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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, May 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jack Bars, Jacks, Jaguars sex steps, John, Actually, Jaguars draw
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Speaker 1: A Time starts right now. Welcome back to Jaguars Drive Time.
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Speaker 1: Keeping you updated on all the Jaguars news as little
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Speaker 1: and as much as there is this time of year,
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Speaker 1: especially with the circumstances we're in here with my co
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Speaker 1: host Brian Sexton and John Osier and guys, looking back
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Speaker 1: to last year, we would right now be on a
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Speaker 1: football field, hot, sweaty. John would be a little crabby,
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Speaker 1: he'd have his big sunhead on. We'll be watching football
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Speaker 1: and pajamas at least football to talk about. But instead
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Speaker 1: we're here and it's the trying times that we're in
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Speaker 1: right now in a very weird off season. I will
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Speaker 1: never again complain about watching underwear practices uh during O
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Speaker 1: T A s which, as as we've said, sometimes they
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Speaker 1: are so boring it it hurts your eyes to watch.
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Speaker 1: And then John and I we talked about you know,
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Speaker 1: what can we take from these that we can share
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Speaker 1: with people on Drive Time or John in an article,
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Speaker 1: and and we just kind of shake your heads and
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Speaker 1: say it's it's it's just filler, right, I Mean, you're
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Speaker 1: just trying to fill this time of year to get
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Speaker 1: to the season. I would take that right now in
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Speaker 1: a heartbeat, and I will never complain again about it, Brian.
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Speaker 1: Never I might skip out there. I'd be so excited
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Speaker 1: to get out to the field. I can promise you
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Speaker 1: that at some point in the future, if I'm standing
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Speaker 1: in an O t A practice, I will complain. It's
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Speaker 1: my nature, So I'm not going to make a promise
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Speaker 1: I can't keep um. But obviously I've always said basically
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Speaker 1: that O t A S that's what like thirteen fourteen
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Speaker 1: days including the mini camp. My thought is always that's
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Speaker 1: too many, just because what are you going to tell
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Speaker 1: people about it? But it would obviously one a week
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Speaker 1: to a week that we could see try to get
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Speaker 1: something out of it. Maybe it has something to talk about. Yes,
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Speaker 1: But I still say, Brian, I don't think that if
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Speaker 1: these guys get back and they're in training camp July.
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Speaker 1: I think back to two thousand eleven, when there was
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Speaker 1: no off season, no nothing. Maybe the first week or
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Speaker 1: so there was a dropping play, but I thought there
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Speaker 1: was more of a noticeable difference on the field when
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Speaker 1: the officials were on strike. Then the year that there
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Speaker 1: was no offseason. I still say it's nice for us
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Speaker 1: to be able to talk about I don't know realistically
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Speaker 1: if beyond the rookies they're missing that much right now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: first month, the first month was it took a little
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Speaker 1: time for offenses, and I was the Jaguars offense because
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Speaker 1: Gabett was playing. He wasn't to pace you're he wasn't
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Speaker 1: supposed to if you recall, he was supposed to sit
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Speaker 1: after missing an entire offseason. However, I was with a
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Speaker 1: former NFL coach last night and he looked at me
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Speaker 1: and said, I would hate to be a first year
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Speaker 1: coach trying to figure all of this out. If there's anything,
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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people that were very
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Speaker 1: disgruntled when Doug and Dave came back. It was the
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Speaker 1: right call for the right moment in time. At least
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Speaker 1: it is, but this moment in time, because right now,
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Speaker 1: those guys like Matt Rule and Carolina who are trying
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Speaker 1: to bring in a new quarterback, new coordinators, and new
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Speaker 1: coaching staff, new players, it is going to be overwhelming.
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Speaker 1: Take those teams out of the mix, and you may
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Speaker 1: see a little bit of sluggishness from those guys. The
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Speaker 1: rest of the league might be Okay, Yeah, anybody who's
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Speaker 1: doing it first with a coach trying because so much
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Speaker 1: of the league is about routine. As you guys both know,
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Speaker 1: it's about what are you doing I'm gonna do on Monday?
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do in this game plan? Meeting
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Speaker 1: those guys without question. But anybody who's been around it before,
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Speaker 1: I think veteran players, veteran coaches, veteran whatever it does,
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Speaker 1: call it a question for this team. J Gruden install
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Speaker 1: in this offense. I do think getting reps mentally with Gardner,
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Speaker 1: Minshew and all that, I think they'll get the offense
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Speaker 1: in fine. But it's going to be an accelerated process
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Speaker 1: and training camp. M that is stressful to think about,
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. All Right, let's get into big things,
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Speaker 1: shall we. Big thing one the state of the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: There are shifts coming in the season if football is
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Speaker 1: ever to be played, which we hope so Doug Brown
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Speaker 1: talked to us last week, and so that Will Richardson
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Speaker 1: will compete at less tackle instead of guard going into
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Speaker 1: this year behind Cam Robinson, who were unsure dealing with
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Speaker 1: all those injuries last year. The state of his play
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Speaker 1: this year. Newest draft picks Ben Bart will compete at
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Speaker 1: right guard next to a j Can as well as
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Speaker 1: a whole. And we've been talking about this ever since
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Speaker 1: the NFL combine. Doug Moron and this coaching staff are
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Speaker 1: pretty comp in this offensive line Around the country. The
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Speaker 1: narrative is the Jaguars don't have a good offensive line.
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Speaker 1: The coaching staff does not believe this change is coming.
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Speaker 1: So interesting to see how that plays out. In Big
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Speaker 1: Thing to familiarity new tight and Tyler Ifort speaking to
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Speaker 1: us last week and immediately brought up his relationship with
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Jay Gruden. The two are together during his
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Speaker 1: rookie Brookie season at the Cincinnati Bengals, and I first
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Speaker 1: told us it was a big reason why he is
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Speaker 1: now here in Jacksonville. I was in the same city
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Speaker 1: for seven years, but we had probably five four or
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Speaker 1: five different offensive coordinators. So, you know, learning a new
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Speaker 1: offense can be challenging at times. You know, you feel
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Speaker 1: like you're never gonna get it, and then eventually, over
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Speaker 1: over time and all the reps, it it clicks. But
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Speaker 1: just having that familiarity with the offense um is is
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Speaker 1: really nice. And finally, Big Thing three is get to
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Speaker 1: a little bit closer. As of today, the NFL has
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Speaker 1: implemented a new plan where facilities in states that are
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Speaker 1: allowed to go back to work can have up to
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Speaker 1: seventy five people working. And guys, as we know, when
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Speaker 1: you look at everyone that works in the stadium daily,
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Speaker 1: that is not a lot of people. That is a
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Speaker 1: very small list. The Jaguars are starting that process getting
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Speaker 1: people they feel are necessary right now in the stadium
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Speaker 1: as of today, as you can see, we are not
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Speaker 1: one of those seventy five people. Still a very long
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Speaker 1: way to go, but this is at least a little
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Speaker 1: step in the right direction to getting people fast work
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Does it surprise anybody that I'm unnecessary? Brian,
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Speaker 1: do not come list? There is it? There is a level,
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Speaker 1: there's a there is a level of self awareness that
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Speaker 1: has arisen at this time. Um, there's no doubt in
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Speaker 1: my mind the NFL is going to make an incredible
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Speaker 1: effort to get this thing going and to get this
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Speaker 1: season going where I mean, remember a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: ago was no teams are going back to their facilities
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Speaker 1: until all teams can return to their facilities. That was
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Speaker 1: stated policy at the beginning of April. Now there's thirty
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Speaker 1: three thirty two teams, twenty two of whom are in
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Speaker 1: states where they can start to reopen and start to
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Speaker 1: get this thing back. They're gonna take teams and move
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Speaker 1: them around if they have to. At some point later
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Speaker 1: this summer, They're going to get this thing started. The
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Speaker 1: question isn't whether they get it started, it's can they
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Speaker 1: finish it. That's the really interesting question in my mind.
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Speaker 1: Will this thing impact them in the full stories about
7:35
Speaker 1: you know what happens if the team gets it and
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Speaker 1: you know, five players come down with it, you have
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Speaker 1: to quarantine and just the whole team miss it. There's
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Speaker 1: so many variables to this thing. The one thing we
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Speaker 1: know is that the commissioner and the owners who are
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Speaker 1: meeting today are going to do everything they can to
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Speaker 1: get this thing kicked off and get it started. And
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Speaker 1: from that point, I think it's gonna be a really
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Speaker 1: unusual season. And that's an understanding. It could be wild, right,
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I was thinking about this last
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Speaker 1: week and trying to I used to like to study
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Speaker 1: the history of the game when I was a kid,
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Speaker 1: and as weird as it sounds, in the twenties and thirties,
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Speaker 1: there were years where the Bears would be six two
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Speaker 1: and three and the Packers would be seven and one,
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Speaker 1: and they would decide it who got in based on percentages. Now,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the case this year.
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Speaker 1: But if certain games couldn't get played because of this,
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Speaker 1: would they go to a system where you know, Okay,
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Speaker 1: this team got thirteen games in, this team get eleven.
8:36
Speaker 1: We're trying to get to the end of this. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think I don't think that will happen, but I
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Speaker 1: do agree with what Brian said. I think when fans
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Speaker 1: look at this, there's gonna have to be a ratcheting
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Speaker 1: down of what's fair and where this fits into the
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Speaker 1: perspective of every other season in NFL history. This is unusual,
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Speaker 1: and if fans won football, if players won football, and
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Speaker 1: everybody wants it, but it's got to be done in
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Speaker 1: such a way that there may be these extreme contingencies
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Speaker 1: that are very interesting. Is Brian said, I have no
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Speaker 1: idea what it's gonna look like. You know one thing
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Speaker 1: that could be interesting, and people may or may not
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Speaker 1: know the history of the game, but back during World
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Speaker 1: War Two, you had teams combined the Eagles and the
9:17
Speaker 1: Steelers became the Stiegels. At one point, the Cardinals were
9:21
Speaker 1: in Chicago. In one year they were card Pit right,
9:24
Speaker 1: because the Steelers in Pittsburgh and the Cardinals in Chicago
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Speaker 1: combined to form a team. Now again, it seems unlikely
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Speaker 1: in today's game, but what if you had teams with
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Speaker 1: massive amounts of players who were having to be quarantined
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Speaker 1: over two weeks or or longer? Could you see players
9:42
Speaker 1: on loan? I mean again, this is drawing on the
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Speaker 1: history of the game. I think the bottom line is
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Speaker 1: people are gonna have to accept that the outcome of
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Speaker 1: this season is the outcome of this season, and it
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be that way going forward. Is going
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Speaker 1: to be one great, big asterisk in the fact in
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Speaker 1: record book. Absolutely, let's go back up to big thing one.
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Speaker 1: The biggest thing with the offensive line I think we
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Speaker 1: all can agree is what is this the state of
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Speaker 1: left tackle Cam Robinson. That's the biggest question with the
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Speaker 1: offensive line. But what do you guys think of these
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Speaker 1: switches with Well Richardson Ben Bartch now going to a
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Speaker 1: different position than he played in college. Do you agree
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Speaker 1: with the decision? Yeah? I don't think Ideally this won't
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Speaker 1: be that big deal O'Brien, because ideally they want Cam
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Speaker 1: Robinson to be the left tackle. I haven't heard anything
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Speaker 1: to indicate that this is a move that's down on
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson. It's more there's no Centercadwaite h so you
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Speaker 1: need to swing tackle. Who's the guy who has in
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Speaker 1: game experience on the offensive line, who can go do that?
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Speaker 1: Will Richardson's played that. I think it's more a move
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Speaker 1: about getting him there and then possibly for if Cam
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Speaker 1: Robinson is gone to he's in the final year of
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Speaker 1: his contract, maybe you can see richards step in at
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Speaker 1: that point. Could have happened this year, sure, but my senses,
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Speaker 1: the Plants get Ben Barton right guard, and let's get
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Speaker 1: Will Richardson to swing tackle if he's needed a guard.
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Speaker 1: It's not like what we're sinking. President can't go in
11:12
Speaker 1: and play Guarden at Pimps. So there were people who
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Speaker 1: are asked me last week, you know, oh, will Richardson
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Speaker 1: starting at left tackle, because you know, I didn't say
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson's their left tackle. I don't think this move
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Speaker 1: changes that run. I think they're trying to find a
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Speaker 1: home for Will Richardson. He didn't distinguish himself at right
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Speaker 1: guard last year, even though he's bigger, stronger, and has
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Speaker 1: greater length for the position than a j can Um.
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Speaker 1: If he did, he would be the starting right guard
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Speaker 1: this year. Meanwhile, he's a fourth round pick, and so
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Speaker 1: that's a guy with some value that you want to
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Speaker 1: try to develop that got the right tackle set. So
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Speaker 1: you did centrica boy. He's absence is a big part
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Speaker 1: of this as well. But it fits that he goes
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Speaker 1: over and how big he is because he's played tackle allegiately,
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Speaker 1: because he was drafted as a tackle in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Get him out there and find a spot for him.
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Speaker 1: I know there were some disagreements about him last year.
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Speaker 1: Some people thought he was further along, some people thought
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Speaker 1: he had a long ways to go. Um. I think
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Speaker 1: it's about a fourth round pick and finding the place
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Speaker 1: where he can contribute. Mh and I simply I don't think. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Story and we are getting deep on that backup swing tackle.
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Speaker 1: This is a big headline highlighted bold. It is a
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Speaker 1: big deal. All right, Well, then let's obviously talk about
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Speaker 1: the next big deal, which is Tyler Eifford speaking to
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Speaker 1: us last week. That tight end position. We all know
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have not been able to figure it out.
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Speaker 1: When you talk to him, and we all talked to
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Speaker 1: him last week, the biggest thing that comes up always
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Speaker 1: is his health. And yeah, it's great that he can play,
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Speaker 1: but can he stay healthy? Playing all games last season
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Speaker 1: for the first time, and I think that's the biggest things.
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Speaker 1: He's just trying to overcome that because whenever you say
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Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffort, always think yeah, but what about the health, Well,
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. The one thing that is
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Speaker 1: incur or a couple of things encouraging. Yes, he played
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Speaker 1: all sixteen last season. And when you look at his
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Speaker 1: injury history, it's not like he's had a bad knee
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Speaker 1: that over and over again he has not been able
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Speaker 1: to come back from. It's not like he's had one
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Speaker 1: injury where you think, Okay, that's did that's never gonna
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Speaker 1: come back. I'm not a doctor, but ah as surprises,
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Speaker 1: You're right, seland because you would think, hey, I gave
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Speaker 1: up a doctor's career to do this, but I would
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Speaker 1: think that the fact that he had yeah, that he
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Speaker 1: has not had anything that has brought him down for
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Speaker 1: a long long time. They've been sort of flukey things.
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Speaker 1: He said last week he was he was never sure
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Speaker 1: quite why he kept getting hurt. The one thing we
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Speaker 1: do know, if this guy can stay healthy, he is
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Speaker 1: a pro Bowl level tight end who can do a
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Speaker 1: lot of things. He could wind up being one of
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Speaker 1: the bigger stories of the year and the only ready
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Speaker 1: and you don't play it up a whole whole lot
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Speaker 1: is how many times in the last couple of years
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Speaker 1: Safari and Jenkins, uh, Jeff Swain have we talked in
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Speaker 1: the off season and by week eight they're forgotten entities.
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Speaker 1: That's what you hope, for everybody's sake, that this is
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Speaker 1: not m hmm. I'm looking up. Why can't I think
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Speaker 1: of the kid's name, the tight end that played for
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Speaker 1: the Texans in the mid two thousand's the kid from Wisconsin. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for a Dallas Clark kind of tight end.
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Speaker 1: Not the guy that necessarily puts up a hundred catches
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Speaker 1: and yards. That'd be great, right, but those guys are
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Speaker 1: a few and far between. But give me the guy
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Speaker 1: that can move the chains on third down, that's deceptive,
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Speaker 1: that's tough to match up with, that is able to
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Speaker 1: keep drives alive. And I'm looking for his name. I
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Speaker 1: can't I can't believe I can't remember the name um
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Speaker 1: Owen Daniels. Daniels, that's right now. Bars never had a
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Speaker 1: guy who could cover Owen Daniels who I couldn't remember.
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Speaker 1: His ain't right, not like he's a household guy anywhere
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And yet he was a guy that
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Speaker 1: was a massive burr under the Jaguars collective saddle. Give
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Speaker 1: me that. If Tyler Eifert could be that, or or
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Speaker 1: Oliver could be that, just give me that guy. I
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Speaker 1: don't need huge numbers, I just need production. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: thought it was intriguing on this tight end note. When
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Speaker 1: I talked to Ron Middleton last week, the tight ends coach,
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Speaker 1: he spent a lot of time talking about effort, but
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Speaker 1: we spend even more time talking about Oliver. And Ron's
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Speaker 1: not really a guy given to a whole lot of hyperbole.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't mind sort of telling you what you know.
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Speaker 1: He's not going to criticize his guys, but he's not
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Speaker 1: gonna play him up a whole lot. He talked a
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Speaker 1: lot about Oliver's run blocking ability. Thinks it's much better
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Speaker 1: than people think. And he when I was talking to him,
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Speaker 1: it sounded like he really thinks Oliver is the real deal.
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Speaker 1: Has to stay healthy. He admitted, Hey, last year wasn't
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Speaker 1: even a red shirt season. It was lost. He played
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Speaker 1: what four games? But I was struck by how highly
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Speaker 1: he talked about Josh Oliver, especially as a run blocker. Um,
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Speaker 1: what's eating sale? Yeah, Josh Oliver. I remember going back
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Speaker 1: to last year's training camp. We couldn't stop talking about him,
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Speaker 1: and I feel like as of now it's almost kind
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Speaker 1: of a forgotten name in that tight end group. So
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Speaker 1: make the layoups. You have to be able to do
19:23
Speaker 1: the things you're supposed to do as a starting NFL quarterback,
19:27
Speaker 1: and then if you can add something extra. That extra
19:31
Speaker 1: can be making special throws down the field from inside
19:33
Speaker 1: the pocket. That extra can be buying time and add
19:36
Speaker 1: living and doing the Russell Wilson and the year and
19:38
Speaker 1: Rodgers outside the pocket. I don't know what that is,
19:40
Speaker 1: but that's what separates guys. Make the layoups and then
19:43
Speaker 1: do something special, and that's what takes you to the
19:45
Speaker 1: next level. We're back Jaguars Drive time. You just heard
19:49
Speaker 1: from NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner, former quarterback with our
19:53
Speaker 1: very own Brian Sexton. They had the chance to catch
19:56
Speaker 1: up last week that full interview on Jaguars dot Com
20:00
Speaker 1: and that leads us into are all about Gardner Minshew segment.
20:04
Speaker 1: We are going to complete this sentence Gardner Minshew will
20:08
Speaker 1: be successful in if blank. We all three picked different scenarios.
20:14
Speaker 1: So John, how about you go first? Why will Gardner
20:17
Speaker 1: makes you be successful. Oh, disclaims a little bit. This
20:21
Speaker 1: is also another zone question that I got, So we're
20:23
Speaker 1: talking about a little bit. So I'll be short. He
20:26
Speaker 1: has to be able to adapt when game when defenses
20:31
Speaker 1: game plan for him. They did it a little bit
20:34
Speaker 1: last year, and it looked like once people got the
20:38
Speaker 1: book on him that he sort of struggled to get
20:41
Speaker 1: past that. Well, that comes in on steroids now because
20:45
Speaker 1: you've had a year to look at the guy. They'll
20:47
Speaker 1: be looking at his strength, looking at his weakness, is
20:49
Speaker 1: figuring out where they can gear him to fail because
20:52
Speaker 1: they wanted to fail. Can he come out of that?
20:55
Speaker 1: That's all safe for now because we'll talk about the
20:57
Speaker 1: next segment, but that's gonna be key. And Brian, I
21:02
Speaker 1: know you have a different perspective on this, being able
21:04
Speaker 1: to talk to Kurt Orness. I know you're definitely favorable
21:07
Speaker 1: about staying in the pocket. Well, that's it. Although I
21:10
Speaker 1: think it'd be successful. If he wears that kiss concert
21:12
Speaker 1: t shirt that I saw him on a social media posts,
21:15
Speaker 1: the sleeveless one. I don't know why that struck, And
21:17
Speaker 1: if he wears that underneath his jersey, I think he'll
21:19
Speaker 1: be successful. Um, I think it'd be successful if he
21:24
Speaker 1: stays in the pocket. Talking to Kurt, the ability to
21:29
Speaker 1: bounce around to make things happen is an accouterment to
21:33
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. It's something that they can do that
21:36
Speaker 1: creates another dimension. Um, but it isn't the way to success,
21:41
Speaker 1: Kurt said. The way to success is to be able
21:43
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21:46
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21:50
Speaker 1: by the way, but he spent time talking to him
21:52
Speaker 1: when they were in London, because of course, Kurt was
21:54
Speaker 1: part of the crew that broadcast the London game last year,
21:57
Speaker 1: and his overall perception was and and guard you know,
22:00
Speaker 1: gave him this. He'd have been a pocket quarterback at
22:03
Speaker 1: Washington State. You know. It wasn't like he did run
22:06
Speaker 1: around and make plays, but he was comfortable in the
22:09
Speaker 1: pocket while he was in Pullman, Washington. And he believes
22:12
Speaker 1: he can get comfortable in the pocket again. We know
22:15
Speaker 1: he can run around. I mean the play that he
22:17
Speaker 1: made in Denver where he found Quel Armstead in the
22:19
Speaker 1: back of the end zone after ducking and turning and
22:21
Speaker 1: joking and finding his way back and throwing it on
22:23
Speaker 1: the run. He's always going to have that ability, But
22:26
Speaker 1: as he told Warner, that was not what made him
22:29
Speaker 1: a good quarterback in college. It was his ability to
22:32
Speaker 1: decipher what a defense was doing and attack it from
22:36
Speaker 1: the pocket. So if he can find a way to
22:38
Speaker 1: attack it from the pocket, he'll be successful. There we go. Yes,
22:46
Speaker 1: that's definitely got to be a bullet point. Mine is
22:48
Speaker 1: more big picture Garnerman, who will be successful in if
22:52
Speaker 1: he wakes up every single day and says, I am
22:55
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars. We've had a
22:58
Speaker 1: lot of questions. I'm sure you guys have as well.
23:00
Speaker 1: Where the heck because Gardnerman show been He hasn't been
23:02
Speaker 1: on Instagram, There's no RV tours going on. We've seen
23:06
Speaker 1: no shorts, we've seen no stash. Where is he learning football?
23:09
Speaker 1: Was just talking about it the other day. They feel
23:11
Speaker 1: like he really hasn't been seen at all this off season,
23:14
Speaker 1: and I think there is a reason for that. I
23:16
Speaker 1: think kind of the stigma around the country a little
23:19
Speaker 1: bit last year is is this guy taking this seriously?
23:22
Speaker 1: Is he ready for the role as an NFL starting quarterback? Gardnerman,
23:25
Speaker 1: she was taking this opportunity and absolutely seizing it. If
23:29
Speaker 1: you follow his trainer on Instagram, he's posting videos and
23:32
Speaker 1: working out every single morning. I think gardnerman She was
23:35
Speaker 1: going into this offseason believing this is an opportunity I
23:38
Speaker 1: cannot pass up. But I'm curious to see what is
23:42
Speaker 1: the difference this year to last year with Garnermansho going
23:45
Speaker 1: and knowing that this is his team. He was the
23:47
Speaker 1: starter last year. I think there was a little bit
23:49
Speaker 1: of hesitation with that, but he was still confident. So
23:52
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a real bullet point this
23:54
Speaker 1: year is how is that mindset going to change. I'm
23:58
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24:04
Speaker 1: I well, we'll be back because I got I gotta
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24:15
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Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say none of us know.
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Speaker 1: But Gardner Minshew was a big topic in that segment
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Speaker 1: to Nashville. Steve, can you describe new Jaguars offensive coordinator
28:52
Speaker 1: j Gruden style of offense and how it does or
28:55
Speaker 1: does not mesh with our current roster? John Well, this
28:59
Speaker 1: is aways tough because people want to take an offense
29:03
Speaker 1: like you're playing Madden and take it and drop it
29:07
Speaker 1: down into another team's personnel. And the reality is offenses evolve.
29:13
Speaker 1: The West Coast offense was started in what the late
29:17
Speaker 1: seventies early eighties, is not the West Coast offense. It
29:19
Speaker 1: is now because it evolves every year, so it's a
29:22
Speaker 1: West Coast based scheme. John Gruden runs it. Jay Gruden
29:27
Speaker 1: runs it very similar. It's about getting the ball out quickly,
29:31
Speaker 1: timing passes. Uh, it's about being able to run effectively
29:35
Speaker 1: early so you can play action off of it. And
29:38
Speaker 1: people listen to will say, well, that sounds a lot
29:39
Speaker 1: like a lot of offenses. Well, yeah, you don't necessarily
29:44
Speaker 1: see this unbelievable change and how teams play because it's
29:50
Speaker 1: still dictated to what the quarterback does well, to what
29:52
Speaker 1: the players do well. But that's the gist of it.
29:55
Speaker 1: And you know, if if if Minshoe is able to
30:00
Speaker 1: grasp it, which he's a smart guy in can Grass,
30:02
Speaker 1: then I think they'll use a lot of the offense.
30:04
Speaker 1: If not, then they'll scale it back. But I don't
30:07
Speaker 1: know if if if in this day and age, it's
30:11
Speaker 1: necessarily fair to say, well, this offense doesn't fit this personnel.
30:14
Speaker 1: It's gonna be about how it meshes. It's gonna be
30:16
Speaker 1: about what Keenan wants to do with the wide receivers,
30:18
Speaker 1: what McAdoo wants to do at quarterback. It becomes a
30:23
Speaker 1: acumen as Brian would say, but right, it becomes a
30:29
Speaker 1: dictionary back out a group process. The only thing I
30:34
Speaker 1: can add to that is when he was in Cincinnati,
30:36
Speaker 1: I recall he was very good at using personnel groups
30:40
Speaker 1: to get this matches right. In this league, you scheme players,
30:44
Speaker 1: not schemes, and he was very good at scheming players
30:47
Speaker 1: to get certain guys in certain matchups to get them open.
30:50
Speaker 1: That was something that John Gruden talked about when he
30:53
Speaker 1: did games that involved his brother, So it sticks in
30:56
Speaker 1: my mind. John's absolutely right. His offense will look different
30:59
Speaker 1: in Jackson building it did in Washington and Cincinnati because
31:01
Speaker 1: the players are different. But one thing that you can
31:04
Speaker 1: count on is he's a guy that will use different
31:06
Speaker 1: personnel groups to get the matchups he wants incredibly effectively.
31:10
Speaker 1: Every offensive coordinator wants to do that, talks about doing that.
31:13
Speaker 1: Some are better at it than others. I my understanding
31:16
Speaker 1: is he's one of the guys that's really good at that.
31:19
Speaker 1: We shall see what it looks like, hopefully coming soon.
31:22
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Speaker 1: thank you, No banana pepper. I'm gonna give something to
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Speaker 1: rat dog atin Oh that pepper will go over big
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Speaker 1: with the dog. That's a great idea. Sherry's gonna love this.
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Speaker 1: That's about the extent of me cooking unless I'm on
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32:21
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32:27
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Speaker 1: I can make. Some My roommate makes fun of me
32:32
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32:35
Speaker 1: the roommate? Is she back? Thank gosh, Yes, she's making it.
32:39
Speaker 1: I was getting really hungry. Lebrian's the gourmet around here,
32:43
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, Well, I grew up with family that
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32:51
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32:54
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33:04
Speaker 1: That's key when you have three boys in the house. Though,
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Speaker 1: that tends to happen. I live in public, all right,
33:11
Speaker 1: Let's drap it quickly, Jeff. Is the following going to
33:16
Speaker 1: net out positive or negative? For Gardner? Minshew? A year
33:19
Speaker 1: of NFL tape on him allows defenses to take away
33:22
Speaker 1: what he's good at first. The year of NFL experience
33:24
Speaker 1: in an offseason allows him to improve and grow. Yeah,
33:28
Speaker 1: I wanted to discuss this with you guys as well. Um,
33:33
Speaker 1: to me, this is the whole key. This is where
33:36
Speaker 1: a quarterback you can have success as a rookie, you
33:39
Speaker 1: can have success earlier. But it's the old baseball analogy.
33:41
Speaker 1: The second time through the league for a picture is
33:45
Speaker 1: much tougher because the batters are seen what he throws.
33:47
Speaker 1: It's the same thing for a quarterback. Then she went
33:50
Speaker 1: six and six last year. He was able to do
33:53
Speaker 1: things the defenses weren't expecting. Can he once they figure
33:58
Speaker 1: out exactly what he does well. We saw it a
34:00
Speaker 1: little bit for about two or three games right before
34:01
Speaker 1: the bye. The Saints took some things away that he
34:04
Speaker 1: did well. Some other teams did the same thing. The
34:06
Speaker 1: Texans looked like, did the same thing. How will he
34:09
Speaker 1: adapt to that? If he adapts and can do things
34:13
Speaker 1: well against defensive designed to stop him, then all of
34:18
Speaker 1: a sudden, the sky is the limit. If he can't
34:20
Speaker 1: do that, then all of a sudden, he's career backup guy,
34:23
Speaker 1: marginal starter guy. Brian. I think that's the big thing
34:28
Speaker 1: to watch from him this year. You know, I had
34:30
Speaker 1: somebody tell me last week that they thought that he
34:32
Speaker 1: could at least be as productive as starting quarterback in
34:34
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34:37
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34:39
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34:42
Speaker 1: it's on him. He comes in here and he brings
34:45
Speaker 1: by the way Ben McAdoo who worked with Aaron Rodgers,
34:48
Speaker 1: who worked with Eli Manning, who understands developing quarterbacks, it's
34:52
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34:55
Speaker 1: all on them. He's got to be down in Naples
34:57
Speaker 1: working as hard as he as he apparently has been working.
35:00
Speaker 1: But he's got to be able to come in here
35:02
Speaker 1: and have Macadoo and Gruden and that whole crew have
35:05
Speaker 1: designed a system that plays to those strengths. Um, I
35:09
Speaker 1: think that they can make it happen. I mean it.
35:12
Speaker 1: The person that told me that I trust knows the
35:14
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35:18
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35:22
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35:25
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35:30
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35:34
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Speaker 1: point of view and and probably for him he's doing
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Speaker 1: fine with it. But he's also been very upfront, Hey,
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Speaker 1: this is a huge adjustment, and I think it's interesting
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Speaker 1: for people to hear how much it gets into your blood,
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Speaker 1: how difficult it is for guys to move on from it.
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Speaker 1: So he was good on that a lot other topics,
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Speaker 1: and you know, as you guys know, it's always good
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Speaker 1: to talk to Paul because he is a very interesting
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Speaker 1: person to talk to and it tries very hard to
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Speaker 1: be good within interviews, so it's always interesting. Overall, just
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Speaker 1: a good guy. My big swing of the week was Warner,
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Speaker 1: so I encourage people to go see it. He's candid
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Speaker 1: and very good on Gardner. Minshew both what he likes
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Speaker 1: about Gardner and where he thinks Gardner really has to
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Speaker 1: focus in order his best. Absolutely definitely worth the watch
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Speaker 1: and for me. On Wednesday, Jaguar's Instagram lie with new
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Speaker 1: wide receiver Colin Johnson and a new episode of Jaguar's
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Speaker 1: throw Down with Quincy Williams and Juan Taylor. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: get you two on Jaguars Throwdown. Next things will get
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Speaker 1: We know you'll throw down, John trying to come to plate.
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Speaker 1: All right, thanks so much for watching Jaguars Drivetime. We
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Speaker 1: will see you all next Tuesday. Have a great Memorial Day.
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Speaker 1: M HM.