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Ashanti Talks 'Gotta Move On' Verse, Truth Behind The Music, "Lil D Energy" + More! · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning breakfast club morning.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy and Jela Yee, Charlomagne the guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are the breakfast club. He special guests in the building.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Off of vacation, I'm stop there every time she vacation.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're notation giving a vacation non style exactly,
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  Speaker 1: you two Envy vacation and he's supposed to be here.
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  Speaker 1: At least you get to move around. That's your job, exactly. See,
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  Speaker 1: I still be working when I'm on worcation fresh off vacation.
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  Speaker 1: He's last weekend. Think you're gonna company? Noticed last right now? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: what's up vacation? Yes, yes, he was working vacation to
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  Speaker 1: Australian New Zealion exactly. Dubaye I saw Kaima Abu Dhabi, Jamaica. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it was workasition. I don't like when people act like
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  Speaker 1: when somebody's working, they're just chilling on viation. That's a lot.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: It's different time zones. Oh my gosh, performance hydrated. It
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. We saw I don't even know how many
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  Speaker 1: cities and different countries in a matter of what is
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  Speaker 1: it three and a half a month now, three weeks
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  Speaker 1: to a month, We've been literally around the world in
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  Speaker 1: a ya. How does that feel when you know you
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  Speaker 1: got the kind of catalog that has had that type
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  Speaker 1: of global impact. You know what's crazy. I literally posted
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  Speaker 1: yesterday that I'm so grateful to be all the way
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  Speaker 1: over in Dubai and having people scream foolish. Twenty years later,
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  Speaker 1: it's like such a blessing, you know. And after coming
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  Speaker 1: from Australia, you know, New Zealand, Sydney, Brisbane, whatever, it's
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  Speaker 1: just like, yo, I can't like, I'm so humbled, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so grateful, you know. So it's an amazing, amazing feeling.
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  Speaker 1: The twentieth anniversary of the album. Yeah, Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I got my ring. I got my little Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: ring ring ring. Well actually my mom had it made
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  Speaker 1: for me a custom Can we see it? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let me see. It has the day night, you right,
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  Speaker 1: it has the day to got the music like championship,
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  Speaker 1: yeah day Okay, So I rerecorded. I want to say
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  Speaker 1: we are four records in um but obviously with everything happening,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of had to stop, you know, so I
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  Speaker 1: have to find another like slot of time where I
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  Speaker 1: could just sit down and just complete it. How difficult
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  Speaker 1: is you ain't got to remember anything exactly. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to remember, but we are replaying everything to a
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  Speaker 1: t you know what I mean, So we don't want
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  Speaker 1: it to sound different. I'm not trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: go and then shuff up anything new. But I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to sound as authentic as possible, but just bigger sonically,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because when we were recording
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  Speaker 1: twenty years ago, so obviously sonically it was different sounds.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to rerecord and do the music and
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  Speaker 1: just make it sound as similar to the original as
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  Speaker 1: humanly possible. You could do it in texts and Kike
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  Speaker 1: because they have an amazing student. Yes, I know about
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  Speaker 1: it exactly. Worcas, thank you. And are you been celebrating
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  Speaker 1: the twenty anniversary? You know that makes sense? Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's again. We have been on a worcastion,
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  Speaker 1: but we've been just you know, with the Hollywood Walk
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  Speaker 1: of Fame, with doing several you know, television shows, just
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  Speaker 1: talking about it, celebrating on stage. I think when I did,
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  Speaker 1: we had two shows the day that um the album
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  Speaker 1: dropped April second, so we had two shows the same day,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, Yo, reflecting on this our drama
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  Speaker 1: album twenty years ago, I got two back to back shows,
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  Speaker 1: so they celebrating twenty like it's just been a whirlwind,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So we just we've been celebrating. My Name
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  Speaker 1: is a Story. Yeah, she talked about it. Then you
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  Speaker 1: talk about it when you were here before. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: So finally it's out. The children's book is called My
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  Speaker 1: Name is a Story, and it's basically just about celebrating
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  Speaker 1: having a unique name. You know, when I was coming up,
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  Speaker 1: obviously a shanty was not your everyday name, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I used to feel like, you know, the teacher would
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  Speaker 1: be hesitant to pronounce it, or wouldn't correct herself pronouncing
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  Speaker 1: my name wrong. So I just felt like, now I
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  Speaker 1: think we need to celebrate being unique, and I think
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  Speaker 1: kids that have unique names don't need to feel ashamed
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  Speaker 1: of having a Leonard. I'm gonna get you a book
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  Speaker 1: My name is knie Une because it's not Leonard, and
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  Speaker 1: my mom had got me this thing that tells me
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  Speaker 1: exactly what my name is exactly. But look, when you
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  Speaker 1: were small, you couldn't find a key chains with your
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  Speaker 1: name is. See what I'm saying, Sean are double a
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  Speaker 1: capital s? Exactly and my name couldn't even fit on
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  Speaker 1: the scan tron. Wow for a shoe on the shoe
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  Speaker 1: you see see what I'm saying. I like that for
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  Speaker 1: your shoe. I like that. What what story did your
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  Speaker 1: name tell? Um? My name originates from Ghana and it
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  Speaker 1: means women of strength, so basically, you know, like in
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  Speaker 1: foreign countries the women a considered loan a totem pole.
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  Speaker 1: But in this particular tribe, the Ashanti tribe that originates
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  Speaker 1: from Ghana, women run things. The woman king. Yes, exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Hey, mama just got books and aren't you
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  Speaker 1: I thought doing a documentary. Yes, they could sign it
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  Speaker 1: for us. Yes, talk about the documentary. How far along
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  Speaker 1: are you with that? Um? Super early in stages. I
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  Speaker 1: have so much content and so much footage of everything
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  Speaker 1: that we've been doing behind the scenes. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: really hard to like decipher through everything. And like my
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  Speaker 1: mom has everything like from the beginning, from the first
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  Speaker 1: time I went to the studio, the first time I
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  Speaker 1: went to the offices, you know, over a murder ink
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  Speaker 1: and behind the scenes, behind foolish and like it's ridiculous,
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  Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a lot um. I want to
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  Speaker 1: tell everything. I want to tell how it was my third,
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  Speaker 1: my fourth, my third record deal. I was signed to
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  Speaker 1: Noontime Epic Records. I was signed to Yes, Jazzy Fade,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Nooney, all of them. I had lived in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: when I was like seventeen um, and then before that,
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  Speaker 1: I was signed to Jive Records when I was fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: right after Aliyah had moved from Jive, and I was
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  Speaker 1: my first story was supposed to be with in Sync
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  Speaker 1: and Backstreet Boys. Before you tell the story of the documentary,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever say, you know what, maybe music isn't
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  Speaker 1: for me. First deal, second deal, They like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's something I shouldn't be doing. By the time
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  Speaker 1: I came back home after my second record deal, I
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  Speaker 1: went back to college and I was like, mmm, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't passionate about it, you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I got into a car accident. Let me
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  Speaker 1: focus and have a backup plan and we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of that vibe. It wasn't like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, I have to do this, and it wasn't like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fuck it, But it was if it happens,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. What was the turning point from there? I
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  Speaker 1: mean at that at that time, I was just doing
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  Speaker 1: local talent shows, showcases. Y'all remember Bernard Brown, Bernard Brown showcase.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was used to be at what's
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  Speaker 1: the name of that? Um? Oh my god, what is
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  Speaker 1: the name of that place in the city. Y'all do
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  Speaker 1: stuff there all the time. No, oh my god. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna think of it at the end of the interview.
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  Speaker 1: But it's something that everybody is so disrespectful. My phone
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: is gonna vibrate for one person, my daughter and my wife.
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  Speaker 1: There's only two rings and that see my wife and
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  Speaker 1: mine too right now, like like literally mine at the
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: same time. And now you said being at work. He's
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  Speaker 1: always on vacation. You see what I'm saying. We still
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  Speaker 1: ain't find the name of the building, wasn't I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember the name of it. No, it was from back
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  Speaker 1: and I know all y'all been there and y'all have
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  Speaker 1: done parties there. I'm gonna think of it at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the interviews. Yeah, yes, sobs, Okay, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you started. I started doing like talent shows and stuff
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  Speaker 1: there and singing in front of people and what was it? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's when I met up with old Boy and we sang.
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  Speaker 1: I sang in the studio. He gave me the production
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  Speaker 1: deal and I took it. You know what I'm talking about?
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  Speaker 1: No after him? Oh boy, yeah boy, he know a
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  Speaker 1: mutual person and he set up to me in way, way, way,
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  Speaker 1: way way back then. So that's kind of like how
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  Speaker 1: everything just it was like a mutual thing. I hope
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  Speaker 1: that you explored the dynamic between you and your mom
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  Speaker 1: because I've always found that very interesting, you know, throughout
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  Speaker 1: throughout the years. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely, it's gonna tell a lot.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand what goes in to
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  Speaker 1: it and what happens with your family, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: my sister kind of being in my shadow, and my
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  Speaker 1: dad playing it back and me and my mom. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot with your mom a singer. No, yes,
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  Speaker 1: my mom could put so hard. It was almost like
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  Speaker 1: you know when when a parent is a player, you
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  Speaker 1: want your son to be a player, right right. She
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  Speaker 1: really rolled out like she knew, Yes, she knew on
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  Speaker 1: the birth announcement, My mom's birth announcement. It's crazy, that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be in the dock to my dad actually sings though.
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  Speaker 1: I had on my dad's side is eight eight of them,
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  Speaker 1: eight brothers and sisters, and they had like the family band.
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  Speaker 1: So my dad he could really really sing. He's like blue,
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  Speaker 1: Magic Vibe, heat Wave Vibe. He did all of those. Definitely,
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna have like, oh, are we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: footage of your dad singing in the dock? I think
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: that'd be kind of yeah. Yeah, it means you see
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  Speaker 1: that and in the dance studio. I know you got
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  Speaker 1: some good footage. Oh my gosh. Yeah we did everything tap, jazz, ballet,
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  Speaker 1: African hip hop, point, all of that. But how was
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  Speaker 1: that for your dad? Because your dad, you know, lost
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  Speaker 1: his two ladies. He lost his wife on the road
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  Speaker 1: and then he lost his daughter in the road. So
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  Speaker 1: how was dad during this time? You say lost? Like,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, Dad been a part of it. Dad
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  Speaker 1: be on the road sometimes, you know what I'm saying, Um,
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  Speaker 1: But it was definitely a different dynamic because he had
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  Speaker 1: my sister. You know, So my sister's like in junior
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  Speaker 1: high and my dad is like, all right, she got
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  Speaker 1: a boyfriend. What is this about? You know what I'm
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: saying he called, like, what we're doing with this dude?
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  Speaker 1: You know? So it was it was everyone sacrifice. I
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  Speaker 1: would say that, you know what I'm saying, for the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of me and for me to be able to
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  Speaker 1: take care of everyone. Do you feel like somehow your
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  Speaker 1: personal life always seems to overshadow everything else, like the music.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes not really because I'm low, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm super low. I mean, obviously people didn't know me,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, my ex were together for like three
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  Speaker 1: to four years before it ever hits. I keep it low.
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  Speaker 1: How do you How are you feeling right now? Because
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: I know you've been going through a lot. I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: so are you good? Like how I am amazing? Because
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  Speaker 1: I could be a little stressful, like sometimes to look
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  Speaker 1: on social media everybody's talking about business and that. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you had an opportunity to sit with
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  Speaker 1: somebody like Angie and be able to talk about your
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  Speaker 1: side of things, because that's not something normally. You're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to address that, right, But it
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  Speaker 1: got to a point where it was just too much.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when you just when someone is just lying
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  Speaker 1: that to that extent on that big of a platform
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  Speaker 1: about things that are just non existent. It's just like,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: come on, especially, No, you're not going to say anything, right,
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the problems. Like you got used to me
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: not saying anything, and you took advantage of my kindness,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying and me being professional. But
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: at some point you have to just speak up. And
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: that's what I did to get this potty mouth always. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I heard a lot of people feel that came from
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  Speaker 1: the mom. I feel like that's what I feel like. No,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what's crazy. If you would have heard
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  Speaker 1: the verse that I did before that, it was way
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  Speaker 1: more savage. So I just mom wrote that verse a
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  Speaker 1: little you know, a little tea maybe I play for
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: you have them, okay, we're here. It was more because
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: you know, guys get really offended by that. Every guy,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: like when you start talking about little penises, they get
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  Speaker 1: defensive than they But I mean, if God can't help it,
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: it's not like and then you can do any surgery.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: We can't get No, but I heard you can't. I
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: heard you can do a little enhancement. Yeah you can.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how it's gonna work in
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  Speaker 1: function you know what I'm saying. But I heard you
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  Speaker 1: at least I heard it. It's just for girl. It's
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  Speaker 1: not for so. I heard girl. Not so you do
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  Speaker 1: like a little pringle snack size cane. Oh you don't
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: want that? He did. Look, I want to see and
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: you're right because guys will do things like they tie
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: a weight to the end of it and they think
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  Speaker 1: they could like hang the way. No, that sounds painful though,
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: that sounds painful. Yeah, sometimes people feel like, what did
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  Speaker 1: you Charlottagne had the pills that he was taking. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted magnax out the back of the double la Oh
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: no nah. But when you give off that energy sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you got to be addressed. Correct little dick you can't shake.
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  Speaker 1: How can you say, I'm just saying about it because
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: he didnt right there? Why did he feel a way
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: about because I don't know, but like right when you
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: said it, he was like take that or whatever. That's
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: that's a wild time to say take that. Look at it.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what the interest in I say, before
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  Speaker 1: you walked in, I said, I do not want to
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  Speaker 1: ask her any questions about that, because I feel like
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: that's what you get asked about a lot, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's fair to you, you know what I mean. No,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I mean, I'm cool
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  Speaker 1: either way. You know, y'all know I've been through a
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  Speaker 1: lot of interviews. You know what I'm saying, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I speak, but most of the time I don't. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like at this point, at twenty years being
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: in and where we are just in social media and
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: what we're doing to just progressively grow in this industry,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, just for a woman, I have to.
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  Speaker 1: I had to come out and just say my piece,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And it's crazy. So many people would text
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  Speaker 1: to me, like all my exes hit me like yo,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta say something, you know what I'm saying. And
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: it was it was a good feeling because I'm not
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: the one to ship on people. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I defend myself, so I'm not gonna say nothing until
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: you start throwing these daggers at me, you know. So
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: and everyone respected that. I feel like people were like,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: we're glad because you don't bother nobody, you don't tell
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: crazy about nobody, you don't be beefing with nobody, nobody.
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  Speaker 1: I have no, you're gonna address things in your documentary.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I am. I am, because there's there are a lot
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: of things that have been misled. There are a lot
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: of things that are missing, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: there's a lot, it's a lot. So yeah, I heard
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: other women say that they appreciated you telling that story
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: because a lot of them go through those type of
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: things in their their work environment. Absolutely. Absolutely, I've been
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: in a crazy situation with one producer. Um, I don't
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: even I think I might have talked about this once.
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  Speaker 1: One producer, like we did two records together. He was like, Okay,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you know I'm not gonna charge you. You know, you're
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: my homie, whatever, whatever, And then when it came trying
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: to put on the album, he was like, well, let's
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: take a shower together. And I thought he was joking,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Like I thought it was joking. And then he's like, no,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I'm dead serious, Like, you know, let's go out and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: let's take a shower together, and I give you the
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: records if not, I need forty. And I was like, again,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I thought he was joking, you know, because we have
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  Speaker 1: been working with each other for like I don't know,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: the weeks he was like, you're so crazy, right exactly,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: you know, you do one of those and then um,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: it turned out that he was serious and I hadn't
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: make some phone calls and you know, stuff was handled. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but it's wild, yeah, mama, Mama, Yeah it was. I'd
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: be wondering, Mama. How do you feel when when you
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: hear these stories though, Like, do you ever feel like
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: you want to get on social media and defend your daughter?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, please do not let me saying please, no,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: please don't show I'm telling my own story. No, please
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: don't want that. It'll be the doctor. Sit down, please down,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: talk for the doctor. Yeah, I'm gonna let her talk
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: exactly because you guys editing room right then, so for sure,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and then I show your red table talk that you
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: did also, and so you know, I just think even now,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: all the things that you've been addressing are so important
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: for women other women to also here, but and for
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: men too. Yeah. I'm able to understand that just because
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  Speaker 1: I know that your sister she or she's gone through
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  Speaker 1: a lot so much, and I feel like she's been
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: trying to like make sure that people can hear her
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: because it's hard to even get to that point where
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: you feel like you can talk about it absolutely in
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: front of so many people, having so many of the
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: same mutual I don't even want to say friends, but
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: mutual people that you're around, and it's like, Okay, he's
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: cool with him. Should I still be cool with him?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But he did this, damn Should I bet?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: But he can't do it to me? But you know
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: what I mean, it's like a lot. It's a lot,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you know, especially when you have a person that is
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: so kind of infiltrated in the industry. So I commend
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: her so much. You know, it was doing She's doing good.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: She's in a really good space. You know. She has
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: her line Wife of Creation, she has her like candles
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and sustainable clothing and stuff that that she's doing. M
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some yoga where she does. Yes, you
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: gotta do the yoga second in that morning, very early.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But once I get off this show, I have a
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: little time. So I totally absolutely it's healing, you know
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And she's gotten so many dms from
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: people that are saying, oh my gosh, you helped me,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I went through something just so brave.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I could never do that. I commend you, you know.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: So even if it's two three people that are able
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to come out of that and learn from it and
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: kind of get strength, I'm I'm grateful for that. Is
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: it easier to convey those those those stories through music
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: or interviews nowadays? Um? As an artist, see, I've never
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: gone through that. You know I've gone through obviously watching
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: my sister. So as an artist, I don't want to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: say it's easy to write, but it comes, you know
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I could write about that whole situation
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and it'll be a heartfelt record talking about it. It
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: is a little challenging, you know, because it's like you
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: don't want to say too much. You know what I say?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You know not enough? You know what I mean? And again,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: it's not my story, right, So it's it's her story,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and she has to talk about what she's comfortable talking
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: about and putting out there. Do you feel like you're
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: write a song about it? So here's the thing. When
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I wrote Rain on Me, I did not go through that,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: But I've seen and witnessed domestic violence. It hit way
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: different now, you know, seeing my sister goes So when
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I see me and Lorenz acting, you know, when he's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: hitting me and I'm hitting him, and it's like, oh
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: my god, it almost gets a little like damn, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: kind I don't want to watch that in front of her,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And but now you can
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: see how that has helped other people because it exposed
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: it where it's uncomfortable to talk about. You expose it
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and you allow someone to try and maneuver out of
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that situation. You know. So as far as writing again
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: about it, I don't know. If a record speaks to me,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that track made me want to write that record, you
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if I get another beat
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that makes me feel like that, I know that I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: will attack it. What about for your own stuff? Because
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, you had some lines and got to move on,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But like for your own personal stuff, is it easy
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: for you to convey? Absolutely, that came out almost like
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a freestyle. I'm not gonna yeah. It definitely was very different,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and you know what's crazy, I liked it. I felt okay.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So when I sent Puff the voice note, it was
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: so easy for me to send it to him. When
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I got in the studio, I was like fuck, am
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I gonna say this? You know what I And I'm
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: telling you there's another version that's super way more savage.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And he was like, no, just say it, just say it,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I can't say it. He's like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you really don't want to say that? No, I can't.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Why But um, I ended up we compromised. I want
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to know how that came about the Puff reach out
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to you or did you run into him like because
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you you were perfect for that record at the time. Yeah,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the timing was crazy, like Puff reached out and again,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we talk all the time, so it wasn't like over
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the top surprising, you know what I'm saying. He reached out,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and um, he told me how he felt about how
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Earth handled the situation, and we just started talking and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: he's like, yo, you want to get on you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you want to get on the record. And I'm like, yeah,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you know. And I heard it and I heard what
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Bryson was saying, and I said, okay, yeah, I know
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: how to attack it, you know what I mean. And
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: because I hadn't addressed it, this was a chance for
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: me to address it in a certain way, you know
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes, through music. So I can be
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: creative and it can be the artistic side of me,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and I don't have to be up on here cursing,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and you know how, I really can. But um, I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: feel like that was a catalyst and it allowed people
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to see what I felt, you know, And then I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: did the same thing. I still um did the interviews
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and I still spoke about it. You know, it's crazy.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I was on a plane literally last night back from Jamaica.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: This lady was sitting next to me. She's like, oh
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: my god, your birth don't got to move on. Shut
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: up his part. I was on the plane back from
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Jamaica and this lady was like, Yo, your verse don't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: gotta move on. Was crazy. I'm so glad you. I'm
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: so happy about the way that you handled it. I've
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: been watching you for years, so to me, that kind
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of tells me that I feel like I did something right,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the way that I've handled
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it for the past twenty years and the ship that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: fell in my lap in the past couple of months,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that's what I did. How did did Hea and R
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that situation? Like you said, he told you how he
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: felt about whatever saying. What did he say He just
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: felt like it wasn't respectful, you know what I'm saying,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't I think the whole world could see
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that it wasn't respectful. You could address something, you could
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: not like me, you could whatever, But the amount of disrespect,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it was too much, you know
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And I was actually feeling a movie
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in Canada. So we were going back and forth. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: was sending the verse and changing things here and ad
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: libs and Puff changed the beat forty two times. Yea.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He It's so funny because we're very similar, like being
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: a perfectionist and trying ten times before you come to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that one that you love. So we went back and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: forth so many. I had literally had a studio in
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: my trailer recording in between scenes of the movie. So
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: we just wanted it to be perfect, and we wanted
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to be right and to feel good and feel natural.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: How did it feel when you have like so many
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: big brothers in the industry? Right? Like did he or
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: fact that Joe? These people standing up for the job job,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you know, So how did it feel I have those
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: big brothers in the industry? Um, it's a blessing, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you had to be a little surprising because everybody is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like co mingled, you know, right right? Um it, It
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: feels good to know that I have people that hold
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: me down and everyone ain't for the platform, and everyone
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is not going to say everything on the mic. Sometimes
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: people are genuinely calling me and texting me and it's
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: not for the public, you know. So I feel secure
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: in that, you know, because I'm private too. I'm you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I don't do a whole lot um, but I know
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: if anything goes down, I'm good. This is way more
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: savage remix is that could be an intro to something?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Oh you know what, maybe maybe we I was gonna say,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: maybe we can talk about intro to the show or
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: something like. You know, I like that with the visuals
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and that could be a good idea. I think. So
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I gotta do something with it because if it's more
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: savage than that, I feel like it is. What's more
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: savage and telling somebody got a little dick know that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: they broke. I'm a play for you and you feel
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: like you've gotten it all out of not yet, um,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I do feel like, um again, I don't poke, I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: don't bother people. I feel like at this point it
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: was important for me to make a stance, and I'm good,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm still like, I want
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to have peace with whoever. You know. I don't want
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: no ill will. I don't want your negative energy. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: don't want you at home wishing death on me, you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I want to be peaceful,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and I think I'm at a place where I could
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: be peaceful and cordial and move on. It's too much
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: history together and too many amazing things that we've done
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: to be in this space. It's childish, you know what
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Likes it don't make any sense. So I'm
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I'm at a place where I'm just you know, so
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that would be peace between y'all. You think, Um, I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: don't let me ask Mama. I mean right now, if
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: he does the right thing and has an apology that's genuine,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: there's a possibility because she's a good person, right, you
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, and she's very forgiving. But when
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you do things and keep hammering at it, then that's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: cause for I'm never going to do this. I'm never
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: going to do that, and that's who she is. Yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not things will never be the same ever. Right, Um,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: but as far as just being at peace and being cordial,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is it a possibility. I've tried, you know, for years consecutively.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: An hour I was told, Okay, I'm not gonna do this,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. And a year goes by
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and you do it, say sorry again, year goes by
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to do it again. All right, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you got to accept what it is. You got the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: text all stop? Oh, he texts you. No, Mama got everything.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Not in the I'm like, not in the past few years.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But I think it's your Instagram father shanthing. It's hard people,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I'm serious. It's hard for people to move on when
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you see you looking fly living a great life on Instagram.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: What I'm serious, It's hard for people to get over. Listen,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he probably driving crazy. I finished with it. She got
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure. Holiday movies. Oh yeah, she's up
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a new Diva Christmas Carol, Yes, yea and starring in it. No,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: this is um, it's just Elba's production company. Vibe. UM
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: super super super cute movie. Um, it's like The Grin
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Show stole Christmas kind of vibe. I'm the main one.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I have three spirits that are trying to show me
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the ropes, Eva, Vivica Fox, and Robin Gibbons. Um. It's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: super super cute, super cool, UM, very family oriented and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's a nice twist to it to see,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, black women doing their thing. Did you enjoy
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: being evil? I ain't gonna lie. Listen a lot of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: evil things happening. And I wrote the verse I was
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: being a grin Sum it was a good It was
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: a good month or a few months of expression and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: being artistic different from who I am. You know. Um,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it's come in December fourteenth on VH one. Yeah, I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: see this year, right. We never seen black women in
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that type of role. Yeah, you know. And I got
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to see myself as a young child, as a college
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and then I see myself in the future like a
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: super old lady. And the path that I go down
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: determines what's gonna happen. You know, if I'm gonna end
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: up singing, being obese and smoking cigarettes and you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: laying on the floor in the club, or if I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: gonna have a family. So those decisions make, you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: make sense to what your future is gonna Be and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you also have this single with Blue. Yeah. Yeah, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: guess he's still Young Blue. No, don't call him Young Blue.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I just call him. I feel like you told me
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: he had to change it back or something for legal reasons.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, all right, So how
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: was it working with him? Yo? I was so impressed
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the first time. I was like, Noah, he's really talented,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Like he's talented. Um. We had so much fun. We
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: were in and this this is how you know, I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: got comfortable. We were a little bit after COVID and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: he came in the booth with me, like like by
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the mic, and I was like, hold on, yeah. But
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he's like super passionate and charismatic and he writes off
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the top and it was just really dope being in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the studio with him, you know, just young energy, new energy,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: new vibe. The first time we recorded was here in
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: New York, and then we recorded the single Falling for You.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: We were in Vegas, so were both in Vegas for
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: like a week and we were in the studio every
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: day and it just came effortlessly, you know. I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just being two writers and having producers right at your hands,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: with the you know, the tools making everything. It was
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: just a really dope vibe. What inspired those lyrics, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: mean just life really going through it, you know, just
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: feeling like, you know, sometimes at a certain point you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: got to stop falling for the same patterns of of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: bus you know what I'm saying. So and it's crazy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It kind of came at a time that was like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: really just going through it. So that's that's a that's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: a hard thing to realize because your therapist will tell
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you that, you know, you got to look inside of
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you because if you keep falling for those same patterns, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that's that's deep as deep and it's it's meaningful. And
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I think that I have done that because at some
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: point you got to look at yourself like, Okay, do
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I keep picking the same you know what I'm saying?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Or why am I attracting this certain How come these
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: things unfold like this? You know? Because let me say
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: you were here, you had a boyfriend and we had
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the wrong person, remember asking a bunch of questions, Yeah
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you have somebody a little situation. Yes, you're still in
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a situation. No, not where it was Okay, nah, they
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: just let me stop right now. I'm gonna stop myself. Yeah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I had to stop myself. Um. I think sometimes people
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: make mistakes, you know, it's just about how you go
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: about that mistake after you make that mistake. You got
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to watch the video. I ain't seen the video. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: think we gotta thought publicly shaming God when it's not
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the guy in the video. He's an actor, right, well,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: God make those kind of mistakes, you know. You know
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: certain people. You can't make that kind of mistake, right right,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And that's anybody. If you're you shouldn't win anybody. Yes,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you definitely shouldn't win any people. We got to hold
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not, but you know, depending on how
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: older brother is. And but that's the thing. It's weird
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: because sometimes situations that come about is not it's not
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: really a cheat. It's I don't know how to explain.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: It's like what Va Charlotte may do with each other
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: every morning. They're not necessarily physical with each other. Oh okay, yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if anything like has gone beyond that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, right, but I can see white people don't
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: listen to me. How did you catch up? I'm just curious, Um, Mama,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: did no see. That's the thing. It's hard because it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: not it's not an efficient, it's not a real cheat.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So it's hard to say. But what I will say
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: is I got a lot of good fans and they
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: say no because not even it wasn't even that surface.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: It really wasn't. Um, I don't know. It's just I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: knew I found out, but it wasn't. Again, let me
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: address it. It's not it wasn't like a cheat sheet.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Because sometimes you know, when you get to a point
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: where you're in different spaces, right, so you over here,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I'm over here. You know what I'm saying. So it's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: like it was a break, y'all going a little break
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: kinda you know, I gotta ask you this. It's a
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: little penis a deal breaker. Okay. So here's here's the thing.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: If you know what to do with it, then it's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: not a deal breaker. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: If you know how to make it, that's what women
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: say to make guys feel I'm that serious. How you
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: do it? You can well maybe I don't know. I mean,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: if you know how to if I'm happy, Okay, you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And you know how to do
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: if you know how to make it do what it's supposed,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it's still disappointing and you're like, yeah, you don't want
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to have to you know what? What's that? Because you
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: can't you know what I mean? Right? Absolutely don't say
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: certain things like you know how you want to talk?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I know it, Shanty Tuck's dirty in the bedroom. I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: can tell, Oh my gosh. But this just makes you
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: say that I can tell. But there's certain things you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: can't say because then you're lying. Very true, very true.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: But you know guys do all the time. They be
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: lying just to get in and do you know right,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Guys, we just lie back,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: lie back like it's the best. Yeah, and get it?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Can we go to the right fast? Oh God, let
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: us here? I know that. But I want to say,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: so imagine this is your last day words and you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: gotta and you're leaving, so I want you to to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to and IRV God is your boss? Oh God? Now
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: would you leave? How would you exit? How would help
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: ye out? Savage? Exit? And MoMA Tina right by your
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: side like she always is, Oh my god, but wait, okay,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: so it's my last day, last day, and I don't
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: get stuff and holding stuff, and you know I would
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: put I would put on free do you put on
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: what FNF? Okay? Then I'd be like, I quit this bitch.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: How would you do? Go? Shout to go last day?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: You go, Oh, I'm probably gonna be savage. I'm ripping
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: everything off the walls. I'm breaking all your ship, anything
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: that's precious, your name, I'm spitting on it. You want
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to come back now? We can't leave not negative positive, positive, amazing. Yes,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: we got to play the new record Falling for you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: got to play the remix um Yeah, yeah, move on
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: if you can play that? And the Bug? May shall
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you pick up the Bug? Yes? My name is the story?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And now she has the movie on December fourteen. Yes,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure she'll be back up before her next movie,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the Plus one movie. Yes, absolutely, she put blue one. Yep,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it's the Breakfast Clubs