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Utes vs BYU importants, Ace for 6-MAN, MLB impact Jazz, PCA for MVP over Ohtani? · DnA Sports Recap

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  SPEAKER_01: It was one time, Darren.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, if it was only one time.
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  SPEAKER_01: If it was only one time, maybe it was only once.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: I gave you I gave you a walk away on that one.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just said ish.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't do anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just kind of gave it an ish to, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna start with our first subject of the day, which is something I think we need to start talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've had a lot of conversation this week, and this not this week, but a lot of conversation around a bunch of players on this team, AJ.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're starting to see a lot of folks actually focusing this week on a player that we'd like to highlight this week, which is our guy, Ace Bailey.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our top, what, top three pick that slid to number seven?
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  SPEAKER_00: Five.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, five.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was five last year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I was just so used to that number two pick.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just don't remember how that were the ones.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: Seems years ago, man.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Years ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, Ace Bailey's been seen working out with KD, getting uh stepping up his game on those burner accounts, uh, as well as uh some time with Dwayne Wade.
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  SPEAKER_00: Put in the work this summer, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: You love to see it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh with the addition of Darren Williams.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Darren Williams.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, Darren Williams is back.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: He's been he's been in the press a lot lately.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you been taught?
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you been seeing him?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: I have seen it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's back on the jazz, though.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's yeah, but he's uh he was in our drive, he was in our war room when we drafted Darren Peterson.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: I saw that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was super cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um but anyway, so we've with the addition of Darren Peterson and Keontae George uh breaking out last year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Utah's second year player, Ace Bailey, finds himself in a very interesting situation on the bench, AJ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh now we here at Utah Jazz DNA always want our best players to remain healthy and play their best, perform all to what they can, and we hope that both KG3 and DP play healthy and don't suck at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh so that means Ace is going to be coming off the bench.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, with that said, uh AJ, that's gonna be his best option.
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  SPEAKER_00: The best place for him to show that he's succeeding in that role is six man of the year.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the best way you can succeed is in that role.
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  SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts on a potential of um our boy Ace becoming sixth man of the year?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, you when you pull up like the last the the sixth man of the year statistics, like over the last couple of seasons.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got those for us here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we've got 2025 to 2026.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have Keldon Johnson from the San Antonio Spurs.
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  SPEAKER_00: He averaged 13.2 points per game, 5.4 rebounds, 1.4 assists, and shot 51% from the field.
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  SPEAKER_00: The year before him was uh uh Peyton Pritchard from the Boston Celtics.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was 14.3 uh points per game, three rebounds, almost four rebounds, three and a half assists, and 42% from the field.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then my favorite player on this last day, Nas Reed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nas Reed from the Timberwolves won six man of the year in 2023 to 2024 season, averaging 13.5 points per game, 5.2 rebounds, 1.2 assists, and uh just under a block game, shot shooting 47% from the field.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, based on based on those statistics purely, last three, four winners, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's absolutely possible.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if we can get Ace to write about that 15 points per game range, I think he's gotta increase his three-pointing percentage.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was pretty low, I think in like the 33, 34 percent range.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um that'll help his scoring average, gotta be right in that 15 points, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: The all the players you just said were right in the 13-14.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think if he gets up to 15 points, he's he's right in the running.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, we are gonna need him to get a little better as a rebounder, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: He's we gotta probably get him up to about five.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, we actually did a whole nother video on where the Jazz are gonna be rebounding.
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  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you guys check that video out.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll put the link up there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but his average right now is just above four.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think his assist number will climb.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, he's obviously gonna get a lot more minutes playing with guys that can actually shoot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and he's just he's just done a great job kind of drawing extra defenders, and he's he's shown pretty good vision on the floor while he's out there to you know find an open shooter.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think that'll help his assist numbers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, like you mentioned earlier, you if you've been following Ace on social media this year, you can see how much work he's been putting in this year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like this offseason has been he's trying to grow, he wants to be that guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's been soaking it up from you know some of the NBA greats, you know, previous and current.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he's got a shot to be right in the running, to be NBA sixth man of the year.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like it, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So did you see his projected stats for next year?
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  SPEAKER_00: I did not.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Ace Bailey's projected stats for the 2026-2027 season are 15.5 points per game, 4.75 rebounds, two assists, and the only stat that I see as being negative is the 45% field goal percentage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's by ESPN.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the stats are pretty similar on NBA.com for his projected uh stats for next season.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I think these are all great baseline stats.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, his points are gonna be higher at 15.5, so you love to see that.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's gonna be higher on points.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, he is gonna be again below.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually went through the top 10, and there's actually only two players that won six man of the year awards that actually had below 45.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um not the best, so we'll have to see that efficiency go up a little bit.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and again, this is just projection.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I think if he's putting up 15.5 points, his four field goal percentage isn't gonna be that low.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because just again, that's just the amount of touches that are gonna be there for him, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so honestly, I think he's got the great uh position to be in that.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I do think he he does have the ability to contribute to that level.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I look forward to seeing, you know, again, obviously we we want to see him succeed in that role because again, that means if he's not in the starting role, that means something bad went, something bad happened.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we want to have uh the best chance for this team to succeed is him coming off the bench as sixth man.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the most important thing we could say here, right?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, is we need Ace to be the sixth man because that means everybody's healthy, everybody's good, especially those two key players and you know, Darren Peterson and Keontae George, if those guys can keep healthy, you know, we want one of those guys to be the first guy off the bench.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's important to the Jazz this year to get Ace in there in that two, three guard, however you want to slot it, and you know, really help this team score the basketball when one of those guys come off the floor.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or unless, you know, some other you know, folks who have shows on YouTube about the Utah Jazz, and the only other way we can have that in is if they they get what they want, and that's Larry marketing getting traded sometime, uh, which uh we are firmly against on this channel.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: We've gone pretty wholeheartedly on that one.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, I'm not I'm not putting the Larry trade off the table in two or three seasons.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: But this season, I'm not absolutely not.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not taking it off the table even by the end of this year, right?
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: If there's been some obviously, if if the chemistry doesn't work, if there's just a whole bunch of defensive holes, even though this team is very large, right?
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, if if there's a whole bunch of defensive holes that we need to swap him out for somebody that's a lot more defensively minded, um, you know, and then bring in Ace Bailey as that three spot, then that makes sense.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: But this year, I think it would be absolutely ridiculous to trade him this year, yeah, in my opinion.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm totally with you.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you folks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what are your thoughts regarding Ace Bailey?
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, do you think he's going to be predominantly coming off the bench?
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you see him in a starting role at any point this year?
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there might be some times where we see that, uh, just simply because of, you know.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe matchups, yeah.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, also, and you gotta think about Darren Peterson, you know, he didn't play even a full college season last year, you know.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, there might be some rest that's gonna be necessary.
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  SPEAKER_01: I also think the rookie wall is real, you know.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think he can come out and play 30-40 games and probably look great.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, an NBA season is long, dude.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's where you're really gonna enjoy the depth.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you can you can bring in Ace starting off that role, keep his minutes low, even if you want to give him the day off, you got Bryce Sensaba that can come in and fill some serviceable minutes there.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh in that position.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I love the depth.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a good good option either way.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think Ace is gonna have his chance to sign.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: And again, what's the most important uh quote that you've ever heard from uh Coach Sloan?
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's not about who's starting, it's about who's finishing.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what we want to see.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, absolutely.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: And we could see Ace out there finishing, man.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no doubt about it.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: All right, let's go ahead and get into our next subject here, AJ.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: And man, this is uh I gotta just say, man, we're in the dog days of August, AJ.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um you don't say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: Dog days of August, man, and the talking points around the uh Utah Jazz are starting to get a little thin.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and at least until fall camp opens up anyway.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh when we start to see things pick up, we'll start having more subjects to talk about.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: But uh one subject that has been suggested by one of our subscribers, and again, folks, jump in the comments, jump into the chat.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: If there's a subject that you want us to cover uh, you know, between now and and tip off, we'd love to hear from you so we can um you know put these episodes out the way you guys want to hear it.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we got a great question for one of our uh subscribers, and that was how is MLB expansion gonna impact the Utah Jazz if they land a team?
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's a great question, right?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's a great question.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: I have thoughts on this, AJ.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: I have thoughts.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm ready.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: So let's start with the chance that the Utah Jazz, that Utah actually gets a team, right?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it was announced the if they made an announcement today, and we are one of the top two cities to get it, right?
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: There's obviously Memphis that's gonna get the team, but we're gonna be the team out west uh to get it, get a team.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: We're in the top two of potentials.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: We have the most state money available, we have a shovel ready site, um, and we also have the ownership group committing billions, more money than anybody else to that project.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, the only issue that we're running into, AJ, is going to be a lockout.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: If we lose games, maybe a lot of games, we are putting ourselves in a position where the league is going to lose revenue and also lose fan engagement for several years.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: This might push back uh the ability for us to have an expansion in Major League Baseball.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: And but other than that, man, I think we're pretty safe.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean, and other other threats like um, you know, in the NHL experiment, you know, if that one doesn't work out, that might throw a wrench into this, you know, just look what happened with Phoenix back in the day and you know, us running into a similar issue, that could also be a possibility.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: But let's just say it all works out and in 2031 uh we have a baseball team in Salt Lake City, right?
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: How do we see that impacting the Utah Jazz?
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, first of all, how awesome would it be to have baseball here, right?
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like I as long as it's American Lee T.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, the the thought of having like I can't wait to have like a homestand and you know show up for a few ball games in a week.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be so great.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Just be out in the stands and hanging out.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, as far as the effect on jazz fans, I think you have pretty separate fan bases.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you got you got jazz fans who are just so passionate.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I think you could see a lot of people show up to a baseball game kind of early in the day and then you know attend a jazz game in the evening because the thought of that just sounds so good to me.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like two professional sports in the same day.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: We just you know, with the two current teams.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but baseball games aren't crazy, right?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Especially a local like been to a bees game.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Bees game is that's that's a good point.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: That is a good point.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I've gone to MLB games for cheaper than bees games, so but I I think the the the fun part is is like we haven't been able to go to two games because they play in the same arena.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you can't there's not like they're gonna have a hockey game in the morning and a basketball game at night.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: So the the thought of having two professional sports games in the same day, you know, sounds awesome.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess knowing that's how I feel, you know what I mean, is just as just a professional sports fan, I know there's gonna be kind of a lot of people that feel the same way.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I think I think the toughest part for some of these baseball fans is gonna be, you know, cheering for your current team and still trying to be a Utah baseball fan, but um I just I think these are problems we all want to have.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: True, true, true.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I get it, man.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: I totally get where you're coming from.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's gonna, I don't think MLB would impact the Utah Jazz at all for several reasons.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, um, you know, it complements way better than an NHL team does.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: The seasons aren't exactly the same time, they're at different times of the year when the NBA is in playoff mode, baseball season's barely starting, right?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're just getting out of spring training, the first 20 games are coming in, you know, and you're still seeing some of the, you know, so it's not necessarily issues there.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: And if the team from Utah in baseball makes it to the playoffs, well, again, the jazz season just started, you know, so there's not gonna be a whole lot of overlap there.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, again, uh there's going to be comparisons uh to what's happened in Phoenix versus what happened here since you know we did steal their hockey team.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh happens.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, folks in Phoenix.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: And there was a lot of people who already said that both with issues with the Diamondbacks and the Suns both having disputes over funding for their arenas, uh, which is usually a prerequisite for people wanting to move their franchise.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think people are looking at that and seeing it draw parallels with Utah.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the thing is, as long as we can make uh if we can make hockey and the NBA work together in the same arena, I think if we throw in Major League Baseball at a different time of year in a completely different arena and actually have this amount of support that we've had, we've had good support for baseball here at a triple A level, even down to the to the rookie ball level.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: So shout out to uh to my Salt League Trapper fans out there, you know.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, do you know that team was owned by Bill Murray?
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: I did not know that.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: So cool, so cool.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so yeah, I think just simply because of that, again, and we already know what the cost and how it's gonna impact the fans.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like I mentioned, if you go to a B's game, you're you are paying more money for that than the majority of Major League Baseball games you're going to.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness, man.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: That game, that stadium is a great place to go watch a ball game.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's not a bad seat in the house, right?
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Unless you need to use the bathroom.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Then you have to go and you're in the upper deck and you're not part of the bar seats, then you have to go all the way downstairs.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: But that's bad.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: That is bad.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: But their seats are cushioned, which is nice.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: But there's really no bad space in there.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: But honestly, yeah, prices are absolutely insane for a minor league ball team out there.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what they're thinking.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, man.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think we're perfectly good there.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think we'll be okay.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we want to hear from you folks.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Do you see if Major League Baseball was to expand, uh, do you see that team uh having any impact on jazz fans, you know, simply being able to want to watch basketball?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't see that happening.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think this town is always gonna be a basketball town first.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and then baseball will probably slate in kind of right after hockey above soccer, probably.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's my guess.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't know.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: I would think so.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got uh comment here from Kamari Alt.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Calamari Atari.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Calamari Atari, perfect.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh let's go ace.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, man.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a good year for him, man.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really looking forward to it.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's you know, it's got out of that rookie, you know, rookie year.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Spent a lot of time uh in the offseason.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna it's gonna be exciting.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: Got a comment here uh from Sydney Macklreath.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Macklreef.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: What up, guys?
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: What up?
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh thanks for joining.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for coming in the chat for sure.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, so again, just a lot of good stuff coming from the Utah Jazz.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Again, folks, if you're watching this on our live stream, we uh and if you're watching this on uh the show after the fact on Utah Jazz DNA.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Jump in the comments, let us know what subjects you'd like us to cover uh during this off season while we're waiting for fall camp to open up uh for the next upcoming season.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: We want to chat with you.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: We want to know, we want to keep the show relevant for you guys, so let us know what you guys want to talk about.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um now, AJ, before we move on from the Utah Jazz, I do want to bring up something that actually dropped today.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's a little bit of news today.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um it was I have mentioned this several times on this show, AJ, and I will continue to mention it one more time because it was only prevalent to now, but it's now no longer prevalent.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um We talked a lot about how the Dodgers are dominating baseball lately, right?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: So that's something that we get a lot of fans that say, Oh, it's just so annoying.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: The Dodgers are so dominant in baseball since the new ownership came.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I just said, well, just watch out, man, because the Lakers are coming.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: The Dodger owner group that owned the Lakers was bringing in the same front office to revamp how the Lakers ran their show.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: They're bringing in the right scouts, the right nutrition people, the right front office people, the right analytics people.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: You had Andrew Freeman of the Los Angeles Dodgers, the guy who built the Dodgers into the team that they are, sitting in in front office meetings on how to shape the how to shape the Lakers and go through all that process.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: So that team was going to be the Dodgers of the NBA in the next couple of years.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: I hope not.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: But we don't have to worry about that now, do we?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Not at all.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is announced that uh the Dodgers ownership group, uh uh Walters primarily, forget the name.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um correct me in the channel if I'm on in the chat there with a full name there.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but the ownership group that owns the the Walters, I believe, uh that owns the Dodgers and also Chelsea in the English Premier League has officially sold the team.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: They bought it for 10.5 million, 10, 10.5 billion dollars and just sold it for 12.5 billion dollars.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's a pretty good profit, man.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Make a couple bill in eight months.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's insane, dude.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts, man?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Other than the price, obviously, he made a good job.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Why do you think that uh that the uh wall that the Dodgers ownership group decided to sell the Lakers this fast?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's I think it's gotta be, you know, uh probably a whole bunch of things realistically.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's that is a lot of capital to kind of tie up.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and anytime you can make two billion dollars, I think you kind of jump at that opportunity, um, especially if you're an ownership group.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if you've seen the Dodgers payroll lately, they're gonna have to be paying some some of that money out.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: So they're like, oh, we can put two billion in the bank.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that'll pay Shohei Otani for like a half a season.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: So speaking of which, we'll talk about that when we get into baseball.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, uh, I have my thoughts on this one, AJ.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Great video by A.M.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Hoops, by the way.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: So if you get a chance to watch it, he goes into a little bit more detail than this.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: But this is exactly what I thought when I saw this news come down.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think it has anything to do with the whole investigation into, you know, how he was able to buy the team.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: He uh that group owns a lot of insurance companies and they borrowed money from their other companies to buy the Dodgers, I mean, and then to buy the Lakers from, you know, and then it was it was all on the up and up, right?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: They even had it like approved by the regulators, everything was fine.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, now they're investigating into other ways that he's kind of done that in the past, and people are thinking, oh, he's just selling the Lakers now, so he doesn't have to deal with that kind of thing.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: I actually think it's a lot more specific than that.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: And AM Hoops went into a great video on this one.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think if we can find it, I'll send it to you so you can link it in the description.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: If he finds it, I'll put it up there.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: But um, I think what really happened is after that eight months, I think he looked around and been like, yeah, this team's screwed.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: We're out.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you buy the Dodgers when they have LeBron James on their roster.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: And LeBron James is on the Dodgers?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Or he's playing.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: He's going there too.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna pay, they're gonna pay him probably eight or nine hundred million and defer that.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, league minimum, dude.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: We'll defer that too.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Defer it all.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine LeBron James making more money?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: And show a Otani on the Dodgers.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, yes.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I can because he's LeBron James.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, no, I just think what happened was he brought in the front office.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, okay, let's do this the same way we did with the Dodgers, right?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there is no Andrew Friedman to go poach.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's Sam Preste.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's not leaving the Thunder.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: The front office isn't leaving the Spurs.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: You have it's it's not like Major League Baseball.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: That second apron makes it almost impossible for the Dodgers to do in the NBA, the same oldership group, what they did in the NBA, in the Major League Baseball to do what they're going to do in the NBA.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Makes it much more difficult.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Much, much more difficult.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't, I, you know, obviously this team's the Lakers are going to be talented.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: They have um, you know, they have Luca, but that's really it.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: They don't have anybody.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they don't have any assets, don't have any future assets.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: The draft capital's all dried up.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they spent all the money.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: They had a couple of draft assets left and they traded them for Walker Kessler.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I think they just kind of looked around and realized, crap, we're in it.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: We're stuck.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden this could be really bad, really bad, and it's our fault.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and all of a sudden Bob Iger, you know, Mr.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Mickey Mouse himself comes calling and says, Hey, we wanted to buy that expansion team coming in Vegas, but they're saying that's gonna cost 10 billion to have that team.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Why not buy the prestige Lakers for a couple more Billy?
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: What's another couple bill?
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then he's like, Hey, we'll pay you 10, you know, 12 billion dollars for that.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: And and the Dodgers ownership groups is like sold.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we were just talking about how we realized crap, we screwed this up, we gotta get out of this.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's more.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm not saying that that's the only reason, but I'm willing to bet you that's a big, big part of it.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: I just hope the dot I just hope the Lakers start losing.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really care if they lose.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like I already I already mentioned that they were not gonna be as good as the Jazz in our last video.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: We saw all about it in the comments too.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then on top of it, and then on top of that, they just lost the smartest ownership group in professional sports.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's gonna be like sorry, what's bought what is what is the guy who ran Disney gonna know how to run a bat how to field a basketball team?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: How's the Kushner brother, you know, yeah, gonna know how to run the team?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: All right, like what are they gonna know how to fill out this team?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm sorry, you you lost the opportunity to have the best uh front office in professional sports run your team, man.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: And you and you and you just kind of you punted it.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't do it.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, yeah, I don't I'm not worried about the Lakers anymore.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not, I don't think it really makes a whole lot of sense.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we got some comments here we want to get to.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: First one I want to jump into here is uh Jordan uh B Kirill?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Jordan B.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Surreal 7488.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Did I say that right?
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard it both ways.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he says here, uh, I miss the nostalgia of Dirk Field, Dirk's field, absolutely.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: That was what uh the state that was what the field was called when the trappers were here.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um before your time.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: Way before my time.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: I would have thought Ace would be in the starting lineup.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that is coming from J Juro 5059.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, I mean you would think he would be if, but you know, who's not playing in the starting lineup?
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing is we we talked about this in a previous episode, right?
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like the the big thing is is if you push Ace into the starting lineup, you put him at what, the three, so you move Lari to the four and triple J to the five.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: It it looks okay on paper, but is that the most effective lineup for the Jazz to stay defensively tough?
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think you have, you know, a second-year player in Ace Bailey.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, uh I think Keonta's been better on defense, but is is he ready to step up defensively?
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: You take Nurk out, you know, at really being almost a seven-footer that's gonna help you defensively.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think Ace fits better with the second unit.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we're projecting him to be, you know, as the first man off the bench versus in the starting five.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we both hope that uh Triple J is not the starting center on this team.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we we pulled some stats and statistically he's been better at the four.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think he provides a little bit more flexibility at the four.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: His defensive presence is better at the four.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: He's not a great, you know, post-up defender.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's more of a he's he's a better help defender.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's where he's had his best years.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we want to see him there.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean, we're no we're not uh opposed to it.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: I just think that there is also some um you know ish interesting situations.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: If you put Larry at the four, he's probably one of the worst defenders in the league of his size um outside of Chet Holgram.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, shots fired.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, too soon.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: Too soon for for Thunder fans.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay, they don't watch the show anyway.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, unless we say something about that after team, then they definitely jump in.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um we got another comment here from Michelle McKinnon 403.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: The if the jazz tickets are more affordable, maybe more people would be able to afford to see them instead of baseball.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Disappointing baseball is so expensive.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: Professional sports is not getting cheap.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's one of the only things worth paying television for now that everybody's cutting cords and going streaming.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's really the only main reason why anybody still has uh paid cable is specifically for sports.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, the only reason, and I only pay for it half the year.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so football season is the only time I pay for cable.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's just kind of that's just kind of the way it is, you know.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and almost anything live that you go to is is expensive nowadays.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just it's ridiculous.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: You can't go to anything now.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: But it is it is worth it.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing better than sitting in a ball field or sitting in the Delta Center and hearing the roar.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you can't beat it.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um with the bees there, they do have their discount rates, they do also have their field pricing.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: They do still have some of their other stuff, steady remote.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: They try, they can get you, you can get in there cheaper.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can get in there cheaper, and you could also get like family nights and stuff where it's pretty cheap.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, my problem is I'm a guy that likes to sit on a sideline.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: I like to sit on a sideline, I like to sit close.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and uh don't want to plan it out for a Thursday family night when there's you know 16 kids that need to go to the bathroom every five minutes cutting in between me.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just don't have those knees anymore.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I kind of sitting down.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, your knees are way bad.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do that, you know.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I just yeah, so the few times I get to go, I I I want to enjoy it for sure.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we also have another comment here from uh Michelle McKinnon.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I already have to snipe Dodger games this year.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: So you were gonna go to a Dodgers game.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Dodgers, you know, gosh, that team's payroll, it's gotta be paid for somehow, and unfortunately does trickle down to the ticket prices.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Don't expect those to ever go down either with that team for sure.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we gotta pay for that scuba contract next year.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: Too soon?
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: Any anywhere but Dodgers.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Anywhere got that video uh on Major League DNA.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we get somewhere.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we got calamari Atari, eight viewers, one eight viewers on one and one like.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Let's pump up those like numbers.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: Heck yeah.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, calamari Atari.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: You guys go ahead and hit the like button, leave us a comment.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's get it.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome, man.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, got a comment here from Greg Hawkins, channel engine.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: LeBron could play uh right field in LA.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh if if you know, you know.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's where that's where uh Kyle Tucker plays.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Who believe it or not is actually playing well over the last couple games, you know.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Believe it or not, but you know, I like to see LeBron James try to hit a fastball.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude, it would never happen.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: It would never happen.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Austin Reeves, yes, dude.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like go down.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: Next one.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Austin Reeves is sneaky good, uh, but he's 50-50.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: This is coming from Sid.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, so on that one, I I agree, but again, both him and Luca, no defensive, no defensive capability with those two.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, no effort.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: If your whole plan is to shuffle everybody into Walker Kessler, it's not a bad plan, but at some point teams can scheme around it.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we saw it with the Jazz in the 2019-2020 season with Rudy Gobert.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: And Kessler's no Rudy.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: The the whole plan was to shut, you know, to funnel players into Rudy Gobert.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: That they just they really, really screwed, they really struggled, you know, and and they schemed him out essentially, you know, because they knew he couldn't shoot.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Walker also can't shoot.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: So you run into problems, especially when it comes to playoff time.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, especially, you know, that that it'll be it'll be fun to see.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: For sure, for sure.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Another comment here from Calamari I'll uh Atari, I'll get that right eventually, guys.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about it.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we can run, uh, we can run with Nurkic as the starting center, only jazz player uh to ever hit five straight triple doubles.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then they corrected it to three straight below.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, three straight correction, yeah.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, dude, that's the other thing about tanking, man.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: It just made it create created a whole bunch of things.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: They created these like ridiculous statistics, weird stat games, man.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what was that one game where there was five players that scored a triple double or something in one game?
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it was just it got insane, dude.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: Or no, wait, not five players.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: It was he the jazz had five players in five straight games getting a triple double, right?
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: Or something like that.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: Something like that, yeah.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, special shout out to um great jazz legend, Walker uh Russell Westbrook.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: He was signed to the Jazz for like three days before they waived him.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: Twice.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: He just traded to the Jazz and he was waived both times.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, infamous meme where he's like, What?
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: That was in the Delta Center when he said that.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, someone asked him the question, did you guys win this game or did the Utah Jazz lose this game?
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that was his answer.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what are you talking about, man?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's something that gets used in every meme.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's right here in Utah.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: Gotta love it.
• 31:10
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• 31:10
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• 31:47
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• 31:53
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• 31:59
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• 32:01
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• 32:09
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• 32:10
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• 32:11
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• 32:12
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• 32:14
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• 32:15
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• 32:18
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• 32:19
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• 32:20
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• 32:20
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• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: So again, great jazz conversation.
• 33:17
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• 33:23
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• 33:29
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• 33:50
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• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and jump into it.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, AJ, we've got some thoughts we want to talk a little bit about uh when it comes to the University of Utah this week.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um fall camps opening up, not a whole bunch of huge storylines coming out of that this week.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: I always like to wait a couple weeks before we start job diving into that kind of stuff.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean the good news is the the Utes have a lot of players that they know are gonna be in those positions, right?
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's a couple question, questionable groups and stuff like that, but we'll wait till we get a little bit closer, make sure injuries aren't happening, that kind of stuff, right?
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: We got we got a few weeks.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and most Big 12 teams they only don't even let them out on the field, like the press out on the field to watch practices, except for like the kickers.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like I think that was the biggest story is like, hey, you guys come out and watch practice, and it's just for the last five minutes to watch the kickers, you know.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and Utah football actually live stream their kickers.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, did you see that?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I did see that.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and obviously we don't want to sit here and bore you guys with the uh interviews there.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: You probably covered enough, absorbed enough of that from everybody in local media on that one.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: So we wanted to kind of shift the focus a little or a little later in the season.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: We did that last week where we skipped over the game against Idaho and went right into the game against Arkansas.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: But we're gonna do that again and shift it even further, AJ.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Let's kick it out even a little further.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think this one we're gonna go a little bit further out.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna need to talk about the Holy War.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, now this I think we got one that is, if not the one of the most important rivalry games in Utah BYU history.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: How about in all of college football?
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I don't know about that.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, all of college football, I'm not huge into the It's gotta be one of the biggest ones.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's gotta be top ten.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure the old BCS days, there's a few games over there in the SEC that really kind of shaped how that all shaked out for a national championship.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: I I can see where you're coming at from there for sure.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we definitely have a recency, we definitely have a uh a small bias.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe a small bias.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so let's go ahead and start off with the obvious.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: What I'm gonna do here, AJ, is I'm gonna go ahead and break down uh why I think this is gonna be one of the most important uh rivalry games we have.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's get it.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's go ahead and start off with the obvious, okay?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: So BYU has won three straight contests uh against their rivals from up north.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we have had a video on this channel previously where we talked about um how the Utah faithful, especially of a certain age, um, that haven't been around when Utah hasn't been the more successful program in Utah, uh in the state.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: Prior to this losing streak, the University of Utah has won 14 out of the last 17 matchups.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's going back with the last three and the full last 20 games they played against each other head to head.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: So another loss for Utah uh would put BYU um kind of in signifying that position that we might be swinging back to BYU domination that we've seen uh in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: AJ.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: I want to uh pause for your thoughts on that, my friend.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it's a great point.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like this this is this is a this is a pivotal game for for Morgan Scally, especially because as Utah fans, we gotta win this game, right?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like we we have to, no questions out, we we we have to win this game.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um as there there's just there's just no excuses to lose this game ever.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um because obviously we always feel like we're the better team.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: So one of the things that that Scallies got to do, and we've watched it over the last couple of years, you gotta take field goals when you get them.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um this this is one that's that was really frustrated.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the game last year where they they came into field goal range, decided not to kick a field goal, and you know, ended up turning the ball over, didn't get any points out of it.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: That ended up being the difference in the game, and and it happened multiple times.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: So plain and simple, no excuses, take field goals, you know, be aggressive scoring the football.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta win it.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_01: So um this one's important for Scally.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think you know, to really get the Utah fan base to turn towards him, I think everyone's buying in.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: We all love it, but uh yeah, you definitely gotta you definitely gotta wait.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I agree with you on that one, man.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: I agree with you.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: That is an important game for for them to win.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but again, that's not really gonna be the most important reason, AJ, uh, for why this I think ranks as the most important rivalry game that this duo has ever seen.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um so you know how how about this, AJ?
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's put it this way.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: This game, this year, uh, we'll put these two teams in pretty much impacting the whole conference as its whole based off of this.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Coming in this game, AJ, we were expecting the University of Utah to pretty much be undefeated at that point, right?
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: At least that's gonna be the goal is for Utah to be undefeated coming into this game.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: And we are expecting uh BYU to potentially have one loss uh to their non-conference uh um uh opponent with Notre Dame.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that kind of pretty much sets that up to where this game's gonna be kind of important on stacking who's gonna be the most important team.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the uh as far as power rankings in the Big 12?
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is a this is the pivotal game for both of these teams this season.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, no doubt about it.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: And for the conference, how it's gonna shake out.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: That that's exactly the point, because it essentially ends both teams, Big 12 and college football playoff hopes, or at least takes it out of their control, right?
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, a loss means you are hoping for the other team to lose again, which is never what you want to do as a football team, right?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: You you want to control your own destiny.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, where winning this game gives you pretty much a lock at that number two, right?
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: Assuming Texas Tech is as good as we think they're gonna be.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, everything kind of rides on this one, man.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and luckily it's a home game for the Utes.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I I absolutely love this.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: Riceycle Stadiums is one of the toughest places to play in the country.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: I will go to bat for that every single time.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: If you've watched it, um and and if you've ever been to Rice Cycles, you know that place gets so loud it is very tough for opponents to play there.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: So having the tiebreaker against BYU is one thing.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but obviously in the conference standings and assuming that Utah slips one game this year, you know.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like we're we're not assuming Utah's going undefeated the whole season.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you slip one game and then having the the tiebreaker over BYU is going to be very important.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: So like I said, I mean it it is the the the conference title game almost plays down to this one.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um this is gonna be a fun game, man.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this uh if this is BYU's second loss, this changes their season drastically.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, right?
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: Because A, they're out of they they don't hold the tiebreaker anymore, and and B they're they don't have a chance at that college at the at the Big 12 title game, which is their automatic bid.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then if they go to the college, if if they lose, get into it, now they're a three-loss team.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Now, you know, now the Big 12's not gonna even get that second team because who even chances?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: So that would flow nicely into our next topic, which we want to talk about, AJ, which is actually going to be uh the CFP.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's funny, AJ.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we were about three weeks out from the season, even starting, and we're already talking about who's gonna make it into the CFP or not.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's just how much farther we're projecting forward.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're not covering the interviews.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: Nah.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's tough.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: You got people.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to the end of the season, baby.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need us for that.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: ESP and 700.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: And they're credentialed media members.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: Just listen to the beginning of all their videos.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Just yeah, just listen talk about that.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: Listen to them kiss the ass of whoever they're interviewing, yeah, and not ask any hard questions.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: So um, but anyway, so we want to talk about stuff that's actually going to be important, stuff that people are actually talking about now.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Locker cooler talk.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean not locker cooler, um water cooler talk, right?
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's basically what we want to talk about is the CFP.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so in this situation, AJ, um, this is what we but, you know, this is what we're talking about.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: So here we are.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so last year, the Big 12 conference uh kind of got hosed last year, right?
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: BYU was uh only lost to one team all year.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's just unfortunate they lost to the same team twice, which is drastically, even as youth fans, we gotta say that's kind of an unfair shake for BYU.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: Even as a Utah fan, that is a bad shake.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because as a conference as a whole, right?
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: We want to have representation there.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: But in that sense, they deserve to have a second team, BYU should have been there, right?
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: How much it would have hurt us as youth fans, that that that we felt like that should have happened, right?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: BYU only lost to one team all year, uh, but then they kind of got hosed.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: Now, technically, uh, they were a two-loss team, keeping that in mind.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: We lost that that made them fall out of the CFP from last season.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: But AJ, since both Utah and BYU do not play Texas Tech this year, this puts this team, this conference in a very unique situation where we can ex if we expect both Utah and BYU to have a good season, it is likely that we may see, you know, it's a possibility.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: Let me ask you that.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: Is it more of a possibility that we're probably unlikely to not see two teams from the Big 12 in the CFP this year?
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: This is a tough one, man.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: And and as crazy as it is, I think a lot of this absolutely depends on what happens in the BYU Utah game.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that is it it is all kind of centered, and I think if so your question is can the Big 12 produce two CFP teams?
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's what happens BYU Utah?
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: That that is the answer.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: Because, like you said, Texas Tech, they got a cush schedule.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: So if Utah wins, they got a chance to be a one-loss team in the regular season, right?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this this is just assuming one loss somewhere.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, my personal pick, I think they lose the week after they beat BYU.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_01: Going to Arizona is a tough game.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I I think that's probably their one loss this season.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: So you uh so Utah being a a one loss team means you get an auto bid into the CFP with a win in the title game, right?
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I feel like the way BYU kind of got shafted last year, I could see the Utes getting a CFP bid even with a Big 12 title loss, right?
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like even if if they're a one loss team, they make it to the Conference championship, they could still get in with a loss to Texas Tech just because of the way that they shafted BYU last year.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, I don't know if we're gonna do this again because we clearly didn't do this, right?
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think if they did I think if BYU got in there with one loss, um and that loss was a comp but see that's what they did last year.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: If you lose two games, if you lose to Utah and you lose to um Notre Dame, but then you have to win the conference and then you have the automatic bid, right?
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, exactly.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: But if you only lose, if you beat Notre Dame and lose to Utah, or you beat Utah and lose to Notre Dame, then again you're still just a two-loss.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: One of those losses being into a top five team, you still even if you lose to the conference champion, you kind of have to let BYU in again, specifically because of how much they screwed up last year.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think they still let them in then.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, I totally agree.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because if BYU wins the the if the BYU wins the Utah game, they are now a one-loss team, assuming they're one loss coming from Notre Dame.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I mean that that's that's a pretty strong bid.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's a pretty strong case for a top 12 bid, even with a title game loss, right?
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Your your one loss is your one loss in regular season is to a non-conference opponent and one of the top probably 10 teams in the country.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, currently ranked five.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: The preseason coaches poll has them at five.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Notre Dame's always they're always up there, right?
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean just by per se.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: But the crazy part about Notre Dame is they always lose a game really early early in the season that they totally shouldn't lose.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that'll be kind of like that's actually that's actually my concern is that BYU beats Notre Dame.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's what that's my follow-up question.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: Is in that situation where let's say BYU beats Notre Dame, but then loses to Utah.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: The good news is they're then BYU goes into the conference championship and loses.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_00: They are still only a two-loss team that lost their conference championship.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: So same situation as last year, just one in conference team.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say BYU I mean, some of these scenarios get all jumbled up in my head, because that's that's kind of crazy thing.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: Because if they do beat Notre Dame, lose to Utah, they probably don't make the Big 12 title game.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: Right, because that's because Utah's gonna have the tiebreaker over them.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, exactly.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so then I mean, yeah.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_01: So now you're hoping for a bid into the top 12 based on your your win over Notre Dame, a loss to Utah, who at this point's probably a top 10 team.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: So you're probably one of the top 10 to 15 teams in the country with one loss, but you didn't make your conference championship.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: So that would still put those two teams in.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, at but at that point, because if Utah loses in the conference championship, how do you put you how do you put BYU in over top of Utah even if they lose?
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm saying you still have two teams because you have Texas Tech who gets the automatic bits.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then hopefully Utah.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then Utah because they're only in one loss team.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: So Well, they would be a two-loss team at that point.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: The conference championship, yeah.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: And only one other game would be in loss uh loss to like we're assuming they're losing somewhere.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I I I still think in that situation, Utah still gets in.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: So you have Texas Tech and Utah, because Utah will only have a one loss and then a second loss would be.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: So does B does BYU get in only being a one-loss team without a loss on a conference championship?
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because at that point they're 11-1 with their only loss to Utah, and they beat the number five team or whatever Notre Dame ends up being.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: So they would have the tiebreaker, so that would be an at-large.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: So in that situation, are we seeing three?
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: This yeah, we're going down the rabbit hole here.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: We're down the rabbit hole, guys.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you guys jump into the comments.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: Let us know what you think.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because we we think the Big 12 can produce two college football teams.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: I honestly don't see a way that they don't.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's my main argument, is that regardless of how this shakes up, and let's just say for some reason, you know, toss some salt over your shoulder, AJ, do whatever you gotta do to hex it.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say, you know, there's a different team in Utah or BYU spot here, and they're running the situation the same way.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're only a one or two lost team coming out of the conference championship.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Can you keep them out of this uh out of this uh CFP?
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think you can.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't think you can.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean this unless the conference is because the fact is the conference is gonna beat up on each other, but but they they scheduled it this year so that teams, if they play the right way, all only have one loss.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't I don't see where BYU and Utah have more than two losses if they don't if they don't screw it up somewhere.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why I'm kind of thinking I'm like, okay, there's at least got to be two teams.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think we're pretty solid on that, we think that at least with the BYU and Utah schedules being as soft as they are, you know, BYU is the only team out of the two that's actually playing a top ten preseason ranked team, right?
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: So like, and and even then, like it's it's Notre Dame who could quickly fall off, you know.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: So Notre Dame loses one they shouldn't lose every single year, man.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of like okay, they both have good savers, neither of them are playing Texas Tech.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: So we're kind of in a situation where I think it's kind of expect like unless something catastrophic happens, and you know, like I always say, this is an exercise in futility trying to predict college football.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: It really is, but it's so much fun.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're gonna hit some of these uh in the chat here.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: We've got uh Sydney.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: I can still not say your name right, dude.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: Macleef, I got you.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: McEl Reef, thank you.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what is your opinion?
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: Who's the better uh who's better?
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Bird Ficklin or Devin Dampier?
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going with Devin Dampier just simply because I I don't know, man.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: He just he he was the better quarterback last year.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_01: And he was I'm gonna I'm gonna go also with Devin Dampier, but I think it's a much more narrow margin than it was last year.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because because Byrd reportedly through camp is throwing the ball much, much better.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and like they are they are they are saying into the public that there will be packages where Bird's throwing the football.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: Now, is that a misdirection?
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, right?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's something you want to put out to the media.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: You want everyone to think every time Bird catches a ball, there's a chance that he's gonna throw it.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: Totally understand that.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think Devin Dampier is elusive as they come.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think you don't have to design runs for him.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna take him.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: He is a more primarily passing quarterback, he is a better scrambling quarterback.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, where Bird is not as strong of a passer, he his design running is so much better because he is really fast.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: He's you know, he makes great cuts.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think he sees the field better as a running quarterback, but I think Devin Dampier um is better at holding the ball, getting the ball up the field if he needs to, and then feeling pressure and escaping the pocket to make big plays.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_01: Devin Dampier by by a slim margin, is my opinion.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like this follow-up comment here by Sid.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: Both are really talented QBs, but I feel like Bird uh can be amazing next year at when uh Devin leaves.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I just think uh there's also another caveat to what Sid's saying there is that you always hear where they talk about like, oh, they're really gonna open up the ball uh and they're gonna start throwing it more.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is something that was like something that was teased every single fall or fall camp going into the season when uh with Kyle Winningham.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: Bringing a new offensive coordinator and we're gonna open things up, we're gonna throw the ball more.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: I love that um that Scaly kind of shut that down right out the gates.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like he just like, well, we're gonna be a physical football team.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like when he's like, he's like, as soon as someone's like, oh, you're gonna see them throwing a lot more passes this year than last year, he's like, well, we're gonna be a physical football team, which is Utah speak for this team's not gonna throw more than they run, right?
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I think in that situation, you're gonna they're always gonna establish the run first to try to try and develop the passing game, right?
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: To open up the backfill a little bit.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's always gonna be Utah style first.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: Run the ball is gonna be where they're at.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think where Sid's kind of what Sid's point kind of matches on this is like you even mentioned that uh Bird Feckland's gonna be more of that that type of uh design run than you're gonna see with Devin, specifically for that reason.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: So in that case, I could see where they're coming from on that because they're gonna not not want to lose that offensive identity.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think in one of one of the press conferences you mentioned that you you want to leave Utah filling, you know, knowing you feel it the next day, yeah, the next week.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: You want to be like, oh man, absolutely I don't want to play Utah because they hurt.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_00: They make us hurt.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, even even when we win, they still make us hurt.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: I I can see where he's coming from, but like you said, the the margins are starting to get thin there for sure.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and the thing is is Bird knows that he's a quarterback of the future for Utah.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's coming into this season knowing I've got one more season beyond Devin Dampier, and then this team's mine for two years if I want it.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: It kind of feels like we kind of did uh that Wilson kid dirty that way because he thought the same way.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's gonna be a good thing.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he's gonna come in, he's thinking what's his name.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, yeah, but but I mean, honestly, he it wasn't necessarily Utah that did him dirty.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was Cam Rice and getting hurt that that really did him in, right?
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because he he knew he wasn't ready to be a starting quarterback in Division I football.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, right?
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like he played for the best team in high at you know, best team in high school football at Corner Canyon, had a great season, set every record there was.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: He knew it was gonna get a lot more difficult, but he was planning on coming in and learning how to read the field, learning to adjust to the speed, playing with all the twos.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like he needed that opportunity to learn and grow, and he didn't get it because Cam got hurt.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: So but Bert Ficklin's in a really unique situation because they're running an offense around him.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: So he's getting time on the field with designed runs for him.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: They're it especially if they do put the opportunity for him to throw the ball in here and get some throws.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he made like 15 passes last year, had a pretty good percentage through a couple touchdowns.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: Bird Ficklin's gonna have an opportunity to keep growing as a quarterback, and that's gonna be really important when it's on him fully to run this Utah offense and then to have a whole nother year under his belt learning the offense, understanding terminology, making reads while he's on the field.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: Bird Ficklin's gonna be great when he's the starting quarterback for Utah next year.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know his completion percentage last year?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's something crazy.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's probably like 66%.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: See, I was gonna say 67%.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's something high, but but I think he only throw 15 or 20 passes last year.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm sort of thinking I'm like, do I have that side of my head?
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think I have that side of my head.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's something right in there, yeah, for sure.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: Lumpy brains right here, big brains.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: Boom.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: We just hold on to that stuff.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, soak it up.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: Keep the questions coming.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: I love this.
• 53:56
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• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: Locked on Utes, LMFAO, yeah, right.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, just I just hope you like our our Utah content better than locked on Utes, Greg.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you know, it's just I again, that's why we do this, right?
• 54:09
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• 54:17
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• 54:18
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• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, we just want to create a place for everybody to chat, you know, and talk sports, you know, and be able to call each other idiots in the comments because that's you know where it's really fun.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's usually what happens, yeah.
• 54:32
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• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't hurt my feelings anymore.
• 54:36
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• 54:37
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• 54:38
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• 54:41
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• 54:43
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• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: Two monetized YouTube sports channels.
• 54:46
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• 54:48
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• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh again.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh jump in the comments, let us know what your thoughts are on either subject we talked about today.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: Do you see this as being one of the most important holy wars that we've had uh in uh you know these teams' uh glorious, like almost two year 200-year history with these two schools?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, do you see it as being as important as we do?
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, uh it's really up there, man.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's got an impact on both just you know who's got bragging rights in the state and way beyond that, and simply how it's gonna shape up uh how things are gonna go for the Big 12 and even the CFP going forward.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: So we want to hear from you.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_00: All right, let's go ahead and jump and chat a little bit about Major League Baseball.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
• 55:30
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• 55:35
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• 55:42
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• 55:43
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• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get talk some ball.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely, dude.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it's this has been such a crazy year in Major League Baseball.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and and it's funny because the team that we're we're we're about to talk about is not the team that any of us thought we would be talking about at this point in the season, right?
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no, but because to start the season off, this team was so bad, right?
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, like at the in the beginning of June, they had the worst record in the American.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it looked like they were just gonna be in full-on cell mode at the deadline.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like just get rid of everybody.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like we've obviously got to break this thing, you know, down to the bare bones.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: We've got to see what we got.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: Let's move some assets, let's get in some guys, like we got to go get some prospects, maybe Dodgers style.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: I uh let's do something, right?
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I didn't know we were gonna be here.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: Especially talking about the Boston Red Sox, if if you guys haven't figured it out yet, right?
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is a team that was 14 games under 500, and all of a sudden they're they go to an absolutely crazy and win 27 in their last 30 games, including a historic 13-game winning streak, something that Boston is it, was it more than 13?
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: 15, yeah.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: Was it fifth?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, they pushed it to 15.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_01: So, which is something that Boston hasn't seen since 1948.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: So, and then right when you think this team couldn't get any more dangerous, find any more of a groove, um, you know, at the deadline they added Adley Rushman, right?
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: And and now the with an already incredible turnaround, you think is Adley Rushman potentially one of those pieces that kind of makes this team truly dangerous.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts, Darren?
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, I mean it's really tough to argue the addition of Adley Rushman's not gonna help this team.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think I think at our pre-meeting you talked about the potential of it affecting chemistry, maybe.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, it's kind of what we were talking about before.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I think you're 100% right.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Adding Adley Rushman's gonna, you know, at the deadline was a smart move.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Connor Wong was the guy who had the most starts at catcher uh outside of him, and he, you know, he wasn't bad, but this is what you're adding, man.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Adley Rushman has an OPS plus of 115.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Again, OPS plus uh average is 100, so he's 15 points above average there.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, which it puts him at uh two war so far for this season.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Connor Wong again was their current starter.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Adley was double uh Wong in war, RBI, and home runs.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: So his stats are double Wong's numbers.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's insane, right?
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so he also has a higher slug, OPS, OPS plus, and batting average.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: Now Wong has more stolen bases and on base percentage, because we know how important stolen bases are.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: MVP.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, in all fairness, man, yeah, I think those, you know, those stats do matter.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I do think it's it's important.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Wong isn't necessarily a bad catcher at all.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but with adding uh uh Adley Rutschman, it's definitely gonna be an upgrade.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he's a switch hitter, you know, all the stuff that comes along with that as well.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_00: Wong can come off the bench and give Wilson Contreras uh some breathing room uh at first place at first base, get him off his feet because he does play Connor Wong does play first base as well.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, Wilson Contreras, who's just been an absolute fiend out there, just a beast.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, later inning innings, if it's a blowout game either way, you can get Wilson Contreras off his feet.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_00: Connor Wong can slot in there.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_00: You also can have him off the off the bench uh as a bat uh when you need it.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, man, and obviously Adley's coming back from injuries, so you're not gonna have him start every game of the week.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're probably gonna give him a couple starts, give him a rest, give him a blow for a game, you know, let Connor Wong come in there, you know, and then you'll have Adley coming off the bench.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: I just think this is a nice fit for the Red Sox, and they just really are adding premier talent at the deadline uh when they really need to.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, again, they traded for him right before free agency.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: So again, another three-month rental, just like you said, pulling uh pulling a dodger there.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, man, I mean, if if you want to play for, I mean, he probably's not happy about it.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_00: He probably thought he was gonna be an Oriol for life and really going to free agency as an Oriol, but I mean, at this point, I think he'd rather be on a contender going into a lockout year when he really had no idea where his next contract's coming from anyway.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I think everybody's gonna be happy on this one.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's really gonna be a chemistry issue.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I think, you know, I heard something mentioned on the Braves broadcast today that, you know, as a as a player that gets traded, are you upset um that you got traded midseason?
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the guys said, I I was never upset because clearly some team out there wanted me.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so I'm excited to go out there and do my best and give this team everything I have.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, especially if it's in a contract year.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is your shot to prove that you deserve the next contract.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's got a great opportunity to go out there and keep doing this.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, this could turn out very well for the Boston Red Sox.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think so too.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think, and just not to switch sports, but do you remember the comment that uh Kyle Corver said in one of his graduation commencement speeches?
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and you have an all uh somebody an alma mater come back and give a speech.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: So he stood up on stage at his alma mater in college and says the first line was cash considerations.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: First time I was traded was for cash considerations so the team could buy a new color printer.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, That's something I carried with me for the rest of my career.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I put those extra hours in the gym.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was never gonna let somebody degrade me to below cash considerations ever again.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: So even in the situation where, you know, someone didn't want you and they just wanted to dump you, yeah, or they knew they couldn't afford to pay you.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, you're gonna go out there and you're gonna be like, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna prove you wrong, or I'm gonna Yeah, it's all about taking advantage of that opportunity, man.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love it.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta do it.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: Every single time, man.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Do you hear a lot of the Dodgers fans that are talking back and forth about um the statements that and this is something I want to talk about with you because again, you are a Resident Brays fan.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's correct.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: And this is important.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's correct.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so Terek Scuball basically came out and just said, I don't have any uh patience for anybody who's wanting about the Dodgers going in and improving their game, saying all the right things, right?
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_00: What people are talking about how the Dodgers are in baseball, right?
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, then he made comments about like, oh, you know, you're a pending free agency, you know, what do you think?
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Oh, yeah, I absolutely hope the Detroit Tigers are in in the conversation.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I would love to go back and play there.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: There's a s a small minor section of the Dodgers fan base where like, hey, whoa, dude.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, pump the brakes, but you are here right now, you know?
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_00: And they all kind of contributed back to when uh Freddie Freeman became a Dodger and he went back to Atlanta, and that guy could not stop crying in the field, cannot stop crying in the press conference.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the Braves is a great organization.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's neither here nor there, AJ.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's not the part we're talking about.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: I want to get your perspective on like how do you feel about that?
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_00: Because in this situation, the Braves didn't sign Freddie Freeman.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: He just wanted an extra year.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: Freddie Freeman should have never gotten to free agent contract.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_00: So they didn't pay you, and you signed you signed a free aging contract somewhere, and you still balled your eyes out.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_00: Derek Scuball didn't get a say in any of this.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_00: He was just traded to the highest bidder, quote unquote, highest bidder.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what that there's a whole video on that.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you guys check that one out on MLB DNA last week.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_00: Nice little rant from AJ.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: Great rant from AJ.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean, I don't know.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and he came to his defense.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, Freddie Freeman came to uh Terry Scooba's defense on this, and I don't know, man.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_00: What's your take on it, dude?
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like how do you feel about a team saying how much they hope their former team's still in the bidding process for when, you know.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_01: I I think it's I think a lot of it's just these guys being classy, man.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't I think at this point for any MLB player, you know, going into a season or playing in the middle of a season, I I sincerely don't think that they're thinking about where they're gonna be playing next year.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_01: I I think that they're they're in it, they're with that team, they're they're fully immersed in in the culture that of the team that they're on, and they're not actually looking forward to playing anywhere else.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're saying things to appease the media.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if if they have any future like ideas of where they want to play, I highly doubt it comes out in one of these media interviews.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I honestly I think it's pretty innocent.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_00: They asked the question, what do you want them to do?
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, exactly.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_01: Dunk on the team, be like, no, screw the tigers, I would never play there again.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you definitely can't do that.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Scott Force would ream you if you took a player off the market.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a team off the market.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_01: At that point, every single team's gonna be like, Did you hear how this guy talked about the tigers after he was there?
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like they gave him his career, right?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: No, you you can't do that.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got to be, you know, I I'm glad that Scooball did it just the way he did it because it shows that he's a classy person.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: It shows that, you know, he even though the Tigers are having a rough year and and having a down year, um, you know, he's willing to go play wherever, you know, he doesn't got anything against the organization that gave him a career.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's the right move.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's the right thing to do.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_01: And again, I don't think that he's doing anything that's that's projecting where he'd want to play in the future.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's just answering a question that was asked to him in the media.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I wholeheartedly respect it.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's even less of a issue than what Freddie Freeman did.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because even Clayton Kershaw is like, hey, dude, you know, we got something great going on over here.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you you know, you're a dodger now, you chose to sign here, you need to want to be here.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like he said that in the media, and then Freddie Freeman kind of shut it down after that, you know.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of like I when Terry Scubal said what he said, I did I'm right there with you.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have any issues with it.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I just wanted to get your take on that because I think it's kind of uh kind of interesting to hear because again, you were you had a player that left your team for another for greener pastures, um, and you know, had a similar reaction, but more on the field.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I was curious to what your thoughts are.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think being on the field would be much more different.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, much more different.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and honestly, there's the whole thing about his agent screwing things up on the back end, and he didn't know what the the Bray's final offer was, yada yada yada.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_00: I still argue the Bray should never let him get to free agency, but that's they absolutely shouldn't have.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's there's no question there.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he just shouldn't have been there, but um I think it just shows again that this is this is a classy player that is giving his appreciation to the fans that went out there and cheered for every night and bought his jerseys and and made him into the player that he was.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the right way to approach that scenario, right?
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like he had a house there, he had a you know, he raised his kids there, like he did all the things you know in Atlanta that he came to love it there, and he just Freddie Freeman did it the right way.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think Terry Scoobal is doing it the right way.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's just Part of being the player that you're supposed to be.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to hit some of these comments here before we jump to the next one.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: There.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well said, AJ.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well said.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_00: For a subject we weren't even planning on talking about.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was that was there was no notes on that.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_00: That was a hundred percent conversation.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_00: Got a comment here from Greg Hawkins saying uh Cubs Braves Dodger's still at the top of the league.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: Go Braves.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: Brewers imploding.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_00: Love that.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: Love to hear that.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_00: We got a series coming up against them soon here.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_00: And we also got a comment here.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, the Raids are still at the top of the AL.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: Unserious league over there in the AL.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, dude.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_00: And they they've been scuffling a little bit lately.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know what their last 10 is.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if if we had that quickly, but yeah, it's uh it's not looking great for them, I think, uh, from what I saw there.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: Even they are seeming to have a bit of a bit of a scuffle.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_00: If we were to go into yeah, the Rays, they are are well never mind.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_00: They won nine straight.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_00: Never mind, they're nine and one.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, that's not a bad ten.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's not a bad ten.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's not bad for the last ten.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_00: Correction.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_00: I guess that was previously.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, dude, 74 wins on a nine-game winning streak, and they and their best team is yeah, that's funny.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, straight to your point there, Greg.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's a nine-game winning streak, and they're not even at the same level.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're basically at 74 wins when you know pretty much all three of our teams are going to be right around there, too.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_00: And none of us have, you know, been there.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's interesting.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, anyway, stick around, Greg.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_00: We got something we want to talk about.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like right now, actually.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and this I'm sure you saw I'm sure you saw it in the title of this video, and I'm sure that's probably why you're still watching.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um we wanted to have the conversation.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_01: We we did preface it last week.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: We we did, we did, absolutely.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: And and and then we did our notes, and then we had to readjust our notes this morning.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: Banger subject coming up next week that we had to kick out of this week.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_01: We did for this current subject.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_01: For this current subject.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_01: So you guys make sure you tune in next week as well.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's gonna be an interesting one.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_00: Gonna be a good one.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: This week, right now, we want to talk about Pete Crow Armstrong and what is his case for winning MVP over Shohe Otani.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_01: So um PCA's putting together an incredible season for the Cubs, right?
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_01: He's turned himself into a legitimate MVP candidate.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_01: He currently leads Major League Baseball with 7.5 B war, uh, while he's also leading the league in fielding run value and outs above of average.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_01: So this isn't just a defensive showcase for this right, right?
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like this guy's he's bringing power, speed, production, and obviously he's got elite defense.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: He's bringing all that to the table for the Cubs, doing everything he can to prove his point that he's one of the most valuable players in the National League.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_01: So um I think his defensive impact is probably what's bringing the most to the table.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_01: He is hitting the ball great.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he does have what 27 home runs a season, which is which is great.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh 72 RBIs.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um RBI.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_01: We don't pluralize it.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess that wouldn't really work, huh?
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_01: Run batted ends.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just it's a it's a baseball stat there that a lot of people say.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just like one of those things that baseball peers would get on you about, which I guess I'm not really one of the things.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_00: It would actually be R's BI.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_01: RSBI if you were gonna if you were gonna pluralize it if you're gonna be able to do R'Bi.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is even more ridiculous.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that actually is a little bit more ridiculous.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, um, like I said, with all those things that he's currently leading in, um, combining elite defense, 27 home runs, 72 RBIs, 0.933 OPS, um, it really gives him an MVP case based on five tool production rather than just offense.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts, Darren?
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the standard argument for uh an Otani fanboy, right?
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um the I'm you know, are there some of the things that I need to to point out, right?
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_00: So like if I was in an if I was gonna sit here and argue for Otani, what would I say, right?
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what's PCA's ERA, right?
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_00: How many wins does he have this year?
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_00: That would be the that would be the gut check reactions of things I would say about PCA uh for why I think Otani deserves to have the MVP over him.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's what I'm supposed to say, right?
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean show me Shohei Otani does still lead the league in OPS at 940, still leads the league in OPS plus at 162, again, 100 being average.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he also leads PCA in OBP as well as walks.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's got one more home run over um over uh PCA has one home run over him because Shohei has 26, uh PCA has 27.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, and Shohei Tani might get back on the mound in September.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, as long as he's at least an average pitcher, um, it really doesn't matter.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the sheer two-way, you know, thing is basically just a mic drop in this scenario.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_00: If they're that close offensively and Shohei's on the mound and pitching at least average, that's gonna still be the ultimate trump card there.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're like, it doesn't matter, like he's still doing both at the same time and being, you know, doing this awesome thing, right?
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_00: But AG, I'm not gonna say any of that.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_00: Even though I just said it, that's not what I'm gonna say.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_01: You did just say all of it.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, for the record.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_00: For the record, but that's not what I'm saying.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually on the internet.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is on the internet, and that's what I should be saying as a Shohei Otani fanboy, right?
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_00: But as a Dodgers fan and as an Osh O Tani fanboy, um, Otani is not playing like an MVP.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not even just saying at the plate, uh, you know, it's not even just the fact that he's not injured and he's he's just not playing that well at the plate.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_00: He'll get the occasional leadoff home run, right?
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_00: 26 home runs, nothing to sneeze at, right?
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's still pretty good, right?
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_00: And he's still leading an OPS, OPS plus on base percentage, still leading the league in walks, and not leading the league in the walks, but still beating out PCA for walks.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Still a lot of offensive categories that he's over PCA on, yeah, with the exception of War, which I think is going to be the most important stat here.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but the you know, he'll also still get the random leadoff home run, the still random single to uh right field.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_00: But as somebody who's watched as many Shohei Otani at bats as I have and as many Dodger games that I have seen this year, I will have to say, as a Dodgers fan and even as an Otani fanboy, there are about two or three Dodger players I'd rather see at the plate right now when the game is on the line than Shohei Otani.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um unless Shohe Otani goes on like a crazy tear for the rest of the year, uh um, you know, from the plate, as well as coming back to the mound and does okay there.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see how you can't currently give the award to PCA.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't I mean I totally agree.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the fact is PCA's been fantastic.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh just you guys understand the the fielding run value that he leads in, uh, this is an advanced defense or defensive metric that demonstrates how many runs his defense is preventing compared to the average player, right?
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, understandably, Shohi Otani is a fantastic pitcher.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and ERA is one of those stats that they use to gauge how a pitcher plays.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_00: I just think a defen a pitcher, a good pitcher is going to their value and run reduction is gonna be better than any outfielder, regardless of how good it is.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_00: It is, but the fact that PCA is easily, I think he's a platinum glove winner this year, which is only an award for those of you who don't know.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Only one position player gets a platinum glove.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's and you have to have an insane season.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Think about how all the great outfielders out there in baseball, infielders, outfielders, there's only one person who gets a platinum glove.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think I think it would be a shocker if PCA doesn't win it.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_00: A platinum glove.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's how good he's doing out there.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_00: And he's been on absolute tear offensively ever since he put that Homer into the tarps offscension.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, that was the that was the time, man.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_00: We covered that one extensively.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is absolutely unbelievable how how well um he's been.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I mean, if you're watching Dodger games, you're probably thinking, like, how Darren, how can you do that?
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's just been way too many times where Shoyo Tani comes up with a game on the line, and he could even just put the ball like in the outfield with a double, something like that, and the game is over.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_00: I watch him chase a slider down and away, or chase a high fastball, or ground out to first base every single time, and it's always the player behind him that is making the play that gets the Dodgers the win.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_00: It has not been Shohei Watani this year.
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_00: And again, he's having he is injured.
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_00: I can't state this enough as a player who wants to see him play well, but imagine if you had to have fluid drained from your knee, you know, to the point where you can't, you know, step off the mound anymore.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_00: How hard do you think it's gonna be to still run on that leg?
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_00: How hard do you think it's gonna still be to swing on that leg?
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, he is playing injured, so people are like, oh Judge, you know, he can he'd win the MVP if he wasn't injured.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, keep in mind Otani is injured still.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like he is injured.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_00: If he was healthy, this wouldn't even be a debate, right?
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_00: But he's not, and he's definitely playing like a player who is hurt.
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, just most players would still hang it up.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_00: He he's not, he's playing.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, but I don't think that takes away anything at all from what PCA is doing.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to break this down to the three letters of what this award actually means and ask you a question.
• 1:15:06
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a player so this is the most valuable player?
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a player more important to their team in offensive and defensive production than PCA is to the Cubs at their current 71-50 record?
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_01: One of the best teams in the world.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_01: In the National League?
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_01: National League, American League.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess I guess you yeah, you put in American League, it gets a little more hairy.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's so let's just say in the National League, where he's gonna win the MVP award.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a player more critical to their team than PCA is to the Cubs right now?
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_01: In your opinion, I guess.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think if there was, you could make an argument for the Miz.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because there has been historical evidence of pitchers getting an MVP.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think he is as important, but he's not producing offensively, obviously.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_00: But that's pitchers have won MVPs in the past.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_00: And Sai Young's in the same year, yeah.
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, but no, I don't think I still would put PCA way above him.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_00: So those are more of honorable mentions, but yeah, I think you're right.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Easily.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess that's all I'm saying, right?
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like you look at it from a very like particle grain level, and there is not a player more important to their team right now than PCA is to the Cubs.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's kind of where I'm feeling.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you can look at all the all the statistics you want.
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_01: You can you can say he's doing great on defense, but they're winning and the way that they're playing relates to how he's producing on offense.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's obviously an outstanding defensive player.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_01: They they need him right now, right?
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_01: You lose PCA from the Cubs right now.
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_01: How many games they lose in a row?
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Greg Hawkins, I know you're a Cubs fan.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we got a comment here from General Legend Greg Hawkins.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_00: PCA is playing out of his mind this year, guys.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing to see.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's taking his walks, and he has a bunch more uh selective since yeah, been much more selective since May.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, much more selective since May.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's been playing huge dividends.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was a big thing for him.
• 1:17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Is his chase rate's way down this year.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Way, way down.
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_00: Tammy Price, friend of the channel, jumps in here and says, I hate to see it.
• 1:17:08
  SPEAKER_00: I hate to say it, but I need to see more clutch from Shohei.
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's so amazing, but I agree.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh let's see here.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh let's see here.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Then he needs to sit for a while.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, Otani may need to sit for a while, but yeah, that's just not simply not gonna happen.
• 1:17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like he's just he's not gonna do that.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Otani is like Tiger Woods, PCA is like John Daly.
• 1:17:36
  SPEAKER_01: That that's actually a legendary comparison.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's actually great.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because just yeah, some of the stuff PCA says, man, ever since he told that fan what she could do for him.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that was that was interesting, you know, and then getting into it with Dodger fans, talking about that, even though it's his hometown team, you know, it's just it's hilarious.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of a fun, it kind of reminds you that these players are human.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_00: And then we got uh Tammy coming from the top ropes here.
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, Hotani hits a two-run go-ahead homer tonight.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but the fact that they actually were down to the Royals at all is just, you know, an embarrassment of itself.
• 1:18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, great stuff, man.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely love it.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's been great to see PCA and what he's been doing.
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, uh it's just been it's been fun, man.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_00: The National League is clearly the better league this year.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's gonna be C It's gonna be fun to see who gets those last spots um in the in the wild card.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, more to come.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Great more comments, guys.
• 1:18:31
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• 1:18:33
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• 1:18:37
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• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Also, let us know uh what subjects you guys want us to discuss as we're going in the dog days of August here.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no kidding.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_01: I got one more thing.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, did you see that there is currently a four-way tie for the most home runs in Major League Baseball?
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_01: No way, yeah, four-way tie.
• 1:18:55
  SPEAKER_01: So Kyle Schwarber, Jordan Alvarez, Matt Olson, and Junior Camanero are the four players that currently have 35 home runs in Major League Baseball right now.
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_01: 35?
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:19:07
  SPEAKER_01: So this is um this is the latest point in the season that there's been a four-way tie for a home run leader since 1982.
• 1:19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that season, in that season, all four of those players had 34 home runs, and it was broken two weeks later when they finally pushed past it.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, like every week they were just tying, tying, tying.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was kind of a fun stat.
• 1:19:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, I love you know, one of those guys in there is Matt Olson.
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_00: So right, yeah.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting, interesting.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_01: So who do you think comes out on the end?
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I mean, I hope it's Matt Olson.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say that right now.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's go, let's go with Matt Olson continues to lead the league.
• 1:19:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I see it ending with uh Jordan Avalas, man.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_00: The AL MVP runaway.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's gonna end it this end the season with the milestone runs of baseball.
• 1:19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um Kyle Schwarber, man, he can do it, but uh Father Time uh escapes from nobody, and they've they've just they've just leaned on him so much over the last couple of years.
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_00: They put a lot of pressure on Schwarber.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I don't know, man.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, we really need one here, man.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_00: And he's performing, he's doing it.
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's doing it.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's important.
• 1:20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's the kind of money that Max Muncie would be would you know get paid right now if he wasn't uh he wasn't a team guy, you know.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um again, see the video for the most underrated player in baseball.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_00: We'll link it somewhere.
• 1:20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we got a question here.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_00: We got a comment here from Greg Hawkins.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_00: I swear they're juicing the balls again this year.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I yeah, I mean, maybe 35 though, like that's the lead in home runs.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're just gonna be all-star break, though.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's only 40, there's only 41 games left in the season, less than 45 games.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_01: So that puts a few players on track for 55 or 60, though.
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I guess you're right.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_00: I guess there is that.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, 55.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_00: If we have a couple, there's always a few that could get close to 50.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll see how it ends up.
• 1:20:56
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, probably probably right there, Greg.
• 1:20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um probably has a lot to do with uh the pitch clock and all those other stuff going on uh in Major League Baseball for sure.
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_01: I think so, because I think the pitch clock is is affecting pitcher fatigue.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Especially when you get into the later these later innings, pitchers are having to throw the ball much faster, which is gonna get them fatigued a little bit faster.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you are seeing some bullpins, but um I don't know.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_01: That that's that's an interesting that's an interesting thing to talk about, actually.
• 1:21:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 1:21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um we need to talk about that one more time too on uh baseball because we had one of those comments there on our actually our highest performing video on the channel is uh yo uh Yoshinobu Yamamoto uh is killing the myth of pitch limits.
• 1:21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Chris Sale, you know, being like what 58 years old, going out there and 65, yeah.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's near retirement.
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Showing that he can still throw, you know, highest velocity in the last 10 years.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Touching 100.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and being being reliable as a pitcher, you know.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_00: So like it's um it's pretty crazy.
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty crazy.
• 1:21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, we did want to make can we talk about I know exactly who this is.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is great.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, actually, we didn't want to make a comment on that, actually.
• 1:22:08
  SPEAKER_00: So we have something on the set here that we have called for the longest time.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, John.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we called this uh Ennis Decanter.
• 1:22:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's a whiskey decanter, right?
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_00: We are officially now uh pulling his namesake off of this, and this is just a decanter.
• 1:22:26
  SPEAKER_01: This is just decanter now.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's Ennis Decanter like it was before.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, this was named Ennis Decanter.
• 1:22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's just a decanter on set.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So that kind of lets you know where we're sitting on on that whole thing.
• 1:22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, good times.
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