know, a lot of not this
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knowledge, you can find it in, let's say three places.
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If you, if you weren't on social media, you would find.
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Let's say if you want back hundred years, you'd find a,
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this knowledge and lectures. So you go to a modulus and
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there's the share sittin on the me, all the seeds and it gives
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you the mocktail nights why night during Muharram.
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And then you kind of get an image of what the market really
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was like in Korea during three years, right?
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Then you have The books itself. There's a, there's books of the
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mocktail of what happened to Mom.
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Has a nice and the third option is, of course, going to school,
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like Madras and they teach you. This is what happened.
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Some people don't have that privilege.
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For instance, myself I did especially if they're not really
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raising a shower household, exactly.
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So especially if someone who isn't from Russia household or
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Shia, not necessarily shall also, but she has Community
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less. It is there's a lot of people
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that live in different countries that are Are not necessarily
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sure no I guess just nothing. He's and now you're shh living
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in a population. That is much majority against
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your beliefs so now if you want to attend the modulus you're
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risking your life just like the people who want to zr0 during
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the times of said, say let's say Saddam people were risking their
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lives. Does this, but was very
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dangerous, some people getting killed, some people getting
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kidnapped and in a sense. Now, some people are afraid to
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go to modulus in these. So that's why it's so important,
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sorry to interrupt. That's why it's so important for
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there to be beneficial and substantial content out there
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100%. So YouTube, you have YouTube,
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there's my jealous. Yes.
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Yeah, I've said, sheriff and said, Sharon said, said all
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these great sad and great sure that are out there, the present,
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the message of a little bit. I am Sonam in such an eloquent
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Of a way for the people that can't attend my Jones and to add
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to that as well. For those who don't know about
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the story of Imam Hussain, there's so many opportunities
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and things which can be shared on social media.
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For example, there's so many organizations to name one who's
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her saying an incredible Global platform which presents the
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message of the Bible are saying to The Wider world of the
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general public in a face-to-face capacity, by handing things out
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by having events. Interfaith, and so on and so
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forth, things like that can be shared on social media and can
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reach people and touch their hearts.
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And that is something we can adapt.
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In terms of our goals that when we talk about Muharram online,
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we go from Talking engaging in issues, which are a waste of
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time and useless to be really honest waste of time issues and
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find ways to connect with the wider world and our with other
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people and learn from each other.
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So, that's the ultimate goal Sherlock before you head out.
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Because I know you're flying away soon and shall let me ask
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you one question, final question.
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This is don't ask him something that he won't come back.
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Yeah, well, I was actually gonna say to you.
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This is your second trip to London.
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What are we seeing you again in Sharla inshaallah?
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Very soon in Charlotte and Charlotte, are we going to see
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you online on social media before the house definitely be
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online is shall love sharing my input towards the share
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Community hundred and have you got any message for the viewers
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or anything? Because we always do the
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Subscribe like share? Yeah.
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So before we get into the like share, subscribe, I would Judge
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everyone out there in the world to, at the very least, because
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we have this thing called an Imam of our time.
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That many of us, we mention it as lip service, but not many of
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us actually know who the Imam of our time is.
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We don't research the books that are methadone catabolize a by an
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Omani. We have a lot of very beautiful
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books that let us understand who our Imam of our time is and to
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get closer to him because we have our own, we have any man,
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we can speak to him. He can hear us.
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We forget, he's living it. We should Easy Living.
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We forget, we have a hunch. It'll honor.
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The proof of existence of God on Earth.
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And once we research, we, as we understand that, we have a duty
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to uphold, which is to develop ourselves to the point where we
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can be ready for the reappearance of the Imam.
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And once we develop ourselves that song, we hastened
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reappearance. Because a lot of us, we do that,
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you know, male our history, a of socialism, But do we really work
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on ourselves to actually make him come back to actually make
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him reappear and all we all we were the representatives of the
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Imam. All social media, because social
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media identity is still real life and we are still
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representing him or we aim to represent him and maybe
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sometimes we forget that we slip on social media.
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We swear we reply with foul language to people, things like
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that is not representative or not becoming of the followers of
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Imam Ali hodja. So that's I think I'm shallow we
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can maybe reflect on and then shall we can change.
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Inshallah is interesting that you mentioned the, the post and
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slipping out and stuff. Because a lot of people forget
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that comments messages and posts.
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When you insult, someone fell the Malaika still there, it's
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still rely. God is still going to hold you
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accountable for your comments and your posts when you're
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insulting people and stuff like that.
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Something along those lines, right?
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So inshallah our viewers out there.
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If you leave with a message at least, Be one of those two
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researcher Imam and remember that God is always watching at
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the very least. I love that.
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Yes, Mac amazing wish to end the conversation.
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Yeah. You know, that the renderer and
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so our living your mom. Let me point out 100% and the
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last one on the other and now we need the like And subscribe, and
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those like And subscribe. Follow after Mother.
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Mashaallah and remember these two beautiful men right here.
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Great guys. Great souls and to kind eautiful
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message as Well happy we are toddler.
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Thank you very much for coming on Donna and thank you for
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spending time with us here in your busy schedule.
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The conversation, love this conversation, forward to seeing
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you once you're back in London, in Charlotte.
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I hope to see you guys again. But this is we will be back next
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week, of course, continuing our Muharram season of content and
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inshallah. We look forward to seeing you
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