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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, November 26 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, November. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home Loans
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  Speaker 1: and now the only play caller in Happy our history,
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  Speaker 1: Jack Shack for now at least welcome in Jaguars Happy Hours,
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  Speaker 1: presented by Jet Homel and JP Shadrick, Tony Boselli and
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Plenty of news today.
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  Speaker 1: It's a hey, we got new new coordinator, new quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: What happened? What I miss? All happened and today that's
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  Speaker 1: all that happened to that. And you didn't miss much today?
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  Speaker 1: Anything else? No? No, did you fire talk JP yet? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean he might be part of the problem. I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually I'm a little bit surprised about the firing of
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  Speaker 1: Hackett right now. Um not surprised about the benching Bortles,
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  Speaker 1: even if I don't think it's going to change much,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they needed to do it. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to what we're getting to in the show, of course.
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  Speaker 1: The aftermath of the loss to Buffalo, Hackett relieved of
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  Speaker 1: his duties the offensive coordinator. The change at quarterback Nathaniel
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  Speaker 1: Hackett let go today announced by the team, Scott Milanovitch,
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  Speaker 1: the interim offensive coordinator. Doug Maron had a press conference
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  Speaker 1: this afternoon to explain that. Being said, I I felt
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  Speaker 1: I needed to make a change, you know, to get
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  Speaker 1: us an opportunity to win some games. UM, Scott Milanovitch
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  Speaker 1: will be the play car. Scott has call plays before. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: he's been with us for two years as our quarterback coach,
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  Speaker 1: and I expect him to prepare his team this week
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  Speaker 1: and get ourselves in a position to win games. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Regarding the quarterback position, we're gonna start Cody Kessler um
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  Speaker 1: this week against the Colts. Had a chance to talk
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  Speaker 1: to bout Blake and Cody earlier today and I told him, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I told both those guys the same thing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm making this change to give us an opportunity, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to win a football game. And Cody knows the offense
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  Speaker 1: he's been in um or he's not really prepared that week,
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  Speaker 1: so he'll have a full week of preparation. This head
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  Speaker 1: coach Doug Marone, and he added later that he made
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  Speaker 1: the changes at the same time to jump start the
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  Speaker 1: passing offense for this team. Case just stop there for
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  Speaker 1: a second. We'll come back to that. Okay, Pete, did
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  Speaker 1: you see that? Could you see the video? No? I
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  Speaker 1: did not, Jaguars dot Com. Yes, okay, that was the
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  Speaker 1: most defeated and downcast I've seen Doug Brone, and he
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  Speaker 1: did not look like a confident individual in that press conference.
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  Speaker 1: Hunch downcast, Tony's making words up as we go. Downcast.
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  Speaker 1: That's a real word. Is downcast? Not a word? We'll
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  Speaker 1: look it up. Go ahead, continue your thought. No, not
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  Speaker 1: the way he used its downcast. That means looking downward,
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  Speaker 1: like down, trodden down. Okay, anyway, my point right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we get it. Sorry Pete, Mr academic there, Mr writer,
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  Speaker 1: Mr national guy, you're important with those big words. Anyways.
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  Speaker 1: Um oh, wait, I got we got a ruling. We
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  Speaker 1: got a ruling from Joe. Here we go, give me
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  Speaker 1: a Joe. According to our friends at Webster, yes, it
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  Speaker 1: just means a person looking downward or a person feeling despondent.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Bam, nailed it. What's your point? What's get
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  Speaker 1: the crowd? Let's go get it up here we go,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you very much. What's your point? My
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  Speaker 1: point is you saw it? Um Am? I wrong? I
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  Speaker 1: mean he was usually it's not easy. You just fired
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  Speaker 1: one of your best friends. I'm not saying it's best
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  Speaker 1: best I mean work. They've worked together for years friends,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, JP, and you've worked with me and Tony,
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  Speaker 1: you're not one of my best true, I don't best
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  Speaker 1: friends anyway, they've been together for a long time on staffs.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough. I mean, you know, no, it's tough. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm not downplaying it, but it is the most
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  Speaker 1: downcast and downtrodden and despond it. I've seen Doug Morone
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  Speaker 1: at the podium. He is usually standing up. He's a
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  Speaker 1: big guy and just there's a confidence about him usually.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about it. I think he handles
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  Speaker 1: the media very well. I've not seen him like that.
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  Speaker 1: You could tell his weighing on him. And he did
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  Speaker 1: not look like he enjoyed it and did not come
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  Speaker 1: across real confident about what was going on. And Pete,
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  Speaker 1: this is something that for him at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the year, I think he's safe. I don't know for
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  Speaker 1: a fact, but I think he was asked that directly today.
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  Speaker 1: Have you asked about it? I've been told about your future?
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  Speaker 1: He is like, no, I haven't asked, I haven't been
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  Speaker 1: told or anything. First, you don't fire a guy after
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  Speaker 1: he takes you to the AFC title game. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's the right thing. That you think that's right.
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  Speaker 1: You know what Tony would find I thought, let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this, let me answer this. I fought all along.
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  Speaker 1: I told guys in my building. I said, no, he
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't go. He went to the title game last year.
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  Speaker 1: He should not go. But recent developments have made me
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  Speaker 1: rethink that a little. So you think he should be fired.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying no, I'm not saying at a control team,
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  Speaker 1: the blown assignments, that missed the signmon's the terrible play.
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  Speaker 1: I mean play calling, the style of play, the letting
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  Speaker 1: your running back there, whether you let him or not.
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  Speaker 1: He did it for whatever reason. That wouldn't happen under
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  Speaker 1: some certain coaches. And what wait a second, now, what
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  Speaker 1: certain coaches would that not happen under Belichick? Okay, Belichick's
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  Speaker 1: never had any we kicked out of a game. No,
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  Speaker 1: but but kick out of the game. It's another thing
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  Speaker 1: putting your helmet on and going across the sideline and
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  Speaker 1: getting into it. By the way, I agree with that
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  Speaker 1: so no one in the under Belichick. Doesn't this team
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  Speaker 1: lacked discipline appear lately? It appears that lately. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with that. Okay, So who's ultimately responsible, ultimate head coach? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a fireball offense though, after but
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  Speaker 1: added all up with all the other stuff, and and
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  Speaker 1: that's not even my biggest problem. What's your biggest problem?
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  Speaker 1: The style of what other style do you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: play with the roster they have today? But that's just it.
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  Speaker 1: They built this roster to play that way. Well, basically
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  Speaker 1: they did not the way this organization is set up.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be clear. I mean, I just want to be
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  Speaker 1: clear because it's it's it's common knowledge. Beat I thought
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  Speaker 1: you knew, but I'll make sure of me. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say. But he had no
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  Speaker 1: no say so, no say over the fifty three man
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  Speaker 1: roster or who they draft. I get that. So you
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  Speaker 1: know it's built by Tom and Dave. But market Tom
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  Speaker 1: and Dave are not gonna pick players that they don't
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  Speaker 1: think fits the style of play that he wants. They
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  Speaker 1: drafted Leonard four Nette because they felt that that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: the style of player that Doug Morone wanted. So you
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  Speaker 1: know that that Doug Moron told them they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: draft he wanted to draft Leonard for Nett. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that for a fact. I'm just saying, but just
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  Speaker 1: before you jump into conclusions, I just think you should.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to say this is Doug
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  Speaker 1: this is on Doug alone. No, I'm not saying it's
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  Speaker 1: on Doug alone. I never said that. It's on all
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  Speaker 1: of them. Your style flight at the start of the year,
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  Speaker 1: the style of play was gonna be all right. You
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  Speaker 1: had left tackling Cam Robinson, your confidence, you just brought
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  Speaker 1: JP I just paid center in the league, and Can
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  Speaker 1: coming back for his fourth year contract year, and then Partnell,
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  Speaker 1: a veteran right tackle, and oh yeah, you went and
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  Speaker 1: got to tie it in in free agency too. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what do I always say, And Tony, Tony, what
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  Speaker 1: do I always say? When you play this style of football,
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  Speaker 1: the more margin for air is slim and last Peter,
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  Speaker 1: everything they did went their way. I agree. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with you you and I agree with this point. My
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  Speaker 1: point when I'm trying to communicate, you're saying this is
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  Speaker 1: all on Doug Marrone. What I'm saying, that's just what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's not. It's not what I'm saying. Is
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  Speaker 1: that what he said. I don't think I've heard that.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't say, so I'm not hearing right. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: stay what you're saying, because you made it sound like
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  Speaker 1: this is Doug marone style of play. I think he preferred.
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  Speaker 1: If you if Doug Barrone had Carte blaunched to play
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  Speaker 1: any style of play he wants, what would he style?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna ask him. I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea that's and and judging by history, you would want
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  Speaker 1: to play power football. So Tom Coughlin, who's the tsar
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  Speaker 1: of football, what style play? If you asked Tom Coughlin
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  Speaker 1: he wants to play? He wants to run the ball
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  Speaker 1: and and and have and throw the football over the top.
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly what he want. He played that way
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  Speaker 1: with you guys who wants to run the ball. But
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  Speaker 1: that was defense That was in the nineties, isn't so
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  Speaker 1: are you saying it changed with him? He doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to play that one anymore. Well, if he does, then
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  Speaker 1: he's outdated. Arc Gay blame Dave's to blame, and and
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  Speaker 1: uh Doug morons to blame. All of them are to blame.
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  Speaker 1: I think, so what so what JP PA has done
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  Speaker 1: an awful job this year. J JP first and foremost,
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  Speaker 1: get with the times on offense. I don't care what
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  Speaker 1: you do. They spent a boatload of money on defense
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  Speaker 1: building a defense, right okay? But Pete, can we can we?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not going to even disagree with
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  Speaker 1: you right now. That's not the point, because you'd be
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  Speaker 1: wrong if you did okay, right or wrong. The question
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  Speaker 1: is what can you do now? You can't change what
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  Speaker 1: you spent money on right now? I agree, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying, by the way, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: we can't have the conversation about looking forward at all.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. But I think, for at
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  Speaker 1: least the first set, let's talk about why they fired
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  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett. Why are they made the change? What does
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  Speaker 1: that really produce? What can you fix right now? Nothing?
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  Speaker 1: You fix nothing? You do nothing? What these moves are? Nothing?
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  Speaker 1: They don't What is the thing I don't get that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, are you blaming him for this offense? Which
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  Speaker 1: which coordinator in anywhere is going to call good plays
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  Speaker 1: with what they have on this offense. I agree with
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  Speaker 1: you that got a back. Your back got a back
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  Speaker 1: was overrated who hadn't played. You have a quarterback whose
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  Speaker 1: confidence is shot and he's a shelf himself, and he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't very good to begin with. You have an offensive
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  Speaker 1: line that is down the center, down to left tackles,
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  Speaker 1: down the left guard. Now you have a two tight
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  Speaker 1: ends down the number one receiver even though he wasn't great,
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  Speaker 1: and you were counting on him to be a number
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  Speaker 1: one receiver and he's clearly not that. Nowhere to be found.
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  Speaker 1: Helan Cole has taken about eight steps backwards. He's not
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  Speaker 1: close to what he was a year ago. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of cut a ball. This offense stinks. The offense stinks,
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  Speaker 1: but there's no play caller out there that would be
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  Speaker 1: able to fix this offense. Sorry, So I actually agree
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  Speaker 1: with most of what you're saying there. I've been critical
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  Speaker 1: of some things that Nathaniel Hacket had done, like finally
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  Speaker 1: catch was in London, by the way, Yeah, so London
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  Speaker 1: spent a long time and he had a fumble. He
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  Speaker 1: fumbled that catch back, Mike. I've been critical of Nathaniel Hackett.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't fire him for it. I would have told
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  Speaker 1: him to do it if I was the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: We for the first time since I can remember, we
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  Speaker 1: threw a go route outside when we had one on
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  Speaker 1: one coverage because we get more singleized safety than anybody
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  Speaker 1: in the league has to be. And finally they did it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what happened. We had a jump ball. I
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  Speaker 1: guess what we caught it. It was a big We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that trans get to that in a section,
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  Speaker 1: because that's a whole another story. But my point is
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  Speaker 1: saying that if I was to be critical of Nathaniel,
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  Speaker 1: I think he should have been more aggressive throwing it outside.
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  Speaker 1: Now my guess is his responses. Have you watched our
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  Speaker 1: quarterback throw lately. I mean he threw a slant, a
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  Speaker 1: six yards slant three yards behind the guy end over
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  Speaker 1: ind I've never seen anything like it in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Rogers through one, yet last night there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: like that. I'm not saying it can't happen. I just no. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not defending Bortles. By the way. I think bordles
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  Speaker 1: confidence is shot. He's done. As he played his last
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  Speaker 1: snap in Jacksonville. He's done. His his mind is a mess, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean Pete, I asked you a specific question
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  Speaker 1: as he played his last snap in Jacksonville. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think so. Yes, you can say five million dollars
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  Speaker 1: by getting rid of him. No, no, I think well,
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  Speaker 1: if you wait till June, you can say. But I
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  Speaker 1: think uh ten. But but as it is you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about he's gonna play again this year. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna play this year again. I don't performance or injury
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. I just don't think that Kessler. I think
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  Speaker 1: Kessler's bad. I just don't think it's gonna last. So
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  Speaker 1: we've got that going for us, which is great. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's an sc guy. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: wore the shirt in support of our new quarterback. No,
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  Speaker 1: you wore the shirt because you thought they were gonna
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  Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame the other day, and they almost did,
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  Speaker 1: but they didn't. They didn't fire their head coach, and
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  Speaker 1: I like that they kept our coach. Great. Um, so
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  Speaker 1: I like that too. As a Sun devil. All right.
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  Speaker 1: The other question today in the press conference was Todd
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  Speaker 1: wash defensive coordinator. Was there any consideration of him getting
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  Speaker 1: the act today and Doug Maron said, no, there was
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  Speaker 1: not that the top five defense. Still, you're gonna fire
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  Speaker 1: a coordinator who has a top five defense? Is this
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  Speaker 1: is what we're doing now? That's why I don't I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I'd let it play out and then if
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  Speaker 1: you made a decision to make it the decision after
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  Speaker 1: the season, what's the point of making a decision with
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  Speaker 1: five games to go. I I don't think I would
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  Speaker 1: have fired Dathaniel Hackett. I don't think i'd have done it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's something we don't know. You know, obviously it
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  Speaker 1: had to be hard for Doug. Maybe he was told
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  Speaker 1: to do it. I don't know. I'm not in those
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  Speaker 1: meetings obviously, But I don't know what you gain by it.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe you get maybe you're testing Milanovich for the
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  Speaker 1: five game stretch to see if he can be the coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he's a real innovative play caller. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: anything about it. He came from Canada that I know,
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  Speaker 1: he's up there for a number of years. But if
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna start firing coaches who are have top five
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  Speaker 1: units in the league, I mean, then I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: are we doing. I don't know what we're doing. I
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  Speaker 1: might say toddwash is perfect. I'm not saying there's not
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  Speaker 1: room for improvement. I'm not saying some of the blown
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  Speaker 1: coverages aren't an issue. But really, we're gonna fire a
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  Speaker 1: guy who's the top five unit? Is that what we're doing, Pete?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing this league? Now? We just
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  Speaker 1: fire people? Could you start doing that? By the way,
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  Speaker 1: you get known as an organization that just it's a
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  Speaker 1: revolving door. Well, their fifth in total defense and eight
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  Speaker 1: point Okay, so you're gonna fire a guy who's top
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  Speaker 1: ten of points in fifth in total defense. No, but
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  Speaker 1: they aren't the same defense. I didn't say they were, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody's got to take accountability for that. You fire him? No,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't fire him. But who can shut up? What
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  Speaker 1: are we talking about? Why defense? Everybody's regressed, Tony, nobody's
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  Speaker 1: gotten better? Who's got better on defense? I think we've
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  Speaker 1: had this conversation every week, and now here we are
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  Speaker 1: week six. I mean with five weeks ago, who's gotten better? Nobody?
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  Speaker 1: You you had an interesting thought a moment ago, and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't play this week. But a better Campbell's playing
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  Speaker 1: the run even better this year than he was a
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  Speaker 1: year ago. He's not rushing of the passion. He's still
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  Speaker 1: gonna end up with nine sacks and have like as
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  Speaker 1: many tackle for losses. Not as good as he was
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  Speaker 1: when he was deep as the Player of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: Commy wasn't shut up, Pete. I mean, now you're being ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: You're being ridiculous. Us come back, forget it. We'll come back.
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  Speaker 1: What are we coming back to? What about him and
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  Speaker 1: the fight? We'll come back. That was all of that.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the more ridiculous things I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: And not to fight itself, but how it started stupid.
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  Speaker 1: It's right around the corner. Well, uh, we're often running,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like Pete the Tony Boselli Twitter questions of
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  Speaker 1: by m c u A. Well, we've discussed it obviously,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: one on one, little discussions of private and then we
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: discussed all the personal fouls. You know what I'm saying
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: with the team. Obviously we have twenty two personal fouls
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that leads to league and it's something that you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: stops us from having the opportunity to win football games.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So I d with the team and I addressed it
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: with you know, some players individually. The captain c is
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: voted by the team. Okay, So if the team came
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to me and said they wanted to strip this captaincy,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: then that that's a team's decision, not necessarily just a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: head coaching decision. This head coach Doug Morone discussing Leonard
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: four net and personal fouls in his press conference this afternoon.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, j P. Shatrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Priscoe. Plentymore
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to come on the quarterback change, the offensive coordinator change
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: as well. We've got a lot of time in the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: show tonight. But another big story was the fight and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the ejection and the circumstances surrounding that. Yesterday in Buffalo.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Let's reset the whole thing. The Jackson just got the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: jump all down to the one yard line was called
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. The scrums started. Leonard Fournett runs across the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: field with this helmet on, gets into a fight. Was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: if he wanted to fight with good idea, and then
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it got knocked off pretty quick. And then they get ejected,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the balls ruled on the one yard line for Nett
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and Lawson are arguing going up the tunnel. The Jags,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: meanwhile get Stone at the one, have two penalties mr
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: forty two yard field goal three plays later, a couple
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: more penalties later on defense touchdown bill the other way.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: An unbelievable swing in a span of about five minutes time.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: So um, let me see where I want to start here. Yes,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of places. Let's start with Leonard coming off
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the bench. Let's start with the fact that the play
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: is called and they have a chance to grab momentum.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's it's actually I love the play call. It's a
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: very good throw and catch by Dante Moncrief. It's almost
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: simul simultaneous. You know. Uh, they both had it, we
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: went down, they're fighting for it. And then what proceeds
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: from there is typical after a play like that, you
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: have some yap in some light pushing and shoving. Nothing
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: in my opinion that is going to get out of
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: control where the officials can't get if once the officials
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: have time to get in there, and kind of you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the most egregious is you know, Shack Lawson
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: is saying something that kind of gives a light shove
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to Carlos hide. Out of nowhere, the mask man, the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: captain of the offense, Leonard for That, comes running over
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: off the sideline. Now he was not in the game.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Just to make sure everyone's clear, he was not a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: part of the play. He was not a part of
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the last two plays. We're watching it on Jaguars dot
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: com right now if you want to join us via video,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and and so now we're going back and forth, and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: this is this is very typical pushing shoving. It's nothing big.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And then out of nowhere, Leonard for That, who's not involved,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: runs over, puts his helmet on and throws a punch
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: at shocked Lawson. And you can see immediately the official
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: throws the flag. And if actually Max you rewind that,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: if you can see Shatley put his hands up there
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: like you gotta be kidding me, because he's watching right here.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You see Shatley sixty nine sitting their hands on the hip.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And then as soon as the punches thrown, what are
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: we doing because it just escalates too out of control
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And now punches of thrown by shack Lawson. I was
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: in I was sitting in the booth, and as soon
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: as I saw Leonard run across and throw the punch
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: on my key is ejected. It's automatic, and it is
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and so where does this? Like, how do I feel
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: about this? It's really really selfish and stupid to come
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: off the sideline. I'm actually not gonna get on him
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: about the fight itself. If he were on the sideline,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: if he was in that play and he's involved on
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the field like right there, like like if he's won
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of the eleven and this the push happened. Fine, But
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you know, here's what you know in today's lead because
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: it's an emphasis, and they talked to the players back
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and they talk to the media about it. This is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the first year. Actually New York is watching everything. They
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: can come in and say anything. And if you throw
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: away punch, it's an automatic injection, no matter what. So
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you know that as a player, like back when I played,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you could punch and not get ejected. You can do
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: open and slaps and get away with a lot. Fine.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: So I got in fights, I got fifth in your penalties,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: but I was in the play. I was on the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: field of play, and you kind of knew the boundary
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and you played up to the edge of it and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you went about your business. But to come off the sideline,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: which now I believe suspension comes into play because he
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: might get suspended by the league. John Running is the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: one of the league that that looks over suspensions. There
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: for Running suspended. Should he be suspended, well, I I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: don't think so, but I don't either in today's league
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: he might wasn't Marshawn Lynch suspended for something similar He
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: bumped into official coming off the bench. Two yes, similar,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and so he comes across. It's just selfish. What do
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you You're not in the play, Just stay on the sideline.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? And you know that the rule
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is if you throw a punch, you're thrown out automatically,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: no question, and then you can't get away with it
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: anymore because there's video watching you. You have to know
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that as a player, So push the guy. I don't
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: care if you're in the game. Do you're pushing and shoving, yapping, whatever,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: But you cannot throw a punch. It's changed the game.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: He's the best offensive player they have on an offense
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that can do. You can't throw the ball. The only
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: production they had all day until that one long throw.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Was running the ball every day. It was like watching
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: high school almost. It was like every player was running.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: At one point sixteen has seventeen plays was a run
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: play and after a lot of those plays, guess who's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in the check? Lawson and some of the Bills defenders part.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it matter. I'm just telling you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that was building up to that. That that tells you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that there's a lack of composure. Sometimes you can't do that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: You cannot. He was on the sideline. That's what I understand, Pete,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Where's that? Where's the problem? Start? How do you starts
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: for he coming off the sideline? But how do you
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: how do you stop that being a trend? It seems
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: like a trend for this team. Personal fouls and doing
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: things like this. That's right in the foot of the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: head coach him, Pete, would you find him? Would you
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: give him a contract? Detrimental? Would you would you take
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a bunch of money from him? Can you give him
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: for that? I think so. I think the team. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: think the team can't. That's detrimental. They would have won
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the football game if he stays in. Yes, I would
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: find Okay, let's say you could, but would you take
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the fullest extent of what you could do to hammer
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Leonard for net what for what he did for not
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to only send a message to him, but to send
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a message to the entire team. No, I wouldn't do that,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So you wouldn't. No, so you left the league? I
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: would by the league and then leave it alone. Yes,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: but I would have it. I bring him into my
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: office and have a little bit. Okay, come on, Pete, well,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, who who's that rest with though? Tony? Okay,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: let me ask you this. In your time with Coughlin,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: if that happened with Coughlin, what happened, you would find
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: us and rip us and you were scream at us.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But I think the locker room has to police it
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: some level. Would you as a player, if you were
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: on the team with him, You're that exactly You were
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the left packle on that team in that exact situation happened.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: What does Tony do? I would walk up today and said,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: letter Man, you can't do that. You killed us. I said,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: you cannot do that. Number one, you're a captain, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: number two, you you hurt us as a team. Like
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: if you want to do that on your own thing, dude,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: on your own dime. But now you're talking about my
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: livelihood and like our team, you affect all of us.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: People's jobs are on the line. You can't do that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I would go, I would go have a conversations. I'm like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you can't do it. And what was he gonna do
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: is he gonna go down the tunnel and have a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: fight with that? That was well, that fairness he was
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: kind of he was he he kept his composure there.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It was chef, it was it was. Look, it's an
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: ugly bad situation that just compounds all the other problems
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that this team has had. Right, discipline problems. Whether it's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: bus coverages, that's discipline, whether it's personal fouls, that's discipline.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: So there's a lack of discipline, whether that's from the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: head coach or the policing of the locker room. It's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: not instilled. Here's one thing you get where you get
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a people's attention. You mentioned Bill Belichick before, and he's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: done it. You know what he'd do. He'd bench him,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: cut him, trade him. I mean, like Bill Belichick goes
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: over the over the top. He benched his starting corner,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: probably cost him a super Bowl based on some principle
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that he had or whatever, whatever the reason, malcol Yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it's never I don't know why. But Malcolm Butler did
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: something that Bill Belichick thought went across the line of
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a team rule or the integrity of the team or whatever,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and benched them for the Super Bowl. I mean, so,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: if you really want to get to it, I mean, now,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has a margin of air because he has
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a guy, Tom Brady that overcomes a lot. But he's
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: built up some equity over the youth. But he's always
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: been like that, and he's always been like that. I mean,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: he does not care who you are and what you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: do or anything else. And so Pete, am I wrong
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: about that? No? I mean so he would. My guess
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: is you want to send a message, Leonard, you're suspended.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Here's Leonard for that in the locker room after the game,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: explaining the situation. Loss tourling on me. No, I mean
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: not number one. Uh, just like I mean that's just
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: how I was raised, you know what I mean. Like
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: they're gonna laugh about it, see what they're saying. But
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: your brother again attack you're fighting out. That mean you're
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: gonna have to god that and also protect young you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, Uh, it's a professionally now,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can have that. I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: polity at all the kids out there. We'll look up
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to me, you know, not our fans. But the biggest
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: thing is man. Like I said, this whole this loss
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: toting on me, I take four responsibilities. For the responsibility
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in the locker room. You keep used like this is
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: just what you do or you're not supposed to do it,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: because he said, I'm trying to figure out which one
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: it is. He's protecting his brothers. Okay, how about the brothers?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Like what was he protecting? What it was Carlos hide
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in danger? I don't know. Was it didn't look like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it on TV. I'll tell you that. Maybe I don't
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: want to be a hyprogram because I there was several
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: times during my career like a cheap shot was taken
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: at a receiver or a at our quarterback, and I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: would take a shot back at them. Again, it was
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: a different NFL. That's kind of how it worked. Um,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and you can get away changed, I mean you can
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you can't get away. You could get away with that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: stuff looking back? Was it smart all the time? No,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and so I'm not I don't want I'm not gonna
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: just how it was. The game's not like that anymore.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: So based on the game not being like that anymore,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you can't do it now. If you wanted to go
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: grab him, fine, First of all, you're not on the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: you're not. You're on the bench. Stay on the bench,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: just stay there. But I don't understand what like I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: just I don't think. I mean j P asked this
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a question, Pete. I want your answer. How do you
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: get control of this? If you have em as if
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: you have if you have UM, what'd you say, riss
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the Sigmon's Emmy's Simon's mental airs. That's what we're talking about,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: m E s Well, they can be missed assignments, which
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: would be m A same thing mental aires call not
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you're setting me right. You don't even know what you're
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: talking about. That you have undisciplined play as far as penalties,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: sports un sportsmanlikes and you know, capped with what Leonard did?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, so how do you get a hold of it?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's one school of thought is what you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: do is you start calling folks out in house and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you let everyone know outside of the house, by playing time,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: of who's doing it right and who's not, and you
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: do you do it at the risk of hurting the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: short term. Say he's the best player on offense, he's
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: what you got. So so I'm thinking this through right now,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I haven't thought about this. This is a good question.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to answer that exactly. But if you're
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: looking long term and you're trying to set the culture
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of this team of what you're gonna put up with
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and what you're not, now is the time to do it,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: because you're three and eight. You ain't going anywhere. So
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: at some point you gotta draw a line in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: sand and say, guys, if you cross it, you're not
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: playing for me. And if I get fired, fine, but
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it my way and I'm not gonna stand
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: for undisciplined play. Mr assignments. You're not knowing what the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: heck you're doing. At some point, I mean, what else
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: can you do? You can affect the professional athlete two ways.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: His money and it's playing time, and that is it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: And and a lot of the times the money is minimal,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that doesn't even affect him. Money and playing time. So
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: you would set him down, Tony, you would not play
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: him this week against the Colt. I would. I would
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: think the league doesn't suspend him, and you're Doug Moron,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't play him. It cost you a game? Probably, um,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: because here's the thing that we didn't even get to.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I'm first down. I'm sure I don't know if I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: can figure it out now because Nathan Hack he got fired.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I should call him and just ask him. Uh, Carlos
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Hyde went the wrong way on the play. I watched
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the film like five times. I'm almost positive Carl's Hyde
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: had missed Menelarin went the wrong way and that's why
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I got stuff because everyone else was blocking in a
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: different way. And there's he walks in and so the
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: hold was the hold right on that one play. By
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the way, on the on the touchdown that was called back. Okay,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: there's okay, can we get into that too, well, let's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: come back, come back breakfast. We're all fired up, JP.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Tony's all fired up to that one right there. Bothers
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: me and Sean McDermott should have been should have been
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: penalized on that All Access TV tonight they'll break down
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the Carlos Hide play at the goal line. We're told
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: on Yeah, they're gonna be at Mayport tonight. By the way,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: on that show will come back Crossfire right around the corner.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour in month. I want to get back to
• 34:26
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into crossfire tonight. Though we started off with
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  Speaker 1: the decision process, he was asked about it today head
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  Speaker 1: coach Doug Maron, how is the decision made and what
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  Speaker 1: channels does he have to go through? Here? Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I told them that. You know, this is what my
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  Speaker 1: thought process is. This is not a knee jerk reaction.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I've been thinking about. This is what
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  Speaker 1: aware of it, do you have it? Doug Maroon, what
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  Speaker 1: do you make of that process? The three headed monster
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  Speaker 1: here with Coughlin and Caldwell and and Doug Maron heat
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, I mean they are his boss.
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  Speaker 1: He's gotta but he doesn't have to. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he has to run it by them every time. You
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  Speaker 1: would like to have your head coach have some authority
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  Speaker 1: to make those decisions, unless Tom is the head coach
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  Speaker 1: in in power, which I don't think he is. So look,
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  Speaker 1: that was doug decision, I think, and he made it
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  Speaker 1: and it's his call. And then and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and if they don't agree with it, they'll veto it.
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  Speaker 1: But they didn't vete it, so clearly they were on
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  Speaker 1: board with it. I don't think it's a three headed monster.
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  Speaker 1: It's a one headed monster. Tom Coughlin's is the final
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  Speaker 1: call and everything as far as football overall. Maybe you're
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: blaming Tom for this mess, then hold on, they finished.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about that right now. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: the process of what happened, and I think and then
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  Speaker 1: Doug reports to him. I mean my understanding is unless
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: it's I'm I don't understand. I don't think Doug reports
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  Speaker 1: the Dave. No, Doug reports up to Tom and so
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he went and talked to Tom about it.
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  Speaker 1: He got his buy in. So I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: know where this three headed monster came into. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's a triangle that they all get together and
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  Speaker 1: saying Kumbaya and discussed and come to a consensus. The
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  Speaker 1: triangle we've always discussed with this football leadership. I mean
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: there's there's leadership. Yeah, But my understand let's drafted Bortles
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: by the way. Maybe I'm wrong in the sense of that.
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  Speaker 1: I I understood that Tom's in charge of everything. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: the team is under Doug up to Tom up to
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  Speaker 1: obviously shod, and then Dave is over personnel up to
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  Speaker 1: Tom up to shot. That's how I understood. Maybe I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Tom, Maybe Doug has to go to Dave and
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  Speaker 1: Tom together, no idea now, professional courtesy and working together.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you go share it wouldn't have a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with all parties involved and but my my understanding would
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  Speaker 1: be Tom's the one guy who could veto it if
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  Speaker 1: you didn't want it to happen, Right, That's how I
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  Speaker 1: would understand it. Maybe I'm right, No, I agree with you.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Next question, what is the next move if things do
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: not improve over the next five games? What what do
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you think is gonna improve? J Do you think all
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of a sudden this is if they start. If they
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: win some games, that's improvement, right, So if they win
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: one game, that'd be improvement. Yes, So tell me what
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: kind of improvement you're talking about, because just saying if
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  Speaker 1: they improve, okay, if they win three games, if they
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: win three of the next five, I don't think. I mean,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I think the only thing that possibly changes that Milanovitch
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: probably is given consideration for the offensive quiter next year.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: That is it. If the staff is back. Huh. If
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the entire staff is back, I think it is well,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and I think it's acent if they win three or
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the next five. What if they lose five or five,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I still don't think they make a change of the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: That would be a twelve game losing streak, By the way,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm telling you, JP, what would you think
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: that's when it gets Harry. Now remember it got Harry
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: because of that long losing skit at the end of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that year too. You know, I just don't think the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: first first year of ownership. Yeah, I don't think they
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: fired Doug. I don't think so. Regardless. And by the way, Tony,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting this all on Doug. You know it
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: sounds like you are. No, I'm not, because I think
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: there's been some terrible personnel decisions made terrible. I mean,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: we can go to two years ago when they drafted
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: for net. It should have been mahomes, period, but more Mahomes.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: But I agree Homes is better. But at the time
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was rated higher by most teams. It wasn't
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: rated higher by me. That's all that matters in my book.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: But but I mean, you get it, Tony. So so
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  Speaker 1: that was Tom's call. All, Yeah, he's the final say,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's input from a lot of people,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: but the final put the draft put the name in.
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  Speaker 1: Is Tom Confin's decision. Yes, let me ask you. This
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: was there convincing by guys like Dave and others that
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to try and tell Tom, look, you can we can
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: get by with Bortles for a year and see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take the running back and build it around them,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: because I had heard that Tom actually liked Watson a lot, Pete,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to even speculate, because
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: it's unfair to everyone on that side of the building
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: when I say that side across the hall from where
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I sit. The second. I don't know. I just know this,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and Tom was not enamored with Bortles. Well, I do
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: know that much. I don't know anything at all. I've
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: never actually had conversations specifically with each whether with Dave
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  Speaker 1: or Tom, about this, So I'm not gonna speculate. I
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  Speaker 1: just I'll tell you what I do know. I know
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  Speaker 1: Tom Coffin was hired in two thousand seventeen to come
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  Speaker 1: in here because it was broken overall. Yes, I mean
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: that were broken be a harsh word, but it was
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: not working whatever ever you want to say. And at
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: a press conference that shown sat there and told us
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that Tom Coflin was the that's gonna be a they're
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: gonna work together. But the end of the day, Tom
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Coffin's final say of everything anything to do, remember how
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: it went though it was they asked Tom coflin about
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: He's like, we're gonna make a collective team decision, and
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: then the follow up was Mr Cohn, who makes the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: final decision? That's what I mean, Tom, I mean, listen,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I've been around Tom as a player, and there's no
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: doubt who had final decision making. And in my understanding,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: based on what I heard and I've always heard, is
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: that Tom is the final say, not that he doesn't
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: get input, but it's his decision to make. There's no
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: there's no draw when it comes to personnel. Tom made
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  Speaker 1: that decision. Okay, So all I know is that after
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: looking at all the tape and everything of this team,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: they made a decision collectively, with Tom signing off at
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the end that Blake Portals was the quarterback and they
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: gave me a fifth year guaranteed extension of nineteen and
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a half million dollars and drafted Leonard for NET. That
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: was the decision that was made by Tom Coughlin and
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  Speaker 1: everyone else whoever else had input. Would that be accurate? Correct?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: So now you can now let's not let's be fair,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: because last year nobody was sitting here being overly critical
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: of that decision. We're not gonna sit here and pint
• 45:35
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  Speaker 1: running back. I've never agreed with that. I've said it
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  Speaker 1: before the draft. You and I, you were here here,
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  Speaker 1: I argued with Jeff Loghuman about this. I agree with you, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: You and I've always been on the same page there.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the borders now. We questioned it.
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  Speaker 1: I remember in seventeen when they gave him the fifth year,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: we questioned that they should be drafting the quarterback. We
• 46:02
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  Speaker 1: I thought, right, you're right, you're right, Tony. But to
• 46:20
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• 46:32
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• 46:36
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  Speaker 1: that team? No chat Owens Great? What am I supposed
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: to do with that? I'll just show up on the
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  Speaker 1: team too, or what I mean? He was? He was
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  Speaker 1: a former Cary war player. Remember outstanding information AFC South guys.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a couple of minutes here to break through
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the division. Here the Colts with the last second field goal,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: gotta win over the Dolphins. Andrew Luck three touchdowns, two picks.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: He brought a couple more touchdowns. The Colts have won
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  Speaker 1: five in a row. Pete, what is going on? And
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Andy all of a sudden, Well, Andrew Luck is a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: star and he is exhibit A on the exact opposite
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: of what Jacksonville has. If you have a quarterback, he
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: cures your ills. If you don't, they're all exposed. That's
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the biggest difference between the two teams. I wish I disagreed,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: but I don't. They're coming in here next week. You're
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Cirtain players in this league that make everyone else better.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: He's one of them. There was one play, there was
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: one play late in the game Pete where he got rushed.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: He stepped up and instead of running it like some
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks we know, he threw down the field for like
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a thirty r completion on the sideline and set him
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: up for a field that's correct. I mean they look
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: the guys fantastic. He's a fantastic player, and they're getting better.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Across the board. They're getting better. There you go five
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: in a row. What will the line? Do you think
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: this week? It's put I wonder what the line is already?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: What is it? I'll tell you a second. Keep going,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: j Monday Night football is here. It's the AFC South
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: showdown in Houston. Marcus Mariota and the inconsistent Tennessee Titans
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: started three and four, then they beat Dallas in New England.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Then they lost horribly an Indie. Last week, they'll visit
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson J. J. Watton the streaking first place
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Houston Texans at seven and three. They've won seven in
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: a row. Who you got tonight in Houston? Is Mariotta?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Is he playing? He can't be healthy? Though I think
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I think the Texans, actually I agree with I think
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: they put a number and we're doing this in gonna
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: because he's gonna read it again at the end. That
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't very good. You didn't like it. No, there's no emotion.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: It's a a f C South game. I mean it's rivals.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I mean there has to be passion has to me
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: from the belly is gonna come out, kind of like
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: you read your promo before you got on the air.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: And I won't tell the audience how that sounds. It
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: was good. I wasn't gonna go there. There was no
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you didn't change your You gotta take a breath and
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: pause and give some give some energy into it. Tony
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I I would have felt bad for you just listening
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: to it, and then you blame JP. Speaking of here's
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the FC South Division standing juice in the division. Let's
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: take a look at the standing. Why did you send that.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: We gotta redo it if it's no good my you
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: just said my read was no passion. Saw it was
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  Speaker 1: need some juice of the division. Houston seven and three
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  Speaker 1: D six. There they are right, there's them right there by, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: It's an indie minus three and a half on the road. Really,
• 55:54
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• 56:01
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• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: We get. You know, two players get ejected, one of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: each team. Obviously, umn with ejected for throwing a punch.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: He came over the sideline. You know, Obviously I talked
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: to him as a captain. He can't do that, you know,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: obviously that's something that hurts our team, you know, when
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: we lose probably best offensive player who was playing, you know,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: obviously at a very high level. Head coach Doug Morone
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo after the game yesterday discussing the fight, the ejection,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: welcome back j P Shadrick, Pete Priscos down in South Florida.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is to my left. So we never got
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: back to when we said would we suspend Leondard for
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: nett or not? We forgot We kind of teased it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: and we forgot it. Um Pete, would you suspend him? No?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: So you what would you do to send the message?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Then I'll get you in a second what I would do.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: But what would you do to send the message of
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: this team that the missed assignments and the personal fouls,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: this type of behavior is unacceptable. I'd stand him in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: front of the room, in front of the team meeting
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and tell him you can't do that. Now, go apologize
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: to your teammates and tell him else, stupid you where
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: to do it, and you won't do it again, and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: nor should anybody else in this team do that again.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: And what's the con they do again? And if you
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: do it again, you're getting suspended. The next time, So
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I would do that. I would actually I would actually
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: do something similar to what Pete did, but I would.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: And when the question would I suspend Leonard or for
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Net for this or not, I don't know. If there
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: was a series of events, and I don't know if
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: this is the case knocks done that there where Leonard
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: for Net did not follow the rules or was late
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: or didn't do what he was supposed to do on
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: the team trip or other or travel or whatever, and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: this was just a pattern of behavior, then I would
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: suspend him. If this was a out of character kind
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: of first time face post his mind, then I would
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: do what Pete said and say, guys, this is an act.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: If this happens again, I'm taking a game away. We
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: will not stand for this. And so whether I would
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: suspend Levin for not for that or not would be
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: based on the history which I know as a coach.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: And so if Leonard for that has a history of
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: missing stuff and not following rules, then I suspend him.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: If it's one time deal, I wouldn't. Well, no, you
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: you do here. I don't have a substantiated but I've
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: heard rumblings that he wasn't exactly on time for all
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: his rehab sessions. Again, I'm not gonna comment on stuff
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, Pete, I'm not gonna common things
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know for a fact. I just told you
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: what i'd do. If there was a history of him
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: not following the rules and this was just a continued
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: pattern of a selfish behavior and not helping the team
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and not putting the team first, then I suspend him.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: If it was a one off situation, then I wouldn't. Yeah,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I would suspend him for this.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Even if there was a history of breaking the rules
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: and not being part of the This is a little
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: different than being late for team meetings and stuff. Don't
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you think. I don't. I think all that stuff carries over.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Then based on that, then you you
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: would suspend them. Then, because you would, you would suspend them.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: And the woe is me? You know that gets tiring
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: from me when players come out and say, oh, this
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: is on me. I cost our team. I can't stand it.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: It's too late. It doesn't do anything, doesn't do anything.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Just no kidding, you did, no kid. The portion of
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  Speaker 1: only Doug Marone and that coaching staff knows whether there's
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: a pattern and history. I don't know that because I'm
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: not around. And so I was like, for some rehab
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: sessions over the course of his rehab, would you, based
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: on this suspend him for the week. I'm gonna stay.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna really just be very clear, Pete. I don't
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: know how I can be more clear. No, not, I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: don't know, but let's just say it happened, and I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: probably would, Okay, yeah, I don't know if I would
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: even I just think so. I think here's the thing.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I think miss assignments. You want to know why you
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: miss assignments, you have mental arres. It's because you're not
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: because you're not a pro, you're not doing your work.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I think. I think all the stuff carries overpeat If
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: you're consistently late and undisciplined, that comes up, that shows
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: up on the field. But who lets him get away
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: with it? It's that's the head I mean, that's at
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, I can based on how
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I think everything's apt. Ultimately, the head coach is the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: enforcer of those rules. Correct Now, there might be no
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: issue by the way, I don't know that. Maybe there's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: no issues and it's just a personal fail issue. If
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: that's the case, then you have to sit everyone down
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: and say, guys, listen, I'm done with this. If it's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: a if it's a if it's a defensives receiver type
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: of deal, like the part of the play. But if
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get stupid post penalty fighting, you just just
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: your done. Just go come sitting next to me. You're
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: done for the game. By the way, Tony Dancing with
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: the Stars called because you're doing a great job of
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: dancing around the whole issue right there. How might dancing around?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I think I've been very clear. How Pete, you've heard
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: the same things about the rehab, Pete, I just told you.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go based on what I know. I don't
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: know anything for a fact, and either do you. We
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: hear a lot of things. I hear a lot of
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: things about a lot of people around this league. I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: don't I know much less like this play we're showing
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: in goquack getting the face back. I'm not calling them.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be no, that's nothing. That's hard my heart.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Go grab the guys. He's playing hard. The bust in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the second ay of the ones that would concern me.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: The other thing, like the mental airs, I would start
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: having a problem with. Yeah, they're clearly not going home
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: and spend the time in the book. Mhmm. Well, let's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: let's be real about Okay, the two safeties are both
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: gone next year, you're playing their last five. They're playing
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: their last five games in Jacksonville. But that's not but
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: not not because of how they're playing money and and
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: they're not playing great. I think is playing pretty good.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I think they're just okay, both of them, they're just okay.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Let's get back on the quarterback train here for a minute.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: You know that that was obviously the move today Cody
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Kesler was gonna start this week and beyond for the Jaguars.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Did did they wait? Yeah? I watched them on Saturday.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Should they have made this move earlier? Or is this
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: the right time? Pete? No, I don't think it matters.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I mean, well, here's the question. Is
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Cody Kesler taking you to the playoffs and winning the
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? No? The way this team is okay, Okay,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask this question because Mike Florio tweeted this
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: out and I, uh, the Jaguars passed on Kirk Cousins,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Case Keenum, Teddy Bridgewater Da da Da da da. Which
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks A is taking this team to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: the postseason and every one of them is struggling right
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: now to get their own damn teams into the postseason?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Um case Keen M. Yes, Well, Bridgewater doesn't have a chance,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: so that's not fair. And Cousins is putting up really
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: good numbers. Though. Are the Vikings better now than they
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: were a year ago when they had case Keenum? I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: don't think that's a fair thing, Pete, because they're they're
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: playing better defense last year too. That's a secondary that's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: getting exposed at times. I watched it firsthand, and so
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: you can't because it's like that's where I think people
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: also get a little bit out of whack comparing one
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: team to the next team year over year because things change. Okay,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: but you know, Kirk Cousins, would he have this? What
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: what would the record be if Kirk Cousins was a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: quarterback in Jackson right now the exact same situation that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: played out with this run game. I think they're seven
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: and uh, there's seven and four. Oh, I don't. I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: do seven and four? Mm hmm, I don't. I just
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: don't think. I think. But here's the team. What do
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: you make it? Who's he making better on the outside?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, what you got beat? You're missing my point.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Part of the reason this team is not winning, I'm
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: not it's I don't think it's just Blake. It's the court,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: it's the head. The coaching staff has zero confidence in them,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: so they don't call a game where the quarterback can
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: make go do anything. When you run the ball sixteen
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: out of seventeen times, Pete, Come on, who does that?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Today's league? So are they going to change the coordinator
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: and now they're gonna change the way they Possibly? I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, but that's why I'm saying. I think they
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: would trust Kirk Cousins more and the game would be
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: called much different. And with the running game, I think
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, teams can't play single eyed
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: safety all the time because you can throw the ball
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: and you can do things in the past game. I
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: get it. I get it. If you have a better quarterback,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: it's gonna open things up. I still think their philosophy
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: is is my point. Is. I think the philosophy changes
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins there. I think part we heard you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: would have been all in on spending ninety million to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: go and say that you just asked me what the
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: record right? Because I'm hearing all this. Bridgewater was coming
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: off an injury that rendered him almost you know, a
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: guy that was never gonna listen. I don't think there're
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  Speaker 1: discussing the ejection of Fleinnard for net that was in
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• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you very much. What are
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  Speaker 1: we doing now? JP? Tony was Selly Twitter Questions of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: the night, and we've got plenty to choose from. Have
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: we got rid of the PFF segment which is guess
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: everybody's got red grades? Did anyone have a green grade
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: before we go there? Yeah? Defense, I'll give you the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: quick defensive grades. Calias Green, Telvin Smith Green, disagree that
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Gibson Green, David Brian Technique, Yeah, and and he got
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: a green and run defense? Tony, would you say yes, wow,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: look at you. I don't see how I don't see
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: how Tlvin got it. But I think Kelvin's been in
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: the in the red all year. To be honest with you,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: would you agree? I don't think. I think he's just
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: not Yeah, what has happened to him? I don't know?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, but is it? Is it mental? Is it physical?
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: What would you say? I really don't. It's just not
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: the same guy. But offensively, um, the only green was
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: for net that was before he should he should be
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: a minus, A huge negative for getting kicked out real
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: quick run run game, Um, Tony, no pass blocking. They
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: gave Parnell a positive grade, and they gave Flowers a
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: positive game in the run game, but they gave him
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: a giant minus in the past. Protection. Yeah, he didn't
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: pass protect very well. I would have given Parnell a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: green all the way around. Let me ask this part.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I was playing good lately. By the way, Flowers isn't
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: bad in the run game? Right? Yeah? He could he guard?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Should he be a guard? He doesn't bend his knees
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: very well. He's actually playing better than I thought he
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: was going to. I'll give him credit. Can we proceed
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: to the Tony questions? I got the first one to know.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I do want to say Eric Flowers because I killed him,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: But he's playing better than I. I killed the signing.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a good idea. Remember this,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Logs was right. Logs was for it. He is. He
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: is playing good. He's not killing you. You had to
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: sign somebody, and he was the one available at deal time.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: B as the first question tonight, what happened? Did we
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: miss our window? Why don't I see that question? That's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: what I'm just to answer the question. That's why I
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: read it to you. One. Did they miss the window? Um?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Did they missed the window? The window was raj There
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: was never a window. You have a window when you
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback didn't have a window? Wow, I thought
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the window. I don't. The window is cracks though. Really yes, Well,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to tear the team to shreds
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: in the off season, now, I don't think. I don't
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to get rid of some keepy
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I I disagree with that. H Did you looked at
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: their cap situation? Yeah, I've looked at their cap situation. Well,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to get rid of about five guys,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: six guys easy, Okay, A lot of changes. I'll go
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: down some questions here. Um, get can the Jags run
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: the wing? T No? No, any chance Bordos restructures his
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: contract to be made more favorable for either a trade
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: or staying as a backup. Why would you want to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: do that? Make him? Caught him and get your cash? Um,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: how is Leon Jacob's playing? I don't care guying Jacobs.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna have a nice career, but this
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: is not the day for that. I don't care today
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: he plays like five plays a game. Um. Oh yeah,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: he's a nice guy. I hope he flourishes into a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: great player. M Is it fair to blame all of
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: the offensive woes at Hackett Store with the injuries that
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: uh that the team has suffered? Um? No, I don't
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: think it is fair to blame everything on Hackett. I
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of things that go into it.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: I think injuries are part of it. I don't think
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: you can make injuries as an excuse. Um. And I'm
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: not saying Nathaniel Hackett did, but he did mention it
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: last week. He brought up injuries. I think that's a
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: dangerous thing to do as a coach. I would never
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: bring up injuries. They are what they are. People know
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: what happens. Um, everyone's dealing with it. You gotta go
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: fight through it. Uh so, But no, I think it's
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: the offensive performance is not all Nathaniel Hackett's fault. He is.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: He is the guy that they're gonna put out there
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: and and put it on him. Full complement of players
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: all year long. How much better is the offense? No
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: one gets hurt? Yep, same exact offense. Nobody gets hurt.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: You know they have, uh how many more wins do
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: they have? Two? Three? Two? I mean, look at they
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: had their full I mean they were basically healthy in
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Kansas City. They got killed. Well, they were healthy in
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: New York and didn't do much offensive. They played bad
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: in New York. Alright, maybe two or three too. Maybe
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: they're five and six or yeah, or maybe yeah, probably
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: five and six, five and six, um, but not the
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: thirteen and three. That's some idiot picked him. Ye tell
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: me why four Nette was chosen as a calf nt
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: of this team. He was voted to the way the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Jaguars do it, the players vote. Do you like that,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: you like players voting or you think coaches picking is better?
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Coaches picking is better. How do you think of it?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I think you should let the players vote and then
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: if you're a coach you don't like who they vote
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: for you, you changed. Tom used to do it. It
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: was a week to week, wasn't It was week to week. Yeah,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I don't mind that either. I don't either. I was
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I was week the week one year. Though. It was funny.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: I was the captain every week and everyone else changed.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: But you were kind of you were kind of like
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: the guys you happy about that. It was just funny
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: to be what do you have? One offensive captain, one
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: defensive captain, one special team's captain? I can't remember. And
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: the best was no, was never a captain because they
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: had they had a rift. You can go back and
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: read it. Uh, logan f logan, f ass. Can Kessler
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: keep up with Andrew Luck? No, that's an easy one.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Edward check it in the Great Edward Er. Do I
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: prefer to discuss Bortles, benching or for Net's ejection? I
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: said both. Uh. Do you see a trade from Malik
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Jackson in the off season? You know, I think he's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: gonna get cut because the salary cap issues. So there's
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: one um Tony how reckless is the front office were
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: waiting to make a move at quarterback until their playoff
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: chances were completely dead. Um, I think if you were
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: going to be critical of the timing of the quarterback,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: you go back to two years ago at sixteen. I mean,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Pete and I've talked about that. Or yeah, because you
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: had to last year, you through it after what happened.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: That's what I think. Um, why are you so angry?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Brett Green, the video guy for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ass,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because you both work for franchises that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: aren't very good right now? Wow, in your opinion, Cody
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Kessler lead the Jaguars to two or three Super Bowl rings? No?
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Or is that me just being conservative? My answer was possibly,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I got one. Why is it called happy hour? We
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: need to for one drinks in these two hours? That's why. Um,
• 1:24:17
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• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: he's good. Yeah, he played like a year. They they
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: rolled three quarterbacks every year there he was. He was
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: the third round draft pick. Um, Okay, do you agree
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: that Tebow could come in and fix everything for the season,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: including retroactively changing our record? No? It was a guy
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: was joking. By the way, why do you why do
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: we do this to ourselves because we just like paint
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Tebow as a passer makes borders look like Marino. Really,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: that's all the ones I got. Really there, you have
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: it totally Misselly. Twitter questions of the night are in
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: should they have drafted Lamar Jackson? Is that a question? Yeah?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: For me? Um wow, that's a good one. Yes. I
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: would have drafted the quarterback this draft. We talked about
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: it actually in the show, that you draft a quarterback
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: in the first cup around. Sometimes I draft a quarterback
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: every year. You say that, But you can't do that
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: and don't have to be in the first or second
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: or third round, but you can get grand one in
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: the sixth if you have one, you'd take them. Okay,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: let's let's play it forward. Now you're gonna have to
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: draft one next year. You have to. It's gotta be high. Pete,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I got one for you. Do we have time? Signed Pete?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Someone told me or it was Dan Hickins, so maybe
• 1:25:46
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• 1:25:48
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• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: he said. Peter King floated this. I don't know if
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: it's true. Would you trade uh first and A four
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford got a big contract, man, but he's
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: only thirty He realized he's only thirty years. He's gonna
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: be thirty one this year. Yeah, the first, this year's
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: first and a four. Yeah. I consider that for sure.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: But the problem is because contract well, I mean it's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: you have to cut a bunch of people. It's right,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: it's thirty million, right, Well you cup ortals and save five.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: There's five of them? Are you wait till June and
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: cut him? You save ten? I think, Okay, how many
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: playoffs when you're gonna make the deal. You gotta make
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: the deal for Stafford before you can cut him in
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You probably could restructure Stafford's
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: deal to lower the cap number. Stafford has actually one,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: absolutely zero playoff games. Okay, No, I'm with you. I
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: said the same I said the same thing, j P.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Because I'm not convinced I would do it, because I
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: in for instance, I was at the Detroit Chicago game
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: of this Thanksgiving damning it and watching Stafford and uh,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Chase Daniels. There was who are you talking to, Pete?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Who are you making Who are you making faces at?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: My wife? She said, you know nothing about football, this
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Selley more than you get a headset Forte. No, but
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: but Pete, watching that game, if you would have said,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: just that game, it's dangerous to do this with one game.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like Stafford was you know, you said, oh,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: he's the franchise guy, Chase Daniels the backup. Yeah, but
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: his receivers don't win at all. Well, Golladay is a
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: pretty damn good player, but he didn't win. It don't
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: win and then you got and then you got. His
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: offensive line is awful. Come on, Tony and no carry
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: on Johnson Like, okay, okay, how many playoff wins does
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: he want? Zero? Right? Zero? If you're they also average
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns? I think in questions, if you're a franchise
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: difference making, uh quarterback, don't you win at least one
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: playoff game? Sometime you would think, but what is winning
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: a playoff game? Blake Bortles is one too, What does
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: that matter? He's difference maker? I mean it's the quarterback.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Winds might be one of the most misleading stats out there.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: You would take Stafford over Bortles any day of the week. Correct. Okay, Well,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Bortles has two playoff wins, and you're killing Stafford for
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: killing Stafford. I think Stafford's a better quarterback than Bortles.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. Say, would you give up the
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: first and fourth? Would you give up a first and fourth?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: And be sour cap Hamstrong? Somebody asked me if I
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: would give up Jalen Ramsey for Matt Stafford, stop it,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: stop it, la week. I would consider for for a
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: guy I think Stafford's better than people give him credit for.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: By the way, would you okay, here's one. Would you
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: trade first and the fourth to get Rivers? No? Rivers
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: is old, right, I mean seven thirty eight years old?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Who's pretty good day yesterday at the office? By the way,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: for no, I agree, but I think I mean how
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: many of year he's gonna do it? For? Two more years?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: You need? But first and four for that? No? So
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: who would you do? So? Okay, you're trying to solve
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Where you solving it at that? I
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: would consider the first and four for Stafford. I'm just saying.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a no brainer like you. The
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: only the only thing about the first and the four
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: now is that first is going to be a top
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: ten pick now. But if there's no quarterback to pick
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: out there, what does it mean? I know, let's come back.
• 1:29:36
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• 1:29:40
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• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: is there what quarterbacks out there? Pete? Would you trade
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey four? Oh, we'll get to that when we return.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the good thing about you know, the world
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  Speaker 1: we live in hands everybody can have an opinion. Um
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  Speaker 1: and um, you know I stink by my opinions usually.
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  Speaker 1: Um yeah, just with his feet, he did enough for
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: the team to GETNA win. I mean, that's really what
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  Speaker 1: matters at the end of the day. Uh So it
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter you know what I said it or anything
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: like that. And I'm sure that's what he was thinking
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: on this on his side. It doesn't matter about opinions.
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  Speaker 1: Every day they can have opinions but it's about what
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: you go out there and do and what he went
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: out there and different. Their team was to get a win,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: so you can't really say anything about it. There's Jalen
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Ramsey in the locker room. Uh. The question was do
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: you still think he's trash? And that was the answer. Um,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: whether that's the answer or not, J P. Shadrick Tony,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: I'll say this. Watching the tape, I was not a
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: fan of him. I thought he was one look run
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable in the pocket. Watching him live, he's still a
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: one look guy. He doesn't see it really well yet,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: which but what he has so you can teach that.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: I think you can teach him progression everything. But what
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: he has what you can't teach is he has courage.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: He will sitting there in the face of pressure and
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: fire babies as he's getting hit. The long touchdown to Foster,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: he got rock Oh, he got rocked and that was
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: a great throw. He threw another one and where he
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: got hit in the middle of the field that should
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: have been caught. Look, he's tough, he plays with he's physical,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: He'll stand in there and he can run and he's
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: going to be a good quarterback or what you're right, Tony.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: The progressions he's look he played in Wyoming. The progressions
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: aren't there. He'll get to him. And he hasn't played
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: much this year, let's be honest about But I mean,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: the shot in the middle of the field, the foster was,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a big time throw. But I
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: get I'm gonna give Jayalen Ramsey some credit here. He
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: ripped the kid. He shredded the kid all in the
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: off season. He shredded him on Twitter a couple of
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: different ways, and as soon as the game was over,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: he went over and shook his hand, And that to
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: me tells me, even though he didn't stand there and
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: say it in the post game, that tells me he
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: came away from that a little more impressed with that
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: kid than than than he previously thought. That's what I
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: saw from that. You agree? I agree with that? Yeah?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: I agree, because I mean it seems like the kind
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: of guy Jalen if he earns if you earn respect,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: then he'll go kind of give it to you, you
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: know in his eyes. Whatever that is. Let's go over
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: when I asked Pete, what quarterbacks would you trade Jalen
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Ramsey for today? Uh, Aaron Rodgers, But so we're trading
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey again hypothetically. No, it's the question is I
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: wouldn't trade Jalen Ramsey except for like, for like a
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: handful of players. Like if if Green Bay called right
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: now and said, we'll give you Aaron Rodgers straight up
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: for uh, for Jalen rams of course, what are you
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: gonna do? All right? Um? Patrick Mahomes, Well, you could
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: have drafted him. But I'm saying right now, i'd swap
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Derek Goff. I don't know if I did Jared Goff,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: but okay, I would. Um, Russell Wilson, you would you
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: do that? Pete? I probably do Stafford to do Wilson, Pete,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Look, I wouldn't do Drew Brees because I
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna play that much longer. I wouldn't.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: I would Uh, she wouldn't take passing for two years? Rivers? No,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Um Brady no, uh, my Homes probably yes, definitely, you'd
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: you'd raise the card up there? Would you do it
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: for wentz Oh Gosh? I said, yeah, Andrew Luck Yeah.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: My point is I would not, That's what you said.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, though, Pete, I might Russell Wilson too, He's
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: a brilliant player. You wouldn't do it for Watson. I
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not sold on him yet, Pete. My
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: point is saying this is I'm not looking to trade
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Jone Ramsey, nor should you be. No. No, he's he's
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: the best player. He's the best corner ear in the
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: league in my opinion. Now he has lapses this year
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: that bothered me at times, but he's the best quarter
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: in the league. My point of saying this, doing this exercise,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: that's how valuable the quarterback is. Like you could be
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: the seventh best quarterback in this league, and if you're
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: a young guy, you're more important than the best at
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: any other position. Right, And if you were trading Mahomes,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: the Jaguards would have to load up. If there was
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: actually a deal out there, it would be Jalen Ramsey
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: plus picks and stuff to get him. No, that's my point.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think about that, so, like, give me
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: the best, give me the best non quarterback player in
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: this league. Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald, if you would you
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: trade Patrick Mahomes for Aaron Donald? What if I'm the Chiefs?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Hell No, I wouldn't trade Jared Golfer Aaron That's my point.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Would you trade Russell Wilson for Aaron Donald? No? No,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: that's so my point. What I'm trying to get to
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: is that's how port that because it is you got
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: you have to get it right, which is why you
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: draft one or two every year. So with that quarterbacks
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: every year quarterback, I mean you take one late or
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: you know, Tom don't. Tom Brady was a six round.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: You bring one in every two every year. So I
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: want to bring one in. What is Tampa doing with Jamis?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Did they give him his fifth year? Uh? They did,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: but there's talk about tearing it up. They can revoke
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: it because of the suspension, right right right? Would you
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: would you go after him? Would you take him me too?
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: You would? Yes? Even when all the off the field stuff.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: He's better than all that, He's better than Bridgewater, He's
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: better than um. I'd be worried about that. Even his
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: track record off the field. I mean that's concerning. Don't
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: get me wrong. You don't like that to be your
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: face of your franchise. But you know, sometimes people change,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: you hope and to think he would change, right, I'll
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: say this I would take a prove it deal with him, right,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pay. I'm not gonna pay. I give
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: improve it money. I actually say, you know, improve it money.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: But you take him before Bridgewater? Uh yeah, so yeah,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: I think. So the problem is, like Winston is not
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: a no brainer for me, like it's a hesitation, yes,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: of course, but it's also not a no brainer for Bridgewater. Guys.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: Bridgewater is a hesitation yes to me too. So okay,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: so where do you solve it? That's why, I mean,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: that's why maybe you do trade your first and something
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: for Stafford. But if you're the Lions, why are you
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: getting rid of Stafford? Because I don't think he's a
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia guy. Hmm. I don't think there are a
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: lot of guys that are Matt Patricia. I don't need
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: I mean you here, you know what? He reminds me
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: of Tony Coughlin's first year in Jacksonville. Yeah, is there
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: any chance he's gone in Detroit? No? No, no, no,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: only if they get a you know, the jag Wars
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: would have to have a top five pick for them
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: to do it. No, I'm talking about Patricia. Oh no,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: not this year. That's that's Bob Quinn's guy. Yeah, there's
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: no way, but then they might if they both lose
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: next year, they might both get Yeah that's next year,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: all right, But here's one for you. Let's just say, okay,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: we haven't solved the quarterback because because the draft is terrible,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: is there anyone in the draft that's worth of day?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, have you watched the Oregon Everybody loves the
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: kid from Oregon. Every time I watched him play, doesn't
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: it doesn't look that great? How about a couple of
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: times he's a gun slinger and I don't know about
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: it already a big arm. How about the kid from
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Duke I haven't seen one snap and then I mean
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: he takes a beating. He takes a beating. He's a
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: tough kid, but he takes a beating. And what about
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: the kid from West Virginia, the old Florida kid. But
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: I mean they just take a snap, they go back
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: and then he throws it forty yards down the field
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: and hopes a guy runs underneath. Patrick did by the
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: way to Texas, tex usually open. Usually he's wide open.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: But fairness, that's what the Patrick Mahomes did. They're not
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: first round they're not. I don't think any of those
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: guys are first round for me. I'm intrigued by the
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: guy A Duke. I haven't done a lot of work
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: on him. Intrigued by Greer Locke is a gun slinger.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: He plays with that mentality. But remember the last quarterback
• 1:42:29
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• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: and we know how that worked out. Um and then
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: the kid at Oregons. I don't know. It's not a
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: good quarterback class. It just isn't. It's a bad year
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: to have a high draft. Pick two is the year
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: after that, right, right, right, he's the year after that tall,
• 1:42:47
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• 1:42:49
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• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: six ft? Yeah, I doubt that, though I bet hope
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: coming shorter in it. Well, that's that's a concern. How
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: talls Drew Greece, six Bakers, Baker Mayfield, he's playing well
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: six ft. If you can throw it on a dime,
• 1:43:06
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• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: or not as tall. Well, the way the game is
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: played now, you can be He used to not be
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: able to pass away, but it's spread out now. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: it's not like if the Jaguar is going to change philosophy,
• 1:43:17
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• 1:43:20
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League Sunday's games. Lamar Jackson touchdown passing
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  Speaker 1: Jackson show continues pe Yeah, I mean, look, he can
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  Speaker 1: long way to go to get there. The interesting thing
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  Speaker 1: they will and they should. Um but yeah, two picks
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  Speaker 1: and and look who they beat? They beat The Bengals
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  Speaker 1: are terrible on defense and Raiders are terrible on defense.
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  Speaker 1: And ask yourself this question, would Joe Flacco have won
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  Speaker 1: both those games? Answers yes, hmm. If they stick with
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's Flacco out there, I don't think they can
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  Speaker 1: get rid of him. I think Flacco has to be
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  Speaker 1: a cap number from that mistaken gone. Next year he's gone.
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  Speaker 1: He can get Next year they get ND. Yeah, would
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  Speaker 1: you take him? You would? I would? You wouldn't take him?
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm mm hmm. I don't know, stop gap, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to. I mean you can get him as
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  Speaker 1: if you get get him in the draft one. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: is he better than Bortals? Yes? Over the band? But
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: what would you say? How would you say it? Well?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Tony was selling Sunshine Pumper. Maybe some days
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  Speaker 1: most days And stop stop. Seahawks over the Panthers seven.
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson couple of touchdowns, Janikowski Sea Bass hit the
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  Speaker 1: thirty one yarder to win it. Peter bad loss for
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  Speaker 1: that game, Tony. They've given up thirty six points in
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  Speaker 1: the last an average and thirties points. I think in
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  Speaker 1: the last three games. They gave one up to the Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: then they gave a bunch to the to the Lions,
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  Speaker 1: twenty to the Lions, and then what third was it
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  Speaker 1: thirty yesterday? It's not It's not a good look for them,
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  Speaker 1: and they're in trouble. They gotta get it. That was
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  Speaker 1: almost like, I think Seattle is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: playoff team. I think they're in their schedule, says so
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  Speaker 1: And I think they were. They got four or five
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  Speaker 1: at home and the schedules soft. The gonna a playoff team.
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  Speaker 1: Pete's done a good job. Some people wanted him out
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  Speaker 1: of there, Pete Carroll, and he was right. He rebuilt
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  Speaker 1: it and now they got, you know, the quarterbacks a
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  Speaker 1: good player. The Browns over the Bengals thirty five twenty
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  Speaker 1: Baker Midfield had four touchdown passes. Didn't have much to
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  Speaker 1: say that, Hugh Jackson after the game Pete in the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I'm not a real big fan
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  Speaker 1: of that. Go the man drafted you go shake his
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  Speaker 1: hand and shook his hand. Yeah, damn, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: want if he didn't go for the whole bro hug
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  Speaker 1: thing that but your head coach did not went to
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  Speaker 1: the division rival. Yeah, you you would have been mad
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  Speaker 1: at him too, even if you even if you liked
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  Speaker 1: him when you played there. He clearly didn't like him
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  Speaker 1: when he was there. I don't think you liked him.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'd have said, hello, I've been professional,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe if I liked them, I would have been professional.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you. Maybe catch up after the season.
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  Speaker 1: If I didn't like to him, I'd give him a
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  Speaker 1: fake tap and kept on going. Well they did, that's
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  Speaker 1: what He basically shook his hand and then kind of
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  Speaker 1: stayed away from him and walked off. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he likes him. What did you think of the
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  Speaker 1: Mary's randall given the pick to him? Was that was awesome?
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  Speaker 1: Was that a did he do like to be nice
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  Speaker 1: or do you do it to, like, say, throw shade
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  Speaker 1: on him. It didn't look shady, but it looked, but
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  Speaker 1: it obviously it was. And you Jackson kind of patted
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  Speaker 1: him on the helmet. Did you see it? Someone? So,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see the play. And someone said he could
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  Speaker 1: have run for a touchdown. Possibly he could have gotten
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  Speaker 1: maybe not a touch that, but he could have gotten
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  Speaker 1: many more yards. Yeah, it's totally shane if he had
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  Speaker 1: more yardage out there. Come on, I don't like jack
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  Speaker 1: You know you Jackson. If you Jackson really wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get angry, he would have thrown that guy to the
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  Speaker 1: ground and given him a beat And you Jackson is
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  Speaker 1: a tough guy from Los Angeles. He would have given
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  Speaker 1: him a beat down. A few more games here before
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  Speaker 1: he gets you out of here. Pete. Patriots over the
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  Speaker 1: Jets Michelle with a big game on the ground. The
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  Speaker 1: Eagles hundred seventy yards. I mean they ran the football
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  Speaker 1: and uh and Gronk was back. They hit him down
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  Speaker 1: the scene. They're gonna be Look, do not worry about
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  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. It will be just fine. Come
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  Speaker 1: January're gonna get home Feldmeld home field for them. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that. I mean they gotta hope, like heck
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  Speaker 1: that the Chargers can win a couple of games against
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  Speaker 1: or at least beat the Chiefs. You know, they need that.
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  Speaker 1: There only the Chargers to win one game, right, the
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  Speaker 1: Chargers beat the Chiefs. I mean we said differently, they
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  Speaker 1: only need the Chiefs to lose one game if they
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  Speaker 1: went out, because they have the tiebreaker head right, right,
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  Speaker 1: And then the paid playoffs go through Foxborough and you
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  Speaker 1: know how that goes, don't It does not go well
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  Speaker 1: for anyone else. No, Eagles got a game winning field
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  Speaker 1: goal to beat the Giants. They're still in it. Five
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  Speaker 1: and six, they're in it. They are in it because
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  Speaker 1: they play the Redskins this week and then they have
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys next week. Yeah, they're dead in it. They
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  Speaker 1: control their own destiny. Basically, they're not very good, though,
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  Speaker 1: Bucks Niners. Nobody cares Chargers over the Cardinals Phillip Rivers.
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  Speaker 1: What a What about the stupidity of having Melvin Ingram
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  Speaker 1: and winning in the game, begging you to play because
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  Speaker 1: he was hurt and then you run him on a
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  Speaker 1: reverse and he hurts his knee. That's just dumb. Now
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  Speaker 1: they go to Pittsburgh without Melvin Gordon don't play well.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing that really haunts them. If they would
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  Speaker 1: have taken care of business, they had a big lead
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  Speaker 1: against the Broncos. They blew the end of that game.
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, they would be sitting at top tied
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  Speaker 1: for the division lead with the Kansas City Chiefs at
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  Speaker 1: two losses. Now they have no room for are They're
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  Speaker 1: still gonna play the Chiefs in two weeks. I'll bet
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  Speaker 1: they gotta beat the Chiefs. If they yeah, I'll be there.
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  Speaker 1: My point is you you know that one comes that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that game comes back to them, is my point.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. And final one here Pete big
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  Speaker 1: Been through an interception later the goal line. What couldn't
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  Speaker 1: he do that? Ago do that? I guess the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: It was almost like a Tim Tebow pop pass. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the play looked like. It was like a play.
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  Speaker 1: It was like stay were in the wrong place in
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  Speaker 1: the backfield or something. It was. It was terrible. It's
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  Speaker 1: a terrible play. They should have called time out, but
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  Speaker 1: didn't work. Never gotta win. Denver's alive. There's take a
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  Speaker 1: look at their schedule the rest of the way. They
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  Speaker 1: might end up being a playoff team. They got an
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  Speaker 1: easy schedule. By the way, Jason Meyers five field goals
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  Speaker 1: over fifty yards this year for the Jets. Yeah, five,
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  Speaker 1: It's great. Thanks. He have a great television program tonight
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  Speaker 1: We got we got fixing this. Okay? All right? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad. Um. A lot happened today. Let's review, shall we?
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  Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator gets fired? Can Scott Milanovich is calling plays?
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  Speaker 1: He was the quarterbacks coach? Oh? The quarterback got benched. Benched.
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  Speaker 1: It's Cody Kessler's team, at least at that position. The
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  Speaker 1: rest of the way, it's now what now? What for
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  Speaker 1: this team? They go this week? All mean I actually
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  Speaker 1: think they beat the Cold you look at that game.
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  Speaker 1: like a massive they fired the head coach. This is
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  Speaker 1: pretty mass in the quarterback that's no, that's double yeah,
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  Speaker 1: You've said this before though, and it's been taken out. Yeah.
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• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: mental hairs. They have no mental airs. You win. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they've got mental errors, right, Well, they can stop it.
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  Speaker 1: to do. Just can't be easier, right, I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of easy. It could be easier. Yes, it could
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  Speaker 1: that's great. You're sc football. They lost, by the way
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  Speaker 1: I watched, We'll be back. We'll be back. Were playing
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: Alabama for the national title next year. Okay, Um, So
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: the Jaguar is gonna win this game. Yes, I really
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: do believe it. I'm not joking. All joking aside, all
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  Speaker 1: double loss aside. I think they win. I think the
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  Speaker 1: change effect. All right, ragining schedule coming up the Colts
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  Speaker 1: this week. The Jaguars are at the Titans for I
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: don't like that game. I'm stating right now. It was
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: the last time they won a game in Nashville. Thursday nighter,
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  Speaker 1: Washington Redskins at home. I like that against Colt McCoy,
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  Speaker 1: do you yes? Um? At Miami, love it, love it.
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  Speaker 1: Miami is a great city. Will be nice down there
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  Speaker 1: at dinner. Maybe at Houston, but I don't like that
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  Speaker 1: unless Houston has nothing to play for. Miami still in it.
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  Speaker 1: They had a chance, they should have won yesterday, saying
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: I like, I mean, this is this tough. Miami is tough.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna be playing this week seven and sixteen. At
• 1:58:29
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• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: record five and six to win a game or two.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me tell you they're not going
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: to be in the hunt in week sixteen. Telling you,
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  Speaker 1: gonna be in the hunt. We're out of the hunt
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: right now. The hunt is not Dolphins, as they've taken
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  Speaker 1: her hunting gear away. We're not dolphins. Have the Bills, Patriots, Vikings, Jaguars, Bills,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: Bills twice, Vikings. They're not beating They're not beating the
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Bills in Buffalo. So that's one loss. Uh, they're not
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: being the Patriots and they're not beating the Vikings. It's
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: three losses there, eight and eight over Okay, oh no,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: they'll be seven and nine whatever. Anyway, Busy, Tony, I
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