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Staged Crime Scenes, Inverted Celebrities, & Bio Warfare (Feat. Ryan Dean, John Gusty & Colby) · Cosmic Peach

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Speaker 1: Baby, You are my gamester too. It takes a little tangle.
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Speaker 2: You don't mess with me, mess with me, my gangster to.
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Speaker 3: Poch Baby on the Gamestato.
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Speaker 4: For the warners, this podcast is designed to take you
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Speaker 4: outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.
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Speaker 4: Listener discretion is a vibe, fellas, this ain't my first time.
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Speaker 3: At the rodeo. Hello, conspiracy players, Welcome to another episode,
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Speaker 3: this one being a reunion of sorts. We have three
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Speaker 3: returning guests, John Gusty, Ryan Dean, and Julia from Cosmic
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Speaker 3: Peach podcast, Ryan Dean from a number of podcasts, and
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Speaker 3: we're gonna be talking about probably all sorts of stuff today,
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Speaker 3: but to bring it to like a focal point right
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Speaker 3: off the bat. Before we started recording, we were talking
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Speaker 3: about these big staged events that have happened throughout history,
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Speaker 3: and then there seems to be one going on right now.
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Speaker 3: And I'll give each of you, you know, your time
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Speaker 3: to kind of wrap up what your thoughts are about it.
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Speaker 3: We did it briefly, but we could really dive into
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Speaker 3: it now. And John, do you want to start with
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Speaker 3: some of the stuff you were saying before?
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Speaker 1: Oh about Luigi? Yeah, oh yeah, I well, you know,
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Speaker 1: we were we were we were talking about you know,
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Speaker 1: staged events, and and I say, yeah, there seems to
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Speaker 1: be one happening in real time right now. Because I
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Speaker 1: always you know, after I assassinate someone, I ditch my backpack,
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Speaker 1: peace out for five days, but still keep my manifesto
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Speaker 1: and the gun I used on me. That just doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound plausible. Plus, anytime mainstream media jumps on something with
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Speaker 1: such fervor, it is just a red flag to me.
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Speaker 1: This kind of people get whacked all the time, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I started, I started thinking about this back in
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Speaker 1: the day, like with remember the John Benet Ramsey case.
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Speaker 3: You know you're gonna get her going now.
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Speaker 2: I did like a three part series on John Benny Ramsey.
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Speaker 2: Well wait a second, John, you read Program to Kill right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, he has a chapter on John Beney in there,
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Speaker 2: because it's so fucked up.
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Speaker 1: Well, but I didn't even know who Dave McGowan was
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Speaker 1: back when when that happened, you know, but when it happened,
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Speaker 1: I did go. You know, this type of stuff happens
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Speaker 1: every day, multiple times a day, all over the probably
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Speaker 1: with within ten miles of anybody right now, as that
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Speaker 1: exact same thing happens, So why this one why does
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Speaker 1: this one case get such again across the board network
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Speaker 1: participation and all of a sudden it's a thing. And
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Speaker 1: and so this whole CEO whacking things justice seems like
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Speaker 1: another one of those like like people get whacked all
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Speaker 1: the time. And to what I think this is is
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Speaker 1: I think this is a this is setting the table
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Speaker 1: for a lot of these corporate bigwigs to piece out
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Speaker 1: legitimately or illegitimately. And when we start talking about some
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Speaker 1: of the entertainment stuff, you know, like is you know,
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Speaker 1: is Bowie really dead? Is Petty really dead? As Prince
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Speaker 1: really dead? Or or did they negotiate their you know,
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Speaker 1: their contract out and just pieced out, you know, or
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Speaker 1: you know, so that I think that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: I don't this whole Luigi thing, I don't. It's it's
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Speaker 1: just not what they say it is. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that at the very least. I think as far as
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Speaker 1: I'll go right now, is I will it might be
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Speaker 1: an m k Altra type of thing where you know
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Speaker 1: that that that that kid was for whatever reason we
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Speaker 1: I don't know his family connections or whatever, but it's
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Speaker 1: you know, what was the I'm blanking on the kid's
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Speaker 1: name the the shooter. Was it James something that the
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Speaker 1: shooter that went and you know, did the job and
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Speaker 1: then went and sat in the car and waited for
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Speaker 1: the police, or like in the DC Snipers, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: or in the DC Sniper case where the official gets
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Speaker 1: on TV and he says the code words or whatever
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Speaker 1: and then you know, the person turns themselves in, you know,
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Speaker 1: not too far after. So it might be an m
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Speaker 1: k Altra thing at at at best, but I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't think is this.
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Speaker 2: The same one that was like eating a fucking fish
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Speaker 2: file at and fucking Wells Brown.
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Speaker 3: Everybody was stoping it was the Mick rib because to me,
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Speaker 3: like these now have corporate like corporate funding like Donalds
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Speaker 3: both like come up in these headlines constantly. He did
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Speaker 3: Starbucks before the killing got caught in a McDonald's.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see the meme going around. It's a fake
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Speaker 1: burger king meme. This is burger king. We don't snitch.
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Speaker 3: That should be real. Actually, Ryan, what are your some
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Speaker 3: some of your thoughts on it initially.
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Speaker 5: On this Uh what's his name? Mangioni? I always struggle
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Speaker 5: with Italian names. Yeah, you gotta say it like it's
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Speaker 5: a dish when you're saying, Chu.
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Speaker 1: Remember the trumpet guy from the from the seventies, Chuck MANGIONI.
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Speaker 5: Oh, okay, so that's how you say at man, Johnny
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Speaker 5: YEA perfect yeah. Man. First of all, you know, Gussy,
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Speaker 5: you said a lot of stuff there. Man, I hope
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Speaker 5: Tom Petty's not dead, and I know that they say is,
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Speaker 5: but I mean, I love Tom Petty.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 5: That's that's my Desert Island artist right there. But I
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Speaker 5: know we're still not going to get to listen to them,
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Speaker 5: so you know, no new music coming out as far
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Speaker 5: as this thing goes. Man, It's it's interesting to me
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Speaker 5: because everything that you're saying makes so much sense, right.
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Speaker 5: We're not if one of us was going to go
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Speaker 5: and do something illegal, especially high profile like that, you're
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Speaker 5: not going to like keep a bullet point list of
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Speaker 5: how you did it, why you did it. You're not
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Speaker 5: going to keep the gun with supposedly the silencer that
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Speaker 5: was on there, or the suppressor I should say, but
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Speaker 5: if you're trying to do something high profile and you
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Speaker 5: want to get recognition for it, I think that you
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Speaker 5: would keep some of that stuff on you. So that
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Speaker 5: you know, you could almost have that that stardom about
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Speaker 5: what you did, and then you can have you know,
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Speaker 5: you can gain attention and you can be like, yeah,
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Speaker 5: I did this and it was a noble reason why
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Speaker 5: I did it. For the record, I don't think that
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Speaker 5: that they got the right guy. I don't think that
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Speaker 5: that's who did it. It just doesn't make sense. I
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Speaker 5: feel like when these kinds of things happen, especially to
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Speaker 5: high profile people, the people that get caught so quickly afterwards,
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Speaker 5: it's to almost deter other people from going out and
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Speaker 5: doing similar things, because there's a lot of people that
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Speaker 5: saw something like that happen and they're like, yeah, this
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Speaker 5: more CEOs, more politicians need to be afraid to walk
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Speaker 5: around in the street. So it's almost to deter people
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Speaker 5: from you know, copying this guy doing this similar kind
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Speaker 5: of stuff. But it's it's it's all so confusing, and
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Speaker 5: I'm not as deep into the conspiracy world as I
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Speaker 5: used to be, so I'm not researching all these little
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Speaker 5: intricacies and all these these these coincidences, if you want
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Speaker 5: to call them that. But yeah, something's very fishy about it.
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Speaker 5: And did you guys see the whole thing with two
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Speaker 5: eighty six. That's going around. It's everywhere right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just featured that in my other show and
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Speaker 3: it was like a kid on TikTok put together. It
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Speaker 3: might be the same thing you saw. Yeah, and yeah,
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Speaker 3: the the numbers in these very high profile news stories
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Speaker 3: are always fun to pay attention to. You get like
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Speaker 3: my co host on this show, he's a huge Jumatria guy.
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Speaker 3: And then I know, Ryan, you talk about the numerology
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Speaker 3: of things a lot, and yeah, yeah, what two eighty six?
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Speaker 3: It is weird how many times it can come.
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Speaker 5: Up right, and like I so it goes as deep
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Speaker 5: as like on his Twitter he had the freaking two
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Speaker 5: hundred and eighty six Pokemon in his in his uh
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Speaker 5: you know header up there. Yeah bray Loom. I don't
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Speaker 5: know what bray Loom is, but uh, you know, like
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Speaker 5: just a quick description of this thing, you know, for
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Speaker 5: what it's worth, it's basically like a little freaking green
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Speaker 5: mushroom looking guy. Did I cut out?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 3: I was trying to give you the option to share
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Speaker 3: your screen, and I started sharing my screen.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I can share it if you want, if you're going.
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Speaker 3: To talk about something you're looking at. I'm just going
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Speaker 3: to give you the option. It's your choice.
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Speaker 5: Well, let's pull it up. Yeah, so this is this guy,
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Speaker 5: This is bray Loom. It'd be great if his height
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Speaker 5: was three twenty two, but it's three eleven. Yeah, he's
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Speaker 5: a mushroom pokemon. I mean that could if you're trying
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Speaker 5: to like pull strings and like figure out some weird
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Speaker 5: kind of shit that you can point fingers to. You know,
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Speaker 5: mushrooms are a hallucinogenic, right, A big fan of mushrooms.
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Speaker 5: But just to me, man, they had a description up
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Speaker 5: here of what he does. It knocks out foes with quick,
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Speaker 5: virtually invisible punches. It scatters poisonous spores and throws powerful
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Speaker 5: punches while its foe is hampered by inhaled spores. I
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Speaker 5: would assume is what it continues saying there. So, like
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Speaker 5: I said, man, there's just a lot of weird things.
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Speaker 5: The denial code for his procedure, he had, like some
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Speaker 5: neck procedure. The denial code for insurance was two eighty six.
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Speaker 5: The McDonald's was two hundred eighty six miles away from
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Speaker 5: the killing spot. His fucking cousin follows two hundred and
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Speaker 5: eighty six people on Twitter. There was just two hundred
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Speaker 5: eighty six, over and over again. It was weird.
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Speaker 1: You think though, that the people, the people that craft
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Speaker 1: and launch these these are initiatives. These are marketing initiatives.
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Speaker 1: And if like we can all wrap our mind our
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Speaker 1: heads around the fact that there are you know, there
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Speaker 1: are normal people that work everyday jobs creating video games,
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Speaker 1: hiding deep ass easter eggs and all sorts of stuff
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Speaker 1: because that's what makes the games compelling. And and I
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Speaker 1: mean some of these things are deep. And it's like
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Speaker 1: if we do that with video games, and we do.
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Speaker 1: I mean again, it's people's jobs to create these story
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Speaker 1: I'm just talking video games now. There's people's jobs to
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Speaker 1: create these storylines and hide these Easter eggs and make
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Speaker 1: all of this And I mean, and that's happened hundreds
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Speaker 1: of thousands of times. How many video games are there,
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Speaker 1: you know, and there's some ones that are really fucking deep.
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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we do that with you know, we know
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Speaker 1: the news narratives are are created. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, at least a vast majority of them are.
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Speaker 1: I mean, every so often something real does happen, But
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Speaker 1: these type of things, like why wouldn't they hide some
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Speaker 1: Easter eggs and stuff in there to make it interesting
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Speaker 1: so that we you know, get caught up in that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff when and and and and it kind
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Speaker 1: of throws you off what it what it what it
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Speaker 1: actually is all about? And you know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: were we were we talking off camera or or on
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Speaker 1: camera when I was saying that, I think this is
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Speaker 1: just the wedding of the appetite for the the general uh,
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Speaker 1: the just the general narrative of being pissed at corporate America.
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Speaker 1: Because I think regardless of whatever team people call them
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Speaker 1: find themselves on, with your the red team or the
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Speaker 1: blue team or the yellow team, whatever, whatever team you're on,
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Speaker 1: I think everybody can agree in mass that the powers
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Speaker 1: that shouldn't be need to need to go or severely
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Speaker 1: change the way that they're they're doing things. So it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a it's a worldwide appetite to hate these motherfuckers,
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Speaker 1: to hate these corporate motherfuckers. And there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: them in vulnerable positions right now. So especially with you know,
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Speaker 1: we're we're new new season of America's Next Top President
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Speaker 1: coming up here, you know, real soon, and and whole
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Speaker 1: new cast, you know, and and and there's gonna be
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Speaker 1: some narratives changing and moving around and and and the public,
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Speaker 1: the worldwide public is hungry for something. Something's gotta happen.
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Speaker 1: And so I don't know, I'm just kind of playing
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Speaker 1: this out as if I was writing a movie. You know,
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Speaker 1: you got this new character come in and going, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna clean house and make things better and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: get all the bad people and love. Well, if that's
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Speaker 1: really happening, the bad people are shitting their pants knowing
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Speaker 1: that that's about to happen, and so they need a
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Speaker 1: way out. And so could this just be an event,
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Speaker 1: a pop culture event that is taking place to make
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Speaker 1: it kind of dumby, not not dumb you down, but
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Speaker 1: numb you or get you used to get the masses
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Speaker 1: used to the idea of corporate people being being whacked
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Speaker 1: or disappearing or going to jail, or bad things happening
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Speaker 1: to the corporate people, because that seems to be where
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Speaker 1: the narratives are going in that in that direction, and
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Speaker 1: we're not and we're not used to. I mean, just
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Speaker 1: think of look at what just happened through the scandemic.
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Speaker 1: There are a significant number of people on this earth
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Speaker 1: that were worshiping and listening to the every word that
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Speaker 1: the corporate structure was telling them to do. They were
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Speaker 1: injecting themselves with things, and they were put wearing things,
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Speaker 1: and they were doing everything the corporate structure was telling
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Speaker 1: them to do. And and now narrative is changing, and
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Speaker 1: now corporate structure might be having to pay for some
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Speaker 1: of its sins. I mean in real life. Look at
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Speaker 1: what's happened in the last month. I mean, in the
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Speaker 1: last month, you've got the Dutch government official publicly admitted,
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Speaker 1: you know, that the COVID pandemic was a NATO operation,
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Speaker 1: you know, and it took and that's that's actual headline news.
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Speaker 1: And then here in the States in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks, that five hundred and twenty page report by
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Speaker 1: the Oversight Committee pretty much saying that everything about the
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Speaker 1: scandemic was bullshit. So you've got the US government admitting
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Speaker 1: it was bullshit. You've got the Dutch government admitting it
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Speaker 1: was bullshit. Doctor Hay I believe it was. In Australia
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Speaker 1: just the other day was vindicated by their Superior Court.
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Speaker 1: You know, he was kind of one of the guys
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Speaker 1: there in Australia saying, you know, this is all bullshit,
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Speaker 1: all bok. He was just vindicated. So now the Australian
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Speaker 1: government is admitting that it was all bullshit. So there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of change, and it's
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Speaker 1: not because of the Trump thing. I mean, that's maybe
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Speaker 1: part of it, but there's a lot of Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of change coming. It's gonna have
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Speaker 1: the public is expecting things to change, and if the
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Speaker 1: ship doesn't change, I think then there's a real possibility
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Speaker 1: for an actual revolutionary mindset, maybe because your average every
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Speaker 1: day just looking in America, your average everyday American right
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Speaker 1: now is doing one of two things going. Well, if
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Speaker 1: you're if you were a blue people, one of the
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Speaker 1: blue people, you're going everything sucks, you know. I guess
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Speaker 1: in January, the trucks are gonna come around and round
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Speaker 1: up all the women in gays and take them to
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Speaker 1: the camps, which of course is not gonna happen, but
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Speaker 1: there's some people think that. But if you're a red person,
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Speaker 1: you're expecting some shit to happen, And there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of red people expecting some shit to happen. And if
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Speaker 1: shit doesn't happen, You're gonna have a lot of pistol.
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Speaker 1: The blue people are already pissed off, then you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have a lot of pissed off red people going what
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Speaker 1: the And so I think corporate, the corporate structure is
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Speaker 1: has been planning their exit and their downfall for a
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Speaker 1: while now. But I think this is where it hits mainstream.
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Speaker 1: And I think this Luigi Mangioni thing is maybe where
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Speaker 1: it hits mainstream. This is this is the beginning of
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Speaker 1: a lot of weird corporate exits and whackings. And just
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Speaker 1: like in the music industry, when somebody wants to retire,
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they want to retire, but in the
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Speaker 1: front of the camera, they die and they die off.
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Speaker 1: And what's the best thing for a musician's career is
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Speaker 1: to die? And then you sell tons of stuff. And
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Speaker 1: now now you're you know, now you're you know, a
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Speaker 1: legacy artist. And you know, Jimmy Hendrix sold a fuck
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Speaker 1: of a lot more product being dead. Did I hed
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix or Morgan Freeman, same thing? Yeah, yeah, Jimmy.
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix has sold a lot more product dead than
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Speaker 1: he did a live.
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Speaker 5: They go to jail too, right, I mean, you see
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Speaker 5: this with P Diddy and possibly jay Z coming up here, Like,
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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's P Diddy that's actually in jail.
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Speaker 5: If you look at the freaking picture, he doesn't have
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Speaker 5: the same facial features all that stuff. Now it's embarrassing
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Speaker 5: to go to jail the way that Pee did. He did,
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Speaker 5: but at the same time, it's probably still better for
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Speaker 5: his career, right, Because I'm trying to find a pattern here,
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Speaker 5: because you're saying that you know this will this will
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Speaker 5: be something that's more and more frequent in the media
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Speaker 5: that we're going to see killings or disappearances or whatever,
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Speaker 5: these high profile figures, and there could be a little
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Speaker 5: bit of a pattern for me with those three at least.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I And honestly, I think there's a
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Speaker 1: whole other thing we could talk about. I don't think
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Speaker 1: you're going to actually see jail time because these these
17:38
Speaker 1: characters that are committing these crimes are fictional characters. And
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Speaker 1: I think the last time we talked, I used the
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Speaker 1: example of Seinfeld because he actually used didn't change his name.
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Speaker 1: So there is the fictional character of Seinfeld who lives
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Speaker 1: in the apartment across the way from Kramer and Elaine
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Speaker 1: and George come over. There's that fictional character, but that
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Speaker 1: sein doesn't really exist. That's a fictional character that is
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Speaker 1: a piece of media property. Somebody owns that Seinfeld, you know.
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Speaker 1: I think Larry David probably owns that Seinfeld. So that
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Speaker 1: fictional Seinfeld is a piece of intellectual property that is
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Speaker 1: owned by somebody. And then there's the real Jerry Seinfeld
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Speaker 1: that is probably sitting. We could go knock on his
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Speaker 1: door and have coffee with him right now. Well, there
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Speaker 1: isn't there, you know, there isn't really a p ditty.
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Speaker 1: You know. Sean Combs might not even be his real name.
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Speaker 1: That might just be his corporate stage name, if you will,
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Speaker 1: which is why a lot of these celebrities have stage
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Speaker 1: names because they're not real entities, you know, Like like
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Speaker 1: my my real name is John Gusty. But if I
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Speaker 1: had a stage name and I was you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: Ricky Fire, you know, if that was my name, you know,
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Speaker 1: and Ricky Fire went out and raped a bunch of
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Speaker 1: women and stole a bunch of money, you can't you
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Speaker 1: can't prosecute Ricky Fire because Ricky Fire doesn't exist. He's
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Speaker 1: a character here, you know what I mean. And there's
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Speaker 1: and and and the same system that owns and controls
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Speaker 1: the courts, owns and controls all the copyrights and all
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Speaker 1: that stuff. So it's an enclosed system. So if you're
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Speaker 1: in on it, if you're one of those characters, you're
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Speaker 1: not gonna you're you're not gonna see any jail time.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they might want every once in a while,
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Speaker 1: they might throw like a bone to the unsuspecting public
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Speaker 1: and lock somebody, lock somebody up, you know on camera.
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Speaker 1: Oh you know, it's somebody in jail. But are these
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Speaker 1: people really sitting in jail in real life? I don't.
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Speaker 3: I have a huge question for you about that. I
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Speaker 3: want Julia to get in on what we were just
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Speaker 3: talking about. And then John, you gave me a perfect
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Speaker 3: segue with that, because it's something I wanted to bring
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Speaker 3: up huge on this episode. But anyway, do you have
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Speaker 3: anything to wrap up on the Luigi?
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Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like, I think we're all living
19:57
Speaker 2: in the most interesting season of American horror story. I
20:00
Speaker 2: think all this stuff is fake.
20:02
Speaker 3: I think.
20:03
Speaker 2: I mean, people can disagree with me, but it's like
20:07
Speaker 2: you were saying, they play a character, and there's like
20:11
Speaker 2: the real person and then the character that we all see.
20:14
Speaker 2: And I really really do think even with stuff like this,
20:18
Speaker 2: that it's all fake and it's all staged, and it's
20:20
Speaker 2: all so like we're just hitting a climactic moment in
20:25
Speaker 2: the season and then you know, we'll see what happens
20:28
Speaker 2: later on. But I think a lot of this, even
20:30
Speaker 2: like with he Diddy and they're not going to jail.
20:35
Speaker 2: That's probably not even him. They made a freaking Netflix
20:38
Speaker 2: movie what was it this year or last year about
20:41
Speaker 2: they clone Tyrone? And then everybody had a theory about
20:45
Speaker 2: what's his nuts? Jamie foxx Fross. He didn't look anything,
20:49
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like they're always changing
20:52
Speaker 2: the characters and they're always like you know, so, I
20:55
Speaker 2: think we're either living in American horror story or we're
20:59
Speaker 2: living in and they cloned Tyrone and there's just a
21:01
Speaker 2: bunch of fucking doubles and ship out there, and.
21:05
Speaker 5: I don't know, could be boss, could be boss?
21:08
Speaker 2: Yeah?
21:10
Speaker 3: All right, John, we talked about the West Memphis three
21:15
Speaker 3: on the first episode we did together. I want to
21:18
Speaker 3: ask you about the Manson killings. Were they real? Were
21:24
Speaker 3: they maybe not real? And you talked about these characters
21:28
Speaker 3: never seen in jail time? And so was Charlie Manson
21:32
Speaker 3: a real person? Was he somebody that got footage of
21:34
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really like lead.
21:37
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe that Charles Manson was a
21:39
Speaker 1: was a real person.
21:40
Speaker 3: And Sharon Tate killed?
21:45
Speaker 1: Again, Sharon Tate is a character, so they can do
21:49
Speaker 1: whatever they want to with their characters. Was Sharon Tate
21:54
Speaker 1: the character killed? Well, clearly the character was killed, because
21:58
Speaker 1: that's what the storylines is. Was there a real human
22:01
Speaker 1: being in real life that died. I highly doubt it.
22:06
Speaker 2: Really. They're big, pregnant belly and like all the crime
22:12
Speaker 2: scene photos, and they sensationalized stuff, you know, because they
22:19
Speaker 2: love to put that picture out for everyone to see,
22:22
Speaker 2: just like with John will Reason.
22:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's being pregnant.
22:25
Speaker 2: Bloody belly with the fucking noose and like all the
22:28
Speaker 2: and they repose the bodies. You remember, we were.
22:30
Speaker 1: Talking about kind of the same kind of the same
22:33
Speaker 1: point that I made Kolby with the West Memphis three,
22:36
Speaker 1: all right, and the bodies of the boys and they're
22:39
Speaker 1: in DVDs and ship that you can buy. And if
22:43
Speaker 1: my son if in real life that happened to my son,
22:49
Speaker 1: over my fucking dead body, with footage of my dead naked,
22:55
Speaker 1: abused boy be allowed to be sold on the I mean,
22:59
Speaker 1: there's just no there's no fucking way it would ever happen.
23:01
Speaker 1: And same with that, with that, if if Tate was real,
23:06
Speaker 1: and and and and and and that would do you
23:08
Speaker 1: honestly think that would you will? If that was your
23:10
Speaker 1: family member.
23:12
Speaker 3: Well, she was also a powerful guy in the military,
23:15
Speaker 3: so if he didn't want any of those photos, yeah,
23:25
Speaker 3: he was the prototype of this kind of thing going
23:27
Speaker 3: on in that area at this time. So I I actually, John,
23:32
Speaker 3: the reason I asked you is because after you said
23:34
Speaker 3: the thing about the West Memphis three, I didn't go
23:37
Speaker 3: full human vibrations and just start thinking every goddamn thing
23:41
Speaker 3: is fake. But I do think most of it is.
23:44
Speaker 3: I mean, I think maybe sometimes real ship happens and
23:46
Speaker 3: they just grab a hold of the narrative and pull
23:48
Speaker 3: it where they want that to go. But usually they
23:50
Speaker 3: just construct the whole thing. So I've been obsessed with
23:53
Speaker 3: the Manson killings, and I went and looked back through
23:55
Speaker 3: these new lenses I have on now, and it seems
23:59
Speaker 3: fake as fuck on every angle. Possible, And like you
24:02
Speaker 3: said about them planting things like the conspiracy candy to
24:06
Speaker 3: go digging through, the Roman Polanski and the witchcraft shit
24:09
Speaker 3: that was going on around all those people, and they're
24:11
Speaker 3: trying to stay sequence. So if you think it's real,
24:13
Speaker 3: you could tie all these things together that probably don't
24:16
Speaker 3: even really exist.
24:17
Speaker 2: If it's real. I think Roman set it up, and
24:21
Speaker 2: I think he got off on the pictures of her
24:23
Speaker 2: bloody pregnant belly. He was probably jacking off to fucking
24:26
Speaker 2: Rosemary's baby, Like, yes, what is freaking weirdo?
24:32
Speaker 1: What is What is inarguably real is someone or someone's
24:36
Speaker 1: did craft these narratives, and there was a purpose for
24:42
Speaker 1: these narratives to be crafted, and that is I think
24:45
Speaker 1: where where the fun conversations lie is who who and
24:50
Speaker 1: who and why? You know? And it's like, well, you know,
24:53
Speaker 1: I mean even you know, you know nine to eleven,
24:57
Speaker 1: I don't You could use nine eleven as an example.
24:59
Speaker 1: People would say, you, well, you know, was nine to
25:01
Speaker 1: eleven all about Building seven and what they had to
25:04
Speaker 1: cover up there? Maybe that was part of it. Nine
25:07
Speaker 1: to eleven also was just like this Luigi thing, a
25:10
Speaker 1: really great event to set the tone in public conversation
25:16
Speaker 1: for stuff that was to come next, you know, and
25:18
Speaker 1: that that that that started a whole decade plus of
25:22
Speaker 1: terra noia, you know. And it was terror, terror, terror, terror,
25:26
Speaker 1: and you know, and and it's gone on so long
25:29
Speaker 1: that they had to change the narrative. Would would that
25:32
Speaker 1: there would be something else to be afraid of? And
25:34
Speaker 1: I think that's part of why the scandemic came up,
25:38
Speaker 1: you know. But but you know, if terrorism, I've heard
25:41
Speaker 1: some other people say this in various ways, but if
25:45
Speaker 1: terrorism was real, how come none of the like the
25:51
Speaker 1: actual like things that matter get terrorized? Like like like
25:54
Speaker 1: like if if Koby Kolby, where where what city are you.
25:59
Speaker 3: In right now?
26:00
Speaker 1: Medford, Oregon, Medford, Oregon? And okay, so I'm in Nashville.
26:05
Speaker 1: So if Nashville, Tennessee went to went to war with Medford, Oregon,
26:11
Speaker 1: do you think that if I'm the commander of the
26:13
Speaker 1: army and I'm trying to take over Medford, Oregon, or
26:18
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring Medford, Oregon to its knees, why
26:22
Speaker 1: would I waste my time killing people in some movie theaters?
26:27
Speaker 1: Or why would I waste my time, you know, blowing
26:31
Speaker 1: up a marathon you know, you know what, I'd go
26:36
Speaker 1: to the Medford, Oregon town offices. I'd seize the or
26:42
Speaker 1: if I wanted to destroy Medford, Oregon, I just blow
26:44
Speaker 1: those fuckers up and kill all the people, kill all
26:47
Speaker 1: the officials, and then install new people in Medford, Oregon.
26:51
Speaker 1: But like we don't see terror events. It's like the
26:55
Speaker 1: terror events are against the public. They're never again the
27:01
Speaker 1: the figureheads, you know, you know, and and and if
27:05
Speaker 1: you know, if it look at the look at the US.
27:09
Speaker 1: Has the US not given the rest of the world
27:12
Speaker 1: every you know, every reason to to wanta Let's say,
27:16
Speaker 1: the US, the District of Columbia has given the world many,
27:20
Speaker 1: many reasons to want to want to mess with it.
27:22
Speaker 1: But but we we rarely see any District of Columbia
27:26
Speaker 1: officials whacked.
27:27
Speaker 3: You know, do you think that nuclear weapons exist? John No, No,
27:33
Speaker 3: I think we're unanimous here.
27:38
Speaker 2: I am actually from Oklahoma City, and they have the
27:42
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial that you can go and like
27:46
Speaker 2: walk around and like get all this information that's probably
27:49
Speaker 2: totally made up.
27:50
Speaker 3: Get a McVeigh coffee muggin, right.
27:53
Speaker 1: And like there's ongoing revenue, man, because I'm sure it's
27:57
Speaker 1: not free. Sure, you paid to go in.
28:00
Speaker 2: Twenty dollars a person to get into, like you around
28:03
Speaker 2: the memorial for free, but if you want to learn
28:05
Speaker 2: anything about it, you got to pay like twenty dollars
28:08
Speaker 2: a person.
28:08
Speaker 3: Hey, for your indoctrination.
28:10
Speaker 2: This attitude in Oklahoma City, that's like they fully accept
28:14
Speaker 2: the narrative, and they fully you know, they're they're not
28:17
Speaker 2: trying to look into it. They don't want to look
28:19
Speaker 2: into it. They just accept it for what it is.
28:21
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people died, you know, and kids died.
28:24
Speaker 2: They had like a daycare in there, and a bunch
28:26
Speaker 2: of kids were blown up too, and so nobody wants
28:29
Speaker 2: to like really look into the Oklahoma City bombing either.
28:33
Speaker 2: But it's got a bunch of like weird shit too.
28:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mick, the whole McVey narrative was kind of
28:38
Speaker 1: like this Luigi thing. It was like, you know, when
28:40
Speaker 1: when when when he was caught in a car with
28:42
Speaker 1: expired tag. Dude, you're telling me that if you pull
28:46
Speaker 1: off a thing like that, your getaway vehicle is gonna
28:50
Speaker 1: you thought everything through, but you're were like, fuck, my
28:53
Speaker 1: tags are expired.
28:54
Speaker 3: Give me every reason to be fucking pulled over.
28:57
Speaker 1: He had his manifesto with them too, leading manifesto as well.
29:01
Speaker 1: So you know, it's a familiar narratives, just repeating, but yeah,
29:07
Speaker 1: now it is again. I think we're probably all in agreement.
29:11
Speaker 1: Most of these things are are staged and manipulated, either
29:20
Speaker 1: partially or completely.
29:22
Speaker 5: Well, there's another thing that I always think about, especially,
29:24
Speaker 5: it kind of reminded me with this Mangioni guy. I'm
29:29
Speaker 5: just gonna call him Luigi from now. I want to
29:31
Speaker 5: be honest, but yeah, this Luigi dude, when when people
29:35
Speaker 5: found out who he was, all these girls online are
29:38
Speaker 5: talking about how hot he was, Right he is, it's
29:41
Speaker 5: the same. What's that?
29:43
Speaker 1: I mean? He is hot.
29:45
Speaker 5: He's a good looking dude.
29:47
Speaker 3: He's a hot Italians. He looks like he could have
29:51
Speaker 3: been the stand in on the music video for beat It.
29:53
Speaker 3: When they arrested him. He's got that red leather jacket
29:56
Speaker 3: down and he's going snarling at the fucking camera and shit.
30:00
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, yeah, he's got like he's got
30:02
Speaker 5: to you know, he's in good shape and all that stuff.
30:04
Speaker 5: But it reminded me of that Boston bomber I forget
30:07
Speaker 5: his name.
30:08
Speaker 3: The younger they put the rolling Stone cover and all
30:10
Speaker 3: that shit.
30:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, they put him on Rolling Stone and so like
30:13
Speaker 5: I I'm one of these people. Like I said, I'm
30:16
Speaker 5: not as into conspiracies as I used to be because
30:19
Speaker 5: it gets exhausting after a certain time, right, I kind
30:21
Speaker 5: of go through cycles. Yeah, that's him, happy box.
30:27
Speaker 3: The McDonald arches, happy mill blocks.
30:30
Speaker 5: Well, the freaking McDonald's golden arches is a symbol for
30:34
Speaker 5: it could be for like the Boaz and Yaheen thing.
30:36
Speaker 5: I've seen some things with that, the two arches and
30:38
Speaker 5: like you know, all the freemasonry that's in arches and
30:40
Speaker 5: all that was bullshit. But anyway, the uh, the narrative
30:46
Speaker 5: or like what I'm trying to get to say here
30:48
Speaker 5: is that some of these people, Man, I don't know
30:50
Speaker 5: if this dude was on any medication, some of these
30:52
Speaker 5: SSRIs and weird shit like that. But I feel like
30:56
Speaker 5: when like at a certain point, people get lost and
30:59
Speaker 5: they can they want to just be famous, especially in
31:02
Speaker 5: this era of TikTok and Instagram and social media, and
31:05
Speaker 5: they want to go out there and do something that
31:08
Speaker 5: gets them some recognition. So I'm not saying that he
31:10
Speaker 5: did or didn't do it. I have no fucking idea
31:12
Speaker 5: to be honest, But I refuse personally to just think
31:16
Speaker 5: that every one of these events is fake, right, because
31:19
Speaker 5: some of this stuff's real. It has to be. There's
31:21
Speaker 5: real there's real consequences to these things, even if they
31:25
Speaker 5: are fake.
31:26
Speaker 1: Ryan, you just you brought up something that I think
31:30
Speaker 1: is important. And this is early on. This is an
31:33
Speaker 1: argument that my wife would have with me on a
31:36
Speaker 1: regular basis. I'll use nine to eleven as an example. Okay,
31:41
Speaker 1: those buildings really did come down, right, the people really
31:46
Speaker 1: did die. So when you know, and I think that
31:51
Speaker 1: should serve just that should serve as kind of a
31:58
Speaker 1: blueprint for when when we say things are fake, you
32:04
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like like not was was the
32:07
Speaker 1: nine to eleven narrative fake? Yes? Very much so? But
32:11
Speaker 1: buildings did come down, people really did die. So so dual.
32:17
Speaker 2: Agreeance with you on that. That's exactly how I feel too.
32:20
Speaker 2: It's like it's real but fake at the same time.
32:22
Speaker 3: Well, they're willing to use us as unwilling participants in
32:26
Speaker 3: the in the big thing they've planned.
32:28
Speaker 5: They were fodder.
32:29
Speaker 3: But like so, Ryan, with like the Manson killings, are
32:33
Speaker 3: you willing to entertain the idea that the people that
32:36
Speaker 3: got killed in the house on Seallow Drive, if they
32:39
Speaker 3: could be fake or do you think that?
32:41
Speaker 1: Sure?
32:41
Speaker 5: And I think that a lot of this stuff can
32:43
Speaker 5: be fake, and there's fake you know, components to it.
32:46
Speaker 5: But even with and I'll you know, we can talk
32:49
Speaker 5: more about the Manson stuff obviously, but you know, even
32:51
Speaker 5: with something as crazy as COVID, like COVID, I am
32:54
Speaker 5: fully convinced that the story that we were told is bullshit.
32:57
Speaker 5: And I was, I was a pretty early adopter that theory.
33:00
Speaker 5: But COVID had real consequences, like very real ones, right,
33:04
Speaker 5: And so that I think that makes it real, and
33:07
Speaker 5: that makes it that makes it so that like I
33:10
Speaker 5: just get exhausted when so many of my friends in
33:12
Speaker 5: this community which I hate that word too, but so
33:15
Speaker 5: many of my friends in this conspiracy world say everything's
33:19
Speaker 5: fake and everything's fake and gay and they say all
33:21
Speaker 5: this stuff, and I'm like, man like, like, at what
33:24
Speaker 5: point are you just like a nihilist and you know,
33:27
Speaker 5: like a complete not a skeptic. What's the other one skeptic?
33:32
Speaker 5: And what another s word? Cynic? Right, Like it's just
33:37
Speaker 5: so cynical just to be like, ah, that's exactly why
33:42
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that you're doing that, John, just to
33:44
Speaker 5: be clear, but like it's just to me, man. You know,
33:47
Speaker 5: these things have real consequences, and I think that that
33:49
Speaker 5: can't get you know, overlooked.
33:52
Speaker 1: No, And I know I appreciate you bringing that up.
33:54
Speaker 1: And that's exactly why I spoke up and said something,
33:57
Speaker 1: because I'm with you, you know, and I'll I'll tell you
34:00
Speaker 1: something that's that's that's really really personal. My wife of
34:04
Speaker 1: almost thirty years, Dawn, she hasn't taken a step on
34:10
Speaker 1: her own, and going on twenty years now, she's been
34:13
Speaker 1: an electric scooter. She has she has got one of
34:17
Speaker 1: the most compromised immune systems a human could be cursed with.
34:25
Speaker 1: So we've been living with compromised immune system on a
34:31
Speaker 1: major level. I'm talking like on a life or death
34:33
Speaker 1: level for you know, twenty five years or so. So
34:39
Speaker 1: I know a thing or two about cells and blood
34:43
Speaker 1: and and and bacteria because not because I want to,
34:48
Speaker 1: because we've had to learn this or my you know,
34:52
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to happen to my wife. And
34:55
Speaker 1: so when all of this stuff started happening, that the
34:59
Speaker 1: COVID stuf started happening, I didn't never once thought it
35:05
Speaker 1: was real. I never once thought it was real because
35:08
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't real, because I was twenty five
35:13
Speaker 1: years into knowing that viruses are theoretical, have never been proven,
35:17
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I knew. I knew all of that
35:20
Speaker 1: again out of necessity because of my wife. But around me,
35:25
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of chaos and suffering and and
35:29
Speaker 1: and now arguably a lot of it was self inflicted.
35:33
Speaker 1: A lot of it was was otherwise well meaning people
35:40
Speaker 1: trusting and acting out of fear, but there was some
35:43
Speaker 1: very real damp to your point, there was some very
35:45
Speaker 1: real damage done. And yes, so I do think it
35:51
Speaker 1: bothers me too when I hear people, you know, in
35:56
Speaker 1: just anywhere just being being that so cynical, that that
36:00
Speaker 1: that everything is fake. But I think, you know, there's
36:03
Speaker 1: always going to be those those people in the room,
36:05
Speaker 1: and it's up to people like us too. We can
36:08
Speaker 1: have these these conversations which a lot of people would
36:11
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of maybe a lot of people
36:13
Speaker 1: listening you know, might think are crazy. But I do
36:15
Speaker 1: think there is a responsibility in having these conversations to
36:19
Speaker 1: be as specific as possible. You know, Like I said,
36:21
Speaker 1: I think nine to eleven serves as the best example
36:23
Speaker 1: of that people really did die, those buildings really didn't
36:26
Speaker 1: come down. Some some fucked up shit happened. But but
36:29
Speaker 1: the story fake as hell from from start to finish,
36:33
Speaker 1: and and and so you know, but by but I've
36:37
Speaker 1: met people who say everything about nine to eleven was fake.
36:39
Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, you.
36:40
Speaker 5: Know, the buildings aren't there anymore. But those are probably
36:44
Speaker 5: people that never even went and saw the twin towers before,
36:47
Speaker 5: so like they probably weren't even there in the first place,
36:49
Speaker 5: you know, even though millions of people have seen these things.
36:52
Speaker 5: So I don't know, man, But yeah, like you're saying,
36:55
Speaker 5: words matter a lot, and the way that you bring
36:56
Speaker 5: things up matters. And that's why earlier when we were talking,
36:59
Speaker 5: I said that silence around his gun, and then I
37:02
Speaker 5: changed it to suppressor because it's actually it's called a suppressor.
37:05
Speaker 5: It's kind of like calling a freaking AR fifteen assault rifle.
37:08
Speaker 5: There's no such thing as an assault rifle, Like this
37:11
Speaker 5: could be an assault can you know, just anything that
37:14
Speaker 5: you can hurt someone with.
37:15
Speaker 1: He walks into a gun store and say, where's your
37:17
Speaker 1: assault rifles? They're gonna look at you like, you have
37:19
Speaker 1: no idea what you're fucking talking about.
37:21
Speaker 5: Right, Well, there's some dipshits that think that AR stands
37:23
Speaker 5: for assault rifle, right, you know, And so I mean, yeah,
37:27
Speaker 5: it's words matter, and the way that we talk about
37:30
Speaker 5: this stuff is very important, I think, and I would
37:32
Speaker 5: agree with that, John, But it's just yeah, the the
37:35
Speaker 5: like how is it fake? What's fake about it? I
37:37
Speaker 5: think those are the things that that are really important.
37:39
Speaker 5: Saying with the Trump shooting, whichever one you want to
37:42
Speaker 5: talk about. With the Trump shootings, yeah, there was some
37:44
Speaker 5: weird shit there, but there's consequences to those events always, right.
37:48
Speaker 5: The liberals would say the consequence to him getting shot
37:50
Speaker 5: would be him winning the election, because I think he
37:53
Speaker 5: won the election that day, to be honest, you know,
37:54
Speaker 5: he got shot in the state.
37:56
Speaker 3: From the very beginning, as soon as that came up,
37:58
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, they're putting men.
38:01
Speaker 1: I would I would go I would go so far
38:02
Speaker 1: as to say, it's the consequences to those events are
38:05
Speaker 1: the reason those events are crafted and executed in the
38:07
Speaker 1: first Yeah, that's that's exactly.
38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. Even like what you mentioned earlier with John Benney,
38:14
Speaker 2: I have been long in the camp that she's real,
38:17
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of you know, theories floating around
38:20
Speaker 2: that she never existed. But like when I say it's fake,
38:24
Speaker 2: I think that little girl really died. I think this
38:26
Speaker 2: story they put out about it is fake. And all
38:28
Speaker 2: of like the stuff about the parents and like the
38:33
Speaker 2: brother and like all that weird stuff that and then
38:35
Speaker 2: he went on doctor Phil and stuff and like that
38:38
Speaker 2: stuff to me is fake, as in they've scripted it.
38:42
Speaker 2: But I think a little girl really physically did die.
38:45
Speaker 2: You know, Like that's a lot and there is dead.
38:51
Speaker 3: Bodies, but.
38:54
Speaker 1: And and and in order to make it believable and
38:56
Speaker 1: to get the desired outcome, there has to be casualties
38:59
Speaker 1: because you know, otherwise it would actually be fake and
39:02
Speaker 1: and a stage Hollywood production. So the powers that shouldn't
39:07
Speaker 1: be are not above having some people lost in order
39:11
Speaker 1: to get the desired outcome.
39:14
Speaker 3: She died, so anybody had a hand in her death.
39:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, wasn't there some things about John vnet Ramsey where
39:22
Speaker 5: like all the beauty pageants that she was in, like
39:24
Speaker 5: there was no one else entered into those paageants and
39:27
Speaker 5: stuff like that.
39:28
Speaker 4: Yeah.
39:28
Speaker 2: I actually covered that in my series because it was
39:31
Speaker 2: a point people kept bringing up to to like nationally
39:35
Speaker 2: that she wasn't real and those pageants actually don't exist.
39:40
Speaker 2: But the all the videos and stuff of her, if
39:44
Speaker 2: you read Programmed to Kill and you kind of look
39:46
Speaker 2: into it, I think she was actually part of like
39:49
Speaker 2: this underground like pageant weird kittie porn thing that was
39:53
Speaker 2: going on. Well, they dress up these little girls and
39:56
Speaker 2: they do take videos of them. They do like Dolly
39:59
Speaker 2: Parton them up and like make them look crazy, and
40:02
Speaker 2: then they take pictures and videos of them. So the
40:04
Speaker 2: pageants themselves might be fake quote unquote, but the videos
40:08
Speaker 2: are real, the pictures are real. I think she was
40:11
Speaker 2: really her parents were into like some pretty fucked up shit.
40:15
Speaker 2: And John you probably know about this from reading Program
40:19
Speaker 2: to Kill, But there is this whole underworld like dark
40:21
Speaker 2: pageant circle that these girls are thrown into really young.
40:25
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a yeah, it's and I think I think
40:29
Speaker 1: most people, if they think about it, those beauty pads.
40:34
Speaker 1: The whole thing about beauty pageants for for for little
40:37
Speaker 1: girls is creepy, just even on the surface, you know,
40:40
Speaker 1: I mean, like like it would would anyone that's ever
40:44
Speaker 1: been been a parent would never put their kid through
40:50
Speaker 1: something like you, you'd have to be a special kind
40:54
Speaker 1: of person. And I'm not saying that in a complimentary way.
40:56
Speaker 1: You'd have to be a special type of person to
40:58
Speaker 1: put your precious child on a stage to compete against
41:02
Speaker 1: other children based on their beauty.
41:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty weird.
41:06
Speaker 5: And I don't have a kid, and I fully agree.
41:08
Speaker 5: I can see how creepy that shit is without having
41:11
Speaker 5: a kid.
41:13
Speaker 2: And it's also like a bunch of weird dudes. Like
41:16
Speaker 2: when I was reading about it, most of the people
41:19
Speaker 2: that turn up to the beauty pageants and shit, like
41:22
Speaker 2: some of them are friends and family whatever, but a
41:24
Speaker 2: lot of it is just like weird, creepy old older
41:27
Speaker 2: dudes that like get off on watching these little girls
41:31
Speaker 2: in their little bikinis and shit. And then there's that
41:34
Speaker 2: story about Heather or Rourke when from Poltergeist, when they
41:38
Speaker 2: made her dress up in a bikini and like do
41:40
Speaker 2: this stuff. And then like I think it was that
41:42
Speaker 2: same night she died and they blamed it on some
41:44
Speaker 2: kind of a bowel condition. Again, a little girl really
41:48
Speaker 2: died story fake. I think they were doing stuff to her.
41:52
Speaker 2: I mean, like they blamed it on like a bowel
41:55
Speaker 2: condition or something, and.
41:56
Speaker 3: They said, they said, your fluent septic, but they sodomized her.
42:01
Speaker 3: I mean, it couldn't be more fucking obviously, there.
42:03
Speaker 2: Was like a witness, and every time she tries to
42:06
Speaker 2: bring up the story, they tell her that she's a
42:08
Speaker 2: kook and a crazy and like a shut the fuck
42:10
Speaker 2: up and like whatever.
42:11
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a that whole beauty pageant thing seems
42:16
Speaker 1: to be like a like kind of the minor league
42:19
Speaker 1: farm team for the grooming aspect of things.
42:24
Speaker 5: Dude, I took my sister to a freaking she used
42:27
Speaker 5: to do tumbling when she was a little toddler, and
42:29
Speaker 5: I felt weird as ships just being there watching these
42:32
Speaker 5: toddlers freaking tumbling and stuff. Like I'd go outside and
42:35
Speaker 5: just chill, be like I'm not gonna you know, it's
42:36
Speaker 5: just weird, Like you.
42:38
Speaker 3: Know, like my sister did that too, and they got
42:40
Speaker 3: him in these Yeah, they're like suits basically.
42:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know they're they're flipping around and doing
42:48
Speaker 5: ship and it's like, man, I don't want to be
42:49
Speaker 5: in here for this ship. I'm just gonna leave her
42:51
Speaker 5: in here and walk outside, you know, and then let
42:54
Speaker 5: me know when you're done, and I'll go back in
42:55
Speaker 5: but yeah, man, I can't imagine being a fucking grown
42:57
Speaker 5: man and being like, Wow, this girl's real allented. It's like,
43:01
Speaker 5: what the fuck is your problem? It's weird, like a.
43:04
Speaker 2: Weird video of Tom Hanks. Maybe it was a joke.
43:08
Speaker 3: I don't know.
43:09
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like have you seen it? I posted it
43:11
Speaker 2: on Instagram.
43:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, where he's like what I mean, talk about the video.
43:15
Speaker 5: He's like cheering on a girl and stuff.
43:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it like a late night show and.
43:21
Speaker 5: I want to say Saturday Night livery one of those
43:22
Speaker 5: like skit shows, like they're.
43:24
Speaker 2: Trying to make it funny, but at the same time,
43:26
Speaker 2: he's like make it nasty for me, make it and
43:28
Speaker 2: he's like throwing dollar bills or something like that.
43:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, certainly have no reason to suspect Tom Hanks
43:35
Speaker 1: of any such a nice guy.
43:40
Speaker 2: Actually, he told me something about the kid that was
43:43
Speaker 2: in Forrest coump.
43:45
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so this was before, like years before. So
43:48
Speaker 3: Forrest Gump was always one of my favorite movies, and
43:51
Speaker 3: I watched behind the Scenes DVD and Tom Hanks modeled
43:56
Speaker 3: that accent off of the little kid that played Forrest Gump,
44:00
Speaker 3: and it showed footage behind the takes of the movie
44:05
Speaker 3: where he is just like this fucking close to him,
44:08
Speaker 3: following him around in a really creepy way. It creeped
44:11
Speaker 3: me out at the time. Years later, when all this
44:13
Speaker 3: other shit came out, I was just going, fuck, I
44:16
Speaker 3: thought right back to that. That kid has not done
44:19
Speaker 3: anything since that movie, by the way, And yeah, there's
44:23
Speaker 3: so much creepy.
44:23
Speaker 1: Shit interesting that can be interesting even still around exactly.
44:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably like that kid from The Little Rascals,
44:34
Speaker 2: that Bug whatever it.
44:35
Speaker 3: Bug Hall that played off Falf in the movie. Yeah,
44:37
Speaker 3: he's he goes on like conspiracy shows our size. He
44:41
Speaker 3: doesn't say a lot, but you know he's talking about
44:43
Speaker 3: some dark shit that he went clean for the Hills.
44:47
Speaker 2: The kid from Forrest Gump. He Tom Hanks was trying
44:50
Speaker 2: to absorb his fucking essence. And I mean it's so
44:55
Speaker 2: it's so like gross and disturbing. It really is.
45:01
Speaker 5: Uh, that kid from Forrest Gump. His name is Michael
45:03
Speaker 5: Connor Humphreys, and he looks like a fucking mk ultra.
45:08
Speaker 3: Dude, sure your screen there, I want to see. Oh yeah,
45:13
Speaker 3: is it like a newer picture?
45:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is him.
45:17
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god. Oh he's fucked up.
45:23
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he looks sorry, Oh what is this?
45:25
Speaker 5: He's in the military background.
45:28
Speaker 1: Oh that's so I.
45:30
Speaker 3: Never saw that, j You never saw that coming, John.
45:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's showing some movie posters. I don't know if
45:39
Speaker 5: he's been in all these movies or what.
45:41
Speaker 2: He definitely wasn't in Apollo thirteen.
45:45
Speaker 5: He could have been one of the Meteors or something.
45:47
Speaker 1: He seems to happen.
45:50
Speaker 5: He loves Forrest Gump though, or not Forrest Gump freaking
45:52
Speaker 5: Tom Hanks. But yeah, man, so yeah, he definitely looks, uh,
45:57
Speaker 5: a little stuck. It's a little weird.
46:00
Speaker 2: He looks like a Columbine shooter.
46:03
Speaker 5: Right, That's what I'm saying. He looks like just one
46:04
Speaker 5: of these people that's like totally brainwashed. That's him.
46:08
Speaker 3: I didn't he didn't bother to stick around the film industry.
46:13
Speaker 5: Now it doesn't look like it, but.
46:16
Speaker 3: He didn't have community for it.
46:18
Speaker 2: Oh Memphis, look at that. That's how That's probably why
46:22
Speaker 2: his accent was so strong.
46:24
Speaker 1: Yeah.
46:26
Speaker 5: Yeah. He was a soldier from two thousand and five
46:27
Speaker 5: to twenty twelve Germany and Iraq, and an international affairs student.
46:31
Speaker 5: He calls himself a jack of all trades or some trades.
46:34
Speaker 5: So my jack of some trades. Weird dude, poor guy,
46:40
Speaker 5: we're sitting here making fun of him too. He had
46:44
Speaker 5: a rough childhood, man.
46:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, life is like a bugs chocolates.
46:51
Speaker 5: Sure is.
46:53
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if we could steer the conversation.
46:58
Speaker 2: You had one that you were going to ask on about?
47:01
Speaker 3: Oh, I was so another one that came up to
47:04
Speaker 3: me when I was kind of thinking about some of
47:06
Speaker 3: these huge events that were highly publicized.
47:09
Speaker 5: The O. J.
47:10
Speaker 3: Simpson killings, to me, always had that element to it.
47:13
Speaker 3: In fact, it is the prototype of the modern day
47:15
Speaker 3: publicized celebrity trial. That was kind of like it was
47:20
Speaker 3: the first one I can remember. But I, you know,
47:21
Speaker 3: I haven't been alive as long as you John, So
47:24
Speaker 3: was that like unique when that happened to you? And
47:26
Speaker 3: did you have triggers go off there?
47:30
Speaker 1: That was? It was? That's That's an interesting one to
47:33
Speaker 1: bring up because that was kind of one of the
47:37
Speaker 1: did we did we talk about that whole You know,
47:40
Speaker 1: the celebrities, you know when they when they play characters,
47:44
Speaker 1: you know, they're Jerry Seinfeld character, which is Jerry Seinfeld
47:46
Speaker 1: real person. It's a a lot of times when when
47:52
Speaker 1: a when a a character is retired, that human that
47:58
Speaker 1: was playing that character, you know, say say the characters
48:01
Speaker 1: is retired, killed off or whatever. You know, there's still
48:04
Speaker 1: a human being in real life that now is out
48:07
Speaker 1: of a job because their character is killed off. So
48:12
Speaker 1: sometimes they the industry will these are actors, by the way,
48:15
Speaker 1: this is not you know, I mean, they're playing a
48:18
Speaker 1: part and so they get another part and they're playing
48:23
Speaker 1: something else, and a lot of times they will you know,
48:26
Speaker 1: severely alter their appearance. Sometimes they will slightly alter their appearance.
48:32
Speaker 1: I think one of the one of the better examples
48:36
Speaker 1: of that is the Jonathan Price the current Pope when
48:42
Speaker 1: too many people Jonathan Price is a pretty well known
48:46
Speaker 1: English actor that I believe is also playing the Pope.
48:53
Speaker 1: So many people caught that because they didn't do anything.
48:55
Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll change the ear lob, theyll do ear lob surgery,
48:58
Speaker 1: or they'll you know, do some something with the jaw
49:00
Speaker 1: line or changed the nose or whatever, but they didn't
49:04
Speaker 1: do anything with him. Same same just here Jonathan Price.
49:08
Speaker 1: So many people caught onto that that they actually made
49:10
Speaker 1: a Netflix special about the Pope starring Jonathan Price. It's
49:14
Speaker 1: a draw so that people it was kind of like
49:18
Speaker 1: that Capricorn one moon landing thing. It's like it's like
49:20
Speaker 1: if you say, you're just talking about the movie Capricorn one,
49:25
Speaker 1: you know, and so, But back to the OJ thing,
49:30
Speaker 1: I will say this, Uh, do do do a Google search,
49:35
Speaker 1: you know, for Nicole Brown Simpson, and then do a
49:40
Speaker 1: Google search for Megan Kelly and see if you if
49:46
Speaker 1: you notice any any similarities at all.
49:49
Speaker 3: John, have you ever heard that Jim Morrison became Rush Limbaugh.
49:55
Speaker 1: No, I've heard them. I haven't heard Rush the Rush
49:59
Speaker 1: Limbaugh thing. I've the Jim Morrison becomes Chevy Chase.
50:03
Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't heard that one.
50:05
Speaker 2: I actually have something I want to ask John about too.
50:08
Speaker 3: Okay, he's for questions.
50:11
Speaker 2: I watched. I don't know if it was the one Ryan,
50:15
Speaker 2: I don't know if you were in on it or
50:16
Speaker 2: if it was the first one you did with just Colby.
50:19
Speaker 2: But I watched a couple of the episodes where you
50:23
Speaker 2: guys were talking about celebrities being like secretly men and
50:27
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and then they Okay, I've studied a
50:31
Speaker 2: lot about bone structure and physical markers, like if you
50:35
Speaker 2: if someone found a skeleton that was a fucking skeleton.
50:39
Speaker 2: They could tell you if it was a woman or
50:40
Speaker 2: if it was a man, just based on skeleton. And
50:43
Speaker 2: I've looked into that quite extensively, and a lot of
50:46
Speaker 2: people and I'm with Ryan. I don't like to say community,
50:49
Speaker 2: but a lot of conspiracy theorists in our group will like, Oh,
50:54
Speaker 2: you're crazy. There's no way that was a man. There's
50:57
Speaker 2: no way that was a chick. Da da da. But
50:59
Speaker 2: the confuse and and like the inversion is super real and.
51:06
Speaker 1: One of the pers of their religion, right.
51:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I've looked at Nicole Brown Simpson in
51:12
Speaker 2: many videos and many photos, and she has all the
51:15
Speaker 2: physical markers of being male at birth. She's got the
51:19
Speaker 2: jaw line and the bone structure of a biological male.
51:24
Speaker 2: And I'll even pull up pictures of Nicole Brown Simpson
51:27
Speaker 2: and show them the jaw line and the fingers, the kneecaps.
51:30
Speaker 2: And she was tall too. And so the kids don't
51:34
Speaker 2: really look like her at all. And I mean, I
51:38
Speaker 2: get it in a racial kids sometimes they don't look
51:40
Speaker 2: like the mom or whatever, but the kids at all.
51:45
Speaker 2: And so I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
51:48
Speaker 2: Like with Nicole, I will.
51:53
Speaker 1: I will go as far to say that at this
51:57
Speaker 1: point in my lovefe seeing and experiencing what I have,
52:03
Speaker 1: and I actually I will. I'm not going to uh,
52:07
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into specifics, but you know,
52:11
Speaker 1: I spent my entire adult life in the music industry,
52:16
Speaker 1: and I have worked behind the scenes with some pretty
52:20
Speaker 1: major acts, and I've seen it with my own eyes.
52:26
Speaker 1: I've seen how someone is one human being is being
52:31
Speaker 1: presented as two completely different celebrities. So you know, if
52:38
Speaker 1: I had any doubt, I've seen it with my own eyes,
52:42
Speaker 1: so I know that it is happening. I've actually seen
52:44
Speaker 1: it with my own eyes on more than one occasion.
52:47
Speaker 2: But I really should pull up pictures of Nicole to
52:52
Speaker 2: just kind of drive this point home. Let me see
52:55
Speaker 2: if or Ryan, if you want.
52:56
Speaker 1: To, that is the common and thread amongst all of
53:01
Speaker 1: the you look at you, the people they call the elites,
53:05
Speaker 1: they're all Eugenesists. They're they're all into that, you know,
53:08
Speaker 1: eugenesis agenda. They're in the eugenics, that transhumanism, all of
53:13
Speaker 1: that stuff, And it's it's an inversion. The topic of
53:18
Speaker 1: inversion is a pillar of that belief. Up is down,
53:22
Speaker 1: right is left, black is white, boy is.
53:25
Speaker 2: And who did you say that Nicole turned into?
53:29
Speaker 1: Well, I know, I just look, there's so much of
53:33
Speaker 1: that character like recycling. I'm just calling it recycling. Or
53:41
Speaker 1: we don't think twice when we see somebody like Brad
53:45
Speaker 1: Pitt playing different characters in different movies, there's Brad Pitt
53:49
Speaker 1: the actor, and he plays it. You know, we we don't,
53:51
Speaker 1: you know, we don't really think that Brad Pitt is TYLERL. Durden.
53:55
Speaker 1: He played Tyler Durdon.
53:58
Speaker 5: Right, So.
54:01
Speaker 1: That if it happens in the movies and these all
54:05
Speaker 1: if why was why does that only happen in the movies?
54:08
Speaker 1: Why would that not happen in news, in sports, in
54:12
Speaker 1: any entertainment Because you're not really there anyways, you're just
54:16
Speaker 1: watching it on a screen. And so when when they
54:20
Speaker 1: when they have to retire a character for whatever reason,
54:25
Speaker 1: there's still a human being that was playing that character,
54:28
Speaker 1: that is an employee that needs another job to do.
54:31
Speaker 1: And so I think that they are given other jobs.
54:34
Speaker 1: And that's not conspiratorial, that is not it's just part
54:40
Speaker 1: of its show business. Okay, Now they don't whole trial.
54:43
Speaker 2: The whole oj trial was show business. And they're freaking
54:47
Speaker 2: race thing and freaking Kim Kardashian's freaking dad in like
54:52
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
54:53
Speaker 1: That's really launched, it launched that into the public conscious
54:56
Speaker 1: public consciousness. And so now out of the OJ trial,
54:59
Speaker 1: we now have the Kardashians who are in my opinion,
55:02
Speaker 1: those are all men, all of them.
55:05
Speaker 2: Oh John, you fucking said it, all.
55:08
Speaker 1: Of them breaking back now, not just Daddy, not not
55:14
Speaker 1: just Bruce, all of them those are all trans And
55:18
Speaker 1: you know what, because of and because of the transhumanism
55:23
Speaker 1: eugenic agenda, you almost like it's it's becoming normalized. It's
55:30
Speaker 1: becoming normalized, like ten years ago when I you know,
55:33
Speaker 1: I I have a I have a friend who thinks
55:36
Speaker 1: that Jennifer Maniston is the most beautiful.
55:39
Speaker 6: Woman on It's a dude, You're a boss it dude,
55:47
Speaker 6: Like it's been going on a long time, a long time.
55:51
Speaker 2: I mean, it starts to become more abundantly evident to me,
55:57
Speaker 2: Like if you look at pictures of Jennifer Aniston right
55:59
Speaker 2: now as she's aging, like the fucking the work is
56:03
Speaker 2: falling apart and like the bone, yeah, it.
56:07
Speaker 1: Gets it gets Look at I mean, look at Nicole.
56:09
Speaker 2: Goman, obvious, it's look at you know, well, you know
56:13
Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't really bring this up and
56:17
Speaker 2: like talk about it as much as they should have.
56:19
Speaker 2: But Chloe Kardashian went from like a sexy looking like
56:24
Speaker 2: thicker chick with like her own kind of individuality from
56:27
Speaker 2: the other Kardashians overnight she starts like it's like they
56:32
Speaker 2: gave her a new skeleton or some ship. Like she
56:34
Speaker 2: doesn't even look like the same person. But that's what
56:37
Speaker 2: I'm saying, is like they can do whatever they want
56:39
Speaker 2: with that ship.
56:40
Speaker 1: I mean, how many different Stephen Hawkins. There's like five
56:44
Speaker 1: different Stephen Hawkins, you know, it's Hillary Clinton's how many
56:50
Speaker 1: different adeles look at like currently there's been like four
56:54
Speaker 1: or five different adeles.
56:55
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to believe that because I really
56:59
Speaker 2: I really would hope she just last.
57:01
Speaker 3: And like John wants to think that ice cube is legit?
57:04
Speaker 3: Do you still John, know after like the last year,
57:07
Speaker 3: because it's been about a year since we talked, and
57:09
Speaker 3: I give you.
57:12
Speaker 1: I'm I'm holding in. I'm holding in. I want to
57:14
Speaker 1: if that's gonna that's gonna hurt me if I if
57:16
Speaker 1: I find out that cubes in on all of this.
57:19
Speaker 3: I want to believe you know, if you don't see it. Now,
57:23
Speaker 3: I don't know if you say he doesn't know.
57:24
Speaker 1: About it, but but I do. I do think that
57:26
Speaker 1: there are there, there are those that have somehow, some
57:30
Speaker 1: way been able to do what they do in in
57:34
Speaker 1: in entertainment and for whatever reason, they're allowed to.
57:40
Speaker 2: About Ice Cube in particular, did you like really like
57:43
Speaker 2: the Friday movies or something like?
57:46
Speaker 1: I meaning if I said I Friday word for word,
57:50
Speaker 1: But no, I just I just I'm a I am
57:53
Speaker 1: a like a pro level music nerd. I have you
57:58
Speaker 1: know that my half of our bedroom is all like
58:01
Speaker 1: record bins, and you know, like like I like, I'm deep,
58:04
Speaker 1: deep into in the music. And you know, the the
58:07
Speaker 1: nw A record, Yeah, it was was just hugely influential
58:12
Speaker 1: to me. I loved that record. Now, I don't like
58:15
Speaker 1: who any of those people became later in life, you know,
58:19
Speaker 1: I I don't think I could even be in the
58:22
Speaker 1: same room with Dre without wanting to just like take
58:25
Speaker 1: a baseball bat to him. But but but you know,
58:29
Speaker 1: but but Cube there was always he was always my favorite,
58:31
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was my favorite of him,
58:33
Speaker 1: and I really loved what he did with his solo career.
58:35
Speaker 1: And you know, and he always seemed like one of
58:38
Speaker 1: those guys that like they just kind of left him
58:40
Speaker 1: alone and let him do it, let him do his thing.
58:43
Speaker 3: Well.
58:43
Speaker 2: I literally brought up em and m before too, and
58:46
Speaker 2: I have my own kind of theory about it. I
58:48
Speaker 2: know you do too, But I almost feel like when
58:51
Speaker 2: they take a celebrity or a musician and they start
58:54
Speaker 2: to do the bleaching of the hair and like the
58:56
Speaker 2: weirdness like that, that it's almost signaling like like the
59:02
Speaker 2: lights are on but nobody's home. Like they've been fully indoctrinated,
59:05
Speaker 2: They've fully programmed. And so I don't know as much
59:09
Speaker 2: about like they switched him out as much as it's like, Okay,
59:12
Speaker 2: we fully controlled this person. Now you see it again
59:16
Speaker 2: and again with the bleached hair like Lady Gaga, Britney Spears,
59:19
Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan, Eminem, they all went through this bleached hair,
59:23
Speaker 2: crazy eyed, fucking weirdo phase. And it's like, I don't
59:27
Speaker 2: know if they've swapped it out necessarily, but like they've been,
59:30
Speaker 2: they're they're fucking not.
59:32
Speaker 1: I would, in my opinion, I don't think. I don't
59:36
Speaker 1: think Marshall Mathers has been swapped out. I just think
59:39
Speaker 1: he's been he's been drugged up and lobottomized, and you know,
59:44
Speaker 1: I mean he is he is. He is an asset.
59:48
Speaker 5: He doesn't even wrap the same as he used to.
59:50
Speaker 5: It's not the same like kind of flow. And I understand,
59:53
Speaker 5: you know, musicians can evolve and stuff, but his work
59:56
Speaker 5: is not the same as it used to be whatsoever.
1:00:00
Speaker 5: Real quick, I'm gonna show you guys my favorite body
1:00:02
Speaker 5: double conspiracy real fast. But he's still del Toro and
1:00:05
Speaker 5: fucking h brad there.
1:00:07
Speaker 3: I brought this up to Julia.
1:00:09
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
1:00:12
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, people, people.
1:00:14
Speaker 3: Will argue they're dude. They both were in the movie Snatch. Well,
1:00:17
Speaker 3: first of all, they didn't have a fucking scene together,
1:00:19
Speaker 3: and secondly, Eddie Murphy does that ship all the time.
1:00:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can fucking Michael Myers too, right, I mean,
1:00:24
Speaker 5: the dude's eighty different characters in one movie.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, bastard, it's show business. These they're doing what they're
1:00:31
Speaker 1: paid to do.
1:00:33
Speaker 5: Right m h yeah. Man, Yeah, that's just my favorite
1:00:36
Speaker 5: one because I never thought about that.
1:00:39
Speaker 3: I always thought when Benzio started to get big in
1:00:41
Speaker 3: the nineties, like god, he looks just like Brad Pitt
1:00:44
Speaker 3: with a little more ruggedness to him and easied enough
1:00:49
Speaker 3: to pull off.
1:00:50
Speaker 1: I just think about it.
1:00:51
Speaker 3: Oh, I've got a good one. So I was listening
1:00:54
Speaker 3: to this Cult of Conspiracy. They had a guy on
1:00:56
Speaker 3: there that was all into body doubles. He had some
1:00:58
Speaker 3: awesome theories about Jim Carry we could get into. But
1:01:02
Speaker 3: he said something about Cedric the entertainer being Martin Lawrence
1:01:06
Speaker 3: and I was like, no, they don't even look like
1:01:08
Speaker 3: at all. And then we watched a movie that week,
1:01:10
Speaker 3: Haunted House, that the Wayne's brothers put out. It's like
1:01:14
Speaker 3: it mocks the horror movies and Cedric the entertainers in there.
1:01:18
Speaker 3: So that shit's fresh on my mind and I'm looking
1:01:21
Speaker 3: at him. I'm like, that is fucking Martin Lawrence in
1:01:23
Speaker 3: a fat suit, the eyes of the fucking mannerisms, the voice,
1:01:27
Speaker 3: and that guy said that. I laughed, and he ended
1:01:30
Speaker 3: up convincing me kind of like Bill Hicks.
1:01:33
Speaker 2: I'm still not convinced on that one. You know what, well,
1:01:41
Speaker 2: I will tell you why, John, I will tell you
1:01:44
Speaker 2: why we.
1:01:45
Speaker 3: Had an argument.
1:01:46
Speaker 2: Lest we did have an argument because because fat bags
1:01:50
Speaker 2: under your eyes are hereditary, and Bill Hicks doesn't have
1:01:54
Speaker 2: the fat bags that Alex Jones quote unquote has even
1:01:57
Speaker 2: in that very first video of Alex Jones that I
1:02:01
Speaker 2: saw that you posted the fat bags hereditary.
1:02:07
Speaker 1: Why could you not?
1:02:08
Speaker 2: You could botox that, like fill it up to make
1:02:11
Speaker 2: it look like the fat bags.
1:02:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so very sorry.
1:02:15
Speaker 2: The nose is different, so the teeth. The teeth also
1:02:19
Speaker 2: bothered me.
1:02:20
Speaker 3: They're the same.
1:02:20
Speaker 2: I think they're different.
1:02:22
Speaker 3: The voice analysis is also very interesting, Yeah, they are. Ryan.
1:02:26
Speaker 3: What do you say on that one? Phil Hicks Alex Jones.
1:02:30
Speaker 5: Dude, I I think it's very plausible because Alex Jones
1:02:32
Speaker 5: looks a lot older than fifty years old.
1:02:34
Speaker 3: Dude. That was one key thing for me too when
1:02:37
Speaker 3: I first looked him up, when I was interested in
1:02:38
Speaker 3: his work when he first emerged, I was like, that
1:02:41
Speaker 3: guy's ten years older than me. He looks like he
1:02:43
Speaker 3: could be my fucking like old dad.
1:02:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, he looks like he's seventy.
1:02:49
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me post something here. This
1:02:52
Speaker 1: this is specific to the the Bill Hicks Alex Jones thing.
1:02:56
Speaker 1: And and again I'm not I'm not going to use
1:03:00
Speaker 1: a specific name, but this is someone that we all
1:03:04
Speaker 1: are very aware of. Big, big, big, big celebrity that
1:03:10
Speaker 1: I worked alongside for a couple of years. I do
1:03:14
Speaker 1: know that this what I'm about to tell you occurs.
1:03:18
Speaker 1: This celebrity, very very very very very famous, very well known,
1:03:25
Speaker 1: was not The brand of this person was pretty pretty
1:03:30
Speaker 1: squeaky clean, and this person wanted to keep it that way.
1:03:35
Speaker 1: And the industry, the powers that be were wanting this
1:03:38
Speaker 1: person to move into different verticals so to speak, that
1:03:42
Speaker 1: this person was not comfortable with doing. And so ah,
1:03:47
Speaker 1: there was a talk, there were some negotiations, and this
1:03:51
Speaker 1: person was given some options, and one of the options was.
1:04:00
Speaker 3: Two.
1:04:00
Speaker 1: You can continue to be an employee and we'll keep
1:04:09
Speaker 1: you employed, but not at what you're accustomed to. Now
1:04:13
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're, you're gonna you're, you're, Your opportunities
1:04:16
Speaker 1: are going to significantly decrease, and you can continue and
1:04:21
Speaker 1: you can just do what you want. And uh, you're
1:04:23
Speaker 1: just gonna sign this NBA about this conversation. You'll never
1:04:26
Speaker 1: speak of it again. And you could you could go
1:04:28
Speaker 1: that route. You could you could completely play ball with
1:04:34
Speaker 1: us and uh, come on board and then do what
1:04:39
Speaker 1: we've discussed, or we can basically kill off the character.
1:04:46
Speaker 1: Kill kill off your character publicly or and and and
1:04:50
Speaker 1: and then we'll just you'll get nothing in royalties and
1:04:53
Speaker 1: we'll make tons because we'll be people buying your stuff.
1:04:57
Speaker 1: The fourth option was you can sell out to us.
1:05:02
Speaker 1: We'll just buy you out and put somebody else. You'll
1:05:08
Speaker 1: your character will continue on, but it'll be somebody else.
1:05:12
Speaker 3: Hey, what happens without asking you who this is? Is
1:05:15
Speaker 3: this somebody we would know? Like households? Oh? Absolutely?
1:05:20
Speaker 2: Are you going to reveal the name the Taylor Swift?
1:05:27
Speaker 1: Well that I'm also I could go downstairs and get
1:05:30
Speaker 1: you a picture that I that Taylor gave me the
1:05:34
Speaker 1: day me, about five six other people, her father, and
1:05:39
Speaker 1: a small a small team of us stuffed CDs into
1:05:43
Speaker 1: padded envelopes to send them send radio for her very
1:05:46
Speaker 1: first single. Tim McGraw, So, I've actually seen the Taylor
1:05:51
Speaker 1: Swift story from the get.
1:05:54
Speaker 3: Go and prototype.
1:05:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and I and I and I can,
1:06:02
Speaker 1: I can, I can say with utmost certainty that the
1:06:05
Speaker 1: person that's the photo that I have that signed and
1:06:08
Speaker 1: you can see uh and and I would love you
1:06:12
Speaker 1: talk jaw lines and factual structures. What what is being
1:06:16
Speaker 1: presented publicly now?
1:06:19
Speaker 3: It's the guy that played Napoleon dynamite, not even he's
1:06:22
Speaker 3: the current.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: John Hetter. What I get behind that?
1:06:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, Well, I actually I told Colby when
1:06:33
Speaker 2: I heard you say that, and then I want you
1:06:34
Speaker 2: to finish your story actually because I'm really interested in
1:06:38
Speaker 2: how that turned out. But I worked for a doctor
1:06:43
Speaker 2: and she is, uh, she's a general surgeon, but she's
1:06:47
Speaker 2: also a prostadantist. And she said Taylor Swift has had
1:06:51
Speaker 2: the same veneers since she first came onto the scene
1:06:56
Speaker 2: until now.
1:06:57
Speaker 3: Same veneers.
1:06:58
Speaker 2: Veneers you can just and she's got like her gun
1:07:02
Speaker 2: lines are starting to receive because she needs new veneers.
1:07:05
Speaker 2: And so that did like how far do you think
1:07:09
Speaker 2: they'd take it? Like if they switched out the real tailor,
1:07:11
Speaker 2: would they put the same teeth on them? Or like
1:07:14
Speaker 2: how far do you think it goes?
1:07:18
Speaker 1: I think that there are probably more than one stage
1:07:22
Speaker 1: and TV tailors at this point. I think they probably have,
1:07:27
Speaker 1: you know, a couple again, you know, I think in
1:07:31
Speaker 1: one of our previous conversations Colby, that I mean, I mean,
1:07:35
Speaker 1: I mean it was in the news when his body
1:07:38
Speaker 1: double died, you know, I mean that's what they said
1:07:41
Speaker 1: that that guy appeared as eminem on stage and awards,
1:07:44
Speaker 1: ceremonies and stuff. So we know that that happens, and
1:07:48
Speaker 1: why wouldn't it. It's show business, you know, Well.
1:07:51
Speaker 2: Do you think the real tailor pops up every now
1:07:53
Speaker 2: and again, like for photos or.
1:07:56
Speaker 1: Something, or if you are, if you're asking my personal
1:08:00
Speaker 1: opinion on Taylor Swift in particular, based upon my experience,
1:08:06
Speaker 1: I would say that it is not outside the rem
1:08:08
Speaker 1: of possibility that the real Taylor Swift got bought out
1:08:13
Speaker 1: and is probably chilling on some remote beach somewhere with
1:08:18
Speaker 1: with Tom Petty and David Bowie.
1:08:23
Speaker 3: Cornell is really dead though, right O.
1:08:26
Speaker 1: Gosh, unfortunately, I think I think Cornell is yeah.
1:08:29
Speaker 2: Because he was getting smart about some ship. But anyways,
1:08:31
Speaker 2: back to your story about the.
1:08:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this person decided to play ball, and now
1:08:41
Speaker 1: this person is not squeaky clean anymore and or is
1:08:46
Speaker 1: doing things that that they would not have wanted to
1:08:51
Speaker 1: do without being coerced and and.
1:08:54
Speaker 2: Four songs we.
1:08:58
Speaker 1: Uh I uh yeah yeah, but but these are these
1:09:02
Speaker 1: are business. I mean again, this type of stuff happens
1:09:05
Speaker 1: in business every single day. I mean, you know, I
1:09:08
Speaker 1: mean we have all worked for people, and you know
1:09:11
Speaker 1: I have I have had you know, people that I've
1:09:14
Speaker 1: worked for, you know, call me into the office and go, John,
1:09:16
Speaker 1: we we want you to do this, or you know,
1:09:18
Speaker 1: we're we're gonna, we're gonna reassign you and put you here,
1:09:21
Speaker 1: and you know, and and you either go, yeah, I'll
1:09:25
Speaker 1: do it, or you go no, I quit. And in
1:09:29
Speaker 1: in the case of these celebrity scenarios, you can't just
1:09:34
Speaker 1: quit because there's there's non disclosure agreements and and confidentiality
1:09:39
Speaker 1: scenarios and and so they they will, you know, if
1:09:44
Speaker 1: if if you've reached in order to reach a certain
1:09:49
Speaker 1: level of celebrity, those conversations have already taken place.
1:09:53
Speaker 3: So and they're also saying that they don't necessarily ever
1:09:56
Speaker 3: really have to kill them, like actually take the person out.
1:09:59
Speaker 3: But do you think sometimes they might?
1:10:01
Speaker 1: I think sometimes they do, But I but I think
1:10:04
Speaker 1: it's a choice. You know, It's like Colby, if you've
1:10:06
Speaker 1: been a good employee but you're honestly just burnt out
1:10:09
Speaker 1: or your heart's just not in it anymore, and you
1:10:12
Speaker 1: come to me and you go, man, I don't think
1:10:14
Speaker 1: I can do this anymore. Based upon your value and
1:10:18
Speaker 1: what we got going on and how much money is
1:10:20
Speaker 1: at stake, I might let you walk, you know.
1:10:23
Speaker 2: If you the story that they were telling in A
1:10:26
Speaker 2: Star is Born, like the first one I think had
1:10:28
Speaker 2: Judy Garland in it, but this the remake of it
1:10:32
Speaker 2: had Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga.
1:10:35
Speaker 1: I've never well, I think the first one had had
1:10:37
Speaker 1: Barbara Streissan.
1:10:39
Speaker 2: I did it.
1:10:40
Speaker 3: No, that was the second one. It was actually has
1:10:43
Speaker 3: there has that been? Movies been made three times? Yes,
1:10:46
Speaker 3: so remakes Chris Christopherson and Barbara streisand was the remake
1:10:51
Speaker 3: and then the second game makes.
1:10:52
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that the streyssand Christofferson one was
1:10:55
Speaker 1: a remake.
1:10:55
Speaker 3: I thought that was me Garland played the original role.
1:10:58
Speaker 2: It's gonna say, I think that's significant because of what
1:11:00
Speaker 2: they did to her, like throughout her entire life, that
1:11:03
Speaker 2: they would choose her for that movie and then later
1:11:06
Speaker 2: on choose Lady Gaga because I mean, there's so many
1:11:10
Speaker 2: theories about her. I could find.
1:11:12
Speaker 5: Nothing ruins a movie like Lady Gaga does nothing ruins
1:11:16
Speaker 5: a movie. Worse, She's the worst.
1:11:18
Speaker 2: But I mean that Joe Kibber is supposedly good.
1:11:22
Speaker 1: No, I'm not a fan of him either.
1:11:27
Speaker 3: There we go. I mean that one's like actually low
1:11:30
Speaker 3: hanging frans inversion route because fucking family guy even had
1:11:36
Speaker 3: a joke about it. So that one, to me is
1:11:38
Speaker 3: almost like they just put it in their face.
1:11:40
Speaker 2: They did an interview and they asked, so what if
1:11:46
Speaker 2: I am like pretty much saying.
1:11:49
Speaker 5: An answer, yeah, well yeah, that's also like the transagenda, right,
1:11:54
Speaker 5: Like that's something that even if she was like a
1:11:55
Speaker 5: check she would say that because, like I was seeing
1:11:58
Speaker 5: this thing with Ariana Grande. She was talking about how
1:12:00
Speaker 5: the new Wicked movie is like fully trans like even
1:12:03
Speaker 5: the chickens in the movie or trains and all this
1:12:05
Speaker 5: weird shit, so strange, but.
1:12:07
Speaker 1: Right from the horse's mouth right right, like talk about
1:12:11
Speaker 1: a square draw line man that oh on Disney. She
1:12:16
Speaker 1: on Disney.
1:12:16
Speaker 5: She looked like a little boy when she was on
1:12:18
Speaker 5: Disney shows. John, you were saying something earlier before before
1:12:23
Speaker 5: we moved too far away from it. You know, you
1:12:25
Speaker 5: were talking about, uh, you know, you have these options
1:12:28
Speaker 5: when you're a celebrity and you're wanting to like kind
1:12:30
Speaker 5: of phase out or whatever. Have any of you guys
1:12:32
Speaker 5: seen the Substance movie yet? The movie called the Substance.
1:12:36
Speaker 5: It's a great I recommend it to you. Guys man,
1:12:38
Speaker 5: Demi Moore is like an old another one. Yeah, well, yeah,
1:12:43
Speaker 5: I know she's got that's another one. But Demi Moore
1:12:47
Speaker 5: is like aging out of Hollywood, and it looks like
1:12:50
Speaker 5: it takes place in like the eighties or something. They're
1:12:52
Speaker 5: doing a lot of those like live exercise shows where
1:12:54
Speaker 5: you know, the girls are wearing bright colors and they're
1:12:57
Speaker 5: doing you know, jazz er size and she wants to
1:13:01
Speaker 5: like she's basically getting fired from her gig, from this
1:13:04
Speaker 5: piece of ship producer, and she wants to make herself
1:13:07
Speaker 5: young and she gets this thing called the substance that
1:13:09
Speaker 5: can make her young. And it's a fucking great movie.
1:13:12
Speaker 5: The end of it turns into like a Guar concert.
1:13:15
Speaker 5: It gets kind of wild, but it's.
1:13:17
Speaker 1: Haunted by adrenochrome.
1:13:20
Speaker 5: I mean it, it's not a drenochrome.
1:13:23
Speaker 1: It's it's that would be a nice gar you know,
1:13:26
Speaker 1: Kien where you got the blood.
1:13:28
Speaker 5: And well no, yeah, the end of it is just
1:13:31
Speaker 5: like I said, if you watch it, man, you'll understand
1:13:33
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about. It it looks like a Gore concert.
1:13:35
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's not an adrenochrome thing, but it's similar.
1:13:39
Speaker 5: And I don't want to give any away, but I
1:13:41
Speaker 5: recommend to all you guys because it's a it's a
1:13:43
Speaker 5: phenomenal movie, even if you got to pay like three
1:13:45
Speaker 5: bucks or whatever to rent it or I mean there's
1:13:47
Speaker 5: free streaming sites all over the place, but yeah, watch
1:13:49
Speaker 5: that movie asap.
1:13:50
Speaker 2: So is it like the concept is swapping out like
1:13:53
Speaker 2: the old blood for the new blood, And like.
1:13:56
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to get into it at
1:13:57
Speaker 5: all because when you see what happens, it's not it's
1:14:02
Speaker 5: not at all. Like if I even like told you
1:14:04
Speaker 5: what it was, it would like be like, oh okay.
1:14:06
Speaker 5: But I mean it's it's worth a watch for sure.
1:14:09
Speaker 5: And if you guys want to watch it for free,
1:14:11
Speaker 5: I got the free hookup on movie sites. It's a
1:14:13
Speaker 5: you know, bootleg side. They're all over the place, so
1:14:18
Speaker 5: let me know. But yeah, it's where it's worth the watch.
1:14:20
Speaker 2: No, for sure.
1:14:22
Speaker 5: The substance nice.
1:14:25
Speaker 1: Appreciate the tip.
1:14:26
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, if you're in any of this kind of
1:14:29
Speaker 5: stuff like the body doubles, the you know, even even
1:14:33
Speaker 5: a dream of chrome, even though it's not a dream
1:14:34
Speaker 5: of chrome, it's it's it's a movie for a lot
1:14:36
Speaker 5: of people in this world.
1:14:40
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of like I obviously haven't seen it,
1:14:43
Speaker 2: but like when I watched Doctor Sleep for the first time,
1:14:46
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is like conspiracy
1:14:49
Speaker 2: theorist fucking dream movie right here. It had so much shit.
1:14:52
Speaker 1: Did you watch it, John, No, I actually kind of
1:14:55
Speaker 1: have a no, a no Hollywood policy I got. I
1:14:58
Speaker 1: got burned by hollywo Would early in life, and I
1:15:01
Speaker 1: was like, I'm never giving them another minute. Yeah, you know,
1:15:04
Speaker 1: or anything. I will if if I'm researching something, and
1:15:09
Speaker 1: and and it's you know, I have to know what
1:15:11
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, I will, But no.
1:15:14
Speaker 3: For not for you, not for your leisure.
1:15:17
Speaker 5: So you're not going to watch the substance. Then that's.
1:15:25
Speaker 1: First of all, Ryan, I was being polite. Secondly, I
1:15:27
Speaker 1: appreciate that exactly. Secondly, I actually I probably will since
1:15:33
Speaker 1: you you you've piqued my interest with the subject matter,
1:15:35
Speaker 1: and that might be a nice reference to using a
1:15:38
Speaker 1: later conversation, so.
1:15:39
Speaker 3: Research research purposes. There you go ask you what do
1:15:43
Speaker 3: you think because obviously you were burned by Hollywood. But
1:15:47
Speaker 3: one of my favorite things, as well as Julie and
1:15:50
Speaker 3: Ray and I'm sure you have intense interest in this.
1:15:53
Speaker 3: It's the topic of Stanley Kubrick, and I mean, what,
1:15:57
Speaker 3: what's your whole take on all of that stuff?
1:15:59
Speaker 1: Like? Who was he?
1:16:00
Speaker 3: What was he indo? Was he intelligence? Was he a
1:16:02
Speaker 3: fucking asset?
1:16:04
Speaker 2: Was he a pedo?
1:16:06
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it have been awesome to talk to Stanley Kubrick
1:16:08
Speaker 1: about Laurel Canyon? Ooh, about anything?
1:16:13
Speaker 3: Man? Both of you guys. Writer Lee just did a
1:16:16
Speaker 3: movie a Clockwork Shining is what it's called. You have
1:16:20
Speaker 3: to rent it on Amazon Prime documentary. Yeah, it's a
1:16:23
Speaker 3: documentary about Kubrick making The Shining and the whole theory
1:16:27
Speaker 3: about it being an mk ultra project. But it's interesting
1:16:30
Speaker 3: because he ties in Laurel Canyon, the book Catcher in
1:16:33
Speaker 3: the Rye and mk ult assassins and stuff like that.
1:16:36
Speaker 3: But it's really it brought some stuff to the forefront.
1:16:38
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard of it.
1:16:39
Speaker 2: Well, I know Ryan's into it because I this is
1:16:42
Speaker 2: forever ago. Ryan, you probably won't even remember. But I
1:16:45
Speaker 2: went on his show and I talked about like all
1:16:48
Speaker 2: the weird stuff in the Shining, and I think we
1:16:51
Speaker 2: both kind of had a theory on it. But Kubrick
1:16:53
Speaker 2: is like a fucking Pandora's Box.
1:16:57
Speaker 5: My favorite movie of his is freaking Eyes Wide Shut
1:17:00
Speaker 5: and a lot of people hate that movie, but I
1:17:01
Speaker 5: can watch that movie over and over again, man, Like
1:17:04
Speaker 5: I usually put it on at night when I'm tired
1:17:06
Speaker 5: because it's kind of slow. But oh what a good movie.
1:17:09
Speaker 5: Mm hmm everything in there?
1:17:12
Speaker 1: Is that really a favorite of yours? Right? Yeah?
1:17:15
Speaker 5: One hundred percent out of all his movies, Like, if
1:17:17
Speaker 5: I was ranking them, it'd be that. I like a
1:17:20
Speaker 5: clockwork orange lot shining.
1:17:22
Speaker 3: Clockwork Orange is my number one.
1:17:24
Speaker 5: It's great too.
1:17:26
Speaker 1: The reason reason I asked is, I, uh, you know,
1:17:29
Speaker 1: I having worked in the music industry my whole life
1:17:32
Speaker 1: and being a collector of pop culture. I have hundreds
1:17:36
Speaker 1: of thousands of pieces of pop culture history and I'm
1:17:39
Speaker 1: recently going through just thousands and thousands of posters that
1:17:43
Speaker 1: I have, And I just found a nick I used
1:17:46
Speaker 1: to work. I used to work for the management company
1:17:49
Speaker 1: that manages Keith Urban, and I was on Keith Urban's
1:17:52
Speaker 1: team for for years doing some web stuff. And so
1:17:57
Speaker 1: I've actually and he and Nicole our residents, uh here
1:18:02
Speaker 1: in Nashville, and so they're they're spotted about town on
1:18:07
Speaker 1: a regular basis and nic yeah, yeah, So so I
1:18:12
Speaker 1: I was pulling out some nicole kidman posters to have mounted,
1:18:16
Speaker 1: and and and then I've got a buddy that has
1:18:18
Speaker 1: has a record shop and he sells a lot of
1:18:20
Speaker 1: this this stuff for me. And yeah, but but I
1:18:23
Speaker 1: found an eyes wide a couple of eyes wide shut
1:18:25
Speaker 1: posters if you if you're interested, man, I'll send you one.
1:18:28
Speaker 5: Oh I would love one. Yeah, what I mean, what
1:18:31
Speaker 5: are you charging.
1:18:33
Speaker 1: Dude, I'll send it to you, okay, gift Ryan, we're.
1:18:41
Speaker 3: In the back.
1:18:42
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, man, I'll send my address
1:18:45
Speaker 5: on the chat here.
1:18:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I don't want to put it out there forever.
1:18:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, publicly, John, this is and now I can docs
1:18:54
Speaker 3: Ryan and fucking stuck his house.
1:18:56
Speaker 5: And well do so you know what's crazy, man? I
1:19:00
Speaker 5: had an episode on the cartel and someone sent me
1:19:03
Speaker 5: my address. Someone fucking sent me my address?
1:19:06
Speaker 3: Are you serious?
1:19:07
Speaker 5: Yeah? And then like a couple of weeks after that,
1:19:10
Speaker 5: someone was following me around at work and shit, and
1:19:11
Speaker 5: I called the police and everything.
1:19:13
Speaker 3: Dude, it was fucking You're not one of those guys
1:19:14
Speaker 3: when you say something like that, I think you're being
1:19:16
Speaker 3: paranoid because you're like a reasonable guy. Yeah.
1:19:19
Speaker 5: Well yeah, and I carry a gun on me and stuff,
1:19:21
Speaker 5: and like this dude was following me. I'm like, I'm
1:19:23
Speaker 5: not trying to fucking use this thing, but yeah, it
1:19:25
Speaker 5: was at night, and it was it was when we
1:19:28
Speaker 5: were wearing masks and this dude was wearing a mask,
1:19:31
Speaker 5: he had a hoodie on. Uh, followed me out of
1:19:33
Speaker 5: the store. I got in my truck. He looked at
1:19:35
Speaker 5: my license plate and then got in his car, which
1:19:37
Speaker 5: was behind mine. And it was dark out still. You know,
1:19:40
Speaker 5: I was working at PEPSI, so we're servicing stores like
1:19:42
Speaker 5: five in.
1:19:43
Speaker 3: The so this was this was a while ago. That
1:19:44
Speaker 3: makes me feel better.
1:19:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, And and yeah, dude,
1:19:49
Speaker 5: like this guy, he's followed me out of the out
1:19:51
Speaker 5: of the parking lot with his lights off, his head
1:19:53
Speaker 5: lights off, and he's just like staying behind me. I
1:19:55
Speaker 5: turned around and I got out, and I carried my
1:19:58
Speaker 5: gun in a fanny pack and I held the f
1:20:00
Speaker 5: He probably just thought I was showing in my fanny pack,
1:20:03
Speaker 5: and I pointed out. I was like, dude, get the
1:20:04
Speaker 5: fuck away from me, man, And yeah, I was. It
1:20:07
Speaker 5: was very fucking scary and I usually don't get rattled
1:20:10
Speaker 5: by ship, but I even that morning, I woke up
1:20:13
Speaker 5: and I felt like I don't want to leave my
1:20:14
Speaker 5: house today like that, just for whatever reason, I felt
1:20:17
Speaker 5: real weird and uh and yeah that ended up happening. Man,
1:20:20
Speaker 5: it was pretty fucking scary. So I don't talk about
1:20:23
Speaker 5: the cartel anymore. And you guys, dangerous topic. Sorry, I
1:20:30
Speaker 5: guess I can't hit entry here. It's just gonna send
1:20:32
Speaker 5: me one line at a time.
1:20:35
Speaker 3: But yeah, John, I'd love to hear any overscoping like
1:20:40
Speaker 3: stuff about Kubrick you have. If if that's something you
1:20:42
Speaker 3: ever looked into the moon landing and all that shit.
1:20:45
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think he and again I wasn't kidding.
1:20:49
Speaker 1: I bet you he uh would have had some incredible
1:20:52
Speaker 1: insight into especially the you know the base that was
1:20:56
Speaker 1: there in Laurel Canyon that had you know that had
1:20:58
Speaker 1: the Lookout Mountain Studios, Yes State, which doesn't Jared Ledo
1:21:03
Speaker 1: own that building.
1:21:04
Speaker 3: He does now he has a cult up there, and
1:21:06
Speaker 3: he dresses like Jesus. He's like you with a beard
1:21:08
Speaker 3: in a white robe.
1:21:11
Speaker 5: Dude, Jared let is a weird guy. Man, I talk
1:21:14
Speaker 5: about good movies too, freaking what's the what's the drug?
1:21:18
Speaker 5: When he's in I can't believe.
1:21:19
Speaker 3: En for a Dream one of my top five movies.
1:21:22
Speaker 5: Re Queen for a Dream is great. It's disturbing as
1:21:24
Speaker 5: all hell, but really good movie.
1:21:27
Speaker 1: I think I think at that time there there weren't
1:21:30
Speaker 1: as many creatives that had the creativity and the technical
1:21:36
Speaker 1: ability that and and that Kubrick had. You know, it's
1:21:41
Speaker 1: now just because of the way communication is. You know,
1:21:43
Speaker 1: there's there's kids in garages and you know down the
1:21:47
Speaker 1: street that can that can do amazing things. But I
1:21:50
Speaker 1: think Kubrick was was tapped from an early age and
1:21:56
Speaker 1: and and was was an asset and was utilized and
1:22:01
Speaker 1: created content. And whether or not he knew what that
1:22:06
Speaker 1: content was gonna be used for or how it was
1:22:09
Speaker 1: going to be used, I think it's probably open for debate.
1:22:11
Speaker 1: But I think he was. He was probably probably tapped
1:22:15
Speaker 1: in an early age, probably maybe even born into it,
1:22:17
Speaker 1: and and that's just what he did. And and I
1:22:22
Speaker 1: think that these people that if you had if you
1:22:29
Speaker 1: have any remnants of a soul at all, and you
1:22:35
Speaker 1: have a conscience or just if you can feel if
1:22:39
Speaker 1: you know that you are contributing to something bad, nefarious,
1:22:46
Speaker 1: I think these these these people have to they have
1:22:50
Speaker 1: to express that somehow. I think it maybe karmically helps
1:22:55
Speaker 1: clear their conscience or you know, and so you've got
1:22:59
Speaker 1: you know, Kuber. You know, clearly, for whatever reason, left
1:23:03
Speaker 1: a lot of clues and a lot of you know,
1:23:07
Speaker 1: Easter eggs and things, and and clearly it wasn't just
1:23:12
Speaker 1: because he was a creative individual. There there was meaning
1:23:15
Speaker 1: behind it. I mean, look at you know, yeah, you've
1:23:19
Speaker 1: got the whole. You know Eric Schmidt who wrote nineteen
1:23:24
Speaker 1: eighty four under the pen name Orwell, you know, I
1:23:26
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, there there is no George Orwell.
1:23:31
Speaker 1: That's just that's just a pen name. It's just a
1:23:33
Speaker 1: stage name.
1:23:34
Speaker 3: He looks a lot like Henry Lee Lucas. Have you
1:23:37
Speaker 3: ever seen picture of George Orwell and Henry Lee Lucas
1:23:39
Speaker 3: side by side? Oh?
1:23:41
Speaker 1: But not you think, I mean I could see very similar.
1:23:45
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:23:45
Speaker 3: I mean another one that I thought was interesting is
1:23:48
Speaker 3: Terence mckinna and the Union bomber ted Kaczynski. Their voice,
1:23:53
Speaker 3: their voices are identical, and if you like, look at
1:23:55
Speaker 3: them side by side, they look different. But it doesn't
1:23:58
Speaker 3: seem like anything that could be impossible.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know again you're talking about characters.
1:24:04
Speaker 1: You know, the unibomber was a character. You know, it
1:24:08
Speaker 1: was a you know, well, I know you.
1:24:10
Speaker 2: You obviously can't be one hundred percent on this, so
1:24:13
Speaker 2: I just want your opinion. But there are so many
1:24:17
Speaker 2: different trains of thought on if Kubrick was involved to
1:24:22
Speaker 2: a certain degree himself in some of this weirdness, like
1:24:25
Speaker 2: the Peto stuff, and like some people think he's like
1:24:29
Speaker 2: a good guy that wasn't. But I mean some of
1:24:32
Speaker 2: the clues, as you were saying, in the movies, especially
1:24:35
Speaker 2: Eyes Wide Shut, allude to him knowing about it. Whether
1:24:38
Speaker 2: or not he took part in it, that's up for debate.
1:24:41
Speaker 2: But it's sex. You didn't see Doctor Sleep because it's
1:24:44
Speaker 2: just the continuation of the shining. And in my opinion,
1:24:48
Speaker 2: that's all the movie was about was pedophilia.
1:24:51
Speaker 3: It's a drenochrome. I mean, they take this, these young
1:24:55
Speaker 3: kids with this gift, the shining, and they drain them.
1:25:00
Speaker 3: I mean it's nice and shit like subtle.
1:25:03
Speaker 2: Suck this stuff out of the stab holes like it's
1:25:06
Speaker 2: fucked up.
1:25:07
Speaker 1: You know, the whole the whole topic of blood. That's
1:25:13
Speaker 1: you know, I'd said earlier in the earlier conversation, the
1:25:15
Speaker 1: the you call them the elite or whatever name you
1:25:19
Speaker 1: want to give that layer of the powers that shouldn't
1:25:21
Speaker 1: be I said, A common thread running through them is
1:25:25
Speaker 1: is they're all you know, they all love transhumanism, eugenics,
1:25:29
Speaker 1: stuff like. That's that's that's their their religion. And blood
1:25:33
Speaker 1: seems to be another common thread.
1:25:35
Speaker 3: Blood and children.
1:25:36
Speaker 1: Well, where do you get blood from? I mean, like
1:25:40
Speaker 1: like anything, if if if you if you want if
1:25:44
Speaker 1: you want lettuce, you want fresh lettuce, you don't want
1:25:46
Speaker 1: old lettuce. You know, if you want tomatoes, you want
1:25:49
Speaker 1: fresh tomatoes, you don't want old tomatoes. And so the
1:25:52
Speaker 1: blood thing that the child tie in just makes perfect
1:25:56
Speaker 1: sense because the best freshest blood would again using fruit
1:26:02
Speaker 1: or meat or any other analogy, you want young, fresh,
1:26:06
Speaker 1: whatever it is.
1:26:07
Speaker 5: And so.
1:26:08
Speaker 1: But but blood seems to be a common thread amongst them.
1:26:11
Speaker 1: They you know, I mean, Hollywood's been pretty open. I
1:26:15
Speaker 1: mean you've got celebrities that have bathed in it. They
1:26:18
Speaker 1: use it for cosmetically. I mean, I see commercials on TV,
1:26:25
Speaker 1: uh for you know serum, you know, face serum is
1:26:29
Speaker 1: look look at the definition of serum. It's blood, you know,
1:26:32
Speaker 1: So it's just a kinder more you know bougie way
1:26:37
Speaker 1: of saying blood, you know, and so so celebrities have
1:26:40
Speaker 1: been using blood cosmetically, and I can tell you, I
1:26:46
Speaker 1: can tell you with absolute certainty in my own life.
1:26:52
Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned my wife being handicapped. My wife
1:26:56
Speaker 1: and our youngest son happened to be the same blood type,
1:27:00
Speaker 1: which would make sense mother and son being the same
1:27:03
Speaker 1: blood type. When my son was seventeen, they took blood
1:27:10
Speaker 1: from my son, his young, vibrant blood, and injected it
1:27:15
Speaker 1: in key places into my wife and helped hurt some
1:27:19
Speaker 1: of her joints move and everything. So I mean, and
1:27:22
Speaker 1: they they do. I mean these that that's PRP, you know,
1:27:25
Speaker 1: plasma replacement there that they do this. I mean people
1:27:29
Speaker 1: do it for cosmetic reasons all the time. My wife
1:27:31
Speaker 1: did it for functionality reasons. But I mean, young blood
1:27:35
Speaker 1: introduced into an older body does have positive effects. You know,
1:27:41
Speaker 1: I've I've literally seen it with my own son. And
1:27:44
Speaker 1: and then please don't think that we belonged to some
1:27:46
Speaker 1: weird blood called by professionals. His name was Larry. You
1:27:52
Speaker 1: know this was done by professionals. But but but I
1:27:56
Speaker 1: mean I've seen them with my own eyes, that young
1:28:00
Speaker 1: blood introduced into an older body has positive side effects.
1:28:03
Speaker 1: And you know, in in my wife's case, it was
1:28:07
Speaker 1: it was functional, and it was it was from her son,
1:28:10
Speaker 1: and there was no there was no nefarious stuff going
1:28:12
Speaker 1: on there. And again it was done by professionals. But
1:28:14
Speaker 1: there is a huge amount of truth. And and I'm
1:28:19
Speaker 1: not saying that I agree with it, but I can
1:28:21
Speaker 1: certainly understand if if if it was somebody's desire to
1:28:26
Speaker 1: live longer, look younger, be stronger, strive for immortality. Maybe yeah,
1:28:33
Speaker 1: what that that makes perfect sense? And and Kubrick, because
1:28:38
Speaker 1: of where he was positioned and how he was positioned,
1:28:40
Speaker 1: I have no doubt he probably saw some horrific things.
1:28:45
Speaker 1: And and I there are things and and and you know,
1:28:50
Speaker 1: think about what what we all considered to be normal.
1:28:53
Speaker 1: I mean, this is normal sitting in our rooms talking
1:28:55
Speaker 1: on a computer to each other, This is normal conversation.
1:28:58
Speaker 1: But in in in a whole other world, you know,
1:29:03
Speaker 1: drinking the blood of young children is considered normal, you know,
1:29:06
Speaker 1: And so it could it be that you know, he
1:29:09
Speaker 1: was just he was just trying to release some of
1:29:12
Speaker 1: that horror and guilt and shame that he was feeling.
1:29:16
Speaker 1: And he was clearly good batter Otherwise he was a
1:29:19
Speaker 1: creative guy, you know, and he maybe that was just
1:29:23
Speaker 1: his way of getting it out, you know, and like
1:29:28
Speaker 1: it was like it was schmidt'swe of you know, he
1:29:30
Speaker 1: created the Orwell pen name and he you know, look
1:29:33
Speaker 1: at how much of nineteen eighty four is you know,
1:29:36
Speaker 1: you know that that was fiction at one point. Now
1:29:40
Speaker 1: it's not like there's a lot of nineteen eighty four
1:29:43
Speaker 1: that's real.
1:29:44
Speaker 5: Now, you know. I heard in the in the UK,
1:29:47
Speaker 5: specifically like Scotland, it's illegal to pray in your head now,
1:29:52
Speaker 5: Like you can't say a prayer like a mental prayer.
1:29:55
Speaker 5: You can't do that, like you know, obviously they wouldn't know. Well,
1:29:58
Speaker 5: like if you're sitting there and you're like bowing your
1:30:00
Speaker 5: head and closing your eyes and they saw you doing that,
1:30:04
Speaker 5: you could get arrested for it, which is I mean,
1:30:06
Speaker 5: that's that's pretty or well in right there. But you
1:30:09
Speaker 5: were talking about Johnny, you were talking about transhumanism. Are
1:30:12
Speaker 5: you familiar with cosmism? We might have talked about it
1:30:14
Speaker 5: in the past a little bit when we spoke last time.
1:30:17
Speaker 5: Familiar with what was Russian cosmism? No, it's kind of
1:30:21
Speaker 5: like transhumanism it's just like the way that I mean.
1:30:25
Speaker 5: I've done a couple episodes on it because I found
1:30:26
Speaker 5: it fascinating. It has to do with like bringing the
1:30:29
Speaker 5: dead back to life. There's a lot of transhuman you know,
1:30:33
Speaker 5: components to it, but it's basically a conservative version of transhumanism,
1:30:36
Speaker 5: where transhumanism is more like liberal they would say. But yeah,
1:30:41
Speaker 5: cosmism like this, there's this kid. He was talking about
1:30:45
Speaker 5: Rogan and Alex Jones and all this stuff and talking
1:30:48
Speaker 5: about how they're cosmists. And that's not a term that
1:30:51
Speaker 5: gets used a lot because transhumanism is so trendy and
1:30:54
Speaker 5: people talk about that a lot with Elon Musk and
1:30:56
Speaker 5: all that. But it seems like they were.
1:30:58
Speaker 1: Maybe is it cosmic like cos.
1:31:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me make sure on the spelling cos I
1:31:08
Speaker 5: s m Russian cause Russian. Yeah, okay, here this is
1:31:13
Speaker 5: what it is. I'll share my screen real quick. Wikipedia
1:31:19
Speaker 5: is asking for money, Yeah, right here, Russian cosmism osmism.
1:31:25
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna look into that.
1:31:27
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's a fascinating topic, man, And there's a lot
1:31:29
Speaker 5: there's a lot of like related topics you can get
1:31:31
Speaker 5: into too, But yeah, it's a it's a weird thing,
1:31:36
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of uh you know, new age
1:31:39
Speaker 5: components to it, but it's uh yeah, bringing people back
1:31:43
Speaker 5: from the dead using AI and and Amazon and big
1:31:48
Speaker 5: companies like that to create like a brain net type situation.
1:31:53
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's it's it's a dark topic, but it's
1:31:55
Speaker 5: very interesting.
1:31:56
Speaker 1: Man.
1:31:57
Speaker 3: The neuralink is described in such a way brain web.
1:32:01
Speaker 5: Right exactly, So yeah, it has a lot to do
1:32:03
Speaker 5: with that. And I kind of feel like after you
1:32:05
Speaker 5: look into cosmism a little bit, it kind of seems
1:32:07
Speaker 5: like the transhumanism talks almost a distraction.
1:32:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, like look over here, that's that's because that makes
1:32:13
Speaker 3: Elon Musk couldn't be in a more fucking public place.
1:32:16
Speaker 3: And if you would have told me two years ago
1:32:18
Speaker 3: that he would be actually on the presidential administration, Fuck,
1:32:23
Speaker 3: why not?
1:32:23
Speaker 1: I guess Thank god he comes from normal parents.
1:32:26
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, his whole story is one hundred true.
1:32:31
Speaker 1: I was exactly, yeah, he's him and Zuckerberg.
1:32:34
Speaker 5: Dude, I felt so stupid one time watching a documentary
1:32:37
Speaker 5: and I felt that, like, Elon Musk was so brilliant
1:32:40
Speaker 5: when I watched this, because in this he says that
1:32:43
Speaker 5: he lost his fear of the dark when he was
1:32:45
Speaker 5: two years old, because he understood that all that a
1:32:49
Speaker 5: dark molecule is versus a light molecule is it's just
1:32:51
Speaker 5: the same molecule without an electron in it. And he
1:32:54
Speaker 5: understood that at two years old. He said, and I'm thinking, Wow,
1:32:58
Speaker 5: that's fucking brilliant for a two years old.
1:33:00
Speaker 3: It sounds like Terrence Howard going on Joe Rogan and
1:33:03
Speaker 3: saying that his mom used to put light on her
1:33:05
Speaker 3: stomach and that made him that was proof that his
1:33:08
Speaker 3: son and him remembered their birds.
1:33:10
Speaker 5: I was like, what, Yeah, I don't remember anything before
1:33:13
Speaker 5: I was like four or five.
1:33:15
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
1:33:16
Speaker 5: They have.
1:33:16
Speaker 2: They have stories like that about Nikola Tesla too. He
1:33:19
Speaker 2: was born in a lightning storm and it's fucking lightning
1:33:23
Speaker 2: bolt went in her pussy and fucking zapped him.
1:33:25
Speaker 3: In the Oh my god, that's like his superpowers.
1:33:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have stories like that about Nikola Tesla, anybody
1:33:31
Speaker 2: who ends up doing something like that. And again, people
1:33:36
Speaker 2: have different theories on Nikola Tesla who he was, you
1:33:39
Speaker 2: know whatever, but he does have an interesting story, does.
1:33:43
Speaker 1: Have an interesting story, and it's interesting because what the
1:33:48
Speaker 1: like musk and and forget the Tesla car thing Musk
1:33:54
Speaker 1: is kind of the modern day version of what Tesla.
1:33:59
Speaker 1: It's the it's it's it's almost like character. They're they're
1:34:02
Speaker 1: recycling the character.
1:34:04
Speaker 3: Well, they did it with Howard Hughes. Between the two
1:34:06
Speaker 3: of them, you had Tesla, Howard Hughes, Elon Musk, and
1:34:10
Speaker 3: then you throw the whole Iron Man mythology into all
1:34:13
Speaker 3: of it, which they're taking quite literally these days. I
1:34:15
Speaker 3: think Elon Musk had a cameo in the second Iron
1:34:18
Speaker 3: Man movie. But yeah, yeah, like Howard Hughes and Tesla,
1:34:21
Speaker 3: if you mix them together, you get Elon Musk.
1:34:25
Speaker 1: So again, I think these are these these are characters.
1:34:28
Speaker 1: These are characters that are created and they're put into
1:34:30
Speaker 1: the public lexicon and and we absorb them and and
1:34:34
Speaker 1: and they become you know, they they become.
1:34:37
Speaker 2: Real and well, you know, it's exactly how you're saying,
1:34:40
Speaker 2: because the Nikola Tesla character had all this like they
1:34:46
Speaker 2: like I said, he was born in a lightning storm,
1:34:49
Speaker 2: and he did all this stuff and ed da da da.
1:34:52
Speaker 2: But then at the end of his life he's like broke.
1:34:54
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about him.
1:34:56
Speaker 3: He's like his girlfriend is a pigeon.
1:34:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, his girlfriend it's obviously a pigeon. He dies in
1:35:02
Speaker 2: a hotel room somewhere, and like it's they just kind
1:35:06
Speaker 2: of threw him away after they were you know, it's
1:35:10
Speaker 2: crazy because you're so right about that. Like they didn't care,
1:35:13
Speaker 2: but they just kind of threw him away after they
1:35:15
Speaker 2: were done with whatever.
1:35:19
Speaker 1: Yep, that's what That's what happens when they your your
1:35:23
Speaker 1: usefulness runs out and you.
1:35:26
Speaker 2: Know, penniless in a hotel room.
1:35:30
Speaker 3: Well, I think Howard Hughes like became a Mormon in
1:35:32
Speaker 3: Las Vegas and like ended up leaving his family portune
1:35:36
Speaker 3: to them. It's like a similar thing.
1:35:39
Speaker 2: Doesn't Trump have a weird thing about Nikola Tesla or
1:35:42
Speaker 2: somebody like that? Yeah?
1:35:44
Speaker 3: Uncle, Yeah, he supposedly through the hand of the FBI,
1:35:48
Speaker 3: he ended up getting all of those patents. I don't
1:35:51
Speaker 3: know how much of that is mythology and how much
1:35:53
Speaker 3: that is real, because the whole Trump time travel thing
1:35:57
Speaker 3: is fun to look into.
1:35:58
Speaker 5: But oh it's a fun there. Whether it's real or not,
1:36:01
Speaker 5: it's fun, not the derail. But I dropped a link
1:36:06
Speaker 5: in here for you guys. You guys can check that out.
1:36:08
Speaker 5: He's got more. Uh, this kid talks about a lot
1:36:11
Speaker 5: of interesting stuff in this video, and a lot of
1:36:13
Speaker 5: it is the Russian cosmism towards the end and whatnot.
1:36:16
Speaker 5: But yeah, dude, that whole website reeldocumentaries dot com. It's
1:36:21
Speaker 5: like uncensored YouTube. There's not as many videos on there,
1:36:24
Speaker 5: but if you want to go down some conspiracy rabbit holes,
1:36:27
Speaker 5: realdocumentaries dot com is an incredible place to watch some stuff.
1:36:31
Speaker 3: I was on that one while back. I haven't been
1:36:33
Speaker 3: there in ages. I'm glad you reminded me about that.
1:36:36
Speaker 5: It's such a good site. But I recommend you guys
1:36:37
Speaker 5: all saved that link and if you're curious or bored
1:36:40
Speaker 5: one time, you just want to look into that video.
1:36:42
Speaker 5: It's only like an hour and a half. I think
1:36:44
Speaker 5: it might be longer than that. No, two hours and
1:36:46
Speaker 5: eleven minutes, but it's worth every minute of watching that.
1:36:49
Speaker 1: Man, very very good Ryan. This time, I'm also being sincere.
1:36:53
Speaker 1: Thanks for the tip.
1:36:54
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I know you're probably more likely to watch that
1:36:57
Speaker 5: than the substance, but still, you know, I'm trying to
1:37:00
Speaker 5: give some stuff out here and provide some value to
1:37:02
Speaker 5: the conversation.
1:37:03
Speaker 3: Another year, when we do this again, we're gonna have
1:37:07
Speaker 3: a movie report.
1:37:09
Speaker 2: Oh Yeah, I actually have a couple unrelated questions for John.
1:37:16
Speaker 2: I don't know how much time everybody has, but I
1:37:18
Speaker 2: just want to get these questions out before we wrap
1:37:21
Speaker 2: up kind of. But so I know you're really into
1:37:25
Speaker 2: like the healthcare system and everything, and I actually cover
1:37:28
Speaker 2: a little bit about that kind of stuff on my
1:37:30
Speaker 2: own show. But I had this girl that I worked
1:37:34
Speaker 2: with and my mom died of cancer, so it's like
1:37:38
Speaker 2: close to home for me, Like because I agree with you,
1:37:41
Speaker 2: I think she was probably killed more by the treatment
1:37:43
Speaker 2: than the actual breast cancer obviously, But I worked with
1:37:47
Speaker 2: this girl and she said that her husband completely cured
1:37:51
Speaker 2: his cancer by taking dog Dee wormer and he has
1:37:54
Speaker 2: a whole blog about it, how much he took of
1:37:56
Speaker 2: it every day. It's never came back. He didn't do
1:37:59
Speaker 2: it any chemo, he didn't do any radiation. And I
1:38:03
Speaker 2: have this theory that cancer is actually just parasites, and
1:38:08
Speaker 2: they can get you with parasites in your food, water, whatever.
1:38:11
Speaker 2: It's real easy to give somebody a parasitic overload and
1:38:14
Speaker 2: they tell them they have cancer. So what are your
1:38:17
Speaker 2: thoughts on something like that, like with the dog Dey
1:38:19
Speaker 2: warmer and stuff.
1:38:20
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm so sincerely sorry to hear
1:38:24
Speaker 1: about what happened with your mom, and and I'm and
1:38:27
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you voiced your stance on that, because
1:38:31
Speaker 1: I too, I don't believe that cancer is a thing.
1:38:36
Speaker 1: I think it's it's It is also a character that
1:38:39
Speaker 1: was created, and it is a probably one of the
1:38:45
Speaker 1: most cruel of all characters that that they have created,
1:38:48
Speaker 1: because it's fear based and and with God, as serious
1:38:54
Speaker 1: as I can possibly say this, if anyone listening or
1:38:57
Speaker 1: watching this is told that they have cancer, or if
1:39:03
Speaker 1: a loved one is told that they have cancer, I
1:39:05
Speaker 1: plead and beg of you to look the medical professional
1:39:10
Speaker 1: that is telling you that in the eyes and say,
1:39:13
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it. Show it to me. I
1:39:16
Speaker 1: want to see my cancer acting nefariously in my body.
1:39:22
Speaker 1: Show it to me. Don't show me a don't don't
1:39:24
Speaker 1: show me a an X ray with a white blob
1:39:27
Speaker 1: and go the'st your cancer. That could be anything. That
1:39:29
Speaker 1: could be a that could be a piece of bone,
1:39:31
Speaker 1: It could be a piece of fat, It could be anything.
1:39:33
Speaker 1: It could be a water glob, it could be a
1:39:35
Speaker 1: number of things. I want to see live on a
1:39:38
Speaker 1: microscope or or or some equivalent thereof. I'd like to
1:39:41
Speaker 1: see my body acting nefariously against itself. Show me before
1:39:46
Speaker 1: I subject myself to to your to your burning and
1:39:51
Speaker 1: and your pharmaceuticals and and and you're cutting and surgery.
1:39:55
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that. And and that is a
1:39:59
Speaker 1: question that I have pleaded with people over the years
1:40:02
Speaker 1: to ask. And I do know people that have asked,
1:40:04
Speaker 1: and I've yet to have anyone come back and go
1:40:07
Speaker 1: they showed it to me. So these people that have
1:40:10
Speaker 1: cured cured their cancer by doing other things, I think
1:40:16
Speaker 1: what they have cured themselves from is they've actually saved
1:40:20
Speaker 1: themselves from the traditional treatment. And like doing anything. I mean,
1:40:28
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that they did take a dog de wormery.
1:40:32
Speaker 1: They could have taken popcorn, they could they could have
1:40:36
Speaker 1: eaten a slur you drank a slurpee or something. Anything
1:40:41
Speaker 1: other than the treatment is going to have a better
1:40:44
Speaker 1: outcome than the treatment.
1:40:46
Speaker 2: And I agree with you on that. And yes, there
1:40:49
Speaker 2: is a spiritual component to it as well, I know.
1:40:52
Speaker 1: But you know, i'd love I'd really love your your
1:40:58
Speaker 1: take on this, because I would. I would. I've just
1:41:03
Speaker 1: seen it with my own eyes that that that these
1:41:05
Speaker 1: type of words affect I think they affect all of us,
1:41:09
Speaker 1: but I think, uh like, I think they affect women more.
1:41:13
Speaker 1: And I say that with with grace and mercy. If
1:41:16
Speaker 1: someone was to tell a little girl that she was
1:41:20
Speaker 1: ugly or she was fat, I don't care how strong
1:41:25
Speaker 1: that little girl is, or even a little boy, but
1:41:27
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think it would affect a little
1:41:28
Speaker 1: girl more. If if if you heard you know, you're fat,
1:41:31
Speaker 1: you're ugly, you are never going to forget that you're
1:41:35
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be with you your entire life. You're
1:41:38
Speaker 1: never gonna forget that you were told you were fat,
1:41:40
Speaker 1: you were ugly. Imagine being told that you have this
1:41:44
Speaker 1: thing that's going to kill you.
1:41:46
Speaker 5: M hm.
1:41:48
Speaker 1: That's gonna that's gonna hit you like a ton of bricks,
1:41:51
Speaker 1: way harder than being told you were fat or you
1:41:53
Speaker 1: were ugly. So just the the very act of being
1:41:58
Speaker 1: diagnosed and die. Diagnose is a very strange word. Die
1:42:04
Speaker 1: means too, ag means not. Nosis is knowing, so it's
1:42:10
Speaker 1: two people not knowing.
1:42:15
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
1:42:16
Speaker 1: Anyways, to tell someone that they have this thing that's
1:42:20
Speaker 1: going to kill them is a very powerful and cruel
1:42:24
Speaker 1: thing to do to somebody, and the human body is
1:42:28
Speaker 1: an amazing machine. If you think, and this is if
1:42:35
Speaker 1: we are all being honest with ourselves, you know that
1:42:37
Speaker 1: this is true. You've talked yourself sick before, You've thought
1:42:41
Speaker 1: yourself sick before. You know, like, if you think that
1:42:45
Speaker 1: you're going to get sick, you're going to get sick.
1:42:47
Speaker 1: If you if you, I don't know, you twist your ankle,
1:42:53
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't break it. You know it's gonna
1:42:55
Speaker 1: hurt more. If you're really stressed about not right, it's
1:42:57
Speaker 1: gonna hurt you. You can manifest that good or bad.
1:43:03
Speaker 1: And there's no stronger motivator than fear. And so a
1:43:07
Speaker 1: lot of people who are told that they have things,
1:43:11
Speaker 1: that's all they have to do is tell them that
1:43:13
Speaker 1: they have it, and they from that point forward, that
1:43:15
Speaker 1: person is moving forward in a state of fear. And
1:43:19
Speaker 1: most people are not strong enough to go fuck that,
1:43:24
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get another opinion or I'm not listening to
1:43:26
Speaker 1: that shit at all.
1:43:27
Speaker 2: Well here's a good example of that. Actually, there was
1:43:29
Speaker 2: a fucking crazy lady who went on Doctor Phil and
1:43:34
Speaker 2: she had a big, fucking pregnant belly like you'd never
1:43:38
Speaker 2: guess otherwise that she was like eight months pregnant. She's
1:43:42
Speaker 2: not pregnant. She's been pregnant for like seven years or
1:43:45
Speaker 2: something like that. And she's convinced herself that any day
1:43:49
Speaker 2: now she's gonna have a baby. And they've done ultrasounds
1:43:54
Speaker 2: for they've done all kinds of crazy stuff for they
1:43:57
Speaker 2: told her there's no babies in there, but her belly
1:44:00
Speaker 2: continues to grow. She has all the pregnancy symptoms, and
1:44:02
Speaker 2: she literally convinced herself and her body responded to a
1:44:08
Speaker 2: fake pregnancy.
1:44:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:44:11
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you don't think you can manifest
1:44:13
Speaker 2: stuff in your body and bring it into the physical plane,
1:44:16
Speaker 2: like you're crazy.
1:44:18
Speaker 1: Everything that happens physically to you is a result of
1:44:22
Speaker 1: what's happened, what you're you're mentally feeding, you know that
1:44:24
Speaker 1: you know, like remember like the Jim Rose sideshow circus
1:44:28
Speaker 1: that toured with Lollapalooza. The kind of the freaks that
1:44:31
Speaker 1: the circus freaks and all or you've seen like the
1:44:33
Speaker 1: people that will hang they'll have like the piercings in
1:44:36
Speaker 1: their skin and then they'll they'll have dated.
1:44:38
Speaker 3: Chick that was into suspension.
1:44:41
Speaker 1: Okay, those and this is a this is a fucked
1:44:45
Speaker 1: up way to get to the same place. But like those,
1:44:48
Speaker 1: in order to do that, you have to tell your
1:44:51
Speaker 1: body that it doesn't hurt, because it does hurt. Pain
1:44:56
Speaker 1: is mental, you know, but you can turn it off.
1:44:59
Speaker 1: And so those people have learned to turn off pain.
1:45:03
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's I think, you know, there's athletes
1:45:05
Speaker 1: and stuff. Well, you know, anyone that's doing endurance stuff
1:45:09
Speaker 1: learns to they are controlling their physical state of being
1:45:15
Speaker 1: and they can tell themselves, I'm not tired. You know,
1:45:19
Speaker 1: this doesn't hurt, you know, and and it that's that's
1:45:25
Speaker 1: a positive use of the mind controlling the body. But
1:45:28
Speaker 1: the negative use would be like telling someone you have cancer.
1:45:32
Speaker 1: You've got and and and I wish I could collectively,
1:45:36
Speaker 1: at one time take my fist and drive it into
1:45:39
Speaker 1: the face of every medical professional that's ever looked another
1:45:43
Speaker 1: human being in the eyes and said you have three
1:45:45
Speaker 1: months or six months to live. I mean that is.
1:45:49
Speaker 2: They did it to my mom.
1:45:52
Speaker 1: I mean it, like, imagine again again, anyone that's been
1:45:58
Speaker 1: a parent, or or even a best friend, or your
1:46:02
Speaker 1: your boyfriend or your girlfriend, anyone that you care about,
1:46:04
Speaker 1: if you knew that that person had a year to live,
1:46:08
Speaker 1: would you tell them?
1:46:11
Speaker 2: Mmm?
1:46:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, never would you? I mean I mean I would
1:46:16
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I love my wife more than anything, but
1:46:20
Speaker 1: if I knew she, if I knew she was going
1:46:22
Speaker 1: to die tomorrow, I would. I would live that. I
1:46:27
Speaker 1: would live today with every fucking second of passion, and
1:46:31
Speaker 1: I would want her to pass as happy as she
1:46:34
Speaker 1: possibly could. But I would never.
1:46:36
Speaker 4: You would.
1:46:37
Speaker 1: Never would you tell your kid that they're going to
1:46:40
Speaker 1: die in six months if you knew that they were
1:46:41
Speaker 1: going to die? First of all, how could you even
1:46:44
Speaker 1: know that?
1:46:45
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm?
1:46:46
Speaker 1: How could?
1:46:47
Speaker 2: How can agree with you? Physical attack?
1:46:53
Speaker 5: That's like that old question like would you want to
1:46:55
Speaker 5: know like the day and the time and the method
1:46:57
Speaker 5: that you're going to die? Right? Like a lot of
1:46:59
Speaker 5: people would? And then a lot of people wouldn't you know.
1:47:01
Speaker 5: It's just I personally would not, But I mean there's
1:47:05
Speaker 5: a lot of people that would like to know.
1:47:07
Speaker 3: Colby, Yeah, I'm dying, Tony my best fucking damn table.
1:47:18
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:47:22
Speaker 2: It's it's like I said, it's like a mental, physical,
1:47:25
Speaker 2: spiritual attack on a person to say stuff like that
1:47:29
Speaker 2: and then subject them to months of Like you just
1:47:32
Speaker 2: told me I have six months to live and you
1:47:34
Speaker 2: want fucking four of those months to be trying to
1:47:37
Speaker 2: save me so I can live a little bit longer
1:47:39
Speaker 2: with a bunch of toxic shit that makes me sick
1:47:41
Speaker 2: all the time, makes my teeth fall out, my hair
1:47:44
Speaker 2: fall out, and pukin and all this. So if I
1:47:47
Speaker 2: have six months to live, you're telling me I'm gonna
1:47:50
Speaker 2: spend half of those months fucking being chemically killed basically,
1:47:56
Speaker 2: and then hopefully that prolongs it a little bit longer. So,
1:47:59
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a lot of theories on it,
1:48:01
Speaker 2: and also kind of circle back to something we were
1:48:03
Speaker 2: talking about earlier with like you said, if you wanted
1:48:08
Speaker 2: to attack Medford, Oregon, why would you like kill a
1:48:10
Speaker 2: bunch of people in a movie theater. The same thing
1:48:14
Speaker 2: exists in my mind when it comes to like it's
1:48:16
Speaker 2: so easy to kill people without doing all of that
1:48:20
Speaker 2: extra shit. All you gotta do is put like a
1:48:22
Speaker 2: shit ton of parasites in somebody's like water supply or
1:48:26
Speaker 2: something like that. You've killed everybody at that point. You
1:48:28
Speaker 2: don't even have to like put your hands on them,
1:48:31
Speaker 2: which is why COVID was such an interesting tool that
1:48:34
Speaker 2: they used. But I mean, biological warfare is where it's
1:48:37
Speaker 2: at not like bombs and explosions and shit.
1:48:40
Speaker 1: No, no, no doubt, which is why, which is why
1:48:42
Speaker 1: I think, you know, for the most part, you know,
1:48:44
Speaker 1: the terrorism isn't real terrorism is is you know that
1:48:47
Speaker 1: it was part of that whole teran nooia campaign that
1:48:50
Speaker 1: nine to eleven kicked off. And and I get I'm
1:48:55
Speaker 1: glad that resonated because because hopefully it resonates with with
1:48:59
Speaker 1: others that are hearing this, because you just that's not
1:49:02
Speaker 1: how you'd you know, even even people like people are thinking, like,
1:49:07
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know we the whole thing with
1:49:10
Speaker 1: TikTok being a Chinese company, you know, they're they're taking
1:49:14
Speaker 1: all of your data. You know, well, well ge so
1:49:17
Speaker 1: is fed book and the Meta and Amazon and Google.
1:49:21
Speaker 3: You know, it's like what Ryan can show you that
1:49:24
Speaker 3: TikTok isn't even Chinese owned.
1:49:26
Speaker 1: Well even if it was, even if it was, who cares?
1:49:31
Speaker 1: And and what is China's like the the the district
1:49:35
Speaker 1: of Columbia's biggest business partner. Do you do you think
1:49:39
Speaker 1: that do you think the powers that shouldn't be in
1:49:41
Speaker 1: China want anything to happen to the American public? No,
1:49:46
Speaker 1: that's a fucking bank roll. You know, that's their customer base.
1:49:49
Speaker 1: So I don't doubt that there are members of the
1:49:53
Speaker 1: Chinese government that have issues with members of other governments.
1:49:56
Speaker 1: But if you've got beef with the wouldn't you attack
1:50:00
Speaker 1: that ship?
1:50:00
Speaker 5: You wouldn't.
1:50:01
Speaker 1: I'm I'm Chinese terrorists and I'm met at the US government,
1:50:05
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go shoot up a shopping mall. That'll
1:50:07
Speaker 1: show them, right what this doesn't even that's not that's
1:50:12
Speaker 1: not how gangster ship works. And if if there were,
1:50:17
Speaker 1: if they were real gangsters, they they'd be taking care
1:50:20
Speaker 1: of business. And I'm sorry, but if if terrorism was real,
1:50:25
Speaker 1: especially Middle Eastern terrorists, you're you know, I don't even
1:50:29
Speaker 1: want to disrespect the Middle East by by saying that
1:50:32
Speaker 1: they're Middle Eastern terrorists, because they're there. They got bad
1:50:36
Speaker 1: aim you know, stop stop aiming at shopping malls and
1:50:41
Speaker 1: marathons and and and these and these weird little off
1:50:44
Speaker 1: targets and aim towards the district of criminals stuff there.
1:50:50
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and I think that they can pull that
1:50:52
Speaker 5: kind of stuff off. And then seeing how that war
1:50:53
Speaker 5: went with them, I mean, it's it's people throwing rocks
1:50:56
Speaker 5: and sticks at tanks, and and you know, massive guns
1:50:59
Speaker 5: and stuff like, they don't have the ability, I don't
1:51:01
Speaker 5: think to really do that kind of stuff. You know
1:51:03
Speaker 5: it like you're saying, John, it makes zero sense when
1:51:06
Speaker 5: you actually think about it for a second. But they
1:51:08
Speaker 5: use the fear and the you know, American pride and
1:51:11
Speaker 5: all that stuff to combat that, I think, And then
1:51:13
Speaker 5: you don't think logically.
1:51:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and and and if I wanted, if I
1:51:17
Speaker 1: wanted to stoke some American pride and get get them
1:51:21
Speaker 1: worked up, well then I would just you know, I'd
1:51:23
Speaker 1: get some mk ultra goon to go shoot up a
1:51:26
Speaker 1: shopping mall and say that it was Russian terrorists, and
1:51:28
Speaker 1: then America is going to go down? How many false flags?
1:51:35
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's just like, how many times have
1:51:37
Speaker 1: we seen stories of like, you know, ah, you know,
1:51:41
Speaker 1: somebody spray painted the N word on somebody's locker in school, Well,
1:51:45
Speaker 1: it was a black person that spray painted the N
1:51:47
Speaker 1: word to make you know, sotoak the you know, Or
1:51:49
Speaker 1: somebody spray painted a swastika on the you know, on
1:51:52
Speaker 1: the wall it's Abbi. Yeah, Like again, that's that's not
1:51:59
Speaker 1: that's not how gang to shit works.
1:52:00
Speaker 5: But then they tell you too that if you're afraid,
1:52:02
Speaker 5: the terrorists win, right, if you're afraid of it. So
1:52:06
Speaker 5: it's like they're they're trying to get ahead of it
1:52:08
Speaker 5: like that.
1:52:08
Speaker 1: Well well yeah, but yeah, again, the terrorists in that
1:52:12
Speaker 1: scenario would be the characters, you know, and they they
1:52:15
Speaker 1: created these characters of terrorists, and in order to prop
1:52:18
Speaker 1: up that character storyline, you got to you gotta have
1:52:20
Speaker 1: some you gotta have some false flags events to prop
1:52:23
Speaker 1: it up, or you know, the character of the terrorists
1:52:26
Speaker 1: doesn't do you much good.
1:52:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's got to be the good guys and
1:52:30
Speaker 5: the bad guys, and the.
1:52:31
Speaker 1: Good guys what you got to create the good guys
1:52:35
Speaker 1: and the bad guys, and you have to control and
1:52:37
Speaker 1: you have to be in control of them both, right.
1:52:39
Speaker 5: And the thing is they say that the good guys
1:52:41
Speaker 5: are American government and the bad guys are you know,
1:52:43
Speaker 5: the other governments and the other terrorists of the world.
1:52:45
Speaker 5: And it's okay to just be like thinking that, yeah,
1:52:47
Speaker 5: maybe there's just two assholes fighting and we don't really
1:52:49
Speaker 5: need to have a dog in the race, right because
1:52:53
Speaker 5: I don't know, our government's not not too much on
1:52:55
Speaker 5: the up and up. In my opinion, I think a
1:52:57
Speaker 5: lot of people share that sentiment there. But yeah, it's uh,
1:53:00
Speaker 5: it's as far as I'm concerned, it's two assholes fighting.
1:53:03
Speaker 5: Whenever countries are going to war. There's no real good suf.
1:53:06
Speaker 3: War if it lands on my front doorstep. But I'm
1:53:08
Speaker 3: not really worried about that happening anytime soon.
1:53:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, or even in the country, right, And I'm sure
1:53:13
Speaker 5: that you're getting at that same thing. Like it, you know,
1:53:15
Speaker 5: if someone were to come here and directly threaten us,
1:53:18
Speaker 5: and it's real sure, I mean I think a lot
1:53:21
Speaker 5: of people would fight.
1:53:22
Speaker 1: But but what like, think of a scenario where I mean,
1:53:28
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not totally being a smart ass on this,
1:53:31
Speaker 1: but I mean it is an open ended question. Think
1:53:33
Speaker 1: of a scenario like what to what good to any
1:53:38
Speaker 1: foreign power would it be to take over Let's just
1:53:43
Speaker 1: use the United States to just take over the United States?
1:53:46
Speaker 1: Like what like like round everybody up and put them
1:53:49
Speaker 1: in camps.
1:53:50
Speaker 3: Like what that's there that ship takes to do?
1:53:54
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:53:54
Speaker 1: What what a pain in the ass. I mean just
1:53:57
Speaker 1: to I live in a small little town, just to
1:54:00
Speaker 1: round everybody up in this small little town would be
1:54:02
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass, would be you'd have to
1:54:05
Speaker 1: kill half of them, because it wouldn't someone would do
1:54:08
Speaker 1: an It'd be like out of here, I'm watching TV
1:54:11
Speaker 1: the game on, what's you know like? And then you'd
1:54:14
Speaker 1: have a bunch of dead bodies stinking and smelling the
1:54:18
Speaker 1: place up. It's like, what, under what reasonable scenario would
1:54:23
Speaker 1: a foreign power come in and take over another country.
1:54:28
Speaker 1: They wouldn't take over the country. They may take over
1:54:31
Speaker 1: the administrative you know, the the the offices and all
1:54:35
Speaker 1: of that, but it would be to their advantage to
1:54:37
Speaker 1: have the people just not even knowing about that. Let
1:54:40
Speaker 1: the people go on about there. Now they're really in charge.
1:54:44
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You'd quietly take control of
1:54:47
Speaker 1: the actual control mechanism.
1:54:49
Speaker 3: Do you think that, Like the Uri Bezmenoff interview where
1:54:52
Speaker 3: he talked about all that in the early eighties, do
1:54:55
Speaker 3: you think there's something to that.
1:54:57
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar.
1:54:58
Speaker 3: So he'd made he was a a Russian spy who
1:55:02
Speaker 3: did you know? He defected and he ended up here
1:55:04
Speaker 3: and he went on the media circuit and he was
1:55:07
Speaker 3: really the first one who brought into mainstream.
1:55:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, you really were a Russian spy and you defected.
1:55:16
Speaker 1: Of course, the next thing you would do is go
1:55:18
Speaker 1: on a media tour.
1:55:19
Speaker 3: See exactly. So that's the point I'm getting to. But
1:55:22
Speaker 3: he planned to seed that you don't use old school
1:55:27
Speaker 3: warfare anymore. You take a few decades to infiltrate every meaningful,
1:55:33
Speaker 3: influential institution. And he was warning that that was gonna happen.
1:55:37
Speaker 3: And now there's people saying, look, it's happening. Look at Disney,
1:55:39
Speaker 3: look at the colleges, which Disney and the colleges were
1:55:43
Speaker 3: always like that. And so I don't know, So do
1:55:47
Speaker 3: you think all that stuff's kind of fake? Cold warship?
1:55:51
Speaker 3: Just the whole back and forth with all that throughout
1:55:53
Speaker 3: the ages.
1:55:54
Speaker 1: I would like I would like to see an example
1:55:58
Speaker 1: of an actual military operation that was organic and necessary.
1:56:05
Speaker 5: Well, what about like the whole like the taking of
1:56:07
Speaker 5: this country, like how it is now, like the like
1:56:10
Speaker 5: our ancestors. And I'm not I'm glad that they did it.
1:56:14
Speaker 5: To be clear, I'm not one of these people that's like,
1:56:16
Speaker 5: you know, overly Native American sympathetic or anything. I got
1:56:19
Speaker 5: nothing against the people or nothing like that. But like
1:56:21
Speaker 5: they came in here, white people came in here and
1:56:23
Speaker 5: took all that land and all that all the resources
1:56:27
Speaker 5: from the Native Americans, and that I mean, as far
1:56:30
Speaker 5: as I'm aware, that's a real thing, that's not a
1:56:33
Speaker 5: fake thing. So I think that a foreign eight, a
1:56:36
Speaker 5: foreign entity could want to do the same thing to us.
1:56:40
Speaker 5: It wouldn't be as easy as it was back then
1:56:41
Speaker 5: because it was basically people with guns fighting people with
1:56:44
Speaker 5: bows and arrows. But I mean, I think that there's
1:56:47
Speaker 5: always a reason that that some someone could want to
1:56:51
Speaker 5: take the resources in the land from us. You know,
1:56:55
Speaker 5: there's got to be I mean, I can't justify in
1:56:58
Speaker 5: my mind because, like you said, on to be a
1:57:00
Speaker 5: pain in the ass, and there's a lot of guns here.
1:57:02
Speaker 5: There's more guns than people. I think a lot of
1:57:05
Speaker 5: the people that talk tough about their guns, they wouldn't
1:57:07
Speaker 5: use it because they can't even run a fucking mile,
1:57:09
Speaker 5: you know, and you need to be a little bit
1:57:11
Speaker 5: physically fit to actually fight a war. But you know,
1:57:15
Speaker 5: I think that it could happen. I don't think it will,
1:57:17
Speaker 5: but I think it's possible, you know, And I think
1:57:19
Speaker 5: that there would be motives for outside entities to want
1:57:22
Speaker 5: to do that.
1:57:23
Speaker 1: There's there's always going to be turf wars always. But again,
1:57:29
Speaker 1: back to the gangster thing. It's like when when when
1:57:32
Speaker 1: there's gang turf wars, they're they're controlling a certain aspect
1:57:38
Speaker 1: of that area. They're not controlling that area in totality,
1:57:43
Speaker 1: you know.
1:57:44
Speaker 5: And also it's like a subversion type thing. Some invasion.
1:57:48
Speaker 1: Well, I mean like like if I, you know, if
1:57:50
Speaker 1: I was a foreign you know, if I was a
1:57:53
Speaker 1: foreign entity and I wanted to, uh take, I want
1:57:57
Speaker 1: to do a land grab, you know, I want, I
1:57:59
Speaker 1: want to I wanted someone else's turf. I I don't
1:58:03
Speaker 1: think that I would have any you know, illusions of
1:58:07
Speaker 1: grandeur that I'm going to go in and and I'm
1:58:11
Speaker 1: going to completely clear everything out in the now. I'm
1:58:13
Speaker 1: gonna have this piece of land for me to do
1:58:16
Speaker 1: with whatever I want, because again, I'd have to kill everybody,
1:58:20
Speaker 1: burn everything.
1:58:21
Speaker 5: I mean, for the soil. Are good for the soil?
1:58:25
Speaker 5: You know?
1:58:26
Speaker 1: Well, you know, yeah, perhaps, but it sure seems like
1:58:31
Speaker 1: like I don't know why a foreign entity would would
1:58:36
Speaker 1: would want to come onto US soil and put people
1:58:43
Speaker 1: in camps and round them up. And I mean there's.
1:58:46
Speaker 3: John do you think World War two narrative is at all?
1:58:49
Speaker 1: I don't think any of the World War narratives are
1:58:51
Speaker 1: as as it Again, I stand by my statement. I'd
1:58:55
Speaker 1: like to see an example of a military action ever
1:58:59
Speaker 1: in history read that was in current modern history, that
1:59:04
Speaker 1: that was both organic and necessary.
1:59:10
Speaker 2: We still have a body count to deal with. I
1:59:12
Speaker 2: just don't think it's as they made it out to be.
1:59:15
Speaker 3: Well, it's like nine to eleven like he was talking earlier.
1:59:18
Speaker 3: I mean, the obviously people die when I mean I
1:59:22
Speaker 3: always thought, just from my own like base of research,
1:59:26
Speaker 3: that eugenics, everything that was thought of and conceived and
1:59:31
Speaker 3: eventually tried took place maybe in some camps in that
1:59:34
Speaker 3: era in Europe, but it was probably us doing it.
1:59:37
Speaker 3: Paper Clip was just trying to hide the trail of like, yeah,
1:59:40
Speaker 3: it's been us all along, and we'll continue to do it,
1:59:44
Speaker 3: like you talked about with the COVID experiments all that stuff,
1:59:47
Speaker 3: Like they do it out in the open and then
1:59:49
Speaker 3: they might like come up with the boogeyman. But like
1:59:52
Speaker 3: I mean, you got even talk about Holocaust like possibilities.
1:59:56
Speaker 1: That are there. There you there you go. I mean,
2:00:00
Speaker 1: if you you know anything that you're told you can't
2:00:03
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, you're onto something you know, and
2:00:06
Speaker 1: there are people in the in the case of of
2:00:10
Speaker 1: Holocaust Incorporated. They you know, there are people in jail
2:00:15
Speaker 1: for talking about Holocaust Incorporated. Yeah, I just add the
2:00:19
Speaker 1: ink on the end of it because it, you know,
2:00:20
Speaker 1: clearly was uh, you know another initiative.
2:00:25
Speaker 5: You could add a trademark or a copyright to it too, probably, right,
2:00:29
Speaker 5: did you just mention eugenics, Colby? I was looking something
2:00:32
Speaker 5: up while you were talking.
2:00:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just saying, like the eugenics that the
2:00:35
Speaker 3: Nazis were supposedly studying on all the Jews. I think
2:00:39
Speaker 3: that was mainly a think tank and Long Island or
2:00:41
Speaker 3: something like that that came up.
2:00:43
Speaker 5: Right, Well, we know that the US was heavily involved
2:00:47
Speaker 5: with the Nazis, right and potentially still are. But yeah,
2:00:50
Speaker 5: there's there's euthenics too, And that's that's what I was
2:00:53
Speaker 5: looking up because I remember the term. I just forgot
2:00:55
Speaker 5: what it was. And eugenics is about future generations and
2:00:57
Speaker 5: euthenics is about current the generation trying to speed that
2:01:02
Speaker 5: process up. So and that's another one of those cosmic terms,
2:01:05
Speaker 5: the cosmism terms. So yeah, it's just dude, it I
2:01:09
Speaker 5: feel like a lot of these words get thrown around
2:01:11
Speaker 5: and it's more of a distraction because the the COVID
2:01:14
Speaker 5: stuff seemed like it was more euthenics than eugenics. It
2:01:18
Speaker 5: was very current. It's gone now, you know, but it
2:01:21
Speaker 5: was focusing on the present time and and it was
2:01:24
Speaker 5: very very like short term. It wasn't thinking about long
2:01:28
Speaker 5: term stuff with with the with COVID and eugenics, but yeah, euthenics.
2:01:35
Speaker 2: Do you think it could have possibly been both? Because
2:01:40
Speaker 2: I've read a couple of articles and stuff on it,
2:01:44
Speaker 2: just because I'm into it and also worried about.
2:01:47
Speaker 5: Mine into it. You're into eugenics, no, watch how you
2:01:52
Speaker 5: say that.
2:01:54
Speaker 2: I could be, But I've seen like a lot of
2:01:57
Speaker 2: women who are either they're having a bunch of miscarriages
2:02:02
Speaker 2: or not able to get pregnant at all following getting
2:02:07
Speaker 2: the job. Well, that's what I'm saying. It could possibly
2:02:12
Speaker 2: be both. I mean, they could be playing the short
2:02:14
Speaker 2: game and the long game, because like now, women are
2:02:17
Speaker 2: having a very difficult time conceiving and there's like this
2:02:21
Speaker 2: outrageous number of women getting diagnosed with PCOS. I happen
2:02:26
Speaker 2: to be one of those people. But I'm not saying
2:02:28
Speaker 2: that's like, oh, I have PCOS, so I'm a victim
2:02:31
Speaker 2: and I'm fucking I didn't get the job, so it
2:02:34
Speaker 2: could be totally unrelated. But I just think it's crazy
2:02:37
Speaker 2: how people aren't putting those two things together.
2:02:41
Speaker 3: Like the.
2:02:44
Speaker 1: Whole the whole COVID thing was I think multifaceted. I
2:02:50
Speaker 1: don't think it was about one particular thing. I think
2:02:52
Speaker 1: it was pretty well thought out in advance. Look to event,
2:02:57
Speaker 1: you know two all on on YouTube. Did you get
2:03:02
Speaker 1: your little COVID plushy? Remember they gave those out for
2:03:05
Speaker 1: attending the event. I've seen him, I've seen them.
2:03:09
Speaker 5: Merch from the COVID era. I want to have some
2:03:11
Speaker 5: of that just for when I'm old and I can
2:03:13
Speaker 5: look back. There was Anthony Fauci pillows, there was wild stuff.
2:03:17
Speaker 3: The Saint Fauci bubblehead, Oh my.
2:03:20
Speaker 5: God, just the merch.
2:03:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was multifaceted. There there was definitely
2:03:24
Speaker 1: some population control aspects to it, with with the infertility
2:03:28
Speaker 1: and and and and then just the just the death.
2:03:31
Speaker 1: You know that there there was There was definitely some
2:03:34
Speaker 1: experimentation LASPEC to it, with like the five G technology
2:03:38
Speaker 1: and the nanotechnology. I think there there was some you know,
2:03:42
Speaker 1: geopolitic aspects to it. How how it affected current events
2:03:46
Speaker 1: that were going on at the time worldwide. You know,
2:03:49
Speaker 1: I think you know it. Let's let's never forget that
2:03:53
Speaker 1: this this event had full and you know, here here's
2:03:58
Speaker 1: the I don't know if you can see this, but
2:04:02
Speaker 1: but probably not.
2:04:03
Speaker 5: That's Dutch government official admits COVID pandemic was military operation Ministry.
2:04:12
Speaker 1: They were taking all of their cues from NATO. So NATO.
2:04:17
Speaker 1: I don't know, you say all roads lead to Rome,
2:04:20
Speaker 1: you I think you could say a lot of roads
2:04:21
Speaker 1: lead to NATO as well. So it was a NATO.
2:04:24
Speaker 1: COVID was a NATO operation, admitted by the Dutch government,
2:04:31
Speaker 1: all but admitted to by the US government in that
2:04:35
Speaker 1: five and twenty page thing that just came out last week.
2:04:42
Speaker 1: I don't think it was just about one thing. I
2:04:43
Speaker 1: think they got a lot out of it. It's like,
2:04:45
Speaker 1: you know, it's the gift that will keep on giving,
2:04:47
Speaker 1: just like nine to eleven was the gift that keeps
2:04:48
Speaker 1: on given.
2:04:49
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I say bio warfare is really where
2:04:52
Speaker 2: it's if we were playing the Illuminati card game, I'm
2:04:55
Speaker 2: going by a warfare on all y'all asses every time.
2:04:59
Speaker 2: I'll win fucking every game. With biowarfare.
2:05:02
Speaker 5: How do you ever play that game?
2:05:04
Speaker 1: Though?
2:05:04
Speaker 3: It?
2:05:05
Speaker 5: Do we know how to play that game?
2:05:07
Speaker 3: I had My mom got it for me for Christmas
2:05:09
Speaker 3: after I did an episode on predictive programming. That game.
2:05:14
Speaker 3: I have it. I've never played it. It seems really stupid.
2:05:16
Speaker 5: It's an expensive game, man, that's a great gift.
2:05:19
Speaker 3: It's based on the Illuminatus trilogy Robert Anton Wilson, which
2:05:23
Speaker 3: is one of the coolest books ever written. I don't
2:05:25
Speaker 3: know what he was or what he was trying to say,
2:05:27
Speaker 3: but it's like, it's a fucking murder mystery with the
2:05:31
Speaker 3: Illuminati and it's got telepathic dolphins and cia.
2:05:36
Speaker 5: Oh that's awesome.
2:05:37
Speaker 3: It came out in the seventies.
2:05:38
Speaker 2: But aren't you supposed to like the point to win
2:05:41
Speaker 2: is like whatever your strategy is, outstrategizes the other person.
2:05:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's a tabletop It's like Monopoly
2:05:48
Speaker 3: with like secret societies.
2:05:50
Speaker 2: So my strategy is bio warfare. On all y'all asses.
2:05:53
Speaker 5: We should get together sometime and play the game on
2:05:56
Speaker 5: here and you can just like have the hands. That'd
2:05:58
Speaker 5: be fair.
2:05:59
Speaker 1: I'd never play it.
2:06:00
Speaker 2: I played a card game with Ryan. Oh, God, was
2:06:02
Speaker 2: it last year for New Year's.
2:06:05
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was like a trivia thing, though, wasn't it?
2:06:07
Speaker 2: Or no, Oh yeah it was. I think it was
2:06:09
Speaker 2: a trivia thing.
2:06:10
Speaker 5: But it was almost like Jeopardy. It was kind of
2:06:13
Speaker 5: like Jeopardy. Yeah, and John, you mentioned five G man,
2:06:17
Speaker 5: do you think five G is real? I'm convinced it's fake.
2:06:21
Speaker 1: I don't know if five G in particular is real
2:06:25
Speaker 1: or fake. But I am a huge believer in frequencies
2:06:29
Speaker 1: and you and the resulting vibration. I do know that
2:06:33
Speaker 1: frequencies cause vibration, and through frequencies, physical matter can be manipulated.
2:06:40
Speaker 1: And so I have done some real life experimentation just
2:06:50
Speaker 1: because of my wife's situation. We I take the topic
2:06:54
Speaker 1: of radiation very seriously. So any anything that has an
2:06:58
Speaker 1: electrical current running through it radiates, Okay, So so so
2:07:04
Speaker 1: we are constantly you know, like, right right now, I've
2:07:07
Speaker 1: I'm we're all baking in radiation. There's wires in our walls,
2:07:11
Speaker 1: ceiling floor, I mean, we're just baking in radiation. Now,
2:07:16
Speaker 1: not all radiation is quote unquote deadly, but all radiation
2:07:20
Speaker 1: there's always a cause and effect, and you know, you
2:07:24
Speaker 1: can you know, I don't know if you've ever seen
2:07:27
Speaker 1: you know, the the Chiladne plates, you know, those the
2:07:30
Speaker 1: vibrating plates where they it's just a it's like a
2:07:33
Speaker 1: speaker and it's got a metal plate on it and
2:07:34
Speaker 1: they'll put some sort of sal salt or something, and
2:07:37
Speaker 1: then the frequencies arrange the salt in geometric patterns. So
2:07:42
Speaker 1: there's proof positive that that frequencies can manipulate physical matter.
2:07:46
Speaker 1: So uh whatever call it five G for what what,
2:07:51
Speaker 1: whatever name they want to put on it, you can
2:07:55
Speaker 1: you can manipulate life with through frequencies. And we've got
2:08:01
Speaker 1: I mean, you never ever ever see birds hanging out
2:08:06
Speaker 1: on those cell towers because they because they know better,
2:08:10
Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to go fucking near that.
2:08:12
Speaker 1: You And if you look around, like I live in
2:08:14
Speaker 1: a fairly rural area, and so I can, I can
2:08:17
Speaker 1: go up to the areas where the cell towers are.
2:08:20
Speaker 1: You don't even the actual plant life changes around the
2:08:24
Speaker 1: base of those things too, You know, you don't. You
2:08:26
Speaker 1: don't see the same You step back a couple more
2:08:29
Speaker 1: hundred feet and you see it starts to grow again,
2:08:32
Speaker 1: like stuff starts to grow. So whatever frequencies are coming
2:08:37
Speaker 1: off of those things they are they're anti biotic. They're
2:08:42
Speaker 1: you know, biotic means life, and whatever the frequencies are,
2:08:45
Speaker 1: they're anti their anti life.
2:08:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I should have been more clear, like
2:08:49
Speaker 5: five G relating to phones, you know, because that's the
2:08:52
Speaker 5: that's the part that I think is completely fake. But
2:08:55
Speaker 5: I agree that there could be some very harmful frequency
2:08:57
Speaker 5: coming from these things because I've seen, uh, you know
2:09:01
Speaker 5: what you're what you're talking about there with the biology
2:09:03
Speaker 5: around these things is different.
2:09:07
Speaker 3: Than to put a bunch of these fucking whatever they're
2:09:09
Speaker 3: for and just say, yeah, that's for your phones, then
2:09:12
Speaker 3: accept that, Yeah, faster internet, Yeah exactly.
2:09:18
Speaker 1: I yeah, I honestly, I'm kind of with you on
2:09:23
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just I wouldn't just say that the topic
2:09:26
Speaker 1: of five G is is fake. I think the whole
2:09:32
Speaker 1: telecommunication narrative is fake all the way up to the
2:09:35
Speaker 1: topic of satellites. I don't. I just I just I
2:09:40
Speaker 1: don't see it. I mean, I think what what people
2:09:43
Speaker 1: think of as satellites is actually the the Google Loon program,
2:09:47
Speaker 1: you know, where those high altitude you know, atmosphere balloons
2:09:51
Speaker 1: that are hanging those what they're called. I mean, there's
2:09:55
Speaker 1: tons of footage of those things being launched. Yeah, yes,
2:10:00
Speaker 1: satlloons exactly and uh and yeah I think that if
2:10:09
Speaker 1: how about that? How about this, I'd like to go back.
2:10:13
Speaker 1: I'd like to go why don't they incorporate the technology
2:10:16
Speaker 1: that they used for the moon landing? Because man, they
2:10:20
Speaker 1: had perfect community. They never lost signal ever, ever, never
2:10:26
Speaker 1: lost signal. Shit, I lose signal talking to somebody five
2:10:30
Speaker 1: miles away. So let's go back to whatever that was,
2:10:33
Speaker 1: which didn't exist, because that whole narrative didn't exist. But
2:10:36
Speaker 1: I'm just being I'm just being an asshole with that.
2:10:38
Speaker 1: But now I think the hole telecommunications and satellites and
2:10:43
Speaker 1: five G and all of that stuff is just another
2:10:45
Speaker 1: example of it's not what they say it is.
2:10:48
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that kind of like multi layer though, Because
2:10:51
Speaker 2: you'd first have to believe space is real. Then you'd
2:10:55
Speaker 2: have to believe that it's not a fucking vacuum in
2:10:58
Speaker 2: that when you got into it, you didn't just like
2:11:00
Speaker 2: crushed like a tin can once you got up there.
2:11:02
Speaker 2: Then you have to believe like somebody could actually pass
2:11:05
Speaker 2: through the Van Allen belts and not get roasted in
2:11:07
Speaker 2: their fucking seat, And like there's so many layers to that.
2:11:11
Speaker 2: I I don't know what the fuck I am these days.
2:11:13
Speaker 2: Flatter rounder is a snow globe, I don't know. But
2:11:19
Speaker 2: if I was gonna choose a camp, I would probably
2:11:22
Speaker 2: pick a flat plane with like some type of dome,
2:11:27
Speaker 2: whether it's not. It doesn't have to be a solid dome.
2:11:29
Speaker 2: But even like like I said before, like the Van
2:11:32
Speaker 2: Allen Belts that they've said exist and you can't pass
2:11:35
Speaker 2: through them and shit like that, I don't know where
2:11:38
Speaker 2: you are on it. But the whole idea of satellites
2:11:41
Speaker 2: and you know, oh yeah, that's I mean, so fucking retarded.
2:11:45
Speaker 1: If space was real, the Vatican would not have had
2:11:48
Speaker 1: to have commissioned Copernicus to come up with that whole
2:11:50
Speaker 1: thing in the first place, because there wasn't anything until
2:11:55
Speaker 1: they paid him to crap that narrative, but and ended
2:11:59
Speaker 1: up putting flash for to modern day. The Vatican controls
2:12:01
Speaker 1: all of the you know observatories you know, worldwide, So it's.
2:12:07
Speaker 5: They have one here, John, They have an observatory at
2:12:10
Speaker 5: the u of A, which is the big university here
2:12:12
Speaker 5: in Tucson, and the it's not at the u of A,
2:12:15
Speaker 5: but the uv A is a co owner with the Yeah,
2:12:19
Speaker 5: the Lucifer telescope.
2:12:20
Speaker 1: I've been there.
2:12:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's uh yeah, it's wild to think.
2:12:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I grew up in Tempe, so I
2:12:27
Speaker 1: spent a ton of time in Tucson.
2:12:28
Speaker 5: That's right. I remember you said that last time time. Yeah, dude,
2:12:31
Speaker 5: I mean, just the idea of the Vatican owning a
2:12:33
Speaker 5: telescope and then choosing to name it Lucifer should tell
2:12:37
Speaker 5: you everything that you need to know.
2:12:38
Speaker 1: That's just an acronym, Ryan, It's just an acronym, right
2:12:44
Speaker 1: large or whatever, whether they said it was but but
2:12:47
Speaker 1: but no, no, they you know again, it's it's it's
2:12:50
Speaker 1: that whole they've created. That's a character. Space is a character,
2:12:55
Speaker 1: and and you gotta it's to their advantage to get
2:12:59
Speaker 1: you invested in that, in that character.
2:13:02
Speaker 2: And John, I got one for you. I just fucking
2:13:06
Speaker 2: thought of it. And you're gonna love this ship too.
2:13:09
Speaker 2: I did a whole episode on John Denver and it's
2:13:12
Speaker 2: crazy because now we can tie the Laurel Canyon and
2:13:15
Speaker 2: NASA and Fake Face all together because he was.
2:13:19
Speaker 1: Challenger and Tranny too, because uh, I think I think
2:13:25
Speaker 1: it was I think it was correct. It was Joan Denver,
2:13:30
Speaker 1: My gosh, that's crazy. Do me a favorite, Like, as
2:13:34
Speaker 1: soon as we're done here, pull up some because because
2:13:36
Speaker 1: we're talking about jaw lines and stuff, pull up some
2:13:38
Speaker 1: pictures of him, and do like, look at look at
2:13:42
Speaker 1: John Denver now through those same lot, through the same eyes,
2:13:46
Speaker 1: because yeah, I think, uh, I think Joan Denver had
2:13:51
Speaker 1: a the JJ Oh my god, Well, you know, I
2:13:54
Speaker 1: fucking love him. Whether he's a trained fantastic music no, no, no.
2:13:58
Speaker 2: Doubt fantastic music.
2:14:00
Speaker 1: What do you think.
2:14:02
Speaker 2: He was supposed to be on the fucking Challenger that exploded,
2:14:06
Speaker 2: and then he wrote that fucking song like they were
2:14:09
Speaker 2: flying for me and like all this weird shit. Then
2:14:12
Speaker 2: he actually did die in a fucking airplane accident. Supposedly
2:14:16
Speaker 2: he thinks he Colby thinks he could still be alive.
2:14:19
Speaker 3: Well, now he thinks he is still alive.
2:14:22
Speaker 2: He was friends with presidents, he was part of the
2:14:26
Speaker 2: board for NASA. He like had all these weird space connections.
2:14:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, she she and Petty have an island in Fiji
2:14:35
Speaker 1: right now that occasionally Bowie and Prince come over that
2:14:39
Speaker 1: all kind of jam and yeah, I think I think
2:14:43
Speaker 1: they're opening for Oasis in twenty twenty five.
2:14:45
Speaker 5: So Tom Petty's not a tranny, is he? No?
2:14:48
Speaker 1: Gotcha cod no, no, no, no, no, please.
2:14:51
Speaker 5: Okay, don't tell me that, because I mean, I'm still
2:14:54
Speaker 5: going to listen to its music. But I love that,
2:14:57
Speaker 5: I told you, dude.
2:14:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a fucking saint pe man. I love I
2:15:02
Speaker 1: love that.
2:15:02
Speaker 5: Du Yeah, dude. We were outside, we had a campfire
2:15:05
Speaker 5: the other night in the front yard, and I took
2:15:07
Speaker 5: some shrooms and we were just I just put it
2:15:09
Speaker 5: on Apple Music and clicked the first song and you
2:15:12
Speaker 5: can just listen through, just listen through it, and every
2:15:16
Speaker 5: one of those damn songs is Have.
2:15:18
Speaker 1: You seen Have you seen the four hour documentary? No, ill, dude,
2:15:23
Speaker 1: it's it's. First of all, if you're a documentary guy,
2:15:25
Speaker 1: I'm a documentary geek, which is why I love the
2:15:28
Speaker 1: fact that you turned me on to realdocumentaries dot com.
2:15:32
Speaker 1: But if yeah, yeah, go and watch the time. It's
2:15:35
Speaker 1: a it's a it's an investment. It's it's over four
2:15:38
Speaker 1: hours long, but it is, man. It I loved not
2:15:43
Speaker 1: just Petty, but every one of the Heartbreakers, each one.
2:15:46
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Campbell is a guitar hero of mine
2:15:49
Speaker 1: and like you will love them times ten after this documentary, like, okay,
2:15:55
Speaker 1: he was after watching I used I used to think
2:16:00
Speaker 1: that Petty pieced out, Uh just just retired and pieced out.
2:16:05
Speaker 1: But after watching that document I've watched it three or
2:16:08
Speaker 1: four times. He was He was a tough motherfucker. He
2:16:11
Speaker 1: was not someone who was told what to do. And uh,
2:16:15
Speaker 1: and I think I think I think they they they
2:16:17
Speaker 1: may have taken care of him for not playing.
2:16:20
Speaker 5: I love what he told Steven Nix and she wanted
2:16:22
Speaker 5: to be part of the heartbreaks and he's like, there's
2:16:24
Speaker 5: no living in the heartbreak.
2:16:25
Speaker 2: A heartbreaker.
2:16:27
Speaker 5: That's awesome. He's just he's he's awesome. But yeah, I'll
2:16:31
Speaker 5: have to I'll have to find it. You happen to
2:16:33
Speaker 5: know the name off the top of your head.
2:16:35
Speaker 1: Here, I'll find it for you, because yeah.
2:16:37
Speaker 5: I'll watch that ship. I'll start it tonight.
2:16:41
Speaker 3: Right in four hours, you could watch eight Self Park episodes.
2:16:45
Speaker 5: I know that's the problem.
2:16:47
Speaker 3: Got to quantify it there. I think Tom Petty's worth
2:16:50
Speaker 3: sacrificing some self work hours.
2:16:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't watch much TV, but when I do,
2:16:54
Speaker 5: it's usually something stupid like South Park or Sons of
2:16:57
Speaker 5: anarchy lately. Great show running Down a Dream, Running down
2:17:01
Speaker 5: a Dream. It's called that kind of hold that thought,
2:17:04
Speaker 5: running down a dream. But yeah, I dude, this is
2:17:08
Speaker 5: These are always fun episodes. Man.
2:17:11
Speaker 1: Fantastic fantastic book.
2:17:13
Speaker 5: But oh nice, Yeah that's awesome. Yeah, I'm a nerd
2:17:18
Speaker 5: with like autographs and stuff. I need to try and
2:17:19
Speaker 5: find some autographs of that, dude. I'm sure that they're expensive,
2:17:22
Speaker 5: but I got all kinds of autographs of random things.
2:17:26
Speaker 1: Man. Mike Campbell just came through Nashville not that long
2:17:30
Speaker 1: ago with with his band and I couldn't get there,
2:17:34
Speaker 1: playing a pretty small place and it was one of
2:17:37
Speaker 1: those places where, like, you know, you pretty much guaranteed
2:17:39
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to say hi, you know. And I
2:17:43
Speaker 1: just actually just saw in that same place I a
2:17:45
Speaker 1: week or so ago. I don't know if any of
2:17:47
Speaker 1: y'all are are in Excess fans, but a huge inn
2:17:51
Speaker 1: Excess fan. And uh Andrew Ferris, you know the the
2:17:55
Speaker 1: they're the three Ferris brothers that pretty much did all
2:17:59
Speaker 1: the music and Michael Hutchins wrote wrote the words, but
2:18:02
Speaker 1: Andrew Ferris, of those three brothers, he wrote ninety percent
2:18:05
Speaker 1: of Xcess songs and he did a just real quiet
2:18:09
Speaker 1: little gig here in Nashville about a week and a
2:18:12
Speaker 1: half ago, and uh there, I bet you there was
2:18:15
Speaker 1: seventy five people there, and uh and and I right
2:18:19
Speaker 1: before he started, I went and went and used the bathroom.
2:18:23
Speaker 1: And the bathroom was way far at the other end
2:18:25
Speaker 1: of the place and it was empty anyways. And so
2:18:27
Speaker 1: I'm in there by by myself and washing my hands,
2:18:30
Speaker 1: and out of the stall comes Andrew. It's just me
2:18:33
Speaker 1: and him in the in this big, cavernous, lonely bathroom
2:18:37
Speaker 1: mind and I kind of I kind of had a
2:18:38
Speaker 1: little like starstruck moment. I was I was like, dude,
2:18:41
Speaker 1: this is really uncomfortable and I'm not gonna want to
2:18:44
Speaker 1: shake I know you don't shake it. But I'm blessed
2:18:49
Speaker 1: to be here. And it's just an honor to to
2:18:51
Speaker 1: to get to see you. And he was like, all right, man,
2:18:53
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll give you a left handed handshake and
2:18:55
Speaker 1: in his great Australian accent and fanta.
2:19:00
Speaker 2: So you get to see like the greats just walking
2:19:03
Speaker 2: around sometimes in Nashville because I love country music, so
2:19:08
Speaker 2: just curious.
2:19:09
Speaker 1: The cool thing about Nashville is good, bad or otherwise
2:19:15
Speaker 1: there are so many, like just legendary people. It's it's
2:19:22
Speaker 1: not like it's not a big deal to see someone
2:19:27
Speaker 1: now if you are new to the area, it is,
2:19:30
Speaker 1: But for the people that live have lived here a while,
2:19:32
Speaker 1: it's not. And and I used to do you remember
2:19:35
Speaker 1: Tower records that the store Tower records, big huge record
2:19:39
Speaker 1: store chain. Anyways, I I used to. I used to
2:19:43
Speaker 1: manage one back in the day here in Nashville, and
2:19:47
Speaker 1: Garth Brooks used to come in on the regular.
2:19:50
Speaker 2: And oh, he's from Oklahoma that my sister lives in
2:19:54
Speaker 2: his city. They have Garth Brooks everywhere.
2:19:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's he's also got a residence up up
2:19:59
Speaker 1: in Henderonville here north of Nashville. And but yeah, but
2:20:03
Speaker 1: his main main residence is He's he's Oklahoma based, but
2:20:07
Speaker 1: he's in you know, he's in Nashville quite a bit.
2:20:09
Speaker 2: And there's a theory that he's like a fucking serial
2:20:12
Speaker 2: killer or something.
2:20:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that.
2:20:15
Speaker 3: I that.
2:20:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that.
2:20:18
Speaker 3: Probably the real serial he's the Smiley.
2:20:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting he got pegged on that. Yet
2:20:23
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton can fund the magajeabs and she gets away
2:20:26
Speaker 1: Scott Free.
2:20:28
Speaker 3: That's a soft killing.
2:20:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's corporately.
2:20:34
Speaker 3: You used to used to you told me on the
2:20:37
Speaker 3: last time the three of us got together. You talked
2:20:39
Speaker 3: about running into Johnny Cash there near the end of
2:20:42
Speaker 3: his life at that record store.
2:20:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he coupled. In fact, we okay. Johnny
2:20:49
Speaker 1: Cash's daughter, Roseanne Roseanne Cash, she was married to Rodney Crowell,
2:20:53
Speaker 1: another country music so power country music power couple of
2:20:57
Speaker 1: the seventies, and they had three daughters. And one of
2:21:00
Speaker 1: their daughters, so that would be Johnny's granddaughter had some
2:21:05
Speaker 1: had some problems earlier in life with some substance abuse
2:21:08
Speaker 1: and all, and was getting her life back together. And
2:21:11
Speaker 1: Johnny asked us at the store if we could put
2:21:14
Speaker 1: her to you know, give give her a because because
2:21:16
Speaker 1: he he'd come in quite a bit, and I think
2:21:18
Speaker 1: he liked the vibe there, and he certainly knew the
2:21:20
Speaker 1: people and try I think semi trusted the people, and
2:21:23
Speaker 1: he wanted his he wanted his granddaughter to kind of
2:21:26
Speaker 1: get back on her feet, and so he asked if
2:21:29
Speaker 1: we could hire her. And so we, uh we we
2:21:31
Speaker 1: hired her and and and put her to work, and
2:21:33
Speaker 1: she and I ended up writing some writing some music
2:21:36
Speaker 1: together and and uh spending some time out you know
2:21:39
Speaker 1: at what John and you know, at the time John
2:21:41
Speaker 1: and June were both still alive and and and and
2:21:43
Speaker 1: went out there to to their place and and uh, now,
2:21:46
Speaker 1: the the the Cash family is an interesting that there's
2:21:49
Speaker 1: a lot been a lot of turmoil in that family.
2:21:52
Speaker 1: But Johnny, Johnny was always just a just a real
2:21:56
Speaker 1: kind of a grandfather. He type just had just a sweet,
2:22:00
Speaker 1: towering grandfather of a guy.
2:22:02
Speaker 2: You know, Well, do you think because like we obviously
2:22:05
Speaker 2: talk about Laurel Canyon, but I'm sure there's a Laurel
2:22:08
Speaker 2: Canyon of the country music scene with Johnny Cash and
2:22:11
Speaker 2: like Jerry Lee Lewis and all them. Oh, it's probably
2:22:14
Speaker 2: a Laurel Canyon of like nineties country too, if I'm
2:22:18
Speaker 2: just being honest, and I love nineties country, but I'm
2:22:21
Speaker 2: sure some of the assholes were up to fucking no good.
2:22:24
Speaker 2: But nobody really ever talks about it because country is
2:22:27
Speaker 2: supposed to be like the good Christian clean. Yeah, but
2:22:31
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's just as convoluted as Laurel Canyon if
2:22:34
Speaker 2: you really dug into it.
2:22:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, there's there's I think I think
2:22:38
Speaker 1: that any any mainstream entertainment brand or cast of characters
2:22:47
Speaker 1: has got Sheananigan's attached to it, because wasn't Elvis.
2:22:51
Speaker 2: Didn't he come out of Memphis?
2:22:54
Speaker 1: Yeah?
2:22:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think a lot of it comes from
2:22:57
Speaker 5: the rock scene more and it's more high profile because
2:23:00
Speaker 5: that's the counterculture, Like rock and roll is supposed to
2:23:02
Speaker 5: be counterculture, right, and I don't think country music is
2:23:05
Speaker 5: supposed to be so much, at least back then, right
2:23:08
Speaker 5: like rock was getting a little like it. It started
2:23:11
Speaker 5: off a little bit weird, right, like we even going
2:23:13
Speaker 5: back to the Beatles, like everyone was like, oh no,
2:23:16
Speaker 5: you shouldn't be listening to this stuff. It was like
2:23:18
Speaker 5: completely different music that you're supposed to be listening to.
2:23:21
Speaker 1: Well now, but you know now the country artists of
2:23:25
Speaker 1: today are super counterculture, like like Beyonce and post Malone.
2:23:31
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you have me for a second there, but yeah,
2:23:34
Speaker 5: I mean even like jelly Roll, right, like jelly Roll,
2:23:36
Speaker 5: this dude, jelly like meant to be counterculture, and I
2:23:41
Speaker 5: don't think he really is, you know, I I love.
2:23:45
Speaker 1: He's jelly rolls from here. In fact, A guy that
2:23:49
Speaker 1: a guy that lives not too far from my little town.
2:23:52
Speaker 1: He was actually the guy that that found jelly roll
2:23:55
Speaker 1: and kind of got him on his got him on
2:23:57
Speaker 1: his way. But no, he's a there. There is a
2:24:00
Speaker 1: good example of someone who I can tell you, at
2:24:06
Speaker 1: least at this point, that's a that was real person.
2:24:10
Speaker 5: No, I think, yeah, I think he is. But yeah,
2:24:12
Speaker 5: it's just it's interesting that that's kind of what the
2:24:13
Speaker 5: counterculture is right.
2:24:14
Speaker 3: Now, like Trump movement.
2:24:18
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't it Scott Free, even
2:24:21
Speaker 2: though a lot of people are on like the we
2:24:24
Speaker 2: love jelly roll thing right now.
2:24:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's but it's the flavor of the you're
2:24:30
Speaker 1: supposed to like it, like, you know, it's one of
2:24:33
Speaker 1: the things that's you know, you that that was very
2:24:36
Speaker 1: very the powers behind that brand gonna make that a
2:24:42
Speaker 1: major brand. That that was the deal that he signed
2:24:45
Speaker 1: on for.
2:24:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I think that dude is like as like
2:24:49
Speaker 5: a practicing magician of some kind, Like he's he's very
2:24:53
Speaker 5: familiar with like energies. And because I watched his documentary
2:24:57
Speaker 5: it was on Hulu, it was a big major thing.
2:24:59
Speaker 5: But like I said, I don't get emotional about much
2:25:02
Speaker 5: at all, And I almost cried a couple of times
2:25:04
Speaker 5: watching this dude talk to people just because he's very
2:25:06
Speaker 5: good at like, you know, emotion. You can you can
2:25:11
Speaker 5: hear one of his songs, and me and my my
2:25:14
Speaker 5: dad loves him. So we went and saw him and uh,
2:25:16
Speaker 5: someone else, I forget who it was. They just toured
2:25:18
Speaker 5: not too long ago. And yeah, man, he's he's got
2:25:21
Speaker 5: a powerful voice. I mean. But yeah, when that dude
2:25:24
Speaker 5: talks to people, and like, you sit there and you
2:25:26
Speaker 5: see him crying, it makes you want to join him
2:25:28
Speaker 5: and just cry with him for no reason. And it's
2:25:30
Speaker 5: fucking weird.
2:25:30
Speaker 3: Man.
2:25:31
Speaker 1: The ability, the ability to vessel is a good word, uh,
2:25:38
Speaker 1: but the ability to connect with people, that's a special ability.
2:25:41
Speaker 1: And and people that have it and want to get
2:25:44
Speaker 1: into public work entertainment in particular, the ones that are
2:25:49
Speaker 1: really really good at it, they're the ones that the
2:25:52
Speaker 1: the the powers that shouldn't be are going to come
2:25:55
Speaker 1: come a call in at some point and there and
2:25:56
Speaker 1: then and then they're going they're gonna want to have
2:25:58
Speaker 1: a talk. And I don't want to please no, non
2:26:03
Speaker 1: Ice Cuban, Tom Petty, Let's let's let you know you.
2:26:07
Speaker 3: I thought it was very poetic and ironic that we
2:26:11
Speaker 3: all kind of agreed that like Morrissey's all we got now.
2:26:15
Speaker 1: I just saw Morsey. I just saw Morcy about a
2:26:17
Speaker 1: month ago.
2:26:18
Speaker 3: So good.
2:26:19
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like a I was like a fourteen year
2:26:21
Speaker 1: old girl at that show. I was so fucking happy
2:26:23
Speaker 1: to be there. He's he's so he's so awesome. Man,
2:26:26
Speaker 1: what a what a what an awesome sassy old queen?
2:26:30
Speaker 1: He is?
2:26:32
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna lie. I don't even know who
2:26:33
Speaker 5: that is.
2:26:33
Speaker 3: Who is you know the Smiths saying like, is it
2:26:37
Speaker 3: called how soon? Is now their big hit?
2:26:40
Speaker 1: They've had so many? Yeah, queen is dead.
2:26:43
Speaker 5: I mean probably if I heard it man, to be honest,
2:26:45
Speaker 5: but yeah, I do not know who that is the Smiths.
2:26:48
Speaker 3: But he's got quite a huge solo career as well.
2:26:51
Speaker 1: But way back in the early eighties, there was this
2:26:54
Speaker 1: band called and they were pretty big. We all all
2:26:58
Speaker 1: that kids look them back then.
2:26:59
Speaker 3: I love Johnny Mar too, like that fucking guitar. I
2:27:02
Speaker 3: mean he joined Medess Mouse and changed their sound.
2:27:05
Speaker 1: But yeah, about about a year and a half ago,
2:27:08
Speaker 1: my wife and I went and saw The Killers. And
2:27:10
Speaker 1: I do not go in and seeing arena shows, but
2:27:13
Speaker 1: we saw The Killers and Johnny Marr opened up for
2:27:16
Speaker 1: oh nice, and half of the set was Smith's songs,
2:27:19
Speaker 1: and it was I have to admit, as an old dude,
2:27:22
Speaker 1: it was pretty awesome listening to an arena full of
2:27:25
Speaker 1: people singing sing those songs, you know, and there's nobody
2:27:28
Speaker 1: in the crowd that was under the age of forty.
2:27:31
Speaker 1: You know, it's good.
2:27:34
Speaker 5: Those concerts are probably some of the best stuff.
2:27:37
Speaker 3: Well, guys, work, We're creeping up past two and a
2:27:41
Speaker 3: half hours. I'll go around the house here. Any any thought,
2:27:47
Speaker 3: closing thoughts or stuff you wanted to interject through the
2:27:49
Speaker 3: er that you did weren't able to. I'll start with
2:27:51
Speaker 3: ladies first. I'll start with Julia, then we'll go Ryan,
2:27:54
Speaker 3: and then we'll close out with John.
2:27:57
Speaker 2: I don't really have anything else about some of the
2:28:00
Speaker 2: topics we were talking about, but I do want John
2:28:03
Speaker 2: to come on my show because I feel like we
2:28:05
Speaker 2: could really get down on some healthcare stuff. And yeah,
2:28:11
Speaker 2: I think we could. We could talk more in depth
2:28:14
Speaker 2: in another episode, just on like health stuff, because it
2:28:17
Speaker 2: really interests me. I know it's not everybody's cup of tea,
2:28:21
Speaker 2: but I I have been looking into a lot of
2:28:24
Speaker 2: stuff myself, especially like I said, with my mom having cancer,
2:28:28
Speaker 2: and I have a ton of theories that I would
2:28:30
Speaker 2: love to run past you on some of that.
2:28:32
Speaker 1: So you'd say, say other word, I'm a little shy
2:28:36
Speaker 1: and it's hard to get me to talk but once.
2:28:39
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know.
2:28:40
Speaker 2: I I have really enjoyed our conversation today. I think
2:28:44
Speaker 2: it was a great time.
2:28:48
Speaker 3: Ryan. Yeah, yeah, conversation.
2:28:52
Speaker 5: I agree with everything that Julia said as far as
2:28:54
Speaker 5: the conversation being great. It's always nice to connect with
2:28:56
Speaker 5: you Colby and then John, you know, only talking about
2:28:59
Speaker 5: once a year, but you know, two years in a row,
2:29:01
Speaker 5: and it's been awesome both times.
2:29:03
Speaker 3: It's it's make it more like six months next time. Yeah,
2:29:07
Speaker 3: we double the summer.
2:29:10
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, No, it's very fun. And I learned
2:29:17
Speaker 5: a lot talking to both of you guys, and then
2:29:19
Speaker 5: obviously Julia too learned a lot talking with you. And yeah,
2:29:22
Speaker 5: I'm not doing as much content these days, but we
2:29:25
Speaker 5: do do the weekly news show me and my friend
2:29:27
Speaker 5: Ghosts from my third d podcast. People sending clips and
2:29:30
Speaker 5: we we share those and talk about them, usually talk
2:29:33
Speaker 5: about some food and some other bullshit, and it's just
2:29:35
Speaker 5: kind of a chill, little uh chat that we have,
2:29:38
Speaker 5: you know, talking about.
2:29:39
Speaker 3: Snooze and the shows.
2:29:41
Speaker 5: It's Conspiracy Underground News Team. You know, you can you know,
2:29:46
Speaker 5: the acronym is Kunt Spirity and Underground News Team. It's
2:29:50
Speaker 5: the show called Cunt. Everyone loves it. But yeah, I'm
2:29:54
Speaker 5: looking ato getting more into more episodes. I'm actually working
2:29:56
Speaker 5: on a Disturbing Toys episode. You know that they're there's
2:30:00
Speaker 5: a company called Lissi that made a nine to eleven
2:30:03
Speaker 5: pez dispenser type thing.
2:30:06
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's two.
2:30:07
Speaker 5: Towers and a plane. There's there's all kinds of fucked
2:30:10
Speaker 5: up toys that are out there, and so I'm getting
2:30:12
Speaker 5: into that, trying to get back into doing like the
2:30:15
Speaker 5: solo content more and more so and find me a
2:30:19
Speaker 5: Dangerous World podcast.
2:30:21
Speaker 3: Dangerous you're so modest with your plugs, dude.
2:30:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't. I don't do as much these days, man,
2:30:27
Speaker 5: I've really been I used to do like four or
2:30:29
Speaker 5: five episodes a week and now I'm just doing the one.
2:30:31
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to get back more into it because
2:30:33
Speaker 5: you know, the ad revenue has gone down and all
2:30:35
Speaker 5: that stuff. So I'm trying to, you know, break back
2:30:37
Speaker 5: in more. So we'll get there.
2:30:39
Speaker 2: You can hit me up anytime Ryan cool.
2:30:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will together. Yeah, that's always fun. So yeah,
2:30:46
Speaker 5: thank you time job.
2:30:47
Speaker 3: Now she's a poscast.
2:30:50
Speaker 5: Yep, that's dope. That is fun. Yeah. No, I I
2:30:54
Speaker 5: will definitely hit chips Julia.
2:30:57
Speaker 3: All right, John, Last, but certainly not at least wrap
2:31:01
Speaker 3: it up in a pretty low bow and plug anything
2:31:03
Speaker 3: you you got going these days.
2:31:05
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not here to plug anything in particular. I
2:31:08
Speaker 1: just always appreciate the conversation and I and I think,
2:31:11
Speaker 1: you know, like I think it is. I would I
2:31:14
Speaker 1: would ask the listeners and the viewers, those that have
2:31:17
Speaker 1: hung in this far first of all, thank you. Secondly,
2:31:22
Speaker 1: a lot of times when you hear people talking about
2:31:25
Speaker 1: the topics like we talked about on this episode, some
2:31:29
Speaker 1: of this stuff is so we talked it might sound
2:31:33
Speaker 1: matter of fact, but I want more people. I want
2:31:41
Speaker 1: I want to get I'd like to get rid of
2:31:43
Speaker 1: the word conspiracy, because the word conspiracy in in itself
2:31:47
Speaker 1: is a conspiracy. Yeah, I mean that that wasn't even
2:31:51
Speaker 1: really used until the JFK is the Bruder film thing.
2:31:54
Speaker 1: But anyways, it's it's it's showbiz. It's it's showbiz, and
2:32:00
Speaker 1: these are actors and they're being paid to do a
2:32:03
Speaker 1: job and they're doing that job, and be more open
2:32:09
Speaker 1: to the fact that actors exist and these narratives are storylines,
2:32:18
Speaker 1: and they are being paid to do what they're told.
2:32:21
Speaker 1: And you might think that that's conspiratorial, but being an
2:32:27
Speaker 1: actor is a trade that's been around for a long
2:32:29
Speaker 1: time and it's not going anywhere, and there will always
2:32:31
Speaker 1: be actors, there will always be storylines. And as long
2:32:34
Speaker 1: as people are glued to their screens and electronic devices
2:32:39
Speaker 1: and taking their cues from those screens and those electronic devices,
2:32:43
Speaker 1: that's really what most people's view of the world is
2:32:48
Speaker 1: is what their screens and their electronic devices are telling them.
2:32:51
Speaker 1: And these aren't sovereign devices. These devices are they're made
2:32:56
Speaker 1: by companies. They know exactly what they're doing, they know
2:33:00
Speaker 1: what they're allowing you to see, what they're allowing you
2:33:03
Speaker 1: to hear, and just be I don't know. Again, I'd
2:33:08
Speaker 1: like to get rid of the use of the word conspiracy,
2:33:10
Speaker 1: and and and and and.
2:33:12
Speaker 3: Do you think I should change the name of my show? No?
2:33:14
Speaker 1: No, no, because good, because that's a good that's a
2:33:17
Speaker 1: good use of time, because it pull it pulls, it
2:33:20
Speaker 1: pulls in the right audience. But when we're talking about
2:33:23
Speaker 1: like things like you know, oh, the Taylor Swift that
2:33:26
Speaker 1: was on stage the other night might not be the
2:33:28
Speaker 1: original Taylor Swift. That's not conspiratorial. That's showbiz. That's show buzy.
2:33:34
Speaker 1: And you know, anyone that's run a business and had
2:33:38
Speaker 1: to deal with employees knows that you you've got shifts
2:33:41
Speaker 1: to cover, and you've got positions that need filled, and
2:33:44
Speaker 1: you've got tasks that need to be done. And it's uh,
2:33:47
Speaker 1: it works good when you find willing participants who are
2:33:51
Speaker 1: good at their job and willing to do that job.
2:33:53
Speaker 1: And it's no different in the entertainment industry. And if
2:33:57
Speaker 1: it's coming off of your screens, it's all entertainment.
2:34:01
Speaker 2: Well, Colby is a crisis actor. He plays a great
2:34:05
Speaker 2: rape victim.
2:34:08
Speaker 1: There's dot I don't know that. I want to know
2:34:12
Speaker 1: the backstory to that, but he's smiling. Let's just leave
2:34:15
Speaker 1: it at that.
2:34:16
Speaker 3: I'm curious about the backstory myself.
2:34:20
Speaker 1: Oh, it sounds like sounds like.
2:34:24
Speaker 3: MK ultra sponsored conspiracy plates. So John, you don't want
2:34:28
Speaker 3: to plug anything, I'm not going to force you.
2:34:31
Speaker 1: No, you know, I'll tell you what you want if
2:34:36
Speaker 1: if you can see the screen, you know you see
2:34:38
Speaker 1: the Naturally Better for You dot com U r L.
2:34:41
Speaker 1: That is a now that is pure health and wellness
2:34:44
Speaker 1: knowledge share right there. So we're not talking about the
2:34:48
Speaker 1: shape of the earth or Taylor Swift stand ins or
2:34:51
Speaker 1: any of that kind of stuff. There, it's pure health
2:34:53
Speaker 1: and wellness. And when I am not diving down rabbit holes,
2:34:59
Speaker 1: which I love to do, I'm I'm and because of
2:35:04
Speaker 1: some of the rabbit holes I've go down, I've just
2:35:06
Speaker 1: my heart is in health and wellness. I want I
2:35:08
Speaker 1: want to see my wife get better. I want to
2:35:11
Speaker 1: see other people who have problems not to turn to
2:35:16
Speaker 1: the uh uh, the medical industrial complex. We we we
2:35:20
Speaker 1: know not to look to the fast food industry for
2:35:23
Speaker 1: our nutrition. Well, I would like to get people in
2:35:26
Speaker 1: the mindset that the medical industrial complex is kind of
2:35:29
Speaker 1: like the fast food industry of health and wellness. And
2:35:31
Speaker 1: so if we know to stay away from fast food, well,
2:35:34
Speaker 1: stay away from fast food. And and so if you're
2:35:37
Speaker 1: interested in any of that kind of stuff, go to
2:35:40
Speaker 1: Naturallybetter for You dot com. And that's uh, that's kind
2:35:43
Speaker 1: of what I do with my spare time. Just I
2:35:46
Speaker 1: I try. There's there's some good people that I'm involved
2:35:48
Speaker 1: with there Uh, there's a good community of people and
2:35:51
Speaker 1: a huge knowledge share, and we there there there, there
2:35:56
Speaker 1: is a we want to see everybody live a better
2:35:59
Speaker 1: life nowly and so so if that resonates with you,
2:36:03
Speaker 1: go there. But that's about as much of a pitch
2:36:05
Speaker 1: as as I care to do.
2:36:08
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that's all that's all we want here,
2:36:10
Speaker 3: And I think that angle. I mean, it's not conspiratorial necessarily,
2:36:17
Speaker 3: but we all know about the medical industrial complex. Ryan
2:36:21
Speaker 3: and John both use those terms, and I think, yes,
2:36:25
Speaker 3: steering more people towards what you've got going on over
2:36:28
Speaker 3: there is very important.
2:36:30
Speaker 1: Or or you know what you know, it's it's been
2:36:32
Speaker 1: said many many times. You know your your your medicine
2:36:35
Speaker 1: cabinet is actually your kitchen, So start taking that seriously. Yeah.
2:36:42
Speaker 1: I don't know why people choose to offload the responsibility
2:36:45
Speaker 1: of their health and wellness to a corporate government entity,
2:36:48
Speaker 1: but you know it could start in your kitchen. There's
2:36:50
Speaker 1: your medicine cabinet. Start taking it seriously. And I hope that,
2:36:53
Speaker 1: you know, I hope that we get to a place
2:36:55
Speaker 1: someday soon where people walk into your average American grocery
2:36:59
Speaker 1: store and hope they're offended by what they see, because
2:37:02
Speaker 1: all it is is like food porns, just sugar and
2:37:05
Speaker 1: carbs and crab and als, gross seed oils and shit.
2:37:09
Speaker 1: There's there's hardly anything edible inside most grocery stores. It's
2:37:13
Speaker 1: not food, it's feed. And you know, food is stuff
2:37:18
Speaker 1: in its natural form. And it's hard to find some
2:37:21
Speaker 1: natural stuff even in the best grocery stores. You know,
2:37:25
Speaker 1: even in the produce section. Try and find, you know,
2:37:28
Speaker 1: produce that hasn't been sprayed with shit or grown in
2:37:31
Speaker 1: toxic chemically shit, or packaged and shit. I mean, it's
2:37:36
Speaker 1: the only tomato you can trust is the tomato that
2:37:39
Speaker 1: you or somebody you knew, group you know, and so
2:37:42
Speaker 1: eat those tomatoes. Don't buy them from corporate sources. You know.
2:37:48
Speaker 5: That.
2:37:49
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to end this recording. Thank you, conspiracy players.
2:37:53
Speaker 3: Be sure to wash behind your ears and grow your
2:37:56
Speaker 3: own tomatoes, and I think everything will be all right,