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ITB: Eagles Schedule Intel, Part 2: Major NFC East Rivalry Games In October · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on everybody? It
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  Speaker 1: is Jeff Mosher Adam Kaplan and we are continuing our
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  Speaker 1: schedule analysis podcast series of the Eagles twenty twenty six schedule.
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  Speaker 1: We hope everyone is having a great Memorial Day holiday
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  Speaker 1: and weekend. Weather here in the Northeast not so great,
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  Speaker 1: but I hope everybody's enjoying themselves. Maybe took a moment
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  Speaker 1: to reflect on those who gave our lives for our country.
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  Speaker 1: And Adam, we are in a really cool part of
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  Speaker 1: the schedule here because we are going to do weeks five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 1: and nine. Why not we eight because that's the Commanders
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  Speaker 1: and we already did the matchup versus Commanders in part
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  Speaker 1: one of this. So five, six, seven, nine, that's Jags
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  Speaker 1: in London, that's Panthers, that's Cowboys big game Monday Night,
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  Speaker 1: and of course Giants before in week nine before they
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  Speaker 1: head into the bye week. So by the time we're
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  Speaker 1: done with this, we'll pretty much cover close to the
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  Speaker 1: first half of the schedule as they enter the bye
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  Speaker 1: In the first to first two podcasts of this series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I really enjoyed the
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  Speaker 2: first one that it's interesting because as you go through
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  Speaker 2: it and you go through what you know, sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: have a different opinion of what you thought, like maybe
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  Speaker 2: a month ago. Because we've had the draft that the
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  Speaker 2: whole exercise years it's after the draft season, have had
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  Speaker 2: that exercise done. That's a big thing for the off season.
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  Speaker 2: Now they have their schedule, so you kind of know
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  Speaker 2: how it's all they teams know who they were going
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  Speaker 2: to play, they just didn't know when they were going
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  Speaker 2: to play them.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: This one's interesting because as we get as we get
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  Speaker 2: to here in week number five for the Eagles in London,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, one of their standalone games right in
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  Speaker 2: nine thirty Eastern, which I absolutely love. I know my
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  Speaker 2: West Coast friends don't like that at six thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's gotta be brutal for them.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know, but it's funny. I Uh, last
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  Speaker 2: week before a group, I told the Tier three so
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  Speaker 2: I said, hey, this is what we're doing. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to add something new for you guys. Probably do it
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  Speaker 2: monthly and uh, we'll probably do one yeah, and that'll
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  Speaker 2: be the fifth game. So we'll probably do week one. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: we'll do a live stream postgame and people it's almost
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  Speaker 2: like a talk show. You could rant, you could rave
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want, an instant reaction. We'll give you what
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  Speaker 2: I have. It's kind of cool. And the Jaguars game
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  Speaker 2: probably be the second one. The cool thing is, right,
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  Speaker 2: as someone pointed out, this game will be over by
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  Speaker 2: twelve thirty. Watch the pregame show for some whatever network
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  Speaker 2: if you want, and then you got the one o'clocks.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, let me amend that.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You watch the Eagles Jaguars game, then you listen to
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  Speaker 1: the Inside the Birds post game show, which we usually
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  Speaker 1: have up right after right.
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  Speaker 2: And live though. Oh well, put it right up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we put it right up anyway. I think
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  Speaker 1: there'll be enough time, So there you go, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Another interesting thing about this five game
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  Speaker 1: stretch outam, and this is so typical of the NFL
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  Speaker 1: now and really the Eagles too, being a prime time
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  Speaker 1: type of team. Of these next five games we're going
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  Speaker 1: to discuss, four of them are in completely different time slots.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned the nine thirty am kickoff right against the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna see a one o'clock game against the Panthers.
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  Speaker 1: Are gonna see an eight and fifteen against the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: in eight twenty against the Commanders. So it's just that's
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, not against I'm sorry. Then there's a one
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  Speaker 1: o'clock against the because we already the Commanders one o'clock
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  Speaker 1: at Eagles. So nine thirty one pm, eight fifteen, three
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  Speaker 1: of the four games are in a different time slot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so odd that the week four that
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  Speaker 2: the Rams are at one o'clock, which certainly is an advantage
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  Speaker 2: for the Eagles, because I'll be interested to see what
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  Speaker 2: how the Rams handle getting into town that week. You
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  Speaker 2: know what, it's a Sunday one o'clock game. Now the
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  Speaker 2: week before the Rams are at Denver. Oh, you know
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  Speaker 2: what it is. You know, it's interesting there. Yeah, it's uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's a September twenty seventh, which seems to
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  Speaker 2: me like it would be a Sunday night game. Don't
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  Speaker 2: check that one, but that's what it looks like in
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  Speaker 2: week three.
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  Speaker 1: That might be our answer. By the way, why Rams
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  Speaker 1: Eagles wasn't more of a four o'clock or a night
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  Speaker 1: or a game because the Eagles have to go to
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  Speaker 1: London the next week and they maybe wanted to give
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  Speaker 1: them as much you know, rest for that as possible,
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  Speaker 1: now that I think about it, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the Rams play at Denver the week before
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night. Now, one thing I know people have questioned this. Know,
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  Speaker 2: some reporters didn't understand that the teams actually could request this.
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  Speaker 2: Teams are able to request where they want to have
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  Speaker 2: a bye after the London game or not whatever. It's
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  Speaker 2: an international game. There's some teams they've studied that rest
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  Speaker 2: versus no rest and time off after the international game
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  Speaker 2: having a bye after. Some teams say that they've tried
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  Speaker 2: both and there's really no definitive answer which is better. Right, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to are not taking the didn't
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  Speaker 2: they're let's see, yeah, they're they're not gonna have a
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  Speaker 2: buy after this game in London.
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  Speaker 1: Hum hm, that's right, because they don't have a buy
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  Speaker 1: until after that that Giant.
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  Speaker 2: We Yeah, you can request it, Yes, you can heal
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  Speaker 2: that's yeh. Scheduling recruss you can. Yeah. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was bizarre. One year, maybe like five years ago, a
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  Speaker 2: team decided they wanted to play and then I heard
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  Speaker 2: I heard the coach, the head coach whatever team wants
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  Speaker 2: to explain the process because you. You have to outline
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  Speaker 2: all the issues for scheduling that season. Is there a
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  Speaker 2: concert going on? You know? Traffic? You know, they want
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  Speaker 2: to they the league can't the schedule. Mike North and
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  Speaker 2: his group can't do everything. They try to do their best,
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  Speaker 2: but they want to know, like what what what are
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  Speaker 2: you walking into? Rest that they they don't want any
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  Speaker 2: unfair advantages. They also don't want to give a team
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  Speaker 2: a disadvantage, you know. So that's the way it was.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, how long is a flight from Philly to London?
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  Speaker 2: I forget, I don't know. I know you could get
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  Speaker 2: it direct. I'm pretty certain you can get a non starf.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, is it that much different than a
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  Speaker 1: West coast trip? It's about ten hours? I'm looking seven
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  Speaker 1: to ten hours. Okay, so it's a little bit. It's
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  Speaker 1: like flying to Seattle, to be honest with you, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a little warner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. You know, the team have a charter flight.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they have their own flight, but probably these
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  Speaker 2: the Eagle fly American airlines. But US civilians, we you know,
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  Speaker 2: we we can pay. You know, you can pay for it.
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  Speaker 2: You can get non stop, but yeah, it does take
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  Speaker 2: a while. So Uh, look, I remember we talked about
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  Speaker 2: this before. Goddar had a really he had a great
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  Speaker 2: running catch against him in twenty eighteen. YEP team game, YEP,
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  Speaker 2: Lendon game. But this is our home away from home.
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  Speaker 2: Shot Conos the soccer team. You know he's over there,
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  Speaker 2: the owner. Sure, his son, Tony has the AEW Rustling company.
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  Speaker 2: Tony's Tony's interesting guy. You know, he's big on data
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And what's interesting is is we
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  Speaker 2: get through this this game here with Jacksonville. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at the Trent Bulky regime, you know he went
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  Speaker 2: up getting let go, which is no surprise, but he
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  Speaker 2: drafted some very good players like he he You can
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  Speaker 2: say what you want about the guy. Guy knows football.
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  Speaker 2: He's made his mistakes, a lot of injured players, you know.
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  Speaker 2: He Fangio, by the way, was there in twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 2: He was there DC when they made the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: lost to Baltimore unfortunately. Yep, with Trent Bulky. So if
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  Speaker 2: you look at this this roster, now let's started their offense.
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  Speaker 2: Some notes. Brian Thomas was unbelievable. You're one, right, the
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  Speaker 2: tall player Chad Hall was his coach. You're one who's
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  Speaker 2: now with the Giants as the receivers coach.
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  Speaker 1: M hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I mean last year Thomas dropped off significantly, and that's
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  Speaker 2: concerning now Jacoby Myers is was over. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: a great contract for Jerusalees. I certainly went criticizem did
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  Speaker 2: a great job on it. I don't know how what
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  Speaker 2: leverage he had, but twenty million a year for a
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  Speaker 2: tall slot receiver. And Jacoby Myers, I'm sorry, he's not
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  Speaker 2: that good, nice player considering development as an undirector free
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  Speaker 2: agent when he was with New England. But that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: And then they've got well they keep saying Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 2: now will still play some receiver we'll see coming off
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  Speaker 2: knee surgery, and to Parker Washington as their slot is
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  Speaker 2: like Myers is more of a Z receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I don't get about their offense
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  Speaker 1: is like it seems like there's a logjam of slots
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  Speaker 1: between Parker Washington and Jacoby Myers. And even if Travis
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  Speaker 1: Hunter does wind up playing a little offense and we'll
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  Speaker 1: see like he that's where you would want to line
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  Speaker 1: him up also on the insign.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so then you know a tight end. They're
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  Speaker 2: another team that you know, one year they draft Brenton
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  Speaker 2: Strange and I know this is a previous regime. And
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  Speaker 2: then the tight end from Texas A and m Port
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  Speaker 2: Kircher we just drafted in the second round, which was
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  Speaker 2: but some teams saw that as a major reach, like
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  Speaker 2: way too early, Like Brenton Strange is seeing his way
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  Speaker 2: too early. Now he's that's he's actually come on a
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  Speaker 2: little bit a little bit last season. But so going
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  Speaker 2: against the Eagles here to me if Port Kircher is
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  Speaker 2: they also drafted a tight end in the fifth round
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  Speaker 2: from Houston.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I don't get. And this is
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  Speaker 1: where I'm sorry, I don't mean. I'm wondering if this
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  Speaker 1: is a Liam Cohen, who, as we know, or as
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  Speaker 1: we'll tell people if they don't know, coached under Sean
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  Speaker 1: McVay in LA.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Is this is he trying to borrow from his old
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  Speaker 1: coaching mentor by loading up here on tight ends early,
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  Speaker 1: or is this a gladstone in the GM who is
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  Speaker 1: young and progressive and a little bit more aggressive. I remember, look,
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  Speaker 1: who is he come? He came from LA too, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he's there, but he's there. Liam Cohen wanted him.
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  Speaker 2: That's why he's there, right.
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  Speaker 1: He learned under Les Snead, who's mister f M Picks guy,
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  Speaker 1: And of course they gave up all those picks for punter.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have a first round but I Adam, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't talk about this because we don't talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Jags much. But when they didn't have a first round
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  Speaker 1: pick this year and then came back and took a
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  Speaker 1: tight end in the second round with their first pick,
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  Speaker 1: I almost fell off my chair. And I'm curious to say,
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  Speaker 1: I want to do a study of teams that have
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  Speaker 1: drafted tight ends in the second round two years in
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  Speaker 1: a row, well to see how that's worked out. That
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of Dallas, right, didn't they do that with
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  Speaker 1: Schoonmaker and Ferguson.
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  Speaker 2: Maker was a major. I was floored, Like I know,
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  Speaker 2: one personal guy said he needs a pretty athletic why
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  Speaker 2: but he goes he she had no business go in
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  Speaker 2: the second round. This is what the guy told me,
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  Speaker 2: because I I was like, where do you have him?
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  Speaker 2: We had a four on him, right and he's really
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  Speaker 2: done next to nothing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, so in conticuarly, this this doesn't
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  Speaker 1: fall into the same category. But the Jets took Kenyan City, correct,
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  Speaker 1: they did, and they right, and they took last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now, listen, if you're gonna be on your point,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to be like Sean McVay and this
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  Speaker 2: is what you're gonna do, you're ready. You're ready dictating.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna be heavy twelve personnel for the for as
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: long as you coach there, I'm fine with it. As
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  Speaker 2: long as both got as long as you get it right.
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  Speaker 2: Because you don't draft a wide tight end the second round.
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  Speaker 2: They both have to be pass catchers. It clearly is
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  Speaker 2: a Mason Taylor could do both. Okay, I could see
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  Speaker 2: that one. You could you. I could totally see it.
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  Speaker 2: They're both very talented. Yes, but the kid or Kercher
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  Speaker 2: like that. We'll see how he does.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you Gladstone's either an evil genius or he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be fired in two years.
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  Speaker 2: They got heavily critic I could tell you I took
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  Speaker 2: a lot of I took a lot of opinions when
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  Speaker 2: personnel people thought that was a massive overpay for Travis Hunter. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: for what they gave up Drew Berry much bligned Andrew
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: Berry coming off a great draft last year. Right, that
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  Speaker 2: was a good trade that he made with him with Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you make a good point.
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  Speaker 1: It's even worse, right if they don't wind up making
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  Speaker 1: Hunter a two way play, if he just winds up
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  Speaker 1: playing one side of the ball. You just gave up
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  Speaker 1: a ton of draft stock for a corner. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he might aggress me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you this will happen. This is like a
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: lot there are on a lot of locks of the NFL.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: He will wind up being a full time corner someday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: The Wyst explaining me is for game planning. Coaches have
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  Speaker 2: to know how many they have to know what the
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  Speaker 2: guy is for for my position as a coach, and
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: by Anthony Campanelli, their coordinator, he's got it, he's he
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  Speaker 2: did a great job. Well, he did a great job.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, So going against the Eagles, this is
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  Speaker 2: not a very good offensive line. It's just not. It's okay,
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  Speaker 2: Ezra Cleveland, who they acquired a couple years ago in
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: the trades that he's he's gotten better. It's gotten better. Hainsey,
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  Speaker 2: who could play garter center, is gonna played the center
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  Speaker 2: for them. Coming over for Tampa McCarry. Uh, who got
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  Speaker 2: paid well to be their right guard.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Walker Little's there left, Anton Harrison's there there. This is
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  Speaker 2: just a very average offensive line. They have some depth
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  Speaker 2: the draft pregnant the third round, you know from from Morgan,
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  Speaker 2: who we talked about in the pre draft process. This
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  Speaker 2: is a very beatable I'm telling you. With this Eagles front,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: they're all back the front, freeze back, uh, Gerard Gernard.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like they're gonna do very well against
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  Speaker 2: this group.
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  Speaker 1: My only sort of curiosity about it is that it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of the same offensive line the Jaguars had last year,
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  Speaker 1: and somehow the Jags won thirteen games, And yes, they
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of cupcakes on the schedule from the
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  Speaker 1: year before, but they still had to play the Niners.
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  Speaker 1: They beat them. They played the Chiefs. Everybody remembers this
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  Speaker 1: is before. This is when the Chiefs were struggling. But
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: they're still the Chiefs. Mahomes were healthy. They won that
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: game on the Trevor Lawrence rushing touchdown at the last minute.
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  Speaker 1: So they beat those two teams. They beat the Texans
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: all right, Texans were a playoff team. They beat the
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: Chargers thirty five. They had the weirdest wins and losses
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  Speaker 1: last year. They lost to some team, they lost to
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: the Bengals, so it didn't some of their wins didn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense to me. But they ended the year like
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: on a seven or eight game win streak. Couple. You know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously you have your Jets in there, but they beat
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos. So despite having a bad or mediocre to
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  Speaker 1: blow average offensive line, they made do. The Jags were my, like,
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  Speaker 1: my weird team last year. When I did my weekend
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I went through every game. I just couldn't
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  Speaker 1: believe they won some of the games that they did.
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  Speaker 1: And then when I got got like excited about them,
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  Speaker 1: then they lost some games. So I don't understand them.
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  Speaker 1: William Cohan did a great job. But you're right, this
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, if you looked at it normally, just on paper,
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  Speaker 1: this roster, I think in general, you'd say this team
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  Speaker 1: doesn't this team looks as okay. Maybe they were a
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  Speaker 1: regression candidate.
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  Speaker 2: Oh because they came out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I mean, do I like
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Yes, I don't love Trevor Lawrence. He's okay.
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  Speaker 1: He has moments where he looks very good. He has
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  Speaker 1: moments where behind that offensive line he doesn't look good
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  Speaker 1: and makes bad mistakes. You know, Brian Thomas junior, you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned him very talented, dropped a lot of balls last year.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: An amazing stat is that Brian Thomas went from a
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  Speaker 1: twelve hundred yard receiver to a seven hundred and seventy
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: something yard receiver, and yet he averaged the exact same
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: yards per catch as a rookie and second year, which
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  Speaker 1: is almost astonishing. He's got to get his role figured out.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: They Travis Hunter has not really blossomed into an offensive weapon.
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  Speaker 1: He got hurt. The offensive line is not good. They're
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  Speaker 1: running back trio. I mean, I know they love Visual Tooton,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: who they drafted fourth round last year, and they add
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez. They have the Quinn Allen's with Seri. There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing about this offense where I'm like, oh man, you
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: really draw a red circle around this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Like, well, good coaching, but great, right, great coaching by
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  Speaker 2: Liam Cohene to get Trevor Lawrence finally. He basically was
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  Speaker 2: like probably the most overrated quarterback coming the last season
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  Speaker 2: and he finally got it done. He just was an unachieved.
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  Speaker 2: He got that big contract.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but by the way, in October. In October, he
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  Speaker 1: had the lowest passer rating, Like through the first seven
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  Speaker 1: or eight weeks of season, he had the lowest passer
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: rating among all NFL starting qbs. So his all his
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: season last year was up and down as well.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Uneven.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very uneven the number he put up.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: He put up very big numbers. But it's just weird
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: how he was not connecting with Brian Thomas. Uh. You know,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: it's interesting before we move to the the their defense.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: So they had this kid. They this personal staff didn't
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: trade for him. The previous one did. Call Van Lannon,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: they extended his contract. He's got to start. Now the
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: question is is he going to play guard or tackle?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Because Walker Little they extended. He's their left harrison. Now,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: how this staff didn't draft, They weren't around for Anton Harrison,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: who's on the funny rookie deal. So I'm interested to
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: see it because Van Lannon's getting seventeen million a year. Walker
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: is their left tackle. They do they move Van Lannon
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: inside or do they playm at right tackle where So
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how they go about this because
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: now they now that this coaching staff had a year
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: to has had a time to think about it, where
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: do they go? But I'm just telling you it's it's
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: an okay offensive line. This is a very beatable offensive
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: line to me, Now, if I'm the way I see it,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: if this kid Boke boor Kercher is good enough to
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: be on the field a lot with with with Strange,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: who's good, good player, he can move, Yeah, he's been
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: better than expected for sure. So oh you know, you
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: know before.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: You moved for me, I loved him at Penn State,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: by the way, I had a feeling he was going
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: to really because I knew he was a really good athlete.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I had a feeling he would kind of catch. Penn
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: State's passing offense is never good, so I had a
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: feeling once he got to the NFL you would actually
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: see him shine a little bit.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I remember talking to one of their coaches, uh from
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the previous staff on a Doug staff. He said, Hey,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: what do you think of the strange kid? He goes
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: and we'll see he goes. I know that people think
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: we reached for him, but I'll tell you what, this
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: kid's an athlete like, this kid's going to help us
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: at some point. Yeah, and he did. So I like
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: these matchups. Oh you know what, you know who's on
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: their team for now? Justin Herbert's brother Patrick, because they
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: back up tight end for them.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, that is Justin Herbert's brother. Okay, another thing
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: with the offensive line. Did draft Emmanuel Pregnant at't Oregon
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: third round? The guy we liked, you know, greyg co
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: so liked him. Thought he could kind of be a
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: plug and play guard. But to your point, if you're
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: going to start lit at left tackle and you got
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: this contract around Van Lenen, so he's got to play
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and he moves to guard, you're not. I believe McClary's
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the right guard. So where's the room? If Pregnant looks
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: good in training camp, what are you doing with him?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Where's the room?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Again? There's yeah, But understand a couple of things. You've
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: got to remember. He's got a four year rookie deal.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: He's only a third round pick. He could be the
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: top backup guard for you know, for a year or two,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: and then they can move on. They can move on
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: from Cleveland, so that that's where he could go. But
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I see what you're saying, there's gonna be someone who's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: an odd man out Wyatt Millam who was drafted last year,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: and a third, so they have some depth they're gonna have.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And uh Truma odug Odoga I remember from the Giants
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: excuse me Jets years ago as a journeyman. He's there too,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: so they they've got depth that's good to have. But
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: overall I questioned the talent. I just feel like this
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: is one where Vic probably feels, not that he blitzes.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: He doesn't like the blitz, but this is one you don't.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think you have to bring the heat you got.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: They should win.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think this will be an overwhell. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: mean again, I don't know, because the Jags figured out
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: away last year to win a bunch of games in
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a row against some some teams were good. But I
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: just with the talent, the Eagles having a secondary and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: we'll find out by the way. To build on our
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: discussion from the last podcast about the schedule, now that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: we know that Cooper de Gen will be playing safety
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and base and now that we're seeing a team like
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville coming after a team like the Rams, and then
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: earlier on in the Eagles schedule. They're gonna play a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: two tight end team, the Bears. Right, they're gonna go Bears, Rams,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Jags three straight weeks. We might see a ton. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: don't want to say a ton because Vic does go
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: nickel sometimes against two tight ends if he thinks they're
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: pass catchers. But I got a feeling we're gonna see
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Cooper de Gen in base defense a little more than
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: we expect early on this season.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: No, I agree, you made a great point last week.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I agree with you just looking over it. Jacksonville is
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: another twelve personnel team. There'll be a balance twelve and eleven.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: But it's not hard to figure out. You just look
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: at the person know. Sometimes it's a little bit harder
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: if at if a team spent you know, if they've
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: got five quality receivers and you you've got two really
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: good head ends, well you could balance both. You know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: you could play both. So uh, now switching sides of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the football here, Trayvon Walker. You know he got his
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: big deal there. They're thirty four front. I think I'm
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: not mistaken. I think they're thirty four front. I'll double check,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: but I think they're thirty four front.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah or no, No, I think they're four to three
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: under Campanelli.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I think I'll double check. But the thing that shocked
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: me this monterag Buster Brown. I cannot believe this because
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: he was kind of like a lot of teams didn't
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: like him. He was a seventh round pick, he wasn't developing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: The year three he started play better and then he's
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: he's got good sides at six feet in one ninety,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: got a contract extension. He actually played really well. This
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: is a good like Again. People say what they want
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: about Trent Balky. This is another guy who kind.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Of yeah, yeah he did he did so. Yeah, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: then when you.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Look at this situation here, they've got pass rushers Trayvon Walker,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Josh Heinz Allen like that you got to protect now
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: last year. And Dennis Gardak, who's sort of a movable
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: chess piece has been the league forever.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Your favorite guy.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a good story man. You know, you
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: look at him. You know this guy can't be a player.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: He is, he is so and then it's Eric Armstead
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: is still there. You know, he's still playing.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: They made that very rare D tackle trade for D
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: tackle trade with Atlanta.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: The guy. They lost that. I wonder if this is
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: going to be Ventra Miller has been a decent linebacker
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. They lost in free agency Devin Lloyd.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I forget where he signed.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: He finally showed up very well. Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, a really interesting stat was that the
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Jaguars two years ago were one of the worst defense
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: defenses in the league. Anthony Campanella took over, they did
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: not have a ton of changes. I think something like
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: nine of the elevens started from the year before were
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: starting again last year, and then they went to become
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the league. So that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: just goes to show you about your coaching point with
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: both Liam Oohen and Anthony Campanilli. They were just such
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a well coached team last year.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're thirty four front. I was right, they're thirty
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: four front. Okay, yeah. Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: In fact, here knows is that Hamilton does he kind
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: He's a good player, man, Devon Hamilton's a good player man. Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: He was a third round in twenty twenty. So this
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: is going to be interesting. Alcun is still good player
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: out of Yale. Really a remarkable story, you know, It's
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: so funny because talking agents, there's so many agents who
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: passed on him. Because when you went into Yale, you
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: talk to the code, they didn't really talk them up.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you heard Yale.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's crazy.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Going on there.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yes. So, and then at corner Buster Brown and we
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: talked about Hunter. Jordan Lewis is their Nichols. Good player there,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and you've got safety. They're okay with Antonio Johnson. Ark
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Murray's your journeyman. Look, if you could protect, it'll be
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: hard that you should have success against their corners. Yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we're gonna see Hunter is is as talented as he is.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He missed a lot of time last season. He's come
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: off with major knee surgery.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's my issue with this team is that I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: just I don't love their secondary and and overall for
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: their defense, I don't love their their depth. They've they've
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: got two legit pass rushers in Trayvon Walker and heinz Allen,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the formerly Josh Allen now Josh heinz Allen. After that,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I know, I know they brought in the ro Auroro
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: aroo guy I can't pronounce his name, Rouque Auror from Milana,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: who was I think overdrafted a little bit there by
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the falcon yet very much and not you think, no,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: he was he was definitely, I was being kind.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And it's funny the kid that he was traded for
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: they missed on that one's the same thing. He was
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Mason Smith. He was a second runner. Yeah, who teams
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: were shocked second right, Like, I know, this is what
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: it's going on with the second round these last couple
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: of years.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. But like you know, for rushing
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the past or a format, they don't have guys in
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the tank. Like do you know the Eagles will bring
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: two or three guys off the bench or other teams
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: this team if they have any kind of injuries, I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: think I could see him taking a big step back.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, this is when this is a step
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: back team overall. I would agree with you.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think. You know, they do have a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: tough Watching them last year, I thought their defensive front
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: played very tough, you know, very rugged. They're not not
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: an easy team to just kind of move the ball on.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: But you know, the Eagles had such a problem running
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the ball. If the Eagles can run the ball thirty
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: percent better this year and that's a low bar. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: if they run the ball thirty percent better than did
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: last year, and and they can do it against the Jags,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna put the Jags in some because again,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: who are the Jacks stubbing in and out from a
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: depth standpoint? Nobody. So you want to, you know, get
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: them on the field, move the ball, do a little nose,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: no huddle, which Jalen Hurts does such a great job
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of figuring out when, and I imagine that'll be still
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: part of the offense. You know, you heard. One thing
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: we didn't discuss with Sean Mannion was his the use
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of the word blend in his press conference, which was
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a little scary, but you know, we just got to see.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You just hope it's not too much blending of old
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and new, just some of the things that used to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: work well, like push push or no huddle and then
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: really everything else being his concepts. But I think no
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: huddle has always been good for the Eagles, and against
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a team like this that's just not deep you want
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: to go there.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: True because heart? Yeah, for substitution issues, Yeah sure, all right,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So that's Jacksonville. It's a it's over in London. It's
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a fairly even game. I like the Eagles odds in
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: this game to win it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I would think so too, me too. I'm I just
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: don't know where I am with Jacksonville. So to see
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: as the first four weeks go, all right, it's.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Another expansion team Panthers next week.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: How about that? And we still calling him an expansion
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: team piece?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I know, it's just kind of fun.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Listen to our podcaster.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were Our friend Bill Polian was
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: their first GM and uh what a story they were
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: so with Steve Berlin and Moose Muhammad and and the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: late great Sam Mills uh and uh late great Kevin
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Green and others. But yeah, so their offense, it's interesting
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: they're there. Their offensive line, if healthy, is not bad.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: They had a lot of iki iguana. The left tackle
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: got hurt, yep, bringing Rashid Walker's insurance if he's.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Not ready good depth signing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you know where he could start. Mora
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Freeling was the first round pick who quite frankly, he
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: might be the left tackle week one, and Guano could
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: be out of luck. I mean, remember he's a first
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: round pack he he kind of had to start m
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: HM and they they they're paying Taylor Motin a lot
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of money, so he's not going anywhere. David Lewis Dan
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Morgan has done a good job. Was with him in Seattle,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: so he knows. And Robert Hunt got big money. He's
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: been hurt a little bit. So when you look at
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: this situation, they got the potential to have a good
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: offensive line. They have some depth. This won't be easy
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to get them, but yeah, they did go through a
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: lot of injury issues. I like their receiver group. It's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: fairly deep. Ted McMillan's a studll get we set it down.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I'll say it again. He was overdrafted. You better have
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: an OC that absolutely understood how to use this player.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: He was a limited player routree. It just has not
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: worked out, save a couple of good games here and there,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and he's hasn't done it. Jalen Cocher came out of
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: nowhere at a holy Cross in twenty twenty four. Been
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: a really good story for them.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Yep, he's a Steve Smith. Steve Smith loved him coming
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: out of holy Cross.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Layer the major draft brasel who's very very talented but
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: very very raw. And John Matchie signed there. So they
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: have some depth.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So this is what I'm talking about, Adam, Like, how
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I compare them with Jacksonville. When I look at the Panthers,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I don't the first when I look at any of
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: these teams that the Eagles are going to play, The
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: first thing you and I do, just based on who
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: we are, right is we look at their lines offensive line, defensive,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: like can they can?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: They?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Are they good there?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Uh? And then the second thing. I know a lot
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of people look at quarterback at star power, but I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: always look at depth, and they make smart depth moves.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: And to your point, you know, drafting Monroe Freeling in
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the first round, signing Rashid Walker gives them depth. You know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: like they've got already starters at offensive tackle, but if
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: one gets hurt or can't play or can't you got
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: two guys. One you invested a first round pick and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the other guy who started a bunch of games for
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a good Green Bay team to get in there. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: then even at receiver, yeah, like Gat has struggled, Cocher
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: has been a nice, great fine McMillan is going to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: be an awesomer se he already is an awesome receiver. Uh.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And then they draft Brazil round three, like they signed
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Johnny Metchi. Got guys you play, you know, I mean,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I I look at this and I say, all R
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Kenny Pickets their backup. I like their depth way better
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: than I like Jacksonville's depth.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so rounding out their offense, it's the same. They're
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: gonna be. They're play plenty as well. With Tommy Trumbull,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: who's a good blocking tight end. Yep, he's got a
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: little bit better athleticisan than he's given credit for. JA
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: David Sanders isn't really done much in it's two years
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: m h. But those guys will play a lot. They'll
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: have the ability to play a lot eleven depending you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: they they could be depending what Canalis wants to do
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to Dave Canalis, the head coach of calls and plays,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: it depends on the the opponent. But their offensive line
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: with Monroe Freeling, as long as they feel he's ready,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: he'll be the left tackle. Iky Iguana got hurt very
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: late in the season, so yeah, that's pretty much gonna
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: be it for him. Motons, it's pretty set what they've got.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: They brought over Luke Fortner from the Saints center. It's
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: just from a matchup standpoint. If the Eagles want to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: play more man, they want to travel, Q could be
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: on McMillan. That's a great matchup.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I imagine he will.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, this is not a game where Coop Degene
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: needs to play a lot of safety. I wouldn't think
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: just based on the personnel groupings agree this is.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Gonna be an eleven personnel team. They should.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I would say yeah, because Sanders has not proven yet.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: He deserves to be on the field enough yet.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Right right, They're gonna they're gonna have a tight end
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like Trumble when they want to run. They're gonna have
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a tight end like Sanders when they want to spread
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: it out and pass a little more. I can't imagine.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Coker, McMillan get are gonna play.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, And you know what, Honestly, I know this
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: goes without saying, but if Bryce Young just got a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: little better and I there were times that outs it,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and there are times I could see it. It's like,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: if he can play thirty percent better. They won the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: division last year with a losing record, but could they
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: win ten to ten games if he played thirty percent better?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I think so. I think there's enough. First of all,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: we'll get to their defense. They got some really good
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: defensive players, including a former ego, And then you know, offensively,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: they have a decent enough set of weapons here to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: be able to move the ball they did last year.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: At times, they're a very strange team. You remember that
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: playoff game against the Rams, right, it looked like they
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: were out of it and then all of a sudden
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: they started scoring points. I mean, they're just they're unpredictable.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But again, if you're looking through an optimistic lens and saying, hey,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the quarterback's going to get better here in year three,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: then you can see a lot. But at the flip
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: side at him, if the quarterback regresses, that's going to
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: foil this whole operation because he needs to play better
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: for this team. Isn't that talented offensively to be able
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to withstand that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been way too inconsistent. He has shown progress,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: but he needs to be better. He has to be better.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: If Dan Morgan's made it clear that he's the future,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: so let's switch sides for here. Yeah, the problem that
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: they have now on their front though it's very talented
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Tuck Wharton Jashaun Wharton came up from Kansas City's come
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: back from a major injury neck injury. They don't have
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: an exact timeline. That's that's good Sern. He's one of
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: their starting defensive linemen. They are thirty four under Fangio
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: disciple Azureau Alviro, who's very Town's probably gonna be head
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: coach some day. He's done a really good job, like
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: their thing was for him. Their thing for him is
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: they had got in talent like they like he had
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: one bad year, but they had like nothing. So this
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: is where Devin Lloyd went. So here's the hell. Of
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: course Jalen Phillips will get to that in the second
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Dark Brown who came back from the ACL injury a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: couple years ago. Really good player. Bobby Brown's their nose
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: came over from the Rams. Wharton who's a stand up player.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And Nicol your playman's side, but he's They don't have
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: exact time on Lee Hunter. We talked about the draft process.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Who's who probably want to starting as were pushing for
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: time as their nose. S Gordon did a good job
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: their second rounder. I like a really good job last
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: year like him. Jalen Phillips of course, who fits in well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Uh he fits in well in this front. It made
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: sense from a schematic standpoint because he's played in it. Yep,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: his entire career pretty much. Devin Lloyd came out of
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: nowhere after being a major, major disappointment, played his ass
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: off last year, got a great contract. Good for him.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So this is a talented front here. They went through
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a bunch of inside backers due to injury last season.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's Lloyd, probably trevoron Wallace and also you know,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: it's not a bad day. You know, it's not a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: bad backup Patrick Jones who came over from the Whitings
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So yet, not great depth at edge, but they'll have enough.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: They'll have enough.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at it, you could see
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: why they pulled up thirty million dollars for Phillips because
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: they just don't have a real a plus pass rusher.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: You know, they drafted s Gordon. I thought Sorton looked
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: good at times last year for a rookie. That was
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a good second round pick. Dirk Brown we know as
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: a stud interior alignment and can give you that interior purse.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: But they really needed a little bit more. So you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: get you go get Jalen Phillips, gives you kind of
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like three guys that you could fear in the pass
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: rush between Phillips Scouting and Gorton and Brown and maybe
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: somebody else, like you said, maybe a Patrick Jones becomes
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: a nice little extra rusher. I don't know. Uh. The
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: curious curiosity I have is on Devin Lloyd, who sort
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of underperformed for a little bit in Jacksonville. Yeah, he
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: very much on the board. He was benched, wasn't he
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: At one point.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: He was so bad and to the point where like
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: never gonna cut him. But Doubleblady is gonna make it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: And it's almost like a Jordan Davis kind of rise. Yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and like it kind of came out of nowhere. Now
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Davis the year before at least showed something late, right,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: and they played great and got extension. So uh, there
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: they have two pass rushers. It's real simple. And and Derek,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I mean Derek Brown is for a defensive tackle, he's
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: a good pass rusher. But they're two key guys or
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: scorting Phillips. Yeah, Phillips, Now could he do it for
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: a full season? Now they know him obviously, the Eagles
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: offensive line pass block wise is not a problem last season.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: The run block of satrocias Uh, They've got they'll have
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: a pretty good front between both Browns, Derek and Bobby.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And let's assume for now that Lee Hunter, second round
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: pick starts. That's a that's a pretty good front, yep.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And you know, you get you get past those guys.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Phillips's plays to run well, He's got great length, so
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: this won't be easy to run against.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, it won't. I just don't love their depth,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you know. I like what they have in their starting
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: eleven on defense. You know in the secondary we we
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: of course, Jase Horn's a really good corner. Uh, Trevon Morriggs. Okay,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Nick Scott. I mean they're okay at safety. When you
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: have Horn and you've got Derek Brown, and you've got
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, and if you get Devin Lloyd playing at
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the level he played last year, you've got star power
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: in your in your top eleven. But there's nothing in
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: their their backups. You know, I know Greg Cosel like
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Ezeki Weeley, but fifth round pick out of Penn State safety,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I just don't love them from a depth standpoint. And
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: now we're talking about a game where this is a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: week seven game. You're gonna or no, I'm sorry, week
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: six game, You're gonna be on some depth at that point.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, So Mike Jackson came over. Another guy that Dan
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Morgan wanted came over from Seattle. Actually Scott Fitterer's actually
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: it was it was Dan Morgan who got Mike Jackson.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: It's okay, yeah that that other corner. May Rigg is
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: a good player. May Rigg is actually a good player,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: but next to Nick, Scott's a journeyman. Yeah, they got
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to be better. There. There's some holes. Yeah, there's some
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: holes like Jasey Horn's elite. But Mike Jackson, you could
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you could throw against them. There's some matchups you can
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: get here. They played it, they played there. There, They're
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: they're a pretty balanced team now running wise, because Chuba
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: hubb remember Chuba Hubbard now is back being the starter.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: And who knows about Jonathan Brooks coming back from his
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: major injury. Yeah, another major knee injury, which unfortunately, remember
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: he got hurt against the Eagles a couple of years ago. Yep,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Dylan's there, Trevor Ethen, Travis's brother is there. They're gonna
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be a low scoring team. The mcmillin's are playmaker,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: so they'll play to their run game in their defense. Yep,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: CHUPA Hubbards had been a nice story. Another guy kind
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere, didn't contribute for two years,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: and then he had a great year and got paid.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Right to me, this is a so this is a
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: sort of a white knuckler game, which means it's a
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: close to you know, it's low score scoring game, physical, tough,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you just hope to win. Seventeen thirteen, you know something
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's why that Rams game they lost thirty
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: four to thirty one in the playoffs. I'm like, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: can't believe this team scored thirty one points in the playoffs.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: They had a lot of games last year. They had
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a weird game three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: ten games last year where they scored less than twenty
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: points and thirteen where they scored less than twenty seven.
• 38:00
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• 39:39
  Speaker 1: can sit here and analyze it. Sometimes the analysis doesn't
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: matter because when those two well more's with Commanders, but.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: They have Colboys.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Cowboys know how to beat the Eagles. They absolutely do,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: because they seem to do it at least once a year.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Well, they've got a tough schedule. Really now, okay, they're
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: at the Giants, could be challenging Week one, they host
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: of Commandos would know they're going to be better. Host
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Baltimore at Houston, hosts the Bucks at Green Bay, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: then they're at the Eagles. So they play on a
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Thursday night. Then they play the following weeks so they'll
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: have some rest. They'll play at the Eagles only twenty
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: six of October. So if I'm not mistaken off the
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: double check, but I know, well, they're one of the few,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: if not the only, team that's bring back all eleven
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: starters on offense. It's really hard to do.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is in this day and age and almost impossible.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Pickens lamb a receiver, the mercurial. You never know what
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you're getting from to his Pickens, he's maddening. He's so gifted,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't always bring it the intensity and sometimes
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: takes plays or games off. Yp's why he's not getting
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: extension now. Steve's still there at right tackle, Guidan's there
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: at left tackle. Who's he's probably better at right tackle,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: but they're not doing it. Tyler Smith has been great,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: bb is their shatter, and Booker's back. They're all back,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Ferguson's they're starting tout end screwmakers. The why hm Dak
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: of course, and Javante One's was a great story development.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Now you know how you've talked about depth. Yes, like
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Jayden Blue could not get on the field. They coached
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: trust Hi last season.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That's true, Which doesn't you know, knowing what we knew
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: about him coming out of Texas where he wasn't even
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: a number one guy there, Yeah, that's yeah, maturity issues,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. But I will say he can
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: be a big X factor. I mean if he explosive, man,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: if he makes a year two leap starts to figure
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: some things out and they can get him on the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: field in the pass catching role. He is so explosive.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So then and they've got the offensive line and the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: surrounding weaponry you have to worry about to make it
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: like where he can sneaky be catch a few passes
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and turn a game.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: So they're the Eagles, though their edges match up well
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: against Dallas tackles.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, I swear if you had have told me three
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: years ago at and the Turn that they were still
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: going to have Turn Steel at right tackle, I would
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: have been like, get out of here, you know, because
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: he's kind of had his ups and downs. Yeah he's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: still there.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he took a pay cut, Yeah, he got his
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: contract were done.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: They did Drew Shelton.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Drew Shelton, who I know, Greg didn't like him at all. Yeah,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Greg didn't like that at Austraaria in the.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Very up and down career Penn State.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So to me, you got to win by
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: beating their tackles. If Jayden Blue is not a factor
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: in that by the time the Eagles play them, joont
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Wim has been a great story. He's not even close
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: to the player was before his multi ligament knee injury.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Give a guy credit. He's money around the goal line.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: He's with fantastic for fancy, especially right. But their matchups,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: to me, the matchups are real simple. Tyler Guitton is
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: not a great left tackle. He's just not Fergus Ex's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Meat Steele is an okay right tackle. They're another team
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: that could play a lot Like I know, Ron Schoenhammer
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: is a more of a eleven personnel guy than twelve.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He's completely changed from what he would with the Jets,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: kind of flipped it. He was the one who came up,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: by the way, with let Russ Cook. That was his
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: idea to be aggressive throwing in the first half. He's
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: big in analytics, yep, I was told. So now the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: question is how will they approach it this game? Well,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: you've got Lamb and Pickens, uh Cavante Turpin more or
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: less is going to be the three boy That trade
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: for Jonathan Mino, what a terrible trade. They get a
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: fourth front pick from the guy doesn't even play. Yeah,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and MVS is there but Ryan Flanoy he also plays
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: some of the in three receiver sets.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: He's pretty decent. By the way, didn't you give the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Eagles a little bit of trouble in that.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Second game last year, he made a player or two.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's the one out of Missouri state. I
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: think it was or something small, real small, but.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, southeast Missouri state. Yeah yeah, so overall to me,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you know what Lamb is, He's usually has great hands.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: He said he had a melt one melt out actually
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the the one game against Eagles, he just started dropping
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: past us like crazy. You remember, No, but usually it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: very good hands. Yeah, he's an open yep, I get
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: in picking sad man. He's he's a very interesting player.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: You just don't know what you're getting. Weak to week,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: very very very mysterious. Why he just drifts? You know,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the Steelers had enough and they didn't want them. They
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: got what they could for him getting the sick round pick.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: But so so before we move on to the flip
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the script here, they know them very well because they're
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: bringing back all their starters.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: What would worry me for the Eagles is if they
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: could protect Okay, if they could protect see you could
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: get like you can because Vic play a little bit
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: more man than he typically does. Still not a heavy
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: man team, they're still you know, win More's own. But
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: do you travel you know who who do you have Q?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: If you're going to play sides, that's one thing. If
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you're going to travel, who do you haven't travel against?
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I would actually have him travel against Lamb? I think,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: because I would Pickens is a really good receiver. But
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: if you put a Woolen on him, you know he's
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: not gonna kill you with all these razors shark cucks.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: He's gonna kill you with these contested catches. He's deep overs.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I think that that's the area where I can see
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: wool And holding his own. I mean, yeah, he's gonna
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: give up a few. But you know, last year it
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: was weird because last year there were times they got
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: a Dory Jackson matched up against Ceedee Lamb, and you
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: know they just got lucky that Lamb dropped a few.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Vick wants to see a similar
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: situation where Lamb is matched up against the second best corner.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I think you'd want Mitchell iam as much as possible.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yep, I would agree with you so And plus Wolan's
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: got elite length. Yea, Hickens is tall. I mean that
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. I agree, Yeah, you won't size there. So,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: so that's that's uh, that's an interesting one. It's gonna
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: be don't Dak has had some incredible games against the Eagles.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: But also you have to always look at the personnel
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: egles hat we're putting out. Then that's part of it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: But now I want to count the former Eagles here
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: on the currently on the Cowboys.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: You got Sam Sam, Matt Hennessee, got Paris Campbell. Is
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: he still there? Yeah? He is Paris Campbell. That's amazing,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Matt Hennessee. Drew Keegan, who's claimed off waivers?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Trevor Keagan, right, yeah, you have to they
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: have anyone? What's that?
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Do you have anyone? Defensively?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't even check that yet. I wanted to just
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: point out one interesting signing the Cowboys made. This guy
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: we thought was going to get drafted. He's got, I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: think again maturity issues that we heard about. But Michael Trigg,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: he's he's deep on the depth chart. But don't forget
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that name, because all it takes is yet like coming
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: on and making a few plays and and he could be,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you know, participating in some part in the offense.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And he's juice a tight end. Yes, yes, that's that's
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: that's the Eagles defense versus the Eagles. The Cowboys offense again,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: they're bringing back all their starters, so they kind of
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: know what they're getting right now.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I'll look at this remade Cowboys defense, which has you know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it's now a three four with Christian Parker, it's gonna
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: be a Fangio clone defense. You know, they traded away
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and Odiggyzua, who is a good three technique for them
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: because they're there's morphing their their defensive front to a
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: three four style, so they'll have the overhang players. You know,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: They've got Rashaan Garry who they brought in. What's the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: deal with Ezraku? He's come up a surgery right hip Labram.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: That's a bad surgery man. Yeah, that's the questions about
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: one will be ready. Malachai Lawrence, who is very talented,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: but a little bit row on neth further refinement. Some
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: teams thought he was reached. I know some teams had
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: a second a low second round, great high third on him.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: M Rashan garregu Mention came over in the trade. James Houston,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: who's been interesting. He's had a lot of injury. Formerly
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: of Detroit and Cleveland, and Sam Williams was another guy,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: excuse me, who had major off the field concerns football
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: character stuff. He's also been suspended before, right.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: So.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: He's good. He's kind of got his act together. Man,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: He's he's been good.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I look at it. I like, I think
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that there's some good players here on the Stallas front. Obviously,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I have Quentin Williams. He's one of the best three
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: techniques in the league or wherever they're going to play
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: him in this front. You know, Gary, Gary is not
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the player he was a few years ago, but he's
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: not necessarily Josh Uche either where you're just not getting
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: anything out of him. You're just not getting enough.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: He's got great size for this scheme because he because
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: he played in a thirty four part of his career
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: with the Packers. He also played a forty three there,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: so he's got really good size to play in this front.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: They have enough pass rushers. It's just a matter of
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: who's going to be healthy. Overshown has got completely healthy
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: for the first time in his career.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: They're really but I'm looking forward to seeing what Parker
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: does with him. Adam Overstown because he's small, but he's
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: also lightning quick athletic. I wonder if if Christian fuels
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: that Overshown can be like a Nakobe Dean type player
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: as far as a blitzer on a sim pressure you know,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: someone who's sneaky gets through the middle where you line
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: them up and you break down a protection scheme and
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: get try to get a free rusher to the quarterback
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: with him.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I agree. But they're like they they're so
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: bad at linebacker. They traded for de Winters, who's also
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: not a big not like a like a big guy, right,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: So that that to me is second level of their defense.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: If you can get through the first one, you should
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: have some you should be able to run against them.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they're banking obviously on Bland coming back
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: strongly that maybe Shavan Revel will be you know, two
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: years remove from the injury now we'll be ready to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: assume a starting job. They signed Kobe Durant from Rams.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: He's just an okay, honestly, they're not very good at corner.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I know Devin Moore Greg liked who's got great Land
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: out of Florida. HM. The questions about how well he
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: runs Arron Bland's better officer, Nickel, he's really not good
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: at corner. They got Caleb Downs, stud player. We'll see
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: how they use them. Jalen Thompson who they signed as
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: a free agent, and uh pj locks there because you
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: know this game we played for Vic and Denver right,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: and then Malie Hooker is there. So they they're great
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: at safety. We're not great. Good. They're good at safety. Yeah,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: they're not very good at corner. You want to go
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: after these corners now, I would worry about it. Caleb
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Carson's still there, who was drafted a couple of years ago. Yeah,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: you really don't know about You really don't know about
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: the kid you were talking about from East Carolina came
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: back from the a CL rebel, Yeah, Revel Jr. You
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: just don't know. I mean, had he not tourn his
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: a CL I mean could it was? He was looking
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: at a potential first round pick. So we'll see how
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: well he plays. There'll be some matchups. They're super small
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: and inside backer. You like that. And yeah, you got
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Kenny with Williams, Kenny Clark, Johnthan Buller's journeyman. They drafted
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the kid Overton from Alabama. Yeah, a small new tackle.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Uh there's with Christian Parker. Like it's a new scheme.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: The techniques are different.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Mh.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: They got a new staff on defense. It's going to
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: take them some time to get it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: The good thing is it's not like they're that Syriann
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: hasn't gone against this offense. Are going against it in
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: practice right, So it's it's fascinating. It's I like the
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Eagles matchups, to be honest with you, I like, I
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: feel like.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: They should have They should run the ball. They need
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: to run the ball well against this Dallas defensive and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: we'll be light at linebacker. But because I do think
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: even without Ezraku, even if he slowed a little bit,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: they've always had decent edge draw. I mean, Houston has
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: been fine, James Houston for them. Sam Williams was injured.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: He can give you a little juice off the edge.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Gary can give you a juice off the edge. If
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are struggling offensively and they're on too many
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: like second and third and lungs, and let's say mal
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Ky Lawrence, their first round pick, is doing what he's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: supposed to do, they can come at you with some guys.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Think this Dallas defensive front has improved from a personnel
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: standpoint because they've added so many guys. They've added like
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: nine or ten guys. The question is do they gel
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: they mature, some of their draft picks live up to
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: what they're supposed to be.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, fun game first, this is their first game against
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Dallas in this season. Yep, Philly on paper, if you
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: just look at the matchups with Smitty Mkay Lammon, Eagles
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: is gonna play plenty of eleven personnel with Wix and
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown, They'll be able to make plays. Eagles are
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: gonna have speed, the possession receivers. They finally have a
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: slot receiver for a true slot for the first time.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long might be a vine, I'm joking.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: What it's been a bit man, So yeah, since Agalre
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl year.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: That would be it. When they moved when they moved
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Nelly inside. So yeah, that that's a long time ago.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that that's it for sure.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: All Right, we gain the next opponents and Commanders, we've
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: already done that matchup, so we go straight to Week
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: nine where it will be the Giants at the Eagles
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: one o'clock game Fox. And I'm not sure of all
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the teams we've spoken about so far, I'm not sure
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: there's any team that's going to have an identity and
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a look wholesale more differently than the Giants Will. I mean,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I think you might not even almost recognize how they
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: play football compared to how they've been playing football in
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the past.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, and you and I were talking about
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: this last week. This is a team that could play
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: a ton of eleven, that could also play a ton
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: of twelve. Why do I say that Malik Nahbers coming
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: back from the ACL but Darus Slant could run. He
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: goes know them very well. Calvin Austin is a backup slot.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: They love Malchai fields from one end, Stan who has
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: a chance to be their ex receiver, Darnell Mooney could run.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Hodgins is back. Yet another isay Hodgens won't go away
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Jale and I that they missed on him. He's just
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: he's just too finesse. But then you go to tight end.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Likely THEO Johnson manhurts is their why mm hmm. It
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: could be a balance eleven twelve if they could do
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: whatever they want, really can Yep.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: This is a team I look at and I'm like, oh, okay,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: so they have some depth. They have some guys who
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: can play, yeah, can come off the end. And obviously
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: they're gonna make use of Ricard the fullback who was
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: with Harball in Baltimore all those years. The big question
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: is to Scataboo comeback healthy. Can he and Tyrone Tracy
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: kind of double team in that run game. But Jackson
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Dart is going to help make that run game go.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: And then obviously their challenge Giants is getting him to
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: play fast and make move you know, move the chains
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: with his legs, but not recklessly. That was obviously an
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: issue for them last year.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: He was He's very inconsistent. You know, he did have
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: a couple of minor injuries. But now here's the thing
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Eagles defensive front versus the Giants offensive line. The off
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: injury but massively talented Andrew Thompson left tackle. Luminers are right.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: It's been a good story and not a great player,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: but I'll give the guy credit. He got paid. He's
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: a decent player. Yes, malanoa who's going to be most
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: likely the right guard Michael Schmidt and running her back
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: if they could ever keep these guys together on the field,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: they might have something there.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I can't believe I'm actually gonna say this. Okay,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I like the Giants offensive line. First of all, it's big, Yes,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it's big. I mean, Illumina is a good right tackle,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: like you said, he earned it. Malinoa was a tackle
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: at Miami. They're movie with the right guard. I had
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: a couple of personnel people who didn't think that that
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: was going to happen. But I'm saying before the draft,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: tell me if any team moved this guy to guard,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: they thought he could be an all pro there. So bam,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: that's what the Giants are gonna do. Schmidt's is I
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: don't love him, but he's like four hundred pounds. The
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: guy's enormous Runyon we know is experiences, good player. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas. I mean, they've got they got bod Man.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: This this offensive line has come so far in two
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: or three years, Like this is a you saw it
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: last year, Adam. They established the run against the Eagles
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: in that first game and kept pounding away. This offensive
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: line is not bad.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: They have some death Lucas Patrick, you know, yeah, Aaron
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Stanney who was a Super Bowl winner with the Bucks.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Yep for Lele who came over from with Harbes from Baltimore,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Evan Neil. What a terrible pick that was that that
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: he was. It was interesting I remember that draft hearing
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: about him because you know he went to Bama, so
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: everyone's sick and he's great, and the word in personal
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: circles like, no, he wasn't great. He's not going to
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: be a left tackle, you know, on good playment right,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and he had a confidence of technique issue and it
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: came up. They missed on that one. Yeah, they missed
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: on that one. So yeah, it's if they're healthy and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: playing well, the Eagles will have challenges. They could spread
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: the Eagles out, They could play as we said to
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: move this along. Here have we twelve or up. And
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the one issue they have is they didn't add anyone.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Scataboo is coming off with bad injury. Tracy's their change up.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Devin similar Tray doesn't run very well. He's just there.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: He can handle their down. He's a good teammate. Coaches
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: love him. I don't worry about their run game. I
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: know the Eagles were terrible when they played it the Giants.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: They could they couldn't block you. Yeah, you know, they
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: couldn't get through blocks. They the Johnts ran all over him.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: But overall, I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about the run game.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Just don't throw you on that uh naggy. That's their
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinating, right, Yeah, I worry about We'll see. I
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about it if I thought it was gonna
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: be a basic run the ball to gut type run.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: But be some Chiefs creativity. There'll be some horm Ball
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Baltimore run game creativity. There'll be multiple tight ends. I
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: think they'll be able to manufacture pretty good rushing yards
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: behind just the size of their own line and the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: fact that they got too pretty decent, too big run.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: They're not great running backs, but Scataboy and Tracy have
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: different qualities. And we know Scataboy runs when he healthy, right,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: he runs like he's you know, carrying a bowling ball
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: through people. So I would be a little bit leary
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: of it, only because I think it's going to be
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: their identity, Adam. I mean, I think that they're going to.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Be well honestly, because they have so much talent receiver.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: When I say Okay, let me let me rephrase it.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: They have enough talent receiver. We don't know how Neighbors
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: is cutting back from the ac ellandry, but Slight could
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: always run Mooney can Ronnie's better off inside. Calvin Austin
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: did decently late in his career with the Steelers.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Right, Let'll see.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: About Malcott Fields, who's a very tough, physical X receiver.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: There's enough talent there to spread the Eagles out. Yeah,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: it's depending on well. I'm interested to see what how
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: they approach us, you know, I'm really interesting to see
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: how they do this. Well.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I'm also from an Eagle standpoint. I'm looking to see
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: if they're an inconsistent run defense again or if they're better.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, they had issues last year, not just against
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the Giants, we saw against the Bears, or saw against
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: other teams where they would be loose against the run.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of shape Jalen Carter's shoulders
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: are going to be in. He didn't have a surgery.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Gee Hot Campbell, we have to see Jodh Wow his
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: shoulders are. And again we've talked about the move from
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: n Kobe to him, and you get a little bit
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: less experience going downhill in the run game, whereas Campbell
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: is a clearly better athlete you can cover, can be rangy,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: can he get downhill well enough? So it's nothing I
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: think that Eagles are gonna get completely run on. I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: just have some concerns about their overall run defense going
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: into the So we'll see.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll see. I would not be over the concern.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of how they play, not so
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: much how doubt the Giants play. They have to play
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: more sound run defense that I agree with. And you know,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Grenard can play the run. He's had times he's done
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: very well against the run. Yeah, he's not the biggest
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: guy in the world, but Phillips is bigger physically, right,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: bigger frame.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the guy you guys played for a really
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: good I mean he played for Houston when they have
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: a really really good defense, and when his healthy year
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota they were a good defensively. So yeah, I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: have no issue with that.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: All right, let's flip the script here, last part here.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: So defense, Yeah, Giants defense, They're gonna run a thirty
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: four under Gernard Wilson. That's a scheme. He's got some
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: fan Joe in his background. M hm, he's got a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: mixture of defensive mentors. But they they they after that,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: they traded Dexter Lawrence. They were they had like nothing
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: on the d line, so they brought in DJ Reader,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Ray Robertson Harris's back. Lucky Photo has been around a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: little bit. Uh the Shelby Harris who came out from Cleveland.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: So now they have players. They've got beef up front.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Darius Alexander was the third rounder last year. He's an
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: older player. Uh At, he's actually I think he's going
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: to turn twenty six or twenty seven.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: He was older when they drafted him. So they'll be
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: okay there they're playing. By the way, they've made a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Claire Reese's a linebacker, not an edge rusher. Right, Yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: it's it's They've got the three Carle Eagles know this.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Carter came on after a terrible start, came on, Thibodeau
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: and Burns. Good rotation from the three A train Tremaine Admins,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: who had a bad year. Greco Sel pointed out of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: his tape study, we're kind of dumbfounded what they were thinking,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: like lukart k and bringing a guy to him play
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: well and they're not paying they're paying a decent coin.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look up his contracts if I have it.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that floored me. I know. I do say Hardball's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: had a good history of being able to get some
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: linebackers who looked like they were on the down side
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: or not doing well, linebackers and safeties and then they
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: come and play for him. Rokwon, they've been able to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: you know, Roquon's one, but there are a couple others
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: that I remember that he was able to kind of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: help out. I think sometimes when you're in a better
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: environment with better players around you. But the Giants have
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: yet to prove that they're that kind of defense. But
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: we'll see.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: This is crazy real quick. He got Tremaine Edmund's got
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: a three year deal worth twelve million a year. They
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: guaranteed the first two years. Wow, for two years, twenty
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: five point five million over two that includes some per
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: game roster bonuses. That's ridiculous. Yeah, tape doesn't reflect that.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I don't Joe Shane just got a track extension. Okay,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: we'll see how well that works out.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we will. We'll see. Now, do they have some
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: depth in the front seven. Yes, you know they've got
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Darius Alexander. Well, actually they just lost a player by
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the way in uh to an a c L in
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: practice it was the guy with the hyphenated last name.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Why can't I think about roberts Roy Robertson Harris, Doy
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Robertson Harris get hurt. Yes, he got hurt, so he's
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I think it was an acl or an achilles. It
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: might have been the achilles actually, so he's definitely out
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: for the year. So now Alexander is gonna have to play. Yeah,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: an even more problem. But they drafted the third round.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: The kid was a good, good prospect, you know, well
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: just older.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, so it's going to be Reader Harris with Roy
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Robertson Harris out with the torn Achilles. That you've got
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Reader Harris and Alexander Lucky photo. Like I said, he's
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  Speaker 2: been around. It's all lost, right, Roy Robinson Harris is
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  Speaker 2: there because he as a run stopper, that's concerning yep.
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  Speaker 1: And then McFadden has played a lot of has.
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  Speaker 2: Been a start he won anymore, but he he Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Daris Masseau is there, who's started some games. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: depth is Okay, Yeah, the issue for them is going
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  Speaker 2: to be a corner, right Pulson and deebo in a
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  Speaker 2: second year with the Giants. Nice player, nice corner. Greg
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  Speaker 2: Knews him on the let he signed a one year deal.
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  Speaker 2: You could play nickel, he could play corner. Drew Phillips
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  Speaker 2: will be their nickel. Their depth isn't great. Deontay Banks
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  Speaker 2: other than kickoff returns has been a big disappointment. Now,
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  Speaker 2: that's why they drafted Colton Hood. They knew that they
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  Speaker 2: have to They had a dress corner. They did in
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  Speaker 2: the second round. Eventually he'll start, You probably will start
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  Speaker 2: in near two.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Again depth. They brought Washington in because he's played
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  Speaker 1: for them in Baltimore. Yeah, it's not the greatest talent,
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  Speaker 1: but they've got guys who played there. There were times
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  Speaker 1: when you're playing the Giants they would have a couple
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  Speaker 1: of injuries and then they are literally bringing guys off
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  Speaker 1: the bench that you've never heard of. They were like
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  Speaker 1: rookie free age and signings and this this is a
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  Speaker 1: better Giants defense, and we really haven't gotten to Well.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I look at the secondary and I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: do agree with you that there while there's a question mark.
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  Speaker 1: I tend to lean it toward the arrow to me
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  Speaker 1: is going more up than down. With their secondary. I've
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  Speaker 1: always liked Nuban. I think it's a good safety. Holland
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  Speaker 1: played well with Dolphins. I think that the culture was
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  Speaker 1: an issue there. And if you can get these guys
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  Speaker 1: to you know, now you've got banks out of the
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  Speaker 1: situation and you've got some maybe adults in the room
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  Speaker 1: in the secondary. Newsom Drew Phillips, I like is a nickel.
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  Speaker 1: I just think the arrow is more to me going
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  Speaker 1: up than it is down. And then we'll see if
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  Speaker 1: Colton Hood can get in there as a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: And do something.
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  Speaker 1: But Adam their pass rush. I mean, I know we've
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  Speaker 1: been saying it for years, but I can't believe that
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  Speaker 1: this will be the year that they don't have a
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  Speaker 1: pass rush with what they've got to throw at the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Because Burns is always good. The issue Kfim Thibodeau, as
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  Speaker 2: we pointed out years ago, NFL body not explosive. Little
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  Speaker 2: Steff like he runs well on a straight line. If
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  Speaker 2: you look at the athletic test and go, well, it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty good. But if the tape tells you otherwise, This
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  Speaker 2: is why tape is the number one evaluation of players.
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  Speaker 2: And you add the numbers, the data, R E s scoring,
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  Speaker 2: it's not it's kind of it's it conflicts a little
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  Speaker 2: bit mm hmm. But yeah, he has not been what
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  Speaker 2: they thought. He's open, okay, But what you're looking for
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: is Carter to build on the way you played late
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  Speaker 2: in the season after a very rough start, and see
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  Speaker 2: if he can do it. They'll they'll give team fits
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles again past block and watch. It's not a problem. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's just no, not problem, just but I do you
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  Speaker 1: know the Giants can get creative here. They can put again. R. L.
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  Speaker 1: Reese is not gonna be an edge rusher, but he
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  Speaker 1: can be a pass rusher on sim pressures. And I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: have a meaningless stat that I'm going to read to you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that this is I don't know what it means,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what getoff time is right, the time
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  Speaker 1: to cross a pass push all right? Miles Garrett last
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  Speaker 1: year a two point eight two get off very good
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  Speaker 1: Burns three point oh five, Will Anderson two point seven
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  Speaker 1: to two. Jalen Phillips for the Eagles two point nine
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  Speaker 1: to one. Micah Parsons two point seven eight, Nick Benito
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  Speaker 1: two point five to nine. Those are some of the
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  Speaker 1: better get off time for a pass rushers. Abdul Carter's
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  Speaker 1: was two point three to nine. You're talking about a
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  Speaker 1: full second and almost a half a second more than
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  Speaker 1: some of those guys I just listed.
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  Speaker 2: He did early on. It was kind of surprising. He
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  Speaker 2: just like, he's a rookie, so you have to give
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  Speaker 2: him time.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then what one like there were a couple of
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. Wow, the light's going on and now you're
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: if you're a Giants fan, you're loving this. You're like, Okay,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: you can't wait to see your two.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can unlock him. Man, I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: I agree that this is gonna be a tough matchup.
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  Speaker 2: This will not this This could be another low scoring game.
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  Speaker 2: So we expect the Eagles to have a good defense.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Matt Naggies to play color. Denardan Wilson is a decoordinator
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: to people with Eagles size, obviously because they coach there. Yeah,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: you know they're could better because then be coach better
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: and they'll be way more disciplined.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. That'll be a fun one. The division. As
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: we have said for a while, we expect the division
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  Speaker 1: to be much more competitive, much tougher this year. Could
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: be wrong, we'll see. Injuries could certainly help or threaten that,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: but I do think the NFC East is going to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: be a lot better. And by wrapping up that Giants game,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: we have now done Commanders, Cowboys, Giants. So as we
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: get into Part three next and part four, we'll be
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: doing non division teams. That is going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: That is our wrap of part two of analyzing the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Eagles in their schedule. We'll get you part three pretty soon.
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