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Bonus Episode - Sign o' the Times: the Diddy Trial Begins · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after
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Speaker 2: the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland
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Speaker 1: bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the
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Speaker 1: after party. This is the show after the show, the
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Speaker 1: party after the party, the bridge to get you from
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Speaker 1: one full episode of Disgraceland.
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Speaker 2: To the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.
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Speaker 1: On this bonus episode, we are talking about Prince Part two.
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Speaker 1: We're also previewing our coming Boscote episode talking slap Herd
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Speaker 1: around the World in the Hollywood Land Minute, along with
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Speaker 1: a music and true crime Trial of the Century update,
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Speaker 1: and we get into your voicemails, text DMS emails and.
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Speaker 2: Has always a whole lot of rosie.
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Speaker 1: All right, Discos, let's get into it. So A big
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Speaker 1: part of the Prince Part two episode that we released
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Speaker 1: this week deals with the time the Prince was creating
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Speaker 1: making music in the nineteen eighties, specifically the mid eighties,
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Speaker 1: specifically the time around the release of Prince's album Signed
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Speaker 1: of the Times to Believe, came out in nineteen eighty seven,
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Speaker 1: this is Prince's social commentary on that era. Sign of
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Speaker 1: the Times is thematically Prince took a cue here from
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Speaker 1: Curtis Mayfield, from Marvin Gay, and he's addressing societal ills
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Speaker 1: from that era, the eighties, crack epidemic, poverty, AIDS, and
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Speaker 1: like I said, just in general societal ills. Okay, Now
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Speaker 1: I found a great quote about Sign of the Times
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Speaker 1: from writer, and I apologize if I'm butchering this guy's name.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't find the pronunciation for it. Writer's name is
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Speaker 1: Hanif abduurra Queed. I believe that's how you say his name,
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Speaker 1: and honey, if if I'm getting it wrong, I apologize,
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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna spells last name if you guys want to look.
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Speaker 2: This up ab d u r r a quib. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So this quote from Haneif says on the politics of
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Speaker 1: Sign of the Times that they quote are not those
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Speaker 1: of solutions, but those of survival in the face of
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Speaker 1: which you might not survive for much longer. The politics
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Speaker 1: of survival say that we may dance in the face
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Speaker 1: of a coming apocalypse. We may, in the face of
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Speaker 1: a coming apocalypse, go to bed with someone or love someone.
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Speaker 1: We didn't know right before it started. We may play
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Speaker 1: in the streets or fantasize about a new world to
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Speaker 1: run into. On Sign of the Times, after laying out
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Speaker 1: a terrifying landscape, Prince pushes the landscape aside, lays out
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Speaker 1: all of our options for survival, and tells us to
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Speaker 1: take our pick again. That's Hanef Abdurah Queb for MTV
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Speaker 1: News actually on Prince's Sign of the Times, the Purple
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Speaker 1: Ones commentary on the era that he was creating in
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Speaker 1: at the time in the mid nineteen eighties.
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Speaker 2: Now, this era, the era that we are in right
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Speaker 2: now in.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five, needs some attention in today's after party. Survival,
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Speaker 1: as you just heard in that quote, was a theme
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Speaker 1: of Sign of the Times, And I can't help but
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Speaker 1: be reminded of Cassie Ventura, who testified this week and
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Speaker 1: this era's Trial of the century in the Sean Diddy
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Speaker 1: Comb's case. Okay, I'm not sure what Cassie Ventura feared
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Speaker 1: the most before she went to bed with Sean Combs
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Speaker 1: for the first time. I'm not sure what she perceived
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Speaker 1: to be her quote unquote coming apocalypse, or if she
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Speaker 1: had one at all. But if the prosecution in this
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Speaker 1: trial that started this week is telling the truth. Then
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Speaker 1: it's being made clear to all of us right now
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Speaker 1: in that courtroom that Diddy himself was Cassie's apocalypse. The
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Speaker 1: details revealed in the first few days of this trial,
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Speaker 1: including of course He's recounting of their relationship up there
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Speaker 1: on the stand, these details are shocking. Never mind the
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Speaker 1: sordid sex stuff, of which there is plenty, the more
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Speaker 1: benign details about how Cassie and did He first got
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Speaker 1: together play out like a cautionary after school special for
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Speaker 1: young beautiful women trying to make it in the music business.
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Speaker 1: Cassie testified on Tuesday of this week for six hours.
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Speaker 1: You can hear from the prosecutors questioning the building blocks
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Speaker 1: for the racketeering case that they're trying to make, and
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Speaker 1: the prosecution, i think, based on the legal analysis that
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Speaker 1: I've read so far, did pretty well in this area. Okay,
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Speaker 1: now it remains to be seen of this is going
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Speaker 1: to play out. Cassie has not yet had to stand
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Speaker 1: up there and take questions from the defense. But as
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Speaker 1: for the prosecution, like I mentioned, they had a lot
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Speaker 1: of questions regarding who worked for who, who did what, what,
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Speaker 1: their roles were and that's gonna speak to the racketeering
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Speaker 1: part of this. But they also got and this is
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Speaker 1: what you're gonna read a lot about. You're gonna hear
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Speaker 1: a lot about the coming days. They also got into
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Speaker 1: the freak off details. Now, it's important to note that
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Speaker 1: these details were discussed in a courtroom, okay, under the
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Speaker 1: penalty of perjury. This is much much different than sordid
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Speaker 1: celebrity sexual conjecture on TikTok. Okay, this is where things
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Speaker 1: get real, guys. These details are being brought out into
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Speaker 1: the public by prosecutors because prosecutors are betting that they
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Speaker 1: have enough evidence to prove that these details are true
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Speaker 1: and that they're going to help them win their case. Now,
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Speaker 1: that is a much different paradigm than some TikTok creator
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Speaker 1: blasting out whatever their cousin, stepfather's uncles mechanic heard at
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Speaker 1: the cookout over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that these details that we just.
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Speaker 1: Heard in court this week are true, not yet anyway,
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Speaker 1: But it does mean that their veracity is a lot
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Speaker 1: more likely than anything that we've heard in public prior
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Speaker 1: to the start of this trial. This is why when
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Speaker 1: I did that last episode on Sean Combs, I based
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Speaker 1: the entire thing on the indictments, the actual legal documents, Okay,
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Speaker 1: because with so much noise out there, who the hell
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Speaker 1: knows what is real and what is not. But when
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Speaker 1: prosecutors approached the details, the facts, the accusations, when they
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Speaker 1: approached them with legality, you know you're airing closer to
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Speaker 1: the truth than anything else.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And I want to take a little victory lap here
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Speaker 1: and note that a lot of the details that Cassie
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Speaker 1: gave on the stand corroborate the details from our last.
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Speaker 2: Episode on Sean Combs.
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Speaker 1: Specifically, one little bit here is the bit about the
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Speaker 1: color of her fingernails, that specificity that Combs made her
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Speaker 1: paint her nails with before engaging in a frea cough
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Speaker 1: that came out in court. And there's more. There's a
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Speaker 1: ton more details are Honestly, Prince would blush, Okay, perhaps
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Speaker 1: Prince would even gag, maybe throw up in his mouth.
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Speaker 2: The details are fucking disgusting.
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Speaker 1: They are gnarly. And every legal analyst that I've heard
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Speaker 1: from thus far who was in the courtroom has said
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Speaker 1: the same thing that they were hard to hear. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this isn't some hardcore true crime murder with disgusting, violent details.
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Speaker 2: This is all about sex.
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Speaker 1: And every legal analyst that I've heard so far has
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Speaker 1: said the same thing, that they just wanted the testimony
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Speaker 1: to stop mass stripper heels as you can guess, lots
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Speaker 1: and lots of baby oil, even more baby oil than
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Speaker 1: you can imagine. I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's true.
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Speaker 1: Cassie testified about unwanted sex acts that she was forced
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Speaker 1: into by Sean Combs, how he would urinate under her,
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Speaker 1: into her mouth at one point, choking her in that act. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's there's also there's so much more, Okay. She testified
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Speaker 1: to more discusting behavior that I'm going to get into here.
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Speaker 1: It's worse than what I just detailed, Okay, so that
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Speaker 1: should tell you how bad it is. I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to get into it here.
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Speaker 2: It's that bad. It's im important to note.
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Speaker 1: I guess this is as good place as any that
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Speaker 1: Shawn Combs denies any wrongdoing here. Okay, maintains his innocence,
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Speaker 1: But in the first few days of this trial, I'm
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Speaker 1: just on the one hand, I am shocked that I'm
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Speaker 1: shocked after everything I know about this, about all the
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Speaker 1: details that I already understand. I'm already well versed in.
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Speaker 1: I'm shocked that I am shocked, but here I am.
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Speaker 1: Now by the time you've heard this episode, Cassie will
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Speaker 1: have had another session on the stand. Who knows what
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Speaker 1: other details are going to be divulged. The defense is
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Speaker 1: going to get shot here at proving to the jury
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Speaker 1: that Cassie was a willing participant in this activity. That's
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Speaker 1: going to be what their claim is, that she was
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Speaker 1: just as freaky as he was. We're going to see
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Speaker 1: if they're successful and making that case or not. This
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Speaker 1: trial is going to be going on for about another
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Speaker 1: eight weeks or so. The first week is proving to
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Speaker 1: be explosive, and it's so explosive that I'm spending a
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Speaker 1: little more time here in the after party on it
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Speaker 1: than I thought I would. And I just so you
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Speaker 1: guys know, as the trial develops, I'm going to be
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Speaker 1: bringing you my point of view on the facts, on
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Speaker 1: the details, on what we're getting in court when I
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Speaker 1: think it's relevant. I'm not saying we're gonna be doing
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Speaker 1: it every week, but who knows, maybe the details will
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Speaker 1: just be you won't.
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Speaker 2: Be able to ignore them.
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Speaker 1: Maybe this will be a true trial of the century,
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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll have cause to discuss every week. But
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Speaker 1: like I said, when something pops off and I feel
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Speaker 1: like my voice and my opinion is going to add something,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to you about it here in
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Speaker 1: the after party. And then when this trial wraps, like
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Speaker 1: I said, in about eight weeks, we will have our
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Speaker 1: third and final Sean Diddycombe's episode on Disgraceland for you guys.
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Speaker 1: All right, before all of that, we have a rewind
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Speaker 1: episode of disgrace and coming your way tomorrow next to
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Speaker 1: your feed. Right after this bonus episode, we're revisiting our
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Speaker 1: episodes on The Grateful Dead. Part one on the Dead's Origins,
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Speaker 1: Incidentally, we're in the middle of planning right now a
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Speaker 1: our episode on bosc Yacht, we cover not only Boscot's
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Speaker 1: art in this episode, but also his musicianship. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: when you're listening to this episode, be thinking about what musicians,
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Speaker 1: what rock stars excelled at a second art or a
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Speaker 1: Lots of rock stars are or were great painters. George
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Speaker 1: Harrison comes to mind, Bob Dylan, but it can be anything.
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Speaker 1: Be a sport. Rod Stewart supposedly a great soccer player.
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Speaker 1: I think Lars from Metallica almost went pro as a
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Speaker 1: serious fencer. So I'm interested in this because I think
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Speaker 1: the same sort of tenacity that you have to bring
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Speaker 1: one area of your life that you commit yourself to.
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Speaker 1: I think it's transferable in a lot of ways for
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Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I'm interested to know who
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Speaker 1: has uh, who's done it in sort of two arenas,
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Speaker 1: so to speak, Which rock star was just as good
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Speaker 1: at another art or sport as he or she was
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Speaker 1: at music. That's gonna be the question of the week
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Speaker 1: next week. Six one seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: where I'm at him in the phone booth, that's the
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Speaker 1: You want to send me a voicemail or text six
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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight to
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Speaker 1: do so, you know. In light of this Prince episode,
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Speaker 1: this week, we asked the question which artists best seesed
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Speaker 1: their moment their moment in time? Was it Stevie Wonder?
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Speaker 1: I think I threw Stevie out there. Marvin Gaye. Perhaps
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Speaker 1: I talked about Curtis Mayfield a little bit earlier in
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Speaker 1: this episode.
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Speaker 2: Six oh nine calls in with this answer, chick your.
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Speaker 3: Badass, it's Wallhawston from the sixth oh ninth Country Listen.
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Speaker 3: The person who sees the moment most was Elvis Presley
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Speaker 3: nineteen fifty six. Come on, forget about it, bro.
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Speaker 2: Six oh nine.
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Speaker 1: Great answer, obvious, obvious one, Elvis Pressley. I can't believe
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Speaker 1: I didn't think of that.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. Let's get the same question answered
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Speaker 1: from the nine to one six.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, this is mister Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina,
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Speaker 3: by the way of the nine one six, responding to
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Speaker 3: your question about a band that captured a moment in time,
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Speaker 3: and this is one that is definitely not great music,
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Speaker 3: but I think they hit the mark. LNFAO party band
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Speaker 3: comes out in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
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Speaker 3: twenty ten, or in the midst of a recession, or
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Speaker 3: in two different wars.
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Speaker 4: The country was.
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Speaker 3: Divided politically, and myself, as an older millennial, was struggling
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Speaker 3: as where many others work to deal with an economy
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Speaker 3: that was not providing options and opportunities that we were.
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Speaker 3: And here comes a band that comes out and has
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Speaker 3: a simple message which is essentially, fuck it, man, we
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Speaker 3: might as well have a good time. We might as
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Speaker 3: well party. Around that time, I was in my late
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Speaker 3: twenties early thirties, you could not go into a bar,
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Speaker 3: or a club or anywhere else and not hear lmfao
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Speaker 3: the rest of that crew, Dirt, Nasty, Mickey Avalon, Little John.
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Speaker 3: It was just party music. It was designed to distract
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Speaker 3: from the fact that none of us were going to
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Speaker 3: get the opportunities you thought we were gonna have. You
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Speaker 3: and I canna have a house and I can have
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Speaker 3: much money. You might as well have a good time.
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Speaker 3: So that's what we did. We partied, You had fun.
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Speaker 3: We were probably too old to still be partying, but
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Speaker 3: there was little else that we could do with a
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Speaker 3: little money that we still had. So I think that's
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Speaker 3: an interesting example. Love to hear your thoughts on that
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Speaker 3: love the show.
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Speaker 1: Rock and Roller nine incredible answer. I love it, super thoughtful.
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Speaker 1: I love the way you laid it out, and I
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Speaker 1: can attest I was there during that time. You were
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Speaker 1: absolutely right out on MFAO. That song was everywhere, and
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Speaker 1: it did capture the feeling of that moment that you
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Speaker 1: that you just so well articulated. It's interesting you said,
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Speaker 1: you know, as a millennial. I'm not a millennial of
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Speaker 1: Gen X, but I do remember that moment, and I
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Speaker 1: was in a sort of a at that time in
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Speaker 1: my life was sort of prolonged adolescents and you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of acting like a like a dirt bag and
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Speaker 1: doing things I probably was too old to be doing
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Speaker 1: at that time. And it's funny you say, as a millennial,
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Speaker 1: you you you weren't going to have the opportunities to
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Speaker 1: do the things that you were promised.
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Speaker 2: And I just had this thought.
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Speaker 1: You know, in gen X, we weren't promised shit. We
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Speaker 1: just came at it like we weren't going to get anything.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me.
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Speaker 1: And I think millennials had a much different upbringing with
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Speaker 1: their parents where they were sort of you guys kind
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Speaker 1: of grew up on padded playgrounds and you know that
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Speaker 1: sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: But hey, I'm not judging. I love you. I'm married
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Speaker 2: to one of you, So there we go.
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Speaker 1: Love the call, Thank you, nine one six sort of
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Speaker 1: on point with that same sort of on theme with that,
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Speaker 1: with that answer of mine there and that that voicemail
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Speaker 1: we just heard from the caller. I want to go
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Speaker 1: to this voicemail from the nine one seven from Martha,
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Speaker 1: and now this this is she's talking about Winona from
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back, but it's still apropole of
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Speaker 1: the discussion we're having right here. This is the nine
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Speaker 1: to one seven, Martha. This is Marta calling from.
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Speaker 4: The four o four, even though my phone starts with
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Speaker 4: plenty of those, but keep it up. I love and
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Speaker 4: thank you.
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Speaker 3: You have to talk to me so much.
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Speaker 3: Made me go back to.
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Speaker 4: The entire history of it. I love it, Thank you,
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Speaker 4: keep it up.
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Speaker 2: Bye bye, Martha, thank you so much for the call. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I can't believe. Are you sure I didn't mention reality bites?
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Speaker 2: I mean I do.
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Speaker 1: I do kind of whiff sometimes, so you know, as possible.
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Speaker 1: But that movie is incredible and it might be uh,
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Speaker 1: it might be one of his most definitely her most
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Speaker 1: gen X. God, if I didn't mention that, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: You're right to call me out on that, Martha. And
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Speaker 1: mentioned that I relate to Pittsburgh fans. I have a
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20:32
Speaker 1: had a chance to go see Terry Bradshaw speak the
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Speaker 2: I should have went.
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Speaker 1: Historical fiction is a nice blend of genres, and there
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20:51
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Speaker 2: It might be his ninth novel. I can't remember where it.
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Speaker 1: Is in the Succession of Us in the yeah succession right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I've read a bunch.
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Speaker 1: I'm shocked at how good this one is. I am
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Speaker 1: The writing is incredible.
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Speaker 1: The movie did not do well, but I don't remember
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21:44
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Speaker 1: Her first book, in A Dark Dark Wood, was fantastic,
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Speaker 2: It's worth a time. Hope you like it. Lisa from
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Speaker 2: the nine oh seven, Thank you, Lisa, appreciate you do this.
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Speaker 1: World it was prince, in HIS music whom. I always
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Speaker 1: loved i'm so glad You featured the harrison tribute at
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Speaker 1: the end. Of the episode The look On danny's faces
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Speaker 1: prince enters the ethereal zone and absolutely rips the fuck
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Speaker 1: moments in the history. Recorded, LIVE music yes i, Agree.
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Speaker 1: Having a break prince came back out and PERFORMED an
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Speaker 1: almost dj set using samplers and. Other electronic gear i'm
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Speaker 1: truly deserves to be held alongside classical Masters.
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Speaker 1: Many artists stay truthful and stick it out, in their
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Speaker 1: hometown preferring capitals. And such like that was another thing
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Speaker 1: that made. Him so unique he did, things HIS way
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