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Trumps response to Khamenei (ft. Str. Batool Subeiti) · After Maghrib 🌙

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  This is Mullah Ahmad Al Rahim Salaam Alaikum to live.
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  You will know that in the last few days, brothers, sisters,
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  we've had some absolutely humongous news coming out from
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  the Middle East, and we are seeing a fault unfold in front
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  of our eyes, an event which I think is going to shape the
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  course of the coming months, if not years.
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  And I think it's going to affect the way we see the situation in
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  the Middle East. We've of course discussed the
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  genocide taking place in Gaza and this conversation today is
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  going to be 1 which is linked but primarily focused on the
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  attacks on Iran by the genocidal entity of Israel.
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  This is something which is so important for us to discuss.
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  How did it come about? What's the situation now and
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  what can we expect to happen in days, weeks and months to come?
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  So we have a returning special guest joining us today.
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  But before we introduce her, my great honour and pleasure to sit
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  beside my dear brother so that I did another week.
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  So how are you?
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  Hamdallah, I'm all on a personal level, Hamdallah, and I say that
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  what I mean by that is I can go to my day-to-day life, I can go
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  to work, I can come home, seal my family roof over their head.
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  Don't need to worry if there's going to be a bombardment.
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  Don't need to worry if you know there's a, you know, a genocide
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  happening next door like these massacres.
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  I, I don't need to think like that.
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  But now, especially with what you mentioned, now we want,
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  we're going to discuss the unfolding events in Iran.
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  That's made me even think greater that now the hands of
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  Israel, if we can call this hands.
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  Inshallah, Allah cuts off one day.
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  It's now extending beyond just as it's now extending beyond
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  just Philistine and it's come to home and it's come much deeper
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  to home. And I, I say this as a Shia
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  Muslim and we saw how they tried to deal with now they've come to
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  Iran. So when when I say this, as much
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  as I have this love to see freedom and Gaza, now it's even
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  greater, in fact 10 times greater.
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  So it means a lot. So there's so much questions
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  like I want to understand more what's happening on the ground
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  between Iran, because Iran, whether people admit it or not,
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  they represent the Shia. Well, that means they represent
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  me, they represent you and they represent every Shia across the
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  world. So this is it.
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  It's an interesting one. We've seen, as you've mentioned,
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  Israel has attacked not just Iran or Gaza, but also Lebanon,
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  Syria, Iraq, Yemen, the coast of Malta with impunity, no mercy.
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  And it really employed some inhumane tactics.
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  And we saw that, of course, in the last few days in Dahan.
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  And of course, we believe hundreds of people have died as
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  a result of the attacks. But we are going to dissect this
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  in more detail with our special guest, sister Batul Subbeti,
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  Islam Alaikum's sister. How are you doing?
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  It's a pleasure and honour to be here.
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  Thank you, thank you, thank you for.
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  Coming back on. Yeah, unfortunately, the last
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  time you came on, we were in somewhat of a similar situation
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  where we saw, I think the the Israeli entity enter borders
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  which are not theirs, employee tactics of shock and awe, as we
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  were saying before the podcast, attempt to divide and conquer.
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  And unfortunately, we're somewhat in a similar situation.
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  What I think 8-9 months on since we last spoke, but now we're
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  talking about Iran. What is the, the general
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  situation? Because I think a lot of people
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  who are listening now take great pride and interest in the, you
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  know, their visits, their memories to Iran, kind of leave
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  it there. Don't know much more, don't know
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  the history, don't know the the last 46 years since the start of
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  the revolution and why and how Iran has got to a place where
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  they are now considered Public Enemy #1 as a state, especially
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  to the US compared to times prior.
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  What is the reason firstly for Iran's involvement and why are
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  they being attacked and and what is their kind of their, their
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  role in this, in this state of affairs?
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  No, it's all really good questions.
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  I think if we start on a foundational level, I mean, you
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  guys have been talking about how the Israeli occupation entities,
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  this striking stake of the West in this region that's inherently
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  expansionist. We've been seeing its tentacles
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  in terms of it wanting to deal with each front separately.
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  These echo the words that Imam Khomeini made decades ago, even
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  prior to the Islamic Revolution, where he'd sit on the member and
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  he would say that the Israeli occupation entity, its motto is
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  from the Nile to the Euphrates. So what does that mean, Neil?
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  And the for us? So the Egyptians need to be
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  concerned, the Iraqis need to be concerned.
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  This is an entity that will not stop at the borders that are
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  defined to it by the the. Greater Israel that we speak
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  about. Yeah, exactly.
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  The Greater Israel Project, it's like, yes, the West might
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  confined them within certain boundaries to fulfil their
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  functional role as far as they're concerned.
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  And maybe the West doesn't want Israel to expand beyond those
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  certain borders because the more Israel expands, the more
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  resistance and opposition there is.
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  So Hezbollah was born out of the and the invasion of South
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  Lebanon. But Israel has its own plan in
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  its own agenda, and the West won't oppose that plan in the
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  agenda unless there is active opposition on the ground.
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  So the real crux of the threat with the West is if there is any
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  movement, it doesn't really care about the ideological background
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  of that movement. If there is a movement that is
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  trying to liberate itself and trying to exit the hegemony of
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  the West, where the West is interested specifically in that
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  area or in that region, they will have a problem with them.
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  So in 1979, that's when the thorough Islamia happened in
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  which you had 98.9% of the Iranian population who took onto
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  the streets and the Shia, the slogan was no East, no W Islamic
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  Republic. They wanted to be freed from the
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  shackles of this hegemony and hey Hatman Adila was the
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  underpinning of that. So during the Western backed war
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  on Iran via Saddam, I look at Saddam as a kind of tool that
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  was used to bring down the revolution.
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  The Shiite of the people was, you know, if you solve us, we
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  are the children of Ramadan. If you kill us, we are the
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  children of Ashura. Whereas prior to this
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  revolution, the whole reason that the uproar happened was
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  because you had a man who was called the Shah of Iran who
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  enslaved Iran and Iran was completely hostage to the West.
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  The Iran had really strong relations with the Israeli
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  occupation entity. I mean, look at the level of
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  hypocrisy. It was to the point where the
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  West, it was under Western auspices that uranium enrichment
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  happened in the Iran during the 60s.
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  So, so much about Iran having, you know, the ability to enrich.
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  The issue is not Iran having that ability.
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  It is an independent Iran. It is a free Iran that cares
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  about its own interests having that.
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  So as soon as the revolution happened, the cornerstone of it
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  was as far as foreign policy was concerned as per Islam,
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  supporting the oppressed wherever they are.
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  So for example, Imahoani cut ties with the South African
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  regime that was practicing apartheid.
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  As far as Palestine was concerned, he took down the
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  Israeli embassy, cut ties officially and erected the PLO's
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  embassy. Now the PLO was a Palestinian
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  liberation organization that at that time was engaged in armed
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  struggle and even a portion of the Homs money, tax money was
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  given to groups that will Marxist Leninist that were
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  fighting the occupation at the time.
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  This was before Hamas was born in the late 80s.
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  So you have the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine,
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  that a portion of tax and some people even came to the Imam,
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  some religious figures and said, is this allowed?
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  Like can you do this because these are not Muslim groups?
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  And he's, he gave the same answer that Hajj Qasem Soleimani
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  gave several decades later where he said, we recognise 2 lines.
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  Are you willing to fight the occupation or are you willing to
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  surrender and subdue? And that is, I mean, even when
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  you look at the war that was opposed on Iran, Despite that
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  and despite Iran having really kind of crippled abilities to
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  defend itself because it wasn't a state that was established.
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  And this war lasted a brutal 8 years and was really difficult
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  in the material sense. Iran still sent its newly formed
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  IRGC men to go and train the men in the South of Lebanon.
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  And the formation of the Islamic resistance of Lebanon happened,
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  you know, under that strong Iranian support.
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  And when the Quds Force was born and Qassem Soleimani was put at
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  the helm of it, he quickly adopted the Palestinian file.
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  And he materially supported the resistance movements on the
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  ground in a way in which he made sure that they can manufacture
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  their own weapons. And he taught them how to make
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  that. The whole tunnel networks that
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  exist within Raza, he was the architect of it.
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  And America and especially Israel will never forget that.
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  That explains why someone like Netanyahu looks at Iran and
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  says, that's my biggest threat. You asked me what's number 123?
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  I'll tell you, Iran, Iran, Iran because they see that as the
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  glue. Yeah, They see Iran as
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  ultimately the glue. And they call it like, you know,
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  like the Iranian tentacles that are expanding itself in the
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  region. So it's not just Iran liberating
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  itself. It's the model.
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  It's the free model. So can I ask because this is
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  quite interesting, because what we're seeing now is in many ways
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  reminiscent of what we saw in Iraq 22 years ago.
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  Of course this the, the, the claim of weapons of mass
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  destruction in Iraq at a time an excuse to then end some military
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  militarily, to have some involvement to try and as you,
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  as you mentioned, instigate regime change and then of course
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  rebuild a Middle Eastern state according to your own whims and
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  desires as a Western imperialist nation.
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  Now one may argue that this is similar in terms of tactics that
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  we've seen in the past. And what's interesting is now
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  the Iran that we're looking at now is not the Iraq that we saw
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  in 2003, because of course Iran has the second largest military
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  in, in, in, in the region. They've got 610,000 active
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  soldiers, They have 325,000 on reserve.
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  They have a, a ballistic air defence system, which is
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  arguably, if not, you know, one of, if not the strongest in the
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  region. And of course they are not a
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  small fish, right? So for example, the Israeli
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  entity attacking Lebanon OR Gaza or Yemen or any other group
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  cannot really be compared to in terms of scale and size
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  attacking Iran. And I think one thing we've seen
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  in the last few days is the fact that, yes, you know, we saw a
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  lot of intense attacks on the first night of attacks on Dharan
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  and across Iran. But I think what's really been
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  interesting is the scale of response from Iran.
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  So different stocks that are being used, different types of
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  missiles, very precise targeting, a penetration of
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  different air defence systems employed by Israel and all other
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  defences, interceptors between the point of the point of the
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  shock taking place and of course the point of attack.
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  And it's interesting to see now that we are kind of at, you
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  know, a fork in a road where things either cease now and
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  there's some sort of agreement on on the table that's accepted
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  because we know, of course, this attack started at a point of
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  negotiation and the attack was made by Israel and not by Iran.
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  And they continually say we did not initiate this.
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  So we can either see a situation or maybe this is a question if
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  you use this stuff, but we may either see a situation where an
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  agreement is made or a situation where things escalate,
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  assassinations are made. You know, Iran doesn't back
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  down, Israel doesn't back down. the US may militarily get
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  involved. There's risk of larger scale
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  escalation. What do you think so?
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  There is no I Yeah, only for me personally.
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  I'm sitting at home. I turn on the news and I'm
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  watching Iran defending itself and this is this is how I see
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  it. But with that defence, there's
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  something more to it. It's resisting to aggression,
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  honey. And that's something unique.
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  I don't think we find it anywhere in the Middle East
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  currently. During my lifetime, I haven't
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  witnessed that. So when I see something like
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  that, I'm like, no, there is a greater cause.
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  And maybe I can ask a question and answer your question or ask
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  you a question. Is that what is Iran's strategic
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  goals now? They they are in this war, if we
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  can call it now with Israel, Is it deterrence?
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  Is it simply the cause of Palestine or is there something
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  deeper? Because they could easily say,
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  you know what? We want peace, let's make a
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  ceasefire and walk on. But no, they continue to stand
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  and resist this aggression that's happening.
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  So I think you both made an important point and that is that
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  Iran right now, specifically this war, Iran didn't ask for
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  this war and Iran did not initiate this war.
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  And Iran is in the victim position and Iran is deterring
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  and resisting that aggression. And I would say for the past
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  four decades, the Iranian position has been 1 of
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  deterrence rather than offensive.
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  Iran has never initiated a war. As far as the issue, the crux of
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  the issue they help with Iran is that it's empowering the region
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  and it's empowering the actors within the region that want the
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  support fight against that aggression.
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  But Iran, contrary to how some people might want it.
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  So people's conventional idea of support is like, oh, but like
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  why doesn't Iran strike missiles into the heart of the Israeli
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  occupation entity at least 20 months of genocide?
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  Why did it take an Israeli aggression on Iranian soil to
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  prompt Iran's response? Because Iran does not consider
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  it its place to wage a war on behalf of another people.
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  It empowers those people that want to resist to.
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  Defend they want. To resist exactly to defend
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  themselves. So it's important that we we
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  categorize Iran within that. I think in terms of why this war
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  is happening right now. You raised a really important
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  point, Ahmed, about the quote UN quote new Middle East project
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  set up that the West had for the region in the turn of the 21st
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  century. And that involved the invasions
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  of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, the stationing of troops
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  in Pakistan, essentially engulfing and circling the
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  Islamic Republic. That was the idea was to
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  basically topple it and to use military means that it's, it's
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  so interesting. It's like if the 8 year war
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  didn't work those tactics 20 years ago as you were mentioning
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  when Iran didn't even have a fraction of the capabilities
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  that it has today, but may out of obviously also the other side
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  has also like their capabilities have have exponentially grown as
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  well. But notwithstanding that though,
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  Iran has demonstrated itself in these fast in these past five
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  days in terms of not only the precision of its missiles and
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  its ability to hit and to kind of overcome all of those multi
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  layers of air defence and to be that precise, but to also
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  inflict that level of mass destruction.
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  This is almost right now a testing grounds for America to
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  see what is Irans position and what is Israeli position.
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  It wants to ascertain the true power balance on the ground.
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  And especially someone like Trump, he's very transactional
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  in his nature. Trump has no patient for
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  failures, so to speak. So the issue, the crux that
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  Trump has with Netanyahu is not that he's a genocidal manic
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  that's just been massacring Palestinians for the past 20
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  months. It's like, why are you so weak
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  that you didn't manage to defeat guerrilla warfare on the ground
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  in Gaza? 350 square kilometres of Wazza.
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  You can recapture Hazza. You can defeat Hamas that is
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  made-up of a few 10s of thousands of fighters.
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  You think you you can take on Iran?
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  I mean, if America couldn't take over, couldn't take over Yemen,
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  you know, and the bombing campaign only lasted for seven
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  weeks. And then Trump got to a
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  position, very Trumpian way of dealing with things, right?
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  It's like, oh, the Yemenis want to stop the war.
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  And so therefore we are conceding.
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  So right now America wants to really test Iran's capabilities
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  on the ground and understand where it stands, not just
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  relying on its intelligence reports and the rest of it.
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  And each entity needs to prove itself if Iran manages to
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  paralyze the Israeli occupation entity and survives this, if you
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  like, almost test of an existential threat, right?
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  Because you mentioned this in the beginning, Ahmed, that the
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  goal is regime change and it is regime change, then Iran would
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  have consolidated itself post war and Iran will emerge
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  stronger, whereas the Israeli occupation entity emerging
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  weaker is the final nail in the coffin.
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  Israel right now is so desperate.
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  Last year, Netanyahu came out and had this idea of a new
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  Middle East. It's like we are the sheriffs of
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  this whole region, America. And Trump is like, OK, I will
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  give you everything. I will stand with you until the
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  end. Even just last week, not just
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  militarily speaking will give you all the ammunition that you
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  need, but last week in the UN, the US administration vetoed the
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  idea of a Palestinian statehood. That resolution that they tried
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  to pass. Even, you know, the sanctioning
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  of Benguvira smart rich, the extreme right wing within the
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  entity that occurred in Europe, the sanctioning, including the
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  UK. Trump was like we we disagree
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  with that sanctioning. This is basically America trying
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  to send a signal to Israel like we are with you until the end.
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  We are supporting you, but please just like prove yourself,
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  just be successful. But what happens when you go
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  from protecting our interests to needing our net protection and
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  you're draining us And especially someone like Trump
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  who's very transactional in his approach, who doesn't like
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  failures. We've seen the way that he dealt
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  with someone like Zelensky, for example.
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  He's like, why are we in a war with Russia that is so strong
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  and this war is only weakening Ukraine and draining our
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  resources? Rather than, I don't know,
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  giving $300 million to Ukraine in this war, why don't we just
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  strike a deal with Russia, You know, because we can actually
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  get something in return from Russia.
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  Trump has that propensity. So with an entity like Iran, I
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  wouldn't be surprised if post war, when Israel proves itself
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  to be a failure and therefore by default will shrink too much.
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  It's true size, Trump will go in the direction of really
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  acknowledging the true power balance on the ground, which
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  includes the resistance axis. But this ultimately, this war
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  was launched by Israel. And we're seeing Israel,
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  obviously with America's unconditional support, but
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  Israel's bearing the brunt. Israel's the collateral in this
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  because we're not seeing American bases burning right
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  here. We're seeing Israel suffer.
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  I do agree with that and I do, I think, I think that's probably
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  all in agreement. What I do think is interesting
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  existentialism and I think that that comes down to the core of
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  the situation is whether Iran sees it as an existential threat
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  in terms of the attacks that they're now receiving, whether
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  they feel that then their defence of themselves is is
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  critical to their existence or not.
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  And the same goes for as well as well their claims, Trump's
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  claims of Iran must not have a nuclear weapons like a parrot,
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  you know, a broken record. He keeps repeating the statement
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  Iran must, must not have a nuclear.
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  It's really, really, really annoying.
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  But you know, whether it's on Twitter or anything else.
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  But what I'm saying is that that comes down to the core of it,
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  right? And one thing which you've
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  mentioned, and you mentioned a really nice point about the
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  continued varied approaches that they've tried over the course of
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  decades in the region to to ascertain control, one of them
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  being regime change. And we've seen that that the
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  involvement within a domestic situation and we saw as in Iran
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  in the early 50s with Mossadegh and all of that, you know, this
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  has been a tactic which has been used for decades now, you know,
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  but that question of regime change is very important.
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  And I think it's no coincidence that there are individuals from
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  different parts of the world who ideologically align with a free
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  Iran, that being an Iran, which is, you know, a Democratic
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  Republic rather than an Islamic Republic, a secular government.
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  And those people are the likes of Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson,
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  you know, all of these guys, Ben Shapiro, people like that, who
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  are out there and publicly supporting that.
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  And these are the same people who have vested interests in
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  Gulf states. For example, Jared Kushner, who
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  had the affinity trust. He set up something called the
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  Affinity Trust, which is, as he said in his own words, a
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  corridor for Saudi investment into into Israel and Gulf State
• 20:01
  investment into Israel. So we're seeing a group of
• 20:04
  people, a demographic, a demographic of people calling
• 20:07
  for regime change. We're seeing the the exiled,
• 20:10
  so-called Crown Prince of Iran, Mr. Pahlevi, who's living in the
• 20:14
  US, who's releasing videos calling now's the time for
• 20:17
  regime change. Is that firstly like very like
• 20:22
  for those who are home listening?
• 20:23
  We're trying to be unfiltered. But also at the same time non
• 20:26
  bias, OK, we're trying to understand the truth of the
• 20:28
  issue. I know you see us as as Shia and
• 20:31
  what not. And, and of course we will have
• 20:34
  humanitarian, religious and social allegiances, maybe not
• 20:37
  allegiances, but especially biases, preferences.
• 20:40
  But something which is very important is to understand what
• 20:42
  is the truth of the matter. Now when it comes to the truth
• 20:45
  of the matter, I have like 2 or 3 related questions.
• 20:49
  OK, bear with me. The first being regime change
• 20:53
  calls in Iran. Are they legitimate in terms of
• 20:57
  the noise that's being made or is it amplified?
• 20:59
  Right, That's the first thing I'm asking.
• 21:00
  So the noise around regime change, is it actually as
• 21:04
  intense domestically as it is seen around the world?
• 21:08
  Anytime you hear any Western news outlet give any report,
• 21:11
  they're always talking about human rights abuses in Iran.
• 21:13
  And of course, for regime change #2 is the regime change or is,
• 21:18
  is the possibility of regime change a real possibility?
• 21:21
  Is it feasible? And is it likely, especially
• 21:24
  today and the day of recording, where Donald Trump has more or
• 21:28
  less effectively given a death threat to Ayatollah Khamenei on
• 21:31
  Truth Social? Is that something which is some,
• 21:34
  you know, something we have to mentally prepare for?
• 21:35
  And thirdly, if it were to happen, what would it look like?
• 21:39
  Right. I'll start off by saying that I
• 21:40
  don't think Iran is existentially threatened.
• 21:42
  Iran is a population of 90 million.
• 21:45
  You're talking about 1.5 million square kilometres.
• 21:48
  Compare that to the Israeli occupation entity, 27,000 square
• 21:52
  kilometres. You can fit 60 Israel's what
• 21:54
  sorry, 601948 historic Palestinians into into Iran.
• 22:01
  And the propensity of the two populations is entirely
• 22:05
  different. And we've seen that in just
• 22:07
  basically the course of these few days.
• 22:09
  Like, for example, you've seen that the very viral video of
• 22:12
  that Iranian news anchor who literally like a bomb had just
• 22:16
  struck very close by. And you know, she was saying her
• 22:19
  piercing words with a with a very kind of calm demeanor, but
• 22:24
  powerful voice. She was like commanding with her
• 22:26
  fingers and she just like got up so gracefully, like nothing was
• 22:30
  happening. Whereas if you compare that with
• 22:32
  the settlers, they're dying in bombshells because in in bomb
• 22:36
  shelters, because they're literally on top of each other
• 22:38
  and they're screaming and crying and, and they're afraid.
• 22:41
  And the whole, the whole concept right now of Israel is being
• 22:44
  existentially threatened because Israel is supposed to be a safe
• 22:46
  haven. It's supposed to be a secure
• 22:48
  place for these settlers. They come here guaranteeing
• 22:50
  that, which is why if any missile can intercept the iron
• 22:53
  down, the David Sling, the THAAD system, those multiple layers
• 22:56
  of, you know, defence, you're talking about Israel as an idea,
• 23:01
  as a concept. But let me ask you.
• 23:03
  I know, I know. I've asked you other questions.
• 23:05
  Yeah, coming to it. But some may.
• 23:07
  Let's look at this and say Iran or are sanctioned from within.
• 23:11
  They have domestic issues from within.
• 23:14
  On top of that, Israel are backed with by the most advanced
• 23:17
  and technologically sound air defence systems and whatnot.
• 23:20
  They're backed by Western funds, Europe and North America.
• 23:24
  What support does Iran have with the accesses in the situation it
• 23:27
  is? But the sanctions actually it's
• 23:30
  to the advantage of the I know, I.
• 23:31
  Think the factions of how able to build from within.
• 23:34
  A the tolerance and the ability to withstand and the ability to
• 23:38
  understand your cause and to understand that you are
• 23:40
  ultimately paying a price for this cause.
• 23:42
  And this is what it looks like. I can't receive cancer treatment
• 23:44
  because of the sanctions, for example.
• 23:48
  So there is a heightened awareness, the people understand
• 23:51
  the cornerstone of what this revolution represents and the
• 23:54
  price that needs to be paid. And my argument, which I hope
• 23:58
  would be just very intuitive and obvious based on what we can see
• 24:01
  on the ground, it's not based on ideology or preference, is the
• 24:06
  question. And that is, does the Islamic
• 24:08
  Republic of the United States today?
• 24:10
  And the answer to that is yes. So if America for the past four
• 24:15
  decades has been sanctioning Iran with the goal of causing
• 24:18
  regime change, so majority did not support the Islamic
• 24:21
  Republic. And they were the same people
• 24:23
  who in 1979 endured the hell of toppling the Shah in terms of
• 24:28
  what that meant. So coming in front of the Shah's
• 24:31
  tanks and hundreds and thousands were killed in the process, and
• 24:35
  they are paying the price. What same person would go
• 24:40
  through harm and pay the price for something that they don't
• 24:43
  support in the 1st place if they were the majority?
• 24:45
  That's number one. And #2 there are indications
• 24:47
  also. So when you look at the
• 24:50
  democratic process within Iran, you see that someone like our EC
• 24:55
  was elected into power the previous time before you had
• 24:59
  Possesh Kian. Yeah, the president who who last
• 25:03
  year was killed in the was, was tragically killed in the
• 25:06
  helicopter crash. He had a strong mandate of 20
• 25:09
  million Iranians. You're talking about someone
• 25:11
  who's who's. Yeah.
• 25:13
  So he's he's from the what they call the quote UN quote
• 25:15
  conservative camp. And Iran has an ability, has a
• 25:18
  strong ability to absorb, absorb energies.
• 25:21
  So you've had conservative, reformist, reformist,
• 25:23
  conservative. You've actually had more
• 25:25
  reformists in power than you have had conservatives.
• 25:28
  You have the supreme leader who said Ali Khamenei, who is
• 25:31
  elected from an assembly of experts of about 108 scholars
• 25:34
  who they themselves are elected by the people.
• 25:36
  So you can see the democratic process over here.
• 25:38
  It's like certain people that have an expertise to elect a
• 25:41
  supreme leader are elected by the people.
• 25:43
  And this supreme leader is constantly monitored on a if, if
• 25:48
  you will, hour by hour basis. And if they feel like, I don't
• 25:51
  know, if one day he wakes up in the morning and he decides to
• 25:53
  ask for lobster and crab, it's like, what are you and who have
• 25:56
  you become? And instantly question marks,
• 25:58
  right? So that monitoring is on that
• 26:00
  basis. He was someone who was opposed
• 26:03
  very openly to the JCPOA. He was opposed to the idea of
• 26:06
  negotiations with America. But when you look at the Iranian
• 26:09
  St. and you see that they elected someone like Lohani and
• 26:11
  someone who represents the position of Lohani, which is
• 26:14
  more liberal, which is more open towards the West, which looks at
• 26:17
  actually extending its hands out and, and, and entering into
• 26:19
  these agreements. What does say?
• 26:21
  I don't how many you say he says it's not wise to enter into
• 26:24
  direct negotiations with America because they'll backstab you.
• 26:27
  But if you need to get to that point where you have to see the
• 26:30
  realities for yourselves, then fine.
• 26:31
  I'm, I'm, I'm not going to veto this.
• 26:33
  I'm not going to use my power as a supreme leader to be, oh, a
• 26:36
  dictator, the word the West loves to use, right.
• 26:39
  It's like sometimes I look at the situation, I'm like, I wish
• 26:42
  you you were able. I wish Iran could walk the way
• 26:45
  you wanted it to walk because it would have removed a lot of the
• 26:49
  obstacles or a lot of the pitfalls that we see today.
• 26:52
  But the reality is it's a democracy.
• 26:56
  That is, that is the irony of the whole situation is that it
• 26:59
  is the democratic nature of the summer Republic of Iran that has
• 27:03
  led to shortfalls in certain areas, which have also been the
• 27:06
  reason for the grievances of the people as far as the economy is
• 27:10
  concerned. Because someone like Seydraisi
• 27:11
  would come and say Iran really needs to work on its domestic
• 27:14
  capabilities. If there's no strings attached
• 27:16
  with the outside world and we're fully self-sufficient and we're
• 27:19
  looking eastwards, this whole strategy was look eastwards
• 27:21
  towards China, towards Russia. Leverage those relations with
• 27:24
  friendly entities that are not going to blackmail you, Then you
• 27:27
  build your inner capabilities. And right now This is why I'm
• 27:31
  not very worried about Iran in this confrontation is that it's
• 27:33
  expertise is very strong. And all the missiles that it
• 27:36
  has, it's soft produced. They have that expertise.
• 27:39
  You, you kill a scientist, There's hundreds of other
• 27:42
  scientists. I was even listening to one of
• 27:45
  the scholars who was martyred in the attack on Friday.
• 27:48
  He was a nuclear scientist. He said something along the
• 27:51
  lines of I'm and, and, and he's like the deputy head of the
• 27:55
  Iranian energy Atomic Agency. And he said, you know, I've
• 28:00
  reached the level where I conduct interviews with you, But
• 28:03
  you know, it's those under me who I've trained who are doing
• 28:06
  the work on the ground, you know, and that's something that
• 28:10
  the West still still has to learn.
• 28:13
  I'd say they kind of know that intuitively.
• 28:16
  Like even the former head of Mossad, he came out today and he
• 28:19
  said the Iranian nation is a nation that will not surrender.
• 28:23
  Just look at their whole history and their ability to endure and
• 28:28
  withstand and tolerate pain. And it is a psychological war at
• 28:31
  the end of the day. That is what dictates the
• 28:34
  outcomes on the ground if the people give up.
• 28:36
  So the whole idea of cousin colour revolutions is built on
• 28:40
  the of propaganda, which is why the media machine is so strong.
• 28:43
  If you reign supreme in that propaganda, then you can topple
• 28:47
  governments. So for example, Someone Like You
• 28:49
  mentioned Mohammed Mossaddaq. I would use the argument that
• 28:52
  the same Islamic Republic of Iran today, the same people at
• 28:55
  one point the West was successful in their cooperation.
• 28:58
  In 1953, CIA backed with the MI 6 Mossad that that tripod, that
• 29:05
  tripartite aggression, if you will, in that attack that
• 29:09
  deposed someone that was democratically elected.
• 29:11
  Perhaps that represented the fact that there wasn't a strong
• 29:13
  leadership between the person in power and the Iranian nation.
• 29:17
  Because you have that same nation that right now that
• 29:20
  leadership hasn't toppled and the people are the majority are
• 29:23
  running behind it. Just look at look at, for
• 29:26
  example, on the 22nd of Berman. I'm sorry, I'll get to the
• 29:29
  point, but it's just to mention that when protests happen, OK,
• 29:33
  So you have like when Hajj Qasem Soleimani was, was killed, you
• 29:37
  had 10s of 1,000,000 on the streets.
• 29:39
  Every single year people come out literally in their 10s of
• 29:41
  millions, you know, giving their allegiance back to the
• 29:44
  revolutionary ideals. When Israel bombed Iran on
• 29:48
  Friday, you had mass protests that broke out on different
• 29:51
  provinces saying Iran needs to strike harder enough with
• 29:53
  strategic patience. You had women who weren't even
• 29:56
  wearing the hijab that came out and said Iran needs to develop
• 29:58
  an atomic bomb. That's that's the that's the
• 30:01
  level of rhetoric that was coming out of Iranians.
• 30:03
  Enough is enough of this kind. Brazen and open aggression of
• 30:05
  this kind only does one thing. It unites the people of a
• 30:08
  country. It pulls the strings of
• 30:11
  nationalism. Even those who might have might
• 30:14
  oppose the system or might oppose the government.
• 30:17
  In such a circumstance, the moment Naftali Bennett opens his
• 30:19
  mouth and says we want to encourage and prop the Iranian
• 30:23
  nation to turn against their leadership and against the
• 30:25
  government, the moment that comes out of Israel's mouth,
• 30:27
  they're like, we're going to change our minds.
• 30:29
  Like Israel has become that pariah state that it's almost
• 30:32
  embarrassing to be be on the same side as, which is why the
• 30:35
  Shahis, they have no credibility because they're encounter demos
• 30:38
  and they have the Israeli flag. Well, that's that's what drives
• 30:40
  me. Nuts.
• 30:41
  It's like, why are you doing signing with Israel?
• 30:43
  Yeah, you'll go to any level. Your people are getting bombed.
• 30:46
  Yeah, Yeah. You know, having a discussion
• 30:49
  with my wife, I was like, explain to me these people,
• 30:52
  like, what is wrong with them? They are happy seeing their
• 30:55
  country, their fellow countrymen, their women, their
• 30:57
  children, the Iranians being bombed, being killed, being
• 31:00
  massacred. What, just to topple a
• 31:03
  government just to side with Israel because all of this woman
• 31:06
  life, freedom and all this nonsense, It's an ideology I
• 31:09
  think I will never understand how they can operate.
• 31:12
  But obviously that mental state we've seen.
• 31:15
  Sorry, but you know, these, we've seen obviously so many, so
• 31:18
  many records that have come out to show that a lot of this is
• 31:22
  funded and a lot of these movements are funded by Mossad,
• 31:27
  funded by for other, other groups.
• 31:30
  And a lot of them are strategically placed in such a
• 31:33
  position where they can make as much noise as possible whenever
• 31:36
  possible. Even obviously in the UKI don't
• 31:39
  know if this is true when I can't verify, but I remember at
• 31:42
  the time where there were people who were on the streets here
• 31:45
  counter protesting, you know, five years ago when General
• 31:50
  Soleimani was killed. And I remember the the counter
• 31:54
  protest that was taking place and then it got exposed or there
• 31:57
  was some sort of news or rumour that a lot of these guys
• 32:00
  received funding or they were paid for the day to come out on
• 32:02
  the streets and counter protest in London.
• 32:05
  Now the point being is that some of this that counter protest.
• 32:08
  Wasn't a counter protest, it was thuggery.
• 32:10
  It was I I remember what they're doing in the streets of London.
• 32:12
  I don't know if you recall the images and the videos which is
• 32:16
  like I don't. Understand.
• 32:17
  That mentality, that thought process, how you can side with
• 32:20
  the genocide will stay and wave their flags proudly against your
• 32:23
  own people. You know, that's something I can
• 32:25
  understand. And it's nice to see, by the
• 32:27
  way, how you speak about the will of the people when it comes
• 32:30
  to regime change. And it's because the West, we've
• 32:32
  always been told, you know, Iran's oppressing the nation.
• 32:36
  Iran, you know, it's, it's ruling by force.
• 32:39
  It's like, you know, supporting terrorist organizations around
• 32:42
  the world, Like you've got the West Channel after channel,
• 32:46
  Prime Minister after Prime Minister, president after
• 32:48
  president saying the same, same, same narrative nonstop.
• 32:52
  But here we see it around in life.
• 32:55
  In fact, I will see. It's just growing because it's
• 32:59
  Iran. Like I don't know if this sounds
• 33:03
  right, but it's become like the father of the free world.
• 33:06
  Like I'm especially since objects of admiration.
• 33:09
  Since October the 7th like. You now represent every 3-4,
• 33:13
  every freeman, everyone who stands on the side of humanity.
• 33:17
  That means, yeah, you stand there like Israel by attacking.
• 33:20
  Iran has made the world love, has made them more popular.
• 33:23
  Right. And you're seeing a lot and even
• 33:24
  like when I read comments and. Things online, I'm like, OK, you
• 33:26
  you people would have never sided with that's that's exactly
• 33:29
  what would. Have never said you know what?
• 33:31
  Iran has the right to defend itself even in this current
• 33:33
  situation. But because you saw the stance
• 33:35
  Iran took when it came against the genocidal state and how they
• 33:38
  supported the oppressed people beyond Palestine, you're like,
• 33:42
  no, no, no, no. Now I see how be smarter.
• 33:45
  And I feel like Iran offers clarity to this, you know,
• 33:48
  confused world. We're seeing that a lot.
• 33:50
  And I. Think this especially like even
• 33:52
  with non-muslim non Shia western I'm talking about this your.
• 33:55
  Whitest Man Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:57
  Someone who's I mean. People who?
• 33:59
  Just do it. Hashtag is just.
• 34:01
  Just do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:02
  And you know what's interesting that I'll be honest, there are
• 34:04
  people who who disagree with things about the Iranian
• 34:07
  government and look whatever is to their own and especially the
• 34:11
  Islamic angle of things. So for example, those who are
• 34:13
  pro LGBT or whatever. OK, So for the example of Owen
• 34:17
  Jones, all right, Owen Jones has been one of the most vocal guys
• 34:19
  and Palestine, whatever, whatever, you know, he's he's
• 34:21
  proactive, he's activist on that sort of thing.
• 34:23
  But he and others alike have been very pro Iran in, in that
• 34:27
  regards. And and others on different kind
• 34:29
  of sides of the political spectrum ideologically have been
• 34:33
  siding with Iran generally. And that's not to give them
• 34:37
  credibility. But I do think that that is that
• 34:39
  it just shows that it's not a group of people who are all
• 34:43
  ideologically aligned, but there's a diverse nature of
• 34:45
  people from different backgrounds, cultures,
• 34:47
  demographics. People are walking up.
• 34:49
  Yeah, trust me, they've walking. Up, I did want to ask you.
• 34:52
  Because look, this is as I said earlier, Iran is not a small
• 34:55
  fish. So it's not the resistance in
• 34:58
  Lebanon, it's not Gaza, it's government, it's military, it's
• 35:01
  state, it's massive, it's a massive country.
• 35:04
  Declared war. You've declared war on
• 35:06
  civilization state. Quite literally.
• 35:07
  And you know, if you just look at the number of countries it
• 35:09
  borders alone, it's it's astronomical the size of the
• 35:12
  country. Now, I think it's interesting
• 35:15
  when you compare Iran to the likes of Turkey or Pakistan, at
• 35:19
  least in terms of military, military capability, Iran is
• 35:22
  very similar to these countries. Granted, Pakistan has nukes and
• 35:28
  the others don't, but I think it's interesting at least
• 35:31
  diplomatically how these countries are aligning with
• 35:34
  Iran. Now other one has come out and
• 35:36
  and spoken against Israel. Obviously, you know, that's a
• 35:39
  different conversation in terms of other one.
• 35:41
  Pakistan has assisted Iranian pilgrims in coming back from
• 35:46
  Hajj, you know, and the Iranian parliament is chanting in unison
• 35:50
  to Shakur, to Pakistan. And you know, there's they're
• 35:52
  giving support to Pakistan and and vice versa.
• 35:55
  But I think it's also noteworthy that on a kind of grander scale,
• 36:01
  the whole region changes if Iran is toppled or if Iran is backs
• 36:05
  down because then if it could be them, it could be us.
• 36:09
  And anyone is then at threat to this expansionism that we've
• 36:12
  spoken about. Do you think that there is risk
• 36:15
  of escalation to a wider regional war?
• 36:18
  We've, I mean, how most of the regions evolve in this anyway
• 36:21
  now overtly or covertly, and especially in terms of the
• 36:26
  global scale, people asking what about Russia, what about China,
• 36:30
  what about the US, what about European nations?
• 36:32
  Of course, we've seen that there's been a lot of activity
• 36:35
  in terms of flights from Cyprus from all over around the world
• 36:38
  have been coming in. I've had reports of, of military
• 36:42
  aid from China. What, what can we expect to
• 36:44
  happen if things stay as they are on today's date of filming,
• 36:47
  You know, in the coming weeks? It's a question.
• 36:50
  That, one needs to ask, is Trump the kind of man that wants to
• 36:53
  see his regional assets on fire? You know, is Trump willing to
• 36:57
  risk that American bases completely being obliterated?
• 37:02
  Trump in my assessment is not that kind of Trump in my
• 37:06
  assessment, is not really in line even with the American deep
• 37:10
  state and its approach to things.
• 37:12
  Trump, as we've mentioned, is quite transactional in his
• 37:15
  nature. When he came to the Persian Gulf
• 37:17
  area, he struck deals worth 4 to 5 trillion.
• 37:21
  We're talking about astronomical numbers.
• 37:24
  He wants to leverage economically.
• 37:26
  He wants America to be this entity that the world depends on
• 37:32
  for exports. Why is it just China that
• 37:35
  manufacturers and manages to, you know, ship all of its
• 37:39
  products abroad? America needs to be that.
• 37:41
  So we're going to launch a global war tariff so that so
• 37:46
  that we kind of create a situation within America that
• 37:49
  encourages domestic manufacturing.
• 37:53
  And exactly. So he wants to strengthen
• 37:55
  America inside and his way of dealing with the external world
• 37:58
  is different to the American deep state.
• 38:00
  So for example, even someone like Trump, he cut US aid.
• 38:03
  US aid is basically billions of dollars that are put on the side
• 38:06
  for covert operations to cause regime change.
• 38:08
  So I think one of you mentioned like the NGOs that America
• 38:12
  supports to kind of penetrate into the fabric of the society
• 38:18
  and to change hearts and minds. So like in Lebanon, for example,
• 38:20
  you'll find that NGOs probably employ the majority of the
• 38:23
  people and they spin this idea against the summit resistance of
• 38:26
  Lebanon to turn the people against them.
• 38:27
  It's really a psychological war. Trump, when he came into power,
• 38:30
  he completely slashed that he was not fond of US aid.
• 38:33
  It's not his strategy of dealing with things.
• 38:34
  His strategy is you don't bow down to what I say.
• 38:36
  And that's the crux of his issue with Iran.
• 38:38
  It's it's very much with the uranium.
• 38:41
  We see that it's like, you don't want to like stop enriching
• 38:44
  uranium. I'm going to make you bow down.
• 38:46
  It's it's that kind of approach of not being concerned with the
• 38:49
  Yeah, exactly. It's we want you to surrender.
• 38:52
  We want you to bow down. And that becomes a problem for
• 38:55
  Trump when I mean, if just if Iran listened to Trump's letter
• 39:00
  and like responded to it, it just say that he didn't put his
• 39:02
  letter behind his backside in, in 2019, things would be very
• 39:06
  different. America's the kind of person or
• 39:08
  Trump's the kind of person that's willing to put Iran as
• 39:10
  like the Prince of the whole region, Just if it gives it
• 39:12
  attention, like Trump is begging, Trump is running behind
• 39:15
  Iran for that. We know how Trump differs when
• 39:18
  it comes to NATO, for example, reducing American support for
• 39:21
  NATO or upsurging Europe's support or their share in paying
• 39:25
  like 5% GDP. It's important to understand the
• 39:28
  mentality of Trump as this kind of businessman and this
• 39:31
  transactional bargaining of recklessness is is.
• 39:33
  Is is probably his the most dangerous thing about him?
• 39:36
  So he's transactional and you know what not.
• 39:39
  But a lot of people ask is his recklessness more of a risk than
• 39:42
  anything else? But he's not.
• 39:44
  Getting what he wants when he. Throw this toys out the problem.
• 39:47
  But as far as this war. Is concerned, as we've seen it
• 39:49
  so far, Israel's the one that's bearing the brunt.
• 39:52
  And I would make the argument that Trump isn't Even so
• 39:54
  invested in Israel. Trump is not in Trump is not an
• 39:57
  ideological in the way that someone like Biden is a Zionist
• 40:01
  that would say there's no Israel would have to invent in Israel.
• 40:03
  Trump looks at is like a military base that's like, okay,
• 40:05
  serving our interests, leverage. Trump is the kind of guy who's
• 40:08
  like, we want to withdraw Syria, we want to withdraw of Iraq.
• 40:12
  Trump's strategy for the region. And by the way, he has
• 40:14
  criticized the war Hawks from the Democrats, the likes of
• 40:17
  Hillary Clinton, like, oh, if I was in power, they wouldn't have
• 40:19
  been the war in Iraq. Like he historically goes down
• 40:22
  to be against the war in Iraq. Why?
• 40:23
  Because he looks at it from a transactional perspective and
• 40:25
  he's like, we spent $7 trillion in Iraq.
• 40:28
  Do you know what we could have done with that 7 trillion?
• 40:31
  Like until today, like he, just like he envies that money that
• 40:35
  was lost, not the lives that were killed, the money that was
• 40:37
  lost. So likewise, when I look at the
• 40:40
  kind of especially the kind of guy Trump is, I don't think he's
• 40:43
  willing to risk his regional assets being on via AB.
• 40:47
  There's no credibility whatsoever for the West waging
• 40:50
  this kind of war. It's not like the world has
• 40:52
  bought the idea that Iran is a threat and Israel has completely
• 40:56
  been exposed. And American support has become
• 40:58
  a source of shame and embarrassment for Israel as
• 41:01
  well, which is why one of the first things Trump did when he
• 41:04
  came into power, because he actually stopped the war in
• 41:05
  Gaza, Like he brought it to a halt because he's like, this is
• 41:08
  just a failure. But then he was kind of
• 41:10
  pressured to restart the war. And I think it was around March
• 41:13
  when he felt like the resistance, OK, it's too strong.
• 41:15
  Like it's becoming embarrassing with this PR stunts where they
• 41:19
  take these hostages out and they're very well clothed and
• 41:21
  all these ceremonies that were happening.
• 41:23
  And like, you know, you just got guys, the militants from Hamas
• 41:25
  just roaming the streets of Azza and and they have the upper hand
• 41:28
  in the negotiations. We want to restore some kind of
• 41:30
  deterrence. And the Trump introduced the
• 41:32
  idea of the Riviera of Raza and the depopulation plans of Raza.
• 41:35
  And it's like Israel tried to fatten itself up through
• 41:39
  expansionism into Lebanon that failed.
• 41:41
  Its military strategy is not failing.
• 41:43
  Let's try the depopulation plan. OK, under military fire, if the
• 41:46
  Raza always become under more genocide, they might just agree.
• 41:49
  So so Trump is is that kind of guy in how he facilitates.
• 41:53
  He's not conventionally a proponent of militarism, which I
• 41:57
  know sounds contradictory when you look at the situation today.
• 42:00
  But even when it comes to Yemen, Yemen was protesting autism.
• 42:03
  But he. Doesn't align with that.
• 42:04
  He doesn't. And Yemen was a.
• 42:05
  Testing. And he stopped it.
• 42:06
  Yeah. I mean he, he came.
• 42:08
  In, and one of the, one of the things on his mandate was to end
• 42:10
  both wars in Ukraine and obviously in Gaza.
• 42:13
  And he's now, he's now stuck with three, which is kind of
• 42:16
  ironic, but I know what you mean.
• 42:17
  And obviously we sought the, the, the, the, the, the kind of
• 42:21
  MO of Biden and the MO of the Democrats in comparison to what
• 42:25
  we're seeing now as Trump is completely different.
• 42:27
  Of course, Trump is louder. He's more confident.
• 42:29
  He's more vocal with his support, but Biden was very
• 42:32
  slippery and snaky in the way he did things.
• 42:34
  And I think that administration, you know, good riddance for them
• 42:37
  and everything, they stood. Yeah.
• 42:37
  One thing you see by Trump? I think, I don't think we
• 42:39
  mentioned it in the last few minutes, is that there's an ego
• 42:42
  element to him. Like if you come across his his
• 42:45
  tweets and the way he discusses this nuclear deal and things
• 42:48
  like this, it's like, I gave you 60 days.
• 42:50
  I this, I that I this like he feels like, as you said earlier,
• 42:54
  like we need to bow down to him like he's that sort of man.
• 42:57
  But I don't think one should take Trump seriously.
• 43:00
  I agree. That's the.
• 43:01
  Statement because to me. He's got bipolar.
• 43:04
  To me, he's like everything. He's got a different well, the
• 43:06
  guy's messed. Man on this he chats from his
• 43:08
  backside. Yeah, if you was.
• 43:10
  If you if you have to describe Donald Trump in one word, would
• 43:13
  it be so? It depends.
• 43:15
  What angle you take from him? I'd say he's actually very
• 43:18
  charismatic. Come on.
• 43:20
  That's. One.
• 43:20
  No, I know you mean I don't say he's.
• 43:22
  A genuine. Leader, do you know, actually
• 43:24
  he's a genuine leader in the sense that I know this sounds
• 43:27
  like I'm praising him, but. It's a suffer and.
• 43:29
  It's an attribute. He's actually.
• 43:31
  Popular. I, I am of the belief that the
• 43:35
  deep state tried to get rid of him.
• 43:37
  They, they genuinely wanted to assassinate him because he's not
• 43:39
  in line with their idea and their trajectory.
• 43:41
  So even the whole coming into Syria or handing over Syria to
• 43:45
  the Israeli occupation entity and releasing those HTS rats
• 43:48
  that we just saw them come into power like that.
• 43:50
  That was kind of like before almost pre empting Trump coming
• 43:54
  in and wanted to create an obstacle in the face of Trump
• 43:57
  coming into power. Or for example, Biden, just like
• 43:59
  literally a month before his tenure stopped, you know,
• 44:02
  increasing all that militarism and that support to Ukraine is
• 44:05
  to almost put obstacles in front of Trump, knowing the
• 44:07
  disposition of Trump to to, for example, withdraw from Syria to
• 44:11
  stop the war in Ukraine. He's not on the same side of the
• 44:14
  deep state. He's changing America from
• 44:15
  within. And the scary part about all of
• 44:17
  this is that Trump has a strong mandate from the people and that
• 44:20
  genuinely the he's got a base that believes in what he says.
• 44:24
  Because also the way that he talks is quite appealing to the
• 44:27
  population. He talks about their issues,
• 44:30
  talks. About the.
• 44:31
  Economic situation, he talks about stopping wars and he and
• 44:35
  he's meaningful when it comes to that.
• 44:36
  I just want to say one quick thing about this specific war in
• 44:39
  my assessment, even like green lighting this war in a way, if
• 44:44
  someone truly cared about Israel, they wouldn't green
• 44:46
  light this war because it's well suiciding right now.
• 44:48
  And this is an important point. So even to me it's an indication
• 44:52
  like allowing Israel to go into this kind of war against this
• 44:55
  Republic of Iran. You can even take of Azza what
• 44:58
  you think you can take off this this kind of population like you
• 45:02
  actually do not understand the mentality of the Iranians when
• 45:05
  Wahidi, who's now the head of the Harris, the IRGC comes out
• 45:08
  and says you started this war, but we will end it.
• 45:11
  Like there's actually no limit to this war, so to speak.
• 45:15
  Like pedestrian might be the diplomatic 1 and come out and
• 45:17
  says when you guys stop your aggression, we'll stop our
• 45:19
  aggression. But Iran will not forget this.
• 45:21
  Iran will never forget the aggression that happened on
• 45:25
  Friday by the Israeli occupation entity and it's proven itself on
• 45:28
  the ground. So if really if America cared
• 45:31
  about Israel, it wouldn't allow it to suicide itself like that.
• 45:35
  So this is almost like let Israel fend for itself and let
• 45:37
  Israel prove itself. That's the way that I see it.
• 45:40
  And even you find those internally within the Israeli
• 45:42
  occupation entity, you find the contradictions are very deep.
• 45:44
  So it's not difficult to imagine Trump butting heads with
• 45:47
  Netanyahu when within Israel they were butting heads,
• 45:49
  basically. No, just on this point you.
• 45:51
  Mentioned you call to the IRGC and you said where they said
• 45:56
  there is no limit to this, we will end it.
• 45:59
  What does that mean? How do we understand that to how
• 46:02
  far with Iran go in this war? Is it going to remain a tit for
• 46:06
  tat? You attack our military
• 46:07
  sensitive sites, We attack your military sensitive sites or
• 46:10
  would they go further beyond? And I also want to act add in
• 46:13
  addition to this question, is that the the resistance axis,
• 46:18
  like we saw, for example, when it came to Hezbollah, got
• 46:21
  involved. The Lebanese resistance, we saw
• 46:24
  when it came to Syria many, many years ago, when Iran was
• 46:30
  involved, Hezbollah came and got involved.
• 46:34
  Now the resistors axis, are they going to come and stand and
• 46:38
  support Iran when it comes to confronting this aggression by
• 46:41
  Israel? Yeah, it is.
• 46:43
  To what? Limit would they go as it?
• 46:44
  Is it going to remain? It's a real question people ask.
• 46:47
  To what extent is Iran going to defend itself?
• 46:50
  What is it going to take to stop Israel from occupying Palestine?
• 46:54
  Because if Iran says we will stand against the oppression of
• 46:59
  Palestinians until there's a free Palestine, what does that
• 47:02
  mean? How do we understand that?
• 47:04
  Again, it's the same. Iran that says that the Israeli
• 47:06
  occupation entity will collapse and Zionism will cease to exist.
• 47:10
  And said Ali Khamenei says it in a way like it's a reality that
• 47:13
  has happened almost it's it's like it's like when said Abbas
• 47:16
  Al Moswi, the former head of the resistance, would say Israel
• 47:19
  Sakath. Israel has fallen.
• 47:21
  He didn't say it will fall. SATA Scott.
• 47:23
  He says sakat. Yeah.
• 47:25
  And it's nullifying its own its own self destruction.
• 47:28
  Exactly. It's.
• 47:29
  A really self defeated, but also it's that same Iran, that same
• 47:33
  Iran that says that is not the Iran that initiated the war and
• 47:36
  it's the Iran that's reacting to the war.
• 47:38
  And when Seth Hassanathullah was asked specifically, like, how
• 47:41
  would the ending of Israel look, you said the settlers will pack
• 47:44
  their bags and leave. I don't imagine there's going to
• 47:47
  be this, you know, like Swedes of like this today.
• 47:51
  By the way, I've seen Forager, for example, sellers packing
• 47:54
  their bags and crazy in a car and flee.
• 47:55
  By the way, they're fleeing too. Yeah, I know the the minister.
• 47:59
  Of transport announced today that they're not allowed.
• 48:02
  Like Israeli citizens are not allowed to evacuate.
• 48:04
  Really. Yeah.
• 48:05
  So. So that was a strong statement
• 48:06
  that she made basically. And then Gorian airport is shut
• 48:10
  as well, but it was obviously shut because it's under eminent
• 48:14
  danger. It's shut indefinitely.
• 48:16
  Actually Haifa port is being struck.
• 48:18
  So as well as technically in a state of besiegement when the
• 48:21
  air and the sea, the two like Iran has 13 countries that
• 48:25
  border it. Compare that with these really
• 48:27
  ugly. Iran is not besieged as well is
• 48:29
  technically besieged and Iran has the ability to inflict that
• 48:31
  level of that harm. So as far as the reality on the
• 48:35
  ground is concerned, that is how the resistance pictures the
• 48:40
  Israeli occupation entity falling and say that also the
• 48:44
  last words he said on his last speech was Netanyahu will take
• 48:48
  the Kayan Ilahafatahawya. He will take it to the to the
• 48:51
  abyss. You don't realize, but this very
• 48:54
  man Netanyahu is killing you. Like if you care about your own
• 48:58
  self preservation, you'll you'll get rid of this man because this
• 49:02
  man is hawkish in his nature. He cares about his interests.
• 49:05
  He cares about elongating the wall so he can stay in power.
• 49:08
  He's self preserving. He's corrupt.
• 49:10
  It's of interest. That's why you, you even had
• 49:12
  someone like Gallant, who was his war minister, who he deposed
• 49:17
  and he put cats in power. Gallant told him last year,
• 49:20
  don't even go into Lebanon. That's too.
• 49:22
  That's too much of A. Imagine trying.
• 49:25
  Iran, the head of all of this, Like, what are you?
• 49:29
  You don't know who you're messing with.
• 49:31
  I think that's that's the key point.
• 49:32
  You don't know who you're messing with when you say you
• 49:35
  don't know who. You're messing with, is it
• 49:36
  because the Iranians are, because they have a certain
• 49:38
  ideology? But both Both.
• 49:41
  I mean, the Iranian temperament in my assessment is worse than
• 49:44
  even the Yemeni temperament. The Yemenis are quite like,
• 49:50
  they're quite hot temp, like they want to do things quickly
• 49:53
  and decisively. And it's like we'll strike
• 49:54
  missiles with missiles. That's like the very Husseini
• 49:57
  approach, right? But it's more difficult to have
• 50:01
  to play the long game. This is the thing can play.
• 50:04
  They can play the long game. And obviously we've seen the the
• 50:06
  one thing which is ambiguous about Iran now is there's no
• 50:09
  clear cut evidence or proof as to how many missiles they have,
• 50:14
  how many have been produced. Some say thousands, some say
• 50:16
  10s, if not hundreds of thousands of missiles within
• 50:19
  Iran. And obviously we're seeing them
• 50:21
  on the mistake in play They're. The first or second biggest
• 50:24
  stockpile of missiles in the world, Yeah, and if I'm.
• 50:26
  Not mistaken as well. They've only they've only
• 50:29
  they've started quite, quite strategically in the sense of
• 50:32
  getting rid of old stock, OK, using it to target areas to
• 50:35
  determine whether though they are key zones using the system.
• 50:39
  The radar system, yeah. And seeing what?
• 50:41
  Can be penetrated and whether there's an area of weakness,
• 50:43
  which then they can use hypersonic missiles or whatever
• 50:45
  it might be to attack with. And of course, we discussed this
• 50:48
  purely from an analytical and, you know, talking about the
• 50:52
  military capabilities. But I do think it's interesting
• 50:56
  because they're they're playing it, as you said, like they're
• 50:58
  getting ready for the long game. They're getting ready for the
• 51:01
  long war. They're being very, there's a
• 51:04
  word in Ordo, which is probably not useful, but they're being, I
• 51:09
  don't want to say stingy. Maybe what's the word I'm
• 51:13
  looking for? I don't know.
• 51:14
  They're being careful with, you know, resourceful, one could say
• 51:18
  with the way they use their munitions.
• 51:20
  Also manufacturing in the. Meantime, I add, like your mom
• 51:23
  has the expertise, like right now as we're talking, they are
• 51:26
  producing more and more and more and they have the ability and
• 51:28
  they have the modus operandi and they have, they can do that on
• 51:31
  mass like Russia and it's war with Ukraine relied on Iranian
• 51:35
  drones. It's like they put their
• 51:37
  conventional weapons on the side and they said we need those
• 51:39
  quick effective ones that can deter and that can strike with
• 51:42
  precision and has the ability to execute in that kind of way.
• 51:46
  What I do think is 1. Thing I do want to can I know
• 51:48
  we're coming towards the end I do want to talk about the wider
• 51:52
  picture of Islam of of the the Sunni Shia divide in this and
• 51:57
  also kind of the position of Muslim mean and what Manin
• 52:00
  firstly and a couple of messages for my brother's sisters home.
• 52:03
  Firstly Shia Muslims at home, Shia Muslims around the world
• 52:07
  keep your DAR positive keep praying for the whole of the
• 52:10
  awaited Imam Ajallahu da Alavaruddin Sharif because
• 52:13
  obviously we await his arrival, his perfect system of justice
• 52:17
  and his a vengeance for the death of his grandfather ABBA
• 52:21
  Abdullah Hussain in Salaam, whose days we are entering now.
• 52:24
  And if you don't know about this and you're listening to after
• 52:27
  mocking him for the first time and you're listening to this
• 52:28
  fantastic discussion with an incredible guest, then go out
• 52:32
  and research about Imam Al Hussain.
• 52:34
  Imam Hussain who died in the year 61 age in the battle of
• 52:37
  Karbala. Make sure you hear this because
• 52:38
  if we have a principle of justice, and if you keep hearing
• 52:42
  the Iranians in their conversations talk about this,
• 52:44
  I'm saying go and research who that is because I think that
• 52:46
  will guide you towards understanding what their
• 52:48
  principle of justice is, or at least what they, you know, claim
• 52:52
  to be guided by. Secondly, a message to all of
• 52:56
  the haters, OK, the snakes and the spineless backstabbers on
• 53:01
  social media, especially those who are out there in the
• 53:04
  comments saying, oh, the Shia and the Jew are killing each
• 53:07
  other. Yeah, bro, shut up.
• 53:09
  We don't want to hear you. We don't want to see your
• 53:11
  comments anymore, OK? Especially when your states,
• 53:14
  your scholars have been out there and they've done nothing
• 53:18
  but, you know, fuel the fire and support the aggressor, the
• 53:21
  oppressor. You have no position here,
• 53:24
  honestly, and especially when if you stand for nothing, you will
• 53:28
  kneel to anything. And I mean that.
• 53:30
  And we've seen what the Quran, what the Ruyad say about people
• 53:33
  like you in the records of history.
• 53:35
  We've seen how Allah speaks about people like this in
• 53:38
  history, that these are the people, they don't know who
• 53:40
  they're dealing with. You know, we are the sons of
• 53:42
  Aliyam, Nabi, Talib Ali Salam, the inheritors of Karbala.
• 53:45
  This is what we do. Do you see what I mean?
• 53:48
  This is something which is built in us from birth.
• 53:51
  We are Hosseini by our nature and when we need to be, we will
• 53:55
  be Sajadi by our nature. You know, we will be Hassani by
• 53:59
  our nature and we know how to play the game.
• 54:00
  I'm sorry. They're both.
• 54:03
  They're both martyred and this is.
• 54:04
  Something which we are taught from birth, understanding
• 54:07
  activism in this different form. They weren't soft.
• 54:10
  They. Weren't soft.
• 54:10
  They were. Activists, whether they were
• 54:12
  activists with the sword at all times or not, but something
• 54:15
  which we've been raised with, something which we learn by is
• 54:18
  that you never let the oppressed feel alone.
• 54:21
  You never ever let that happen. And that's something which we
• 54:23
  believe in passionately, unlike those who covertly and overtly
• 54:27
  are supporting the Zionist entity in what they're doing.
• 54:30
  They're housing air bases. They're they're funnelling funds
• 54:33
  towards investment in into their Greater Israel project.
• 54:37
  These guys stand for nothing. And the Madhali scholars out
• 54:39
  there who say that there's no harm, there's no harm in
• 54:43
  supporting this entity or there's no harm in sipping my
• 54:46
  Starbucks coffee. Bro, shut up.
• 54:48
  Honestly, I don't hear these guys anymore.
• 54:50
  It's been 2 years nearly since the start of this genocide in in
• 54:53
  Palestine and we're still seeing these guys in High High Park
• 54:55
  Corner and all of these places making noise on social media.
• 54:58
  Are they on the front? Pages.
• 55:00
  No. Quite frankly, you turn the
• 55:01
  front page right now, but it's not Google.
• 55:03
  You'll see, said Ali. Harm in his face.
• 55:05
  You'll see the head of the the Those are the people shaping,
• 55:08
  not just the region. But the world.
• 55:10
  These Madhalis and what have you, you've given them too much
• 55:13
  credit. But even mentally I agree.
• 55:14
  But it's just. It's so relevant.
• 55:15
  Well, a lot. Of them it's.
• 55:16
  Frustrating when you imagine the fact that you have, you know, if
• 55:19
  the Arab world theoretically forget even the wider Muslim
• 55:22
  world, if the Arab world came together, 500 million people
• 55:25
  united in in diplomacy, lighted in the United military and
• 55:29
  strategy and spirituality. What force could that be?
• 55:31
  And This is why there's a divine and conquer system in place,
• 55:34
  because they know that this is a force that could not be reckoned
• 55:37
  with had it come together, had the people, had the Muslim mean
• 55:40
  the mini in all these different states.
• 55:42
  And don't get me wrong, the majority of assassin or Jamal
• 55:44
  have been incredible, I think in the cause and the fight and
• 55:46
  justice. But I'm specifically talking
• 55:49
  about these Gulf nations and those who are supporting them,
• 55:51
  the scholars who are funding that, the Wahhabi ideology which
• 55:53
  props that and the West is behind.
• 55:55
  All of that. I think that's the key over
• 55:58
  here, Like how the West, even when you look at Wahhabism as an
• 56:01
  ideology to protect Alisar Odd is designed in in this way
• 56:05
  because Alisar Odd is relevant to the British.
• 56:09
  Have you been? Following Daniel, have you seen
• 56:12
  any of his work recently? He's been doing since with the.
• 56:16
  He's finished like he's have you.
• 56:17
  Seen his stuff? He's crack.
• 56:19
  Like, you know, he's actually looking for the truth.
• 56:22
  Yeah, he is, and I rate. That about him, you know, and I,
• 56:24
  you know, like I kind of want to shut him out.
• 56:26
  Was taking many with him on a journey.
• 56:28
  He has, and I think he. Himself is on a journey compared
• 56:30
  to where he was a few years ago and he did a 3 1/2 hour
• 56:32
  documentary on Wahhabism. And I think if I'm not mistaken,
• 56:35
  he's doing more coming out. And he kind of tackled it from
• 56:37
  the point of the scholarly books, the books of the, the,
• 56:40
  the early scholars of Salafism. And it looks at Esta Gratha and
• 56:44
  all of these different things. And, and he's linked it now to
• 56:47
  modern day Salafism and how you have kind of two bands within it
• 56:50
  from his assessment. And you've got the Madkali
• 56:52
  groups and then you've got the, the, the Wahhabi groups and so
• 56:55
  on and so forth. And I think that's, you know,
• 56:58
  just I wanted to ask people at home, go and check that out.
• 57:00
  It's worth watching. Very interesting documentary
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  from one of our Sony brothers. And obviously we take everything
• 57:05
  with a pinch of salt, but it's it's interesting to understand
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  that even within different groups, there's infighting.
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  Obviously we don't believe in this.
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  We believe that we should stand with our brothers.
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  Middlemont minions says your brothers and faith are equal in
• 57:16
  humanity. I know say this is something we
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  talk about a lot. We do, and I.
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  Think many share the frustrations you've shared now
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  in the last few minutes. And I would go on to add as well
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  that from all of this, from from let's say October 7th onwards, I
• 57:27
  would say in fact, the Muslim world has actually become more
• 57:29
  open. I agree.
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  I feel like people have understood, if I can say it this
• 57:34
  way, that the Shia don't just stand for themselves.
• 57:36
  No, they stand for everyone, right?
• 57:38
  They whether you're, whether you're Sunni, whether you're
• 57:41
  Christian, as long as you know you, you, you want hack, we'll
• 57:45
  embrace you. We will stand for you.
• 57:47
  And we see it. We have to.
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  We have. To principle and I I see it
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  from. This way and you you see you're
• 57:55
  talking about these I don't know people non-stop that comment and
• 57:59
  leave these Shia. I hate if we can say even until,
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  well, I don't bring names, but there's a lot of prominent names
• 58:07
  in in the Sunni world, for example, on Twitter on X who are
• 58:10
  very active when it comes to, for example, saying, for
• 58:13
  example, who's enjoying the fireworks display.
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  Like there's always sarcasm. Even though they know Iran is
• 58:19
  fighting for haka. Iran is standing for haka.
• 58:21
  Iran is, you know, going head to head face to face with with
• 58:24
  Shayan. I would say, yeah, you would you
• 58:27
  because they're Shia. They could they just they just
• 58:30
  can't. But I see the masses of the
• 58:31
  people. I know their opinions are
• 58:33
  changing. I know the, the hearts are
• 58:35
  opening. And I see even like you
• 58:37
  mentioned, certain Gulf countries and things like this
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  and then Arab world in the Middle East.
• 58:41
  This isn't some of those countries, my bro.
• 58:44
  They're coming out on their masses and they're saying we see
• 58:47
  it for what it is. In fact, in fact, we apologize
• 58:51
  and we are ashamed and embarrassed that these are our
• 58:54
  leaders and some of these people are our scholars.
• 58:56
  Like there is this recognition now there is Huckabee's battle.
• 58:59
  It's clear. I, I, I think there is enough
• 59:01
  clarity in the Muslim world just from October 7th and beyond to
• 59:04
  understand where Hak lies. And I would say, as you said,
• 59:07
  you invite them to understand who's Hussein is, I'll invite
• 59:10
  you to understand what happens. Ali, Omar Hakwal, Hakumar Ali.
• 59:14
  And I think even like I would say, you know, in the very
• 59:17
  beginning I was like, this means a lot to me because it brings it
• 59:19
  home as a Shiite Muslim when it comes to Iran.
• 59:25
  I from my perspective, it represents the Shia world
• 59:28
  politically, militarily, even in terms of our stances, the most
• 59:32
  basic things such as Hey, Hartman nadila, these are things
• 59:34
  we all align with. These are our values.
• 59:36
  We share these principles, we share all of this, right?
• 59:40
  But there is something unique when it comes to the Shia world.
• 59:43
  It's like you're not just I, I, I would say you have God behind
• 59:47
  you. Rasoolallah prayed for you.
• 59:49
  When Rasoolallah lifted the hands of a mere Al Mamminian on
• 59:52
  the Ghadir and he said Mankhuntu Mahallah, Father Ali Mahallah,
• 59:55
  he made he said Allahu Mawali Manwala to add even other one
• 59:59
  Solomon Nasser that to give aid and victory to those who aid and
• 1:00:03
  support. I live in a bit.
• 1:00:04
  I live come to your own understand that there is a
• 1:00:08
  greater picture. It's not about country, it's not
• 1:00:10
  about borders. It goes far beyond like this is
• 1:00:13
  a resistance against Shayatan. Ultimately at the end of the
• 1:00:17
  day, Israel Shaytan who are who are the leaders of Israel.
• 1:00:20
  They're a bunch of thugs in suits.
• 1:00:22
  You know they're I need they're nothing if you see them for what
• 1:00:25
  they are. Don't be afraid of them.
• 1:00:27
  Stand up to them. It's, it's, it's, it's taken a
• 1:00:29
  long journey even for myself to understand this whole thing.
• 1:00:32
  Like I, I remember we had the previous conversation, I said
• 1:00:34
  this is something so new to me that it, it had to take October
• 1:00:38
  7th for me to understand the greater picture of what's
• 1:00:41
  happening behind the scenes when it comes to Zionism and you
• 1:00:44
  know, the Western world, how they push in the narrative
• 1:00:46
  around the world. We just need to be careful.
• 1:00:49
  Can I and understand it more? Can I ask sister?
• 1:00:51
  I think a beautiful point said, but just on what the said said
• 1:00:54
  in terms of like a mentality shift in education kind of as a
• 1:00:57
  final point for people at home, what would you advise in terms
• 1:01:00
  of strong and reliable resources to read into, OK, both
• 1:01:04
  historical and kind of contemporary?
• 1:01:06
  Where can I look to for my day-to-day news where I know I'm
• 1:01:08
  getting unfiltered realistic truth?
• 1:01:12
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Subscribe. And secondly, any message of
• 1:01:17
  hope or anything that you want to advise to people at home.
• 1:01:19
  Sure. On the question about like the
• 1:01:22
  whole shit, suddenly I would just implore people to really
• 1:01:25
  understand what Muhammadi Islam was literally like.
• 1:01:28
  Look at the Serie of the Prophet and understand and understand
• 1:01:32
  what Mecca was like and understand what Medina was like.
• 1:01:35
  And then you'll see that the silent Republic and the
• 1:01:37
  besiegement and the sanctioning that it's going through is a
• 1:01:39
  prototype of that. It's like it's, it's, it's going
• 1:01:42
  through the same journey that the Prophet himself went through
• 1:01:44
  when he established Medina, an Islamic government there.
• 1:01:47
  That's really important because for me, it's not a matter of
• 1:01:50
  Shia, Sunni. You can have a passive version
• 1:01:52
  of Shiism or you could have a version of Sunnism that is a
• 1:01:56
  genuine threat. But if it understands the more
• 1:01:59
  the Muhammadi Islam. So someone like say that how
• 1:02:02
  many I remember I was reading how he was actually inspired by
• 1:02:06
  Hassan Denna, who was the head of the Muslim Brotherhood at the
• 1:02:08
  time due to the strong foundational ideology that he
• 1:02:13
  had of an Islam that was transformational, an Islam that
• 1:02:16
  didn't just hide in people's homes, but an Islam that was in
• 1:02:18
  power. Whether you agree with that
• 1:02:20
  model or that system of I don't know.
• 1:02:22
  For example, it's the idea that Islam is infiltrated in the
• 1:02:27
  public sphere. Islam has a say.
• 1:02:29
  Islam does not allow the arrogant powers to and and and
• 1:02:33
  we were talking at a time before we were talking about time, the
• 1:02:36
  Barfel declaration in the 20s. That's when hasn't been there
• 1:02:38
  was was was prominent and even someone like say it's cut up,
• 1:02:41
  for example, and and his works on the establishment of an
• 1:02:45
  Islamic government was you know, instead.
• 1:02:46
  I like how many is prison cell who'd read those kinds of books.
• 1:02:49
  This was prior to the revolution.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah exactly. So for them, if you had a
• 1:02:54
  brotherhood, if if it wasn't the Islamic Republic of Iran, if it
• 1:02:57
  wasn't ACA entity that was in power, if it wasn't a
• 1:02:59
  brotherhood in power that was doing the same actions as Iran,
• 1:03:01
  that would become the problematic issue.
• 1:03:04
  It's are you again, it's the same modus operandi of are you
• 1:03:07
  resisting or are you capitulating?
• 1:03:09
  You know that's it. But obviously over here we're
• 1:03:11
  talking about that Husseini spirit.
• 1:03:13
  He had Minadilla be the foundational basis, the
• 1:03:15
  constitution for the revolution, which is what makes it so unique
• 1:03:20
  in that sense. That's the first part.
• 1:03:22
  The second part, I think you asked, well, what are the
• 1:03:24
  resources if. You're asking in terms of.
• 1:03:26
  News, there's good news outlets that exist that relay
• 1:03:31
  information if you're interested in the region of West Asia and
• 1:03:36
  you can add some of course, and you as well.
• 1:03:38
  So you've got like the cradle, for example.
• 1:03:40
  It's it's it's a really good outlet when it comes to
• 1:03:43
  analytical posts specifically on like Palestine resistance.
• 1:03:46
  You have resistance news network, which is really good to
• 1:03:48
  follow. It'll give you like the updates
• 1:03:50
  as they come. You have other outlets like El
• 1:03:53
  Maya Dean also. So those are English speaking.
• 1:03:56
  You have really good podcasts that, for example, I listen to
• 1:04:01
  where I hear like top CIA analysts.
• 1:04:05
  Maybe not. CIA so if I was.
• 1:04:08
  Talking about like proper politics, like politics
• 1:04:11
  podcasts. I was gonna get, yeah, yeah, I
• 1:04:14
  know what I mean, proper. So there's like dialogues works.
• 1:04:19
  That's one that I will shout out.
• 1:04:20
  I listen to them every single day.
• 1:04:22
  They've got someone. Dialogue works.
• 1:04:24
  Dialogue works. It's hosted by an Iranian called
• 1:04:27
  Nima Hoshid. He brings like Larry Johnson,
• 1:04:32
  Colonel Wilkinson, Chast Freeman, Alex Craner, like he's
• 1:04:36
  talking about like people that were like, one of them was like
• 1:04:40
  the Secretary of State at the time of the first British
• 1:04:43
  administration. You're talking about market
• 1:04:46
  analysts, those who are in the like heat of the thing, they'll
• 1:04:53
  bring you the meat. Like they'll tell you like my
• 1:04:54
  insider sources say X&Y. So they're worth following if
• 1:04:58
  you're like interested in the meat press is really good.
• 1:05:01
  Double down news. Yeah, double down news is good.
• 1:05:03
  There's a few. Apolitical as an A slash
• 1:05:07
  political they, which is Matt Kennard does this who came to
• 1:05:10
  our venue does this. He does frequent podcasts with
• 1:05:14
  with those who align and those who've strongly strongly,
• 1:05:17
  strongly disagree with him and he challenges them for like a
• 1:05:19
  good hour and that's really worth watching as well.
• 1:05:21
  Danny Hayfong is also. Really good.
• 1:05:23
  He also he also like interviews similar individuals.
• 1:05:27
  I think once you click on YouTube, yeah.
• 1:05:29
  Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, I think once.
• 1:05:31
  Once. Once.
• 1:05:32
  You click on one of them, you'll kind of get a spiral of.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah, yeah, or, or like just. For me, it's like I kind of look
• 1:05:38
  at the guests. If I feel like the guests have
• 1:05:39
  strong and powerful ideas, I kind of latch onto them and I
• 1:05:41
  just search their name and like, I just binge watch their videos
• 1:05:43
  because I'm like, they get it. Like you can kind of tell when
• 1:05:46
  someone gets it. So that's as far as politics is
• 1:05:48
  concerned, Yeah. And just understand that this is
• 1:05:54
  a war of morale and it's really important that we get the truth
• 1:05:57
  out to everyone and that we all play a role in this jihad to be
• 1:06:00
  in. This is actually a fatwa said I
• 1:06:02
  haven't he was like it's worship to take part in this
• 1:06:06
  mobilization or Tabia for to being and clarifying the truth
• 1:06:10
  because the destiny of nations rely on it like look at the
• 1:06:13
  situation in Syria like the toppling of Syria and the HTS.
• 1:06:17
  I'm sorry rats coming into power.
• 1:06:19
  That's that's what I'll call them was in no small part due to
• 1:06:22
  the ignorance of the sleeping Oma.
• 1:06:25
  I argue yeah, and never to. Underestimate the power of
• 1:06:28
  daughter. Ever, ever.
• 1:06:30
  The matter for the Quran of the Alabama and the promises of God.
• 1:06:34
  Yeah, yeah. This is all a lot, a lot of it
• 1:06:36
  falls in line with what we what we read in the way art, the
• 1:06:40
  times of the hall, many of the signs.
• 1:06:43
  And of course, without trying to to get too much into that, but
• 1:06:46
  you know, these things are expected.
• 1:06:48
  We pray that we can only, if anything, be a part of those who
• 1:06:51
  stand up for the right 'cause the cause of the last Palms
• 1:06:54
  Island. You know who's chosen Imam and.
• 1:06:57
  If I can just ask 11 last brief thing is that because I think
• 1:07:01
  there's been a lot of clarity from your from your end and for
• 1:07:04
  me and myself. But there there could be someone
• 1:07:06
  listening now who for any reason hates Iran or for any reason
• 1:07:12
  doesn't understand what's happening between Palestine and
• 1:07:17
  the occupied Palestine, which is the state of Israel.
• 1:07:20
  Like they're really confused. They, they're not even Muslim.
• 1:07:24
  They say we want everyone to have peace.
• 1:07:26
  They say we want, for example, the Israelis to live in peace.
• 1:07:30
  And the Palestinians, they're confused.
• 1:07:32
  They don't know what the truth is.
• 1:07:33
  They don't know, they don't know Islam.
• 1:07:35
  They don't know Imam Hussein, They don't they don't know who
• 1:07:37
  Amira no maninas. They don't know the stances,
• 1:07:38
  they don't know the laws of Allah.
• 1:07:40
  They don't know nothing. What would you say to a
• 1:07:42
  non-muslim to give them clarity on what's happening now,
• 1:07:45
  especially now that it's extended to Iran?
• 1:07:47
  This war that started in and we see them marching.
• 1:07:51
  They want freedom, they want justice, they they want
• 1:07:53
  oppression to end. But now they see Iran and
• 1:07:55
  they've lived this last 40 years of hearing on the news.
• 1:07:59
  Iran is X, Iran is Y, Iran is Z. This is something new to them.
• 1:08:04
  How would you tell them to clarify some of the
• 1:08:07
  misconceptions, even just one, just to give them clarity.
• 1:08:12
  It's a really good. Question Oh my God, do you know
• 1:08:15
  what this is going to sound unconventional, but I think
• 1:08:18
  studying the Quran in these times so powerful.
• 1:08:22
  I remember that was my dad told me the story once a group of
• 1:08:25
  Algerians, they actually became Shias once they read an ayah
• 1:08:29
  from the Quran that said something about those who like
• 1:08:32
  the the mutmaneen are the ones who are in the greatest state of
• 1:08:36
  Adawa to their horde, which translates to Benny Israel,
• 1:08:40
  which translates to the Sahuani movement today by extrapolation.
• 1:08:44
  And they said that if that means like, and then they looked at
• 1:08:48
  that and they said, so who is the greatest ado to the Yehud or
• 1:08:53
  let's say the Zionists? And they looked and they saw the
• 1:08:56
  statements of someone like Netanyahu saying Iran, whatever
• 1:09:00
  that is. I want basically like that's the
• 1:09:02
  one that has an open mind, an open heart.
• 1:09:07
  A lot from the Quran can be extrapolated to what's happening
• 1:09:09
  in the political world today. And it's relevant like Islam has
• 1:09:12
  become indefinitely relevant and we are indebted in no small part
• 1:09:17
  due to the blood of Azza and due to the sacrifices that's given
• 1:09:19
  on the ground. And ultimately the time heed of
• 1:09:21
  the hedge is happening right before us, especially in this
• 1:09:24
  region. And we have to always see it
• 1:09:25
  from, I think that perspective as well, so.
• 1:09:28
  Thank you so much for everything.
• 1:09:29
  You are a thorn in the side of the oppressors and long may
• 1:09:32
  continue inshallah. And thank you so much and thank
• 1:09:36
  you everyone. If you are still with us for
• 1:09:38
  tuning into aftermarket. But we are going to be kind of
• 1:09:42
  cracking on with from next week getting into the Muharram
• 1:09:46
  season. If I'm going to be very honest
• 1:09:48
  with you guys, by the time the next week episode comes out,
• 1:09:50
  we've actually already recorded next week's episode in a
• 1:09:53
  previous week. So we didn't actually make a
• 1:09:55
  reference to the to this conversation in the forthcoming
• 1:09:58
  podcast, if that makes sense before we get the comments which
• 1:10:01
  slate us. But yeah, listen, continue the
• 1:10:04
  fight, continue your research, education, and of course, raise
• 1:10:07
  your hands towards the skies and pray for the horde of the Imam.
• 1:10:11
  Ajallah to Aydafandra Sharif. And yeah, Charlotte, we will be
• 1:10:15
  back next week with another fantastic conversation.
• 1:10:17
  Thank you so much, Sister Batoul.
• 1:10:19
  Thank you very much at home. Thank you, Zain Ali.
• 1:10:21
  Take care. Samuel Alaikum.