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Ep. 196 - The Parable of the Sower and What It Means · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:04
  Oscar Navarro: There are some people and again I'm using that word Christian loosely, because it appears that they're not actually believers.
• 1:11
  Oscar Navarro: It seems like they receive Christ with joy at the very beginning.
• 1:16
  Oscar Navarro: It seems like they have a personal revelatory moment with the blood of Christ.
• 1:21
  Oscar Navarro: But as life moves on, as they experience pain or suffering, as life doesn't turn out the way they may be they wanted it to, they begin to abandon God altogether.
• 1:32
  Oscar Navarro: These people, as they at the beginning, they would say they want to be a part of the Kingdom of God.
• 1:36
  Oscar Navarro: But if you search their hearts, really what they want is God to be a part of their kingdom manly kingdom, and I love the way Dr Keller calls it.
• 1:44
  Oscar Navarro: He says these guys want blessers, not a savior.
• 1:47
  Oscar Navarro: They want a sugar daddy, not a king.
• 1:50
  Oscar Navarro: They want to suffer.
• 1:51
  Oscar Navarro: They are sufferers in need of solution rather than sinners in need of a savior.
• 2:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Welcome to another segment of Choose One and Only One.
• 2:06
  Emeal Zwayne: We're here on the Living Waters podcast.
• 2:08
  Emeal Zwayne: We choose one and only one.
• 2:12
  Emeal Zwayne: All right guys fall six feet into a pit full of cacti or cactuses.
• 2:20
  Ray Comfort: Both are appropriate.
• 2:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I looked it up, get stung by 30 bees or get locked into a five foot by five foot closet with ten stinky skunks for 24 hours.
• 2:36
  Ray Comfort: I choose the first, Easy Wait you guys are serious.
• 2:41
  Ray Comfort: Yes, first one.
• 2:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Fall six feet into a pit full of cacti versus 30 bees, stung by 30 bees or getting locked into a piece, the piece.
• 2:51
  Emeal Zwayne: The piece Mark 30 bees.
• 2:55
  Emeal Zwayne: That's like getting sheep in your teeth.
• 2:58
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you're gonna get stung by bees.
• 2:59
  Ray Comfort: That's poison they put in you and that's gonna itch and swell.
• 3:02
  Ray Comfort: But, there's poison and some cactus.
• 3:04
  Oscar Navarro: No these aren't poisonous cactuses.
• 3:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Poisonous cactus.
• 3:07
  Ray Comfort: No, you just add that why aren't we discussing the skunks?
• 3:14
  Oscar Navarro: I know Because I feel like after about 15-20 minutes maybe the smell would just get you sweet.
• 3:18
  Ray Comfort: So is it, yeah, but it's locked in a closet without a laptop.
• 3:21
  Ray Comfort: That's how long how long, full.
• 3:25
  Emeal Zwayne: No, you get your laptop with a skunk.
• 3:26
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, okay, skunks.
• 3:27
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I think I might go skunks.
• 3:29
  Emeal Zwayne: As long as you can have the laptop in there.
• 3:30
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, yeah, because you get used to the smell.
• 3:33
  Ray Comfort: I think, yeah, you're right, cactus.
• 3:34
  Emeal Zwayne: One of my children loves the smell of skunk.
• 3:38
  Ray Comfort: All right, there's a skunk oh there's a skunk behind you.
• 3:40
  Emeal Zwayne: right there is, that's a reminder of Ken Ham.
• 3:43
  Ray Comfort: Is that from Ken?
• 3:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes.
• 3:44
  Ray Comfort: Yeah.
• 3:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Stinky, stinkers.
• 3:46
  Ray Comfort: So, Izzy, what would you choose?
• 3:50
  Emeal Zwayne: I think I'd go for the skunks Is the fourth one.
• 3:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I think I'd go for the skunks.
• 3:54
  Ray Comfort: Three rappers rapping at the same time for $2,000, a small word.
• 3:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Hey, hey, hey, his name is Ray Ray.
• 3:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray Every day day gets up to pray, pray, pray.
• 4:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Now I don't get up anymore.
• 4:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I say I don't want to pray, I stay in bed.
• 4:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I don't know, Oscar, what would you do?
• 4:10
  Emeal Zwayne: I said skunks.
• 4:11
  Oscar Navarro: You would do the skunks, I think.
• 4:12
  Oscar Navarro: So I think I'm hoping I'd get used to that.
• 4:14
  Oscar Navarro: The thing about cactus is I don't like they have to go in and then they got to come out, so it's like a double suffering.
• 4:22
  Ray Comfort: I don't know if I appreciate that.
• 4:23
  Ray Comfort: Hang on a minute.
• 4:25
  Ray Comfort: If I landed with skunk, he dropped into a six one to skunks Six what you drop into a closet.
• 4:32
  Oscar Navarro: You're in a five foot by five foot closet.
• 4:34
  Oscar Navarro: There's no dropping, you're just in it.
• 4:35
  Ray Comfort: Okay, so yeah, I'd just say, Lord, please take the smell of the skunks away.
• 4:38
  Ray Comfort: It's like the lion's den.
• 4:41
  Emeal Zwayne: But the ten skunks Ray, one for each, come on.
• 4:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, Sounds quite interesting.
• 4:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, skunks are man.
• 4:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Skunks are interesting creatures.
• 4:50
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys see what they do.
• 4:52
  Emeal Zwayne: They go on their front paws, I think, with their tails up in the air, I don't think so and they go back yeah, they go backward toward you.
• 5:00
  Ray Comfort: I saw two skunks at Seritas College about a year ago.
• 5:03
  Emeal Zwayne: The skunk that stunk, yeah, I filmed them.
• 5:05
  Ray Comfort: They're very fascinating.
• 5:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you?
• 5:06
  Ray Comfort: really.
• 5:07
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, they're beautiful.
• 5:08
  Ray Comfort: I really tried to get a pet skunk, pet billy billy, but it's illegal in California.
• 5:13
  Oscar Navarro: Is it really?
• 5:13
  Oscar Navarro: You can get them de-stunk?
• 5:14
  Ray Comfort: You can get them de-skunked yeah.
• 5:15
  Oscar Navarro: I need that.
• 5:15
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, and I was going to get a tract and talk about sin and how it's offensive to God and give it out when I count a little skunk everywhere.
• 5:21
  Oscar Navarro: How you can be de-skunked.
• 5:22
  Ray Comfort: You're not allowed in California.
• 5:23
  Ray Comfort: Interesting, have you?
• 5:24
  Emeal Zwayne: guys, I have an abortion, but you're not allowed a skunk.
• 5:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Have you guys ever been sprayed by a skunk?
• 5:28
  Mark Spence: No, but about 20 years ago I was on my way to go speak at an event and I saw something in the road and I couldn't swerve from it because there was cars around me.
• 5:40
  Mark Spence: I'm like I just got to run over this thing, whatever it is, and it was a skunk.
• 5:43
  Mark Spence: It was a dead skunk.
• 5:44
  Mark Spence: It was already dead.
• 5:45
  Mark Spence: It was already dead.
• 5:46
  Ray Comfort: You smell it in your car instantly.
• 5:48
  Mark Spence: It's amazing you don't even have to run it over a skunk forever.
• 5:50
  Oscar Navarro: Oh it like affected your car Ray.
• 5:54
  Mark Spence: I think you accidentally ran over a cat one time.
• 5:59
  Ray Comfort: That's one of the most embarrassing things they've ever done.
• 6:01
  Mark Spence: Tell us about it.
• 6:03
  Emeal Zwayne: That's in your dumb book.
• 6:04
  Ray Comfort: It's in a dumb book.
• 6:05
  Ray Comfort: I was 18 years old.
• 6:05
  Ray Comfort: I was courting Sue coming back about 10 o'clock at night from their house.
• 6:08
  Ray Comfort: I was driving along my car in the dark and I suddenly saw something shoot in front of me.
• 6:13
  Ray Comfort: I heard thump, thump.
• 6:14
  Ray Comfort: I thought, oh, I ran over a cat.
• 6:16
  Ray Comfort: Oh, I better back up and save it some time.
• 6:18
  Ray Comfort: I backed up and I heard thump, thump and I panicked and took off and heard thump, thump Three times I ended up with a flat cat.
• 6:25
  Oscar Navarro: That's very sad about it.
• 6:27
  Oscar Navarro: True story I hit a kid with my car and the dad thanked me.
• 6:32
  Ray Comfort: It was a goat.
• 6:34
  Oscar Navarro: It's a true story no, a child.
• 6:35
  Oscar Navarro: So I was driving down a residential street and I was driving really slow down this residential street and some kid runs out and slams into the back of my car and falls over and I stop and I'm like I'm going to prison for the rest of my life.
• 6:50
  Oscar Navarro: This is it, like I'm done.
• 6:51
  Oscar Navarro: I get out of the car and I meet the parents of the kid and the kid's kind of crying and discombobulated and the dad was like thank you so much for driving slow because people come racing through this street and ultimately, like, you saved his life.
• 7:05
  Oscar Navarro: I was driving so slow that the kid, like, ran into the back of my car.
• 7:08
  Emeal Zwayne: So he was driving.
• 7:09
  Emeal Zwayne: He must have seen what he missed you Maybe.
• 7:11
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, but the dad was really thankful.
• 7:13
  Oscar Navarro: He was like man, thank you, if it was anybody else, that could have been really bad and Any damage to the car.
• 7:17
  Oscar Navarro: So there was like this is kind of gross, but there is like skin on my car.
• 7:25
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, skin, skin.
• 7:26
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, like his face like hit it and got scraped on the side of my car which is kind of gross.
• 7:32
  Emeal Zwayne: What's the makeup on that skin?
• 7:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, skunks, man skunks.
• 7:38
  Emeal Zwayne: They're really bizarre, I think there's times in my neighborhood the smell is so strong.
• 7:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm sure someone ran one over, so that's your breath.
• 7:46
  Emeal Zwayne: I would imagine if you run one over it's like it's going to linger.
• 7:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 7:51
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, it's bright.
• 7:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, skunky, but it would be cool to have one Ray for a, you think people, you think it'd get a crowd for everything.
• 7:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Absolutely, I mean, what's wrong with?
• 8:00
  Ray Comfort: us they're so they oh, they've got the temperament of a kitten or cat.
• 8:05
  Ray Comfort: Oh, they do About the same.
• 8:06
  Ray Comfort: That's what I read when I looked into it, I hate cats.
• 8:09
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, but the cat, you can hold a cat and people are strokily strokin, that's what a skunk would do and it'd be just.
• 8:13
  Ray Comfort: I think people would be fascinated by it.
• 8:16
  Emeal Zwayne: We should come out with scratch and sniff skunk tracks.
• 8:19
  Emeal Zwayne: We did, didn't we?
• 8:21
  Ray Comfort: I did have a track that had a skunk on it and said scratch and sniff.
• 8:25
  Ray Comfort: This is many, many years ago.
• 8:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Easy idea stinks, it's stunk, it's past.
• 8:30
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, we have a comment.
• 8:32
  Emeal Zwayne: This is from SJWF 53.
• 8:35
  Oscar Navarro: From W.
• 8:36
  Emeal Zwayne: New to listening to you.
• 8:37
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys are amazing, trying to find the courage to witness to people after a long dry spell.
• 8:41
  Emeal Zwayne: As a new believer 21 years ago, if someone rejected the gospel or didn't want to listen, my confidence went down completely.
• 8:49
  Emeal Zwayne: But finding you guys is encouraging.
• 8:51
  Emeal Zwayne: I have to build my confidence back up after learning.
• 8:54
  Emeal Zwayne: If someone doesn't want to hear you I shouldn't be offended, but just to keep planting seeds.
• 8:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I just started listening to you this week after I heard Easy was on 511 news with Joe Schimmel and Chad, I decided to give you a listen episode on rebellious children.
• 9:08
  Emeal Zwayne: That woke me up.
• 9:09
  Emeal Zwayne: My kids are not saved and they are adults.
• 9:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Some of the things Pat said really hit home.
• 9:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Still praying for my kids Sorry, I wrote a chapter.
• 9:17
  Emeal Zwayne: God bless and keep up what you're doing, wow.
• 9:21
  Oscar Navarro: So encouraging.
• 9:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, at NRB I went on with our good friend Joe Schimmel.
• 9:25
  Emeal Zwayne: How does he talk?
• 9:26
  Emeal Zwayne: I dare not even try, you can't do it.
• 9:31
  Emeal Zwayne: He's got such a unique voice.
• 9:33
  Ray Comfort: Ben Price does it.
• 9:34
  Ray Comfort: Oh, Ben Price.
• 9:35
  Emeal Zwayne: This is Price?
• 9:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, really good, but it was so refreshing because that guy loves the Lord.
• 9:39
  Emeal Zwayne: He exudes Christ.
• 9:42
  Ray Comfort: And his voice shows it, the way he talks.
• 9:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, just passion and just a dear dear brother.
• 9:48
  Emeal Zwayne: So, yeah, I was on there and they put it up on their YouTube channel and, I think, other avenues.
• 9:53
  Emeal Zwayne: So, hey, thank you for joining us.
• 9:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Our new friend and look, people are still mentioning Pat Nemmers.
• 9:58
  Emeal Zwayne: His impact is far and wide, so good stuff.
• 10:03
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• 10:09
  Mark Spence: Is that our most popular track we've ever sold?
• 10:11
  Ray Comfort: Yes, ever Over 200 million, right, yeah, and that was just one lady who's trying to reach a husband.
• 10:17
  Oscar Navarro: In Belflyre, poor lady.
• 10:18
  Oscar Navarro: Thanks, mark Still trying.
• 10:20
  Ray Comfort: Mark, you've heard that probably 6,000 times.
• 10:22
  Ray Comfort: You still manage a little grunt.
• 10:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Why isn't it one man trying to reach his wife?
• 10:25
  Mark Spence: Courtesy.
• 10:25
  Mark Spence: No, it's the car, I feel like just every time I look at you make me laugh.
• 10:28
  Mark Spence: Oh, thank you.
• 10:30
  Emeal Zwayne: And Susan Plyftor.
• 10:31
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• 10:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Ooh, we got more joining in.
• 10:39
  Emeal Zwayne: We got to start harmonizing guys with that, I can't harmonize.
• 10:42
  Ray Comfort: Harmonize.
• 10:43
  Ray Comfort: If someone goes in a harmony in a church, I can't sing.
• 10:45
  Ray Comfort: I get pulled in with them.
• 10:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Harmonize, harmonize, harmonize, harmonize.
• 10:50
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, today we're discussing the parable of the sower and what it?
• 10:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Means Aze, it's actually the soils.
• 10:58
  Emeal Zwayne: It's the soils, not the sower.
• 11:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Is that what you always say, Ray?
• 11:02
  Ray Comfort: Probably I don't listen to myself.
• 11:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Probably, but I can't remember.
• 11:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, this is a very, very popular parable.
• 11:14
  Mark Spence: Popular parable Popular parable.
• 11:16
  Ray Comfort: Sermon series popular parables.
• 11:18
  Ray Comfort: You just like the alliteration, so it doesn't matter what it?
• 11:20
  Emeal Zwayne: says I love the alliteration.
• 11:22
  Ray Comfort: It's a very pertinent and pregnant popular parable.
• 11:25
  Emeal Zwayne: That's pretty.
• 11:27
  Oscar Navarro: I actually thought it'd be really fun to do like a sermon series called Terrible Parables, Because if you pay close enough attention to the parables, it's convicting towards everybody the church and the unchurch, the moralist and the antagonist towards moralism.
• 11:42
  Oscar Navarro: You know, there's something there that just convicts the soul, no matter where you're at and your faith.
• 11:48
  Oscar Navarro: For that reason they're terrible parables.
• 11:51
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, this is one thing I think is easy to forget, or maybe not Always talking about yourself.
• 11:58
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm not talking about myself.
• 11:59
  Ray Comfort: I'm talking about myself.
• 12:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Again from bearable, terrible parables.
• 12:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Unbearable, terrible.
• 12:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Shareable, shareable, terrible, no, but you know, I think sometimes we just forget, like nothing is within the pages of scripture on accident, which means that the divine son of God knew the exact number of parables that would be in scripture and the exact parables that would be in scripture, and he gave us these parables to give us, you know, insight into truth.
• 12:29
  Emeal Zwayne: And what I love about this one is Jesus gave a commentary on the parable.
• 12:34
  Emeal Zwayne: He actually went on to describe it and to open it up to the disciples.
• 12:38
  Ray Comfort: Recover.
• 12:39
  Ray Comfort: Do you ever think who did shorthand while he was speaking?
• 12:42
  Ray Comfort: What tape recorder did they use to get all his words Cause, every word he said is relevant and pertinent, and yet no one could write as fast as he was talking, so it had to be inspired by the Holy Spirit to give us these scriptures?
• 12:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, you know, you remember, jesus said to the disciples that the spirit would bring to remembrance everything that he said and taught.
• 13:00
  Ray Comfort: And my words will not pass away.
• 13:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and I was listening to a sermon recently and the speaker was talking about how there are certain revolutionary events in all of our lives that we remember.
• 13:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Sometimes we can't remember what we had for breakfast, right?
• 13:14
  Oscar Navarro: A given day, three eggs.
• 13:17
  Emeal Zwayne: But unless you're Oscar right, you at least remember things like where you were.
• 13:23
  Emeal Zwayne: I wouldn't remember I wasn't born, but where you were when JF Kennedy was shot.
• 13:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, you probably remember when you first heard this the very second.
• 13:30
  Ray Comfort: I remember seeing the headline in the paper.
• 13:31
  Ray Comfort: Also remember when the arm of one of those parking building, those arm things that come down, hit me in the head the other day.
• 13:37
  Ray Comfort: You'll never forget that, I'll never forget that it left an impression on my forehead.
• 13:42
  Ray Comfort: On my mind it was episode dumb.
• 13:45
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, For younger people like myself where we were when 9-11 happened.
• 13:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, that would be the second example that I was going to use.
• 13:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, we can hear you whisper.
• 13:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm sorry, I was just saying how, but when it hit me head on Saturday.
• 13:58
  Ray Comfort: It was so loud.
• 13:58
  Ray Comfort: Strange it was 30 feet away, yelled out.
• 14:01
  Ray Comfort: Are you okay?
• 14:02
  Oscar Navarro: You're okay, you hear what happened.
• 14:04
  Oscar Navarro: Why what happened?
• 14:05
  Ray Comfort: Well, I went and parked on the basement because it was World Surfing Championships.
• 14:08
  Ray Comfort: The parking building was packed and so I had not been down there before, went up an exit and it put me on the street and I want to use restrooms.
• 14:14
  Ray Comfort: So I had to go back in the parking building and I saw there was opening where cars go through.
• 14:18
  Ray Comfort: So I went through and the arm came down and hit me on the head.
• 14:20
  Ray Comfort: If I'd been a second earlier, it would hit me on the top of the head, would have sent me insane, which you would have known, who would have known the difference, how we have known, how we have known, but it hit me on the side of the head so it didn't crack my brain.
• 14:32
  Oscar Navarro: There's gotta be a recording of this.
• 14:35
  Emeal Zwayne: I was thinking here Like security recording.
• 14:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I know exactly what it is.
• 14:37
  Ray Comfort: I would pay lots of money to get that.
• 14:39
  Ray Comfort: It's about 11-15 on Saturday morning.
• 14:41
  Oscar Navarro: Can we reach out and see if we can get this on video?
• 14:44
  Oscar Navarro: Think about how many views it would get on YouTube.
• 14:47
  Ray Comfort: I might, and a lot of happy atheists.
• 14:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Bring it down, bring it down Ray, I think it is possible that you, of all people that have ever lived, have consumed more milk than anyone in history, cause you used to.
• 15:02
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't think you do anymore.
• 15:03
  Emeal Zwayne: You used to have three bowls of cereal a day.
• 15:05
  Ray Comfort: I still consume a lot of milk, probably a couple of gallons every few days.
• 15:09
  Ray Comfort: I think it's raw milk.
• 15:11
  Oscar Navarro: Warm, no not raw milk Raw.
• 15:15
  Ray Comfort: It doesn't go past my eyes to go straight in the mouth, not past your eyes.
• 15:18
  Mark Spence: We used to get delivered 16 gallons of milk every week to my house.
• 15:22
  Mark Spence: What yeah, on Monday.
• 15:24
  Mark Spence: Eight gallons on Monday and eight gallons on Thursday.
• 15:26
  Oscar Navarro: Why Are?
• 15:26
  Mark Spence: you kidding me?
• 15:27
  Mark Spence: We love milk.
• 15:27
  Mark Spence: We grew up with milk, oh good for you.
• 15:29
  Emeal Zwayne: I love milk too.
• 15:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Strong bones, the landfrowing milk and honey.
• 15:33
  Ray Comfort: Listen, I got a correction.
• 15:33
  Ray Comfort: It's not two gallons every few days, two gallons a week.
• 15:36
  Ray Comfort: That's what I go through now Two gallons a week.
• 15:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, guys, I wanna research your brains, the stuff you guys enjoy.
• 15:44
  Emeal Zwayne: How can anybody enjoy milk unless they're a baby?
• 15:49
  Ray Comfort: I had a school year, what the Bible says a land flowing with milk.
• 15:53
  Emeal Zwayne: And honey.
• 15:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, but you didn't read the original Greek.
• 15:55
  Ray Comfort: No, the honey is too sticky.
• 15:56
  Ray Comfort: It's just a land flowing with milk.
• 15:58
  Mark Spence: No milk and chocolate.
• 15:59
  Mark Spence: The first thing I did when I got here to the ministry was I put a cup of milk in the freezer for about a half an hour.
• 16:07
  Mark Spence: Nice and cold.
• 16:07
  Mark Spence: Why don't you have room temperature, Mark?
• 16:09
  Mark Spence: Do you call it room temperature?
• 16:11
  Mark Spence: Kinda sin, why would I do that?
• 16:13
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm sorry.
• 16:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk, I don't comprehend it.
• 16:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk with cereal yummy, with sugar, nice things.
• 16:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk with chocolate syrup or hot chocolate?
• 16:24
  Oscar Navarro: You're a sweet tooth is the problem I'm realizing.
• 16:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Bro milk is disgusting.
• 16:29
  Oscar Navarro: There's no flip.
• 16:30
  Emeal Zwayne: They're so good they're so good.
• 16:31
  Mark Spence: They're helping you to get to the mouth.
• 16:33
  Emeal Zwayne: It's chewed grass Milk in my teeth wonderful.
• 16:35
  Mark Spence: You need some milk Milk by itself.
• 16:38
  Mark Spence: I don't know why I find out.
• 16:39
  Emeal Zwayne: This is why your bones are fragile.
• 16:40
  Ray Comfort: I don't wanna tell why you don't like it.
• 16:41
  Ray Comfort: Some cows chewed it and chewed grass, they spit it out.
• 16:46
  Emeal Zwayne: And to milk, what's a car?
• 16:48
  Mark Spence: Car If you go to a spence dinner in Sioux City, iowa, where my family's all from.
• 16:54
  Mark Spence: It's usually just a big pot of stew that's been simmering all day long, and then they just put a big old gallon of milk.
• 17:00
  Mark Spence: Depending on how many people, two gallons of milk.
• 17:03
  Oscar Navarro: You don't drink water.
• 17:03
  Oscar Navarro: That is the widest thing for a six.
• 17:06
  Emeal Zwayne: And you just made it worse by combining milk with food.
• 17:10
  Emeal Zwayne: How in the world can you?
• 17:11
  Emeal Zwayne: That's like drinking coffee while eating food.
• 17:13
  Mark Spence: I like milk with pizza.
• 17:14
  Mark Spence: What?
• 17:15
  Emeal Zwayne: You do that too.
• 17:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, anyway, we got a show to do.
• 17:18
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys just drive me nuts.
• 17:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Speaking of which, the parable of the milk.
• 17:22
  Emeal Zwayne: The sower, yeah, or the soils.
• 17:25
  Emeal Zwayne: It's been called different things.
• 17:26
  Ray Comfort: All right, let's-.
• 17:27
  Ray Comfort: How do we get on to the thing?
• 17:28
  Ray Comfort: I have no idea.
• 17:29
  Ray Comfort: I'm thirsty now.
• 17:30
  Emeal Zwayne: It's you guys.
• 17:30
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, matthew 13,.
• 17:33
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll read portions and we'll stop beginning in verse 1.
• 17:37
  Emeal Zwayne: On the same day, jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea.
• 17:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Stop.
• 17:41
  Oscar Navarro: And great.
• 17:44
  Emeal Zwayne: And great multitudes were gathered together to him so that he got into a boat and sat and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
• 17:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, how cool is that?
• 17:54
  Ray Comfort: If you've been surfing, you know the wisdom of that.
• 17:56
  Ray Comfort: If you're out on a surfboard, there's no wind.
• 17:58
  Ray Comfort: You can hear surfers talking from two miles.
• 18:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, what is it about that?
• 18:02
  Ray Comfort: Because, there's nothing to hold the sound back, but I heard sound travels better on water.
• 18:08
  Emeal Zwayne: It does, because there's not trees and things to rocks to slow it down.
• 18:11
  Ray Comfort: It's just got Goes.
• 18:13
  Ray Comfort: And so when the crowd packed around Jesus, they would have trampled him to death, almost because they want to hear what he said.
• 18:19
  Ray Comfort: We just got him out in a boat and his voice was amplified by being on that boat.
• 18:23
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, just such wisdom.
• 18:25
  Ray Comfort: Obviously because he created everything and you know how it worked.
• 18:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, you appreciated acoustics, didn't you Open up preaching?
• 18:31
  Emeal Zwayne: You'd always, wherever we go, I'd see you walk around.
• 18:33
  Emeal Zwayne: You do a clap.
• 18:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, right, it gets sound there.
• 18:37
  Ray Comfort: No, no, I was encouraging myself and saying you're a good preacher.
• 18:41
  Mark Spence: Pat on the back.
• 18:42
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, check the acoustics, check the wind.
• 18:44
  Ray Comfort: Very important Doesn't matter at the beginning if there's a fountain by here, but after 20 minutes there's a fountain going sound like Niagara Falls after that 20 minutes.
• 18:52
  Ray Comfort: So it's really important to get the wind behind you and get good acoustics.
• 18:56
  Ray Comfort: What does the fountain sound like?
• 18:57
  Ray Comfort: How do you spell that?
• 19:00
  Ray Comfort: Ray T-H-A-T-T-H-A-T-R-A-Y.
• 19:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Then he spoke many things to them in parables Stop.
• 19:10
  Mark Spence: What is the purpose of a parable?
• 19:11
  Mark Spence: Why didn't you just speak plainly Well?
• 19:14
  Emeal Zwayne: he'll tell us Things in parable, saying Behold, a sower went out to sow and as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside.
• 19:21
  Emeal Zwayne: What do you mean by seed Seed fell by the wayside?
• 19:24
  Emeal Zwayne: This happens when you're on your sixth episode of the week and the birds came and devoured them.
• 19:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Some fell in stony places where they did not have much earth, and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth.
• 19:35
  Emeal Zwayne: But when the sun was up they were scorched and because they had no root they whithered away.
• 19:40
  Emeal Zwayne: And some fell among thorns and the thorns sprang up and choked them.
• 19:44
  Emeal Zwayne: But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop, some a hundredfold, some 60, some 30.
• 19:49
  Emeal Zwayne: He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
• 19:53
  Emeal Zwayne: So, so divine timing.
• 20:01
  Emeal Zwayne: So, sower, get it.
• 20:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark, mark, look confused.
• 20:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I'd explain it to you.
• 20:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Too much milk, too much milk.
• 20:09
  Mark Spence: How do you live with yourself?
• 20:10
  Mark Spence: How does Rachel live with you?
• 20:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Gloriously, gloriously and so, yeah.
• 20:15
  Emeal Zwayne: So Jesus gives a parable.
• 20:16
  Emeal Zwayne: And Mark, you gave you, posed a good question.
• 20:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Verse 10 says and the disciples came and said to him why do you speak to them in parables?
• 20:25
  Emeal Zwayne: He answered and said to them because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
• 20:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Whoever has to him, more will be given and he will have abundance, but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
• 20:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Therefore, I speak to them in parables because seeing they do not see, hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
• 20:43
  Emeal Zwayne: And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive.
• 20:50
  Emeal Zwayne: For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
• 20:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Let me just camp there for just a second, guys.
• 20:56
  Emeal Zwayne: That's terrifying.
• 20:57
  Emeal Zwayne: To become dull of hearing, to not be struck with the power of the truth, of God's word.
• 21:05
  Emeal Zwayne: That's, I mean, that's kind of a pandemic.
• 21:08
  Emeal Zwayne: That's, I think, going on in America today, because people, I think, have become inoculated, don't you think, ray?
• 21:15
  Ray Comfort: Oh, john 3.16 has tatted on the forehead of almost every unsafe person.
• 21:19
  Ray Comfort: They just know it back and forth.
• 21:20
  Ray Comfort: You know, jesus died for me.
• 21:22
  Ray Comfort: Don't give me that junk, don't push it down my throat.
• 21:24
  Ray Comfort: I've got my life to live and we have a nation that's kind of inoculated, because the gospel has been preached without the law to make it make sense.
• 21:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, hardness of heart.
• 21:36
  Mark Spence: It's a terrifying thing Just picture all of the people that were around Jesus when he's teaching that.
• 21:41
  Mark Spence: It's like an algebra class where all the students are just kind of nodding and but nobody's understanding what the professor is saying, except for maybe just a few.
• 21:51
  Mark Spence: Well, that's kind of like what's happening here.
• 21:53
  Mark Spence: Yeah Right, jesus is speaking in parables, and without a parable he did not speak to them.
• 21:57
  Mark Spence: It says how crazy is it to hear the word of God, not understand it, and just walk away.
• 22:03
  Mark Spence: Wow, just not caring, just walking away.
• 22:07
  Mark Spence: And then there came a time where it says oh, look, now you're speaking plainly to us, right, he's a well, it's been granted you to understand.
• 22:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you didn't know into here.
• 22:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and you think about the judgment of having heard God's word and rejected it.
• 22:22
  Emeal Zwayne: You know that's wow.
• 22:24
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean people talk today about, oh, I wish I lived in the day of Jesus and I would know for sure.
• 22:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Ah, you're going to keep greater condemnation on yourself if that were the scenario.
• 22:35
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, having heard, having seen and we've talked about it before, just seeing is not believing.
• 22:41
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, the Roman soldiers saw that Christ rose again from the dead.
• 22:46
  Emeal Zwayne: That didn't do anything for them.
• 22:47
  Emeal Zwayne: We can go on and on with examples, but I mean, right, they knew that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead.
• 22:55
  Emeal Zwayne: That didn't change their heart.
• 22:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Now they wanted to kill him.
• 22:56
  Emeal Zwayne: They watched him heal people, but then they were so concerned about the.
• 23:01
  Emeal Zwayne: He violated the Sabbath.
• 23:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Blindness, man, is deep and destructive.
• 23:06
  Oscar Navarro: I also think there's an aspect here that we've talked often on this podcast about the inverted kingdom, the upside down kingdom of Jesus.
• 23:13
  Oscar Navarro: So, if you think about the kingdom of man, it's built by speakers, it's built by people who want to be heard, who are constantly talking, who you know?
• 23:22
  Oscar Navarro: The politicians, the power brokers, the entrepreneurs, the businessmen that can wax wisely and draw people near them.
• 23:30
  Oscar Navarro: God's kingdom is being built by hearers, by listeners by ones that slow down and humbly learn at the feet of their Savior.
• 23:40
  Emeal Zwayne: That's good, oscar.
• 23:41
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, so Jesus gives now the interpretation.
• 23:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean before that, in verse 16, he said but blessed are your eyes for they see and your ears for they hear, for surely I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see and did not see it, and to hear what you hear and did not hear it.
• 23:56
  Ray Comfort: Wow, that doesn't make sense.
• 23:58
  Ray Comfort: If you think Jesus was just a great teacher, you think what is he saying?
• 24:02
  Ray Comfort: Blessed are you?
• 24:04
  Ray Comfort: Because you're looking at me, wow, you know he's either the ultimate egotist or he's God in human form with a lowly heart, as Jesus said of himself.
• 24:13
  Ray Comfort: It's thrilling when you understand who Jesus is and what he said.
• 24:17
  Mark Spence: Boy.
• 24:17
  Mark Spence: It shows you what side of history you're on when you're listening to the parables of Jesus and you're not understanding them.
• 24:23
  Mark Spence: You're on the side of judgment, wow, right.
• 24:26
  Mark Spence: And if you are understanding them, you're on the side of mercy and grace.
• 24:29
  Mark Spence: Yeah.
• 24:30
  Mark Spence: And now hindsight, right, obviously 50-50,.
• 24:33
  Mark Spence: But can you imagine being in that position and then hearing that maybe understanding that and being the disciples and going to us has been granted.
• 24:38
  Mark Spence: Well then, where does that leave the them?
• 24:40
  Mark Spence: Into a place of judgment.
• 24:42
  Mark Spence: Mm-hmm.
• 24:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Terrifying to see Jesus say that and the inference that has made concerning that it's horrifying and you know, I don't know what made me do it yesterday, but the family and I were talking about just drunkenness and stuff and how it affects people.
• 24:59
  Emeal Zwayne: For some reason Richard Nixon came to mind and years ago I had listened to some of the tapes.
• 25:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean he taped himself and, boy, that was his undoing right Because so much incriminating evidence came out.
• 25:11
  Emeal Zwayne: But I went on to, you know, to just listen to something of his and it said some about Nixon talking on the phone, drunk or whatever, but he just blasphemed.
• 25:22
  Emeal Zwayne: It was crazy and I had to shut it off.
• 25:24
  Emeal Zwayne: But he started out by saying to the guy he was talking to did you like the God bless America part?
• 25:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Because he said God like real, sincerely, god bless America.
• 25:34
  Emeal Zwayne: And he goes oh sir, that was so warm and so good.
• 25:37
  Emeal Zwayne: And I'm thinking listen to this.
• 25:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, man, right here, you know just going for it, and then he, and then he goes.
• 25:42
  Emeal Zwayne: I really meant it, I believe it with my whole heart.
• 25:45
  Emeal Zwayne: And then, not like a sentence or two later, he fully blasphemes God, I'm like, oh, I shut it off and I went to something with the JFK.
• 25:55
  Ray Comfort: I'm sorry, easy York, your Nixon was really good.
• 25:59
  Ray Comfort: I am not a crock.
• 26:03
  Emeal Zwayne: It's actually really good.
• 26:04
  Mark Spence: Really, it's shaking your face.
• 26:05
  Mark Spence: I feel prideful now.
• 26:07
  Mark Spence: He looks just like him.
• 26:08
  Mark Spence: I mean his current state Decaying.
• 26:14
  Emeal Zwayne: But then I went on to listen to JFK and I regret it because he blasphemed Jesus.
• 26:21
  Emeal Zwayne: His name meant nothing and I'm just thinking man is there.
• 26:28
  Ray Comfort: JFK.
• 26:28
  Ray Comfort: Jfk blasphemy Like, yeah, just Catholic.
• 26:31
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, what was the tape that you were listening to over there?
• 26:35
  Emeal Zwayne: It was just a phone recordings, Again same thing.
• 26:37
  Ray Comfort: Oh phone recordings Phone recordings.
• 26:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, so private, right?
• 26:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, they're not going to do it in public like that.
• 26:41
  Emeal Zwayne: But again, I was just thinking, man, that terrifying day when you stand in front of God and give account for every time you threw his name around like it was felt.
• 26:53
  Ray Comfort: Look at how quickly he went into eternity.
• 26:56
  Mark Spence: How often do we see that when we're witnessing or talking to someone and we see them, we hear them use God's name in vain.
• 27:02
  Mark Spence: I don't know about you guys, but at that very moment I think of the weight of that.
• 27:06
  Mark Spence: They have no idea that they are storing up the wrath of God that would be revealed on the day of judgment and I think of this very encounter is going to be on that day.
• 27:17
  Mark Spence: Wow, you know, there's not a lot of things where we can say that it's like that, that we encounter, that we see because obviously we don't watch stuff that we shouldn't be watching but those sort of the blasphemy.
• 27:26
  Mark Spence: It slips in out and about as we travel around, as we witness, as we share and just interact with people, and I go, oh boy.
• 27:34
  Ray Comfort: Boy, it's so good to challenge someone and say why is it?
• 27:35
  Ray Comfort: There's only one name throughout history that's been used as a curse word not Mother Teresa, not Mack, not Rasputin.
• 27:43
  Oscar Navarro: Paulian Mark Spence.
• 27:44
  Oscar Navarro: Sorry, I just stuck my toe.
• 27:45
  Ray Comfort: Or Hitler, nobody, only Jesus Christ.
• 27:48
  Ray Comfort: And I ask a non-Christian why?
• 27:49
  Ray Comfort: Why is Jesus Christ's name used so often internationally, not just in our nation but throughout the whole world?
• 27:57
  Ray Comfort: And Jesus told us John 7, 7, the world hates me because I testify of its deeds that they're evil.
• 28:03
  Emeal Zwayne: You know what blasphemy, especially of the name of Christ, I think testifies to me.
• 28:07
  Emeal Zwayne: More than anything, it's the demonic nature of it, because you think about how there are so many things people won't say because of superstition oh, don't say that You're gonna have bad luck or whatever.
• 28:19
  Emeal Zwayne: But they're not even superstitious enough to say, oh, I'm not gonna use the name of God or Jesus because, who knows, who knows?
• 28:25
  Oscar Navarro: You know what I mean.
• 28:26
  Emeal Zwayne: I think it's so demonically infused and there's some people who do it with such gusto Like, and they say the name of the living Son of God.
• 28:34
  Oscar Navarro: It's terrifying.
• 28:36
  Emeal Zwayne: So Jesus gives the definition.
• 28:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Did I read it yet?
• 28:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh no, I haven't.
• 28:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, verse 18.
• 28:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Therefore, hear the parable of the sower.
• 28:44
  Emeal Zwayne: When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart.
• 28:52
  Emeal Zwayne: This is he who received seed by the wayside, but he who received seed on stony places, this is he who hears a word and immediately receives it with joy.
• 29:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while, for in tribulation and persecution arises because of the word.
• 29:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Immediately he stumbles.
• 29:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Now, he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears a word and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word and he becomes unfruitful.
• 29:18
  Emeal Zwayne: But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces some 100 fold, some 60 and some 30.
• 29:28
  Emeal Zwayne: So there we have it, oscar, your thoughts.
• 29:33
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, we have three different kinds of quote-unquote Christians here.
• 29:36
  Oscar Navarro: We've got the conceptual Christian, the cosmetic Christian and the careless Christian.
• 29:40
  Oscar Navarro: The conceptual Christian to start.
• 29:43
  Oscar Navarro: Maybe we can start there and we can go through all three of these individually.
• 29:46
  Oscar Navarro: The conceptual Christian likes Christianity in theory, but they have not had a personal, powerful, transformational experience with the blood of Jesus Christ.
• 29:56
  Oscar Navarro: It has not affected them personally.
• 30:00
  Oscar Navarro: During COVID, when we started meeting as a church we opened up a little early we noticed a trend that there were some new people coming, but these new people were coming into our church personally.
• 30:11
  Oscar Navarro: What we noticed is that they wanted us to spiritualize their political opinions.
• 30:15
  Oscar Navarro: They liked the moral version of Christianity.
• 30:19
  Oscar Navarro: They wanted to give money but they ultimately just wanted to spiritualize, like their moralism or their political positions.
• 30:26
  Oscar Navarro: But when you dug in a little bit you realized that there was no personal conviction.
• 30:31
  Oscar Navarro: It was like every time we preached about sin it was like, oh man, this Bible really knows the sin of those people.
• 30:38
  Oscar Navarro: But they never walked away on a Sunday going man, thank you for pointing me to Christ.
• 30:42
  Oscar Navarro: I needed grace in my life today.
• 30:45
  Oscar Navarro: And so there's the conceptual Christian, the person that likes the idea of Christianity, the way it brings moralism in order to the world.
• 30:56
  Oscar Navarro: But they have not had a personal experience, a transformational experience with the blood of Christ.
• 31:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's true.
• 31:05
  Emeal Zwayne: And I'm thinking back, mark, to all the people that we knew back in the day when we were pastoring.
• 31:14
  Emeal Zwayne: But even before that, in the backyard days, when we had that Bible study and so many seemed so sincere, so legitimate, I mean I would have almost bet my life on them being genuine believers.
• 31:26
  Emeal Zwayne: And then it ends up being evident that they fall in line with what Oscar just shared.
• 31:31
  Mark Spence: Yeah, I remember listening to one of those friends Teach on John 17 several years ago, when he was even in high school, and I remember thinking to myself Wow, what an amazing teaching this is.
• 31:43
  Mark Spence: Yeah, and funny enough, I was on his website yesterday and he is trying to give advice on how to be sexually intimate with your spouse and he has an open relationship when they are allowed to do whatever they want to do, and he talks about dating porn stars.
• 32:01
  Mark Spence: Yes, and this person actually became a pastor at yeah, at one point, and not my church, and he had walked away from that.
• 32:11
  Mark Spence: Yeah and I remember just looking, looking at his website, thinking what happened to you?
• 32:16
  Mark Spence: Yeah, what happened to you.
• 32:18
  Mark Spence: I was just overwhelmed with emotion as I was looking at this pompous Individual who has no regard for anyone or anything other besides himself.
• 32:30
  Mark Spence: Person after person.
• 32:32
  Mark Spence: After person has just fallen away.
• 32:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and, and it seems like those who once professed Christ and then go back to the world.
• 32:42
  Emeal Zwayne: It seems like there are a hundred times worse Than they were before.
• 32:47
  Oscar Navarro: It's almost like they're trying to make up for lost time, or something you know, yeah, and that sort of brings us to the second one, which is the cosmetic Christian.
• 32:55
  Oscar Navarro: Because there are some people and again I'm using that word Christian loosely because they're, you know it appears that they're not actually believers.
• 33:02
  Oscar Navarro: It seems like they receive Christ with joy at the very beginning, like it seems like they have a personal Revelatory moment with the blood of Christ.
• 33:12
  Oscar Navarro: But as life moves on, as they experience pain or suffering, as life doesn't turn out the way they maybe they wanted it to, they begin to abandon God altogether.
• 33:23
  Oscar Navarro: These people, at the beginning they would say they want to be a part of the kingdom of God.
• 33:28
  Oscar Navarro: But if you search their hearts, really what they want is God to be a part of their kingdom, manly kingdom.
• 33:33
  Oscar Navarro: And I love the way dr Keller calls it.
• 33:35
  Oscar Navarro: He says these guys want blessers, not a savior.
• 33:39
  Oscar Navarro: They want a sugar daddy, not a king.
• 33:41
  Oscar Navarro: They want to suffer.
• 33:42
  Oscar Navarro: They are sufferers in need of solution rather than sinners in need of a savior.
• 33:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, that's good.
• 33:49
  Emeal Zwayne: So, ray, you've done some teachings on this parable and, I believe, a job, ray.
• 33:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I believe congratulations, yeah, good guy.
• 33:59
  Mark Spence: Good guy, good guy.
• 34:04
  Emeal Zwayne: This TV show I you know, when we go to the Paris Olympics I want to look for that guy.
• 34:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I bet he's still out.
• 34:12
  Emeal Zwayne: He's still out there.
• 34:14
  Ray Comfort: That's from that television program, season four.
• 34:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Those of you who've heard the podcast for any amount of time, you've heard us talk about Alan.
• 34:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, my name, alan was TV show.
• 34:23
  Emeal Zwayne: So, ray, give us some insight.
• 34:28
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, the the key to the parable so is what Jesus said was disciples, when they didn't understand the parable.
• 34:35
  Ray Comfort: So he says, in verse 13 of one of the instances again, mark for, I think Do you not understand this parable?
• 34:42
  Ray Comfort: How then will you understand all parables, in other words, the parable the sower, which talks about true and false.
• 34:48
  Ray Comfort: Conversion, is the key to unlock the mystery.
• 34:49
  Ray Comfort: All the other parables, the wheat and the tears, true and false.
• 34:52
  Ray Comfort: Foolish virgins and the wise, true and false.
• 34:54
  Ray Comfort: The sheep and the goats, true and false.
• 34:57
  Ray Comfort: The good fish and the bad fish, true and false.
• 34:59
  Ray Comfort: Those who'll be cast out on the day of judgment, who were continued to be workers of iniquity.
• 35:04
  Ray Comfort: Jesus will say I never knew you depart me, worker of iniquity.
• 35:08
  Ray Comfort: And that's why it's so important to use the Lord to bring the knowledge of sin, because if you look at the virtue of the good soil, here are the genuine convert is he that receives the seed, and a good and honest heart Doesn't say that he's good, he receives it.
• 35:23
  Ray Comfort: And a good and honest heart.
• 35:24
  Ray Comfort: In other words, he's honest about his own sinfulness.
• 35:26
  Ray Comfort: And that's why I continually say to people when I witness to them Do you understand?
• 35:30
  Ray Comfort: This is making sense, because I want to know if it's making sense to see if they're receiving it in a good and Honest heart.
• 35:35
  Ray Comfort: They're the ones that receive the word and bring forth fruit, some 60, some 40, some 100 fold the wayside here, as he receives the seed, but because he doesn't value it, he lets the devil take it away.
• 35:48
  Ray Comfort: There's no understanding.
• 35:50
  Ray Comfort: Which is what the law brings by the law is the knowledge of sin.
• 35:53
  Ray Comfort: Paul said I had not known sin.
• 35:55
  Ray Comfort: But by the law, scripture says the law is a school master.
• 35:58
  Ray Comfort: What does a school master do?
• 36:00
  Ray Comfort: It teaches.
• 36:00
  Ray Comfort: It brings knowledge.
• 36:01
  Ray Comfort: A school master to bring us to Christ.
• 36:03
  Ray Comfort: So it's so essential to open up the law as deep as Jesus did and Expound the spiritual nature of the law Lust as adultery, hatred is murder, lying lips and abomination to the Lord.
• 36:15
  Ray Comfort: To bring the knowledge of sin so that the sinner will understand the cross and Value the word that spoke to.
• 36:21
  Ray Comfort: But not let it, did not let the devil take it away.
• 36:23
  Ray Comfort: The stony ground here I see that receives the seed and it goes in, but because it's stony ground in a time of tribulation, temptation and persecution, when the Sun comes out, it withers and dies and that's the only way to tell us someone's a genuine convert.
• 36:39
  Ray Comfort: It's time.
• 36:40
  Ray Comfort: Just let them come under tribulation, temptation, persecution.
• 36:43
  Ray Comfort: Let them go into a lion's den while their fists get of the heavens or they get to their knees.
• 36:46
  Ray Comfort: That's the difference between true and false.
• 36:48
  Ray Comfort: Then there's the thorny ground.
• 36:50
  Ray Comfort: Here he receives the word, but the love of money and riches and the cares of other things overtake him and choke the word why?
• 36:59
  Ray Comfort: because he doesn't value it.
• 37:01
  Ray Comfort: He hasn't understood the value of what we have in Christ.
• 37:04
  Ray Comfort: We don't have a religion.
• 37:05
  Ray Comfort: We have the very source of life Living within us.
• 37:10
  Ray Comfort: We've conquered death, and so I couldn't care less about riches compared to what I have in Christ, and so I value Jesus and I'm gonna hold on to him right through into eternity.
• 37:21
  Oscar Navarro: It's good.
• 37:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know you think through all of those and you can first identify with having Temptations in the past and connection with those you know as believers we all have.
• 37:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, Christ was tempted to worship Satan.
• 37:38
  Emeal Zwayne: You know he was tempted to test God and so you know it's important for us to remember that we can identify.
• 37:45
  Emeal Zwayne: But but, Ray, I like what you said right, we all face tribulation, but which direction are you gonna go?
• 37:52
  Emeal Zwayne: And that's gonna be determined by whether or not you're really regenerated, Whether or not you really are that good soil here, who who's been transformed and converted.
• 38:00
  Emeal Zwayne: It transforms everything.
• 38:02
  Ray Comfort: We don't go from one hero to the other.
• 38:04
  Ray Comfort: You're either one of the heroes or you're not.
• 38:05
  Ray Comfort: If we good soil here You're gonna hold, you're gonna bring forth fruit.
• 38:08
  Ray Comfort: Jesus sent his lambs among walls.
• 38:11
  Ray Comfort: Hmm, why?
• 38:12
  Ray Comfort: Because if they were good soil, they're gonna stay.
• 38:15
  Ray Comfort: He said.
• 38:16
  Ray Comfort: Whoever puts his hand to the plow and looks back isn't fit for the king and the word fit in the Greek as you.
• 38:21
  Ray Comfort: That oh, which means ready for use.
• 38:22
  Ray Comfort: The soil has been turned by the, by the spate of God's law, to receive the seed that's going to bring forth fruit.
• 38:28
  Ray Comfort: So so important to make sure those who hear the gospel Understand what you're talking about, otherwise it's gonna just bounce off them.
• 38:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, mark, before Oscar hits us with that third C, the doctrine of eternal security.
• 38:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I, because I know there's some listening to us now and there's that, that terror.
• 38:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh no, what if I'm?
• 38:49
  Emeal Zwayne: What if I'm one of those you know those here that fell on on any soil besides a good soil, and there is a place where we need to examine ourselves to see.
• 38:59
  Mark Spence: Yeah, Well, listen, by virtue.
• 39:01
  Mark Spence: The fact that you're concerned is a is a great place to be.
• 39:05
  Mark Spence: You know, when Jesus said, depart from your worker of iniquity, I never knew you, he couldn't actually say that if at one point he actually knew you.
• 39:12
  Mark Spence: Right, he's not schizophrenic, right?
• 39:14
  Mark Spence: Amidst of that, he who Jesus saves, he saves to the uttermost and the gutter most, as one person had said, as salvation belongs to him, well then it belongs to him and we're gonna be kept in him.
• 39:25
  Mark Spence: I like the way race says it.
• 39:26
  Mark Spence: Right, it's not once saved, always save, but it's if saved, always saved.
• 39:30
  Mark Spence: You know, are you saved?
• 39:31
  Mark Spence: Examine yourself to see if you are in the faith.
• 39:33
  Mark Spence: And it's better to examine yourself now than on the day of judgment, when you do hear those fearful words depart from you, worker of Iniquity, I never knew you, yeah.
• 39:40
  Mark Spence: So, yeah, the importance of knowing who we are in him brings a sense of a security, but it also leads to eternal security.
• 39:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, amen, yeah, and I want to encourage those listening now who Do have a fear of God, you do believe the gospel, you have seen transformation in your life, you are broken over your sin, that you do cry out to God For forgiveness.
• 40:02
  Emeal Zwayne: I want to encourage you to hold on to the fact that he holds on to you, mm-hmm, that no one will snatch you out of his hand.
• 40:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Nothing will separate you from his love.
• 40:12
  Emeal Zwayne: He has sealed you with the Holy Spirit of promise, and so there is a place for examining.
• 40:17
  Emeal Zwayne: But there has to come a place once you've discovered way.
• 40:19
  Emeal Zwayne: I do fear God, I do love God.
• 40:21
  Emeal Zwayne: It's his doing, and then you need to rest in him, right?
• 40:25
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I think it's important and consoling to examine who it was that Jesus was saying depart from me.
• 40:31
  Ray Comfort: He said depart me you workers of iniquity, mm-hmm, that's those who work lawlessness, also you who practice lawlessness.
• 40:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, practice lawlessness.
• 40:40
  Ray Comfort: So if you call yourself a Christian but you are violating that law, you're committing adultery or lying and stealing and blaspheming you really need to get before the Lord and say I need you to create a clean heart me Because and if you're a Christian that stays away from sin, then you, if you, can take total assurance of your salvation.
• 40:59
  Ray Comfort: God is faithful.
• 41:00
  Ray Comfort: He's able to keep you from falling and present you faultly, present you faultless before the presence of the glory with exceeding joy.
• 41:05
  Ray Comfort: No one will pluck you out of his hand, as he said.
• 41:08
  Oscar Navarro: That's good, yeah, that third one, ray, you alluded to it which is the careless Christian.
• 41:13
  Oscar Navarro: I call it careless because they have a divided heart.
• 41:15
  Oscar Navarro: They think they're.
• 41:17
  Ray Comfort: They're following the kingdom of God sinner would probably be better.
• 41:19
  Oscar Navarro: I like sinner.
• 41:20
  Oscar Navarro: Okay, yeah, I knew you were gonna say something like that.
• 41:23
  Oscar Navarro: They, they have a divided heart.
• 41:25
  Oscar Navarro: Their loyalty is split between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of man.
• 41:29
  Oscar Navarro: They are always anxious and worried because, yeah, they want to worship God, but they also worship their financial security.
• 41:35
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, they want to worship God, but they also worship their moral superiority.
• 41:39
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, they want to worship God, but they also worship their own reputation.
• 41:43
  Oscar Navarro: And the reality about God is that he does not share his throne.
• 41:48
  Oscar Navarro: You cannot be a dual citizen in God's kingdom.
• 41:51
  Oscar Navarro: You are either bowing to God, the Lord of Lords and the King and Kings, or you're bowing to man.
• 41:57
  Oscar Navarro: There's no which way about it.
• 42:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, absolutely yeah.
• 42:02
  Emeal Zwayne: And again, this was not communicated haphazardly, it wasn't communicated whimsically, this was communicated purposefully by Jesus and he explained it.
• 42:16
  Emeal Zwayne: It's, it's one of the few parables that he actually opened up isn't it neat to have the the correct interpretation.
• 42:23
  Ray Comfort: Oh, the best commentary in the world.
• 42:26
  Emeal Zwayne: By God himself.
• 42:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's just wonderful friends and and this should give us Understanding as we observe, things at times can be confusing to us.
• 42:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Wait, why, why is this guy responding this way now?
• 42:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, he seemed to be so on fire for the Lord and he seemed to love God.
• 42:41
  Emeal Zwayne: What's going on?
• 42:42
  Emeal Zwayne: No, I mean crisis is making it clear and and this isn't you know, something that should surprise Christians.
• 42:48
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, jesus talked about the wheat and the tears that you know, the fish that I mean, he gave different parables on this and, ray, you said there's that key of understanding of true and false conversion.
• 42:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah and so.
• 42:59
  Emeal Zwayne: So it's important for us to Understand that and then to recognize that, friends, salvation is of the Lord.
• 43:07
  Emeal Zwayne: We have to, we have to grasp that and we have to know and understand that God saves.
• 43:14
  Emeal Zwayne: And if you are looking to your different Mechanisms as the source for people coming to Christ, that's a scary place to be.
• 43:26
  Emeal Zwayne: We have to have that yearning in our heart to see people saved.
• 43:29
  Emeal Zwayne: But if we get confused and thinking, man, if I, if I just get this right analogy, if I, if I preach with enough passion, if I find this person at the right time, then they're gonna get saved, hey, god can orchestrate through that.
• 43:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, he could give you the right tone, you can give you the right words, you could give you the right illustration, the right scripture to heart and mind.
• 43:52
  Emeal Zwayne: But it's him who saves.
• 43:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, guys, isn't that?
• 43:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Isn't that so refreshing to know these not only just the author, but also the finisher of our faith?
• 44:02
  Ray Comfort: means you can relax in your evangelism.
• 44:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, salvation is of the Lord and and I think people sense that right, if you're, if you're like trying to close a deal and trying to, you know I got to do this versus, hey, I'm at peace.
• 44:16
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, I went out with with a guy not long ago that that I interviewed on our YouTube channel and it was such a joy to sit there with him and just be totally at peace and to be able to say to him I'm not here to earn my salvation.
• 44:30
  Emeal Zwayne: You know that I'm not being paid to sit here with you right now.
• 44:33
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm not trying to earn God's favor.
• 44:35
  Emeal Zwayne: All that is sealed and done for me, good, I love you so good, and I'm here to be a conduit through which God works to divinely reach you.
• 44:44
  Oscar Navarro: It is free and let me say this to anybody who's listening to this and realize that maybe you're one of these seeds that are falling on rocky ground, that are being choked out by weeds and you're afraid.
• 44:53
  Oscar Navarro: You're afraid to to give up on your earthly kingdom endeavors.
• 44:58
  Oscar Navarro: I would point you to Matthew 16, verse 24 to 26, which Jesus says if anyone wants to come with me, he must deny himself, take up his cross and follow me.
• 45:08
  Oscar Navarro: And here it is, for whoever wants to save his life Will lose it, but whoever loses his life because of me will find it.
• 45:16
  Oscar Navarro: The Lord is inviting you into a place of repentance in which you give up your life to get your life and the promise, the power of being able to do that comes when we realize that it's Jesus himself that gives his life up first so that we could have a life.
• 45:35
  Oscar Navarro: Amen.
• 45:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Great word, oscar.
• 45:36
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, there you have it, you've got the parable, you got the interpretation and you got our insanity all Rolled up in one glorious bundle.
• 45:48
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• 46:02
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• 46:07
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• 46:09
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• 46:17
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• 46:28
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• 46:29
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