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- 0:00Ocean conservation is a multi-billion dollar global effort.
- 0:03So why do so many marine scientists and nonprofits constantly feel
- 0:07like they're running out of money?
- 0:10This is the How to Protect the Ocean, your weekday ocean news update.
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- 0:20This week, we're gonna be talking about nonprofits.
- 0:23We're gonna be talking about how to generate revenue.
- 0:26We're gonna be talking about some of the problems that we've
- 0:27identified from nonprofits.
- 0:29And on Friday, I've got an interview with James Meissner, who is a nonprofit
- 0:32consultant that will give people like yourselves who have nonprofits
- 0:36some way of coping and some way of building that revenue so that you
- 0:40can actually run a proper nonprofit.
- 0:42So we're gonna talk about that all today, 'cause people often assume
- 0:45that if an ocean issue is important enough, someone is gonna fund it.
- 0:48That's really what it comes down to.
- 0:50And unfortunately, that's not always the case because that's
- 0:52not really how conservation works.
- 0:54In reality, many ocean conservation organizations are operating on
- 0:58a year-to-year, grant-to-grant, or donation-donation basis.
- 1:02Even some of the most important marine conservation projects in the world
- 1:05struggle to maintain long-term funding.
- 1:08And that creates a major question.
- 1:10If we already know so much about protecting the ocean, why
- 1:13does ocean conservation still feel financially unstable?
- 1:17Marine conservation in general just sounds massive, and to be honest, it is.
- 1:21But according to multiple international reports, ocean
- 1:24protection receives a small fraction of global environmental funding.
- 1:27I've seen that for all of my career.
- 1:29I've worked on projects where there's been a huge funder whether it be in
- 1:33the industrial region, like oil and gas or things like that, and they are
- 1:36watching every nickel and dime that they are spending on their project
- 1:40because they don't want to spend a lot on environmental projects because they
- 1:43realize that if they spend a lot and they do a thorough job, that thorough
- 1:46jobs may say, "Hey, you know what?
- 1:48You shouldn't be doing what you're doing here from an industrial
- 1:50standpoint." And so we start to see just taking away the money and trying
- 1:54to spend a little as much possible in environmental funding because
- 1:57they don't wanna get involved in it.
- 1:59Many marine protected areas exist mostly on paper because there isn't
- 2:02enough money for enforcement, staffing, research or monitoring, which we covered
- 2:06in the week that we talked about marine conservation and marine protected areas.
- 2:10So science may identify critical habitats, governments may announce protected
- 2:14areas, but without long-term investment, protection often becomes symbolic, and
- 2:18funding is incredibly competitive.
- 2:20Thousands of nonprofits, universities, indigenous groups,
- 2:23and conservation organizations are applying for the same grants.
- 2:26So the competition has increased, and the funding hasn't necessarily
- 2:30increased in the way that the amount of competition has increased.
- 2:33That means organizations spend huge amounts of time trying
- 2:36to secure funding instead of directly protecting ecosystems.
- 2:40I can't tell you the number of people that are scientists who have started
- 2:43organizations, have done a really good job at maintaining these organizations
- 2:46for a long time, but they can't do the science that they wanna do or
- 2:49the conservation that they wanna do because they're always on proposals.
- 2:52It is one of the big headaches of nonprofit management.
- 2:55Some researchers spend months writing proposals with no guarantee of success.
- 3:00I know some organizations have shut down because they didn't get the
- 3:03grants that they were supposed to get and that's a tough pill to swallow.
- 3:06Others rely on short-term contracts tied to political priorities that
- 3:09can disappear after elections.
- 3:11I wonder where we saw that before.
- 3:13And this instability affects everything.
- 3:16Research timelines, staff retention, community programs, long-term
- 3:21planning, even public outreach.
- 3:24There's another layer to this.
- 3:25Funding increasingly follows visibility.
- 3:29Organizations that communicate clearly often have a better chance of
- 3:32attracting donors and partnerships.
- 3:35I've watched organizations have a really good and really great presence
- 3:39on social media, a really good backing and showing all the stuff that
- 3:43they're doing, and sometimes I'm like, "I wonder why they're doing that."
- 3:44It just kinda shows off that they have all this grant management or
- 3:47they have all this money they're getting from foundations because
- 3:50they can show off what they're doing.
- 3:51And sometimes you're like, "How are they doing this?" Like, how are
- 3:53they getting all this stuff done?
- 3:55Their presence on social media, their presence in their communication
- 3:58aspect shows what they're able to do, which brings eyes to the
- 4:01organizations, which brings, "Hey, this person is doing really well."
- 4:05As an example.
- 4:06I've been podcasting for 11 years.
- 4:08You've probably heard me say that a lot of times on this podcast if you've
- 4:10been listening any time recently.
- 4:12But since I've been doing that, I haven't necessarily posted on
- 4:16social media on a consistent basis until, like, the last year or so.
- 4:19And when I started to do that, I started to post on LinkedIn, like clips from
- 4:22my episodes, and on TikTok and on Instagram, then people are like, "Wow,
- 4:26you're really working hard. You're really doing a lot in podcasting." And I'm
- 4:29like, " I've been doing this for 11 years.
- 4:31I've been doing this for many times, as many years that
- 4:34I've been doing this, really.
- 4:35I've been doing it for so long." And they're just like, "I just noticed
- 4:38you do it now 'cause it starts coming up on my feed, and I really like
- 4:41what you're saying." But they won't necessarily listen to the podcast.
- 4:44It doesn't increase downloads to my podcast or doesn't necessarily grow
- 4:47the show, but it shows that I'm actually doing work, and I'm getting
- 4:50more eyes on the stuff that I'm doing.
- 4:52Doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna grow the show, but it does help in
- 4:55making that appearance of like, "Hey, you're actually working really hard on
- 4:58this. People come up to me and they're like, " Well, you've been doing so much
- 5:01work. Like, how much time do you spend?"
- 5:02And I start talking about my workflow and how much I do, and they're
- 5:04like, "Wow, I can't believe you're actually able to do this." But it
- 5:08means that storytelling is becoming part of conservation infrastructure.
- 5:12And this is why you see how ocean organizations investing heavily
- 5:15in social media, documentaries, podcasts, YouTube videos, newsletters,
- 5:20and influencer partnerships, not because communication is trendy,
- 5:24but because the attention drives support, and support drives survival.
- 5:29A scientific paper may contain critical findings, but if the
- 5:32public never hears about it, it becomes much harder to generate
- 5:36political pressure or donor interest.
- 5:38I'm not saying that scientific publications are not important.
- 5:41They are important to maintaining a scientific integrity.
- 5:44But you still have to go out into the masses and speak to the donor
- 5:48and the people that you are talking to that are helping fund your
- 5:51organization and have that communication.
- 5:53Large organizations have a huge funding department, or probably more
- 5:57staff in their funding department or their development department
- 5:59than they do in their actual science department or their conservation
- 6:02department or their advocacy department.
- 6:04Because they need to have these relationships and continue to
- 6:06build these relationships to allow that money to continue to come.
- 6:09' Cause if you don't perform and so to speak, for these donors,
- 6:13why are they gonna do it?
- 6:14If you don't relate the work that you're doing to these donors and
- 6:17what their mission is and what their message is and why they donated in
- 6:20the first place, you can't help.
- 6:22And so if you don't have that communication aspect, whether it's
- 6:24to one donor or many, or even just an audience that if you're getting
- 6:28funding from many people, you're not looking at driving anything.
- 6:31That's a tough pill to swallow for a lot of people when
- 6:34you're doing this type of work.
- 6:36So all this stuff, it creates a difficult balancing act.
- 6:40Scientists need accuracy, but online platforms reward emotion and simplicity.
- 6:45So it's a very different way of communicating.
- 6:48Organizations are constantly trying to simplify complex ocean
- 6:51issues with losing nuance.
- 6:53And honestly, some issues are easier to communicate than others.
- 6:57Like sea turtles and whales attract public attention quickly.
- 7:00If you show a video of a whale breaching, that's pretty cool.
- 7:03In front of like, say, a whale-watching boat, that's pretty cool.
- 7:05That's a really fun thing to watch.
- 7:07Or have a picture of that, that's a really fun thing to see.
- 7:09That's gonna catch the eye of somebody on Instagram say, "I wonder what this
- 7:12is all about." But fisheries management policy is usually pretty boring.
- 7:15They're not really gonna say anything.
- 7:17Unless you have an image of something really compelling and talking about it to
- 7:20your potential donors or to your audience.
- 7:23That's what really, really matters in this situation.
- 7:26But fisheries policy may affect food security, jobs, and ecosystem
- 7:31collapse far more directly.
- 7:32It may be more important.
- 7:33It's like every time I talk about biodiversity, it doesn't get a lot
- 7:36of downloads compared to my other episodes, say, on whales or sharks
- 7:39or sea turtles or anything like that.
- 7:40But it's probably one of the most important things 'cause it'll save whales
- 7:43and sharks and sea turtles, right?
- 7:45Now, this is kind of something that's been really interesting for me
- 7:48because I have developed this science communication role in myself by doing
- 7:53this podcast and by looking at how I communicate using newsletters, YouTube
- 7:57videos, and also social media, different platforms and so forth, and continuing
- 8:01to create content to not only just grow my show, but to expand my message.
- 8:04So I've learned a lot about science communication.
- 8:06So much so that I've been recently hired, I've been there for a month, at Pisces
- 8:10Ocean as the Oceans Communication Manager.
- 8:12And what's really great is that Pisces is actually sponsoring
- 8:15this episode and this podcast.
- 8:17And what's really great is Pisces actually works as a consultant.
- 8:21We're a consultancy firm, and we work with clients, whether from the nonprofit
- 8:25sector, the for-profit sector, or academic projects like large academic
- 8:28projects or even small academic projects.
- 8:30We work with organizations to amplify their message to help them
- 8:33get funded So you're not always looking for funding, but this is like
- 8:37once you get this started, once you get a strategy, and once you start
- 8:40getting this produced, you start increasing that money that's coming in.
- 8:44You start increasing that attention first, and then the money will eventually follow.
- 8:48But it has to come with a good plan with communication.
- 8:51So if you wanna check out what Pisces is all about, go to piscesoceans.ca.
- 8:56That's piscesoceans.ca for more information.
- 8:59If you have any questions, you can just hit me up on any of
- 9:02my socials that I've put below.
- 9:03DM me, message me on LinkedIn.
- 9:05I'd be more than happy to chat with you.
- 9:07If you're having trouble raising funds, having communication,
- 9:10even finding the time to do communication, we can provide that.
- 9:13We have a thing called Pisces Points.
- 9:15It's really great.
- 9:15You do a strategy.
- 9:16We do Pisces Points.
- 9:17It's awesome, and we can really get you started quickly.
- 9:20So check that out, piscesoceans.ca, and I'll put that link in the show notes.
- 9:25So check that out.
- 9:26It's a new thing that I'm doing, and I'm loving my job, and I
- 9:29love working with organizations.
- 9:31It's a lot of fun.
- 9:31We do a lot of cool things, not just communication strategies, but everything,
- 9:34and I'm having a blast doing it.
- 9:36So come work with me as a client, and I would love to help
- 9:39you out with our great team.
- 9:40All right.
- 9:40So let's get back into the episode 'cause we wanna know what happens next.
- 9:44Like, what's the future gonna look like?
- 9:46And to be honest, I think ocean conservation is entering a period where
- 9:48financial sustainability becomes just as important as scientific discovery.
- 9:53We need organizations like nonprofit organizations and for-profit
- 9:57organizations to really step up for the ocean because we're seeing a lot of
- 10:00governments step back from the ocean.
- 10:02They just don't have the funding, or political parties have different types of
- 10:06strategies or different types of values that don't always include the ocean.
- 10:11And so we need to have the organizations step up even more.
- 10:14So we need them financially sustainable so that we can actually continue on with
- 10:18some of the great work that they do.
- 10:19So organizations are looking for some stable funding models.
- 10:22Some are building partnerships with corporations.
- 10:25Others are developing memberships, media platforms, educational products,
- 10:28or even community-driven funding.
- 10:31There's a growing discussion around whether government should fund
- 10:34conservation infrastructure more like public services instead of relying
- 10:38so heavily on donations and grants.
- 10:40But here's the reality.
- 10:42The ocean supports global food systems.
- 10:44It regulates climate.
- 10:46It supports tourism, shipping, jobs, and coastal economies.
- 10:50Yet many of the people trying to protect it are working in
- 10:53financially unstable systems.
- 10:55And that creates risk because conservation only works when institutions are
- 10:59strong enough to survive long-term, not grant to grant, donation to donation.
- 11:04That's not really what is what we're talking about here.
- 11:07If ocean conservation constantly operates in survival mode, long-term protection
- 11:11becomes much harder to achieve So I want you to follow this podcast right
- 11:15now if you haven't followed it before, so that you can get all the updates.
- 11:19We post from Monday to Friday.
- 11:21And for this week, we are gonna be posting all about nonprofit and
- 11:25how you can survive as a nonprofit.
- 11:26So if you have recently started a nonprofit, or you have one, or you're
- 11:30working with one, and you guys are always struggling for funding, and
- 11:33that's nothing to be ashamed of, this happens to a lot of people and
- 11:36a lot of organizations, I'm here to try and help with this week.
- 11:39And at the end of the week, we have James Meisner, who is on the podcast,
- 11:43where I did an interview talking about what he does as a nonprofit consultant.
- 11:46He's got some great tips as an ocean nonprofit, make
- 11:49sure you are raising funds.
- 11:50So check that out.
- 11:51That's it for this episode.
- 11:52I'd love to hear your feedback.
- 11:54Hit me up on my socials down in the show notes below, or you can go to
- 11:57speakupforblue.com/feedback, and you can just hit me up, write a text or type out a
- 12:03message, or even record a voice message.
- 12:05I would love to hear from you.
- 12:06I wanna thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the
- 12:09How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 12:10I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 12:11Have a great day.
- 12:12We'll talk to you next time, and happy conservation.