Latest / Meadows Baptist Church Podcast / Hebrews 5 - 12/14/25 - Pastor Charlie Branch
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- 0:02Welcome to [music] Meadows Baptist
- 0:04Church of Walnut Cove, North Carolina.
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- 0:14[music] with your friends. Now, let's
- 0:16join Pastor Charlie Branch with a word
- 0:18from God.
- 0:29Just praying about the
- 0:31service today, Sunday school time and uh
- 0:34what the Lord would have us to say. Felt
- 0:36God lead me to this passage of scripture
- 0:39and [snorts] u
- 0:43I want to encourage us this morning and
- 0:46I want to say that on the precipice of
- 0:47this this this lesson this morning could
- 0:50be a very discouraging lesson but I'll
- 0:52say this for those of us that's this
- 0:54morning it's not discouraging. This is
- 0:55preventative maintenance. And uh I want
- 0:58to say thank you for being here this
- 1:00morning. Uh every one of you. And I I
- 1:02don't ever want to be, you know, we we
- 1:04people preachers talk about they'll
- 1:05preach on Sunday night and Wednesday
- 1:07night and they'll preach about all the
- 1:08people that's not there. And I don't
- 1:10want to be that way. Never want to be
- 1:12like that. And I always want to preach
- 1:14to the ones that's here because I can't
- 1:15help the ones that ain't. Amen. And uh I
- 1:17want to share this truth with you and
- 1:19try to encourage you uh with this
- 1:21thought this morning. And like I said, I
- 1:23want you to see this from positive
- 1:24perspective as preventative maintenance.
- 1:26All right. And uh we all have this a
- 1:29little bit in our life. And so I pray
- 1:30that God will help us with it. Hebrews
- 1:32chapter 5 11. Hebrews 5 verse number 11.
- 1:37The Bible says, "Of whom we have many
- 1:39things to say and hard to be uttered."
- 1:42Speaking of Christ, seeing ye are dull
- 1:45of hearing. For when for the time you
- 1:48ought to be teachers, you have need that
- 1:49one teach you again, which be the first
- 1:51principles of the oracles of God, and
- 1:54are become such as have need of milk,
- 1:56and not of strong meat. For everyone
- 1:58that useth milk is unskillful in the
- 2:01word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
- 2:03But strong meat belongth to them that
- 2:05are of full age, even those who by
- 2:07reason of use have their senses
- 2:09exercised to discern both good and evil.
- 2:13Therefore, leaving the principles of the
- 2:15doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto
- 2:17perfection, not laying again the
- 2:19foundation of repentance from dead
- 2:21works, and of faith toward God, of the
- 2:23doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on
- 2:25of hands, and of resurrection of the
- 2:27dead, and of eternal judgment. In verse
- 2:29three, the Bible says, "And this will we
- 2:31do if God permit." Now, I want to look
- 2:35at this these verses that I've read to
- 2:37you this morning, mainly just chapter 5,
- 2:4011 through 14. And I want to consider
- 2:42this thought, okay, just to get your
- 2:44mind turned in in this direction. I want
- 2:47to talk about what's missing in the
- 2:49church. What's missing in the church?
- 2:52Now, there's a lot of things that we
- 2:53could say this morning, and our mind
- 2:55always goes to people, but I'll say this
- 2:58this morning. Who God's got here who
- 3:00want who he wants here.
- 3:02>> Amen. And you say, "Well, of course, he
- 3:04wants more here than who's here." And I
- 3:06understand that this morning, but it's
- 3:08not chance or circumstance that you're
- 3:10here. And uh when I think about what's
- 3:13missing in the church, you know, we
- 3:14could say it's people, but I really
- 3:16don't believe it's so much people as it
- 3:18is the the right attitude in the people
- 3:20that are present. And when I consider
- 3:22this text, Paul, the writer here, of
- 3:25course, we believe it to be Paul. I'll
- 3:27say more about that in just a minute.
- 3:28And I believe there's partly a proof
- 3:30here in this text as to why Paul did
- 3:32write the book of Hebrews. But he begins
- 3:35in verse number 11. And this is a
- 3:37parenthetical statement that he has
- 3:39literally just spent the last five
- 3:41chapters up to this point talking about
- 3:43Christ. And he is exhorting them to
- 3:46learn of his high priestly position, how
- 3:49that he's better than Moses, he's better
- 3:51than the angels, he's better than men.
- 3:53And he is teaching them all these
- 3:55truths. And he comes to this point in
- 3:57verse number 11 after he has talked
- 3:59about Christ being after the order of
- 4:02Melzdc in chapter 5 verse 9 and 10. In
- 4:06verse 11 he says this. He begins with
- 4:08this this statement. He says of whom we
- 4:10have many things to say. And his
- 4:12introduction to this parenthetical
- 4:14statement in verse number 11 is three
- 4:16things. And I I think this is what I
- 4:18find interesting about this because
- 4:21number one he points out their their
- 4:23love for Christ. He says, "Of whom we
- 4:24have many things to say." You understand
- 4:27something? For the child of God, we
- 4:28ought to never be able to get done
- 4:30talking about him.
- 4:32>> Amen. We ought to never run out of
- 4:34things to say about who he is. And Paul
- 4:38says, "Of whom we have many things to
- 4:40say." He says, "There's a lot of things
- 4:41that we want to tell you." But then he
- 4:44not only mentions the love that they
- 4:45have for him, but he mentions the labor
- 4:47that's hard. Look what he says. Of whom
- 4:49we have many things to say and hard to
- 4:51be uttered. Do you understand? Sometimes
- 4:53the truths that Christ puts in our heart
- 4:55are hard to express. Things that God has
- 4:58shown us and taught us in our Christian
- 5:00life are hard to relay to others. And
- 5:04that's just the truth. Because when you
- 5:06really begin to dive into the word of
- 5:07God and study, you're going to discover
- 5:09the providence of God and the inner
- 5:11workings of God and his will in the word
- 5:14of God are hard to understand. They're
- 5:17very hard to understand, hard to
- 5:19express. But that ought not stop us from
- 5:21telling it. But I notice what hinders
- 5:24here in this text. I consider the love
- 5:26that they have for him and the labor
- 5:28that he mentions his heart. But then
- 5:30this what interests me. What hinders in
- 5:33the church in this day and time what's
- 5:35lacking is is what he says in verse
- 5:37number 11. He says of whom we have many
- 5:39things to say and hard to be uttered.
- 5:41Seeing you are dull of hearing. You see,
- 5:45the problem we have in the church today
- 5:47is that listening has been hindered.
- 5:52And what this comes back to is years and
- 5:55years and years of modern day technology
- 5:58that have dulled our ability to listen.
- 6:02And what I mean by that is it's not so
- 6:04much that we can't hear it. We've got
- 6:06ability to hear. There's people now that
- 6:08couldn't hear and have hearing aids to
- 6:10hear. That's not the problem. The
- 6:12problem is not the physical ear, but is
- 6:14this the the ear of the heart. It's the
- 6:15the answer, the obedience of a heart to
- 6:18the word of God. He says you're dull of
- 6:21hearing. And the truth is for the child
- 6:23of God, there is so much for us to learn
- 6:26in this life about who he is. And I
- 6:29believe at best we could only learn
- 6:31about half of what really the scripture
- 6:33teaches. I don't think we'll ever learn
- 6:35the full extent. I think those that are
- 6:37the smartest in the word of God and had
- 6:39given their life to the scripture would
- 6:40tell you that they are eternities away
- 6:43from knowing everything that there is to
- 6:45know. But what I'm afraid of is is that
- 6:47because we have decided that we can't
- 6:50know everything. We are unwilling to
- 6:52learn anything else.
- 6:55We are satisfied with the status quo.
- 6:58We're satisfied with the basic truths of
- 7:01Christianity. Well, I'm saved and I'm
- 7:03going to heaven and that's good enough.
- 7:05And you know what? In the flesh, that is
- 7:07good enough. But if we're going to go
- 7:09forward for Christ, it's going to
- 7:10require us to know more than just the
- 7:13basic truths. Because if you do not
- 7:16learn more than just salvation, you will
- 7:18never be effective in the ministry that
- 7:21Christ has given you. Now, I want to
- 7:24relay these truths on your heart. And
- 7:26when I say what's missing in the church,
- 7:28I would say it's this. We're missing
- 7:30servants. We're not missing souls.
- 7:33There's plenty of people that will come
- 7:34to the house of God, but we're missing
- 7:36servants. We're missing people who are
- 7:38faithful. We're missing people who are
- 7:40fervent. We're missing people who are
- 7:42focused on the work of God. You see, all
- 7:46of us as a whole, we are really, and I
- 7:49want to just be nice when I say this
- 7:51this morning, when it really comes down
- 7:53to the ministry, we are disinterested
- 7:56compared to what Christ teaches in his
- 7:58word about the interest we should have
- 8:00in ministry. You say, "Preacher, well,
- 8:01how could you indict all of us in that
- 8:03way?" Well, I know the time that we all
- 8:05spend on ministry across the board. We
- 8:09don't spend enough time doing the things
- 8:11of God. You say, "Preacher, you don't
- 8:13know what I do at my home. I don't have
- 8:14to know."
- 8:16This is the day that we live in
- 8:19as a whole. The church is complacent.
- 8:22The church is carnal. The church is
- 8:25disinterested in the things of God. And
- 8:28that needs to change. Notice verse 12. I
- 8:30want to I want to re lay some truths on
- 8:32your heart. Like I said, this is not
- 8:33meant to be a discouragement to you this
- 8:36morning. It's meant to be an
- 8:37encouragement. It's a it's an
- 8:38exhortation for us to get serious. Amen.
- 8:41Notice this verse 12. For when the for
- 8:44the time you ought to be teachers, you
- 8:46have one need that one teach you again,
- 8:48which be the first principles of the
- 8:50oracles of God. Now, I want to highlight
- 8:52first of all, and we consider this
- 8:54thought here. Note the purpose that's
- 8:56not been fulfilled in verse 12. Note
- 8:58that first phrase, for when the time you
- 9:00ought to be teachers.
- 9:03When for the time you ought to be
- 9:06teachers. Now you say, well, what's the
- 9:09emphasis of that? Well, he has just told
- 9:11them here, he says, look, I've got a lot
- 9:13of things that I want to teach you. I've
- 9:15got a lot of things that I want to tell
- 9:16you, and I'm going to admit to you, this
- 9:18thing's hard to understand. But the
- 9:20reason it's that I can't tell you is not
- 9:22because it's hard to understand. It's
- 9:24because you don't want to hear it. You
- 9:26don't want to listen to it. I think
- 9:28preachers hands in many places are tied
- 9:31in this damn time because they have
- 9:33congregation that's just satisfied with
- 9:35what they know and they don't want to
- 9:37learn anything else. They don't want to
- 9:39do anything else. They don't want to be
- 9:41any more than what they are. And so when
- 9:43I consider this, Paul is saying when the
- 9:45time you ought to be teachers, what is
- 9:47he pointing out? Well, he's pointing out
- 9:48their age. Number one, look what he
- 9:50says. for when for the time
- 9:53he's saying look you've been saved long
- 9:55enough you ought to be doing something
- 9:58for the time you ought to be teachers
- 9:59notice that not only their age here they
- 10:02they're in Christianity they've not met
- 10:04up with where they should be in the will
- 10:07of God and in the work of God but they
- 10:09also have missed the academia look what
- 10:10he says for when the time you ought to
- 10:12be teachers
- 10:14it is there is no reason for a child of
- 10:16God to be saved 10 15 20 years and they
- 10:19can't give you a Bible lesson. There's
- 10:22no reason for that. You say, "Preacher,
- 10:25how can you say that?" Because if you
- 10:27are living and walking with Jesus
- 10:29Christ, you ought to know this book.
- 10:32We ought to know this book. Hey, this is
- 10:34the truth this morning. We ought to be
- 10:37able to give the word of God. If you've
- 10:39been saved many, many years, there's no
- 10:42excuse. There's no excuse. Look what he
- 10:45says. For when the time you ought to be
- 10:48teachers, you ought to have the ability,
- 10:51you ought to have the academia, your age
- 10:54shows that you are far enough along to
- 10:56be teaching. Look what he says. Ye have
- 10:59need that one teach you again, which be
- 11:01the first principles of oracles God. So
- 11:04there's the purpose that's not been
- 11:05fulfilled. They ought to be teachers.
- 11:07Number two, there's the problem that
- 11:10showcases their failure. Look what he
- 11:12says. You have need that one teach you
- 11:13again. Well, look what he's saying here.
- 11:16He says there's an essential need. That
- 11:18word need means something that is that
- 11:20is imperative. He says you have need
- 11:22that one teach you again. So, it's not
- 11:24something that they didn't know, but
- 11:26it's something they had forgotten. Isn't
- 11:28that interesting? You know, if you don't
- 11:31int continually invest yourself in
- 11:33truth, you know what'll happen? You'll
- 11:34forget it. And I know about 30 of
- 11:37y'all's turn me off this morning, but
- 11:39listen to me, okay? If you do not
- 11:41continually invest your life in truth,
- 11:44wake up every day of your life making up
- 11:46your mind, I'm going to learn something
- 11:48out of that book and I need God's help
- 11:49today. You know what you'll do? You'll
- 11:51lose what you already have.
- 11:53>> You will. That's the reason why people
- 11:56that's been saved 10, 15, 20, even 30
- 11:59years will come up in a to a place in
- 12:01their life and you know what they'll do?
- 12:02They'll start to doubt their salvation.
- 12:05Why is that? They'll do that because
- 12:09they have not been faithful to study the
- 12:12word of God because they've not fed the
- 12:15spirit of God. And he says, "You have
- 12:16need that one teach you again." It's
- 12:18essential, but it's for an explanation.
- 12:20Look what he said. You need to be taught
- 12:22again. We should never have to be taught
- 12:25the same truth twice.
- 12:27We ought to be able to hear the truth
- 12:30one time. And you know what? But we
- 12:32ought to be able to rehearse that thing
- 12:34in our mind over and over again and
- 12:37allow that growth to take place. Truth
- 12:39is like a seed that's planted. You know
- 12:41what happens when that truth gets put
- 12:43in? You know what it's supposed to do?
- 12:44It's supposed to grow, isn't it? So, you
- 12:47know what happens if we need to be
- 12:48taught again? That means we've choked
- 12:50out the seed in our life. We have
- 12:52allowed the word of God to become
- 12:55unfruitful. We have refused to bear
- 12:57fruit for the Lord Jesus Christ. And he
- 13:00says because of that your essential need
- 13:02is that you need to ex be you need an
- 13:05explanation again of these truths. He
- 13:07said you need to be taught again which
- 13:09be the first principles of the oracles
- 13:11of God. That phrase first principles
- 13:13literally means this. It means
- 13:14elementary
- 13:16the basic things.
- 13:19It's the one two threes and the ABCs of
- 13:22Christianity so to speak. You know what
- 13:24I see across the board in this day and
- 13:25time? People are so ignorant of Bible
- 13:29truth. People are so illiterate when it
- 13:32comes to the scriptures. And you know
- 13:34what that's an indictment on? That's an
- 13:37indictment on parents.
- 13:40Amen. That's an indictment on parents.
- 13:42When we refuse to train our children the
- 13:44word of God. When we refuse to teach
- 13:46them the word of God, you know what
- 13:48happens? There's a generation that rises
- 13:50and they don't know. And in this text
- 13:53here, he says, "You have need to one
- 13:55teach you again, which be the first
- 13:56principles, the elementary things, the
- 13:59things that you learn right after you
- 14:02get saved.
- 14:04You're going to have to be taught them
- 14:05again." Those first principles. I want
- 14:08to move on here and give you this
- 14:10thought. Okay? I I consider the purpose
- 14:12that's not been fulfilled. The problem
- 14:15that showcases their failure here in the
- 14:17text, they need to be taught again the
- 14:18first principles. But then I consider
- 14:21the provision in verse 12 of their
- 14:23feeling. Notice this. He says, "And are
- 14:26become such as have need of milk and not
- 14:29a strong meat." And I can't emphasize
- 14:31this enough. He is telling them on this
- 14:33text, look, he's telling them, he's
- 14:35saying, "Look, you've become this way.
- 14:38You've not always been this way." Look
- 14:39what he says. He says, he says, "For the
- 14:42time you ought to be teachers, you have
- 14:43need one to teach you again. So you've
- 14:46you've learned, you've you've been
- 14:47taught, but you've forgotten it." He
- 14:49said, "You've become such as have need
- 14:51of milk and not of strong meat. You've
- 14:53become a baby again, so to speak." What
- 14:56does he contrast in verse 12? Such as
- 14:58have need of milk and not of strong
- 15:01meat. What's the difference here in this
- 15:03text? Well, he's dealing with those
- 15:05basic things that are different from
- 15:08those deep truths of the word of God.
- 15:10You see something? When you get saved
- 15:11and when you live any amount of time and
- 15:13you learn like you're supposed to learn
- 15:15as a child of God, when you live the
- 15:18Christian life the way that you're
- 15:19supposed to, you're going to come to
- 15:21find the milk don't satisfy you anymore.
- 15:24>> You're not going to be satisfied with a
- 15:26sippy cup. Amen. And and and mashed up
- 15:29potatoes or apples. Amen. You're going
- 15:31to have to have something a little more
- 15:33than that.
- 15:35And our churches are dying because
- 15:37people are sitting on pews and they do
- 15:39not want nothing more than that. They
- 15:41want something that's easy to stomach.
- 15:43They want something that's palatable for
- 15:46a child with no teeth. Amen. You say,
- 15:49"Well, how is that?" Well, notice what
- 15:51the contrast is. He says that you've
- 15:53become such as have need of milk and not
- 15:55of strong meat. You know what that word
- 15:58strong there means? It's mentioned
- 16:00again, verse 14, but strong meat
- 16:02belongth to them that are full age. That
- 16:04that phrase strong meat, it means
- 16:06strong, hard, solid, rigid, immovable.
- 16:12And look what he says. He says, "You
- 16:14become such as have need of milk and not
- 16:15of strong meat." He said, "You're
- 16:17needing something that babies need."
- 16:21And really, you should be eating meat.
- 16:25You ever seen children
- 16:27get up in years and they'll get, you
- 16:30know, 8, nine, 10 years old and they
- 16:32still talk like a jibberjabber little
- 16:34baby.
- 16:37It's all right. Y'all can loosen up a
- 16:38little bit. Amen. And just like like
- 16:41that.
- 16:42There's a man, there's a young man that
- 16:44I know. He's actually about three or
- 16:46four years older than me now that I
- 16:47think about it. But I remember being in
- 16:49school with him. He was he was u high
- 16:52school. He was several years older than
- 16:54me. I think I remember middle school he
- 16:56was like a sophomore, a junior in high
- 16:58school, but his grandparents had raised
- 17:00him and it's no indictment against this
- 17:03young man. He just his he was a little
- 17:05bit a little bit slow in his mind and
- 17:07that wasn't his fault, but his
- 17:09grandparents had raised him and and
- 17:10they'd always talked to him like a baby.
- 17:13And I remember in high school that poor
- 17:15boy got made fun of so much because he
- 17:18he he his names for stuff like he he
- 17:21called a truck a tu and and just spoke
- 17:24like a little child even he's 18 17 18
- 17:26years old still speaks that way and I
- 17:29remember thinking about that and and
- 17:31seeing him and and how embarrassing that
- 17:34was you know because everybody looked at
- 17:35him and said you know he should be
- 17:36farther along than he is you know what
- 17:39that's the way that you look when you
- 17:41are illiterate in the things of God.
- 17:44When you're ignorant of the things of
- 17:45God, when there is simple truths that
- 17:47you should know, things that we should
- 17:49be acquainted with and understand. And
- 17:52what happens when you're called upon to
- 17:54present something to somebody that's
- 17:56been just saved for, you know, a few
- 17:58weeks or months and you can't answer a
- 18:00simple question that they have. You know
- 18:02what that is? That's that's unnatural.
- 18:05When you've been saved, like I said,
- 18:07when you've been saved 10, 15, 20 years,
- 18:09you ought to be on from the bottom.
- 18:12You ought to be teaching. You ought to
- 18:14be teaching.
- 18:18Really was hoping this would be received
- 18:19better than it's being received right
- 18:21now. But but you see this contrast here.
- 18:23Now note not only the contrast, but note
- 18:25secondly the character it's mentioned.
- 18:27Verse 13.
- 18:29He said you're become such as have need
- 18:30of milk and not of strong meat. Verse
- 18:3213. For everyone that useth milk. All
- 18:34right. If you're still on the bottle, if
- 18:36you're still taking those baser things,
- 18:38if you're still constantly having to
- 18:41have reassurance, constantly having to
- 18:44um deal with basic things in
- 18:46Christianity, look what he says. He
- 18:47says, "For everyone that useth milk is
- 18:49unskillful in the word of righteousness,
- 18:52for he is obeyed." Now, I find
- 18:55interesting here. He points out the
- 18:57contrast in verse 12. But the character
- 18:59in verse 13, I think is what's
- 19:01interesting because he says, "Everyone
- 19:02that useth milk, everyone that consumes
- 19:05milk is unskillful." That word in
- 19:08unskillful literally means ignorant or
- 19:10immature.
- 19:12Everyone that useth milk. If you find
- 19:15somebody that is constantly living off
- 19:17of John 3:16
- 19:20or Philippians 4:13, taken out of
- 19:23context, God help us.
- 19:25I can do all things through Christ which
- 19:27strengthenth me. Those people will take
- 19:29that and use it to go get a beer down at
- 19:30the ABC store. I mean, it's just godless
- 19:33the way people take scripture and
- 19:34misapply. I'm saying when you just take
- 19:37basic truths and people are just living
- 19:40off of those things, you know what that
- 19:41is? That's a baby. That's a baby
- 19:43Christian. You say, "Preacher, they've
- 19:46been saved 20 years." It doesn't matter
- 19:48if they do not if they will not take
- 19:52hard truth. If they will not listen when
- 19:56a preacher just preaches it gun barrel
- 19:58straight right by the book and don't
- 20:00leave nothing laying on the side. Okay.
- 20:03When he preaches it that way and they
- 20:04will not accept that. You know what that
- 20:06is? That's a baby. That's a baby. Look
- 20:08what he says. He says everyone that
- 20:10useth milk is unskillful
- 20:13in the word of righteous. That means
- 20:15they do not know the truth. What did
- 20:17Jesus say? He said the truth shall set
- 20:19you free. Didn't he? But what was the
- 20:21stipulation on that? He said, "You shall
- 20:24know the truth, and the truth shall make
- 20:27you free." You see, the truth doesn't
- 20:29make you free by itself.
- 20:31You say, "Well, I'm saved. I'm free." Of
- 20:33course, you are positionally, but
- 20:35practically, let's just be real. You can
- 20:37be saved and be as locked down
- 20:41fleshly, physically, you can be as
- 20:44locked down, locked down just as bad as
- 20:46a sinner because you do not know the
- 20:48truth. That's why people do not
- 20:50understand, preacher, why do you
- 20:51emphasize so much the knowledge of the
- 20:54scripture? Because it's by the knowledge
- 20:56of THE WORD OF GOD THAT YOU GROW.
- 21:00>> NO, it's not appealing always. But I
- 21:02understand the truth is if there's going
- 21:04to be effectiveness in this thing, it's
- 21:06going to come through the learning of
- 21:08the word of God. For everyone that useth
- 21:10milk, for everyone that consumeth the
- 21:13basic things is unskillful. What is he
- 21:15unskillful in? In the word of
- 21:17righteousness,
- 21:19a baby talks like a baby because they're
- 21:21a baby. But an adult should not talk
- 21:24like a baby. Somebody say, "Amen."
- 21:27>> Verse 14.
- 21:29Notice not only the contrast, the
- 21:31character, but not the completion that
- 21:33he calls for here. He says, "But strong
- 21:35meat belongth to them that are of full
- 21:36age." At full age, that means maturity,
- 21:39even those who by reason of use have
- 21:42their senses exercised to discern both
- 21:44good and evil. Now, this verse is powerp
- 21:46packed. All right. Now, get this, okay?
- 21:49He says, "Strong meat belongth to them
- 21:52that are full." So, I'm thankful that
- 21:54there are truths that can sustain us.
- 21:56You You realize that life is more than
- 21:59just storms and suffering. I swear 95%
- 22:03of Baptist preachers I hear anymore,
- 22:04that's all they know how to preach on is
- 22:06storms and suffering. I'm thinking, we
- 22:08don't know nothing about suffering in
- 22:09this country. We really don't. I mean,
- 22:12we talk about cancer and I realize that
- 22:14that is a suffering of the flesh. But
- 22:15I'm talking about when you compare
- 22:17suffering in that book to what
- 22:18suffering, what we think suffering is,
- 22:20it's not even close.
- 22:22>> The storms that we face, the issues that
- 22:25we deal with are so small compared to
- 22:28what scripture teaches. And this strong
- 22:30meat, if it's good enough for those that
- 22:32were burned at the steak, for those that
- 22:34had their heads chopped off, if this is
- 22:36what caused them to go all the way to
- 22:38their death, unwilling to step back or
- 22:42to turn around, it's that that we need.
- 22:45The reason why we're so soft and so
- 22:47sensitive is because we're on the milk.
- 22:53Because notice this, strong meat
- 22:54belonging. There's a people. There's a
- 22:56group. There's a position that deserves
- 22:59this. What is what what is that
- 23:01qualification? It belongs to them that
- 23:03are of full age. Complete maturity. Look
- 23:07what does he look what he says. What
- 23:09defines this maturity? What defines this
- 23:11crowd who is of full age? Well, look
- 23:14what he says. Even those who by reason,
- 23:16notice this little phrase here, of use,
- 23:19by reason of use have their senses
- 23:21exercised to discern both good and evil.
- 23:23So first of all, if you're going to be
- 23:26of full age, if you're going to be a
- 23:28perfect man, as the scripture teach,
- 23:30this completeness that Paul is calling
- 23:32for, number one, there's got to be
- 23:34determination,
- 23:36discipline. What is that? Well, look
- 23:38what he says. Even those who by reason
- 23:40of what? Use. Use. You know the reason
- 23:45why people are not effective in the
- 23:46ministry? Because they've never done
- 23:49anything.
- 23:52I do not know why it's so quiet this
- 23:54morning. Y'all going to have to liven up
- 23:56a little bit.
- 23:58The reason people can't do anything is
- 24:00because they've never tried to do
- 24:02anything. And this is the excuse we use
- 24:03in this damn time. Well, that's just not
- 24:05my personality, preacher. I'm not loud
- 24:07and boisterous. I'm not really I'm just
- 24:09to myself. I'm not going to go talk to
- 24:11people. Well, let's just back up on that
- 24:14a minute, okay? If you want, you find
- 24:17something you want to buy, you wouldn't
- 24:19care who you had to talk to
- 24:21>> to get it. Amen.
- 24:23And I'm going to pick on you ladies for
- 24:25a minute, okay? But when you go in the
- 24:26store and you see that piece of jewelry
- 24:28in there, it don't matter what the
- 24:29cashier looks like. It doesn't matter.
- 24:32If you like it, you going to go talk to
- 24:34that person cuz you want what's in the
- 24:36case. Amen. What I'm saying is is that
- 24:39person's got a soul. And we use excuses
- 24:42so many times wherever we're at. We
- 24:44can't minister. we can't do this, we
- 24:46can't do that. Men are the same way,
- 24:48man. We'll we'll we won't we won't
- 24:50witness to somebody. We won't talk to
- 24:52somebody about the Lord, but we'll go
- 24:54down to the dealership and we'll talk to
- 24:55the roughest looking dude that there is
- 24:58so we can buy us a truck.
- 25:00>> We're without excuse.
- 25:02>> And what I'm coming back to on this
- 25:04right here is is it's not just
- 25:06witnessing, but the ministry itself, our
- 25:08teaching. Well, we're afraid. We're
- 25:10afraid of crowds. Well, the ball game
- 25:12doesn't bother you.
- 25:16I hit a stump right there.
- 25:19>> Straw meat belongth to them that are
- 25:20full age, even those who by reason of
- 25:23use. There has to be discipline.
- 25:25Further, it goes further than just use.
- 25:27Look what he Look what else he says. Who
- 25:29by reason of use have their senses
- 25:32exercised. Oh, that's a dirty word,
- 25:34ain't it?
- 25:36You've got to work it out. What did Paul
- 25:39tell the Philippian church? He said,
- 25:40"Work out your own salvation with fear
- 25:42and trembling." He wasn't talking about
- 25:44work out how you're going to be saved.
- 25:46He said, "But since you have been saved,
- 25:48you ought to be working because you are
- 25:50saved."
- 25:52>> It should not be so much of a problem.
- 25:55Hear me out what I'm saying. All right?
- 25:57It should not be so much of a problem to
- 25:59find people to teach Sunday school
- 26:01classes and to teach classes in the
- 26:03church to fulfill ministry positions. Uh
- 26:06we should not have to beg and plead to
- 26:08get five people to go on visitation on
- 26:10Saturdays.
- 26:11That's that's not there's no re You say
- 26:13preacher, well I just I'm just not that
- 26:15way. Well, I'll tell you this. Jesus
- 26:17wasn't a sinner. But you know what? He
- 26:18became sin who knew no sin that we might
- 26:20be made the righteousness of God in him.
- 26:25>> I'm saying he did what he did not want
- 26:28to do, but he had to do so we could be
- 26:30saved. We ought to be willing to do just
- 26:32a little bit. He's not asking us to die.
- 26:35He's just asking us to live. Have some
- 26:38determination. Have some discipline.
- 26:40Decide in your heart this morning that
- 26:43you're going to do what you have to do
- 26:45because God's called you to. You have to
- 26:48be disciplined or you're going to spend
- 26:51the rest of your life on the milk. And
- 26:52you know what'll happen? You'll never
- 26:54grow that way. You know what? It burdens
- 26:57me. You go places preaching and I used
- 26:59to do this a lot more when I was
- 27:01preaching out all the time before I
- 27:02started pastoring. that you see people
- 27:04that's they'll tell you, "Preacher, I've
- 27:06been in this church for 40, 50, you
- 27:08know, years, years upon years upon years
- 27:10and and then you get to having a
- 27:13conversation with them. They'll tell you
- 27:14they're saved and they got a good
- 27:15testimony, but then you just go to
- 27:17talking about things. You ever done
- 27:18that? You ever just talk about church
- 27:19things and you find that they don't have
- 27:21a clue
- 27:24about anything scripture- wise? They
- 27:26can't tell you the reason. They can't
- 27:28tell you simple reasons why we should
- 27:30testify. They can't tell you reasons. I
- 27:32mean, why why do we do baptism? What's
- 27:35the purpose of that? Why do we knock on
- 27:37doors? Why do we sew? Why do we believe
- 27:39in Sunday school? What are the reasons
- 27:40for all? And you ask them and they have
- 27:42no answer.
- 27:46They're a baby.
- 27:48And it is not defined by how long you've
- 27:50been in church.
- 27:51>> And I'll say this, a lot of this falls
- 27:53back on the preaching in this country. I
- 27:55I'll say this, 75 to 85% of this falls
- 27:57back on the preaching this country.
- 27:58People will be in a church their entire
- 28:00life and a preacher won't never preach
- 28:02nothing other than a topical sermon on
- 28:04on suffering or storms like I said and
- 28:07they never grow. They never grow. They
- 28:10never get past the basic things.
- 28:13You know what's going to happen to that
- 28:15place? It dies.
- 28:17It's defined here in this text. What
- 28:19happens to it? There's determination. I
- 28:21got to move on here. This completion
- 28:24it's determination. But out of that
- 28:25determination and discipline, verse 14,
- 28:27there's discernment. Look what he says.
- 28:29Who by reason of use have their senses
- 28:32exercised to discern both good and evil.
- 28:34They are able to discern between what's
- 28:37beneficial for them and what's bad for
- 28:40them. And this is the indictment that
- 28:43I'm seeing against the church this day.
- 28:45People can say the right things and do
- 28:47the right things, you know, or say the
- 28:49right things, but when it really comes
- 28:50down to their actions, they don't really
- 28:52know what's best for them.
- 28:56I'm being honest with you, okay? When
- 28:58you think about people and you know, you
- 29:00say, "Preacher, well, I know the
- 29:01scripture. I know what I'm supposed to
- 29:02do." Let me ask you this. If you know
- 29:03it, why aren't you doing it?
- 29:06Because here's it's to know it is one
- 29:09thing. To have the meat on on the table
- 29:12and able to partake of, it's one thing.
- 29:15But to eat it is a whole another thing.
- 29:18You see, it's not so much what people
- 29:20say that tells me where they're at
- 29:22spiritually, but what they do that tells
- 29:25me where they're at spiritually, the way
- 29:27they live their life, what they do
- 29:28outside of the church. They these this
- 29:31man that's complete, that's of full age.
- 29:33He have his has his senses exercised to
- 29:36discern both good and evil. He knows
- 29:38what's beneficial, but he also knows
- 29:40what's bad for him. And he is going to
- 29:42follow only what is beneficial for him.
- 29:46Now
- 29:48talking about this thought of what's
- 29:50missing in the church and service the
- 29:52reason service is missing in the church
- 29:54is because much of the church is carnal
- 29:58we are carnally minded and isn't it
- 30:00interesting that the other time this
- 30:02phrase milk is used Paul was right in
- 30:05Corinthians I told you that there's
- 30:07there's many proofs but I think this is
- 30:08just one that goes to show Paul was
- 30:10writing this 1 Corinthians 3
- 30:13listen what it says 1 Corinthians 3:es
- 30:161-3. Look what he says. He says, "And I,
- 30:19brethren, could not speak unto you as
- 30:21unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even
- 30:24as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you
- 30:27with milk and not with meat, for
- 30:28hitherto you were not able to bear it,
- 30:31neither yet now are you able, for ye are
- 30:33yet carnal." What is what is the
- 30:35description of this carnal church? Well,
- 30:37look what he says. The problem is for
- 30:39whereas there's among you envings and
- 30:41strife and divisions. Are you not carnal
- 30:44and walk as men? For while one saith, I
- 30:47am a Paul, another am I, I am of
- 30:49Apollos. Are ye not carnal? You want to
- 30:53know, you want to know a description of
- 30:55a carnal church? Church is full of
- 30:56division.
- 30:59Church that's full of envy,
- 31:02covetousness, strife,
- 31:05backbiting, malignity, all of those
- 31:07terms. That's carnality in the church.
- 31:11You say, "Preacher, well, we're not
- 31:12committing fornication and adultery."
- 31:14Praise God for it. But you mad at
- 31:16everybody in here.
- 31:20I'm saying carnality is not just
- 31:22immorality.
- 31:24It's not it's not even just being mad at
- 31:26somebody. But if you are so consumed by
- 31:29your flesh and yourself, that that is
- 31:31carnality and that is hindering service
- 31:34in the house of God.
- 31:37>> This strong meat belongth to them that
- 31:39are full age. people who are not carnal.
- 31:42The carnal man receiveth not the things
- 31:44of God. The Bible says they're
- 31:46spiritually discerned. He cannot know
- 31:49them because the spirit teaches them.
- 31:52And so I would say carnality hinders
- 31:54growth, but complacency hinders growth.
- 31:57Complacency hinders growth. It's not
- 31:59just that you have to be worldly minded,
- 32:01but you just can be nothing minded. Men,
- 32:04we know all about this, okay? We get in
- 32:06our box of nothing, all right? and we
- 32:08just don't think about anything. We're
- 32:10just decided we're just not going to be
- 32:11decided about anything basically.
- 32:14And we know this well. And you say,
- 32:16"What is that?" Well, he describes it in
- 32:18the verses just prior to this in an
- 32:19admonition that he gives to the church.
- 32:21Notice verse 12 of chapter 6 of Hebrews.
- 32:24Hebrews 6:12. Look what he says. What's
- 32:26that first phrase? That you be not
- 32:29slothful. You know what that is? That's
- 32:31laziness.
- 32:32That's complacency.
- 32:35Brother Jimmy said this during revival
- 32:37meeting. And I hope y'all didn't miss
- 32:38this. He said, "The Christian life is
- 32:40like this." He said, "You're either
- 32:41paddling upstream or you're floating
- 32:42down.
- 32:44>> The moment that you start pressing
- 32:46forward,
- 32:47you're going backward."
- 32:50Because that's just the truth. The
- 32:51stream of this world and your life is
- 32:53against you.
- 32:55And if you're not careful, complacency,
- 32:57complacency will hinder growth.
- 32:59Slothfulness, unfaithfulness, all of
- 33:01these hinder growth. And this is what
- 33:04keeps you from being a mature Christian
- 33:07of full age.
- 33:09Christianity is not for the lazy man.
- 33:12The ministry is not for the lazy man.
- 33:15And if you are going to do anything for
- 33:17God, you will have to decide. You will
- 33:20have to decide number one to be
- 33:22disciplined.
- 33:23And out of that discipline will arise
- 33:26discernment who by reason of use. You
- 33:29got to use it. Here's here's the reason.
- 33:32And and I've said this before at the
- 33:34church, I think I' I may have mentioned
- 33:35this in passion, but a lot of the reason
- 33:37why I think ministry has been so
- 33:39neglected this d time is because we put
- 33:42all the emphasis on training, training,
- 33:43training, training. We want to train
- 33:45this one, train that. And here's the
- 33:46thing about it. I'm all for training.
- 33:48Okay? But when it comes down to the
- 33:50ministry, if you're ever going to do it,
- 33:52you going to just have to start.
- 33:55You just have to start. You don't know
- 33:57it all at the beginning. You ain't got
- 33:59it all figured out. I mean, if you need
- 34:01an example of that, just look at the
- 34:02pull pit. Amen.
- 34:05You ain't going to know it all. You're
- 34:07not going to have it all figured out,
- 34:08but if you wait until you do, you will
- 34:10never start.
- 34:14And so, I noticed this in the text and
- 34:15I'm done. You see the purpose that's not
- 34:18been fulfilled, the problem that
- 34:20showcased their failure, the provision
- 34:22of their filling. They were drinking
- 34:23this milk when they needed to be on
- 34:25meat. But notice what he begins with in
- 34:27chapter six. And I'm going to deal with
- 34:29this again on next Sunday. And I know
- 34:30it's going to be the Sunday before
- 34:31Christmas, but we're going to deal with
- 34:33it anyway. Chapter 6 and verse one. He
- 34:35says, "Therefore, all right, therefore,
- 34:37because strong meat belong unto them
- 34:40that are of full age." He says,
- 34:42"Therefore, there's some things we're
- 34:44going to have to leave and we're going
- 34:46to have to part from some things in
- 34:48order that we might finish." Look what
- 34:50he says. Therefore, leaving the
- 34:51principles of the doctrine of Christ,
- 34:52let us go on unto
- 34:55perfection. Well, you know what that is?
- 34:56That's completeness.
- 34:58Can I can I as a pastor put this to you
- 35:01this morning? Grow.
- 35:05Make it your desire that tomorrow you
- 35:08going to be closer to God and know more
- 35:10about God than you did today.
- 35:13>> And the day after that, you're going to
- 35:14be farther along with God and for God
- 35:16than you was the day before that. The
- 35:18reason why we do not go anywhere for God
- 35:20is because we do not have any goals for
- 35:23God.
- 35:24Get you a burden.
- 35:26Find somebody that needs to be saved and
- 35:29pray for them and pray for an
- 35:30opportunity to witness to them and pray
- 35:32until God gives you that opportunity.
- 35:34Lead them to God and then disciple them.
- 35:39Our churches are dying because we're not
- 35:41doing this. And you say, "Preacher, I
- 35:44thought this was supposed to be an
- 35:45encouragement." Well, let me say this to
- 35:47you. It's supposed to be an
- 35:48encouragement to you because this is the
- 35:50faithful crowd. You are the ones that's
- 35:53here for Sunday school. You are the ones
- 35:55that were here last night and here for
- 35:56visitation and here for the ministries
- 35:58of the church. Let me encourage you.
- 36:00Grow. Grow.
- 36:03There's people that's not going to grow.
- 36:06Don't be one of those people. Amen.
- 36:08Father, thank you for this time. Lord, I
- 36:11pray God you'd bless this thought this
- 36:12morning. Help us as we preach today. Get
- 36:14glory to yourself. Help us to grow. Draw
- 36:18closer to thee. Help us to get off the
- 36:20milk, Father. Not be so carnal and
- 36:22fleshly, God. We're worried about our
- 36:24salvation and worried about this and
- 36:26worried about that and Lord carried
- 36:28caring about others opinions of us and
- 36:30all this that and the other. Lord, help
- 36:31us just be settled and grounded. Just
- 36:34get busy. Lord, I sure love you. Thank
- 36:36you for allowing us to serve you. Bless
- 36:39the service today. We pray in Jesus
- 36:40name. Amen.
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